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All right. Welcome back to the show. Good to be back after maker camp weekend. Yeah, I got my um element mixed up just in time. That was part of the swag bag. ah is that right What is that? Electrolyte drink mix. Wow. It's actually good. it's it's ah It's got a lot of salt. um So it's like a little bit salty. There's a chocolate one that was in there that you drink hot. That was really good. Really? Yeah. I didn't get anything. i Well, we did we only did the day passes. Yeah.
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I think there's only one time that we did the gold pass. That was the first year where we stayed at that hellhole of the um the Milton House or something. Welding House. yeah oh my god That's where Dean was. That place is like... ah The Bates Motel, right? The Bates Motel. It's scarier than the Bates Motel. ah Yeah, Corey was there. I think the first year or the second year. And he said that he found a spider so big in his room that he slept in his truck.
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I'm not surprised. I mean, Walter and I stayed in the, play like, I don't know how you can feel comfortable about not getting a lawsuit because the, you kind of enter the, the welding house from the back up this stairwell. That is just, it feels like it could fall off the building any second. And then there's, ah when we were there, there was somebody staying there that looked kind of different. Like, I don't know, like little odd. And like somebody odd. Well, yeah, I don't know. I feel like like maybe they were living there. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of weird. And then ah Chris Zep was in the one like kind of close to us in the the shower had just fell right off the wall. So it's just water coming out of the pipe. God. And it wasn't cheap.
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You know, so I don't know. i'm I'm not meaning to pick on like your place seems pretty nice. Yeah, it's it's totally passable. You know, they're they're like the I find the lack of maintenance like kind of funny, you know, it's like some of the things you see and you're like, I can't believe they don't just fix this. I would give that place a ah fresh coat of paint like your building. How hard would it be to just spray that red? Spray it again. Yeah, I think it's like ah I think they know, but they're like, why put any work into it? People are still, you know what I mean? It'd be one thing if they like didn't have guests and they were like, people were complaining, but I think that they're probably busy all the time and it's like, who cares? Yeah, your place was fine. Our place was, I felt like it was something different than it was described as. So it was described as, I think, either two queens or two twins.
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it was one king with a literal hole in the center. So I'm sharing this with my son, Walter. And there's like, you're trying to sleep on like the frame of the bed. Yeah, yeah, like a cat on a fence. And ah inevitably, you'd fall into this thing. Anyway, we stayed in an Airbnb the last two times and they're really nice. And this Airbnb was only, ah I would say it's less than three miles, not even you didn't even have to get on the main road.
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And we were home by 10, 10 30 each night anyway. I can't stay out late. I think Walter, no, Walter was pretty much ready to go when we left because the last time we were hanging out around the campfire with you. And I think it was like 10, 20. I was like, what do you think, Walter? He's like, yeah, I'm ready. I was up until like two o'clock. I don't know how you can do it. Me neither. And every night it's like, I think I'm going to go to bed. And then next thing you know,
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the con. And it's not even like I was drinking a lot um where, you know, when you drink, you can just stay up, sure you know, just lose time, but. you know, you would the conversation would just take a turn. And then next thing you know, it's like two hours later. I'm like, holy crap, I got to go to sleep. Well, that's that's really what it's all about. I mean, I don't I never go and make anything when I'm there. I just like to see everybody that hamburger that at Johnson. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. I came home. I was like, Laura, I got to make these. They're so good. Yeah. Those were good.
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So that's the fun part, you know, just talking with people that you don't see ah as often. I didn't drink that much. Walter had a few drinks, I think Friday, but he was fine. um I think Thursday is the night I drank the most. That's what you said. We showed up Friday and you're like, you were like, wow, I'm kind of hurt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was like me, Rob DeMarco, Dean from RT.
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um Keith, Lucas, Dre, tried to think who else was there. But I didn't go down to the pavilion at night at all. I noticed that because i I was hanging around the the campfire and playing that stump game.
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Yeah, I'm ah I'm not playing that game. I know. And I got hit with a nail. Oh, really? Pretty hard. Like right underneath the chin, like right, like at the base of my chest and my neck. Not hard. I had a sweatshirt on, so it didn't. But it made me think of what you were saying. Yeah, they should have safety. like Like you should have to wear safety glasses. And there was a bunch of little kids playing. Yeah. You know, so. ah And everybody's, you know, tuned up. Yeah. And like. But nothing happened. In fact,
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They ran out of nails. So nobody played Saturday, Saturday night. um But that's fun. I played that a bit hung out by the campfire. Definitely want to make a um Viking chair. Oh, you were talking about that. It's just like two pieces of wood, right? Yeah. So you basically have a mortise in one of them and a big long tenon. These were made out of two by twelves, it looked like. And the tenon just sticks out of the back. That's the leg. Yeah. And so you could kind of clean that up a little bit. Maybe add a headrest because that's the thing. Yeah. the you're You're sort of forced to kind of keep your head up a little. You can't like
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but your head back cause the otherwise should be like laying right But it's I sat in that I was talking to some this guy who was using the army really cool guy talking about lignin vitae and um I guess ah he was in Guantanamo Bay and they were Like, he was planting those things around, you know? Oh, yeah. Either you told me that or somebody else told me that. We were talking about that. Yeah, really cool guy. That's the thing. And I don't know if you ever met Chris's friend, Chris Zepp's friend, Macklin. I did meet those two dudes briefly. Macklin, I don't know the other guy's name. The other guy's name was Tom. Macklin was a tall guy, right? Yeah. He made fishing lures or something. Yeah, he made fishing lures. He gave me two fishing lures. That's cool. And so that was cool. I was just hanging out with him. And then Walter texted me. He said, hey, we're up at Jeff's. And then I walked up.
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That was Friday night. Yeah, that was, you know, um I like to socialize, but like. I'm I'm beat from working all the time, like it's just to just sit down, relax and just enjoy myself. But you definitely you had a good comfortable spot. Yeah. And I was hanging out with the people I wanted to hang out with anyway. So same same. So I I was hanging out with you guys um Friday. Mm hmm. And then did Matt Vis.
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So yeah, it comes and goes quick, but we always leave. Walter and I are pretty similar in this regard where um we we like our schedules. Walter may be even more than me.
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ah So we got there Friday around 2.30 and we left Sunday morning, had a really nice breakfast each morning. So that's nice about like a good Airbnb kitchen. I did just a, you know, it's a Jersey thing. Taylor ham, Taylor ham or port pork roll. I'm a Taylor ham guy. I'm a pork roll guy. Yeah. We had pork roll sandwiches Friday morning. Keith cooked. Yeah, they're good. So we did Taylor ham and eggs.
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And we always made sandwiches, too. And I did have, as far as eating at the the maker camp, I had pizza one one night. And that's pretty good. Yeah, they look pretty good. Yeah. And the hamburgers, I didn't get any this year from ah the main ah like food tent. Is that what you would call that, where the bar is? like Yeah, they call that like the Tiki bar at the pavilion. ah I didn't have any this year, but last year, the hamburgers were good there. Yeah.
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Yeah, Will was making Smashburgers on Friday night, I think. Those were for like demonstrators. We missed out on those last year. Who's Will? Will is Will Scheer, the guy that sort of... It's Will and the guy from Green Money Fab who like had the cooking, the barbecue. Oh, okay. Yeah. Green Money Fab is a guy who makes those smokers. He made that pizza oven.
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So they use a Jersey guy. Those things are not on Saturday or Sunday. They start Sunday morning. But you had making the barbecue. And what about Friday? Where do you make them on Friday? They have like, yeah, he's got like all kinds of stuff set up back there. Yeah, I kept wondering when when they got to turn these things on. So when you When they turn those things on, is that like do you buy a plate or something? How does that work? The barbecue? Yeah, it's no it's included in like the gold and silver. Okay. Yeah. So that was Sunday at like say five or six must be five because I left that's about six on on Sunday. It was raining.
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Yeah, it was just cold and rainy and I'm like, I'm going to like sit outside in this rain or like I'm going to sit in the room and then leave tomorrow. Yeah. What? So I left. I got home about nine thirty. Nice. Yeah. Wasn't bad traffic, right? No, it was bad. Oh, really? Yeah. Eighty seven. You left at six and you got home at nine thirty. Yeah. Took us about three hours. So you had half hours worth of traffic. Yeah. Yeah. Like ah right before you get on two eighty seven. Eighty seven was just like bumper to bumper for a half hour.
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so ah Rob DeMarco left at the same time as me. He said it took over four hours to get home. Oh my gosh That's the thing I like about it is that it's only three hours away Yeah, I mean I talked to a few people who are going to go to Workbench con and that's for me. That's just a big-time investment. Yeah, I mean if it was right around the corner and I would totally go. If it was an hour or two hours away, three hours, away ah I would go to that. I'd go if somebody was paying for it. That could happen. Maybe, maybe not this one because it's coming up again. Yeah. What February? Something like that. But maybe by the next one, I know I was talking to, um, I was talking to Daniel Dunlap from, um, what's the name of the podcast? Do you remember?
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I don't know. um Anyway, yeah he's a nice guy, and and they they got flown out to California to do something with Surf Prep. I was on his podcast. so Oh, I think it's another Woodshop podcast. OK. I think that's what it is. I don't know the names of any other podcasts other than this one. Yeah, it's funny. Yeah. ah What's the guy's name? Skyler and Heather? Is that his daughter's name?
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Who's that? From Surf Prep? Oh, I don't really know them that well. I met Skyler at New Doors okay for Spray Day with Nate. Cool dude. um they They do a lot of ah like, um you know, like influencer work, sponsorships and events and stuff like that. i They sent me a sander a couple of years ago, but it does two things. It didn't have the right fitting on it for a vacuum.
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And then for some reason, it keeps blowing my breaker. I don't know why. It might be my own thing. It might be like a GFI thing, but it seems to be that. I don't know. Walter loves those Sanders eyes, you know, me. Is it a three by four like the ones I have? No, regular orbital. No, I actually do have a three by four and I've got a five inch.
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I just don't use them that much. Maybe I'll try using them again. I like they had to set up their maker camp. I saw that. And um know they they were using the three by four sanders to sand like I don't know if they had other ones, but when I was there, it was just two, three by four sanders. And they're saying in like pieces of wood, like cookies with them. I'm like, that's sort of like the wrong standard for this application. Yeah, I don't know why they would do that. yeah I thought I saw a six. OK, maybe they did have more. I thought I saw it and just that vacuum set up looks nice. The vacuums are really nice. Yeah. So does that compete with Marka? Is that better than Marka or the vacuum? Vacuum sander. Vacuum sander. I'd say that they're on par with, you know, Festival of Marka. You need Indasa.
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ah three three m I've heard people about Marka. Yeah. you know I haven't seen much, I've used Merka, I've used Festool, I've used Surf Prep, I haven't used Indasa, but I feel that the sanders are all very similar. That makes sense. I mean, how much could you really ask out of the sander? You don't want it to vibrate a lot and you wanted to have you know you have to select your orbit properly, which I think a lot of people maybe do incorrectly. If you're doing finished sanding, you can't have a big orbit.
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um So yeah, I mean the criteria is not like, mostly it you just want it to feel good. Yeah. I think they all are good sanders, you know. I was looking at that that vacuum system. I thought that'd be kind of nice to have a dedicated sanded area sanding area yeah in the shop. They have a nice light too that you put on the end of your table and it casts that raking light so you could see everything. That light's really nice.
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I did buy a tool. Really? And Walter was shocked. Oh, yeah. I like never buy tools. I i bought ah a tool from Chris at Third Coast Craftsman. ah So he's got a new company. It seems like he partnered with somebody. I think it's the guy from he was saying in a different way. I thought it was Suizan. S-U-I-Z-A-N. Japanese dude. Yeah. It's a Japanese saw company. They were actually at Maker Camp last year. OK. And I'm pretty sure it's the same dude.
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a coffee table job going back maybe seven or eight years ago, ah dovetails, basically just dovetail boxes that sat on a little pedestal, solid walnut. And I needed a dovetail saw because I didn't, you know, the one that I had years and years ago, ah just was no longer performing. So I bought a Lee Nail Soon Western saw. So it's a push. Just just don't like it. yeah I love a pull saw.
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The lineal sink cuts fast, but I think it requires a lot more skill, you know? I i feel like the kerf is thinner on this Japanese. Oh, 100%. Everything about it was just so nice cutting it. And it's a finer cut. It's much smoother. Cut through like butter. And so my plan for 2025 is to build a majority of solid wood furniture and probably mostly cherry.
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for two big reasons. One, I love Chari. It's my favorite wood to work with. I think it looks great. it's um And it's incredibly inexpensive. yeah And one more one more reason, it seems like the majority of the projects that I sell on my website are Chari.
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and And that's kind of the way I'm going where it's like a ah smaller, um weekend woodworker type channel for for people who aren't professional woodworkers but want to build a piece of furniture. yeah And so the idea is to kind of scale it down a little bit, build, you know, small chested drawers, smaller things, but solid wood because i'm I've got one more veneer project ah One more commitment this year and I've done a lot of veneer projects. I'm kind of burnt out on them Yeah, so that happens. How's that? How's that one coming along? Have you so you you've talked about what it is, right? Yeah, so to these chairs and they're they're totally inspired by um and I'm saying inspired because I don't want to say that their um reproductions are ah because
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the the Judd Foundation is very litigious. And they are suing. I read that or watch that video. Oh, Kim Kardashian. Yeah, what happened with with that is Kim Kardashian gave a tour of her studio on YouTube.
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and pointed out her table and chairs by, this was her words, by Donald Judd. So they're not by Donald Judd. And it turns out that the Donald Judd Foundation sells tables and chairs for a lot of money. And they use that to help fund the Donald Judd Fund. right ah So these were reproductions. But since she said- But she didn't buy them from the Judd Foundation? No.
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some designer, yeah, some designer designed her space and probably hired somebody like you or I to build them. And so but these are like spitting images. Yeah. And um but she didn't say reproductions. She didn't say inspired by she said Donald Judd's so she did get sued. And of course, they figured out, you know,
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whatever it is, I'm sure they'll figure it out. What's like the charge on that though, you know what I mean? Like what damage did you do? They wanted her to take the video down or re-edit the video or whatever. So I did make some changes. For one thing, my chair is veneered. And so they have edge banding, solid wood edge banding. I think a big part of some of the Judd chairs is that they are made out of like Baltic birch plywood and the end grain is part of it.
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I changed the measurements a little bit. And I don't even know if the measurements that I used were um specific measurements or just something that I saw on some other guy who made them. yeah Yeah. And so I just want I've always wanted to make those chairs. So I made them with fumed eucalyptus. Looks good. I like it. It almost looks like walnut. I tell you, like when you put the finish on it, it's dark. It's so dark.
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ah We're like a wenge almost Yeah, it looks reminds me more wenge. Yeah, it's very very dark and so so GL veneer sent me that Fumed eucalyptus and they also sent me a quartered eucalyptus and The quartered is really nice too. So I am gonna make another that looks like Anna Gray to me the the regular To me, it reminded me of riffs on quartered, ah like figured riffs on white oak. That's what it kind of reminds me of.
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So I am going to make a like a game table and then I'll have those two chairs with the game table. And at least then it makes sense and with the twins. Yeah, I like that. That's the best part of that project. We'll have casting call here at the shop next week. Yeah, that would actually be ah that would be a fun ah photo shoot. Yeah, I think the casting would be better. Yeah, you're right. Well, I would think like ah You know, you could do that. My wife would not put up with that. But um you could do that if you had a more popular Instagram and channel and just you would your casting would be, ah ah what is it, um exercise influencers? Because that's kind of the ah look. The idea is the hard angles of the chair. Okay, I don't want to get into this anymore. We're just creating content for a real.
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Yeah. ah But I do like that. I mean, I've seen I've seen advertisements with that, you know, that juxtaposition of a piece of furniture and this the female form. Yeah. The female form is the inspiration for so many designs. You think about it like the Ferrari back in the day. Yeah. Maybe not as much now, but you go back into like uh, you know the 60s and 70s you look at some of the the european sports cars it's it's pretty neat how how that um how that's a definite inspiration and one other thing eventually waltz and i are going to make a chess set and i always i always think of a woman from hips like it's like hips so you can just do some very minimal shape
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for the for the male for the female figure, which would be the queen, which could could just be like, um I don't know, just like ah like a, I would think a golf tee almost for the head that went down into like a broad hip that went back down into a cylinder shape, but then would have to be broad again at the base.
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where the the male figure like an hourglass with a smaller top exactly yeah where and then this could all be done on the lathe. And then the male figure could be a basically just ah um almost like an upside down funnel. Yep. You know what I mean? which Which which is sort of like broad shoulders, the V shape, you know, so you can make it could definitely influence design.
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Yeah, yeah, I was so talking to Rob DeMarco asking him if he had ever made a chess set. It seems like a lot of work. The horse. Yeah. So you can do a lot with the lathe. Until you get to the horse, because if you think about the bishop. That's easy. It's just got a notch in the top. The castle's pretty simple. The pawns are really simple. And so. You could make it all.
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on a wood lathe, which is kind of neat, because you know, it's it's accessible. But if you make it on a metal lathe, and now you're making it in, perhaps stainless steel and brass, now you can make an outdoor chess set. Yeah, that has the weight that's not going to get blown around. So Walter and I've talked a little bit about that. And it's definitely doable. I don't know I don't know if it would make sense from a financial point of view unless, you know, because it it would require some work. Yeah, like you would need one of those CNC mills where you feed a rod in from the back and it would it would stub out at the right dimension, cut the thing, part it off and it falls into a bin and then the next one comes out, you know what I mean?
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Yeah, if you get to that point of, you know, mechanization, then it's then it's like a no brainer. It's like, OK, let's do it. Yeah. Especially if you make it in wood first and then it gets 3D scanned and then it's just like you don't have to write anything. Yeah. So who knows? I mean, Walter's looking at a machine. I don't know if he's ready to pull the trigger on it, but ah he's doing a lot with the machine that he has. And I think that we're going to.
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Maybe start putting the the mallets up for sale. Maybe this time next week. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's getting them photographed tonight. Nice. And that's really the inspiration. Is Jonathan doing that? No. Jonathan is not doing that. His friend Frank is doing that. I was just talking. So Jonathan is our our web guy. He's great. Yeah. So he just did some photography work for you. Yeah. He did a good job. You're going to have him do more?
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Well, I asked him if he would go out to the Hamptons, but it's a little too far. But I found somebody okay to do that. I got a lot of work in that house, so that'll be a good one. Did you find somebody? Somebody out east. Out east? yeah How'd you find them? ah I talked to somebody else from Long Island. Do you meet the guys from Royalsville? No. Long Island guys close to Rob and Corey, they actually did ah Rob's bathroom in his house. Oh, cool. But they do all kinds of stuff.
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I just happened to be talking to him on Instagram. Like, do you know any photographers that work, you know, like out east in the Hamptons? And yeah, he he gave me somebody and we connected. So. So is there like a package that they do? um They just, were you know, they're like, well, tell me like a little bit about, you know, what you need shot. And I'm like, well, I did two vanities. I did an Island Countertop. I did the mantle, the built ins on either side, the barn doors, the piece in the foyer.
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I'm like, I just want a couple shots of each for the website. And they're like, yeah, it'll be about 300 bucks. I'm like, OK. Great. Yeah, you need that. Because it's you can never get the shots the day you install. No. Nothing's finished. There was paper on the floor. you know And by the time you're installed, and especially when you're driving from the Hamptons, you're like, OK, I got to get out of here. Oh, yeah. And I'm not a photographer, so the shots that I take are not. You're using your phone. Yeah, they might be good enough. They might be good for Instagram, but for the website, I want some a little more.
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cool. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be great. It'd be great to ah get those shots because it's like, you know, just pictures worth 1000 words is old. Yeah, old thing.
00:26:41
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So we want to talk about that we just shot a video on ah the pressure pot. Yeah. Yeah. So Apollo sent the pressure pot probably it's been a while. It's been maybe six or eight weeks. um I had reached out to them. I think I might have mentioned this but I reached out to them.
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um About collaborating on something and I had said that you know, I've been looking at that for a while and I didn't pull the trigger because there just like wasn't a lot of information about it I even went back and looked this morning like ahead of shooting this video and there's like only a couple videos and they they show it in action, but they I don't know it just it didn't have what I was looking for like to where it would entice me to pull the trigger and And they were like, yeah, they're like, that's cool. So um they sent it out. And you know we've been so busy with other stuff and I hadn't been doing any finishing um that it took until now to really have the time and need to set it up and try it out. And so this morning, well, after the compressor was serviced, all this stuff, I didn't get around to it until about noon, but ah filled it up with primer and um sprayed a bunch of stuff. It's nice.
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It looks nice. Yeah. I like the fact that it just fits right on top of your turbine. Yeah. Like you didn't have to buy anything new. I was surprised that that they would have thought about adding the casters to the bottom. Yeah. Like that.
00:28:10
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so the So the turbine doesn't come with casters, but when you when you buy the when you buy the pressure pot, that comes because now it's it's looked at as something that's gonna get moved around more. Yeah, like you know they see it probably mostly as people who are ah like you know painting in a kitchen or painting trim, something like that. I can definitely see another video because I think we covered a lot.
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But now I would like to see, okay, we've finished a project. What's the cleanup like? Yeah. And I know I shot a video for, um, I forget the name of some, some company, some kind of a half ass, uh, spray system Wagner. but yeah Um, I mean, they have their place. If you're like, I sprayed my barn with it. Yeah. And, um,
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I was just matter of fact, this is how it is. This is what you have to do to clean it. And when step by step in that video just still gets a ton of views and a ton of comments. Now sometimes Yeah, because there's not a video about cleaning it either. And um I kind of like was like, man, I'd like to know how to clean this. Like I know how but I'd like to see somebody do it.
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You know, there's something to be said about that because like you go in there with that much more knowledge, you might discover something while you're cleaning it like, oh, that was a mistake. I'm not going to do that again. Yeah. yeah And then if you can relate that knowledge in a video, that's what makes a video valuable. Yeah. Like I want any information I don't have. You know, like I texted Dan from the United Finishes. I'm like, hey, have you ever sprayed the white undercoat through the Apollo pressure pot?
00:29:47
todays_craftsmen
And he's like, no, not I haven't sprayed that. He's like, why are you having problems? I'm like, no, I'm just curious. I'm like, sure ah just any information that you have, if you I'll take it if you have it. Yeah, well, it's going to save you that much time. Even if I don't use whatever advice you have, you know information is power. So I want as much information as I can get. It looks like it works really nice. Yeah. I mean, I was saying to Jeff that I used to spray with compressed air, a very similar situation where you have a pressure pot And, um, did you have like a five gallon? No, no, no, no, I did two and a half gallon.
00:30:24
todays_craftsmen
Is that what yours is two and a half gallon? No, that's two court. Yeah, no, mine was like a two court. Okay. Mine was a two court. And um it's nice not having to have that cup, not having the weight of the cup, yeah not having to deal with the cup, because I've hit pieces of furniture with the cup, you know, like you're spraying a top or something in the back of the cut, because my cup is underneath the underneath the system.
00:30:50
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And when you're spraying with a pressure pot, you're just managing the hose with your left hand and spraying with your right. Yeah, it works great. The cleanup is a little bit more though. Yeah, for sure. You know, I used to spray a lot of lacquer. I think lacquer is the easiest thing to clean up. Yeah, because just run some lacquer thin through it so thin, you know, yeah, I run. So what what I'll do, I still spray a decent amount of lacquer. I prefer that to to a lot of finishes.
00:31:21
todays_craftsmen
What I'll do is ah once I finish spraying the lacquer, then I spray the lacquer thinner. ahray I spray the kind the gun empty. Then I take a paper towel and I wipe out the the inside of the cup. And then I run lacquer thinner, maybe like a quarter cup of lacquer thinner.
00:31:40
todays_craftsmen
through the gun without the without the fan part. you know So I take the nozzle off the gun and ah just run that into a container that I've marked used lacquer thinner.
00:31:52
todays_craftsmen
and literally just keep reusing it and reusing it. And I have one gun that I only use lacquer in. And that's the key there. Because if you run paint through a gun, no matter how well you clean it, if you run lacquer through it on a clear finish, there's a little bit of paint somewhere. Yeah, that's going to dissolve from the lacquer and then get into your project.
00:32:18
todays_craftsmen
There. Yeah, so Apollo, they also make a two and a half gallon and a five gallon. So that's a stationary thing, then like it's on like a cart, but it's not going to fit on top of the. No, no, it's like a whole cart with wheels and it sits. The whole thing sits on there. So theoretically, you could mix up a whole five gallon pail. Yeah, that's a big operation. Yeah, that's a big commitment. Yeah.
00:32:42
todays_craftsmen
I'm not up for that. So something that I didn't mention in the video, which I should have, it was like the whole premise to me is like, this is like, um if you if you can't justify going to an air-isted air assisted airless, like, you know, investing the money five grand or more into a pump, this is like the next best thing, you know, which maybe what's it cost? The pressure pot? Yeah. um The setup.
00:33:07
todays_craftsmen
The turbine and the pressure pot? No. Just the pressure pot? Just the pressure pot and the the compressor to pressurize the pot. Yeah, that whole kit is like $750. Yeah, it's not bad at all. Yeah. So with the turbine, you're you're talking less than, say, three grand if you buy their top of the line turbine. Yeah, it's not bad. No. It's not bad at all. So what's what's the next project on the list?
00:33:31
todays_craftsmen
So we're working on those Toronto beds. Those will be done. they They're primed, being primed. That's what I was priming today. I have this reception desk here.
00:33:45
todays_craftsmen
Oops, sorry, that ah I just got to check on that was that that brow bar that um they reduced the scope by like 80%. I don't know what happened on that. It was supposed to be the whole build out. Now I'm just building the desk, wow which sucks, but it is what it is. um So it's just white melamine with some ah white oak slat. I'm actually going to use this. Is this your white oak here? Oh,
00:34:12
todays_craftsmen
So that's from like White River or something or another. They sent sent out that. So this is a product that you're going to use. Yeah, it comes like 12 by 96. Wow. Yeah. So it's like acoustical wall slats. I've used a product like that before from a different company. And is part of the reason for this ah to help with the sound? No, I think it's just um just the aesthetic that they wanted. So how's this going to get attached? There will be some sort of backer and then you just screw through the black part.
00:34:43
todays_craftsmen
with a black screw. Yeah. And that's it. Yep. Nice. Wow. I like that. Yeah. Yeah, we did a job in Hoboken. And we built like this real long and skinny media unit that floated and we had that behind it. But I think those were walnut maybe.
00:35:02
todays_craftsmen
So if you're gonna make a ah wider panel, is the ah felt like longer than this wood slat? Meaning you can... Like that the end there is made so that if you butt it up to the next one, it'll give you the right... Okay, because it looks a little longer. This looks like three-eighths or half-inch. This looks like five-eighths. Oh, yeah, I don't know. It might be because of the sample. Or maybe the ah the real thing has like a lap and where it laps over. Yeah. Because that's like half of a width, you know?
00:35:32
todays_craftsmen
White River. Yeah. Cool. What's after that? Then I got this island here.
00:35:43
todays_craftsmen
This is that a mudroom island. ah Jeff was saying that he has to build a 60 by 60 inch mudroom island and I'm thinking that's a pretty big mudroom.
00:35:55
todays_craftsmen
Yeah, so it's basically just three 20 inch cabinets on the face. And then there's 230 inch deep by 21 inch wide cabinets behind that. And then there's like a little bank cat that comes off the back. You putting drawers in? Yeah, I think there's gonna be roll outs in the in the 20 inch cabinet. So it'll be like a painted frame inset painted ah face frames with probably oak veneer doors. So that'll be cool.
00:36:23
todays_craftsmen
ah What are you gonna do about the doors? Are you gonna open your arm? No. So where are you gonna get the doors? They'll just be plywood. Wait, oak veneer. Oh, so you're just gonna edge band them? Yeah. So like this, this I had drawn as walnut. White oak. Yeah, it's nice. Yeah. What's the top? I don't know. That's up to them. I just threw it. Okay. It's just just a piece of marble I have and I and the cushions are on them too. That's a pretty massive mud room.
00:36:52
todays_craftsmen
Yeah, it must be huge. Yeah. Because you got to have at least 36 around. Yeah. It's like a whole room trying to envision that. Where's this going? It's another job in Rye, New York. Wow. Just a coincidence different designer. That's funny. Yeah, you don't do a lot here yet. Do you? No, I don't know what the deal is. You got to get into that. The market saturated by ah other people.
00:37:21
todays_craftsmen
That's only going to take one job going south and then the once somebody finds you, yeah it just seems like you know once one builder finds you then and you deliver, that's all it takes. Yeah. Yeah, it is what it is. No, no, it's good. It's good to have the work. yeah it's just It just would be nice because there's so much money.
00:37:43
todays_craftsmen
like over by the river. Oh, yeah. And and if you can get into that, then you're just, you know, you're just never not going to be busy. Yeah. And and plus the fact that it's close, and you don't have to travel. Yeah. So the ah the reception desk is going down to Spring Lake Heights. oh That's not too bad. No. um
00:38:08
todays_craftsmen
I guess that's all we talked about. Yeah, that and then the beds are going awry. This island's going awry. I got that kitchen coming up in Highlands. That's like at the tail end of design phase. So that'll be good. um What are some details on that? ah Basically just going to be I think like a wide shaker. um Door, new doors. So painted. Yep. Let's see that is.
00:38:40
todays_craftsmen
ah What do I have that under?
00:38:44
todays_craftsmen
Um, oh, here we go. Wide shaker doors, oak. Nevermind. I got to put in my new mosaic authorization code. What do you mean oak? Why? Why oak? Oak Island. Okay. Painted, painted ah perimeter. So what are you gonna do on the Oak Island? Red oak, white oak? White oak. And how are you gonna do that?
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um
00:39:12
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that will probably maybe will make everything. I don't know. You might have to make those doors. Yeah, maybe. Maybe you could use that ah jig from Dino. Yeah, that's a ways off. But yeah. That's another video coming down the way. Yeah, so Dino from ah I don't know how to say Dino's last name Coros.
00:39:31
todays_craftsmen
think so. K-O-U-R-O-U-S, something like that. ah Your guess is better than mine. Yeah, I'm not good with the Greek. Koros Tools, inventor of the back pad. So he's got his door clamping system. And he asked us if we want to check it out. So he sent it out.
00:39:48
todays_craftsmen
Yeah, so I was just looking at it with Jeff and I guess to even for us to even do it. ah Walter's got to make that what do you call that board again like a pegboard pegboard like an MFT kind of thing three quarter inch plywood or MDF. Yeah. but What is it three quarter inch holes in it? Yeah, they're probably 20 millimeter or something. I don't know what the exact he he can give us the exact spacing and everything.
00:40:11
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Yeah, I'll talk to Walter about that because we we can't do anything until that gets done. Yeah. um He's going to do that on the one finity that's in the shop. Walter was in the shop today because he made a he made a um fence stop.
00:40:30
todays_craftsmen
ah For Tom's one of Tom saws. Yeah, I think when I saw it I was like that's Tom's. Yeah, I knew immediately Yeah, yeah came out good. He had a he had a he had to add ah Like a little update to the design you can follow Walter I'll give Walter a plug. It's a new machine company He talked about it a little bit today on his Instagram. It's pretty cool Basically, I think they the original design had a um how to stop that would hit the fence. And I think Tom was worried that the metal stop that would you know would kind of lock onto the fence would damage the rail. So then Walter made, a printed out some kind of a plastic thing that goes on to the the threads of the metal stop. And then that would be like a buffer. And then you just make a couple of those and then they wear out.
00:41:24
todays_craftsmen
Like the screw in the back. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. So instead of the instead of the screw hitting the rail. Yeah. Yeah. Because like it's just like a set screw. yeah It'll be a bump. There'll be like a bumper that actually threads onto that. That's cool. Yeah. It's not like stuck on there with like epoxy or something. It actually threads on there. I think a reverse thread or something. It's kind of neat. Nice. I'm amazed at all the cool stuff. We'll probably do. Walter's the same for working with Tom.
00:41:51
todays_craftsmen
I don't get involved, but it sounds sounds maybe like it could be Tom's he's a he's all right Yeah, Walter says he likes everyone over in the shop there. It's just a coincidence that Walter's like the One door down. Yeah from the shop that you and Rob met in yeah, that's wild small world. Yeah Yeah, I guess I don't know if it's Walter's landlord, but if anybody ever parked in front of that like, the you know that um i don't know what you want to call it that section of shops he would like flip and like call town and but know that walter's Um rent went down a little bit because he only has one space now So they he definitely focuses on the parking spots So oh park because oh my god. yes Yeah, he only has two one parking space. Yeah, because walter so ah Walter started the business with another guy in the uh, and then they parted ways nicely they They're still friends and everything. It was just the one guy wasn't as into it. Yeah, and um And walter's like yeah, my my rent went down
00:42:54
todays_craftsmen
Like, I forget what it is. it's not It's a nominal amount. Yeah. But still, like who would he even thought? Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like take on an employee. And this is not like a ritzy kind of a place. Yeah. It's pretty rough. Yeah. they They almost remind me of like storage units. That's what they look like. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it looks like.
00:43:12
todays_craftsmen
you know, it's cool. yeah And he's met some good guys over there. Yeah, some really talent. Like, that's the funny thing. There's like, all these talented people in these little pockets that you would never know about. Yep. Like, there's a ah powder coating guy that's like right over by the right over by the Wawa that I've, I've never known. And oh, yeah, right. ah Yeah. um Between Wawa and here. Yeah, like right past Earl.
00:43:39
todays_craftsmen
I'm not exactly sure. yeah Walter said it's really reasonable. You know where CNC like air conditioning is? No. What about Mariners, Mark? No. If you're going back home. um I'm looking at the yellow line.
00:43:55
todays_craftsmen
I notice very little. it's a you'll I'll look for it. Yeah. oh look You'll see the CNC. It's like HVAC place. You'll see all their trucks and stuff outside. Oh, yeah. It's right past that. OK. I think it says something about like motorcycles or something on the outside.
00:44:08
todays_craftsmen
Yeah, that's cool. I called him once to do some powder coating, but his oven is too small for when we did that big cabinet. So we brought it to GSD and I've had them do a bunch of powder coating. It's a um it's a pretty cool thing. and like once like when When Walter showed me the parts, he got my mind thinking like, oh, I should really design some things that include metal and powder coating.
00:44:33
todays_craftsmen
And there's a lot of colors of powder coating. We did like candy green with sparkles and all kinds of stuff. I guess it's super durable. Yeah. Until it gets hit with broken glass. Well, yeah, as long as it's done, right? Yeah, it's pretty. It's all about like the cleaning and everything, I guess.
00:44:51
todays_craftsmen
It's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. So it's, it's neat to know about some of these sources, because it definitely opens up your mind to design if you and it's something that, you know, maybe I'll think about in the future. Yeah, combining some metal projects and some powder coating. And I don't know, it'd be a I think the I think the new year will be will be pretty fun to get into.
00:45:17
todays_craftsmen
Yeah, Walter's working on ah interpreting a design that I 3D printed into aluminum. Well, he's going to get mad because I was supposed to bring it with me today, um but I totally forgot. And um you'll be back. Yeah, I'll be back. ah But it's cool. and It has got like six of them sitting right there. It has the today's craftsman logo on it. Yeah.
00:45:39
todays_craftsmen
I know that he sent you a picture. So ah yeah, it's really cool. So. I mean, and that's the thing where you can get John involved and we can really start to ah get our website going. So what I'm doing with John right now is I am turning a lot of my plans into bundles. So I was I was on ah Brad Rodriguez's website. ah Fix this, build that. And he has it just, you know, like plans in certain bundles.
00:46:08
todays_craftsmen
And I just thought that that was a good idea because I've made pieces of furniture that are sort of a set. And I thought this would be good to offer a discount. So I'm working on those. I'm creating those in Canva, which I love Canva. That's like fun to work with. oh yeah So I'm making these little bundles and it's really easy to do. And then John will create the the page bundles and are a separate category. and And then I'll be able to sell those at a discount. And I'm also sort of getting ready for
00:46:41
todays_craftsmen
the whole Black Friday push. So this year, I'm looking to promote a lot more during the Black Friday through Cyber Monday. Funny, ah I think it was a maybe last July when we started Today's Craftsman. I was working with this guy, Jeff, who I'd worked with forever, but it was always difficult. Like, if you texted Jeff,
00:47:07
todays_craftsmen
he might get back to you in 18 hours. So it was hard to like really communicate. Yeah, because it takes days to get one little thing accomplished. And then sometimes you want it you need to have a phone conversation. And so we were building, I was talking to him about building the today's Craftsman site. We were ready to get doing that. And then I was making all these changes on my site. And then out of nowhere, he's like, ah you know, I'm just not going to do this anymore.
00:47:35
todays_craftsmen
And it was like, it literally was like two weeks before ah Black Friday. And I was like, okay. And sometimes you got to be forced to get out of things. yeah And so so I'm happy that that's over. And then ah I got in touch with John through Walter because ah I think um think John bought a piece of camera equipment from Walter. yeah And then he built Walter's website. And then he's taken over my website. And it's just a great experience. And I know that you've worked with him now a bit. Yeah, he's good. And eventually, I think we bring the today's craftsman over there. Yeah. Because I think we can sell shirts. We can sell all kinds of push sticks. Yeah. We can get into the whole whole thing. So that would be good to to be set up to do that. Yeah.
00:48:23
todays_craftsmen
So I don't have anything else to talk about unless you got something. ah No, I don't think so. I mean, I would say ah hopefully we can make a big announcement next week about our first real sponsorship deal. I was fine talking about that now, but... Yeah, I guess yeah we can.
00:48:41
todays_craftsmen
So um we're going to this this Saturday's video will include a spot for Enduro. So we just shot that and Jeff just recorded the voiceover. And so that'll be a probably like somewhere between 25 and 35 seconds spot that will appear sometime within the first minute to two minutes of the video. Yep.
00:49:06
todays_craftsmen
So ah we're starting off with them. The great thing about that is Jeff uses the product all the time. So it's um it's just very natural. Yeah, it's great. You know, it's not, you know, all a lot of these YouTube channels, I don't see it as much in like woodworking, but like ah the other channels I watch Nord VPN or Factor meal prep. Hello, fresh. And, you know, they're just these um Sponsors that are totally unrelated to what the subject matter of the video is doesn't have to be directly You know, we might shoot a video about building a table and then enduro is the sponsor, but they're still parallel, you know Well, I always I always make that connection when you watched this old house You you would see an ad for generally minwax. Yeah so support for this episode of this old house is brought to you by minwax and then you see the stain going on the wood yep, and so
00:50:02
todays_craftsmen
whenever Whenever Jeff and I are talking to different companies about potential sponsor, I always bring that up because here it is almost 30 years later, and I still remember the sponsor right of this old house. But if it was... HelloFresh. Yeah, it's kind of forgettable.
00:50:19
todays_craftsmen
Absolutely. So that the thing is, I mean, Jeff is spraying Enduro and using and eventually I plan to use more general finishes products. They have a lot of stuff like if you enduro is one line and then they have the all the general finishes line and I mean, they make everything from milk paint, all the clear finishes, stains, everything. Yeah, so it's it's kind of a no brainer. I have one quick um sort of sponsor.
00:50:47
todays_craftsmen
bit of news, I guess. So I'm, I'm doing this video, ah these veneer projects. They're sponsored by geo veneer, but I'm finishing this most recent product project with Water locks and so ah I I I kind of just I think I shared something on Instagram. I Really believe in the bollocks chin. I know you don't really have a call for it Yeah, because you don't use a a lot of oil-based finishes. Yeah, but if you've ever used an oil-based finish like a
00:51:19
todays_craftsmen
Oil-based polyurethane. Zinzer oil-based primer. That one skins over like in a couple of days. Anyway, when Steven, who is the inventor of the oxygen, first reached out to me a couple of years ago, I was like, I don't really know if I need this. And and then after talking to him,
00:51:40
todays_craftsmen
And then he sent me some samples That's why this stuff's really great. So it goes a long way to like. Yeah each can I mean you because we we definitely used it um You gave us some cans and I think we might have swapped which was Steven right Steven Steve ah I sent him a t-shirt or something. He sent me a bunch of cans of oxygen. Yeah, super super nice guy. He's actually a Jeez, I think he's a rocket scientist. I was going to say, yeah I thought he did some aviation. Yeah, really, really smart dude. So anyway, um because I'm using water locks, I'm using bell oxygen. And I sprayed a little bit in the can like I always do, but I probably put it in an Instagram story. And then Steven sent me a nice message. ah So I thought, Oh, wait, maybe Steven wants to be a sponsor. of this So then I wrote up a short proposal.
00:52:33
todays_craftsmen
And he's like, yeah, that's great. I'm in. So it's it's funny how you can make things work as you're just sort of working along. You think, oh, OK, that's that's a good fit. Yeah. And I mean, and that's just that's just the same kind of information I would pass along to anybody who is going to use a product like this is what I do. This is my method. And this is and when I'm done with it, then I use this oxygen for this reason. And so anyway, that's kind of cool to to be able to you know but two sponsors into one project yeah
00:53:05
todays_craftsmen
which I'm sure that we're going to have to do eventually because we're working with another sponsor and we can't just have. especially in the beginning, we kind of give everybody a ah pretty ah pretty good break on the price to kind of, it's kind of like a proof of concept. um But eventually, when we up our prices, you know, we won't be able to have, you know, three sponsors in one video, but we can always have two. Yeah, that's not a problem. Yeah, it could be like a um you know where the subject matter of the video, whatever, tape measures, and and stare at tape measures as a sponsor, but then there's also the whatever that hope that um underwriter sort of sponsor. Yeah, and the um and people stick with the videos. like ah When you look at our analytics, it's not like a ah drop-off. yeah you know It's kind of like an even run all the way through. so
00:54:02
todays_craftsmen
Anyway, that's the news and you'll see that that first plug on a Saturday morning. Yeah. So make sure to tune in a video on the pressure pot and you get to see the, the ad. I think it's, I think it's good. and Same. Same. I think it's a good video and I think the, uh, I think the ads good. Yeah. Oh yeah. I like it. Cool. All right. Well, thanks for listening as always and we'll talk to you next week. See you guys.
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