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Episode 37: Turbulence 3: Heavy Metal
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Chris, Anna, and Greg visit an old favorite this week, Jorge Montesi's Turbulence 3: Heavy Metal! This was the first movie that we showed in our Discord, and it definitely won't be our last. It's an action movie that stars a noticeably Canadian Marilyn Manson pastiche Die Hard-ing his way through an air bus that has been taken over by an evil cult...and that's just the beginning of how crazy this movie is. Tune in!
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Introduction and Setup
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Speaker
Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to a very special episode of your favorite bad movie podcast. The only podcast that's brave enough to ask the question, if this movie's so bad, why do you like it so much? We're your hosts. My name is ah Chris Anderson. And with me, as always,
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I have the Simon to my Slade, Mr. Greg Bossy. Hello. And of course I have my wonderful wife, the Nick to my Kate, Anna Anderson. Hello. You know, it's true. Look inside. ah Yeah, it's fair.
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Uh, so this week we watched turbulence three heavy metal. We have no guests this week. This episode is being done, uh, for our very first screening in our discord. We're recording it before the screening. We're releasing it after the screening. Hopefully you were there. Hopefully if not, there were enough people there that we'll do it again and you can come join us for the next one.
Plot Summary of 'Turbulence' Series
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Yeah. Uh,
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but we chose for our inaugural screening, it could be none other than Turbulence 3 Heavy Metal. Yeah. For you listeners who have not seen Turbulence 3 Heavy Metal, ah here's just a brief summary to hold in your mind ah for the for the rest of the episode.
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A noticeably Canadian goth rocker is playing his final show aboard an in-flight jumbo jet. But when it gets taken over by cult members, he needs to take back control of the plane and save his fans with the help of his best friend, a hacker. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they are best friends at the beginning of the film, but by the end. i was So that was my one, that was my one asterisk.
00:02:57
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On the description, I was like, well, I don't know if it's same, but I mean, by the end, sure. But here's my question. Yeah. What, what is the original turbulence about? The original turbulence is about, uh, Ray Liotta. Okay.
00:03:13
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He goes crazy on a plane that's in a storm and like he's like a serial killer on a plane. And he takes over the plane, crash the plane and then ah the stewardess ah stops him and then she has to land the plane. I think somebody landing the plane is a big through line in the turbulence movie. OK, that makes sense. I mean, it's a pretty classic scene.
00:03:40
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yeah Yeah, it's always exciting. Yeah, I intended to look up how many times that's happened in real life, but I didn't. It does happen occasionally. I've always been curious how easy it is to actually do it. You know, I mean, if this film is any indication, it seems like
Discovery of 'Turbulence 3'
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it's pretty easy. I mean, first of all, their first plan is turn on the autopilot and it will land the plane for you. Yeah.
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Yeah, that sounds great. Yeah, 100%. I love this plan. So for our personal history with Turbulence III, I imagine it all comes back via me. None of you guys have seen Turbulence III outside of me showing you Turbulence III? No, no. And I mean like my only history with Turbulence is understanding it as a Is I feel like there was a time period when it was just like, it's one man on a plane. You know, it comes from that period. I hadn't realized this one was about a female. So maybe I don't remember the movie when it originally came out. It just like I have memories of both Kurt Russell and ah Indiana Jones. Why can't I think of his name Harrison Ford? You're thinking of like Air Force One and ah the other one, clear and present danger, maybe.
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ah Clear and present danger was also Harrison Ford because he was playing oh yeah he was both of those. There was passenger 51. That's Wesley Snipes. That's Wesley Snipes. That's passenger 57. Always been on okay the Okay. Hang on. it Not absolute power. It was it was a Jack Ryan.
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One of them was ah Harrison Ford saying, get off my plane. yeah And the other one was the one where Steven Seagal died in the first half hour. And you're like, what? Steven Seagal is dead. That sounds about right. Yeah. But yeah, neith of them were number there's a good number of like, dude's got to save a plane.
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Yeah, planes were a hot place to make a movie for a while. I imagine a studio bought a plane and it was like, we got to make our money back. That's fair. That's fair.
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ah So I came across turbulence three initially at the video store and pretty sure it came through used.
Director and Production Insights
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You know, when we bought back used DVDs, we could put them out for sale, but if we didn't already have them in our rental stock, we could keep them and add them to the rental stock. That was one where we built up our library pretty cheap. yeah And it ah that one came through and I saw in the back that still image of Slade Craven.
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And I was like, and I read the description and I said, that's the hero. That's the hero listeners. If you, you, you need to stop whatever you're doing right now. And you need to type into your favorite image, search engine, Google duck, duck, go your choice. Bing. You need to type in turbulence three, Slade Craven, and you need to look at what the main character of this film looks like. Yeah.
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It's insane. Yeah. You can't have the main character of your movie look for like a mall goth that is. Yeah. Yeah. yeah Like he's supposed to be this sort of rich. He's supposed to be like the most ah powerful and like influential musician in the world. Like he's supposed to be the the cock of the walk.
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And he's wearing like a black Zentai suit underneath just like an off the rack bondage harness and like goth boots. And that's his look. And like this Roseanne, Roseanna, Dana wig like just big black circle cat eyes over corpse paint and black lipstick. And he just looks like a fucking goon. Yeah.
00:07:55
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Yeah, that's not a great look. I mean, no disrespect to Goths. I know Anna, you were a Goth, my dev. How did, how did his Gothicness speak to you?
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I think, wow. I feel, I feel really called out here. Um, I was never that type of Goths. Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. I was more of a, uh, like,
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dead flowers and lace type of goth. Okay. Okay. Much ah more classical romantic. guy Yeah. More vampiric and less. he's He's very industrial goth. I did. I did really like, and this is already jumping ahead to, uh, you know, in the film, but, uh,
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ah There are a lot of good shots of lined up chunky boots. Turn of the century chunky goth boots that made me feel very nostalgic. Yeah. I feel like his look was very much just like Saturday Night Live trying to do some goth makeup in a way that that really reads. It's like it's goth. It's not good, but it is goth. I mean.
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And one thing that I listened to the commentary track on this for preparation, when the video store closed, I bought this as one of my naturally, naturally. But I'm just surprised. that I'm surprised someone recorded a commentary track for the company. It was the ah writer, the producer and John Mann, the actor that played Slade Craven. OK. And it was very boring. It was one of those commentary tracks. I was like, and there he is.
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and yeah And this is the scene where we find out that maybe there's more to Rutger Howard's character than we thought. and It's just like that. for a yeah But I did find out one interesting thing, maybe two. One I remember is they said that makeup took three hours to apply. There's not that said that can't be true.
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it They said it took them three out. He did have a prosthetic forehead, I guess. Okay. So, you know, I was wondering about that. Like when they would do close ups, is there something on his, like above his eyebrows or something? There's something spirit gummed up there or something.
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Yeah, there there is. And that's also why his skin is noticeably much more craggy in his cheeks than it is in his forehand. That would also make some sense. ah John Mann was a very interesting actor. He's no longer with us. RIP to John Mann. No disrespect. I think he yeah delivered an interesting take on this character.
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he and in And in a challenging dual role, if we're being honest. Yeah. I'll be honest. Well, but anyway, anyway, it is impossible to take this guy seriously. Hopefully you you came to the screening and you experienced that for yourself. But I've got some context research that I was able to find out about this movie. You guys do want to hear the the context? Yeah, please. I do. All right.
Film Production and Casting Choices
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So turbulence three, heavy metal came out in 2001. It's directed by Jorge Montezi, if I'm pronouncing that correctly. okay And the tagline one killer, 40 hostages, 10 million internet viewers. OK, that's accurate. I'll say that. Well, except there was more than one killer. Yeah. OK. OK, sure. But I think the tagline that does point to, I want to talk about misdirection later on, that tagline could be feeding into misdirection, I suppose. sure Okay. Now, ah Jorge Montesi was born in Puente Alto in Chile in 1949. But by his late 20s, he was living and directing films in Canada.
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Uh, he directed a handful of short films before he got his first cracks at directing features. Uh, he directed sentimental reasons in 1984. Yeah. And the birds of prey in 1986. And he also starred in both of them. Yeah. Uh, neither of them were hits. Uh, but he did get enough experience under his belt to start getting work in Canadian television.
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Most notably, he directed 16 episodes of a Canadian police procedural called Night Heat. You guys ever heard of Night Heat? I want to say yes.
Plot Complexity and Character Analysis
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the Yeah, the the and title sounds familiar. It was the first Canadian original drama series that was also aired on American TV network CBS at the same time in its original run. Okay.
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It's high production values proved that you can make television in Canada that could compete with American television, which laid the groundwork for the American television that now gets produced in Vancouver and Toronto. All that stuff. All that goes back to night heat. Good good job night heat. Yeah. Yeah. Way to open the doors to your ah beautiful cities for filmmaking.
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Now ah being in the right place at the right time, working on Night Heat in that era, ah set Montesi up for a long and fruitful career, directing and occasionally acting in television and TV movies. He directed three episodes of Highlander, eight episodes of 21 Jump Street, two episodes of NYPD Blue, just to name a few that you might be familiar with.
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ah He directed TV movies like Mother May I Sleep with Danger? Oh, nice. Starring Tori Spelling, Blood Knot, and The Omen 4 The Awakening. Nice. Yeah. So after 20 plus years of workman-like directing, Montesi was hired to direct Turbulence III Heavy Metal.
00:15:08
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I'm not quite sure why anyone wanted to make a second direct DVD sequel to Turbulence. The first one lost $40 million dollars on its theatrical release. And I've never heard anyone even mention Turbulence 2. The script, ah but I will tell you Turbulence 2 is Turbulence 2, Fear of Flying. It also stars Craig Shafer, but as a different character. whoa And it's about a group of... Who was Craig Shafer in this one?
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He played Nick, the hacker. Oh, OK, that's what I'm hoping you were going to say. Continue. ah He was also in this and that one was about a group of people who ah went to a retreat to work on their fear of flying and on their way home, they are their plane gets hijacked. Oh, no. Craig Shafer's the hero. Yeah, and they're all afraid of flying, so.
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You know, I don't think I've seen it though. Now the script for Turbulent 3 was written by Wade Fairley, who never wrote another produced screenplay. And he is arguably most famous for working in the camera department for Christopher Guest's Best in Show. Never did much else in Hollywood. So we've got our director, we've got our writer, but what about our star?
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They would need someone with a certain swagger to play Goth, Rock, God, Slade, Craven. And what they got was John Mann. John Mann was the frontman for a Canadian folk rock band, Spirit of the West. Okay. Wow. Okay.
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Their 1990 track, Home for Arrest, is considered a classic Canadian drinking anthem made to be sung along with by large groups of drunks, kind of like Canada's Sweet Caroline. Huh.
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Uh, from there again, and as like sort of a, uh, like an Irish, like a Celtic folk rock vibe, it it didn't seem like a fun enough song. I checked it out. It was not our closing theme song. I will let you know what that is. like Interesting. Uh, from there you, they feel that they're cast with the best actors that they could afford. Gabrielle and war, Joe Mantegna, Rutger Hauer, and Craig Shafer.
00:17:33
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And then they put them in roles that would only have them shooting in pretty much one location to save money. And boom, you're off to the races. Right. Right. How are you? A lot, actually. Yeah. Yeah. Craig Jafer. He's only in his an apartment. Uh, record, how is only in the cockpit of the plane. So that one's super obvious, but I didn't even pick up the hacker thing that he's just in that apartment.
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Yeah, yeah, they really they limit their locations, but they sprawl out with characters. It's very strange. It is ah from. Let's see. This was the final turbulent sequel made to date. It most likely did not make money. I cannot find any statistics on that, but it was also the final film distributed by Trimark. So OK, something put the nail in the coffin.
00:18:29
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Also, it was a movie about hijacking a plane that came out early in 2001. So events really led Hollywood and Toronto to closing the book on the turbulence franchise. Obviously, we're not going to make a turbulence movie right after 9-11. Probably not. So other action films of 2001.
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Obviously, we've got Brotherhood of the Wolf. Check out our episode on Brotherhood of the Wolf featuring Gretchen Felger Murray. You've also got A Knight's Tale. Oh, you've got Ghosts of Mars. Oh, yeah. Never seen carpenters. It's but I i hear it has its defenders, but I've seen the last scene.
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The last scene is good. Yeah. The last scene is just ice cube looking over his shoulder and cocking a shotgun and going, here we go again. Yeah. That's all I've seen of it. I mean, that sounds great. Yeah. That part's good. ah You also got the mummy returns. The mummy's back this time. Okay. Uh, you got the one starring jet Lee. You ever see that one?
00:19:42
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No. Maybe. It involved an infinite a number of universes of jet lees, but there was one jet lee killing all the other jet lees because every time he killed one, their power would. Uh-oh. Yeah, I haven't seen that actually.
00:19:57
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Yeah, then the final Jet Li has to fight the final Jet Li. And that sounds whichever one becomes a new God. ah The 51st state versus the 51st state, directed by Corey, you win. No, no. That's a Samuel L. Jackson and Robert Carlyle to four. It's great. Oh, I mean, it's not great, but it's fun. All right. All right. Tomb Raider. You got exit wounds. Rush Hour two.
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Black Hawk down. And I think maybe the most underrated of the bunch behind enemy lines when they briefly tried to make Owen Wilson an action star. Interesting. Uh, interesting year for action films. Yeah. Real bizarre. Yeah. Like we were, this is sort of the vacuum that superhero movies eventually came to fill, I feel like.
00:20:55
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We were waiting in between. Well, like it's the matrix had happened, but it was a little early for matrix clones to really get in the year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And nine eleven happened and changed the nature of those matrix clones ah coming out and really like I think the action genre changed a lot.
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um But this is this is definitely, I would say, a pre-9-11 action movie. It's just... Oh, for sure. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And definitely a pre-Matrix movie, even if it did come out at... Yeah. And even if they were dressed like they were in The Matrix. Well, you guys ready to talk about the plot? Oh, yes. I sure am. Oh, yes.
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So here's the thing before we even get into it. Part of the deal with Turbulence 3 is just as much as it's an action movie. It's also a disaster movie. Yeah, and in that it's a disaster movie. It has an ensemble cast.
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And it uses that ensemble cast to have people from all different walks of life dealing with all different facets of this disaster from all different angles. And consequently, that means there's a lot of different storylines. Yeah. So there's a lot going on. I skipped over a couple of like deep plots, but even still, this is this is going to get a little twisty. Let's get into it. I'm excited. I'm excited. Yeah. Just just for the listeners. Hang on to your butts.
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Fasten your seatbelts. It's going to be a booby ride. We open on an airport. ah There are protesters waving signs and counter protesters, and they're both there in response to Slade Craven.
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a goth rocker whose eponymous band will be giving its their final concert aboard a 747 and live streaming it all over the world wide web. A very novel idea for 2001. It's a first live real time internet broadcast in history. And there definitely not. I couldn't find out what was, but it's definitely not. Yeah, it doesn't seem like it could be.
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And they're charging 10 bucks an IP address. ah Also, like you can tell the quality of this movie because ah right at the beginning, because like they're talking about how he's there and he's this big guy and there's this controversy and you hear this huge crowd, but in the one shot that they show of them, it's like 20 people on one side and 20 people on the other side. And it's just like, yeah, this is just like a group's worth of people that they could get in some conference hall for the afternoon.
00:24:32
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yeah And they're shooting a lot of shooting probably that they put jackets on. They really sweetened the sound quite a lot. You know what I mean? It's like, if you're not paying attention, like, Oh, big crowd. It's like, not really, though, actually, like, if you look at it, they cannot hide the fact that there are not people there. No. Now, there are plenty of people in the movie, though. In rapid succession, we meet the sprawling cast of characters. We meet Mandy and Ethan in the broadcast control room back at ZTV headquarters. Erika, the in-flight VJ slash TV host slash reporter and her cameraman, Ethan. We eat. We meet air traffic controller Mr. Stop Now. Probably my favorite name in the whole movie. Yeah. Director Stop Now. And actually, sorry, just to go back
00:25:28
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It's, uh, you said Ethan twice. Ethan is the cameraman on the plane. Benny is ben a in the real, real weaselly looking guy. Yeah. Thank you, my dove. I appreciate that. You're keeping me honest. We also meet the pilot, captain Collins and his co-pilot Macintosh Macintosh is played by Rucker Howard. And that's how you know, he's going to be important. Also, he gives off such weird vibes.
00:25:58
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Yeah, he's really immediately. I love him. I love. No, he's great. No, you can't take your eyes off him every like they whatever they paid for him, they got their money's worth. Yeah, he showed up and he delivered. No, he shines despite the fact that he's just sitting in a chair for about a total of 45 seconds for the four hours they had him on the job. He was crushing it. Yeah.
00:26:23
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Uh, we also get our first glimpses of Slade Craven and his crew. And boy, do they look goofy. He's the only one that's in full corpse paint, which I think doesn't help. The other guys just have like black lines drawn across her eye. He also has a very big bodyguard that I don't think has a name. And when he gets shot and nobody cares. Oh, really?
00:26:52
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And see, we also meet a couple of FBI agents who are on the trail of another character, a hacker named Nick, who's played by Craig Shafer. Uh, listeners probably remember Craig Shafer from Nightbreed or less likely for our audience, uh, Legends of the Fall. Hmm. Or maybe a river runs through it. I always get those two confused. He's in one of those.
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Uh, now Nick, the hacker played by Craig Shafer is a huge Slade Craven fan. So he, to even to the extent that he says to himself, Craven's on hacking is off.
00:27:35
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There's really so many. and So much great dialogue. He has a cyan bandana tied around his forehead and he's wearing little cyan sunglasses. It's a really goof and he should be a goth just to make all that shit black and it instantly looks at least 10% better. Yeah. Really bizarre choice. Very strange.
00:27:59
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ah Now, he then proceeds to hack into the broadcasters internal network and gain unfiltered access to the cameras that they have placed all around the plane. ah We get a brief scene of Goths going through a TSA check. We get to know a couple of Goths. There are a pair of ladies. There's a Hispanic looking dude, a Latin looking dude. And there's, um I don't know, there's one really freaky looking guy that really stands out and he looks like fucking evil. And especially when you're a crowd of Goths and you look evil, that's saying something.
00:28:36
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There's ah a kid with a bucket hat who's just there slowly go like Slade Craven. He's the one that always yells Slade Craven. Yeah, that's his job. And ah then, OK, I think that's technically every single character that we have to keep track of. No, there'll be more later.
Action Sequences and Character Dynamics
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Back at the FBI office, Kate has successfully located Nick Uh, Kate played by Gabrielle Anwar. I'm not sure if I mentioned that, but I'm going to reiterate it. Uh, listeners might know Gabrielle Anwar from Burn Notice. Oh yeah. She's probably done other stuff.
00:29:22
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center Scent of a woman. Oh yeah, Al Pacino danced with her. Oh, is she the titular woman? She's a woman. She's not the woman, I don't think. It should just be called women's assents.
00:29:38
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uh really okay okay he just goes around sniffing ladies he's he's a blind and so he can tell who a woman he goes oh it's mary i recognize your scent recognize your perfume person and whatever whoa why ah tell But I like to say that to people. No, even if it's true, you don't say that to people. There's also a B plot about Chris O'Donnell or Chris McConnell, whichever one was in Batman and Robin O'Donnell. I had to look that up. O'Donnell, he was in that and he ah he played a boy in a private school that had to watch out for scent of a woman. And also he had to decide whether or not to rat out his friends in a court of honor. Oh.
00:30:23
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Yeah. Yeah. I just remember seeing Gabrielle on water and being like, I've seen her do something. Yeah. And it turned out it was, yeah, various things. Well, you should watch burn notice. It's pretty good. Yeah. You don't like TV, but if you find yourself in the mood for TV, uh, she successfully located Nick.
00:30:47
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That's what Gabrielle and Ward did. Unfortunately, her boss, Frank, played by Joe Mantegna, says that actually arresting Nick is a field agent's job and they can do it tomorrow. Let's just call it a night. They'll do it tomorrow. It's so funny to me. We'll tell them tomorrow, too. We'll we'll tell them to see if they can get it on the schedule tomorrow. It's, yeah it's, you know, my wife. It's a formality at this point.
00:31:13
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I told my wife that I wouldn't miss dinner again and like, it's serious. ah Now, so yeah, they put that out tomorrow, but Kate does overhear while listening to her ah warrantless wiretap that Nick is ordering himself a pizza pie and that he can enjoy while watching his favorite musician's final concert aboard a 747.
00:31:40
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And ah hearing this gives Kate a little idea. ah Back at the airport, Slade and the band now get to go through security in what is essentially a dramatic recreation of the cucumber scene from This Is Spinal Tap. Like, I don't know how you can have this scene in a movie after This Is Spinal Tap. I would imagine.
00:32:06
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Yeah. I mean, I guess maybe you have to, maybe the whole movie is based around that scene from this is spinal tap. Now everybody gets to board the plane. We see Erica, the VJ being mean to people. Uh, we see, uh, Nick completes his hacking into the mainframe.
00:32:26
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We also get a glimpse in the bathroom that someone, we're not sure who, is assembling a gun from parts hidden inside metal plated goth boots. The same boots that we saw Slade Craven wearing in the previous TSA check scene, which raises the question, are they trying to do a genuine misdirect here? Are we supposed to believe that when Slade Craven pulls out a gun in the audience at a couple of scenes and starts threatening them?
00:32:56
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That that genuinely is Slade Craven. Were they trying to misdirect us? I don't think so, actually. Wait, what's the question again? Is this a misdirect? The first like if someone yeah was going into this movie, right? Were they supposed to think for a little while that Slade Craven is a terrorist trying to take over the place? I believe so, yes. That was my read on it. Oh, OK. I think they are trying to do that. I think they are doing a bad job.
00:33:26
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I would agree with you. And it so gives it a very, and also like the whole hook of the movie is the goth is the hero. Right. Like that's literally the only thing that you're going to know about this movie going into it. So you're never going to for a second buy that he is the bad guy. It doesn't make any sense. It's not recognizing what this movie is. Right.
00:33:55
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Now, after all this, we're finally ready for takeoff. We're just 34 minutes into the show, everybody. The plane is taking off now. Yeah, it it is wild how long it takes to get to what I would call the actual plot of the movie. Yes. Despite the fact that there is so much plot in this movie.
00:34:14
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But once like once Slade Craven kicks into action, the rest of the movie just like falls like Domino's like boop, boop, boop, boop. We're done. Yeah. Now, Slade chills out with the band in the plane's green room. This plane has a green room in it. And he declares, let's do the hustle. That's his catchphrase. This is the stupidest catchphrase for a goth person to say. Let's yeah hustle.
00:34:39
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Well, we sort of get the vibe when the band is backstage that everybody to some extent knows that this is a shtick, that this is like to shock people's parents and sell tickets. ah and At the same time, it still just doesn't make like, it doesn't, it just doesn't track. It just doesn't track at all. with me Yeah, they're not making clear enough choices. Yeah.
00:35:05
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Um, and, you know, the drummer is using his drumsticks as chopsticks. That's a good choice. Yeah. That's the ultimate rock and roll bad boy. Oh yeah. He doesn't care about your rules.
00:35:21
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Yeah. Uh, now, and I think the let's do the hustle sort of ties them into being like rock and roll or, you know, like this is just about the music. We're music guys underneath it all. Um, and it's also how he lets his band know that it's time to rock. They haven't even reached cruising altitude yet, but like we said, Slade doesn't care about anybody's rules.
00:35:49
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Word reaches the cabin and soon the passengers are rushing the plane's small performance area. It's basically the size of a nightclub. I think the crowd here, it's maybe 30 people tops. Sounds about right. I think it's specifically 40. Oh yeah. They say it's 40 in the tagline. It doesn't read as 40. No, that's fair. but Yeah.
00:36:12
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ah Anyway, the he performs his hit song, Love Gun, which culminates in Slade putting a fan in a prop electric chair and killing him before spitting out of the crowd, screw your miserable souls, and storming off stage. Kind of like maybe like a 12 year old goth might do.
00:36:42
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It's very he doesn't he doesn't sell it. But I do think that when John Mann is performing as Slade Craven in these concert scenes, that's probably his best performance in the movie. He does really like sell it. And yeah, that's fair. That's fair. You know, I think a lot of actors wouldn't be too self-conscious to do the kind of performance that he's doing here. And I think he really he I think he does a good job. And the music like.
00:37:11
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for what it is, it's pretty good. It's serviceable. think it yeah you think I think it works. There's some clumsy rhymes once in a while, but... Yeah. um it feels It feels a little bit like pastiche, but it's a good pastiche, I want to say. Sure. And and John Mann did also do the vocals. That is always nice. Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:37
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And it's it's interesting to compare the vocals in this to his vocals in Spirit of the West. They're very different. I go to fashion. This is there's not a lot of Irish folk rock in Slade Craven. Now, backstage, someone possibly Slade Craven shoots Slade's bodyguard in the back of the head. They don't know. Yeah.
00:38:07
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The only one that notices this is Nick, not even the band notices. No one else i' ever even mentions that the bodyguard is dead. Yeah. Poor guy. But then maybe if you had done his job, ah good news is Kate has shown up claiming to be a pizza delivery girl that happens to wear a silk blouse and a brown pantsuit.
00:38:35
Speaker
Yeah, the two of them ah sort of flirt and then she arrests him and he realizes that was her tracking him across the net the entire time. That's right, everybody. Yeah, we've got a worthy adversary. Here we go. yeah Here we go. I played the wrong one. Yeah, yeah.
00:39:04
Speaker
Good to hear it again though. That one we don't have much call for. We need to have a movie where it's somebody's birthday.
00:39:18
Speaker
That's right. We've got a worthy adversary. And I've gotten good news for you. I think the next movie that I will most likely pick, I think it does include a birthday. So I'm excited for that.
00:39:29
Speaker
Yeah. We got to get some more hosts pick schedule. maybe Maybe if we do another screening next month, that'll be your pick. Cool. ah Now, ah yeah, he says we're not so different, you and I. And then back on the plane, the audience members are wondering if Slade is ever going to return to play a second song at this concert, which almost definitely cost each of them at least four figures to attend. I'm going to say I would say these tickets would cost at least a thousand dollars. Guys played one song. ah He's also losing viewers on his Web site ah that on ZTV.
00:40:06
Speaker
And boy, they don't like that in the control room. And they're going up and down in the thousands. Yes, like he is losing literally a thousand viewers per second and gaining a thousand viewers per second every time he is now down. ah He was up above two million viewers. Now he's dipping down below two. And boy, that's not the direction you want to see this thing heading. No, it's it's harder to win them back than it is to get them in.
00:40:34
Speaker
And his band is just vamping. Yeah, they're really good at like doing industrial jam band type of stuff. yeah One cord for 20 minutes. So, Ethan, the cameraman goes backstage to get him while Nick shows Kate the footage of the murder that he saw. They're still at his apartment, by the way. They don't leave.
00:40:57
Speaker
ah Back on the plane, Captain Collins leaves Rutger Hauer at the helm so he can go make sure that his crazy passengers aren't tearing the plane apart with their rock and roll music. Craven returns to the stage.
00:41:13
Speaker
Or should I say Craven in question marks, in quotation marks, any kind of marks you want to put on there. You you just want to mark it down because Craven returns to the stage and he pulls out a gun. And after a little bit of monologuing and waving the gun around and shooting a blank. Yeah. He then shoots the captain with a blank.
00:41:39
Speaker
And then he's like, well, what if I shot him with a real bullet? And then he does that. It's very joker fight. Yeah. And everyone freaks out because someone just shot the captain in the chest and he's dead. Including the stewardesses. The two stewardesses didn't have names, but they were characters. They didn't really have an arc. Uh,
00:42:02
Speaker
Everyone is freaking out, but at least now Kate knows that ah Nick was telling the truth about that bodyguard getting shot. Slade takes Erica hostage, which prompts Benny back in the control room to cut the feed and call the FBI who send over Joe Mantegna of the cyber division for some reason. Maybe because there's a website involved.
00:42:28
Speaker
It only makes sense. The hostage negotiation guys in my book, I don't think they have to do, I mean, I'm sure he had to take the basic training, but you'd really want an expert. This seems advanced to me in a situation like this. All I know is you want two guys from the FBI and no more. You don't want to call anybody else. You don't want to get a team of people. You don't want to record anything.
00:42:53
Speaker
Uh, you know, by now, tens of millions of years. That's fair. That's fair.
00:43:01
Speaker
Now. All this has made Nick pretty suspicious. He thinks something is up. Something is different about old Slade Craven. It's curious. ah He and Kate.
00:43:16
Speaker
Run the names from the flight manifest against the names in the FBI database of criminals to see if any of the passengers are suspicious types. They find out that there's a passenger named Simon Flanders.
00:43:34
Speaker
Who is Simon Flanders?
00:43:39
Speaker
Well, it is. Yes, it's interesting because he has a record. They didn't they were just picking by name. Yeah. ah And they can't find him now on the footage, but he's got a ah record. And now they're looking around the cameras. Where'd Simon Flanders go? There's no Simon Flanders. That's weird. And then they say,
00:44:02
Speaker
Hey, do you have any voice pattern recognition software? And of course Nick is like, absolutely I do. And so they run a sample of Slade while he's singing versus a sample of Slade while he's threatening to murder people. And the computer's like, no match, 14% match, unlikely match.
00:44:25
Speaker
They're like, that's not Slade Craven. No, it's not. No, no, no. No, it is almost definitely going to turn out to be Simon Flanders, who a little bit more of ah research reveals that he's a member of a cult. ah The cult wants to open up a gateway to hell, install cemetery in Eastern Kansas. Shout out to Kansas.
00:44:49
Speaker
yes Uh, home of your literal gateway to hell. Uh, see, we soon learned that Simon is slayed craving in disguise or say, given Simon is skies rather. The real slave Craven is locked in the bowels of the ship. He's tied up, but luckily he's tied up in a room that's filled with communications equipment and also a box cutter to cut himself.
00:45:20
Speaker
No, everything he needs. It could have been worse for sure. ah Once he is free, ah he's able to get on that communications equipment. And first he talks to the FBI and the FBI is like, don't do anything you weird freak. And also we don't know 100% believe that you're you.
Climax and Resolution
00:45:41
Speaker
I'm looking at Sladegrave and he's waving a gun around.
00:45:44
Speaker
And then, uh, but then Nick cuts into the feed and he's like, I knew that wasn't you, Slade. I'm your number one fan, man. It's great to talk to you. Let's team up. yeah We've got to do something, but they're not quite sure what yet.
00:46:02
Speaker
Backraven does verify that it's him to the FBI by remembering his income tax bill from the previous year, which was yeah four million something. Yeah, that's scarier than any damn song I ever wrote.
00:46:20
Speaker
Think about it. Think about it. Think about it. Now, Back in the theater section of the plane, Ethan the cameraman tries to save Erika the reporter who is being held hostage. In the struggle, Simon loses both his wig, revealing that he is not slayed and also he loses his gun. Erika quickly retrieves the gun, but turns out she's in on the whole thing. Move over, M Knight.
00:46:53
Speaker
and gentlemen Also, it's revealed that Rucker Howard is in on it too. Isn't that weird? Isn't that weird? So the three of them, they're a team, they're a trifecta. Erica appears to be the leader. I also, I don't know when this happens. It's like whenever the captain leaves the cockpit, Rucker Howard's like, finally I'm alone.
00:47:13
Speaker
And he takes a CD rom out of his jacket pocket and just plugs it into the CD player in the airport in the airplane. First off, it's like airplanes just have CD players. You can just captain's can just blaze out to some music when they're up there in the sky or something. It's interesting. Yeah, you got to do something.
00:47:35
Speaker
either people like rocking rocking a free bird up in the up in the sky. ah But also I listen to this sp soundtrack for eight hours straight i love that he he's no case on the CD-ROM.
00:47:50
Speaker
It's like a CD round. I love the idea of this like crazy man who's part of a cult being like, I got to burn that CD at classical music. So when I take over that plane, I can take it out of my pocket and I can put it in the machine in there. Cause I know that they have that and I don't have a case for it, but it's fine. Like the whole, it's, it's too much for me. It's, it's wild. And I'm going to tell you what's a little bit too much for me is that they are going to, this is the elements that they needed for this plan to succeed.
00:48:21
Speaker
yeah They needed to have someone in the cockpit of the plane that was in their cult that was also flying for someone who was going to be doing an internet broadcast that could possibly rope in tens of millions of years. And they would also need someone that looks exactly like that person. So convincingly that they could fool his bandmates And his bands friends and they've got to be a member of the cult because you can't just pull someone in off the street to be like, Hey, would you like to murder people up in the sky when we crash a plane into a cemetery? You know, that's not a question. You can just broach.
00:49:04
Speaker
No. So I think when they saw all these puzzle pieces fall into place, they're like, it's a sign. Yeah. This is going to work. No, that's fair. That's fair. You do burn. You do burn a CD-ROM for that. You do burn a CD-ROM for that. Yeah. Like, God damn it. I am feeling good. I'm going to get my favorite tunes. I'm going to go out on top. Now. During the fracas.
00:49:32
Speaker
Erica shoots lead guitar player Damon. Craven saw the whole thing on his little monitor that he had. They killed his ax man. This time it's personal. Yeah. It hasn't been personal up until this point, but it is now. yeah They killed some other idiots. That's not my fucking business. This time they killed my guy. Simon comes down into the hold to grab Slade so they can kill him on camera.
00:50:00
Speaker
Now that they've got 10 million viewers, the number that they need to open the door to hell. But Slade jumps him and cold cocks him with a pipe. Then heads upstairs where he then fights Erica. I also would like to point out that he does not tie his hands and he does not close that door. No, he's like, well, I'm going to have to worry about him. Problem solved. Yeah.
00:50:25
Speaker
And stay down. And I was like, shout I was like, I was like, you're not going to tie him up and you're going to leave the door. Oh, I was incredulous. I was upset. Yeah. Well, the good news is it does come back to bite him. No, I know. right Oh, I know. ah Upstairs, Erica and Craven fight and he ends up ah killing her with his prop electric chair, which is crazy.
00:50:55
Speaker
Yeah, how does that happen? He like they shred a microphone cord. I think the XLR cable had a lead cable in it. It's just like, I don't think it does. Yeah, I was pretty sure it's just meant to it's like, you don't really send a signal through the XLR cable. You send it. I mean, you do, but you send it outward. Yeah, inward. Like if you were to pump a bunch of electricity and shove it into ah a microphone, you might you might ruin it.
00:51:24
Speaker
It's true. Yeah, even a little bit of phantom power is not going to, you know, give you that kind of damage. Yeah. ah But it it definitely kills Erica. Oh, it works. That's for certain. Yeah. Yeah, that's for sure. Slade Craven goes over to Damon's dead body and closes his eyes and says to better days. Let's do the hustle. Yeah. He's such a cool dude. He is. Yeah.
00:51:53
Speaker
He's really cool. That's our Slade. So Slade's next opponent is a little bit trickier. Uh, he heads to the cockpit armed with Erica's gun and he tells Rucker Howard to land the plane safely and Rucker, he refuses and he's asked him, do you know how to fly the plane? And Slade says no.
00:52:21
Speaker
And so Rutgers like, well, then, uh, let's just sit back and relax. If you shoot me, you're going to die anyway. Uh, I really liked this opera music. He says it's so perfect. And then he shoots himself in the head. Hmm. So I don't want to like, I don't want to be weird or morbid or like get FBI attention or anything, but like, if you want to crash a plane into a specific area, you need to like,
00:52:51
Speaker
You can't just like, and this goes back to the question of the autopilot, too. Like, you can't just be like, put her down here and the plane will be like, you got it. Like, like you need to drive the plane into something if you want to drive it into something. Right. Like you need to actually. I mean, like it'll fall out of the sky, obviously. But if you're looking for a specific spot.
00:53:12
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think the cemetery is big enough that you can just sort of hope. I think you got a little bit closer than he was. It's insane to me that going back to what you were saying, all the things that they need to make this thing work out. And in the end, they're like, and then we just shoot the pilot and then it just crashes through. Easy peasy. It's like you probably want to keep the person alive to really make sure you hit that door to hell. Yeah, they blew. I mean, record error was a pilot. He could have done it.
00:53:42
Speaker
And I think, uh, but, and I think maybe at that point also he knew who knows I'm overthinking it. He didn't know shit. It just happened. It's just a movie where things happen.
00:53:54
Speaker
so ah So it seems like all is lost, but luckily Nick isn't just a hacker. He's also a flight simulator guy. Yeah. I have a feeling that this movie was written by a person who plays a lot of flight simulator.
00:54:12
Speaker
That's what I think. That's a strong instinct. ah So yeah yeah in the beginning, ah there's a lot of discussion about terms or it's like, did you flick on the whatever and do this? Did you turn up the thing to that? It's like, why is any of this in this movie other than the fact that you know that this information? I speculated at the time to Chris that that first scene read like Rutger Hauer had just gotten his commercial pilot's license and wanted to show off.
00:54:42
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it very, it very much feels just like, by the way, I understand the things inside of planes. It's like, I believe you. I called the pilot and asked him what you would do in a pre flight check. And he told me these five things and I wrote them down. But also like the end, which I don't want to spoil, but we are coming up to it. There's a lot of discussion about the actual things you have to do to land the plane. And I was like, and I feel like this is someone who knows the basics.
00:55:12
Speaker
because they have played a lot of flight simulators, but doesn't actually really understand like it's never done yet. No, I thought I felt like it was enough to sell me on it in the moment. I feel like the plane landing sequence is one of the better sequences. And I would agree with you. And again, this is why I say like played a lot of flight simulators understand the basics of a plane landing feels very confident.
Final Thoughts and Reviews
00:55:35
Speaker
Yeah. And I'm writing a scene about plane land.
00:55:39
Speaker
To me, it feels almost like ah like an episode of a medical drama where they're just throwing out like, I need CC's a line of cane or whatever. yeah And you're like, yeah yeah, like using jargon just sells you on the moment. I feel like now ah but but but but but but he's a flight simulator guy now with Nick's help. Slade is able to pull the plane out of a dive, but now the autopilot isn't working.
00:56:08
Speaker
Slade is going to have to land the plane as well. He rips the inverted cross pendant off his neck and prays that he can land the plane. It's crazy. I love this moment so much. So now is not the time for this inverted cross pendant. Damn it. I mean, darn it.
00:56:33
Speaker
Meanwhile, Simon has woken up in the cargo hold and the two of them have to fight again. Yeah. Slade takes care of him and with Nick's help ah successfully lands the plane in Kansas City. Different minor characters kiss each other. Kate slaps the cuff on Nick and tells him to eat her pussy and then Slade reunites with two of his three bandmates and everyone who is alive is happy. The end. Hooray! Hooray! I loved the various characters kissing because, like, i do do Nick and Kate kiss in that scene? I'm not sure. um They do kiss in the movie, right? I'm not sure.
00:57:22
Speaker
So I know that there was like you see like a moment between them that makes you think, OK, like have you been into them getting together? And I certainly was. It's like good for you. And then you see like one of the young women who found the cameraman like hug him. And then you see the other young woman who found the man in the electrical chair like kiss him. And then it cuts to the the booth.
00:57:47
Speaker
where you see the the producer and the woman at the computer hug each other and at that moment I was like Oh, maybe they should kiss, actually. And then it's just a Joe Mantegna and his guy that he is with. And they don't do anything, but the guy that he's with is staring at Joe Mantegna and licking his lips a little bit. And I was just like, this is incredible. This is so good.
00:58:22
Speaker
And then they cut to like the air traffic control tower, where it's just like two guys and a pilot. And they're all just like, yes. o It's, it's just, just wonderful. Just a wonderful sequence. Well, final thoughts, five star ratings. Where do people land on turbulence, three heavy metal? Does anybody want to start?
00:58:46
Speaker
I'll start for me. This is a solid five stars. Yeah. Yeah. It's a very approachable, very fun movie. I think more people need to see. Turbulence, three heavy metal. I think it's one of the nice thing about a bad movie that has like. Still has competent bones, like it's still a movie that you can run beginning to end. I love when that happens. Yeah, it just makes the one incredibly weird decision.
00:59:16
Speaker
of making the lead character Slade Craven. It's so weird. And and it it, every time you see him, it's insane. So ah yeah, definitely check out to a real story.
00:59:31
Speaker
Uh, so I'll go next. Uh, so like it is a really bizarre movie. It's, it's crazy that it's like the plot is like, as you said, it's like goth rocker saves plane from terrorists. Basically. That is literally 15 minutes of the movie. Yeah. right Like the only time, like, it's just like.
00:59:54
Speaker
Like it takes, I think I wrote it down. It's almost like 57 minutes for him to get out of that room and be like, I'm taking over this plane. And that involves electrocuting a woman. And that's mostly it. Slade, the other guy comes back. They do have a fight with each other, but I mean, it's like a fight that you and I could have. Yeah. They just sort of shove each other wrestling and pushing a little bit, you know.
01:00:19
Speaker
um it's It's incredible. It's very stupid. I'm giving this one a five star. ah It is just very, very dumb. It feels a lot like um if this movie were an equivalent in a comedy movie, if this movie itself could be, if the analogy of this movie could be a scene in a movie,
01:00:41
Speaker
it would be like an adult maybe at a wedding talking really excited about doing a bunch of things like having a good time and getting food and doing all this stuff and then the camera cuts to who he's talking to and it's just a bunch of children and they have no response You know what I mean? He's like, who's with me? And then it cuts to the kids and they're just staring at him. But then when it cuts back, he's going, come on. And he's running because the whole movie is like, you with me? And it's like, I don't know that I am actually. I don't know if I can go there with you. But I love that it wants to. And it's just doing it without me. And it's so stupid. And it's just a blast. Like you showed it to me a long time ago and I enjoyed it. And I remember looking forward to it, seeing it again. I was like, I forgot.
01:01:26
Speaker
What a joy this movie is. like This is just a solid joy. It's a five-star, definitely. I'm glad to hear it. What about you, my dad? I was going to give it four stars, but then I remembered that you didn't even mention that director stop now parishes when the entire air traffic controller in San Diego blows up for some reason. So I think that's a five star movie. There's so much in it. I wanted to talk about the like clearly one sided conversation where they did not record the other person. So they just have Joe Montana being like, oh, did you just tell me that you're going to do that? Well, I don't want it's just so many good things in this movie. There's so many good things.
01:02:10
Speaker
Yes, it is a, a cornucopia of delights, a rich text. Uh, with that, do you want to hear about some other people that also love turbulence three heavy metal? Cause I've got a review review. Yes.
01:03:14
Speaker
kind of a low energy time. I might need to take a third stab at a review review song. I'll mull it over. Anyway, IMDB gave ah Turbulence 3 Heavy Metal a 3.7 out of 10.
01:03:31
Speaker
It seems a little low, a little bit low. I think it's come on. You got to at least break four. But I found three. No, I'm sorry. I found two 10 out of 10 ratings and one one out of 10 rating. OK, good. I like this. It's a shotgun blast. Yeah. So first, a 10 out of 10. Good fun romp.
01:03:59
Speaker
I don't care what some of the idiots below have written. They obviously spend too much time sat in their pathetic bedrooms, writing rubbish reviews as their lives are unfulfilled and they are just sad, lonely geeks.
01:04:16
Speaker
as a test but okay
01:04:20
Speaker
Tarsh. Really hostile. Yeah. This was a great film. Good fun. And I loved it. Not only because Rutger was in it. Come on, guys. Look at the film for what it is about and trying to get a life. Six exclamation points. Okay. Great film. Watch it. All caps.
01:04:45
Speaker
Uh, the whole thing is that is about having a laugh, not being a sad, lonely film reviewer. Brilliant stuff. Yeah. Totally worth the rental fee. So more of an attack on negative reviews than anything really. but Yeah. Well, let let's see what he was responding to. Here's a one out of 10 review. Okay.
Audience Reactions and Music Discussion
01:05:11
Speaker
Deserves a negative rating.
01:05:13
Speaker
ah everybodys i destroy reactions for turbulence three It's a polarizing film to be sure. This movie is based on a lie. What? The title heavy metal is the starting lie. Okay. Okay. No, I like what this person is saying. I like what this person is saying.
01:05:37
Speaker
It's a reference to the music, but the music in this garbage film is not heavy metal. The music is industrial goth rock. It is right. No, I can't argue against it. You want heavy metal, try bands like Iron Maiden, Man of War, Judas Priest. Those bands are heavy metal. The other lie is the Christian lie. That metal is devil music.
01:06:06
Speaker
Anything they don't understand is devil-related. Christians have always been that way. Using metal as a platform to have a sicko want to attack a Christian cult is wrong. Do not watch this garbage! Okay, so first off, I just want to say, no one is reviewing the movie. They're just reviewing society.
01:06:29
Speaker
I mean, that's how you review movies. That's fair. The best art holds a mirror up to society. That's fair. ah but But my other favorite part is like, like first point, they lied. It's not about metal music. Second point, everything they said about metal is wrong. It's like, but they didn't talk about metal music. They were talking about gods music.
01:06:54
Speaker
Well, let's let's leave this on a ah positive note.
01:06:59
Speaker
Songs from the movie, 10 out of 10. I liked the movie personally, but what I really want to know is who sang the songs for the movie? No. I loved the song, Just Shoot Me Baby, and I've been trying to find the artist. I searched on LimeWire, and I looked at John Mann, and I got nothing. If anyone can let me know who sings the song so I can find it, please notify my ASAP. Thank you very much.
01:07:26
Speaker
I mean, I know the songs sound like Marilyn Manson mixed with orgy and corn. The song that was in the movie was so cool. I was so determined to have a copy that i ended up taking a microphone and my boombox, placing it to the speaker of the TV and recording it. I just can't believe that I can't find the artists on here.
01:07:45
Speaker
Good news. I will have that song as our closing song. I'll be playing it in its entirety. Nice. That's very sweet. Yeah. And did you get it off of LimeWire? No, I isolated it from the movie. That's fair. ah So that that is the review review. i I think I found some good ones this week. No, I really liked those three very much.
01:08:13
Speaker
I think they really they they showed a lot of assets and facets of the film that we didn't discuss as much. as Yeah. have I also just really happy that someone saw this movie and was just like, I love that song. I love that song called was
Trivia Game and Bonus Discussion
01:08:29
Speaker
shoot me, baby. It's actually called Love None, but okay the hook was just shoot me, baby. Yeah.
01:08:39
Speaker
I think it is the best song in the film. I would agree with you. I'd like it more than I would agree with you. I mean, I think actually the one I have is the other one. I have electric metal, I think is what it was called. Or maybe electric razor. Yeah, the electric razor. Yeah, I have electric razor, which is just named after Clippers, I guess.
01:09:02
Speaker
that I feel like they were trying to like make a razor more dangerous, but like it's electric. It's like, you know, an electric razor is the thing that I am. That's already a thing for noon to like trim my beard, right? Yeah, you can't you can't call it that. That's already something else. Well, you guys want to play a game? Yeah. All right. Let's play a little. This guy played that guy.
01:09:51
Speaker
All right. So we're going to play a little bit of this guy played that guy for the films of Craig Shafer. All right. Yes. Once again, you might know him from night breed, but he's also done just a lot of garbage. Uh, so, and at the end of the round, there's going to be a bonus question that will be worth three points. Ooh.
01:10:19
Speaker
But there's going to be nine questions. It'll be a buzz in game. And I will give you the title of the film and the description of the film and three character names. I want you to know, tell me which one was played by Craig Shafer. Ready? Yes. All right. Question number one. Voyage of the rock aliens. Aliens land in a town called Spielberg searching for the source of rock and roll.
01:10:51
Speaker
Did Craig Shafer play Knopkier, Frankie or mouth? Greg. Greg. Frankie. Correct. Greg is on the board. Question number two in pursuit of honor.
01:11:13
Speaker
In 1932, a modernizing U.S. Army orders the cavalry to destroy its horses, ah leading some cavalry members to steal their horses in an order to save them. This is wild. What's the name of this again? In pursuit of honor. Did Dren Shafer play Lieutenant Buxton, General MacArthur, or Sergeant Libby? Anna. Anna.
01:11:42
Speaker
Lieutenant Buxton. Correct. Anna's on the board. Question number three. Fly paper. When lust and dishonesty bring these strangers together, their sexual behaviors and kinky escapades lead to violence and a twist ending. Ooh. Did Craig Shafer play Joe, Bobby Ray, or Marvin? Greg. Greg?
01:12:11
Speaker
Did he play Bobby Ray? You guys are on fire tonight. yeah Wow. Two to one. All right. Question number four, turbulence to fear of flying. A flight carrying a group of people returning home from a course to help with their fear of flying is hijacked by a terrorist. Did Craig Shafer play Sykes, captain Reynolds or Martin? Anna.
01:12:40
Speaker
Anna. Martin. Correct. It's neck and neck. You might come down to the bonus question. Oh boy. Question number five. Berserker Hell's Warrior. A Viking warrior is cursed to be reborn lifetime after lifetime and faded to love and lose until the curse is lifted. Did Craig Shafer play boar, moored or kogla?
01:13:11
Speaker
Oof. Greg? Greg. Like Kogla? Nope, he did not play Kogla. Anna, can you steal? Bored? I'm sorry, he played boar. Well, boar. The score starts high. There's an interesting one to parse.
01:13:37
Speaker
Question number six. Flying virus. A journalist uncovers a government conspiracy to unleash virus carrying killer bees that can wipe out humanity. Did Craig Shafer play Martin, Ezekiel, or savior? Greg. Anna. Greg. Ezekiel.
01:14:03
Speaker
Anna can you steal? Martin. God, I was going to say Martin, too. That's a certain thing that we've had in the game. I love it. All right. And it takes a lead three to two. Question number seven. Battle dogs. A werewolf virus is unleashed upon New York and Major Hoffman looks for a cure while Lieutenant General Manning wants to establish a new canine army.
01:14:33
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jesus Did Shafer play Lieutenant General Manning, Major Hoffman, or President Sheridan?
01:14:45
Speaker
Greg. Greg? Major Hoffman? Correct. It is tied up again. Whoo. We got a heater tonight, folks. Question number eight. Guns and Moses. Nice.
01:15:03
Speaker
A beloved small town rabbi in the high desert becomes an unlikely gunslinger after his community is attacked. Did Craig Shafer play Saul Fastbinder, Tibor Farkas, or a Rabbi Mo Zaltzman? and Anna. Anna? I think he played the rabbi. No, I'm sorry. He did not play Rabbi Mo Zaltzman.
01:15:30
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What are the other two? Saul Fastbinder or Tibor Farkas? Tibor Farkas. Correct. Tibor Farkas. Dang it. I've lost track of the score. It's fine. I think it's tied up. Question number nine. The grave. Inmates escape from prison after learning of a treasure that is supposedly buried with a dead millionaire.
01:16:00
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Did Craig Shafer play Cletus? Boo! Or King? Who? Anna. Anna? King! Correct! Hey! So I think technically now we're tied. Yeah, I think now we're tied again. Okay, well then it's gonna come down to this. This is a tie-breaker question. Is this an actual bonus question?
01:16:25
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Yes, I have a bonus question. Do you always prepare a bonus question? No, I did this for the first time. Okay, it's just wild to me that this is worked out this way. I know, right? ah Gabriel Anwar and Craig Shafer were dating for a large portion of their lives and they would, for some reason, appeared in a lot of movies together. Maybe they had the same agent and would come as sort of a package deal. I'm not entirely sure how it worked.
01:16:50
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but it seemed to work out that way out of these nine films. How many of them also featured Gabriel and war, whoever is closest without going over. No, whoever's closest. How many have we read? Was it eight or nine? Nine. Nine. So you read nine already. Yes, that was all nine. This four. All right. What about you? and I'm going to say six.
01:17:19
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It was three, three of them discovered a wider segment of his career. They're only together for about five or six years. And this man has been working for a while, but still great job. Congratulations to Greg on a hard pot victory. Thank you. You guys want to give out some baddy awards? I certainly sure do.
01:18:05
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Congratulations to all the nominees! That's right. Congratulations to all our nominees.
01:18:17
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It's the Batty Awards. Who wants to give out their Batty Award first? I can go. I can. No, no. Do you want to go, Anna? Uh, sure. Sure. Um, I can go and my Batty Award, uh, next in a series. Hey, that unincorporated community was
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01:18:37
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on supernatural. Nice.
01:18:44
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ah Specifically Stull Cemetery. stolens ah It's basically a ghost town. um I think even at its peak it had 50 people. um But the the legend of the cemetery being cursed comes from a 1974 article in the Daily Kansan which is the newspaper of KU, Kansas University, um because Stull is really near Lawrence, which is where KU's located.
01:19:20
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um So basically basically, it's just ah it's a ah university legend. And I don't know, probably not as much anymore, but Stull Cemetery would be someplace that you know, college kids would would go on Halloween and get themselves arrested. um um And it was ah the um ah setting of ah the climax of season five of Supernatural. Oh, that was season five. Yes. Yeah.
01:19:58
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Oh, for some reason I thought it was from season one. I guess it has been a while since we've watched super new. Nope. It was the the scene of the standoff between, uh, Sam as Lucifer and, uh, Dean and Cass. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, what about you, Greg? Do you have a bad word? Yeah, I sure, I sure do. Uh, so this, I'm going to award this film.
01:20:23
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because I ah can't because I can't give it to one character because it's actually split up over two. It introduces a ah technique, a narrative technique that I find interesting. I call it the reverse narrator. ah There are two scenes where it is Joe Montana doing this. And then in another scene near the end, basically what it is is that like the end of every act, someone wraps up what has just happened ah throughout the previous act.
01:20:51
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So it's like on the phone, Joe Mantegna is like, let me get this straight. You went over to bust a hacker that we've been tracking down and now you're calling me and you're asking me to check out an internet feed because someone's been shot. And it's just like, thank you for summing it up because it was actually pretty convoluted.
01:21:11
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And then later he's like, so let me get this straight. You're telling me so they're trying to crash a plane into a cemetery with 10 minutes. And then at the end, it's like someone in like an air come flight, air flight tower being like, so let me get this straight. We've got someone in there who doesn't know how to fly a plane. And it's just like, I love this very stupid and form of exposition.
01:21:36
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but also thank you because the movie is so convoluted. It is yeah so convoluted. It's also refreshing to just hear someone be like, this script I'm going to be a little incredulous about this script because it's a little incredulous. All the things that are happening.
01:21:53
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Yeah, these are some unlikely circumstances. and So let me get this straight. Let me get this straight. My Batty Award is going to go to best goth in the crowd. And that's going to be the gal with the red sunglasses and the red bangs, you know?
01:22:13
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that's Go out there and be yourself, young goth lady. I think that was a solid look. Anytime they'd pan across a crowd, you'd see her with her one accent color of bright red. Everyone else is in black and you're like, oh, she pops. Oh, hey, hey, a little, a little color in your life. Not too bad. So shout out to you, my favorite goth in the goth crowd.
01:22:38
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