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Shuffling the Deck: Tories making waves, Sports Shenanigans, and Campus Controversies
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Join hosts Jodie Jenkins and Tony Clement for another riveting episode of "And Another Thing," where they dive deep into the latest happenings across Canada. This week, the duo dissects the dramatic expulsion of the Leader of the Conservative Party of Canada from the hallowed halls of the House of Commons, unraveling the events that led to this unprecedented moment.
But the conversation doesn't stop there. Jenkins and Clement pivot to the realm of sports, sharing their insights on the latest exploits of the Toronto Maple Leafs and the Blue Jays, serving up a lively discussion for sports enthusiasts and casual fans alike.
And as the political and sporting worlds collide, the hosts turn their attention to a contentious issue brewing on school campuses nationwide: the emergence of pro-Palestine encampments. With insights and analysis, they explore the implications and potential outcomes of these burgeoning movements, shedding light on a topic that's capturing attention and sparking debate across the country.
Tune in to "And Another Thing" for engaging discussions, thought-provoking commentary, and a dash of wit as Jodie and Tony navigate the diverse landscape of Canadian current affairs.
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Introduction and Podcast Details
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Welcome to another episode of And Another Thing, the podcast that continues to set the bar in the world of podcasts. My name is Jody Jenkins. And I'm Tony Clement.
House of Commons Drama: Poliev and Historical Context
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And Tony, I want to assure you right now, it was a boisterous day in Ottawa, but I want to let you know right now that I will not toss you out of this podcast.
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Oh, thank you. Wow. You're, you're being a lot kinder than Speaker Fergus is. It doesn't matter what type of wacko comments you make. You're okay. Yeah. You're okay to stay here. Wacko or extreme. It's, uh, apparently as somebody listed all the people who have said wacko in the house of commons, like in the year, in the year has gone by and there's like a whole list of them. Oh, is it? Oh yeah. Yeah. It's not a new thing then.
00:01:08
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No, no. And they were never tossed out of the House of Commons for calling anybody Wacko until the Speaker did it with the leader of the official opposition. Well, I'm taking it that Speaker Fergus would not be a fan of Joe Flacco for being Wacko for Flacco. Wacko for Flacco, exactly. And some of our listeners may be wondering what we're talking about. Pierre Poliev, leader of the opposition, leader of the Federal Conservative Party was tossed out of
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the house of commons today for making a comment about, I think it was something along the lines of this prime minister's wacko policies or something. And to end this wacko prime minister. That's right. Yeah, he did both. Yeah. Both the policy and the person were wacko. That's true. So, and this is after he was, uh, Trudeau called, uh, uh, Pierre Polly of an extremist.
00:02:03
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in the same election period. And one of the liberal members had been heard shouting that he was a white supremacist, but apparently that's OK. Oh, geez. But Pierre calling the prime minister a wacko is not OK. I saw some of the video clips of that exchange with the speaker and Pierre. And it's it's funny when the when when the speaker gets to the point where he actually names the member, which obviously means you're done. Yeah.
00:02:30
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It was it's like getting in trouble by by like, I don't know, like, you know, like the teacher gets you in trouble because like you could hear everyone's he's like, Mr. Paul, you have he's like, everyone's like, oh, you know, Pierre's in trouble. Yeah, that's right. It's it is. It's something else. But I was in the House of Commons when the prime minister, Justin Trudeau, lost his cool over the opposition tactics of that particular day.
00:02:59
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marched across the aisle, started to manhandle the House leader for the opposition, and then in the process elbowed Ruth Ellen Brasso, who was an NDP MP, in the boobs. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, apparently that's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like almost a mini Donnybrook. Yeah, it was a Donnybrook.
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with our prime minister, our dear, our dear leader. So interesting, interesting times.
Sponsor Acknowledgments and Introductions
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00:03:52
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Trump's Legal Troubles and Political Strategies
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Every Saturday morning at 88.7 FM in Muskoka, you can hear this podcast and many other fine podcasts. I am officially running.
00:05:48
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for president of the United States. It's always good to hear from Donald on our show. He's, he's been very busy in the courts, Jody. I know. I don't know. I can't, I can't keep track of them all now. It's, uh, it's, it's going to be, I know we talk about Donald all the time, but how can you not? I mean, it's like, it's, it's timely, it's relevant and, and, uh,
00:06:13
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I just, I just wonder, I did read an article the other day where, and you might've noticed this, but Biden is trying to kind of go to Donald's level in terms of the insults and the jokes, but not, not going too far. Did you, have you heard about that?
00:06:29
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Well, I guess he was at the White House correspondent's dinner and he took a few shots. Is that what happened? But no, he's doing more and more on the on his at his rallies and on the road as well. OK. White House dinner. Yes, that was one of them. But there there was an article where I read that they are taking their strategy is to to kind of go to Donald's level. But then on the flip side, a lot of the pundits, a lot of political people that are in the know are saying, you know,
00:06:56
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Trump has never lost when you get into a war of words with him. Like there's so many examples of, of individuals that have tried to go that route. It never turns out well. So it'll be interesting to see what happens with the Biden approach, but they gotta be, they gotta be worried because.
00:07:12
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I mean, nothing's sticking in my opinion. Well, and I guess one of their hopes is that he actually gets indicted for something, which could be the result of the Stormy Daniels trial. A very interesting testimony from the head of that reputable newspaper, The National Enquirer. They bought the story about Stormy Daniels to bury the story.
00:07:36
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Oh, really? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They, uh, you know, uh, Hey, we will outbid everybody else for the tell all. And then they'd bury the story as a favor to the Donald. So interesting. Yeah. So I don't know. I, who knows what a jury's jury's going to do with that.
00:07:51
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Um, and then let, let's say, say for the sake of argument, he is indicted. Like he is convicted, I should say. Um, you know, there is polling evidence indicating a lot of independent voters, which is the largest voting block in the United States now, uh, won't, uh, won't back on a person who's been convicted of a crime. And yeah, I don't know. I don't know. But I mean, it's like how,
00:08:17
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There was so, there's so many people that thought he would be in jail by now or he would, his downfall. Like the guy is like Teflon Don, right? He is Teflon Don. So I don't, I don't see anything changing. Yeah. Well, uh, it's a long way to November, my friend. Yeah. Well, and for those keeping track at home, I always like to bring this up. I also said that COVID would only last a couple of days. So putting that out there, putting that out there.
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I was putting it out there. Just in case anyone was getting like, you know, yeah, you know, Jody's right about Trump, but I just want to remind you that I thought COVID was only going to last. It's going to be a common cold. Yeah. Yes, that's right. Jenkins can't be trusted. Well, you know, there's a big election coming up though, Jody, in June.
Mongolian Adventures and Political Climate
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Okay. Which one is that?
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The Mongolian election. Oh yeah, because you just got back from Mongolia. I just got back from Mongolia to speak at a conference. Were you door knocking over there too? I was door knocking every yurt. I actually slept in a yurt for two days. I saw your picture. You were on a camel. I identified the feces of a camel. Yes, yes. What was that like? So what's Mongolia like?
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Well, Ulaanbaatar now, that's the capital, has about a million and a half people in it. So it's really been built up since the Soviet era has ended. So I was staying in a perfectly decent hotel with great food and
00:09:48
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whatnot. And then that was where the conference was, although in the middle of the conference, he'd appreciate this, Jodi. I was sitting beside this woman who was very quiet. And then all of a sudden she just erupted and started yelling at the top of her voice and protesting. And she grabbed a microphone and started saying that everybody's corrupt and they all should all be arrested. And so then people started to handle her away from the conference. And then
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two other people popped up and started doing the same thing. It was quite disruptive. So I thought, boy, oh boy, this reminds me of certain events I've been at back in Canada. So after the conference, which was a conference on democracy, then I took a little bit of an excursion with my hosts down to the South Gobi
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which is the desert region, although they do have mountains and water there. But we stayed in these yurts at the Grand Gobi Resort and then visited the camel herder, which is where he saw me on the on the back of a back tree and camel. And they visited this place where they found a bunch of dinosaur bones like dinosaur eggs. And so they were very proud of that. So, yeah, they're great people, very friendly.
00:11:08
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You know, very industrious and whatnot. There's huge mines there, by the way, which Canada has an interest in. Copper, gold mines and coal mines. There's coal mines there. They ship the coal to China, of course, because, of course, China is so clean. And so there is some good business activity there, I must say.
00:11:30
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Interesting. Loretta Lynn, writer, famous song, Mongolia. I think so. She was a coal miner's Mongolian daughter. You know what's funny? I'll bring up wrestling because I always look for opportunities to talk about wrestling. Every time I think about Mongolia, literally I probably learned more about Mongolia just listening to you now.
00:11:52
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Only thing that I remember about Mongolia or think about Mongolia when it comes up is a wrestler back in the day in WWF named Killer Con, who used to spit green mist in people's faces. And he was billed as being from Mongolia. There you go. The cons. Yeah, exactly. Killer, Killer Con. I went to the Genghis Khan Museum in Ulaanbaatar actually.
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Yeah. Killer Khan was a Japanese professional wrestler born in 1947, died in 2003, a popularly known as Killer Khan. He was built from Mongolia and had numerous high profile matches with Andre the Giant, including, including the eighties, including a high profile Mongolian stretcher match. He also used, he also used Asian mist against his opponents.
00:12:47
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But they're big, they're big into wrestling in Mongolia. No doubt. Yeah. And I think the muttonators said his daughter did some wrestling in Mongolia at some point. Oh, seriously. Yeah. Okay. A former guest of our program. Yes. Well, I mean, at this point, who hasn't been on it? Who hasn't exactly. We're going down to round two now for a lot of our guests. Scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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But yeah, no, it was a good trip and I wish the freedom-loving people of Mongolia the best in their election. Hopefully it will be one where democracy prevails because there is some Kremlin interference going on. So hopefully that does not mean that things are backsliding and that they will have democracy in Mongolia.
00:13:40
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not to be confused with gremlin interference. Yeah, that's even, you know, you, you add water and you don't know what's going to happen, right? Yeah. Do you remember the main gremlin in that, that movie or the name? No. What was it? You don't remember? No.
00:13:57
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I always want to say it was Mowgli, but it's not. No, because they're Mugwai. That's what it was. Mowgli was from the Jungle Book. But what was the name of that? I thought, wasn't it Stripe? Stripe was the bad one. Oh, Gizmo. Yeah, Gizmo.
00:14:20
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I remember, remember those gremlin dolls that they had? Yeah, they were big. I remember we we wanted them when I was that was like a meal in 1984 is when gremlins came out. OK, yeah. So you were about 40 something and I was eight. OK, just kidding.
00:14:38
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But yeah, no, but I remember they did have the one of my one of my kids was big into those gremlin dolls you put the batteries in and they'd oh Yeah, it's kind of creepy, but they'd save sounds and move around a little bit Do you remember do you speaking of toys because we're talking about toys now, but do you remember? Maybe you wouldn't because unless your kids were into it, but there was I remember when robots
00:15:02
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were a new thing. They started to become toys that kids would get. In the 80s, people were talking about robots are going to do stuff for us down the road and all this stuff. But there was a line of toys from Tomy. One of them was called Hootbot. Do you remember that one? It was an owl that looked like a robotic owl. And it literally
00:15:24
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Like it did nothing. It flapped its wings. It made a little hooting sound and then rolled on these wheels. But it was like, you know, when I I remember getting it, I wanted it so bad for Christmas. And I thought I have my own robot. Right. But it was like the farthest thing from an actual robot. Yeah. Yeah. It was just batteries had to be included. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who bought. I can't remember what the other lineup of toys was. But I mean, if I looked into it like who bought by Tomi,
00:15:53
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But you don't remember that then? No, no, that one, that one escaped me. But, uh, I used to have a lot of wind up toys that my kids liked. So I had a wind up Godzilla and a wind up King Kong. Those kinds of things. Wow. That's good. Let's go. Was it like, were they like 10? No, these ones were plastic, but the 10 one that's from the fifties.
00:16:13
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I know what you're doing here. You had a million. No, what was it? The what was the name of that guy? Oh, my gosh. I don't see. I don't even know. But I just remember everyone talked about the not the million dollar man. But what was the name of that show? Six million dollar six million dollar. Steve Austin. Steve. That was his name. Steve Austin. Yeah. A man barely alive. I could turn that into a wrestling discussion, too. But I'm not going to go there. I'm not going to go there. I do want to chat quickly because well, not quickly, but
00:16:43
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It's it's timely in that and it's getting a lot of air time and you're like to
Controversial University Protests: Implications Discussion
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get your thoughts. Of course, that's about the encampments that are popping up. I think it started at McGill. And now, you know, it's the you know, the pro Palestine supporters, the individuals that don't seem to want to denounce Hamas in any way now and
00:17:08
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There's a lot of universities and schools that are making moves now to ensure that it doesn't spread to their campuses. So what are your, what are your thoughts? And I know we talked a little bit off, off air before we came on here. I personally think this has the makings of getting really ugly really quick. Cause I could totally see clashes with police and whatnot, but I don't know.
00:17:30
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Well, I mean, I I think it's terrible that it's happening. I don't I, of course, agree with the right to dissent and the right to protest. But I think this has gone far beyond that. It's you're talking about, you know, this is hate speech. And it's very interesting, like everybody in Canada, you're going to draw the the the connection to the convoy. You know, why is one good and one bad? Right. But my point of view is if if you're
00:17:59
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if you're occupying buildings, which is what they're doing at Columbia University now, barricading themselves in, that's clearly illegal. And if part of your message is supporting a terrorist group, which is defined, they're defined in Canada and the US as a terrorist group, Hamas I'm talking about, and by extension Hezbollah and
00:18:27
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the Iranian guards and so on. They're all terrorist groups. So you're basically supporting their ends, which are to destroy Israel and to destroy the Jewish race. It's quite clear. So I I don't think that's acceptable. I don't want to see any violence if it can be avoided. But I also believe that these students are being manipulated. They don't know the full story.
00:18:55
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They just get their headlines from a couple of videos on TikTok. And now I believe in Columbia and perhaps in other campuses as well. I'm sure the whole protest movement has been taken over by professional agitators.
00:19:10
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who don't care about the students even less than they care about Jewish people or the right to protest or any of these things. They're just there to make trouble and they're actually going to provoke violence, which is kind of sad really.
00:19:27
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So yeah, I'm a hard line on this. Jodi, I'll be honest with you. I think this is terrible. It has nothing to do. Everybody's conflating it with, well, when we were protesting civil rights in Vietnam in the 60s, well, yeah, those were about rights.
00:19:42
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Yeah. And, you know, about ending violence against black people or ending violence in Vietnam. This this is about driving Jewish people into the sea because you don't agree with the Jewish state. And I think that's a very different matter. Yeah, this whole thing is is certainly it's certainly not done. And like you said, I mean, obviously, I do not do not want to see any violence. I I'm hopeful that, you know, if it gets to a point where
00:20:13
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Things get a little more tense, cooler heads can prevail, but I also could see this going further than it needs to go. It's already gone further than it needs to go for sure, but it'll be interesting to see how other schools react.
00:20:29
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proactive about making sure this doesn't become entrenched on their campuses. Well, my alma mater sent out, as University of Toronto, and they sent out a message very clearly saying any encampment is a trespass and we won't allow it. Oh, there you go. Yeah. So schools are already making, they're putting the messaging out early so they have everything in a row, like ducks in a row, so they're able to do that. Not to make light of this, but it reminds me of someone posted something and it was a skit on the SNL that I saw a long time ago as well. Do you know which one I'm talking about?
00:20:59
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No. Oh, so there was a skit where the dad's dropping off the daughter at what appears to be like you're either going to university, right? They pull up to this building and the dramatic music and, and the dad's like, uh, you know, I'm proud of you. She's like, thanks dad. And then he turns, he's like, Hey, you know,
00:21:18
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You know, you could always just stay at home. You know, you don't have to go. She's like, dad. And he gets out. She gets out. And he's like, he's like, she goes, she looks back in the car. She's like, dad, it's only ISIS. And then she gets in the back of an ISIS vehicle. Seriously? And then it's a guy with a big machine gun. And the dad looks at him and goes, you take care of her. Then they start firing off the machine gun and driving off.
00:21:47
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Bill Maher had a line last week where he said about these kids with their occupation tents in the quad and he said they better hold on to those tents because they're going to need them after graduation. Yeah, but it's true. You get individuals that use and manipulate individuals into thinking, this is what you need to do and then they're the masterminds and they're the ones that are actually pulling all the strings and
00:22:17
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It's it's I don't know. I do not know. We'll see what we'll see what happens.
Toronto Maple Leafs and Blue Jays: Sports Critique
00:22:25
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But anyway, I got I got nothing else, man. I'm I'm tapped out. We're working hard here. Can I add, we don't know when we're when we're recording this, what the fate of the Toronto Maple Leafs is going to be, do we? Well, I mean, it's clear.
00:22:43
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They're not going to win, but I mean, we don't know. I mean, a game could be over now for all I know. No, it's not. Can I just say something about the reaction of Leaf fans to game four was classic Leaf's Nation? 100%. Leaf fans are the most
00:23:06
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I can't even explain it. Like I'm a hardcore Cleveland Browns fan. I know you're a hardcore Canadians fan, but Leaf fans are like, I don't know. It's like a whole other level.
00:23:18
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They tore, they tore their team apart before the series is over. We're already speculating on the new coach and how they're going to trade Marner. And I'm going, Oh my gosh, guys. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it is wild. It's even wild to watch the pundits and commentators talk about it too. Like, especially the homers, the ones that are like Toronto, Toronto commentary, because they're doing the same thing. Like they, they ripped Toronto, a new one at that last game and
00:23:46
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I mean, it was again, I again, I'm not I'm not a leaf fan. I'm not invested in it. So, you know, maybe that's why I'd whatever. I mean, obviously, but I mean, even with the Browns, I sure I mean, I get frustrated, but I've I've I've actually never been one to say blow up the whole team. I always try and have a positive outlook on things. But well, and and of course, we have other Canadian teams in the playoffs. I think we have to make that point clear. And I think the the Jets are
00:24:15
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on the brink, perhaps. They are. Vancouver had a heck of a comeback against Nashville the other night. That was kind of, that was interesting. And the Oilers are being the Oilers, which is great, entertaining hockey besides. So there are other things to cheer for in Canada in terms of the Canadian teams. And of course, some great Canadian players playing on the US teams as well. So there's plenty of action to watch on NHL hockey with or without the Leafs as far as I'm concerned.
00:24:43
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Yeah, no, it's, uh, it's going to be an interesting, it's going to be an interesting playoffs. Again, I, this is kind of when I was start watching hockey. And, um, I will say though, speaking of sports, like I will say, I know I didn't, I said I didn't have much more to say, but I will say the Toronto Blue Jays are frustrating me to no end. It's, uh, I follow them quite closely. No, they just can't hit like it's a great pitching.
00:25:07
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Yeah, but you know, you can't, you can't win games when you're only scoring one run, two runs, you know, it's just three runs. It's not, you just can't do it. And, uh, you know, I'm pretty sure again, we're recording this on an evening in an evening, but I just quickly look like I'm pretty sure they lost the night too.
00:25:27
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Oh, gosh. And they lost to Kansas City, but they lost that series. They lost the Dodger. They lost. They lost 4-1. Barrios pitched seven innings, gave up, gave up two earned runs. We had a heck of a game. Yeah. Left when it was 2-1 in the eighth. And then the Kansas City gets two more runs. Yeah. Like it's just ridiculous. Yeah. Blow the whole team on. No, no, no. Wear a paper bag over your head. Yeah.
00:25:55
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But, you know, that's the one thing about, of course, as you mentioned, I'm a Habs fan in hockey terms and, you know, they're they didn't make the playoffs. They're in the basement of their division.
00:26:06
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But Montreal fans are surprisingly being quite patient and we're rebuilding. We've got some things that we're proud of, Suzuki and Slavkowski and Caufield and so on. So there are things that we can hang on to and say, okay, it's not there yet, but we've got some young talent that is coming along.
00:26:29
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And so we'll be patient so that that's I think where you got to be. But the problem with Leafs fans is their expectations every season are so sky high. They do relatively well on the regular season, but every time, you know, they're they're not built for the playoffs the way that other teams are and and can't compete. No, I mean, they've got all the talent in the world. There's no denying that. But the problem is, I think it's twofold. I don't think they play as a team when it matters.
00:26:59
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And I do, they don't get dirty enough. Like they're, they're not, you know, you look at a team like Boston and you know, everyone likes to point the finger at Marchand and a Marchand or whatever you want to call him and just say that he's such a dirty player, but you know what? He's a, he's a game changer. Right. He's an impact player without scoring goals. And like that Toronto doesn't do that stuff well.
00:27:20
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And it's evident because they're about to lose probably four games to one. Um, I don't, again, I don't know. It looks like it's going into overtime. Actually, we're taping this as the game is progressing. I should just put it on the game. We'll do a live play. We are played by play. Yeah. So who knows by the time this comes out, we, they might've won. They might've lost who knows, but we'll put it, we'll put it in the notes.
Upcoming Podcast Guests and Farewell
00:27:42
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Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, that's, uh, yeah, that's all we got for tonight. We've got some guests coming up. We've got some guests coming folks. Don't worry. Uh, it's just cause I was away in Mongolia. Uh, it was hard to line up guests, but we, we are lining up some guests and we're going to be excited about who's coming on in the next few weeks. All right. Well, thanks again to our main sponsor each week, the team at municipal solutions. We can't thank them enough for being a part of this show.
00:28:10
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Make sure you check them out at municipalsolutions.ca. And then, of course, Tony, you can thank our other partners. I will, of course. KWM Consulting, Kelly Mitchell, kwmconsulting.com. They are there for you as well. And 88.7, The Bay. Awesome. Well, enjoy the rest of your week. We will do this again in seven days. Yes, sir. I'm looking forward to it.