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Introduction and Sponsors
00:00:01
Jeffrey Krug
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00:00:26
Jeffrey Krug
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00:00:52
Jeffrey Krug
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00:01:06
Jeffrey Krug
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Audio Issues and Improvements
00:01:07
Jeffrey Krug
Welcome back. I've got my fingers crossed that the audio is correct this time. If not, just, uh, just stop listening to the podcast. I'm not going to believe it until I start hearing it on Friday morning. Oh man. Um,
00:01:22
Jeffrey Krug
This is probably going to be a short one too. Yeah. Yeah. I got to hit the road. We just shot a video and kind of crunched for time. It's the end of the day. We had some technical difficulties for quite some time.
Woodworking Techniques and Technology
00:01:33
Jeffrey Krug
Pretty ah cool video though. The possibilities because all everyone listening probably knows I consider myself like a low tech woodworker. I like sort of feel my way through projects and where Jeff is like all about the computer. It's like you and Walter, you know, just the stuff you do sort of boggles my mind. But anyway, Jeff just cut out patterns for this project we're going to build. And thinking looking at it and thinking as a painter, I'm like, holy cow, the possibilities that you can for painting woodblock prints, all the different shapes. It's just, man, I just want to make paintings like I just want to be up in the studio designing shit and then see it didn't be part of it like getting put together. Yeah. ah That would be so much fun.
00:02:19
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, like for me, the technology, it's all like how, you know, because Because this is a business, I need to do everything as fast and ah and efficiently and accurately as possible. So it's like anytime I can leverage the technology to do that. For sure. Well, I mean, you have to make that initial investment though too. I mean, look at the look at the price of that laser and look at the price of all the tools really. So I think i think ah well for you probably pulling the trigger on the laser was probably getting that job.
00:02:51
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, um so the saltbox job, we took it before the idea of a laser even crossed my mind. The whole reason we got it, you know or the whole reason the idea of a laser came up was that we had to put all of those Kenji Leone logos on the boxes. So they used the first time like a little brand, like a branding iron. Like, man, we're gonna have to heat up and brand 1000 boxes. Those branding irons, like it's hard to get a nice logo. Yeah, and perfectly positioned. Yeah, yeah. So I'm like, what if we just got like a little laser and then we could just like laser, laser into the box. And I said, Oh, why can't we just cut the whole thing out on the laser? Then I started talking to Chad,
00:03:33
Jeffrey Krug
from Chad's custom creations, although I don't think he's Chad's custom creations anymore. Maybe he still is on social media, but. um And I had him cut out a box on his laser to, you know, as a proof of concept. And then it was like I talked to Adam from three dot and I'm like, do you care if we cut these on a laser? He's like, no, I'm like, all right. So the first run, you really didn't have any problems with the laser?
00:03:58
Jeffrey Krug
No, we had a ton. You did not not with the laser itself, but with ah just not knowing what the hell we're doing. And then you you you ended up buying all the material pre-milled. Yep. Did you try milling any of the material first and then say, hey, we can we can do better? No. So right off the bat. We knew. Yeah. And and you just went online looking for pre-milled material. Yep. Hmm.
00:04:26
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, it worked out good. Yeah, I just got a quote I sent out. So there's going to be a presale next week. I sent out a ah ah request for a quote to Ethan over at Okuch. I'm going to get 300 pieces of each this time because I always seem to cut it real close. Usually I get 280. So you're going 150 of each, walnut and cherry? 250 of each. 300. I'm buying 300 cherry, 300 walnut. Oh, 300. OK, OK. Yeah. Nice. Because you get one box out of each run.
00:04:55
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, each piece makes one box. Okay. So each box is made from one piece of wood. So all the grain and color and everything. That's really nice. They're really great. I mean, ah I have one because you you gave me one of them. ah It's walnut. My wife loves it. She cooks with it all the time. I mean, it was like funny watching her cook during touring Thanksgiving because you know, her hands just kept going into that salt box and she's really comfortable in the kitchen. And that just worked perfectly with the whole setup.
00:05:24
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, and it looks nice, you know, like mine, I have like a peninsula, it just stays on the peninsula. And you know what, it looks great after heavy use. The finish doesn't, nothing happens to the finish. like it's It really is durable. That's that tongue oil. Yeah, it's impressive stuff. And that's not like, you know, we just dunk those like, you know, that it's not like heavily, heavily finished with tongue oil. One dunk?
00:05:46
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah. Wow. But, you know, we dunk it in and then pull it out. And it's there's like a probably a sixteenth of an inch of oil surrounding that whole thing. And then it sits and drips for a little bit and then it gets hung up. Does it drip on a sloped whatever countertop and then you recollect that oil? Yes, we have like a rubbermaid bin, like almost it almost looks like a bus bucket. Like if you ever worked as a busboy and we have wire ah like wire, almost like cookie drying racks over top of that. And we stick something under the one end so that all the oil, you know, goes down to one side. And then ah then we have some on the flat. So it's like you fill up that top one, they drip back into this bucket so we can recollect that oil. And then from there, they go on to the wire racks just sitting on on the table and then they get hung up. So you sort of work in state, you know, you you dunk 30 something boxes, then you hang them all up. Cool. Yeah.
Material Sourcing and Project Planning
00:06:45
Jeffrey Krug
I wanted to mention we took a road trip to Monteith Lumber yesterday. So the guys at Monteith were really cool. they yeah They let us have the wood for this project. It's not a lot of wood. It's only 13 board feet or something like that. I think he said each one each board was like 13 board feet. So it wasn't a lot of material. And every time I go there, I usually meet somebody who found out about Monteith through my show. I've done a few.
00:07:11
Jeffrey Krug
a few videos, like a tour of the shop, a tour of the Lumberyard. Just talked about it a lot in stories, but it was really good to get the material. And um I was thinking, because i I know that you mentioned Lewis while you were talking to Eddie there. Are you planning? I i was thinking about building my beehives out of cherry.
00:07:38
Jeffrey Krug
Uh, because it's so inexpensive, especially the, uh, what do you call it? It's a pink grade or something. Yeah. Sappy cherry, man. I just got rid of the price price list. I should have showed it to you. They have like, uh, C grade Poplar. It's like 60 cents a board foot. What is, oh, C grade. Okay. yeah Yeah. Um, but, but what could that be? Like Poplar doesn't really have knots. I know Poplar's like straight. I don't, I don't get it. Maybe it's just twisted stuff. Yeah. I don't know.
00:08:06
Jeffrey Krug
I don't like working with popular personally, but why not? ah It just doesn't really paint that great. Okay, so you always you always work with maple or MDF. Yeah, like now I'm trying to move mostly towards the HDF. It's harder than hard maple. It's it has less moisture than real wood. It's you know,
00:08:26
Jeffrey Krug
um I used to be a big hater on anything MDF, but, you know, it really is a superior product. See, I think Maple is hard to work with. I hate Maple. Yeah, Maple's twists, it burns. um Any of the wood painted stuff I did recently was Cherry. Okay, yeah. Well, Cherry paints really nice yeah and mills really nice. it's easy Yeah, you'll get a few burns, but I'd much rather work with Cherry over Maple any day. I guess I can see your point about Poplar, but um
00:08:57
Jeffrey Krug
It gets real furry, like it really grain pops. It really does grain pop. You're right about that. I just like the fact that it's just like long boards without any, you know, it does twist up a little bit, but not not too bad. I mean, sometimes cherry will twist up a lot. Yeah.
00:09:13
Jeffrey Krug
Maple's the worst though. I can't stand working with maple. yeah I don't even like the way maple looks. I'm not a fan. ah like I don't even like bird's eye maple. When I first started woodworking, I loved to like find pieces of curly maple or tiger maple and stuff like that, but I kind of got over that phase. ah there's It looks good with stain on it. you know like the That table I built looked nice.
00:09:39
Jeffrey Krug
are like a gun stock. Yeah, that that looks walnuts that walnut is the king of I guess you're right.
00:09:48
Jeffrey Krug
I thought you were going to say something. i was but then i was like um I had something that I was going to say before, but now now that threw me. um like Okay, so oh Lewis lumber. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And beehives. So How much lumber do we have to buy to get like a pack of lumber? For them to come out here, it's $1,000. We've got to order $1,000 worth of material. I don't think I'm in a place where I want to spend that kind of money or even have that much wood hanging around. Yeah, I don't have any hardwood, heavy jobs coming up.
00:10:26
Jeffrey Krug
ah just I looked at and looked at my yard the other day from the road and I i saw the beehives. ah Surprisingly, it looks like two the um I only went into the winter with two hives and it looks like those two hives are alive. They were out flying around yesterday. I was suspect because the it seemed like the hives seemed weak going into the winter. We'll see.
00:10:51
Jeffrey Krug
But I just, what happens to beehives is, you know, you, you you end up getting boxes from different people. ah Like, so we started doing the bees maybe 10 years ago. And the first hives I just painted way and then my friend had hives he painted blue.
00:11:08
Jeffrey Krug
And then another friend got out of it and he had multicolored beehives. So now I just have like these multicolored beehives that are all dirty because that's the thing with beekeeping. Everything is dirty. You don't realize it, but ah it's not that the bees are dirty.
00:11:24
Jeffrey Krug
But I don't know, when you're checking the but hive, honey gets on the outside of the... It's all sticky and dirt sticks to it. It's all sticky and dirt gets on that. and So everything is dirty. And so the it doesn't look like nice, crisp, clean paint. So now I'm thinking the best solution would be to make the hives out of cherry. Or, you know, you could use cedar or whatever, but cherry's so inexpensive and cherry's a good wood for exterior use. My feeling is you make them out of cherry, you put a little oil on them.
00:11:52
Jeffrey Krug
And they'll sort of become natural looking. and You just you don't really see them. They're just boxes. And I'm trying to streamline it. If the bees make it through the winter, I'm going to try to change my whole operation where I'm keeping the bees in eight frame boxes.
00:12:09
Jeffrey Krug
and they're all deep so right now you have 10 frame boxes and you have deeps for the brood box that's where the queen lays all her eggs and the bees are born and then you have what are called honey supers and that's where the honey gets stored. The problem with that is early in the spring the there they're collecting a lot of nectar and they might be putting it down low in the honey super and they might be putting it up I mean low in the um bruw box in the brood box and they might be putting it up high but what that makes it impossible to do is interchange the frames right so like if I go into the brood box and it's full of honey
00:12:51
Jeffrey Krug
there's no place for her to lay eggs and all she wants to do is lay eggs. So I need to be able to pull those frames that she's now got neck that the ah the bees have put nectar in and put empty frames down into the that brood box so she can keep laying and that'll suppress the hive's desire to create a new queen and then swarm and then when they swarm you lose half the hive. right So I got that from Andrew over at um over at Honey and Wales, also Branch and Foundry. ah hu Andrew's amazing. like he He's a beekeeper. I'm
Challenges and Insights in Beekeeping
00:13:23
Jeffrey Krug
a total half-assed beekeeper. I mean, totally, admittedly, half-assed beekeeper. One day, I think I could become good, but I don't put enough time into it, and people don't realize it. Beekeeping takes time.
00:13:33
Jeffrey Krug
like You know how your day is, right? It's like you got a lot of stuff going on. Imagine and all of a sudden you saw like a swarm of bees that you knew was from your hive and now you think, okay, I got to stop everything and go try to catch this swarm. And then you go try to catch that swarm and then you don't catch it and you just wasted an hour and a half your day. How do you catch them? Well, if you're lucky, the bees will be on a branch that's low enough and then you put on your bee suit, get all your stuff ready, get a ladder out.
00:14:04
Jeffrey Krug
Climb up the ladder and try to shake the swarm into a cardboard box and then put that swarm into a beehive, another hive that you've taken time to get ready. So all this shit just like takes- You don't just fly away? No, if you get the queen, generally they'll, you know, it's it's not all the time, but usually they'll stay and they'll just create. And the the good thing about like a new,
00:14:32
Jeffrey Krug
A new swarm is they are, they're really productive in creating ah wax comb. So they kind of get, they really, they really pack that high about quick. They're like motivated. They're yeah they're really motivated. Exactly.
00:14:44
Jeffrey Krug
So like these are all the things like Andrew, you know, he's always rearing queens and like just focusing on the genetics of the queen and he's really into it. Like he gives shit about honey. He's all about like getting a good strong ah genetic queen where I'm sort of like, yeah, that sounds really interesting.
00:15:04
Jeffrey Krug
but I just don't, it's just not my thing right now. Sort of, I'm i'm spread too thin. We were just talking about this. I'm uploading three videos a week now between today's craftsman, the art channel and my channel, which I love doing, but it doesn't leave a lot of time for anything else. Wait till you're doing Two River TV also.
00:15:21
Jeffrey Krug
Oh, did John talk to you about that? No, you were telling me about it. Well, I think we can do that because John will do a lot. um See, that's the thing, like I think I could do that with John because ah John brings a lot of skill to the table. Yeah, he's good. The idea is like we go and we interview somebody, and then ah John will bring all his photography skills and all his internet skills. so And also I think that we would really try to build that channel once a month, once once a month uploads and maybe once every two weeks. That'd be cool for like a online magazine kind of thing too.
00:15:59
Jeffrey Krug
Well, that's the idea. We think that it could it could be a good revenue generator, ah the sort of the local happenings. I mean, this area, not not where we're sitting right now, yeah but the area... Maybe in 10 years. Yeah, maybe. The area over in like the whole Rumson Fairhaven area, with which is kind of where this would would um focus on, is a very monied area. And they'd also they also kind of like to know what ah what's going on. Yeah.
00:16:28
Jeffrey Krug
And I think we would probably focus that channel also around the building industry, because I think that's sort of, ah everybody can relate to it. Everybody kind of wants to look at inside that house that's going up around the corner. Have a big green street joinery ad, right? That's right. Centerfold. Well, the whole thing is it kind of works. It kind of feeds everything. Yeah. That's the idea of it. So Jeff and I have talked about a couple of builders to try and reach out to. well So we'll get there.
00:16:55
Jeffrey Krug
I have to talk to John about that. Probably next week we'll meet about that again. I could always talk to Paul. I don't know. They weren't that receptive back when I was working for him, but... Yeah, i'm and I'm going to reach out to Tim again and my feeling is once we get one going,
New Ventures and Community Engagement
00:17:10
Jeffrey Krug
you know what I might do too? Maybe I'll take those videos that are on my channel and put them on the Two River TV channel. That way there's sort of it's already sort of peppered in there.
00:17:22
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, because you did one with a guy down at Point Pleasant or something, right? Yeah, I did a couple with Jack and I did some with Tim. And so that would kind of get the ball rolling. um And I could even see, ah like I know Anthony over at Real Antique Wood has done a lot of work for builders in the, um like the Seagurt area. So I could even see doing a shop tour with Anthony and every, you know, talking about the different projects he works on being also good for my channel and also Two River TV. So yeah, there's a fourth channel. My wife heard this, she'd be like, what the fuck you doing? You go to restaurants, too.
00:18:03
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah. Well, that's the whole thing. Like ah so we the last video we did for Two River TV. I was doing that with Peter. We went over to Bird's mouth brewery and that was fun. Yeah. yeah um But it's just, you know, you have to you have to put a lot of energy into it. And I think John's I think John's up for it because John's into the YouTube. Yeah. And he wants something. He's looking for something. I think we talked about it. So I just do that out there. And I said, What do you think?
00:18:30
Jeffrey Krug
We'll see. Yeah, he's definitely a creative, you know. Yeah, he's cool. Yeah. he's He's super talented. And he's kind of one of these guys who just like over delivers, I think. Like I i sent in some things today. I'll tell you what I'm doing.
00:18:45
Jeffrey Krug
Over the years, i I put up a lot of free plans on my site. So I'd make a little guitar hanger, right? And I'd put up the plans for free. I did major projects like ah the TV lift cabin that I put up. But these are like my plans that are sort of like hand-drawn plans with some number like cut lists, very rudimentary. It's like the ones that we put up for free. It's like one page with the critical dimensions. Yeah. And yours are typed, where mine are just like hand-drawn sketches.
00:19:15
Jeffrey Krug
But those measurements in the video, most people can build it. So I ah would always get... Emails from people saying what happened to the free plans on this project because one my site crashed A year and a half ago or whatever it was a lot of that got lost now I still have all that information in external hard drives, so I was talking to John about it and we've decided to make a page for just free plans and right now I think I've got about six on there and
00:19:49
Jeffrey Krug
ah That way, that way, ah people can get the plans for free. Like I get a lot for this garden bench and there's a garden workbench and a planter. So we're coming into that season where people like these videos have a couple hundred thousand views and people want to build that stuff. So the plan is to get ah Maybe I have 10 to 20 free plan projects there. Really great for getting the weekend woodworker out into the shop on a Saturday morning. And once we have that running and we can kind of see what kind of traffic that page is getting,
00:20:28
Jeffrey Krug
then I can try to sell that page to a potential monthly sponsor. Yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out. Like, if we can, like, let's say I can say, okay, this page is getting, you know, 300 views a day, then I can bring those analytics to a potential sponsor. And when somebody goes to that page, it'll be an unlisted video on my YouTube channel. That's a minute long, maybe talking about mountain khakis are the oxygen or whoever. And for whatever the price is, that's just another revenue generating thing. Yeah, and I think that's something we could do with today's craftsmen. It's just sort of but
00:21:07
Jeffrey Krug
The thing with John is you mentioned that to him and he's he just keeps the ball rolling. Yeah. So it's cool. And then when I send him one, I usually get an email like an hour later. It's done. Yeah. Just done. I sent him the bits and bits affiliate links ah yesterday. And you know, most if you were dealing with some other web manager, web designer, you know, it'd be a week. Yeah. And they were up, you know. john Yeah. Done. It's like those emails. He just replied done.
00:21:36
Jeffrey Krug
So with the bits and bits, if you can, like, I think you need to get a big flush cut bit. Yeah. So if you could come up with a half a dozen bits, and reach out to him and and get him this, so we not only can we just do a video about bits, but then you'll be able to use that bit for this for this project. Yeah. So that that'd be good to I like, I just um I just put up a video yesterday that's doing really well. I can't believe I just checked again that it's getting a lot of external views. I don't know how that happens, but I use two bits from bits and bits. And then I think with my art channel, those videos come out Sunday morning.
00:22:22
Jeffrey Krug
I think I'm going to include over time some very rudimentary woodworking type lessons, like the very basics of a router. So like, you know, when you go to like change your router bit, it's usually you have to like loosen it twice. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like a lot of people don't know that. And they're like, why won't the bit come out? Yeah, why won't the bit come out? So little things like that. And, uh, uh,
00:22:48
Jeffrey Krug
that would be another place where I would do, you know, here's three router bits to get started. Something like that. I had an idea for a video today actually watching your video. Excuse me. Where you you burned an inch. Yeah, like the I the concept I can't think of any more of top my head and I always have these ideas where I have one. It's like we should have five I only have one but like ah like improvements or like ah on like tips, you know, like burning an inch is a tip. But like my improvement for that is burn 10 inches. Okay. Because then you don't screw yourself up by. True. Using the wrong dimension. You know, so if you you did one eight and a quarter and you burned an inch, so it was nine and a quarter. But if you do 10, it's just 18 and a quarter. So it's the same digit. It's you're less likely to make a mistake. But I don't know if there's any other
00:23:39
Jeffrey Krug
Anything's like that, you know, you have like this tip that everybody knows but here's like this little tweak that makes it better Yeah, that's like the video idea. But now we just got a call that's a good 30-second video No,
00:23:52
Jeffrey Krug
yeah but that's good um Yes, write that down I Have other news I just got from my wife my million now subscriber plaque just came in the mail. Oh nice. Yeah, so that uh That's I don't know, it's kind of a cool thing. I remember when I started YouTube, i I would like be waiting to pick my kids up from school or something like that and get a ah new subscriber and be like, holy cow, I got 11 subscribers today. It's kind of a high. Yeah, like Saturday morning, I spent a lot of time checking.
00:24:30
Jeffrey Krug
It's fun. Yeah, it's fun to do that. Well, that's a nice thing about looking at the analytics. I mean, when when they're good, it's good because it's like a little bit of a, you know, it's a little bit of a high. What do they call that a dope? Yeah.
00:24:44
Jeffrey Krug
And then when it's bad, it's like, oh, what the hell? Well, that's why you see a lot of people getting out of YouTube and complaining about YouTube. If you if that's sort of like your only thing, it I'm sure it could get really depressing. Yeah. And then people are like, I'm what do they call it?
00:25:01
Jeffrey Krug
black uh shadow band blah blah blah yeah yeah which is not true i mean you just i like i don't know i just think that um for whatever reason some videos do well and some some don't i can never tell why Listen, if you're putting out good content that people are going to watch, you don't think Google, Instagram, and you know Google and Meta are going to feed it to people because that's how they make money. yeah If it was good, they'd be feeding to people. So if you're not getting the reach that you think you should, you're not shadow banned. You're just not putting
00:25:32
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, it's funny because you can, you can be like, okay, the content that I'm making isn't good enough. It's not getting enough views. But then you have to say, well, at the end of the day, you kind of got to do what you do. You know, like, so for me, I've decided that, yes, I'd love to get hundreds of thousands of views.
00:25:55
Jeffrey Krug
But ultimately, I want to kind of help somebody make one of these pieces of furniture that I like. That's kind of, you know, that's what I feel good about. I feel like, okay, that's what I believe in. So if that's what I believe. And that's kind of what I have to do. I can't be like, Okay, I need to make this thing that I don't like, like, I just I couldn't do it. I can't bullshit it, you know, and it's Um, and I don't, and I think the guys who are getting all these views, making things that I don't necessarily like aren't bullshitting. I think that they're really good at that. They're really good at making things that are, um, they're not, I'm not saying they're, I think that they believe in what they're doing. Like they, they believe that it's aesthetically good and they've got a great way of editing it all together. Um, so I don't think that,
00:26:45
Jeffrey Krug
i Actually think they're very good video creators. It's just not What I could be comfortable doing. Yeah, and I think there's a space for both, you know Well, that's like the art videos. Those are the things I like doing the most because there's barely any editing I'm just talking to people and the the the they're like they're in the studio and those those views have pretty good retention. And they tend to be people who are really into it, you know, like, but like, thank God, you're doing your art videos again, because, you know, I've seen all I can do with woodworking. And I want to know how to make a painting or I want to know, like, this little technical question to make the painting actually work. Because I always say like the bit the my paintings are generally built more, as much as painted, there's, but you know, built. So that's, that's a fun thing.
00:27:36
Jeffrey Krug
but I don't see those videos blowing up. You never know. um So yeah, so next week we'll be doing a video for quick screws.
Feedback and Personal Reflections
00:27:45
Jeffrey Krug
Really excited about that. Yeah. And it's great to have them on board and it's great to have their energy because they're real they're really excited to be working with us. So that's it's always fun when you work with somebody and they give you good feedback. Yeah. You know, it's it's one thing to get paid. It's another thing to get paid and get told you did a great job.
00:28:05
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, because, yeah, I mean, we're dealing with a different sponsor where it's not quite the same. ah There's not not much reciprocity in the ah communication then and pleasantries. but But it's like anything. like you When you deliver a kitchen, right you're going to get paid. like Hopefully, you get paid and everything.
00:28:25
Jeffrey Krug
But when the homeowner comes out and says, hey, this is really great, whatever. That's just like icing on the cake. Oh, yeah. You remember the real reward. It really is. And like, I mean, that's why if I ever have anybody do any kind of work for me, I always try to.
00:28:41
Jeffrey Krug
Uh, let them know how appreciative I am because I know how much that means to me, you know, like, Oh, that's really nice. Thank you. You put in the extra effort. You know, uh, I really appreciate like, like Lou, the painter, that guy did such an awesome job. I just always let him know. I wish he was still paying. Yeah, he got out of it.
00:28:58
Jeffrey Krug
He did such a great job. Yeah, he's great. I mean, you can tell when somebody wraps up, you know, the way they wrap up a job kind of says a lot. You know, I remember my brother, my brother, ah his house got taken out in Hurricane Sandy and he ended up hiring somebody. And
00:29:20
Jeffrey Krug
but It was taken forever. And one day he said, um he he bought the house as a modular. it's like a You would never know it's a modular. You know how these newer modules are really nice. yeah But just like any modular, you have to have like a carpenter come in and like kind of do all this finish work and all this stuff. So my brother said, can you help me get the countertops in? ah you know Drill the holes for the faucets and everything and all that.
00:29:46
Jeffrey Krug
So, I'm sure I'll be down there. So, i I go and the whole place was like a the like coffee cups everywhere, sawdust everywhere, just pieces of wood, like a tornado went off. yeah And right away, I thought, wow, this is, you know, I didn't want to be like a downer. But as to my brother, I was I didn't want to like fill him with like stress. But in my mind, I was like, wow, this guy sucks. Yeah. And of course, he ended up like, eventually not coming to the job. I think he ended up having like some kind of a problem, you know, like some serious problems. Yeah. Yeah. and this Yeah. So
00:30:26
Jeffrey Krug
When you have somebody who like really you know keeps the job site neat, wraps up the place, that's a great sign. Yeah, I've talked about it before and I stole the the ah phrase from Matt Moore. and yeah I'm sure he stole it from somebody else. It's about perceived value. you know like If I come in and deliver the cabinets, like we're we're coming tomorrow to install the cabinets, but I'm delivering them today. And you just put them all over the place, all the skew stacked up all weird. The client sees that. It's like, huh. You stack them nice and neat. You put you know you put down a blanket. you put them it doesn't The finished product is exactly the same.
00:31:04
Jeffrey Krug
There's all that perceived value in how you came and stacked them neatly. They're going to think so much more of you just for doing it that way versus just coming and throwing the cabinets in and, you know, saying, OK, we'll see you tomorrow. Yeah, 100 percent, 100 percent.
00:31:22
Jeffrey Krug
Anything else going on? I was about to say, it sounds like the 3D prints done. I'm printing something for Walter. um I think it's got it's like a nine hour print. So it's it's probably got a couple more hours, but it was just your birthday. It's my birthday tomorrow. How old are you? I'll be 36. Wow. So I'm 21 years older than you. I just turned 37. 57. I watch a guy on YouTube called freaking reviews. And he's like this wacky kind of guy in Vegas. And he ah he just reviews like
00:31:56
Jeffrey Krug
A lot of like as seen on TV stuff and just, I don't know, I just get a kick out of the videos. Hunter really likes them so we watch them together, but he did one last night where he was, you're born in 1968. Same with him and he did like a box of candy and it was all like candy. If you grew up, if you were born in 1968 and you grew up, it was all candy from that time. It was pretty cool. Wow. Can you name any of the candy, Charlie Ranchers?
00:32:19
Jeffrey Krug
that wasn't in there, you know, candy buttons, candy cigarettes, candy cigarettes. I remember the sugar daddy's sugar babies, the wax lips. yeah um oh What else? ah Now and later's was in there.
00:32:36
Jeffrey Krug
um
00:32:39
Jeffrey Krug
I forget what else that's cool. I'd like to watch his channel. Yeah. It's just like a you know, <unk>s I watch a lot of these channels where I'm not really that interested in all the subject matter, but I just like the ah it's like the person. Yeah, and that's cool. I've been on an Everest a kick lately, just watching all these people die on Everest.
00:33:02
Jeffrey Krug
That sounds terrible. um All these mountaineers, I mean, one guy, he might have been 21 or 23, his goal was to snowboard down Everest. So he actually did it one year. I don't know if he did the whole thing. I think the face that he wanted to do was completely windblown of snow. So it was mostly like sheer rock. Oh, wow.
00:33:27
Jeffrey Krug
So he did like a different face, but it wasn't what he wanted to do or what. Yeah, because there's like a lot of different summits that you could. Yeah. It was a K2 is the is that the big one? Yeah. Well, that's a different mountain. Everest is K2 is a different mountain than Everest. Oh, is it? is it Yeah. Yeah. Everest is Everest and K2 is K2. Is it in the same region? Oh, my God. You got to listen to the Joe Frank K2 episode. It's so freaking funny. Maybe that's what made me think of it.
00:33:54
Jeffrey Krug
where he's like training by smoking cigarettes. Oh, it's so great. I usually, when Joe Frank is on, I space out, and I'm not really listening to everything that's happening. We might have to ah do a shared ah subscription so we can download that stuff. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that might be a ah good today's craftsman expense. Yeah. Because the K2 episode, like He's like, it's just not going to be challenging enough. So I put on a heavy um started eating all these sugary foods and smoking cigarettes. And we decided to take a marching band along with us. You know, it's just like it's totally whacked out. You know, if you know Joe Frank, you know how whacked out it is. I think there's some websites where you can actually like rip the video audio.
00:34:36
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, I know. I just I wonder how much it is. And I just ah I'm such a fan. No, no, for free. I know. But I'm like, I don't mind spending a lot. Oh, yeah. I think YouTube premium is 80 bucks a month. No, no. But I think Joe Frank has a website. Oh, oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's funny is um David Cross is a big actor and Joe Frank. did I tell you that. Yeah. Yeah. He's um he's funny. He's really funny. And in the episode, I think he plays um I think he plays God in one of the episodes. It's kind of this whole thing that intermingles between, um it was all going on during the joke the ah OJ Simpson trial. So there's a lot of episodes that revolve around the whole OJ thing. It's crazy, funny stuff. What's the one I just was listening to? the You know, the guy keeps coming in and he yells, he's like, I will take this transgression, not as a... I forget what he says, but, um, you know, this guy just keeps like interjecting into the, into the show. I don't remember, but, um, I just can't get over how great Joe Frank is. It's funny cause I follow this guy on Instagram, forget his name. Um,
00:35:49
Jeffrey Krug
I get who his name is, but anyway, I said to him, I'm just curious, are you a fan of Joe Frank? And he responded, I love him. So I was like, holy cow. Yeah, it definitely, I don't know anybody else who listens to it, but it definitely takes a certain kind of person.
00:36:04
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah. I think that if you're driving somewhere and you give it a chance, you might become that person, but you have to kind of, it's a, it's a loner thing for sure. You know, you can't listen to that at a party. No, no, you, you kind of go into like, you could almost listen to that in one of those isolation tanks that you were talking about the other day. Yeah. Maybe I'll do that on Saturday. Saturday I have a massage. I have done that where I went and got a massage and then went to the the float tank. That's, that's a good combo. Wow.
00:36:34
Jeffrey Krug
You're living large, man. it's i didn't I haven't done that in a long time. but Well, we're going to leave it at that, folks. ah Give Joe Frank a check ah ah try. Let us know what you think. ah Check out the video on Saturday, tomorrow, about cutting out these patterns on laser. You get a sneak peek at at this table we're going to build, and and maybe you'll be able to have it in your own house. Awesome. All right. Talk to you next week. See you, guys.
00:37:03
Jeffrey Krug
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00:37:36
Jeffrey Krug
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