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Episode 48: Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dream Coat featuring Kev Koeser
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Podcaster Extraordinaire Kev Koeser (Talking Trek to You, Total Massacre, Tasting Menu) is sitting down with the crew to spotlight Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat (1999). This Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice musical stars Donny Osmond as the titular Joseph, but the narrator should be mentioned as she’s maybe the most important character in the film. And our intrepid crew tries to break down why ALW seems to be a part of us all for some reason. Learn something about yourself and tune in.
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Introduction to the Bad Movie Podcast
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It's bad to be bad, it's bad to be bad, and I guess it's understood that you would, if you could, and you know that you should, yes you know that you should.
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Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to your favorite bad movie podcast. The only podcast that's brave enough to ask the question, if this movie's so bad, why do you like it so much?
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We're your hosts. My name is Chris Anderson, and with me as always, I have my amazing Technicolor dream friend, Mr. Greg Bossy. Hello.
Meet the Hosts and Guests
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How are you doing today, Greg? I'm doing all right. How are you?
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Oh, I'm hanging in there. Boy, adjusting to this time change. Yeah. Not to date the episode. No, don't do that. No, it would ruin it for everyone.
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I, of course, also have with us this week the Mrs. Patafar to my Patafar, Mrs. Anna Anderson. Hello.
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how are you doing, my dove? Oh, I'm a little under the weather, but but I'm hanging in there. I'm going to draw and hold myself back and not like... um Which is going to be hard because I enjoyed this one.
Kev's Favorite Bad Movie: Joseph
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But I'm going to not to talk too much because I i i feel like that would be foolhardy. Well, I trust you to moderate your... Moderate?
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I trust you to... I trust you, my love. We also have with us a very special guest. You might know him from his ah time touring with Max Rebo.
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You might know him as ah the host of at least three different podcasts that I'm aware of. It's Mr. Kev Kozer. Kev, how are you? I'm doing well. Yeah. um Yes. I thank you for having me and thank you for giving me an outlet to discuss a movie. Probably no other podcast would want to talk about. So this is it. That's our metier for sure.
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ah You chose as your favorite bad movie, ah Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat, the adaptation from 1999 starring Donny Osmond. Now listeners, if you haven't seen Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat, you Here's just a brief summary to hold in your mind's eye. And also don't forget that it is a musical.
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A young man has a coat that's so great his 11 brothers sell him into slavery. He rises from slave to the Pharaoh's number two only to confront those same brothers and the shoe is on the other foot.
Musical's Origins and Adaptation Challenges
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There you go. Fair enough. Yeah. it's It's a really quick plot summary because not much happens. It's a lot of dicking around. to yeahs Alan sets a and i music and Tim rice lyrics.
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It is. It is. I want to say a singularly mind melting experience. That was my overwhelming experience in the phrase that kept coming to mind was mind melting. Kev, when I asked you for a movie,
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You had this one right at the jump. You're not one of our hammers and horrors. Are you a big fan of Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat 1999? Oh, I am absolutely a big fan.
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I, yeah. Like, I watched this movie when I was, it must, I mean, it came out when I was seven and my mom must have bought the DVD, like VHS, shortly around that time. Because it's just's just so formative to me. It's like, this is one of the things we watched growing up.
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Probably because my mom had a long-standing crush on Donny Osmond. okay Also, enjoy Weber music. I mean, I run very hot and cold to him, especially as an adult. But, you know, especially this one, it's catchy. It's fun.
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And so it's just like an easy, especially for like a child like me and my brother, very sheltered and scared from a lot of movies. This is an easy one you could pop on.
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No, this was very family-friendly entertainment. You cannot take that away from this. This is, I'm going to say, arguably the most family-friendly entertainment I can imagine.
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With the possible ah exception of the murder of a goat.
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I just want to point out all the women who wear pasties for the second half of the movie. That's also striking me as I'm like, oh wow, I was showing this a kid. Oh, well, you know, that one's for dad. am I right? those ha Listen, ah Greg, Anna, had either you guys seen this ah before?
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I had not, um but it turns out I was in ah production of Joseph, the amazing technical or dream coat. I say it turns out because if you had asked me yesterday, i would have been like, yeah, my school put it on when I was a sophomore and my friends were in it, but I, I wasn't in it because I have no memory of actually being in it. But I was texting with one of my friends who was in it and who i I'm still friends with now.
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And ah found a treasure trove of pictures online from our old drama teacher.
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And there I in the chorus. Oh, yeah. so that Which explains really why i As soon as it started playing, I was like, oh my god, do I know this by heart?
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After 30 years? And yes, yes, I did know most of it. That's wild. That explains our very different viewing experiences. Yeah, I couldn't imagine. I think so.
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Had you seen this one before, Greg? I had not. um So my interaction with Andrew Lloyd Webber was I saw Phantom in Toronto on a school trip. So it's like, that's a big one. And that one to me was like super impressive. And I loved it. And I was like, this is amazing.
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Uh, and then you and I watched cats and I was like, yeah this is strange and confusing to me. Uh, to be clear, that's the 1998 cats, not the 2019 2019. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. This was like.
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Just seeing the film production of Cats, just being like, this is what they've been talking about all of my life? Is this? had a similar experience to Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat because I feel like they were kind of promoted on TV in a similar, not maybe not the same way, but like growing up when I grew up, you knew Cats, you knew Joseph and the amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat. I don't know why. i don't know what's in them, but it's like, yeah, everybody knows that. Everybody likes those, whatever those are.
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yeah So this was a bit of a surprise to finally actually see what it is. Yeah. Okay. I think that cat's nineties version is like of a piece with the Joseph one, maybe same production company or something. i think it's the same director.
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That make sense. yeah I think it's like Phantoms on Broadway, the Evita movie is coming out, so he's like hot commodity. Let's like throw some other movies of his out there in the cheapest way possible.
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And my dad, for some reason, bought the Evita soundtrack, so it's like I know some of those songs really well, though I don't know... What the plot of Avita, I mean, it's obviously it's a historical thing. So I could look it up slash read the plot on Wikipedia. But you know what I mean? Yeah, like, I don't know a lot about it, but I can sing you some of the songs from it.
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That's Andrew Lloyd Webber. That's just what he is. He's in our cultural consciousness for some reason. And I think that's one weird thing about Andrew Lloyd Webber is that people seem to get exposed to like one Andrew Lloyd Webber show. And that's the one they imprint on And every other one they're much less interested in Like I was, I imprinted on phantom because we had the, uh, two CD soundtrack oh when I was a kid and I would like play it when I was like nine or something.
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And, uh, I also was into phantom. My friend, uh, My friend Carrie DeMoss when we were 12. She's the same person who like I watched Alien with Carrie DeMoss. Have not watched it since.
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I'm planning to at the end of March. Very excited. I'm excited for you. I'm excited for you. But, you know, she she was a a lot of culture. Oh, also um Anne Rice's interview with the Vampire.
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But yeah, but we listened to Phantom and I, that was one that I used to bang out on the piano. It's very fun to play.
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yeah I'm sure. i'm sure. Yeah. Phantom is the one Angelo Babb musical, ah the canonical ones. There's plenty of duds, but that's the one of the big ones that I'm not imprinted on.
Stage vs. Film: The Art of Adaptation
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Wow. I listened to the soundtrack and like high school, being a theater kid. And they're just like, this is little over the top. And I never seen it on stage. So I think that's a component, but it's like, like this and Jesus Christ superstar were the ones I imprinted on hard. Cause my parents would play a lot.
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I parents kind of religious, not super religious, but I think they, I think that it's the target audience for those two music. Exactly. is Andrew Lloyd Webber religious?
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He went to a religious school. Okay. think that's where those musicals come from. Okay. Because I just feel like some of his early work is Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat and Jesus Christ Superstar. And it's just like, I feel like that's not what I know him for, but those are two big...
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Christian musicals, you know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, I'm just doing my research right now Wikipedia because I'm too used to being a ah host, I guess. So I actually have this at the ready. But if remember correctly, um Joseph was written for like a Christian school to perform with it, like a ya boys school.
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Yeah, yeah. So I was reading... I was reading a little about it because it started as like a school production thing where they would get children involved. It was originally 30 minutes long. And then eventually over time, it just kept growing and growing.
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And then I think in 82, finally got its Broadway, got its actual Broadway debut. Well, yeah it sounds like I don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing. Let's get to the context portion of this one.
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Wish I had some context About the background of the film Script director actors on set What was going on on screen? I wanna hear some details Gossips can do all that shit Can't imagine all the time again
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So Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat came out on November 26th, 1999. ninety ninety nine It was directed by David Millett and Steven Pimlott. And it had the tagline, Tim Rice and Andrew Lloyd Webber's Classic Family Musical.
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Okay. Certainly apt. I'm just surprised Tim Rice got top billing there. Yeah, yeah. ye ah Yeah, he's not as big a draw. But who knows what kind of contract negotiations went into that.
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ah Now, I think it's fair to say that Tim Rice and Andrew Lloyd Webber were one of the most successful writing duos in Broadway history. I'd Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat was their first produced collaboration in 1967. It began as a 15 minute cantata, but expanded in its early days of production ah with the two of them continuing to revise and expand it into a complete stage musical that was produced in London's West End 1973.
00:12:43
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Oh, wow. Yeah. wow Largely ah that was able to get produced because the previous year they released their second musical, Jesus Christ Superstar.
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And that was a huge hit. Yeah. So two big home runs right out of the gate. And I believe Andrew Lloyd Webber was 17 years old when the two of them started working together. And Tim Rice was like in his early twenty s
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Now, in 1991, the show was restaged with Steven Pimlott, one of our directors, ah in the director's chair for this theatrical production. it was very It was a very successful run. The cast album was number one for two weeks in the United Kingdom.
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Then it had its North American premiere in 1992 when it opened in Toronto at the Elgin Theater. And this production would star Mr. Donny Osmond, noted Mormon child pop star.
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So you can see all of our our puzzle pieces coming into place here. Donny Osmond would play Joseph for another five years in a touring production. And two years after he left that production, when they started working on the filmed version, Donny Osmond would obviously be towards the top of the list of actors who would be considered for the role.
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Uh, now this movie is essentially a filmed stage production. It's one of those types of deals, even though it doesn't actually happen on a stage. They're in locations. Those locations are very minimal and very stage like.
00:14:17
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Yeah. Uh, So they would have the one theater director on board to handle the sort of mise-en-scene, all the actors and singing and costumery and this, that, and the other.
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But they would need a film director for the ah making a movie part of directing. And ah for that, they got David Mallett. David Mallett had just directed the or filmed stage production of Cats a year earlier, like we were talking about.
00:14:49
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And I think it's really interesting to compare that. but I'm going to step aside from my nose for a second. I think it is very interesting to compare that production with the 2019 cats, almost to the point where I would consider having a double feature, ah except that sounds incredibly torturous.
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It would be difficult, I think. but like one of them you watch, it was like, it's wild that they spent so much money making something so weird and formless and is just sort of structuralist songs about cats for two hours with no narrative.
00:15:24
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And then the other version you watch it is like, it's so weird that they also did this in a stage just in front of people. They're both incredibly strange. It doesn't seem to work in either context. And it was the largest, most successful musical for, know,
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All time, maybe? So it it had a... it There was a time, yeah, where it was like Crazy Pots are the longest running. I don't think so. I don't know 100%. But I had some thoughts on that.
00:15:51
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So when I saw Cats 2019 in the theater, I went with a friend who... And his girlfriend came with us, and she had been in Cats... And she didn't she did not like the movie because she's like, couldn't see any of the dancing. And this makes total sense to me. But she's yeah into Cats.
00:16:07
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She's into Cats production. And then that friend of mine who saw the movie then saw the production recently. And I was like what did you think of Cats on stage? He's like, I actually liked it And I feel like I saw Phantom of the Opera, well, I was impressed with the Phantom of the Opera that was on television. i don't know if I would still be impressed with it as an adult and not ah like a 16 or 17 year old.
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But I still might be impressed by that stage production of Phantom of the Opera. ah really feel like... You can make a film of an Andrew Lloyd Webber musical, but I think it's going to have to be closer to Evita, which I didn't see, but in my brain is at least closer to a traditional film. And all of his stuff is very much for the stage.
00:16:54
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And I feel like when you take it out of that context, it just gets super weird. yeah I can confirm that Evita feels like more like a film, and that kind of also has that tension between it, where it's like... Okay, I could see that.
00:17:08
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work yeah The best movies,
Behind the Scenes with David Mallet
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in my opinion, there's also the 70s Jesus Christ Superstar, which also feels very stagey, but in great way. Yeah. then Yeah.
00:17:19
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And then there's that NBC, the John Legend, excuse me, superstar, which is a production. yeah And I love that production. I thought that was pretty good, actually. Yeah.
00:17:30
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And I think, yeah, I think there's a real point you're making that's correct, which is like, you need the staginess to stay intact when doing Andrew Lloyd Webber. Yeah. It's just part of the deal. Yeah. Yeah. yeah Oh, and I, that just reminded Greg, you and I did watch the Gerard Butler Phantom of the Opera. Yes, we did. Yes, we did. Which was entertaining enough.
00:17:51
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ah But I feel like stage production. I don't need to see it again. Yeah, that stage production I would see again. I'll only watch that Joel Schumacher film just the two times I've seen it at this point in my life.
00:18:02
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Yeah, I think, I think we're ready to put that one to the dustbin of history. I've seen it enough times. Yeah. All right. Now, David Mallette, in addition to directing that ah production of Cats a year earlier, he also ah was mostly known for directing music videos and concert movies.
00:18:22
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ah And I wrote down a big list, but actually we're going to be talking about those music videos in Greg's game. Everybody stick around for Greg's premiere debut hosting a game on the show.
00:18:35
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Very exciting. ah but did you talk at all about the concert videos, Greg? I have one in there. I have one question about it. Okay, then.
00:18:45
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Well, I'll just mention he did direct concert videos for U2, Rush, Pink Floyd, The Rolling Stones, Rod Stewart, and Cher, amongst many others. And I will say that my questions are geared in a way that I think you will still have trouble answering it correctly, Chris. Oh, I'm 100% sure I will. his i i My count was over 100 music videos. It's a lot of music videos. It's crazy.
00:19:09
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yeah No, his his resume in this field is impeccable. Yeah. ah So it seems sort of like everyone who you would want to be involved with this production is involved.
00:19:21
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You've got the perfect star. You've got the biggest... uh, uh, songwriting duo in Broadway history. You've got a director who worked with, ah these actors for years on London's biggest stage, as well as a director with this impeccable live music event resume.
00:19:43
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You know, this, this sounds like a dream team. Uh, Shooting took only three weeks, so that's a little bit rushed.
00:19:54
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ah They were unable to secure theatrical distribution, so it was dumped straight to video with occasional airings on PBS.
00:20:05
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I think...
00:20:07
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Obviously, like Kev was saying earlier, this is something that was made very cheaply yeah because they assumed that it would have a limited audience. And I think if if you are not a musical theater fan, this is not going to make you one.
1999's Musical Film Landscape
00:20:24
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Probably not. I'm to say, yeah, I don't think that's even, that's not its aim. It's very much like no this is an adaptation. Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:36
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And I think also, if you're not a Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat fan, I don't think it's going to make you a Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat. No. but somewhat Somewhat akin to Cool as Ice.
00:20:47
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Yeah, exactly. This is made for a very specific group, and yeah I guess you have to judge it on those merits. Other musicals that came out in 1999, just to put a thing in its place, you got Oklahoma starring Hugh Jackman.
00:21:05
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You got Annie with Victor Garber as Daddy Warbucks. Okay. You've got ah the animated version of The King and I. Okay.
00:21:16
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You've got Tarzan, Elton John, and Tim Rice. Am I remembering that correctly? Phil Collins? Phil Collins, yeah. Okay. Oh, maybe that's why Tim Rice. They did Lion King, right? Yes.
00:21:30
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Maybe that's why he got top billing because he was actually people did actually know his name at that time because of the Lion King that would make sense ah you also got South Park Bigger Longer and Uncut and Fantasia 2000 oh hey remember the lesser Fantasia do call it existing Heavy Metal tried to do something similar with similar results oh yeah
00:22:02
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Well, you guys want to talk about the plot of Joseph and the amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat? Of course. Yes.
00:22:26
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Plot bumper, listen to me. I'm gonna give you the plot summary. Come on, baby. Here's the synopsis.
00:22:38
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Plot bumper, plot bumper.
In-Depth Plot and Character Analysis
00:22:52
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Well, I will say that not a lot happens in this movie. Yeah. I will say also that things are constantly happening. Yes. Yes. There's a lot going on.
00:23:03
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Yeah. One of my challenges as the summary writer is trying to figure out the appropriate level of granularity. and trying to lock into that within the first paragraph, because then I'm committed.
00:23:15
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So we'll see how I did. Okay. We open on a school gym slash auditorium. Uniformed school children file in and take their seats, followed by the school faculty, followed by the narrator.
00:23:30
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The narrator... Oh, yes? that This intro felt very much like a music video to me. Yes. Oh, yeah. Very... like just You keep going. I'm trying to the name of it. I kept expecting to see like the shot of the shoes walking up the aisle to like all the kids going in place to just see like that little text bubble pop up in the bottom. Just being like, this is by artist so-and-so with their songs on this album.
00:23:56
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And it was just like, no, no, no, no. This is musical. Yeah, this is a musical movie. Yes. But also it had that ah title font that was just like chalkboard font. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:24:09
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That just looked like started instantly. And this movie is what? Like it was 80 minutes. It was tight. They rushed through these credits.
00:24:20
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total clips no arc That was the music video I was trying to pull that this reminds me Yes, yes, yes. I mean, also a little bit of Jeremy I could see in there and also a little bit of the wall.
00:24:31
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Mm-hmm. Now, ah the narrator is a blonde woman with a pixie cut and a very brassy singing voice who sings about 30 to 40% of the show.
00:24:44
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All her songs are sort of formless filler song between character songs. And I found any time she was singing to be absolutely maddening. Yeah. dale Yeah.
00:24:58
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okay i pay so this here I guess I'm here to defend Maria Friedman's honor. I mean, her songs, the filler songs that like bridge the gaps aren't good. Like those are the weakest songs, obviously.
00:25:09
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I wrote down some lyrics from one of them just just as an example for people at home. Jacob was the founder of a whole new nation thanks to the number of children he had. which is just two sentences. Like, it doesn't sound like lyrics to me. And I feel like a lot of her stuff has to be like, here's what the plot is.
00:25:28
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And then we cut to a song, which is just people singing for a while about emotions or particular moments. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's, I kept, I kept saying whenever Chris would be like, what is happening?
00:25:41
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I'd be like, that's musical theater, baby. and he protested that if you feel like a lot of musical theory, it isn't like this. I think what I meant, like, this is closer to, like, an operetta? Yeah. Because it's it's all sung.
00:25:58
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And I can see that you'd rather have ah that break of to have, like, dialogue instead of instead of that that ah brassy narration.
00:26:12
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that's... It's just aggressive. It's play very overstimulating to me. Yeah. I... I think a lot of those like clumsy Tim Rice lyrics are just like a necessary evil for it being A, sung sung through as we're seeing. Everything is singing.
00:26:30
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Yeah. yeah yeah adapt Adapting a biblical story as in a story that existed before a story structure existed. Yes, exactly. And then a bunch of stuff happened. Isn't that wacky? Yeah, it's... in the And then also like biblical stories don't need to have a character arc per se in a long run.
00:26:48
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So you end up with this kind of it's like there are kind of three or four points to this story, but when you put them next to each other, they feel more like a series of events. And I'm not poo-pooing Tim Rice's lyrics. I'm just saying that like, they just have to be perfunctory. They just have to convey a certain amount of information, which is very weird to do. Yeah. Well, and I think,
00:27:11
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I just think he has a lot of great lyrics in this show, like, and other points. And sometimes exposition lyrics are, like, very funny. um I wish I went on a specific examples, but, like, there are times where just, like, I laugh almost like how he got, like, a clumsy plot point in there and made it rhyme in a funny way.
00:27:28
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Mm-hmm. No, he's showing off a little bit. Yeah, exactly. He tries to make it fun, but it's also strange that... like all the sort of non-interstitial songs, all the sort of other songs are just character songs that just tell you about the person who's singing and how they're feeling.
00:27:48
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Whereas her songs are the ones that always advance the plot. Yes. right So like anytime she's singing in this sort of brassy form, like a lot of it doesn't even, I would be hard pressed to call songs. It's just more music than it is songs.
00:28:04
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And it just sort of, It's her telling you about all the sheep are dead. Joseph's brothers hate him. They're plotting to do this thing, blah, blah, blah, blah. But then we stop and we have one character sing a song like this is me. This is what's going on with me. And they just have more emotional resonance. And it's so they're easier for me to lock in on. Yeah.
00:28:26
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Well, anyway, that's where we all landed on the narrator.
00:28:32
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She sings to the kids in the audience that the world is filled with all types of folks, but they all have one thing in common. and They all dream. But sometimes those dreams come true.
00:28:45
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That's when Joseph, our hero, played by Donnie Hosman, enters to marimba music, singing an introductory song called Any Dream Will Do. The kids serve as both choir and audience, which Anna tells me is not strange.
00:29:02
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And then the song ends with ah prolonged unbroken eye contact between Donnie Osmond and the camera as he slowly intones, any dream will do.
00:29:18
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What do you guys think of Donnie Osmond in this movie? Looking like a million bucks. Oh, sure. That's true. That's true. I think so. How old was he? I looked up how you were wondering how old he was.
00:29:30
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. He's 42. He was born in 15. Okay. So, yeah. So he's looking good. And more to ah my point, like his voice is really good for like, not that, you know, 42 is most people still have a decent voice at 42, but how about he has just a really clear, great tenor.
00:29:57
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Yeah, I think he does a good job with the part. I think he's got the voice for it. Yeah, I think i think he he like he understood the arrogance for it.
00:30:09
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Fair enough. Yeah, his energy is just so fun throughout. I really like his performance. um I mean, this is getting ahead of the plot a little bit, but there's a bit where he has to wrestle with a snake puppet on his arm and make it look like a snake yeah attacking him.
00:30:22
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And that's just what I always think of when I think of his performance. It's like, that is so goofy and broad, and he is selling the shit. Like, not selling convincingly, but like, selling the energy so well. Yeah.
00:30:35
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Yeah, I think he's locked into what he's got to be doing. He does have sort of a Christian camp counselor vibe to him. Yes. But that's sort of the show. ah i The reason I asked how old is he he was is like in my brain, I think Joseph is supposed to be a young man.
00:30:52
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so it is strange to see someone of his age be a young man. But at the same time, it it absolutely just kind of works. like It's a very boyish face. Yeah. And ah he just he doesn't look like a boy, but it just I don't know why it just works.
00:31:09
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Yeah. His face also looks like it was Photoshopped from another person onto his head, but that may be true. It's not his fault. So we're transported to a large desert vista that may or may not be a green screen or a set, but it's definitely not real.
00:31:26
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And there we're introduced to Joseph's father, Jacob, and also his 11 brothers. Thankfully, the brothers largely function as a collective unit, so we don't really need to keep track of their individual names or identities.
00:31:40
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Now we find out that Joseph is Jacob's favorite son because his mom was Jacob's favorite wife. Kind of a weird vibe, but but that's cool. Jacob loves Joseph so much that he gives them a big, amazing coat, a floor length rainbow trench coat.
00:31:58
Speaker
Looks great. Yeah. It's really great. Yeah. yeah
00:32:05
Speaker
Now, Joseph's 11 brothers are insanely jealous of Joseph's relationship with their father and his amazing coat. There's ah very long song about the coat where the narrator lists all the colors of the coat, and it felt like it was melting my brain.
00:32:21
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That will be our closing credits this week.
00:32:26
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usually And green and ochre and pink and green and ochre and pink and green and ochre and pink. it Jesus Christ. Yeah. Y'all hear it. Listener.
00:32:37
Speaker
ah Joseph then sings about a dream he had. That was about wheat. And he thinks that it's going to pretend that someday he's going to be a great man. Something like a government employee. He's very excited.
00:32:49
Speaker
if Yeah. Yeah. The brothers have decided that they've had enough of his shit, ah so they beat Joseph up, steal his coat, throw him in a pit, and then sell him into slavery to the Ishmaelites.
00:33:02
Speaker
They also tear up his coat, and they cover it in goat's blood. Back at the house, Jacob's oldest son sings a country number about how Joseph died fighting a goat, and that's why his coat is tore up and covered in goat's blood.
00:33:17
Speaker
I thought this was arguably the best song in the film. It's a really good one. I have my favorite. It's the one I remembered the most. I think it had ah sort of the most character. i think it was definitely the funniest song.
00:33:31
Speaker
um i'll throw my I'll throw my vote in later for the song that I think is my favorite one. I recall this one being pretty good. ah Okay. But it's not my favorite. All right. I'm excited for your pick. i um oh Well, we'll see.
00:33:45
Speaker
Now, the good news is Joseph gets bought by an Egyptian millionaire named Patifar. ah the Potiphar sequence, I think, is the most visually striking sequence the film. it oh of yeah Gary Newman's cars or Klaus Nomi is very monochromatic. There's a lot of triangles meant to evoke pyramids. it's It's a really awesome, like genuinely cool part of the movie. Yeah, yeah. It looks incredible.
00:34:14
Speaker
No, it it is looks great on film, too. Like, it's really nice. There's lots of wide angle shots and beautiful monochromatic sets. And speaking of beautiful, we also meet Potiphar's beautiful wife, played by Joan Collins.
00:34:30
Speaker
Every child's favorite. Definitely. Yeah. We all love, ah what was she famous for? Soap operas? I think so. Sure. Guests appearing on murder shows later in life.
00:34:44
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Being ah caught out by that brusque detective Columbo. That's right. ah So, yeah, Potivar finds out about their ah possible canoodling.
00:34:59
Speaker
It's open to interpretation. I'm going to say whether or not they actually did the nasty. I don't even know. Does anybody know what the Bible says? I haven't looked into it. The Bible says that she assaulted him and then told her husband that ah he assaulted her.
00:35:17
Speaker
Classic. Yeah. It's unpleasant. Classic stuff. ah but Yeah. And Joseph, an innocent man, winds up in jail. That's right. Now, understandably, Joseph is pretty down at this point, and he has a sad song about being sad.
00:35:35
Speaker
But the other prisoners tell him to cheer up. So that's nice. So the Prisoner's song, is this... So the Prisoner's song was my favorite. Yes, it was a song.
00:35:47
Speaker
It's my favorite, too. It's in great. Yeah, that one was great. But I feel like... The one where he's I don't think... Is there another one after the sad one? That's what I wanted to ask. Yeah, that's the one. That's the one that I'm thinking of.
00:36:02
Speaker
it's It's hard for me to... as everything is sung it's sometimes although there are clear like delineations in my brain they don't quite exist yet so yeah we'll get there and some of the songs aren't stylistically differentiated enough from that sort of interstitial music that it's hard to tell when one stops and another one starts yeah uh but yeah go go go joseph had big the apple vibes to me yes yeah yeah yeah yeah It was definitely the speed of Joseph and the Amazing Deck the Color Dreamcoat.
00:36:37
Speaker
ah And it was my siren song, so. Yeah. Much like speed. ah Two of the Pharaoh's servants, a baker and a butler, show up in the prison.
00:36:48
Speaker
They ask Joseph to interpret their dreams because they've heard he knows how to do that. That hasn't really come up very much previously in the show, other than interpreting his own dream. But, ah you know, you just sort of roll with it in the moment.
00:37:00
Speaker
Uh, he tells the butler that he's soon going to be getting out of jail. And he tells the baker that he's going to be executed. Then it turns out he's right. And then we have a song called go, go, go Joseph, which sounds also like a really good, like anime from the seventies.
00:37:17
Speaker
Yeah. And it's ah sort of about how things are going to about to start looking up. Don't you worry, Joseph, you've got it now. fairly certain it's the act one closing number if it was on stage yeah yeah it definitely feels like it yeah and it's a weird juxtaposition to have what i think is supposed to be the low point of joseph's narrative arc but you have to have a high energy number to end the act so you're just like well things are about to get better huh
00:37:49
Speaker
the The colors of the costumes of the people who come out and do the literal go-go dancing are just... yeah ah it look Again, it just looks really good for such a such a cheaply made movie.
00:38:02
Speaker
Yeah, you gotta imagine i are that. were just I feel like a lot of the costumes must be just borrowed from the stage production. i it just like Probably all the choreography. like This is all on loan.
00:38:13
Speaker
was the Were the prison sets part of the stage choreography at the time? Does anybody know? i was curious about that. I don't think these ones because they were circular. Yeah. We didn't know if that was an interesting representation or not. I don't know.
00:38:27
Speaker
Yeah. I imagine they were modeled maybe on what would have been in the stage production, but I think they were probably built for the film if I had to guess.
00:38:37
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Act two starts with our narrator back in front of our proscenium arch. We're resetting for a moment. She sings to the kids about ah the Pharaoh, who's a big deal, as you might have imagined, because he's the Pharaoh.
00:38:54
Speaker
Joseph is still in jail, but the butler has gotten word to the Pharaoh that Joseph is good at interpreting dreams, and Pharaoh needs a guy to come interpret a dream that's been bothering him lately, so Pharaoh has him brought to the palace.
00:39:07
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The Pharaoh then sings an Elvis pastiche, which is kind of fun. yeah At least it's something different is definitely a surprise.
00:39:19
Speaker
I thought this one was going to be your favorite Greg when you had a second favorite, because this is my second. So, I mean, this is a pretty close one. Like this is a fun moment. And I just remember being like surprised in just in a really delighted way.
00:39:32
Speaker
But i he's also like, he's singing an Elvis style song, but he's singing about a dream where seven cows eat seven other cows and then seven ears of corn eat seven other ears of corn.
00:39:44
Speaker
And they didn't even have corn. Corn's a new world fruit.
00:39:50
Speaker
But corn in the Bible just means grain. and think. well early Or maybe like Pharaoh. One of them. or There's already Pharaoh. Or not millet. I think they would mention it if it were millet.
00:40:06
Speaker
Because millets are little. Yeah. Now, let's see. Yeah, he sings a song about cows and corn. And Joseph tells him that this means he's going to have seven years of bounty followed by seven years of famine.
00:40:21
Speaker
And Pharaoh is so impressed that he instantly makes Joseph his economic advisor. yep Now, time progresses. And back at Jacob's house, things are going tough with the family.
00:40:35
Speaker
It must be seven years later because this famine has hit. The family's in bad shape. Their sheep are all dead and are prop skeletal sheep that are all pretty cool. So funny. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, that's a good gag.
00:40:50
Speaker
One of the brothers sings a chanson or a torch song, according to my wife. It's one of the two, Anna. Yeah. yeah One of the two. And ah it's just one of those sort of like French songs with an accordion. That's like bo boom boom bo bo that kind of vibe.
00:41:09
Speaker
ah But there's a ah sort of comedic, sexy tango in the middle. I'll never complain about a sexy tango in a movie. ah They decide the brothers that they should go to Egypt and ask for help from the Egyptian government because Egypt somehow still has plenty of food in the course of this famine.
00:41:29
Speaker
And when they get to Egypt, it turns out that the guy that they need to ask is Joseph. And they don't recognize him. But he recognizes them. Maybe because there are 11 of them.
00:41:41
Speaker
It's true. There's only so many 11 brothers where one of them is named Dan and another one named Gad. nine on guys ah So he makes them beg before agreeing to give them some grub.
00:41:57
Speaker
But he also takes this opportunity to frame the youngest brother, Benjamin, by hiding a golden cup in his bucket. Basket, bag, something.
00:42:09
Speaker
ah Now, when Benjamin gets caught with it and the other 10 brothers decide to sing a Calypso song about how Benjamin is innocent and they all should get punished instead of him.
00:42:24
Speaker
What did you guys think of this Calypso number? so It's fun. I think this is the part where I'm like, this has gone on a little long. yet Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:36
Speaker
i do I do like, the in a vacuum, I do like this number and a lot of the other like big character numbers you were saying before. this one It's like a very fun vibe. think the actor playing Judah, I believe, was the brother singing it? He's got like a great like voice and a great like energy.
00:42:51
Speaker
He does. um Obviously, it it helps that that that there are some that some of the brothers are black. Judah is black. It helps that the guy performing your Calypso number is not a white 15 year old like it was in our production. Sure. Yeah, I could see that.
00:43:12
Speaker
And I like at this point, I was sort of like, this has got to be pretty close to the end of the movie. It's weird to have such like a ah mid tempo number. like, but a bird who, but a bird who, but a bird who, but bird who, but bird but bird who,
00:43:27
Speaker
it felt weird emotionally also that like they're begging for their brother's life to the sounds of Calypso. Yeah. But at the same time, it was at least something fresh and something new. And it was interesting to see ah another arrow that they had in their quiver to do a sort of little Calypso pastiche.
00:43:48
Speaker
ah But also this time I was just like, man, we're 60 minutes in. I've, I got my eye on the prize. Yeah. but So yeah, Joseph hears this song and he realizes that his brothers have really grown since they sold him into slavery. now And you know, if they're willing to stand up for Benjamin like this, they must be changed men.
00:44:11
Speaker
So he reveals himself to them and all is forgiven. Joseph then returns to his father in a golden chariot wearing golden armor. And he looks sick as hell. I got to say, uh, returns the amazing technicolor dream coat, uh,
00:44:28
Speaker
The crowd of children erupt into applause, and we see that the school faculty played all of the characters in the show in our closing credits. The end.
Final Thoughts and Ratings
00:44:43
Speaker
So you guys are right. That did go pretty quick. That was pretty zippy. Yeah. Yeah. Final thoughts. Five-star rating. Where did you guys land on Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat? I mean, i don't know. if this is This is a very long final thought, but there is, we talked about the narrator, but mostly talk about Tim Rice talking about the narrator's songs.
00:45:02
Speaker
I want to give my impassioned defense of the narrator as a character. Okay, please. She left such an impression of me at a young age. Okay. It's seven or eight, so it's like the line between like crush feelings that I won't really know about until like five or six years from now, gender feelings I won't unpack until 20 years from then.
00:45:26
Speaker
Like who can say, but like, I just love her vibe. Like even when she's being dealt the lesser hand of the exposition songs, she's so peppy and like you're saying, brassy.
00:45:38
Speaker
And she's like, when she's not singing, she's the one doing the funniest gags. Like, she's like pulling out the big prop camera take a picture of the family. She's like, the way she like does jacket work, whether she's like dancing with it or slinging it over her shoulder, way her like sunglasses are, she's not wearing like cool sunglasses in some scenes.
00:45:58
Speaker
she There's like a weird anarchic spirit to her. It's almost like friendly Joker vibes. She's like a crazy character. She's got that trickster spirit in there. Yeah, yeah. yeah it's but Every time I've watched this movie, which is most as a kid, but like a couple times as an adult, including right now, like I'm always just like watching her and just being like, this is such a fun character. She is having the time of her life.
00:46:24
Speaker
It's a very fun performance. I don't know if that character's fun on the page, but she's bringing something to it for sure. Yeah. Well, so then, uh, and out of five stars, how many are you giving Joseph and the amazing technical trip?
00:46:38
Speaker
I mean, it could be nostalgia talking, but like four and a half. Like, I really think this is- Fair enough. Like, it's such a fun- Like, every sequence has something in it I find really fun and funny. It's- To get highfalutin as like a seven-year-old, this is like, oh, not knowing the term, but oh this is Brechtian. This is like breaking the fourth wall. like the one thing in reality the play is like blurred. And that was just so cool to me. And it still is cool to me how it's like, there are no rules to this movie. It's just whatever is funny and interesting to look at is what goes in this very silly, lightweight musical.
00:47:14
Speaker
Yeah. I, I, there's just, it's just like pure, like 80 minutes of just like silly having fun. Like I said, it does, I alluded earlier, it does wear its welcome by the end. This watch, I was like a little like, okay, we've had I get it.
00:47:29
Speaker
um Yeah, I think maybe just watching like a sleepy Sunday morning was like also just maybe part of the energy factor. Yeah, it's gotta be in the mood for sure. Yeah, 80 minutes doesn't stay out its welcome too long. It's quick, it's breezy,
00:47:44
Speaker
It makes the point it wants to make, which is, I guess, sibling pranks are fun. There's not much weight to this story. But, yeah, I really, it's been such a childhood staple for me, and I still, like, really enjoy it a lot.
00:47:58
Speaker
So, yeah. All right, fair enough. What about what about you, my dev? Where did you wind um I ended up giving this ah four stars. And and i yeah, I think it's probably, um you know, from knowing the show, i think it's a good adaptation of the show. um That's her.
00:48:20
Speaker
Okay. Film stage productions are always tricky. and think the only other one we've done in here was the balcony. and that turned out real weird. Although I also enjoyed that.
00:48:32
Speaker
um But I think this was ultimately a more successful adaptation than Jadet's The Balcony. Okay.
00:48:44
Speaker
Fair enough. How about you, Greg? ah So this was a very strange experience for me to watch, as I think a lot of, for the reasons I talked about with like the film musicals,
00:48:56
Speaker
Um, the, uh, it's interesting to see the, the brassiness on camera. Cause I think it just reads so differently on a stage than it does on a camera.
00:49:07
Speaker
Um, and i like, I know it's for children, but there's like pasties on the costumes and there's definitely like a cutaway to a crotch at some point.
00:49:18
Speaker
So for me, it's like a kind of delicious madness ah that were at times little long to sit through. so I'm going to give it a three.
00:49:29
Speaker
i think you can really get a lot of enjoyment out of it, but you just got to know how much you like musical theater slash how much you can like understand musical theater and get into that and accept music.
00:49:40
Speaker
The fact that some of these things aren't going to translate that way, but the reason they're there is because it is a stage production and you can't pull that out of it. but Fair enough. I landed on two and a half.
00:49:52
Speaker
Okay. I felt that it was at times
Casting Trends in Musical Films
00:49:58
Speaker
very interesting and i really liked that Egyptian billionaire sequence. I thought that looked great.
00:50:07
Speaker
but the rest of it never really hit home for me. i didn't find myself falling in love with any of the songs at, at best. I found myself not falling in love at worst. I found them aggressively unpleasant.
00:50:22
Speaker
Like I was in a casino and all the jackpots were going off at once.
00:50:29
Speaker
That's great. that's you know i just felt overstimulated by this movie. And like that interstitial music that was just so sort of formless, and I never knew when it was going to end.
00:50:42
Speaker
And it just like I felt like if I was prone to migraines, it would have given me a migraine. If someone edited this down to 15 minutes. And it's a shame because I do not blame the actress that was playing the narrator at all.
00:50:56
Speaker
I do agree with you, Kev. I do think that she did a great job, but I think that just the songs as written were just so far out of my wheelhouse and not for me that I couldn't get over the hump for this one personally.
00:51:11
Speaker
Oh, that totally makes sense. Thank you. I'm glad we could at least ah find common ground somewhere. But ah with that said, Greg... You'll be doing our game, but first, we've got our segment, and that's being done by my wonderful wife.
00:51:27
Speaker
And they're going talking about trends in film.
00:51:48
Speaker
Trends in film, they do happen. Trends in film. Trends in film, that's the segment.
00:51:59
Speaker
Trends in film.
00:52:12
Speaker
All right. The trend in film I'm going to talk about is ah pop stars and film Broadway adaptations. Nice. This happens on the big screen from time to time.
00:52:25
Speaker
ah For instance, in 1978, we have, of course, Olivia Newton-John in Chris's least favorite musical, Grease. It is my least favorite musical. Yeah, we have Diana Ross and Michael Jackson in The Wiz, also in 1978. That's a very fun musical.
00:52:44
Speaker
um We have Brandy in Cinderella on TV in 1997. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:52:50
Speaker
only tifa was in Chicago in 2002. um Much later, there's a big gap in here. It's so, it's, sorry, it's always so interesting when I research these trends because they really are, like, cyclical. You'll find they'll leave these big gaps between,
00:53:11
Speaker
um between instances. so here we have, you know, I have Queen Latifah in Chicago, and then i don't really have anything until, you know, obviously we have Ms. Taylor Swift in Cats.
00:53:27
Speaker
Salute. Yeah, of course we had Ariana Grande in Wicked, although I didn't know that she started on Broadway, so this is... I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. She started on Broadway as a teenager and then went to Disney. um So she's kind of a pop slash Broadway star.
00:53:47
Speaker
um And then I guess next year, ahru ah ah version of the kiss of the spider woman musical is coming out with Jennifer Lopez in the title of role. so Okay.
00:53:59
Speaker
I like JLo. Yeah, but I'm interested in mini trend. okay And that's what of live musicals on TV.
00:54:11
Speaker
which Kevin mentioned, the JCS. um And the reason this came about was, you know, in the early 2010s, network execs were trying to come up with ways to make people watch live TV.
00:54:27
Speaker
And ah at NBC, NBC was the first one to do this. um They went back to it after it was the first time they had aired a live musical in 50 years. oh wow December 5th, 2013, Carrie Underwood starred as Maria in The Sound of Music.
00:54:48
Speaker
It was a big... I read a hilarious paragraph about the sponsorship with Walmart, where there was a series of Walmart ads featuring you know families enjoying Walmart products while...
00:55:05
Speaker
um songs from the musical played in the background and every ad would play at the commercial break after the song featured in the musical. so so that sounds great.
00:55:20
Speaker
um But it was it was a ah big success for NBC. 18 million live viewers, which was the most for a Thursday night entertainment program since the series finale of Frasier in 2004.
00:55:34
Speaker
How about that? Yeah. So the producers, Craig Zidane and Neil Marone, apologies if I'm pronouncing their names last names wrong, um they went on to produce.
00:55:49
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ah The next year, they did a Peter Pan live that didn't have any pop stars. It had Alison Williams in the title role and Christopher Walken as Hook.
00:56:01
Speaker
Oh, okay. I think I remember that. I watched it. It was insane. sounds wild. i did i Honestly, this is another where like I didn't know about most of these.
00:56:11
Speaker
um There was a Wiz Live in 2015 that had um featured Neo, Mary J. Blige, Queen Latifah again. she was um She was the wizard.
00:56:27
Speaker
not Oh, yeah yeah. Something like that. And Common was also in that one. We had the JCS in what year was that? That was in 2018. Jesus Christ Superstar to the uninitiated.
00:56:45
Speaker
With John Legend as Jesus, Alice Cooper as Herod, and ah Sarah Bareilles as Mary Magdalene. The roles they were born to play.
00:56:57
Speaker
But so NBC had started doing these, right? And then Fox and Paramount Television partnered in 2016 to do a live version of Grease with um Vanessa Hudgens as Rizzo and Carly Rae Jepsen as Frenchie.
00:57:17
Speaker
And that ah got 12 million live viewers and won five Emmys. wow okay so So that was good for them. and And that same, I don't know if it was all the same team like it was at NBC, but they did um ah Christmas story live in 2017 and um a version of Rent in 2019.
00:57:41
Speaker
um The producers, i died there were these two the two producers who originally produced Sound of Music live One of them died in 2018.
00:57:53
Speaker
And the second though, he did produce Annie Live, which was the last of these in 2021 that had Harry Connick Jr. as Daddy Warbucks and Nicole Scherzinger of the Pussycat Dolls as his chief of staff, his secretary.
00:58:18
Speaker
And it did get good reviews, but by this time it only got 5 million viewers. And that was just, you know, it just kind of, the trend was over. Yeah.
00:58:28
Speaker
People at that point realized no one was going to die on live TV. And so they stopped tuning in. Yeah.
00:58:37
Speaker
Yeah. well very fascinating stuff. My dove is that, uh, do you have more? Are you done? I'm done. Awesome. Then let's play a game.
Fun and Games with Music Videos
00:58:50
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Greg's going to play a little two out of three are real.
00:58:57
Speaker
He's this guy. He's that guy. But there ain't no way he ever played the third guy.
00:59:09
Speaker
I know how you feel.
00:59:14
Speaker
But two out of three are real I said I know how you feel But two out of three are real Maybe talk all night
00:59:37
Speaker
But now it's time for the segment
00:59:45
Speaker
All right, everybody, we're going to play two out of three are real. These are for the music videos of was David Mallet. Is that how you pronounced it? That's how I pronounced it I kept saying David Mallet, so I may go back and forth. We'll see what happens. I may never say it again. Who knows?
01:00:02
Speaker
But what I'm going to do is I'm going to list the year, the artist, and the song. I'm going to list three of those, and then you're going to buzz in and tell me which one of those you think David Mallet did not direct.
01:00:15
Speaker
Okay. And this is a buzz in game. So we buzz in by saying our names and then I will call out whoever I hear first. Are we ready? Yes. All right. So question number one, 1982, Billy Idol, White Wedding, Sharky, Looking Back. Kev. Yes. Kev.
01:00:34
Speaker
joan jet french song nineteen eighty five fear goal sharkey looking back yeah chris ke I'm going to say the Joan Jett one isn't real.
01:00:49
Speaker
That is not correct. We have a chance to steal. Anna or Chris? Chris. Chris. What was the last one? Feargoal Sharky Looking Back.
01:01:02
Speaker
I'm going to say Feargoal Sharky Looking Back. You are correct. Oh, I'm on the board. You've done it. I realize now i I have to keep track of who's got the points. so this I can do that for you.
01:01:17
Speaker
Perfect. I love that even more. All right. So question number two. 1983, Rick Springfield, Human Touch. 1985, Freddie Mercury, Made in Heaven. 1995, Tina Turner, Proud Anna.
01:01:31
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ninety ninety five tina turner proud mary
01:01:37
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and Anna. ah Freddie Mercury. That is incorrect. Chris or Kev, do we have a steal? Kev. Yes, go ahead, Kevin. I think the Rick Springfield one.
01:01:51
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That is correct.
01:01:54
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All right. This is heating up. Question number three. $19.99 share, all or nothing. 1982 haircut 100 love plus one 1987 vendetta having me wanting you and wanting you is in parentheses
01:02:17
Speaker
chris chris Vendetta having me wanting you. Yes. And I made that one up. It's the first one that I made up. Oh, no, it's actually the second one. It's the second one that I've made up, but I just like that one too much. And I was like, Chris is going to know that was me.
01:02:32
Speaker
But anyway, we're going to on. It's beautiful title. Thank you very much. It went through a couple of iterations, and I'm glad on what I landed. ah Question number four.
01:02:44
Speaker
1982 Joan Jett, Crimson and Clover. 1982 Brandywine on the Shore. 1982 Toya, Brave New World.
01:02:56
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Anna. Anna. Crimson and Clover. That is incorrect. Kev or Chris, do we have a steal?
01:03:06
Speaker
Chris. Chris, go right ahead. Brandywine on the Shore. That's correct. Oh my God, I'm on a hard streak. I'm going to tell you the Toya. I didn't watch a lot of these, but I did check out the Toya one because I was like, who is who is this?
01:03:22
Speaker
That is a strange, is an interesting video. They have somehow made her hair make her look like she's got like... merfolk gills behind it's really interesting check it okay so there's a lot of this guy did good work and as i was doing this there was i forget where where i found the quote but someone's like when you're in the hands like when david malay is doing it you're doing great like it was just like he's done so many videos we were we knew we were in good hands it's like yeah his reputation preceded him So question number five, 1991, erasure chorus, 1983, Olivia Newton, John and John Travolta take a chance. 1988, Billy Ocean, get out of my dreams, get into my car.
01:04:10
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Tough. Chris. I think it was Chris. Billy Ocean, get out of my dreams and into my car. That's correct. Oh, my God. you're you What is it, four to one at this point?
01:04:22
Speaker
Yeah, I did not think that. I would that was i thought it was a long shot. I mean, i did I did research some of this for my filmography. So that probably did help. ah So question number six.
01:04:34
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1995, ACDC, cover you in oil. 1996, Def Leppard slang. 1999, Scorpions to number one. ninety ninety six dev leopard slang ninety ninety nine scorpions to be number one yeah yeah Cover you in oil.
01:04:52
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That is incorrect. Wow. Yep. I was so sure it was cover you in oil. Nope. The scorpions.
01:05:05
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ah That is incorrect. That is incorrect. ah So I guess nobody gets, guy or we can give it to you, Chris, at this point? where It's Def Leppard's slang.
01:05:18
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Oh, okay. No, I did. My headphones fell off and I was going to say scorpion. So I wouldn't feel right about taking that. All right, perfect. So we're going to let that one float. We're still four to one. There's still a chance to tie.
01:05:29
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everybody's not everybody's in this, but some people are question. Number seven, 1985 sting. If you love somebody, set them three, set them free. 1985 kiss. Who wants be lonely? 1985 fear goal. Sharky, good heart.
01:05:44
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nineteen eighty five fearal sharkey a good heart yeah Kev, go ahead. The Kiss song, Who Wants to be Lonely. No, that is incorrect.
01:05:55
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It's a real song, oh my god. That's right, Anna and Chris. Chris. Chris. I don't even think Fear Goal Sharky is a real thing. I think you made Fear Goal Sharky up.
01:06:08
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There's a reason I picked that person, and that's because he is definitely real, and that is certainly a video directed by David Millay. It was the Sting song, unfortunately. So now we are to question number eight.
01:06:21
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Yeah, so he he did a lot of things you know and then things you do not know by a lot of people you know. ah Question number eight. 1992, Out There, Gonna Get You Back. 1987, Wasp, I Don't Need No Doctor and Wasp has periods after every letter. 1998, Janet Jackson, Anna.
01:06:42
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janet jackson you
01:06:47
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anna Anna. Janet Jackson. That is incorrect. yeah chris Kev. Yeah, Kev, go ahead. i don't need no doctor.
01:06:59
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No, that is incorrect. It was out there going to get you back, which is one that I invented myself. So i feel pretty solid about that. Oh, yeah. All right. So this is the last one.
01:07:10
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Question number nine. And these are our live shows. So he did like long format videos and live shows as well. I didn't do any of the long format stuff. So here we go. 2001 Cirque du Soleil Drelion.
01:07:28
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1998, U2, Pop Mart, live from Mexico City. 2003, Josh Groban, the closer to her. Chris.
01:07:39
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Chris. Cirque du Soleil, Drelion. That is incorrect. There's no way I could have made that. with or yeah Anna or Kev?
01:07:51
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Kev. Kev. I'll say the Josh Groban one because the one also sounds too crazy made up. So Josh Groban. ah Josh Groban is correct. You got the point. I may actually own the you two one, oddly enough.
01:08:06
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You're a big fan of U2 in that I was at one point, yes. Well, I hate to be the scorekeeper, the buzzer operator, and the winner, but that seems to be what's happened. Congratulations to me.
01:08:20
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Yeah, good job. Chris, right Chris, Chris. Chris, thank you everybody for playing. You're all winners in my book. Thank you for hosting, Greg. We certainly are. Well, do you guys want to give out some Batty Awards?
Closing and Batty Awards
01:08:33
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Please.
01:08:42
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Now you're messing with me. Now you're messing with the Batty Awards. Now you're messing with the Batty Awards.
01:08:53
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Now you're messing with the Batty Awards.
01:08:58
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Congratulations to all the nominees.
01:09:07
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That's right. Congratulations to all our nominees. Congratulations to you, listeners. You've made it to the Batty Awards. The only award show given out by us.
01:09:20
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Hooray. yeah we we do it. ah I'll kick us off this week. I so rarely kick us off. And I'm going to give my Batty Award to monochromatic triangles.
01:09:34
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What a wonderful shape. Went, you know, the the first... 45 minutes, half hour of this movie were so maximalist and so overstimulating.
01:09:45
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To go to this like absolutely minimalist set design was like just such a relief for my senses. It was so welcome. Those monochromatic triangles were real lifesavers. So shout out to you, monochromatic triangles.
01:10:02
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Who wants to go next? I can go. Please, Greg. All right. So I'm going to give my award to my favorite character slash costume, because it's such a small part that I i don't I don't know which of the two it is I like more. It's the butler.
01:10:18
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um And when I say favorite costume, I feel like people at at home haven't seen this are thinking like, ah does he just like is it a suit? You don't know what this man looks like. It would be hard for me to describe it.
01:10:30
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it is hard for me to fathom why anyone chose to make all of these choices together, but also to applaud it. So thank you very much, Butler slash costumer of the Butler. All right. How about you, Anna? Do you have a Batty Award?
01:10:47
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um Yes, I have a sentimental Batty Award my high school drama teacher, ah Mr. Derek Grunewald. popularly known as Mr. G. Yeah,
01:11:00
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yeah it was a good guy. As far as I know, he's still teaching there. he did. who wow ah Kev, I know you're a big fan of the Spielberg West Side Story.
01:11:11
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yeah ah The actor who plays anybody is a graduate of the same high school as as that's me. Amazing. They're so great. Yeah, they were in plays directed by by this same that's amazing the same director. yeah yeah Well, congratulations, Mr. G. Your Batty Award is in the mail.
01:11:34
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Kev, do you have a Batty Award? Yes, I'm going to give a Batty Award to both the person credited as Apache Dancer, who did the big... dance number in the sad French song as well as probably has some other featured dance parts in it because great dancing and also the camera operator who did not make the same mistake that people who directed Les Mis movie made and actually had the camera at a respectful wide shot distance we could see the dancing in this movie.
01:12:01
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like yeah Like a lot of modern musicals, like get a closeup. So you can't see what anyone's doing this. Yeah. That's just didn't bring up was like, yeah, it's, it's like, you really get the choreography in this. You really get like, it it does feel stagey. Yes. As we discussed, but man, you, you see it and that's better than nothing.
01:12:18
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Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for coming this week, Kev. It's been great to see you. Great to hang out. Yeah. Great to talk about ah this overstimulating movie.
01:12:29
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Yeah. Kev, I know you've got a lot going on. Do you have anything that you want to plug? Yes. You can follow me on Blue Sky at maxreboesroady.bsky.social.
01:12:41
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um I have three podcasts, soon to be two. My podcast, Talking Trek to You, where I've talked about the first two seasons of Star Trek. It has three episodes left before season two. We finished that, and then i am sunsetting it probably for good, because I have a lot going on in my life right now. Yeah.
01:12:59
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And yeah, um what's still going strong is Total Massacre, the movie podcast I do with Rowan Kaiser, where we talk about whatever movie she wants to talk about. We've talked about a lot sci-fi movies and action movies and the podcast's history.
01:13:11
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and we're going to be transitioning into talking about more teen movies, mixing it up with the sci-fi movies, because that's just what she wants, and it's her podcast, and I am just help her out. Not to diminish my role, it's a great time.
01:13:22
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um And then I have the podcast Tasting Menu with my friends John and MB, where we every week we just we start half the episode as us talking about current pop culture news and what we're watching, and the second half is us bringing to the fore a piece of pop culture, usually TV shows, like a random episode from the middle of something that at least one of us has not seen. Okay.
01:13:45
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I made my friend John watch Far State for the first time, he made us watch Red Dwarf for the first time, and then, yeah, so things like that. MB made you watch Supernatural? Yeah, we did a Supernatural episode a few times That was really fun. I'd never seen that before.
01:14:03
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yeah
01:14:07
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Well, that sounds really awesome. Listeners, you know, you want to check that out. You know what else you want to do? Listeners. You want to listen to me. Give my usual end of show spiel.
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01:14:51
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And come back next week when we'll be talking about our first Neil Breen movie. yeah We'll be doing Twisted Pair with ah Grant. No last name given. I'm to have to track that down. It's Lavron. It's Lavron.
01:15:06
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It's Grant Lavron. So everybody come back when we'll be talking about twisted pair with Grant Lavron. And, uh, you can find a link to all our socials in the show notes.
01:15:19
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01:15:33
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Goodbye. Goodbye.
01:15:37
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I look handsome, I look smart, I am a walk-in work of art. Such a dazzling coat of many colors, how I love my coat of many colors.
01:15:50
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It was red and yellow and green and brown and scarlet and black and Blue! and
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rusted and break and purple and white and pink and