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The Trestle Table: It Could Save Your Life. Season 2, Episode 4.
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The trestle table was a huge part of the Early American furniture period. An added bonus of the design is that it could save your life!
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Season Two, Episode Four Introduction
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Well, here we are, episode four of season two.
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I tell you, it seems like it was just today. It seems like it was just five minutes ago. We recorded episode three. Some new format we got. Yeah. Whose idea was this? I don't know. I'm going to have to have a meeting. They're going to be put on an administrative leave. Paid. Paid. We're going to have to bring this up at the Monday morning meeting. Yeah, man. What a marathon. We're going to shoot four Patreon shows after this. Yeah.
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You're interested in a little extra content there. Go check out the Patreon.
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I don't know what we're going to talk about then. Yeah, you get some live stream action going every quarter. You get a weekly bonus episode where we're going to be covering other subject matter.
Bonus Content for Patreon Supporters
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Might touch on this stuff a little bit, but we're going to use that as our outlet for all of our musings and complaints. Disgruntledments. Yeah, going to be giving you all kinds of tips and tricks and all that good stuff. Yeah, like planting your corn early.
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Yeah. Yeah. Watch out for witchcraft. Don't mess. You're going to get all this info. We got a new camera angle. All these got I mean, how thick is the packet today? 20 pages. Yeah, maybe at least. So you get 20 pages of study guides for, you know, each of these 12 periods. You got to be some kind of furniture nerd to be reading this.
00:02:45
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Yeah. I mean, we learned we learned a lot. We did learn an awful lot. So. And this was just the first episode. The first series, I'll call it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The first first furniture. It's like a unit. Yeah. Like the the early American unit.
00:03:07
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Yeah. I mean, we enjoyed it because I guess we offer. What can you say? Guilty. It's like anything, you know, when you're talking about minutia like this, like when I used to hang out like the motorcycle club and things
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You're just talking about gear ratios and a curve in a particular road or something that nobody would have the slightest interest in. That's why we find ourselves getting caught in conversations like in the shop when if somebody comes by and you start to talk, I mean, we talked to this woman yesterday for, I don't even know, half hour without taking a breath.
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She's like, I gotta go. She's like, the grandkids gotta go to soccer.
Trestle Tables: Engineering Excellence
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But yeah, the idea with these fourth episodes is to sort of tie a portion of it into present day. So how does something from the early American period
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How is it relevant today? So you may see this fourth episode evolve, maybe more than the other ones. But today we decided to focus on the trestle table, which was a big part of the early American period. Huge. I'll start off here with a little quote from Christopher Schwartz. You might know him, Lost Art Press, actually author of at least one book back there.
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The trestle table is an early achievement of structural engineering. It is lightweight. Sometimes. I could pick up an eight foot example with one arm and yet it is impossibly sturdy. It requires a minimum amount of material. It is portable and most of all, it is a beautiful form.
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Again, Christopher Schwartz of Lost Art Press. Yeah. He's talking about the classic example of the trestle table. Right. Which I have the name in here somewhere.
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We'll get into it. Yeah. So according to Joan Gloges, a social history of furniture design from BC 1300 to AD 1960, there are only two forms of furniture, a block, sorry, a box. That's right. A block and a box, I guess kind of the same thing. A box or a platform. Yeah.
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I'd say maybe things have changed a little bit. Uh, yes, since 1960, but good. Um,
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could fit most things into that, you know, cabinets, a box. That's right. Tables, a platform. Right. I think that's what she's alluding to. Like a bed is a platform, a shelf cabinets, a box. And no matter how ornate set of kitchen cabinets is a series of boxes. A charcuterie board is a platform for, for charcuterie for cheese and grapes and no real charcuterie, but
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crackers, deli, sliced salami, maybe a Hormel pepperoni, some of that cracker barrel cheese, port wine,
History and Significance of Trestle Tables
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log that's covered in chopped pecans. You got my charcuterie juices flowing over here.
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When it comes to boxes, nothing is more boxy than a chest. When it comes to platforms, nothing supersedes a trestle table. Did you write that or is that a quote from the book? That's a quote from the book. Oh, okay. And since at least medieval times, trestle tables have been a staple of the finer castles, manners, and huts of the Western world. I love that line.
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I guess the ones that weren't so well off just had like the eight on the floor. The finer huts of the world. For the surfs. The trestle table is the oldest type of American dining table and the predecessor was called a table board and frame. So literally picture a board with some trestles underneath.
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and we'll get into it right now. A long narrow plank of wood rested on a frame of several trestles. So a trestle, if you don't know, think of like a train trestle, almost like an eye-shaped structure that holds something up. Think of your race car tracks and things like that when you were a kid. An arrow plank of wood rested on a frame of several trestles or horizontal beams,
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These bridges of wood or horses were pegged and braced to the tabletop. The legs were designed to be easily dismantled for storage or moving and were very practical for traveling as the world was expanding. And see here a nice little, I'm gonna put over Rob's head, a nice picture of a trestle table, of a period trestle table.
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Before the Georgian period, which is like 1714 to 1837, the tops of trestle tables tended to be quite narrow, according to David Nell's English Country Furniture, 1500 to 1900. And, you know, why were they so narrow? Well, everybody sat on one side of the table. It wasn't like now where you're sitting across from people. And they could, one board. Yeah, right. And so if you were of the type that had a table, you had people serving you.
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So you sat on one side and the servants served you from the other side, almost like counter service. Hey, that's, there you go. There's the example right there. Yeah. And the practical purpose it served was in case you were attacked, you always sat where you're back to the wall. You could flip the table over and you know, prevent yourself from getting killed.
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Yeah, that's no joke. That's that's actual true historical fact. Yeah. People sat out there back to the walls like in a mob movie. Right. Yeah, I always want to see the door when if I go to a restaurant, I'm not going to sit with my back to the door. Got to assess any potential threats. Drop that table down. Yeah. And we're in New Jersey, too, so you never know.
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And as home security improved and dining more has changed, the trestle table became wider, but shorter in length and its basic form survives basically unchanged until now. And the leg layout, which is similar to like a pedestal table, it allowed people to sit more comfortably without getting all hung up in the leg. So we'll see how that now translates into use for us when we get requests from clients.
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Early American trestle tables find their roots in the dormant and refractory tables of the Middle Ages. So the dormant table was a trestle table. It usually had like a covering on it, like a runner, I guess you would say, a fabric. And it was, that helped imply that it was stationary. You know, trestle tables a lot of times were used and moved around a lot. And this is the first sort of example of a stationary piece of furniture in terms of table.
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So the runner was the sign that, okay, this is a more permanent fixture, that monasteries in the medieval times had a refectory, a room for congregate group dining. And a very long trestle table was popular in these rooms and commonly became known as refectory tables.
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In the late Middle Ages, the refectory trestle table became the table preferred for banquets and feasts held in castles or high estates. So we've all seen, you know, in movies, the kind of Harry Potter, you know. Oh, yes. Yes. So those were trestle tables there at Hogwarts.
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Yeah, I mean, I even think about like the Viking movies and things like that. Everybody's sitting at one of those long tables. Yeah, you're not you don't picture like a four legged table with an apron when you're now thinking about, you know, King Arthur or the Vikings. It's a very.
00:11:27
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you know we talked about the Jacobian that rectilinear heavy sort of look that the trestle table has that look the other tables really do not right as soon as you start getting into those finer pedestal table kind of I don't know I don't know when the pedestal table originated at least for dining
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You know, like the candlestick type tables and stuff I know are pretty old, but for dining, it seems like a more of a modern kind of thing. Maybe like late 1800s. Yeah. Like when did the round table become fashionable, like a round dining table? Everybody faced one another. Right. Yeah.
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Yeah, I don't know. I guess we'll find out as we continue on our research. And probably things like service adapts with it. Like, because we're talking about everybody's served, you know, and you're facing them and you know this, you've in fact schooled me on it where service comes from a particular side. You don't put your arm in front. Don't put the back of your arm to someone you never show in the back of your arm. Yeah.
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then you'll see the back of their hands. Early American trestle tables were typically massive and heavy. So you're starting to move away from that portability type thing that even Christopher Schwartz was talking about, you know, that he could lift up an eight foot. Yeah. Cause he's thinking about, if you can imagine putting your arm around the table, that's how narrow it was. That's more of the, the, what do they call it? The plank and, uh, uh,
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board and frame where it's like a piece of 1x10 with, you know, some trestles underneath of it. Couple of saw horses. Yeah, more like what we would call like almost like a buffet. Yes. So they primarily used oak and pine. We see that same thing as the chest. Pine was very common.
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top material, I guess because, you know, it's lightweight, maybe easier to flatten a big piece of pine than it was to do a piece of oak. So the trestle is typically made of oak and the top is made of pine. The designs followed those found in England, but they they continue to adapt here. As we saw, you know, at the very beginning, they're basically copies of English designs and then kind of changed as the decades went on here in the New World.
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So the American tables are moving more towards the simple rectilinear
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rectilinear legs, whereas the English had some more shape and the carvings and stuff. Yeah, the carvings were big there. Uh, so the carving, there was a lot of carving going on here, but they were flat carvings, like you see on the Hartford chest where, um, you know, the surface still remains flat, but everything is carved in, um, kind of like more like engraving into wood, like you would see on like a, you know, a watch or something like that. Um,
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where you're not making them so 3D, you're more taking out the negative space and leaving a flat, a flat emboss. Flowers and Lunettes were common.
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like we said in the Hartford chest, tulips, sunflowers, stuff like that. But they weren't as ornate as what was going on in England. And a lot of them, they use key tenons. So you have, I have an example here that I actually drew, which I guess we'll get into once we start talking about how we use the trestle design. So the trestles, the tabletop sits on top of the trestles and there's like a,
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a horizontal beam, I guess you would call it, that runs through the middle of the trestles a lot of times, and they would have keyed tenons that, you know, located those and kept them from falling over. Yeah. Keeps everything nice and upright. So nowadays, like, a lot of the tables that we get are... Oh, no, I do have more here. I had this big link. This is another I'm gonna...
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I'm going to have you see a picture of a key tenon. Oh, nice. You hold it up. I'm holding up the books. Not working. And a lot of times they repair with spindleback chairs, which I think very similar to the cane chairs that we talked about in episode one, where, you know, they have these turned uprights with these turned horizontals and stuff.
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And the trestle table is still a very popular design and oftentimes the most functional design for larger tables. So that's where we come into the present day.
Modern Trestle Table Design
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Like all the tables that we get asked to price are typically really big tables. Yeah. I like a trestle table. Yeah. If you if you're most of the time with custom work, excuse me,
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You're getting something custom because you can't find what you want or need commercially, at least in our experience. That's where a lot of our business comes from. Can't find what you need so you have to go to somebody custom.
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You can't really find a lot of tables that are like 14 feet long, 16 feet long, even 10 feet. Yeah. So, you know, we get approached often, you know, we need a table that's going to seat 18 people. We wanted to balance on the edge of a knife.
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Yeah. So imagine trying to design a table that can seat 18 people with legs and an apron. Yeah. There's going to be a leg every every six feet. Yeah. And it gets in everybody's way. Yeah. And it just looks dopey. Yeah. Completely dopey. So what I'll do here is I have fusion up on my computer. And can you see it? Oh, yeah. Let me see. Get this mic closer to my face. I have fusion up here. I'm just going to turn this one out.
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OK. One. Two. My mouse. So here I drew a trestle table. And, you know, I didn't paint over the design a whole lot, so it's not not the sexiest table. It's classic, but it is. Yeah, trestle table.
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Now, I'll overlay the image here of the table, the video, onto the screen. So this table is 192 inches long. How much is that in feet? That's pretty big. That's like 16 feet. Yeah, I think that is 16, right? I don't know. 12 is 144. Well, 96 times 2. Yeah.
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is 198 or 180 I think it's 192 for 16 feet yeah it sounds right yeah well let's see here I have breadboards 167 I don't know it's something like 16 feet big it's 50 inches across and it's still
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It still looks long, right? Pretty narrow. Yeah. I have three trestles and they're made up of pieces that are three by five, you know, with a nice taper cut onto them.
00:19:12
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They have there's breadboards, which not typical to the early American trestle table or trestle tables. You know, prior to that, more of a modern kind of thing. You know, we're dealing with a 50 inch wide tabletop. So you're going to need something there to keep that thing flat. It's a 16 foot, you know, you have 14 feet of of side grain glue up with two 12 inch breadboards.
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You know, on the breadboard, you know what I read that, you know, it led to a lot of cupping and stuff like that on the tables was because on the table, it's always getting wet on the top. People washing it. That makes sense. So here, let's get rid of the top and we'll get rid of the breadboards. You can see this substructure here. So these are the trestles have, uh,
00:20:07
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mortise and tenon joinery. See, I'll go over here to the center. So you see we got a big tenon coming out of this center section. And same thing at the bottom. So this is just a big mortise and tenon joint.
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Very strong. You know, this is going to be super solid. Those are three, you know, three inch by eight inch tenons by I think they're an inch wide. That's some timber. And you could see here. The keyed tenons. Let me get rid of the center mid. Here's your tenon. There's your mortise. Get rid of this.
00:21:02
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There's your tapered mortise. So it's got a pretty gentle taper on it. This goes from an inch down to three-quarter. But there you got your keyed tenon. Pull this up so you can see.
00:21:21
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So you could put put your staying your trestles up, run that beam through, put these key tenons on either side. It's going to lock everything together, but it's still able to be taken apart. Yeah, aside from the top, everything's pretty light, you know, as an individual piece, right? And, you know, we're going with a not a non typical
00:21:50
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size here you know this is a lot bigger than this might be something that you found in a medieval banquet kind of deal something big like this but definitely banquet hall I think even then they probably had multiple smaller tables that they sort of butted up into one another
00:22:06
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Oh, yeah, because the top is going to be limited by the size of the board that they can. Right. Yeah, they weren't doing a lot of joining of the boards. You know, we don't we just don't get as big timber today. And, you know, I got a question. Where does the river table come in in this? That was
00:22:34
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I better bite my tongue. Was that the Viking? I was going to say something extra snarky. I mean, the trestle table's all good. Well and good. But what about the river table? That was those Catholics that were persecuted in the Puritans. They invented the river table. Yeah. You know, like go down. We're going down to the river. Mm hmm.
00:23:02
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I don't think that's a Catholic song. That's Baptist. Yeah. That's, that's the Reverend Al Green. Yeah. The trestle table's probably my, like if somebody asked me to design a dining room table, that's my favorite. That's my signal for we got to stretch it. All right.
Relevance of Trestle Table Design
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Well, let's talk about the evolution of epoxy and its effect on the dining room table. Well, it all started with the dinosaurs and then they died. Then we turn their bodies into epoxy. I mean, that's a design that has been around for 700 years and it's still as pertinent, you know, maybe for a couple of different reasons, but
00:23:57
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Can you think, it's hard to think of anything else that's that intact over that amount of time? Yeah. It's definitely, I'd say one of the oldest, you know, maintain sort of aesthetics is something like that, the trestle table.
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Because you could see it in a home today. Oh yeah, and there's lots of different trestle designs, not just the kind that I drew. Even like you built the trestle table with the angled, you know, so you can spin it all kinds of ways. Yeah, sure. What was I going to say? I probably lost my train of thought.
00:24:45
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The luxury to work with those size beams and boards and everything, that's pretty cool. I love the thought of that. Those center sections that you drew, where it's like a big hunk with a tenon on top.
00:25:01
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that that kind of you know thrills me in a way oh yeah yeah to make you know you make these sub assemblies and you know that yeah I'd love to build something like that that's why you know I'm I like the Nakashima stuff because a lot of his stuff has that trestle mm-hmm designed to it where it's a
00:25:19
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foot and a vertical portion and a horizontal with joint, you know joinery and He he sort of took that aesthetic and made it lighter and more organic sort of looking where yeah It's very again the rectilinear look and that heavy You know, it's not an organic kind of look when you're talking about like a medieval to early American kind of trestle look more
00:25:47
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I don't know, looks more industrial is not the right word, but. Yeah, you know, it's funny also in the old, old examples, there's no live edge.
00:25:58
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Like, where where did that become a fashionable thing? I could. It doesn't work like George Nakashima was a big part of that. I don't know who his I know he didn't. There's no way he invented it unless maybe he did. But he really brought that into the the modern home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if that if there's a Japanese influence there. It might be something we're not aware of. Yeah.
00:26:29
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because I would have expected to see more of that in those like really early examples like fell in a tree you know flattening it on one side for the top yeah they probably saw that as as like half ass in it
00:26:47
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They're like, what do you mean? We're going to leave that? I just spent a seven year unpaid apprenticeship. All I got was a t-shirt. I just spent three pence on this table.
00:27:03
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Yeah, I mean, I can appreciate live edge in certain situations, but for the most part, it's been used and abused. Yeah. Just like the butterfly. Yeah. Everything. That's unfortunate. It's another George Nakashima kind of thing.
00:27:22
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It's taken a beating, the old live edge. Yeah, like it was supposed to highlight the natural beauty of a specific piece of wood and now it's just any piece of wood. Right. It's like I got this junky, this like side of the road piece of wood, not even pallet, but like a tree that was never, never should have been a piece of furniture wood, was never up to snuff.
00:27:44
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and we filled it and stabilized the the punky parts with with penetrating epoxy and we put colored epoxy in and some bow ties where they didn't belong and it's I don't know it's like taking a minute steak and and like
00:28:01
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and like stack and five them up and put in like sauteed mushrooms on the top and saying it's a steak. I thought you were going to like pretending with Chateau Brielle. Well, yeah, that's what I'm getting at. Wrap it up inside my face. Yeah, it's like making beef Wellington with steak almost. There you go. Ah, the beef Wellington. I'm not sure if I've ever actually had that.
00:28:29
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Yeah, we used to make these little hors d'oeuvres, little past hors d'oeuvres, many puff pastries with a piece of beef tenderloin in there. A little porcini mushrooms. Yeah. The old days in the kitchen. Yeah. So can we maybe recap or not recap, but we have any thoughts about the early American period as a whole?
00:28:55
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Well, we could, yeah, we could kind of go back and, um, you know, there's
00:29:03
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all these socioeconomic influences, because as we're talking about furniture design, we have to talk about the manufacturing of it and how that influences it and people who are customers purchasing it, the craftspeople who are making it.
00:29:30
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And although there are a completely different set of circumstances, they almost mirror what we experience today, which is interesting. I would have thought it would come out a little bit different than it did, because we're going back to a time when the country is really just a rough colony.
00:29:57
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Um, circumstances in people's lives were totally different living conditions. Yeah. Yeah. All these drivers have a, have a close relative and the things that drive our business today.
00:30:11
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Yeah, I mean, you know, you have people fleeing a country because of persecution. They come here and it starts off as more of a necessity because, you know, you move to a place with no there's nothing here. There's some native people, but there's no there's no civilization as they knew it in Europe because, you know, there's big cities and stuff in in in Europe that the new world didn't have any of that.
00:30:40
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So they have to come here and start building things and it's all out of necessity. And then people get a little settled and you see the artful side of the design start to come out more. And the individuality of the American design starts to become a thing where they move away from the English designs and they start coming up with their own riffs on these things.
00:31:05
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I'm interested to see what happens once there's like a full on, um, you know, severing of ties. The America becomes America, the United States, how that influences our concept of design, right? Because we don't want to probably rely on, uh, you know, the old, uh, George and everything that's named after a royal term.
00:31:34
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Yeah, and there's got to be, you know, start to be a rejection of the English style because there's an animosity there. I'm wondering how that comes to
Evolution of American Furniture Design
00:31:43
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pass. Yeah, like post-American Revolution, which must be
00:31:49
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What period would that be? Would that be federal? Yeah, I know the federal period's coming up. Let me see. I think that bottom piece of paper there has all the periods on it. All the way on the bottom. It's ripped. Maybe not. I must have taken it upstairs, but I had it all jotted down. Let me see. I might have it here in my notes. Notes. Podcast these two. Oh, yeah. So... Oh, no. It's not on there. Maybe it is. Right.
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Here Excuse me podcast where it is. Yeah there
00:32:33
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So the next section will be. Pennsylvania Dutch is in there, too. Yeah. OK, so colonial Pennsylvania Dutch federal Sheridan American Empire, Shaker, Victorian Arts and Crafts, Art Nouveau, traditional revival and modern. I'm surprised Shaker is that far down. Yeah. You have to double check the order on that.
00:33:01
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Yeah. Well, I mean, there have been a lot of surprises so far. So yeah. So you must be talking American empire is when maybe that's the post revolution. No, I'm I'm guessing that's like 1800s. Let's see. Sheridan. Furniture. History.
00:33:33
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So it's early 1800s Sheridan. Okay. So I'm sure the federal probably, 1790 to 1820. So federal probably spanned pre-revolution and post-revolution. Yeah. Cause that's only 20, you know, Sheridan was only 10 years after the end of the revolution. That's cool. Yeah. That's when you start getting into the more, you know, looks like you're Philadelphia high boy kind of stuff. I mean, look at this.
00:34:04
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Wow. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's some opulent stuff. Really? Yeah, that's, that's for the upper crust. Birds eye maple. But we don't want to, we don't want to ruin anything for you guys. We won't talk about this Sheridan anymore. Um,
00:34:28
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Yeah, I mean, interesting. I think this has got to be the most mundane out of them all. I mean, I think it's going to only get more interesting as we go, as we as things get more. I don't know, like as things ramp up, because you can see by the end of the early American period, like furniture making is becoming an actual thing. Yes, that's what I was going to say. It's becoming an industry.
00:34:54
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Whereas before it's just an necessity so right vernacular furniture people need a table they need a cupboard you know now people are becoming more established they have permanent residents you know they're these towns are growing and people more people are starting to come yeah there's you know
00:35:15
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Import export starts to happen. So you might see influence coming from, you know, we saw here like influence coming from the West Indies. Mahogany starts to come up. You know, cities start developing where there's people with money and who have worldly tastes. And so it should be pretty interesting. Yeah. I know there's stuff that comes from Asia like Japaning is yeah. Yeah. Is a verb, you know.
00:35:42
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So, yeah, there's a lot there's a lot to cover. Yeah. And hopefully we'll be able to do it.
00:35:53
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We're the guys to do it. So what do we got going on in the shop? Maybe we touch on that at the... On the Patreon? The culmination of this fourth episode. Well, what's in the shop is definitely based more on modern, the stuff that we're waiting on
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00:36:13
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the stone. That's definitely modern. Yeah, modern wall unit. I mean, straight out of that
00:36:21
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Textbook there of modern design simple, you know, yeah talk about rectilinear. Yeah
00:36:33
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Uh, got some, some work coming up for the church. We'll be doing a little extension of the altar rail. Um, so a little rework on that. They, they love the altar rail, but they, um, they want more room. They want more of it. Yeah. I think we tried to talk them into that originally.
00:36:52
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Well, they worry about it going too far into the congregation. Yeah, I think they were a little afraid of the response they might get. Now the people love it, so we're going to push it out a foot.
00:37:07
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Yeah, so bit a bunch of work recently, some more wacky kind of stuff, at least one part of it's wacky, a modern, another wall, whole wall system, fireplace, bench, kind of deal with some
00:37:25
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Maybe some paneling and shelves and more more modern a lot of this stuff that's coming from this particular design group is. Sort of like a. It's a trim down modern you know it's modern in in basic form but it's not doesn't.
00:37:46
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have the same kind of like flair almost that yeah you know it's that it's like it's contemporary it's yeah there you go contemporary yeah like you might think of modern as as like in the future this is like just
00:38:02
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You know the very simple clean more harkening back to the mid-century kind of stuff right right. And they seem to all be looking at the same articles that's it's a flavor of the times right now. But that flat wall kind of thing yeah I mean I do like the aesthetic.
00:38:21
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It's not the thing, like I like the way it looks, it's just not the most fun to build. No, it's pretty, there are not a lot of accessories there. Yeah, it's just kind of like. But you know what I say? Thank God it's not white painted shaker. Well, yeah, we wouldn't even be good in it. Remember that period? Well, it's still a thing. We just don't get those calls, thankfully. Oh, but it was like everything was. Yeah. Oh, man. We scared all those people off.
00:38:52
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Like, yeah, we got to want this eight foot tall pantry or this eight foot tall linen cabinet for the bathroom and the budget's $900. Like, yeah, okay. Oh, yeah. Uh, it's going to cost us that to deliver it and put it in. I know. And that's if we're doing you a solid. Yeah, that's, that's getting the friends price. Yeah. And we ain't friends. No, not even close. No, not at all. Yeah. But yeah, hopefully.
00:39:19
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Hopefully we get something real weird soon. Did just get an email about, I won't say what it is, because I probably jinxed myself. Something very intriguing, so. Intriguing's good. You know, we love to get something that's challenging. When we, when we say, all right, we want this, now how are we going to do it? Right. That's kind of our favorite project. Yeah.
00:39:44
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Cause hey, the more of those you can stick under your belt, the better. Yeah. Yeah. Like, uh, um, well we're waiting for the stained glass to go in. Yeah. You gotta follow up on that.
00:39:55
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I'd like to get some pictures of that door that we built. Yeah with the stained glass in it Well now we got to remember we're talking a month in the future. So maybe all these things have will have come to Oh, yeah, that's right. This is a month down around so yes, and that stained glass looks great, doesn't it? We hit the powerball last week That's right
00:40:16
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By now we will have disappeared. We'll be doing the podcast remotely from undisclosed to different locations with like our faces blurred out. Oh man, that's funny. We'll have had extensive reconstructive plastic surgery to change our appearance so that people don't know who we are.
00:40:39
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We'll have by the time when, when we record our next episode, we'll have been to makers camp. Oh yeah. Yeah.
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00:40:48
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Yeah. It's in two weeks. So when this airs, we'll have gone to makers camp already. Yeah. Yeah. So you'll hear about makers camp in, uh, in about
00:41:02
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About five weeks. Yeah. Well, no. From this? Two weeks? One week? Yeah. Maybe we should do a special Patreon episode. Recapping Bakers Camp. Yeah. Well, yeah, we could talk about it on that first. Yeah. Because that'll only be a week after. Oh, okay. There you go. Yeah, because we should be due.
00:41:33
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if we're going to do it a week early, second week in October, which is yeah, that's Baker's campus first week. That was just my stomach growling. I thought it was my chair. What time is it? 12 30. We've been at this since basically eight o'clock. Oh, it's time for lunch. Yeah. Well,
00:41:51
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We're running a little light on time for this week, but you know, we're still working the kinks out. Yeah. Yeah. If it's not enough, you've got to head over to the Patreon and get another nice little half hour, a little 45 minutes sometime. Who knows? We lose track in there because we're going on about all kinds of different stuff.
00:42:10
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We got a live stream coming up. I guess after this, if this is airing in four weeks, it should be in like a week or two. The next live stream for patrons and we don't have a subject for that yet. We're going to pry that out of the patrons. Yeah. What they want to know about. They want to know about more pricing information, more design, live design workshop or some kind of technique. So who knows? Do a couple of hours of live stream.
00:42:39
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Yeah, could be anything. Yeah. But yeah, I hope you guys are enjoying the new format. And we'll see you next week for the first episode of the colonial period of American Furniture. Yeah. Awesome. All right. See you next week.
00:43:14
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