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Turmoil Lull Turmoil
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Lance's old friend, Turmoil, is back to torture him about his pathetic retirement identity. Matt is in a peacful lull as he contemplates getting hardcore into wood slabs.
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Thanksgiving Humor: Jose Feliciano
00:00:01
Speaker
Yo, dude. Let me just. Oh, God. Here you go, dude. Every fucking time. I just want to say hi, dude. I'm sorry. I want to know if you got all that all that trip, the fan out of your
Introducing the POS Statement
00:00:12
Speaker
body yet. and row You fucking said just launch into your POS statement and we'll go from there and then you start. I say launch into it. I just said, do you have one? OK.
00:00:26
Speaker
Jeez, bro, dude, boy, boy.
Purpose and Privilege: A Personal Reflection
00:00:31
Speaker
I'm going to raise my hand when I put here for me. So I just want to before you get in your POS statement, Lance, I hope you had a good Thanksgiving weekend. Last week I mentioned Christmas music and I called the singer Pedro Feliciano. His fucking name is Jose Feliciano. And it sounds like I just cut in a racist way, just picked some Hispanic names like they're all the same.
00:00:54
Speaker
So I got some shit about that. And I just want the world to know, I actually thought the dude's name was Pedro Feliciano. It wasn't just like, ah, pick a Hispanic name and see what sticks. So, my apologies. Los siento. Okay. Okay, I had to get that out, buddy. All right, go ahead. All right.
00:01:14
Speaker
Great. Lip sealed. Great. All right, dude. I'm a POS because
Career Changes and Life Milestones
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Speaker
despite my ever-growing privilege, I still struggle with what I want to do to fill my time. And no no matter how good my situation is, I find a way to make it be not as good as it could be. so Wow. what What a fuck.
00:01:41
Speaker
And I my POS related the same thing as kind of figuring out the direction that I'm going right as of December 4, that feel good right now. But it's still a I don't know if it's a POS thing. It's just something that we all got to do. Like, because I because people that are on the same path that they've always been on, whether it be like a 30 year career, they have doubts. We all know that. And people that made different moves like we did.
00:02:07
Speaker
you kind You can look back and be like, shit, I should have just rode the gravy train to the end or or whatever, right? Yeah. Well, I was asked to get off the gravy train.
00:02:27
Speaker
So you're how far out are you right now of your life change? A year, year and a half? Yeah, 1.5.
Balancing Expectations and Personal Goals
00:02:38
Speaker
And the the idea of just enjoying it is is too hard. Like we talked about before, you drink your coffee, go for a bike ride, pick up the kid, or whatever you got to do, go see his game, do a little coaching. It's not enough where you would just wrestle with society's pressure that that's not enough for you.
00:02:56
Speaker
it's Both, man, sometimes it's not enough. ah this This is good intellectual stimulation, but sometimes it's not enough. And I will then get into these rabbit holes of like, what else should I do? So my most recent is I'll maybe go back to trying to substitute, teach a week or two, and then I think about what that actually means. And I'm going like, fuck, I gotta to get up get up early, go babysit motherfuckers who Don't really give a shit. And there's not a lot. It's not like that's a growth in community or intellectual stimulation for the most part. It's just a place to be. So I struggle with that. But then I've got the coaching, which I always love. And and that, you know, it fills a lot of headspace and it's stressful. And yet it's it's hard to justify to society to the other point you made that
00:03:49
Speaker
that you're really ah being useful with your time.
Career Decisions: Societal Pressures
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Speaker
And so it's just like, no matter what, there's no escape from Lance. I could be working and making a great living and still be like, what the fuck? And here I am having having saved enough money to not have to do that. And I'm still, what the fuck? There's just no escape from Lance. And that's why I'm a piece of shit.
00:04:15
Speaker
Is there any, there's a side of pressure that that makes you feel like a piece of shit but is there is there any other pressure like your family or your No, I mean, my wife's on board. I think she she would put down some pressure if I wasn't you know happy, if I started to kind of like get depressed or falter here in this stage, if I wasn't coming across as fulfilled. And I haven't, I've been way better, but yet I'm feeling this cycle change where it's like, no, you might want to figure out where you're headed, what you're trying to do.
00:04:48
Speaker
And I do have ideas of how I can get into coaching more. The challenge with that and the family is is, of course, it's all at night. And it's like being working in high school and being locked up every night when your kid's playing hoops. And it yeah, there's barriers to that. But then you just go on nd.com and look for something that's interesting and dynamic. That's part-time. It's just not there. There's just nothing. And then if you thought full-time, I just know that feeling immediately of like,
00:05:19
Speaker
ah I'm gonna go back into healthcare, technical program management and it just be constant calls. Hey Lance, so where where we at with the implementation of the radiology ah migration? Fucking don't know bro, fuck. Can you do that? Can you do your suburban white girl impersonation for that one?
00:05:41
Speaker
Yeah. whys so right yeah So there's no, there's no end point. And we have this, I have this feeling like when I go meet and talk to people that they're eternally satisfied.
00:05:55
Speaker
And maybe they're just not thinkers. like i wish i was I wish I didn't think so much. I wish I just kind of rolled. And I'm constantly like processing. Like, is this right? Is this that? And I always said, up last night, Sun played a big game. Didn't go as well or as planned. He he played hard and all that. But like I'm up like, oh, OK,
Passion vs. Financial Stability
00:06:15
Speaker
what about this? What about that? And just like stop thinking, dude. Just fucking stop. Get a job. That'd be better or worse with the with the job.
00:06:25
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know, man. I think I'd probably be up a lot more at night with a job because these these environments are so stimulating, coaching and this, that like I'd be like sweating, having to get up early or something. I don't know. I just feel weak, bro. And I need to figure out what I'm doing. Have you thought about the timeline? Because I think, and I'm sure a lot of our listeners were relate to this. have you Have you thought about you basically got what A year and a half, two years where your life changes dramatically as far as being an empty nester. And so turn that fucking internal dialogue off, ride that out, and then be like, all right, now I really got and i'm shit to do. like do i Now I can go all in on coaching, I can go all in on volunteering, I can go all in on getting back in the workforce and just don't don't worry about it. I'm sure the
Justifying Life Choices: Impact on Well-being
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answer's probably no, right? you You tell yourself not to worry about it
00:07:24
Speaker
It doesn't help. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I haven't for a while and it was is great, dude, but, um, I just find ways to spin no matter the circumstance. Find it gets bored of stuff. Say again. Like, are you a guy that gets bored of stuff? Oh yeah. And it's not ADHD level boredom, but it's, it's sort of.
00:07:48
Speaker
What's next? like guys It's kind of figured out. Yeah. But it's not, I don't know that it's always healthy. You know, sometimes the joy in life is sticking through something and it's obviously not always good. I don't know. I'm not afraid of the hard work.
00:08:03
Speaker
I'm not afraid of hard work. I'm just afraid of trapping myself into a system or environment or set of tasks that aren't fulfilling. And then it's hard to motivate, man, when you don't have to for financial reasons. ah It's harder to motivate. It's harder to justify certain activities. So all that's in the mix for me,
00:08:24
Speaker
which is a nice counter to you. And I mean, we'll get in all your bullshit too, but like, I don't fucking know, man. I ah periodically sound like I know what I'm doing. And I just, again, nope, nope. I think the counter to that is exactly what you just said for me. It's like over the last year, I've come to terms with the fact that it's okay to do something for money. Like I kind of am coming full circle on that where everyone's all find your passion and you'll never work a
Career Identity and Life Goals
00:08:52
Speaker
day in your life. Great.
00:08:54
Speaker
Or i might ah the other side is that a lot of times you ruin your passion, because you made it you made it a necessity, like a financial part of your life. And so so i'm at right now, I just feel like i don't it's OK, whether it's a job or starting up a business where it's not everything that I owe. I want it to be, I don't even know what a funny example would be. But like my you know something I have a passion for, it's like, who cares? You just go make some money and enjoy life.
00:09:24
Speaker
and enjoy everything outside of that. And so that's kind of where I'm at. Yeah, and maybe once I'm back in the grind, I might be like, oh fuck, what did what did I do? but But yeah, I don't know. It's like nothing is that great. So you don't, I'm almost the other, I don't know if this is good or bad, but nothing's that great, so don't worry about it. You know? Having nothing to do is not that great. Having too much to do is not that great. And everything in between is like, find as much balance as you can, but still not gonna be like, awesome, you know?
00:09:54
Speaker
Right. ah do you Do you find you you're justifying the choices you have to make? and And I ask it because I just see that with people, as I've seen people that are close to us go through their own roller coaster rides and then they they might be on the the high, which is a place of like justifying their choices and it feels good and this this is right for me and all that. Are you are you doing that now, do you think?
00:10:20
Speaker
I actually, funny you ask, because I think that is what I'm trying to do to to avoid, to like not turn into a head case. It's like stop trying to justify anything. Stop trying to justify why you didn't like the past. Stop trying to justify what, like, you don't need to justify it. I mean, there's justification in that I need some money to like, you know, pay some bills. and feed the kids and everything. That's that is a justification. That's a real justification, right? Like survival. yes Yeah, it's a big one. But ah yeah, I'm trying not to justify like, for example, surfing is a kind of a selfish act. But ah but I spent some time trying to justify why it wasn't. And then it's like, who cares? Right? Right. I know. Like, so I, I, yeah I stopped at like,
00:11:10
Speaker
I mean, like the substitute teaching, it's funny, because I think we had a conversation, he's like, well, it kind of there's some synergy, because it's gets you into like, coaching, and you're kind of dealing with kids. So, but in a way, it might, the you know, maybe you don't even need to justify it's just like, well, it's just a place to go. Let's have some social interaction. Yeah. Fucking who cares?
00:11:30
Speaker
By the way, is that's an interesting substitute teacher. like where does that Where does that sit on societies, things that people like may not look look highly on, you know like trash man substitute teacher? it's say a Well, the kids certainly look down upon themselves.
Teaching as a Career: Pros and Cons
00:11:47
Speaker
My goal was to stick to stuff physical education because I can walk in in there and do that pretty easy.
00:11:53
Speaker
ah But it's a lot of retired teachers who step into that space and retired professionals. You make it in money now? i i do like You probably actually make a decent amount per day, right? Couple hundred bucks, I think, yeah. Couple hundred bucks. yeah Eight to three. Yeah, but youre you know it's it's a stimulating and and potentially intense environment, depending on what classroom you get. I think you'd love it, dude, because it'd just be like a performance for you.
00:12:20
Speaker
Maybe. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just i'm ah sifting through that as an option, but, you know, I'm used to a certain level of intellectual stimulation or types of people that I've worked with and, uh, which isn't a judgment. I actually think you'd be like a good teacher, dude. Like, I mean, coaching is teaching, but I think you might be a good, whether it's like ah adult education at a community college or you could become a professor. I doubt you feel like going to get your doctorate and try to become a professor now. But I think you I think you probably would be good at that because you like to perform. And you like you like kind of coaching, you've always said and you like being like, like a kind of a clown, the social environment and that that all that leads to like being a good teacher because but it keeps people engaged.
00:13:09
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Perhaps, perhaps Matt. I think it's an emotion though, huh? I don't know, man. I think it's an emotional drain for me. I think it would really suck me in. and Is that good though? You like the emotional drain where you you just lay down at night and you're like exhausted. That's what keeps you up, not puts you to sleep.
00:13:26
Speaker
I just am susceptible to those types of stimulating environments. And I move towards coaching because I crave that to some extent, but also like the nice thing about it is, you know, you have a big break, but can you imagine like five days a week straight of having to like work over a classroom? I just don't know that. i up Yeah. Being a motivator every day
Life Satisfaction vs. Achievements
00:13:46
Speaker
of the fucking year is, Oh yeah. God is like, because a lot of days you're like, I'm the one that needs motivation. Not you kiss my ass, you know?
00:13:56
Speaker
like So I just, I don't know, dude, I think you kind of got to figure it out. If you just let yourself believe that, like you've got, what do you got? You're coaching two teams. You got this and you have flexibility to watch your son finish out his high school career. And, and like, you probably should take advantage as much as possible. Yeah, you're right. I'm probably, I just need to stop, stop thinking.
00:14:21
Speaker
Or either make a goddamn decision like right like at some point, are you gonna do you need to get back in the workforce or not? Like you just need to go. Alright, that's not an option because I even if you're looking at indeed to me, dude, indeed. Here's one. You ready? Patty first anger Lance. Yeah, you ready? You remember the the the STD slides?
00:14:44
Speaker
in high school health class, STD slides. Scary you out of sexual intercourse for a little while. It worked. When I read, indeed, job postings, that's what happened. It scares me out of wanting to get back into the workforce, right? Bit alert, bit alert. No, that's a good premise, actually. We're doing concepts on this show, because I can't work it out. No, it's true. It's true.
00:15:11
Speaker
I can't read a whole one, dude. I can't. I know. ah Yeah. Our organization strives to provide. I know. I get it. Somebody's got to do it. Yeah. But you stop reading those, dude. Stop reading them. I know. I only do that because i it's a day I'm particularly susceptible to feeling like a lazy bastard. But you're tired because of the stress of of your of the emotional roller coaster that was your son's basketball game, right?
00:15:41
Speaker
Well today, but i didn't I haven't done it today, but I've done it in recent weeks just because I'm sort of like, what are you doing? Why isn't everything so meaningful and wonderful for you? What's wrong with you? And I'll do that and look for wisdom in job postings. And you're right, it's never there. It's just more depression.
00:16:00
Speaker
I know I'm not depressed. It's just like some days, there's no there's no escape from this, by the way, for anybody listening, thinking that I'm just some privileged fucking whiner. There's no escape from this no matter what context you have. Unless you're somebody that just is super grateful and has extreme gratitude on a daily basis,
00:16:22
Speaker
you're gonna fall into these ruts. So when I'm in that rut, I go to Indeed for whatever reason, and I go to like switching around my investments. That's a good idea. If you use Indeed as a motivator, remind yourself that that things are good. Don't fuck it up.
00:16:35
Speaker
Well, I go there to thinking there's something, some better answer or maybe adjusting my investments or some feeling of euphoria that comes from it. It never does. It's always an empty, empty fucking task. You can enjoy a sing, sing like something went up. Your, your things are doing well.
00:16:54
Speaker
Not anymore. It's almost the opposite. It's like, oh, it's over. So it's overbought. Uh-oh. Oh, one's a crashing. Yep. I'm, I'm, I'm, uh,
Commitment to Podcast and Endeavors
00:17:04
Speaker
and part of that's with age of just not buying into the hype. But man, man, getting out of your head though, is, is the key. I'm not, and let's get off on me, dude. Cause people probably hate me at this point. I like it, dude. But yeah, there's people like, oh, poor, poor guy, poor white guy again, huh? Poor white guy. No, the white guy, white guy can't do anything anymore.
00:17:24
Speaker
There we go. I want to get you going on that. No, I'm kidding. You should he should do join the clan but for your free time. Here's what pisses me off, is I made a conscious decision to to grind and to save so that I could do this, so that I could get into coaching. I'm doing all that and I'm still finding a way to whine.
00:17:43
Speaker
right I'm doing exactly what I said I wanted to do. Maybe not at the scale oh or commitment that I want in the future because I don't want to sacrifice my son son's performance or watching him play rather. right And I'm still.
00:17:59
Speaker
I'm, I'm still whining. and And that's, that's, I'm just pissed off at myself, not society, not shitty jobs on indeed. Just like, I'm just like, you are a fucking whiner and you, the hedonic treadmill is stung again. Here you are, buddy. Here you are. I think you're an all in guy, dude. I think that's the, the gap. Like same with this podcast. We're not all in on it yet. We, it's a time commitment. We're religious about making sure we get one out every week.
00:18:29
Speaker
our friends and some people close to us know about it. And I've got actually in the last couple of weeks, some really amazing messages about it. So so but speaking
Action vs. Hesitation in Finding Fulfillment
00:18:37
Speaker
of justification, I do that all the time with this show is the justification is like one old friend told me they loved it. And I'm like, yeah that's all I need.
00:18:46
Speaker
But i but i think i I think you might be an all in guy, like you're not all in on anything. So you see you feel like there's nothing happening. But like, okay, so you're coaching part time, you give it your all, you love it. But you're yeah you're not like, ah you're not fucking a coach in your head um of the guy who's like there every week, maybe.
00:19:05
Speaker
And then this, we're like, all right, you're doing this, but you're not like, maybe you don't feel like it's like you're all in on this probably because of me, but and I'm not either. But like, maybe, maybe that's the issue. It's fine. Something you feel like, all right, I'm all in on this. It's a good point. It's a good point. I think maybe I am all or nothing kind of dude, but it's not a bad thing all the time either. Yeah, but it's also not practical. It's not practical.
00:19:30
Speaker
Well, would it? Okay, if you just narrowed it down, those are the only two things you care about, podcast and coaching. How much more could you do of each? Uh, I don't know what else you want to do with this piece of shit, but well, it's just gro the only other thing to do. The show's perfect. The dialogue's perfect. The idea is perfect. Uh, I've been told by my buddy Mika and someone else that we are philosophers and our message is amazing. Yeah. Uh, so it's growing the audience, which you could say that's your job, Matt, but, but, uh,
Overthinking and Inaction
00:20:02
Speaker
that's it, right? It's sort of marketing the show, which would be an all in approach, but
00:20:07
Speaker
We both are kind of like, do we want to be those people? I'm just saying like, okay, so coaching, what else could you do? Like, could you, how would you go more all in on it? If that, if you thought this might be a good idea. Well, I'm a minimum four nights a week at this point. So I don't know that I can do more. And trying to balance that with your son's schedule too. Yeah, it is balance. It's, it's going to work out, but I'll be in a gym every night. So no, I don't think there's more to do there. Um, this should tell yourself that you are grinding.
00:20:36
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think I'm all right. But I this I haven't found a way to like, get the energy to to develop a direct marketing campaign. Part of it is like some of the shit we say, do we really want that out there in a in a mass audience? And I'm not sure. I mean, I just haven't been sure. ah Along the way. I mean, that is that's at the core of all this for you always has been the need for the silliness, but also the fear of what it might might mean, I think.
00:21:02
Speaker
Everybody has that, right? Well, imagine you get a coaching job and I don't even know if I want one, but imagine you get one and then one of your players finds this motherfucker and you're you're in there like making satirical jokes that they read us as actual feelings that we have and and then then it's like this big uproar.
00:21:25
Speaker
That's what it goes in. That's in the
Pursuing Coaching: Career Goals
00:21:26
Speaker
back of my head. right and i And I just have to say, I don't care. It's a point in time we can delete it from the internet, I guess. We don't need to. I think, but i either there's so this is something we all struggle with. like Even if you're if you're pursuing a creative pursuit, it's like, do how do I work? you know Do I want to be clean or dirty or hard or soft?
00:21:46
Speaker
and mean all That's my end. Hard and soft and soft and soft. But it's all like you always find people that how they broke through is they just said, I don't care. I just have to be myself. and It's like ah if I said something on the show that lo like that fucking you lost the coaching job because it you have to just be like, well, it was worth it. Yeah, you got to get there. And it's so at points I have been. I have been there and and I honestly don't know how much I care.
00:22:19
Speaker
Because I don't think we say I mean, it's clearly satire if you actually read in to how we say things that might be perceived as racist or misogynistic or or politically transgressive, who knows? i'm I'm pretty far away from thinking like that any of this has any bearing on I don't see it. I don't I don't see the risk. Yeah, we're tame. And I well, I just see that somebody cared I'd be I would discount their intelligence and be like, all right, that's on you, my friend, not us.
00:22:48
Speaker
which is not, I'm not saying that's the right thing, but like, you know what I mean? I'd be like, really? Are you, you're, you're bothered by this? Then have fun. Fuck you, Duke University. I'm not taking that head coaching job. Cause you didn't like what I said on, I'm a POS.
Embracing Present Opportunities
00:23:04
Speaker
Exactly. Uh, dude, let's switch to you man. Cause I've done enough whining. Let me, I want to, I want, let's wrap this up. Okay. Okay. Okay. Cause you just brought it up. Not me.
00:23:14
Speaker
Is the like, could you have a longer term goal and coaching that gives like, all right, you're coaching four nights a week, it's not a schedule thing, you feel like that's enough? What is it like, all right, my goal would be like a high school coach, or you you probably would like to coach at Duke, but that's probably not going to happen, right? But like, is what do you have a coaching goal that you can get out of your head because you go, ah I'm on this path?
00:23:35
Speaker
Hey, I watched my son graduate. Then I could try to become a JV basketball coach at a high school or something. Is that even- No, small school head coach. Small school. of meaning What's that mean? Like 3A. Oh yeah, yeah. 3A. 3A head coach, you you feel like you'd be pretty happy.
00:23:55
Speaker
I think so. I mean, 6A just comes with the parental madness. And in 3A you're gonna deal with essentially like, you'll have a couple players and then you'll have, but you know, you're dealing with inexperience and you're trying to mesh people together in a cultural way, which is what I think I'm good at. But like the high pressure 6A powerhouse program, like I don't have a,
00:24:16
Speaker
those Those are programs, right? Yeah, I don't have a desire to do that necessarily. I mean, I could. I could be an assistant in something like that. but And then is that a path that revealed itself? Like, is that a... It's a possibility. Doable. Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:31
Speaker
I have to get in the mix. So a little more, but it's all possible, dude. And, and you know, and and then there are times where like, is this what you want? Is this what you want? Really? Yeah. You want to deal with kids and not make any money. I mean, you were, I mean, that's hard work for little pay. That voice is like, yeah, voice is killer. so But I just wonder, at like, cause, cause otherwise I would say you, you did it, dude. You got out of what the job, you you got out of your job, what you needed to your coaching.
00:25:00
Speaker
and you're having this great ongoing relationship with your son that's like that you can you talk you guys share something that you both love and you talk to him about it. He respects your opinion and you get to watch it. You're not working in a coal mine or some shit where you can't watch him play. ah So remember that.
00:25:18
Speaker
Yeah, no, you're exactly right. And I lose that on certain days. It's not like I'm spinning every day, but I lose it and I go and what are you doing? Yep. And that's the problem. And there you go, America. Now, you know why I am in an insufferable piece of shit.
New Business Venture: Exotic Woods
00:25:36
Speaker
And now it's time. I switch gears. You want to kick it. You want 28 minutes on on land.
00:25:43
Speaker
Well, that's enough Lance, dude. But but you're ah you're making some changes. You're getting into wood. Wood's hot. Tell us about your new endeavor. Well, I have I have some old some friends I've known ah down here for a while that uh, that because of their their friends and my kids I think my daughter actually went to preschool with their kids and they've been in the same school since they're Moving on last week of school for them this week. I'm moving on to eighth grade It goes by so fast Lance. I can't believe it. Oh, but uh, yeah, so they've had a
00:26:19
Speaker
ah ah like an exotic wood butot business, essentially harvesting these like beautiful giant trees. yeah And so what they're doing is they're illegally going into the rainforest and cutting down trees with MAGA hats on. And that can on there's there they're harvesting this beautiful wood and and not not in the rainforest and protected or non whatever.
00:26:45
Speaker
it's It's all good, environmentally, right? but so So they produce these giant, beautiful slabs of wood that you can use as tables and whatever you want. And they're looking for, they're trying to sell it. They have a lot of inventory and they want they want to move as much as they can. Obviously move it up into the US, I'm not considering. So I've started looking at two two opportunities. One, just be sell that chip for them to to anybody in the US, furniture makers, lumber yards.
00:27:12
Speaker
ah people that people that deal and and work with exotic woods. And then the other thing would be actually with some people that I used to work with and I know have money and and have are driven, open up Location like distribution points in the us and and move that shit. Okay. Now. Okay. Good questions. Go ahead. First. Yes. I have a passion for wood. Let's get that out of the way. yeah Okay. You got a passion for wood. Do you have a background in wood? Nope. And what makes you think you can ah build wood expertise and get it done?
00:27:48
Speaker
Well, the ah first of all, I have ah sort of an inside track on this supplier. Like ah if if you were just calling around people in the world and they're like, and we got some wood here in Thailand, Lance, wire us 50 grand and we'll get it to you, you might be a little skeptical, right? So yeah I have them to help me, I guess, like they've they've, their business model has been around for a while and they have they have clients all over the world that are that have a ah sort of a ah business model that works. So no, I don't have the expertise.
00:28:17
Speaker
But yes, I have access to sort of fast track it into an expertise situation. Two, this is something that kind of sells itself if you position it correctly. And three, that's the beauty of this. Like as far as stimulation, I don't know a damn thing about it. And I'm like, sounds fun. Like I spent a year trying to get it acclimated with the cannabis business, which is still out there, but there's some there's some hurdles. And i got to the top ah I got to the top of that pretty quickly.
00:28:47
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like people that could could know a lot about it that would be willing to help me. And I just think I could do it again. Like when I when you first started your first job, you didn't know anything about it, right? Like we all start there. So not not at 48 are about to be 48 with with the family course. But uh,
00:29:06
Speaker
Justify. I just feel like I'm pretty smart Lance. Yeah, so that's good. You're selling me. Now, what about more about the passion for wood? It's funny dude, the lady who who's works in this and she's ah she's a salesperson, she's she's in that family.
00:29:24
Speaker
she's like She's cold calls people and she and she's actually doing it with I don't know what an axe or something like that but she she made a joke like well you know why I'm in this Mac because because I love slabs and I want to work with this other guy and uh and it was like No, I mean, the the idea is it's it is it's a logistics thing. Like you can do it wherever you want. Kind of gives me an excuse to talk to people in the US, go to the US. It's just like, can you can you move shit? Can you talk to people? Can can you do do stuff? And I'm like, yeah that's still better for me than like
00:30:01
Speaker
grinding out 10 hours a day ops and worrying about FDA regulation and and quality systems and people not doing shit. It's- Well, we'll see. Going to a location. Okay. doubt are you You'll see if that actually feels better, but have you made the cold calls? Have you have you done any inquiries? the No, I spent the last like week trying to gather people around to get our distribution point going in St. Louis.
00:30:26
Speaker
So which that exercise has actually allowed me to learn a lot. So when I do go the cold calls, I'll have some idea what's going on, you know? Yeah. So this is interesting because there's a seriousness in your voice that indicates like you're ready to, you're ready to ramp up and figure it out. And I don't know, I can't, I'm trying to read into it to see if it's real. And if like two weeks later, you'll be like, fuck that wood, boy, I'm done. The one experience, the experience of cold calling might be, I mean, there's like leads and there's people that buy the shit. So it's not like I'm calling,
00:31:00
Speaker
It's not like I'm calling you and trying and trying to get you to buy a table, like just straight up, just like, Hey, but there is a little bit of that hustle in it,
Passion vs. Practicality in Careers
00:31:09
Speaker
but I don't mind that. Uh, no, I don't, I like the interesting thing about you have a passion for it. I, we actually, the reason, one of the ways I know that it's a ah good product because we bought a table and it was amazing.
00:31:23
Speaker
So I call that our United Nations table. Giant fucking 7,000 pound piece of wood from with all these like cool grains and all this stuff. Exactly what I like. I could go into my theory about people that buy shit at like Crate and Barrel and stuff like that and how that used to turn me off a lot. But I don't i don't know if I need to get into that. But like I like this idea of sort of finding a unique artistic thing and having some say in it and people people like finding a cool piece of furniture. I always thought that was a lot cooler.
00:31:53
Speaker
than going to a mall to buy some shit. Well, you sound like a politician a little though. I'm just saying. Good. Well, you asked. Yeah, I know, but it sounds very...
00:32:04
Speaker
I mean, the the real answer comes back to what I said earlier is like not really justifying it or looking for the perfect thing is just an opportunity to present so I can work it into my schedule. I trust the people that provided the opportunity.
Physical Labor vs. Office Work Satisfaction
00:32:18
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And I would have a real hard time getting back into like a i commute from six to 730. I sit there all day. The people around me bother me.
00:32:28
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And so i but that that's really it. Yeah, the shoe fits, baby. Right. yeah so That's right. Okay, I feel you. I mean, I haven't gotten any closer to like all the other, the pizza. the and I saw my my my friends and I the other day, we did, a I don't know, fifty four some fifty I made 55 pizzas the other day.
00:32:51
Speaker
54 pizzas and sold them all and i actually made them like I made the dough and the sauce for them But I actually sat there and stretched them Open them up and sauce them and put cook them and box. I did that all day Now is there a so can I ask is there a so any kind of physical soreness? Right based on doing that work like your wrists or finger.
00:33:14
Speaker
No, like, no, the tables I use are a little low, if I was going to make a make up an I actual pizza kitchen, I might come up a little bit on the hype because you kind of kind of bent over a little bit. So maybe like my back might have been sore like the next day a little bit. Yeah, but I will I will I will say I've always liked the feeling of labor.
00:33:33
Speaker
And the feeling you get ah but after you're done of actual late, like as a pile of stuff here. Yes, I agree. And then at the end of the day, there's a pile of stuff over here and so and something's changed. You've either converted that into money or you converted that into something else and your mind is empty and you're relaxed. And you don't get that necessarily go like in an office type situation. Like you don't get that. And I hope.
00:33:59
Speaker
this wood thing might actually have some of that too. I know it's a different, it's not like straight up labor, but there's like a thing and you move it over here and and you don't spend all your goddamn life and energy on unnecessary regulation. and Yeah, could could you pair the two? Could you pair the two here and and get an exotic wood table that's high enough for you to make pizza on? And that'd be the only thing you do, just stop right there.
00:34:25
Speaker
The pizza just stop right there with buying the table for the pizza and maybe not even sell any pizza, but just I got my friend her commission. I did i delivered on that. She sold one table.
00:34:38
Speaker
Cause you're trying to get me to be satisfied with things that I'm not satisfied about. So I'm just fucking with you. You're trying to get me to be unsatisfied. Yeah. No. Okay. So you're going to get into slabs and you're, you got a good plan and you actually sound serious about it. And I think you got some, I'll be curious to see where it goes. And you've been trying to nudge me into getting into the slabs here in the Denver area. And I'm
Wood and Pizza Ventures: Fulfillment
00:34:59
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resisting. I've seen enough evidence to see that people, people are doing pretty well with it. And it's not a, it's not a heavy lift.
00:35:06
Speaker
It is a heavy lift actual physically. These things are real heavy, but it's not a heavy lift and actually I told you the other day a guy like you would be perfect because you can You do it by appointment and you just need a guy that doesn't have much to do It's kind of intelligent as social and and can can sell these things but they sell themselves They're beautiful and like if you get somebody your shop, they're probably making a purchase Which is a big purchase when you think about at your table How many fucking kitchen dining room tables you buy in your life? Not many right? So it's kind of a big deal actually Yeah. Uh, so people buy it and you don't necessarily have to sell it. You have to buy it, but someone needs to be there. So it's, uh, I mean, that people are, you know, table, especially an artistic piece that looks like it's sourced from a unique place. They're people in the U S we'll throw some money around for that stuff. Rightfully. So my opinion. Yeah. And, uh, I think it'll work. Um, but it doesn't matter. Like I kind of like.
00:36:05
Speaker
I like the idea though, like if you look at your 50 year career, maybe you do too, it's like the what do I do now is a negative thing but the positive is like, you know, I've heard every once in a while you run into somebody talking like for 10 years of life they were doing something. Another 10 years they're like, oh yeah, I had the whatever business and another they had something else going on. In a way they seem like a disaster.
00:36:29
Speaker
But in another way, it's like, that's probably a ah fulfilling life bouncing around a little bit, you know, yeah doing a couple of things and failing and succeeding. yeah I'm trying to frame it. I guess I am justifying. well you're you're No, I think maybe you're trying to embrace it as an opportunity, which I think is healthy. or any Yeah, like anything. i
Work-Life Balance and Family
00:36:50
Speaker
want to be I want to get out of the, I mean, besides medical device and quality systems.
00:36:56
Speaker
I want to embrace anything that might be an opportunity without without just rolling. I think we both talked about this without just rolling through the negatives over and over and over again. Right? Like, yeah, I want to do that. I mean, I got to get over that. Like, ah I mean, I don't know if I have to. But like, when I think about this show and trying to grow the audience, I just immediately think of so many negatives.
00:37:22
Speaker
And maybe the timing's not right. if If you're not willing to do that, and we're not willing to do that, then it's just, it's okay. It's okay to get on here and do what we do. I'm fine with that. But why why not pizza? and so Why not do pizza instead? instead Well, i'm looking at I'm looking at this as ah as a way as the the labs as ah as um as a revenue stream.
00:37:47
Speaker
and And I'm starting to frame the pizza thing as a little bit like you like you talked about, you know, you got a couple of good years, couple of seasons left with your son before he goes off to college. yeah And I think the, I'm like, all right, I got one going into sixth grade, one going to eighth grade. These are really good years and they're they're gonna go away. but So I don't know if I need to wait till I'm empty nester. In Costa Rica, a lot of times that never happens.
00:38:12
Speaker
ah But losers, but it might be okay for me to wait a few years. Like I'm pretty young, healthy. And I'm still selling pizzas. so I'm still kind of developing a ah recipe and stuff. So I'm in my head. I'm like, that's my ultimate goal is to have enough money where I can open a really tiny pizzeria and do it whenever I want. Like Yeah. And that's more of a lifestyle job and not necessarily like yeah how you make your fortune. You should hear the way people talk about it. it's it so I don't like that. I sound like I want to sit here and brag, but like it's like people are just like, what are you doing? should It's really good. you should You should do something with that. And then I go, oh yeah? Are you going to run it on on the and from Saturday from 7 AM? m
00:39:00
Speaker
You're afraid of the work. I find good people. No, I love the work, dude. The work is not an issue at all.
Career Expectations vs. Reality
00:39:06
Speaker
Is it? I'm afraid of the, I'm afraid of like, Oh, the best, the best parenting years of my life. I didn't experience them. um Okay. Yeah. And I can see the challenge. Cause I'm so free right now. So on, so fucking unemployed that I'm way more involved in my kids, probably even more than should be healthy. But like, I'm way more in my kids' lives than.
00:39:29
Speaker
Then so I'm like, I'm accustomed to that. And it might not, you know, I'm like, Oh yeah. I remember my dad worked when I was a kid. I come home at five or six o'clock at night. He wasn't, wasn't hanging out with me in the summer, at middle of the day. But like now that's my new normal. That's what I'm comparing. Yeah. Yeah. And that'll change though. They'll get older and not care as much. So I'm saying like, if you look back when, when did you lose your kids land? No, like when did they, when is like, all right, that's not their priorities hanging out with dad. Like.
00:39:59
Speaker
What are the years where you kind of went, all right, now I have some flexibility because they're not thinking about me that much. I don't need to think about, not in a bad way, but like they're not, why is he not available? Like when do you think it changed?
00:40:09
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ah
00:40:12
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freshman and sophomore year probably mostly. 14. 15 and then definitely when they drive and it's lights out boy. That doesn't happen here. Yeah so you got you're into slabs and that's gonna be what you're focused on. We have some other ideas too that my friend St. Louis might not be a straight slab play but Okay. Yeah. Okay. No reveal here. Okay. Got to tune in a few weeks listeners. But you seem excited and like maybe even weeks ago though, you were spit, you were in that spin or it's kind of like, ah, what do I do? Yeah. But you seem like you've locked in and you got, you got something. Put your eyes on buddy. I, my problem though, dude, is I get, I'll get,
00:41:00
Speaker
I'll get excited about something like quickly. I'll get excited quickly and I'll de-excite. Is that a word? ah I'll gear down pretty quickly too. So just know listeners and Lance, I'm at the peak right now. My energy's good on this.
Taking Steps Toward New Ventures
00:41:17
Speaker
I did, but I did, I did, maybe part of the reason I'm happy is like, I don't know how many things you have out there pending or ideas of what you could do, whether it be become a substitute teacher are people that are like, yeah, I should do this. I should do this. I know I should do this, but I don't know why, but I don't want to. And I just woke up Mondays after Thanksgiving and I reached out to actually an old, an old boss. It was like, all right, do you want to deal with the devil? Not him, but just the idea like I'm going to try, I'm actually going to start to pursue something.
00:41:50
Speaker
no Because I know with him, like if I, the thing with him, because I had, I had reached out to so many people about weed and got really far on that and and had like what I would call like, you know, real business meetings. But I never, I always had an out because I would, I would have to drive that forward, right? Like I would have to move it. They would, they would help me if I, if I reach out to him or if the, if a few things happen, they'll come on board. With this guy, I know that he, I know that I planted the seed as almost like I can't turn him back now because he's he's just one of those guys. It's like it's kind of like what you're saying. Can't turn it off. So now he's got this idea in his head of how do we sell this shit? and He's not going to stop. Yeah, I know. He's going to hold me accountable. There you go. And so part of that happiness I have is like, I actually took a step on something. Yeah, it's so it it's so hard for me to take a step on anything. So right now or ever.
00:42:49
Speaker
a lot of the times. Because I know, because nothing is nothing is so pure, and so purely good that you're that you can't find reasons for it to not be good. Right? you So like, you start to go, ah this is why I should I mean, it's kind of why you were saying now you got these thoughts, like, why I shouldn't do this, right? Like, or whatever, like these things come in your head.
00:43:08
Speaker
But is that your problem? I mean, I know my problem is overthinking, but is yours more of like, nah, I just would prefer a mellow life where I go to the fruit stand and then go surf. And I'm just down with that. I wouldn't, nobody would ever be able to talk me into thinking that was a shitty life. All right. Don't you feel like yeah you're move you're more on that end? Yeah. Yeah. But I mean,
00:43:33
Speaker
ah Yeah, I don't know. There's this noise, noise comes up in my head of
Complexity of Career Decisions
00:43:37
Speaker
stuff. I mean, even like this whole, what I just talked to you about, knowing that this, there's somebody out there that probably has the money and would hold me accountable. Like it was an easy decision for me to to to make that call. Right. And it, and it makes so much sense.
00:43:52
Speaker
But you're driven by making money and not necessarily purpose and meaning. youre You're not driven by purpose and meaning as much as from what I can tell. Like you would find plenty of meaning as this basically a part-time or semi full-time surfer.
00:44:10
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not out there. Yeah. So you're driven by i think having a financial opportunity. I don't know. Yeah. Maybe pizza gives you meaning just the labor and the people appreciate the product. You don't know how to do it, right? Like if I became a full-time surfer or you became a full-time coach, you you assume that gives you some purpose, but you don't, you don't really know until you do it.
00:44:31
Speaker
Yeah, but uh, okay. Yeah full-time surfer fun But also dude i'm in i've said i'm in a upward swing of learning on that That might end at some point. Yeah, just like it kind of ended on snowboarding for me. Like I just I was got good Pretty good. Not great. And then that was it. That's where I was going and I got there and I wasn't going anywhere else. Yeah. You can still enjoy it and appreciate it, but yeah, you're not as enthralled. That's probably with anything.
00:45:01
Speaker
and And you're going to do that with wood and hopefully you're going to sell a bunch of these slabbings. I'm just coming up with different names for them. Uh, yeah, that that that's, that's good, man. I'm glad you're moving forward though. I thought the weed, the weed thing really quick had too much regulatory risk for me as a business expert. Uh, no, I, it just seemed like it would be harder to pull off. Right. This one, this one, I'm not on that by the way, I'm just, I need, okay, dog, my bad.
00:45:28
Speaker
No, you're right about the, like the more I got in the weeds on that one, I'm like, this is a fucking medical device. What am I doing? Like the regulations insane, the the quality standards are insane. The only thing cool about it is that it's weed, where you're like, ah um um I'm in the weed business. yeah But- Or not, but yeah, okay. You could be in the weed business without all that shit, I've learned. Okay, so do you think there's people who wish you would fail at the wood so that you could get to pizza making? No, nobody nobody knows about it. Just you and and now he's know now everyone. Everyone in America, in North America, South America, everywhere. I don i mean, i'm making i make I might be overblowing the pizza. It's not like I have have people yelling at me from car. Like I walked down the street and people are like, there he is pizza maker. It's just when I do these events in the, in this neighborhood with my friends and we're kind of sitting there, people are always like saying really nice things about it. Yeah. But I will say like back to the thing, are you going to get bored at that? The,
00:46:40
Speaker
Yeah, I could. I mean, I could run out of steam on making pizza, even if it was successful, and
Reflecting on Past Career Choices
00:46:44
Speaker
like a business. But I'll say though, to make for one dude to make over 50 pizzas, it's actually a lot. I don't know if it sounds like a lot, but it's a lot of it's a lot of good work for one day needing. Yeah. Yeah. So the fact that I was still kind of excited about at the end of that is it says something. Yeah.
00:47:05
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So I think that's like a fun thing, like if you tie it, sorry, but if you tie it to a financial thing, then like, Oh, does that lose its luster? Cause now it's a necessity. It's got to work right now. I made make an extra 300 bucks or something like that. It's great. It's just extra money, but it's not, I'm not, I don't need it to run my life. Yeah. That was my question. Uh, cause necessity drives action. Like you you need to make, you need to make some money, right? At this point. And, uh,
00:47:32
Speaker
your whatever your little buyout has dissipated. Let's go Bitcoin. Yeah, I'll be curious though what happens with the wood thing. Buy curious is right for you bro.
00:47:48
Speaker
ah Yeah, eric that's one that you will never get a coaching gig because that way I dropped that in the show dude There it is You know, you're curious about you have a doubt about the wood that I don't have a doubt falling back in the trap with just not dealing with something that I really care about ah No, it's not really so No, I teach just actually think it's logical. i think I'm curious to see how it turns out in the sense of like will you be able to sustain the interest and excitement and like you're going to have to say goodbye to some things if you get this up and running. like
00:48:26
Speaker
the three quarter day surf expedition or full day, it's probably gonna be harder if you're actually taking meetings and doing things. Eventually, when you have something built that could come back, and that's that's potentially exciting, but to get it off the ground and and make the money, you're gonna have to do it, and then you know we'll see. That's good. And if you if i if it's if it's crushing, then that always helps to have a little bit of flow to like move it, move yourself in a way that like, Oh, maybe I have a, maybe I have a small place at the beach. So I drive down there, work for five hours, serve.
00:49:06
Speaker
Yeah. Work, have an internet connection. Yep. Once you, once you have that and we, we built that inner reality we built that into our corporate careers. It's not like we could do that initially. Nobody was going to let us get away with that. But, uh, it's a nice place to be. It's also, you know, times you get comfortable, you get bored. So it'll be interesting to see where this goes. Like music I will say this, which
Satisfaction in Diverse Career Paths
00:49:31
Speaker
you might be interested to hear, like the,
00:49:34
Speaker
the The little fantasy about, okay, you are helping me fire this up in Denver, somebody is, and I'm doing it in St. Louis, is like and then my kids are starting to get older, so I have some more flexibility. What if I was traveling up there and doing ah doing a set every once in a while? So the full circle thing is the boy that was left in me. When I stopped doing stand-up, it's part of the equation. that's There you go. Just layering on all the fantasies. Just layer them. Wow, you could, someone, some mental health worker might go, dude, the whole, your whole thing is just you, you're not, you're trying, you're secretly trying to get back to to that standup thing that you, that's why you're doing this little fucking podcast. Why you're always looking for opportunities for an excuse to travel to the US. Yeah. Cause you're just trying to do that. And, uh, If they had, they don't have, there's no humor in Costa Rica, so they can't do it here. So even watching someone smile here, it's like, it's like finding a unicorn. Yeah. And I mean, they're still playing. ah There we go. Here I am. Rock me like a hurricane and a scorpion city. ever like a scorpion too there there There's a couple of, there's, yeah, Huey Lewis, Creedence Clearwater. Uh,
00:50:56
Speaker
The guy that's saying, never gonna get too low, never gonna. That guy oh is, I'm surprised he's not on the $20 bill here. He's so famous. Robert Palmer? Who is that guy? No, no, no, no. Way worse. Like way worse, dude. Come on. So too shy to say.
00:51:16
Speaker
ah that guy. ah there Those are those are still big here. You're right. So they're not ready for my humor. um yeah and not My I'm just saying i'm I'm being sarcastic like people like why don't you just fucking do stand up here. But and yeah, well, I think that the broader issue of this whole thing is it's very tough. Now we're gonna give never gonna give I'm gonna do that between each sentence as you try to get this out, all right? I think for most of us in life, if you don't have a choice, that's one thing. You get up, you're trapped in a life where you've got to bring in X amount of dollars to just survive. I'm not gonna say that's freeing. I think that's super suffocating. But for many of us, finding that sweet spot that's sustaining is really hard if not impossible throughout life. Yeah, a whole percentage of people found that.
00:52:09
Speaker
Yeah, not many. I mean, i've just everybody I've talked to has these loads. Steven Tyler, he found it. Well, he is also a drug addict alcoholic too, right? So maybe not. Yeah.
Passion vs. Financial Stability: A Struggle
00:52:20
Speaker
ive And I think that's the bigger issue that you're contending with in a different way. And I'm contending with, and, uh, it's sad. It's more sad on my side, I think, because I do have the resources to probably be happy and, you know, with whatever I'm doing. And for the most part, I think I do. Okay. But, uh, it's just not what I would have thought. Like you thought it'd be like just 24 hours of bliss all the time. Stress free. Yeah. Maybe not any.
00:52:50
Speaker
Any anxiety infiltrating me or just just more at peace more often. And it just doesn't work out that way. Because you are who you are no matter of the context. And like you're gonna figure out.
00:53:03
Speaker
Like if you're excitable at the outset of most things and then it wanes, that's going to happen with the wood. You're going to have to figure out how to get through that and what drives you. I hope it works pretty quickly. Yeah, that would help. And but people, I mean, I know anybody listening to this has their ups and downs or their doubts. And like it's a tough thing in life, especially when people tie their identity to work or There's this desperation for passion. Like I got to be passionate about it, which is total bullshit way to approach life. Like necessity kind of drives action. And then that drives purpose over time. I'm more than like, I just love taking care of animals. I'm going to be a vet. Oh. And then you realize that life is horrid. Well, then you realize you're actually an admin.
Coping with Career Uncertainties
00:53:49
Speaker
Like you're running a vet.
00:53:50
Speaker
The shop is what happens, right? like You're running a business. and Yeah, it is. And it's those are tough businesses, actually. So we're all struggling. That's the message. Everybody out there is a piece of shit when it comes to career, what they do to find meaning and purpose. Maybe I should just go just back to church.
00:54:08
Speaker
yeah Okay. and Okay. Maybe I should just serve the homeless. I just donated money to some different organizations. That didn't make me feel good at all. I just fucking just slapped it on and electronically. Bam, bam, bam. Yeah. but Well, all I can say is we know the game. I'm going to play it.
00:54:27
Speaker
ah what What would you find in church? Would it be literally just like ah ah some sort of Hail Mary like in the football sense of throwing up and be like just fucking some whatever is out there help me fucking get over myself or like tell tell me my calling like what is it you just want to get out of your own head or you want to find this giant purpose for the second half of your life?
00:54:54
Speaker
I don't know, I really don't, both. That's my problem is like to find the giant purpose. is first off, very few people get that, but you just have to be cognizant of how you want to spend your time too. And ah if you can piece that together, or if I can piece that together, I think I'll be really content. I think if you get that going where money some money's coming in and it's sustainable, like with your family, you'll probably be content. It just won't last is what I'm
00:55:27
Speaker
You know, it's always a point in time and we have to move and change. And that change cycle is the heart hard part. It's like can be depressing and depending on whether you're like a thinker or you're just somebody like, okay, here I go.
Personal Goals and Success Amidst Pressures
00:55:39
Speaker
Next thing I gotta do one foot in front of the other, buddy. If you're that guy, that guy's a pimp.
00:55:43
Speaker
people like me are more of like, ah what? Okay, so really, I'm gonna do this. And and and and then they're gonna probably make me do this and then I'm gonna have to deal with that kind of stuff. Oh, no. Oh, gosh. Oh, boy. But I should do it. You know, I really should fucking do it because that's what I said I wanted to do. Oh, but blah but what if they do? And then ah that's me. And yeah I know other people are that way. And I wish I was more of a- It makes sense to him about that way, dude, because we're talking about that on a Wednesday afternoon at Whatever, like if we weren't this way, we probably wouldn't be talking to each other. No, we'd be taking meetings like, slap, how many you want? We'd be texting each other, talking about making fun of somebody in our meeting. Or just like, I fucking crushed today, Lance. I sold 27 slabs. You doubt the slabs, bro. You doubt. I don't doubt. I don't doubt. The only thing I'm worried about, dude, is the old American adage of, this is actually what's interesting about you is because we have,
00:56:41
Speaker
We have the idea in the US that you're you're just a big ass paycheck away from everything being all right. It's like oh if I had five male dude, hot full contact drinking on the beach and fuck everyone and life would be dandy. like So I'm a little worried about, I'm a little worried about we hit this home run with the slabs.
00:57:03
Speaker
I'm not worried about it, but I don't want to get too, like you're talking about what you need. Like where I'm at right now is a good, it's kind of a good place. Cause it's like, yeah, I need some money. I'm not dying, but but I need some money. I need a plan. And that's like justifiable. Then when the next level is like, I'm going to fucking crush it. So I get my 10 million and then I don't have to worry about anything. And that really, that attitude is like, yeah, well, you know what? I mean, i mean you went from doing a startup.
00:57:30
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You went from T ball to fucking the major leagues in two seconds.
Financial Goals vs. Personal Satisfaction
00:57:34
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Right. I'm just making a little money and then I'm 10 mil. Well, whatever the, whatever the, the like, if you yeah you go, I want to make a couple, I can make a couple of hundred thousand a year out of this and, and still have a she what a super flexible life down here in tropical paradise.
00:57:51
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That's great, right? Yeah. That's awesome. It might be huge. But the next level that everyone gets into, what you're saying, that were we're in agreement. But the next level is like, I'm going to hit a home run, and then everything's over. Because I got this big stack of money, and I'm retiring, I can do whatever I want. That's the US attitude, right? i got That's how you get to the finish line.
00:58:11
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That's the US attitude, but the guy that, no, well, it doesn't work because the guy that hits the home run is always coming back and saying things like, dude, I just got to, I got to get back into it and score touchdowns, bro. I just, I just need to score touchdowns. I need to, you know what I mean? I got to get back out there. That that's, that's the mindset of the US is it's never, ever enough.
00:58:28
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I know I'm susceptible to that. And so there's two sides. I think that's in your face, dude. That's like what's in your face right now a little bit, right? It's totally in your face. It's like the one side of it is the fantasy is all so much bigger than it probably needs to be in the US in terms of like what you're saying, the 10 million hit is like, why is that your end goal? That's absurd. That's an absurd amount of money. Access.
00:58:53
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Yeah, and like even make trying you're talking about making 200 if you're making 200 in Costa Rica, I mean, that's pretty pretty phenomenal. Is it not for probably in the US? No, i'm I'm just saying that that's exactly what I'm saying is like you people might be like, well, that's not the end get goal. It's like, alright, so I have this steady mass of income coming in. I have all my flexibility.
00:59:16
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It's like, just shut up, be happy about it. That's that's it. you don't if That's not the 10 million is not the goal. It's like the goal is like to sustain what you already have. So that's why I'm trying to look at it. Yes. That's a good way to look at it. Yeah. Well, once again, we've solved no problems and helped no one. It's a bit of a, a bit of a message is like you and I can't, I might this week, I sound like I have like have about being happy where you are. And right now I am.
00:59:44
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ah And then like It's all it's funny because it's not It's not a free. It's like it seems like a freedom or financial thing you have both but it didn't solve the issue I've got neither and For some reason I'm happy like it's kind of it's kind of funny right today Yeah, just that this snapshot in time is like yeah it should be the other way around. I should be in a goddamn panic.
01:00:07
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And you should be fucking stroking it and whistling Dixie. It's
The Role of Gratitude in Fulfillment
01:00:15
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true. And that that that day will come where we'll we'll pull the switcheroo in terms of our mental state. But all right. Well, hopefully we can both we can both link up in an homosexual way where we're both like super happy with where we're at in life together at the exact same time.
01:00:32
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scissoring. Why don't you say something more derogatory to close this out so I can never get a coaching job? Well, okay, Lance, I got I have an idea as far as racially profiling what your little two way three a high school is going to be.
01:00:49
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And I get the idea that you don't wanna coach minorities. Is that is that why you wanna go to one of those lower level schools in like a rural situation or something like that? No, that's not true. Rules like 1A, 2A. No. These are smaller city schools, okay? I like that. You set it straight. I gave you the opportunity to to to set it straight. I'm gonna see if I can get my brother. I don't know if he's still a listener, but if he can, maybe he can get you straightened out. I can't, dude. I think that's a 3A. You could help some kids that need help, dude.
01:01:19
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No, fuck Kent. No, aren't you a facilities guy, bro? Yeah top-notch facilities account. No, I'm not gonna work with those kids. No offense You know, it's great. By the way talking about facilities You talk about what kind of nonsense you guys are dealing with up there if I went now you should go to camp The facilities are good. They have a their gym as hardwood floors that That might be something here where I've said before, it's like they got both of their rims are level and they and the floor they have a floor that's hardwood. Let's check, that gym's amazing. Why you guys are up there, fucking depressed. and that That Heritage High School gym would be the nicest gym in this country and like without yeah any doubt.
01:02:01
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Well, and that's a different episode, but just the extraordinary choice and resource that we have up here. It's not, it doesn't make you happier. Like I see yeah the contrast between what you're doing, your wind sprints on versus what I'm doing. I'm on this, like.
01:02:16
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Probably. It looks like an NFL training camp. A million dollar like turf complex. Just a public park, right? Yeah. And you're on a, like this pothole, like just was flooded field with half dirt and some grass and it all works. I'm just waiting to blow out my ankle like every step. Yeah. So, I mean, that's part of the issue here is some of us like myself need to have some gratitude for everything you have. Oh, we got there. That's the key word and everything.
01:02:45
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Yeah, always. So I hear. Always. Mattitude, bro. Say it five times and then sing your... Oh, there you go. Say it five times. That's all I was trying to do was get you to sing it the whole show, but then you just went with a more, like, better sound.
01:03:00
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ha that's That's... Can you come out with that next week, do the whole song for our listeners? um Maybe. why follow summer squad I don't know the words.
01:03:16
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down to goy park You were all in on scorpions. Don't act like you weren't. That song. I can't get it right. Maybe one of them is probably one of the biggest songs of all time too.
01:03:32
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with the wall and everything, like right place, but just like GNR's appetite, right band, the right time, the right attitude. It was right when it hit that dude, the Berlin Wall. They heard Reagan go, Gorbachev, tear down that wall. Tear down that wall. and they were like yeah but yeah Hey, can you come off a tease me, please me for a second, and let's write a ballot that's gonna take over the world.
01:03:59
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That's what happened. Yeah, scorpions. Yeah, good stuff. All right, let's say goodbye. This will be an editing nightmare. Good luck, people. i i yeah Good luck in your endeavors. i hope this I hope it keeps up for me. I hope you come come up with me on this euphoria that I'm experiencing right now, buddy. Good luck with that. You want me to get into slabs just to drop my cash and do the work so you can surf. I see right through your games.
01:04:27
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See right through now. right I got you. I ain't iin't gonna lie, bro. I ain't gonna lie. Make it real and you can convince a risk adverse skeptic like myself. Well, just remember what I'm trying to do. You already have, even though you you don't have an ocean close to you, but you could surf every fucking day. You won, dude. Remember that. Yeah. All right. All right, bro. Keep it real. All right.
01:04:55
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never la laki who ha wow