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Episode 36: Death Bed: The Bed That Eats featuring Josef Wakeman

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Chris and Greg are joined by special guest Josef Wakeman to talk about the lost and rediscovered classic, Death Bed: The Bed That Eats! Equal parts fairy tale and gore picture, Death Bed: The Bed That Eats is a true American original. It's the most beautiful film you'll ever see that features a bed that eats people and this is the best podcast you'll ever hear about it. That's a two-fer guarantee, so tune in!

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Introduction to Hosts and Podcast

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Speaker
Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to your favorite bad movie podcast. The only podcast that's brave enough to ask the question, if this movie's so bad, why do you like it so much? We're your hosts. My name is Chris Anderson. And with me as always, I have the Diane to my Sharon, Mr. Greg Bossy. How are you, Greg? I'm doing all right. How are you, sir? I'm doing not bad, not okay bad.

Guest Introduction: Joe Wakeman

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Speaker
Okay. Okay.
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Speaker
I'd be doing better if my lovely wife, Anna, was here, but unfortunately they we're not feeling up to it this week. ah But we do have with us a very special guest. You might know him as a ah director, as a professor, as a man of the arts, as our new friend, Mr. Joe Wakeman. Joe, thanks for coming on. Hello, Chris. I'm excited to be here. I can tell.
00:01:37
Speaker
Now you chose... No, no

Summary of 'Deathbed the Bed That Eats'

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no, no. I'm sorry. I'm just busted, Chaps. So you chose for our movie this week, ah you chose Deathbed the Bed That Eats, right? That is correct. I love Deathbed the Bed That Eats.
00:01:58
Speaker
Boy, I can understand why this was a great one. Uh, listeners, if you have not seen death bed, the bed that eats, here's just a brief summary to hold in your mind.
00:02:18
Speaker
There's a bed that eats. Yeah. I think that's, I think that's pretty, that's a pretty good summation of the proceedings.
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Yeah, that's the that's the biggest thing. Yeah. So the rest the rest is just, you know, details. It's chicken fat. Yeah. Yeah.

Joe's Discovery of 'Deathbed'

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The movie that tells you the whole story and in the in the title, you know, but still contains so many surprises. Oh, it's a ton of surprises. Endless. So, Joe, how did you come across Deathbed, the bed that eats?
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Speaker
ah I think I first encountered the title when I was um probably like an older teenager posting on movie nerd forums. And I remember there was a thread on one of these forums I was a member of that was like,
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Speaker
uh, people would post a still from a films, uh, without a title. And you'd have to, you had to guess the, uh, the title of of films from the stills and people would willfully choose pretty obscure flicks to, um, you know, stump everybody and try to win the game. Um, yeah but one of the stills was, um, you know, and i I don't want to reveal too much, but I'll just say it was from the Pepto Bismol scene. Um,
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Speaker
and then seeing that still plus seeing the title, I was like, what is this movie?

Chris's Experience with 'Deathbed'

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And then it was yeah you a couple of years and you know maybe two or three years later, I encountered the the DVD at Kim's video and that was an instant purchase. So well fantastic. I also came to this one by Kim's video back when I worked there. I remember when it first came out on DVD. And obviously when you see the title, it's so intriguing.
00:04:07
Speaker
No, it's so evocative and that, you know, you you have to at least check it out. But I don't think I think I watched it at work. And this is not one that I think you can watch distracted. This is not dishwashing TV. And so I don't think I gave it its due appreciation for a while.

Greg's Initial Impression of 'Deathbed'

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ah Then they the only other time I ever thought about it was that there was a ah ah Twitter user who had the handle uh lesbian death bed the bed that eats pussy and i thought about that a lot because that's a really good show credit to that person yeah wow that is the best but re-watching it this time i i found that there was a lot more to it than i remembered so i was very excited and i enjoyed it a lot greg uh had you seen this one before
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Speaker
No, I had no idea what this was. It was one of those like checking a few days before we have to record and be like, what am I watching? Like death bed, the bed that eats. Okay. Let's see what this is. I remember thinking like, I wonder if I'll be able to find this one easily or not. And it was very easy to find actually. It's developed a cult following for sure. And there's, ah there's a good reason why.
00:05:24
Speaker
Well, I think a big reason why Deathbed, The Bed That Eats became the film that it is has to do with how it got made. Okay. We'll talk about that a little bit in the the context portion of the show. Did you see that seamless transition? That's very nice. Very strong.
00:06:23
Speaker
Now I will say that there's a good amount of death bed, the bed that eats scholarship out there that I didn't really have access to. So, but if you want to know more about death bed, the bed that eats, there is more out there, but I'll just give you the big picture of what I was able to find without spending any money.

Behind the Scenes of 'Deathbed'

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Death bed, the bed that eats came out in 1977. The director, George Berry,
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ah Now, George Berry was born in Pontiac, Michigan in 1949, but lived most of his life and ultimately died in Royal Oak, Michigan in 2022. Greg, you're a Michiganer. Is that close to you on the mitten? No, it's actually on the other side of the state, but still you hear Pontiac and I think way to go Michigan. You know what I mean? Let's go Michigander. All right. Yeah, this is going to be a ah local void made good. and Very nice. Very nice. I had no idea.
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Speaker
He attended Wayne State University in the late sixties, joining the ranks of notable alumni, Ernie Hudson, Tom Sizemore, and wow S. Epitha Murchison, among many others. Wow. It's quite a heritage. Go Wayne State. Yeah. Uh, after graduation, like many young men, he wasn't quite sure what to do next with his life, but he decided he wanted to make a movie.
00:07:42
Speaker
He was able to scrape together $10,000 by 1972, $77,000 in today's money. And he began filming. He initially conceived of the film as more of a fairy tale, but leaned more to the horror aspects of the movie as filming progressed. Unfortunately, the budget also changed over the course of the filming, tripling up to $30,000.
00:08:09
Speaker
Now, uh, the film was mostly shot in Detroit and the nearby suburbs of Highland park and Birmingham, or perhaps Birmingham. Uh, they also, uh, shot in the historic Garwood mansion on gray Haven Island, which served as a rock and roll commune acts like van Morrison, Sly and the family stone, the almond brothers and Alice Cooper all hung out, played and crashed there.
00:08:37
Speaker
okay Until ah they eventually got busted, raided, and there was 25 pounds of pot on the premises. yeah And that's where we got everybody kicked out. That left it open to be used as a location for filming death bed. The bed that eats. Was the death bed already there? They had to build that for the movie.
00:08:59
Speaker
The death bed was built. Uh, it was built by a man named jock Davis. Okay. He'll come up later. Uh, but yeah, no, this bed was built to purpose and I thought the bed looked great. What did you guys think? yeah No, it was a good looking bed. It seemed very thin to me. Oh, it's unforgettable. I think it's one of the best bed characters in a film.
00:09:24
Speaker
Yeah, it's true. I mean, yeah, you've got this, you've got, uh, there's probably something in Beauty and the Beast, but the bed's going to be a minor character. He certainly didn't have a speaking bowl. No. Uh, but I think, yeah, I thought the bed had a great silhouette and even though the back was clearly just matte black painted plywood, I think the overall image of it was very solid and it was a strong yeah design. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
00:09:51
Speaker
Now, unfortunately, shooting ate up the entire budget, leaving nothing for post-production. Over the next five years, Barry would pay for bits and bobs of post-production, you know, some editing time here, yeah, syncing up some sound there. And he finally finished a cut of the film in 1977.
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Unfortunately, theatrical

George Barry's Cult Discovery

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distributors were not interested. What? He did. I know. takes all types. Uh, he did eventually find a distributor that would be willing to put deathbed on VHS in the UK, but they would only pay him $1,000 for it. And it needed to have credits, which he did not have at that time. In order to get those credits added onto the film, that would cost him another $3,000. So he ended up just not distributing the film. Okay. That's a shame. Yeah.
00:10:49
Speaker
But that would be the shame if that was the end of the tale, Greg. It's true. It's true. There's so much more. George Barry retired from filmmaking and opened up an antique bookstore called Barry George books and didn't think much about deathbed until around 2001. That's when he found out that someone from that VHS distributor hung onto a copy of deathbed, the bed that eats, and they ended up, uh, being bootlegged.
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He found a forum post on a website called Scarlet Street.
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And after he found out that it had developed this sort of cult following, he ended up trying to get it distributed again and there was a market for it. ah It led to its theatrical premiere 26 years after its completion at the San Francisco Independent Film Festival.
00:11:43
Speaker
with completed credits and new music that he liked much more than the music he originally had. no That music was made in 2000. And so it's the only piece that's like not and I guess the some of the credits, but the rest of his all contemporary with when it was shot. Wow. So curious about the old music. Yeah, I bet you can find it somewhere. ah But I have the new music as our closing credit. So if you want to hear that listeners stick around.
00:12:11
Speaker
Uh, that same year was also released on DVD and became ah readily available for the masses in the United States for the first time. And it was in part popularized. Oh, nice a beautiful copy right there. Uh,
00:12:26
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It became even more popular after ah Patton Oswalt made a joke about it in a stand-up special ah that was an album called Werewolves and Lollipops, okay ah where he said, you know, something to the effect of, I can't get a script made, but somebody made Deathbed the bed that eats.
00:12:45
Speaker
Yeah, obviously, some tell Patton, you should just make deathbed the bed that eats that he just made it himself. He didn't have to yeah to somebody else. But I guess that would sort of just undercut the premise of the joke. Now, you might ask yourself, how did George Barry feel about all of this, a film that he worked on for the better part of his 20s becoming a so bad, it's good cult classic.

George Barry's Reflections

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Well, in 2011, George Berry had retired from his bookstore in part due to heart related health problems. And he was interviewed by Brett Colwood for the Detroit Metro Times. And he said, and I quote, when I got sick, I don't know where my mind would be if I didn't have some positive things to think about. The most positive thing is my kids and also the movie, which came out at a great time in that respect.
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Speaker
Gave me something else to think about, and that was good. I observed the discovery of the film like a dream. I feel sometimes like I'm not part of it. Like I didn't make it, and I just came across it. I'm pleasantly disassociated with it. I'm glad that some people like the movie, and I don't mind if some people laugh and they think it's terrible. That's fine too. I can come up with lots of different reasons why people wouldn't like deathbed. Isn't that lovely?
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He's very nice. he's like a nice guy Yeah. I think he had a good life. Hey, he did this fun thing in his twenties and he worked real hard on it. And eventually some, you know, this is a happy story. Yeah. Now other horror films of 1977. Okay. The hills have eyes. All right. That's a classic in its way. A very different picture from. Yeah.
00:14:36
Speaker
Maybe it has a little more in common with Suspiria also that year. Okay. Less so with Rabid or Martin or Hausu or Orca. Hausu has a piano that eats. That's true. Yeah. It does have a similar dream like quality to Hausu. That might be the one that has most in common. not very Well Orca has a whale that eats.
00:15:04
Speaker
They had something. I'm sure um the Incredible Melting Man has a similarly accurate title. Yeah, let's see the car also. Then you've also got Exorcist to the heretic. Yeah, just watch that recently. I've been mean. Is that Borman? Yeah, it's so insane. I've heard what i you ever seen it's so bonkers. It's just bonkers. OK, OK, I will have to track that one down.
00:15:35
Speaker
And also that year in a similar demonic vein, you have Petey Wheatstraw, the devil's son-in-law. Okay? I haven't seen that. You seen Petey Wheatstraw? No, I should look that one up. I think I have.
00:15:51
Speaker
It has its ups and downs. no There's always something, you feel bad being a white person watching a Rudy Ray Moore movie sometimes. It feels like this isn't meant for me. Yeah, yeah. um Chris, ah while we're still in the context segment, I have a question. You mentioned that there was there was further deathbed scholarship that one could subscribe to. Where where where might that be found?
00:16:15
Speaker
i well I imagine there was at least going to be some bonus features on that DVD that I haven't checked out. Oh, there's ah there's a little ah video of George Barry talking. I checked it out. Yeah, I saw a lot of like blog posts that were written and it's a lot of them had like the same sort of information. So it was hard, difficult to sift through them. But a lot of things seem to be pointing at some other er text. I have a very strong feeling there's something out there somewhere.
00:16:42
Speaker
I'm not sure what, but I feel like the definitive work of deathbed scholarship has been written at this point. I'm just not sure what it is, but I just i got that vibe from my research. I hope someone wrote a dissertation on it or something, but got to check the academic papers. It's worthy of study for sure. It's a rich text.
00:17:07
Speaker
ah So why don't we examine that text directly yeah and ah get into the plot as I transition with the plot bumper.
00:18:01
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So we open on black with the sound of something crunching on like an apple or a carrot. Genius. too many No, it it instantly evokes eating. oh yeah My only complaint was that the deathbed definitely does have no mix mechanism for chewing. So it is a bit of a misdirect.
00:18:24
Speaker
Uh, but still it, it definitely evokes something's going to be eating. no It's probably going to be the death bed. Also, the title is breakfast. Yes. We do see on the screen breakfast. Uh, this is going to be the first of four

Movie's Structure and Narration

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segments of the film. I love that it's broken up into chapters. It makes it so classy and fantastical.
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Um, yeah, that's a for know it reminds me of like a Peter Greenaway movie. It's so fast. It opens in a large gray brick room with only three salient features, a fireplace, a very large four post bed with red velvet bedding and a black and white painting of that same bed.
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Hidden behind the painting is the painter who explains that he has been trapped there for 60 years. He will serve as our narrator and he's based on the artist Aubrey Beardsley.
00:19:24
Speaker
Aubrey Beardsley? Yeah, Aubrey Beardsley. His work is great. he's a He was ah a... Art Nouveau illustrator. Art Nouveau. Oh, okay. He wasn't a painter, but it's fine. Yeah, yeah. He did the original illustrations for Oscar Wilde's Salome. It's a very random... Interesting. Very strange. Presence of this character. Yeah, but once again, sort of classes it up. like it Much like Oscar Wilde, its feet are in the gutters, but its eyes are in the stars. Yeah. And it's hands. where And i I also thought that the actor that they had playing Aubrey Beardsley who never spoke all his dialogue was narrated. It could have been a completely different guy. Yeah. But he was just sort of had very strong backlighting the whole time. And he just seemed to be this sort of lounging pretty boy wearing a bunch of rings. And it was just I don't know. There's something very glamorous about it.
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Yeah, he's like, sure, i' David Bowie. Yeah, yeah. Just squatting behind the painting. Does not stand for the entire film is just sitting in a three foot tall box. ah But he's great. ah So we see a young couple wandering around the grounds of what appears to be some sort of abandoned property or mansion.
00:20:46
Speaker
Uh, they say that they've walked for several hours and the gals seem sort of spooked out by their eerie surroundings. The dude just wants to do the nasty. He does not care. So they try to find an entrance to this abandoned mansion, but the bed keeps on using telekinesis to latch doors, funneling them towards its layer. Uh, the two of them make, Oh, I'm sorry. I feel like this is like a kind of a strange classic 70s setup where it's like we see a man and a woman and they're just going to go to in abandoned place to have sex. Yeah, people love having sex in abandoned places. Yeah, it's very strange. It's a weird trope. It's like, you know, that spooky castle. Let's go there and have sex or we won't plan it. We'll just be near it and think to ourselves, well, we could shelter in here and then have some sex. It's it's dangerous. The greatest aphrodisiac. It's true in many ways. They picked a very poor bed to to to woo in, unfortunately.
00:21:45
Speaker
It's true. Hindsight's 2020, though. But a very inviting one. It's true also. I mean, if you're looking to have sex in an abandoned mansion and you see that bed, you're like, well, we don't need to. count yeah Yeah, obviously, this is the place. Like I can understand why they got right to it once they saw it, you know. Yeah, they're like, but we're not going to find a better sex bed than this in the abandoned mansion. Hmm.
00:22:11
Speaker
Uh, and indeed, uh, they, they get down to it. They're making out on the bed for a second. The gal then says, I'm hungry. And then the fella unpacks his picnic basket right there on the death bed. Just putting a bucket of fried chicken on the bed. yeah Absolutely unhinged behavior. Yeah.
00:22:35
Speaker
send. But this does give us the opportunity to observe the manner in which the deathbed eats. And it's so strange. It's really good. Yeah. ah it It's sort of just bubbles up a little bit of ah just from a bubble machine with some yellow food coloring that they added to it, just these yellow bubbles. And then things get sucked down between the sheets into a large pool of digestive acid.
00:23:05
Speaker
There's no chewing. It's like, uh, it almost reminds me of, uh, the monster from nope. Yeah. When you see the title death bed, you, you almost immediately think that it would eat more like the, the piano and house or like the mattress. Yeah. yeah like chomp yeah chewing people Yeah. For sure. There should be teeth. That's the first idea that comes to your mind, but it's, it's actually more of like an absorption. Yeah. Yeah. Like an amoeba.
00:23:32
Speaker
And I love that it takes down the bottle of wine, pulls out the cork and starts literally drinking the wine, but then puts the bottle back up. Yeah. Like I'm done with that. You have it now. And then, you know, the the the the image of where this place that they go, once the death bed eats them, and I'm guessing, which is the bed's stomach or the gut of or or something. Yeah. It it looks to me very much like andres serrano
00:24:04
Speaker
pis christ you know anna said the same thing this is reminding i'm getting big piss christ vi from yeah yeah yeah Yeah, it it is just them in a pool of yellow liquid and and it's a very striking visual. I think it does. Very striking.
00:24:23
Speaker
make it scarier than if it was a big bed with teeth. Do you know? certainly have you It is very close to effective at times. Now, uh, the couples find the remnants of the eaten food, but they ignore that in favor of getting to second base. It's understandable. Getting to second base is awesome.
00:24:45
Speaker
Now, uh, the bed then closes the curtains around them and we hear them getting eaten before we get our opening titles. All of this was a cold open. yeah That's awesome. Incredible. Yeah. Big salute to a long cold open.
00:25:02
Speaker
Now, uh, the artist tells us that, uh, deathbed has a little bit of a backstory. Uh, this isn't its first crime. You may or may not believe. Uh, in fact, newspaper headlines scream thousands have disappeared. Strange munching heard in the night. Yeah. Something about the mayor getting involved. Great news. Great spinning newspaper stuff. Yeah.
00:25:32
Speaker
Now, uh, in frustration over being trapped in an abandoned mansion, uh, cause eventually it sort of ate the goose that laid the golden egg sort of situation. Uh, the bed uses its powers to sort of shake the mansion apart, trapping it in the same room it was already in, but now there's no house. Maybe it's sort of vague. What happens there? Yeah. Because now we get to act to lunch and, and somebody's driving out to this house.
00:26:00
Speaker
but like guess they can where the house used to be yeah Yeah, they're looking for the house and they can't find it. I guess that's what happened. It's one of the strangest things. It's the house is like an interior with no exterior. Yeah. Yeah. It's like just the seller to a root seller. Yeah. Yeah. Down in a bat cave. Now, ah we've got three gals and they're driving up a remote road in a big red muscle car. That's very cool. But you know, they're going to be bringing Detroit muscle if you're. Yeah, of course. The D.
00:26:35
Speaker
Now, our driver, does this movie evoke Detroit at all for you, Greg, now that you knew that? like ah no you like that sounds like ah No, not really. Although you mentioned the muscle cars. Like, I guess that makes some sense. But yeah, when I think Detroit, like this is not a movie that I think of Detroit. This isn't classic Detroit. No, no. I mean, it mostly takes place it doesn't in the country.
00:26:59
Speaker
No, I would say no. Detroit, I think of as a city. This is just like out in the woods somewhere. Like it's just crazy to me that this was filmed near there. And I say near there because it seems like it can't be filmed there. Well, there there is this weird island that this man. Yeah, but that's fair. That's fair. i I haven't gone to any of the islands off Detroit.
00:27:21
Speaker
Now, uh, the driver of the red muscle car, Diane is friends with a woman who is a lawyer for the estate of the mansion or something like that, but she's letting Diane take a little vacation up there. Now, uh, there's one gal in the back seat, Susan, she invited herself along and the three of them have a very weird dynamic they have an extremely weird and Yes. No, no, like really seem like friends. Yeah.
00:27:49
Speaker
No, you got the vibe that Susan like maybe works with Diane and Diane was like, I'm going up to this house for the weekend. And Susan was like, can I come? And Diane was like, okay. And then Susan was like, why did I ask her if I could do this? Yeah. It's like a, it's like a curb your enthusiasm plot or something. Yeah. No, like, and you hear a lot about her just being like, why did I do this? Like I should, I will go to sleep and then I'll tell them that I'm sick. So they'll have to take me back.
00:28:18
Speaker
Just like all this like weird, not being there. So strange. And it, it's weird to choose to put that, like you could give these characters literally any vibe you want. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why you wouldn't have them be three fun friends. It's also strange. Three people who are uncomfortable. it It's just a very interesting choice.
00:28:40
Speaker
Most of the dialogue is in the head, so it's like it's it's like monologue, not dialogue. So so they could have really cast. This is basically anything. But if you cut out the car, the car conversation, she's like, why did you bring flowers? That's not cool to bring flowers to a house, which I was just like, why is that not OK? Yeah. Nice housewarming gift. Bring flowers makes sense to me.
00:29:07
Speaker
Maybe they, uh, did that right because they had all this footage of them just sitting there when it was boring. So they yeah wrote in all that narration in post and like, well, we should explain why they're not talking to each other. Maybe it's because it's awkward. So that would make sense to me at least. Yeah.
00:29:28
Speaker
We'll run with that theory, listeners. So they arrive at the property. Let's see. And Susan sort of wanders in the wood into the woods and cries for a moment. While Diane and the other road tripper, Sharon, find a small lakeside graveyard. Just always good. All normal stuff. I mean, a heavy rain and those bodies are getting washed into that lake, though. That's fair. They were right by the shore.
00:29:57
Speaker
Yeah. Now, uh, the gals soon assemble in the death beds layer. Uh, there's only one bed and there's three gals, which is great premise for a porno. But, uh, Susan ever the stick in the mud suggests that instead they sleep in shifts. Susan changes into her gym jams while Diane and Sharon go wander around for a little while.
00:30:23
Speaker
Uh, we also get a quick scene of Sharon's unnamed big brother agreeing to track down Sharon. This character, this big brother character does not have a name. Yeah, that makes sense. The credits listed him as Sharon's brother. I also say like when he comes back later, I was like, Oh yeah, that guy. Yeah. And also, uh, he and Sharon, if you combine the two of them, they look like me in my twenties when I had long hair.
00:30:53
Speaker
Okay, that's fair. Now, uh, back in the bedroom, the death bed, the bed that eats strips, Susan nude, and then garats her with her gold chain necklace before eating her. We think that maybe for a moment, the cross it's on her necklace is going to save her, but no, no, no, not the case.
00:31:13
Speaker
no deathbed doesn't kill Also, at this point, has the death bed discussed the fact that the other one share and I think is like somehow it's kryptonite? Because I feel like that has come up. I feel like that. OK, then I spoiled that. Let's let's let's keep that. Let's keep that under the hat. I did not get that vibe that happened. I thought I thought at some point the bed was just like, there's something about her. I can't touch her or something, which is why she ends up being which is what I thought the bed was like toying with her. a I mean, maybe you know, there's there's I think you're right, Greg, that there is something in in there about that. That's but it's so. You know, the way that the story is told, it's easy for details for like that to escape um registering
00:32:09
Speaker
To say it has a story, I feel like, is kind of a stretch. It feels more just like a series of events that occur. Well, one of the things I very much like about it is that it's's it's structured like a porno almost or something. Yeah. it there's yeah theres Especially this this this segment of the film that we're going in. I think this is the lunch chapter. Yeah, yeah. Makes sense.
00:32:32
Speaker
Yeah, instead of being like left alone with the housekeeping handyman, the the property manager, they're left alone with a flesh eating bed. ah And ah Susan dissolves into a Skellington wearing a wig before the death bed, the bed that eats teleports her skull into the ground outside and causes a rose bush to bloom out of it. Very fanciful of the death bed.
00:33:02
Speaker
It's got a lot of strange powers. Yeah, they all work, though. No, yeah, no, it sells. It sells. Is she the one who has that nightmare while she's sleeping in the death bed, too, or? I think everyone who sleeps in the death bed has some nightmare or other, but I didn't write out of them down. There was this very specific nightmare where she's being made to eat like bug salad or something. Oh, yeah, yeah. Sharon has that nightmare. Sharon has that nightmare. OK, yeah. All right. Yeah, that's it.
00:33:31
Speaker
Yeah, Deathbed is like, eat a bug. Eat a bug. And then she really eats a bug. She really eats a bug. That is a true prayer. Yeah, she eats that bug. Diane picks a rose out of Sharon's skull bush and says, I'm sorry, Sharon, Susan. That was Susan, Susan skull bush and says to Susan and it was Susan that had that bug nightmare.
00:33:59
Speaker
Susan has the bug nightmare. OK, yeah, that's easy to confuse those two names. I know. Yeah, that was a big problem. I feel like that would be a note I would give the characters are also, you know, they're thinly sketched. Yes, it's very true. ah So Diane says to Sharon, I'll go get lunch from the car, check and see if Susan's hungry. And then that happens. I love redundant dialogue like that in a bad movie. It's always so fun.
00:34:27
Speaker
Also, their lunch is a jar of pickles and in a bottle of wine. Yeah, that they eat on the ground. Yeah. Yeah. Very vacation. Very pedestrian. ah That sounds like, you know, just girl lunch or whatever. That's true. That's true. car You got to give it that. Well, it's not a meme. last year like Yeah, had definitely. Like that and two Xanax, yeah. Pickles and wine on the ground, Xanax dessert. So ah Diane and Susan, they have a nice picnic lunch of wine and pickles straight from the jar, while Deathbed eats Sharon's luggage to make it the perfect crime.
00:35:10
Speaker
And also, uh, downs the bottle of Pepto Bismol, presumably in Susan's bag. Uh, we then cut to Aubrey's cubby behind the painting. Uh, he's gotten ahold of Sharon's gold chain and indeed he's wearing a lot of jewelry, mostly rings. You got it all from deathbeds previous victims. And he tells us about some of them through a series of flashbacks.
00:35:34
Speaker
The first is a priest. That's how we can really confirm that the deathbed is immune to holy type attacks. As a side note, the priest was played by the head of the special effects department, Jock Davis. Jock also built the bed and he'll also come up a little bit later in one, one ah other thing that happens. So the bed destroyed its creator.
00:35:57
Speaker
It's true. Think about how wild, how wild wetic this is it's like Frankenstein too. Yeah. Yeah. Frankenstein was in the name of the bed that eats. Uh, let's see. Then we see an old lady who's reading porno mags and also the tropic of cancer. Then we see a servant girl with a leg brace also get eaten. Uh, a quack doctor tries to use the death bed, the bed that eats as a sexual aid and the bed happily eats an entire orgy.
00:36:29
Speaker
I mean, that's that's that's got to be awesome day for the bed. At least one of the participants is a Roosevelt voter. it's yeah no yeah there is yeah listeners There's a little key chain, a little Roosevelt key chain. Which I think it's meant to situate you know us and the idea that the the deathbed has been doing this for several decades. and so And yeah, next we get a gangster who is playing cards with the buddy while they're on the lamb and they see the deathbed start to eat them or they figure out it's going to, after it changes one of them to having a, uh, uh, loyal flush, but it's written on the cards. You are dead. Ha ha ha. Which is pretty funny. That's pretty good. And then they try to shoot the bed with a gun. And that's how we learned that the deathbed is also immune to guns. Yeah.
00:37:22
Speaker
So you actually pick up a lot of exposition in the course. Yeah, yes. A lot more world building here than I had realized. It really moves the story forward. The rich tapestry.
00:37:34
Speaker
More so than any other moment, this this is the sequence that delivers on the um promise of the premise. you know just yeah You do get to have just a nice yeah chain reaction of deathbed being the bed that eats. It finishes off the flashbacks with Aubrey himself, who is in the bed dying of consumption.
00:37:54
Speaker
He painted the painting that now serves as his prison. And he theorizes that the bed stuck him back there in this little extra dimensional pocket with these jewels, because it would not eat him due to his diseased flesh.
00:38:11
Speaker
Now, Aubrey tells us that ah next of the beds origin, It seems that there was a demon that lived in a tree and it was lured out of the tree when it fell in love for pretty, with a pretty lady. It cracked the perfect bed to make love to her in and all normal stuff. She died while they were fucking and the demon wept tears of blood before fleeing back to his tree. And those bloody tears gave the bed life.
00:38:45
Speaker
I like this story. This is good. It reminded me of and remind me of anime. This is definitely not what I expected for the origin story of the death matter. What did you expect? I don't know, but certainly not this. I thought maybe a demon got trapped in a bed. I thought it was a little bit more straightforward, but I guess i I don't know how that would happen.
00:39:14
Speaker
Yeah, tough to say. Well, now the important detail that we learned in this story is that every few years, the demon will dream and have a nightmare about the bed.

Climactic Ritual Scene

00:39:26
Speaker
And while that's going on, the bed is powerless. I didn't catch that actually. It's very important.
00:39:33
Speaker
Yeah, no, I mean, that makes more things make sense now. Cause in my head, I was like, how did that last part happen though? Like what was the, what, what changed? But now I understand spoilers there. Yeah. Now, uh, meanwhile, Diane and Sharon realized that Susan has gone missing and so they split up to look for her or rather Sharon goes to look for her. Diane's going to wait in there in case she comes back. Now it's time for dinner.
00:40:03
Speaker
Yes. Sharon drives or tries to drive into town, but her car breaks down and she has to walk back. Meanwhile, Diane falls asleep in death bed, the bed that eats.
00:40:17
Speaker
Uh, she dreams that she meets Susan who shows her a book of dead people and it has both their names in it. And then Diane's like, Oh, all the pages are blank. Then Sharon says check again. And now all the pages are mirrors. Yeah. Or at least shiny pieces of plastic that are meant to evoke mirrors. Yes.
00:40:42
Speaker
Uh, the bed then begins to eat Diane. Uh, but she wakes up and yanks herself out of the bed, falling to the floor, her legs covered in bright red Herschel Gordon Lewis tempera paint blood. It looks great. She begins dragging herself across the floor. And what I want to do right now is I'm going to play a ah little mini game. No, God, I isolated a sound clip of from when Diane hit the floor.
00:41:11
Speaker
to when she reaches the door. Okay. Cause I'm glad we're doing this. I'm glad we're doing this. I want you to say your name when you think it's within five seconds of it being over and then we'll see who gets closest. If you go past, you lose. All right. and We're going to listen to the whole thing. Well, we'll see. I mean, it can't be that long. You let me know when you think it's done. Here we go.
00:41:40
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are a
00:41:46
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That's Diane. Yep. ah What do you think? Do you think she's close to the door yet? No.
00:42:03
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um oh ah um
00:42:19
Speaker
five seconds he said yeah ah and ah a oh ah this is an insane scene This is an inside the book. oh I had dinner with my family earlier. I was specifically talking about the length of this scene. This is the scariest scene in the film, in my opinion. It's really intense that it goes super intense.
00:43:04
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oh um yeah She's getting there.
00:43:14
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o o
00:43:24
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okay yeah Joe. Damn.
00:43:35
Speaker
She wasn't quite there yet, Joe. Let's see if Grant can get it. This is tough. oh It's a very short window.
00:43:50
Speaker
o I think we're at five seconds. All right, you're saying you're calling it? Yeah. Oh, oh, God. That's the door. She's not outside yet. This is such a long scene. It's crazy.
00:44:10
Speaker
And it's like one shot and she can't use your legs and you watch her crawl.
00:44:20
Speaker
I just thought one of the sound effects earlier she made a door. She made it. How long was that? That was two minutes and 40 seconds. OK. Of just a woman slowly crawling across a room. Yeah.
00:44:36
Speaker
But that's isn not when the death bed introduces a power that we didn't know that it had. Yes, actually. Yes, because, yeah, Sharon gets back just in time to see Diane grabbed and dragged back to the bed by a sheet of some sort, some sort of bedding. And this time it's coming from underneath and dragging her up under the bed. So it can get you from either way. You can't hide under the bed from the bed. No. Being in the vicinity of the bed is the problem.
00:45:06
Speaker
It's true. The bed is going to, it's going to get you now. Yeah. Even just entering that room. This is very traumatic for poor Sharon. Uh, but luckily her unnamed big brother shows up. He gets up to speed pretty quickly and decides the smart play here is to stab the bed with a knife. I like his gumption. It's a strong instinct. You know, it's yeah. oh Yeah. No, no. And I like, I appreciate.
00:45:35
Speaker
Uh, but instead he ends up thrusting his hands deep into the stomach acid, quickly, quickly dissolving all the flesh from his bones. He handles that pretty well. Yeah. I mean, yeah, he holds them up and stares at them. And he's like, damn. Skeletal hands. That thing ate all the, all the meat off my hands.
00:46:02
Speaker
Uh, so Sharon and big bro, they take a moment to think about it and bro does seem strangely detached from the fact that his hands have just been skeletonized. He says to Sharon specifically, I don't think I can stand it. Sharon, you'll have to take them off. Yeah. Cause the cartilage is drying on them in the, cause he's like the cartilage is drying the pieces. yeah They're just going to fall apart. Let's just, I don't think I can stand it. You'll have to break them off.
00:46:31
Speaker
And what he could really do is just clap and they would just fall apart. That's fair. Yeah. but He's going to make his little sister do it just cause you know, yeah it's good when family does things together. That's what you do when you have a little sister, make her touch your skeleton hands. and Exactly.
00:46:51
Speaker
something about it also reminded me of like some of the stuff that we saw in I Know Who Killed Me. It was sort of needlessly gory. Yeah. And to have him yeah just walking around with these skeletonized hands was actually like surprisingly like I don't know, impactful. yeah It was a strong choice. ah ah especially yeah Then Sharon snaps his bony hands off at the wrists. But it's not all bad news. Aubrey is able to psychically communicate with them, and he reveals that the demon has started to dream and the bed is now vulnerable. We move into our final segment of the film, just desserts.
00:47:32
Speaker
me Aubrey tells Sharon about the ritual she'll need to perform, a ritual to kill the bed. He's lying though. The ritual just teleports the bed outside to a different magical circle and it kills Sharon.
00:47:46
Speaker
want why Uh, the demon's long dead lover rises from her grave and, uh, her grave stone also becomes like a mirrored cross. It's pretty cool looking. Uh, we see a reflection of a nude woman in it. That's, you know, that's always striking. Uh, now let's see, uh, she grabs big bro and leads him to the circle of abjuration that is now holding the bed and the two of them make out and the bed catches fire.
00:48:17
Speaker
Back in his cubby, Aubrey says, taking me with you into death is not your revenge. It's my release. We get some flashing red demon eyes and the bed burns to the ground and the credits roll. The end. Boom. What an end. Wild stuff. Wild stuff. Getting to see the bed burn is really satisfying. Yeah. You've got that fucking bed. It's out of here.
00:48:45
Speaker
The circles are interesting because they're more like kind of figure eights if figure eights were snowmen with only two sections. Yes, they're asymmetrical. It's like build a circle of wood. And it's this weird kind of infinity symbol kind of with one bulbous with one much. So it's just like that's not what I expect. The proportions remind me of like fractal art. Like it seemed like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like a Mandelbrot kind of a thing. Yeah.
00:49:14
Speaker
Yeah, pleasantly proportioned. Yeah. No, no, they look good. I was just not what I was expecting when he's like make a circle. It's like that's closer to a figure eight. This is not true. I wouldn't have described it as a circle. Yeah, that's more complex than that, Aubrey. Weird man stuck behind the painting. ah So final thoughts, five star rating. Who wants to go first? I will go first. OK.
00:49:43
Speaker
I'm going to give this one four stars. I think it's got lots of spectacle, lots of charm. It's full of surprises. It is just occasionally paced like a sludge metal song. Yeah. Drag at times. Yeah. But other than that, and if I'll admit that that's also occasionally a personal weakness of mine.
00:50:06
Speaker
I am a big fast paced guy I have no attention span so if you have a. Greater love of a slower film than I do this is a fantastic choice I I I'd say check it out. How about you Greg where do you like. ah so think I think we give this one three and a half of the immediately I think if I had other people there I might have given it a four.
00:50:29
Speaker
Um, because it just feels a little like some of the sludge pacing at times. It's just like, like, especially when that woman was crawling across the floor, I was like, okay. All right. I understand what is happening at this juncture. I don't know if continuing to watch it is helping me get more into it, but it really like, I liked it a lot. Uh, it was a great time. Um, I like movies from this time period. I feel like people were encouraged to just like kind of go for it and, uh,
00:50:56
Speaker
This this filmmaker certainly did and it's definitely one to watch if you're into bad movies. I really liked it a lot Why about you Joe final thoughts five-star rating? Well, yeah, oh absolutely five stars fair hey I am You know when you asked me to come on the on the podcast I was trying to pick a ah film and I love this one, but when I watch because i you know I rewatched, I hadn't seen it in a couple of years to to sort of revisit it. And I was like, I don't think this movie is bad. i don't yeah i don't think I don't see anything like this. I don't think that I can consciously say that this is a bad movie. I i think it's a good movie. I think yeah think everything about it is good. i but i i I do like the slow pacing. I feel like it's ah it's very... um
00:51:52
Speaker
you know, it's deliberate in a way. And, i you know, it's kind of, I don't know, it feels like time spent with an old friend or something. ming This one's a comfort watch for you. Aubrey Beardsley. Yeah. um There's, ah there's just a million ideas in it. um Oh, yeah. You know, this, this is the kind of thing that, you know, really, ah Separates the ah the the true outsiders from the ah from the you know, I don't know if like it' it's it's not it's not a it's not a it's not a schlock Fast no, it's quite a there's quite a bit laughs. Yeah. Yeah, it's a although it has a sense of humor about itself No, yeah, that's the bad drinks Pepto bismol. Like yeah, yeah, it's like you know the the gangster has a big Super Mario mustache like it's Mm-hmm No, I would say that this is a good one to sort of Separate the wheat from the chaff in your bad movie watching friends. Like if they can't watch deathbed, then they can't hang, you know Yeah, well because there's also something there like because I was like is this intentional camp or is it unintentional camp like and it yeah walks that line so like balletically, it's like ah it it just
00:53:21
Speaker
It's it's as though it's a you know, like a delicate circus performer in this film it's Yeah, it and it defies classification in that way. There's so many different ways to appreciate deathbed It's it's a rewarding watch no matter how you approach to it or what you bring to it. I think yeah, yeah, i mean I would agree on depending on the the moment that like you know i mean i don't know what tv channel whatever show death bed the bed that eats but if you were to like flip on tv you know any given you know come into it and at any given scene you would feel like you're entering a different kind of movie at different moments if you were sitting there with aubrey beardsley you were thinking you would think you were in some
00:54:04
Speaker
cheap British European art film or something. your you know If you are there with the skeleton hands and you know it feels more you know like Spider Baby or something like that, or if you're with um you know that i you the scene where we listen to the entire audience. That almost feels like, you know, some, some of the more, you know, egregious, uh, you know, that kind of late seventies, you know, real feel bad horror, like the Hills have eyes or, uh, the, uh, the last house left or something, Texas chainsaw. Yeah. Something like that. Like that feels like, you know, yeah, that's, that's reveling in human suffering for that. yeah yeah Two in minutes and 40 seconds.
00:54:56
Speaker
Or the lunch sequence just, I mean, the lunch sequence is really the moment though that gets to the heart and soul of what the movie is. smith that's That's when you just get a parade of of the bed eating. Yeah, I love a movie that really delivers and boy, God, it it sure delivers. Absolutely. Well, we aren't the only people that appreciated death bed, the bed that eats.
00:55:25
Speaker
and I'll talk about some of its other appreciators in our first segment about this movie getting remade.

Remakes and Cultural Impact

00:56:24
Speaker
So I was able to find not one but two separate and distinct remakes of Deathbed the Bed That Eats. Wow. What? What? I was able to watch one that was simply called Deathbed. That's why I've always referred to Deathbed the Bed That Eats by its full title. I don't want anybody to think I'm talking about Deathbed.
00:56:43
Speaker
Uh, the only thing that's interesting about death bed is that it was made in 2002, which was a year before the death bed, the bed that eats was rediscovered and had its Renaissance. So somebody got on a BHS. Yeah. And it also had Stuart Gordon attached executive producer, but I think it was one of those things where he just put his name on it because it was cheap as hell. It was shot on video. It was, uh,
00:57:11
Speaker
a far inferior film to Death Bed, The Bed That Eats. You might notice that the title dropped, The Bed That Eats. That's because this death bed does not eat. Well, that's a problem. That's is it. Can you? Yeah, yeah, that's not a remake. that that That's not. Does it even have Aubrey Beardsley in it? It does go not yes it not. George Berry got a credit and that's the only way and it has the title deathbed. Now, what it does have is a man. I'm sorry.
00:57:47
Speaker
Instead of eating, what it does is it curses men who have sex in it to want to kill the women they have sex with. A young couple moves into a loft apartment and find the bed locked in a storage space, and ah the dominoes pretty much fall into place from there.
00:58:04
Speaker
Uh, it's a type of movie where characters are shown moving into apartment. And so the first scene is meeting with their landlord, you know, and their landlord is played by Joe Estevez and the landlord becomes a major character. It's that sort of very lazy movie. Uh, it's shot on video and really doesn't do anything interesting until sort of the final climax. I'll just tell you, you can skip it. Sure.
00:58:31
Speaker
The other remake was not for the silver screen, but for the stage. Oh, just like the atomic brain. Check out our episode on the atomic brain. In 2014, the stage musical Deathbed, the play that bites premiered at the Cape Fear Playhouse in Cape Fear, North Carolina. Whoa. Is written by a local bookseller named Guinefar Roller.
00:59:01
Speaker
and appears to have been well-received in its two-week run. And it did have, as a resource, Jock Davis lived in Cape Fear and was involved in the process. Did he build another death pad for the play? i don't i He might have. there i I'm going to be honest, I'm mostly skimmed. He was involved somehow.
00:59:25
Speaker
But yeah, if you look into death bed, death bed, the play that bites, you'll, you can find them in some of the articles. Uh, the first act of the play covered the making of the film while the second act was a remake of the film. So it was kind of like, uh, one cut of the dead, but flipped. Uh, and that's, uh,
00:59:50
Speaker
Oh, I found out about these remakes. I could not find any songs from the musical, unfortunately. Still pretty great. though somewhere Yeah, I did a quick glance on YouTube, but I did not look that hard. I bet you could probably contact Guinefer Roller and get a copy from her. I'm sure she's got something that, you know, you put the one camcorder in the back of the auditorium. She's got to have at least that.
01:00:17
Speaker
My partner's from the North Carolina coast. Okay. We're going down there soon for the holidays. So maybe. Well, you should try and do some ground might still be there. Yeah. Try to get down to Cape here. Yes. Uh, well, do you guys, are you guys ready to play a little game? Of course.
01:00:37
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go right
01:01:22
Speaker
All right, so we're going to play a quick game of Guess the Title. It's going to be a buzz in game. You'll buzz in by saying your own name. And these are the subject of the round is post-war rediscovered American films. Famously death bed, the bed that eats was lost for 25 years or so. and So these are all other films that have been lost and rediscovered. And we've done a lot of lost and rediscovered films on the show. ah Manos was lost for a long time. Uh,
01:01:56
Speaker
I forget the other ones, but they're there. Yeah, definitely. I might edit them in at this point, or I might edit out me saying this. I guess we'll find out. Uh, so I'm going to read you the plot description and I'm going to give you three choices for what the title could be. So ring in and guess the title. And if your opponent doesn't get it, you can steal. and Okay. Any questions? Yes. Okay.
01:02:23
Speaker
Oh, no, I don't have any questions. yeah Well, I've got nine questions and here's question number one. ah ah Question number one, Santa Claus crashes his sleigh in Florida and uses his psychic powers to summon children to help him dig it out and also tells them the story of Thumbelina before a rabbit driving a fire truck drives him home to the North Pole.
01:02:49
Speaker
Wow. Is that a Christmas calamity? Santa and the ice cream bunny or Santa's story? Santa's story, Joe. Joe's going to get Santa's story. Sorry, Joe. Greg, do you want to steal? What were the first two again that you said? A Christmas calamity or Santa and the ice cream bunny? Christmas calamity.
01:03:19
Speaker
Sorry, that was Santa and the ice cream bunny. There's an alternate where he tells a different story other than Thumbelina. And apparently in both cuts, the story that he tells takes up a longer portion of the film than the framing narrative. How about that? Question number two, a rich and powerful big game hunter is tired of hunting animals. And so we invite several models to his estate and hunts them for sport.
01:03:48
Speaker
Is that the suckers, the most dangerous dame or bang, bang, Greg, Greg, bang, bang.
01:04:02
Speaker
Uh, um, Joe, do you have to steal? Oh, yes. um I'm going to try to steal it. Uh, uh, is it, I mean, is it the most dangerous dame?
01:04:16
Speaker
No, God, i am I am fooling you guys with my amazing fooling abilities. It was the suckers. I was really proud of the name, the most dangerous name. I'm going to pat myself on the back for that one.
01:04:28
Speaker
Okay. Question number three. You guys got this one. This one's a porno. Justin, that's a tip. Uh, a pair of brothers are sucked into a game. One of them is developing after a freak power surge and needs to fuck their way back to the real world. Is that street fucker two electric cream or super Hornio brothers? Uh, Greg, Greg.
01:04:57
Speaker
Is it super cream or electric cream? Yeah. Nope, it is not electric. Joe's going to steal it. It is. Is it Super Hornio Brothers? Correct. Yeah. Ron Jeremy played Orneo Hornio. And there's a Super Hornio Brothers two out there. Well, good. Good for them. I hope to throw a lot of headstrong. I'm sure they did. I'm sure they did.
01:05:28
Speaker
And question number four, aliens come to earth to fight our greatest professional wrestlers. And if they win, they eat them. Okay. Wait, is that, Hmm. Oh, uh, the aliens eat the, the people, the wrestlers do not eat the aliens. I don't think the wrestlers.
01:05:51
Speaker
The wrestlers, I think then earth wins, earth survives, knock wood. What era are we talking? This was in the 1980s. I meant to write the years down on these. I apologize for not doing that. Well, it's a different set of wrestlers. If it's the nineties, go on. It's true. No problem. Uh, is that Santo conquers the Martians space muscle or blood circus? Greg Greg Santo conquers the Martians.
01:06:20
Speaker
God. Nope. That one was me. I came up with that one. Joe? is it ah Is it space muscle? No, that was blood circus. I want to i just want to take again i want to take this opportunity to say that I recently discovered Santo last year and I oh santos santo i love Santo. Santo is amazing.
01:06:42
Speaker
Anyway, question number five, Buffalo Jones is a loner whose only friend is the Buffalo. He rides and together they hunt Buffalo hunters. Is that Buffalo rider blood on the range or standing strong? Joe, Joe. i'm I'm probably going to get it wrong, but I hope that the title is Buffalo rider.
01:07:10
Speaker
You've got those up two to nothing. but so i've I gotta say I'm really looking at these now. I'm really happy with all the titles I made up for this. You've done a good job. Thank you. Question number six. This is a Nickelodeon original movie. If this helps you guys out. Okay. A seance awakens the spirit of a long dead evil conjoined twin and only brothers, Andrew and Carl can stop him.
01:07:38
Speaker
Is that one half crybaby lane or my brother, my ghost?
01:07:48
Speaker
Greg, Greg, my brother, my ghost. I wish they had the balls to call it my brother. Joe, do you have a guess?
01:08:01
Speaker
I mean, one half sounds like the more logical title for this for this film, not that that role ever tends to apply in in the cases so far. It's true. So I'm going to guess Crybaby, Crybaby Lane. Why not? Yes, good instincts. Whoa, whoa. It was a Nickelodeon film. That was made for Nickelodeon. Frank Langella played an undertaker. How about that?
01:08:32
Speaker
Question number seven, a psychic researcher attempts to solve a murder by using a radio that enables him to speak to the dead. Hmm. Is that called the dead talk back over and out or dead air? Greg. Greg. I almost hesitate to say this, but over and out.
01:09:01
Speaker
They should've called it that. They should've called it that. yeah Joe's gonna guess um the dead talk back because it sounds the most like the bed that eats. ah Good logic. Good logic. Four to nothing. just ah Question number eight. Four ex-convicts journey to Rome and attempts to kidnap the Pope, planning on charging a ransom of $1 from every Catholic in the world.
01:09:32
Speaker
How about that? Is that the Roman affair, the Holy Divers, or gone with the Pope? Ding! Wow.
01:09:47
Speaker
ah I'm gonna guess ah the... It can't be the Holy Divers. No, it's... No way it's the Holy Divers.
01:10:00
Speaker
Is that your guess? I'm going to say, I'm going to say gone with the Pope. Correct. Hey, wow. It was gone with the Pope. Who would have guessed? I mean, you. Wow. Yeah. One dollar from every Catholic. It's a great plan. No, it's a really good plan. That's not a very good plan. I'm going to contact them.
01:10:26
Speaker
um at local parent
01:10:31
Speaker
Yeah, so they'll get the word out. It's the power of the church. It's gonna spread. Yeah, they don't need it like in the next eight hours. Does that include lapsed Catholics? Do I have to send these guys a dollar? You gotta send at least a quarter. If you celebrate Christmas, you gotta send them a quarter. Listen, I'll send them a dollar. That's fine.
01:10:54
Speaker
This is for the papa. All right. Question number nine. Last one. Greg, see, see, get it together, man. You got to lock it. Whatever. A young college professor and three students seek shelter from a storm in a rural farmhouse owned by a mysterious transgender woman who collects lifelike mannequins. okay Is that Miss Leslie's dolls? Death of the living?
01:11:22
Speaker
or sexual farm. OK, Greg. Greg, I just I just like death of the living. So I'm going to say that. Yes. Perfect, perfect, perfect round. You shot the moon.
01:11:39
Speaker
um the The other options are Ms. Leslie's dolls or sexual farm. God, both great titles. How do you choose? ah Um, I'm going to say miss Leslie stalls.
01:11:59
Speaker
You've got it. Sorry. I accidentally played the lightning bolts. You know, yeah fine, but commiserations to Greg. Congratulations to Joe. butre Fantastic stuff. I guess that means it's time for us to move on to the baddie award.
01:12:50
Speaker
Lords of Magic! That was another lost film that we did. I was just listening to that today. Lords of Magic. Check out episode 32, Lords of Magic featuring Matt Finnegan. Uh, and check out these amazing Batty awards. Greg, do you have a Batty award? I do. It was for my favorite piece of world building in death bed, the bed that eats. Um, it's the fact that demons, a demon's eyes are always full of blood.
01:13:17
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It's not very nonchalantly where she's like, and as you know, demons eyes are always full of blood. It's just like, I'm sorry, what? Like it's it's such a new piece of information about demons that if you have not seen anywhere else, it is very integral to the plot because that's the blood that he literally cry cries the blood out of his eyes onto the bed. ah And I just love ah like in my head when I think of the line, I keep picturing Our man behind the painting saying, and as you know, I don't think he does say that, but it's just delivered in that way. It's just like a demon's eyes are always full of blood. It's just like, OK, yeah, sure. No, no, moving on. ah Just love that moment. It was really beautiful, of course. Well, what about you, Joe? Do you have a Batty Award? Oh, um, I ah as far as a superlative element of the super little film um wow it's where do you start um I'm gonna say the fluid the yellow yeah just a fluid it's you know all every every single one of those of those scenes you know that could it could just be a beautiful video installation at the MoMA or something I could watch them forever there's the you know and you get to see so many there you know it's it's it's
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it's probably one of the one of the core strokes of geniuses genius that that really defines This movie is the you know, the the the piss Christ that just in fact of the That's bad. In fact, when was the piss Christ? What year was that? Did death bed in fact inspire the pits Christ? i hope It appears to have ah preceded it by about 10 years 1987 the piss Christ so I'm just gonna say that's canon that deathbed Without that there'd be no piss Christ. So there you go. I I'm also going to say for my Batty Ward, without Deathbed, there'd be no Wes Anderson with these classic chapter breaks. He's really evocative of his best works. Droil, tenon bombs, Rushmore. Everybody is pulling from Deathbed the bed that eats. It's very inspirational. Deeply, profoundly influential. yeah Joe, you've been an inspiration to us for choosing such a great movie. Thanks for coming. Yes, thank you.
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Do you have anything that you want to plug? Where can people find you, brother? Well, I have a website ah that most of my films are on that's called josephwakeman

Joe Wakeman's Work and Invitation

01:15:52
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.com. Joseph is spelled with an F. um So J-O-S-E-F-E. We'll have that link in the show notes, listeners. Just click on that. Check out Joe's stuff. is it And um I also run a cinema in Brooklyn, Millennium Film Workshop. We show great work. and if you If you are ah around Bushwick sometimes, stop in and see some, some, some wild stuff. You know, if Joe is bringing death bed, the bed that eats to the podcast, he is bringing the heat to his own personal cinema. You've got to check this out. yeah Now I'm just going to plug us really quick listeners. You know how I do it.
01:16:35
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Uh, first up next week, I believe we will have our Canada's worst driver special, uh, over the winter break. Uh, Anna and I, instead of recording an episode of Greg tracking down a guest and I just talked about our favorite bad reality competition television show. And we'll be talking all about Canada's worst driver season nine. A topic that I am incredibly familiar with.
01:17:06
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how I've seen one episode. It's interesting. I'm not a TV person, but it was certainly, uh, better than I expected. You know, this is coming from someone who doesn't like TV being like, yeah, it was all right. Actually, everyone who I've ever shown it to said, if anything, I was underselling it. I will be tuning in. i Yeah. You can, you can find all of season nine on YouTube. I recommend checking it out. Is, are the other seasons worth checking out or just season? nine Every season, except for one and 14 is worth watching.
01:17:37
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One, they hadn't quite figured it out yet. And 14, they had ah such one incredibly unpleasant cast member that just completely ruined the vibe. Every other season is good. Interesting.
01:17:49
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ah Yeah. And you can hear all of my thoughts and more about that on Canada's Worst Driver, our episode coming next week. ah And if you want to be reminded that it's coming out, you can hit that little subscribe button. That's right there. And hey, I bet right next to that, you got some sort of option to put in five stars. Man, we'd love those five stars. You know what I mean? They'd be great. maybe They'd be great. Really makes you feel like you're connecting with people. You know what I mean? And if not you, who? And when it comes down to telling your friends about the show, I once again got to say, if not you, who? Tell a buddy at the about the show.
01:18:28
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I know that whenever I'm going into work, whenever I'm seeing somebody I haven't talked to in a while and they say, Hey man, what have you been up to? I never have an answer. Mostly because I don't want to tell people anything about my life. If you don't want to tell people about your life, tell them that you've been listening to this podcast. It's relatively normal.
01:18:45
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And, uh, yeah, if you want to reach out to us, you can email us at a favorite bad movie pod at gmail dot.com and you can find links to all our socials in the link tree that's in the show description. So find us on Instagram. Oh, we're going to be setting up a screening on our discord. We'll be watching turbulence, three heavy metals sometime this month.
01:19:08
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So, uh, make sure that you join the discord and join us for that screening. I'll be hanging out in the chat and it'll be in the chat. Fingers crossed. Special guest Greg will be in the chat. That's right. And, uh, yeah, turbulence three heavy metal is incredible. So you don't want to miss it. So with that until next time, be good. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye.
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