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Star Wars Draft, Andor, and Thunderbolts
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The boys discuss the new season of Andor, talk about the state of Marvel and early reactions to Thunderbolts, and draft some of their favorite movies, TV shows, and characters fromthe Star Wars universe.
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Transcript
Introduction and Sweets Debate
00:00:13
Mason
What is up everybody welcome to this episode of the next guy up podcast I got Tinsley here i got Zach here and today that we're recording this may the fourth be with you all how's it going guys so how we doing
00:00:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, it's it's going. It's going great. We're we're out here just on the grind. I've got a Dairy Queen. um Well, I had a milkshake. It's gone. I drank it. Orange squeeze. The worst thing Dairy Queen does is put the orange squeeze milkshake out at the same time as the s'mores blizzard.
00:00:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Making me have the choose between the two.
00:00:44
Mason
You have to choose. You
00:00:46
Zack
Or you just go twice as much.
00:00:48
Mason
get both.
00:00:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, or I still I saw a bite of Macy's Blizzard and told her it was the dad tax. She didn't like that.
00:00:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
She says that's not a thing.
00:00:55
Zack
Got him.
00:00:56
Zack
Got to get him ready.
00:00:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
She does not like that joke when I do that.
00:01:00
Zack
Wait till they hear about the tariffs.
Star Wars Fandom and Draft Preview
00:01:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Speaking of which, Mason, we got a tariff update?
00:01:03
Zack
Toy tariffs.
00:01:03
Mason
I'm.
00:01:06
Mason
Yeah, we're going to break that down today, right? Okay, let's go ahead and talk about it. So I'm just kidding. But ah do it what blizzard did she get? Was it the s'mores?
00:01:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
She got the s'mores.
00:01:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:01:15
Mason
Okay, so there you go.
00:01:16
Zack
Of course.
00:01:17
Mason
So you did get...
00:01:18
Zack
Of course.
00:01:19
Mason
You had to double up on that spoonful for the s'mores blizzard. That's my favorite blizzard of all time. I'm glad it's back. We've gone several times. So you can get pup cups for your dogs and it's full ice cream. So if you want to get your dogs just hyped up on sugar...
00:01:35
Zack
Wow.
00:01:36
Mason
ah I was like, I didn't know dogs could be ice cream, but they're, they do.
00:01:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You mean whipped cream?
00:01:39
Zack
I saw the squeaking noise in the background.
00:01:40
Mason
No, they have actual ice cream that you can do in the cups and it's a pup cup. Yeah.
00:01:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You know they sell like dog healthy pup cups at Walmart like in the ice cream aisle?
00:01:51
Zack
Gross.
00:01:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's like ice cream for dogs.
00:01:55
Zack
Hmm. We're just getting a spoonful of peanut butter and she'll be just as happy.
00:01:56
Mason
Sounds like a punishment we should do.
00:01:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I wouldn't. Mason, why are you bringing up punishments? This never goes well for you.
00:02:04
Zack
Mason, want punch me?
00:02:05
Mason
Every single time I bring them up, I have to do him So maybe, maybe I should just stop bringing them up. It's
00:02:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Probably.
00:02:14
Mason
not a bad idea.
00:02:17
Mason
Okay. So we got an episode prepared for everybody. Um, we're going we're just going to break down some star Wars stuff going on.
00:02:19
Zack
Love it.
00:02:25
Zack
Yeah.
00:02:25
Mason
And we also have a draft, uh, Zach, you want to, and and should we talk about it or should we wait for like the details of the draft?
00:02:28
Zack
Hmm. Hmm.
00:02:33
Zack
Oh, for the draft? we're drafting some Star Wars stuff. It's going to be fun. um We are just drafting some different categories. Favorite movies and shows and some of our favorite ah Jedi, Sith. I think it'll be a fun time. So we're going to get there.
00:02:47
Zack
I'm sure that everyone's going to really be happy with our picks.
Marvel vs DC Cinematic Debate
00:02:50
Zack
It's going to be a really reasonable discourse on the internet about how good we are at drafting and how inaudible we are about Star Wars.
00:02:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
oop
00:02:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:56
Zack
So excited for that one. Star Wars is one of those things where
00:03:03
Zack
Like people casually watch like the NFL, you know, lot of people catch the NFL.
00:03:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:03:10
Zack
And you can be like, yeah, it's my favorite team. um And you don't have to know like every starting player on every team to have a conversation. Star Wars is one of those things where some people it's like, if you don't know every single thing about every single canon about every event, then you're like, what do you, you don't know anything about Star Wars.
00:03:29
Zack
It's like, I just watched the movie and it's fun.
00:03:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You're getting attacked.
00:03:33
Zack
It's like, you know, it's a fun thing. I don't i't know what to tell you.
00:03:36
Mason
It's a dedicated fan base. I feel like that and Harry Potter are like the two that come to mind where it's like you get scolded if you don't know every little small detail.
00:03:48
Mason
I could be wrong, but you got some diehard and trivia nights. I feel like there's a lot of diehard fans out there. Know way more than I do.
00:03:54
Zack
Well, it's because of the extended Star Wars universe what makes it so hard is because there's so many different medias out there. There's so many different kind of more obscure books and and TV shows and stuff that's been written over time that is so massive. To know all of it is just kind of wild.
00:04:15
Zack
you Most people can't, so... Yeah, I'm a person who really likes watching um the stuff when it comes out, but I'm not the one who knows the depths of it. The people who are, I mean, that's the best that's cool. there There are topics that i I certainly am pretty well versed in, more well versed in most of the population. Yeah, interesting.
00:04:39
Zack
Interesting.
00:04:41
Mason
One thing that comes to mind that's not Star Wars related at all, that's just like the amount of that it goes into detail and depth would be Dungeons and Dragons.
00:04:52
Mason
I've never even started to try to learn something like that because I feel like it would take my whole lifetime just to understand the amount of characters and details that go into that.
00:05:03
Mason
i don't know if either of you have ever even known anybody that plays or heard of it or, you know, but it seems very in-depth.
00:05:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know people that play. i i want to play Dungeons & Dragons. I think it'd be fun. But it's, yeah, you have to like, you have to know someone who, I guess, yeah.
00:05:20
Mason
You buy cards and pieces and stuff.
00:05:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You have to like know someone who knows how to play it because it's it's like adventure-based. like It's not just like Catan or something where you can just buy the board game and play it.
00:05:36
Mason
I also feel like it takes a really long time.
00:05:37
Zack
Yeah.
00:05:39
Mason
Probably longer than Monopoly. It's a long, drawn-out game. It takes a lot effort.
00:05:44
Zack
Could be multiple settings.
00:05:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
true yeah people have
00:05:46
Mason
Yeah.
00:05:47
Zack
I've got to play about Pokemon sometimes too. Pokemon is like there's the top level and then there's like all the stuff that goes with it sometimes and all the different.
00:05:51
Mason
Thank you.
00:05:57
Zack
It's hard to access at times, you know?
00:06:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah pokemon's a big world and so especially since they keep coming out with like new gens of it like I don't know. I'm pretty big. I like Pokemon. I collect Pokemon cards, but anything like the the last... the I don't know much past the first three generations of Pokemon.
00:06:23
Mason
We'll collect cards, obviously, and I'll see some Pokemon that are are like newer. And I'm like, what in the world is this? There's one that's like called Veroom or something. And it's like an engine that has like a face on it.
00:06:34
Mason
I'm like, that's not a Pokemon. That's like, what is that? It's like a car engine with a face on it. So they're running out of ideas and they just like steal from like just, well, I guess a lot of them were already animals that are just a different variation to make the Pokemon, but.
00:06:51
Mason
um I would like to know how many there are. and Can we do guesses on how many Pokemon there are now that they've created? Because wasn't what was it? One five one was the.
00:06:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
988 yeah the I think the original yeah 151 was the first gen but I think 988 that's my guess
00:07:00
Mason
988. Zach.
00:07:11
Mason
za
00:07:12
Zack
My guess is 1,457. Close, Wow.
00:07:16
Mason
I'm going to go low then. I'm going to go 750. Let's answer is 1025. As of March of 2025.
00:07:26
Mason
and the answer is
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay. Yep.
00:07:28
Mason
one thousand and twenty five
00:07:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wow. I win.
00:07:32
Mason
as of march of twenty twenty five
00:07:32
Zack
oh and
00:07:36
Zack
wow Well, speaking of fandoms, um there's been some talk in fandom we're all part of, except for Mason.
00:07:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, except for Mason.
00:07:48
Zack
The Marvel Cinematic Universe.
00:07:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, Mason's not a fan.
00:07:49
Mason
ah
00:07:52
Zack
Mason's out on the MCU.
00:07:53
Mason
You need listen. Have you watched it yet?
00:07:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Pick a new favorite movie, Mason.
00:07:58
Zack
ah So Thunderbolts is out. It's got a lot of positive reviews.
00:08:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mason's a DC guy now.
00:08:03
Zack
um A lot of people have said it's it's a return to form. I've heard very good things about it. I've heard there's been a change of direction. Kevin Feige came out with an interview saying that the last couple of years he's been really overwhelmed and has been overworked and hasn't been able to keep his finger on the pulse as much. He said that's changing.
00:08:21
Zack
He said they've changed some of their writing direction and kind of how they're doing things. And this was the first movie kind of under this new umbrella. And it's been very positive reactions. Mason, still a hater.
00:08:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And
00:08:34
Mason
Not a hater.
00:08:34
Zack
Mason doesn't believe.
00:08:35
Mason
Not a hater.
00:08:36
Zack
He said...
00:08:36
Mason
I've not seen it yet.
00:08:37
Zack
I'll believe it when I see it.
00:08:39
Mason
So if Zach was an NBA player, he would be steph Curry shooting up the three, and before he sees it go in the basket, he turns around to celebrate.
00:08:51
Mason
And it could hit the rim and miss. It could be an air ball. It could go straight in. He has not seen it yet, and he said he called a shot on Marvel's back because of Thunderbolts.
00:08:59
Zack
Mason, there other people have seen it.
00:09:02
Zack
It's like Steph Curry turning around and then the crowd is cheering because they saw it go in.
00:09:02
Mason
I know.
00:09:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and
00:09:02
Mason
I'm just...
00:09:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Zach called a shot a year ago.
00:09:07
Mason
but you've not seen it yet.
00:09:08
Zack
Your analogy broken, Mason.
00:09:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Zach's been...
00:09:10
Mason
He called the shot that Marvel's back, but he has not seen the movie yet.
00:09:12
Zack
At the beginning of this year, go back and listen to the pod.
00:09:13
Mason
I'm just...
00:09:14
Zack
Listen to the hype pod. I said, guys, I think Thunderbolts is going to be good.
00:09:16
Mason
What are we even fighting about right now? All I'm asking is just before you celebrate. Okay, but it's the weekend. If it was that great, you would have already saw it.
00:09:26
Zack
Mason, listen, if i
00:09:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Says the childless guy.
00:09:29
Zack
yes if I throw up a three, I turn around with my hands up in the air like Steph.
00:09:31
Mason
It's...
00:09:35
Zack
And then I hear the crowd roar and they're like, wow, what a great shot, Steph. Thank you for hitting that. what do you What do you think happened? Do you think I bricked it airballed?
00:09:46
Mason
Okay, all I'm asking is for you... why Why are you judging what other people think? You could not like the movie. All I was saying is wait until you see it.
00:09:53
Zack
I like it.
00:09:55
Mason
Wait until you see it before you celebrate how good it is. That's all I'm asking. I think that's a reasonable ask. And they're all calling me haters.
00:10:00
Zack
I'm celebrating victory lap.
00:10:03
Mason
um I'm excited to see it.
00:10:03
Zack
We're back, baby.
00:10:04
Mason
I've just not seen it yet, so I can't i can't say much about it. That's like Fantastic Four.
00:10:08
Zack
Marvel's back.
00:10:10
Mason
You've said that Marvel's back because of Fantastic for Four, and you've not seen it yet.
00:10:14
Zack
So they will be back when Fantastic Four comes out.
00:10:15
Mason
So it's like... You will be back. Yeah. So when you see that movie in this one, and it's good.
00:10:19
Zack
They will. Okay.
00:10:21
Mason
ah Have you seen spoilers? Because you said you were going to try to avoid them. All of a sudden, I'm...
00:10:25
Zack
Mason, have you asked, you may want to send a personal message to Kevin Feige asking him permission back into the Marvel fandom once the whole world is back and Mason's
00:10:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:10:36
Mason
I don't understand how I don't understand the hatred here. I literally just said i literally just said, listen, why don't you wait until you see it before you take a W on this take?
00:10:39
Zack
hater
00:10:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
you've You've been saying that Marvel's done. You're done with them. They're dead.
00:10:46
Mason
That's all I was saying.
00:10:52
Zack
Mason doesn't want him to be back.
00:10:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So, yeah, you're you're rooting for their downfall.
00:10:56
Mason
OK, did.
00:10:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You can't wait for the new DC to come out.
00:10:58
Mason
Did you see Captain America, the last one?
00:10:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah
00:11:00
Mason
Did either of you? No, you did not.
00:11:01
Zack
Nope.
00:11:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Nope.
00:11:02
Mason
Exactly.
00:11:02
Zack
ah what did i Mason, I said, listening back to the episode, I said, Brave New World, not going to be good. You what's going to be good?
00:11:08
Mason
but
00:11:08
Zack
i think I feel the tides changing. I said, Thunderbolts has potential to be that kind of movie that shifts things around.
00:11:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:11:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
To save it.
00:11:15
Zack
Fantastic Four coming. in Doomsday is getting filmed right now. lot of hype generating.
00:11:20
Mason
And I agree with you. I'm excited as well. I've just not seen it yet.
00:11:23
Zack
Hmm.
00:11:24
Mason
So until I see it, I'm not going to say anything.
00:11:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
well
00:11:26
Mason
Mr. Call Your Shot over there.
00:11:26
Zack
Hmm. Hmm.
00:11:29
Mason
Tinsley, I don't know how you can get behind Tinsley.
00:11:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So you didn't go into Infinity War thinking it was already the greatest movie ever because you loved Endgame so much?
00:11:34
Zack
It's back.
00:11:37
Zack
i mean search
00:11:37
Mason
Yeah, but we've had, we've had a, that's not the same thing.
00:11:40
Mason
We've had it down a down couple years. That was the hype building up. That was a great movie followed by, now we have this down trajectory and it's going to come back up possibly.
00:11:51
Mason
I don't think it takes much for it.
00:11:51
Zack
it's back up already
00:11:53
Mason
I don't think it takes that much to beat any of these movies that we've not seen. Did you see Eternals? Okay.
00:12:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's not connected.
00:12:03
Mason
That's still a Marvel movie.
00:12:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Have they? Well, they haven't brought it back up, so it doesn't count. It doesn't matter.
00:12:08
Zack
I understand your hesitation, Mason. I know we've had some false starts, some things that haven't gone great.
00:12:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But Zach so far is right about Thunderbolts.
00:12:15
Zack
Personally, i like, I think i enjoy watching Marvel movies.
00:12:20
Mason
I didn't know that your opinion was just based on everybody else's opinion. All I said was, i want once you once you come out of the movie theater and said this was great, then I'll be like, okay, you you called your you you got it right.
00:12:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He said...
00:12:34
Mason
You nailed it. But once if you what happens if you go into that theater and you're like, ah, or come out of it and you're like, ah, that was actually not that good. Everybody was hyping it up.
00:12:42
Zack
What happened?
00:12:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
well
00:12:45
Mason
you're just got you And you have roasted Rotten Tomatoes scores before.
00:12:48
Mason
You've said, like, since when have we ever based...
00:12:49
Zack
It's not about the scores, Mason. It's about the discourse. I'm plugged into the conversation.
00:12:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The discourse.
00:12:56
Zack
um i'm I'm in the pulse of the of the country.
00:12:58
Mason
One day I'll have somebody that will back me up over here.
00:13:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
People like Doctor Strange and you hated it and you declared Marvel was dead because of that Doctor Strange movie.
00:13:01
Mason
What?
00:13:07
Zack
See, I know why, Mason. Mason, I understand why your hesitation is because your opinions on movies are very specific.
00:13:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Very specific.
00:13:15
Zack
And you're not afraid to say movie was bad, even if everyone else was like, this is a good movie.
00:13:15
Mason
What do you mean?
00:13:21
Zack
And I respect that about you. you're you're willing to step out and be like, Oppenheimer was too slow and was boring.
00:13:23
Mason
Thank you, I guess.
00:13:29
Zack
And then it wins the Oscar and everyone's like, wow, what a great movie. You know, I respect that you're willing to step out and take those stakes.
00:13:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mason thought Deadpool was kind of lame. While it was the movie of the summer.
00:13:39
Zack
but But I'm not, I'm not sure you're plugged into the rest the world's thoughts about movie.
00:13:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:46
Zack
I think if you watched 10 of the top 10 best movies of all time, you probably would hate almost all of them. In fact,
00:13:54
Mason
we've kind of talked about this before, like some of the highly rated and whether I've know the movie or not or seen it.
00:13:55
Zack
We have. I think, yeah, we yeah
00:13:59
Mason
So
00:14:00
Zack
we've um we've established you have particular taste.
00:14:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That'd be a really good series.
00:14:03
Zack
Yeah. um Fast and Furious-esque at times, you know?
00:14:10
Mason
top series of all time. Well, besides Marvel.
00:14:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You're not allowed to say that about Marvel.
00:14:13
Zack
So I understand.
00:14:14
Zack
Yeah, not modeling.
00:14:15
Mason
Oh,
00:14:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
you're You've been saying they're dead.
00:14:16
Zack
Yeah. not modeling I'm just joking, Mason, but I am excited because I think Marvel, I've heard some positive buzz for literally the first time in a long time about Marvel property.
00:14:31
Zack
So,
00:14:32
Mason
It don't take much to improve on what has been going around. That's all I'm going say. i do like the... I'm excited about this cast. When we watched Black Widow, that was like some of the more exciting... like and The characters are funny. So it's like I am excited about this group. um Yeah, that's all I'm going say.
00:14:52
Mason
I've just not seen it yet, so I can't give a full breakdown.
00:14:55
Zack
Okay, so when Mason sees it, he's going to come give his full review on the pod.
00:15:00
Mason
Should I watch that? We should do one.
00:15:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I've seen some spoilers because the internet sucks. And I now need to go see this movie now.
00:15:01
Zack
The world's waiting.
00:15:04
Zack
I've not seen anything.
00:15:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like I want to go watch it tonight.
00:15:10
Zack
I'm surprised.
00:15:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um I might pirate it.
00:15:13
Zack
Wow.
00:15:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Shout out, not shout out, but there's a guy work with at UPS. He has, he knows this website and he watches every movie.
00:15:22
Zack
Is it all you record on someone's phone?
00:15:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like, No, it's like, i don't know how. i've I've used it before, but um it's it's not like someone's recorded it on their phone. It just looks like a normal movie.
00:15:32
Mason
How many viruses do you have on your computer now?
00:15:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, yeah i use my phone. You can't get a virus on your phone.
00:15:37
Mason
ah There you go.
00:15:38
Zack
or they can act um okay I'm excited. i don't know that I'll go to the movies and watch it. I'll be honest with you. um and just It's very expensive to go to the movies.
00:15:49
Zack
I'm kind of saving up some of my goodwill to go towards Fantastic Four and Mission Impossible, the last one on IMAX, which I really want to go watch. um So I'm not sure that I'm going to burn my couple of movies per year on this one, but I just, I just like to, i like to feel that the momentum is building, you know?
00:16:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, i probably got two. Mm-hmm.
00:16:10
Mason
The thing about the the whole situation is with Disney, if you just wait three months, it comes out on Disney Plus. Usually. Or five months or six months. So this could just be something that you wait on.
00:16:26
Zack
It's true. I probably will do that with this one, honestly. Fantastic Four, I'm planning to go watch because I think it's going to be a fun one.
00:16:29
Mason
good
00:16:34
Zack
I mean, it's a pretty serious problem that everyone knows. That's what happens with Disney+. So a lot of people aren't going to movies because of that.
00:16:41
Mason
you
00:16:43
Zack
But it's one of those things where you're kind of sacrificing some things because I'm going to get spoiled, I'm sure. like and some point, I'm going to figure out. So it's not going to be a surprise like it would be going to the movie theaters and watching it, but kind of, it is what it is for where we're at, you know?
00:17:03
Zack
Okay. Good Marvel talk.
00:17:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Love some Marvel talk.
00:17:07
Zack
Mason,
Star Wars Trivia and Facts
00:17:08
Zack
I'm excited for your take on the movie.
00:17:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Get Mason fired up.
00:17:12
Mason
I think they do this on purpose, the audience. they just They just want to get me fired up. That's all it is. And I fell for the bait.
00:17:18
Zack
um just want to see you I want to see Mason happy about something. I want to see some light in your eyes, Mason. I want to hear you talk about a movie and be like, this was a good movie.
00:17:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I want to hear him talk about any, he's, he's been hater Mason lately.
00:17:30
Zack
He's been down on everything. I know he's been down on Titans.
00:17:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Everything.
00:17:33
Zack
He's been down on TV and on movies.
00:17:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I still haven't heard him excited about Cam Ward, honestly. There's just always this, like, this the face he's making now, like, eh, waiting for the shoe to drop.
00:17:43
Zack
Hunter Moore.
00:17:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um The only thing I heard him excited about was the S'mores Blizzard.
00:17:50
Mason
that is true the priorities listen we don't have to do Titans talk no one wants to hear this but and once I see the players out on the field yeah but this is true but once I see them on the field that's something to get excited for offseason is kind of hard to
00:17:51
Zack
Never planned.
00:17:57
Zack
It's
00:17:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Majority of our listeners live in Tennessee. What are talking about?
00:18:01
Zack
a fact.
00:18:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You've been watching, you gotta watch Cam Ward highlight tapes. Like, get excited.
00:18:12
Mason
minicamp maybe
00:18:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Grow on some Incarnate Ward highlight tapes from Cam Ward.
00:18:17
Mason
but Might have to do that.
00:18:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He was lighting it up.
00:18:22
Mason
I'll do that after I watch Thunderbolts.
00:18:22
Zack
with The rest just gave Miami last season that he didn't deserve.
00:18:30
Zack
Okay. Well, do we want to do a little bit Star Wars talk now? We're deep in the
00:18:35
Mason
Yeah, yeah, let's do that. I have a, I have a, just a fun fact about Star Wars. A little fun fact for everybody.
00:18:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Boom.
00:18:41
Zack
I like that.
00:18:42
Zack
like that.
00:18:43
Mason
Um, just to kick it off. I actually saw a video about this. And so, um, I wanted to share it with everybody, but, and you may have saw this all as well. So everybody knows in, uh, star Wars, the phantom menace, the pod racing scene, um, with young Anakin, um, they used, and I love stuff like this.
00:18:59
Zack
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:19:05
Mason
We've talked about this before in the past. I just love behind the scene, how they create something for a movie. ah The crowd and the, ah like I said, the pod racing scene was created with 450,000 Q-tips.
00:19:21
Mason
Yes, Q-tips that were painted and basically dried out as a visual effect. There was no... um there's no CGI ah for the large crowd.
00:19:32
Mason
So they just painted them and then came across and you can look up the video.
00:19:36
Zack
Pretty cool.
00:19:36
Mason
It's, it's, it's pretty cool, but they made, basically what they did is they made a small little arena ah for the pod racing, like a, a small scale and put all those Q-tips in there and painted them to look like people.
00:19:50
Mason
So just a little fun, a little fun tip. Get it. Q-tip. That was a bad joke. Yeah. But where's the booze at? Just start booing me.
00:20:02
Mason
But ah anyways, that was a fun little ah thing that i that I saw about Star Wars. So.
'Andor' Series Discussion
00:20:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Star Wars fun facts i don't have any Star Wars fun facts
00:20:16
Mason
Well, I was looking up, I was trying to look up some more and it was like, it was like the original script was 250 pages. don't know. It was just like boring fun facts.
00:20:27
Mason
This was one of the more exciting ones that I found. So that's my, yep, that's it.
00:20:32
Zack
Love it.
00:20:33
Mason
That's all I had.
00:20:37
Zack
Well, we do have some exciting things coming out of Star Wars right now. We have Andor season two. It's dropping. and There are so far two or two of the three episode arcs have been released.
00:20:51
Zack
So episodes one through six are out now. It's kind of being released in each week. They're releasing three episodes at a time and each one of them kind of serves as separate storylines. They've been very good so far.
00:21:04
Zack
Tins, have you been locked into this?
00:21:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, I've only watched the first episode. I'm behind. ah I need to get on it and Daredevil. Behind on both.
00:21:15
Zack
It's kind of a big ask to watch three episodes in a week, a little bit. I had to find, like, stay up a little bit late and watch one, or kind of, that's the only way you really can get it in, but
00:21:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:28
Zack
It's been really good. I know Mason's not really watched a lot of it either. So we will talk more about it once it's all wrapped because the, i think the, this is the last season. So by the end of it, we'll lead directly up to rogue one.
00:21:41
Zack
So by the end of this season, we'll know exactly kind of how everyone's story arcs lead us to where they are in rogue one. And then they will all, well, no spoilers.
00:21:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Then what happens?
00:21:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and
00:21:55
Zack
um We might get there today. in our draft, which we are going to be talking about now. Do you guys want to get into it? You got anything else?
00:22:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:22:05
Mason
Let's do it.
00:22:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I'm ready. Yeah, Shinder Sanders. You want to about them follow him? Falling to the fifth round? That's crazy.
00:22:07
Zack
Can talk about Shadur?
00:22:14
Zack
Mason, what are your takes? Why do you think Shadur fell?
00:22:16
Mason
but we didn't we didn't ah talk We didn't talk about the tariffs earlier. ah let's do Let's do that first and then we'll start.
00:22:22
Zack
Do you think that Shadur falling has anything to do with tariffs, potentially?
00:22:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Ooh.
00:22:27
Zack
What's the link
00:22:28
Mason
Conspiracy theory.
00:22:32
Mason
I don't know what happened. I just honestly, if I had to guess, I would think that some teams were afraid of like his his dad, obviously Dion saying, you know, kind of calling the shots on what teams to go to.
00:22:45
Mason
I have no, I honestly think there's very few teams that needed a quarterback or was interested. And it came down like two or three teams and teams were passing and left and right. And he fell.
00:22:56
Mason
I was shocked. Number, I believe he's then he was a number one rookie jersey selling at the moment.
00:22:58
Zack
Mason was shocked.
00:23:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wrong. Wrong. No, yeah, he was first.
00:23:04
Mason
So.
00:23:06
Zack
Travis.
00:23:06
Mason
Is it? tra
00:23:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Travis was second.
00:23:10
Mason
Did he just say wrong and then he corrected?
00:23:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, then i you're right. Shador was first, and then Travis Hunter was second.
00:23:18
Zack
He was ready for some cam board. he He was ready to talk about cam board as being not first.
00:23:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, no, yeah ah yeah, I was ready for that.
00:23:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
First overall pick. third? ah see was he third
00:23:28
Mason
I was like, did I see it
00:23:34
Mason
I'll have to look. All I know is I started second guessing myself. I was like, did I see a false stat about, but it was something.
00:23:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, yeah, it was, yeah. Shadur was first, and then than my guy, Travis Hunter.
00:23:44
Zack
I believe in Cam.
00:23:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
How do you feel about Travis Hunter having to deal with him? Are you happy about that, Mason? You didn't want him on your team or anything, did you?
00:23:52
Mason
I wanted him on my team. Let's see. um I'm trying to see if they're ranked. No, this just says Shredor Sanders number one. I don't see the top.
00:24:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i i I remember. Shadur was first, and then Travis, and then Cam.
00:24:09
Mason
Okay.
00:24:10
Zack
That's probably fair.
00:24:10
Mason
And then, and then Gentile.
00:24:13
Zack
Mmm.
00:24:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
00:24:19
Zack
Okay, well, we drafting today. And here is what we are going to cover. We're going to draft six things from the Star Wars universe.
00:24:32
Zack
We're going to draft a movie.
00:24:36
Zack
There are... How many movies are there total?
00:24:40
Zack
Ten? Eleven with Han Solo.
00:24:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, I mean...
00:24:47
Mason
Because we have the three ah three trilogies and then you have Solo and Rogue One.
00:24:48
Zack
<unk> There's three show of Jesus. I think that's right.
00:24:54
Mason
Am I missing one?
00:24:54
Zack
That's
00:24:56
Mason
I don't think so.
00:24:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
think so.
00:24:57
Zack
lot of movies.
00:24:59
Zack
We have TV shows. um
00:25:02
Mason
A lot of those.
00:25:03
Zack
there's a lot There are more than you would think. There's a lot of Disney+, plus but there's some pre-Disney Plus TV shows as well.
00:25:11
Zack
We have Clone Wars. We have Rebels. Mason, Boba Fett.
00:25:18
Mason
Rebels. Yep.
00:25:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mason.
00:25:22
Zack
Big Boba Fett guy.
00:25:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Big Bubba Fett.
00:25:23
Mason
Big Puffet guy.
00:25:26
Zack
um Okay. we have We're going to draft a Jedi.
00:25:32
Zack
we and Anyone, it can be any from any time period, any Jedi. We're going to draft a Sith. Could be any of them. And there are a lot, canonically.
00:25:46
Zack
we're going to draft, um, we're going to call this, um, another, don't know. don't know what the category name is. It's a character who is non Sith, non Jedi.
00:25:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hehehehe.
00:26:00
Zack
So they're part of neither organization. There are a lot of those out there. And, um, could be anybody. could be, as far as I'm concerned, it could be droid.
00:26:11
Zack
could be alien. It could be character. I think that could be anyone. And then we're going to draft a wild card, which, as far as I'm concerned, can be pretty much anything else we want.
00:26:22
Zack
It could be a video game. It could be action figure. It could be lightsaber. It could be whatever it wants it to be.
00:26:33
Mason
He's tipping pigs.
00:26:34
Zack
I don't know. very Okay. I can't wait to draft an action figure. All right.
00:26:45
Zack
Everybody
00:26:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah
00:26:48
Zack
good? We good on the on the rolls here?
00:26:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think so. i think we're ready to rock.
00:26:52
Zack
It's going go a lot of different ways. I don't know. um People could draft with their hearts.
00:26:55
Mason
Yeah.
00:26:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, i don't have a i don't have a list.
00:26:57
Zack
Probably what's going to happen.
Star Wars Draft Begins
00:26:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm going off the dome exclusively, which is not a good thing.
00:27:02
Mason
What could possibly go wrong?
00:27:02
Zack
Traditionally, that's our best drafts, to be honest with you. Um, and it starts getting prepared and then everyone is just, man, it's just chalk, you know, you want something you wanted to get a little crazy.
00:27:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, no more buttoned up.
00:27:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Chalk, no arguing.
00:27:17
Zack
All right. First overall, it's going to be spinning wheel going Mason.
00:27:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
think.
00:27:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, let's see. back. right.
00:27:25
Zack
You love to see it. I can't wait for this. Um, second.
00:27:33
Zack
Oh, tens. Okay. Coming in third. Oh boy. On the turn. All right. Mason, but number one overall. I'm psyched for this.
00:27:44
Mason
There's pressure.
00:27:45
Zack
I can't believe. I'm excited. Let's go, Mason. What do you got?
00:27:50
Mason
Okay, so I'm trying to figure out the categories and what is top-heavy, what has more options. um Obviously, we talked about how many movies there were, and there was 11.
00:28:03
Mason
um But I feel, unfortunately, i feel like there's a top movie, and it's personally my favorite, that I have to go with, and that will be a Revenge of the Sith.
00:28:14
Mason
Star Wars movie 101. Right? I can't mess that up. but
00:28:19
Zack
It's a good one.
00:28:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's good. Yeah.
00:28:22
Zack
It's a good movie.
00:28:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's good. that's That's the one I would have picked for movie.
00:28:25
Mason
Okay. I wanted to go ahead and get that one out. There's obviously more options, but um wanted to lock up that one. So there we go.
00:28:32
Zack
Okay. i will I'm glad you picked that, but we'll we'll talk about it.
00:28:42
Mason
What's that mean? What did I do wrong?
00:28:43
Zack
No, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine.
00:28:45
Mason
Okay. Tens, you know what he's talking about?
00:28:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Maybe.
00:28:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right.
00:28:50
Mason
Okay.
00:28:50
Zack
Tens.
00:28:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So I'm going to go with Sith because I don't know how this one just fell to me. um Go Darth Vader.
00:28:59
Zack
Oh, good one.
00:29:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The most iconic Star Wars character that there ever was.
00:29:04
Zack
That's a good one.
00:29:07
Zack
um
00:29:10
Zack
guy if Yeah, you feel.
00:29:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
oh The ultimate bad guy.
00:29:13
Zack
Luke, obviously, is like the the main hero of the original trilogy, but you feel like the aura around Darth Vader, is he the most aura of any character?
00:29:13
Mason
Mm-hmm.
00:29:21
Zack
you're Like, maybe you ever.
00:29:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:29:23
Zack
Like, that guy is a menace. um He's got that thing going on, you know?
00:29:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I remember. I remember seeing like the the poster for episode one and it's like the Anakin and then it's the shadow of Darth Vader. And it's just like, I don't know. It's just the storyline is so cool because, you know, what's going to end up happening is he becomes Darth Vader and seeing it unfold is crazy. Yeah.
00:29:47
Mason
I feel like that is... You don't necessarily want... or I guess villains get a bad rap. like Kids don't dress up as villains for Halloween until Darth Vader.
00:29:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Until Darth Vader.
00:30:00
Mason
Yeah, I feel like that was the turn where it's like...
00:30:03
Zack
Yeah, he kills a lot of people.
00:30:07
Mason
Thank you, Zach.
00:30:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:30:07
Mason
Yep.
00:30:08
Zack
Yep, he also made the Death Star. Just not to destroy planets.
00:30:16
Mason
Bad guy.
00:30:16
Zack
Do you think we're going have white people dressed up as Galactus for Halloween?
00:30:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:30:22
Zack
Could be.
00:30:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Dr. Doom might have a comeback with Robert Downey Jr.
00:30:25
Zack
Yeah, for sure. Thanos had him out, I feel like, the, like, Infinity Gauntlet and stuff.
00:30:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The gauntlet, yeah, the gauntlet's pretty big. People like that. Well, I mean, there's also the argument, is Thanos a bad guy? Is he really a villain? Or is he just trying to prevent starvation and stuff?
00:30:38
Mason
It's a good point, actually.
00:30:39
Zack
He's just trying to help the world.
00:30:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, he was trying to prevent Galactus from waking up.
00:30:47
Zack
think Thanos was right.
00:30:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You learn. Because that's what causes Galactus to wake up.
00:30:50
Mason
Dennis, let's try it.
00:30:53
Zack
Really?
00:30:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Global warming. That's one thing in theory I read.
00:30:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I believed. I liked
00:30:59
Zack
getting little hot over there on Earth.
00:31:01
Zack
Better eat him. Okay.
00:31:06
Zack
Well, this was where I was kind of talking about, um, think of all the categories. I do think Darth Vader is a don't, I think Revengeance is good movie. Um, I think TV show is by far the slimmest of the categories.
00:31:20
Mason
Mm-hmm.
00:31:20
Zack
Uh, in fact, the ones I've probably watched all of there's, Maybe only two that I actually like very much.
00:31:29
Zack
And so this may be a concern for whoever doesn't get one of those two, unless you're going to go Clone Wars. So I'm going to go TV show.
00:31:45
Zack
think I'm going to go with my heart. This is not the crowd favorite one, probably, but I think I'm going to go Andor.
00:31:52
Zack
I really do like this show. It's a good one. I know it's not as popular as another show that's probably going to go at some point, but it is some of the best um content out there.
00:32:03
Zack
I think it's some of the most put-together stuff. It feels...
00:32:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Best storytelling, in my opinion.
00:32:07
Zack
it's It's a very interesting world. yeah it is
00:32:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:32:11
Zack
It's not contrived. and it's it doesn't feel cheesy, and it doesn't feel like it's just someone threw something together and was like, yeah, they'll... like this, it was like, it's like a real story and real people.
00:32:24
Zack
And so I think it's a great show. I like it. If you haven't watched it, I would recommend it to anyone. Cause I think it's, it's really good storytelling. So I am going there with
00:32:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think that's the best show. My opinion.
00:32:37
Zack
agree. Yeah, I agree.
00:32:40
Zack
Okay. With that.
00:32:47
Zack
I'm going to go a little bit out there. I'm going to go Jedi. I'm going to go Yoda.
00:32:55
Mason
Hmm.
00:32:58
Zack
Tense to get some relief there. He's the dopest Jedi, I think. He's chill, but he's super powerful. He has a long history. He's fought for a long time.
00:33:12
Zack
He trains Luke. He's kind of got the... um the wisdom. He's, uh, where Luke is like a precocious young person. Uh, Yoda's kind of got that chill vibe, lives in a swamp to begin with.
00:33:28
Zack
He's seen some things though, you know, he's, he's been around the block, uh, very cool character. So I'm going Yoda as Jedi, obviously. Yeah, I like him. He's cool.
00:33:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm going to go Jedi here and counterpoint, Zach. I think I'm picking, when you think of the best saber fight scenes,
00:33:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Who's in both of them? It's Obi-Wan Kenobi. I think Obi-Wan Kenobi the, he's like the, he's like the co-star of the episodes one, two, and three.
00:33:57
Mason
Hmm.
00:34:00
Zack
Yeah.
00:34:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like he is I feel like he's just as important as Anakin's character.
00:34:10
Zack
Yeah, for sure.
00:34:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um, he, he, uh, his spinoff TV show, not to tip picks, but was very good. Um,
00:34:19
Zack
Really?
00:34:22
Mason
He said, really?
00:34:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I liked it. I thought it was fine.
00:34:25
Zack
It was fine. It was fine. Yeah. It was fine.
00:34:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It has one of, again, one of the best saber fight scenes ever at the end with Vader.
00:34:33
Mason
At the end, right? Yeah. um
00:34:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. So Obi-Wan is always my favorite. um Jedi, this isn't going to get picked. also has his own video game. It's just Obi-Wan.
00:34:45
Zack
Mm.
00:34:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It was on Xbox. It was awesome. So yeah, Obi-Wan Kenobi. I will take him as my Jedi any day of the week.
00:34:55
Zack
It's a good pick. Mm-hmm.
00:35:00
Mason
Okay, so those are good picks. Let's see. he You both went Jedi. We have Darth Vader off the board, so I feel like I should go... should just leave Jedi alone, since y'all already got one, and maybe go a Sith here.
00:35:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Nah.
00:35:21
Mason
Um...
00:35:23
Mason
Nah. I'm going Sith. I don't know why. This was my favorite character to play in the video games. This is my favorite like villain. like ah darth Darth Vader is probably obviously one-on-one.
00:35:35
Mason
But I'm going to go Sith. I'm going Darth Maul.
00:35:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. he's He's like the cool, cool bad guy.
00:35:43
Mason
He's the coolest one.
00:35:46
Mason
um do Am I crazy? Were they going to do a series or do some type of... Was that something that was talked about?
00:35:53
Zack
He was a pretty big part in Clone Wars, I think.
00:35:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:35:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Very big part.
00:35:58
Mason
Yeah.
00:35:59
Zack
He kind of comes back from the life.
00:36:00
Mason
Because he lives.
00:36:01
Zack
He was cut in half.
00:36:03
Mason
Yeah.
00:36:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, spoiler alert for everyone out there. ah He did not die. He actually has many more runnings. He has many more run-ins with Anakin and Ahsoka in the show and Obi-Wan.
00:36:13
Zack
Yeah.
00:36:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So, yeah.
00:36:17
Mason
Was that your pick, Tins, with Darth Maul?
00:36:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i Yeah, I was going to pick Darth Maul if you didn't text later.
00:36:22
Mason
Oh, you went Vader. Yeah.
00:36:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:36:24
Mason
Yeah. um and then i don't know yeah because did they do double uh was he the one that kind of had the because i know am i gonna say his butcher's name wrong grievous was like the one with multiples like that general grievous yes thank you uh where he has like
00:36:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And he's the first time you see like the first unique saber.
00:36:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
General Grievous. he's He's in the third movie.
00:36:49
Mason
Where he has the multiple arms with the multiple side sabers, but I don't think there's any that have a double-sided saber except for him.
00:36:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:36:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No. Garth Maul is the first one that you see that has anything other than just like your traditional one.
00:37:01
Mason
Yeah.
00:37:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It was very cool though. Because he's when he's fighting Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, the first one, and he like has the one out and then he turns it and it goes to and it's just like, what the heck?
00:37:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What has this guy got?
00:37:18
Mason
Okay, I'm going to go ahead and lock shows since we've gotten one off the board. um so therere Zach was talking about there being two good ones. I thought there was three good ones left, in my opinion.
00:37:33
Mason
ah so I'm going to go with Mandalorian.
00:37:33
Zack
Wow.
00:37:37
Mason
We got Pedro Pascal. No?
00:37:39
Zack
That's one I was thinking of.
00:37:39
Mason
We got Grogu.
00:37:41
Zack
People like Mandalorian.
00:37:41
Mason
That was the one that...
00:37:42
Zack
It's very popular.
00:37:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm pretty burnt out on Mandalorian.
00:37:44
Zack
Well, yeah but the first two seasons were electric, though.
00:37:45
Mason
Three seasons. Yeah.
00:37:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The first season at some point, it's just like,
00:37:48
Mason
We got the... Was good.
00:37:52
Zack
it It ran its course without a doubt, but it was very it was that first season was huge
00:37:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah, no, it was for sure. it's I mean, it's a good show. It's just, it's the same thing. Every episode, baby Yoda in danger.
00:38:06
Mason
Well, because...
00:38:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
we have to save them. We also save a planet at the same time.
00:38:11
Mason
We thought we weren't going to have Baby Yoda anymore because obviously he links up with...
00:38:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Congrats.
00:38:18
Mason
Luke Skywalker and then obviously he just comes back like just like that in the next season. So anyways. um
00:38:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, he's not cut out to be a Jedi.
00:38:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Grogu.
00:38:28
Mason
No, he could be a non.
00:38:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's not cut out.
00:38:30
Mason
Yeah, he's not technically a Jedi.
00:38:31
Mason
He could be your non character.
00:38:33
Zack
Be Sith. That
00:38:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
True. He could be a Sith. We don't know. His story's not done being told. We know that he has Jedi training.
00:38:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He turns his back on the Jedi.
00:38:41
Zack
would be electric.
00:38:45
Zack
What if he was a Sith? That would be so funny. Cute little baby Yoda. Force choking people.
00:38:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He does force choke somebody.
00:38:55
Zack
It's true. But for real.
00:38:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He did.
00:38:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He choked him.
00:38:59
Zack
Healing people.
00:39:03
Mason
So was that your one out that you said there was two good ones? That was your third one.
00:39:07
Zack
I was thinking Andor and Mandalorian were the were the two that I i feel have pretty positive public opinion.
00:39:10
Mason
OK.
00:39:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:39:14
Mason
I thought Obi Wan was up there as well.
00:39:15
Zack
Obi-Wan, thought was fine.
00:39:15
Mason
OK.
00:39:16
Zack
I don't know. Maybe it was too long ago.
00:39:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mason, you did not think Obi-Wan was fine.
00:39:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You hated it
00:39:20
Zack
i didn't remember people thinking Obi-Wan good.
00:39:24
Mason
No, i we don't have to get into.
00:39:24
Zack
thought that was very bad, but like I felt like Obi-Wan was kind of like, man.
00:39:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
People, it was fine.
00:39:29
Mason
All
00:39:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
the The saber scene with Vader saved it, I think, in people's opinion.
00:39:36
Zack
Yeah, when Hayden Christensen came in, that was pretty big.
00:39:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I thought it was good.
00:39:38
Zack
I do remember that.
00:39:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:39:40
Zack
People were liking that. Okay.
00:39:44
Zack
Tim?
00:39:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right.
00:39:45
Mason
right. Yep. To you.
00:39:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm. All right, I'm going to go extra character here.
00:39:51
Zack
Mm-hmm.
00:39:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And i'm going to go R2-D2.
00:39:54
Zack
It's good one.
00:39:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Everyone's favorite ah asteroid. Droid. he's He's in all the movies.
00:40:02
Zack
Yeah. Fact. Fact.
00:40:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
everyone's Everyone's favorite robot sidekick.
00:40:04
Mason
Oh, yeah.
00:40:09
Zack
that's true. He's, i think that is, um, an awesome character for having no lines and having no dialogue.
00:40:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:40:18
Zack
He is certainly his own character and he has his own personality, which is pretty cool. Um, yeah, R2G is awesome.
00:40:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, he zaps some guys in the second movie. Saves Obi-Wan.
00:40:31
Zack
Get zapped.
00:40:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So R2-D2. So I was surprised he lasted this long. I feel like he's like, i don't know.
00:40:39
Zack
Yeah, I thought about it. My hard one with RGD2, to be honest, is he kind of feels like, not that, it's that he he feels like a pair with C-3PO.
00:40:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's no lines.
00:40:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, see what you're saying.
00:40:51
Zack
And so it it it's like, I'm trying to give you another example.
00:40:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What's one without the other?
00:40:57
Zack
Yeah, it's it's hard to pick one and just and then not pick the other.
00:40:59
Mason
Thank you.
00:41:01
Zack
that's my That's my only thing.
00:41:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
can definitely not pick C-3PO. I think he's lame.
00:41:10
Zack
Okay, to me, I'm going to go movie here. I'm going to go with um probably
00:41:23
Zack
what most people would say is like, it's probably the the best. When it first came out, it was highly, highly regarded. um i think it really made this franchise into what it is.
00:41:34
Zack
I'm going The Empire Strikes Back.
00:41:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mmm.
00:41:38
Zack
This one is where Luke realizes who his father is and his relationship to Darth Vader. ah This kind of launches um that storyline ahead.
00:41:50
Zack
It's high action, high. um There's some very good fight scenes in there. um Yeah, where New Hope was a lot of you know training with Yoda and a lot of kind of setting up the the story.
00:42:10
Zack
Empire Strikes Back is really where it kind of kicks into high gear and is a great movie. It's awesome. So that is my movie. There are some other good options out there for sure.
00:42:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm a famous hater of the original trilogy.
00:42:29
Zack
Original?
00:42:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:42:30
Mason
Just like the...
00:42:31
Mason
the it It is crazy how far we don't Some people don't realize... like The younger generation doesn't realize how far ahead of its time the technology was.
00:42:43
Mason
And for some of the... like Anybody that you talk about that like saw it live or was around, it was like, no, this was like futuristic. like No one ever seen anything like this before.
00:42:55
Mason
so
00:42:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, his first like big sci-fi movie. I just i don't like Luke Skywalker. i think he's annoying. so That's why I don't like those movies.
00:43:05
Mason
There you go.
00:43:06
Zack
Yeah, he's kind of that character who you almost...
00:43:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What can I say?
00:43:07
Mason
like i mean
00:43:10
Zack
Like, it is what it is. like it's It's kind of like you don't... Some people are not going to agree with this, but you you don't necessarily watch Lord of the Rings for Frodo. You know?
00:43:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:43:21
Zack
You don't... Harry Potter is probably not the most interesting part of Harry Potter. like The main character has to hold a lot onto on their back, but at the end of the day, the most entertaining parts are...
00:43:35
Zack
elsewhere. And for that reason, under my character, I am going to draft Han Solo.
00:43:41
Zack
Under additional character, Tins is a hater of Han Solo.
00:43:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Another reason I don't like the trilogies.
00:43:45
Zack
um
00:43:47
Zack
But ah this guy...
00:43:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Biggest useless character in all of Star Wars.
00:43:53
Zack
whatever.
00:43:55
Mason
Useless.
00:43:55
Zack
What a take that is. he...
00:43:56
Zack
Oh, boy. um
00:43:56
Mason
but
00:43:58
Mason
Wow.
00:43:59
Zack
so he
00:43:59
Mason
CP3O is a ah ah more important.
00:44:01
Zack
oh boy
00:44:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I didn't take CP3O. And C3PO is pretty important.
00:44:05
Zack
yeah
00:44:08
Zack
Han Solo is not a useless character. He, along with Chewbacca and their team, they make up the part of this love triangle with Leia and Luke and Han Solo.
00:44:11
Mason
I like this take, actually. This is funny.
00:44:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
useless
00:44:21
Mason
Hmm.
00:44:22
Zack
That was an intriguing part until they found out were brother sister. Han is the is like the coolest.
00:44:33
Zack
this is in that same conversation of the Luke Darth Vader storyline is very important, but Han Solo is like comic relief.
00:44:38
Mason
Thank you.
00:44:39
Zack
and And what he brings is what really makes the original trilogy work as well as it does without him. And without kind of him and Chewie's million Falcon, the whole cool thing they've got going on.
00:44:51
Zack
They were, he, he was, his onscreen presence was really made the movie pop. And truly, I don't think that the series does what it does without Han Solo there.
00:45:04
Zack
It's my take.
00:45:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Is that because Harrison Ford was such a big star?
00:45:07
Zack
and Yes. he Well, he was very cool.
00:45:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and that Okay.
00:45:10
Zack
He was hot.
00:45:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, that's what saying. Put someone else put someone else in like a different actor as that character.
00:45:15
Zack
What? Don't watch the movie.
00:45:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Does it matter?
00:45:18
Zack
Put someone else in it?
00:45:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Have him switch. Have him switch. Have Harrison Ford and what's-his-face switch roles.
00:45:21
Zack
oh
00:45:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Luke Skywalker is then the coolest character in Star Wars. I agree. Harrison Ford is very cool guy.
00:45:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I just think Han Solo, like, he...
00:45:36
Zack
You're saying the character itself, that the whole man the whole thing is that he's like a, he just, he's like a yeah drifter.
00:45:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:45:45
Zack
He just rolls around and steals stuff. And i don't, I don't understand what your point is.
00:45:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:45:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and just I just...
00:45:51
Zack
He's like, his whole character is cool.
00:45:53
Zack
It's like this thing. He wears leather jackets and he like hangs at a bar and people and cause he's awesome.
00:45:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, he wears his leather vest and he shoots a guy first and then Leia says, I love you. right before he dies, he says, I know. Like, oh, we get it. You're you're mr cool you're too cool.
00:46:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We get it.
00:46:06
Zack
He didn't die.
00:46:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We got it.
00:46:08
Zack
He's frozen in carbonite.
00:46:11
Zack
He is a cool guy. Tins.
00:46:14
Mason
Debatable.
00:46:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, he was so cool, why does his own son kill him? Spoiler alert.
00:46:18
Mason
Oh.
00:46:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Sorry.
00:46:21
Mason
That movie came out, what? for It's been a while.
00:46:25
Zack
Listen.
00:46:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I know.
00:46:25
Zack
and
00:46:25
Mason
If we're doing spoiler alerts for something in 2017.
00:46:26
Zack
eaten
00:46:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I like saying spoiler alert.
00:46:29
Zack
he Your son killing you is makes you less cool.
00:46:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah?
00:46:35
Zack
Your son's a Sith Lord, kind of thick.
00:46:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, you're pretty...
00:46:39
Zack
What
00:46:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
he Yeah, he was such a bad dad, he turned his son into a Sith Lord. It's tough.
00:46:43
Zack
are you going to The darkness was calling him.
00:46:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:46:47
Zack
No one ever said he was a good dad. Okay, we we had thought we were saying. He's probably a bad dad, in fact.
00:46:55
Zack
Good friend, though. Sometimes. To Chewie.
00:46:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
To Chewie. Yeah.
00:47:01
Zack
Shout Chewbacca.
00:47:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay.
00:47:04
Zack
Okay.
00:47:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't have anything bad to say about Chewbacca.
00:47:06
Zack
Me neither. You'd probably rip your head off.
00:47:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm not. Yeah. That and it's just like his character was so useless in the video game too. Of all the battle friends.
00:47:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like oh I got Han Solo with his pistol.
00:47:15
Mason
Yeah.
00:47:16
Zack
Yeah, he's not he's not powered up.
00:47:18
Mason
yeah
00:47:19
Zack
That's not his thing.
00:47:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's not very powerful.
00:47:20
Zack
He uses his charisma.
00:47:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's not getting you very far against a lightsaber my guy.
00:47:27
Zack
It is.
00:47:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I didn't.
00:47:31
Zack
One time he was old.
00:47:35
Zack
Sue him.
00:47:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
oh
00:47:38
Zack
Okay. Tens, back to you.
00:47:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Is it back to me? Okay. All right. um I'm going i don't have to go here. You guys already both did your movies. i don't have to pick a movie. I'm going
00:47:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm going to wild card. Just talked about it, actually. So I'm going to go Star Wars Battlefront 2. I think the second one.
00:47:59
Mason
Mmm, yep.
00:48:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The Galactic Conquest mode where you could battle and capture planet planets.
00:48:03
Mason
So good.
00:48:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and And that was the one where you could like get the the Jedis or the Sith or whatever. um And just go around murking people. like You could run around as Darth Vader. Just absolutely kill 50 clones all at once because you're unstoppable.
00:48:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It was fun. It was good times.
00:48:25
Mason
Me my brother played endless amount of hours. It's kind of user friendly. Like I feel like anybody, it's not that hard to play. um They have all the different worlds. Like you could play, you could set it up to where you're whoever character you want to play.
00:48:41
Mason
Like it's, it was, that was probably the peak of like PlayStation 2 video game for me.
00:48:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:48:48
Mason
was like, that was the game.
00:48:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:48:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm not talking about the newer one that came out. Like I hate that they named them the same thing too.
00:48:51
Mason
We wore that out.
00:48:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's so annoying.
00:48:56
Mason
Yeah, I thought i was thinking you were thinking PlayStation 2 Battlefront 2, right?
00:48:56
Zack
Very confusing.
00:48:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
00:49:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, Xbox 360, but yeah.
00:49:01
Mason
Is that right? yeah, but the older one, yeah.
00:49:04
Zack
Yeah, it was like the easiest sell. It was like, we already have a lot of games where people just like shoot each other in war. What if we just put them on other planets and gave them lightsabers or gave like some of the people lightsabers and just let everyone kill each other.
00:49:22
Mason
and We didn't, yeah, we didn't play.
00:49:23
Zack
It seemed like the easiest sell ever. It's like the, you know, it's like, wow
00:49:25
Mason
Yeah.
00:49:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and then you could have the game mode where it was like uh good versus evil so it was like you could pick any of the jedi or good characters and you'd be battling it's like have gentle grievous running around in darth maul and you could fight him as anakin it was it was fun it was a good game
00:49:34
Zack
Awesome.
00:49:38
Zack
awesome
00:49:41
Mason
but had a story They had a story line to it, too. It wasn't just like play head- on like head-to-head and stuff. They had like a story that you could play.
00:49:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, you got you got to be a clone troop through the whole thing of like the ah Clone Wars and then the battle of them turning into bad guys.
00:49:49
Mason
Yeah.
00:49:58
Mason
Mm-hmm.
00:50:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You got to do the whole Order 66 thing. It was it good. It was a really good game.
00:50:08
Mason
Top notch makes me want to get a PlayStation 2 and
00:50:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, you can fire it up. It's on Game Pass on Xbox.
00:50:14
Mason
even better. There
00:50:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I play it every now and then, just randomly, for nostalgic reasons.
00:50:19
Mason
you go. Yeah, that was a good pick. That was my number one.
00:50:22
Zack
yeah Who's the Shaduri of this draft?
00:50:23
Mason
i don't know why I waited this long to try to pull the trigger.
00:50:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wait around, got sniped.
00:50:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
just like the Almost like the Browns, they almost got sniped from Shador.
00:50:28
Mason
Got sniped.
00:50:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That, that right there, Star Wars Battlefront 2.
00:50:40
Zack
We'll have liked it later on.
00:50:41
Mason
That fell.
00:50:44
Zack
Could be.
00:50:45
Mason
OK, so let's see how many we got left.
00:50:49
Zack
You have two picks here.
00:50:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Your last.
00:50:53
Mason
We have three left, right?
00:50:55
Zack
Three picks left still.
00:50:56
Mason
Yeah, OK, I'm going non Sith, non Jedi character here.
00:51:05
Zack
Mm-hmm.
00:51:05
Mason
And I'm going to go.
00:51:09
Mason
bobba fit
00:51:12
Zack
Hmm.
00:51:16
Mason
He's non-Jedi, right? Non-Sith? Yeah, he's just a...
00:51:19
Zack
True.
00:51:20
Zack
Bounty Hunter.
00:51:20
Mason
We'd hate that pic?
00:51:21
Mason
Huh?
00:51:22
Zack
I have such a hard time because i feel like the show just completely jacked up like his entire...
00:51:26
Mason
Well, I was not thinking of the show. I was thinking of the movies. I think his character is way cooler movie-wise. Jetpack. He has a flamethrower, yeah. ah
00:51:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
he' But he's not even in the movies that much.
00:51:40
Mason
Mysterious character.
00:51:42
Zack
He's not. That's what made him cool, though. That's what made his character like...
00:51:45
Mason
Kind of just popped in.
00:51:46
Zack
He was...
00:51:47
Mason
See, I see what Tens did. He picked a character that was in every movie and that was like a good... And I was having trouble trying to find like non-Sith, non-Jedi ah that... I mean, I guess I could gone Chewbacca. That's in quite a bit of the movies.
00:52:05
Mason
So...
00:52:09
Mason
Nobody likes that pick. Okay, let's move on.
00:52:11
Zack
um think it's a bad pick.
00:52:11
Mason
I'm going to go...
00:52:12
Zack
isn I think it's not a bad pick. I think his reputation but became much worse after the TV show, unfortunately.
00:52:15
Mason
There's so many options. i think if I would. Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:52:20
Zack
Because he was such like a elusive because he he disappeared and he went went to the Charlotte pit and it was like, what happened to him? And then it was like this whole thing around him and he was When they brought him back, it kind of peeled back all of the like questions and was like, oh, he's kind of just this old guy who has to get healed up or whatever to go fight in the wild, wild west of Star Wars.
00:52:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
With the Power Rangers of Star Wars. Um,
00:52:46
Zack
That was dumb. Yeah.
00:52:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And his dad, I mean, like, see, I feel like you could have picked his dad. His dad was a way cooler character. he's he's the He's the creator. Like, all the clones are him.
00:52:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
they're they're They're made from him. um And then his story arc in episode two is pretty cool.
00:53:08
Zack
Could picked Andor. Cassian Andor.
00:53:08
Mason
I could also want General Grievous.
00:53:10
Mason
We brought them up. No, he's a Jedi. Or he's a Sith. What'd you say? I was talking about General Grievous.
00:53:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What?
00:53:17
Zack
thought you could have picked Cassian Andor.
00:53:18
Mason
I was talking to myself.
00:53:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's not a Sith. He's not a Sith anyway.
00:53:22
Mason
Okay.
00:53:22
Zack
Grievous.
00:53:22
Mason
I should have went that.
00:53:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's just a general in their army.
00:53:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He just has no Force abilities at all.
00:53:25
Mason
I like him as a character.
00:53:26
Mason
Okay, for some reason I thought he was technically... Okay.
00:53:29
Zack
Got
00:53:31
Mason
He does not. You're correct.
00:53:33
Zack
a lot arms, though.
00:53:35
Mason
It's true. Plenty of arms.
00:53:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He couldn't have been a Sith at the same time because Count Dooku and Palpatine are there the same time.
00:53:40
Zack
Vader. Not Vader. Tukku.
00:53:44
Mason
o
00:53:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's going to have two.
00:53:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The rule of two.
00:53:46
Mason
ah
00:53:47
Zack
Poppy.
00:53:49
Mason
See, this is where I get roasted by the diehard fans.
00:53:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
palpi yeah you're good Yeah, I'm definitely going to look for that clip.
00:53:56
Zack
Tins is already...
00:53:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I've got to make sure it gets made.
00:53:56
Mason
get the Get that out of here.
00:53:58
Zack
if if Tins' hatred of the original trilogies are going to get roasted, I think.
00:54:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:54:03
Mason
That's a good point.
00:54:04
Zack
Han Solo hate is kind wild.
00:54:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i i get I get that a lot.
00:54:06
Zack
but
00:54:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
robert Robert comes for me every time we talk Star Wars because I don't like the originals. He says it's just because I don't like the graphics. I'm like, that's not what it is. I just don't. I don't like Luke and I think Han Solo is like Character's too cool for school, so I don't like it.
00:54:25
Mason
um Too cool for school. the You know what's not too cool for school? I'm going to go with my wild card here. I'm going to go with probably, in my opinion, the most popular... I could be wrong, but when you think Legos...
00:54:41
Mason
feel like you ah you you think Star Wars. We have like tons of Legos still. like I'm in my 30s, and I have leg Legos, Star Wars.
00:54:52
Mason
That was when we always bought Legos, went to like the Star Wars section. There's obviously so many different... And you could and it's gotten out of control. like They have the full ships that's just like... You could Death Star, and like it's just crazy...
00:55:08
Mason
um what they can like build now. it's It's so cool. So I'm going to go with Lego Star Wars.
00:55:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I wish I liked Legos.
00:55:18
Zack
Yeah. See?
00:55:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i don't I don't like putting things together.
00:55:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um i get i get really aggravated at instructions. also I also had a Lego, um the the Millennium Falcon. I had one of those as a kid my grandma got for me.
00:55:21
Mason
Yeah.
00:55:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and i I remember it took me forever to build it, and then my little brother smashed it. and so i think part of me is like, i hey, i I find this pointless and time-consuming now, and I won't ever do them.
00:55:32
Zack
six
00:55:44
Mason
it is one yeah it is one of those things where it's like okay it's built now what i guess you could kind of like if you're a kid you like play with it once it's built but like it's so like as an adult you should build it and then it just sits and collects dust but still cool yeah it's true
00:55:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:56:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's it. I mean, that's collecting anything. What do we do with the Pokemon card after you buy it?
00:56:05
Zack
You look at it.
00:56:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Just look at it.
00:56:06
Mason
look at it it's a good point
00:56:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, it's just cool to have stuff.
00:56:11
Mason
Alright, Star Wars Legos. I feel better about that pick.
00:56:15
Zack
That's good.
00:56:15
Mason
does do you have I think someone's got wild card left.
00:56:19
Zack
I do.
00:56:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
See, when you started that sentence, I thought were going to the Lego video games because those are fun.
00:56:21
Mason
Okay.
00:56:24
Zack
You too.
00:56:26
Mason
Oh my gosh, yes.
00:56:26
Zack
Those are very popular.
00:56:27
Mason
I should ah i should have picked that.
00:56:27
Zack
Yeah.
00:56:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Me and Macy play those.
00:56:29
Mason
Yeah, those are fun to to play. And those are definitely... Yeah, that's that's a good one. I should went there. Dang it. Oh well. Because we played that a ton too.
00:56:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Snooze.
00:56:38
Mason
That was probably number two on me and Matthias' video game list with Battlefront and then that one. So, okay.
00:56:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Tough.
00:56:47
Mason
Alright, back to you.
00:56:49
Zack
Tens.
00:56:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Back to me. All right. I'm going to go show and i'm i mean I'm going to go Clone Wars, the TV show. ah Animated series. Lots of fun. like It bridges the gap between episodes one and two and two and three.
00:57:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You get to see a lot of... like You get to see the whole story arc of Anakin and Ahsoka. And then just a lot of cool battle scenes of the Clone War era. So...
00:57:18
Zack
I like that.
00:57:20
Mason
I tried watching it. It's a lot. how many episodes?
00:57:22
Zack
I've not watched all of it, but I've watched some of it.
00:57:23
Mason
I think there's like a ton of seasons, right?
00:57:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah there's
00:57:25
Zack
Yeah, like eight seasons or something.
00:57:25
Mason
And episodes.
00:57:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It just finished just like recently. They brought it back to finish it.
00:57:28
Zack
Yeah, they brought it back.
00:57:31
Mason
Bad, Bad Batch is good.
00:57:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, that's a completely different TV show.
00:57:33
Mason
That's, and that's one of the car.
00:57:34
Zack
Bad Batch is... It is different. It's similar to animation, but it is different, yeah.
00:57:40
Mason
Oh, it was, a no, it's cartoon. I was just bringing that up as like a cartoon series.
00:57:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh,
00:57:45
Mason
That's good.
00:57:45
Zack
ah
00:57:46
Mason
That I've watch actually watched. Cause
00:57:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
okay.
00:57:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I got you.
00:57:48
Mason
yeah
00:57:49
Mason
No, I was not.
00:57:49
Zack
It's actually not some more animation as it, I'm going get roasted for all the honey.
00:57:50
Mason
it was not. Yeah.
00:57:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm not a big animated guy, but
00:57:53
Zack
Yeah. I need to stop talking.
00:57:57
Zack
Um, Clone Wars is not bad. I've watched some of it. I've no, I've not took the time to sit and watch all of it and catch up.
00:58:05
Zack
Cool. Okay. I got two picks left. Um, I'm going Sith. I think I'm going to there's a lot of options. I'm going to stay true to myself and talk about things I actually know about.
00:58:17
Zack
So I'm going to go Kylo Ren. Super strong. Son of Han Solo and Leia. Famously.
00:58:30
Zack
um He,
00:58:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He gets the powerfulness from Leia, just so we know. Just so we're clear.
00:58:35
Zack
but he's dope. um He doesn't have a lot of swag. He he didn't get a lot from Han Solo there. ah But he has a very cool lightsaber with the hilt.
00:58:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No.
00:58:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Very cool, Ice Over. The
00:58:49
Zack
No, what's the word I'm looking for?
00:58:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hilt? Yeah.
00:58:50
Zack
Like dig the guard.
00:58:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think... i think
00:58:52
Zack
So.
00:58:53
Mason
Yeah.
00:58:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Might have the guard. And that like in his blade's like, it's like broken.
00:58:55
Zack
Very cool.
00:58:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
like It's not like a ah solid, like you know what i mean?
00:59:00
Zack
Mm hmm.
00:59:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's like jagged.
00:59:02
Zack
Yeah. Yep.
00:59:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's kind the first time you see that.
00:59:05
Zack
It's very cool. He has some very cool fight scenes throughout the newest trilogy. The one in the palace, the guard room where he's fighting all of the
00:59:19
Zack
You know what I'm talking about?
00:59:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Knights, yeah.
00:59:21
Zack
Yeah, yeah. In the red room. See, this is where I sound like an idiot again.
00:59:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
with Ray.
00:59:26
Zack
But it's very cool with Rey, right?
00:59:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:59:28
Zack
he's um I think he's a cool Sith because he's kind of the first time. a lot of people didn't really like it as much, but I did appreciate how he's kind of a conflicted Sith. We see the Sith be...
00:59:42
Zack
very staunch and Darth Vader is a very, very cool character, but he doesn't have any of the, it doesn't show him like struggling with what he's doing. He's just like, what if I just killed everyone?
00:59:53
Zack
You're my son, but I'm going to murder you.
00:59:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:59:55
Zack
And he, like, he doesn't care. Like it's, um,
00:59:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:59:59
Zack
And neither does Palpatine. Like he has no redeeming qualities. He has nothing about him that makes you like, maybe he's got some good in him, but Kylo Ren is different, right? He's, he's, he's kind of towing that line and he's trying to figure his way out, which I think makes him a more interesting character.
01:00:16
Zack
Uh, he's also very strong. He is a very strong Sith, um,
01:00:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:00:23
Zack
which makes him a very, also played by Adam Driver, who's a very good actor. And so it made for, he was definitely one of the high points of the newer trilogy, the sequel trilogy.
01:00:29
Mason
Thank you.
01:00:36
Zack
There were some problems with it, without a doubt, but I think he was a high point.
01:00:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Agreed. think he is the best part of the newer trilogy, in my opinion.
01:00:48
Zack
Yeah. Yep.
01:00:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I like his character. never thought would...
01:00:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I thought I was to end up with him. thought you guys would have swapped. Someone else would got Darth Vader and someone else would have Maul. I have been completely fine taking Kylo Ren. They're all... like Vader is obviously ahead, but Maul and Kylo Ren are like really cool bad guys.
01:01:11
Zack
They are.
01:01:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm glad none of us picked Palpatine because he's lame.
01:01:14
Zack
He's very lame. Yeah, he's strong and he's just like, yeah, whatever. um
01:01:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's whatever. Bag of wrinkles.
01:01:20
Mason
He's kind of a cheat code in the video games because you can just like hold RT and like do the electric like yeah.
01:01:24
Zack
Unlimited power.
01:01:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The lightning. Yeah. As long as you kill someone, it replenishes it and you just run around and just.
01:01:29
Mason
Exactly. Yeah, cheat code.
01:01:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that was lame.
01:01:32
Mason
But he's very slow. he just kind of creeps around.
01:01:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He doesn't even have a cool saber scene at all.
01:01:41
Mason
good point.
01:01:41
Zack
That's true. Okay, wild card. I'm going with... This is kind of an interesting one, but I'm going to go with Duel of the Fates from episode one.
01:01:55
Zack
Okay. Just the whole the whole soundtrack and the song going that's become kind of famous after the fact with the fight between Obi-Wan and Darth Maul that we've talked about earlier.
01:02:11
Zack
That is one of the most epic lightsaber battles. Episode one had a lot of issues and had some... It was definitely not the greatest movie in the world, but that was a very, very cool fight scene.
01:02:23
Zack
And one of the coolest, like the soundtrack behind it and the fact that it's kind of it's kept its legs where if you hear it now, you immediately think of it. And it's just it's kind of unique in that way.
01:02:35
Zack
So that's my walker.
01:02:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Dang, I was really hoping you going to go with the Star Wars Christmas special, have the singing Ewoks,
01:02:45
Zack
ah
01:02:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
01:02:47
Zack
Love an Ewok.
01:02:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and all those all those guys. um Well, it kind of sucks that just ah trashed on episode one because that's going be my last pick is movie. I'm going to go with episode one.
01:02:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
01:02:59
Zack
didn't trash on it.
01:03:00
Zack
said it had problems that point.
01:03:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, it did. It had problems. Jar Jar is an interesting character. Yeah. amongst a kid
Impact of Star Wars Episode I
01:03:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Anakin. People don't really like him.
01:03:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah i don't know why he he blew up a whole space station by himself. Bet you guys didn't know how to fly like that. um And then it has the the famous Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan fighting Darth Maul scene.
01:03:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think that's just really cool.
01:03:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um It kind of just, it was an awesome way to set up this franchise, like this the are this trilogy, like it being the first of the three.
01:03:26
Mason
Yeah. yeah
01:03:28
Zack
yes
01:03:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
don't know. I thought it was really good, especially when it came out. i was a little kid and I was like, this is the coolest thing I've ever experienced in my life.
01:03:45
Zack
Yeah, I wasn't, I was too, what year did that, what year did episode one come out? Because
01:03:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think 2000. My. Okay.
01:03:52
Zack
Yeah, I don't think i got locked in until episode three. When it came out, I remember going to the theaters and watching it, and it was like, oh, this is awesome. But episode one two, I was a little bit young for, I think.
01:03:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:04:02
Mason
ninety ninety nine
01:04:03
Zack
Yeah, four. I do not remember that one.
01:04:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah I, I, I know I was little. Um, my grandma was a huge star Wars fan. She like, like collected, um, the action figures and stuff.
01:04:12
Zack
Hmm.
01:04:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I have like a chest full of old and open to action figures, but, um, So I was always watching Star Wars stuff.
01:04:25
Zack
Episode 3 came out in 2005.
01:04:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:04:30
Zack
So that makes...
01:04:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's when you're like in your prime.
01:04:31
Zack
I would think 10. Yeah, that's when you're kind of getting into it.
01:04:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:04:35
Zack
Could you imagine the discourse if Episode 1 came out now? Like, if everyone was waiting on it? I don't know what would happen. Because I don't know what the equivalent of a franchise-like Star Wars coming back and doing something like that.
01:04:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Thunderbolts.
01:04:51
Zack
Thunderbolt. it was I don't know. i truly don't think we have something like that because maybe it was like...
01:04:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that has such a huge fan base with that big of a gap.
01:04:59
Zack
Yeah, I don't know what it would be. Because it was so beloved that it was... Everyone so excited for it and then it came out and everybody was oh, this is...
01:05:13
Zack
It looks very good, but it's just the story is not great and there's some problems.
01:05:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This is...
01:05:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The story was fine.
01:05:20
Zack
I think it was hated.
01:05:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
People just...
01:05:21
Zack
a lot of people really like it when it came out.
01:05:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
People just like to hate stuff because it's not their...
01:05:26
Zack
It's young Anakin was super cheesy and, was trying to flirt with Padme and...
01:05:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He was like eight years old. And I hope ah hope all those old Star Wars fans... Kid had Riz. What do you expect him to do?
01:05:36
Zack
grown Did he?
01:05:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
saw an angel.
01:05:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Guess what? It worked. Because she sat around and waited for him until he became his come of age.
01:05:42
Mason
that
01:05:43
Zack
Age difference.
01:05:47
Zack
By episode three, they figured it out for sure.
01:05:51
Mason
that pod scene is yeah
01:05:51
Zack
There's a lot of politics in the first episode. First episodes. a lot of like Senate talk and like trade routes and
01:05:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that all that was... I could not care less about any of that.
01:06:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Fast forward to that.
01:06:03
Mason
especially when you're a kid watching all that you're like what
01:06:07
Mason
Probably i' not paying attention to that.
01:06:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
about tariffs.
01:06:13
Zack
some serious tariff talk in episode one. um
Speculative Star Wars Content
01:06:17
Zack
I would, I really get them excited. At some point we're going to get a really good like Jedi Knights show and it's going to be awesome.
01:06:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:06:25
Zack
I feel it.
01:06:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Apparently it's in the works.
01:06:28
Zack
I don't know Like I want it.
01:06:30
Zack
I want like a, it's kind of like a workplace drama, but it's like, Jedi you know it's like I'm trying to think not a comedy but don't like they're cops and they're going out and they're like
01:06:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay. Okay.
01:06:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay.
01:06:52
Zack
like a NCIS or something you know but it's yeah yeah yeah yeah
01:06:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
the NCIS of star Wars, but they're Jedi's like going and doing their missions and stuff. All right. I see what you're saying. That's kind of, that's kind of like what clone wars was because it's just like all the missions Anakin and Obi-Wan went on.
01:07:05
Zack
yeah
01:07:08
Zack
yeah Pretty cool. Okay.
01:07:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Something to about Disney. Hope you're listening.
01:07:13
Zack
We feel good about that, everybody.
01:07:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
that Zach, Zach might've just cooked you up. A good idea.
01:07:18
Zack
I'll need some brainstorming still. It's a high-level idea. It needs a little bit of nuance added. There's something there, though.
01:07:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There's something. I agree.
01:07:30
Zack
What about if that comes back life?
01:07:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No one wants or needs that anymore. We're done with that.
01:07:38
Zack
I have heard the...
01:07:41
Zack
The crime
Parenting and Media Sharing
01:07:42
Zack
underworld show of, uh, with what's his face, the big fat dude.
01:07:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Jabba the Hutt.
01:07:49
Zack
That'd be sick. I would love a job of that spinoff where he's like running.
01:07:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What it...
01:07:54
Zack
He's running things.
01:07:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's going to have a lot of Bubba Fett in it. That was his guy.
01:08:01
Zack
Yeah, you're right. It could be good though.
01:08:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Careful what you wish for.
01:08:06
Zack
I don't know. Job of that may be not a fun character to watch whole show about.
01:08:10
Mason
Where he's speaking, you'd have to read the subtitles, right? Because he's like talking and wow car out were like he's like, wow, wow, wow.
01:08:14
Zack
Okay. What if we give Han Solo a movie? Han Solo movie?
01:08:20
Mason
we didn't yeah We didn't even bring up Han Solo movie at all.
01:08:23
Zack
Yeah, probably i good.
01:08:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's because I think I want to just watch Star Wars in chronological order.
01:08:25
Zack
um I am excited for the next six episodes of Andor.
01:08:33
Mason
I still have draft pick.
01:08:33
Zack
i'm I think I'm going to start a full rewatch of finishing Andor, going into rug One, and then watching A New Hope and just kind of watching it all.
01:08:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Morgan's never seen any of it. maybe i could get Maybe I should start that.
01:08:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
probably not going to happen though.
01:08:55
Zack
You could probably not.
01:08:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's it. That's a like me and Tatum thing. One day I can make him do that.
01:09:02
Zack
Definitely.
01:09:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
See, that's perks of having a ah boy is I can now make him like Macy. I can't make her do anything. She's she'll she'll punch me and say she's bored.
01:09:09
Zack
Yeah.
01:09:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But ah she doesn't she's like, I don't like the Jaguars. so I'm like, well, I guess can't make you Tatum has to like all the things I like. Like that's just part of having a son.
01:09:23
Zack
Yeah. The problem is, is like you you want them to if you really want them to like something, it sometimes can be even if it's hard because they're like, eh, good.
01:09:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know. Absolutely.
01:09:37
Zack
You make them watch something that you really like and they're like, Mason sits down one day and watches Infinity War and this is peak entertainment.
01:09:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Little Mason.
01:09:45
Zack
This is the greatest movie ever made. Sit down. The kid's like three hours.
01:09:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Little Mason's like, i just want to get on TikTok. I'm done with this.
01:09:51
Zack
This is too long.
01:09:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
want watch videos of the Rizzler.
01:09:55
Zack
um Imagine what Mason's kid, what his attention span is going to be.
01:10:02
Mason
Oh, it's going bad.
01:10:02
Zack
Mason can't even last 30 minutes watching the movie.
01:10:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah Episode of bluey will be too long for Mason's kid.
01:10:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Shout out bluey seven minute episodes.
01:10:10
Mason
We'll have to take intermission. but We'll do intermission.
01:10:15
Zack
Watch five minutes a night until you're done. With a three-hour long endgame.
01:10:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Gosh.
01:10:23
Mason
And with my last pick, I still have a pick.
01:10:25
Zack
um makes still thinking Oh, I'm sorry. I finished.
01:10:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:10:30
Zack
um we forgot.
01:10:32
Mason
Zach is just going on. i even said, still have a pick left. And he's like, yeah, that's something to think about.
01:10:35
Zack
i I was cooking.
01:10:37
Mason
He's just talking to himself about some theory. Jedi. I'm picking this character because it was, yeah, ah fun to play in the video games.
01:10:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh no.
01:10:48
Mason
Purple lightsaber, Samuel L. Jackson, Mace Windu.
01:10:52
Zack
a good one.
01:10:53
Mason
Well, and oh, I got it mixed.
01:10:55
Zack
Wow. Damn. Hater.
01:10:56
Mason
Zach said it's a good one. Tens gave me two thumbs down.
01:10:59
Zack
hey there
01:11:00
Mason
i think for me, it was the top two that I had. I waited too long, which was Yoda and Obi-Wan. And those were my top two, so I had to go to my third one.
01:11:11
Mason
um Yeah.
01:11:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i don't I don't know. You wait you watch all the three movies.
01:11:14
Mason
I was back in... Well, go ahead.
01:11:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You wait for Mace Windu to like do something cool. Because he's Mr. like We are not letting you on the council.
01:11:20
Mason
He's kind of all talk.
01:11:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You are not known as a Jedi master. but like you know He's just kind of like rude about everything and acts like he's the most powerful Jedi in the council. And then the one time you get to see him fight against Palpatine, he gets murked instantly.
01:11:34
Mason
He dies. Yeah.
01:11:38
Zack
Yeah.
01:11:38
Mason
I think it was just the whole, like, you have some of the same, like, is ah does anybody else have a purple lightsaber like that? When you're a kid you find, like, the unique, like, don't know.
01:11:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No.
01:11:48
Mason
It was just, like, and it was a fun character.
01:11:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That part's cool.
01:11:51
Mason
Yeah, fun character ah to play on the video games.
01:11:53
Zack
I saw a, I did see a funny video where it was George Lucas and Samuel Jackson talking.
01:11:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
that
01:12:03
Zack
Did you see that?
01:12:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:12:05
Zack
Because Samuel Jackson was like, does anyone have any colors other than green?
01:12:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
About the purple lightsaber.
01:12:12
Zack
He's like, no. And Samuel L. Jackson was like, what about purple? And George was like, maybe we can work with that. and he Then he shows up with purple eyesaber.
01:12:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
01:12:22
Zack
Fine, give him viewre the purple eyesaber.
01:12:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know, but see, that's that's but that's one of those things.
01:12:25
Zack
Kind of sick, though.
01:12:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's like no one else has it. There's no reasoning behind it. And all the other reasoning with the lightsabers is blues for Padawans. And then you get the green when you get promoted to knight.
01:12:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So what are we doing?
01:12:42
Mason
And then Ray gets a yellow one that's the end.
01:12:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I didn't like that either.
01:12:47
Zack
Well, there's a lot of lore behind what the color of your lightsaber is. Like Ahsoka has a white one, I think, right?
01:12:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes.
01:12:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's because she's a gray Jedi.
01:12:56
Zack
Yeah. So there's more to that, but it's kind sick.
01:12:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But yeah. But yeah, there's no purple. That's just Samuel Jackson wanted to be cool.
01:13:03
Zack
Yeah, there is. It's Windu. And it it was cool.
01:13:06
Mason
all
01:13:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And it worked.
01:13:07
Mason
And it was cool.
01:13:07
Zack
I saw a lot of purple lightsaber merch, I'm sure.
01:13:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right. That was a draft.
01:13:15
Zack
Cool.
01:13:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I can't wait to get roasted
01:13:15
Mason
Thank you.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
about it.
01:13:17
Zack
Great work, everybody. All right. Well, we will be back. We have, it's kind of a quiet time right now in sports, but we just around the corner, there is a looming football.
01:13:34
Zack
It's coming.
01:13:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, OTAs are about to start up.
01:13:39
Zack
MLB NBA playoffs.
01:13:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
01:13:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
NBA playoffs have actually been fun. That's why I'm behind on TV shows because I'm like, I'm going to put on this game and if it turns out to be a bad game, I'll turn on Andor or Daredevil and it's like, oh, these games are actually really good.
01:13:43
Zack
Yeah.
01:13:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
so and NBA playoffs have been good. NHL playoffs are always good. um Two game sevens over this weekend.
01:14:02
Zack
One right now. All right.
01:14:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, against the Blues.
01:14:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But yeah, no. So it's it's been a fun time. for If you like those sports, you're going to get bets out of us because ah we're not good at betting those at all.
01:14:17
Zack
Fact. Fact.
01:14:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And the avalanche broke my heart again two years in a row.
01:14:21
Mason
Mm-hmm.
01:14:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't know why i keep doing this. I'm burning the hat.
01:14:29
Zack
Okay. Well, I think that's the show, everybody. We hope you have a great week and we will see you next time.