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Podcast Sponsorships Introduction
00:00:00
Jeffrey Krug
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00:00:28
Jeffrey Krug
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Jeffrey Krug
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Upcoming Meetup Announcement
00:01:01
Jeffrey Krug
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00:01:07
Jeffrey Krug
All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the show. What's going on? Not much. I guess before if if the podcast is anything like YouTube, people stop listening after about 10 minutes. So We were planning to meet up. Yeah, that's exciting. Yeah fun. So this will come out this Friday, which is like what the Anyway, the 28th Saturday is 28th one to five one to five Grin Brewing, Kingsburg, New Jersey 32 Church Street.
00:01:42
Jeffrey Krug
Well, I know that I'm coming. Walter's coming. you're You'll be there, of course. Keith RSVP'd from Blackthorn concept. Ed John's RSVP'd. Oh, cool. Cool. Yeah, there'll be people. And I mean, we'll just keep posting it. And I'm hoping...
00:01:58
Jeffrey Krug
Rob, um shit, now I forgot. Rob DeMarco will be there. Yeah, Rob DeMarco will be there. Corey will be there. um Matt Viz might try and make it. Bob Lorry. I don't know if you know Bob. Oh, that's your buddy, right? Yeah, you may have met him at a woodworking show. um He's a New Jersey guy. Okay. So, because he said, hey, when are we when are we going to meet and have a beer? And I said, you know, I'm going to talk to Jeff. Maybe we can plan a ah meetup. Yeah. So hopefully he'll be around.
00:02:26
Jeffrey Krug
I'd love to pack the place and, you know, that would be great because I called. I wanted to just, you know, make sure it's like, hey, we're you know, we're going to plan to like come by. I don't know if it's going to be five people or 50 people, but I just want to give you a heads up because, ah you know, you don't want to like show up to a place with 50 people. And then there's like one bartender and they're like destroyed. You know, yeah that's why i'm I'm hoping people who are coming will RSVP with that link.
00:02:52
Jeffrey Krug
um I'm going to tell John too, our web guy. yeah I'm going to tell ah Casey, the mushroom guy. yeahp ah Really, the idea is not just for woodworkers, it's like entrepreneurs. yeah anybody local aren Local, and doesn't even have to be local, but like entrepreneurs, it's I think it's a good way to meet people and kind of ah just chill out and have a beer. It's a great time because it's usually a pretty dead time of year yeah between Christmas and New Year or so. Yeah, anybody creative, you know, if you're doing something.
00:03:20
Jeffrey Krug
oh What about the candle dude? I texted him today. Good, yeah. I sent a couple of texts out. Brian from RT. OK, cool. ah ah Lou from the old shop, Rob Barone, obviously. I told him yesterday, I'm like, clear your calendar for the 28th. Yeah. ah What about Tom from ah
Meetup Logistics and RSVPs
00:03:38
Jeffrey Krug
Tom Shop? Tom. He listens to the podcast. Yeah, Tom, if you're listening. We'll see you. Yeah, you know where to find us. We invited him to the last one. All right. Well, hopefully he'll show up. Yeah.
00:03:49
Jeffrey Krug
Um, but yeah, they were, when I called, he was like, I would love it if you showed up with 50 people. I was like, yeah, that would be great. They can hold 150 plus they have outdoor. When I did a meetup at, uh, I forget where it was in Long Branch, but it was like white chapel. I went me and rich. Yeah. Yeah. You enrich one. Yeah. But it was, um, it was like pretty, pretty still in the depths of COVID.
00:04:13
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, it was outside. Yeah, it was like, you know, so I don't know that might have kept people away. Yeah, there I remember there were a couple chefs. This guy, Chef Collins, who I see around now, I think my tattoo artist might tattoo him. um And another guy.
00:04:28
Jeffrey Krug
And I remember talking to them trying to think of who else who else was there. Like your buddy Mike from the big Mike. Yeah. You know, really it just sort of anybody who's doing stuff and just wants to have a beer. Yeah, that's the beautiful thing about it. It's just so casual. You just show up, stay for 10 minutes, stay for two hours or three it's one to five. So four hours. And that's the other nice thing. It's over. And you you know, you go home. It's not like you're out late at night. Yeah. I mean, you can stay as late as you want. Just don't expect to see us there. Yeah, that's true.
Past Meetups and Woodworking Projects
00:04:58
Jeffrey Krug
That's true. Oh, yeah, it should be should be fun. I haven't been over there. I've heard great things.
00:05:04
Jeffrey Krug
They have an upstairs tap room, and they have a downstairs and an outside. Walter's been there. They did something there, I think, when he was with Timber. Uh-huh. And he said it's really nice. I'll make sure to invite Ezra and Anya. Yeah. um Well, if maybe Jackie will go. Yeah, she was saying she might be in Florida, but if she's not. OK. And ah Walter's buddy, um who he he worked with over there. Conrad? Conrad, yes. Conrad and his wife. But there's also another guy, Jesse.
00:05:32
Jeffrey Krug
Oh, yeah, I've heard about him. I haven't met him. Yeah. Yeah. Walter has a mad respect for Jesse. So this is just a really good, ah really good craftsman. I think he worked at Palero. Yeah. Yeah. That's where Richie used to work. Really? Rich work there? Yeah. Because I thought it was pretty high end. Yeah. That's very high end. And so it was rich pretty good? ah I don't know.
00:05:57
Jeffrey Krug
He worked with you. for How long did he work with you? About a year. Yeah, about a year. A little more. He might have just been kind of getting ready to retire too. Yeah, yeah. um he But apparently he was fired under mysterious circumstances over there, so that's always a little. Yeah. yet I don't know anything about it, but Walter walter says it's it's quite the place. They do a lot of like work for yachts and stuff. like They build chairs. I know they do these like crazy chairs for Didn't they do a lot of work for Brad Pitt or something like that? I think he collaborated on like a chair with them. Yeah. But the guys always had like these yacht shows and flying all around them. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and actually Rich are not Rich Gerama or Hayfla rep. Oh, Ed Cohen from Hayfla will be there. Oh, cool. Rich, I invited him. Our original Rich 1.0, our sales rep from Hayfla, he worked at Palero also. All right. Yeah. Nice.
Woodworking Project Updates
00:06:57
Jeffrey Krug
So what else are you working on? So ah finally, that reception desk is going in on Thursday. and they So I think we talked about this job. It was a build out for a brow bar brow bar. They knocked the scope of work down to like 10% of what it was supposed to be, or 5%. So instead of doing the whole build out, all we ended up doing was this desk. And ah in the desk area, there was white oak plywood cladding this entire wall.
00:07:25
Jeffrey Krug
so it's like um a little bit less than 12 feet wide and about 10 feet tall. And I gave him a price to do it and then he wanted to do it. The the GC was gonna do it. And um so the designer came by to pick up a sample of the slat wall that's over there that we used so that they could coordinate the finish. And she left and about an hour later, she's like, okay, they want you to do the plywood. Like, okay. so So the job got a little bigger.
00:07:54
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, so originally we were supposed to install tomorrow. But this was like Thursday. I'm like, I can't get the material till Friday. I'm like, you know, Friday afternoon, then where's the job?
00:08:07
Jeffrey Krug
um ah Oh, man, this is Spring Lake. Oh, it's not too bad. Yeah, that's always nice traveling south. Yeah, traveling north. I don't care if you're going 30 miles, you could get in the thick of it. Oh, yeah. Going south is just now. Can you take the parkway south? Yeah, I can drive on the Garden State. Oh, you can. Yeah, but not the New York Parkway. OK, I got you. I got you. Palisades Parkway. I can't drive. OK, that that because that spans New Jersey into New York. OK.
00:08:36
Jeffrey Krug
um And I don't know if there's any other roads and in Jersey that are non-commercial. There might be, I'm not sure. The only one I know of is the ah is the Parkway.
00:08:48
Jeffrey Krug
Like the Garden State Parkway? Yeah. Well, it's just no trucks over a certain weight. OK. But you can have commercial vehicles. OK. So north of 109, you have to be under 10,000 pounds or whatever it is. OK. It might be more than that. I don't know what the exact. It might be 15,000 pounds.
00:09:05
Jeffrey Krug
I only know that because ah we rented a truck to move Jack back from his apartment in Vermont. and we um I think we took Route 35 to 18 or something like that. ah It was a long time ago. Yeah, U-Haul truck is too heavy.
General Conversation and Techniques
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Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, yeah. I think it used to be that way though where commercial vehicles weren't allowed on the Garden State. I'm always surprised when I see a truck on the Garden State Parkway.
00:09:32
Jeffrey Krug
If you go north from 117 in the morning, 90% of the... Not 90, but probably a solid 60% of the vehicles are commercial. Wow. That's one of the nice things about... I've always liked about the parkways. You you know you get on the turnpike, it's like, you just got so many trucks. Oh, I love i drive in the trucks lane.
00:09:50
Jeffrey Krug
i do I actually do, too, on my way into the city, but on the way out, as soon as it separates and says cars only, I just go cars only. Or if I'm coming back from Newark Airport, I just take cars only because it's just like you immediately you can kind of relax a little bit. Yeah. I um i usually go whichever way Waze takes me because like you know but sometimes one side is jammed up and the other one's not. so um ah Do you travel for Christmas?
00:10:19
Jeffrey Krug
We're not going to this year. um We used to go up to my sister's, which is in Pompton Lakes, which is near Wayne. I always say that because everybody knows where Wayne is, but they don't always know where Pompton Lakes is. They have drones flying ah up there? Oh, what's going on with that? I don't know. but Isn't that kind of where they are? Kind of, but i heard there and I heard they're in Tom's River. They're seeing them now, too. Yeah, and I see people around here saying they saw them.
00:10:40
Jeffrey Krug
Do you know what we saw the other night? Which was really wild. Michael comes into the ah house and he goes, there's like 10 drones in a perfect line flying over the backyard. And I'm like, really? And me and Walter, we all go outside. We look up, and there they are. which And I'm like, what the hell is this? It wasn't Starlink, was it? It was. Oh, OK. And so so then we came in. what Like, Michael was like, wow, what the hell was that?
00:11:04
Jeffrey Krug
I said, uh, look it up, you know, just type, type in whatever we, I forget what we described it as, but it was, it was startling. Yeah. It was cool. I've seen it. I saw it at maker camp once. Really? Yeah. That's so ah can you track that? Like, do you know when it's going to go by or? Uh, yeah, I think there's probably like an app that you could. It's really wild. Yeah. I mean, it is, it's like nothing else I've ever seen in the sky. Yeah. It's like out of like a science fiction. It really is. I mean, they're just perfectly in the line. I think there's like hundreds of them now. Yeah.
00:11:34
Jeffrey Krug
It's pretty wild, that whole thing. I know that when, when we had the house up in Vermont, you couldn't get high speed internet. And it was like really no phone, cell, cell phone service. You had to like go to the corner of the driveway. 6,714 working satellites. So what do they just put them up all the time? That's how you get internet. I guess.
00:12:03
Jeffrey Krug
says they plan on doing nearly 12,000 possible later extension to 34,000. Seems like too many. Well, I don't know. I mean, when you're just thinking of just too much stuff in space, like you can hit it with a with another vehicle or something. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I guess there's laws that it's pretty wild to think like
00:12:28
Jeffrey Krug
Like that's relatively new. How long has Starlink been going up now? Like five years? Yeah, maybe 10.
00:12:37
Jeffrey Krug
But I think that's where, isn't that where the majority of Elon's money comes from? I'm not sure. Active since 2019, so five years. Yeah, okay. Paying customers since October 26, 2020. I think it's incredibly expensive.
00:12:54
Jeffrey Krug
I have heard that it is more expensive. And I don't think it's any faster than like regular, but you can get it in places where you can't get. Well, that's the big thing. Like you, you know, there's so many areas. There's so many remote areas, even in New York State. I mean, like, think about maker camp. Yeah, well, they have Starlink. Is that what they have there? Yeah, I was gonna say. Well, now now they have it. They got it this year. um Yeah, I mean, like, now you can go camping and you can like post on TikTok.
00:13:23
Jeffrey Krug
And that's that's the only reason why I'd want to go camping. I can't go camping if I can't post on TikTok. ah So um I was going to tell you, ah I know it. So we're redoing the the website on today's craftsman. John's working on that. We didn't get a picture of us. We should go do that. Oh, yeah. We didn't shoot the sizzle reel thing either. It's always hard to do that.
00:13:48
Jeffrey Krug
um So anyway, yeah we'll get that site up probably, I would say that's going to be up in like anywhere between one and three weeks. And I'm ah getting my site redone. So it's going to become Shopify sites. It's just going to go directly to Shopify. Yeah.
00:14:07
Jeffrey Krug
Oh, so it should be a lot faster. It's going to be a lot better for as a commerce site. Yeah. ah But I know one of the things that I often get our emails from people who have built the furniture from my designs. So I got this amazing letter yesterday from this guy, Tom, who's really never built anything. I mean, he was talking to me about all the tools. He wrote a letter that had to be like three or four pages long.
00:14:35
Jeffrey Krug
And so I guess he bought some white oak maybe three years ago and he's like, yeah, by by the time I finally got to this job, it was nice and dry. So he built the trestle table that that I put plans up for maybe a year or two ago. Instead of doing just a straight run, he did breadboard ends. Oh, cool. He didn't curve the bottom of the thing. He said that was just a little bit but beyond him. So he kept it straight and did a little angle.
00:15:00
Jeffrey Krug
But my whole point of this is I am going to add a page to the site that is I don't know. We're going to title it. Yeah, something like your projects. So because I was I went on the I went on Mark Spagnolia's website to look at his guild and a lot of it is I think he has the teacher standing next to the project that they're teaching.
00:15:26
Jeffrey Krug
And he may have other people who have built the projects. I must have saw that somewhere. ah But anyway, that's kind of nice thing you can go on to the site. ah Because I should have like cataloged those emails because people have sent me a ton of emails over the years of the furniture they built.
00:15:42
Jeffrey Krug
But I'll have to do a little looking for those. But I do have um Instagram like hashtags I can usually find. It's cool too, because then like people who want to build it, they can see more like that guy made some changes. Yeah. And they can see different iterations and how it might be, ah you know, because you have to change little details. All the time. A fit your skills, your tools and the like space. Yeah. The material.
00:16:10
Jeffrey Krug
Well, that got me thinking too, it's like, I have all these design plans, and they're all a specific size. I wouldn't be surprised if eventually you could just feed that into AI. And they could just expand it by, you know, make it make this top 10 inches longer. You would think that would be something that could get done. Yeah. I mean, I could ask Brian Benham. I mean, I'm sure that would cost the money. I'll have to maybe the next time I do design plans,
00:16:36
Jeffrey Krug
If you
Furniture Design and AI Integration
00:16:37
Jeffrey Krug
had it in like Fusion or even Sketchup, probably you could just like rescale the whole thing. Like I can take my Fusion drawing and make it like 110% the size and and it'll update all the...
00:16:48
Jeffrey Krug
So yeah, so so Brian does everything in fusion, I think. Okay. And so, well, let's just say an entrance table and if the if it's 16 inches deep and 48 inches long, I could say, Okay, well, can you change that to make it 56 inches long, but keep the depth the same? Oh, yeah. And it would probably Well, you know, if it has drawers in it has to refigure all that out. All right. Yeah, you can ah do parametric stuff. It's beyond me. I've looked into doing it. But for me what I do, it's not really like that big of a deal, but it's all formulas like Excel where it's like the top equals the legs plus five, you know, plus 10 inches, whatever you can set like these parameters where
00:17:32
Jeffrey Krug
The top is in the dimension. It's it's a it's not a fixed dimension. It's a number that's based on other things within the drawing. Okay. All right. well that Sounds a little complicated. Yeah.
00:17:45
Jeffrey Krug
I mean, and that has me thinking too, because ah I was looking at the website, Vermont Wood Studio, I think. I think I showed that to you. Because I think it'd be kind of fun for us to come up with maybe not a line of furniture to sell, but a line of furniture to have plans for.
00:18:05
Jeffrey Krug
I mean, I think you and I could probably knock out a piece of furniture pretty quickly. Yeah. um Like your table didn't take very long. No. It's a matter of like a chest of drawers would not take too long to build if. As long as you're buying the drawers.
00:18:20
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, but that's something like I could build the drawers, you know, in my shop, we could kind of split that up. So ah if you talk about a chested drawer, one of my, I think one of the nicest ways to build is just a dovetailed carcass with a floating back, because you have to make a floating back if it's a if it's solid wood, right? Yeah. Or you could do Yeah, you could do um Like ah shiplap back solid, you know, where your sides are on long and your top and bottom are short and it's just applied so that it can. Okay. And that would fit into a groove. It would be not removable. You could do it that way too in a groove. Yeah. Okay. Or you just it's planted on with slotted holes, you know. Okay.
00:19:05
Jeffrey Krug
I'm just thinking like easier ways to build things. Because there's really as far as solid wood is concerned. There's really only two ways. Well, through like there's three ways to make like a box. If it's solid wood, dovetail it together. You could miter it with dominoes. Yeah, you could but join it and screw it. But then you're screwing into Ed grain and grain. Mm hmm.
00:19:31
Jeffrey Krug
And ah all the all the grain has to be going in the same direction. So the piece can expand and contract together. Is there anything I'm missing? ah You could do a rabbit rabbit butt joint. We've done that before. So you did with the piece under the stairs. Yeah. And so you did a rabbit butt joint. And any fasteners, dominoes, you did do dominoes. Okay.
00:19:57
Jeffrey Krug
Uh, why did you, that's not really visible, is it? Because it's under the stairs. You can't see the top. No, but with a chest of George, you're probably gonna have an applied top. No, I like it. Not applied. Yeah. I just liked it. Like, yeah, I guess depends on the style. Yeah. I mean,
00:20:15
Jeffrey Krug
What I think looks good is just ah just a box made out of five quarter dovetailed together and just simple drawers. And then then it can either sit on a base or you can apply the legs to the side. I think furniture gets overthought and becomes too complicated. yeah For me, it's like cleaner the better, simpler the better.
00:20:36
Jeffrey Krug
um
00:20:39
Jeffrey Krug
Anyway, I could see coming up with coming up with a line of furniture, you and I doing that, but then one of the things to think about is the different sizes. Because that's, let's face it, I mean, not everybody's going to want the same exact size. And and so like in this yeah Vermont Wood Studio, they had like three different three different size options.
00:21:04
Jeffrey Krug
And, uh, and three different species species.
Personal Projects and Home Maintenance
00:21:08
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah. It's like maple, walnut and cherry. So something to think about. I built a ah media console. Oh, wait. Well, Walter Peters, uh, RSVP. I get an email and so many RSVP as well. Um, yeah, I built this media console last week, Thursday and, and, uh, Friday.
00:21:32
Jeffrey Krug
So I took the the cabinets, some of the cabinets that I had built for my kitchen, the original cherry. oh I saw you doing stuff with cherry and I was wondering what you were doing. and ah And the doors. That's nice. I cut the cabinets down from 31 to like 24. So I'm just using the door and because it there were drawers at the top. So I cut the drawer part off. So solid cherry doors, gray matched. I made a quick top out of plywood, made some end panels. That looks great. Yeah.
00:22:00
Jeffrey Krug
And did you make that that coffee table? Yeah, oh, yeah, that I made that a long time ago. So that's got the tongue oil on it. And it's also cherry. Yeah. Yeah, that tongue oil is pretty nice stuff. Yeah, you know, it gives a ah relatively matte finish. But on the the console, I did shellac Pollock.
00:22:23
Jeffrey Krug
on the, oh, so you sprayed it with shellac. Yep. And then you did poly on it. Yep. yeah That's a nice finish. One one coat of shellac thinned thinned was I doing ah eight ounces of shellac four ounces of denatured alcohol.
00:22:40
Jeffrey Krug
And you're using that sealer, which is in that kind of pink can. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The yeah Zinser sanding sand sealer. Yeah, it's alcohol-based sealer. Yeah. It's de-waxed. Yeah. That, and then two coats of Enduro. I really like spray and shellac. I mean, you can't go wrong. It's so simple. Yeah. I have i have some issue with runs, because it's so thin. yeah I think you may have sprayed it a little heavy. Yeah.
00:23:09
Jeffrey Krug
ah Were you spraying flat? Was it? Yeah, but you got to spray the edges, you know, yeah so that's where I got some hangs. Yeah, you probably just hit it a little bit heavy there because it drives quick. If you only gave it one thing and then waited like two minutes, it would have set up. Yeah. And like so the panels had already been finished with vesting. But you know, you can put shellac on top of anything. You can put anything on top of shellac. You can put shellac on top of vesting. You can put shellac on top of anything. Really? Yeah.
00:23:36
Jeffrey Krug
ah shellac is like the most universal finish. All right. yeah I've known you can put it on a lot. Yeah. And I know you can put just about anything on top of shellac. But I didn't know you could put shellac on wax. And I'm thinking vesting is wax. ah Well, they call it a hard wax oil. I don't know why they call it a hard wax. I don't know what the wax part is. But yeah.
00:23:59
Jeffrey Krug
ah You know, it's like if it's a job for you, I would do it. I'd be a little leery if it was a ah yeah job. Yeah, I wouldn't be taking half finished stuff. And that came out great, though. Thanks. I must have it must be really nice to like just transform your living room. Oh, yeah. So quickly.
00:24:16
Jeffrey Krug
because we had this like janky what was a coffee table like a two tier open coffee table thing that we just stuck under the TV and it was full of like all my son's art stuff markers and pencils and so now it's all away. Was the family pretty excited? Yeah. That's nice. So I ah knocked it out Thursday and Friday.
00:24:38
Jeffrey Krug
And then Saturday, I came over here at like five forty five in the morning, packed it in the van, ran home, installed it and and and hopped in the shower. I was out the door by like nine fifteen. I had a massage. OK, so I was like jamming, you know. Now you didn't carry that in the house by yourself. ah My wife helped me, but it was light with no doors or anything. Pretty soon, Hunter will be able to start helping you with stuff. Yeah. Not pretty wild. Yeah. So he's six. Yep.
00:25:07
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, by the time he's like eight, he's going to be able to like take an end. Yeah. And carry stuff. It's pretty wild. Does he play any sports? I play soccer. No baseball at all.
00:25:18
Jeffrey Krug
No, I don't know if they really have it yet. like yeah mean I guess they do. I really liked throwing a hard ball with the boys because that's like something you can do. It's funny because you do it with them where you're kind of holding back and then they get older and you're like, holy cow, they're really hurt eat yeah it's pretty wild. When I was ah like, say 22 or something, when I first moved up here, we lived in Highlands. We go out in the street, me and my roommates with a football or baseballs and throw, you know,
00:25:47
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, I like throwing a baseball much more than a football football. I feel like I throw out my shoulder. Yeah. I feel like the elbow with, with, with a baseball, you start throwing those like submariners, you know, it's, it's just a satisfying feeling catching a hard ball. Oh yeah. And then my daughter was into it for a while and we were playing until she got hit in the nose, well just like a little bounce hit her right in the bridge of the nose. And then she was like, okay, I'm done with that. Yeah. It wasn't even that bad, but it was enough to, uh, to turn her off of it. Yeah. I was on the, um, subject of shellac. That's what I finished all the handles with.
00:26:23
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, I was gonna say I got my mail today, number one I got. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's cool. and That was a fun project. And we're probably gonna do more. We're just going to, I think Walter calls it like a ah drop or something. Drop, yeah. um Because we had a few people ask, but we're not making them right now. We might do it in like three or four months or something like that. You guys make any money?
00:26:44
Jeffrey Krug
ah We made a little money. Yeah, yeah that's cool. Yeah, and it was it was fun. We learned some stuff and you can make money on the first one. Yeah, we made a little money. And the neat thing is, well, at the same rate, I'm not paying any rent for my barn. Yeah, that's true. And um I didn't mind going out on a Saturday and Sunday morning and and turning mallets.
00:27:03
Jeffrey Krug
actually turning them out, probably be one of the more time consuming things or things that are were more like work was threading, tapping and threading for the ah the steel ah rod. Yeah, I watched your video on how you had to do it. It's kind of Yeah, you know, each one of them is a little bit of work.
00:27:21
Jeffrey Krug
ah But once you get to turning, that's just kind of relaxing. You just kind of turn one. Before you know it, you're you're you know you do the turnings real quick, then you're sanding. And that could easily be automated. But once they come out of the lathe, then the end gets cut off, and then they have to get ah finished again, and then I i ah ah hand rub the finish with a product called Wooloo, which is basically steel wool and soap. And that just gives it a nice feel because shellac will kind of give you a, you know, it can give you like a little bit of a raised feel, yeah you know, if you get a little bit of that. But yeah, we we got them all done. That's what we did Thursday and bought them all over to the post office Friday morning.
00:28:03
Jeffrey Krug
I was telling Walter it went from Leonardo to Jersey City. That's crazy to Trenton to Keensburg. That's crazy. Like that post office. It was coming here not to my house but still it's for less than five miles. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. We went to the the post office right over in Leonardo there. Yeah. Right by ah Jersey Shore. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great coffee spot. Do you go there and get coffee?
00:28:30
Jeffrey Krug
I haven't been in a while, but I used to buy, yeah, you would buy coffee there. And I went to a coffee shop that got their coffee from there. I guess Walter was saying that ah the business that business does like most of their business online. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Like they have the beans there like green and they roast them there. Wow. It's super like boho kind of place. um Maybe I'll check that out. Yeah. I'll have to ah change up my coffee game a little bit.
00:28:55
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, like Fair Mountain in Atlantic Highlands is really good, but that's like a little more feels more upscale. Yeah, Jersey Shore feels like this is like a punk rock like a place. Yeah, I mean, there's nothing there's nothing um like highbrow about it. Yeah, i'm like I'm looking at it and thinking it needs a facelift. I think my wife cuts the hair of the woman that owns it.
00:29:19
Jeffrey Krug
So I guess they're doing really well. Yeah, you wouldn't know that like I look at him like what's going on with that place? I mean, it's terrible. Yeah, it has like because he has got the murals and everything and it just a terrible color scheme. Yeah, that blue and it doesn't say coffee to me. It says like. um I don't know, Surf Shop or maybe, a yeah, it doesn't, I would not know that that's a coffee place unless I really like sort of looked. Yeah. I don't think they, I think like you said, like their bread and butter isn't people coming in to buy a cup of coffee. It's selling coffee to coffee shops and probably online. Yeah. That was good for them. Yeah. I'll definitely check that out. Cause that's the post office I go to. Oh really? I don't go to the one in Atlantic Highlands.
00:30:05
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, where is that? By the municipal building? It's right off of... Oh, behind the... Yeah. yeah That building that it's right behind, that's the building like we almost bought that years and years ago. Oh, really? Right before 9-11. I think I talked about this. Where the Thai restaurant is? Yeah, we were gonna buy that building. Oh, really? That's a great Thai restaurant. Yeah, I've been there once or twice. I think it's pretty good. who Yes, I am, yeah. um The salon is a couple doors down. Yeah.
00:30:31
Jeffrey Krug
that That building when we looked at it was 340 with two apartments, two big apartments above it. Probably 3.4 now. I know. total I could kick myself. What happened was we looked at it on we looked at it on a Friday and I was going to buy it with my father.
00:30:49
Jeffrey Krug
and I guess ah we were scheduled to look out at it the like the middle of next week. And 9 11 happened on Tuesday. Oh, wow and everybody got cold feet. But I was just like, wow. And then, which was sort of odd.
00:31:07
Jeffrey Krug
Within like six months to a year from 9-11, real estate just went insane. Do you remember that? Or you were young. Yeah. Is that like before the bubble? Is that when the bubble started? So that was 2001.
00:31:23
Jeffrey Krug
and um And then that's when it started to blow up, like 2001, 2002.
00:31:32
Jeffrey Krug
and um And then around 2005, everything was insane. And then it started to cool off, I think, in the middle of 2006. And then it blew up, 2008. I mean, it was crazy, the 2008. You could see it coming.
00:31:50
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, all those, what'd they call them? You know, they were given mortgages to like- No doc loans. Yeah, to anybody. No document, yeah. Yeah, so it's like, I don't know, did you see the big short? No, I've heard about it though. Yeah, it basically tells the whole story. Yeah. Then it would have been great to buy real estate after that, you know. So did you get your reassessment? Your 2025 assessment?
00:32:17
Jeffrey Krug
I've been reassessed, but i don't where'd you see it? It came in the mail, a little postcard. Huh. Yeah. Our house is worth almost double what we paid for it. Good for you. Yeah. Doesn't that feel great? Yeah. I don't know what the taxes are going to be, but... Well, the the um the only thing is, it's like, okay, I feel like that'd be great to sell my house, but then where could you move? Yeah, that's a problem. I mean, i'm I don't want or plan to move, but yeah.
00:32:45
Jeffrey Krug
The only reason, like nobody in my family wants to ah to move, and my wife doesn't want to move, but the house is a decent amount of upkeep. yeah And so today, because I was coming over here at 1.30, Walter needed to use the shop this morning. He didn't have to, like if I said, oh, I'm busy. But he's like, hey, do you mind if I use the shop today? I had so much yard work that I'd been putting off, and today's pretty warm. And I knew that. ah it was going to start raining around one o'clock. So I said, I'm just going to do yard work, just sort of just get a lot of stuff done. But I was probably out there for four hours today. And I don't want to pay somebody to do that. It's a fortune. It's a fortune to have somebody do leaf clean up 500 bucks, probably. Yeah. And that's just one time, you know, then they have to come the following week. So that's the only thing about the house it is. um
00:33:41
Jeffrey Krug
It's always there's always something to do. There's always work to do on it. Have you ever cleaned the the filter in your dishwasher? I have a new dishwasher. But yeah, I just cleaned it. Okay, yeah. But that's something that yeah, well, your dishwasher will get destroyed. Yeah, you have to clean your teeth I mean, there's just always I'm just saying there's always there's always things to do when you own a house, especially when your house is older. Do you guys like rinse the plates before you put them in the dishwasher? You're talking about, you know,
00:34:10
Jeffrey Krug
We've got, you know, well, now we've got five people in the house. But um yes, I rinse my dish. I don't know if my daughter always rinses her dish. You know what I mean? That was like Thanksgiving. You know, people were like trying to help out and I appreciate they're trying to help out. But like put stuff in the dishwasher covered with food. I'm like, you cannot do this. What the hell? What do you think? Where's it go? Does it just disappear? Right. You know, it's like.
00:34:33
Jeffrey Krug
Now, do you have a garbage disposal? No. See, we can't have a garbage disposal because we have a septic system. But you could. Yeah. That to me seems like a wonderful thing. Yeah, I'm pretty good at scraping everything out. My wife and son put a lot into the but we have a ah What do you call it? Basket strainer. yeah think Yeah. And I keep it in the thing just to lift it up. yeah So most of everything gets caught in that and then I just knock it out into the... But just the ease of... of like So my mom has a ah ah garbage disposal at her house and whenever we do a cleanup, it's just so easy. Everything just goes down there and you just turn that thing on and you're done. Yeah, my only gripe is like it takes up the entire cabinet underneath. of Yeah, it does take up a lot of space. And it's already packed down there for me, so I wouldn't even be able to fit it. All right. If I could do it, I would do it. I thought about it. Yeah.
00:35:27
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, you just can't I mean, I don't think it's a good idea if you have a septic system and plus the water from the water from the sink and the dishwasher go into a dry well, not not a dry well, they go into a great great water tank, not a ah set not a sewage tank. Yeah. So you're not getting that same kind of breakdown. Yeah, you're getting your dishwasher, your clothes washer and in your kitchen sink. Yeah, those things are, you know, we've had that one.
00:35:56
Jeffrey Krug
We've had to replace that whole tank once and those are the ones that go bad first because of like bacon grease and oh, yeah, but I always tell everybody like I'll wipe the plates down with a ah You know with a paper towel, so I'm not putting any kind of stuff down the drain. Yeah Yeah, that falls on deaf ears Well, and also you become the nag Yeah, that's very relatable. Yeah, I've definitely become the nag. I mean, I try not
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00:36:24
Jeffrey Krug
to be. Sometimes I just now I can just sort of stare at people. They know what I'm saying. That's like my wife changing. So we have the garbage pullouts got to 52 court cans and she's takes the one out, takes the bag out, puts it on one and she's like, it's like dragging across the cabinet doors. I'm like, babe, I'm like, you're like dragging the thing against the doors and like she gets pissed off at me. I'm like, but.
00:36:48
Jeffrey Krug
but But wasn't that whole kitchen free anyway?
00:36:54
Jeffrey Krug
It probably cost me 50 grand. Did it cost you that much? i mean Probably with all the material and yeah ah like all yeah I did all the electric, the plumbing. oh yeah That was a big job. Sheetrock, countertops. So you're done with housework for now? No. Well, I still have stuff to finish in the kitchen, but I got two weeks.
00:37:16
Jeffrey Krug
So I was listening to Woodshop talk yesterday. I sent you a link to that. Did you ever listen to that? No. That's Macromona, Mark Spagnolo, and I don't know who the other guy is. I forget the other guy's name too, because he's not a, I don't think he's a social media guy. He's ah he's a hand tool guy. Oh wow. But I also think that he's in the um the actual lumber business. Oh really? I think he's in the lumber business. Yeah. But they were talking about burnout. It was good. I was totally relatable. I think so many people in the YouTube world are like burnt out.
00:37:45
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, I could see you know how that could happen. I don't think it happens when we shoot a video because it's like the it's just the two of us and we're we we shoot them pretty quickly. Yeah. And it's like a conversation. And I think eventually when we start doing the lives, that'll be kind of fun to do too. But I think anybody who has been making content and doing it for as long as Mark Spagnolia and Matt and myself,
00:38:12
Jeffrey Krug
Also seeing all the changes in YouTube, you know, it's like sort of the the harder you work, the less you get, it seems like. ah And those guys aren't really playing the epoxy game like a lot of other content creators are. Yeah. Are people still doing that? Um, I think so. Yeah. That's crazy.
00:38:33
Jeffrey Krug
like I'm surprised at, so, and this is the last thing I'll say about epoxy tables. I don't see them as furniture functional furniture pieces. I see them as, I see them working as an art piece. It's not the kind of art I like. yeah But the reason why I say that is because I don't think you can actually use them without them getting the slightest scratch on them, right? Like. Yeah, it's like I was talking to my father-in-law and they bought, so he finished his kitchen like two years before I did and they bought a table and it has like a really textured oak, I'm doing air quotes, top, you know, where the soft grain has all been like removed with like a wire brush kind of thing. And it has like a, I don't know what the finish is, but it's like, it's, it's chipping off and coming off. So you see all these really light spots, it's staying really dark. And he was like, yeah, I was thinking about like sanding it down and then putting epoxy on it. I'm like, any scratch is just gonna be like, yeah,
00:39:29
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, so that's so I look at um like I think that ah the guy from Blacktail Studio does make really good videos. I don't really watch him because I don't really care. Yeah, but I've watched him enough to know like he's got a good cadence with his voiceover and he keeps it interesting because he blends in personal stories and he's just got a you know, he's he's got a way about him so I can see why he's just popular as he is.
00:39:55
Jeffrey Krug
But when he gets into these polishing of you know all the work that goes into the surface of this tabletop, I don't know how you can actually use that tabletop or that desk. yeah As soon as it gets a scratch, it's like no good. So that's why I can see it as an art piece, something that you put on the wall and don't touch.
00:40:17
Jeffrey Krug
But as an actual functional piece of furniture, I don't think it works. Yeah, you need to make something that's going to look better over time as it gets used and worn and and Kevinized as George Nakashima would say. So that's the other thing I'll say. I see all this stuff with slabs. I really don't have any interest in slab furniture. Me neither. You know, like the Nakashima stuff I like, but um it's like something that you can have like one of in your house.
00:40:45
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, otherwise, it looks like you're on a like a ski vacation or something like that. Like, like you're out in, um you know, I don't know some it just doesn't it doesn't make it looks heavy. Yeah. I think Nakashima did it great. Oh, yeah. And his his doesn't really look heavy. No, some of them do. But his tables don't they're really well done. And he didn't only do that. It wasn't all live edge stuff yeah like the Conoy chairs were Yeah, so chairs. So anyway, I i was looking at um I know I was watching Tommy Mac. Oh, yeah. Yeah. um So ah I like Tommy Mac. I mean, I never really watched him. Well, I think he might have gotten burned by like PBS. I think that he had a show called rough cut. I knew I knew he had a show. Yeah. Yeah, back in the day.
00:41:36
Jeffrey Krug
And then I don't know what happened to it. um But he, I was i was just watching him for whatever reason. I was trying to get, watch him ah woodworking content, which I don't really watch a ton of. And ah he did a short piece on like this lumber yard and it was just slab after slab after slab. And I'm thinking, who's buying, who's into all this slab furniture? I know that that's what everybody's building.
00:42:03
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, I mean, I like guys like Matt Cremona who slab out logs and then they make lumber out of it. Agreed. Yeah. you know but key Because you can find some really unique grain and different, you know, you got your crotch and your compression and there's all these different things that you don't find in like the lumber that I buy because it doesn't meet grade. Sure.
00:42:23
Jeffrey Krug
um where you may have to do some stabilization or you may have to do some epoxy, but not like lime green or pink. Yeah, you're just doing a you're doing like a dark brown black fill or something. Yeah. um That's cool. But like, yeah, like the live edge slab thing is just so played out. Yeah. And I just think it looks heavy and it's I'm surprised it's still a thing. I just ah yeah. I say it and I'll say it again. There's a reason that I've never been approached by a client to build a river table or anything like that, because the but true high end market, you know, we're in in the New York metro area. This is the this and and I guess probably surrounding like Los Angeles, you would say these are like the pinnacles of design in the US, maybe Miami, but but that's a whole different style. um There's a reason I've never been asked to build this kind of thing.
00:43:20
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, no, I totally agree. I i i agree with the the epoxy portion of that 100% and the slab about 90%, because the slab, I can still see if it's done right, but I just don't yeah think there's, I just don't see that much of a call for it, but I'm seeing slabs. I'd sooner buy a vintage piece from like a Nakashima or a Nakashima knockoff that was like an antique than have it commissioned, you know?
00:43:49
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, no, I totally agree. ah even ah what's ah What's the Japanese ah YouTube channel that you like? Oh, um Ishitani. Yeah. He's never making anything with slabs. No. Never see it. His stuff is beautiful, too. Beautiful stuff. It's it's so stylish. like Dude, but part of the reason why his show is so good, too. I mean, it's good, but his shop,
00:44:14
Jeffrey Krug
It's got a lot of great lighting in it. You hear the birds in the beginning. That's what I love about it's you're kind of going into a different environment when you go into his shop. And it's just like encompasses the inside and the outside. There's a lot of natural light. And that's a nice thing. if We could emulate that one day. that's you know I know I've said that about a million times. That'd be nice. And he's got great machines too.
00:44:42
Jeffrey Krug
That's just like a nice shop. Yeah, wood floors. Yeah, that's a great that's a great shop. But it's neat to see what he's building and it's there's no slabs. But even if you go to Monty's lumber, they've got a whole slab section now. Yeah, I mean, everybody's got a slab section. And I'm like, who's building all these slabs?
00:45:04
Jeffrey Krug
I think maybe maybe DIYers are
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00:45:07
Jeffrey Krug
doing it. But yeah, there's no glue up involved, you know, slabs with some hairpin hairpin legs. Yeah, right. Yeah, that's where Yeah, I mean, that's got to be the bulk of it. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah. I all the people that I know personally don't work with slabs. I don't know anybody who does. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a very, ah you know, such an organic shape to is hard to fit into a home.
00:45:34
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, that's why I think I think that like a very long dining table. It's kind of it's got to be so right to and the room has to be huge. Like you need a huge room. You put that into a into your normal like 14 by 12 dining room.
00:45:53
Jeffrey Krug
No, you can't do it. And like, I have to build a dining table. i'm I'm putting it off because I don't want to spend the money on the walnut. It's gonna, it's not going to be cheap. And um I'm gonna make a model. I found that. I found that when I make a an actual model, it's always the easiest thing for me to build from. because you can actually see it. Yeah, you can make little changes like okay, this is going to work or it's not going to work. What style are you going with? It's going to be a pedestal. Yeah, it's definitely going to be a pedestal but ah um
00:46:26
Jeffrey Krug
You know, so that there's the thing, right? You want to make something that is beautiful and you want to make something that's somewhat original, but at what point doesn't it just look like another pedestal table? Yeah. Right? And I think that's really the danger with a lot of the furniture. I mean, these are probably the most popular videos you see are these pieces of furniture that are unique, but are they good?
00:46:53
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, right. So furniture is furniture. I mean, I think it gets overthought way too much. It's like, it's serving a purpose. It needs to be clean. Like in my view, it needs to be aesthetically sort of clean and beautiful. But it doesn't need to be much beyond that. And if you try to like, do too much with it, it kind of kind of ruins it. It's like food, you know, you want something simple with good ingredients, you get too crazy.
00:47:22
Jeffrey Krug
It's nice every now and then to go crazy and do something wild, but can't do that all the time. So that's a big thing, ingredients, right? That's ingredients with woodworking, with food, with artwork. I was talking to somebody about this.
00:47:37
Jeffrey Krug
If you think of artwork, a lot of times it just comes down to the ingredients. And I'm thinking about, because I'm kind of burnt out, I'm gonna, I'm hoping to build a piece of furniture a month. Excuse me. God bless you. I'm hoping to build a piece of furniture a month, at least 10 pieces. So I'm giving myself a two month, whatever. And then I'll throw in some, you know, tip videos or whatever.
00:48:04
Jeffrey Krug
But i I'm really, I was talking to John, our web guy about that, because he was in the studio, we met in my art studio. Oh, cool. And he was like, Why are you doing this? You're doing that? And I'm like, Yeah, it's sort of like, like, a like a Martha Stewart kind of thing, you know, just don't go to jail. Yeah. um John Peter on stock stock exchange fraud. Did you see there's a really good documentary on her? She got she got kind of looked by that I was inside a training rate. Yeah, but it was very little and it was like compared to what people are doing like look at what Nancy Pelosi is doing. Yeah. Holy shit. um Anyway. um
00:48:42
Jeffrey Krug
So I was talking with John and John's like, I don't know, you you should maybe do an art channel. And I have an art channel. And I'm thinking maybe I'll try to post one art video a month. And that's because my son, Jack and his sons, his friends were looking at some of my videos because they want to make their own art for their own places. Nice. And I'm thinking, OK, people can make their own artwork. It's just a matter of sort of just knowing the right ingredients. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like if you go to buy, if you're if you're going to make a painting and your first step is you go to Michael's and buy a stretched canvas, you're off to a bad start. Because it's just going to be. It's just looks like shit. No, it's not going to fall apart, but it just looks like um
00:49:24
Jeffrey Krug
It's like go it's like wanting to build a wonderful piece of furniture you go to go home deep and going to Home Depot to get your lumber. It's just already like cookie cutter. There's nothing you know what I mean? But if you know a couple of things, it's like, you don't have to be original you could make ah you can make a knockoff of a ah of a well known artist. And that's better than You're learning something and that's and it's better than buying something at home goods or wherever. Yeah. Well, look at that. was it cat Was it Karen something that we looked at? What was her name? The artist that you didn't like. Joan Mitchell. Joan Mitchell. Yeah. You could do that. You know, you could.
00:50:08
Jeffrey Krug
You could rip off one of those paintings probably pretty closely if you wanted to. If you look at enough like modern art paintings, somebody always looks like somebody else. Yeah. I mean, it's just everybody looks like somebody, especially when you get into the color field painters, right? So the color field painters were painting just that fields of color. So Mark Rothko, you're probably familiar with Mark Rothko, maybe. I don't know. If anybody would be If anybody would be like a um ah recognizable name in art history, it's like Jackson Pollock, Mark Rothko, right? Those guys, um abstract expressionist, but Mark Rothko, a color field painter. But if you go from Mark Rothko in that whole genre, then you get into dozens.
00:50:57
Jeffrey Krug
dozens of well known color field painters. And for every well known color field painter, there's a dozen more that just were never really recognized. They still may sell in a second tier market. And they look just like the popular the one who got so they're doing a painting. It's all red. Yeah, so what in there so there's some tonal variation in the thing.
00:51:21
Jeffrey Krug
You know, ah like Barnett Newman, he would do... It's more about the texture of the... Sometimes, yeah, but sometimes it would just be about the color and the the space. And a lot of it is where it is, right? So like, you look at you look at a Barnett Newman, right? He would make these paintings mostly monochromatic, like one color.
00:51:45
Jeffrey Krug
you might do a whole red solid edge to edge. Well, he would have these like lines going through the paintings. And he would call he called them zips. But they were basically just he'd put he put not painters tape because we're going back 60 70 years ago, he put tape from top to bottom and paint the thing and then pull the tape off. And so you'd have areas where the tape the paint bled in there or whatever. But anyway, aren't at Newman would make these big, they're just fields of color. So Right. Here's another reason why they look great because they're in MoMA, right? You put it right here. It's gonna look horrible. Yeah, you put it, you know, you put it in the right room. It's gonna look great. Just like the slab table. Yes. Yes, but unlike the slab table, the art is not having to function. So the slab table will work.
00:52:40
Jeffrey Krug
But the epoxy table will not, if you're meant to use it. No epoxy tables. That's a general rule. But so my whole point there is anybody can make a color field painter painting, right? Whether you want to make one that's like Barnett Newman, or you want to make one that's like Joseph L. Beers, you just need to know who that artist is. And you just need to know what materials they were using. And now you can make one It doesn't have to be exactly like them, but it's no different than saying, okay, I want to make a Nakashima table, right? So if if you own a home and you're like, okay, I want to make my own dining room table, there's no nothing wrong with making your own dining room table. And yeah you could use one of my designs that's on the internet, or you could use a Nakashima design or whatever. If you want to make your own painting, right, you could either
00:53:30
Jeffrey Krug
you know, come up with a couple of million dollars and buy ah a Barnett Newman somewhere, if you can find one. Or you can come up with, you know, less than $100 of materials and make your own. And if somebody asks you say, Oh, yeah, I made that after Barnett Newman. Now, that's kind of interesting to me. Yeah.
00:53:46
Jeffrey Krug
So anyway, all that being said, I might do like an art kind of class once a month on a completely separate channel. That's cool. Like, yeah, like how to make art for yourself. Just make it for yourself. Yeah, and because I would enjoy doing that. And because it's on a second channel, it's like no pressure. Yeah, if it gets 10 views, you know, who cares? You just throw it out there.
00:54:08
Jeffrey Krug
I gotta build a frame. I forgot I have a painting that my brother did. ah ah I showed you that spot in my kitchen between the two windows. It's a big, it's pretty big. It's gotta be, I don't know, it's maybe, what is that, 30 by 18 or something. okay um So I gotta build a frame for that.
00:54:25
Jeffrey Krug
Um, you should send me a picture. I'll give you an idea of like what I think it would be good in a frame. yeah Although you want to, I'm sure you want it to match the surroundings. Yeah. At least be somewhat coordinated. Yeah. But you also want it to set off the artwork. Yeah. And it's so it's like a black and white cat on a red background. Like imagine like a cat's head, like about this big black and white cat with a red. So it's, it pops. Sounds cool. Yeah.
00:54:52
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, that sounds really cool. um Yeah, I'd like to see it. I'd like to see a picture of the, because maybe I can send you some some pictures of frames or of art that it reminds me of or whatever. yeah it's It's really, that's that's one of the most exciting things about ah making a frame is that moment you put the painting in the frame. It's just like it just gives the painting its own environment. And you're gonna put that right in your kitchen.
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00:55:20
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, that's gonna be cool because it you know, it needs a pop of color right there, too. Are you thinking a black frame? I don't know. I really don't know. Yeah. ah Send me a picture if you don't mind. I'd like to see it. Yeah, I got to dig it out. of It's in the basement. Is it stretched canvas? No, I'm not sure what it's like on wood or something. Why would maybe you might have to money to be paper. You might have to mount it. Yeah.
00:55:49
Jeffrey Krug
When you get around to it, let me know. Yeah. I guess if it's on paper, I could probably do something in the vacuum bag now. Um, maybe I don't even have to. Yeah, there's I mean, you can put it behind you can put it behind glass too. Yeah, I think yeah it's it's in like a cheap frame right now. You know, like plexiglass or something. Yeah, let me see. I'll have some ideas. Mm hmm. Anything else? That'd be cool. Yeah. Well, we just shot the video on the um sander light.
00:56:18
Jeffrey Krug
Yeah, I got to edit that if but it comes out good. I think it's cool. It is a cool thing. I mean, it works really well. um So I sanded all of the doors, all of the parts for that media console with it. So I got I got a lot of hours of sanding under my belt with it now. So you're going to use it all the time. Oh, yeah, it's just going to stay on that sander. Nice. so I mean, there's no reason not to use it.
00:56:40
Jeffrey Krug
That's like the cool thing about it. So out of the way and like, what's the what's the downside to having that on your sander? and have line Yeah. Now, once you tether the the wire to your your hose, that's the only work you need to do. Yeah. And it's such a thin wire that, you know, it's totally out of the way. It's like one one eighth the diameter of the power cord of the sander. Yeah, it's nice.
00:57:11
Jeffrey Krug
And they're going to, they're for sale already. They're on pre-sale. They're supposed to ship, I think, at the end of this month. but so and They're not going for the whole holiday rush. I guess not, yeah.
00:57:26
Jeffrey Krug
Well, it was cool. Yeah. Love to go shoot the ah the end video and try to get a shot of us for the ah for the new website. Yeah. Yeah. So check out the um episode description. Is that what you call it? I don't know. There will be a link if you want to come to the Meetup 1228 1 to 5. Click the link and RSVP so that we can you know have a ah somewhat accurate headcount. Cool. Looking forward to it. All right. We hope to see you there. See you guys.
00:57:57
Jeffrey Krug
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00:58:36
Jeffrey Krug
no shame, but there's been a change.