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Media Diets are In: Part II
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Kiley and Nan continue the conversation on how to be mindful of the media you ingest each day. How do you navigate information that is triggering? When faced with a buffet of information, it is vital to use discernment as your guide to create a media menu that best feeds your soul.
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Introduction to Everyday Mindful Podcast
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Speaker
Hi, I'm Kylie Wyn Efron. And I'm Nan Cavanaugh, and welcome to Everyday Mindful, a space for real talk on weaving the magic of mindfulness into our daily lives. Let's dig in. Hey, Kylie. Hey, Nan, how are you? Good, how are you doing?
00:00:37
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I'm doing great. I'm excited to be back with you this week. My favorite person to chat with. You too. You too.
Navigating the Media During Election Season
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I'm glad to pick up where we left off on talking about how to have a healthy media diet this year in particular as we engage in a pretty dramatic election season here in America.
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Well, last week we left off, we were talking about like the role of the 24-hour news cycle. And I think both you and I were in agreement that we're both kind of expressing our concerns about the impact that cable news has and having really opinion-based news present all the time. And you mentioned that you had found a great news source that you found was really neutral. Would you mind sharing that? I'm curious myself.
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Sure, it's called the Courier, C-O-U-R-I-E-R, at Courier Newsroom on Instagram.
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And it is founded by a woman who is a professional, you know, highly regarded journalist. And it's really focused on providing very clear content to ingest. I think it's something to note right now, unfortunately,
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There's this kind of mindset about news, that all news is biased in some way, but it's honestly not. It's very hard, particularly thinking when you're sharing news about American politics, when you just share the facts of what's going on, it feels biased because it's so crazy, for lack of a better word. There's so much
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The facts really show a lot of very intense, negative, manipulative. The facts speak for themselves, but what they speak almost feels biased because there is one political party. I'm just putting it out there and I don't want to get into politics here, but the Republican party is really
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operating very differently from any political party in the history of America right now. And I think when you engage with news related to the election cycle, sometimes you feel like you're hearing something biased because the facts are so wild.
Engaging Neutrally with Biased Media
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And so I think it's challenging right now for us as we engage with media to
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not get stirred up even when we are reading something or listening to something that is neutral. It is neutral reporting, but it doesn't feel neutral because
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there's so much going on that's not neutral at all, if that makes sense. Well, there is. And it's a complex conversation because I think people also have questions about the content of where those facts are coming from. And I think it can be very complicated. And I think that for a lot of people, too, is they've
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They feel like that bias is taking place on both sides. Both sides of the party are kind of projecting their own facts, their own bias, their own kind of interpretation of what's taken place. And I think, and if nothing else, sometimes I think it's just the repetitiveness in which you're hearing a story over and over and over again.
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and how that starts to shape us. So for me, it comes back to, and I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying per se, what it comes back to is once again discernment, is really feeling within your gut. What you are hearing, does it feel true and does it ring true to you? And being able to also be able to hear something that, you know, maybe it's even, you know, a reflection on the particular party that you are affiliated with and that
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making sure that we're not negating and ignoring information because it doesn't register with us or because we don't like what we're hearing. And I think that's really important as well too, because I think that sometimes I just think that discernment is incredibly important because I do think that we are at a time where so much of the information
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the words that people use to report can shape and alter the way in which we receive something, even if there's facts involved within that. And so that's where I think it gets a little tricky. And I have found, you know, cause I have found myself become, you know, I mean, you know me, I used to be a diehard liberal. I still am liberal in many things, but what I have found is I've once again found myself moving more and more to the middle.
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because I think that there is more common ground than there is not. But because there is so much divisiveness and so much polarization that we have a hard time being able to acknowledge and see that common ground, even when it's presented to us.
Mindful News Consumption Strategies
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So I've had to really exercise, regardless of where I'm hearing the information from, like putting my bias down and just hearing and receiving and going, huh,
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does that feel or ring true to me? Like how is that making me feel? And I also think it's really important because like you said, you can find a reparable news source, let's say it's just in print. I actually read somebody who mentioned this, who's actually a political writer. And they said, you know, they had to be very careful about how much they were absorbing so that they could report in a very neutral way. And one of the ways that they did that was to not let themselves be absorbed within it. So if you are watching like
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maybe even listening to the news every single day. Maybe you're listening to the news in the morning and the evening. Maybe it's on full cycle throughout the majority of the night or in the background. I don't care how bi, I don't care how neutral you are. You won't be neutral very long if you're hearing that in the background. And I think that it's also, regardless of how it sways your opinion, it's anxiety inducing.
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I think the feeling that if you sit down, you know, we used to watch the evening news why we would eat. And I started to realize the majority of it was just anxiety. There are a million things that happen in the world that are good that could be reported on, but none of that, except for the one story at the end that they stick in and are like, here's your feel good story. It's like, well, you just left me with like,
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the most terrifying hour of my life and you're going to throw in a feel good story at the end. And so I do think, you know, the tone and the sensation that I am having when I am watching that is not helpful. It's not making me produce, it's not making me jump into any action, into any activism. It's actually kind of halting me.
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It's making me feel paralyzed with fear about what's happening. It is projecting an attitude of the pure negativity within our world. And also I found that like, especially when I'm eating, you are literally ingesting it. So as what you're listening to, the conversations you're having as you are putting food in your mouth,
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On a spiritual level, you are ingesting that. It is going within your body. It affects it. That's the reason why prayer affects food. The reason why we pray over food is it helps raise the frequency of the food. So if that is what you're listening to when you are ingesting something, you're consuming that like on an even deeper level.
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But what this other person suggested is maybe your news consumption is once it's once a week Maybe it's once a day for a certain amount of time that you put regulations on it and the way that you would apply like screen time for your kids or the amount of sugar you allow into your diet or You know just certain even certain nutrients that we allow into our diet that you don't want to have too much of right like red meat is good But you don't want too much of it. So figuring out where is that level that I can
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take it in, get the knowledge and the wisdom that I need and stay neutral enough that I can then therefore use my discernment to decide if something feels true to me or not, or if I believe in those facts. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
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I mentioned, I think, making a conscious choice as to what platforms you're engaging with to get information is really important. I mentioned that courier platform and that's really election focused, I think the Associated Press.
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your national public radio and your local public radio are other great resources for unbiased news that's not driven by corporate dollars or the need for eyes and viewership to gain advertising. I think you've got to think about
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the fact that corporate media is a business and they produce content to make money where your national public radio and your local public radio station
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And non-for-profit news organizations in general don't have that same motivator. And yeah, I think it's important to not watch the news before PED or watch the news first thing in the morning. I usually listen to NPR driving the kids to school and picking them up from school. That's how I was raised driving and listening to a lot of NPR. And then I will engage in
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some podcasts throughout the week and read the New York Times on the app, just kind of cruise through the headlines and read stories that I feel like are going to resonate with me in some way. But it's like anything else, you know, it's quality over quantity. And well, and I think one great way to like test your discernment too is how much is it triggering you? So
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because most of the time, if there's a trigger there, right, there's something to look at. So I'd say like, you know, if we read something, like I always kind of think about it, like even news organizations will sometimes have a political bend to them. So if I can read something in the New York Times, can I also read something in the Wall Street Journal and not be triggered by it?
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You know, it's a little bit too. Like if I'm watching something on CNN, if I turn something on Fox News and is their demeanor, I'm having like intensely triggered by what they're saying. So I feel like it's coming back to that mindful place of neutrality. When you can get to a point where you're listening and you're hearing and you're absorbing, but you're feeling some neutrality associated with it, I feel like that's a great, that's a
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a good judge of when we're using our best discernment to decide if something is good for us or makes sense. And I think it's also important when you do engage with something triggering to them, I mean, I'd go and watch, I'll watch the same story being reported on in multiple stations in order to discern what the actual story is all the time because they tell them every which way.
Staying Engaged Without Media Exhaustion
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But I think the one thing we have to be careful of is not,
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You know, like Martin Luther King said, the most like dangerous person is the, you know, like the white moderate, right? Is that when you don't feel impassioned
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by what's happening and you choose to stay disengaged and neutral on things that you really shouldn't be neutral on, it is to the detriment of those who are suffering the consequences. And in part, oftentimes our society is a whole. So I do feel like it's important to stay informed and educated and
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And and then take that information and engage in some capacity whatever capacity it is It could be as active or passive as you want But if you are going we are in the age of information and just like learning about anything in the world You can learn all you want, but if you're not doing anything with that It's you know, are you?
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Are you just, you know, what's the point? I guess is what I'm getting at, you know, when I say doing it could be, it doesn't have to be anything big. It doesn't have to be anything time consuming. But if you think something important is happening around you and you're learning about it, and then you choose not to
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I don't know, not to engage or to stop learning about it because it is triggering or it is upsetting or it is a stressful. And I think right now we're all dealing with a lot of exhaustion as Americans from what is happening in our country. And it's shutting. A lot of us are just shutting down. Like I just can't deal with it. It's too much. It's affecting my mental health. It's affecting my health. So I think you have to find that balance of what
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What can you do when you do take in the information? Well, and I think that's like the big part of it is making sure that you're making an empowered choice with what you want to do with the information you're absorbing from the media. Cause I think it can also get to be a slippery slope where we start to define for other people, you know, if you're not speaking out on social media, you know, social media, then your silence is deafening.
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Perhaps somebody doesn't feel like that's where they're going to contribute the most or where they want to engage in that because they don't want to perpetuate something. And I think that sometimes we get into a shaming cycle in our society too.
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So I agree with you, it's knowing how to take in what you are hearing and perceiving and seeing, discerning what resonates with you, what feels true to you, and then deciding the best way for you to act, whether that's going on voting, whether that's contributing money somewhere, maybe that's just a conversation you have with your children, maybe it's just being mindful and aware of it. There is merit to that.
00:15:29
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But I think it comes back to having this mindful relationship to the media you're consuming so that you can, it's like anything, use your intuition and use your discernment to make an authentic decision, something that is authentic to you and that resonates within your heart. I think is the most important thing that we can do.
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And so that we're not bearing our head in the sand, but we're also making sure that it's a decision that resonates and feels true to us. And I think we have to sometimes do the same thing with social media clean
Managing Social Media for Mental Health
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out. That's one of the ways too. It's not just managing how much news you listen to, because that's a big one. But I also think it's your social media clean out. Can you manage your own algorithms? Because the minute you search for one thing,
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All it takes is one search. Your algorithm will become flooded in that. So if you have flooded for political information, if you just happen to linger for a little bit of time on maybe something that's really politically jarring, you're going to get a lot more of that. If you have been looking once again at, you know,
00:16:38
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fitness apps or beauty apps. And now all of a sudden your, you know, your app is being consumed with images of beautiful, you know, young women, and it makes you feel bad about yourself. So the contents out there, it's your decision, what you how you want to consume it. So I try to really be mindful of what this and sit your body always keeps the score, your body will tell you. So I try to pay attention to
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how my body is feeling when I'm scrolling. So if I am scrolling and I start to, I could be looking at something kind of benign, same thing I've been looking at two days ago, but I'm starting to notice myself feeling a little anxious, a little restless, not very relaxed, not at ease, I put it down. And then if I start to notice that's happening a lot, I start going through and unfollowing people
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so that i can clean out that algorithm and that's not even to say like there's nothing wrong with the beauty influencer i'm not unfollowing her because i dislike her i'm not even necessarily unfollowing a political person because i dislike what they've said but i may not want that in my feed that's not why i'm there and that's not why what i want to engage within.
00:17:51
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I have to consider my own mental health in that moment and decide that I am an active person who has emotional intelligence and can determine and can pay enough attention to my body and the signals it's sending me to know when something I'm watching and especially on social media is not Serving me where it's making me feel a little anxious
00:18:13
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Yeah. And I think like, for example, people that work in the social justice space, they follow a lot of content that is very powerful and triggering and upsetting. But that's the space that they are in, they're choosing to be in. That's the space they're doing their work in. And so they are engaging with something of a different vibration in order to feed the fire that allows them to do the work they're doing.
00:18:43
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I also think it's important to think about where you're at in life and what you want to feed. What part of your present moment in your present life do you want to feed with the content you engage with? I know me personally, I have really made an intentional effort to diversify my social media.
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content providers. So really making sure that I am following organizations and people from a wide range of ethnic backgrounds and socioeconomic backgrounds to just really have a stronger understanding of the topics that I'm interested in, not just from
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a celebrity perspective or someone who looks like me perspective, but to really get a different take on things I care about a lot, whether it be gardening, whether it be music, whether it be art. Um, I think it's important to be intentional, not just like, Oh, this looks good, but really be intentional on, you know, how inclusive is your social media content? And, um,
00:20:08
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And, and think about that because the reality is, is yeah, you can curate what you put out into the world, but you can also curate what you put in or what you take in, you know? And I think a lot of us are just engaged with things that we like or we, you know, you know, resonates in some way without really thinking about curating the content we are gathering and the algorithms obviously shape and shift that all the time.
00:20:37
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But you have more control if you're mindful of of who you're following Then not for sure For sure, what do you think about
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Like, you know, for those of us who have children and children of different ages, it's, it's such like a tough space.
News Exposure for Children: How Much is Too Much?
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Like I grew up, the news was on all the time. So, and the news was different when I grew up though. It came on a certain time of day.
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And it wasn't, yeah. Yeah. That was a dose. That was it. Like a six o'clock news. So if there was like something horrific that happened in the world, you watched it once. You didn't watch it 50 times throughout the day on a loop, you know? Yes. And I don't know, I have friends who like, you know, I don't let my kids watch the news and it's too, it's too disturbing. And I don't know. I think it's just cause I mean, I grew up in a household where news was always on politics. We talked about the table, like everything was just out there and
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It's just how I was raised so it isn't like for me. It's important to like talk to kid I talked to my children about what what we're seeing or hearing You know And I'm mindful of it. Like I'm not I'm not letting them watch any sort of like brutal. I Don't know. I do if something's really horrific and like we're not gonna change channel on that one But you know, it's not on all the time. I
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Yeah, I mean, I think it depends on the age the child is at too, because I do think they're, you know, at a younger age, the idea, most likely their ability to absorb that is probably going to give them more anxiety than useful because they can't do anything with the information or act on that information in any way.
00:22:23
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My kids are getting to the age where they can talk about things a little bit more. They're learning about them in school. So the way we kind of approach, like especially even talking about like something they see on the news or something political, we'll talk about it from the standpoint of like, well, there's different people who believe in different things. And these are some of the different perspectives that are out there.
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Like, I still try to think about it in terms of, like, giving them, once again, as much neutrality as possible. I'll tell them how I feel about something and what we believe, but I like to encourage them to, you know, just use their best judgment and to think a little bit about it and reflect on it. So we're finally at a point where I wouldn't necessarily... I wouldn't have my kids watch news the entire time anymore, but we'll talk about world news and matters and things like that.
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Um, and then I think as they start getting into teenage years, it really changes, but I still think it's about how much it's on. It's like not letting it be your background. How do you feel about, um, like it's hard to manage too when you have two people in the household who have different viewpoints on like how much news is too much news? Like my husband likes a lot of news. He likes to have the news on
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all the time. He can sit in bed and listen to it for hours while he's doing work. He's also a very neutral person. He's very unswayed. He's one of those people who can really listen to, he's one of the first people I ever knew who would go back and forth between like Fox News and CNN and MSNBC. And he would just listen and he's so good at just extrapolating the truth and noticing patterns that he's seeing on the different people and their different perspectives and how they share it.
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So I always feel like he's a very wise sage soul when it comes to things like matters of the news and the world. But it's more than I can handle. Like, I'll get in bed. And I, and I have to, I actually say to him now, like, I'm sorry, but I can't have it on in the background. It does jar my nervous system. And it does affect me more than I would like it to.
00:24:29
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So I really I kind of ask for when I'm in the room or for collectively cooking dinner together or things like that that perhaps we're not watching like we'll watch a little bit of evening news together and that's about it. And then we try to do things like if we're in the car together finding like a podcast that we both really like.
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You know just so that it's not on this 24-hour loop cycle that doesn't infect him but does impact me How about you is that what's it like in your household? Yeah, like Scotty suddenly has gotten really into watching CNN lately and
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in the morning. Our compromise is local news. Local news is a lot easier. It's more community focused. It's hard because sometimes I know when I was living in Florida, the local news
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there was a lot of violence on the local news pretty regularly. And then moving here to Wilmington, it's like, you know, there's a parade and a store open and like maybe there's one story that's violent crime. And I was thinking about in
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preparing for this episode just because I work
Local vs. Network News Impact
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in media. I literally read the news. I'm a public relations manager. It's my job to read the news all day, every day, to monitor things that are happening with my clients and the organization I work for is in Jacksonville, Florida.
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And I was thinking about oftentimes, I know a lot of journalists personally, I've worked for a news company in the past. And I think it's important to note that
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Journalists have an obligation to report on violent crime, even if it's not happening in your neighborhood. I think for those of us who have the privilege of living in safer neighborhoods, we sometimes watch the news and we're like, God, you think there's nothing else happening in the city. But the reality is that they have an obligation for those people living in those neighborhoods to report those stories because that's the only way they're getting information.
00:26:43
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about those stories. And if you're living in a city where there's a lot of violent crime, then you're going to see a lot of that on the news. And they only have so much time, and they only have so many resources to commit to anything else. And public safety is really number one on any newsroom's mind.
00:27:05
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reporting stories that affect public safety in some capacity. And so I think it's important to, when you're watching the news, for me watching local news is easier than the network news. It feels like I can relate to it more and it has me thinking more about my actual life, my present community,
00:27:25
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things that are tangible to me versus things happening on the other side of the world that I have zero control over. It feels more mindful to watch local news in that way. But in watching it, sometimes it is really tough and sad. And
00:27:42
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You know, and that's just, I think it's important to be aware of what's happening a mile down the road, two miles down the road in your community. I think so often we live in our little bubbles and we aren't, you know, we aren't, we have no clue what people living literally a bike ride away or going through in a day, unless we're, unless we're learning about it in some capacity. I don't know what your thoughts are on that.
00:28:12
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I was just oscillating back and forth as I was listening to you thinking I in many ways agree because what happens locally is really important and your local news is a source for that. I do think there may be a numbing aspect to it that I don't know that once again I
00:28:30
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I don't know that it's doing that much though. I don't know that anybody who's watching it is then jumping out and like, I really want to improve the conditions of my neighborhood down the street. So that's always- For the people in the neighborhood getting information about the violent crime that just happened in their neighborhood.
00:28:46
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And that argument I can see and understand and I think that's important and that's valid. It's kind of a similar way that I feel about commenting on social media too, to a certain degree.
00:29:02
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Understanding if the what the what the actual impact is and what are the results of that? You know, what are the actual results? Like what is it propelling us to do? So once again, I think it comes down to that balance of and I think the way you're talking about it is a very mindful and aware approach to it.
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So I think if we can consume our media from a place of awareness, from a true place of mindfulness, to think about it, to reflect on it, and not allow it. The only way we're going to do that is if we do it consciously.
00:29:34
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And I think if it's just playing in the background, it's not conscious. It's just, unfortunately, probably some very heavy background vibrations that are seeping into you. Whereas if you decide to sit down and consciously watch it and pay attention, and then let that be your only source for the day of it, then I think that's fine. So I think it always, it just all comes down to balance. It really comes down to how much of it you allow into your life.
00:30:04
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Making some conscious decisions and having enough self-awareness Being able to ask yourself and get curious about well, how does this make me feel? You know is you know, how do I want to engage in this and how am I going to be most effective? You know, I think it's important for even like when we're talking about curating your social media. I think it you know
00:30:28
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I think it's really amazing that you're approaching it from that level of mindfulness, of raising your awareness and changing that. I also think it's okay if somebody likes what they like and they want to cultivate their page to what makes them feel good and what they enjoy.
00:30:43
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as long as they're allowing themselves that versatility and the ability to get that exposure someplace else as well too. Because I think you can also learn a lot. Sometimes I'll be getting ready to be like, oh, I don't really vibe with this and I have to ask myself, well, why haven't I vibed with that multiple times? I think if you can be self-reflective, if you can be aware and self-reflective,
00:31:09
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Media can be an exposure to different types of media can be a really powerful tool. It can be a powerful tool for self growth. It can be a learning mechanism for you and it can be a pleasure mechanism for you. It has all these different aspects to it that I think that it can bring to the table and it's like any tool. If we use it well and we use it wisely and we're thoughtful about it, it can be a powerful thing.
Mindfulness in Media Consumption
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if we are mindless about it and we don't ask ourselves any questions and we only watch the things we like and we don't think more thoroughly about the content we're experiencing or pay attention to how we feel when we watch it, then I do think you become a slave to your media diet at that point. I agree. I think it just goes back to that pillar of mindfulness curiosity, like asking, you know, why is the story being reported on?
00:32:02
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And why does this story make me feel this way? And really kind of digging into it. It's really like interpreting your responses to media and then responding accordingly. It's like anything. It can be an exercise in mindfulness.
00:32:22
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But making sure that whatever decision you're making about the media are consuming, too, also isn't coming from a place of guilt. I've thought about that, too. It's like, well, if I hear other people talking negatively about the negative impacts of reality television, and that's why I stop, well, that's not me making a decision from an autonomous place.
00:32:41
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I need to make that decision for myself. I need to be able to hear feedback and not respond from a place of guilt, but respond from like a true place of like inside myself, you know, and really determine what is best serving me and that and what best serves you on Monday may not best serve you on Wednesday and being aware of that.
00:33:03
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And really allowing that space for growth. And I think it all comes down to being mindful of how you feel in the body when you're watching, listening, or reading something. And I do think a little discomfort is not necessarily a bad thing. Sometimes you're going to watch something really sad on the news or something really important on the news.
00:33:23
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and it's not gonna make you feel good. That doesn't mean you automatically need to turn that off, right? Because discomfort's not always a bad thing. You know, the same thing with perhaps, you know, exactly perhaps a beautiful, you know, movie that's really touching or really sad. Sometimes exploring those emotions can be powerful and can be healing for you. Sometimes it's detrimental to your psychological well-being.
00:33:49
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So it's once again being able to interpret that and know like, am I already a person who is very in touch with my emotions and tries to process trauma and work through this? Or if so, I probably don't need the movie. Yeah, 100%. If I'm already doing the work elsewhere, if I'm legit doing it. Yeah, and I think like you said, don't let stuff just run in the background.
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If there's one takeaway from this, don't let the news just play in the background. You are picking up on it. It's important to be mindful of when and how you take in.
00:34:28
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media of any kind. Yeah. Cause once again, whether you're taking in something you agree with or don't agree with, you're still taking it in. It's either reinforcing something you've already got in there or it's implanting something you don't need. So it's just like making sure it's like, I actually think it's really similar to mindless eating. You know, like if you just sit and you could like literally sit and eat a whole bowl of pasta or consume a whole cake,
00:34:54
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And then all of a sudden be like, oh my God, I didn't even experience that, right? Like I just wolfed it down and you didn't absorb, you know, and it's just, it's, and so all the bad gut got in you without any of the joy or the pleasure or the awareness. And you didn't actually, you weren't conscious enough to like realize that like maybe three bites in you were full or that you weren't really feeling that good. Or maybe it didn't even taste as good.
00:35:18
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as you thought it would. And so because you were so unconscious and so unaware of it, you just over absorbed. So I think it really just comes down to moderation. It's just being aware, being mindful, and just being curious about how the things we're watching, reading, listening to, are affecting us. I think it's a great place to stop. Yeah. Sounds good. It's been great.
00:35:47
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Thanks, Kylie. Thank you. Good luck to everyone out there as you take in media over the next year or so in America. Good luck. Don't forget to follow us on social at Everyday Mindful Podcast on Instagram and Facebook. And if you liked our little chat, please subscribe. It would be great if you gave us a review. All the stars, please.
00:36:15
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Same time, same place next week. Bye. Bye.