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Meet Nate Mayes – actor, artist, writer, and producer
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Nate Mayes is an actor, artist, writer and producer who grew-up in Arkansas before moving to Hollywood to pursue his artistic ambitions.
The Wall Street Times have described Nate as “gradually establishing himself as an up-and-coming talent in Hollywood”.
In this episode of Rest and Recreation, the work life balance podcast from Abeceder Nate tells host Michael Millward about his varied work, his career strategy and how he spends his free time.
Michael compares the acting work that Nate has done with the work of actors like Brad Pitt and Richard Gere.
Their discussion covers everything from parental influence on career choices, to a comparison of different aspects of life in Arkansas, and Hollywood.
During their conversation Nate and Michael also touch on the joys of boondocking
You can find more information about Nate Mayes and Michael Millward at Abeceder.co.uk.
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Introduction to Rest and Recreation Podcast with Zencastr
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on zencastr Hello and welcome to Rest and Recreation, the work-life balance podcast from Abysida. I'm your host, Michael Middleward, the Managing Director of Abysida.
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Today, i am talking to the actor and artist, Nate Mays, about what do you do for leisure time when you've been lucky enough to turn your hobby into your job?
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One that will be well worth listening to, liking, downloading and subscribing to. As with every
Meet Nate Mays: Hollywood Career and Southern Charm
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episode of Rest and Recreation, we will not be telling you what to think, but we are hoping to make you think.
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Today's Rest and Recreation guest is Nate Mayes. Nate has been described by the Wall Street Times as a Los Angeles-based actor, writer and producer who is gradually establishing himself as an up-and-coming talent in Hollywood.
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Nate has, says the Wall Street Times, a unique blend of Southern charm, quiet intensity and a rugged, often dangerous edge to his work. This could mean that he could play a villain in one of the new Bond films, someone who smiles politely as he ties James Bond to a bandsaw.
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I may have come up with a great idea there. Maybe I should get an agent. Nate
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hails from small town Arkansas. I have never been to Arkansas. If I do visit, I will make my travel arrangements with the Ultimate Travel Club because that is where I can access trade prices on flights, hotels, trains, holidays, and all sorts of other travel-related purchases.
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You can do the same thing by joining the Ultimate Travel Club. And not surprisingly, there is a link with a discount code in the description. Now that I have paid some bills, it is time to make an episode of Rest and Recreation.
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It is
Nate's Move from Arkansas to Hollywood
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great for me to be able to say hello, Nate Mays. Hi. Hi, Michael. Thank you so much for having me. I'm very excited about this podcast. Thank you very much. I'm looking forward to this.
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You are my first Hollywood actor to that's been a guest on Rest and Recreation. So i'm I'm a little bit nervous, to be honest, but um we'll see we'll see how it goes.
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Well, I am honored. Wow. Thank you very much. Thank you. I've been looking into your career as well. You've moved from small town, Arkansas to Hollywood. It's quite a journey to make and you've made it at quite a young age as well.
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And it reminded me of the one that I've read about another actor making from Oklahoma, Mr. Brad Pitt. I mentioned Mr. Pitt because like him, you seem to be making films in which you play a wide range of different characters.
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In 2024, it's quite amazing. You've gone from playing a high school football player to playing a detective, to playing a cowboy, and then playing a gigolo as well. So maybe I shouldn't be comparing you with Brad Pitt. Maybe I should be comparing you with Richard Gere.
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Or maybe we'll let you so like drive your own path. But it sounds like you are at the demonstrate your range stage of your career. Yes, absolutely. i
Career Advice and Personal Values in Acting
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mean, wow, being compared to Brad Pitt, i i i just got a lot of smoke blown at me, but I love it.
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I love it. um You know, i am in the early stages of my career and I've been very fortunate to have people kind of give me really sage advice and and tell me, um you know, how to kind of pave my career path. And I think it's so important that I figured that out in the early stages, you know, because just knowing that I have the opportunity to carve my career how I want it, which in l LA, you know, everyone is trying to pull you in their own direction and you have to really keep the path narrow and and find, choose roles, choose projects that fit with you, that align with with you and and your values, ah you know, and your passion. And so I've been able to do that thus far.
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um And i'm I'm very proud of my work thus far. you know like I'm not afraid to say I'm pretty green because it's true and I'm proud of the work I've done so far. so So yeah, I'm excited to to see what comes next.
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Yeah, I enjoyed watching the films that I've seen so far online. And my comparisons are more about strategy rather than anything else. It's like, I know, because I'm a bit of a fan of Mr. Pitt, that we're the same height.
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yeah Wonderful. that rather That's where the similarity ends. But ah it's interesting as an HR person who thinks about recruitment and succession planning and career planning to look at how he has planned his career in going from the pinup type roles into much more serious roles and showing his range. And you can see that across the range films that he has made.
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And when I looked at the films the the short films that you've made in 2024, it just struck me that you are doing exactly the same thing in terms of showing that you can play someone who is very young and the ah as a high school football player and then play some quite serious ah roles as well.
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And the ability to be menacing did jump out of yeah of the screen a little bit when I was watching one of them. But it's interesting to see and to be talking to you at this stage of your career because there are so many different opportunities that are available. So you are a very busy man.
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The other thing that you're involved with a lot, though, is this being an artist and being a specific type of artist, that a muralist. You paint murals.
Mural Painting vs. Canvas Painting
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I do. Yeah, it's my favorite thing to paint.
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to do one of them for sure. it's um So I am an oil painter as well. I paint just, I can paint just about anything, but the reason I like to call myself a muralist is that's kind of just the the category that I've fallen into and the one that I enjoy the most. you know if if I'm going to take time out of my day, whether it's just for me or for a client, a commission,
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I have really enjoyed painting like a large scale mural. And the more I do that, the less I do, you know, canvases, which, you know, so much respect for for any type of artist. My dad's a professional portrait painter and he's he's an oil painter on canvas, but he got me into mural, to murals. and I'm like, man, this is just so, it's so fun. It's you have such a ah huge, you know, playground, I call it to work with.
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And so, yes, I specialize in spray paint um murals, specifically ah portrait murals. and And that's just fun. I always have a blast. I mean, it's it's it's um it's something that might be intimidating for me to approach, but once you get going, it's it's very freeing for me.
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Yeah, I've seen online some of the pictures, the murals at the Powerhouse Gym, which really, they're almost 3D. I think when you look at them on online, there's a lot of skill and talent going into them. so you are a talented young man.
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Thank you. And a very busy young man as well. I try. What are you working on at the
Acting in a Western Short Film
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moment? At the moment, I have Taking a step back from mural work, they kind of come and go. I don't really plan on them. The universe just kind of puts them in my space.
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But ah right now i'm I'm working on a short film with um a group of like-minded, ah very talented um friends in the in the film space. And we are just producing yeah us a Western short film.
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And I'm playing kind of the outlaw in the film. So very excited for that. So the bad boy, the bad boy. Yeah. Yeah. I play the good, the good characters a lot. I think that's what I get casted as um the most.
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And i just, you know, my first ever role was Gaston in beauty and the beast theater, theater show, the play. And man, I loved it. It was so foreign to me. And that's really when I found my passion. I was actually, I,
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I contacted a ah virus in high school, which completely shut down all the sports I was doing, football, wrestling, track and field for a while. And I just became a thespian. And I'm like, this is better than any sports ah game I've ever played. i didn't want to tell my coach that, but I'm like, man, like this is it.
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And so, yeah, the villain is kind of nostalgic for me in a way. And I really just like kind of going against my my stereotype, I guess you could say. What's the stereotype?
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I guess I would be the wrong person to ask. What's my stereotype? um ah Probably ah lover boy, um you know, Hallmark guy, which nus I would love to play in a Hallmark. Don't get me wrong.
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um But yeah, lover boy, a guy next door. The all-American guy. The all-American boy. The all-American guy, which I, again, I'm very happy to take on those roles, but it's also just fun for me to be more expressive with with things that I would choose first.
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It's almost playing the bad people. i suppose you mean is roles that challenge you. Exactly, exactly.
Leisure Time in Nature
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Being busy, ah I suspect that leisure time is not in abundance, so it's probably very valuable to you. Extremely, yeah.
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What sort of things do you get up to when you're not on a film set or painting a mural? When I have a ah free weekend, Nine out of 10 times I go to the woods.
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I love California, not because of the city. The city brings opportunity and the city is very fun. ah But I really love California because I can drive two, three, four hours and end up in national park, a different national park every weekend. And so that's definitely, you know, it's funny because it's there's not a lot of relaxing, you know, not a lot of leisure and going to, uh, going camping, you know, you're sleeping in a tent, but for me, it it really, um, it, it calms my soul in a way. And it really gives me an outlet to just, just relax. Um, maybe not in a physical way, but maybe like more of an emotional, spiritual way. And, um, just spend time in nature away from, away from people. Yeah.
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Yeah. Camping by yourself in a national park in in North America? Oh, well I do camp with friends, but I also do camp alone. it kind of depends on, well, if no one's available, I'm like, well, I'm still going camping.
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um So I do enjoy spending time by myself, but also, you know, I have ah have a ah girlfriend and I have friends and and so whoever's available, you know. We go off camping. Great stuff.
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the reason why i mentioned that is that ah when i was working in canada some colleagues said to me we're going out to our cottage by the lake would you like to come i said yes why not you know thinking cottage lake that'll be all right and uh we drove out of the city like you're saying we drove like probably about an hour Then we just turned off the road. There was no signpost. There was no nothing.
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We just turned off the road and we were driving through a forest. And then all of a sudden turned a corner and there was a lake and we spent, you know, nice evening there.
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But within about 10 minutes of being there, I felt really uncomfortable. Yeah. And I felt really uncomfortable because it was so quiet.
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e We were like, there was no road noise. There was no noise of other people. All we'd got was the expanse of the lake and animals.
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And it was very, very different to life in the city. And it took me a good while too to acclimatize into that type of environment. And once I did,
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All of the, i suppose you could call it the nerves of being in an alien environment were replaced by this sort of like, I am not the most important thing in this space.
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Hmm. Yeah. know These trees have been here for a lot longer than me. The hills have ah been here for a lot longer than the trees and the lake has been here forever. And just brings everything down, doesn't it? To sort of like some sort of base level where you really get in contact with nature and with yourself.
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Yeah, absolutely. and that's a really beautiful way of, of, of saying that. I think, just just exactly what you said, you know, it keeps the ego in check, which I think is is really important in all walks of life, especially if you work, if you're if what what you do is all determined by how people see you, you know, behind the camera.
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um And so I really, i do try to keep the ego in check and and being in nature is yeah, you're you're you're alone, you know, you're not you're kind of, you're just taking time for yourself.
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You know, it's it's it's not for anyone else, but but you. um Of course, I know, you know, a lot of people like to post, you know, and put it on, share on social media, which is which is completely fine. but um But really taking time to just get to know yourself and and respecting the beautiful, you know, nature around you is um yeah, like I said, it feeds my soul for sure.
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Yeah, because you grew up in the countryside. I did. Yeah, that's another thing. It gives me a lot of nostalgia. it kind of brings me back to to home. um Growing up in Arkansas, a lot of people diss on Arkansas if they if they're not outdoorsy people.
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If you're an outdoorsman, then Arkansas is amazing because it's just so beautiful. And there's there's caves and caverns and mountains and and and rivers, the most beautiful rivers I've actually found in the U.S. And I've been to a lot of different states.
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Um, so yeah, I, I did a lot of outdoor stuff, um, growing up and, you know, i moved out to the big city and, and, uh, I gotta, I gotta to get back to nature every chance I get. Yeah.
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So it's something from your childhood, your teenage years, and that becomes the thing that you can of like reset back in nature.
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Absolutely. yeah Yeah. And the wild camping, is it wild camping or are you camping on campsites? Cause I know there are rules in national parks, aren't there? We call it boondocking, which I think is what you, I don't know how they, what they say in the UK, but yeah, we, it's a funny word I like to use, but it's boondocking. It's, it's exactly what you said, driving through the woods, pulling over on the side of a road or doesn't even have to be a road.
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Normally it's a national forest, so it's, it's completely legal. And, um and yeah, you just set up camp right there. It could be a spot that you didn't even plan on going no reservation, no picnic table.
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just, just out in the middle of ah nowhere.
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does sound like a lot of fun, but so very different to life. That's Monday to Friday. Yeah, that's definitely, definitely. Because I know from your various different socials that you've been in the films, you're painting the murals, you're doing some modeling, you're a personal trainer, yeah you've got a life to live as well.
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How do you get the type of work that
Securing Acting Roles
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you get? Is it through agents or is it like with the film that you're making moment at the moment, just working with friends? um All of the above. Yeah, I'd say you know most of the paid ah work that I get, ah it's mostly commercials right now and they're nine out of 10 times they're from my agency.
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i do self-submit on my own, but my agents are always, ah they have more connections and they're able to find the right roles for me. So yeah, I have to pay a lot of, give a lot of credit to my my agent and my manager um who have really, really helped me navigate the industry and continue to do so. But other than that, I'll self-submit.
00:17:16
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I'll make projects on my own, send it off to to people. Hopefully someone would see it at a film festival, things like that. You're introducing yourself to people, other the people are introducing your set you to filmmakers, commercial makers, directors.
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They know about you, but they may not actually remember to use you or have the right project for you for quite a while. It's about maintaining those networks, which is all about being visible, being someone who people say, oh, he's done this, he's done that, maybe he might be who may aren right for this project.
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And yet the way in which you relax is to sort of remove yourself completely from that world. Yes. Yes, absolutely. I think coming face to face with someone makes a huge difference, you know, shaking hands, even though we live in this kind of digital age, social media is huge and very, very helpful, especially in my industry at the same time, like going to festivals and, and these networking events and shaking hands with people,
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um goes a long way. People remember you you know with the face-to-face interaction. so so so yeah, I always try to do that. Even if I really don't want to, it's a Friday night, I'm like, oh, I have a networking of event.
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Sometimes it's just part of the job. Part of the job is a good way of thinking about it, especially if you're then also talking about going off and um camping and being out in the in the big, wide world that is America. One the things in the UK is our country is very much smaller than yours.
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And your horizons are much bigger than ours because of the the wide open spaces. ah to One of the things that i read about you and on the internet is that you have a diverse set of skills.
Expressing Creativity Across Media
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And this reflects your belief that creativity is about exploring new ways to express yourself. That's about your artistic work. So the painting, the acting.
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The article talked about how you're expressing your belief that creativity is not sort saying I am this or I am that. It's about being able to to look at work being creative regardless of which medium or which technique you are using. So you can paint murals. That's your favorite. But you can also paint a canvas too.
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You're an actor, but you're also a producer. And the production part is that you are looking at every role within the film and what the film looks like and where it's going to be shot and everything about it, how it's going to be financed.
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Or if you're just the actor, says just the actor, you're just focused on one particular aspect of the film. Everything that you do work-wise seems to be about expanding and variety and difference. And like you said, not being the stereotype Midwestern football player type of character.
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When was the last time you did something different away from work? Yeah, I believe in leading with the heart for sure.
Following Passion and Kindness
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um You know, my mom leaned heavily on that.
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growing up, you know, I didn't, I fortunately I didn't, well, I don't know if this is fortunately, actually, I didn't have a parent telling me like, you need to be a doctor. You need to be a lawyer. You need to make money. You know, um, I'm sure that's very sage advice for a lot of people. Um, for me, you know, my mom was like, ah, just, just do what makes you happy.
00:20:38
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Just leave with the heart. And, uh, and it's funny. That's, you know, that's, that's, gained me a lot of joy, a lot of fulfillment in life. Um, even though it's a really, it can be a very hard yeah and, and, and struggle, uh, struggling, life sometimes, you know? um but I've, I've learned, yeah, with everything I do kind of bringing a creative approach into it, just, just gives me more joy and it, it allows me to keep my mental clarity and my mental, um, health in check.
00:21:10
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um and really just just enjoy what I'm doing, whether I'm making money or whether I'm just taking time for myself and my hobbies. But yeah, just just leading with the heart.
00:21:21
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you know I mean, try to, I think being kind goes a long way too you know and in whatever business you're in, just just you know like getting to know the people you're working with. And and when we're all doing doing that same thing of just leading with the heart,
00:21:40
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and trying to to bring each other up, you know, and not just working for yourself, but working as a as a community, um if that makes sense, I think that goes a long way.
00:21:52
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It makes an awful lot of sense. It's almost like yeah you have to treat people in the way that you yourself want to be treated. So none of us want to be bullied or insulted. So it's about being kind to other people before they're kind to us.
00:22:06
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think the expression is pay it forward. But also doing things collectively rather than focusing on yourself as the individual. What can you do to make someone else's day?
00:22:18
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yeah is a good way to sort of like start the day. What am I going to do to make somebody else glad that they bumped into me, glad that they're working with me, glad that we've been standing in a queue or as an American would say, standing in line next to each other.
00:22:35
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How can I make someone's day just through the little things that I do make their day a little bit better? And it makes your day better, you know, and in return. it's Yeah, paying it forward.
00:22:47
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um That was a big wake up call for me um because, you know, i will be honest, like in Arkansas, um it's a southern state and, you know, people can say what they want about the South. But one thing that you really can't argue with is people in the South are very kind. They're very family oriented.
00:23:09
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for the most part, you know, there's there's crazy people everywhere. There's good people everywhere. um But yes, but one of the things is that you never hear someone described as a Northern gentleman, but you do hear people described as a Southern gentleman.
00:23:23
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That's very true. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, coming from. but It's the opposite way around in the yeah UK. We have Northern gentlemen, but here's Southern because I'm from the North of England. So I'm going to say that way. But yeah, you hear people described as Southern gentlemen, right but not as Northern gentlemen. There is a culture of politeness and manners and kindness in the South. There is. Yeah. it's It's funny. I brought a lot of those manners with me. I still have them.
00:23:54
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I don't use them as much as I did when I first got here. Cause I actually, i like, I would be at whole foods checking out and I would say, thank you, ma'am. And, and I actually got scolded a couple of times. Like people would say, don't, don't call me that ah because I guess it, the the they thought I was like calling them old or like, like an elderly person. So ah yeah, it's a weird, it was a weird culture shock. So, you know, it's, it's,
00:24:22
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ah LA is a wonderful place and there's a lot of wonderful people, but it is, there's also this kind of suffocating atmosphere.
Maintaining Southern Values in LA
00:24:30
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a lot of times of everyone is working hard to really accomplish something for themselves. And so, like I said, there are great people here that I've run into, but also it's, it can be a very selfish minded place because everyone's just working so hard trying to get to the top of the the mountain, you know?
00:24:51
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And so um so, yeah, I have to kind of constantly remind myself to stay in check with ah with with my values, you know, and my past. I can see how it all fits together in that, yeah, you're a creative person and you express your creativity in a wide range of different ways.
00:25:08
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And you've got the talents to be able to do that. You're also a very grounded person, but you can exist within ah very hectic, very commercial type of environment and are doing very well in that environment.
00:25:24
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But you've also got the common sense to be able to say, you I'm going to go back to my roots, so to speak, and get out into nature and reground myself in that sort of way. And that sort of creates the balance between work and life, I suppose.
00:25:41
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Yeah, I think you're right. And yeah, I hope you're you're you're spot on with that because um I've had to learn like, you you know when When someone says like grounding yourself, it sounds like kind of woo-woo, but but it's not that it doesn't yeah it doesn't sound that way to me anymore once I really realize the importance of it, grounding yourself. you know You can take that very literally, like walking outside barefoot and absorbing the energy from the earth, which... you know i think it's cool.
00:26:11
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It's a subconscious thing, isn't it? Yeah. You don't actually realize that that is happening until you think and like something has happened. Oh, I'm walking barefoot. And then you realize that that simple activity can change your mood. Yeah. Just giving yourself a brain break.
00:26:29
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You know, of like unplugging from him from technology and your your your work that you're working so hard at and just just being present. This is super like, hey, I'm just a human being trying to make it in this world, playing this silly game. um Yeah. Like just giving yourself a brain break.
00:26:47
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Yeah, it sounds like a ah great strategy. I wish you a lot of luck with it. And I look forward to seeing more of you on screen. And when that happens, you will be hearing me saying like I spoke to him.
00:27:01
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ah cool
00:27:04
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I'm sure your agent who introduced us will ah make sure that I'm kept up to date with with what is happening. But for today, Nate, it has been great fun. I've really enjoyed it. And thank you so much for your time. It's been great.
00:27:18
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Thank you so much, Michael. Yeah, this podcast is is such a joy and I can't wait to pass it along to others. I mean, there needs to be more conversations about just taking it easy, you know, and and making sure you're you're mentally in check. So I love what you're doing. Thank you.
00:27:33
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Thank you very much. I am Michael Millward, the Managing Director of Abucida. In this episode of Rest and Recreation, I have been having a conversation with the up-and-coming talent, Nate Mays.
00:27:47
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You can find out more about both of us at abucida.co.uk. There is a link in the description, and there are also direct links to Nate's various different social media accounts.
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The list goes on. The annual health test is conducted by an experienced phlebotomist who will complete a full blood draw at your home or workplace. Hospital standard tests are carried out in a UKAS accredited and CQC compliant laboratory.
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You can access your easy to understand results and guidance to help you make effective lifestyle changes anytime via your secure personal wellness hub account. There is, no surprise here, a link and a discount code in the description.
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Until the next episode of Rest and Recreation, thank you for listening and goodbye.