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College Football Week 5 and NFL Week 4 Preview + Movie Trivia with Zack
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The boys breakdown all of the biggest storylines and matchups from this week in football including a huge top 5 matchup between Georgia and Alabama, a ranked Big 10 matchup with playoff implications between Illinois and Penn St, the NFL Rookie of the Year race, and some betting trends to watch in the NFL.
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Transcript
Introduction and Episode Overview
00:00:12
Zack
What is up? Welcome to the Next Guy Up podcast. You are here with Mason, Zach, and Tenz. We have an awesome episode coming at you today. We have college football, week five.
00:00:24
Zack
Some some are saying the game of the year is up this week.
00:00:26
Mason
Mm.
00:00:26
Zack
Big time stuff. Tenz has a big announcement for everyone out there in podcast land. um Mason. received some heat this week for some takes that he's taken.
00:00:38
Zack
Um, we'll, we'll go over that as well.
Movie List Controversy
00:00:40
Zack
Uh, we have some, we're going to talk about some movie franchises now after Mason, after Mason's top 10 list went viral on the internet.
00:00:48
Zack
Um, there's been a lot of discussion around his list and whether it was only including IP movies. Some are saying that, uh, he doesn't watch real movies very much.
00:01:00
Mason
Real quick.
00:01:00
Zack
Some people are saying, that i not me.
00:01:01
Mason
I'm ashamed of myself. I left off two movies.
00:01:04
nextguyup
Oh.
00:01:05
Zack
o
00:01:05
Mason
Uh, I'm yeah, I'm broken. I'm flabbergasted. Some would say it's just had been a tough.
00:01:10
Zack
Wow, it was an apology.
00:01:11
Mason
Yeah. I left off two movies and I left off maze runner and national treasure.
00:01:13
Zack
Yep.
00:01:16
Zack
Oh boy.
00:01:19
Mason
So tough break for tough break for me.
00:01:20
Zack
Hmm.
00:01:22
Mason
Yeah. Maybe they could be 13, 14, wait, no, 12, 13.
00:01:23
Zack
I remember saying your list was better before those movies got included.
00:01:31
Mason
Correct.
00:01:34
Zack
It's like factoring incompletions into your passer rating or into your completion percentage.
00:01:37
Mason
Oh, wait. Now it's better. No, I incorrect what you said. Yeah. It's better a list. Now that I have those, I want to redo my list is what I'm trying to say. Give me a second chance.
00:01:48
Zack
why Why would you do that?
00:01:50
nextguyup
Why would you make your list worse on purpose?
00:01:55
Mason
Wait, tens. You're not telling me national treasure is a top 10 movie of all time.
00:02:00
nextguyup
I am telling you exactly that, that it is not a top 10.
00:02:02
Mason
Okay. How about that? No. Okay. I'll tempt you with another one. The second national treasure. Better, right?
00:02:09
nextguyup
Even worse than the first.
00:02:10
Zack
Much worse, significantly worse.
00:02:13
Mason
Okay. Well, I tried. Move along here.
Sports Movie Draft Teaser
00:02:16
Zack
um I will say that to everyone out there, we do have a pod coming up in the future of a movie, sports movie draft, which is going to be hype.
00:02:27
Zack
I've honestly been preparing for this draft for most of my life, I think. I've got a list that's, that's fire. Mason, I think has admitted that he's watched very few sports movies.
00:02:37
Mason
Yeah.
00:02:39
nextguyup
Which is weird for a sports guy to not watch sports movies.
00:02:40
Zack
Some are saying that Mason's not only not a movie guy, but he's not a sports guy. Some people are saying that Mason.
00:02:46
nextguyup
Some people are wondering.
00:02:47
Mason
Who's saying that you.
00:02:47
Zack
How do you respond? No, it's just some people.
00:02:49
nextguyup
Some people are wondering how much ball you watch sometimes we'll be talking about ball and you're like, oh, yeah, I didn't see that Of what we didn't say you didn't know ball we're we're wondering how much ball you watch
00:02:52
Mason
Listen.
00:02:55
Mason
I can't do back to back episodes of this. You all like grilled me of the will Lewis take and are not that, but Malik Willis, sorry.
00:03:02
Zack
Yeah. Hmm.
00:03:05
Mason
And then ah now we're here where I don't know ball. it's ah it's Like TV and movie wise, not some, how how good are the, are these worth my time?
00:03:20
Mason
Cause now I'm wondering if I should, you know, try some of these movies before we, like I've seen coach Carter, huh?
00:03:25
nextguyup
it depends
00:03:25
Zack
um Mason I think here's the here's the thing Mason. I think you know ball.
00:03:28
Mason
Yeah.
00:03:30
Zack
I think you only know NBA and NFL ball though. Is that is that fair?
00:03:35
Mason
Yeah, ah here's the thing, fill the dreams, a lot of plot. Is there much baseball actually in that? Some would say probably not. I've seen radio, sad movie.
00:03:46
nextguyup
It
00:03:49
Mason
Let's see, what else is there?
00:03:50
Zack
That's low tier.
00:03:50
nextguyup
depends.
00:03:50
Mason
I'm trying to think, remember the Titans, seen that?
00:03:54
Zack
That's a good one.
00:03:55
nextguyup
Let him cook for a second.
00:03:55
Mason
Thank you.
00:03:56
Mason
I'm giving it, I'm giving it.
00:03:56
nextguyup
just let him let him let him Let him cook himself into a corner really quick.
00:03:57
Zack
Let's just keep going.
00:03:58
Mason
Oops.
00:04:01
nextguyup
Just keep on going.
00:04:01
Mason
and
00:04:03
Zack
I'm waiting for gridiron gang with the rock.
00:04:07
nextguyup
That would be so bad.
00:04:08
Zack
Have you seen that?
00:04:09
Mason
I'm not seeing it. No, should I watch it?
00:04:10
Zack
What about the tooth fairy with the rock?
00:04:14
nextguyup
It's something.
00:04:14
Mason
Oh, game plan. That's a sports movie. Or I'm tipping picks, so.
00:04:17
Zack
Blindside? I know you've seen the blindside.
00:04:20
Mason
Blindside, yes.
00:04:22
Zack
Hmm.
00:04:22
Mason
No, that's probably on my list. Why are we doing this? We don't need to be tipping picks, but.
00:04:25
Zack
ah Okay, here we go. where you We're getting ahead of ourselves.
00:04:27
Mason
Oh, can can I can I peel back the curtain a little bit on another behind the scenes thing that happened on accident that we're doing,
00:04:28
Zack
Okay.
Blind Draft Segment
00:04:35
Mason
which is
00:04:36
Mason
The blind rankings that we have and we have a draft. Well, Tinsley accidentally combined them in a text message and now it's actually becoming a thing. So Zach, why don't you go ahead and ah explain how that's going to work.
00:04:53
Zack
The blind draft.
00:04:53
Mason
The blind draft. We don't know what we're drafting.
00:04:56
Zack
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:04:56
Mason
It's literally, we prepare for these.
00:04:57
Zack
Okay, it's coming up. I thought you were joking. That is a real thing. Yeah, it's coming up soon. um Here, once we're in football season, things kind of get crazy. um Some of our bigger drafts are harder to pull off and in the in the middle of a week in a jam-packed episode.
00:05:12
Zack
We're not trying to give you two or three-hour episodes out here. oh You know, we're we are known for our um conciseness on this pod. We like to give you a short episode just just long enough to get the job done.
00:05:26
Zack
So we are ah we're doing it. We're going to do we're going to start a new a segment with some drafting or we're going to put together a wheel of a bunch of different random draft ideas that we're not even going to be able to know about it.
00:05:31
nextguyup
It's a model in life.
00:05:43
Zack
I think I'm going to run it all through my wife so that we don't We're not allowed to see any of it
Highest-Grossing Film Franchises Game
00:05:48
Zack
or have any, any forethought. Uh, we're going to spend a wheel. We're going to get it on the spot and we're going to have to do a draft blind. I think the people have been wanting this for a while, specifically for one of us who tends to lean on internet rankings more than others, possibly whose draft ah draft skills significantly raised after a few really bad drafts early on. Some people are asking how we got so good all of a sudden.
00:06:17
nextguyup
And when certain people kind of call out some of his pics like hmm, I don't think you actually like that he goes well The internet says otherwise that it's a really good pic. So why are you calling out my pic?
00:06:27
Mason
uh dang it i've done that before
00:06:27
Zack
I'm just saying there are some of us on this pot or use the internet more than others. I think so This is gonna be straight off the dome. That's gonna be fun. We're gonna start that coming up very soon. So if you have any ideas, um I Don't know how you can even get it to us without us seeing them let's say this if you have any good ideas text us I'll give you my wife's photo ever and This is not a good idea, probably.
00:06:54
Zack
just we' We'll figure this out. We'll figure it out.
00:06:59
Zack
We'll make we'll we'll get something going.
00:06:59
nextguyup
ah Yeah it on On the internet
00:07:00
Zack
Text this though if you have an idea. Don't tell us the idea, but just say, hey, I've got one. Let me know how to get it to you.
00:07:05
Mason
We just saw in real time, like real time Zach going through an idea like verbally as he's realizing that is not a good idea.
00:07:08
Zack
I didn't think through the whole thing yet.
00:07:13
Zack
i'm just gonna put Let me just give my wife's number out on the pod so everyone just texts her. Right now, yeah. That's coming up. But today, we have a little bit of a of a fun segment. We are getting to a lot of football after this. There's a lot of football coming up on the horizon. But before we get there, we have a little bit of a fun segment. Mason famously gave us his top 10 list, which was full of IP. In fact, it was 100% IP. It was only um some series.
00:07:46
Zack
that were coming from some other source. No original movies on there. So I'm going to I have a list in front of me.
00:07:56
Zack
We're compete. You guys are going to be competing with each other today. I have a list in front of me of the highest grossing film franchises ever by dollar amount.
00:08:02
nextguyup
All right.
00:08:06
nextguyup
Zach, can I ask you a question? Is the list in front of you?
00:08:10
Zack
It's in front of me. What did I say?
00:08:14
nextguyup
You said it like four times.
00:08:16
Mason
Wow
00:08:18
Zack
The list is in front of me. So how we're going to, how we're going to swing this.
00:08:21
nextguyup
I'm in troll mode. I'm sorry.
00:08:23
Zack
We are going to take turns. You two are going to give me a franchise that you think is in the top earning. I think we're each going to pick. Let's pick five each.
00:08:35
Zack
I'm going to add up your total dollar amount. Whoever has the highest highest dollar amount out of your five picks is
00:08:40
nextguyup
Ooh.
Tenz's NFL Critiques Return
00:08:44
nextguyup
I
00:08:44
Zack
going to win the segment.
00:08:46
Zack
Are you with me?
00:08:46
Mason
So standalone movies, these are standalone.
00:08:47
nextguyup
love that.
00:08:49
Zack
These are all franchises. So these are all franchises.
00:08:52
nextguyup
Fragizes.
00:08:53
Zack
I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna throw out number one because it is so much higher than the other ones, it would ruin the entire thing. That would be the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
00:09:02
Mason
Hmm.
00:09:02
Zack
um Just for reference, it's $31 billion. dollars It's three times as high as number two on the list. That's why I'm throwing it out. So the next highest is in the $10 billion dollars range. um Because if you got that, whoever went first would get that and it would be done though.
00:09:17
Zack
so
00:09:17
Mason
Yeah Why would you give me a handicap I don't understand uh, I Okay, the only reason i'm going with this thought process is because there's literally 10 movies So I don't know why they're not making money like I don't know why this wouldn't be on the list So fast and furious right off the gate like right off the bat
00:09:18
Zack
I think we'll just take turns here. ah For the sake of a little bit of a handicap, I think movie wise, I'm gonna let Mason go first. Just because you watch less movies.
00:09:40
Zack
Okay.
00:09:46
Zack
Okay, that's an interesting one.
00:09:47
Mason
There's 10 of them.
00:09:48
nextguyup
This is a snake draft do I get to go back to back now?
00:09:48
Mason
11.
00:09:51
Zack
Snake Drive.
00:09:52
Mason
That is not how that works.
00:09:54
Zack
Fast and Furious is number seven on the list.
00:09:55
Mason
Wow. So no, you don't get back to back.
00:09:57
Zack
7.33 billion dollars.
00:09:58
Mason
That wasn't as good as I thought it was.
00:10:02
Mason
Okay.
00:10:03
nextguyup
All right, let's go Star Wars Bob
00:10:04
Zack
10. Star Wars is number three on the list.
00:10:07
Mason
Man.
00:10:08
Zack
10.34 billion.
00:10:13
Zack
10.34 billion dollars. Okay, Nathan.
00:10:17
Mason
I'm trying to think, yeah, I'm trying to think just cause like how well marvel did they're not even anywhere close to Marvel, but they're superhero and everybody loves superhero. So I'm going to go DC.
00:10:30
Zack
Okay, DC seven point one nine billion that is number eight on our list Seven point eight Parts of the Caribbean is on the list is a good bit lower.
00:10:35
Mason
Wow. I'm low balling here. Okay.
00:10:38
nextguyup
Let's go ah Pirates of the Caribbean.
00:10:42
Mason
Hmm.
00:10:45
Zack
I will say number 15 or point five two So after two rounds that the scores are very close May a tense
00:10:47
Mason
wow
00:10:47
nextguyup
oh That's tough.
00:10:48
Mason
Wow.
00:10:57
Zack
is up by just a hair, but it's it's like almost neck and neck.
00:10:59
nextguyup
hang
00:11:00
Mason
You already ran the math on that. Wow. That's impressive.
00:11:02
Zack
I'm just running it in my head as we go.
00:11:03
nextguyup
He's a doctor. He's a doctor of mathematics.
00:11:05
Zack
Okay, I'm giving a hint to both sides.
00:11:08
Mason
Okay.
00:11:10
Zack
um Obviously, the Marvel Cinematic Universe is cut out. That does not necessarily mean that we're cutting out all Marvel stuff. That's just a small hint to you.
00:11:26
Mason
So Spider-Man, because it's Sony.
00:11:26
nextguyup
Okay.
00:11:29
Mason
Oh, yes.
00:11:33
Mason
With that hint, Zach, I'm gonna go with Spider-Man. The Spider-Man universe. Spideyverse.
00:11:39
Zack
That is a good pick. Um, and it's actually number two.
00:11:42
Mason
I wonder if the cartoons in there like thrown in, because those made a lot of money.
00:11:44
Zack
So, um, it looks like possibly 10.6 billion.
00:11:54
Mason
Okay, good answer.
00:11:59
Mason
Hmm.
00:11:59
Zack
So Mason, that was a big, that was a pretty big one for you. um well say I that's too big of an, but here we are, uh, tens onto your third pick.
00:12:09
nextguyup
um Let's go with Toy Story.
00:12:11
Mason
Why I didn't even think of that cartoons.
00:12:14
Zack
Toy Story. Hmm. That's not on my list.
00:12:16
Mason
Oh.
00:12:18
nextguyup
Oh, great.
00:12:19
Zack
That's not ideal.
00:12:22
Mason
So ah I'm shocked that we I didn't even think of it till this second Harry Potter.
00:12:23
nextguyup
Dang it.
00:12:29
Zack
Yeah, Harry Potter's fourth. Nine point six, six billion.
00:12:31
Mason
Okay.
00:12:34
Mason
They call me the king of franchises.
00:12:34
Zack
So made me since franchise knowledge is really coming in clutch for it right now.
00:12:36
Mason
Everybody.
00:12:40
Zack
You could say.
00:12:43
Mason
Someone say.
00:12:43
nextguyup
Hmm, some would say.
00:12:44
Zack
um And so that might have been the nail in your coffin, but there's a couple you can pull out here and get the climb back into it The top four are all off the board It's on there it's number 11 5.96 Yeah, and some of these some of them are weird, I mean there's only six movies which is probably a piece of that puzzle but
00:12:49
Mason
I believe in utens.
00:12:50
nextguyup
Thank you.
00:12:51
Mason
Make this.
00:12:55
nextguyup
Let's go Lord of the Rings.
00:12:57
Mason
Mm. Yep.
00:13:02
Mason
I thought that would have been higher.
00:13:13
Zack
They're big movies.
00:13:15
Mason
So I'm going to go with one that they still are putting them out for some reason that is transformers. One that was on my list. That was what started this whole thing. The whole greatest CGI movies of all time.
00:13:24
Zack
It is on the list of number 13, $5.33 billion. dollars That's a lot.
00:13:32
Mason
Dang.
00:13:33
Zack
OK, 10s, you have one last pick.
00:13:36
nextguyup
Hmm Let's go let's go the rocky franchise
00:13:36
Zack
I'm not sure it's going to matter.
00:13:41
Mason
Hmm.
00:13:43
Zack
That's
Justin Fields vs. Russell Wilson Debate
00:13:44
Mason
I didn't even think of that. Oh.
00:13:44
Zack
not on the list.
00:13:46
nextguyup
it It doesn't include Creed I don't get Creed and rocky they're all in the same franchise Hmm
00:13:49
Zack
Um, even if it did, I'm not sure it would show up on there. Uh, so even before I country, the numbers Mason wins that would buy a landslide.
00:13:55
nextguyup
tough
00:14:01
Zack
Um, tens out about 20 billion. I think Mason had like 35 billion. So let's go to the list for funds easier and then we'll move on. ah Marvel Cinematic Universe won 31 billion, Spider-Man was 2, 10.6, then Star Wars, Wizarding World, that's all of the Harry Potter movies so it is including the prequel ones as well.
00:14:27
Zack
um We have the James Bond series. There's a lot of those movies.
00:14:31
Mason
Oh, man. Yep.
00:14:34
Zack
The X-Men. There's a good bit of those as well.
00:14:36
nextguyup
Mm.
00:14:38
Zack
ah That was whenever I gave the Marvel hint, I was also kind of hinting at that one, but. um Fast and Furious number seven, the DC Extended Universe, number eight, seven billion.
00:14:49
Zack
There's a lot of movies, even if they're bad. ah Batman as a whole, 6.8 billion.
00:14:54
Mason
Oh, dang, I kind of had Batman in with DC.
00:14:56
Zack
Also Batman movies out there.
00:14:58
Mason
Yeah, I didn't even think about doing that separate.
00:15:01
Zack
Jurassic Park, $6 billion. Lord of the Rings, $5.96 billion. Despicable Me franchise.
00:15:10
nextguyup
a more than toy story.
00:15:10
Zack
Wow coming out of nowhere 5.6 billion transformers 5.3 Avatar only two movies 5.24 billion Pirates of the Caribbean is next at number 15 then mission impossible Those are good. Those are pretty big um There's been a good bit of those as well Shrek number 17 new and coming out as well and lastly and leastly The Twilight Saga.
00:15:40
Zack
Number 18. 3.3 billion dollars.
00:15:42
nextguyup
Wow.
00:15:42
Mason
Wow, the fact that that's on the list that says something there.
00:15:46
Zack
Pretty gross.
00:15:48
Mason
Have you ever tried to watch them, Zach?
00:15:49
Zack
Makes me sick. Yes. You may get to watch them at one point in time. Not my favorites.
00:15:58
Zack
But it is what it is. Okay. So that's amazing. Your knowledge of franchises is truly, truly incredible.
00:16:03
nextguyup
Proud of you.
00:16:04
Mason
I guess I'm good at something.
00:16:07
Zack
You are a Marvel.
00:16:07
Mason
I've been recording, yeah.
00:16:08
Zack
thisal
00:16:09
Mason
I've been recording this pod for over a year now and we finally figured out what I'm, what I bring to the table and that is French, not drafts, franchise, ah my knowledge for franchise movies.
00:16:15
Zack
IP.
00:16:24
Zack
Okay. Great work.
00:16:27
Mason
When do I get my medal? Does it come in the mail three to five business days or?
00:16:30
nextguyup
Uh, I'm making a graphic on Instagram, just like I did from Lake Willis.
00:16:31
Zack
Yeah.
00:16:33
Mason
Okay.
00:16:33
Zack
Mason is picking a franchise.
00:16:40
Zack
Okay. Do we want to get into football?
00:16:45
Mason
Let's do it.
00:16:45
Zack
um why don't Mason, sins why don't you guys kick off with some NFL stuff here first?
00:16:50
Mason
Okay, yeah, so let's do it.
00:16:51
nextguyup
Beautiful.
00:16:53
Mason
um Real quick, Tinsley and I, there are new versions of ourselves with the NFL season. where Both our teams are starting out 0-3. ah He had an announcement he wanted to make on what type of tins he's going to be for the rest of the year.
00:17:07
Mason
So Tinsley, go ahead and give us your announcement.
00:17:08
nextguyup
Yup.
00:17:12
nextguyup
So yeah, the ah season's done for me as far as a hoping for a Super Bowl run. The Jags are dead. um So that means I have a couple options. I can hate watch, which I will. we be watching I will hate watch the Jaguars until Doug Peterson and Trabocchi are gone. So that's one thing that I can promise you is gonna be happening. But I kind of talked about them the other day.
00:17:37
nextguyup
Hater tens is back. No, I wasn't on a podcast when hater tens used to be around and that is when I like the Twitter streets and I fight with people Because I have nothing else to do. I have nothing, what what am I supposed to do? Fight about the Jaguars? No, that's okay. So all these people that wanna to come and get out of their way, try and talk about Trevor Lawrence, he's behind one of the worst offensive lines I've ever seen in my life. And his receivers absolutely suck other than Brian Thomas, he's good, I like him. ah The other guys can bump off a cliff.
00:18:09
nextguyup
um So yeah, all you people that want to talk bad about Trevor I am now going to find everything that's wrong with the Lamar Jackson's of the world the Brock Purdy's Joe burrow who's also own three congrats idiot with your stupid blonde hair um Anthony Richardson, I'm coming for you. There's not much because you're terrible um So this is what you can expect to find. I'm going to be on the streets hating for fun.
00:18:36
Mason
So I actually enjoy this news because one of my favorite things to do is like, when I'm on my lunch break, I'm like, you know, what am I going to just mindlessly look at?
00:18:39
nextguyup
I
00:18:46
Mason
And I'm just like, I'm going to go to Twitter, go to Tinsley's profile, click on replies. and then just look at all of the fights he's either picked or ah fights that have just come across like on his doorstep because he's a Jags fan and people want to pick a fight with him and he just doesn't, I end up being the one that just doesn't reply and I'm just like okay I'll just take an L on anything someone just call me a loser and I'm like yep you're you're right and I have nothing to say and he just pops off with something
00:19:18
Mason
They'll just come at him for his fandom or his, his team or whatever. And he pops off. So if you're bored, you can do that. Go ahead and back them up or give them a like, of course. But I'm, I'm satisfied with this news. You know, if we're going to get anything out of. Oh, and three teams might as well make it entertaining. Might as well bring the hater tens out. Why not?
00:19:40
nextguyup
Yeah, no this season is no longer about wins or losses for the Jacksonville Jaguars for me anymore I don't care about that anymore It is only about bringing everyone down with me all these people that want to say bad things about my quarterback Well, guess what? I can find worse things about your quarterback
00:19:58
Mason
That's a good point.
00:19:59
Zack
Got him.
00:20:00
Mason
So something.
00:20:00
Zack
What's the worst thing about Will Evans?
00:20:05
nextguyup
It's hard to find anything bad about will levis in a Packers uniform.
00:20:09
Mason
Malik Willis, you mean?
00:20:12
nextguyup
ah yeah Oh Yeah, well will levis this sorry oh What is that what's I did What's good about will levis it would be honestly an easier like thing for me to do.
00:20:14
Zack
Yeah. allen You make some up. Got him.
00:20:26
Mason
He keeps mayonnaise business and, and they he, he, okay.
00:20:29
nextguyup
Now, I think the man-based industry was doing just fine before Will Levis acted like he puts it in his coffee to be cool online.
00:20:35
Mason
okay Anyway, so let we're getting on topic. My turn, my, my, my, my turn.
00:20:38
nextguyup
Oh, no, this is the topic now.
00:20:42
Mason
Uh, listen, so for me, and I think Tinsley could, what, what else, if you're going to transfer your. You're focused onto something else. I feel like for Tennessee fans all around Jacksonville for him, but he's a Tennessee fan college wise, is you take all of your passion and you just focus it to the college level. We have something good going on here in the UT Vol Nation, do we not Zach?
00:21:13
Zack
This is a dangerous game you're playing, Mason.
00:21:15
Mason
So yes, because I i realized this.
00:21:17
Zack
Putting any kind of hope into Tennessee Vols football is just not a very good proposition. I'm just telling you.
00:21:26
Mason
Well, if we, if we, if we feel nervous about it, because it feels like anything I touch turns to dust because I was all in on, um, uh, Christian Kirk and he's not done anything.
00:21:39
Mason
And then I was all in and then I, and then I doubled quadruple down on Malik Willis being in hot garbage and look at him now.
00:21:40
nextguyup
Yeah, thanks for that. Yeah.
00:21:48
Zack
Mm-hmm Tends I have a question for you About a year ago someone this Someone on this podcast allegedly, but not allegedly changed had some allegiance shifting to some other rival teams We all know who we're talking about
00:21:49
Mason
He could be a starting quarterback for the Packers. They're just like, uh, we're gonna, yeah.
00:21:53
nextguyup
I'll answer it.
00:21:54
Mason
It was fine. I was talking, but go ahead. This is more for.
00:21:57
nextguyup
I think I know the question.
00:22:12
nextguyup
Someone who maybe went to Pittsburgh with me to watch them a rival team play Some people
00:22:14
Zack
Could someone say potentially that his influence on the team is what's caused their own three start to season?
Mason's Team Support Jinx
00:22:22
nextguyup
would say
00:22:22
Mason
Don't do that to me. You're already like trying to give me credit for Malik Willis being ah good.
00:22:28
Zack
You just said everything you touch. it's I mean, I'm just saying I was putting the pieces together.
00:22:31
Mason
Yeah, I did to kind of say that.
00:22:34
Zack
Jags look not great.
00:22:36
nextguyup
Yep, you you went and put your touch on Trevor's number one wide receiver and then what happened to him?
00:22:37
Mason
Let's see.
00:22:43
nextguyup
He forgot how to catch a football.
00:22:45
Mason
I also touched his hand. when did like He gave us a high five at the Pittsburgh game. When did they go 0 and 7? Because that was a win. Did they go? I swear.
00:22:53
nextguyup
The Jags, it was the Monday night game.
00:22:53
Mason
if yeah
00:22:56
nextguyup
No, it was it was a few weeks after that.
00:22:58
Mason
Okay, that would have been insane I may have been the reason if it was the week after and they've not won a game since Has anybody saying it but you zag Or just focus it maybe just go a focus back on the Titans because it's not going anywhere for him anyway, so
00:23:03
Zack
Some people are saying it.
00:23:06
nextguyup
Some people are wanting to know if maybe, no, I see.
00:23:06
Zack
Okay.
00:23:10
Zack
um
00:23:10
nextguyup
um I'm glad Zach brought this up because I was about to bring up the same thing about maybe you should stay away from the balls a little bit.
00:23:16
Zack
That's all I'm saying.
00:23:17
nextguyup
You should keep your fandom quiet.
00:23:20
Zack
Minimum.
00:23:26
Zack
Tanked him.
00:23:27
Mason
okay but listen
00:23:27
Zack
Yeah, take the under win total and then just put all your focus on him.
00:23:28
Mason
so
00:23:32
nextguyup
If we're doing that, could you really root for the Yankees and the Minnesota Twins for the rest of this week? No reason. No reason at all.
00:23:40
Mason
I'm going to even bring it up 10. So we're not doing that. No one knows what we're talking about, but back to me, uh, the second part to this was going to be just focus on betting because I was 10 rushing yards away from Jayden Daniels cashing a $5 bet to pay out $120. I actually had a good week last week. So if I just focus on that, which I may talk about a little bit of betting here in a minute, but if we just focus on that, then what could possibly go wrong?
00:24:08
Zack
Nothing.
00:24:08
nextguyup
What could possibly go wrong? Focus all your energy on betting.
00:24:11
Zack
Putting all of your focus on betting is just a very good idea for your mental health and for your bank account, typically.
00:24:15
Mason
and the That's what I thought.
00:24:20
nextguyup
I see no flaws in that plan whatsoever.
00:24:24
Mason
I was kind of kidding. No one sent me a helpline phone numbers. i'm I'm perfectly fine.
00:24:33
Mason
Okay, so let's ah do we want to do some NFL? Let's do some let's let's go over some. you want to start You want to go back and forth on topics or do you want to just like, yeah, let's do that.
00:24:41
nextguyup
ye Yeah, we can do that I'll kick us off with The winner I'm gonna go ahead and just tell y'all boys this right now Josh Allen is going to be getting my vote for Josh Allen of the week for the rest of the year So congrats to Josh Allen
00:24:43
Mason
You go first, kick us off.
00:24:56
Mason
Mmm.
00:25:01
nextguyup
No, but ah but and that award aside, I do want to talk about the Bill's Josh Allen and the turnaround that Joe Brady has.
00:25:13
nextguyup
Brought to this bills team. So the bills last year fire their offensive coordinator Insert Joe Brady and ever since then Josh Allen's turnovers have drastically been cut down he's taking what the defenses are giving him and This bills team looks night and day different where Josh isn't just trying to make all the big plays he's not trying to score 14 points every play like he's not trying to do too much he is doing and what good quarterbacks do and they look awesome.
00:25:43
Zack
Wow.
00:25:44
nextguyup
This is probably the most confident I've been in the Bills since Josh Allen has been the starter. I legitimately think this Bills team is the best team in the NFL right now.
00:25:55
nextguyup
I love what Joe Brady is doing. They have a solid defense but Josh Allen has stepped up his game under Joe Brady and I
00:26:02
Zack
Hmm.
00:26:04
nextguyup
I have bet Josh Allen to win MVP. I now have a feature on the bills to win the Super Bowl. This is a night and day difference of what I was talking about Josh Allen this time last year when I called him the turnover machine on it on a weekly basis.
00:26:19
Mason
You're hating on them.
00:26:19
Zack
Mm. Rod.
00:26:22
nextguyup
Joe Brady has come in and taught him to stop playing football like an idiot and play football like a smart person.
00:26:30
Zack
Stop throwing interceptions.
00:26:31
nextguyup
so i Love Joe Brady. That's all I want to say about Joe Brady I'm not gonna connect him anywhere or say where I'd like for him to end up because he's gonna be a head coach um After this season's done.
00:26:44
nextguyup
He's done such a good job So I wouldn't want to say where I want him to end up But I love Joe Brady and I think he's gonna be a great head coach.
00:26:49
Zack
This is
00:26:53
nextguyup
I loved him. Here's here's the thing Think about that Panthers team.
00:26:58
Mason
Hmm.
00:26:58
nextguyup
Think about think about that game we went to. This is the most random. I was thinking about it today. We we went we went to the Panthers Cardinals game few years ago.
00:27:04
Zack
very bad.
00:27:07
Zack
Yeah.
00:27:08
nextguyup
Stadium tour. It was the most random thing we could have ever done.
00:27:12
Mason
Yep.
00:27:13
nextguyup
Matt Rule is the head coach. Joe Brady is the offensive coordinator. Christian McCaffrey is the running back. um Sam Darnold was on that team.
00:27:24
nextguyup
Baker Mayfield was on that team. All four of those guys are having significantly significantly more success once they have left the Panthers.
00:27:32
Zack
Huh. Weird.
00:27:33
nextguyup
Hmm, coincidence, I think not.
00:27:38
Mason
No, I like it. Have you seen the fan theories of Bill Belichick coming to the Jags?
00:27:44
nextguyup
Hey Mason, I'll go ahead and tell you right now.
00:27:47
Mason
I've seen some fan theories.
00:27:47
nextguyup
don't never don't Don't ever say that to me again.
00:27:52
nextguyup
Don't ever put that don't ever don't ever even put that into existence I'd rather I'd rather our situation stay the same than build below check come be my You know, at least with urban it was fun it was entertaining it was something to talk about every week I
00:28:01
Zack
What about urban, urban Meyer or Bill Belichick?
00:28:02
Mason
Have you seen it? it's Coming back home.
00:28:11
Zack
It was.
00:28:12
Mason
You're not wrong about that. Okay. ah I would like to give my fliers on NFL. ah By the way, did you give out your odds? It was Josh Allen was plus 225, the leader.
00:28:24
nextguyup
Yeah, he is the new favorite. Yeah Mason
00:28:25
Mason
What could possibly go wrong with a favorite, ah like a Brock Purdy being the favorite? By like minus money to win MVP and then losing it with Lamar Jackson.
00:28:35
nextguyup
please don't bid Josh Allen the if you're trying to talk like don't I don't You're making my point for me
00:28:39
Mason
No, I'm just saying it's such a long season. We're not even a quarter of the way through yet. And I'm just like. why Why would you bet the favorite right now? Things could change. Like in a game it changed. In a game it changed for Jaden Daniels as well because everybody's like hyped up and was like bet, bet, bet because they saw what he did against the Bengals. I just, my late fliers would be the fact that Justin Fields is the starter and they've gone three and oh, and he's at plus 8,000. And I know I've been a big Justin Fields fan, but I would rather take big fliers. What's wrong with that? With the faces you're making.
00:29:14
Mason
um Sam Darla has been the most bet by the way since last week on MVP and he is 3-0 and it's at plus 3000 which I think he was like Obviously, it's went up quite a bit.
00:29:26
Mason
I don't know what the starting odds for him to be MVP was but it wasn't plus 3000 Wow
00:29:32
nextguyup
Plus, I saw someone put 100 bucks to win 50,000. So whatever that number is.
00:29:38
Mason
ah
00:29:41
Mason
Let's see, who else did I see? I don't hate Jordan Love if he comes back from the injury this week or next week. He's at plus 5,000. So just some like things to keep and just think about. Janice Smith there, are three and no team, plus 7,500.
00:29:57
Mason
It's just nice to have a ah big odds. Like you know this, you like to take par like huge future parlays and you're like, Oh, this is nice. Having something like a big odds in your pocket, especially if they go to become the favorite and you have like a plus 3000 in your, in your pocket there. So that's all I'm going to say.
00:30:14
nextguyup
I just think if Josh Allen keeps playing the way he has this season and the end of last season with Joe Brady Calling the plays and running the offense.
Rookie Quarterbacks Performance Analysis
00:30:26
nextguyup
I Think the bills are going to win their division. I think easily the Dolphins are in shambles The Jets are frauds until they're not
00:30:35
Mason
Yeah.
00:30:35
nextguyup
um And I think the bills could legitimately end up with the one seed in the FC So that's why I mean take it it's it's plus 225 so maybe find something to put it up You know throw a Heisman in there with him Josh Allen and Nico Heisman bet slip might be in my bet slips.
00:30:41
Mason
Okay, there you go. Well.
00:30:53
Mason
Neat.
00:30:56
nextguyup
I don't know That's
00:30:59
Mason
I put $10 down right now that it already is. Okay. So, uh, I already brought up, I already brought about, uh, brought up Jayden Daniels being the favorite for rookie of the year.
00:31:04
nextguyup
it
00:31:09
Mason
This is my next topic. I want to talk about Jane, Jane, Jane, Jane Daniels. Words are hard. Uh, plus one 30. He's the favorite to win rookie of the year. After that. Could you guess who it is tens or Zach?
00:31:21
Mason
Anybody?
00:31:22
nextguyup
would Outside neighbors.
00:31:24
Mason
Okay, you're correct. Neighbors plus 250, Marvin Harrison at plus 350, Caleb Williams. I think he was the favorite. He's at plus 700, then Bo Nix at plus 1500. Yes.
00:31:38
nextguyup
No love for my guy, Brian Thomas Jr.
00:31:41
Mason
No love. Uh, let me go back real quick. Let me see if he was even on that list. Uh, he's at plus 3,500. Okay. So I wanted to not just be like, okay, there's the odds I'm done. No, I want to go over what each player has done in the first three games. And so you told me if there's somebody that you would rather take depending on these stats that I just gave. So let's start with the wide receiver, shall we? Um, Malik neighbors, he is the leading, uh, favorite for the wide receivers. He's got 23 receptions, 271 yards and three TDs.
00:32:16
Mason
Marvin Harrison has 10 receptions, 198 yards and three touchdowns. Anything stand out to you or anything that you're, do now um not really no value in the wide receivers?
00:32:26
nextguyup
i really know yeah i don't i that's receiver is such a hard position to even for even for like offensive player of the year it's such a hard position for me to bet on because a receiver can just
00:32:28
Mason
I need to look up what how many offensive rookie of the years that weren't quarterbacks won their award.
00:32:48
nextguyup
have a game where they just don't get the targets or they have some drops and it's, you know, quarterback's going to be able to make a play every single time because they touch the ball every time. A receiver is dependent on that quarterback throwing him the ball. And so that's why I just don't trust him for any kind of season long awards.
00:33:06
Mason
Okay, so let's go ahead and focus on the quarterbacks then. Let's start with the leader, Jayden Daniels. He had a heck of a game. He broke the record for most complete the best completed percentage by a rookie in a game.
00:33:21
Mason
And he um finishes in the first three weeks with 664 yards, two TDs, and zero interceptions.
00:33:21
nextguyup
Yep.
00:33:29
Mason
He's the only rookie quarterback out of this list ah that have zero interceptions. ah Then let's go to Caleb Williams, 630 yards, two TDs, four interceptions.
00:33:44
Mason
And then to round it out, my late favorite, I think it's just because I don't, if they continue, like, if he can actually get some passing touchdowns, cause this is what's hurting him. Bo Nick, 600 passing yards, zero touchdowns, four interceptions. He's had, has he had two rushing touchdowns though? I'll have to check that, but he's had, he's been very successful on, on the ground running. So.
00:34:09
Mason
um Do you have any takeaways on what I just gave when it comes to the quarterbacks?
00:34:15
nextguyup
Yeah, I think with with Jaden what I think could really help him is the fact that he does he does have a weaker schedule and There's no weather. I think this is an underrated thing with Caleb He does play outside in Chicago. It gets bitterly cold The wind is a factor. He does have to play Green Bay and ah away game as well. You know, they're the only two teams, the NFC North without domes um and just Caleb, I don't know. He's just not putting up stats. And that's what this award is going to come down to is can your team, can you put up stats and wins stats being the more important part of offensive rookie of the year? But I think Jayden can do a little bit of both. And he does have that X factor with his legs where um it seems like Caleb doesn't really want to run for some reason.
00:35:09
nextguyup
i Do have a long shot. I'd like to throw out though if Okay, I don't know the odds I'm looking right now because this player has not played a game yet He started out the season on the PUP list It looks like he's not gonna be back this he'll he'll be back for week five um But I think this team might go on a little run not they've changed quarterbacks ah Surely he's not
00:35:12
Mason
Throw it out. That's what we're here for.
00:35:33
Mason
Uh oh. Uh oh.
00:35:39
nextguyup
just not listed.
00:35:44
nextguyup
Oh my goodness, he's not listed. Brooks, Brooks, Brooks. Nope, there he is, Jonathan Brooks. Okay. Jonathan Brooks everybody if you've watched the Panthers which for who knows why you would watch the Panthers on purpose um They're very bad, but we talked about him last week. They had a great game with Andy Dalton I think with Andy Dalton taking over you saw Chuba Hubbard and Miles Sanders kind of they did pretty good But they love this kid Jonathan Brooks, and I think he's going to explode onto the scene He missed the first four games because of the ACL tear
00:36:23
nextguyup
But I think after this week, they said he could have maybe come back by week two, but they didn't wanna rush him. I think once he is back, he's gonna hit the ground running. He was one of the best running backs in all of college football last year.
00:36:37
nextguyup
I love this kid. I have all my fantasy teams ah at plus 15,000. I think it's worth a little sprinkle dinkle. It's my first official sprinkle dinkle of the season.
00:36:48
Mason
It's a big deal
00:36:49
nextguyup
ah john Jonathan Brooks, offensive rookie of the year. ah Dollar pays a hundred and fifty one dollars like that's what I'm talking about with a sprinkle dinkle Just throw a buck on it. What what else you can do with that dollar like listen I know if every single one of you right now you log into your Jeff King's account and you're like I Have a hundred dollars. I have a hundred and seven dollars and thirty three cents You know what, you gotta get it to 105 to make it nice and round in your account. So you take that $2 and that change and you throw it on Jonathan Brooks, off offensive rookie of the year, and then you're just, you got something fun to root for. That's what the Sprinkle Dinkles are for. That is the first official Sprinkle Dinkle of the season.
00:37:31
Mason
It's a big deal. And if you had that $2.13, just laying around, it could pay out $321.63. So I will say that his odds are the same as Jalen Wright, ah Blake Corum, um Rashid Ali, troy Troy Franklin.
00:37:39
nextguyup
Sheesh.
00:37:48
nextguyup
Mm hmm. Oh yeah.
00:37:54
Mason
Some people are like, who are these people you're listening off?
00:37:56
nextguyup
Bingo, you don't know him, so I don't really know him either, but John.
00:37:57
Mason
My...
00:38:00
Mason
ah Joe Auld has a better, has a better ah chance.
00:38:03
nextguyup
As offensive lineman and offensive lineman has never won that award, there's no chance.
00:38:08
Mason
13, this is 13,000.
00:38:12
nextguyup
He has the same odds as Ricky Pearsall and that dude got shot.
00:38:17
Mason
Yeah, it's crazy. You're not wrong about that. Okay. So, uh, very good there. Why don't you go to your second topic you wanted to talk about? Are you ready for it?
00:38:29
Mason
you want me to say you want me to go again snake drapery
00:38:31
nextguyup
Yeah, you go
NFL Betting and Fantasy Insights
00:38:32
nextguyup
again. Yeah, yeah, yeah, snake it.
00:38:32
Mason
okay so while we're here um this is just something fun i like to do when i'm betting anytime touchdown parlays that i don't need to be betting and i'm like what am i doing with my life i'm looking at targets and uh reception or uh rushing attempts for
00:38:51
Mason
players. And so I wanted to call this segment, who's getting the ball. And we're going to look at target leaders and rushing attempt leaders through week three of the NFL season. So let's start with ah most targets by ah for a player.
00:39:09
Mason
ah So this is basically not receptions, essentially, but it's the quarterback is like getting it in their vicinity, ah attempting to get them the ball.
00:39:20
Mason
So do you know the the who has the most targets? ten We've already talked about this player.
00:39:27
nextguyup
Uh, the most targets.
00:39:30
Mason
Yes. but ah Well, not necessarily a landslide, but they're ahead quite a bit. They are a rookie that it's neighbors.
00:39:41
nextguyup
Neighbors.
00:39:43
Mason
He, if you think about it, nobody else, on nobody else is catching the ball for them.
00:39:43
nextguyup
That makes sense. Yeah.
00:39:48
Mason
Uh, running backs, maybe dump off passes, but Malik neighbors, uh, leads the league in targets with 37. Amara St. Brown has 32, Rishi Rice has 29, Amari Cooper has 29, Devontae Smith has 28, DJ Moore has 28, Nico Collins has 28, Devontae Adams has 27, Courtland Sutton Quite a bit. I have him as an anytime touchdown in a parlay this weekend because he's not had a touchdown yet. So he's due. That's what that means. 27, Cooper Cup. He's been out 27. Daunte Johnson 26, Garrett Wilson 26. So I don't want to like keep going forever, but did any of those like shock you, stand out? Do not really. Does it really hold any weight?
00:40:38
Mason
To me, it's like they're the ones that they're trying to get them the ball, in my opinion.
00:40:38
nextguyup
No. and
00:40:42
Mason
They trust them. They're like, you know, Daniel, Daniel Jones is just like, listen, this is the guy that I need to get the ball. So I'm even going to just get it in his vicinity. And that's what the targets are for me.
00:40:51
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:40:52
Mason
So go ahead. ten Sorry.
00:40:53
nextguyup
Yeah, no, I was just going to kind of say the same thing is that those are the guys that you want to target and free agents are not in fantasy football.
00:41:02
Mason
Yeah.
00:41:02
nextguyup
Those are guys you wanted to try to target in fantasy football. And then when you are doing your player props, yards receptions per game Use these use these trends that that mason has found and I don't know where you found these a lot of the times you can find them On draft king. I I get most of my stats from draft kings There's a few sites a few guys on twitter that I use for stats but for the most part draft kings has these in the stat hub and You can find things like this and it'll really help you Understand like how you want to bet player props because I think player player props are one of the more profitable things to bet because they are Yes, there's gonna be games where someone has a bad game and doesn't hit their props and all that stuff But for the most part a trend is a trend for a reason. It's something that consistently happens and books can't as much as they want to raise up numbers like you can't
00:41:58
nextguyup
They can't over inflate Cameron Sutton's yards and catches because he is on a bad team, but he's consistently leading the team in targets. So it's a good bet to go for after his catches or yards or things like that.
00:42:15
Mason
There you go. Okay, so last ah thing I got here is the rushing attempts. I wanna keep this in mind two things. That's a double-edged sword. I think that they're being used in the offense. they're making They're making sure they're giving them the ball, giving them the rock. ah These are running backs with most rushing attempts. However, keep this in mind for the wear and tear. Keep this in mind for injuries. So it's like a double-edged sword, like, oh, that's a good thing, but not necessarily, because i'm not All of a sudden, it's like, why do they have all these injuries? And it's because they are leading the league in rushing attempts. So Jordan Mason is the leader with 67 rushing attempts. Saquon Barkley, 63. Josh Jacobs, 62. Alvin Kamara, 61. Derek Henry, 56. Najee Harris, 55. Kyron Williams, 54.
00:43:06
Mason
ah Vermont Stevenson 52 Jonathan Taylor 51 and David Montgomery 51 So those are some of your rushing attempt leaders Anything stand out to you on that or surprise you or we just kind of like my it surprised me with Jordan Mason just because we never thought we would even be here, right, but um He seems to be doing well with that position.
00:43:24
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:43:28
Mason
Yeah, go ahead
00:43:29
nextguyup
No, I was just gonna say, really with that, I don't really have an idea of how you can use that for bedding or anything like that.
00:43:37
Mason
Yeah.
00:43:38
nextguyup
But I do, for like a fantasy football aspect, ah in general, 250 to 280 touches a season is the like average for starting running back.
00:43:53
nextguyup
So you might want to start thinking that if you got a guy like Jonathan Taylor who's already He's he's touching the ball a lot and he's having okay production Now is the time you want to try to start trading those guys To get maybe like a little lesser used back or a wide receiver um because Those touches are going to add up and they're eventually going to get nicked up and miss some time. So that's where it's nice to draft those workhorse running backs until about week five and six. Once the bye week start happening, that's when I try to trade those guys.
00:44:31
nextguyup
um So that was fantasy island with tents. um So that's that'd be my piece of advice.
00:44:35
Mason
There you go.
00:44:37
nextguyup
But for betting, I don't really have anything as far as that goes with the running backs. I don't like betting on running back stuff because it's just. They're one of the positions I feel I just get hurt randomly in the game or the backup running back, they're just like, yeah, it's going to be a backup running back game for no reason.
00:44:56
nextguyup
So I just I hate betting on running backs.
00:44:58
Mason
Yeah. JK Dobbins would be one of those people. He's third most in rushing yards and he only has 42 carries. compared to the 67 that Jordan Mason has.
00:45:06
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:45:09
Mason
So something to think about, something to think about.
00:45:11
nextguyup
Something to think about, especially if you have JK Dobbins and all your fancy football leagues.
00:45:18
Mason
Is that you?
00:45:19
nextguyup
Could be me.
00:45:19
Mason
Okay, so go ahead and finish it us out here, 10s, with the NFL. If you had, I feel like you had a couple more things that we wanted to touch on.
00:45:27
nextguyup
Yeah, ah I just have one more thing, and this could maybe this might go down a couple different paths here, but um has Justin Fields done enough to not give that job back to Russell Wilson?
00:45:35
Mason
I'm here for it
00:45:44
nextguyup
They were pretty vague about the whole injury anyway with Russell. um I think Justin Fields has done enough though. to keep that job. And the other thing is if you're the Steelers, I think the Steelers are in a weird situation because They went into the offseason with no quarterback. They traded Kenny Pickett away. Mason Rudolph left. They were just like, we're going to just start over. So they started over with Russell Wilson. They signed him first. And then they make this trade for Justin Fields. well Justin Fields is on his rookie contract. This is the last year that you have control over his rookie contract at an affordable price. And so now the Steelers are in a situation where they're 3-0 right now.
00:46:23
nextguyup
They're looking good. The defense looks great per usual and they're winning games and and the offense is doing what it needs to do with Justin Fields. So do you commit to him now? Because you're going to have, it's not even just committing to him for this season. You now have to say contract extension. You have to build the offense around him. Is that your plan?
00:46:48
nextguyup
And if that is, then you, there's no reason to go back to Russell Wilson. Cause you know what you're going to get out of Russell Wilson. And I really don't know how much longer Russell's even going to play in the league.
00:46:57
Mason
Now,
00:46:57
nextguyup
Um, so I just, I'm very, they're the Steelers are interesting team to me because if not, then what do you do?
Steelers' Quarterback Evaluation
00:47:05
nextguyup
Are you going to, cause they're not going to be bad enough to go get one of these quarter, like, you know, they're not going to pick in the top 10 unless Justin and Russell got hurt.
00:47:15
nextguyup
And even then I wouldn't be surprised if they just like went and pulled Big Ben off his couch or like, Hey man, we need you for like five games. Uh, and they'd probably win. They probably would three of them because that's what the Steelers do. You know, it's going to be a one possession game in the fourth quarter. TJ watt is going to have a strip sack or turn for a a touchdown and that's going to be the game. So.
00:47:38
nextguyup
I'm really interested. I think the Steelers team is we've talked about him a lot and neither one of us are Steelers fans, but they're just a very they're like the most interesting team in the league to me this year.
00:47:50
Mason
Yeah. So here's my thing. I'm going to, I believe that they're going to continue to go with him until if they go on a losing streak or something like obviously injury or something.
00:48:01
Mason
But, um, how many of, uh, Mike Tomlin's teams has gone to the playoffs after starting three and Oh, all of them that
00:48:14
nextguyup
I was yeah all of them.
00:48:16
Mason
Yep. So if that, if history repeats itself, then this team is going to the playoffs and a playoff team with Justin Fields. There's no reason for them to go to switch over to Russell Wilson at all. And we're in a greens here. So.
00:48:30
nextguyup
Right, so but do you think? So what does Justin Fields, to you, in your opinion, what does he have to do this season to make himself the Steelers long term? Because that's that's that's what they're looking for. They have to figure that position out because everything else on their team is legitimately a top 10, like their offensive line, top 10.
00:48:53
nextguyup
their receivers, i I think they have a top 10 unit at receiver like George Pickens is awesome. Roman Wilson, I think is going to to develop into a very good wide receiver in the NFL.
00:49:04
nextguyup
And then Calvin Austin, their slot guy is super fast and can do a lot of gadget stuff.
00:49:09
Mason
Caught a bomb. Yeah.
00:49:11
nextguyup
And then the defense is just it's a Pittsburgh Steelers defense. It's going to be top 10.
00:49:17
Mason
So here's the thing. I think if he, what did they like about, so the flashiness was not there with um Mason Rudolph, Pickett, none of those, but they what do they usually do?
00:49:27
nextguyup
like it Yeah.
00:49:31
Mason
They minimize turnovers for the most, I think if he could have more touchdowns and interceptions, minimize turnovers and they become a playoff team, which actually sounds like a lot, but Mike Tomlin has, he has a higher bar than some other, I just feel like if he minimizes if they Because they run off, what is their whole mojo?
00:49:51
Mason
Defense and run game.
00:49:53
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:49:53
Mason
So it's like, he just has to do enough to not hurt them. And that may sound simple, but it it's not. I mean, shoot, they they literally stuck with him after their whole team just scored off their kicker.
00:50:08
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:50:08
Mason
Boswell scored six field goals and they didn't even like score an offensive touchdown and Russell Wilson still could have been hurt.
00:50:16
Mason
hurt in the quotations, but um they stuck with them. So I think as long as they win games and they don't turn it over, it's that simple. so
00:50:28
nextguyup
Well that is so that is now put a pin in NFL talk this week um Good weekend of the games i'm Very excited to talk to you guys during the weekend on the discord if you want to talk about the games individually, we don't do that on the Preview because there's so many games um But let's dive into college football. It's good.
00:50:53
nextguyup
I think low key. I think everyone's circling that October 12th weekend of college football.
00:50:59
Zack
Yeah, for sure.
00:51:00
nextguyup
It's pretty lots of marquee matchups, so but this weekend I think has some very big matchups as well. So maybe under the table so far.
00:51:12
nextguyup
This has been a fun college football football season. I think we've had like. like really fun ah matchups every weekend. There's been big games, some under the radar, like you wouldn't expect this to be a good game, but it's turned into a good game kind of things happening.
00:51:28
nextguyup
So um it's, it's been fun. I think this has been maybe it's cause my NFL team just sucks, but hu it's been a really fun season so far for college football.
College Football Season Excitement
00:51:40
nextguyup
Um,
00:51:41
Mason
Is it more of because UT is doing well or is it just across the board for you? Like is it? Alabama is not as dominant. We have so many teams that we could see when it all and stuff like just knowing at the end that Georgia is going to win it all. Like what's what makes it for you?
00:51:56
nextguyup
So I I root for the balls. I am a balls fan. I jumped on that bandwagon. Right. So it's not like I didn't. like I'm not like you guys. I didn't grow up and love the balls.
00:52:07
nextguyup
But I so I like watching all kinds of college football.
00:52:11
Zack
hu
00:52:11
nextguyup
So I think this has been a good season for that. I do feel like there's not like clear cut. Oh, George is going to win it all. Like no reason to watch, like truly feel like the playoffs can be fun.
00:52:23
nextguyup
So that's it's been fun.
00:52:23
Zack
Yeah, I will say for all for all the things the playoffs have done, it has made me pay more attention to non-premier matchups around the league like i've watched more and more i don't know like this like this illinois team we talked about the nebraska game last week they have another one this week those like third or fourth places in the sec big 10 those games are starting to starting to become very important because they're those are those have playoff implications or before maybe it had
00:52:40
nextguyup
Yeah. Very. Yep.
00:52:55
Zack
which team was gonna get fourth place in the big 10 implications.
00:52:57
nextguyup
Mm
00:52:58
Zack
Now it's like, wow, these games actually matter a good bit. So I think it ah it's it's it's expanded.
00:53:01
nextguyup
hmm.
00:53:05
Zack
and in seasons past, um, I've just not paid attention very much to, especially the big 10, because it's like, what, what, who cares? Like there's Michigan, there's Ohio state. One of them is going to win it.
00:53:16
nextguyup
Right.
00:53:16
Zack
And then one of them is going to be there at the end of the season. Like, cool. But now it does, it does make me a little more interested. You've got more teams to, to be on the watch for. So pretty interesting.
00:53:27
nextguyup
And it's like and like every conference wants to perform well because Yes, if they're all gonna get one, but like how many more spots can your conference get into the playoffs? Like it's important for your third and fourth and some some conferences your fifth place team to look good against these out of conference teams to keep earning playoff spots. um So like we've been talking about there, there's a lot of good games this weekend. um we We're really starting to fire up inner conference play. I know SEC is rolling that way, big 10.
00:54:01
nextguyup
ah Zach said we've got Illinois Penn State. That's a game we're gonna touch on ah I Keep going back to the big 12. I think the big 12 is really fun It's got some wacky matchups every week where it's like a lot of contrasting styles and a lot of things to keep up with and they're just a fun conference because I don't really know how many teams they can get into the playoff other than a the at-large bid um I don't know if they're gonna be a conference that's good enough to get a second team in there, but Anyone could win their conference like there's really no one's really out of it yet of those top teams um So it makes the big 12 pretty interesting to me I think that's why I keep like I keep throw it like we were talking about which games we were gonna preview on today's episode and I was like It's a lot of big 12 for me like I'm gonna be watching a lot of big 12. I think this Saturday and
00:54:52
Zack
It has become a very interesting conversation of which of those big 12 teams is going to make it. The big 12 races become pretty, pretty fascinating. Honestly, we're in seasons past.
00:55:04
Zack
There's a real reality. No big 12 team makes. We know there's at least one and there could be more than one for sure.
00:55:08
nextguyup
right and yeah yeah they feel like a at max two to me conference but even but even then like i said i i just don't know who they're the most random like i feel like in the scc you've got three
00:55:11
Zack
So pretty, pretty fun.
00:55:18
Zack
Definitely. Definitely.
00:55:28
nextguyup
probably three to four teams that you think can win it. I mean, honestly, if I looked at the big 12, other than the teams that like just really sucked, any of them could win it. Like UCF could win. Kansas state, Oklahoma state, Utah.
00:55:39
Zack
UCF is looking pretty good. Yeah.
00:55:41
nextguyup
Like it's, it's a very, other than Colorado, they're not winning anything. um but
00:55:47
Zack
Kansas State has had flashes of looking pretty good. So is Oklahoma State.
00:55:51
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:55:53
Zack
Uh, I mean, obviously Colorado is what Colorado we've talked about them enough probably already, but a UCF has been pretty frisky, man. They they've, uh, I was, I saw a stat. They were like top five in offensive efficiency this season. So far. Um, they are, they're a legitimate team and a big 12. That's, I mean, other than Utah is pretty open. Somebody else is going to be playing in that championship game.
00:56:18
nextguyup
Why not them? Why not the why not those golden Knights, baby?
00:56:19
Zack
It's going to come down to a game on a week like this. you know It's what is going to happen. So pretty fun.
00:56:27
Zack
I liked it there in the real conference.
00:56:30
nextguyup
I'm glad they finally did join a big conference.
00:56:30
Zack
Good football. Yeah.
00:56:33
nextguyup
there They're a fun school. I like UCF. um Shout out my guy Blake Bortles. UCF, great.
00:56:42
Zack
Okay, well do do we want to run through some of these big games um and and just kind of break down some of them?
00:56:45
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:56:48
Zack
I say we we go ahead and start at the top.
Alabama vs. Georgia Preview
00:56:50
Zack
ah We've got Bama Georgia. This is a game that has been circled all for everyone, for both teams, for the SEC.
00:57:01
Zack
This is has a chance to be the highest rated game of the season um up until playoff time kicks off. Obviously we had the big SEC championship game last year that effectively kicked Georgia out of the playoffs and Alabama slid into their spot. um So there is certainly some revenge on the mind of Kirby Smart and that Georgia team Carson Beck. they They've looked pretty good except for that Kentucky game obviously.
00:57:32
Zack
They're a team that that's played Clemson and played them, I mean just destroyed Clemson, but then only beat Kentucky by one. So they're kind of a question mark at this point. Clemson I think has proven to be a better team than some of us thought at that moment. Kentucky is not a very good team probably. So they're a little bit of a question mark, another pretty banged up on the defensive line especially.
00:57:56
Zack
Um, at this point in the season, the other side is Alabama who obviously beat Wisconsin pretty, uh, handedly, but it has, but it's not had a lot of competition other than that.
00:58:06
nextguyup
Like a drum Yeah
00:58:10
Zack
So we have two teams that were pretty interested in here to, um, Heisman contender quarterbacks. I mean, this is, this is the game, uh, that is going to. Really kind of show where we're at in the SEC this season um There's been a lot of so and and before I wanted to get to a couple of storylines here and a couple of things that can frustrate me about college football, but ah The line is that Georgia plus or Georgia minus two and it's been it's been well said across the internet at this point and across every podcast you listen to that
00:58:47
Zack
ah This is the first time George Bama has been a homeowner dog since 2007 It's so that's 17 years which is the age of their ah Ryan Williams their star 17 year old wide receiver who's also been talked about on every podcast news source everywhere um And then also you heard the stat that Bama has won eight out of It's like eight out of the last nine at home.
00:59:18
Zack
Is that the stat? Shoot. I know that Kirby Smart is one in five against against Alabama at this point in his tenure, which seems bad.
00:59:21
nextguyup
It's not sharp.
00:59:29
Zack
um But here's here's here's the thing, and I keep hearing college football what people do this a lot this season. um As I've been a little more locked in into what other people are saying, They use stats like that, um but we all know that the the biggest piece of that stat is that, sure, Kirby's Mark can be one in five against Bama.
00:59:49
Zack
But what is he actually? He's 1-5 against Nick Saban. And Nick Saban's the whole the whole ah formula starts shifting around once you once you have a big piece like that.
00:59:52
nextguyup
Right.
00:59:59
Zack
There's so much name recognition, I think, in college football with programs like Alabama. I'm going to talk about Penn State in a second. We've talked about Notre Dame ad nauseam at this point on this podcast of how they start the season overrated every season.
01:00:14
Zack
And it's because people just associate those names with being good football teams. And we associate, and I think everyone's doing it, and I may get proven wrong on this, but people are associating Bama with dominant football, which is which is fine and good. But what happens whenever you lose the guy who was orchestrating everything? Do we just continue a dynasties? How many dynasties get continued to cross coaching changes? Very, truly very few.
01:00:44
nextguyup
Yeah.
01:00:45
Zack
I mean, it's on a different a different scale, obviously, but we've seen what happened to the New England Patriots. I mean, they were already kind of going downhill with Belichick at the end, but it's just not easy to try and switch over an entire coaching staff. And I think especially in college where coaching is so important, it's kind of, even with a roster that looks really good, it's kind of crazy to assume it's going to be the same team, same match-ups. With all that being said,
01:01:11
Zack
um I don't know. <unk>ve I've been on this drum since the beginning of the season. I think Bama is not as good as some people are thinking they're going to be. um And I'm not going to waver just yet. If Bama comes out and wins this game, then I will i will eat crow all of next week because that I could be wrong here. But I think playing a team like Georgia in a what I'm here's the other piece of the puzzle is all of these Bama fans are used to have 17 years of winning.
01:01:43
Zack
behind them. And I'm just going to tell you, they're not prepared. If they lose this game, what's going to happen? Because they're going to freak out there.
01:01:50
nextguyup
No, they're not.
01:01:53
Zack
I know that Alabama has lost football games. um This one is big to them because they're like this in in their heads. This is their their game where they're deciding whether or not the boar is going to be the guy.
01:02:06
Zack
this is This is where they're like, let's see if we can get it done with a good roster that a lot of it was given to him and gifted from Nick Saban. Can he get it done with the Heisman level quarterback who we didn't even have to recruit? um And if they fall flat on their faces and and then they lose this game, they're goingnna there's gonna be, the Alabama message boards are gonna be wild.
01:02:29
Zack
And I think what we're gonna, this is a home game for Bama obviously, but I think we're gonna see a very weird energy if Georgia takes a lead early.
01:02:29
nextguyup
This.
01:02:39
Zack
Where Bama fans are just kind of panicking and in the stadium. Where a normal team would be like, yeah, we're playing a big team. Let's go out there and go crazy and make a really tough environment for ah for Georgia. I think the fans are going to are in a weird spot or not, Alabama, where they they're hoping that this is going to be a good team. But I know that every single fan is like, what if the boar is not the guy?
01:03:03
Zack
What if this is what if it's over? What if our decade of dominance or whatever is done? And I know that they're all thinking it. And if if Georgia takes a lead in the first quarter, that stadium is going to shift environment quick. So.
01:03:17
nextguyup
Boo birds could be out early.
01:03:19
Zack
I don't know what's going to happen. I know these Alabama fans, a lot of them that are at school there right now, literally were not alive whenever BAMO wasn't good at football. They won't know what to do with it.
01:03:36
Zack
if they if they start losing this game early. So with all that being said, um I think Georgia is going to win in this game. I think, I don't know that it'll be a blowout. I really don't think it'll be a blowout. I think these teams are going to keep it close. I think the over under is like 48 and a half. I think it'll be decently low scoring.
01:03:55
Zack
Um, but I think Georgia wins it because of all those things at first year head coach in the sec. This is a, this is a different type of environment. Um, I think it'll just be different and Georgia wins.
01:04:10
Zack
There's my take.
01:04:14
Zack
Sorry, that was long winded, but I've been thinking about this game. I've been trying to figure out where where I'm at.
01:04:18
nextguyup
Yeah, I am Yeah, I don't know where I'm at on this game I do know this that the Tinsley underdog parlay of the week One leg of it's gonna be Alabama. I Have a rule in life that if Alabama's got a plus sign next to him. I gotta take it.
01:04:41
nextguyup
ah And that's the and that's the Nick Saban effect and we'll see if the board can keep that going for me But I just think they're too good of a program that if you're gonna give me plus odds on them With the way I do like the way they've looked I think they're they are transforming into more of the air raid Shoot out kind of style and I don't know at Georgia.
01:04:41
Zack
fair.
01:05:00
Zack
Sure.
01:05:04
nextguyup
There's something about them this year where I just don't think I They're as deep and it's physical on the defensive side as they have been in years past.
01:05:09
Zack
That's true. Definitely true.
01:05:14
nextguyup
And I don't like Carson Beck. I think Carson Beck sucks. I'll just be honest with you.
01:05:19
nextguyup
But that's hater tents.
01:05:21
Zack
i would not I would not be shocked.
01:05:21
nextguyup
That's that's not analysis.
01:05:23
Zack
I truly would not be shocked if Bama comes out and just takes over the game and and does the thing and beats like a Georgia team that has not yet proved they're the dominant. They look dominant week one, but then since then they've looked beatable.
01:05:34
nextguyup
Right.
01:05:37
nextguyup
Right.
01:05:38
Zack
So it's, it's certainly possible.
01:05:43
Zack
I don't know. It's going to be a fun game. I think it's going to be a huge game.
01:05:45
nextguyup
You don't know you don't get rich betting against either one of these programs, so I'll just take Bama because it's plus money, but it's going to be it's it will be in the discord.
01:05:49
Zack
True.
01:05:53
Zack
here Okay.
01:05:55
nextguyup
That is the one free leg of the underdog parlay of the week. You're all welcome. You got to join the discord to get the rest of it.
01:06:02
Zack
Alright, so let's, we have a couple of other games. That's obviously the biggest highest profile game but we've got a couple other big ones. um Next up we have Illinois Penn State, an Illinois team coming off of a huge win on the road against Nebraska.
01:06:18
Zack
Last week now coming up to Penn State at Penn State for Penn State's first true test of the year. Obviously Penn State played West Virginia in week one.
01:06:31
Zack
That was a West Virginia team that I think all of us thought was going to be a little bit better than they ended up. Tins was very high on that West Virginia team.
01:06:36
nextguyup
Yep. I was real high on that bus Virginia team and I hate them now.
01:06:40
Zack
If you remember. Yeah, they they do not look very good. Um in penn states the rest of penn states competition has been Not great.
01:06:45
nextguyup
Bump them.
01:06:49
Zack
They did struggle against bowling green uh for what it's worth And they put up a lot of points against kent state, but so did everyone else in the league Kent state just collected paychecks from everybody.
01:07:00
nextguyup
Who didn't?
01:07:02
Zack
So um Like four million dollars gained Uh, it was just awesome
01:07:04
nextguyup
They're gonna have a nice new workout facility.
01:07:12
Zack
But so here we are in a situation where once again, we mentioned it last week, I kind of ranted about how some of these top teams have played pretty much no one so far and Penn State falls under that category. Really, they are have been untested. Obviously, their their quarterback play has been much better than years past. ah Drew Aller is getting some early Heisman talks as well against some pretty bad teams, but his name has definitely been in that conversation.
01:07:42
Zack
um I get the feeling here that people are comparing this offense to Penn State offense past and is over hyping them a little bit because they look competent, which in some previous years their defense has been very good and offensively have just been a train wreck. Similar to an Iowa maybe. um I think they've they've overhauled on offense.
01:08:05
Zack
um Allers numbers have looked very good. He's like 70% completion percentage ah his His numbers have been outstanding but against pretty poor competition and so I think Illinois is Is much better than anyone they played so far?
01:08:21
nextguyup
Oh yeah.
01:08:21
Zack
Tens you have any thoughts about this game?
01:08:24
nextguyup
Yeah, I mean, I think what Penn State's doing is a lot different than years past. They have always put out good NFL talent, even on the offensive side. And they'd get guys in the league, and people would be like, oh, wow, why couldn't you do this in college? They never had a quarterback, and they ran stupid offenses. Well, this is the first year where they hired an actual offensive coordinator who's from this decade, got the guy from Kansas who's a very good offensive coordinator. And they've looked a lot better. Granted, like we said, it's not been against great competition.
01:08:53
nextguyup
I think Drew Aller is an OK quarterback, OK college quarterback, and he does well in that system. But this Illinois team is a Brent Billima built football team. They are going to run the ball. they're Nothing's easy. it's gonna Every yard that you get is a tough yard gained. like They are going to play tough physical football with you. They're going to run the ball. They're not going to let you be comfortable the whole game.
01:09:20
nextguyup
The fact that it's gotten up to like what, a 14 and a half, like the line's huge, isn't it?
01:09:24
Zack
It was like 18 now.
01:09:27
nextguyup
That's insane to me. I don't care.
01:09:28
Zack
I agree. Yeah.
01:09:30
nextguyup
I don't think Penn State's home field advantage is that big of a game. Now I know Brent called it out because he said, I guess they're doing a wide out, whatever that means.
01:09:40
nextguyup
So yeah he's poking the bear a little bit, but he's a coach who doesn't care. He's coached at big programs before. um And I think he truly is like embracing like, Hey, let's be the guys that ruin everyone's big 10.
01:09:52
nextguyup
Like, Oh, these are the three teams that are going to the playoffs. And I think in his head, he's like, no, I'm going to make sure I'm one of those teams. And this isn't how y'all thought it was going to go. So I, I'm definitely taking them at that, that big plus fat number.
01:10:03
Zack
Yeah.
01:10:06
nextguyup
Um, and I'm going to sprinkle dinkle the money line.
01:10:07
Zack
That number is wild to me. Yep. That number, and literally, I usually don't start doing research till like Tuesday, Wednesday for this podcast. But on Monday morning, I saw that number and I was like, what are we doing?
01:10:20
Zack
That number is crazy. This team just went and upset in Nebraska.
01:10:22
nextguyup
There's 16, right? 16 and a half?
01:10:25
Zack
Yeah, it's, it was 17 and a half, I think when I took it and it's at 18 now.
01:10:27
nextguyup
and what Okay. I knew you took it early. Now it's yeahs still moving.
01:10:30
Zack
And I kept assuming it was going to drop down because I thought that line was nuts and it still hasn't. So I don't know if there's things that we just don't know about yet. I don't know what about this Penn State team has proven that there are 18 points better than this Illinois team who has gone and beaten Nebraska.
01:10:45
Zack
They've played some good football games so far. I don't get it. That's why I bet on him.
01:10:50
nextguyup
I don't either.
01:10:51
Zack
So I'm i'm just gonna tell you right now that's going to be my bit my biggest bet of the weekend because I
01:10:51
nextguyup
Yeah.
01:10:57
Zack
I don't know. I'm not buying into the name recognition Penn State of this team is dominant.
01:11:00
nextguyup
Mm-hmm
01:11:02
Zack
i' just they They're never dominant. i was I'm not going to say they won't win.
01:11:04
nextguyup
They didn't cover against bowling green so what makes you say they're gonna do it gets Illinois That's a big number that yeah, that's that's wild to me
01:11:08
Zack
They may win the game, but 18 points is that a lot of points against a team who's looked good this year.
01:11:16
Zack
Okay, next up, we have Oklahoma State, Kansas State. A really interesting game with two teams. This is talking about Big 12 matchup. This is a huge one in the Big 12 race. ah Utah has has kind of cemented themselves at the top, but now we have two teams who looked pretty bad last week. BYU wiped the floor with Kansas State. Talk about Big 12 teams. BYU is looking pretty good.
01:11:46
nextguyup
They're not a team you want to play.
01:11:46
Zack
Um, no, they, they could, um, make some waves. I'm not, um I don't know if they'll win the big 12 and go to the, but I think they. Good.
01:11:55
nextguyup
They got a bunch of 25 year old dudes who just came off mission.
01:11:56
Zack
Um, uh,
01:11:58
nextguyup
Like they are, they're ready to play football. They're ready to push you around.
01:12:03
Zack
and then you have his Oklahoma state team who also didn't look great last week, took, um, the loss to Utah with Utah's backup quarterback in. And so now they're playing each other.
01:12:13
nextguyup
Yeah.
01:12:15
Zack
um I think a someone could look at this matchup as, I hate to already start mentioning it, but this is maybe a playoff elimination game, potentially.
01:12:24
nextguyup
ah Yeah, I think the loser of this has very slim odds to make the conference title game Yeah Win it.
01:12:29
Zack
You'd have to make the game and then probably win it to go to the playoffs.
01:12:33
nextguyup
Yeah, you have to win out the rest of the year essentially in my opinion I Agree I Think yeah, this is two teams that are just
01:12:38
Zack
Yeah, I don't think two losses in the Big 12 is going to get you super far in in the playoff committee. So 10, how do you feel about this game? Pretty interesting matchup.
01:12:54
nextguyup
i don't Kansas State's quarterback, the the the the true freshman, he's a He loves to run, he likes to run around, make plays. Backyard quarterback is what I like to think of him as.
Oklahoma State and Notre Dame Strategies
01:13:07
nextguyup
And then Oklahoma State just wants to run the ball, run the ball, and then throw 50 yards down the field. so ah The over is in play for sure.
01:13:15
nextguyup
It's gonna be on the card, but I don't know I don't have a read on who's going to win this game I think it's gonna truly come down to which quarterback throws a pick six first um That will probably be the team that wins is the one whose quarterback makes the dumber decision But I love the over Because neither one of these teams play defense
01:13:31
Zack
That's probably fair. Yeah, I don't have this. I don't have a super green on that one either. I agree. o I that.
01:13:44
nextguyup
This is a true, this is a big 12 shootout, like true shootout.
01:13:48
Zack
Yeah. Okay. We've got another big one. Louisville. Team that looks very good so far has played very little in the way of competition against a Notre Dame team who obviously had a big loss ah to and NIU.
01:13:58
nextguyup
Very good.
01:14:09
Zack
Also has a pretty big win to Texas A and&M. And so Notre Dame is looking is in a spot where they cannot really afford to lose another game here. Louisville was looking to put themselves on the map in the Big 12 race.
01:14:23
Zack
Tins, what do you see on this one?
01:14:25
nextguyup
Yeah. So unless there's an injury that I'm just not aware of, which that, that is a thing in college football. Um, they do not have to just disclose injuries, but Louisville.
01:14:34
Zack
They do now, actually. They just started. In fact, you have to report.
01:14:38
nextguyup
Okay. Well, well, ah okay.
01:14:39
Zack
They report every day now. They started last week.
01:14:44
nextguyup
Well, that's probably something to do with Utah.
01:14:45
Zack
It's brand new.
01:14:47
nextguyup
That's probably something to do with Utah and DAGM cam risings.
01:14:50
Zack
Yeah.
01:14:51
nextguyup
He started the game for one play those guys at Utah.
01:14:54
Zack
Yeah.
01:14:55
nextguyup
They're tricky um Okay, well I've not seen anything about Louisville I've been looking because there are six point underdog to Notre Dame um Nothing on this planet tells me that Notre Dame should be a six-point favor over anyone considering they lost to a Mac school and
01:15:04
Zack
yeah
01:15:15
nextguyup
It's Louisville. I like this Louisville team. I think it's going to be Louisville versus Miami and the ACC at the end of the year.
01:15:21
Zack
Yeah, I said big 12.
01:15:21
nextguyup
um No, you're good.
01:15:22
Zack
That was my fault. Louisville's in the ACC.
01:15:24
nextguyup
it's its never Who knows?
01:15:25
Zack
Sorry, everybody. So much conference realignment's happening.
01:15:30
nextguyup
Louisville could go the big 12 as of tomorrow.
01:15:31
Zack
That is definitely good, the big 20.
01:15:33
nextguyup
We but never know. Zach's just trying to leak what he's heard. um But no, I like this Louisville team. ah I like the head coach. I like how they are built.
01:15:44
nextguyup
And they're a more physical run style team. They play a good defense. I don't think Notre Dame is going to want to do that. I don't think Notre Dame is a very tough team. They are just they just suck.
01:15:55
nextguyup
I mean, we've so we I think we've talked about Notre Dame enough on here where I think everyone knows our opinion of them.
01:15:59
Zack
Yep.
01:16:01
Zack
Here's the question.
01:16:01
nextguyup
I just think, yeah, go ahead.
01:16:03
Zack
Is Riley Leonard actually good at football?
01:16:06
nextguyup
Yeah, no, he's not. I don't know where this narrative came from that he was really good at Duke last year. I watched some Duke games because I bet against them and I was like, yeah, this was easy. Like what why is everyone like, why do people like him? He's the poor man, Daniel Jones, ah which isn't a good thing because Daniel Jones sucks.
01:16:26
Zack
Yeah, I don't know. Notre Dame is is still one of those teams where I feel like they're still getting this. It comes back to the same narrative. I think they're getting the same like name recognition thing where everyone's like, um you know, maybe they ah could be, I don't know. there' just It's a weird thing right now with no Notre Dame. I don't really believe in them. I think they're pretty overrated.
01:16:56
nextguyup
um Yeah, no, I don't understand the six point favorites um I guess home field But I think part of that is just the name I don't when you know when I think of rowdy crowds that can help Turn the momentum for their football team Notre Dame does not pop up in maybe in the top 50 of my list of crowds that are going to be really crazy and you know be so loud the quarterback can't call the plays at the line like no it's it's gonna be pretty chill it's a bunch of old dudes with the Irish stuff on but that's what another name fan is I told you I hated tens was here and it counts for college too i everybody's catching them
01:17:34
Zack
That's fair. That's fair.
01:17:41
Mason
Listen, I'm not talking this whole time. I've just spent time laughing because this ten hater tends, I cannot be more. This is the best announcement of all time. Talking about Daniel Jones. Somehow he got Daniel Jones in a college segment and hating on him. I just, I love it. I'm here for it. Okay. Continue. Sorry.
01:17:58
nextguyup
No one's safe. No one's safe from taking chats. Everybody's on the table.
Colorado vs. UCF Matchup
01:18:05
nextguyup
All right.
01:18:05
Zack
OK, yeah, last game we have is um Colorado UCF.
01:18:05
nextguyup
And then last game.
01:18:16
Zack
Colorado loses this. They are.
01:18:19
nextguyup
Toast.
01:18:20
Zack
Yeah, Colorado's kind of saved their butt last week at the last second against Baylor. They've kept themselves in the national conversation for one more week. um I think UCF is going to.
01:18:34
Zack
Um, ah well, so we said it earlier, I think they're a fun team that's flown under the radars of a lot of people.
01:18:39
nextguyup
Yeah.
01:18:39
Zack
Um, they are, they are not, uh, I've been listening to, um, the Josh Pate podcast and he has them ranked way. He's very high on these people, uh, on the UCF guys, but ah I think they're not even an AP poll.
01:18:54
Zack
They're like way low. They're, uh, in like their thirties or forties ranked in the AP poll.
01:18:57
nextguyup
Yep.
01:18:58
Zack
But, um, I think they're a much better team than that. So I think they're flying under radars. I think. I honestly think they're going to handle Colorado pretty good here.
01:19:08
nextguyup
Yeah, I think they're going to do what Baylor kind of did, but I think UCF just does it at a higher level.
01:19:14
Zack
They're much better.
01:19:14
nextguyup
there They're much better. They're more sound in their technique and they are going to do it from start to finish. I do think this is going to, I think Colorado's coming in here.
01:19:27
nextguyup
with big heads, oh, we've won two games in a row. Oh, we came back and won on the last minute and then, you know, over time, blah, blah, blah. And then I think UCF's gonna just run it into their face, three plays in a row for a first down, over and over and over again.
01:19:43
Zack
Yeah, they can't stop it. They will not be able to stop it.
01:19:46
nextguyup
And then Shador Sanders is going to get sacked like eight times. um So it's UCF, it's UCF big. The jump house will be jumping. that The UCF's home field advantage is legitimate.
01:20:00
nextguyup
Like those guys get crazy down there.
01:20:04
Zack
So the line is 14 minus 14 UCF.
01:20:07
nextguyup
Yeah, give me minus 20.
01:20:10
Zack
That's pretty good.
01:20:11
nextguyup
Yeah.
Betting Picks and Strategies Discussion
01:20:12
Zack
Okay. Well, we, we've gone pretty long today. is Let's wrap up with some betting. Um, do you want to do our best bets first, or do you want to do our parlay first?
01:20:21
nextguyup
Let's do our best bets.
01:20:25
Zack
Best bets. Okay. I'm a best bet. I already kind of mentioned it earlier. I'm taking Illinois plus whatever it's at plus 18 right now. I'm still going to, I still think it's going to come back down some. Um, but I think Illinois plus that money is, is a, is a really good bet.
01:20:44
nextguyup
All right, dope Mason, what is your best bet?
01:20:48
Mason
My best bet is going to be the over on the Bengals Panthers game. Revenge game for Andy Dalton, of course. um The Bengals have gone over seven of their last nine games and um Carolina's defense has been awful.
01:21:05
Mason
So over, let me see, I had it, I just typed over on here. Let me get the over total for that game. to to to to to It is over 47. So over 47 Bengals Panthers.
01:21:16
nextguyup
I Like that yeah, I know the Bingo's defense has not been good and either is the Panthers so and revenge game for Andy Dalton Let's let's get some points scored on the board All right.
01:21:23
Mason
Yeah.
01:21:28
nextguyup
I like that my best bet. I am going with Louisville plus six I just don't see how they are this big of an underdog to a bad Notre Dame team That is all the analysis I think I need I
01:21:38
Zack
Hmm.
01:21:41
Zack
I like that.
01:21:44
nextguyup
If you don't know where we stand on Notre Dame, go listen to the last seven episodes.
01:21:45
Zack
but True.
01:21:50
nextguyup
I'm sure we've said something about them at one point or another. All right, ah next guy at parlay, which did cash last weekend.
01:21:56
Zack
Bing bong.
01:21:58
nextguyup
So don't look don't look now, ladies and gentlemen, but we're hot.
01:22:01
Zack
Getting hot.
01:22:03
nextguyup
um Mason, what is your leg? Are you going to college or are you going to stay in the NFL?
01:22:06
Mason
Okay, I'm staying, yeah.
01:22:08
Zack
Ooooh.
01:22:08
nextguyup
You've been flirting with...
01:22:11
Mason
No, i'm ah just because I've had success here lately, I'm sticking, if it's not broke, don't fix it. ah I don't know if you guys know this, NFL dogs have been insane. Like if you take Moneyline on just dogs, you're making a ton of money.
01:22:24
Mason
I don't know why we just don't do that. That's the system right there. um System 2.0. No, but for real, you and they don't know my leg on this one, so I apologize, but this might scare you guys.
01:22:36
Mason
ah New England Patriots and 49ers.
01:22:43
Mason
The spread right now is 10 and a half. Tinsley's making a face, but listen listen to what I have to say.
01:22:48
nextguyup
I'm so scared about what you're about to say.
01:22:50
Mason
49ers are one in seven against the spread in their last eight home games. and the 10 the 10 that's a big number uh but also let me throw out the injuries real quick and then i'm done um the injuries for the patriots or not the patriots i'm sorry the injuries for the 49ers questionable Trent Williams doubtful
01:23:00
nextguyup
It's a big number.
01:23:15
Mason
We all know what doubtful means. Doubtful means that it's going to turn into them being out. But um here it is. Trent Williams, questionable. Deebo Sam Samuel, doubtful. George cat Kittle, questionable. So some playmakers on the end. We already know Christian McCaffrey is not there. So give me a 10 and a half for the Patriots.
01:23:39
nextguyup
All right, I love it.
01:23:39
Mason
We have to, we have to ride.
01:23:40
Zack
Love it.
01:23:41
Mason
Thank you everybody.
01:23:42
nextguyup
I'm riding,
Buffalo Bills vs. Ravens Prediction
01:23:43
nextguyup
it's already in the slip.
01:23:43
Mason
Okay.
01:23:45
nextguyup
I'll do mine because I'm going back to the NFL, flip-flop, flip-flop, snip-snap. um i'm going you know Mason talked about dogs being profitable.
01:23:54
Zack
Oh.
01:23:56
nextguyup
I don't want the points. Give me the money line on the Buffalo Bills against the Ravens on Sunday night. ah This Buffalo Bills team is coming in healthy.
01:24:06
nextguyup
They just absolutely demolished the Jags on Monday Night Football. um This team is hot right now and I think the Bengals are the exact opposite. I think they are kind of working through some things. Yes, they won the game against the Cowboys.
01:24:23
nextguyup
But they also almost blew that lead. the The Cowboys were getting absolutely manhandled into the fourth quarter. That ended up being a three point game, had the Cowboys recovered a onside kick, a second onside kick, because they actually had recovered one earlier in the game to get even closer. They end up squaring touchdown and getting the the lead cut down even more.
01:24:45
nextguyup
ah The Ravens could have very well lost that game after holding a big lead I think the Bills are coming in very focused on on this this division and on the AFC in general and they know this is a big matchup with another team that should be at the top at the end of the year, so I Love this matchup right here. Give me the money line.
01:25:09
Zack
Alright, lastly here I think I am taking, we did not mention this game yet, but this is in the big 10.
01:25:13
nextguyup
I
01:25:17
Zack
I'm going to take USC minus 15 and a half. This USC team that took a pretty bad loss to Michigan. I mean, it wasn't a horrible loss. It would it was a hostile crowd environment. Big 10 game, Michigan, who was playing for their playoff life. Guess what? Now USC is the one playing for their playoff life. um They are trying to make a statement here that they are the team people kind of thought they were for the Michigan game. They're playing a Wisconsin team that I'm just not convinced is very good at all.
01:25:46
Zack
I think they're going to run it up as much as they can. I think Lincoln Riley's offense is going to kind of start start stretching their legs some. And then that defense is going to shut down the s Wisconsin team that I'm, like I said, I'm not sure has a lot of juice, uh, minus 15 and a half. I think they cover that.
01:26:02
nextguyup
Alright, so USC minus 15 and a half then we've got the Patriots plus ten and a half and then I've got bills money line that brings us to plus 658 for the next guy at parlay Little juicier than last week five dollars when thirty seven dollars and ninety four cents.
01:26:13
Zack
Who sheesh. Let's get it.
01:26:20
Zack
Love that.
01:26:22
nextguyup
I Love it. I love where that bet is going to be. I love the odds Might be our best bet yet
01:26:30
Zack
You poor fan.
01:26:32
nextguyup
Some people I've heard on the streets already, as soon as it came out, I got a message like, well, that might be the best bet ever.
01:26:37
Zack
it be said
01:26:40
Zack
OK, well, that's the pod for today, folks.
Wrap-Up and Discord Invitation
01:26:42
Zack
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