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Jeffrey Krug: All right. Welcome back to the show. All right. Early in the week. It's only Tuesday. Yeah. Early in the day, too. Yeah. Just shot a video for quick screws and we figured let's get the podcast.
Jeffrey Krug: Dylan. Over with. Anyone say that? Not that anyone out there is listening anyway, but um yes, we did a video on the funnel head screw. I'm impressed with that screw. I'm going to use that. Yeah. I mean, it's new to me as of like a couple of weeks ago and you know they sent it and I was like, what the hell is this? And then I tried it and I was like, wow. Isn't that amazing? Yeah.
Jeffrey Krug: It's like sometimes you just need your eyes open to something, then you'll just never turn back. It's, you know, there's a million things or not a million. There's a few things I've done in my life where I was always doing it one certain way and then somebody opened my eyes to a new way and I just like, oh yeah, makes more sense. Yeah. You ever like overdrive a screw in plywood and then you have to take it out and it just like blows the whole, like it pulls the top layer of an ear off. That would be like this screw won't do that because it doesn't make it down that far, and but it pulls There's nothing worse than like just continually driving the screw, trying to get it tight, and it just never gets tight. Yeah, and it's just sinking and sinking deeper and deeper. it's a Yeah. That's what's really nice about those screws. I mean, the whole thing is, once sir i mean I've only got a couple in my pocket that I'm bringing back to the shop to potentially use for a thumbnail, but I'm going to pick some up for sure. Yeah. I'm going to ask them to send me some, though. I know that. ah I don't know what they'll do it.
Jeffrey Krug: They sent me. They ah they got a thousand coming my way. Oh, they're going on on the house. Those they said. Yeah, there was an issue with the order. So they gave me a screaming deal on screws, but not free. But I had an issue with that order. They were out of stock in a thousand count. I just ordered like a thousand count of everything.
Jeffrey Krug: A lot of times I order 5 ,000 at a time, but I wanted, because I'm switching everything over, you know, it's a big expense. So rather than spend, say, 700 bucks, I spent 200 bucks, and I got switched everything over. So I got 1 ,000 of every screw I use for 200 bucks. That's good. That's super cheap. It's just really nice that you're going to be using pretty much the same driver for 80 % of your screws. Yeah, for everything except for... Confromat. Confromat. And trim.
Jeffrey Krug: Yeah, and and honestly, I don't really use t trim screws. yeah We just got them for the video. And a compromise screw is kind of like its own thing. yeah You're sort of already, it's like you're putting a drill bit in the drill. yeah It's a completely, it's its its own entity. yeah Yeah, it's like when you're putting on hinges, I use ah ones with pre -inserted Euro screws. Well, that's a number two posi drive.
Jeffrey Krug: That doesn't bother me because when I'm doing hinges, I'm doing hinges. You know, it's not like I'm putting together cabinets and I have to use a number two for this and a number one for that. And then what about their exterior screws? They have exterior screws. I don't know. but We should look into that because we could probably do a few ah quick exterior projects. So.
Jeffrey Krug: i I used to make videos for Power Pro. And so I was always looking for something to like, screw together to create a video, right? And they were kind of funny in that they never wanted me to pre drill or countersink.
Jeffrey Krug: And I'm like, well, I'm building furniture. It's kind of bad practice not to pre drill our counters. Yeah. um But maybe I can build ah like an X an outdoor bench or something with just two by fours. Right. And so ah that's what I did. And that video did really well. I think it over 200 ,000 views, maybe 150. I'm not I don't remember. But anyway, I I was having an issue with my my website, not so much my website, but YouTube because when my website crashed a year and a half ago or whatever, it broke all the links to all these videos that said, and there's free plans at the link in the description below.
Jeffrey Krug: But then those links would go nowhere because that server shut down the whole thing. Oh, yeah. I think we talked about this last week. So now John has is putting these videos all up on a separate page called Free Plans. So to kind of let people know about that, I turned one of those videos into like a minute and a half.
Jeffrey Krug: that that Gordon bench. Yeah, I saw that. And, and that thing, I built that for my son, he has it outside on his deck, and it's been two years. That was great. You know, as long as you put as long as you seal the bottom of the wood, and put it up on some like nylon domes, two by four is gonna be fine outside. Yeah, you'll get yeah you're gonna get five years at least exactly. yes It gets wet, and then it dries off. It's when it's laying in the dirt is when it's gonna rock. Yeah. So anyway, um I put that up and holy cow, my site, just like all the people. Oh, cool. Free plans. Cool, but at the same time, I'm like, holy shit, man. Spend a couple of bucks and buy the regular plans too. Yeah. You realize that you're getting a lot of traffic, just people are tight with their cash. Yeah. They could probably just Google like John Peters plans free and somebody stole them and they're up on some website for free. Oh, you're probably right.
Jeffrey Krug: That's something to look into. having I don't know what they call that service, but have somebody search the internet for stolen content. yeah i got a So I have a Google Alert for my name. I have a Google Alert for Green Street Joinery. So anything something new pops up on the internet with that. Those keywords, I get an email about it. wow So I got one Saturday or Sunday. Somebody's selling our Adirondack chair plans on some sketchy ass website. So what do you do about it?
Jeffrey Krug: they have like a thick They know what they're doing, so they have like a form that you fill out that's like, oh, request to remove content. I'm like, you know where's the source content? Who are you? Blah, blah, blah. So I don't know if it's down yet, but not not that we've really sold any of those anyway. but Yeah, but it's just terrible that that's what happened. like I'm sure all of my plans are on those 10s. 1 ,000 woodworking plans for $6 .99. Yeah, all that stuff, yeah which is terrible. but i mean So then I think, OK.
Jeffrey Krug: You know, support a small business, support the guy who's doing all the work and and don't be an asshole, but you can't really count on that. Yeah. Yeah, it's tough. We sold ah sold a little bit of merch. Oh, good. Yeah. ah We sold a set of plans yesterday. um This guy, I think, was named Mark. He actually, he so there's like a contact thing on the website. He sent a thing. He's like, hey, Jeff, he's like, I don't know if you you know would you even want to answer me, but I'm having trouble with these drawer slides. He's like, you help me out.
Jeffrey Krug: I'm like, yeah, I'm like, that's nice. Email me some pictures. So you're talking back and forth. And ah I sort of led him to his own. aunt yeah You know, sometimes you just need to talk somebody and then you figure it out on your own. That's what happened. He figured it out. um Basically, I had side mount slides and the drawers weren't closing all the way. um And he thought everything was square, but it seems like it was probably out of square. So he shimmed some stuff and got it to work.
Jeffrey Krug: And he was like, Oh man, I can't thank you enough. And then I look a little bit later and he had ordered a sweatshirt and a hat. So that's so cool. Yeah. But that's like, not that that's what you should do, but it is kind of like the right thing to do. You know what I mean? Like you gave some time. that Not that he has to do that, but it's a nice thing. Yeah. It's like you gave your time. Yeah. It's really, that's really nice. And I don't, you know, I don't expect anything out of anybody and I would, I help anybody who ever messages me or I always take the time to help somebody out because that's what I would want somebody to do for me. you know if i if If there was somebody that could help me out, ah look at that um if there was somebody that I thought could help me out and I reached out to them for help and they were able to, I would hope that they would help me. you know sure
Jeffrey Krug: um So we're over here on Quick Screws website and I'm going to filter by decking screws. I mean, this is all the stuff they have, big kits, cabinet assembly screws, cabinet install screws, confirmant screws, Corian sync hardware, countertop bolts, decking screws, drawer front screws, drive bits, drive tools, drywall screws, Euro screws, figure eight clips, finish washers, hanger bolts, hardware screws, knob and pull screws. Oh, that's what I should have ordered. And pocket screws. Yeah, magnetic bit holders, nut setters, pocket holes, screws, roofing, screwdrivers, stainless steel, T -bolts, wall anchors. So I'm going to search by stainless and decking.
Jeffrey Krug: So on that reel that I put up with the funnel head screws, somebody commented, their website sucks. I went over there and I searched for funnel head screws and I couldn't find anything for 10 minutes and I left. So I'm like, that's weird. I went to quickscrews dot .com, go to the search thing, funnel head. It's the first thing that pops up. Yeah, it's crazy. All right, so we've got to, ah they've got more than that though, right? Oh, yeah. it's Okay. Well, so the the reason why I asked that is we should build a couple of quick outdoor like garden things, just screw it's good content for quick screws. Yeah. And we can sell the or give the plans away or sell them cheap or whatever it is. ah It creates traffic to the site. And it's also the kind of videos that get a lot of views, especially if you're just building it with two by fours from the home store, I think with our garden planter.
Jeffrey Krug: we built it out of white oak. Yeah. And at the time, especially white oak was like through the roof. Like what the hell are you building that out of white oak for? But that would probably be good for the channel. Yeah. So it's a so something going to put them on there. I'll put it in my list right now. Yeah, these say exterior coat screw rated at 3000 hours. Not sure. What the hell does that mean? I don't know. Like you can have them outside for 3000 hours. That doesn't seem like them very long. Let's see what else I got.
Jeffrey Krug: Yeah, that's only what? That's a couple of months. Wait 3000 divided by 24. Yeah, that's only 125 days. Maybe they mean like submerged for 3000 hours submerged in water. I don't know. Hmm.
Jeffrey Krug: We'll have to, uh, I mean, stainless is always the best. Those epoxy coated screws, you know, they only last so long. Okay. Stainless is really the way to go.
Jeffrey Krug: And stainless screws, stainless steel screws are expensive. Yeah. It actually, it doesn't look like they sell like, um, you buy a box of stainless steel screws, forget about it. Yeah, they they um they have those stainless ones. No, just these. So they sell a lot of they have like ah another brand called Quick Bolt. And it's I think it's mainly like ah solar components for like the stuff on the roof. OK, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm leaning against the ah microphone here.
Jeffrey Krug: Quick Bolt.
Jeffrey Krug: Come. um Quill bolt. Quick bolt. I'm surprised they don't have more stainless steel screws. Yeah, I guess they're just not. I mean, you you you go to a builder's general and pick up a box of those. You're out like 120 bucks. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Quick bolt. Quick patch. Say goodbye to roof leaks. So this is all like um
Jeffrey Krug: stuff for solar, like mounts and bolts and stuff like that. Would you ever do solar? I have two by four rafters, so I'm sort of out of the out of the running for that. right Your rafters are two by four two by six. yeah Yeah, two by six to 24 and center. Yeah. Yeah. um Quick Screws wasn't lying about the shipping because they came like that's awesome. Yeah, I ordered them on either Friday, Thursday or Friday, and they were here Monday? Well, my feeling is ah you go to you know you get used to ordering there. It's it's look so much easier going, just clicking a few things on the website as opposed to going somewhere and buying screws. Oh, yeah. I don't go anywhere to buy anything unless I absolutely have to. Yeah, I get that feeling about you. I'm still sort of old school, and I'll wait till the last minute, and then I'm like, oh, was shit, I got to go run and get. Yeah. I mean, for the most part, if it's something sort of
Jeffrey Krug: Um, common, you can get it the next day delivered. But yeah, like something like screws, you're kind of, you got to wait a couple of days typically. So Solice, we're going to do some videos for them maybe. Hopefully.
Jeffrey Krug: I'd like to do some stuff. I want to definitely combine like veneer, some of that like acrylic stuff that we've talked about. I think that would be that could be good on either, you know, like a split project on the channel. I don't know. Yeah, figure it out because I, I definitely want to do something. I want to get I'm i'm excited to kind of play around with this process that I've been talking to you about. I don't really want to mention at the moment, but it has to do with um veneer but not veneering wood.
Jeffrey Krug: Actually, I don't even know if I want to get into that process so much on my channel because I don't really want to share all of that. Yeah, funny, like I did a long video on on my art channel on all the all the little nuance to making that Jimi Hendrix painting. I watch that. And it's like that's like a lot of sort of figuring shit out over the years. And then you kind of just give it away.
Jeffrey Krug: and it's fine if if like people are hey that's really gray and i'm going to make one for myself but then it kind of sucks if like somebody goes and makes it on another channel and doesn't give you any credit Yeah. ah just happens i guess That's just the way of the world.
Jeffrey Krug: i think though that that's how everything is but if generally ah Generally, I didn't see things on other channels. I usually picked up things from work. So if if I picked up something from Bill, the guy I worked with 25, 30 years ago, I would say ah even on my YouTube channel, and and actually, this guy Bill messaged me a few years ago, hey, I saw you on YouTube, whatever. But I would just say, ah my friend Bill Wackwoods showed me this way back you know in the 80s working at the woodworker.
Jeffrey Krug: But I, I think that that's sort of the one of the, I guess there's so many people doing so many things that are all the same now. So it's kind of hard to give credit to one person. Yeah. And you know, I'm sure there are instances of it, but I think most of it is probably not malicious. It's like, you know, you kind of get, uh,
Jeffrey Krug: like blinded by the headlights when you're in the camera, totally where it ends up on the cutting room floor, or it just slips your mind. you know um I think for the most part, it's probably just just um ignorance more than anything.
Jeffrey Krug: Yeah, you're probably right. Because it's amazing when you're trying to figure out what to say in front of the camera and you you say this whole thing, but you leave out like one key thing. It's just sort like, I don't want to redo it for that one thing. Yeah. And you know if you do so if you learn something and adopt it as your own thing, eventually it doesn't it just becomes your own thing. It's not like it was somebody else's thing. You just forget about where you learned it. I've learned so many things. I can't tell you where that's true where most of where I learned most of the things.
Jeffrey Krug: you know, especially if you're doing it like a lot, you know, it's so if it's fully integrated into your workflow. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, so I was saying before I got John shooting a couple projects today, that should be cool. Drippy, cherry countertop. Where's that project? That's in Rumson, but it's really in like NavSync. Okay. You know, Rumson mailing address. I don't understand that.
Jeffrey Krug: Dude, that's exactly where I'm at. It's like my neighbors in Rumson, my other neighbors in Atlantic Highlands. Yeah. and my other name and And I'm in Red Bank. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. It's at like a four point stop sign. Yeah. So across the street is Rumson and the other guy across the street is Atlantic Highlands. But everybody's paying their taxes to Middletown. everyone yeah Yeah, and they're high. Yeah.
Jeffrey Krug: Middletown, Rumsen taxes aren't so bad, I think, but Fairhaven is like through the roof, everyone says. Rumsen, the tax rate is low, but the rateables or whatever you would call it, or you know everybody's property is worth a lot of money. So that's how they're able to get a high tax revenue. you know okay So you imagine some dumpy house in North Middletown. Sorry if you live in North Middletown. The rate is higher because they got to make up for the fact that the value of the house is so low.
Jeffrey Krug: um Yeah. You know, Rumson, they're making a lot of tax revenue from less houses with a lower rate because the value of the house is so high. So if your house is $10 million dollars and the tax rate is only one and three quarter percent, well, you're doing pretty good.
Jeffrey Krug: Yeah, no, I i had a um i had a ah ah guy I kept bees with, one of the guys I kept bees with, he has two houses in Rumson, he has like a place in New York, you know, he's like one of those dudes. um So he, his house, one of his houses in Rumson's, I think it's like 17 acres maybe, or maybe not, maybe maybe seven acres, something like that. But that's where we were keeping the bees originally.
Jeffrey Krug: He was looking at a place on the river, on the Navasink River, but that's Middletown. And he was like, I'll never do that because the taxes are just out of control. Oh, on Navasink River Road? Yeah, he was looking like when you go, you know, when you go over the McCleese Creek little bridge there about two miles down from Route 35 on Navasink River Road. So you're coming from Ruth, the new one, the new bridge, the new bridge. Yeah.
Jeffrey Krug: So when you go over that bridge going east, on your right hand side, there's that big piece of property. It was for sale for like the last 10 years. I think the taxes actually came down because I originally heard that the taxes were over $100 ,000. And now I think that they're somewhere around 48 or still, I mean, but i remember I remember this guy just saying, I'll never buy a house. in middle you I was looking at Middletown because I wanted One of these places that backed up to the park or one of these big pieces of property on Navasink River, um but he goes, the the taxes are just ridiculous in Middletown compared to Rumsome. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, think of all the schools in Middletown. It's crazy. Yeah. Big police force. Middletown is a huge um municipality. It's like one of the biggest in the state.
Jeffrey Krug: Yeah, I know. I forget the... the um It's like 60 square miles or something. Yeah, something like that. That's what I was going to say. um um' i'm I've been pretty happy living in Middletown. you know We've been having some issues with the police force recently. Really? Why? ah One guy got caught having sex with a 17 -year -old girl by alcohol. Oh, yeah, I heard that. Holy cow. Other guy got caught with cocaine and and making ghost guns.
Jeffrey Krug: I don't understand. I mean, but that's just like, that's just your, the old story of you've got good carpenters and you've got bad carpenters, you got good cops, you got bad cops. So those few bad cops really gave, give a lot of the other cops a bad name, which is a shame. Yeah. But I look at like, I look at the job of being a cop. Yeah. It's not easy because you're dealing with like the worst portions of society.
Jeffrey Krug: But you're getting paid really well with great health care and you can retire early. So like I've known cops who at 45 they're like retired with full pensions. oh yeah And then they're doing second careers that they just like like to do, you know, their caddies or whatever. Now like ah so Middletown has a police officer in every school and um they're all like guys who have retired from the police force, but now they have like, I don't know how there's like a class three, what I don't know how it works, but like the guys who work at my son's school, they're they're not on the police force. i guess I guess technically maybe they still are, but they're not like active police duty. They're ex -police who are now security at the school. Yeah.
Jeffrey Krug: which is which is good, but it's not the best of the best you would think at the school if there's an issue. yeah And I mean, we all like to think, oh, there's you know but it's not gonna happen to me kind of thing. That's what everybody thought that happened to. But like and then you hear these like that that terrible situation in Texas where the people didn't go in, where the where the cops didn't go in, they yeah they just kind of let everything happen. and That guy's going to jail, I think. Oh, really? I think that cop's in big trouble for... Yeah, listen.
Jeffrey Krug: I'm not saying being a cop isn't a hard job. It is. It's hard it's it's got to be very hard. But like if you take an oath to protect people and when it comes time to protect people, you don't do it, you should go to jail. Did you see Bad Lieutenant with Harvey Keitel? No. I'll send you a trailer to that. You'll like that. That was a good movie. um you know Just a bad cop. it's Before your time, I probably watched that movie 25 years ago.
Jeffrey Krug: Maybe maybe 30 years ago. I can't believe it, ah but he's you know bad cop. It's freaking like he's crooked or he's just a bad guy Oh, he's a bad guy and he's crooked. But I mean like he's abusive and It's it's it's a little bit reminds me and now that I'm thinking about it a little bit like training day in that as as he's a bad cop his world is like really unwinding you know similar thing i think he's like betting on games and it's like going south and oh man training day was good yeah training day was really really good uh i'll send you a i'll write it down but i'll send you a uh i'll send you a link when i think of these movies i usually will send them to my son jack or
Jeffrey Krug: Yeah, that other one that you sent me with Richard Gere. I feel like I've seen that trailer before or maybe seen part of the movie. I thought so too, but I didn't see it. Like I said, I was saying to Laura. i was like Or it's very similar to another movie, the whole just the the some you know the ah plot.
Jeffrey Krug: How about a history of violence with Vigo Mortensen? Yeah, ah that's a good one. He's like, we see Eastern promises. That was a good one with, I think, Vigo Mortensen's in that. Oh, yeah, I saw that. That's like a Russian mob. That was good. Yeah, that was a good one. ah History of violence was pretty good. It was, you know, this guy gets a new identity and um moves to a like a quaint little town, but his past finds him. You know what I mean?
Jeffrey Krug: Definitely. ah Definitely. I saw it. I thought my wife saw it and she's like, she couldn't remember if she saw it. And then, um and she's like, you got to remember when we watched this movie, the kids were little, I was probably putting putting somebody to bed yeah and I was like, Oh yeah, maybe you're right. So she didn't remember seeing it, but it was good. She liked it.
Jeffrey Krug: I got it we got to get back into it. ah The holidays like interrupted it. But, you know, I was trying to watch a movie like every either Friday or Saturday night with my wife. And it's like switch off weeks. It's like you pick and because like she doesn't want to watch what I want to watch and I don't want to watch what she wants to watch typically. Yeah. So it's better if like it's just like you just picked a movie. I don't have any say pick what you want to watch. And then I got to watch it. Otherwise, you never get to watch what you want to watch. So have you what have you done?
Jeffrey Krug: Uh, like I said, it's been, it's been since like probably before Thanksgiving that we did it, but we were doing it for a while. I can't really remember. But you liked that movie, that last movie that I suggested. That was good. We watched that and and we watched, uh, carry on. same Night clerk. Yeah. See, I like, I don't think we talked about this on the podcast. We talked about it. Um, I thought night clerk was good or the night clerk. I forget the name 2023 movie. I thought carry on with.
Jeffrey Krug: with ah Jason Bateman was, was entertaining, but really predictable. Yeah. And like my wife was really enjoying it. I was like, who does that? Like he, you know, like the. I don't know, there's just some questionable moves. I'm like, OK, well, they didn't, you know, this guy didn't make that decision in there because otherwise the movie would be over. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like I don't like plot holes. Yeah. you know Yeah. I was just like, holy shit. That's like we're watching Night Agent. I'm still in season. Yeah. We watched the third episode last night.
Jeffrey Krug: Is the first season good? I'm two or three. of I like the first season, but it's you know, it's not a super heady show. It's pretty predictable, you know, um and like those action shows, there's all these, you know, there's like a sniper on the roof and he's like scuttling around like loud. as It's like you'd be dead. You know, or like, you know, there's he's being chased by two people and they're like, let's split up. And they're in the middle of New York City and then somehow they find each you would never find each other.
Jeffrey Krug: No, no way. I mean, the city is like you just blend in immediately. Now, I I don't have a lot of patience for movies that are sort of obvious. i I'm just ah I don't know. I actually just started watching the second series, not season, but the second second series of Dexter, where, um you know, the first one ended and then he ends up moving up into, I think maybe New York, upstate New York or something. I never watched it.
Jeffrey Krug: It was pretty good. Well, you know, I was saying to my wife, I said, there's there's um things about shows that you'll watch just because of thes the surrounding. It's almost like get like a little escape from where you live at the moment. ah So like when you would watch Dexter, you it was like kind of go into Miami. You know what I mean? Like kind of seeing. Yeah, yeah. Being there. And we used to watch this show called Doc Martin, which is like ah like a um It's like a Brit box kind of thing. He's out. He's like out in ah I forget this little island in Europe. Rob watches. They watch all those Brit box shows. Yeah, they're good. Some of them are really good. Yeah. Something about the British just a little too much for me sometimes. You know, it's funny. The British accent just sort of implies knowledge when it's not there. It's just so funny how
Jeffrey Krug: Like, have you ever seen that this comedian, she um she's kind of got red hair, I forget her name, but she yeah she goes in interviews like people who are really smart, but then asks them the stupidest questions and they just look at her like they're just like they they they're completely speechless. If I see one of them off, I'll send it over. is She she's British. She's British. And um oh, yeah, I think I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. She's like pretty funny.
Jeffrey Krug: ah But yeah, this is like something that that's been out recently. Yeah, I've been seeing it on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. It comes up on my reels. Yeah. She's talking to the ones I've seen. I thought she was talking to like actors and actresses, but.
Jeffrey Krug: I saw ones where she's like speaking to a scientist okay and she's like asking these questions. Well, she did this one thing where she's standing in front of, uh, she's like with a, an art historian and standing in front of a van Gogh painting and explaining how the painting might look good, but it's actually really bad and how sloppy it is. And the art historians like sitting there like, how do I react? It's kind of funny. Yeah. I like that kind of stuff. So what else are you working on?
Jeffrey Krug: I can talk about what I'm working on. I'll go first. So we, um I went out Friday, um got final measurements on a refacing job. So I ordered those doors from new doors yesterday. So hopefully we're gonna go down there and shoot a video. I think that'd be cool. I didn't ask Chris or Dan yet, but I'm sure they'd be cool with it. um Cause I'm gonna pick those up. It's like a lot of doors, 44 doors. So you're going to pick up these doors and then the cabinet, who's painting the cabinets?
Jeffrey Krug: ah Donnie Meyers, so I met Donnie at New Door's Spray Day with Nate back like 18 months ago. Where's his job? It's in North Bergen. So Donnie Meyers is going to prep and paint all the kitchen cabinets. Yep. Yeah. It's just face frame and panels. So the insides, he's going to tape out and probably he's going to spray. Yeah. And what kind of hinges did the old doors attached to the cabinets with? They're just some junky, like Euro hinge. So you're going to be new hinges, new doors, new hinges, new doors. Yep. That's, that's going to be neat. Yeah.
Jeffrey Krug: Yeah, I mean, that's that's like a what's what's a job like that go for for the client? so Just a ballpark like more than 10, less than 20. Is it a natural finish on the cabinet at the moment? It's it's actually like a bird's eye. The doors right now are thermo foil, bird's eye, maple thermo foil and um the panels are high pressure laminate. So all the doors are going to just go in the garbage.
Jeffrey Krug: Yeah. And we're reusing glass, we're reusing handles. Oh, really? We're using the hardware. Are you going to attach that you're going to attach the hardware on the job site? Yeah, so we'll um or the hinges here, have them installed in the door, and then I'll make jigs for new hinge plates. So we'll drill for new hinge plates install those that snap the doors on. Nice. Yeah.
Jeffrey Krug: What color are you gonna paint? It's called pompous grass. It's a bit more color. It's like a like a pinkish white. Wow. Yeah. Wow. You kind of lose me on that color. Yeah, not my choice. No, just pompous grass.
Jeffrey Krug: Yeah, you ever seen a pompous grass? They have those big, long stalks with those feathery ends. Okay. Yeah, they grow like really tall. Okay. um So they have like a natural granite, like that reddish -brown granite tile floor. Okay. Black countertops, black backsplash with a band of that granite. It's gonna work. It's gonna work nicely. Nice. Yeah. That's cool. It's a good job, dude. Really cool people. um So I did the job in this building, those oak cabinets that were on wheels. Yep.
Jeffrey Krug: This is their friend, so. Will you advertise that? That seems like it would be pretty easy to sell, refacing. Yeah, I think I'm going to talk to John about getting a page on the website. I want to get good photos of this job. The nice thing about that job is, yeah I mean, you're you're doing installs. It's not like you're installing the whole kitchen. Yeah. And it seems like, you know, a lot of ah lot more people are going to be able to afford a refacing as opposed to a... Yeah.
Jeffrey Krug: That's that's a good thing. And most people aren't really concerned with what's going on inside of their cabinets. You know, like could the inside of these cabinets be a little bit better? Yeah, natural, natural birch on the inside. They might be melamine. I'm not sure. But like, you know, the shelf, pint they're on like standards and it's, you know, they're not they're not the best. But you want to spend sixty five, seventy five. Yeah. More because then, you know, to rip out this kitchen and redo it completely, you're talking a hundred thousand. Yeah.
Jeffrey Krug: um So you want to spend 100 or you want to spend. So this painter, ah you have a good relationship with him? Yeah, I haven't worked with him before, but ah spoken with him a lot, follow him on social media, you know, see the work. He does a lot of work up in the Catskills. So he lives in Nutley, but he's got a he's got a place in the Catskills, too. So when the weather is good, they do a lot of work up there. Nice. Wintertime, they're doing more work down here. That sounds great.
Jeffrey Krug: Yeah, Donny, I'd love to have Donny on the podcast. um He was like a set builder back in like starting in the 90s in New York. So he was doing sets for like all these big. That's cool. Yeah. What's he spraying with? um He runs a Titan 440. He does. Yeah. All right. Which is what I just got. Yeah, that's cool. We'll have to be making a video on that. Yeah. So we got that refacing job, redoing a couple of ah exterior doors, just just prep and paint for a client, local client.
Jeffrey Krug: Can we make a video on the refacing project? Like a full video on that? Because, I mean, it will integrate with the Titan sprayer. All you need to do, are you going to get any before pictures? Or you already have them? Or? I have some. That's better than nothing. And ah you'll be able to get some shots after you install everything. I would do that.
Jeffrey Krug: you know There's definitely a good angle there. can you know Don't want to spend the money on a new kitchen? What about refacing? And I also think that could open up a couple of doors to potential sponsors, whether that's paint, whether that's hinges, hardware, whatever. Yeah. Yeah, it's real it's a galley kitchen, so it's really hard to shoot. but Yeah, just get some shots. The other thing too is if you get more of those, then we can reach out to a couple other hardware companies because I've worked with a few before and it's just not enough hardware to make it like interesting, you know, are worth the, the, uh, it's not worth it for the company. You know what I mean? It needs to be like a kitchen. Oh yeah. So, and that, and that's sort of like the idea too is like, how do you give something a facelift without breaking the bank? So I like the idea of that.
Jeffrey Krug: Yeah, it should be a good should be a good job. We'll see when ah when the doors are ready. So those will just get painted here. That's really and the nice thing about that. That's a job where, you know, you can you can eventually hire a lot of that out. Yeah, that's the idea is, you know, have um a good subcontractor for painting.
Jeffrey Krug: So they could just come in and do all the site work and then they just come in with the finished doors. Cause it's sort of like, that's the struggle. I don't want to do the site work and those guys, if they don't have a shop, well then you have to set up on site and spray 44 doors. Not really feasible in a lot of spaces, you know? yeah um So this is going to be like a three day turnaround. So we're going to come in day one.
Jeffrey Krug: We're gonna strip all the doors off. Donnie's gonna prime. Day two, he comes in, top coats. Day three, we come back, hang the doors, that's it. So you're out of your kitchen for three days. And he's spraying, he's spraying the cabinets are natural too? The natural finish or they painted?
Jeffrey Krug: ah What do you mean? Right now? Yeah. Yeah, they're bird's eye. So they're all bird's eye. So he's gonna have to really clean those. I'm sure he has a whole system of cleaning cabinets. Yeah, he's sand them, clean them, prime them. Just because in the kitchen you get like a grease gum. Yeah. Yeah, that's I think that's great. I think that'll be a good video. i I definitely want to know more about it. So so on my end, I'm just finishing up It's a Paduc and Babinga bench. And I think it's going to look really cool when it's done. I have to do ah just basically fit the lap joints. Nice, really nice snug fit lap joints. And now I'm just going to shape and sand and sculpt, probably going to add like a
Jeffrey Krug: on the leg, I'm probably going to dish out the back almost like a like a carved in bowl. Just because it's pretty simple shape. And sometimes like you do just a little bit of a little bit of carving on those simple shapes will look nice. Oh, yeah. So I think it'll look good. I thought I was building it in solid Babinga. But then when I started to rip one of the boards, I realized it wasn't Babinga, it was Paduc. So Paduc is very orange. Yeah, when you're when you're ripped when it's when it's a freshly cut when it's freshly cut. ah But it it starts to look like Babinga. Not as nice as Babinga, but the base is Paduc and the seat will be Babinga. I never really worked with exotics.
Jeffrey Krug: You know, these boards are like 30 years old because all these anytime I work with exotics, it's just stuff I bought 30 years ago. Yeah, because I kind of got into woodwork is like wow, but bingo that's so cool. Yeah, it's a pretty I feel like it's a pretty common Purple Heart. Yeah, people love Purple Heart. You know what? Purple Heart.
Jeffrey Krug: 10 years down the line looks nice. yeah It looks brown. It's like I have a piece that I built in Purple Heart and I like it now. I didn't like it when it was done. Because it's just purple. Yeah. But it it fades pretty it goes dark pretty quick. Yeah. um It's not my favorite wood to work with at all. But just pretty hard on the tools, right? Yeah, just being a like a young woodworker, like, oh, you know, kind of fascinated with like all these different woods. like yeah yeah like I want to like, put walnut next to maple, you know, tiger maple, all this stuff.
Jeffrey Krug: Now, if it's up to me, it's basically cherry, walnut, white oak. That's about it. Yeah. That's really, and really, ah probably cherry and white oak. Walnut, I'll i'll build with, but cherry and white oak are nice. And cherry's just the nicest to work with. Yeah. Yeah, cherry's the best. And it's inexpensive. Yeah.
Jeffrey Krug: Everybody talks about it red, red. It's brown. yeah like what do you I don't know what you're seeing. you know In the background there, when it's fresh, there's a pink tone, but more there's like a lot of cream, a lot of brown, a lot of gray. and It doesn't take long for it to get dark. yeah mean Literally six months, it's going to be... If anything, it leans more towards orange than red.
Jeffrey Krug: I agree with that. You know, like this this color on the bottom of this. Yeah, but definitely. um My table, it's darkening up real nice. And how is that finish holding up? Oh, the finish is great. It's definitely you know, there's definitely some scratches where that's going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. But unless you're right on top of it looking, you know, but said listen, it's the kitchen table, it's going to get banged up. Yeah.
Jeffrey Krug: I mean, I told you, I finished my kitchen table all those years ago with ah minwax polyurethane for the floors. And it's bulletproof. Yeah, i mean you you can leave a glass of water on there for a week or whatever, you know, and nothing happens. It is cherry though. So I can see like tic tac toe games and all that stuff where the kids played with a ballpoint pen on yeah a single sheet of paper. But you know, it's my table, I don't care. And that's kind of adds to the the, you know, the character of the table. Yeah. Yeah. I tell Hunter, I'm like, no pens on the table. Yeah. I think I told you this story, but I.
Jeffrey Krug: really early on in my woodworking career I i got a commission to build a walnut table for a client and I think they were in like Cherry Hill and friends also friends of mine and I dropped the table off on like a Friday and I got a call Saturday morning oh we're We had friends over last night and we were playing Pictionary and now there's all this drawing on the table. Like they were, you know, they were using ballpoint pens and I was just like, yeah, are you serious? And it was like, I was young in my career. So I went back and like picked a table up, sanded the top down and told them, you know, you don't play Pictionary. But I'm like, what did you think? I mean, where's your logic? Yeah. Well, that's not hard.
Jeffrey Krug: But even if you did that on maple, you're still going to like a ballpoint pen. I mean, it's not for mica. Yes, it's wood. I can't maybe. I mean, maybe the bingo because that stuff's hard. Maybe white oak, but cherry or walnut white oak, you'd have hell with the with the open grain. You know, you wouldn't be able to write on it very well. That's what I'm thinking. So tonight we're heading heading up to Edison.
Jeffrey Krug: help out the Cub Scout troop. I forget the troop number, but Ed Johns is the ah pack leader there, helping out with the Pinewood Derby. So that should be interesting.
Jeffrey Krug: Yeah, I'm going to bring the camera and the microphone so we'll shoot a little video. I'm going to try not to get I'm going to try to not touch any pine. It's funny because I got that ah ah message from Ed and I'm thinking, man, I don't want to touch pine ah because I'm just um for me, it's like poison ivy. Yeah.
Jeffrey Krug: So I'll just be kind of careful. the The good thing is it's winter. So it's not it's like when your pores are open. Yeah. And I was telling Jeff like I always have like a little bit of like an extra ah prescription of prednisone because it's like that severe.
Jeffrey Krug: So I'll just kind of it's not a it's it's a skin and it's a skinnier attempt. Yeah, it's not like you breathe it in or something. Right. And it's really weird because as when I first got into woodworking, in the mid 80s, everything was built in naughty pine, we just built everything naughty pine furniture. Maybe that's why I built up an allergy to it.
Jeffrey Krug: Yeah. Yeah. and And you know, your body just changes. It does. It really does. It's amazing how your body does just changes out of nowhere. Like one minute, you're not allergic to something next minute you are or vice versa. Yeah. Yeah. And you could have like something happen and then you know, you're allergic or whatever. It's crazy. And you're always finding out new stuff about, you know, about your body.
Jeffrey Krug: a like Now, I'm starting to think my back is coming from my psoas, which is like inside of your pelvis. you know Why do you think that? just you know Just looking and reading about stuff and about what can cause what and going to the massage therapist and her talent giving me feedback as to what she's finding. How is your back?
Jeffrey Krug: um
Jeffrey Krug: ah Yeah, it's hard to say. feeling Today, it's not feeling too bad. Yesterday, I lifted a five -gallon bucket full of water and it and like tweaked it a little bit. well um But i think I think a lot of it is originating sort of in my hips. Wow. yeah Well, a friend of mine, a guy who's in really great shape, a major yoga dude,
Jeffrey Krug: He did something to a knee. I don't know which left or right knee. and he Instead of sort of like going to the doctor, and he's like, I'll just tough it out. Meanwhile, at the time, he was probably like 66, 67 years old.
Jeffrey Krug: And so ah because he was favoring like one side as he walked, he developed sciatica in his back. And he said he's like, John, I, I never understood how people get hooked on painkillers until now. Yeah, he goes, this thing just put me out. And I mean, it's terrible because very, very active guy with, you know, just biking and yoga and all that stuff. And he was like, laid up for a long, long time. So Yeah, you know you kind of figure out how your body works and try to make it work its best as it can because that's like everything if you're if your body's Messed up. It's like everything else seems secondary. Yeah. it is Yeah, it's hard to focus on other things Yeah, so now I'm trying to I've been stretching in the morning
Jeffrey Krug: um trying to just open everything up. And I don't know, we'll see. I bought like a back brace that's supposed to help you put you put you into like the proper posture. You're only supposed to wear it for like, you know, maybe like an hour a day, you know you know, because if you wear it for too long, you're relying on that versus just trying to like retrain your body. So when I went to get a massage on Saturday, like she must have spent I go for 90 minutes she usually runs closer to two hours. She probably spent an hour and a half
Jeffrey Krug: I start on my back an hour and a half on my upper body. Wow. Me laying on my back. And she's like, sorry. She's like, i you know, it was just so bad that. Wow. Yeah, um so that is now activating new muscles that I haven't been using because it's correcting my posture and I was just like, you're gonna exercise more, are you're gonna do any like, um yeah, like, ah I don't know, some light, light weights or something. Yeah, that's, that's the idea. You know, but like, I gotta, I have to, my back needs to feel a little bit better. Yeah, you got to build up to that point. Yeah.
Jeffrey Krug: I don't work out a lot, but it's like, like I i did 20 minutes today, because I knew I was just going to be busy. And so 20 minutes, sometimes it actually feels like forever when you're working out, but sometimes it goes pretty quick. I'll put on a podcast or something. And it's just some, ah some bench, some flies, some triceps and stretching in between.
Jeffrey Krug: If I had more time though, I would focus a lot more on just all physical, you know, everything, like more, just more and more exercise. But that's somebody who's just turned 57. Everybody who sort of is like my age is like thinking like, oh, okay, I got to do this. I got to do that. You know, especially if you want to be active. Yeah. It's all about time too. Like how much time can you sacrifice? You know, people are like... Well, that's the thing. The 20 minutes you can. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No matter.
Jeffrey Krug: So like there's times where it's like 7 30 at night and I'm like the last thing I want to do is exercise. I don't go to a gym. I just have some just some crummy weights down in the basement and I just put the podcast on and it's like not it's like flipping a switch. I'm a different person after those 20 minutes. It's just so much better to do that.
Jeffrey Krug: And I mean, you um because because you put in those 20 minutes, you're more likely to put it in the next day. yeah It's when two or three weeks goes by, you're like, why bother? Oh, yeah, yeah. um And yeah, doctors now, like, you know, I don't know if you remember, like even going back 10 years ago, doctor never told you to lift weights. They never recommended that. If anything, if you were too young, and I don't know, they probably still do, but like if you were too young, they told you don't lift weights. Yeah, cause you because it could be a growth. yeah But now, that's like the number one recommended thing. Like if you wanna lose weight, they tell you to lift weights. That's the number one recommended yeah exercise. yeah It's low impact and the more muscle you build, the more calories your body burns. They say anybody 40 or over should be lifting weights three times a week at a minimum. Oh yeah, and especially for your bone health. Yeah, that's a bone density. I tell my wife, she she like goes for walks and I'm like, you gotta lift weights.
Jeffrey Krug: Yeah, back in the day, like if you wanted to lose weight, they'd tell you to run. Yeah. I mean, running is, um I mean, for some people it's good, but for me, it's like catastrophic to my body. My joints can't handle the the impact. I can't stand running. I don't enjoy it. I was running a little bit last year, maybe two miles, three times a week. I just got out of it, but it was the most, like the first mile, just total like pain, just nothing enjoyable about it.
Jeffrey Krug: So I would run a mile, then I would walk maybe a half a mile, and then I would run a mile or maybe, you know, 0 .7 miles back to my house. And I just didn't enjoy it. The only thing that was good about it was doing the cold plunge after it, because it's sort of like you kind of got warmed up and you'd go right into that and it was kind of a good mental thing. And on that subject, I haven't done the cold plunging.
Jeffrey Krug: months. Oh, really? Yeah, just kind of got out of it. I don't know. I'd like to get back into it. But in fact, ah we had water in it and the ice that was in the cold plunge was like 10 inches thick. You couldn't even like get in. Yeah. We had a cold stretch there for a while. Well, they were they were um ice boating on the Navasync for the first time in years. Yeah. Well, you've probably been staying out of the ice bath because you've been in the sauna in the basement. Yeah, I wish. I wish. I was just looking at what I was thinking.
Jeffrey Krug: I've got all this nice poplar and, uh, Baltimore's plywood. What should I build with that? We should just build it here. wait I'll do it. I don't know. I've just been in a, I haven't been in the right mindset for it. Yeah.
Jeffrey Krug: But it's because I look at it like, oh, if I wanted, if I do the sauna, I really need to do that first. And I need to just, you know, it's like my kitchen. It's like, oh, I can't put in the cabinets till I paint the ceiling. How great is it that you have that done, though? Yeah. I mean, there's still some things to button up, but, you know, those could stay like that for a decade. And it might. Yeah. It's amazing how quick a decade will go by. I got to fix the ceiling that got ruined, you know, a week after I finished. Yeah. It's not ruined. You can't. If you didn't know, you you would never point it, pick it out of the ceiling. but With you can't um call homeowners insurance on that one. and I don't know. I mean, i only it's not it's not allowed to fix. I only say that because I think it was my my sister in law or something. Her something happened with her bathroom and they ended up like getting a huge check to replace their. But all their sheetrock and all this stuff like it ended up like ah and my niece
Jeffrey Krug: They're they're in they're in Virginia. They came up to visit my grandmother, my mother or grandmother. And when they got back something, one of the water pipes broke and they got a whole new kitchen and they needed a kitchen. Then they raise their premium and the next year they drop them. Yeah, they maybe that's the case. I don't I don't know. We've never it's it's just a little tape joint. I need to I just need to cut the tape and there's retail like eighteen, eighteen hundred dollars.
Jeffrey Krug: , and i did have i woke up i forget what it was ah last monday to the toilet leak in oh man you know i told me you got a new wax yeah yeah so i replaced the wax ring i went with one of those hybrid like rubber and but the wax underneath um and I figured while I was at it, I would replace the gasket between the tank and the bowl because when sure when the toilet in the shop leaked, I replaced the wax ring and then it turned out that it was that gasket. My plumber fixed that. So I was like, oh, I'll kill two birds with one stone. I'm already here at Lowe's. It's only like eight bucks or whatever. Universal gasket. So I get home, get the wax ring on, then I'm going to put the new gasket on before I remount the toilet.
Jeffrey Krug: doesn't fit ah i have like some glacier bay bullshit toilet for a project source or something somebody put the cheapest possible toilet in there and it's like a huge gasket like what the hell so this is like nine am m on a monday i'm having't even made it to the shop um so i went to jasin and they had one and it was like okay for three inch so I bought that and it didn't seem quite right but I got it in like I really had to tighten the bolts down to get it to get the tank down low enough where it it wasn't like moving you know but it wasn't leaking so I came back then come home that night I'm sitting in bed before we put 100 to bed like say seven o 'clock seven thirty
Jeffrey Krug: or no, it was later, it was like 7 .45. How he goes, the toilet's leaking. Did you say, can you fix that for me? Oh my God, so I go down the basement, I gotta bring the shop vac up, I gotta suck the water out of the toilet. Pulled it all apart, I ended up having to, so the gasket was like two layers, it was like a gasket and then it had like almost like a wedge shape, you know, like where it would go into something and sort of like lock in. I had to cut that completely off and just have just like a flat gasket. I'm gonna use a new toilet.
Jeffrey Krug: I don't know, 250 bucks. Yeah. That was going to be my next thing. I'm like, OK, I'm just going to get a new toilet. Yeah. Because I thought maybe I had cracked the the the tank or something. Yeah. um But that fix it. The the bolts inside the tank were too tight to pull it down where that gasket was kind of coming up and it was leaking out of there. Yeah. It's always something when you have a house. Yeah. Just what's next. Yeah.
Jeffrey Krug: um Look at that, we did an hour. Cool. Or just a little bit less. Yeah, so thanks for listening. Check out the video this Saturday on the funnel head screw from Quickscrews. That's our final sponsor video at Quickscrews for now. Nice. We'll see. Hopefully we'll be working with them again in the future. We'll talk to you guys next week. All right, see you.
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Jeffrey Krug: It ain't no shame, but there's been a change.
