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End of Summer Reflections
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All right, welcome back to the show.
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It's hard to time that, I feel like the intro is just painfully long. Add it to the list. Yeah. We're here last week of summer, unofficial week. I can't believe it. I know. I'm kind of happy actually.
00:01:26
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Yeah. I like this, this time of year, like, uh, maybe it's a little early, but the next, you know, say like six weeks, this is like the time of year. Perfect weather. Yep. It's, it's amazing because we are a short destination. So you have all the visitors right now, which is fun. And then it just becomes locals only. Yeah. Which is really nice.
00:01:48
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And luckily here, we've already phased out the real out-of-towners because everybody else goes back to school early. So the people that are here now are really somewhat local. It's all tri-state people. True. And then after what? Monday, they'll all be gone.
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We had some of our best days at the beach in very late August, early September, when the kids were little, you'd get like a nice swell would come in, just like four to five foot waves.
00:02:21
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nice low tide. And I just have great memories of the kids, you know, me being out there with them, boogie boarding, surfing, whatever. And, uh, and very few people on the beach. Yeah. And the water's the warmest at that point. And clear because it's not, there's not as much boat traffic. I don't know if the boat traffic actually affects the ocean like it does the river. Cause the river is crystal clear, like the third week in September, but you go onto the river now and it's, you can't even see to the bottom.
Exploring New Jersey's Natural Beauty
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I saw pictures of the beach in like Long Branch from the weekend. It looked like like Florida. It was like, you know, blue, green water. I mean, like in the wintertime here, the water is like like almost like brown because it's getting so churned up from all the because we get those those Northeast winds and everything and everything gets all churned up. And it was like it looked almost like tropical.
00:03:17
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Yeah, it's amazing. I, my son, I think Jack has video of him surfing on a wave with hundreds of rays or skates. I think you call them skates, right? Yeah. Skate is like a small, I don't know if they're, how closely they're related, if they're like a different. It's like a Stingray, but it's, I mean, people don't really put that together with the Jersey Shore, like with the,
00:03:40
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I posted a short video on my Instagram on a bike ride I did out to the hook on Sunday night and people just don't, they don't think of Jersey because I was riding along the coast and then to my right is the ocean and to my left was a bunch of guys out kitesurfing. So it's a pretty cool area.
00:04:02
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Oh, yeah, yeah, Jersey gets a bad rap. And if you've, you know, we all know it, but nobody else does.
The Infamous 1916 NJ Shark Attacks
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Everybody from, you know, these flyover states. They think they're going to Newark. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But every state has areas that look like that, you know, but not every state has areas. Wow.
00:04:22
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I don't want to generalize. Every state has nice areas and not so nice areas, but people seem to forget about the nice areas in Jersey. You know, we have mountains, we have rivers, creeks and the beach and everything. Yeah, I think this part of Jersey doesn't have the rivers so much like this, like. Yeah, but you just drive a half hour. So if you're if you're looking for a river a half hour from here, what where are you going? You got the Raritan, you got the Manasquan.
00:04:51
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Wait, so you'd go way upriver.
00:04:54
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Uh, well, you can go like right down to like, say, um, like, uh, what would be, what would be west of like, uh, the brick area. You know, you have Manasquan river where you can catch sea run trout up into the Manasquan, you know, you can catch fresh, all the freshwater species. Wow. Um, you know, the Raritan, you know, you have to go further north, like say an hour, 90 minutes to get to like the real nice fly fishing sections of the Raritan, but you know, the Raritan is renowned for its trout fishing.
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you
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Well, the, the rarity, and I think that's where the, that bull shark went up in, uh, in like the 19, um, that's what jaws is based on. Yeah. Like the 1920s. That's what jaws is based on 1916. I think it was. I just watched a little, uh, documentary on YouTube about that. It was cool. Fascinating. Yeah. So it's, it started, I think in spring Lake, there was an attack, um, like a guy who worked in, in the hotel. Yeah. He went out for a swim on his break and.
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his legs just got eaten. Well, that's what happens. You just bleed out. Yeah. And then like a couple of days later, a little further north, I forget where exactly it was. Might've been Long Branch. I don't know. Anyway, maybe Spring Lake was the second one. Another person got attacked. I forget if it was a tourist or somebody else. And then
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in Matawan, up in the river right here, which is, it's not the, it's not the Raritan River. Oh, okay. It's, it might just be like a creek. Yeah. A kid and a man got killed. Which is crazy because they're in a creek. Yeah. You know, but that's the thing with bull sharks. They can go in, I guess, brackish water. Yeah. Like they might even be able to go in freshwater. I think, yeah, for a certain amount of time.
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But yeah, that's kind of a I don't know of a lot of people know of the origins of Jaws, but that's where it comes from. And I'm pretty sure it was a bull shark.
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Yeah, I should send you the thing. It was pretty cool. And it's like, it's maybe like 20 minutes long, like this little documentary that somebody made. Yeah. There's a bridge in Matawan or like a, it might be just like a culvert or something, but they have like a big jaws like painted. So the mouth is like in the culvert. Oh wow. It's pretty cool. Let me see. I'll pull it up. Well, I remember hearing a story that somebody was going over the bridge and saw a big shark swimming underneath it.
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Yeah. Yeah. And they, I think, um, they ran and they told people, but then the kid had already been attacked and, uh, and then somebody I think went out to try and save him and then they got killed or something. Oh, wow. Look at that. Pretty cool, right? Yeah. That is wild street art inspired by the New Jersey shark attacks of 1916. That's pretty cool. Yeah.
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And it was, oh yeah. And then they killed a shark. Like they went, obviously they went out on the hunt afterwards and they found a shark that had a bunch of human remains. Really? Yeah. Oh wow. Yeah. I see. I never heard that part. Yup. Weren't they going out there with like dynamite? They were just going to town. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, 1916. Yeah. There's no, nobody, nobody watching over. Nobody cared about the sharks in 1916.
00:08:19
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Right. And in the movie, it was placed in Long Island.
Nostalgic NJ Music Scene
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Is that what it was? I think it was. Yeah, it was. Jeez, I forget the name of the town now. I think this is the video. I'm not going to click on it because it's going to do the sound, but I'll make sure and then I'll send it to you. It's definitely worth checking out. I mean, that's such a better half hour than anything you're going to see on actual TV.
00:08:45
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It's amazing how you get these small documentaries. I saw a documentary on 1063, Modern Rock at the Jersey Shore. Do you not remember 1063? No. So you're probably too young. I wasn't in this area. I only came out this way in like 2010. Modern Rock at the Jersey Shore was
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Excuse me. A kind of a new and I don't know if new wave. Now they played like grunge. They paid played like alternative alternatives. The word.
00:09:19
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And it was just a really great station. And then I think at some point it just, uh, you know, it turned into a country station. I guess it wasn't making any, I don't know what it is today, but it was really good. And there's a documentary. I'll try to find, find a link to it because it's pretty cool. I really had a big following. You had people like the chili peppers going there. You have the big bands going there because you know, it was,
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around this area, if you weren't on 102, I think of one or two seven or 90.3, you weren't getting played. So pretty cool to have a small rock station with such a, such a following. Yeah. Really loyal following. So yeah, it just goes to show you like these small documentaries are, can be really great.
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Yeah, that was like Rob and I talked on one episode a while back about Birch Hill, which was a music venue in New Jersey. And like if you go, you can go back and find the like the tickets or whatever, like we're not the tickets where they say who played that on the date or whatever. I don't know what the hell you call that.
00:10:25
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It's crazy. It's like all these huge bands. And this is like, you know, early late 90s, early 2000s. It'd be like system of a down. And then it was like the next year they were like platinum. You know what I mean? And it was like all of these bands that just exploded were playing at this place. Just like some shithole in New Jersey, you know?
00:10:44
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I've been on a systems of the get system of the down kick lately.
Music and TV Preferences
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I like them. That was like my, one of my favorite bands in middle school. Oh man. They're just so good. They're so good. It's, it's pretty intense stuff. Oh yeah. Did you see the, um, geez, there's a, there's a good show on Netflix. It might be called meat. She's, um, me 80 or M E E T.
00:11:10
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I thought it was me 80 and I think it had a, one of the stars is a, is a Korean comedian female. Um, I forget Ali Wong could be a, yeah. I don't know if she's Korean. That was the only one that popped in, popped in. Find it here. But, um,
00:11:31
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just really great soundtrack. And they had a song from System of the Down and I was like, wow. It just kind of reignited, you know, like reignited my interest in that band. And then you just go down a rabbit hole and then me and my 15 year old daughter will be driving around listening to System of the Down. And is she into it? She will be. She...
00:11:50
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Well, she likes Taylor Swift. Right. She likes a lot of crummy rap. Like I like rap, but some of this rap and then stuff is bad. And then like she'll be in my truck with five of her girlfriends. Like they all just be packed into the truck.
00:12:06
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And she'll go to put her music on and the lyrics and I'll just say, I'm not listening to this. Yeah. I mean, there's no there's nothing normal about a grown man listening to these lyrics with these six 15 year old girls. I mean, it's just like if you don't feel weird, then you're weird. Right.
00:12:24
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Yeah. We were driving home in the U-Haul, uh, from dropping off those kitchen cabinets. And, um, you know, I didn't have a cable or anything to hook up my phone. So we just had the radio on and I was like, Oh, let me put on hot 97, which that's like the new, the New York, at least it used to be hip hop station, hot 97. They always played the, the, it was hot 97. They played the hottest hits or whatever. And we listened to maybe half a dozen songs.
00:12:51
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They were so bad. It was all like, it's like this like mumble rap they call it. Yeah. And it seems like everybody's using an auto tune. And the beat, every beat was like the same. Like if you go back to like, um, I'd say like 1999 was like the pinnacle of hip hop. Like the beats that those guys were making were just all crazy, you know, like these crazy produced beats. You had guys like Timbaland who and like Kanye West was a producer at that time.
00:13:19
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They were doing all these samples from the sixties and seventies and it was just cool. You know, every, every artist she puts on sounds like the next artist. And she does like country music. And so I like country music too. So she's gotten me into that a little bit. The name of that series on Netflix is beef. Beef. Yeah. B E E F. And it was Ali Wong. You're right. Okay. She's funny.
00:13:46
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She is funny and it's, it's a great show and, uh, I would definitely recommend it. And, uh, David Cho was in it. That sounds familiar. David Cho is, um, he's an artist,
Nostalgic Films and Technology
00:13:57
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uh, just a really, uh, I found it to be a good series. Like if you're looking for something,
00:14:06
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Oh, yeah, I know David Cho. Yeah, I've heard him on Rogan back in the day. Yeah. He's got some crazy stories. Yeah. When he was like in the jungle, like and then he's he like claims he saw like that dinosaur. I listened to him a few times, too. And I thought some of it was like, you know, take it with a grain of salt. I mean, just look at him because he's a little bit out there. Yeah, I'm listening to to Russell Crowe on Rogan right now. And it's pretty interesting. The
00:14:35
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you know, the exercise regimens that he was on for Cinderella man and just a dedication. Like sometimes you can be like, Oh, it's an actor. What are they doing? But then there are some real, you know, some of these guys and gals really put their, their physical bodies through a lot. Oh yeah. Look at Christian Bale in a, what was that movie? The Machinists. Is that what it's called? Yeah, that was a good one. He was like,
00:15:00
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in 80 pounds or something like 85 pounds. Well, the same thing with. Oh, see, I can't remember an actor's name for the life of me, but it was it was the Texas dude. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Dallas Buyers Club. Yeah. Yeah. What the hell is that guy's name? I forget. But he lost a ton of weight. He said on I heard him on a different podcast and he was talking about it took him like a year to kind of really recover.
00:15:30
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Yeah. He looked horrible in the movie. 120 pounds. Okay. I was off by 40 pounds. Yeah. Look at him. Tall. And he's a tall guy. Yeah. Like, you know, from Batman to, uh, wait, did he, he played Batman, didn't he? He did play Batman and he played, um, he was also one of his first films was when he was a young kid in, um,
00:16:00
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He was in a, he was in a Japanese prison camp during World War II. Really? I haven't seen that Empire of the Sun. Great movie. Really, really good movie. It's interesting to see him grow. Yeah. Yeah. That's a really good movie.
00:16:19
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I have to check that out. I just got a new TV. That's exciting. 75 inch. Put it in my bedroom. Wow. It just fits between the windows. There's like four inches on either side. It's crazy. How thin is it? Um, cause they're like paper thin now, aren't they? Yeah. You know, this is like, I, I didn't spend a lot of money. So cheap now. Where'd you get it? Best Buy. Wow. 469 bucks or something. They're so cheap. Why are you like, cause a year ago or two years ago, I bought a TV and they weren't cheap.
00:16:49
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Yeah, no, they were. I mean, obviously you get a better TV the more you spend, but it's maybe like this thick and the thickest part. So what's something like that go for? It was 469 bucks. Oh, 469. You said that. Yeah. That's not bad. Yeah. You know, it's 4k. It's got, it's like a fire TV. So it's got all the apps. It's like this. It's got all the apps built into it.
00:17:10
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Isn't it wild that you don't have to think about like routing cables anywhere? You can just hang something on the wall, plug it in as long as you got power. All you need is, yeah, just the power cord. That's great. Yeah. I mean, pretty much everything in your house, like your alarm systems, everything. If you got power, you're good.
00:17:25
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Yeah. Thermostat is. Yeah. Well, that has a thermostat wire, but Wi-Fi, you know, control from your phone. Yeah. We hooked up the Nintendo switch to it, which is nice. So we're playing like Mario Party. Cool. Three of us, which is it's just like a fun, easy game. That's that reminds me. I watched a real classic this weekend. War games. Oh, yeah. Did you ever see that? Long time ago. Yeah. Matthew Broderick and Ali Sheedy. Yeah.
00:17:56
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That was a good movie. I think they were talking about remaking that. It'd be kind of scary today. Yeah. I'm sure it was scary back then. It kind of was scary, but I mean, that was 1984. So I was in high school and it wasn't that scary right now. I feel like the world is really scary. If you were an adult though, you probably would have been scared because you're in high school. You're like, eh, whatever. Yeah, I think nothing scares me. I think you're right.
00:18:23
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Young and dumb. You know, you just go underneath your desk, right? Yeah. Duck and cover. Yeah. Duck and cover. Yeah. Now, you know, I see like you see like those St. Jude's commercials or something like that's enough to like put me out for the whole day. Yeah. Oh my God. I guess we should talk a little bit about woodworking
Current Woodworking Projects
00:18:42
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or something. What are you working on?
00:18:44
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I'm working on a couple of things. Um, so I'm, I'm wrapping up probably in the next day or two, um, that cherry cabinet with the white door to match the stuff that's under the stairs. I definitely would like to shoot a video on that and get your B roll from the last project. I love that project. Yeah. I love the way cherry and white look together as such a clean, just such a clean modern look. It's modern, but at the same time it's warm.
00:19:11
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Yeah. I forgot how good, cause I'm using the vesting on that. I forgot how good cherry with the oil finish on it looks. That seems to have darkened up already. I, so I put it out in the sun this morning. I was wondering about that. Yeah. I was thinking about wheeling it out front cause I get real direct sun out in the front in the afternoon. Yeah. Just to kickstart it a little bit because I told the client, I'm like, listen, you have to realize like, I'm going to put this in. It's going to look different than the, than the other stuff because that's been in your house for, um,
00:19:42
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Two years at least. Yeah. Well, I've put, I've left cherry boards in my truck where they're sort of crisscrossed over, not even for like more than 15 minutes and you'll have a big shadow line. Yeah. So Keith milled up the solid stock for that stuff several weeks ago and it was just sitting on the racks over there. And when I unwrapped it, it was this, you know, it had like stripes that I had to like sand out.
00:20:12
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Yeah, cherry is really one of my favorite woods. Just so nice to work with. It just ages beautifully. Like I'd like to build my dining room table out of cherry, but my wife has got her heart set on walnut and it's going to get sun exposure. So it's going to lighten up. It's not going to be as dense. I feel like cherry is a little bit more dense than walnut.
00:20:35
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Uh, I think, no, I think walnut is actually harder like on the Jenka scale. Is it really? Yeah. I feel like it's easier to damage. I don't know. I feel like it could be a little imposing, like a big chunk of walnut like that is like, cause it's so dark. It could be like a little bit heavy, you know, whereas cherries like a little bit. Yeah. But cherry does take on, I don't know. I think walnut just looks more modern.
00:21:00
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Somehow. Yeah. I feel like cherry gets a bad rap because it was popular in a time when design was kind of antiquated. Yeah. Or maybe it's not. Maybe it wasn't antiquated at the time, but now we look at it as antiquated. Um, but like if you make, if you use a really modern design, I think cherry lends itself really well. I think the red in it though, just has something in it that, so I have a few pieces of cherry furniture in my house.
00:21:30
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And I think, I think they look good, but I do think my wife has a point on this table. Uh, I mean, I think Walnut is probably the way to go. I would, I would lean a little bit towards white Oak just because it's going to be in, it's going to get full sun and white Oak seems to be the most stable wood for color. But, uh, she, she's not going to have that. So it looks like we got a mountain of red Oak over there. I know you're never going to be able to get rid of that.
00:22:00
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I offer it to anybody who comes by. I'm like, if you ever need to build anything in a red oak, just let me know. It's funny, red oak, I mean, it just, it always reminds me of Dunkin Donuts and McDonald's. You know, it's just, there's something about it. I love white oak. I don't necessarily love working with white oak. The edges are
00:22:25
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You get them squares and they're super sharp. And then you go to sand them and you're always having a piece flake off. Always. Yeah. Yeah. That's where you have to be using that star bond. Yeah. You know, you're always like, I'm always like just tacking pieces together and then sanding it down again. Cherry is definitely my favorite wood to work with. Yeah. Like cutting dovetails. Not that I love cutting dovetails, but I'm going to cut dovetails. Cutting them in cherry is just really nice.
00:22:54
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And it always has such an interesting color and grain to it. Like you get so many colors coming through and cherry, you get grays and pinks and greens and browns and. Yeah, and if you don't mind the sapwood, then you can work with that, too.
00:23:08
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Yeah, I think, you know, used in the right context, it looks nice. And Freddie Roman said something recently that I never even realized or thought about that, like the New England cherry is more red and the Pennsylvania cherry is a little more brown. And all the cherry that I've ever bought is from Pennsylvania. Really? Yeah. Okay. I didn't know that. I don't even know where my cherry is coming from, but I guess it's coming. I guess if I get it from Lewis in the future, it'll be coming from Pennsylvania. Yeah.
00:23:38
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Yeah. So like I said, I thought about building the sauna with cherry, but now I'm going to eventually build that out of Poplar. I just saw a sauna for sale. Did you? You're on Facebook all the time, huh? Yeah. I don't know. After I texted you now, it's like ice plunges and saunas. It's funny how that your, your phone and your computer is just clued. I mean, they're definitely listening to us.
00:24:06
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Yeah. Even if not like listening, uh, like the, uh, you know, listening to sound, they just know, you know. Well, it was really funny because I saw a short clip. It was like Saturday night. I saw a short clip on a Joe Rogan was talking to a guest about how dark side of the moon syncs up with, I saw that too. And then I saw that you posted about it.
00:24:32
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Yeah. So you saw that. Sure. So we're talking about the Wizard of Oz. Yeah. It was what's that guy's name? Not Tony Hinch. Was Tony Hinch. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. He does a podcast slash YouTube show called Kill Tony. Okay. Yeah. That is a riot.
00:24:48
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I'll have to check that out. I've heard it's good. It's super raunchy, but it is a riot. I've heard about it. So I saw that little clip and I thought, oh, that's interesting. This is like something that my wife is not going to be interested in at all. So she's doing something and I'm in front of the TV. I'm like, I'll check that out. So I am trying to sync up first. I'm doing a search for Wizard of Oz. I find that
00:25:13
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And then I go to, uh, I go to Spotify and I'm trying to start dark, dark side of the moon at the same time. The show is starting and then something comes up on my phone or notification or YouTube, uh, wizard of pink Floyd. So I click on that and it's already done. So then I go to the smart TV and click on YouTube and I had never heard of it before, but it does sync up and it's pretty cool.
00:25:38
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Yeah, I've checked it out before. I can't remember. I think I might have been in an altered state of consciousness. That seems like the best way to watch that.
00:25:49
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Yeah. The funny one of the first comments is like hats off to the first donor who realized this. Yeah. No, that guy's a legend. That's like the people who would like play like the Ozzy Osbourne backwards. You know, that's funny. Well, when I was a kid, it was all backwards stuff like Led Zeppelin backwards. I don't know what any of it really amounted to, but it was always like like the Eagles with Hotel California. That was all like supposed to be like Satan worshiping. Yeah. Yeah. Meanwhile, if you
00:26:19
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ever hear an interview with Don Henley. It's like it had nothing to do with any of that. Yeah. And you play anything backwards. It sounds weird. Yeah. And I mean, they were just saying like the lyrics in Hotel California was a St. Anak thing. And it was just, you know, I don't know who knows. Yeah. You know, you can never leave. Yeah. So you're working on this cherry cabinet that I definitely want to get back over here and make some video of that and then get some of your footage from the original build because I know that
00:26:48
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I know that I'm interested in that just from a design point of view. So I figure the viewers will be interested in that as well. Yeah. You never know what's going to spark an idea. Cause I've said it before. I think one of the hardest things about woodworking is having a good design and a good idea. So like the way you guys put those cabinets underneath those stairs was a great use of space and it looks fantastic. Thanks. So it's a, I think it's a good video and a good way to
00:27:18
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I don't know, use that footage because you don't have any videos of that. You just have the stills. Yeah, I don't think so. But, you know, since we already filmed the video for this week, if we wait until I install, I can get some video of it there. So what we just filmed this week was the the best products for exterior projects. So I think that that was sort of inspired by the Adirondack chair that you built and then
00:27:47
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And then I did do an exterior project last week, but it was that could be more about fasteners and wood. Yeah. Because I ended up using mahogany and I got a DM from Rob DeMarco because I didn't know what the mahogany was called. And he said it's probably Sippo mahogany. I mentioned that to Jeff and just said, yeah, they use that a lot.
Challenges in Sponsorships
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I guess he and Corey use that a lot.
00:28:11
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Yeah. Yeah. It's not something that I've used. We always use a pealy. Um, but I've heard a lot of good things about Sippo. It looks good. It was four 80 linear foot, as opposed to four or five quarter, as opposed to seven 20 for a one by six e-pay. And I didn't even look for, uh, some PLA because
00:28:34
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I did want the round. I wanted the decking boards with a little round over. Uh, so that worked out great because I was able to get 12 footers and the 12 footers were 12 feet and one inch. I needed, I think 12 pieces that were 35 and three quarters. So I have like no waste. I love that. So it turned out to be
00:28:59
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kind of an expensive project for a little dry well with a deck over it, but it looks good and it drains the water. It's for an outdoor shower, but it mentioned that. Did you see the berm that you you're putting in? I didn't. So now I've just got, I excavated out an area two feet deep by three feet by six feet, put down landscape fabric and then put drainage stone on that.
00:29:25
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And so all that material that I removed, I'm turning into a berm and it's not good material. I mean, it's from the courtyard. So it was like sand. Yeah. A lot of, uh,
00:29:37
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a lot of just kind of fill dirt from the construction. I found a lot of bricks. I was shocked how sandy my dirt was when they put in the fence. Like, well, this whole area. Yeah. You go mountain bike and you see a lot of sand in the woods. So, so right now I've just got this ugly mound of dirt that's about, I don't know, 18 or 20 feet long that I've got to, uh,
00:30:03
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level out a little bit and then put some topsoil on it and then see that I'm trying to get in trying to get in touch with Jonathan Green to try to do a project for them. The the woman that I've worked with at Jonathan Green for the last six years left. So I'm trying to reestablish that relationship that often can be
00:30:23
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you know, the thing between getting a job and not getting a job. Yeah. So luckily I have the owner's number. I'll just send him a text. Maybe if I don't hear from him, we'll see. Yeah, man. Like if I took over a position like that, first thing I would do would be reach out to every old contact and be like, Hey, I'm the new.
00:30:38
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She called me and told me, Hey, I'm leaving and these people get in touch with you and they never have. So, uh, but that happens. Like I've worked with mountain khakis, I think for six or seven years and then somebody left and that relationship sort of fell away. And then somebody else went in and now I'm working with them again. So, uh, I, it's funny because I was getting ready to buy clothes. Like I haven't bought clothes in ages and, uh, I'm like, Oh man, Laurel, I'm going to have to break down and actually go shopping and buy some clothes.
00:31:08
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Where were you going to go? I was probably going to go to mountain khakis. Yeah. I just liked her. I liked the way the pants fit.
00:31:14
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So, and I had already bought one pair of pants because I just, I needed something. And, um, and next thing you know, I get an email and I, uh, you know, I'm like, okay, great. And she goes, why don't you just go ahead and pick a few styles and I'm going on vacation. That way you get the clothes. And then when I get back, we can start coming up with a plan. So I literally just went and picked a bunch of stuff, sent her a screenshot.
00:31:40
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four days later, box shows up at my door. So I'm like, this is great. Yeah. So hopefully, um, the way I've always just worked with them for clothing. So it's never been a, it's never been a lucrative deal, but it's just nice to get good clothes. Yeah. Um, yeah. Cause they're not cheap. No, they're not. You spend a lot of money and it's nice to, uh, no, it's, it's also nice not to go shopping and the whole thing. So, um,
00:32:06
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I think I think going forward, I'm going to have some kind of a either coupon code or something so they can actually track how many sales this relationship makes, which will be great because I have people all the time asking me what kind of clothes you're wearing and this and that. And I have it in the descriptions of the video, but I'm not really motivated to push because they're not they've never been open to a relationship like this. Right. So now if they are going to
00:32:38
Speaker
be more of a serious partnership, then I'll probably make a separate space on my website for Brand Ambassador and all that sort of stuff and really try to sell their clothing. And then it'll be fun to see what kind of sales they make. Yeah, the coupon code thing is tough.
00:32:59
Speaker
Cause we've had them before, like with Unida, we had one. And I know of like a half a dozen people who bought that three by four sander directly from our recommendation. Like I spoke to them about it personally. And they're like, yeah, no, only two people have used the code and you were one of them. Like, okay. So that, I worked with Acme tools and I kind of had, I probably should have treated this relationship a little bit differently because it probably would have worked out over time.
00:33:28
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but they gave me a decent amount of tools. And I posted a few videos where they were the direct sponsor. And then it was gonna be no pay, but I would get a certain amount with- Like a percentage. Yeah, certain percentage.
00:33:43
Speaker
So I had a few close friends who needed tools, who bought tools and it didn't, it didn't register. And so that just kind of gave me like a bad taste in my mouth. And then they wanted me to promote this some combo kit, like the Walter Makita or whatever. I said, okay, that sounds good to me. Send me the combo kit.
00:34:07
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And I'll make the video and, you know, at least I'm getting the tools. Everything's cool at this point. And it ended cool, but the relationship was still going.
00:34:16
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So they said, um, yeah, we just don't want to send you the tools though. And I said, well, I don't know how I'm going to make a video about tools and talk about these tools and test these tools out and show these tools in action without you sending me the tools. Right. It'll just have to be just like a passing comment. Like, Oh, by the way, I can be cool. Listen to the wall. Yeah. Right. Like if they'd sent me the tools, think about all the reels and posts and videos I could have made.
00:34:44
Speaker
So it kind of went back and forth and it ended with me just saying, you know, I'm sorry. I just don't know how to do a video that way. So I'm not going to do it. And then it just kind of slowly burnt out and faded away. But meanwhile, I think if I, if I didn't do that deal, but I kind of if I pursued the relationship,
00:35:05
Speaker
it probably could have been pretty lucrative. And I can still maybe revive that relationship, but I could have also maybe pushed today's craftsmen into it. And maybe we could have been in a place where we're getting tools once a month, which is cool to get tools once a month, but also great to create content around tools.
00:35:25
Speaker
Yeah. Well, yeah. Like we talked about, you know, like, man, we should make a video about like a tool because we haven't done it in a while. And it's like, you know, only buying tools every so often. And like a lot of times what I'm buying is not like the hot new cool tool that's going to get views on social media, you know? Yeah. Well, that would be cool to have like a partnership with whomever. Yeah. Acme tools or a tool nut, something like that, where they could send us, hey, this is a new Milwaukee pin nailer, whatever.
00:35:55
Speaker
You know, I've gotten past the point, like I don't care about reaching out. I don't care if somebody says no to me. So I may reach back out to ACME with that proposal and just put a link to the tough built video and say, Hey, do you want to do this? We'll do a, we'll, we'll start off with, you know, six videos a year. See how it goes. Or maybe 12 videos a year, one, one a month.
00:36:21
Speaker
And if they go for it, like, that's the thing. It's all business. There's nothing personal here. You're saying, hey, do you want to, uh, I think that this might have some legs to it. And I also think that like, I don't really enjoy doing tool videos on
Woodworking Collaborations and Innovations
00:36:36
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my own. Cause I'm not that much, I'm not a gear head where you're a gear head. You're like a self-described gear head. So if you get a tool.
00:36:44
Speaker
you're going to know the ins and outs of it and you'll be able to get that information out. And that will also be a fun video for me to edit. So, um, that's pretty easy for me too, because I'm kind of just like, you know, the tools right there in front of you, you just, I'm just going over what's right there. I can see it with my own eyes, you know? Yeah. And if it's, if it's a good tool,
00:37:05
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then you'll be using it in the future. And it's something that you can tag back to, you know, you can make a short and then connect the original video to it. And then if it's an affiliate link, so it could be a good thing.
00:37:19
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, that'd be cool. And I think people like the episodic nature of like, oh, like, you know, every four weeks there's a tool video coming out on today's craftsman. They might not consciously know that it's like, oh, every four weeks. But I think people like to see patterns. Yeah, I agree with that. Let me ring my doorbell. One second.
00:37:43
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Did you cut this part out or you just, uh, just answering the door. So we're seeing who's at the door now. All right. We're back at a couple of visitors. Yeah. All of a sudden, uh, pretty popular. Yeah. Uh, rich from Hayfla stopped by, dropped off a, uh, sample and actually a drawer box order from Hayfla as well.
00:38:07
Speaker
That's great because that was supposed to come tomorrow. Is that for your kitchen? Those are for so that, um, the white kitchen job that I did in down in Avon, they, um, they had me doing some doors and drawers on the third floor. Nice. And like a built-in that they, the GC built. So somebody built it and you're going into install, install new drawers. Yeah.
00:38:32
Speaker
And you're going to just bring down your drawer slides and your drawers and figure it out? Yeah. So the new door showed up yesterday. I have, what is it? Two, 10 drawers and two doors. So would you just go down there and measure it and order everything? Yeah. Primed, they'll paint it. What kind of construction did the GC do?
00:38:56
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Uh, not one that I would have done. That's what I was worried about. Yeah. It's, it's like, you know, I'll do it, but like, I really don't.
00:39:06
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I don't want to. Because it's an existing customer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, um, I don't want to be like, not, man, I'm not going to do that for you. Yeah. Well, you know, it might lead to something else. Yeah. Yeah. And I, you know, I charge for my time. Um, it's all just T and M. So it takes me eight hours to do it. It's eight hours. It takes me six, you know? Nice. Yeah. Nice. I'm sure to look good too when it's done. Yeah. Yeah. Just a shaker inset here. I could show you, I have it, I have it right here.
00:39:34
Speaker
So what did he do? Just frame it out? Uh, they built, they built these cabinets. Originally it was supposed to be overlay. It's kind of weird that he would agree to do something halfway. Like why would he say, okay, I'll do that, but I'm not going to do the drawers or doors. It's just not really in their wheelhouse, you know? But why would he agree to do any of it? Like why wouldn't he say, Oh, let me just, why don't you just get the kitchen guy, uh,
00:40:01
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Well, I guess it keeps his guys busy, you know, building the building the cabinets. But I mean, if you didn't go and say, OK, I'll finish this, who are they going to get to finish that? That could be a difficult thing. Yeah, I don't know. That's what I mean. And I did it on the first floor, too, in the in the like living room and the mud room. Same thing.
00:40:17
Speaker
So maybe that's why he did it because he already knew that he had you in the wings to do it. Yeah. So originally the first floor stuff was like they floated the client. Like I, it was something that I was potentially going to do, but it was like, I was so busy that the kitchen itself was stretching me. I got you. And then, um, they had somebody else that they were thinking about using and I think they, nobody ever pulled the trigger and it was like, okay, now the GC's got to build the built-ins. So what's the finish on the built-ins?
00:40:47
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just painted white painted. I don't know what product they're using, but was that just all built with plywood boxes? Yeah. There's a face frame. There is a face. Yeah. Yeah. It actually, um, you know, I'll show you, uh, what it looks like last time I was there. Did they, did they paint it? Yeah. How are the face frames joined? Oh yeah. It looks, that looks pretty good. Uh, I don't know if they're pocket screwed or they might just be like, but it's just like built in place kind of stuff. You know,
00:41:17
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Nice. Yeah. It looks like, uh, I don't know. I primed it with bin and then I can't tell what the other paint is. But they left it natural inside. Yeah. But there's no, there's no overspray on the inside, which is nice. I mean, not that that matters, I guess. Yeah. They like taped it off in their paint, you know, they're like brush, brush painting everything. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. So it's not a bad little, little job. No, not at all. Nice to fill it, you know, I'll go down there for a day. It'll be,
00:41:44
Speaker
Yeah. You're going to get paid and it's not like a lot of mental real estate. No, I'll make a jig because it's, so it's, they're all 25 inches high by whatever deep. They're all 18 inch drawer boxes. So I'll just make a jig that I can slap on the side, pre-drill the holes, throw slides in. See, I, I hear that. And I think, is that a video? Yeah. Is that a video? What do you, I mean, it sounds like a video to me. I don't know. Everything to me is just so mundane that I hear you and I, I know what you're saying, but like that,
00:42:13
Speaker
Like as soon as you say you're going to make a jig, you're going to make something that's somewhat complicated, relatively easy. That's going to work out. Yeah. You know, it's just a matter of making that jig. Um, I might even use a laser. Hmm. It depends. Sometimes it takes more time to draw it and put it to like send it to the laser than it does to just do it yourself.
00:42:34
Speaker
Yeah, no, I can imagine. I've never used a laser, but I can imagine that. Because I'll just drill three-eighths inch holes and I'll use that like VIX bit with the five millimeter bit. And then I'll use Euro screws. Nice. Yeah.
00:42:49
Speaker
Speaking of the laser, uh, makes me think Walter and I are trying to kind of come up with some projects, not so much projects, but products. I sent him a picture of my Veritas square that I have. You ever seen that? It's like, it looks like kind of like a double square, but it's fat. It's like real wide. They don't make it anymore. It's a great tool. I was using it and Keith was like, this is another example of like, you know, everything is just so,
00:43:16
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regular to me now that because I've just been doing all this stuff for so long. He's like, oh, man, he's like, what's that thing? He's like, that's cool. I'm like, oh, this and like, this is a spare toss. I forget what they call it, a cabinet maker or something, but they don't make it anymore. I sent it to Walter. I'm like, this is something that like, you know, you can make. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's a lot of fun, all the stuff he's doing because
00:43:41
Speaker
it opens up your vocabulary to so much more. You know, it's, it's, it's pretty cool. I know that he's going away for a couple of days, but then when he gets back, I think we're going to meet with my web guy and try to figure out a good way to
00:43:57
Speaker
come up with a, we have a few products in mind, but then also come up with a way, I think it's a pre-order or something. So you- A drop, they call it. Yeah, but it's the idea of like, you don't have that investment until you're already, you know that it's going to pay off. It's like with the salt boxes. Exactly. We don't make them until we're paid. I'm not going to make it and then hope to sell it. Are you done with those? Are you completely, are you going to do a lesson? I'm never going to do them again. Really? No, I can't. My wife asked me the same thing like two days ago. Really? Okay.
00:44:26
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It's too much of a risk, too much stress. I just responded to another, uh, cause the video that we originally shot on the salt box is three years ago or more. It's done really well. I don't know. I never remember how many views, but it could be 200,000 or 600,000, but it's done well. And, uh, occasionally you'll get the comment.
00:44:49
Speaker
I think that's far, I think that's way overpriced a hundred dollars a box. You know, people say that, or I could get this at the dollar store. And so somebody said something the other day and I was like, well, they're all sold out. So, you know, and I said, they sell out within 24 hours. I mean, I understand you're not wanting to do them.
00:45:05
Speaker
Usually it's, it's like less than 15 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. And I think I mentioned, I said that, you know, it's, it's a part of the product has to do with very well-known chefs. I mean, that's really what it takes. And a quarter of the sales price goes to charity. Yeah. But you know, there's just, but I don't get that much.
00:45:28
Speaker
like nasty comments on YouTube, but occasionally do. Usually I just don't answer them. The salt box is sometimes it's fun to because I'm like, well, you have to wait for the next order. You know what I mean? Like, look, I would never buy one of those. And I'm like, oh, they're not available right now. But if you wait, they might come up again. You know what I mean? Yeah. Sometimes think about it. Yeah.
00:45:46
Speaker
But they are nice that, you know, my, my wife has one and, uh, I have an extra one that I am giving to my mother. I keep forgetting to bring down the shore, but they're really nice. Yeah. I just gave Leilani, um, I had three that were the lid was all jacked up. So I cut them off. So they're, they're only about whatever up to that second to last finger is. And they're just like open. Nice little box. I'm like, would you want these? Like, yeah. I was like, cause I'm just going to throw them out.
00:46:17
Speaker
Well, you know, the other thing though is these are a hell of a lot of work. I mean, these are a lot of work. Oh my God. FedEx is trying to get in one second. Okay. It wasn't FedEx. It was Amazon. Do you know if they have somebody else who will make the boxes? I don't know. We haven't discussed the fact that I'm not doing them anymore. Okay. Um, could be an opportunity for someone else.
00:46:42
Speaker
Yeah, I yeah, I floated it by somebody they didn't they they've seen behind the scenes. They didn't sound too interested. Now the the boxes were the main motivation to get the laser. Yeah, it was the whole origin of the laser. So it was first it was, oh, man, we're going to have to hand brand all these boxes. So originally we're going to just get a stacked shaper cutter that would cut that side in one shot, you know, stacked up like a box joint. Sure.
00:47:12
Speaker
And I'm like, man, we're going to have to hand brand a thousand boxes. I'm like, what if we just got like a small laser and then we could put them and then, you know, it'll just do it. And then I'm like, wait a minute. I'm like, can't we just cut the whole thing on a laser? And then I ended up sending the file down to Chad at Chad's custom creations. He cut a sample, confirmed that it would work and then bought the laser. Wow. Yeah. It's also the motivation for your most recent laser.
00:47:39
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I had, yeah, I had to get something because. And this new laser is almost double the price of the original laser. Uh, no, about 5,000 more. So it was like 12 and 17. So now what do you imagine yourself doing with the new laser?
00:47:57
Speaker
Well, I'm kicking around the idea of getting rid of it and putting that money towards the CNC. Okay. I was wondering about that. Cause I don't need both, you know? Yeah. I really don't use the laser. Um, it's cool to have, but like I don't need it. It takes up a decent amount of space.
00:48:14
Speaker
Yeah. And that could be used for like finishing. That could be like a table where stuff is either getting staged or prepped or whatever. Yeah. Because it's right adjacent to the finishing there. I could even make like a little, I don't know. I'm getting ahead of myself. But
00:48:30
Speaker
The main thing that I use the laser for now is like making templates and stuff like that. Well, if I have a CNC, I don't need the laser for that. So I sell that. Let's say I get 10 grand for it. I could probably get a little bit more. I mean, it's only got 20 hours on it or something like that. That's a nice little down payment on a CNC.
00:48:53
Speaker
So what is the, uh, what's going on with the CNC? Um, I've definitely put a more, I think realistic, uh, timeline on it. My goal is not by the end of this year. I would have already had to buy something, you know, cause there's, you have like eight to 12 week lead times on most machines. Um,
00:49:17
Speaker
I don't know. I'm sort of leaning away from Shopsaber now. Okay. I'm not sure what I'm going to do. And so you'll just keep working on the relationship that you have now with the guy that's cutting your cabinets. Yeah. So my idea is that I really should just continue having my parts cut until it's not sustainable at all.
00:49:40
Speaker
I like that. I mean, I like the idea of keeping your overhead as low as possible for as long as possible. I mean, overhead is just such a killer. So if you can keep your overhead down and I mean, then you don't have that big tool in your shop taking up all that space. You can focus on getting the jobs. You keep that guy busy. You're busy. I don't know, does he have any competitors?
00:50:08
Speaker
Uh, well, yeah, like we used to use that guy, Steve in Connecticut. So there's, you know, so you can shop around if you need to. Oh yeah. And if you get two or three jobs going on, you know, you get ahead of them, you got somewhere to go. Right. I like that. And then if you get to the point where, you know, people just can't keep up with you and it makes financial sense, then you pull the trigger. I like, I like that.
00:50:29
Speaker
Yeah, and maybe I do it so that like, you know, you know, I have to mark up the CNC services.
Art and Market Dynamics
00:50:35
Speaker
So maybe I allocate a portion of that markup to go get sucked away. It's like, you know, five dollars for every sheet that gets cut is going straight to purchasing a CNC, you know, or whatever. Twenty five dollars.
00:50:48
Speaker
Smart. Yeah. I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea and focus on getting the jobs and you know, especially the thing is if you end up getting hooked up with a builder around here and you start to be busy on a regular basis, you're always going to be busy. That's my hope. Um, you know, I want to cut boxes. That's what I want to do.
00:51:12
Speaker
Well, the thing is you, you get into anywhere, anywhere from Rumson to Manaloking. If you can get that, first of all, it's nice traveling. Even if you're going to Manaloking, it's reverse flow. 40 minutes. Anytime you go up North.
00:51:31
Speaker
you have an X factor. I just, I grew up in North Jersey. I grew up an hour and 20 minutes north of here. And I, I can't stand going up north because it, you're just always, you're going to get, you're going to get jammed up at the Oranges on, uh, on the parkway.
00:51:51
Speaker
You got something's going to have those stupid toll plazas, two of them in the middle of the parkway with no express lane. It's just like I don't know. There's like a stress factor that comes that I get when I have to travel north. Now, that being said, I will I will never go up there on a weekend in the summer because you know, you might get, you know, hit with short traffic. But.
00:52:15
Speaker
in the fall, I will go up on like a Saturday morning. I'm going to go on a hike with my cousin or something. But then it's sort of like, nobody's really out on the road yet, Sunday, Saturday or Sunday morning. But yeah, if you can, if you can get busy from Fairhaven to Manaloking, get those builders and there's just
00:52:34
Speaker
Like we talked about it last week. I mentioned Bayhead. Bayhead through Maniloking, Point Pleasant. The homes there are just, I mean, of course, Rumson Deal. Although I don't know. The deal area. Deal is pretty cliquey.
00:52:49
Speaker
Yeah, I think it is. I've heard that if you get in there, it's good. But I had a couple of bad experiences in my business with them. You hear that from most people. Yeah. Or they just waste your time. Yeah. And that's the thing that happens once. It's funny because
00:53:08
Speaker
I think, you know, I was working with a client and they were, you know, they were going to buy everything, you know, this is going to like, they're going to buy everything. It's just like this crazy thing. They ended up buying like one thing and it was like the most inexpensive thing. And then like maybe three weeks later,
00:53:26
Speaker
one of their friends approaches me and they want all this artwork. But give us a good deal on this small one first. Well, it's even worse because they wanted all this artwork.
00:53:41
Speaker
And they wanted, they said, you know, we really want to live with it for a little while so we can see what we like it. So if you could bring it down Friday morning and pick it up on Monday, that'd be great. And I looked at Laurel and I said, they're decorating their house for a party. Let's just say, no, we can't do it and see if they come back. Never heard another word from them. Yeah. We could do it next week. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's, I'm not putting everybody in a basket, but that's the situation that was, that I was feeling there. Yeah. And I, and that's what I've heard from a lot of people.
00:54:11
Speaker
Spring Lake is really nice. Spring Lake. Oh, there's a town. Seeger is beautiful. Seeger. Yep. Did a couple of jobs in Seeger when I was in there. I started working as a finished carpenter right after 9-11. So we had opened our business in 1999 and we were getting ready for this art show. It was probably
00:54:39
Speaker
It was probably, we were actually setting up on 9-11 and a guy who was working for me, we drove over to the gallery and we're kind of cleaning up the walls and hanging all these things. And one of the sculptures that was right in the window was by this sculptor named Don Onham, really talented guy, did all this work in fiberglass.
00:55:08
Speaker
And the sculpture was like a human body attached to a bomb. Oh, you told me about this. Yeah. So so like that's right in the window and they canceled the thing. Right. Well, so we're we're hanging the show. We're like working in the gap. We're working in the gallery and not listening to the radio. And we get back into the truck to.
00:55:28
Speaker
drive back and pick up some more tools or something. And we're listening to Howard Stern and they're talking about this and we're like, what's going on? Was this in the city? No, this is when we had the gallery in Red Bank. And then so Matt, the guy who worked for me, we go into the house and we start looking at the TV. My wife's out on a walk.
00:55:51
Speaker
she comes back in. I'm like, Laurel, look what's going on here. And she was, everybody was just like shocked. And, you know, right away they're calling a state of emergency. And so I was like, Matt, you better take off because he, he actually was commuting from North Jersey. Oh wow. So, he took off and, anyway, long and short of it. We never, yeah. Joke.
00:56:17
Speaker
That's my role. The coughing and wheezing is my role. Anyway, we did cancel that show. I think we canceled the opening. This artist, his artwork wasn't about violence at all. Like if you look at him, he's an unbelievable craftsman.
00:56:39
Speaker
He's passed away years ago, but that just happened to be like he was into he was really into airplanes So he had like these airplane shapes that would it would look like an f-15 fighter That on the nose of it would be like a human figure with goggles on it was like it was really cool stuff You know the fun. This is the funny thing about artwork, right? There's so many really talented artists
00:57:08
Speaker
that if I had the right home with the right architecture and pretty deep pockets, I could collect really cool art that wasn't recognized by the art world at all. But it would look awesome. Because the art world only picks a few people because that's how they make money. They can just keep saying, oh, this person's really great. It's really a trophy. It's a trophy for the people in the know.
00:57:37
Speaker
So even cooler, like if you, let's just say like you are, you know, just, just had fun, silly money to play with instead of buying the, the, the $2 million Jeff Koons.
00:57:51
Speaker
you could buy a $25,000 Larry Zocks and it would just look awesome. And not a lot. A lot of other people have it. Well, I guess not a lot of other people have people don't either, but no, well, people, more people do have Jeff Koons because Jeff Koons and Damien Hirst, they create factories. These artists don't even generally touch their work anymore. Right. Which seems crazy to me.
00:58:14
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That's just how it is. So just think about it. It's a brand name. That's what you're buying. You're buying a trophy. It's like when you buy a Stickley. Stickley died whatever 85 years ago. Yeah, it's wild. So this guy, Don Bonham, you can probably buy his work relatively inexpensively. I mean, you'd have to try to find out where it is at this point.
00:58:41
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But you'd also have to be committed to living with sculpture, right? So one thing I learned very early on as an artist selling artwork is it's a hell of a lot easier to sell a painting than it is a sculpture because everybody has a wall, but not everybody has a place that they want to dedicate to having a sculpture.
00:59:05
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Yeah. Like where do you put that in a foyer? Yeah. That's like, I can't think of another place that would be practical in a home. Well, unless it could sit on a table or something. You and I are thinking of practical homes. Right. If you get out of that and you start thinking of like these crazy homes. Yeah. Then you're like, you could design the home around these pieces of art. Yeah. You're having it built. It's a whole different, it's a whole different thing. Yeah.
00:59:26
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So anyway, sometimes in my mind, I entertain the idea of having a pretty cool modern house. And then going on, it's almost like a hunt for art then, because you're not really going for the
00:59:48
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what's popular. It's more like what's good and how it connects to history. And there's a lot of art like that. There's a lot of really, really good art that nobody even knows. And it's just sitting in the closet right now. That's what's going on.
01:00:02
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And like, yeah, that's like the kind of stuff that ends up on, like, say, Antiques Roadshow. Like, you're like, yeah, you know, my grandma had this thing. She's had it ever since I can remember. And they're like, oh, yeah, this is like by, you know, yeah, whoever. Yeah. Well, there's a really funny movie called
01:00:21
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Uh, it's called what the F is a Jackson Pollock. And it's about this, uh, older woman. She must be in her seventies and she's a truck driver. And, um, one of her friends is feeling down and she finds this painting like in a yard sale or sort of wherever. And she buys it for her friend and the friend's like, what the hell do I want with this thing?
01:00:45
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And then so she ends up taking it back and then someone sees it somewhere and says, I think that's a Jackson Pollock. And so it becomes this whole thing where everybody's, some people are trying to prove it is a Jackson Pollock. And then the establishment, the powers of that be really are trying to prove that it's not. But meanwhile, it's got his thumbprint on the back of the canvas with the paint that he was using at the time.
01:01:13
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So in my view, it's a Jackson Pollock. Like how else could they get his thumbprint? But the people who don't stand to make any money, they're all trying to convince everybody that it's not a Jackson Pollock. Yeah, because they don't want to see the underdog. And maybe they think it's somehow going to devalue. But meanwhile, I believe at some point she was offered nine million for it. But if it is a Jackson Pollock,
01:01:41
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It's worth, I think, north of 50 million. Wow. You know, it's crazy because it's an unknown, like I'm sure every Jackson Pollock painting for the most part has been cataloged and analyzed. Yeah. You know, you could probably buy a book and it has them all with the values. And, you know, so now they're like, oh, there's this new painting. It's going to be worth an exorbitant amount because.
01:02:01
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Yeah, it's it's it's wild. I mean, it's like when they find a manuscript that, you know, an author wrote, an author wrote a book and died and then they find this book and they're like, holy shit. Like, you know, we didn't realize that Stephen King wrote this. That's not great.
01:02:20
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But that's the funny thing. So like if somebody with some sort of power and connections and money had found it, it'd probably have an easier time convincing everybody that it was an original. Same thing with this Jackson Pollock. It's like, oh, what do you mean? It was found by this 70 year old woman truck driver. It can't be an original.
01:02:39
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Right. Yeah. So he was just selling it at a yard sale for 10 bucks. But meanwhile, somebody did offer her, I believe like $9 million. Now this documentary has got to be 12 years old at least. So she's pushing it, but I'm sure she has children. It's a good documentary. If you're interested in this kind of stuff, I think it's called, I think it's called what the F is a Jackson Pollock. Let's look it up. Maybe she sold it.
01:03:06
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Yeah. They, the art world is pretty wild because you have to think when Jackson Pollock was making those paintings, there were a lot of other artists doing similar work. Like actually a lot of people believe that his wife, Lee Krasner was the first one who made drip paintings. Yeah. There it is. It looks like a Pollock to me bought it from a thrift shop for five bucks. Yeah.
01:03:38
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check out that movie. You'll enjoy it. It's, it's a, now I want to watch it again. She was offered a 9 million. Yeah. And then she said she'll take no less than 50 million. She died in 2019 without having sold the painting sold it. Yeah. Well, I guess somebody, one of her, uh, yeah, it's from 2006, one of her, uh,
01:04:01
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Next of kin might have it. I mean, it's funny, like not that it's not easy to rip off a Jackson Pollock once you've sort of studied it, but it has it looks kind of like a Jackson Pollock to me. I mean, if it has this number on there, if somebody offered nine million, that's what I mean. It can't be a fake. Who's going to spend nine million dollars on it? You know, that's what I think.
01:04:24
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So anyway, that was, uh, it's, it's another, another movie that, uh, I recommend. I think the first thing I recommended was, uh, that beef show. It's here. Oh yeah. I'm always looking for something good to watch.
01:04:39
Speaker
Yeah. I have to finish the bear season three.
Closing Thoughts and Recommendations
01:04:43
Speaker
Walter. So the funny thing is Walter has, uh, the subscription to whatever the bear is on a Hulu. And, um, so he put it so we could just all watch it in the TV room. And then I guess my daughter,
01:05:00
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gave the login to one of her friends and Walter is like really fastidious with like everything he does. So I guess he's somewhere, he gets a notification that someone in Brooklyn or something is logged in and he's like, what the hell is this?
01:05:18
Speaker
So he changed everything. He changed everything. And I'm just lazy. So I don't know how to, I just need to get it and like get in there. Cause I'm, I'm not going to buy a subscription to Hulu, but I would like to see, I would like to see the third episode of the bear. Yeah. We watched maybe the first three or four episodes. It seems to be a little slow moving these, this season, like not a whole lot happening, but they, you know, they're building up to something.
01:05:47
Speaker
talking of food shows, did you see the menu? No, I heard that was good though. The menu is really good. Yeah, I heard that's good. That's such a good movie. My wife saw that. I think I've done this a few times where
01:06:01
Speaker
I'll pay to watch something on Amazon. I'll never pay $19. It's sort of like my cutoff. I'll pay $5.99, but if I see $19, I'm not going to watch it. Especially to rent. Yeah. Because like the new movies are 20 bucks to rent. Yeah. But it's cheaper than calling to the movies. Oh, and I'd rather watch a movie at home. Me too. I'm just, like I said before, I'm an old and boring guy.
01:06:26
Speaker
I ended up buying something for five, oh, I ended up buying the menu. And then I think we were finishing it up and Michael walks by or someone says, oh, you could have got that on Netflix for free. I've done that before. Here's the bank manager. A month I've been waiting for my new credit card. Why? No idea. What credit card?
01:06:54
Speaker
PNC. So when we went and signed the bill of sale and stuff for Rob's retirement, you know, we had to close the existing credit card account because we're both guarantors. And so we had to close that one. I had to open a new one. That was like July 26th. It's now August 27th. That's insane. Yeah. Are we going to go to a new bank?
01:07:20
Speaker
No, that's like a whole pain in the ass. We do need to do something with today's craftsman, LLC. Well, that's all done, but I mean a bank account. All right. We'll have to start making some money. Yeah. We're going to be like, where do we send the check? And we're like, uh, can you send an envelope full of cash? Yeah. There you go. That'd be nice.
01:07:43
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Um, what do you say? Wanna wrap this one up? Yeah. Yeah. That's good by me. Yeah. Uh, make sure you check out tomorrow's video about, um, exterior project. What would you call it? Materials finishing, uh, exterior blues, putties, and cocks. Yeah.
01:08:03
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Yeah, what I'll end up doing is doing a search for that, looking for a decent title. That usually helps me write the description, figures out the thumbnail, and we'll probably have another viral video. Yeah, we can only hope. Make sure you, if you're listening to the podcast, you enjoy it, tell a friend, same thing with the YouTube channel and follow us on Instagram if you're not already. Talk to you next week. All right. See you guys.
01:08:32
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