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This week on the show, Jodie and Tony do their best Seinfeld impressions by talking about nothing and a lot of it. In fact, the highlight of this episode is tomato basil soup. Intrigued? Listen and learn more!

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Introduction and Previous Episode Feedback

00:00:22
Speaker
Welcome to another episode of And Another Thing, the podcast that continues to set the bar in the world of podcasts. My name is Jody Jenkins. And I'm Tony Clement. And we are excited to be back together again, just the two of us. Just the two of us. No guests. Mano a mano. Lots of great feedback on Garneau, by the way. Oh

Marc Garneau's Political Situation

00:00:47
Speaker
yeah, I was getting a little bit of that too. Yeah, it was great to have Donald Trump. Yeah, what'd you hear? And I approved this message. The president-elect loved that show. He loved that show. No, what were you hearing about the show, though?
00:01:00
Speaker
Yeah, I know that people were really happy that he was on and they really liked the the stories that he told. um and Can I just make this one comment? like ah you know he He got a raw deal from Trudeau at the end. I didn't really go into a lot of detail on it with him, but you know he was dropped from cabinet, from a senior level cabinet position, foreign affairs, into backbench.
00:01:29
Speaker
ah Just because, you know, Trudeau kind of tired of him and he was out of fe a favor and he wasn't the the new young thing that that some of his other cabinet choices were, you know? And I just think that was bad. You know, I know how politics is, Jody. You know what I know. Yes. It's interesting that you say that because I also received some feedback along those same lines from some of my insiders that were within the Liberal Party.
00:01:56
Speaker
um some former staffers that, uh, basically said that he was the last adult at the table yeah before he was dropped. And he got a raw deal. Yeah. and So i did I didn't, I didn't mention that. Perhaps I should have been a better journalist. I don't know, but, uh, I did want to mention that on our podcast that, uh, you know, I thought he was an excellent cabinet member and, um, and he's still an excellent Canadian.
00:02:25
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not sure he would have wanted to get into that. It was more about his book and all that type of thing. But the other the other comment I got, or one of the other

Trump's Influence and Canadian Political Speculations

00:02:33
Speaker
comments I received was ah from one of our listeners. They had commented on Instagram, I believe, saying they weren't expecting much from Marc Garneau, but they were pleasantly surprised after listening to the interview. so Lovely. Lovely. Yeah, sure. Why not?
00:02:49
Speaker
it's ah You know, and on that note, I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message. There we go. We're part of the podcast world that to help determine the US presidential election, you know.
00:03:05
Speaker
By the way, by the way, I don't know if you saw this. I actually thought it was a meme at first, but did you watch the UFC fight? Oh yeah. Not that long ago. And the Trump dance? The Trump dance. and And it pans over to him. And I actually thought that was like, I was like, oh shoot, they made a video. Like it's fake, but it's real I didn't realize he was actually there. And there's a bunch of n NFLers who got touchdowns on Sunday who did the Trump dance too.
00:03:30
Speaker
like he what a What a world. he's he's he's yeah He's the man right now. yeah no He's ah making trolling great again.
00:03:43
Speaker
ah Oh my gosh. And of course, has there been any disclosures or information about his inauguration who might perform music wise?
00:03:54
Speaker
Oh, I don't know. We should we should look into that. i Did you hear that Premier Danielle Smith, a former guest of the show, will be attending the inauguration? Yes. And how do you get like, how does she get invited to that? Like, is it how do they pick and choose? Like, would Pierre Poliev be going? I don't think he will be. No, he's doing no foreign trips until after the election. ah But um yeah, I don't know. i Obviously, somebody knows somebody and they they thought that she would be a good guest.
00:04:23
Speaker
Now, do you think if Paul Yev was invited, let's say he was he gets invited, but he would it be something that he would probably stay away from though? No, he wouldn't go. No. No, no because we've we've got a lot of significant issues with the United States, with the tariff policy, trade policy, and so on. Now, you can make the argument that that's the perfect place to start ah ah expanding Canadian influence, but I don't know. i To me, that that isn't the appropriate place to have those discussions. Interesting. Yeah, but i hey, if I was invited, I'd go.

Tony's Upcoming Las Vegas Trip and Christmas Special

00:05:01
Speaker
Well, I was going to save this for the end of the show, but guess what? Oh, you got the golden ticket? we You and I have both been invited. Oh, both of us, okay. His team reached out. They said, we can't thank you enough.
00:05:17
Speaker
Okay. for ah For what you've done for us. ah we split Are we splitting a hotel a hotel room or how are we going to pay for that? I don't know how we'll have to do that. Maybe drive down the day of and come back. or Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Just split the driving. Sure. Why not? It'd be where, hey, if I got invited, I'd go. yes why not Why not? Why not? I'd love to just meet Dana White, actually. Oh man, that whole thing is going to be, yeah. I'm sure Dana and Elon will be all, you can't, you can't go anywhere without Elon glomming along with the president-elect, eh? Yeah. And speaking of Elon, am I the only one that didn't realize that
00:05:59
Speaker
Department of Government Efficiency, DOGE, is what the Dogecoin was named after. I didn't know that. oh yeah Yeah, well, no, I mean, no, they named the the agency after the Dogecoin. Yeah. Yeah, but okay, but I get that, but it was the Dogecoin. Where did the name for the Dogecoin come from? I think it came from a dog meme. Okay.
00:06:24
Speaker
No, it had nothing to do with a government agency. It was just funny how Doge, you know, his name is Department of Government. No, I know that's, again, they're trolling liberals like crazy. It's just. I just think it's hilarious. Yeah, spectacular. Anyway, for those of us who like the entertainment aspect of politics, I'm not trying to make fun of liberal tiers. I want you to know that, Joe.
00:06:49
Speaker
OK, so we should thank our presenting sponsor, ah John Mutton and the team at Municipal Solutions. Of course, Tony, I know that you can expand on what they do. I would love to, Jodi, because, you know, Municipal Solutions, who have been there day in, day out, they are your project management team for rezoning, development approvals and other important municipal matters. Municipal Solutions cuts through the municipal red tape to bring your project to fruition.
00:07:18
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Go to municipalsolutions.ca for all your municipal solutions needs. And of course, a big shout out to our terrestrial radio sponsor, Hunters Bay Radio, huntersbayradio.com. Every Saturday morning, they have this and many other quality podcasts. And you're still on the board there, whatever.
00:07:38
Speaker
I am the vice president ah and a board member, yes I am. So when you say they have many other quality podcasts, like give me an example. I don't know, I've never listened to it Saturday morning. Okay, okay. You're just assuming they do.

Sports Talk and Podcast Schedule

00:07:51
Speaker
I know they do. yeah My show is Saturday at noon once a month. So by the time I i head in there around 10 30 11 o'clock on the Saturday and start ah putting my show together in terms of dragging and putting into place the songs that I want and the commercials and so on. So the, the podcasts are done by the time I'm there. Yeah. Okay. Cause ours is like at eight in the morning or nine or something. Yeah, something like that. Like it's, yeah, it's early. I don't get there until 10 30. Interesting. Interesting. When is your next rocking shindig? Well, it's the Christmas special, Jodi. Oh. Oh, and my annual Christmas special, which will be December 21st.
00:08:35
Speaker
And all Christmas songs with a rock twist. on a so That's right. All Christmas songs. I've got my favorites, like, uh, well, you know, uh, I don't know, uh, the, uh, the pogs, uh, you know, uh, Christmas in New York or whatever. Fairy tale of new york you New York. Yes. And I've got a ah monkey song that I like to do.
00:08:56
Speaker
And usually a who song is in there so there's a there's some some great classic rock and roll ones and then i've got some really obscure ones that i kind of cycle through bruce springsteen make the list.
00:09:10
Speaker
Yeah, I have occasionally done the Springsteen, and i when I went to see Springsteen a couple of weeks ago, of course they did. Santa Claus is coming to town, which was nice. You should play that song. It's not really a rock song, but the one from Christmas Vacation. The, uh, Melekeleke Maha is the thing to say. Okay. You know that one? Well, sure I do. Well, there's a request. I can fulfill that. You know that song, don't you? Yeah, I do, of course. Yeah, that's a great song. Christmas Vacation, absolutely. Yeah, so I think you should do that. but Okay, well keep those requests coming in. My listeners, if you have something you want me to play on my Rockin' Shindig show, let us know. Easy, easy. Now you're you're pumping that show too much. You're you're gonna have to start paying us.

Entertainment Highlights: Ben Bankus and Taylor Swift

00:09:53
Speaker
Yeah, exactly, yeah. No, I don't think... We're a not-for-profit, Jody, at the radio station. Now, you have a trip coming up to Las Vegas? Yes.
00:10:04
Speaker
And you're going to watch the Raiders play. I'm going to watch the sad sack Raiders. Uh, you know, your team, the Browns, my team, the Raiders, it's not our year. You know that yeah you mad I know it's really bad. Uh, but, uh, anyway, I'm, I, I, I'm a fan, so I'm not going to give up on my team just cause they're having a, no, no, you don't give up on your team, but how do you justify it? This is what I struggle with because I, at the beginning of the season, I was mapping out, I was going to go to a Browns game right and I just can't.
00:10:33
Speaker
I can't make myself do it because they're not playing for anything now. No, no. It's not the same. I don't care. Like, sure, winning is fine. But when you're two and eight, three and six, like, it's just not the same. now No, no. But I did want to see you've already seen the ah the stadium in which the Browns play. I have never been to Allegiant Stadium. Oh, I thought you've been. But you've been to a Raiders game. Yeah, I've been to a Raiders game, you know, in Buffalo. Yes.
00:10:57
Speaker
But no, I've never been to Allegiant Stadium, which was the site of the previous Super Bowl. So I want to see that. We've we've also got tickets for a UNLV basketball game. so Oh, nice. So I'll go to that. And I think we've got, like we're going to go, I'm going with a couple of guy friends and we've got tickets to some comedian.
00:11:19
Speaker
That comic i'll get the name for you but you know it's it's you know it's vegas so we're gonna we're gonna go we're gonna do vegas things yes brad garrett have you heard him.
00:11:31
Speaker
I have not. Okay, so he's at the MGM Grand. so Okay. So I'll let you know how that. So that's a pretty big spot, right? Yeah. So I'll let you know how Brad Garrett is as a as a comic. And yeah, and we've got all sorts of dinners planned at various sports bars. And and it's also the F, the Formula One weekend.
00:11:52
Speaker
there. Jeez. I know. I know. So, uh, but they were only selling three, you could only get a, a three day package for that for like, I think the cheapest ticket was 2,500 us. no she So we're not, we're probably not doing that. That you ride in a car for that price. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But anyway, did we have the excitement of the formula one going on that weekend too?
00:12:17
Speaker
Well, that's good. Yeah. And speaking of comedians, you mentioned you're going to see one. You also told me not that long ago that our friend Ben Bankus has some Canadian shows coming up. Is it next year?
00:12:29
Speaker
Yeah, it's in May, Ben Bankus, who was a former guest of our program early on. And we want to, I think at the time he had like 10,000 Instagram followers when he came on, or he's so like at 300,000 or something. really yeah Oh yeah. Like the guy's just blown up. Lives in Austin, Texas. I think I mentioned that. on Yeah, you did. Yeah.
00:12:48
Speaker
But yeah, he's coming back. I think already one show is sold out and they were selling tickets for the second show. So our friend Ben Bankus is making it big and he's he's doing very well. So we we want to applaud that. And you have tickets already or no? No, I haven't. I haven't got them yet. but they're they're He's at the Danforth Music Hall. So that's that's kind of a large location.
00:13:12
Speaker
262,000 followers on Facebook. Oh, is that right? Okay. so There you go. Yeah, no, he's- Sorry, not on Facebook, on Instagram. On and Instagram. Yeah, he's doing well. That's pretty big. He's doing well. The Canadian lad is doing well. Hey, did ah did did your kids get into this Taylor Swift mania going on? No, and no they no, no, no, no. They're not Swifties? They're not Swifties. They're not into the bracelets. They're not into Tay Tay. Okay.
00:13:41
Speaker
Is that, is that all over now though? No, no, there's another three shows. Okay. So they did three and then three a week off and then three more. Yeah. Like Thursday, Friday, Saturday, two weeks in a row. Okay. For some reason I thought they were going to do six shows backto back to back to back. No, no, they did two, two weeks. And then she's off to Vancouver. And I think that's the yeah unless i'm wrapping up the that's wrapping it up. Yeah. yeah ending it And it's over the first.
00:14:09
Speaker
a music tour that's gone over a billion dollars in gross receipts. Really? $1 billion. dollars Yeah. That is just wild. it's It is wild. It is a phenomenon for sure. My ah daughter went to the first ah the first show in Toronto last week and and enjoyed herself. What was the feedback? ah Very good. She played, ah she always plays a surprise song apparently.
00:14:37
Speaker
and No one knows what it is until they until they hear it. and It was ah one that my daughter was really leaning into the last few weeks since she and her boyfriend broke up. so so Apparently, this was like the perfect song for her. because so Again, when you say a surprise song, like one that she Like one that her fans know, like something off her album, it's not like a cover or anything. Yeah, but you know, you can you can track the set lists show by show, right? Yeah. And but to there's always one surprise like, you know, the Springsteen show that I went to ah at
00:15:11
Speaker
at Scotiabank Center, ah he did three songs that were from the audience, right? Like he'll take requests from the audience, people hold up signs, and then he'll point to that, and then he'll take it and then his band is like with no prep, he's gonna be ready to do that song. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Taylor Swift, she she picks one, and she out of her grab bag, she picks one, and she does that. Interesting.
00:15:42
Speaker
Interesting. Now, as a, you know, you're a musician, you played in a, I used to play in a band before they, before they, um, what's the word I'm looking for? Not disintegrated, but just kind of things change, but the Doc Spiders. Yes. Would you guys, if you guys were like part of Bruce Springsteen's band, would you be able to like have him point to a song on a sign and then you'd be ready to do it? Could the Doc Spiders pull that off? Well, we, we had a repertoire Jody of about 80 songs.
00:16:13
Speaker
So if it was part of that, none of them were Springsteen's. None of them. We'd be in trouble. None of them were Springsteen's songs. So what concert or what performer would you have the best shot at looking reasonably

Canadian Political Issues and International Relations

00:16:30
Speaker
good?
00:16:31
Speaker
If that happened. Probably Tom Petty. Tom Petty. Because we did we did that three or four Tom Petty songs. We did 76 Tom Petty songs. No, no, no, no, no, no. And and or or anything that was blues based, right? Blues based rock, you know, the the EAB chords. We could pull that off for sure. And now you're with a, you just jam now or you have a new group?
00:16:54
Speaker
Well, we're jamming right now, um but the intention is maybe we'll do some gigs. But yeah, I mean, we've got we've got a good core. Our bass player is phenomenal. ah Lead guitar is this 16-year-old kid who's... Yes, you've talked about him before. Zeppelin and Van Halen riffs, no problem. ah So yeah, we've got we've got the basis of our of a good little brand there. We just have to woodshed it a lot more. Let's put it that way. And word on the streets of Perry Sound Muskoka, again, total rumor that the band is looking at the name Beach Crickets.
00:17:36
Speaker
As opposed to dog spiders. Is that accurate or no? Well, I'll throw it out to them. We haven't got a band name, so I'll i'll run that one up the flagpole for them. The beach crickets. You like that, eh? It works. It works. Okay. Politically, anything exciting going on in Canada that we should be aware of?
00:17:59
Speaker
Well, I think that things are really grinding to a halt in Ottawa. They still have no agreement on conducting the business of government because the Liberals continue to stymie opposition attempts to get at ah get at records on their there green energy New Deal um programs.
00:18:30
Speaker
Uh, where I think there's a, there's a lot of smoke, maybe a little bit of fire about, uh, whether there's a lot of waste and mismanagement there. So, uh, until they get that done, then they, uh, they can't, uh, actually pass any bills or, and they can't even pass any money bills, Jody. So at some point they'll have to be some sort of reckoning on that because they'll.
00:18:52
Speaker
It'll be kind of like the shutdown that one hears about it in Washington sometimes. So that's what's going on there. Obviously, there's a ah most of the political discussion in Canada relates around the Trump victory and is Canada get prepared for that? we' you know are we How do we deal with threats of Trump tariffs or to renegotiate the ah the free trade agreement?
00:19:19
Speaker
interestingly the premier two premiers, Daniel Smith of Alberta and Doug Ford of Ontario, have suggested that in our next dealings with the US, we should decouple for Mexico. like Mexico ah is not really helping our cause.
00:19:37
Speaker
ah when we when we talk about trade issues with the US, which I think is an interesting point of view and actually one that Stephen Harper started to share when we were in government. So that'll be interesting to see whether we start acting bilaterally with the US rather than having Mexico and all of their you know mile high issues ah with the US that ah have no relation to us.
00:20:03
Speaker
So there's the trade issues, how to deal with Trump. ah is Is Trudeau ready to to to deal ah for Canada's interests with Trump successfully? There's a lot of um discussion about how Trump's cabinet, if you look at some of their previous statements by some of these leading cabinet figures, very very much not pro-Canada.
00:20:29
Speaker
ah No, I should, I should amend that. It's not as if they're anti Canada, but they're anti Trudeau, they're anti Trudeau. Uh, so, you know, in a sense, uh, you know how Canadians sometimes wish that Americans knew more about us. Well, guess what? They know a lot about Justin Trudeau and that that may not be a good thing. Now, Tony, I know that you recently did a panel with some young, some young punks in the world of politics.
00:20:58
Speaker
Is that correct? Yeah, it was actually high schoolers. So so high schoolers, the high schoolers, future voters forum. Right. So speaking high school language, I don't know if you'll be able to decode this, but, you know, you talked about politicians and stuff like, would you say that Trudeau has got the Riz? Like is Trudeau the Rizler? Uh,
00:21:21
Speaker
I don't know. Is he the brat? I don't know. is it bret Brat winter? rizzler A Rizzler is someone who has a lot of charm and charisma. Oh, really? Rizz is derived from charisma. Really? Yeah. So anyway, did those kids not talk like that when you were there?
00:21:38
Speaker
They were mostly either looking at their phones or I saw one of them doing her makeup, but that was about it. You were rizzing that you were rizzing it up up there? I don't know about that. I did a I did a panel on energy with ah ah the honorable Dan McTague. Remember him?
00:21:55
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Isn't he the gas guy? Yeah, the gas guy. Yeah. Yeah. So Dan and I did a panel on energy, carbon tax, nuclear energy, that kind of thing. They were about to the kids, the kids were coming and going. ah There were 300 to 400 people at any one time.
00:22:11
Speaker
Uh, and it was all run by, uh, two, two co-hosts from the, the news forum where I'm a co-host for boom and bust. So, uh, Sam Yellie, who has a show called my generation, uh, was one of the co-hosts and co-organizers. And the other one was why it's sharp, you know, Wyatt. Yes. We've never had him on the show. We, do you want to have him on the show?
00:22:36
Speaker
and Well, I mean, your buddy's with him. i I knew my new best friend. I'm sure he can come on here and Riz it up. Yeah, he would be be full of the Riz. I don't know if you're supposed to say that. But anyway, you know, Wyatt, who's really created like 15, 16 years

Social Media Platforms and Podcast Sponsorship

00:22:52
Speaker
old, yeah really created a name for himself as an interview journalist. ah You know, he was down in the U.S. for a lot of the presidential election coverage, including covering the the debate.
00:23:07
Speaker
And um yeah, he's he's interviewed for Justin Trudeau, you you know, you name it. He's. ah Has he met Trump? I don't think so. Okay. No, I don't think so. But he he sort was was hanging around the US like the Fox News and the CNN journalists and stuff like that.
00:23:27
Speaker
He's got the Riz. He's got the Riz, man. So that anyway, they they came up with this idea of engagement for young people about issues and encouraging them to be part of the political process. So I supported them on that and ah they had quite a few guests. Christy Clark was there and ah Kathleen Wynn, John Torrey was also there.
00:23:53
Speaker
Oh, so a lot of liberals, a lot of liberals. And and then, uh, uh, yeah, a lot of liberals. as Now that you mentioned it, I was there though. I'm not a little, but I'm just saying how many other conservatives were there? Not that many. You're like now, wait a second. Wait a minute. He risked you. yeah raising your up I got rizzed.
00:24:17
Speaker
Because McTig is in a, I mean, actually he's more of a he's leaning liberal, and right? I would say. but Well, he's ah ah at the very worst a blue liberal, if not what i meant yeah flipped over to the conservative side of things. he's He's no Justin Trudeau family. No, no, no, no, no.
00:24:33
Speaker
Yeah. Well, that's cool. Yeah. so we had it was I thought it was encouraging to have these these kids at this forum. It was a two-day forum. and um Yeah. We'll hear more from Wyatt Sharp. I'm pretty sure of that. Yeah. Invite him on the show.
00:24:50
Speaker
Yeah. And Sam Miele even, uh, who's got the show My Generation, uh, again, a young, a young man, uh, probably in his early twenties. Uh, he's, he's got a lot to say as well. So. Is that Tony's son? His dad's name is Tony Miele, but it's not. Not the same one? Not the Tony Miele, no. Really? Come on. That's got to be, that's impossible. Why?
00:25:15
Speaker
Well, isn't there, it isn't the one Tony Miele like a big time PC organizer? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's not his dad. That's not his dad. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But, uh, no relation at all then. What's that? No relation at all. I don't know. I didn't ask. Okay. Okay. But kudos to them for organizing this, like basically creating it out of thin air and, uh, you know, getting hundreds of school children, like high school, mostly from grade nine to 12.
00:25:46
Speaker
participating and there's a lot of Q and&A and back and forth with the audience, so that was good too. I'm sure you made it on someone's TikTok. Yeah, there'll be some TikTok action there. Maybe some snappy chatty. You're risen it up. They are. They're risen it up.
00:26:04
Speaker
Yeah. Of course, social media continues to ah just split off into many different groups. Do you know this new platform Blue Sky? Have you heard of that? No. No. What is it? Well, it's I think it was created by Jack Dorsey who created Twitter way back when. And it's basically ah millions of people have mostly progressives have jettisoned ah Twitter X because they can't stand to Elon Musk anymore. Of course. And they're going onto this blue sky. So it's and ah it's another app? Yeah. It's another micro texting app. Yeah. have you and Have you checked it out? Nope. I haven't yet. No. I'm looking at it right now. Maybe I should try it out.
00:26:56
Speaker
I think last Friday they had a million new followers on it. Really? In one day, in 24 hours, yeah. Okay. I'll have to check it out. so you know barely I use X a little bit, but not a lot. No, you and I post and ghost, right? yeah Yeah, it's not really. I read it for some news stuff. and Yeah, sports things. If there's live sports that I can't watch, i'll I'll at least check out what's going on with the score or whatever.
00:27:22
Speaker
And then we, of course, you can find our, and another thing, podcast on there, as well as on Facebook and Instagram. Where else can they find it? Well, of course, Spotify and Apple. Apple, Google. Yeah, sure. Actually, just Google podcast doesn't even exist anymore. It doesn't exist anymore. I think it's... So you can't find it on Google. No, don't don't look for it there. But you can Google it. Yes, please do. Yes.
00:27:47
Speaker
Okay, well, on that note, probably should wrap it up. Yes. We want to thank our amazing sponsor.
00:27:57
Speaker
We're a little lighter in sponsors this week. I don't know if anyone's noticed that. but That's true. Well, you know, these things, they come and go, Jody. You know that.

Closing Remarks and Acknowledgments

00:28:04
Speaker
Were the bankers happy though? Yes, they were very happy and they very much enjoyed sponsoring. So hopefully in the new year, we'll like well get them back. That's my that's my hope. ah the Canadian Bankers Association, great bunch of people. and But you know we've probably had two or three dozen sponsors over the last four or five years. Yeah. I remember you and I were talking about this. I called you the other day and we were commiserating about
00:28:32
Speaker
sponsors and who we've had. And we've had quite an interesting eclectic bunch. Very eclectic, that is for sure. But we'll keep at it. And anybody has any suggestions or want want to sponsor, we'd more than welcome that. But of course, we value you mostly as listeners to this wonderful program. Mostly, mostly. um totally Most of the time. mostly Oh, and I should say I had the chance. I took, uh, a good friend of the show out for lunch, Mike Steph. We were able to catch up finally. He loves the program. And, uh, yeah, we had, uh, two bowls of soup, actually. Ooh. Yeah. A place called bourbon street pizza. Nice. And, uh, shockingly no pizza was eaten. Okay. A nice tomato basil soup.
00:29:20
Speaker
Oh, Mike's, Mike's recommendation. So yeah, tomato basil. That's now I'm all now I'm not big time hungry. So Anyway, big shout out to John Mutton and the team at Municipal Solutions. You can find them online at municipalsolutions.ca as well as Hunters Bay Radio, where you can catch this podcast Saturday mornings, 88.7 up there in Huntsville. That's right. and We will do this again in seven days, Tony. We certainly will, sir.