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Politicizing Sports
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Is the right and left dichotomy sneaking into sports?
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Personal Anecdotes and Sports Preferences
00:00:16
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My fingers in your butt. Hey buddy. What's up puss? What is up? I wanted to call you puss because like 30 years ago you would have freaked on me.
00:00:27
Speaker
But now you're such a calm, cool, collective guy. know. It just rolls off of you, dude. It rolls right off, bro. do you Do you watch any football anymore?
00:00:39
Speaker
I don't and don't watch full games. I might watch a game at a friend or family's house a little bit, but I'll watch highlights here and there. but Are you still a Broncos fan at heart? Nah, not really.
00:00:50
Speaker
like If it's, I don't know, November 15th, the Broncos are 10-2, looks like the city's excited. that with you get on board or no? I just don't care.
Vaccine Discussions and Public Perception
00:00:59
Speaker
I can get on board. I just i wouldn't do it unless somebody's like asking me to or dragging me there, dude. I'm fucking sitting there writing shit about measles, man. I'm not.
00:01:08
Speaker
Come on. You got any feedback on that one yet? I've taken myself out of I would like for the people that are just just kind of listening to podcasts or our shit in the background, not really diving in or just kind of going, what the fuck?
00:01:20
Speaker
i want I think what you're trying to do there is say that. like that the no-vax people are kind of ridiculous because vaccines have actually provided a lot of ah lot of positive energy in our society for the last like 100 years.
00:01:32
Speaker
that Is that kind of the message? And you did it in your in your own way? Obviously. Yeah. It might not be that obvious. I can't help you if that's the case. do you when i Do you like block your schedule to listen to podcasts? Like I'm never listening to, I'm never like, I never got both ears tuned into a podcast unless something's like really riveting.
00:01:51
Speaker
So I think if someone just hears, gonna go hit some measles bitches, but they're not really dialed in. They might not make the connection to the vaccine. The no-bangers or the RFK debate.
00:02:04
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Yeah. There are those of us that live on the internet and live in the podcast world. I'd say I've gravitated more towards that. And then there are people that live in the real world and aren't in tune with it.
Football's Cultural and Political Dimensions
00:02:15
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So I would say, yes, if you aren't following anything online and you're not politically minded, most of the stuff I do in that with that political angle is just going to be like, what?
00:02:26
Speaker
Huh? Let's look for the message, people. But back to So you you're not you're not paying attention to sports because the reality is you you're now pursuing creative crap stuff. but you don't But the NFL didn't drop on you because it's become so hardcore right wing that ah that's why you're like turned off by it?
00:02:43
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No, no, no, not at all. I mean, I like the game. I just have a harder time sitting through a full game. There's lot of downtime in that fucking sport, dude. Really? Oh, why don't you move out of the country then?
00:02:55
Speaker
That's what foreigners say. Yeah. Most foreigners just think it's a bunch of fat people running into each other. But that's not true. There's a little bit of that. Yeah. I would imagine if you haven't watched that, it looks pretty fucking stupid.
00:03:10
Speaker
It's just so hard to follow. Like, it just doesn't make any sense what's going on. I mean, whoever came up with the game must have been fucking dropping acid or something, too. Like, the snap between the guy's legs, the quarterback. Now most of it's shotgun.
00:03:24
Speaker
But, like, the the quarterback's got his hands up the guy's ass and taint. And you're like, who came up with that? So if you didn't grow up with it, and that's, like, the first thing you see is, like, all right, there's a guy putting his hands up this guy's ass.
00:03:36
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First, a fat, sweaty piece of shit's ass. and then And then he hands the ball out. It's, like, it's just so weird. but It is. But it's fun as hell to play.
00:03:48
Speaker
It's kind of. Not fun to practice. Well, yeah, practice was awful. As I really thought about the injuries I took, specifically the head injuries, I wondered had I stuck out four years of college, what that damage would have been. And then I wonder for people that continue to play the NFL, what that damage is.
00:04:06
Speaker
And I'm going to be a liberal pussy and just say there are times over the last few years where I am watching football and I do see crushing hits. And I just think, what are we doing? You don't get excited by the big hit?
Sports and Political Alignments
00:04:18
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I used to. I do think it's amazing. And there are some talent. There's a kid locally that went off to Nebraska who you go watch a high school game with him and he comes back from the safety like a full on missile and destroys running backs. It's exceptional.
00:04:32
Speaker
Which is something that you would understand from yeah experiencing that or playing those positions and shit. Yes. He puts his body on the line. It's exceptional talent. And it's also like, fuck, what's that going to be like, bro, when you're 10 years from now?
00:04:47
Speaker
Let's introduce the show. So i I think I'm seeing this more now. Like when I tune back into the U.S., you know, like it seems like everything now is divided politically.
00:04:58
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Sam's Club supposedly is is right and Costco is left, and which which is like, what the fuck? I don't know why. But then yeah I think, you know, you have Ford and Chevy. And I think what it Chevy took took ah bailout money and Ford didn't or some shit.
00:05:11
Speaker
But you have like everything that was like on the political line. But I feel like what's funny now is like we had like it's sports. So the idea is like, how do we let's let's talk about it in sports. And I feel like football, especially the NFL, has become this like hardcore celebration of ah the right, which is like patriotism and being a man and all this crap. ah and And it's like a bit of a turnoff for me. I still love the game. yeah i much rather watch college and NFL because it still has that youthful fun.
00:05:39
Speaker
Yes, it does. but But I don't think I'm better than that. like Like, I think in the 90s or something, like if you're comparing football to cross country, you clearly would think the cross country family is is a liberal family and the in the football player is the hard ass. But you're like, but it's probably back then where you feel like, that's fucking pussy.
00:05:58
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some Some meathead like that. Yeah. Which now has become woke or liberal. But it's like, all right, you fat football fucks, why don't you go run 10 miles? You have a fucking heart attack with your right wing processed food that you got at Sam's Club.
00:06:12
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. right, episode over, dude. I got it out. Well, couple comments. Costco, Sam's Club. I wonder how that happened. I don't think it's a ubiquitous thing, but I would say Costco obviously brings in the fair trade stuff. And I think there's some association to the West coast there in the Seattle area.
00:06:32
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So it's real. ah yeah Oh yeah. I think you'll find more left leaning people will gravitate towards that. And I think Sam's club sells ammunition and yeah, does that stuff.
Football's Safety Concerns and Cultural Impact
00:06:43
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And then it it really focused on driving prices down, similar to Walmart and,
00:06:48
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mean, that's more of a hardcore capitalist. Those are my those are my don't know my thoughts on why maybe. But the sports thing, NFL, I'm not sure how hardcore right it is. It feels that way because now the American flag feels right.
00:07:01
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I know a ton of people that just love football. It's independent of their politics. But yeah, pretty left-leaning people that just fucking love it. But I think the biggest thing that changed was the CTE thing.
00:07:14
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Yeah, living in that woke fear. but But it's funny because the head injuries are some – I don't think I ever got hurt b playing football, by the way. um I might – when I'm 75, if I make it that far, I might be like ah you know having issues. But I don't think i ever got hurt.
00:07:29
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i I think I might have broke a rib once. you never had You never had your bells rung? Yeah. Yeah, multiple times, I bet. And that's that's a concussion. bals Bells rung. So 90s, bro. That's wild concussion.
00:07:42
Speaker
Well, okay. But I did that riding, going off a jump once. When I first moved to Colorado, i was like hanging out the neighborhood kids, and I was trying to be all hard-ass. So i was like, let me let me borrow your bike. And I went off this big jump. i i was I was flying into it.
00:07:59
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Pulled up too hard, and and the dude had like this sweet bike. know my neighborhood, bro. It was like a pro ah pro bike. It weighed like four ounces. And I just overdid it and just slammed my head backwards and knocked myself out.
00:08:10
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And everyone's like, what are you doing, dude? Yeah, but that's not... the objective of what you were doing. Whereas in football, the objective is to smash through your opponent and obliterate them.
00:08:21
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just saying, we just said football, football is bad for your head. Like you can fuck your head up in so many different ways. Do you think the new rules have fixed that? The new rules? No. Yeah. There's a lot. of They're take, it's, I just think they're taking a lot of measures to do shit. That's like, it is the game kind of what you're saying. I kind of agree with you. Like, it's like the game is,
00:08:40
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hit each other, tackle, and like, you can do all these rules, change the kickoffs, do all this shit. And like, if it is the game that it is, and that that's just part of it. Yeah. It is part of the game. I don't know that they're making a dent other than the fact that they're probably laying off and practice more. I know at the high school at ah level they do, but our era was full of just, hey, you line up 20 yards from that guy.
00:09:01
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All right, you guys go full speed to each other and we'll see who's tougher. And we just smashed the shit out of each other over and over. ah Toughness. yeah I think they've let some of that go. i don't know if there's a ton of Oklahoma drill rolling.
00:09:13
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probably different parts of the country they are, but I don't think that's healthy. Do you think what I perceive as sort of it being the right wing sport is true? is that, you think that's, that's not really true. That that NFL or even college it doesn't split people politically.
00:09:29
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to it To an extent it does, but I think you're more looking at this idea of toughness, what it means to be a man. Football sort of embodies that to an extent. And I think that's what's driving the feeling of it being more right leaning.
Political Stereotypes in Sports
00:09:41
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So I know you didn't want to do this, but if like if I went down to 10 sports and just said the sport, you probably pretty quickly could be like liberal conservative, right? Maybe, but yeah, we could try. I don't know if we get it right. Well, maybe you don't know. Like, all right, let's just let's just do five.
00:09:58
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um Okay, soccer. I'll go liberal. Why do you even hesitate? I hesitated just because I was thinking about the head injuries and wondering if...
00:10:11
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I don't know. i wondered if people were moving away from that, that were more woke. Yeah, but I just see it as ah it's embraced around the world. And so it's like in the the right wing patriotic way, it's like that's what that's what silly euros do, or you know, or that's what everyone's south of Texas, i.e. Mexicans.
00:10:29
Speaker
That's what they do. uh yeah so but i mean maybe if i was in st louis i would maybe the answer would be different because because for some reason soccer is getting youth soccer is huge there i think it actually probably is in denver now too it's everywhere man it's and there's an elitist quality to it they're looking for you to play year round yeah like it may it's interesting because i see that as a left-wing sport but really what it is is a rich person sport right like year round club all of them are really at this point but yeah Yeah. All right.
00:10:58
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So soccer, we're saying left. It's actually kind of right because of the money involved now. But it used to like here, it's still like the people's game. So kids are playing in the street parks with a shitty ball that's falling apart. But it's it's still like that, which is cool, which takes my next sport, which used to be like that. But now you're getting you're getting pinched for three or four hundred bucks a month. Hoops.
00:11:19
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Would you say that's a left or right? it's That's an interesting one because you have the race. You know, we tie basketball to a race. I'm going to left. this Just because of the the but people that play it or or what?
00:11:34
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I think to play that sport, it forces you to co-mingle with different races. It forces you to at least examine or be in touch with sort of and NBA and WNBA culture.
00:11:47
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You know, their messaging in those pro leagues is quite a bit different than the NFL, right? that's ah That's a good point. Yeah. yeah Yeah, you're going to see some of those movements with t-shirts that are like Black Lives Matter or whatever through those leagues. You're not going to do you're goingnna see that in the NFL, most likely.
00:12:08
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Right. do I don't know if you can get a feel for it. like Your kid's been playing hoops now his whole youth life. Most of his teams feel like ah a nice mix of, I mean, I guess it depends on where you go to high school too, like affluent families or is it is it a nice spread of American culture culture and income levels?
00:12:26
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Not just his team, but the teams he's playing against and everything. The club team he was on was well just white dudes. Right. But they were playing some people like from all over the oh yeah spectrum, right?
00:12:37
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Most of the teams were 70%, 80% black. Because I have a feeling as as is as we ah we equate soccer with some – it's like techno music or some shit or those those parties that European guys in Capris are – and Lecaug Sportif sneakers are listening to.
00:12:54
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But you're not, you probably go to a soccer tournament, the same one that that your son might have went to a basketball tournament. You get these dudes from the hood, from Affluent, everything in basketball. Soccer, probably not.
00:13:05
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I get the feeling just a bunch of yuppie kids playing soccer. If I say there's Latin soccer teams that they're all in poverty, so I don't want to say that.
00:13:16
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True. But there are definitely all Latin teams that punch way above their weight from a resource perspective. I will say that. you can You can put together a crew. Like if you're, you want to, let's get all the best, all my friends in my neighborhood, they're predominantly Hispanic or whatever, or black or white. You can pull together a crew. And it might look like a racial profiling, but it's really just like putting together the best team in your area or something like that. Yeah. Right.
00:13:44
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Basketball left. Soccer is kind of a gray area. Left, but but funded by right. Football, right. Baseball? I don't know, man, what's going on in that sport.
00:13:54
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It's mostly white dudes in America now playing At your pro level, you're bringing in Central America and others, Japan. I think you said locally it's ah it's a rich man's game now.
00:14:06
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Yeah, African-Americans aren't playing as much, dude, because... Yeah, they haven't been playing that since, like, the 80s. I just think that at some point, both the right and the like baseball kind of lost this the cool vibe.
00:14:17
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and know think it did, dude. I think it just it just demanded at a certain expense that used to be played through those rec centers and stuff. you could I mean, i always played Little League. I think like what you've said, too, the game is so athletically challenging for most people that it's just not accessible for most people that aren't gifted athletes.
00:14:34
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So I think that's yeah part of the problem. Yeah, quite Quite the opposite. um But ah I think it's proud like it's ah it almost feels like a country boy type sport now.
00:14:46
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little bit. Something like that. I haven't met anyone recently who's like, dude, I love going to watch baseball. I think white boys go out for it because it's like oh, I know I can probably play. If I just work really hard at this like minutia, this fucking micro skill, just grinding this stupid micro skill that doesn't really encompass anything worthwhile or holistic, then I can actually play. And I think a lot of white dudes do that. They can afford the expensive bats and equipment.
00:15:12
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They like the stats. this Nobody's watching this sport. Nobody's watching this sport. Exactly what you said, though. is but like The attention to detail, yes. but the like I went and shot. My son started playing down here.
00:15:24
Speaker
plan what Honestly, I think it's so awesome, dude. A dump of a field. like they they Someone needs to cut the grass. It's all uneven. cost me $20 a month, and he's playing with a bunch of kids from all over Latin America, basically, because Costa Ricans aren't really that, and it's not one of these Latin American countries like Dominican Republic or Venezuela that has a baseball culture, Cuba, Puerto Rico, which I know is not its own country.
00:15:49
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but But, so it's all these kids that might have a dad who's Venezuelan or mom who's Cuban or whatever. So it's it's pretty awesome. and And the bats are are probably like older than the ones I used in the early ninety s it's so It's so crazy, dude.
00:16:05
Speaker
But when I went to the U.S. to get my – when I was up there for work and I got my son a glove and I was looking at bats, I mean, you can't really get a a new bat for under 400 or 500. It's like, how is that – It's disgusting. How is that even possible?
00:16:19
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It's disgusting. But one question to clarify this right-left thing, you're assuming that people with money would lean right. I'm not sure that's true anymore. I'm not sure that's true. They're just different segments. Yeah.
00:16:30
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No, maybe I am, but I mean, i have those people most of people in my family, my extended family that that have a lot of money are left. but But of course, they didn't they weren't actually, I mean, they were I didn't have that many male cousins or anything, but they weren't like pushing their kids into sports really either.
00:16:47
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like it It just seems more like, I don't know, this is a different, this we we're breaking it down by sport, but it's ah it's even like the idea of pushing your kid into sports seems more right than left in my mind. like A lot of more left people are like,
00:17:01
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got their kids doing other shit, trying to get them, you know, trying to travel with them or play instruments or performing arts or just focus on academics. That seems like a that actually seems like a left and rich, like an upper left tier or something like that.
00:17:16
Speaker
Stuff like that. Focus on that but academics or performing arts or some shit. Maybe mean not academics, performing arts. Yeah, that there is a caricature of both sides that we could articulate pretty easily. I mean, the right guys, like, i don't know, the kids out there fucking slinging footballs with his dad.
Media Influence on Sports and Politics
00:17:34
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The dad's, like, aggressively coaching him at six years old and probably yelling a little bit. Take it like hitting ground balls at him 105 miles an hour, tell him keep his body in front of it.
00:17:45
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All of it, yeah. He's got and the little carrying case with the Gatorade bottles just for him and his son to train out there. i mean, he's got everything dialed in and maybe even has a tackling dummy in the backyard, all that stuff.
00:17:57
Speaker
Tackling dummy in the backyard, that's strong, dude. Yeah. And the left, they're doing, you know, they're putting them in like Olympics of the Mind or some sort of fucking... come here and out of these five pieces of paper, make a sturdy structure that will blow this fan on and it can't blow over. And they're doing shit like that.
00:18:16
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That's all left. You don't have a single right winger doing shit like that. Baxter. It's time for your spoken word class. Yeah, he's got 16 allergies.
00:18:27
Speaker
You can't play football because he has it a grass allergy. Those are the caricatures, but the truth is is we're we're all crossing those lines all the time. I can't remember the exact situation, but my friend one of these comics that used to take me around, Kostaki Economopoulos was his name.
00:18:41
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and he he ended up He does a lot of work like making material about the NFL and stuff. i trying to I was trying to help him with a joke. He was saying like why he why he didn't turn out to be the next Ray Lewis or something like that.
00:18:52
Speaker
And it was something about his speed or something. And I was trying to say it's because ah he had a grass allergy and it didn't really work. But I thought that was funny. Some guy would have been a Ray Lewis if it wasn't for his is liberal pussy grass allergy. But we couldn't get it couldn't get it through. Or maybe he just didn't believe in it. So he wasn't he wasn't selling it, dude.
00:19:11
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Well, let me ask you this. Why does any of this matter? Who gives a fuck? Our show? No, I'm kidding. I just think it's funny. Like, I don't, maybe I just wasn't in tune, but I don't remember everything having a side. Like, it was just a sport, like you said. And I feel like that's happened.
00:19:28
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It seems like people are taking sides that way. And I was just kind of wondering if it's creeped into sports, because the NFL, to me, feels pretty right. I could, but maybe I'm wrong. Like, look at the last two or three halftime shows.
00:19:40
Speaker
It's mostly hip-hop, R&B, black entertainers, right? Yeah. They've all sucked, by the way. Wow, did they? Yeah. But that's a good commentary on the culture. The whole culture is...
00:19:54
Speaker
Looking for a side I think and looking for a reliable I think mostly steps for money just a reliable audience to absorb their advertising and I think that's where it starts and then it gets a little bit solidified like I didn't understand all this cracker barrel stuff I don't know if you knew that where they changed the logo with this kind of like a fat plantation owner man like fucking with a barrel he was an old white guy and they took the that guy off and then trying to simplify their logo but the right all went crazy and said put it back that's woke.
00:20:25
Speaker
It's like the picture like a trans guy holding a dick or something they're like we can't figure out why. Yeah. yeah No it didn't do anything it just didn't. This yeah that's my point though like fucking Cracker Barrel logo is a political statement it's like what the fuck man.
00:20:45
Speaker
You know, we felt it on all the TV shows in Hollywood. Hollywood went too far. Well, on a percentage basis, there just aren't as many gay and lesbian transgender people in people's lives to justify the amount of characters that they were sort of thrown at you.
00:20:58
Speaker
And I mean, I wasn't up in arms about that. In some ways I could probably advocate for that in terms of just representation and knowing that those people are in the world, but it also gets fucking ridiculous. I think you're patronizing those people because you're like, oh, we're going to have a unique and interesting storyline. So we just pop a trans person in there because they're complicated or a gay person. They're complicated. Yeah.
00:21:19
Speaker
They say a a few lines about gender fluidity and it's like, yay, Hollywood. And I mean, the right sort of does some of that too. I mean, the WWE is grotesquely moronic. You really have to suspend all intelligence to enjoy that.
00:21:34
Speaker
And it it really appeals to that segment. Well, if you're not, if you don't get to digest it every day and you live in a different culture and then you watch an NFL game that once every fucking month is broadcast, you get the English or the U.S. feed and you start watching the the commercials in the U.S. Pickup truck, pickup truck, pharmaceutical, pharmaceutical, pickup truck, pharmaceutical.
00:21:56
Speaker
You're like, damn. Is a pharmaceutical right wing though? Or is that just... and that That's a weird one, huh? That flipped. No, i just I just think it's crazy. like i don't You don't see those.
00:22:07
Speaker
that's a different That's a different topic. but You don't really see pharmaceuticals advertising when you get outside the country, ever. And you're they're probably maybe 50% of the ad space on TV in the US. Yeah, because you guys have sensibly went to universal healthcare. care I mean, most of the rest of the world has figured this out and we're still fucking dicking around with This piecemeal shit bankrupting half of our population.
00:22:28
Speaker
Okay. Because you don't like to make money, Lance? Ooh, ooh, ooh. Socialist. yeah Socialist. Don't take away my Medicare, you socialist.
00:22:40
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I think you're right, though. Now that I think about it, like why we why we decided to have this show, maybe maybe it's not hour's worth of material, but like every now that i retrace my steps and I think about – because it happens i once while. I'll get an NBA game and in the like maybe the TNT or ESPN feed or whatever, and it's not the same.
00:22:59
Speaker
There's still like meathead commercials because it's a sport and all that shit, but it's not – the NFL is definitely – Like every, every September I go, what, what is going on there? It's, it's like, uh, you know, take this gun out of my cold dead hands type of programming.
00:23:15
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And it, it gets me every, it gets me like every, every year. So I think that's what happened. So it's not the sport might be like people play it, but like sort of the branding around it, it seems very hardcore. Right.
00:23:27
Speaker
And I think you're right about the NBA. I don't know if they have a choice. And that's the interesting thing is in some ways to be prof the, the leagues don't have a choice to sort of appeal to the sensibilities of their audiences. If they're going to make money on advertising. And so what happens is the culture sort of dictates what what's popular.
00:23:47
Speaker
Zen patches for whatever reason got hella popular on the right and the advertising on any sort right media, they're dropping that ad constantly. I don't know why football, All of a sudden got that way. It must have been Trump going after, what was his name?
00:24:02
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God, I forgot his name. Kirkpatrick? No, what was his name? Who was the dude that knelt down during the anthem? Oh, on the on the Niners? Just fucking research it right now. Put it Put it in. Put it in. Put it in.
00:24:13
Speaker
What you say it was? don't know. thought was Kirkpatrick. Anyway, it's not going to make this podcast better. Nothing will. Yeah, because I going to say it's... it's ah I mean, I've noticed this for a while now. Not just now, but it just seems like...
00:24:27
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Oh, Colin Kaepernick. Patrick. yeah and That guy was good, too. That guy was great. and He got pretty basically blackballed from football. I think that was a turning point. The CTE research was a turning point.
00:24:41
Speaker
I think the the right is really anti-expertise. The left is a little too utopian. What about all the... Colorado's a different beast, but... like You know, like my ah my daughter's into surfing, but like these these sort of fringe sports, I think they have a political vibe, a left or right, or like, maley you know, Colorado, all the cyclists.
00:25:07
Speaker
I mean, there is a bit of that, like, what's what's the what's the the big event in cycling would be the Tour de France, probably. So, road cycling and like, do people just like, ah, those French pussies.
00:25:18
Speaker
I think but that's ah that's a money sport. but It is. I think it's probably left mostly. And so is running and marathoning and triathlons, all that stuff. You got the UFC, NASCAR, WWE. Yeah, let's do that one. UFC.
00:25:33
Speaker
want you to think about it for a while. UFC, right or left? Spin it. Spin on it. Let me see. Let me see. Let me see. Yeah, they're all fucking right. Bad shit right. UFC is number one, obviously, because the president's embraced it too. but like But what's crazy is I doubt the fan base. There's got to be tons of left people that like it just because it's popular right now.
00:25:56
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Or do you think most of course left-leaning people are like, it's too behind? I think part of it's there. It's brutal. It's brutal on the athletes. But I think they probably enjoy it because it's exciting to see people get fucked up.
00:26:06
Speaker
Yeah. See, that's a great example. Yeah. UFC. I forgot about it because I don't even consider it it a sport. that got That's super politicized. That's a battleground. Dana White is over that. They're marketing that hard to the right, but more to the the so-called manosphere or tough men.
00:26:23
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and It's worked. yeah It's fucking worked. there Now we're getting to the bottom of it. When you talk about Dana White and Roger Goodell, like yeah it used to be that that these leisure activities you would avoid at all costs.
00:26:35
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any ah any of this stuff, I think. Even the athlete, a lot of times, they were just supposed to be like, yes, sir, no, sir, shut up. That's changed. Some of it for the better, like like maybe some NBA stars taking a stand when when there was like a police shooting or something like that.
00:26:48
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But now you've got this push of people like Dana White and Trump, and I don't know Roger Goodell is publicly speaking about the right, bu but it seems like the NFL is going in that direction. like it's it's not It's not the norm now to avoid it. It's almost the it's almost like the norm now to speak out.
00:27:04
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You're kind of right. It's like the Vince McMahon like effect or something like that. you know like Everyone's becoming more like him. Right. What's frustrating is that if you adopt or if you're interested in one thing that falls into a category of either right or left, then you have to adopt.
00:27:22
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the whole portfolio of absurdities in that culture. So like the right, if I somehow just start liking monster trucks, then all of a sudden it's like, I've watched Fox News, I'm into football, fucking love Trump, did rock.
00:27:36
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Yeah, I mean- I don't get what's going on there. I don't i don't see a lot of like people straddling these worlds, these cultural worlds. I wonder now if you just hear it so much, you start to believe it. Then you start listening to Rogan. And so much just his guests and his guests are intelligent, are going to sound smart. And then you start to listen to it and you believe it.
00:27:53
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Speaking for a friend, but i think I think that it's like you go down that path, you're going to find people that speak eloquently and And you're going to, right? Like once you start, I think it's so easy now. Like, like you said, you, you don't just go on that. You don't go over here and be like, I'm gonna listen the podcast or I'm going to watch the UFC. Like immediately you're, you got like 10 different things going on, you know, like it becomes in a full entertainment package of, you might start listening to Rogan, you know, and then you might have access to,
00:28:25
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Theo Vaughn. And then you might, yeah, then you might get into the things that they're, they're talking about. And through that channel, you might start following ah RFK on Instagram. And because of that, you're going to pummeled with like ideas about what's going on and how the white race has been taken. You know, like it goes pretty quick. It does. I think it was real quick. And it's not one person's fault.
00:28:45
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No, it's not Rogan's fault, but, but because you're following him, you're probably going to get the algorithms going to pump some other shit at you. And then like, it'll, yeah. Cause it's all, you know, the money is now in attention and grabbing your attention.
00:28:58
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We know Trump is is fantastic at that. And so if they can like keep feeding you things at that appeal, of course they will. But it is making a pretty scary society. Like I have it. I feel it with my own family where I'm like, wow, you've gone far.
00:29:13
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You've gone really far. They're just so anti-expertise. They're so, and I'm not somebody who blindly follows any expert, but like I do trust somebody that spent their life doing that. And they just absolutely don't care anymore. Do they know? Do they, and I'm like, do they act, but do they think they're listening
Misinformation and AI Concerns
00:29:29
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to experts?
00:29:29
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These days it feels like if one scientist comes out and he'll sound logical and he'll sound thoughtful and comes out and sort of disparages climate change, for example, It's something for a lot of people on the right to latch onto and say, this was never true.
00:29:44
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Sort of like, okay. I just never experienced that prior to Trump. It's just crazy. So we took a look at sports. You just see it. Like, what's going to happen? i mean, you're just going have two distinct cultures in this in this country fighting each other constantly, self-selecting into the portfolio of of the side. Like, I've got to now do cross country and I got to do fucking triath triathlons because I'm on the left and It's just a strange society.
00:30:12
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The problem is if you go on Instagram for like a day, you could get convinced of anything. Because it's not like, you know, the right wing, it's not like they got a guy in fucking overalls being like, God damn i'm foreigner. You know, like it's it's a well thought out presentation and it's going to get pounded into you.
00:30:27
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Yeah. So you can believe it. Or if you believe something, it'll back up your point. Climate change or, you know, back to our point about sports. Like if somebody had a good idea why these head injuries are not, it's not because of football. It was like, pre you know, it was a genetic lottery loss or something like, you know.
00:30:43
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they'll put you'll put it out there and then it it seemed like if if you you can believe anything really right now like you could probably go out right now and find a thousand stories why meat is good for you and you can find a thousand why it's terrible for you like red meat you can and and that's fine i mean people want to like come up with pitches like that but what they're also doing is adding on a specter or an enemy to sort of heighten their message to like enhance it and embellish it more so it's like These liberals will tell you that red meat is terrible for you. And as a rancher, I'm going to tell you I have seen and then and do us.
00:31:17
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There's just a cultural divide that's so deep that it really benefits you to call that out in your topic. It gets you more hits. Like if you think of what's ah I don't know, what's one of those meat substitutes?
00:31:28
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don't know what they're what's it you you know, i those meat substitute names beyond me. It's kind of like what I was asking the five sports that we asked would Beyond Meat advertise on the NFL game or would they advertise on the Boston Marathon or would they advertise on like, you know, ah you put a Beyond Meat commercial at the halftime the Super Bowl. People are probably like, what the fuck?
00:31:53
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I'm really concerned with the lack of intelligence in our country. and just the lack of engagement on sort of critical thinking. We really have some truly fucking stupid people that are susceptible to some really harmful stuff at every corner, and it's not great for our society. So who's going to win? ai is going to win because we are dumb as fuck.
00:32:14
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That's a wrap.