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SEC Win Totals, Fantastic 4, and the First Futures of the Season
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The boys break down the SEC over/under win totals for Mississippi St, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and Arkansas, talk about the Fantastic 4 movie coming out soon, and give some NFL and college futures including a hot take about North Carolina and Bill Belichick.
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Transcript
Podcast Introduction and Overview
00:00:12
Zack
What is up? Welcome back to the Next Guy Up podcast. You've got Zach and Tins here with you today. We are anxiously waiting for the arrival of the football season, both college and NFL.
00:00:26
Zack
And we've got some actual football talk for you today. We are diving into some college football stuff. We have some actual teams we're going to talk about, some numbers, some actual bets we're taking. So everyone get excited.
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Zack
Um... It's time,
Start of Football Season Discussion
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Zack
you know, time is now.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's time. We got training camp starting up this week for NFL. um College ball should be starting practices up soon as well. So we are – we're here. it's It's football season. We have a preseason football game in two weeks.
00:00:56
Zack
Wow.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Zack
It's exciting stuff right there.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We're here. For all you fantasy football heads out there, it's it's mock draft season. So it's it's just – it's here.
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Zack
We officially have our draft scheduled.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
it's We do, yeah.
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Zack
Exciting stuff.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes. I need to work on a punch. If anyone out there has any punishment ideas, send them, ah send them this way. We've been doing the waffle house thing for a while. And I think it's time to mix it up.
00:01:19
Zack
yeah
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Zack
I will say that I know it was a good punishment because it motivated me enough to like want and not lose. I really didn't want to lose. didn't tell you know it's a good punishment.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's really not a fun punishment.
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Zack
if if everyone if ah If people stop caring at some point in the season, you know it's not not a punishment enough.
00:01:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I had to do it once. I ate nine waffles. It was a bad day. It was a sad day. It was a bad day.
Movies and Comic-Con Anticipation
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Zack
um we have some um We have a lot happening in the movies as well. I will... um Tens and i neither of one of us have seen Superman yet. So we're not going do lot of Superman talk.
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Zack
um But I've heard it's pretty good.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Reviews are are good so far, so that's good.
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Zack
I would like to go see it. ah But we have made plans to see Fantastic Four next weekend together with Mason. And so expect some content coming your way on that front. We are going to...
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Zack
watch movie together. um well i think we anticipate it being a a pretty big movie.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
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Zack
ah Me personally, think it's going to bring back superheroes that they're back.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Oh, superheroes are back. Quote, quote, Zach on that.
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Zack
I think this is going to lead us back into this new section of Marvel. ah I've had this one circled for a long time as everything else is kind of just like getting us there.
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Zack
And then once we get there, it's like, okay, we're back for real. We kind of have our roadmap for where we're going all the way through a secret war. So, um, if you're in, if you're into that kind of stuff, we're going have some of that talk coming up soon.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes. Yeah, once we actually watch it.
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Zack
Um, going to break down fantastic floor.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep. Yeah, um I need Thunderbolts.
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Zack
Uh, it
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I need Thunderbolts to come out on Disney Plus already.
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Zack
a
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i assume it's probably close.
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Zack
it should be. Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So we can watch that. and I need to watch that.
00:03:17
Zack
Uh, tens and i have been pretty open about our, um, movie limit on the season on the year.
00:03:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
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Zack
So, um, Yeah, we're we're using up we're burning up Fantastic Four for one of them, so it needs to be good.
00:03:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I told Morgan, I said, ah said hey, ah I'm telling you you seven days in advance. I'm going to go see Fantastic Four in Knoxville next Sunday. said, okay, that's fine. don't care. And I was like, well, you're going to care about what time we go. She's like, that's late. Why do you want to go watch it so late? i was like, so I can get out of kids' bedtime. That's why.
00:03:48
Zack
i'm I'm reading late August or early September for Thunderbolts.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Come on. It needs –
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Zack
Yeah, we're gonna want we're we're watching an IMAX, and so we wanted the full experience.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's awesome.
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Zack
There's a nice IMAX theater up in Knoxville. ah e So we're very excited. It does put a little bit of added pressure on it when you know you've only got a couple to burn a year.
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Zack
It's like, man, if this movie sucks, it's going to be a huge bummer.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's gotten to the point. I know said on here, Morgan doesn't really care about going to movies. I take Macy to like one big Disney movie a year. Me and Morgan kind of rotate that.
00:04:23
Zack
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um And then I go see whatever big summer blockbuster it is with Zach and Mason for the pod. And that's really like the two movies I go to each year now.
00:04:33
Zack
Yeah. Last year was Deadpool Wolverine.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep. And then my movie I went with Macy was Moana 2.
00:04:40
Zack
That's big one.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So, which, I mean, it's just is what it is when you have little kids. It's hard to get to the movies.
00:04:47
Zack
Yeah, agree.
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Zack
So works out for that one though. I hope it's good. I really hope it's good.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Will shout out, though. Yeah,
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Zack
I'm going to regret not going to Superman instead.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah i don't know. I'm not as big a DC, so I'm not a big Superman fan.
00:05:03
Zack
Yeah. I hope DC... hope it's good, and I hope it kind of launches um something there. But Marvel is the proven commodity at this point. It's the one that I feel like... I don't know.
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Zack
if If they mess this up...
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It still has...
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Zack
The other side of the spectrum is if they mess the movie up, Marvel might be cooked.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Zack
cancel it all for the big ones same same
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
marvel Marvel still, for me, has that... I to go like app to watch it. ah there's I've not watched any of the Justice League movies. um i didn't see Aquaman. So they just never have had like that grip on me other than the Batman trilogy, which isn't part of that universe. Yeah.
00:05:44
Zack
it's also like the HBO Max of it all I don't have HBO Max and so I can't watch any of it after the fact uh
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That would help.
00:05:54
Zack
it's the like max versus Disney plus thing. And I do not have max. So that's a piece of the puzzle as well, but, um, that's all coming. We're pretty excited about that.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
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Zack
Um, yeah. Pumped.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Pumped.
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Zack
Uh, comic-con is also coming up this week, next weekend.
00:06:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, there'll be some big news coming.
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Zack
So it's a lot of news.
00:06:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Zack
I think we will have a big episode next week with fantastic four, but also a lot. It's the San Diego comic-con. So it's the big one. Um, Anticipate a lot of stuff getting announced. A lot of stuff coming out then. So we'll probably break down all the news from there as well.
00:06:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Love it.
00:06:33
Zack
Okay. With that in mind, we have football.
00:06:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, I think we really need to start off the the sports part of this episode and shout out the you fifteen Super Bowl champion flag football champion Jacksonville Jaguars.
00:06:50
Zack
will not Wow. Huge.
00:06:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Shout out to them. They won today. was all over ESPN. So shout out to those guys. you know That's just what what a fought hard-fought victory.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They scored the most points in a flag football game ever, apparently, in this tournament they've had as of, I think, two years.
00:07:10
Zack
Wow.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Flag football is kind of blowing up, though. ah You can go to college for it now.
00:07:18
Zack
I think that's what if that was like a farm league for the NFL?
00:07:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That'd be pretty cool.
00:07:23
Zack
Like the Jags could put like a tag on players that play on their farm team?
00:07:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, Braylon Wright. Braylon Wright, the wide receiver.
00:07:29
Zack
yeah, that could be a wrinkle. Like what if, what if, uh, if you played, if there were, um, flag football teams for each NFL team and they played like farm leagues and, uh, teams could put like one player on a, like a tag every year.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Kid was all over ESPN.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
like ah Kind of like in baseball when you get drafted in high school, like they claim your rights.
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Zack
And then, yeah.
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Zack
So then, um, once they get to the, once they get to the draft, um, Jacksonville could like trade the first-round pick for that player or not.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I like it.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Tatum, I don't know.
00:08:07
Zack
Could be the wrinkle there.
00:08:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
the pod could hear it. just He's in there screaming.
00:08:09
Zack
Yeah, I think Tatum's on that track as well.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's on there.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I like that. that's That's a good farm system right there.
00:08:17
Zack
But he'll be on the Tennessee Titans farm team.
00:08:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Tatum? Nah, we're moving back to Jacksonville.
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Zack
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Put him on a flag football team ASAP.
00:08:24
Zack
You got to make sure he plays the five-football Jacksonville.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'll drive him down once a week just to make it happen.
00:08:32
Zack
It's true. It's dedication.
00:08:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Macy did hit me with the why aren't we Titans fans we live here just the other day.
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Zack
Great question.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
had to explain to her.
00:08:40
Zack
Really good question.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Had to explain it to her.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
she's still she She likes saying, well, I think we're Titans fans.
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Zack
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
just ah
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Zack
Mmm.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
needle me It works too, I'll tell you.
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Zack
He's to get in Tatum's ear early.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
no but That would be a category seven meltdown in my house.
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Zack
Tatum, here's a map. Look. Let's see which team we're going live closest to.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah
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Zack
It's pretty confusing.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Nah, it's fine.
00:09:13
Zack
So at least no one can accuse you being a bandwagon Jacksonville fan.
00:09:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, exactly.
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Zack
At least not right now.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Not ever.
00:09:20
Zack
Maybe someday.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
there were good They were good when I was like five.
00:09:22
Zack
Yeah.
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Zack
But I think the hope is to be good enough as a team that you can be accused of bandwagon.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I wish for that all the time. I wish someone would call me a bandwagon. means we're doing something.
00:09:34
Zack
For a long time, it was impossible to bandwagon, like, a ten be a Tennessee fan bandwagon because it was, like, so miserable that, like, no one would ever choose that for themselves.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I did.
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Zack
But we've been a little bit better, and it's like, can – is it time to start gatekeeping? don't know.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right?
00:09:50
Zack
Not this season.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I just...
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Zack
We're going to – I think we're taking a step back, but did it when we sucked.
00:09:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i I chose to switch to being UT Vol fan the day they played Alabama.
00:09:59
Zack
Yeah. Yeah.
00:10:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, they played Alabama my first game as UT fan. Derek Henry absolutely demolished them by himself, and I was like, what am I What am I doing?
00:10:10
Zack
That's the key. So you have the geographic advantage. You you live close in the same state.
00:10:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
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Zack
Plus, you became a fan when we were not good.
00:10:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So, yeah.
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Zack
So you're two for two on the true fandom survey.
00:10:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah Yeah, I had to do something. i had I was getting attacked on Saturdays and Sundays from my football fandom, so I had to i had to pick.
00:10:30
Zack
That's fair. Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And I'm never switching the Jags, so like, right, I'll give up the Florida Gators. I don't care about them as much.
00:10:37
Zack
No, they're not worth it anyways.
00:10:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's not worth the fight. Yeah. think they were terrible for a while too. I was like, whatever, I'll just, I'm just switching.
00:10:45
Zack
Yeah, they were pretty bad. You know, it is what it is. You can, yeah, it's fair.
00:10:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah All right. Well, what about teams?
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Zack
Okay.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What about teams that aren't terrible?
00:11:00
Zack
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Which is actually the opposite of where you're headed.
00:11:03
Zack
Yeah. So, um, I can go ahead and do this segment. I think it'll, um, it's pretty fun. we did this last year. Um, basically the idea is I went, um,
00:11:14
Zack
16 to one through every sec team and gave ah basically a over under win total for those teams um and so draft kings or fando whoever you use um will give an over under win total that you can take um like three and a half. And you say, did they win four games or three games? And so we're goingnna break that down for every single team and kind of just give a, a 10,000 foot overview on what that team's going to look like, why we think it's going to be true. We might look at their schedules.
00:11:53
Zack
That's going play a big impact, especially in sec play because the schedule very crazy between the top and the bottom.
00:11:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
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Zack
ah Some, some teams like we're gonna talk about Arkansas in a second. We're going talk about ah Florida a little bit later. got the really short end of the stick as far as schedules go.
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Zack
And that plays just as big of impact as any as to how we think the team is going to perform. So this week we're starting with the bottom four teams. um Not necessarily a fun place to start, but here we are.
SEC Teams and Arkansas Razorbacks Analysis
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Zack
So the 16th, you know what?
00:12:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But maybe there's some money to be made down here at the bottom.
00:12:29
Zack
Those over-unders win the same amount as the top over-unders.
00:12:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Last year with Vandy, Zach hit the Vandy one early in the season, and it was plus money.
00:12:36
Zack
Andy, yeah, seven wins. I think it was like two and a half or something crazy.
00:12:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
it was It was, yeah, and it was plus it was plus money, and it hit early.
00:12:42
Zack
It was low, low, low.
00:12:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So shout out to Zach.
00:12:47
Zack
Yeah, so that, especially Vanderbilt.
00:12:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
he is He is the knower of over-under on wins.
00:12:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:54
Zack
So here we go. We're going to start with the bottom, number 16 on our list. Not Vanderbilt. ah Mississippi State. The only team with a win total of three and a half over under.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
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Zack
um Jeff Lebby. Coaching for his job right now. In a big way. um They only had two wins in 2024. This
00:13:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
is I think this is the first year for him.
00:13:24
Zack
his second year. he He was the coach last year as well.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Is it?
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Zack
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh. That's crazy.
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Zack
Yeah, but he only had two wins last
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I thought that's bad. That's really bad.
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Zack
Yeah, it's his second year. um So they have a quarterback that came back, Blake Chapin.
00:13:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Zack
um He only played four games last season after a shoulder injury. He was a former transfer from Baylor. um And so he didn't get to play very much. He kind of jacked up their whole season.
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Zack
um Three and a half wins. So really quick, um I just want to look at their schedule. I'm going to break down the kind of high points for you. um I'll give you a couple why this why this line is set at 3.5. think you'll see pretty quick.
00:14:07
Zack
um Let me list off what I feel like are their automatic wins. Southern Miss, Alcorn State, Northern Illinois.
00:14:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, most three.
00:14:15
Zack
forget about those three. um Remember, their win total 3.5. So there's there's your three. You need one other win somewhere else in the season.
00:14:27
Zack
anywhere else let me let me show let me show the rest of their schedule with you um in the non-conference they they host arizona state um that's tough one for sure um they they host tennessee they're at texas a&m at florida they uh they host texas at arkansas
00:14:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's tough.
00:14:50
Zack
You can circle that one because that one might be the determinant of they get there not.
00:14:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's got to be – that'd be the one.
00:14:55
Zack
They host Georgia. They go to Missouri. And they host Ole Miss. i mean i think So Arizona State, I think, is ah is a big question mark.
00:15:06
Zack
That's one of the better Big 12 teams versus the worst SEC team.
00:15:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Zack
um That's an interesting one for me because there's a real reality where they start off 4-0 and hit their hit their over in the first four weeks. Southern Miss, Arizona State, Alcorn State, in Northern Illinois.
00:15:26
Zack
Like that could happen.
00:15:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:15:28
Zack
If they lose to Arizona State, you're you're hoping for a miracle or you're hoping they win at Arkansas. mean, otherwise they're going to be huge, huge underdogs in every other game.
00:15:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. it It's going to come down to quarterback play because that offense is is very like high fly. It's supposed to be. They were really big on trying to get um that Oklahoma kid to transfer.
00:15:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
there.
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Zack
Max
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I can't remember. His name is Jackson or something. The kid who got benched against UT.
00:15:58
Zack
and Arnold. Yeah.
00:15:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, Jackson Arnold. That's right. um Because and up Auburn.
00:16:01
Zack
He ends up at Auburn. Fun fact.
00:16:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay. um Because I know the head coach is from Oklahoma. He coached as an OC there for a long time. Was pretty highly regarded. People were surprised he he went to Mississippi State.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
00:16:14
Zack
Hmm.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So I don't know. I don't know much about this quarterback they have. don't know.
00:16:20
Zack
All righty there.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't think he played much at Baylor.
00:16:21
Zack
ah Still gave for Baylor.
00:16:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:23
Zack
Yeah, he played four games last season, and they only won two games total. Which is pretty bad.
00:16:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. So,
00:16:29
Zack
They probably had at least three cupcakes on their schedule.
00:16:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah. And I don't know, Mississippi state, it does feel like they're always like, they're like, a but even, even with the season after Mike Leach passed away, they were like kind of scrappy and like random games.
00:16:45
Zack
Mm-hmm.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It'd be like a game. You weren't expecting them. Like they, they put up a good fight for a half. They have a really good recruits. They produce a lot of NFL talent. They just haven't kind of put it together since that happened with Mike Leach. Um,
00:16:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But I don't know this is the season either. That's that's a really hard schedule.
00:17:02
Zack
You know what? I'm taking the over.
00:17:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You think they...
00:17:05
Zack
I think they either beat they other be Arizona State and it's four games and it's it hits or um they can do something crazy somewhere else.
00:17:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and Yeah.
00:17:13
Zack
they win They win one game they're not favored in. They ruin someone else's season.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Zack
It could happen. um
00:17:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You think they'd be...
00:17:21
Zack
I mean, it's certainly not an easy schedule, but...
00:17:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Arkansas and Missouri, those would be the two that have to...
00:17:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
those have had Those are big two games because I'm pretty down on both of those teams.
00:17:30
Zack
Yeah.
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Zack
Yeah. I mean, Arkansas, we'll talk about them in a second and their schedule. um Missouri is one of those because of their schedule could be a fringe playoff team. We'll get there in this, in this exercise, but I'm going over three and a half for Mississippi state.
00:17:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I like that. I agree. You've got three cupcakes.
00:17:51
Zack
Jeff led me at this point, if he gets another three wins, I mean, I think his job is in jeopardy.
00:17:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You got to find Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:57
Zack
Um, You know, I said the same thing about Vanderbilt last year. You just have to you just have to think an SEC team is going to beat a Big 12 team, even if it's – we saw kind of what happened last season with some of those Big 12 teams coming in and just – not Arizona State, obviously. They played well.
00:18:16
Zack
But I don't know. We'll see what happens. Arizona State, that will be an interesting, like, SEC Big 12 non-conference matchup.
00:18:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Early in the season.
00:18:25
Zack
You don't get lot of those very, very early.
00:18:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:28
Zack
Yeah.
00:18:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
like that. That be fun game.
00:18:30
Zack
Okay.
00:18:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
lot of really good games in the early part of the season.
00:18:33
Zack
very The first three weeks will be very fun.
00:18:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Across... Yeah.
00:18:35
Zack
Yeah. ah There will be some awesome non-conference games this season. but I think it's like they've intentionally tried to schedule some more to fill some slots, but I mean, some of the biggest ah caliber games in the season will be played in the first three weeks.
00:18:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And that's early, you know, playoff implications. It's going to be fun.
00:18:54
Zack
Definitely.
00:18:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's going be really fun to start the season.
00:18:55
Zack
Ohio State, Texas, yeah, I mean, that's right off the bat.
00:18:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:59
Zack
that's a That's a semifinal caliber game.
00:19:02
Zack
So um moving on, we are to two teams have a four and a half win ah benchmark. I'm going to start with Kentucky Wildcats.
00:19:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh yeah.
00:19:13
Zack
Kentucky, four and a half wins is their mark to beat Mark Stoops, his 13th season with the Kentucky Wildcats. That's a lot.
00:19:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
but yeah
00:19:27
Zack
they won They had 10 wins in 2021, and then they only had four wins last year. um I think he could be fighting for his job as well. I think if he if he drops, if they only get four wins, um I think his job is seriously in jeopardy.
00:19:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Was it this hiring cycle, the whole thing with Texas A&M, or was that last year? The whole, I'm leaving for...
00:19:46
Zack
That was two years ago.
00:19:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay.
00:19:50
Zack
Yeah, that was two years ago.
00:19:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and the
00:19:51
Zack
But then they won four games, yeah.
00:19:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then they were bad. Yeah.
00:19:55
Zack
It's not good. They did did add a transfer quarterback from Texas A&M, Zach Calzada. um They did try the same exact thing from Georgia the year before with Brock Vandegrift.
00:20:05
Zack
He did not really pan out.
00:20:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:07
Zack
um Who knows? i mean, you're you're talking about some some guys who are not necessarily valued by the top programs getting kind of sent elsewhere to start for some lesser teams. So that's kind of the same situation here.
00:20:22
Zack
um four and a half ones. Let's look at the schedule really fast. gonna do the same thing. Talk about some automatic wins and then look to some potential losses.
00:20:34
Zack
Kentucky's schedule is kind of weird because they start, they have Ole Miss in the second week of the season. um They have got Toledo. They've got Eastern Michigan. So there's two Tennessee tech shout out wings up.
00:20:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wings up.
00:20:49
Zack
ah That's three.
00:20:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Watch out.
00:20:51
Zack
They have that weird schedule because they play Louisville at the end of the season. um
00:20:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:20:57
Zack
Louisville, I mean, that's not an automatic win by any stretch.
00:21:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No.
00:21:01
Zack
What it's going to come down to with both Kentucky and Vanderbilt is, and here's here's the tricky part, is I believe that when you're doing Vanderbilt and Kentucky's over-under, you're really betting on one game.
00:21:17
Zack
You're betting on how the Kentucky-Vanderbilt game falls. because that's going to determine which team goes over, which team goes under. um They play each other on November 22nd. I think that could be all or nothing for our over-under win totals.
00:21:31
Zack
um Because of...
00:21:37
Zack
Well, I put Kentucky 15th, because I believe Vanderbilt will win that game. So I'm going under Kentucky. I think they get four wins.
00:21:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Four wins. Okay.
00:21:48
Zack
Max. I mean, if you look at their schedule...
00:21:52
Zack
You're looking at Toledo, Eastern Michigan. the rest of the Listen to the rest of the schedule. um I will say that Auburn shows up a lot on some of these teams down here at the bottom. Auburn kind of has a favorable schedule.
00:22:03
Zack
um but So Auburn is an an unknown commodity as far as I'm concerned because they've got Jackson Arnold at quarterback who had a pretty underwhelming season in Oklahoma. But we've got Ole Miss, South Carolina, Georgia, Texas.
00:22:21
Zack
Tennessee, Auburn, Florida, and then they end with ah Vanderbilt, Louisville. So when you're talking about a stretch, that stretch like they've got Ole Miss, then they've got a break, then they've got South Carolina, Georgia, Texas, Tennessee, Auburn, Florida, Florida.
00:22:44
Zack
all back to back to back. I mean, that is an absolute train wreck if you are a Kentucky Wildcat there.
00:22:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's tough.
00:22:51
Zack
So I'm going under. I just don't think they get, I don't think they're going to make it.
00:22:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
out
00:22:55
Zack
I think they lose to Louisville at the end of the season. It may not even win four games. like win That could be a three win team.
00:23:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I will.
00:23:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'll throw out that Kentucky plays Tennessee Tech and then plays Vandy and Vandy plays Auburn and then Kentucky and then with UT the next week.
00:23:08
Zack
That's true.
00:23:11
Zack
Hmm.
00:23:14
Zack
that's
00:23:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So Vandy might be little beat up from Auburn and then might be have their eyes looking towards UT.
00:23:18
Zack
true that's true
00:23:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
they're Their quarterback, Vandy's quarterback, has been he's he's got a lot to say about
00:23:28
Zack
yeah that's where i was going yeah i know i know
00:23:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The state of Tennessee. i figured. So, I don't know. i don't Four wins. I agree. I do think that Kentucky over-under does come down to that game.
00:23:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Unless i do something crazy at the beginning of the year. Maybe upset South Carolina. um
00:23:46
Zack
That would be big because South Carolina is a sleeper.
00:23:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Who's...
00:23:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:49
Zack
That would really ruin South Carolina season right there. Yeah.
00:23:53
Zack
They're not recovering from that one.
00:23:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Because...
00:23:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
A lot of people were on South Carolina early this year. Like they're the, they're the fun, fun sleeper team.
00:24:00
Zack
They've got a hard schedule, but they're on Vanderbilt also plays South Carolina early Vanderbilt, Kentucky can have similar schedules in some ways.
00:24:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:07
Zack
so Um, okay. So moving to Vanderbilt, um, they're my number 14 team. Um, ah Diego Pavia obviously is returning. He is a big story.
00:24:18
Zack
He got paid presumably a lot of money to come back to Vanderbilt because I'm sure he had some offers elsewhere.
00:24:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:24
Zack
um After one of their best seasons they've had in a long time last season, their over-under is 4.5. And honestly, looking at their schedule, I think that 4.5 little bit um the Pavia effect because they've got a tough schedule as well.
00:24:45
Zack
Um, let's look at it really fast.
00:24:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They do.
00:24:47
Zack
Um, so here you're auto, my, I'm categorizing as auto wins. Obviously they're not, uh, but we're playing Charleston Southern Georgia state, Utah state.
00:24:58
Zack
Uh, there's three. I'm just going to be honest with you. The rest of the schedule is not auto wins.
00:25:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Utah State is also a ah solid – they're a solid team.
00:25:05
Zack
Um, it's not, that's, what I mean,
00:25:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
they They win that conference more times than not in football.
00:25:13
Zack
um Virginia Tech is their non-conference matchup.
00:25:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's not, and that's a
00:25:17
Zack
um That's not a cupcake by any stretch.
00:25:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Saturday night and in Bridgewater, or where do they play?
00:25:21
Zack
um
00:25:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i know they play Metallica whenever they walk in.
00:25:25
Zack
Who? Virginia Tech, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:25:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Blackwater. That stadium, they have a good home crowd.
00:25:30
Zack
I mean, it's electric environment. Second game of the season.
00:25:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and It's a night game.
00:25:35
Zack
and be It'll be big. You're right, 7.30 um so here's after those after their first So here's the rest of their schedule. um
00:25:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
tough schedule.
00:25:45
Zack
At South Carolina, at Vanderbilt, they host LSU, they host Missouri, at Texas, they host Auburn, they host Kentucky, and they're at Tennessee to end the season.
00:25:57
Zack
um So immediately, if you think of those three as wins, I think if if you see a path to five wins, you see Virginia Tech and you see Kentucky. You say if they if they can win those two games, that's five.
00:26:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:11
Zack
I think I'm assuming they're going to win those two because I'm going Vanderbilt over once again. um i am going to rely on, there are very few quarterbacks with serious SEC playing exposure, and Pavia's one of them.
00:26:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:30
Zack
I mean, as much as he gets forgotten forgotten because of the team he's on,
00:26:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:26:33
Zack
um He's one of a handful of SEC quarterbacks that have seen significant SEC action. I think the problem is is that no one is overlooking Vanderbilt anymore, especially after what happened in Alabama last season.
00:26:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And they had Texas on the ropes too. So I think people know like, Hey, this isn't just a easy win anymore.
00:26:50
Zack
Yeah.
00:26:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:26:53
Zack
Which I think was their was was in their favor last year. was People saw Vanderbilt and they're like, okay, it's Vanderbilt. We're good.
00:27:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:27:01
Zack
um No one's overlooking Diego Pavia anymore. um there will be game plans against him. um i it's It feels like with a team around him, it's going be hard to overcome that.
00:27:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:27:14
Zack
ah But I'm going to give that experience enough to beat Kentucky. ae I think they can go beat Virginia Tech. Even if they don't, I think there's that game where they they host Auburn.
00:27:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You could probably put it.
00:27:25
Zack
I think that's going to be a really interesting one.
00:27:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:28
Zack
um Missouri. Yep.
00:27:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, they host Auburn and Missouri, who I think both could be ah like a toss-up game.
00:27:34
Zack
Some big... So I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to experience. I'm giving them over four and a half wins.
00:27:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, i like I like that one a lot.
00:27:45
Zack
Okay. Last up on our list today for this week, we have the Arkansas Razorbacks. The Arkansas Razorbacks only won four wins last year.
00:27:57
Zack
um most If you're a Tennessee fan like that, that doesn't mean a lot to you because they ruined your season, or almost did at least, in a truly tragic game for Tennessee.
00:28:10
Zack
But ah they are back, and their over-under win total is 5.5. This is another really interesting one because, again, you have some experience at the quarterback position on a team that's projected to be bottom four in the SEC.
00:28:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
was
00:28:29
Zack
You have Taylin Green, who honestly, think he didn't play all of this season, but he played a lot of it.
00:28:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Was he not the starter all last year?
00:28:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He kind of took over, and maybe that's why...
00:28:36
Zack
He beat Tennessee for sure. He was the reason we lost that game.
00:28:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i wonder if that's why their win total is that high.
00:28:42
Zack
um Yeah, it could be. could be. um Bobby Petrino, offensive coordinator. Sam Pittman is 100% playing for his job this season.
00:28:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, the...
00:28:53
Zack
I think if he doesn't get to six wins, he's done. Yeah.
00:28:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The university went and hired legend at that school. I mean, take all the off-the-field stuff out of the picture.
00:29:00
Zack
Yep.
00:29:02
Zack
Yep.
00:29:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
he He's one more there than anyone. ah and They hired you hired him as your offensive coordinator, just breathing down your neck.
00:29:06
Zack
Yep. Yeah. You've got him as an offensive coordinator. um
00:29:13
Zack
The problem, once again, as we say with some of these bottom schools, is that is their schedule. um Let's talk about it really fast. um I think there's there's three that I would consider auto wins. And boy, other than that, um maybe.
00:29:27
Zack
Well, we'll talk about it. Let's talk about So, um, Alabama, A&M, Arkansas state, your boy, Bush Jones coming to town.
00:29:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
you know they butch yeah You don't think Butch Jones got one for him?
00:29:35
Zack
baby
00:29:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
you
00:29:39
Zack
They'll be hilarious. Uh, Alabama, A&M, Arkansas state coming to town. Um, you host Memphis and boy, one of the most interesting at Memphis.
00:29:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, no, it's at Memphis. It's at Memphis.
00:29:52
Zack
Oh, you're right. And that's like a kind of rivalry game. Um, One of the more interesting non-conference games of the whole season. Notre Dame at Arkansas.
00:30:04
Zack
September 27th. Fifth game of the season. um
00:30:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
that's Yeah, it's kind of weird timing.
00:30:13
Zack
i don't think no I don't think Arkansas will drop this game. But man, that would be hilarious. um If there's the funniest outcomes possible, that would be the funniest outcomes.
00:30:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's up there.
00:30:24
Zack
Losing at Arkansas to just destroy your season would be hilarious. um Notre Dame has not shied away from kind of scheduling some tougher non-conference games. think that probably comes from a strength of schedule being considered a little more heavily by the playoff committee.
00:30:39
Zack
And so ah Notre Dame has scheduled at Arkansas. So they have they host Notre Dame. They're at Tennessee. They host A&M. They host Auburn. They host Mississippi State, which I'm going assume that's a dub for Arkansas.
00:30:53
Zack
They're at LSU, at Texas, and they host Missouri. I mean, it's it's not an easy schedule.
00:31:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
oh Yeah.
00:31:01
Zack
If you're talking five and a half, I think you have to assume they are... if If you want to get to five, if you want to get to six wins, sheesh, like this is ah i mean, this is tough.
00:31:13
Zack
If you want to get the six wins, you're assuming they beat Auburn,
00:31:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
A
00:31:17
Zack
They beat Mississippi State, and then they beat either A&M or Missouri at home.
00:31:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
a and M in Missouri. Yeah.
00:31:25
Zack
I mean, that's a tough... For me, six wins for this um this Arkansas team is tough to get to.
00:31:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's that's
00:31:32
Zack
I think you've... Because they're they're also playing at Ole Miss. um
00:31:40
Zack
If you get to six wins, you're winning at least two games you're probably underdogs in, I would say. Even though they're at... Arkansas, I would say A&M and Missouri, they would underdogs.
00:31:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And they lost one of their best their best receiver from last year.
00:31:56
Zack
Yep.
00:31:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I forget his name, but he's the really, really tall guy. He was like 6'6". um He's in the NFL now.
00:32:02
Zack
The question is whether you you expect Helen Green to just take a big step up and really take over that team or not. I'm
00:32:11
Zack
going to go under. Under Arkansas.
00:32:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I would go under.
00:32:13
Zack
Five wins, I think, is max. I just don't i don't see it happening. I think at that last Missouri game, Missouri's probably playing for a playoff spot. it just about have it in my gut to to say that.
00:32:24
Zack
um Or at least a ah chance to fight for it. like they They might be an eight-win team at that point.
00:32:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I had Missouri's annoying because I did this last year too, with their stupid schedule.
00:32:32
Zack
um Needing a ninth win. Yeah, their schedule's pretty soft.
00:32:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:32:37
Zack
um Okay, so that's where we're at today. That one may be little longer than I meant for it to. But Arkansas, I've got under at five wins. ah Kentucky, under at four wins. Vanderbilt over at five wins.
00:32:51
Zack
And then Mississippi State over with four.
00:32:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I like, I, I'm going to be jumping on those with Zach. I like those. I really like the Vandy one, though. That might be a full hammer drop.
00:33:04
Zack
Yeah.
00:33:06
Zack
the Over four and a half.
00:33:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Yeah.
00:33:11
Zack
There's just spicy. beat Diego, mean, he talks trash. It's kind of what you have to do, though, if you play a program like Vanderbilt. You kind of have to have a little bit of swagger. Um, just because you're always going to be overlooked, you know,
00:33:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Got to have that underdog mentality, go prove the world wrong kind of way about you.
00:33:27
Zack
definitely.
00:33:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And he does. I like him. um So that's fun. I think that adds it. I like having more competitive teams in the SEC. Makes it more fun.
00:33:38
Zack
Yeah. And I think we're looking at probably going to nine games in the next season or two, which is just kind of check everything out more, but, um, that's a whole nother topic, but, um,
00:33:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:33:47
Zack
Yeah, SEC, after this week, we're going to see it get really tight because basically yeah. 12 through 5 are basically all going to be like 6.5 or 7.5 win totals.
00:34:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, it's like who's going to separate themselves from that middle of like just beating ah each other. each you know Yeah.
00:34:10
Zack
You're talking about like one game between another SEC team. That's going to make that difference.
00:34:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:34:16
Zack
Yeah.
00:34:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Just like last season.
00:34:17
Zack
actually i think just Florida's at six and a half and then there are a ton of seven, half, eight and a half.
00:34:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Everybody else? Seven. Okay.
00:34:24
Zack
Um, that middle of the pack is very, very tricky. Um, I mean, you're talking about all the way from like LSU, um, even like Ole Miss LSU at eight and a half down to,
00:34:46
Zack
like Missouri at 7.5, South Carolina's at 7.5, Texas A&M at 7.5.
00:34:53
Zack
That's one game that they're projecting between A&M and LSU, which LSU's being talked about as like SEC title contender
00:35:06
Zack
versus A&M and m who no one at in in South Carolina who no one's going talking about like that, and Missouri. Your 7.5's are the most interesting. 7.5's are Auburn, auburn Missouri, South Carolina, Texas A&M.
00:35:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
very like wildcard teams.
00:35:22
Zack
It's like, who knows? Yeah, could anything could happen. Then the eight and a halves Tennessee, Ole Miss, LSU.
00:35:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I am.
00:35:33
Zack
Those are your eight and a halves. Nine and a halves are everyone else.
00:35:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:35:37
Zack
Texas, Georgia, Alabama.
00:35:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Alabama is that high up, huh
00:35:42
Zack
Nine and a half. But there's no ten and a halves. Nine and a half is the highest.
00:35:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:35:47
Zack
Wait, where was Oklahoma? I missed it.
00:35:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I feel theirs was pretty low. I looked at it the other day. Because I'm pretty down on that quarterback they have.
00:35:55
Zack
Maybe it's six and a half along with Florida. Maybe they're the two six and a half.
00:36:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's pretty bad.
00:36:00
Zack
Yep. You're also six and a half. So there's two six and a half teams. So um we'll move there next week. That's a little bit of a looking ahead.
00:36:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah, seeing where we're headed. All right, I've got a couple – You guys know me. I'm ah i'm a long shot guy. I like to give out things with some juicy odds.
BYU and Clemson's Season Potential
00:36:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um I'm going over to the Big 12 was looking around. ah This is a fun conference to me. This is a conference that...
00:36:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You look at their championship game at the of the season, and it's always two different teams. It feels like it's never the same, especially with Texas and Oklahoma gone. It's just kind of opened up this whole conference for something a little bit crazy.
00:36:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um When you're your number one team to win the conference is plus 550, that tells you that anything is possible. So that being said, I'm going to the the land of the Mormons.
00:36:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We're going to take BYU plus 2,000 to win the Big 12.
00:36:54
Zack
Mmm.
00:36:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This is a team that is always ranked.
00:37:00
Zack
Pretty good.
00:37:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're always good. um there there're Their boosters have injected tons of money into this program in the last two years with NIL. They have the highest paid basketball team coming into the season, and football is not far behind.
00:37:16
Zack
Mmm.
00:37:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um So I really believe that I think they've got a lot of guys coming back. They have a lot of older guys because of the whole Mormon mission thing. They do. They have grown men. They have 25-year-old offensive and defensive linemen playing.
00:37:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
that that is That does make a difference. But when I looked at their schedule, it goes Portland State, Stanford, East Carolina, Colorado, West Virginia, Arizona, Utah is the big one, Iowa State, Texas Tech, TCU, Cincinnati, and UCF.
00:37:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So they avoid the big dogs of Arizona State and Kansas State. Those are the two favorites um to win the conference.
00:38:02
Zack
They're tied. Plus 550. Plus 2800.
00:38:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, they're both yeah plus tied 550. So in my head, at plus 2,000, you're holding a team that – They don't have to play one of those two teams, and those two teams have to play each other.
00:38:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
we're going to knock each other down a peg. This conference eats itself alive every year. i mean, this we were we were pretty close to getting Colorado into the Big 12 championship last year. I remember me and Zach took that in the middle of the season.
00:38:28
Zack
plus twenty eight hundred
00:38:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, so this is just a team this is just a conference where anything is possible. um They're always well-coached. They have older players. They've got a huge influx of NIL money.
00:38:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
plus 2,000, I will ride with BYU.
00:38:47
Zack
plus 15,000 to have the Heisman Trophy winner on the team.
00:38:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Do you have his name?
00:38:53
Zack
Nope.
00:38:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, it's just says
00:38:55
Zack
That's just like is who the Heisman Trophy winner plays for.
00:38:59
Zack
Plus 15,000. Same.
00:38:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, I can't tell you a single player from BYU, to be honest.
00:39:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:39:04
Zack
That's a problem. It's kind of a wild one, though.
00:39:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:39:12
Zack
Ohio State's plus 600.
00:39:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
to have the Heisman Trophy winner. That's because they're the quarterback and that receiver, Jeremiah Smith.
00:39:22
Zack
Yeah, it's probably mostly Jeremiah Smith, had to guess.
00:39:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, he's doing a lot of heavy lifting right there.
00:39:29
Zack
Hmm.
00:39:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right, and then this is my other long shot. When I said long shot, and then I told Zach this before we started recording, he was like, really? Like, that's, but that's their odds. I was kind of surprised too, because I feel like everybody's talking about Clemson.
00:39:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Clemson could be back um at plus 1,000 to win the national championship.
00:39:44
Zack
Yeah.
00:39:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Here's my reasoning behind it. Cade Klubnik really turned it on last season towards the end of this.
00:39:53
Zack
you
00:39:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
About the second half of the year, he he looked like the quarterback he was supposed to be. um Really got in a groove with his weapons. Clemson always has a really good defense. And, you know, they they they made the playoffs, didn't they?
00:40:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Didn't they win the ACC playoffs?
00:40:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I feel they were in the playoffs and got smoked.
00:40:14
Zack
Oh, I should know this. Hang on, hang Did they? They got smoked by George at the very beginning the season. um
00:40:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I like they ended up with two losses total.
00:40:23
Zack
Miami, did Miami make the playoffs?
00:40:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, remember they didn't make the ACC championship game.
00:40:29
Zack
Oh, gosh.
00:40:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And I'd bet on them.
00:40:31
Zack
I feel like an idiot.
00:40:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And you were trashing them as a team. And then you ended up with their quarterback.
00:40:37
Zack
They were bad. This is not a good look.
00:40:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I kind of just popped that on you. I don't know. That's my bad. um and i don't I feel like they did make the playoffs. But even if they didn't, they did.
00:40:53
Zack
They They lost to Texas.
00:40:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay. They lost to Texas. That's right.
00:40:56
Zack
First round.
00:40:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay. Here's – I mean, Clemson always has really good recruits. That just is what it is. deep Dabo Sweeney – can't say his name. always want call him Dabo Samuel for some reason.
00:41:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Is a good recruiter. I think Cade Clubnick is going to finally kind of establish herself as the recruit. He was always – he was very highly ranked coming into Clemson.
00:41:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
think he could have a breakout year. He's my – he's probably – Him and Lenore Sellers are my two Heisman picks. um I really like both of them. And I just think Clemson's playing in a really weak ACC.
00:41:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think they kind of have a cakewalk to the playoffs. And if you can give me a team I feel like is essentially guaranteed a playoff spot at plus 1,000, it's a 1-12 shot after that.
00:41:49
Zack
it's not wrong ah i should actually have that works out but yeah yeah
00:41:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And ah you got a quarterback who –
00:41:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
12 playoff teams, right? So I've got a plus 1,000 ticket for a team that's in the playoffs no matter what, in my mind.
00:42:03
Zack
It's not a bad, uh, it's not bad. I will say that you say they're in the play, no matter what they do play LSU week one.
00:42:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
but But they made the playoffs last year and they got absolutely destroyed by Georgia. you just got They have to win their conference.
00:42:15
Zack
They've got South Carolina. They don't play Miami, which you feel like has to, i mean, Miami has to feel like their biggest, so um, if Miami gets their new quarterback addition and, um,
00:42:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
but Yeah.
00:42:29
Zack
I mean, and i know that's kind of a joke, but really, i mean, he was, it's, it's maybe not Cam Ward, but it is what it is.
00:42:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Watch out, ladies and gentlemen.
00:42:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Zach.
00:42:41
Zack
um ah think Miami has to be your biggest competition there or if Florida state makes a huge jump. I mean, I know that's kind of wild after what happened last year, but you feel like that was probably fluky.
00:42:53
Zack
Maybe do play Florida state as well. Um, If there was a way they missed the playoffs, it would be losing to South Carolina. They played two SEC teams and not bad ones.
00:43:04
Zack
They play South Carolina and LSU regular season.
00:43:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right. That's true.
00:43:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm pretty low on you LSU. I'll be honest with you.
00:43:11
Zack
You're the only one.
00:43:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm pretty low. That's fine.
00:43:14
Zack
but pretty tough They're pretty hacking up right now.
00:43:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i
00:43:16
Zack
Top four.
00:43:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm a... That's cool. I can live on an island alone. Castaway style.
00:43:23
Zack
You have been a Jacksonville Jaguars fan in Tennessee for a long time.
00:43:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, exactly.
00:43:27
Zack
So...
00:43:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah But yeah, so I don't know.
00:43:32
Zack
Interesting.
00:43:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I really like Clemson plus 1,000.
00:43:34
Zack
Yeah, me too. I do too.
00:43:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I feel like that's that's that's good value.
00:43:38
Zack
Maybe one of the best late veteran quarterbacks in the nation coming back.
00:43:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
00:43:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:43:41
Zack
like
00:43:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:43:43
Zack
um One of the most like proven commodities probably um with a really good roster.
00:43:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and And a head coach who's been there and done that.
00:43:49
Zack
Yeah.
00:43:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
you know He's won two natties. He might be a dork and kind of a weirdo, but he's good football coach.
00:43:59
Zack
I joked. I mean, you do think they're going to be there. You have to feel like they're going to be in the playoff at least there with a chance.
00:44:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
At least.
00:44:06
Zack
Wow.
00:44:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean... Alright, and then my last one. Buckle up, ladies and gentlemen. This is a long shot. This might be the longest shot you've ever heard in your life.
00:44:19
Zack
wow
00:44:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This is my only NFL pick for today.
Kansas City Chiefs and NFL Speculation
00:44:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But at plus 850, I don't know what we're doing. I don't know who's pricing this stuff.
00:44:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
As the Buffalo Bills at plus 600, they can't get out of the second round the playoffs. I'm taking the Kansas City Chiefs to win Super Bowl. I think they got better as a team.
00:44:40
Zack
Very brave of you.
00:44:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes, very brave. ah I think they got better, which is dangerous for everyone to deal with.
00:44:45
Zack
Mm-hmm.
00:44:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um They added someone with a lot of speed. He like competed with Tyreek Hill's speed at the Combine. His last name is Royal. He's from Utah State. You match him up with Xavier worthy. That's a lot of speed on the outside.
00:45:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You get Rasheed rice back. I understand he's on probation for the next five years. He has to spend 30 days in jail. You can decide when to do those. You can do in the off season, do it on the weekends. There's a player in the NBA who did it for the Lakers for multiple years.
00:45:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um, so I don't, I don't, I don't condone what he did off the field receivers driving really fast. I don't know why we're doing it. You guys could find a new hobby. um But he is a difference maker as a football player.
00:45:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They upgraded the offensive line. They got one of the best left tackles in the draft. Fall to him at the end of the first round, which is one of their only weaknesses. They signed Trey Smith back. They didn't let him leave.
00:45:43
Zack
Huge contract.
00:45:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Huge. um And then they drafted a running back who is going to be the lightning to Isaiah Pacheco's thunder. Another really fast kid from another small school.
00:46:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So i don't i the Chiefs got better. I think we got a last hurrah situation because Chris Jones is going to have to get a new contract after this year, and they're not going to be able to afford it. ah Travis Kelsey, I think, is going to retire after this year.
00:46:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So at plus 850, give me the team that's been there two years in a row and is now currently sitting at like the sixth highest odds. Or the sixth, like they're sitting sixth as far as Super Bowl winners.
00:46:27
Zack
Feels pretty good.
00:46:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There's not five.
00:46:28
Zack
It's
00:46:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i don't feel like there's five teams ahead of them that are going to do it.
00:46:34
Zack
fair.
00:46:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Plus 850. Throw that in a parlay with whoever you like in college football to win the natty. And there you go. You've quadrupled your money. You're welcome.
00:46:45
Zack
Clemson to make the playoffs, minus 200.
00:46:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
oh
00:46:50
Zack
To miss, plus 155.
00:46:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wow. That's... I like that.
00:47:00
Zack
Yeah, that's pretty interesting.
00:47:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Minus 200. That makes me feel good.
00:47:02
Zack
Yeah.
00:47:05
Zack
yeah
00:47:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're like plus 190 to win the ACC.
00:47:12
Zack
I guess that makes sense because you're betting minus 200 for them to make the playoffs. So a little bit of leeway is like that they could lose the ACC championship, but still get in.
00:47:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Because you...
00:47:23
Zack
If it's like their only loss, potentially.
00:47:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. They're also favored against LSU.
00:47:27
Zack
Yeah. you yeah I mean, I don't think that I think there'll be favored, but I think that's two games that certainly are not going be like cakewalks. You're throwing into the top half of SEC caliber teams.
00:47:44
Zack
I think that's... I mean, think they can definitely beat LSU, but it's tough.
00:47:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Their schedule's
00:47:51
Zack
mean, they could also lose to that one.
00:47:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're minus 180 to make the ACC championship game. That's crazy.
00:48:00
Zack
That sounds right. Yeah.
00:48:04
Zack
I think most people think it's going to Clemson-Miami, right?
00:48:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Next highest odds.
00:48:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, Miami's at plus 130 right behind them. I'm not a Carson Beck guy, so you're not going to get me.
00:48:12
Zack
mean, same.
00:48:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i'm not I'm off the Miami hype train. You had me for a year, and you guys let me down, so I'm done with you.
00:48:18
Zack
Is there a chance, though, that Carson Beck, i mean, at this point, his career is already underperformed. He locks in.
00:48:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
there a chance he's not the starter?
00:48:27
Zack
No.
00:48:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Locks in. He transferred there because of his girlfriend, and then they broke up, and then he got his car stolen.
00:48:31
Zack
Then, I know, but now, see, now he's going to lock in He broke up. He's going to use that as fuel.
00:48:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's become a meme on TikTok.
00:48:40
Zack
Yeah, see, but here's the thing, though.
00:48:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
he He started dating a TikTok girl. That was a bad decision.
00:48:44
Zack
But here's the thing. I'm sort of in on Carson Bay.
00:48:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's going to be a meme.
00:48:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He throws one bad interception, and and he's memed.
00:48:52
Zack
In like a very confusing way. um
00:48:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You're in on Carson Beck?
00:48:59
Zack
I think moving from Georgia to Miami is going to the opposite effect as it would to most people. I think it's going to be like, every he's going to wake and be like, I'm only here because of my ex-girlfriend.
00:49:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Are you...
00:49:11
Zack
He's going to be like, this situation is... He's just going to totally lock in and be like, you know what? I was supposed to be in the NFL already.
00:49:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's not an NFL guy.
00:49:21
Zack
It's now or never. It's now or never. Let's ride.
00:49:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's going to last in the NFL about as long as Jake Fromm did.
00:49:29
Zack
I think the other side of the argument is he's now playing against ACC competition instead of SEC competition. So... um he like downgraded significantly into the type of defenses he was playing against.
00:49:41
Zack
You have to think it's going to help him somehow.
00:49:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But I feel like he was like the thing holding back Georgia the last couple years.
00:49:48
Zack
But it's like going from playing varsity to like playing junior varsity. It's like the game is moving slower than it was before.
00:49:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's true. I guess, yeah. The ACC is bad. The ACC has fallen off.
00:49:59
Zack
There's a chance he just dices up most of the ACC competition. Now, what would he do against the upper echelon? i don't know.
00:50:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I can't wait to see...
00:50:07
Zack
but you have to think it's going be an upgrade for them.
00:50:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i can't wait to see...
00:50:11
Zack
Not an upgrade on Cam Ward, but you have to think and he's a, I didn't mean that.
00:50:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh.
00:50:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
oh
00:50:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Clip it.
00:50:19
Zack
I forgot where Cam Ward played.
00:50:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Clip it, clip it, clip it.
00:50:21
Zack
Cam Ward obviously is untouchable. So he did truly.
00:50:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
he He carried that team last year. He really did. ah I can't wait to see what Jordan on and Bill Belichick do to um to everyone in this league.
00:50:34
Zack
You know, what a, what an absolute crazy wrinkle. The question is like whether Bill Belichick's ego like will allow him to be a mediocre college coach or not.
00:50:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Scheme? Oh.
00:50:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right. Like...
00:50:49
Zack
like You have to think there's something in him that the first game he loses, he's going to be like, I'm not going out like this. And he's going to get the together and be like, guys, here's a new team.
00:50:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You're not going to embarrass me.
00:51:01
Zack
We're it like, we're changing everything. this is the This is for real now. um i actually decided I was going to like do some stuff this week.
00:51:11
Zack
I'm not going out like this. And he just like totally turns the team around.
00:51:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:51:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I just... That's the North Carolina could be like a weapon and actually like really good.
00:51:20
Zack
Yeah.
00:51:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Or it could be a dumpster fire, but I just don't know how Belichick gets... Like he had the best, like the NFL is the top 1% of football players in the world.
00:51:31
Zack
Oh, yeah.
00:51:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There's dudes, even in college, even at big programs like this, that are never going to touch the NFL. They're just not good enough.
00:51:38
Zack
Yep.
00:51:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And he has to like use those guys and they have to start they have to play. But he's Bill Belichick. So we'll see.
00:51:45
Zack
Yep.
00:51:48
Zack
it's It's just like the exact mirror of the Colorado situation where the coach is obviously just overshadowing the program in a pretty big way.
00:51:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Right.
00:51:59
Zack
And there's so many distractions, but at the end of the day, it's like the coach is going to bring talent. And who knows? Like, you know that they can build, build, on the other hand has a history of like, we know he's ah an elite coach, which is kind of the, where the comparison is like, ah it's like a mirror.
00:52:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
right
00:52:19
Zack
It's so it's similar in a lot of ways. I think there's going to be a lot of like, it's going be a sideshow and especially the whole ah Jordan of it all is real.
00:52:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Jordan.
00:52:30
Zack
Yes. We're done. That's really good. Throw a wrinkle. um but it in the same way, that's what it was at Colorado. It was like a big sideshow. And then when it came to the football, it was like, yeah, you got some good players.
00:52:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:52:42
Zack
Um, you have a Heisman player, which is great. You've got a quarterback. Everyone else is just kind of what it is.
00:52:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. We'll see how good Colorado is without they lost a lot of guys.
00:52:54
Zack
I think struggle. But what north carolinajuana has but North Carolina has that Colorado did not have was a six-time Super Bowl winning head coach.
00:52:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
See how good of a coach Dion is.
00:53:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
True. And a very good staff. His staff is crazy. It's an NFL staff.
00:53:11
Zack
So, including his son.
00:53:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
His son? Yeah. Future Air head coach at North Carolina. I feel bad for his son. His son...
00:53:19
Zack
weird situation. I don't understand it.
00:53:22
Zack
Yeah.
00:53:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He is a good coach.
00:53:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He is actually a very good coach. He was the defensive back coach for the Patriots for a long time. He was the defensive coordinator under Bill.
00:53:28
Zack
Washington, right?
00:53:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
hugh He went to Washington last year and was the defensive coordinator. He's a good coach. like he But he gets the nepotism thing just because whose dad is.
00:53:36
Zack
I don't know why we why that had to happen. I feel like there was a path for him to do it naturally.
00:53:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Instead of it being in the contract.
00:53:42
Zack
It didn't have to be like this.
00:53:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:46
Zack
Yeah, it's weird stuff. And then for your dad to be dating someone like much younger than you, a has to be very odd.
00:53:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah she's Yeah, she would be young for him to be dating.
00:53:58
Zack
um I do feel for him.
00:54:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:54:02
Zack
As far as the team goes, but i wonder what their over-under win total is. Do you know? Off the top of
00:54:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't. Well, it popped in my head just because I saw their chances to make the ACC title game was Yeah, plus 1,400.
00:54:10
Zack
your head?
00:54:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:54:21
Zack
They could be a sleeper, to be honest with you.
00:54:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're below the likes of Georgia Tech, Duke, Florida State, Virginia Tech, and then it's North Carolina.
00:54:25
Zack
What if...
00:54:31
Zack
but if
00:54:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What if, though? wonder if they just got like a bad schedule.
00:54:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I could not tell you. i don't know anything i don't know who their quarterback is.
00:54:40
Zack
What if? Plus 30,000 to win it all. I'll let you know.
00:54:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
right, well, is it time to talk about the potential WNBA lockout?
00:54:55
Zack
Yep. That's what we came here for.
00:54:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right. Let's toss it to Mason, our expert on legal advice and contracts.
00:55:08
Zack
OK.
00:55:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right. Thanks, Mason.
00:55:15
Zack
Yeah, um I mean, you know, i guess do it.
00:55:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i was
00:55:20
Zack
Sure.
00:55:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i was I was trying to find their overrunner on North Carolina wins. I can't even find it.
00:55:25
Zack
can find it either.
00:55:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It won't pop it won't popff at up. That means it has to be bad. It has to be like three and a half or four. Four and a half. It has to be bad.
00:55:35
Zack
Oh, listen to this.
00:55:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm listening.
00:55:39
Zack
How is this? oh I found it. Seven and a half.
00:55:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Seven and a half?
00:55:45
Zack
Under is minus 165.
00:55:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They must have some cake out of conference.
00:55:52
Zack
um This is an actual bet you can make. Most regular season wins Colorado versus North Carolina.
00:56:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
the two The two sideshows.
00:56:01
Zack
They had the exact same conversation we did. um North Carolina is minus 165.
00:56:08
Zack
Colorado's plus 230.
00:56:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Colorado plays in a tougher conference.
00:56:15
Zack
Tie is plus 650.
00:56:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right, here we go.
00:56:19
Zack
I know. Big 12 is maybe tougher, like top to bottom.
00:56:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
North Carolina.
00:56:23
Zack
But ACC is very top heavy. Okay.
00:56:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
right, we'll listen to this. Listen to this North Carolina schedule. TCU.
00:56:30
Zack
Okay.
00:56:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Charlotte. Richmond.
00:56:34
Zack
Tough.
00:56:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
UCF.
00:56:37
Zack
Okay.
00:56:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
then Then we got Clemson.
00:56:39
Zack
Yeah.
00:56:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cal.
00:56:40
Zack
They're 14 point underdogs in that game. They already have that number at least.
00:56:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Gosh. Cal.
00:56:45
Zack
Okay.
00:56:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Virginia. Syracuse. Stanford. Wake Forest. Duke. NC State.
00:56:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Zach.
00:57:00
Zack
That might be a smash the over on that one.
00:57:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It might be.
00:57:06
Zack
Man.
00:57:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What was it for them against Colorado? Plus what?
00:57:11
Zack
um They're minus money.
00:57:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, okay.
00:57:14
Zack
They're minus 165. Yeah,
00:57:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, okay, well, that checks out. Still, seven and a half wins. I kind of like that. Cal stinks. Stanford stinks.
00:57:24
Zack
yeah Syracuse has like a five and a half win total.
00:57:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, Syracuse is terrible.
00:57:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's a secret. you had You had to get through a lot to get here.
00:57:33
Zack
they play play Stanford and Cal? what do they like How do they schedule a West Coast?
00:57:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know.
00:57:40
Zack
Both of them. some like Paxwell rejects and some.
00:57:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah well
00:57:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think they're both. there ah One's at home, one's away.
00:57:53
Zack
What are we doing?
00:57:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They got Cal in Cal, but then they get Stanford at home. Wake Forest, they're dumpster fire. Dude, seven and a half wins.
00:58:02
Zack
I think, I mean, that's not going to be easy. Again, it's going to depend on whether Bill Belichick, like we're going to know against Clemson, If Bill Belichick is like, if he if he feels okay with losing by like three touchdowns to Clemson or not.
00:58:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:58:20
Zack
It's like whether he can allow it to happen.
00:58:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:58:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I feel who they play after that. Cause I might smash.
00:58:25
Zack
If he's just like chill with it, then we then they they may not hit that.
00:58:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, dude. They play Cal the next week. He's going to take out a lot of frustration on Cal.
00:58:31
Zack
Yeah, they might be good. she What?
00:58:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Jordan's going to be calling plays.
00:58:37
Zack
I mean, I think there's still like a non-zero chance he does it like he doesn't make it through the season.
00:58:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're going to be up by so many.
00:58:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He just is like, I'm not dealing with this crap.
00:58:43
Zack
like He's like, guys, I'm too old for this. I'm i'm out.
00:58:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm not.
00:58:48
Zack
Or like Jordan gets in some pretty serious trouble with like doing something stupid in the media. He's like, yeah, we got we're out of here.
00:58:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm just, I'm retiring. Go take my Fox, my Fox noon job, sit on the desk.
00:59:01
Zack
Okay.
00:59:04
Zack
o okay
00:59:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm taking, I'm taking seven and a half.
00:59:07
Zack
Yeah, I think I have to.
00:59:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm sprinkling, I'm sprinkling them to make it to the ACC championship game too. It's just money. Who cares? Yeah.
00:59:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Listen, if you made it this far if you made it through all this to those secret bets right there, congratulations. You just made a lot of money.
00:59:22
Zack
yeahs that's a good bet. Seven and a half. Bill Balotich, do you really think he's going to feel good about a seven win college football season?
00:59:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's awesome.
00:59:31
Zack
No.
00:59:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't even know how we got here.
00:59:35
Zack
Yeah. it's the perfect conference just to just to come in and be like, you know what, what if I just like, what if I just won a bunch of games?
00:59:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Just to kind of take anything. cut
00:59:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What if? I mean, it's, yeah, they're the most wide open conference because it just feels like they all stink.
00:59:51
Zack
What if I just take mediocre quarterback and make him into like a Heisman candidate?
00:59:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The quarterback they have is like a super athletic kid too.
00:59:56
Zack
Like, what if? That's what he would do. That's what he would, that's how he would do it.
01:00:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:00:03
Zack
He'd be like, what if we just like had a good defense and I made this kid into something special.
01:00:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's going to just walk up to him back and listen. Just we'll get you paid here in North Carolina. You're not going to the NFL anyway. So let's just be a college legend real quick.
01:00:18
Zack
Let's do it. Man, that'd be awesome.
01:00:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, now you now I'm believing in North Carolina.
01:00:21
Zack
I think that would be a lighter.
01:00:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't even know how we got here.
01:00:26
Zack
I don't know a single player on their team. think I literally don't know a single player their roster.
01:00:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah just know the quarterback because I bet on him some last year and he threw a really bad pick and I i wanted to scream.
01:00:39
Zack
Okay, well, thanks everyone for listening in.
01:00:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Jacoby Criswell.
01:00:43
Zack
appreciate everyone made it this far. ah Go Tar Heels. ah we're We're all in on the Tar Heels. a
01:00:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I can't wait to listen back on how we started. Where did North Carolina even first come up for us?
01:00:56
Zack
I think it was hcc it's ACC championship stuff, and it was like, what if Bill Belichick just put together a wild season?
01:01:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's right.
01:01:05
Zack
It came out of nowhere.
01:01:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I love it.
01:01:08
Zack
It'll be fun.
Podcast Conclusion and Future Content
01:01:09
Zack
ah That would be fun.
01:01:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That would be awesome.
01:01:11
Zack
Bill Belichick versus Dado Sweeney in the ACC championship. Can you imagine that?
01:01:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That would be
01:01:18
Zack
It'd be must-watch television. i mean, that would truly be like, that would no would du it would do numbies on the TV.
01:01:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's clear your schedules.
01:01:24
Zack
that' That's like the ACC exec's dream.
01:01:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That is.
01:01:32
Zack
That might compete with like the ACC championship.
01:01:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
it really would.
01:01:39
Zack
Okay, well, thank you all for listening.
01:01:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I love that.
01:01:41
Zack
We appreciate you guys next week. i Expect some Fantastic Four content coming out. um Expect some more SEC over-under win totals. We will have it all coming and at you. We are excited to get back into the swing of things here.
01:01:54
Zack
Thanks for listening, and we will see you next time.