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Episode 51: Money Plane featuring Mark Hensley
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Good friend of the podcast Mark Hensley talks with Chris and Greg about the 2020 action thriller Money Plane. It contains all three Lawrence brothers (with Andrew directing), Kelsey Grammer, Thomas Jane, Denise Richards and WWE’s The Edge (Adam Copeland). It delights Chris, exasperates Mark and confuses Greg so it’s largely a success. It also sends Chris down an interesting rabbit hole. Tune in to see if you’ll follow.
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Introduction and Movie Overview
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Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to your favorite bad movie podcast. It's the only podcast that's brave enough to ask the question, if this movie's so bad, why do you like it so much?
00:00:53
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We're your hosts. My name is Chris Anderson. And with me, as always, i have the Monroe to my McGillicuddy, Greg Bossy. Greg, how are you doing? I am doing great, Mr. McGillicuddy. It's good to see you.
00:01:06
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It's good to see you. Unfortunately, we do not have Anna here this week, but we do have a very special guest, a man I am honored and proud to call my friend, the original Rumble, Mr. Mark Hensley. Mark, how are you doing?
00:01:22
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ah You know, I just live. All right. that's That's all we can ask in this day and age. Am I right? I think so, yeah. Well, listeners,
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This week we're talking about the movie Money Plane.
Summary and Initial Impressions
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Mark chose Money Plane. And if you haven't seen Money Plane, here's a short summary of Money Plane.
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There's only one way master thief Jack Reese can clear his debts. Robbing an airborne casino filled with the world's most powerful criminals. The so-called money plane.
00:02:06
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Yeah. Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, I think that that that's what happens in the movies, I think. Yeah.
00:02:18
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Now, Mark, tell us about how you came to know Money Plane, why you chose Money Plane. I genuinely forget why i even saw the trailer for money plane, but I was like, the title kind of just like, you know, sells itself for sure. Yeah. yeah It's like snakes on a plane was a bit too on the nose, but I'm like money plane. I mean, you know, yeah. what I buy it.
00:02:43
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Who can say what a money plane is? I don't, I don't know. Yeah. They did invent the term money. Like there isn't a, I know there's like a money train, but is there, is there a money plane? Is there a money train? You would never know if there was, you would never know it.
00:02:56
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Okay. All right. I thought there was a money train. I thought there was a New York city, a train car that went and collected all the tolls or whatever. well I think there's a movie called money train, right? Yeah, there is. Yes. Yeah.
00:03:07
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And they're robbing that train. Yes. That's Woody Harrelson and Wesley Snipes. Yeah. Classic team up. They're robbing the money train. Or are they cops?
00:03:19
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ah They might be. You know, this is not about money. They might be cops guarding the money train. You might be right about that. You might be right about that. They might be dirty cops robbing the money train. Money trains are boring. Let's get to a plane. that fine Yeah, let's get up in the air. A plane can go anywhere. A train is so defined. It's practically on rails.
00:03:39
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Exactly. Now... ah Well, Mark, and what what do you love about Money Plane? What made it your pick? Because you you had this one pretty much right off the jump when I asked you.
Behind the Scenes of 'Money Plane'
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ah Yeah, it's it's the only movie ah I've given a in my reviewing an F+. Okay. Because think it's atrocious, but it's like it's confounding. like amen i had Oh, yeah.
00:04:05
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mean, having seen it like three times, like I'm not sure how much is tongue-in-cheek. I'm not sure exactly what they're going for. And I'm still not clear why they're on a money plane, to be honest.
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Yeah. Yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough. I've got some, I've got a number of questions now that I've seen it twice about the actual plot of Money Plane that we're going to get into at some point. No, absolutely. It, it asks a lot of questions and it doesn't have a lot of answers.
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Greg, how, how did you come across Money Plane? I know Money Plane because I know Mark here. ah We get together, we play video games, and on occasion we watch movies, and he was like, we should watch Money Plane. I watched it. I think you'd like it.
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And so three of us watched Money Plane, and he was 100% correct about that. It's a good time. Well, I got to say, I hadn't seen it before. I watched it for the podcast on Mark's request, and I thought it was great, too.
00:04:58
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And I'm going to go ahead, I'm going to say, I think this movie is just sort of genuinely good. I think this movie is unironically good. I can't tell if you're being ironic when you say that or not. Genuinely.
00:05:11
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part of it is that I did my context research before I watched the movie. And I think a big part of that is what I found out in context. Oh, you guys want to hear what I found out. I would love i would love to hear more context because yeah I know it's got like four writers and it's directed by Lawrence's brother. But like, I don't know if there's more to it than that.
00:05:30
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Oh, there's much more. I'm excited.
00:05:44
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I wish I had some context About the background of the film Script director, actors on set What was going on on screen?
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I wanna hear some details Gossip stand to all that shit Can imagine all the time
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So Money Plane was released July 10th, 2020. Director Andrew Lawrence with the tagline, an explosive casino heist in the sky. Something from like 1950. Yeah. yeah It's a throwback.
00:06:32
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Yeah. You know, he grabs you. You don't need to overhype Money Plane. The Money Plane is already doing all the hype for you. That's true. you don't need to put a hat on a hat.
Plot Analysis and Humor
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Now, Andrew Lawrence is the youngest of the three Lawrence brothers. Oldest brother Joey found fame on the classic teen sitcom Blossom, while middle brother Matthew was in Mrs. Doubtfire and Boy Meets World.
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Andrew never quite reached that level of success as an actor. He did land a good amount of voice work and a couple of bit parts here and there, but he never reached the same level of on-camera success.
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ah But he is the only one to find some success directing, with eight feature films under his belt. What? The most of any of the Lawrence brothers. Eight? The most of in They've all directed movies? Matthew has not directed. Okay. And ah Joey has directed some episodes of television, but no feature films.
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Okay. Okay.
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Now, this was not Andrew Lawrence's original concept. What? It was the brainchild of producer Richard Switzer and his producing partner, Tyler W. Connie.
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Switzer began producing films in 2015 at the young age of 18, backed with seed money from a family friend. He's probably been on an actual money plane. He's like just referencing his experience.
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Yeah. yeah Yeah. This is just drawn from his real life. This is autobiographical. He robbed the money plane. He was the right. He's trying to let us all know. Yeah. every Every lie is a confession.
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He has since produced over 80 films ah with more on the way. ah Most of them finding distribution on cable, direct-to-disc, or direct-to-streaming. Now, Switzer and Connie, they wanted to ah make a heist movie.
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But they also wanted to make an airplane movie. Now, they also had a working relationship with Andrew Lawrence. Switzer had produced Lawrence's debut and only previous film, The Office Mix-Up.
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That's an awful title. Yeah. It's not as catchy as Money Plane, but the pieces are really falling together here, though. It's really exciting already. ah Yeah, I love to if when I can weave a story in this first act. and This has really landed me... I found a really good... ah oral history of money plane that I drew a lot of my research from.
00:09:17
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This is wild. Now, ah it was Andrew Lawrence who says, how about ah casino heist on a plane? And what if we make it a little bit campy?
00:09:32
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It is. that you mention it, it's slightly campy. It's actually, it it goes a little campy. It's kids's got a hint of camp in there. And I think that's why it works.
00:09:44
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you For me, it works because it's like, if you look at as this is an independent action comedy where they're sort of goofing around and there are some stakes. This is great.
00:09:56
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thing You know what I mean? it never This is a solid double. It never seems like it's, it's not funny though, actually. It's not. I keep wanting to think it's an action comedy. I thought Thomas Jane was genuinely hilarious. okay So I will. So Thomas Jane is doing something that not a lot of other people in this movie are doing. And that's called acting.
00:10:16
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I don't know he's doing. Smoking a pipe also. Yes. That was
Absurdities and Plot Holes
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his idea. Yeah. Well, good for him. Cause it's great. But I feel like you kind of have to divorce him from the rest of the movie.
00:10:28
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Cause he's just like, he's just like, I'm just here with a kid playing some video games. And that like, that's all that he does. No, that. Thomas Jane in that very first scene, when he is talking to the edge, he is crushing what this movie wants to be.
00:10:47
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He is, he walks it right up to that line. He's perfect in it. I think he nailed it just like Kelsey Grammer nails it. I think the two of them anchor this movie and they're the two that really understand the tone. But I think also Matthew Lawrence really understands the tone.
00:11:03
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Do mean Matthew or Joey? Because I was thinking you were going to say Joey. Joey also gets it. I think all three Lawrence brothers are locked into what this movie ought to be. Was Matthew the ah yeah like ah cowboy?
00:11:16
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Matthew was cowboy. Joey was concierge. Oh, okay. And Andrew was Iggy. Well, so this earlier, I was thinking, and i was like walking over the couch. I was like, that cowboy really stands out. Like he doesn't strike me as being a criminal. What kind of crime did cowboy do? He should be a goddamn star.
00:11:34
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Yeah. He should be. Because he's so damn lucky. He's a goddamn lucky star. Well, I would say if there's some camp in it that it's divorced from the rest of it. It's like there are times when it's campy and then there are times when it's money playing.
00:11:48
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but yeah um That's the thing is that like, that's what's so inexplicable about it is like the script isn't campy, but like randomly it is. I'm sorry. When he says you want to see a guy fucking alligator, that's campy.
00:12:03
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The script is campy. Well, I don't know. and You can't tell me you want to bet on a dude fucking an alligator isn't campy. Come on. so the only got that win I think they thought it was cool.
00:12:16
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These are comedy stars in this movie. The Lawrence brothers worked in sitcoms for years. So when they said they're like, we're betting on a guy fucking an alligator.
00:12:27
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My only thought was, what are they betting on though? It's true. There's no real way to wager on that. Yeah. it's just like, he's gonna... It's who comes first.
00:12:39
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I think it's about if he can fuck an alligator. Okay. I assumed was how long it would be until he died. Okay. Maybe you can bet on all these things.
00:12:51
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Maybe you can bet on when he dies. Maybe you can bet if he can penetrate the alligator. Maybe you can bet on who comes first. this is This is so much more thought. I feel like we're putting more thought into this than the people who made it. On the money plane, you can bet on anything. That's the real premise the money plane. that.
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know that. But that's the thing. They don't do anything on the plane, though. No. That's the crazy part. That's the part that makes me lose my mind. It's like, they're like, we're in international waters. We can do anything.
00:13:18
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And then there's like, all right, first of all, play poker. And it's like, yeah yeah yeah yeah, we can, we can play poker. Yeah, sure. It's like, then we can ah watch a man, a fucking alligator.
00:13:29
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and it's like, oh, like in person, like i video. No, no, no. We got to do that somewhere else. you did The act, the act of it is not an international air or, or water, but the watching and the betting on it.
00:13:42
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it's This is a recording. It's not happening live. It's live leak. It's a live leak. It's a live leak video you get to watch and bet on. It's not. Yeah. But we're getting ahead of ourselves.
00:13:54
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Anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway. They wanted something along the lines of snakes on a plane. Something exciting, but with a level of self-awareness of its own silliness.
00:14:05
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They also wanted to do something of a throwback to the mid-budget action movies of the ninety s Though, ironically, not the movie Money Train, because none of them had seen the movie Money Train. Okay.
00:14:17
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But once they got a script together, they assembled their cast. They brought on Kelsey Grammer to bring a sort of sideshow Bob quality to their villain. And Grammer thought he could have fun with a mustache twirling bad guy.
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Adam Copeland, perhaps better known to listeners as WWE wrestler The Edge... or perhaps AEW wrestler Cope. He was largely cast because ah he could do his own stunts, but he was excited get on board because he'd be able to do his own acting.
00:14:53
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Yeah. Well, he didn't quite do that, but... No, he he he is, I'm going to say, the weak point, I got to say, for me, unfortunately. He also, what stunts did he do?
00:15:06
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He did the fighting with the ah guy in the cockpit. Yeah, he didn't even hear the ears off, so he kind of missed out there. Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:17
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Oh, also, ah The Edge grew up watching Frasier, he said. So he was excited. Well, we all grew up watching Frasier. Yeah. So i said this is we I did this because I'm a fan of Frasier. It's the craziest reason to do money playing.
00:15:33
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I don't know. Kelsey Grammer, I love you. You are an icon. And also he said his mom was a big fan of Cheers and she had just passed away. And he was like, this one's for you, mom. Yeah.
00:15:45
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yeah Yes. Beautiful. I wish I was making that up. I'll be Niles to your Frasier.
00:15:54
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ah Thomas Jane signed on because he likes to work. uh originally tom arnold was supposed to be in the film as the cowboy but uh he had to drop out that makes perfect yeah that does make sense he would have been great in that didn't he literally play ah like a cowboy like in like austin powers 2 or something like i think so yes yeah at the first one yeah Really typecast.
00:16:20
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Hey, if it works, it works. ah They also, they almost bought in ah Tom Barringer. He was discussed. And they also have a working relationship with Tom Barringer, who also would have been great in this, I feel like.
00:16:32
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But instead, they're like, oh, no, Matthew, I'll just bring in my brother, Matthew. Matthew also worked at least one day as a dolly operator. Good for him. Get that paycheck. Yeah.
00:16:43
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Yeah. they They had a tight budget, as you might imagine. yeah you that That's actually very apparent. no that's one of the That's the biggest theme of the film, I would say.
00:16:54
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yeah Yeah, I would agree with you. Definitely part of its homespun charm. Yeah. Now... ah They found a plane that they could rent and refurbish as a casino in ah Baton Rouge, Louisiana, which was their, ah this is where they went after it turned out that Romania and Toronto were both too expensive.
00:17:18
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Romania was too expensive, eh? Yeah, so they went to Baton Rouge. and Okay. ah The set was not completed before shooting began, so they had to shoot around the ongoing construction.
00:17:31
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ah still Other than that, the shoot appears to have gone smoothly for a low budget independent film. In the interviews that I read, nobody had anything bad to say about anybody.
00:17:43
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And the only person that of note that was not interviewed was Thomas Jane. Maybe he didn't like He's got work. He's got to work. yeah It's true. he's he's He's a great actor. He was looking a little rough in this, I gotta say. He was looking little rough. Well, he's been smoking that pipe for a while. It's true. His character would have looked Take take after take.
00:18:02
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yeah oh So was picked up for distribution by Quiver Distribution, who were able to get it into a Video On Demand and Redbox. It must have gotten at least one theatrical showing, maybe due to contractual obligations. Oh, ah because in Oscars.
00:18:18
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Well, yeah. And maybe to get it, yeah, as a contender. ah It did net $618 at the box
00:18:27
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And Quiver's like a classic like schlock ah action thriller like distributor, right? Yeah, they're they're the guys that are filling up your red box. Yeah, that makes sense.
00:18:39
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They're like one stop before Tubi. Other action movies of 2020. Let's hear it. You got Birds of Prey. You guys just watch that, Birds of Prey? Yeah, I did, actually.
00:18:51
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yeah That was the Harley Quinn one, right? Yeah. Yeah, I liked Yeah. You got Tenet. Anybody seen Tenet? Yeah. Actively avoided it. I saw Tenet. Actively avoided it.
00:19:06
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What did you say you saw, him Mark? Yeah, I saw Tenet. What did you think? um i don't I don't like Christopher Nolan at all. Fair enough. um'm I'm over it. No, I get it. I get it.
00:19:18
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He's he just become like the same way I sometimes feel how Wes Anderson's gotten a little bit too dollhouse-y. Christopher Nolan's got way too dollhouse-y, I feel like. Right.
00:19:30
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Bloodshot. Anybody see Bloodshot? I saw Bloodshot. Any idea what that is? wish I should watch Bloodshot. You should watch Bloodshot. It's really fucking dumb. ah The Hunt.
00:19:43
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The Hunt was pretty good. It wasn't great, but was pretty good. It's about conservatives getting kidnapped by rich liberals to get hunted to the Lithuania. Oh, always wanted to watch that. Oh, that's real. that happened one That happens. That happens. Yeah, and it's also, it's real.
00:19:56
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Yeah. That's a documentary. It's based on a real thing. That's a documentary. it's like It's very similar. yeah ah Bad Boys for Life. Nope. Yeah, I didn't see that. Nah, I gave up after Bad Boys 2, I'm going to be honest.
00:20:10
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Wonder Woman 1984. I don't think I saw that one. I don't even know if I saw that. Underwater? Underwater was good.
00:20:21
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That's the thing I'm going to avoid, so. That's fair. it's Yeah, it is probably your worst nightmare, but it is good. Yeah, gregs Greg's got a water thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's fair. We've all got things.
00:20:32
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Well, you guys want to talk about the plot of Money Plane? Yes. Sure. All right.
00:20:56
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Plot bumper, listen to me. I'm gonna give you the plot summary. Come on, baby. Here's the synopsis.
00:21:08
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Plot bumper, plot bumper.
00:21:22
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So we open on an art heist. Yeah. What's the location there? The location is art museum. Art museum. Art museum. Yeah. Non-specific. Non-specific. And it's a hallway.
00:21:35
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It's just a hallway with like two doors. And definitely the gallery room has got exposed brick in it like most gallery rooms do and like just like kind of cheap drywall.
00:21:47
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And they're usually housed in industrial areas. I mean, let's face it. It's a really cool art museum that's in the hip upcoming neighborhood. yeah He's going through the servant's entrance because he's an employee there.
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We open on an art heist. Adam the Edge Copeland is playing Jack Reese, the leader of a band of professional thieves. As he navigates his way through security, he narrates his three rules for being a professional thief, which are one.
00:22:18
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Run a crew because it takes more than one flint to make a fire. Which is outrageous because it's no, you need a flint and like steel or steel. Yeah. Yeah. You don't need several flints. No, I hadn't even thought about that. It's outrageous.
00:22:33
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Yeah, absolutely not accurate. ah Rule number two. ah they There are how things are and how things appear to be. For example, right now, he's not actually an employee of an art museum, but a thief.
00:22:48
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And number three, your plan A is only as good as your plan B. Good rules, eh, for thieves? They may seek, but yeah, I'll take them. The craziest part to me is still that...
00:23:02
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You could not get a more conspicuous motherfucker than this guy. No. be a the He's like so distinctive. He's like six foot four. He's got this long ass hair.
00:23:15
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He's got the craziest jaw you've ever seen in your life. Giant frog eyes sticking out of the side of his head. Yeah. It's like if someone robs me, I'm like, yeah, I can tell you exactly what this guy looks like. Yeah, I know exactly what he looks like.
00:23:28
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Just pull up the monster manual and bring up frog man. Uh, I'm being mean. I'm sorry. I feel bad that I said that about him. No, i think yeah I mean, he's a better looking guy than any of us, but he's still conspicuous as shit. He's conspicuous as shit. and I'm punching up when I'm saying this. He stands out.
00:23:45
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ah so But I always like it when there's like rules to thieves. When thieves are like, I got rules. That's always a fun trope. Yeah, you've got a rubric.
00:23:56
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And like two of the three rules sort of make sense. Yeah, and and one of them will be broken, and then you'll be like, that's why we never break the rule. that but Except that doesn't happen in this movie. It happens in almost every other movie where thieves have rules.
00:24:11
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But it also reminds me of... ah What I liked about this movie is that it reminded me of an episode of leverage. It's like if leverage was um super dumb one episode for some reason.
00:24:24
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And I really liked leverage. and Okay. Now, I just want to brief real briefly ah just that is the weird thing. I think this movie has like several like sort of like things it sets up that like never come up again.
00:24:39
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Oh, yeah. No, no, no. It's so bizarre where it's like yeah ah Joey Lawrence is all like, and I myself am a pilot. Yeah. And never pays off.
00:24:50
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Oh, nothing comes of that. Yeah. I like that. There was just one shot of a cat. Sure. Never saw the cat again. who cares? Not important.
Movie Ratings and Reviews
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Despite Jack's many rules, the heist still goes south.
00:25:05
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Indeed, the painting that they were hired to steal wasn't even there. Jack and his associate, tough gal Isabella, fight their way past security. Here he's doing some stunts. He did some stunts here.
00:25:19
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And they meet up with their tech expert, Trey, and wheel man, Iggy, and the four of them hightail it out of there.
00:25:29
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Now, the man that hired them to steal this painting is played by Kelsey Grammer, and his name is Darius Grouch III. That's not what I call him. That's not what I call him.
00:25:40
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No. In case that wasn't a good enough name for a crime boss, everyone calls him The Rumble. Which is a great name. I love that it's not Rumble.
00:25:51
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I love that it's The Rumble. Yeah, it's Rumble. Yeah, somehow he has the wrestling name instead of this... so But here's here's the question that I have for you. Did he know who he was going to get? So the idea is he's trying to get this painting to this guy. The painting's not there, so he's going to go to this guy anyway.
00:26:10
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Has he spoken to this man before? i believe so. Then why does he tell him his name? Okay, maybe not.
00:26:21
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A lot of things are unclear. It also seems weird to me that it's like, so we're dealing with stolen artwork. So here's my full name and my alias. We'll just fill in the gaps. It's cinema. It's not feeding it to you.
00:26:34
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That's fair. Yeah. you're If you're looking to this movie for answers, you're doing the wrong thing. You got to leave in the moment. i'm I'm looking for a lot of answers in this movie. Yeah. See, you know what I mean? The joy of it really is searching for the answers.
00:26:48
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Fair enough. Now, ah the Rumble tells Jack that he's very disappointed to not have the painting and that if he wants to clear up all the outstanding gambling debt that he's got hanging over him, and the Rumble has just the job to do it.
00:27:06
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All he has to do is rob the Money Plane, a flying casino frequented by the world's richest criminals so that they can gamble in ungoverned international airspace.
00:27:19
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Not only is there a ton of cash, but there's also $1 billion dollars in crypto. I also just want to take this moment to point out that Rumble, the Rumble, purchased.
00:27:30
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He purchased the debt that Jack had. So he's now, Jack is now indebted to him, not to the people that he was indebted to. I also love the concept of criminals purchasing debt like banks or investors would do.
00:27:46
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Yeah. It's a great narrative concept. He could probably negotiate that down at this point. Yeah, I would think so. I mean, that's what you really want out of a debt consolidator. But it seems like in the criminal world, it goes the opposite way.
00:27:59
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Yeah. The Rumble says that Jack can keep any cash that he finds. He just wants the $1 billion dollar in crypto. At this point, Anna started asking me a lot about how crypto works.
00:28:12
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And like, I thought, the I thought it was all online. I thought it was all digital. How is it on the plane? No, you, you can, you can actually do that. That part actually sort of holds up. Yeah. Cause it's the wallet. It's not the crypto. It's the wallet.
00:28:27
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Yeah. You need to stealing the wallet. Yeah. yeah The wallets in the plane and the cryptos in the wallet. Yeah. I just said that over and over for like 20 minutes and it really made me laugh.
00:28:40
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It turns out this was all a cold open. yeah It's such a long call. It's so long. really good. yeah no I had really thought that we were already in Act 1 at that point.
00:28:55
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I loved it. When the credits hit and you start seeing schematics of the money plane, like, yes! yeah Cold open! Andrew Lawrence slam dunking it.
00:29:06
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ah So after the opening credits, Jack tells his crew about the gig and they're all on board. Trey and Jack, they'll go on board the plane posing as criminal gamblers.
00:29:18
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While Isabella will pose as a flight attendant and Iggy will stay on the ground doing ground stuff. He just like stands in like a field or like it's crazy. Yeah.
00:29:29
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And what's weird is he's on land, even though the plane is supposed to be flying over international waters. Yeah. No. Yeah. That's a good point. That's a good point. ah He's also not just standing in the field. He's complaining about it a lot, too.
00:29:44
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Yeah. He wanted to be where the action was, but also he doesn't want to do any work. He's that kind of great guy. I do love that they've got a guy ah that they have someone on the team where it's just like, do we have to do it now?
00:29:55
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Like most thieves are like, I'm on top of fucking everything.
Movie Title Game
00:30:00
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i got this. yeah I got this dialed in. I can do it. And he's just like, oh, do I have to do this stuff?
00:30:07
Speaker
Yeah, this isn't Michael Mann's heat. No. I don't know why he sets it up, like, right then. Like, it's just like setting up a transmitter. That's all he has to do. Yeah. And for some reason, like, ah we have to do this all at the same time. It's like, I'm going to set it up like a week before.
00:30:21
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. How about we all set it up together before you go? And I'll just stay here. Yeah, you don't even have to be there. Yeah, it's fine. Yeah. Yeah. Or I can't. Yeah. Once it's set up, I'll go get on the plane. I don't think anybody's going to bother it.
00:30:34
Speaker
Or we can yeah just hire another guy to watch this thing. Yeah. It's just apparently someplace in Baton Rouge. So like no one's going to care. Or so you would think it ends up actually being very good that he was there.
00:30:46
Speaker
It's crazy. Yeah. We're going to have to talk about that. Yeah. I got a lot of questions about a number of things. Okay. Let's see. Where was I? Let's see. Oh yeah. So they'll sneak into the belly of the plane, steal the crypto and the cash before parachuting away before anyone knows they were there.
00:31:04
Speaker
Now, ah Jack then has a brief scene with his wife and daughter, one of whom is played by Denise Richards, ah before meeting up with Thomas Jane's Harry Greer. So what did you guys, first of all, think about Denise Richards? She didn't have a lot to do here, unfortunately. she didn't have a lot to do, no.
00:31:19
Speaker
it's like It's like so pathetic how much this is like pandering to like a 45-year-old man. We're just like, oh, you like a Frazier? You like a Denise Richards is hot, right? Like, yeah. Hey, hey remember Wild Things? Yeah. and but Remember Wild Things? What if now she looked kind of like your wife?
00:31:41
Speaker
But then you never see her again. She just said, God. Yeah. Well, you see her briefly in the like one in the second outdoor shot that they had. Well, I guess if you if we discount everything that happens in that field, which I don't think of as outdoors.
00:31:54
Speaker
Yeah. for so No, she doesn't actually do anything in the No. No. Well, but what did you guys think about Thomas Jane? Let's let's get down to Jane Tech. I like Thomas Jane.
00:32:05
Speaker
I thought he crushed it, especially in this opening scene or his introductory scene. Well, yeah, of course, jane Jane's doing it. Yeah. I'm always happy to see him. Now, ah Harry Greer was a major general in the Air Force and is also the godfather to Jack's daughter.
00:32:24
Speaker
So he agrees to watch Jack's family while he robs the money plane. And he's also going to do some digging into what exactly went wrong with the art museum job. Yep. Now, next thing we know, our heroes... Which art museum?
00:32:39
Speaker
The art museum. Okay. You know, the one. Yeah. go They call it the art museum. It's like a thing. ah So the next thing we know, our heroes are boarding the money plane in an undisclosed location. probably so that i knew i need to go into this because this is like one of the things that like I think is the most absurd. It literally says money plane terminal. They have their own terminal.
00:33:08
Speaker
Undisclosed location. To whom? Yeah. like To us? to What are you talking about? It's but just in a place, don't worry about it Yeah, don't sweat it It's cool yeah And then they get inside it And it's like clearly just like A corner of a warehouse And they put up they put up like Tonight Show curtains in the background Yeah Yeah, it's ridiculous.
00:33:35
Speaker
Their walkway was yeah left something to be desired. I also love the concept of like international criminals boarding a plane and showing their identification and passing through security.
00:33:47
Speaker
Just the concept of it. And it looks like that. it's like Is it classy? It's not at all classy. it is No. Tonight Show curtains, it's bare cement. Yeah.
00:33:58
Speaker
I mean, if you're in an undisclosed location. Then they didnt they have to put like guns in a chest or something. Yeah. yeah There's like a footlock or something. It's outrageous. ah Well, anyway, our heroes are boarding the money plane in the undisclosed location.
00:34:14
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All the weapons need to be checked and the, but their cover IDs work. And once they're on board, Jack and Trey introduce themselves as Monroe and his assistant McGillicuddy, a pair of human traffickers. Apparently the most successful human traffickers on three continents, they say, which is a weird cover ID.
00:34:34
Speaker
Yeah. And it's especially weird when someone recognizes him. Like, he doesn't have to sell the ID at all. They all know who each other are. Yeah. Which I appreciate about them. They keep tabs.
00:34:47
Speaker
So the only sort of important guests and crew members are Vitaly, an arms dealer, and his perverse henchman, Reed, and two employees of the money plane, the concierge and the bookkeeper.
00:35:02
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The concierge played by ah Joey Lawrence. He runs hospitality, while the bookkeeper runs the games. The bookkeeper explains that if there's any cheating or unsanctioned violence, security will put a stop to it quickly and permanently.
00:35:19
Speaker
can i can i i I just to add one thing real quick. Please. About how much ah ah we passed over how they get these bracelets that have like money on them, but they all stuff like yeah register the money. or It's like so convoluted.
00:35:37
Speaker
No, it's like when you go to an arcade nowadays. They just give you a little RFID bracelet and it's got your funds linked to it. It's the same thing. It doesn't make any sense. and that makes perfect that makes the most That's like the most normal thing in there, dude. It's really not. But but in in like ah if you go into an arcade like that, can they do the thing where they scan one bracelet and then scan another one to transfer the funds?
00:36:00
Speaker
Yeah, you've probably got to go to the counter and be like, oh, I'm leaving. Can you give the rest of my tokens to this kid? I'm sure they can do that. Alright. Alright, fine. Let's move on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Score one for the money playing lovers. It's all coming together.
00:36:19
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ah Now, ah let's see. Where was I? Yes. ah but but but but The concierge explains that the flight attendants are not sex workers. The sex workers are the sex workers.
00:36:30
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Like that moment. Yeah. Soon the money plane is in the sky. Jack and Trey head to the poker table. No, hold on. I need to stop you there, please.
00:36:40
Speaker
Because that part is one of the parts that I do hate the most. It's like they take off and it's like they have like a floating glass table. That's and think like, why is it like a steep angle? And it's like, well, who cares?
00:36:56
Speaker
I mean, that's honestly my one of my biggest complaints about this is the set direction. That ah you don't buy it as an in-flight plane? Well, every so I don't buy anything.
00:37:07
Speaker
I don't buy the airport. I don't buy the art museum. I don't buy ah that. And there's like soon after, as we're about to get to, but they're playing poker and the poker table's up to their like necks.
00:37:22
Speaker
It's absurd. yeah Yeah. Yeah, they got a high poker table, but they have regular chairs, so they all look like they're children at Thanksgiving. Yeah, the the set direction could not be worse.
00:37:33
Speaker
So that's one Oscar I'm not giving them, but the rest, yes. Anyway, go on. Also, like right after they take off, like you just cut to some stock footage of a plane in the sky, and then they cut back in, and they're like, yeah pretty smooth takeoff, wasn't it? We thought of everything. Or something like this. No, he's like, like that was very smooth, and I'm ah also a pilot, so...
00:37:53
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So I know smooth takeoffs. of Why say that? It's the most bizarre thing. Because they don't film it in a way that makes sense for a plane to be taking off. And as you said, the table should just...
00:38:08
Speaker
fall. like shit yeah like Like, if you were to just cut from them being on the ground in the sky, it's like, well, no, like you can't stand during a plane taking off. like You're going to but you're fall over.
00:38:19
Speaker
Yeah. They kind of lampshade it. They lampshade it a bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's fine. But now that you say it's camp, then it's like, well, maybe...
00:38:31
Speaker
Maybe. I mean, obviously, saying that it's camp lets you sort of gloss over a lot of rough edges. So when you go into it without reading, you can really sort of be generous with it.
00:38:41
Speaker
Yeah, it's like Tommy Vizzo being like, yeah, it was a comedy. No, it meant to be funny. The Room was a comedy. The Room was a comedy. Yeah, but that you don't believe it. I watched this and I believed it.
00:38:52
Speaker
Chris, I don't believe you. i think so. I did. don't know. It, it, it, to me once Thomas, I'm going to skip right to my baddie award so that we can ah close the book on this idea.
00:39:05
Speaker
My Batty Award was for one line that Thomas Jane delivered in that first scene, which was, you really know how to pick them, kid. And it was like, he is locked in. This is okay. This camp.
00:39:20
Speaker
The way that he delivered it within the context of that scene, it you unlocked the rest of the movie for me. All right.
00:39:29
Speaker
But anyway, anyway, what was I even talking? we the The plane takes off. Yes. They just got to the sky. Yeah. It's taken half the movie, but now the plane is finally fucking taking off. Yeah. Yeah. it's yeah um Yeah. Once it's in the sky, the movie really starts zooming.
00:39:45
Speaker
Definitely.
00:39:47
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Now, uh, the plane is the sky. ah Uh, Jack, Jack and Trey, Monroe and McGillicuddy they head to the poker table for a little Texas hold'em can you believe for the setup that they start with poker though it's just I really can't get over that it's like we can do anything we want Texas hold'em it's like oh holy shit they're playing Texas hold'em well you gotta you gotta to escalate right
00:40:19
Speaker
Hey, man, I'll tell you what. I don't know anywhere I can play Texas Hold'em legally. Not with $1 billion dollars worth of crypto on the line. That's true. ah yeah You know, you got to escalate your stakes. You got to start small and build. You can't have it be at 11 the entire flight. Everybody will get worn out.
00:40:37
Speaker
Well, you could start it at 7 and not at
00:40:42
Speaker
All right. I'm sorry. You guys had to wait half an hour before someone shot themselves in the head.
00:40:49
Speaker
Yeah. ah Jack loses for a few hands to a rambunctious Texan named J.R. Crockett and uses it as an excuse to get off the casino floor and surreptitiously explore the plane.
00:41:02
Speaker
So now we've met all three of the Lawrence brothers in this film. What did you guys think about the Lawrence brothers in this film? I think Joey Lawrence is killing it in this film. And by killing it, I mean he's doing okay.
00:41:13
Speaker
I love his delivery of like, and I was a pilot. Most things he says, he's he's really good with it. He's like keeping everything calm with a level of sinisterness and just a quick reaction to everything.
00:41:28
Speaker
But with that like curt customer service that you want out of someone who's also trying to keep like no one from eating the chips when they're not supposed to or something. You know what I mean? yeah But also he's wearing this all white suit and he's got this Caesar with a side shave that just makes him look like an evil character from an anime or something. Was there a side shave? I thought it was just like, thought it just like had a shaved head.
00:41:52
Speaker
No, he had like a little, he just had like at the top of his head. all right right. But combed forward like a Caesar. It was very strange. It's very weird. I remember thinking like, that's an interesting haircut.
00:42:05
Speaker
And how about Matthew Lawrence as the cowboy? i thought he was fun. i liked him. I didn't realize that was Matthew Lawrence. So I guess that's, that's a positive in his, on his camp. It's like, ah he's having a good time, but it's not like yeah I, I like him.
00:42:19
Speaker
Yeah, he'ss it's good enough. Hey, he's having a ball. Anyway, and Iggy, Iggy, Andy Lawrence, our director is Iggy. no he's No, he's no good at all. he's No, he's terrible.
00:42:30
Speaker
i dis Bad director, bad actor. No. Tough crowd, tough crowd. Now, Isabella, she is exploring the bowels of the ship. When Reed catches her and propositions her, she explains that it's against the rules, to which he responds, rules were meant to be fucked. That's a great one of the great lines. That's a great line.
00:42:54
Speaker
Isabel is not impressed and gives him the brush off. ah Back on the casino floor, Jayhart Crockett has challenged McGillicuddy to competitive Russian roulette.
00:43:05
Speaker
It's always competitive, right? I mean, know i mean you could just be solo. You could just be doing it by yourself for fun. Wow. That's just called depression. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's just Tuesday. Am I right?
00:43:19
Speaker
ah No, no. I'm kidding. Now, he tells McGillicuddy that he never loses at Russian roulette. But it turns out that there's a first time for everything.
00:43:30
Speaker
J.R. picks up the revolver and promptly shoots himself in the head on the first go. This begins my favorite running gag in the entire film, McGillicuddy's macabre winning streak.
00:43:42
Speaker
I thought this was a really funny gag. No, this is all right. This is all right. And i yeah I thought this sequence was a great way to kick it off. Because J.R., he was so lucky. He was famously lucky. And from there on out now, McGillicuddy's so lucky.
00:43:58
Speaker
Now, meanwhile, Jack has found the cockpit of the ship. Why he needs to take over the cockpit, I'm not entirely sure. and now you But it turns out he does.
00:44:09
Speaker
Because how else are you going to make video calls? The craziest part to me is how he's like unfamiliar with co-pilots. Yeah, he that never even occurred to him. a second guy Yeah, it's it's also crazy to me that they would do all of that research and not know that there was a second pilot, especially when literally every plane has two pilots on This guy is some sort of co-pilot.
00:44:31
Speaker
I don't know what's happening right now. This is crazy. I didn't know this was legal. I guess we are in international waters. I mean, the money so so let's for one second, though.
00:44:42
Speaker
The money plane is legal, though, right? Because they don't do anything illegal until they get up into international skies. It's true. It's all nice and legal. They don't do anything there either.
00:44:53
Speaker
it's They just play poker. It's ridiculous. So it's all pretty legal. The people doing illegal the heroes. Well, and the guy that shot himself in the head.
00:45:06
Speaker
That's not illegal. out I think it might be in some jurisdictions. I think it might be illegal. Well, he's in international skies. It's true. I mean, there, nothing's illegal. Then we're back to that.
00:45:18
Speaker
Right? I guess except for maritime You can tear off ears anywhere you want. I hope so.
00:45:27
Speaker
Now, okay. Okay, what was happening? Where was I? did The co-pilot. He finds the co-pilot. Oh, yeah, they found the co-pilot. So they lure out the pilot, and then he goes inside, and he's like, oh shit, a co-pilot.
00:45:38
Speaker
And he has to fight the co-pilot. And they have a little tussle. Uh... but but but but papa See, I've also always wondered, like, when he's up there, I swear he's got, like, radio.
00:45:52
Speaker
And I'm like, can you actually get, like, fm radio, like, in the sky? i Maybe... moon You can probably get satellite radio. Alright, so you can listen to Stern.
00:46:04
Speaker
yeah
00:46:07
Speaker
Now, ah ah so, yeah, Jack takes control of the plane and he apparently begins flying it towards Iggy's terrestrial communications setup. Now, McGillicuddy tries to break away to find the server room with the crypto, only get intercepted by the concierge, who brings him to the themed adventure bedding. Ah, Yes.
00:46:32
Speaker
ah where they you He needs to bet on things like how long a man can survive trapped in an octagon with a king cobra. It's great stuff. Yeah. Again, it's stuff getting live it would be interesting, but otherwise I could just like pull up a video of that probably. It's that interesting.
00:46:50
Speaker
yeah You'd want to be el in incognito mode, though. Here, you don't have to do that. They don't even have like iPads. They're like you know like the ones you get free because you sign up for Verizon. Yeah, no. They've got some knockoff brand. They've got the Timu tablets. yeah ah Now, up in the cockpit, Jack gets a video call from the Rumble.
00:47:13
Speaker
He's curious about how things are going. and Jack tells him it's fine. I love this. I love the concept of someone being like, hey, just checking in on the robbery. How's that going? Is it going all right? Keep me updated.
00:47:24
Speaker
don't Don't think about double-crossing me now. Yeah, don't do that. just thought I'd check in, see how that robbery's going for Is it going all right? weird one thing that's nice about it is that you do get more kelsey gramer no i'll give you the course of the film without him having to leave his house yeah because this movie all of his scenes were filmed at kelsey gramer's house i'm sure oh at his house is he like in mexico like i feel like it's like uh he's just gonna terracotta house or whatever you know i think he's just like that's socal maybe i implied it was that
00:47:57
Speaker
Yeah, I could see him being an Arizona guy, too. But I bet it's SoCal. He loves to be near where the action is. But, i mean, you're in the you're in the region of it, you know.
00:48:08
Speaker
Back in the bowels of the ship, Isabella beats up a guard and finds the vault of the cache. Things are looking up. Back in the cockpit, Jack gets a call from Harry Greer, who tells him that the Rumble was the one who set him up to fail on the museum job.
00:48:23
Speaker
Yeah. You can tell because the Rumble already owned the painting that he wanted him to steal, and he had it moved the day before the robbery. Yeah. What a twist. Yeah.
00:48:34
Speaker
But she she tore the guy's ears off, though, right? and Like, that happened already. Has that happened yet? i think I think that would have been the guard downstairs. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. yeah Yeah. just want to address that he she tore a man's ears off. I can't remember she tears off that guard or if it's the guy who who's trying to sleep with her that she tears their ears off. Yeah, it's the guy who says, like, ah rules are meant to be fucked. Oh, no, that happens later, right? that No, she hasn't killed Reed. We haven't ripped the ears off yet. Sorry, i jumping the gun. i'm just gun It's okay. So, admittedly, admittedly,
00:49:08
Speaker
All of her action scenes basically kind of go the same way, and they're all kind of filmed in the same location, and everyone is wearing the same stuff. So it's yeah very easy to confuse any of these scenes together. There's no differentiation between any of them.
00:49:24
Speaker
This one, they had rock music playing to cover up the noise. So there's that. so But if you can't remember the non-diegetic soundtrack for the two memories, it will be difficult to keep them separate.
00:49:37
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Yes. Now, ah he tells, ah Jack tells his crew that it's time for plan B. Chekhov's plan B. McGillicuddy heads down to the server room and he starts downloading the crypto and transferring it down to Iggy on the ground. He's getting the crypto, he's getting the wallet yeah that has the crypto in it.
00:49:59
Speaker
And he's getting the crypto out. And the way he's doing it now, that because he's taking the crypto out of the wallet, they won't they won't trip the security. He's putting it in another wallet.
00:50:11
Speaker
Yeah. Obviously. Yeah. The crypto. He's an expert. and Now, what are we even talking He's transferring it to a different wallet. Yeah. And he finally he finally stopped complaining and did the 10 minutes of setup for the stuff.
00:50:24
Speaker
So going Yeah, he's got his thing all set up. Yeah, it's going great. He also eats a banana. You got to make sure you're keeping your potassium up Yeah. It's nice that they show us that for a while, though.
00:50:36
Speaker
And fruits are great snack to help you stay hydrated. There's a lot of water in fruit. I didn't think about that.
00:50:43
Speaker
Now, ah unfortunately, Vitaly, the arms dealer, and his associate Reed find mid-transfer. Isabella does ah first take out Reed by stabbing him with some bottles and also ripping his ears off.
00:51:00
Speaker
And ah then kills Vitaly by electrocuting him to death on a server rack. which alert Which alerts no one. Yeah, no, nobody's really concerned about that. So one of the things I like about money plane is that no one on the money plane at any point is aware that the money plane is being robbed until, so by the way, we robbed you. And they're like, you did what?
00:51:21
Speaker
No, no one's really on the ball on the money. floor No, no. And the money plane people aren't the antagonists. No, they're just a setting. They're just a force of nature. You kind of feel bad for the pilot and who knew there would co-pilot but him. Who could have even thought? They were just flying. They were like, what the fuck? Yeah, mean, they were legitimate people.
00:51:44
Speaker
The thing is, they were guys that got drummed out of the Air Force for committing murders. That's that's how they wound up piloting the Money Boy. Well, that's what happens to a lot of people. It's a career path.
00:51:58
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, that's what a lot of people end up doing for their second act in this economy. They pilot the money plan. That's right. Because it's all legal. Yeah. Once you get an international warmer setting.
00:52:11
Speaker
Now, meanwhile, on the ground, Iggy fends off a surprise assault by the Rumble's gun thugs with the help of Harry Greer piloting a drone that's armed with a pistol.
00:52:23
Speaker
I love this drone so much. I love this yeah stupid drone. That's when i'm like, oh, maybe you are being campy. That's the part where I'm like, all right, fine. Like, obviously you thought this was funny, I guess.
00:52:35
Speaker
Because, it's like, it's too absurd to not be a joke, right? Yeah. Yeah, and they're having fun here. And this is the time i'm I've been waiting for when to bring this up. But there's something I have to talk about with the plot.
00:52:47
Speaker
So we have now. So first off, we start with an art heist and it turns out the art heist has gone wrong. So the guy shows up and he's like, I'm indebted to you. And then the guy's like, you are. But also, I literally bought all your debt. So you're indebted to me.
00:53:03
Speaker
So now I'm going to make you, I'm now going to make you go on. ah I'm going to make you steal some money for me. And then in the middle of him stealing it, he's like, ha, got you. And then he starts shooting him.
00:53:19
Speaker
Right. yeah So why did the, so the rumble did a setup to catch a guy in a setup. And then once he caught him in the setup, he's like, ha, got you in a second separate setup. Yeah. Well, you know, he doesn't want his robbing the money plane coming back. And he interrupts the only person actually stopping anyone from robbing the money plane is the man who is robbing the money plane.
00:53:43
Speaker
Because the only one who's ever attacking them is just two people who are like, hey, you're cute. Wait, are you stealing stuff? And then they get killed. And then you they could just shoot the people in the money plane in like 30 seconds. And yeah, but also why is rumble shooting the guy who's stealing the money for him? He's not going to get the money then.
00:54:01
Speaker
And if he wanted to shoot him, why don't just do it in his house when he told him he had all of his debt and why did he set him up to steal a painting that he didn't need to steal to make him feel indebted because he already had all of his debt.
00:54:13
Speaker
It's unclear. Okay. That's, that's going be solved in money plane too. ah Maybe. Maybe. Here's here's here. Let me give you my reading for what's happened. Please.
00:54:24
Speaker
So Jack was hired by an unknown customer to steal this painting. When was unable to get the painting, he had to go to the customer's house to explain what happened. It turned out that that customer was the rumble.
00:54:35
Speaker
The rumble had planned on paying for the painting by saying, hey, I just bought all your outstanding debt. Your debt is now clear. Give me the painting. I'm not giving you any money. Fuck you. But instead, the Rumble doesn't get the painting.
00:54:46
Speaker
So he says, you know what? Double fuck you. You know what you're going to do? You're going to go rob the money plane from me. I want a billion dollars in cryptocurrency. I want you to steal that off of this money plane from me. If you do that, your debt is clear. And on top of that, you can keep any cash that you find.
00:55:00
Speaker
Jack says, great. But then the Rumble says, hey, wait a second. What if I can also get the cash? What if once they jump down, I get the cash and I get the crypto. Bing, bang, boom.
00:55:12
Speaker
I'm good to go. Then why didn't he force him to steal a painting in the beginning? Why didn't he just have him show up to say he was doing a job and then be like, by the way, I own your debt and you're going to do this job for me now.
00:55:23
Speaker
Because only having this over his head doubly, like both for the failed painting and for the debt, could he get him to do a gig as crazy as the money plane? Yeah, no one would ever dare to steal from the money plane.
00:55:39
Speaker
The world's most dangerous criminals gamble on the money plane, Greg. i don't even know i don't even know where the ah landing strip is, but it's it's undisclosed. yeah' greg it's got to play Also, why would he have to...
00:55:53
Speaker
I guess because he's going to give them the cash, he could steal it that way. but
00:55:59
Speaker
it's So I understand. Let's just move on. but Let's just move on. Anyway.
00:56:09
Speaker
Unfortunately, the incident with the server rack means that they won't be able to transfer the crypto to Iggy. And also Iggy's communication setup has got a little messed up in the firefight. You know, it's a whole big thing.
00:56:21
Speaker
So they're going to have to put in on a solid straight drive, which will trip security when they go in the wallet. Sure. It's all part of plan B, baby.
00:56:33
Speaker
um Now, when the rumble calls up Jack again, Jack puts him on hold and then Jack takes him back and he says that he knows what's up. So then ah the rumble sends some more gun thugs out to kill his family.
00:56:48
Speaker
ah Luckily, Thomas Jane is there to defend them. So it's no big deal. Jack then tells the rumble that the crew is double crossing him. Trey transfers the crypto to charities around the world.
00:57:00
Speaker
Isabella kicks the cash out. the emergency edge I love that. Yeah, that's class. That's class. And explains why he's reading Robin Hood to his child. Yeah, and no criminal would dare try and take that back. No criminal would ever be so craven.
00:57:18
Speaker
Then ah Jack plays a recording of the rumble over the PA system, saying that ah the rumble orchestrated the entire money plane heist.
00:57:29
Speaker
The concierge doesn't send anybody down to see what's going on down in the vault. Nothing happens in the bowels of the plane for some reason. But that's fine. The concierge tells all this clientele not to worry.
00:57:42
Speaker
All their deposits will be covered by the money plane. They have plenty of money back in their land bank. And ah they have dispatched a team to the ground to kill the rumble.
00:57:55
Speaker
The bookkeeper then begins taking bets on whether or not the rumble will be dead by the time they hit the ground. Ooh, very macabre. Mm-hmm. Three months later, we find out Jack's crew has found the painting and that they were supposed to steal at the beginning of the movie.
00:58:15
Speaker
And now they've stolen it and they've used the proceeds to fund their retirement. The end. For now. money yeah for and Yeah, until there's and another Money Plane.
00:58:27
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Money Plane 2. High stakes. Because it's in the sky. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Sky stakes? No.
00:58:38
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High stakes. Sky high stakes. Sorry. Do you think the edges... you think Denise Richards knows he's a criminal? Oh, yeah. I think they're totally open with one another. Okay. All right. Cool.
00:58:51
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I don't think the actress, Denise Richards, knows that he's a criminal. I don't think she knows what's coming out at all in the movie. That's fair. That's fair. No. I think she just learned her three lines and called it a day. Yeah, exactly. She was just like, all right.
00:59:04
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Yeah, the money, what? Okay, what do I? Yeah, stand here. Oh, Jack. Yeah. Again? Oh, Jack. One more. Oh, Jack. Let's call it.
00:59:16
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She's great. Final thoughts and our unique and singular two axes, five star ratings on watchability and weird being your axes. Greg, do you want to kick us off?
00:59:30
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Sure. As far as weird goes, I don't think this one is that weird. I'm going to give it a one. I think ah sometimes I feel like it is written by an in alien intelligence, which is why it's getting a one instead of like a half.
00:59:42
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But it think it's a pretty like normal ish kind of movie. If you don't examine it too much. um As far as watchability goes, I'm going to give it a four. I have watched this with people and without, do you know, just by myself. Definitely better with people, but always a good time.
00:59:56
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Highly recommended. Check it out if you like ah if you if you like a good time and a bad movie. fair enough Marco where'd you land on watchability and weirdness what is the scale like one to five all right yeah i I agree with Greg fully the it's like not weird it but yeah I've said before it is like some sort of ai constructed like yeah it's an amalgam of like tropes but like none of them actually like make sense at all
01:00:30
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It's like if you pay attention, it's like, no, this doesn't line up. so Yeah. it's It's weird. Like ah it's like a two weird, but no, it's very watchable. It's ah yeah. Yeah. I'll give it like, yeah. Four, I guess. Maybe I'm giving it about the same writing. Yeah. I don't know.
01:00:45
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Yeah. Yeah. yeah I gave it a four and a half and watchability. I thought it was breezy and fun. And I liked that it was like a tight 82 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's nice. It doesn't overstay. It's welcome.
01:00:56
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Yeah. Like and had um it's barely a movie at 82. It's like legally, maybe not. and It feels more like a pilot for a TV series about the edges team.
01:01:08
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I was going to say, wouldn't it be crazy if this was like a pilot, like, and like we had a series every day on CBS. They were like, yeah. and that's basic On the next money plane.
01:01:18
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On the next money plane. Yeah. Yeah, it has, ah if you like that sort of vibe, think you'll find this a very easy watch. And I put it on ah at about a two on weird. I thought was sort of more goofy than weird.
01:01:34
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And I think it it is sort of inscrutable as to whether or not, like you guys and me, we fell on opposite sides of that camp line. So it does sort of fall into an uncanny valley of camp, maybe.
01:01:47
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Exactly. I agree. I agree fully. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, well, that was our reviews, but I found a very interesting couple of reviews that I want to talk about.
01:02:00
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Uh, so I'm going to play the bumper for the review review.
01:02:18
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You wrote a review of the film, now we're going to review you.
01:02:42
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Review, review. La, la, la, la.
01:02:53
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All right, so normally on the review review, I'll find multiple reviews from one platform of the movie that we're talking about. But this week I found one review of Money Plane that I found to be so interesting that I wanted to look up a cover couple of other reviews by the same person.
01:03:10
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Uh, so this week we're going to be talking about the reviews on rotten tomatoes of a guy named Kyle M. Uh, he's reviewed about 50 movies. Most of them is rated on a scale of three to four, which I think is fair. I think most movies are three to four.
01:03:25
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Uh, but here's his review of money plan. Three stars.
01:03:33
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A promptly grasped heist narrative that succeeds by deriving from Ocean's cleverness and appealing protagonist team. Immersed tensely, maximally downsized just to inject the promised action that turned out little to random,
01:03:51
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which therefore left its other full potential in mid-air that doesn't shoot down the titular empire's sickeningly remorseless nature akin to the Purge, despite the vigilant focus.
01:04:06
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C+. plus I'm like losing my mind it. i don't even know how to parse this. Like giving, I mean, just to like start off, like giving this movie anything but between one and five stars is crazy.
01:04:24
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Yeah. Those are the only two appropriate reactions. It's like, play yeah, either you're loving how shit it is or you're like, of course it's shit. The idea of being like, yeah, it almost got there is the craziest response.
01:04:39
Speaker
yeah just Just five degrees off the mark. He talks about like the characters. There's not a likable character in this movie. There's there's no memorable character. I don't know anyone's name.
01:04:50
Speaker
They're awful. I also wanted to point out that that was one sentence. Yeah, I was curious about that, actually. I was like, how many sentences are in that review? Is it just one?
01:05:01
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No, all the ones that I picked out were his one sentence reviews. There were some much longer. And he he watched a lot of movies that I hadn't seen. So I wanted to find movies that he had reviewed that I had, or at least had familiarity with. He's a cinephile.
01:05:14
Speaker
Yeah. yeah Yeah. I mean, he's he's checking out some interesting stuff. Kyle M. We salute you. Here's his review of Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross. o Four stars.
01:05:27
Speaker
The conclusive payoff may not sit well, not because of the built subjective impulse on judgmental grounds, but impressively based on how much of impeccable emittance there is doing to intimidate and conversationally engage under positional immersion, all thanks to the cast brilliance having sharp dynamics that tightens its objective grip.
01:05:54
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A- minus that That's not a real person, is it? Again, i have such a hard time even understanding the sentence itself. It's very difficult to read.
01:06:05
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I'm sure it is. Last one. Last one. Here I go. Conclave. Four stars.
01:06:14
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Thoroughly written, sharpened to timely. Political brewing. What does that mean? They wrote the whole thing. They it all. Sharpened to timely. They did it all. Sharpened to timely.
01:06:26
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Yeah. Thoroughly written, sharpened to timely, politically brewing extent, finely directed that heightens the papal drama to considerably respectful and deservingly correct heights.
01:06:39
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And impeccably performed by flawless embodiment, this is another triumph for Berger to showcase peaks and intellectual drive towards an astonishing reception.
01:06:50
Speaker
A minus. This can't be a real person. That's outrageous. That is... It's... This has to be AI, right? I think But AI doesn't spit out shit like this.
01:07:02
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i think I don't know what this is. It might not be AI just by virtue of it. doesn't sound like something a human being would write. Whereas AI is all about being trained on like what an actual human would say.
01:07:16
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Maybe he's writing this to confound AI. Maybe this is like yeah poetry that I'm supposed to draw meaning from. Yeah, he's coming in the back door. He's coming in the back door. Thoroughly written, sharpened to timely is yeah just like those are two phrases that when you combine them, it just is making my brain explode a little bit.
01:07:39
Speaker
I also want to make it clear that there is no ah sort of punctuation between thoroughly written and sharpened to timely. It is thoroughly written, sharpened to timely. Yeah, of course. That's the way to do it.
01:07:51
Speaker
So check out Kyle M on Rotten Tomatoes if you want more cinemagraphic poetry. I mean, i mean i fear I fear that I will, and I'm not happy. no No, I'm glad you said his name. It was Kyle?
01:08:04
Speaker
was Kyle M. if If you just go to the reviews for ah Money Plane, you'll find him there. Yeah, Kyle Maniac is on there. I just want to see how it's written, because it's so hard to understand just being spoken to you.
01:08:19
Speaker
Yes. want to see it. It doesn't help to see it very much. I will tell you that. I'm sure it doesn't. But, you know, here we are. Well, here we are. It's time to play Guess the Title.
01:08:40
Speaker
Let me tell you about this brand new game. Where you guess the movie's name. You just tell me what the title is prove you know about showbiz.
01:08:56
Speaker
Guess the title. Whipper, whipper, whipper, whipper. Guess the title. Gooby, gooby, gooby, gooby. Guess the title. Guess the title.
01:09:06
Speaker
Come on, honey. the title. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:09:17
Speaker
All right. So do you guys remember the wunderkind producer that I mentioned at the context, Richard Switzer? Sure. Yeah, I love Switzer. Yeah, of course. Well, we're going to be doing guess the title with the films of Richard de Switzer.
01:09:32
Speaker
Well, i'm not going to know any of them, but go on. No, that's why it's guess the title. We don't call the game know the title. ah So I will read you the plot description and then i will read you three possible titles and you will buzz in and tell me which one you think it is. You'll buzz in by saying your own name.
01:09:50
Speaker
And if you don't get it, your opponent has a chance to steal. Is everybody ready? Yes, but do wait till he's finished to buzz in. Yes. Good point, Greg. Question number one.
01:10:04
Speaker
Zach and Claire have a newborn son called Owen. They hire Vera as the baby's nanny, providing some relief to the new parents. But what led to their surrogate Liz killing herself?
01:10:20
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Is that baby mama drama? Most innocent or beware the night nurse. Mark. Greg.
01:10:32
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ah Mark.
01:10:36
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I think they actually called it beware the night nurse.
01:10:40
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Correct. Mark is on the board. All right. Question number two. A young radio show producer sets her recently separated boss up on live air blind dates to save their dying show, but accidentally falls for one of the contenders and must choose between her head or her heart in time for Christmas.
01:11:07
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What? Oh, he's doing is's doing Hallmark stuff. Yeah, he'll do some Hallmark. He does some Lifetime. ah Sure. Is this ice work if you on Christmas Frequency?
01:11:20
Speaker
National public Romeo or 12 days of dates. Ooh, Greg, Greg, 12 days of dates.
01:11:32
Speaker
No, I'm sorry, Mark. Can you steal? ah whatever the one that's not national public Romeo, the other one, a Christmas frequency. Yeah. Yeah. I'll do that.
Game Highlights and More Movie Fun
01:11:44
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Correct. Correct.
01:11:47
Speaker
Two points for Mark. It's all right, Greg. There's plenty of game left to play. Listen, you know me. yeah I don't play to win. I play to play. All right. That's why you're a player. And that starred Denise Richards. Oh, good for her.
01:12:01
Speaker
Toby appears to be an an ordinary dog living the simple life. But unbeknownst to his family, he moonlates as a secret government operative. Haven't I seen this?
01:12:12
Speaker
You should. Well, have you seen For Your Paws Only? double O dog or agent Toby barks, Mark, Mark.
01:12:26
Speaker
Fuck. I think I want to see the third one, going the first one actually for your paws only. Yeah.
01:12:35
Speaker
All right. I'm sorry, Greg. Can you steal? Let's do Toby barks. That is correct. It is Agent Toby Barks. It seemed too on the nose. Agent Toby Barks was voiced by John Lovitz. Of course he was.
01:12:50
Speaker
Question number four. After losing her job as a baker, Isabel finds herself seeking adventure in a new town. When she suspect suspects her recent thrift store find, a mysterious recipe book, may hold clues to its former owner's death, she sets out to crack the case.
01:13:09
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Is that called The Butcher and the Baker? The Recipe Files or Unleavened? Mark. Mark?
01:13:20
Speaker
I think it's The Recipe Files.
01:13:24
Speaker
That's correct. I think I've seen that. I think I've seen that. I've watched that. I've watched that. Well, he produced that one. Question number five.
01:13:36
Speaker
A seven-year-old girl befriends a teacup pig named Arlo. This sounds really sexy. Is that called Pigtails? Lil Stinkers?
01:13:48
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Or Arlo the Burping Pig? I'm going to say... wanted to be any of them. Sorry. I think it's Arlo the Burping Pig because that's too elaborate for you to have made up, I feel like.
01:14:03
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Correct.
01:14:06
Speaker
I fat fingered the the stream deck, but yes, it is Arlo the burping pig. I believe yeah ah it might have been Andrew Lawrence is the voice of the burping pig.
01:14:21
Speaker
Question number six. He would have to be. He's a trained voice actor. He did it for ages.
01:14:27
Speaker
Olivia struggles to sort out truth from fiction after her daughter mysteriously vanishes during a camping trip with the neighbors. Is that, is my daughter really dead?
01:14:39
Speaker
Park fear or gone by daylight? Greg. Greg. Is my daughter really dead?
01:14:50
Speaker
You've got it. Yep. Yeah, I felt like that was it too. I think I've heard of that because how can you forget a title like that? It's a great title.
01:15:01
Speaker
I've always wondered if my daughter was really dead. Yeah, maybe she's not. Are you dead? Are you really dead? don't know. i I call her sometimes. I call her sometimes. i just call her sometimes. I don't know.
01:15:14
Speaker
Question number seven. A widowed mother takes a job as an overnight security guard to keep an eye on her teenage daughter during the day. During her shift, she witnesses a murder, or does she?
01:15:28
Speaker
lu Is that a mother's eyes, malicious mind games, or overnight watch?
01:15:39
Speaker
Greg? Greg. A mother's eyes.
01:15:45
Speaker
No, I'm sorry. It's not a mother's eyes. i just had to try. I think it's ah the second one because it's like so generic. Malicious mind games? Yeah.
01:15:56
Speaker
Correct. Question number eight.
01:16:02
Speaker
When an ambitious realtor and her daughter are held hostage during an open house, they must work together to outsmart their captors. Is that...
01:16:14
Speaker
Below Asking, Hostage House, or Let Us Out.
01:16:22
Speaker
Greg? Greg? Below Asking.
01:16:27
Speaker
No, I'm sorry. that is the better That's the better title, but I bet it's just Let Us Out.
01:16:36
Speaker
No, I'm sorry. That one was Hostage House. All right, we lost that one. Interesting. I wouldn't have guessed that. I mean, I didn't. Yeah. All right. Question number nine. Last one.
01:16:47
Speaker
A married couple on the verge of divorce are hiking through the rainforest of Columbia when suddenly they become trapped in quicksand. Is that?
01:17:00
Speaker
How is that a movie? How is that a movie? I don't know. I got another 80 minutes of this. like From what I saw the trailer, I think they spend a lot of the movie in quicksand.
01:17:13
Speaker
um Is that movie called Deeper, Don't Struggle, or Quicksand? Mark.
01:17:24
Speaker
Mark. I'm just going to say Quicksand. I bet it's called Quicksand. I mean, you would have to. you would have to call it Quicksand.
01:17:36
Speaker
I've also realized, like, I'm sure it's just going like a lot of bickering. Like, that's going to be the like the the main problem is not going to be the quicksand. It's going to be that they can't work together. so Would you stop struggling and lay flat? Have you not watched videos?
Batty Awards and Conclusion
01:17:48
Speaker
You don't tell me what to
01:17:52
Speaker
Well, I think there's also some Colombian drug runners running around. So you got to make some sense. That would make more sense than frankly. Well, congratulations to Mark. You're the big wiener.
01:18:03
Speaker
and Good job. oh but but but Guess what? It's time for the Batty Awards.
01:18:16
Speaker
Now you're messing with the Batty Awards. Now you're messing with the Batty Awards. Now you're messing with the Batty Awards.
01:18:28
Speaker
Now you're messing with the Batty Awards.
01:18:33
Speaker
Congratulations to all the nominees.
01:18:39
Speaker
That's right. Congratulations to all our nominees. It's the Batty Awards. I'll kick us off. I gave a away my Batty Award earlier in the show when I mentioned it was that one line from Thomas Jane that locked me into the movie.
01:18:53
Speaker
Tell me it again. You really know how to pick them, kid.
01:18:59
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And really, it locked it in for me. But I'll give a fresh one. And I'm going to give out my new Maddie Award to The Edge's Little Glasses.
01:19:10
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Little were just. I love when he's wearing Little Glasses. He's like. He's like, I'm a businessman. I'm in disguise. And it's funny because ah like Dave Bautista pulled him off in like Blade Runner and stuff. legal grasses But he puts them on and it's like, you look ridiculous.
01:19:29
Speaker
Yeah, they do not suit his face at all. ah So salute to you, the Edge's little glasses. Greg, do you have a batty of work?
01:19:39
Speaker
I do. ah It's for my favorite fight move in the entire movie. So the Edge breaks in after they get rid of the pilot. The Edge breaks in. It's like, shit, co-pilot. And he fights him and he takes him down and then he sits down. And as he's talking to somebody or doing something,
01:19:57
Speaker
That co-pilot gets back up and he sneaks up behind him And he does he does the absolute best thing you could if you're going to sneak up on someone by surprise. He puts his finger in his mouth. He gives him a fish hook for some reason. and he like yanks him back. It's like strangle him or like knock him on the head or do anything other than put your finger in his mouth.
01:20:19
Speaker
Because then he does exactly what you should do, which is bite the finger. And the guy's like, oh, shit. And let's just go. This is what the TSA recommends. Yeah. co-pilot if there is if there is someone taking over the plane you fish hook them that's the only effective tool they never plan for the defense against the fisher that's i mean i'll tell you what it's like a it's like a slap you're often just shocked afterward and might not know what to do yeah well marco do you have batty ward
01:20:53
Speaker
I mean, i i guess it's really just as bad as so many things are in this movie. I really think it's like ah the the costume and really set design.
01:21:08
Speaker
The set designer or jail. yeah yeah Beyond like the glass like Floating table on the plane there's also a bunch houseplants And then like the they go to the bar And it's all like multicolored beverages It's like Have you seen liquor before? again yeah It's like it looks like yeah It's like pink, it's blue and yeah It's like a bunch of coolant It's just like What is wrong with you?
01:21:36
Speaker
yeah so She should go to jail I know I assumed there's a woman Oh god Cut that. Cut that. Cut that out. No problem.
01:21:47
Speaker
I will edit in me saying the set director's name. And ah congratulations on your Batty Award. on your I'm sure you did not have a lot of resources to work with. You did a great job doing it with what you could.
01:22:02
Speaker
Salute. ah Salute to you listeners for making it to the end of the show. Salute you, and Mark, for being on the show. It's great to see you. Do you have anything to plug? Are you working on anything right now? ah I'm hoping to jump off a bridge pretty soon, but otherwise I'm fine. Yeah.
01:22:19
Speaker
nothing follow Nothing to follow now. right. Yeah. Do not follow Mark off the bridge listeners. That's a personal choice that that Mark is making. And don't but don't you ever make that choice, listeners. We love you. And seriously, reach out if you need help.
01:22:33
Speaker
And i'm going to reach out to you because we need your help. because we need that five stars, brother. We need you to leave a comment. We need you to find us on social media. We need you to tell your best friend, I love you. And you should listen to this podcast, your favorite bad movie podcast.
01:22:52
Speaker
And the other thing that you should do is you should come back next week for our one year anniversary show. We made it one year. We're going to be having Stefan Noons.
01:23:06
Speaker
We're going to be talking about don't tell mom the babysitter's dead. We're going to have other special guests. We're going surprises. Probably I'm going to try really hard to think of some surprises this week and it's going to be great. You don't want to miss it.
01:23:22
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ah I'm going to play us off with a little bit of the edges entrance music and until next time ah be good. Goodbye. Have a good one.
01:23:34
Speaker
Yeah. You think you know me. You think you know me.