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Episode 39: All Monsters Attack featuring Erin Finnegan
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Chris and Greg are joined by Erin Finnegan to talk about the Godzilla meta-movie, All Monsters Attack! The Big G takes on all your favorite Z-list monsters with the help of his son Minilla and a little boy who may be dreaming up the whole thing to grapple with Japan becoming an industrial hellscape filled with bullies and kidnappers! It's kaiju fun for all ages from Ishiro Honda, the director of the original Godzilla, and even though it was a flop at the time, we still love it. Tune in!
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Transcript
Hosts Introduction
00:00:39
Speaker
Hello, hello, hello, and welcome to your favorite bad movie podcast. The only podcast that's brave enough to ask the question, this movie's so bad, why do you like it so much? We're your hosts. My name is Chris Anderson. With me as always, I have the Ichiro to my mini-law, Mr. Greg Bossi. Yes, I get to be Ichiro. Hello. Nice to see you. You know you're the Ichiro. Yeah, I really like the Ichiro quite a bit, actually.
00:01:08
Speaker
yeah He was a great character.
Guest Introduction: Erin Finnegan
00:01:10
Speaker
Unfortunately, Anna is not here this week. Out with a migraine. You know how it goes, listener. You probably get migraines. they yeah Big thumbs down. ah But we have a very special guest with us who gets the big thumbs up. And that is my old friend, your new friend, or possibly old friend, if you know her too, it's Erin Finnegan.
Discussion on 'All Monsters Attack'
00:01:31
Speaker
Hi, everyone.
00:01:34
Speaker
Aaron, you chose our movie this week. I did. You chose All Monsters Attack. Right. Not to be confused with Godzilla, All Monsters Attack or All Out Monsters. There's like another, couple there's another one with a really similar title. but The one that immediately precedes this is Destroy All Monsters. That's also extremely similar in a way. yeah I was not aware of this film at all. I don't think I'd ever seen it until my youngest son, Tristan, got really into Godzilla because my mom is into Godzilla and she had all these like Godzilla toys on her desk at work and then she retired and she scooped them all off her desk and she put them to the bin, took them home. And so when we've gone to her house to visit with Tristan, Tristan dumps out the bin of Godzilla, so he thinks Godzilla is amazing. So now we've gotten him into Godzilla at a really young age.
00:02:23
Speaker
And one of the things we got for him was this like coffee table book that has all the Godzilla films up to about 2019, I want to say. okay And one of the entries is for this film, which the director, and we'll probably get to that later. And I meant to have the book on hand. I don't. I can't find it now. But the director mentions how horrifically low budget it was, but how it's actually one of his favorites to have ever worked on in the franchise, because it was like working on a small indie film. um And after I read that, I was like, oh, let's watch that. And then, yeah, then I watched it. I was like, this is barely a film. But yeah.
00:02:59
Speaker
But it's pretty fun to watch. I actually thought, like I think that the opening sequence that we'll get into, uh, is really affecting. And then this this last 20 minutes is actually home alone, but we'll, we'll get to that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought the same thing too. Yeah. Well, listeners, if you haven't seen all monsters attack and it's a breezy 70 minutes, so I strongly recommend just tracking it down. It's almost definitely going to take less time to watch it than it will to listen to this episode.
00:03:27
Speaker
and you'll get coverage of other Godzilla films in the mix. um we It's on HBO Max right now, and that's if you have a subscription that it's free. But I've got a brief short summary that I can read so you can just hold that in your mind. Absolutely.
Plot Summary of 'All Monsters Attack'
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Speaker
A young boy named Ichiro is hassled by both bullies and bank robbers. But he learns to stand up for himself by pretending he is on Monster Island hanging out with Godzilla's son, Minnie Law. I him Minnie Godzilla. I was wondering about this. Minnie Law. Minnie Law. Minnie Law. I would call him Minnie. Because that's like me cause he's Minnie Godzilla. He's Minnie Law. Minnie Law? No, no, no. Yeah, that's how they pronounce it. jilo Godzilla. Godzilla. Minnie Law.
00:04:25
Speaker
He has other names in other films that I don't. Interesting. I've heard. Yeah. There was another property where Godzilla had a kid named Gadzuki, but that might've been an animated series. That's the Hanna-Barbera 70s one. It's a fun name. I don't know. Is Gadzuki his son though? I don't know. He's a little Godzilla. American production. here So Aaron, we got your context for this one. Greg, what's your what's your background with this? What's your background with the big G?
00:04:55
Speaker
So, yeah, so I had no idea what this was until I watched it now. I think I had seen some screen captures of it, or at least I had seen pictures of Manila, Manila. And so just like, oh, it's it's that ah what I remember Godzilla, though, is like, I think there was a Godzilla movie in the 80s.
00:05:21
Speaker
um and I remember seeing a trailer as a child and being like hell yeah Godzilla is awesome and Then we rented like an old Godzilla movie because it couldn't get that one yet And I just remember not being that interested in the movie itself I think possibly because I was like seven or something and it was a lot of talking and like And it was just like, where's the big dinosaur creature? ah But like, I always remember in my head, it's like, I love Godzilla. It's like, Greg, you don't really interact with Godzilla.
00:05:53
Speaker
kind of generally, but in my head, I'm i just like, hell yeah, Godzilla, because of that one moment from childhood. Where you just loved the idea of Godzilla. Yeah, yeah, yeah. where I was just like, I was just like, I'm into Godzilla. It's like, I think you'd like Godzilla. I don't think you're opposed to him and probably would like him if you engage with him, but you haven't really explored it a lot. But I did see I did take a friend to see a sneak preview of the Roland Emmerich Godzilla when that came out and felt pretty special about myself. Got a little cell from the film that they were handing out to everybody. um which Wait, which one is that? The one from the 90s with Matthew Broderick. OK, the 1998 one. Yeah, yeah. That's like really frowned upon. Not great. I know it's bad. I i didn't like it. No, I don't know anybody that liked it. I watched it again recently. It was just like, man, this is this is pretty bad. ah Yeah.
00:06:45
Speaker
So that's that's my that's my background with with the big G. I was never
Ishiro Honda's Career and Film's Production
00:06:51
Speaker
a big Kaiju guy. I remember I liked the gamma episodes of MST 3K when I was a teen. And that was probably the most Kaiju stuff I had ever actively engaged with. you know I i so also saw the Roland Emmerich and was underwhelmed.
00:07:08
Speaker
Sure. But I did for my research check out a couple of other Godzilla movies this week. A couple other ones directed by the same director of this one, Ishiro Honda. ah He directed the original Godzilla. Okay, nice. And I also checked out ah Godzilla versus Mothra because I always liked the look of Mothra. I love the idea of a giant moth that's evil.
00:07:31
Speaker
She's not always evil. No, it's true. She loves ah her island, infant island. And sometimes she, in a lot of the movies, she defends birth. uh, sets and teams up with God's own, but yeah, these alliances change. It's true. it It's a lot like a long running manga that way. I feel like we're, yeah, ah somebody becomes friends. They come into the fold. Somebody betrays somebody they're on the outs for an arc reading the giant, uh, the coffee table book. I mean, it's not a coffee table. but It's like just a big encyclopedia kind of book. Um, half of the film's entries start off saying like that the entire franchise, like the continuity resets.
00:08:08
Speaker
But there's a lot of them where there'll be a string of films that are continuous. So like, I think this one comes at the end of some of them where ay it is a continuous continuity where there's a movie that's like Godzilla and there's a son of Godzilla and then some other ones where they are linked together before people start resetting the franchise.
00:08:29
Speaker
yeah I think <unk> I read that ah Destroy All Monsters, the previous one, was supposed to be the last one. Yeah. and yeah There's also a series of them in the around this time period where each entry in the book ends with sort of like, everyone thought this would be the last Godzilla movie ever. And it wasn't. Another one came out the next year. There's one year that has two Godzilla movies in it. And I think that's one of the worst ones. It's like one of the MST 3K ones. There's like two of the 70s that are post this film.
00:08:58
Speaker
but Well, it sounds like we're already kind of getting contextual. Do you guys want me to play the context? Yeah, do it. Do the bumper. Yeah, you can. Did you notice that I said bumpster? I didn't actually, but I did now. You should start calling that. Maybe I will. Yeah.
00:09:55
Speaker
So All Monsters Attack was directed by Ishiro Honda. It was released in Japan on December 20th, 1969, and in the States in 1971 in a double bill with a movie called Night of the Big Heat. Interesting. I i meant to track down, but I didn't. It was like a Christopher Lee Peter Cushing movie. Okay. That's weird. What? Crazy. Yeah.
00:10:22
Speaker
Now, all monsters attack was the 10th entry in the Godzilla franchise and is considered by many to be the worst they ever made. Sure. There are to date 40 films in the Godzilla franchise. If you count the American entries, 33, if you only count the Japanese. It is, if what I've read is accurate, the longest running film franchise in history. That would make sense. Yeah.
00:10:49
Speaker
I can't think of anything going back to before the original Godzilla. Ishiro Honda was born in 1911, the son of a Buddhist monk. He loved film as a boy and was accepted to one of Japan's first film schools at Nihon University in 1931. He worked briefly at a sort of proto movie studio called Photographic Chemical Laboratories but before being drafted in 1934.
00:11:20
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This little chick's hat. Yes. All of this happened according to Wikipedia. He served in the army for three tours, spending six years at the front. Highlights from his military career include managing a comfort station, which was a brothel for soldiers serving in China. Okay. But he was apparently well liked by his employees. I don't know. There's a bad history of comfort when I know he didn't want to know. No, no, I doubt this is something he bragged about, although he apparently wrote about it in a Japanese film magazine. He was also captured by the Chinese and befriended the monks in the town where he was imprisoned. All right.
00:12:01
Speaker
After the war, locals invited him to stay, ah but he wanted to return to his wife and newborn daughter. That makes sense. Yeah, understandable. I'd much rather not stay in this Chinese prison if that's all right. ah The locals did send him off with a rubbing of Chinese proverbs taken from a stone carving in a local temple, and he would write these verses on the back of his screenplays throughout his career. oh so nice yeah I guess his time being a prisoner of war was complicated.
00:12:30
Speaker
So
Cultural Context and Themes
00:12:31
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possibly fun. Now, by the time Honda finished his tour of duty, photographic chemical laboratories had rebranded as Toho, the famous Japanese films. It's a good choice in their part, I feel like. Yeah, it's so much more punchy. Can I talk about Toho for a second? Please. From the book that I read.
00:12:54
Speaker
The one great set piece that appears in a lot of Godzilla films is something that's at Toho Studios, where they had this tremendous like lake that they built with like a mountain scene behind it at a pretty large scale. But the reason they built it was so they could film a World War II movie that had a Navy fight with like planes and stuff. And then that film, ah it wrapped, but they still had this big lake on their studio a lot. And so in almost every Godzilla film from that time period, or even, I don't know, more recently,
00:13:24
Speaker
maybe not the most recently, i they would use this lake for scenes and the same kind of like mountainous backdrop and the same air rigs for the monsters. Cool. That does give the franchise a consistent look and feel to it across. For a couple of decades, yeah. Let's see. So he was working as an assistant director, which let him work his way up to becoming a documentary director. And from there, he got to move on to making fictional feature films of his own.
00:13:53
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ah During that apprentice era, he was able to work with his good friend Akira Kurosawa and served as the second unit director on Stray Dog. From Kurosawa to his film. It's a long way.
00:14:08
Speaker
ah In 1951, he got to direct his first feature, the blue pearl, which was a pearl diving picture, a fairly popular genre in Japan, mostly about beautiful skin divers. Yeah, and they can they, they, ah they dive, naked like with their top half naked, and then they can hold their breath for like two minutes or something absurd. Yeah, wow. Yeah, it's a thing. Yeah. And they live on like the southern coast of Japan. It's a traditional means of pearl harvest. super Okay.
00:14:37
Speaker
in Japan. And after he had a couple more pictures under his belt, he got his big break. In 1954 he directed Godzilla, changing Japanese cinema and indeed the world.
00:14:52
Speaker
Godzilla launched the Kaiju genre. It was considered the first sort of proper Kaiju film. I found an older one from 1934. Well, I'll talk about that one later. Okay. Uh, because it's going to come up in our Kaiju quiz. That's right. Everybody stick around for the game section. Nice.
00:15:13
Speaker
Yeah. He launched the kaiju genre and he also earned two nominations at the Japanese movie awards, winning best special effects, but losing best picture to seven samurai. Oh snap. no'm ki wow obviously Yeah. but I'm sure he was happy for his old friend Akira Kurosawa, but it's funny to think of these being the two things that you could go see in theaters that year. yeah What a great year for Japanese cinema. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:39
Speaker
Now, ah he rarely worked in kaiju films for the rest of the 50s before returning to the genre in earnest in the 60s. He directed Mothra versus Godzilla, Ghidorah the Three-Headed Monster, Invasion of Astra Monster, and All Monsters Attack. Oh, Hidorah the Smog Monster is what it's usually called. Okay. Because he doesn't have three heads. Oh, Ghidorah is, yeah. Ghidorah. Okay. Smog Monsters later. Sorry, this is 70s.
00:16:07
Speaker
That seems more of 70s. Yeah, it's very 70s. I would recommend it. Definitely watch the door next, Greg. All right. It's amazing. Now, at this point, Toho had been in negotiations with the cartoon company Filmation to make a Godzilla animated series for children. That fell through, but Toho was still in a sort of kid-friendly state of mind.
00:16:35
Speaker
So that's how they came to all monsters attack. And especially since ah the last movie was hypothetically supposed to be the last in a Godzilla arc, you know, it sort of let them give it a fresh take, a fresh coat of paint and a new perspective. ah Production began in October and the film was released on December 20th. So this one had a tight turnaround and that shows. Yeah. Yeah. It comes through loud and quick.
00:17:05
Speaker
ah To save time and money, they used footage from the films Ibarra, Horror of the Deep, Son of Godzilla, King Kong Escapes, and the previous years Destroy All Monsters. So it's kind of like a clip show. They really stretched things out that way. That makes a lot of sense. To the point that we're like only a few of the fights in this film are like shot for this film. Yeah. That also makes sense. There's a lot of B-roll. Yeah.
00:17:29
Speaker
ah With Children being the target audience for the film, they brought back Minilov from Son of Godzilla and wrote a storyline where he would get bullied by the monster Gabbara. While the film is largely considered to be the worst by many Godzilla fans, Honda described it as one of his favorites, like Aaron said. Other sci-fi films of 1969, just to put a thing in his place.
00:17:54
Speaker
okay If you were a sci-fi fan, you could also go see The Computer War Tennis Shoes, starring a young Kurt Russell. How about that? Sixty-nine. Yeah. He's he's been working for a minute. You got Frankenstein Must Be Destroyed. You've got The Illustrated Man, starring Rod Steiger as a guy with magic tattoos. I don't know that one. I don't know any of these. Well, maybe, you know, Gamora versus Guiron.
00:18:25
Speaker
We run. We run. No, i've so I've only seen a couple of films. I know there's a bunch. ah How about have you seen Stereo, David k Cronenberg's debut film, Stereo? Yeah, I think I have seen that one. If not, it's on it's on a DVD. I have somewhere to intend to watch it, so. yeah And last but not least, you've got the Valley of Guangi. You guys ever see the Valley of Guangi? No. What country is it from?
00:18:54
Speaker
That's from America. It's a stop motion picture with Cowboys versus dinosaurs. I got really drunk watching that sophomore year of college. Yeah,
00:19:05
Speaker
yeah I recommend it. And that comes to the end of the context section. Do you guys have any other context? Do you want to get into plot? Erin, you're so knowledgeable. I don't want to cut you off. Yeah, no, I guess the other context that kind of plays into the first part of the plot actually is for a good sort of transition where, um,
00:19:23
Speaker
So at this period in Japan's history, like, cause I mean, we growing up in the eighties and nineties, think a lot about like the Japanese economic boom. And if you, uh, are a millennial or gen X, or you think of like, uh, Japan technology as being the best or Nintendo's coming from Japan and it's this sort of, uh, great, great economic boom. Or in, uh, the nineties where, what is it like the rising sun or the Sean Connery movie where people were in the upgrade of Japan yeah is their industry being or even a gung ho still in the late 80s. Yeah, until the bubble burst. Right. But yeah. So in this kind of now we're halfway between and what is the other Godzilla film that came out a year or two ago that got all the Oscars like zero or no. Godzilla minus one. Yeah, Godzilla. So that's like the Godzilla is especially like a postwar period where there's like reconstruction
00:20:16
Speaker
And then we're building up to the 80s and this sits right in the middle in 69 where there's a lot of working class, there's industrial things going on. And I think the film's opening montage is actually really affecting if you don't know it's a Godzilla film or it's just like pollution, trucks, trains, factories, more pollution. Like you get the real feeling of this like industrializing nation.
00:20:42
Speaker
Um, that's not, it's not the high tech glamor and it's very like working class. And yeah, the kids parents are each of his parents as we learned are also extremely like working class parents, right? This is very blue collar. Yeah. And this was like the first generation of like latchkey kids or something that I read the original latchkey kid or whatever. I mean, not exactly, but yeah, he yeah like literally in the script, he's like, I'm a latchkey kid. My parents are home after school.
00:21:11
Speaker
But in the context of Japanese culture, that's also kind of weird, I think. like There's a high pressure, you' not maybe less so today, but generally that time period, I think your mom is expected to be a homemaker. She's supposed to be there taking care of you after school. And so it seems like really irresponsible in the course of the film like that his mom is not, but we'll get to that.
00:21:37
Speaker
Yeah. Well, let's get to it. Let's play the plot bumpster.
00:22:25
Speaker
So we start off with a montage. We've got ah monsters fighting each other. You got but Godzilla fighting assorted monsters. You've got an opening theme song. So they're hitting you up with little monster footage right off the top. This theme song is awesome. i can The theme song is incredible. It's a theme song by the lead actor ah about the film. It's like a TV theme song.
00:22:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's really something good like some of the lyrics are like one of the like I didn't copy down the lyrics themselves But like one of it was like why is it so hard to live on this earth? Yeah, that's a great question. That's a good question opening credits song of the tenth gods of the film. I feel like the theme song of I'm gonna compare to the theme song of Totoro which is actually one of my favorite movies of all time possibly when it's about Totoro right like but it's not Totoro singing the song he can't speak, but I feel like it's gorgeous. No, it's other people singing about how great Totoro is. Whereas this, they're singing about how terrible everything is. Yeah. And then also it does say that pollution is the real monster. Oh, I wrote that down. It's just like, yeah. That's not a metaphor. That's like in the text. No, that's in the lyrics. It's like pollution is the real monster. It's like, okay, sure. Got it. Okay. Yeah. This film is very didactic.
00:23:37
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's it's for kids, so it can be straightforward. They're going to hammer it home a few times. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So then we cut to an industrial Japanese city with large polluting factories and we see two young children, Ichiro and Sachiko. They are both young and adorable. How old do you think these kids are? I'm really bad at estimating ages. I'm very bad at that, too. I think they might have said eight at one point. But why? what did you get Eight seems right. They're not they're not tweens. Yeah.
00:24:08
Speaker
They're still very, very childish. They're not like precocious either. You know what I mean? They're just like kids. Ichiro gets shoved around by a bully named Gebara and his crew, but it's not all bad. He does find a vacuum tube on the ground by the side of the road. He's pretty excited about that. So there's that. He's got a vacuum tube. Sweet. ah We see Ichiro's dad, a train engineer, complained to his coworker that Ichiro's kind of a wimp.
00:24:38
Speaker
His coworker reads in the paper that there's been a 50 million yen robbery. This is gonna be our B-plot. Yeah, it sure is. It keeps coming up. You can't miss it. Now, on his walk home from school, Gabara steals Ichiro's vacuum tube. So actually, everything is terrible for poor Ichiro. Yeah, that Gabara sucks.
00:25:04
Speaker
ah So he gets home and swings by his neighbor's apartment to grab his key so he can get inside. Like we said, he's a latch key kid, but his neighbor is there. His neighbor is Mr. Shinpei and Mr. Shinpei is a toy designer and Mr. Shinpei low key counter rules. I like Mr. Shinpei. He was great. He was great. Yeah. He's just like working on little toy inventions in his house and he's very he's nice to the kid. He's good to the parents. He seems like a good dude.
00:25:33
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He's got a cool beard with no mustache and little, like, Dumbledore glasses.
00:25:41
Speaker
ah Now, he is currently working on a computer for kids, calls it the Kid Computer. Ejira talks to him about his hyper-fixation Monster Island, ah the home of Godzilla, and also his son Minilla, and maybe a dozen other monsters that hate Godzilla and Minilla.
00:26:01
Speaker
Now I have a question yeah as a person who doesn't really know Godzilla that much. Is the island of monsters real? Specifically, with I wrote that down specifically in my note. So yeah, I think in certain continuities and in this particular continuity that comes from like All Monsters Attack, I think in and this film's, in this era's film universe, that Monster Island has become this place where they've put all the kaiju to live and then they put barriers around it of like oh sonic buoys and things to make sure that the monsters can escape. That is not explained in this film.
00:26:36
Speaker
OK, OK, so Monza Island is a is a man made a man, yeah a human, a person designated area where they're shoving all the kaiju and keeping them there to prevent further destruction. It's not where the monsters are from. It's where they go. It's where some of them are from. I think in later films, they it's sometimes called Birth Island because it's where Godzilla is born sometimes. Sure, sure. But not always, depending on the movie. um And so they kind of sequestered him to this island i where they can't escape. But yeah, that's not explained here. But also, in this film, is Godzilla real?
00:27:15
Speaker
Or is Ichiro just a fan of Godzilla movies? No, I think in this world and like in some of the films of this time period, I want to say it's the Showa era because Japanese people are the emperor. I think the Showa Godzilla arc, Godzilla is real in a lot of the continuities, right? um Including like indo in the beginning of Hidora, there's a kid buying a Godzilla action figure and Godzilla is real in that universe, right? Like, so he is like worshipping Godzilla in that way, which comes up later as well.
00:27:45
Speaker
But it's just interesting the way that he talks about it and the way other people talk to him about it. He's like, I'm in the Godzilla. He's in the Godzilla. He's really into this manila character. It's like everyone is reacting like, you know, it's like his imaginary friend. But it is. He is just a real it's just a real. I think in this film, I think this film is its own continuity and that he is just a guy because none of us like there are all these fantasy sequences where we see all the kaiju. We never see any of the kaiju in the reality sequences. All we see is pollution, the real monster. I think that this is a movie about a Godzilla fan and not a movie that takes place within the Godzilla universe. Yeah, I think you can frame it. I think you can. That's a valid interpretation of the film. Okay. Okay.
Ichiro's Adventures and Real-Life Parallels
00:28:30
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I like that. I think also in the certain modern parlance, I'm talking about
00:28:35
Speaker
In modern speech, we would you know we would say he's a kaiju otaku, that he's a big fan of kaiju. So he's talking to kids about like, oh, this one roars like this and this one roars like this. And so it kind of but it predates a lot of like modern fandom like that. That makes sense. But in the world of this film, it that's still weird. like that That is weird. OK. Yeah.
00:28:56
Speaker
Like, you figure if Godzilla was real, he could at least find one other guy that would be willing to talk to him about Godzilla, but nobody seems at all. Yeah, it was just like, it was just like, he's into Godzilla, so he's a child, just run with it. Yeah, just go with it. So, Ichiro goes home, and he watches a little bit of the news. It's about the bank robber, and he has himself a snack, he has one of those sweet breads.
00:29:19
Speaker
And then, back in his room, he pulls out his own kid computer that he's made from scrap parts that he's found at the abandoned electronics factory. And it's so cute. It's enormous. Yeah, it's pretty, it's like made out of cardboard. It's got a little crayon dials on it. Then he's just jamming in vacuum tubes. Come in, Monster Island. Come in, Godzilla.
00:29:39
Speaker
Yeah, he starts talking to the computer and asking it like, where what is the location of Monster Island? And then he sort of drifts off to sleep and he imagines himself flying on Pan Am direct to Monster Island. A direct flight.
00:29:55
Speaker
Yeah, they've got that that's one of the great things about Yeah, yeah straight from Japan Pan American is known for flying from Japan to places So makes if you need a direct flight to Monster Island Pan Am is your airline i mean do these books island technically in the americas Is there Monster Island tourism, I mean I see Monster island is Island off the coast of Japan like they Do they work there? we't We never know it doesn't matter if you're streaming There's probably, you know, you've got to have like a base that's duty is to maintain the perimeter around Monster Island. Then you have a small community that supports it. That does happen in a Monster's attack, but we don't see that in this world. Yeah. Because it's just a child's imagination. It's true. He probably hasn't seen, uh, destroy home monsters. Yeah. It's from his point of view. It's too scary. Now, uh, we finally get some Monster Island action. Our first since the opening credits, we get some Kaiju battle action.
00:30:48
Speaker
We see Godzilla fighting some giant praying mantises called the Kami Kauras. Kami Kauras. Yeah. That's I think that's from Son of Godzilla. Did you write down? Okay. that is That's like a clip from another one. He slams them around and he breathes atomic fire on them. Yeah. Uh, he fights a giant Condor and Manda and Grosaurus and Anguissurus. It's like a quick series of cameos.
00:31:13
Speaker
Yeah, just B-roll from assorted, less successful Godzilla movies, I guess. oh bunchcha Big G takes on all comers, and a stray giant mantid scares Ichiro, and he runs and falls into a deep pit. Someone tosses down a vine to pull Ichiro out, and that someone is none other than Minilla, Godzilla's son.
00:31:38
Speaker
What do you guys think of Minilla? He's terrifying in this film. Yeah, he's a little creepy, but he's also kind of amazing. this He's so creepy. like he's That's just because of his dead-eyed stare, like a doll's eyes. That's true. Son of Godzilla and this film, like Manila is the worst part of either of them. But in this film, I feel like like it's Son of Godzilla and Manila is dragging down the film. And this one, it's some kind it's kind of the opposite. He's bringing it up because it's so weird. He's so weird. And I want to point out, there are very few films where
00:32:10
Speaker
Godzilla monsters can talk or speak English at all. And right there's one where like they roared each other and it's kind of subtitled in in Japanese or English. And there's somewhere like the psychic twins can understand what Godzilla and Mothra are saying and like they'll tell you. yeah but it's not like one-for-one translation and this one no explanation throw down manila's talking to you like yeah because he's your best friend and of course you'd have a conversation yeah and he can also change sizes in this which i'm assuming is not regular mini log cannon also be jimmy
00:32:43
Speaker
yeah know that was his child Yeah. You can be the size of a child or you can be the size of a kaiju, a rather small kaiju, but a kaiju nonetheless. He's man sized, but like, how can we make this work? Doesn't matter. Just throw it in there. Yeah. Just do it. Yeah. Everything's on the table. So, uh, big G is taken on all comers. Okay. Uh, Minilla and Ichiro both speak Japanese and are roughly the same size. So they become fast friends.
00:33:15
Speaker
The good times are short lived, however, as Minilla is also dealing with his own bully, who is also coincidentally named Gabara. Could they be more clear? Yeah, I don't think ah there's any bigger coincidence. Yeah, yeah, probably because that human kid is actually a monster in disguise. That's a different movie. Well, Gabara shows up and he spoils their fun. Back in the real world, Mr. Shinpei gets a call from Ichiro's mom to ask him to keep an eye on each eu row as she has to work late. She didn't pay agrees later. Yeah, she is pulling an all nighter pulling that double shift.
00:33:54
Speaker
No one may argued about like, what is her occupation? And I think she's a waitress at like a really nice a restaurant or like an inn. Cause that's a thing that happens, like a real thing. Yeah. Yeah. I got in vibes. yeah but makes No, I thought she was like a prostitute or something. I'm like, no, she's not dressed like that. Like that's not it. Trust is don't have shifts. It's sort of a free, it's more like an Uber driver situation. yeah Yeah. Cause she's like, one of my coworkers got sick. So I have to work because this is extremely work in class.
00:34:24
Speaker
Yeah. And then, yeah. And then Ichiro says, this happens all the time, which means she's like Japan's worst mom. Yeah. And that's why Ichiro finds himself in all this trouble. Yeah, it is. So Shinpei agrees to keep an eye on Ichiro and then wakes him up. And Ichiro was ah dreaming of his adventures on Monster Island, and he's very upset to have the dreams interrupted. But Shinpei invites Ichiro over for some sukiyaki later.
00:34:54
Speaker
Ichiro agrees, and then he heads out for a little pre-dinner adventure. I like this part where it's like, oh, I got a couple hours till dinner. Guess I'll go explore the abandoned factory nearby. Yeah, they tore down the playground. I feel the devil. Gotta play somewhere. I mean, we're in Spain singing about Osaka or wherever this is. Oh, really? No, no, I'm sure it's Tokyo. I feel like all these take place in Tokyo. I could be Osaka. I don't know.
00:35:19
Speaker
I feel like Osaka is a very industrial town. I remember a guy I knew when I worked at a sushi restaurant described Osaka to me and it made it sound like the Detroit of Japan. It was just like bad times there. Maybe. I'm not sure. I really liked Osaka though when we went. because it was it It might have bounced back since he left. Oh, maybe.
00:35:39
Speaker
so Well, he's out exploring each a row, soon gets scared by some bullies again, and he's able to escape and he returns to his favorite hangout spot, the abandoned electronics factory. He finds some more vacuum tubes, so that's good. And also a really cool pair of old headphones. He's very excited. And he also finds a man's driver's license, which is naturally then it turns out that this driver's license is owned by one of the bank robbers from the B block.
00:36:10
Speaker
and he dropped it while they were hiding in the factory. They quickly realized that this kid could blow everything, so one of them follows him to see if they can snatch him up and silence him. Back at the apartment complex, Ichiro and Mr. Shinpei finished dinner, and Ichiro is excited to go back to sleep so he can get back to ah dreaming about Monster Island.
00:36:36
Speaker
He rushes back to his apartment and instantly falls asleep and dreams of Godzilla fighting more kaiju as Minilla and Ichiro cheer him on. Gebara the Kaiju shows up and starts shit with Minilla. And Minilla tries to fend it off Gebara, but only ends up embarrassing himself. He tries to breathe his atomic fire, but he can only blow smoke rings. He looks like a real jackass.
00:37:01
Speaker
kid Mini-La, yeah, I mean, he's just a kid. this This gabara, he's a real jerk. Yeah. Mini-La just can't figure out how to use his atomic breath, but Big G trains him up and finally gets him to exhale a mighty burst of atomic flames by stepping on his tail.
00:37:21
Speaker
I think that's also from Son of Godzilla. I don't even think that part, like they've kind of cut in Guevara into the scene, but that's totally lifted from the other film as well. Okay. Interesting. I mean, it's a great sequence. I would see why they would bring it back. It's a great moment. Uh, this was the point of film where I started nodding off a little bit, but luckily it's pretty straight. But if I miss anything big, please let me know.
00:37:46
Speaker
Uh, there's like, yeah, I mean, next there's just a sequence of fights that are all taken from other films, right? Like, uh, Godzilla versus Ebera, the giant shrimp monster where they play volleyball with a rock for a while. Yeah. That was interesting. That was interesting. Reminded me a little bit of that boss fight against, uh, Ganon in, uh, that legend of Zelda for the super Nintendo, where he had to hit the orb back at him. You can use either your sword or your net. They were doing that, but with a huge rock.
00:38:11
Speaker
did not play that one. Then there's Godzilla versus Kumunga, who's a giant spider. I think that's also from Son of Godzilla, because he's like wrapping Manila in spiderwebs. And that's the same the the webbing is the same way that Mothra's two larvae were able to take down Godzilla and Godzilla versus Mothra. he loves her Yeah, the Mothra has a lot of web powers as larval Mothra can be very dangerous.
00:38:37
Speaker
Yeah. And then, yeah, Gabbard comes back to Menes, Manila Samore with horrible donkey sound effects. Like, yeah, I hate. Yeah. Weird like breathing. Manila's or yeah, Manila's roar is really unpleasant because it is just a donkey bray. It's awful. Is Gabbara like a classic?
00:38:58
Speaker
no Anybody got any information on Gabbara at all as far as the kaiju go? Gabbara only film appears in this film and even in later films like that's a little Final Wars is from what like 2002 or maybe 2012. That one tries to have like every monster that's in the regular continuity in the film really intentionally. Gabbara is noticeably absent because because it's a child's fantasy from a world where Godzilla doesn't exist. Yeah. And there's some other continuities too, where like, so Bialante, actually a good movie okay by it with a real budget. Oh, right. I didn't describe my sort of axis of
00:39:39
Speaker
but maybe we'll come to that in the review section. I came up with sort of like axis scheme of how one might rate or categorize casual films. And one axis is budget that goes up and down, like that's the y-axis and the x-axis is more like ah sincerity.
00:39:54
Speaker
oh god This film really falls into the low budget, low sincerity, lower quality. Sure, sure. That makes sense. Yeah, that's going to be in your bottom left. yeah violent own continuity citizen isn't lee doest does not appear and final wordss either anyway Now back in reality, Ichiro gets kidnapped by the bank robbers. They drag him back to the warehouse.
00:40:17
Speaker
And each hero calls out to mini law for help before once more falling asleep. This kid loves falling asleep. And that, like, I feel like that's the weirdest part of this film where it's like you've proppers broken into your home where you were asleep alone while your parents are gone, drag you away and you managed to like fall asleep. Yeah. at all This kid might be narcoleptic. Yeah, I'm not sure. He should see a doctor. Yeah. He should after this for sure.
00:40:44
Speaker
But the good news is, back in Dream World, he gets to hang out with Minila again. And Minila's going at it with Gebara. But this time, Minila's able to stand up for himself. He can use his atomic breath. And he also uses a felled tree as a teeter-totter to catapult Gebara into defeat. Ichiro also drops a boulder on Minila's tail, and that's what gets him to breathe fire. He remembers you mash on his tail. That'll do the trick.
00:41:13
Speaker
So Ichiro came up with a plan and triggered the fire attack. So Ichiro's the real hero at this point. Well, it's a tag team. yeah They're greater than the sum of their parts. They worked as a team. That's like Godzilla made him get back in the fight. And there's an awkward scene of Godzilla clapping at one point in this scene. It's pretty good. Yeah, that's not an action Godzilla can do very naturally. No. No. It's a good gift though. But Godzilla does congratulate Minala on his victory. But then Gebara comes back for revenge.
00:41:42
Speaker
But if Gebara was no match for Minnella, he's definitely no match for Godzilla. And Gebara is quickly defeated once again. Yeah, Godzilla beats the hell out of him. You sure then each euro wakes up ready for you wakes up from this dream. The robber wakes him up. He says wake up kid. You're having a bad dream, which is pretty bad when you're like kidnapper has to be like wake up. Yeah. But this was that kidnappers last mistake. This was no bad dream. This dream was getting each row jazzed up. Oh yeah. He's ready to go. He's full of spit.
00:42:17
Speaker
Yeah. So he gives these bank robbers the business, tricking one into falling through a hole in the floor that he covered with newspapers and spraying the other in the face with a fire extinguisher. Mr. Shinpei has shown up with the cops as the thieves previously stole his car when they absconded with Ichiro. It is a beautiful scene when he's just like, this car is interesting to me for some reason. Wait, that's because this is my car.
00:42:44
Speaker
That's classic shin pad. Yeah. It's just this really, and he does it much more effectively than I do. Uh, but just him being like, it's weird that this car is here right now. Why do I know this car? And then it's just like, then he calls the police. He's like, I just found a lot of money in my car.
00:43:00
Speaker
I think they did telephone this earlier in the plot where the cops show up when they're eating dinner and they're like, the robbers around here, they might try and steal a car. When the cops showed up in that scene, they're dressed in car hearts and hard hats. And I'm like, why though? I have no idea. Was there factory cops? I guess. Mr. Shinpuro or whatever. He meets them at a like a street cart bar, like an outdoor bar thing. But then they're in suits, like regular detectives and whatever. kind of yeah And when Shinpuro meets Ichiro, like when he rescues him, gives him a hug, which is like really unusual.
00:43:40
Speaker
in Japanese college, you're like, you don't want to hug people. Even this kid who's been kidnapped, who's like, you his parents aren't around, even kids hugging him is a lot. Well, they have a very special relationship. They do. They should pay an Ichiro. This is, the you know, you get like three hugs in your lifetime. This is one of them. Yeah, I hope so. ah But the thieves give up after these sort of home alone style shenanigans, getting owned by Ichiro. And Ichiro gets to go home a hero.
00:44:07
Speaker
The next day he's walking to school with Sachiko again and gets accosted by the bullies, but this time he fights one of them and he earns their respect. Then he bullies an adult man got painting a sign. He fights his Gabra. Oh, I thought Gabra was the bigger kid.
00:44:25
Speaker
I actually thought this was another kid in the game. No, no, I'm pretty sure it's gaba looks like Gabra. They call him Gabra in the dialogue, though. I'm like, he doesn't look that big. Like, he is taller than each Europe, but he's skinny. So I'm like, he's good bully. Really? I just assumed that the biggest kid was the leader of Gabra's gang, but maybe I was wrong. I don't know. Well, anyway, he fights one of them. Probably Gabra. It would narratively make the most sense. That would. Yeah.
00:44:51
Speaker
But then he also, when he's leaving after successfully fighting that kid, he does a bully an adult man that is painting a sign by the side of the road honking the guy's motorcycle horn, causing him to fall over and spill paint all over himself. That scene is so weird. And as best I can tell, like when we think about like the Japanese motorcycles that do all the honking, there's like, um what is it? Yankee culture or like the motorcycle gang guys who decorate their motorcycles, but this is like years after that a little bit. So I don't know if he's like an early one, so maybe he's like in a weird subculture and the motorcycle horn is supposed to be the giveaway that this guy is a freak and it's okay to make fun of him? Question mark? I don't know. I was weirded out.
00:45:32
Speaker
Yeah. He does bully this adult man and the cycle of violence continues. Yeah. It was disturbed by that little bit. He has his dad cover for him. He's like, dad, this guy's coming after me. But he does apologize. Yeah. that His dad does, but who does that? He was like, no, no, you're sure. Oh, he yells out. He's like, tell him that I'm sorry. What? He does. I remember that. Well, in any case, it's not good enough. The guy's still fucking covered in pain. He's still pissed off. But that's the end of the film. Boom.
00:46:02
Speaker
Congratulations. Now he's the head bully. Yeah, the shoe is on the other foot. I guess the real monster is man. That's right. Who wants to give their final thoughts in five star race?
00:46:18
Speaker
Um, right. Cause you go first. Yeah, go ahead. All right. I'm going to give this one. I gave it, uh, three and a half. I'm going to say three and a half. This seems like a great movie for a four year old, but, uh, I fell asleep, but I bet a four year old would go bananas for this movie because it's got Godzilla and it's got a little kid and he's friends with Godzilla's kid. No.
00:46:43
Speaker
yeah My four-year-old did not like this film. Really? Yeah. The times that I've watched it, he seems to suffer through it. like He's only interested in the fight scenes. I would barely give it two stars, like because it's a fairly movie. It's 65 minutes. It's so didactic, where in his conversations with Minnie Lee, he's like, you're just like me. You're in the same situation. It's like,
00:47:06
Speaker
I'm literally telling you what is happening. You don't have to work to draw a parallel. It's all in the text. There's nothing about it there. You do get a lot of monster action per minute. And so if you're metric for how good a Godzilla film is, is how many Godzilla monsters are in it, it still loses to other Godzilla films. Fair enough. It's still not as good. Tristan would much rather watch Godzilla Final Wars, which I don't like. I hate it. But it has more monsters in it for your buck. OK. All Monsters Attack is also more compelling. There's a higher budget. So the monsters that you get are in different scenes attacking different cities, which is pretty exciting, except for this one. This was All Monsters Attack. No, the one before this one. Destroy All Monsters. Destroy All Monsters. You can see it's confusing.
00:47:57
Speaker
Surrealizer says more things going on and if you want to watch a bad Godzilla movie that's like also spectacular there's one that's um Oh no, what's the title of it? There's the one that has Mecha King Ghidorah in it is like a 90s one with like, there's a time travel plot. Okay. It's so, it's so bad. And it's a little more compelling than this one even so like even when it comes to like low budget, non sincere Godzilla films, you can go lower. like
00:48:29
Speaker
Or I don't know with more effort. Um, but I think if you took the Godzilla parts out, it's slightly compelling as a short film. Okay. Fair enough.
Final Thoughts and Ratings
00:48:41
Speaker
How about you, Greg? Where did you land on? Yeah, I'm going to give this one three and a half stars. I watched this on a Sunday morning with waffles because that felt like the right way to do it. And I would say that that is the right way to do it. Uh, in, I would say that just like waffles.
00:48:57
Speaker
Being a delicious breakfast is probably really only a three and a half star out of five breakfast realistically on the like health scale. You know what I mean? Like this is definitely, this movie's got some problems certainly, but it's a pretty good time. I enjoyed myself. I could see how if you actually like Godzilla movies, you probably wouldn't like this one, but I will say that it did go to see, uh,
00:49:23
Speaker
Godzilla King of the Monsters that came out like four or five years ago and I enjoyed this movie a lot more than that movie. okay seem to It's actually very exciting to hear you say that there are other Godzilla's with more monsters in them because I was like this had more monster fighting with Godzilla in it.
00:49:42
Speaker
then king of all monsters did yeah in the american movie franchise yeah king of all monsters is also not my favorite like uh christian really loves uh the latest godzilla x kong which yeah i should see that one i saw the one before it no it is not like interesting it's it's pretty silly yeah and then oh right the one i was like thinking of before was uh godzilla versus king gedora 1991 there's some of these that you can only watch on i think like the um The Bylante one, you can only watch it on like internet archive because there's music rights issues, um machine but which is really annoying because that's one of the really good ones. But then like, yeah, Godzilla fans are very fierce. So if there are DVD releases of some of these that are good, but sold out or out of print, that you can't get them for hundreds of dollars. But yeah, I would recommend for this show, you guys should watch Godzilla versus King of Dora sometimes, which has a twist that's so ridiculous. I'm excited about that. Oh yeah. Maybe we'll have you back.
00:50:39
Speaker
Also a really unrealistic space station scene. Like nice the whole film doesn't, it's so bad anyway. ah But this one was bad, but short and kind of compelling from a sociology. honest It does have a fantastic runtime. That runtime bumped it up a half star for me.
00:50:56
Speaker
No, generally, I thought it was a pretty good time, if you will, and to just like not have a traditional good time, if that makes sense. Yeah, it's like a Saturday morning cartoon. It's very much. Exactly. And I think yeah like waffles is spot on, like waffles, and like you only have time for one mimosa before the Nighthawks can stop. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Well,
Creative Godzilla Universes
00:51:17
Speaker
it seems like Aaron knows a lot about the cinematic universe of Godzilla.
00:51:22
Speaker
Maybe she can help us expand that cinematic universe in our next segment. Let me hit that bumpster.
00:52:39
Speaker
That's right, we're pitching a cinematic universe Greg and I each have our own pitch. Uh, so I'll start. And then I'm judging them. Is that you are going to let us know which ones you would green in light if you were one of the Godzilla people. Okay. All right. So my pitch is for a film called journey to the center of Godzilla. Okay. Godzilla is back and he's on the rampage.
00:53:08
Speaker
The Japanese Defense Force has a new weapon though, a gravity bomb. The gravity bomb, if swallowed by Big G, will create a small singularity in his stomach, sucking all his mass into a sphere the size of a grapefruit.
00:53:26
Speaker
But what the politicians and generals don't know is that if the gravity bomb does go off inside Godzilla, Big G's internally generated radiation will cause a chain reaction, which will generate a black hole destroying the earth.
00:53:40
Speaker
the bomb will take six hours to reach critical mass. And the only ones that can stop it are Takata, the research assistant to the scientists that invented the bomb, along with his fiance, Iko, her ex-fiancee, American test pilot, Roger Detwiler, and a secret agent known only as X.
00:54:00
Speaker
This ragtag team must fly inside Godzilla's body, navigating all the dangers therein, to find the gravity bomb and neutralize it before Godzilla destroys Tokyo and the bomb destroys the world. Journey to the center of Godzilla. That's pretty good. Thank you.
00:54:18
Speaker
I'm gonna have some notes on that. So Godzilla vs. Megagirrus from 2000 already has like a small black hole device where people are like shooting black holes, anything. So that's been done. Okay. Well, that's just, you know, the MacGuffin. It can be any type of weapon that goes inside Godzilla's body that they need to.
00:54:36
Speaker
um I think traveling inside Godzilla's body is pretty new, although I would say that in Godzilla vs. Violante, Godzilla's cells become an important plot point because people want to use them as a biological weapon. That's really unique among Godzilla films, and it was like not popular, but it actually makes that film much more compelling. All right. yeah i could see that I can see I don't know. so I like the journey inside Godzilla's body itself from, but yeah, the black hole thing. sorry All right. Well, how about you, Greg? What's your pitch? All right. I had one more note about burning Godzilla. So Godzilla becoming a nuclear meltdown. There's one where, and it's a pretty good one, where Godzilla, ah it's called the, in the fan world, it's like the burning Godzilla, where Godzilla is getting hotter and hotter and approaching a nuclear clear meltdown. And I forget, I can't say nuclear from because I'm from Michigan. um But like the,
00:55:31
Speaker
He's going to cause a meltdown and there's nobody has a good answer to that one. It's like a 90s film, but interesting. okay That's one of the dramatically slightly better ones. Sure. That does sound pretty heavy. That was good. Let's see. Let's hear yours. All right. So so mine, the details are a little less ah clear. So the the the idea, I didn't really have a title, but the idea that I have is basically Godzilla goes to the Olympics. So the basic idea is we have situations and I don't know if Godzilla was involved in the qualifiers or if it's just like somehow you're able to like airbud in a ringer at the Olympics or if it's like the world sports games or something, you know, where it's just like someone's got a kaiju. So someone else gets Godzilla and then it turns out it's humans and kaiju.
00:56:28
Speaker
doing Olympic events together. And then eventually I wanted to culminate in a kaiju relay race, which will then eventually involve just all the kaiju just like fighting over the baton. And and I think ultimately it ends when you have a gabara like kaiju take all of the medals because they wanted to win and they didn't get to win. So they're just going to take all the medals. And then everyone has to like,
00:56:57
Speaker
gang up together to get the medals away from the Kaiju. And then in the end, when everyone is kind of celebrating and eating dinner at Godzilla was like, come on over. And the Kaiju is like, all right. All right. And then it's just like, yeah, we're all friends. We're all friends. We're having a good time. It was a friendly competition. So that's my basic idea.
00:57:17
Speaker
I love it. It's like wacky races. Uh, but with kaiju, that's what I'd say that's a lot of opportunity for like video game spinoffs. Yeah. I'm going to make one suggestion that the guy that steals the medals is, uh, King Ghidorah and that we can put it on his three separate necks. I love this idea of first, second and third. That's so good. All right, Aaron. So who gets the green light? Oh, definitely Greg.
00:57:40
Speaker
OK, Greg, congratulations, Greg. I'll have to take mine back to development. I don't think should be like maybe animation or mini or, yeah, like there's some guy who does like YouTube shorts that are like summaries of video games and he does some of movies that I think he should just. I think he's. Yeah, that'd be great. Excellent. Well, are you guys ready to play a quick game? Yes, always. All right, we're going to play a little two out of three are real.
Kaiju Movies Quiz
00:58:59
Speaker
All right. It's like virtual karaoke with Chris. like Yeah, it's just me holding it down all night. What is that one? was that Is that an actual song? Yeah. Yeah, it's two out of three are real. Yeah, but that's not the song that, okay. It's sung by me. Yeah, right. Okay, perfect. yeah ah But it's inspired by Meatloaf's two out of three aren't bad. Oh, okay. Okay.
00:59:26
Speaker
Uh, now we're going to be doing two out of three of real for Kaiju movies. I'm going to give you three titles to a real one. I made up and want you to guess which one is made up. Is it turn tick or do we buzz in or what? The way that I'm going to do this, Aaron, you seem very much like an expert in this field. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to let Greg get first crack on any of these and anyone that he doesn't get, you can get the steel. Okay.
00:59:52
Speaker
All right. So Greg, you're on the spot. You got to represent the ship. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. All right. Question number one. Which one of these is not real? Let's get serious. Ibera, Horror of the Deep. Zatingo, Dictator of Space. Or Orochi, the eight headed dragon.
01:00:15
Speaker
Dictator of Space. Greg, you got that one, Greg. You're on the board. yeah Okay. I would love to summarize the first few minutes of Ibera Horror of the Deep of which there were scenes of this, because it's the wackiest act one ever. Okay, so it starts off with a shaman talking to someone's mother who says like, I have searched through hell in my vision, and your son's not there. So that means he's still alive. And mom's like, thanks. And then you cut to this guy. And it's like a fisherman's brother
01:00:49
Speaker
he's the, the brother is the one who's apparently been lost at sea in some kind of fishing accident. And he's like, gosh, I know I, my brother's still alive because the shop, how can I find him? If only I had a seaworthy vessel, not like my family's fishing trailer, if only I had like a yacht. And then he sees there's a yacht that's being given away as a prize in a dance marathon competition. And he's like, shit I better join this dance marathon, which is already happening. It's too late to join. He shows up and these two dudes fail out of the dance marathon. It's not over yet. And they meet this kid who's the fishing guy and they're like, what's up? You seem cool. And he's like, how do I win that yacht? And they're like, it's too late now, man, whatever. Do you want to go get drinks with us? He's like, yeah, okay, cool. So they get in a car and they're driving up the coast and they drive past a fancy yacht. That's not the yacht from the competition. And they're like, let's go see what's in there. He's like, what? No, it's breaking the engine. You're like, no, it'll be cool. And they
01:01:42
Speaker
get drunk and they pass out on this yacht and then they wake up. The two randos and the fishing guy, and they're drifting out at sea and this other guy wakes them up, a fourth guy wakes them up at gunpoint and is like, okay who the hell are you? And they're like, is this your yacht? And he's like, no. What? He stole a bunch of money because this is the same kind of like plot as in our film of the evening. And he's a robber. He was hiding out on this rich person's yacht. He was just going to sleep there with his suitcase full of money. He didn't expect anyone else would show up.
01:02:17
Speaker
The fisherman boy, the fisherman brother guy has like set the yacht adrift into the ocean because he's going to go find his brother with these two randos from the dance contest that he doesn't know. And this robber who has a gun, they eat all the ships like supplies, but eventually the the ship is wrecked and they wash up shipwrecked on Ibarra's Island, I guess, where Mothra is a god of the local tribes people. This is a perfect opening to a mill. All these things made sense. this No, definitely.
01:02:47
Speaker
Like we said about hackers, it's a one thing follows another type of plot. It's true. It era has a much higher budget. Funny comparison. And it has a lot of surf rock music. So love surfry I would recommend for the surf rock and the moth reaction. Question number two. Godzilla versus Monstro. Godzilla versus destroy. Godzilla versus Biolante. What was the first one again? Godzilla versus Monstro.
01:03:18
Speaker
I guess Godzilla versus Monstro. and I mentioned the other two on this show. yeah so and It's true. but it's All right. Now it's going to start getting a little bit harder. Question number three, Greg. Yeah. Space monster Wang Magui. Deep sea monster Rigo or hell monster Demogore.
01:03:40
Speaker
that stuff Hell monster Demogore? God, you've got it, Greg. You're three for three. I'm sorry, Aaron. You haven't had a chance to. No, that was good, though. I wouldn't have gotten that one. All right. Question number four. Cue the winged serpent two. Who? The rebirth of Mothra three or Godzilla versus Mechagodzilla two. This is tough. um This is real tough. I'm going to say cue the winged serpent two. You've got it again. That was fake.
01:04:11
Speaker
I wish that that one existed, because Q is a great movie. Q is a tech movie. Is it based on real ones? Yeah. Yeah. The original Q, the wing and serpent, I think it was supposed to be cut. So Connell was made by Bob Clark. I think so. That's right. that on Another show is made by the same guy that made the stuff. ah Question number five. All right, Greg, let's see if this one will trick you up. Gorgo, Gorath or Gormo.
01:04:42
Speaker
I'm getting so tough. Gormo. God, you've got it again, Greg. You're five for five. You're on a streak. Okay. Okay. How about this one? Okay. Gaharha, the dark and long haired monster. Enoro, the inverted monster. Gappa, the Trifibian monster.
01:05:08
Speaker
Uh, what was the first one? Gay Hara or sorry. Gay Har Ha. The dark and long haired monster. Can you go with that one?
01:05:21
Speaker
Aaron, can you steal? Oh, what were the second two again? Inoro, the inverted monster or Gappa, the Trifibian monster. I want Gappa to be real, but I don't know. I'm going to guess three.
01:05:38
Speaker
Gappa is real. That's the good news. You can't watch Gappa the Trifibian monster. There is no Inoro, the inverted monster. There's Trifibian. Gappa's Trifibian. He's got three amphibians in him. Three amphibians. OK. Like a salamander, a frog, in this yeah and snake. But the inverted monster sounds cool. You should make that one. It does. No, it does. I really yeah really ah really thought that one was real. Yeah. Thank you. tea that Alright, question number seven. Bulgasari? Pulgasari? Or Golgasari? Ooh, Pulgasari.
01:06:20
Speaker
Sorry, Pulgasari is real. Aaron, can you steal? The third one. Correct, there is no Golgasari. There is Pulgasari and Bulgasari. What? How about that? It's madness. Alright, question number eight. Mega Angel.
01:06:39
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The mighty peeking man or the great Buddha arrival, the great Buddha arrival. That one's real. I'm sorry. Okay. I'm trying to get someone that's not real. Yeah. The one that's yeah. Two out of three are real or the first just one. That's not mega angel or the mighty peeking man. Oh, it's tough. Mega angel.
01:07:07
Speaker
Correct. I made up mega angel. The great Buddha arrival was the one that I hinted at before as a possible oldest Kaiju movie was made in 1934. It was about a giant Buddha statue that came alive and marched to Tokyo. It is now lost, but was remade in 2018. Interesting. All right. Last question.
01:07:28
Speaker
Negadon, the monster from the stars. No, I'm sorry. Negadon, the monster from Mars. Ganlon, the monster from the stars. Or young Gary, monster from the deep. Oh, so immediately my first thought is young Gary. And that's exactly why I feel like that's not the answer. So what were the first two again?
01:07:50
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The first two were Negadon, the monster from Mars, and Ganlon, the monster from the stars. Let's say Megadon, the first one. No, I'm sorry. Aaron, can you steal? I don't know. I think you should get on with your instincts. I think it's three. Nope. Young Gary is real. Young Gary is a Korean, as I recall. Okay.
01:08:11
Speaker
okay So congratulations. Both you guys did a great job. Yeah. And I got to say, I definitely would not have gotten, uh, the by Lantra or whatever. Cause you said that a couple of times. Yeah, but I definitely would have picked that one as the fake one. Uh, so if you hadn't mentioned it earlier, I wouldn't have gotten as many as I did. So that was really your game in many ways. but Yeah. Congratulations to the whole panel and and thank you for letting us play asymmetrically. Aaron, I was worried it would have been a sweep.
01:08:43
Speaker
Now, towards the end, I think you should have given the year and the country for the films that were real. Next time. yeah But for now, it's time to move on to the Batty Awards.
01:09:04
Speaker
Now you're messing with me.
01:09:27
Speaker
That's right. Congratulations to all our nominees. We've just crossed the official longer than the movie barrier. Congratulations to us. yeah
01:09:38
Speaker
And congratulations to you, listener, and congratulations to all the winners of Batty Awards. Who wants to give out their Batty Award first? Wait, can you remind me a little bit about how Batty Awards are chosen?
01:09:49
Speaker
They are chosen by us. I mean, how do you pick, like, how do you know what we were giving the Batty Award to? What I like to give my Batty Award to is something that I was meaning to discuss earlier on, but did not have an organic way to fit in, or something that I wanted to make sure that wasn't missed. A little detail. For instance, my Batty Award, we did discuss it, but I already chose it. So, Salavi is going to a best opening theme song. This was a great opening theme song. Yeah, no, it's a great one.
01:10:19
Speaker
Why does it get a baddie award? That's good. You should get a good award. Yeah, but we're the bad movie podcast. Okay. Sometimes it's a good thing. Sometimes it's a bad thing. It's just kind of, you know. Just something notable. Pick the fake movie. Pick the bad movie. Have you listened to the show? This is my quiz to find out whether or not people have listened to the show as I don't explain to the baddie award before they come on. I have listened to several episodes most of the way through. Most of, well, if you'd only made it to this final segment,
01:10:45
Speaker
Yes, but the opening theme song, I wrote down two of my favorite lyrics there. One was, it ain't easy being a monster. And the other one, why is earth such a hard place to live? yeah And that will also be our closing music for the show. okay So listeners, make sure you stick around to the end to catch that closing song.
01:11:04
Speaker
Greg, do you have a bad word? Oh, I sure do. So first off, I would like to say ah honorable mention to Chekhov's hole. ah They introduced the hole very early. They introduced the hole very early. It's what the license falls through. And then you see him like covered up with newspapers and the guy doesn't fall through. And then they like do stuff. And when they come back, the guy falls through. I was like, oh, yeah, the hole. I forgot about that hole.
01:11:28
Speaker
Way to go, ah all monsters attack. But my real baddie award, the one that I'm really giving it to is for my favorite move, um which is Gubara biting Godzilla's thigh. Yeah, because he looks very stupid. It's very like it feels very Gubara. It's just like, yeah, you I don't know who you are, but you would do you would pull that kind of shit, wouldn't you? And then it's really dirty.
01:11:58
Speaker
Yeah, and it's like kind of cute and funny in a way when it's just like everyone's celebrating. Then Godzilla was like, ah, and you look down and there's Gabbara just like latched onto his thigh, just like, fuck you. ah And then it leads to a really good fight. And then the Manila at one point is like, I'm going to get it in there. And Godzilla was like, no, you don't. I'm doing this on my own boy. And it's a really great moment of Godzilla just pushing away his son is like, ah you're not going to fight. So just like props to Gabbara for the thigh bite.
01:12:27
Speaker
Yeah. Nice. I guess I give my baddie word to you, my maybe my favorite line in the film is after after the children attack the sign painter, they say something in, so in Japanese when you say yata, it's like hooray, right? And they say,
01:12:44
Speaker
Yata, baby, but like in English, baby. which It's like, what? Why are they saying this? It's local slang. Maybe or just like a trendy thing that people would say at the time. yeah I don't know. Very 1969, I guess. Yata, baby. I'll give a shout out here to the best ah Japanese English phrase that I've ever heard where a friend of A friend of a friend designs like funny t-shirts and stickers and stuff, including like the, it's like a messed up Bart Simpson that says like anime on the top and other stuff. We saw him at this one, I don't know, he was selling t-shirts in a market and he'd been in Kyoto with like another friend of ours where they were like studying Japanese abroad and he said to her,
01:13:29
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He's sashi buried.
Austin Powers and Japanese Culture
01:13:31
Speaker
He's actually buried to the max yo, which is amazing. Because he's actually very means like long time no see. So you hear a video games here that yeah, like been a long time hasn't it or whatever. And he's actually buried to the max yo is pretty awesome. That's pretty great. Tom baby comes close. Yeah, Tom baby. It's very Japanese Austin powers. yeah is And that's the right here. I think it's Yeah, I mean, of course, Austin Powers Love 1969.
VR Puppet Murder Mystery Project
01:14:02
Speaker
Now listen, Aaron, thank you so much for coming on the show. got Do you have anything that you want to plug? Like personal projects and stuff? Or anything.
01:14:15
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, eventually I'll finish my VR-ish puppet thing that I kick-started before the pandemic, where I did actually shoot all of the footage. and i did That's a big help. I did a screening of it on my last birthday. I'm paying an editor to finish it off. So if anyone happened to listen to this, did kick-start it, it is nearing completion. Congratulations. Five years later.
01:14:42
Speaker
Um, it will eventually be viewable on YouTube in all this, all of its 360 puppet glory. Um, I think that's the only thing I've got going on. All right. Keep an eye out for Aaron's 3d puppet VR YouTube murder mystery. Yeah. VR puppet murder mystery. Keep an eye out listeners and keep an eye out for us next week.
Next Episode Preview
01:15:06
Speaker
When we'll be talking about, unfortunately, shallow howl by the Farrelly brothers.
01:15:12
Speaker
Ooh, gross. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. like ah Well, Salem V. where i'm i'm I'm made of pretty tough stuff. But if listeners, I'm going to soon take a moment to plug the show. ah Have you thought about telling a friend about the show? I've tried speaking to your friends, but they don't know me and they don't care what I say. And if I tell them to listen to my podcast, they don't believe me.
01:15:41
Speaker
But if you tell them to listen to my podcast and they don't even know who I am, they'll be like, Oh, that's like a normal podcast that a normal person would make.
Podcast Promotion and Engagement
01:15:48
Speaker
That's not some guy asking me to listen to his podcast. That's like a real podcast. That's how we build a listenership. You guys, it it's not a way. Have you considered this the best way? That's what everybody says.
01:16:05
Speaker
If you want to email us, you can email us at your favorite bad movie pod. If you want to get on the show, if you have a suggestion for a movie, if you just want to tell us, uh, what you think of the show, we're be happy to listen. And you can also find links to our Instagram blue sky and YouTube all through the, uh, link tree that's in the show description. So check that out. Telefriend.
Conclusion and Goodbyes
01:16:30
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And until next time, be good. Goodbye.
01:16:35
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Goodbye. Bye.
01:17:41
Speaker
Gog! Gog! Eat me some!