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The American Craftsman Podcast Ep. 52 | Season 1 Finale
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On Episode 52 of The American Craftsman Podcast, hosted by Greene Street Joinery, we look back on one year of podcasting as we close out season 1.
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Here we are.
Podcast Anniversary and Reflections
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Episode 52. The one-year anniversary. Memories. Sands. Beer vision. Beer vision's not working. Oh, wow. There's always some kind of technical difficulty. Yeah. That's an understatement. Lots of difficulties. Just think, back to that first week. Yeah, man.
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52 weeks ago. Yeah. How many episodes did we do a deadwood? Uh, 15 ish. Uh, well, you know, you kind of missed a couple there. Maybe, uh, maybe episode 20 was where we say I could tell you by looking at the thumbnails on YouTube. Yeah. So I want to say like around,
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Episode 11 is when Deadwood got his his limb cut off. He's got his branch trimmed. Yeah, Manny came in on that. That episode. Let's see. Are you sure you join our YouTube, your channel videos? Looks like.
00:02:49
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25 23 Hmm looks like 16 was the last one Wow The festival yeah the festive is spectacular what an awkward and bizarre moment that was
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Oh boy. Look at that. Yeah. You could smell death hanging in the air. Yeah. We would cut it with a knife. Yeah. So 16, 15, 14. No, they're 13. He was here for a good dozen shows. Yeah.
00:03:42
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Well, here is, uh, yeah, he was present. His, his physical presence, the physical manifestation was there. Yeah. So it's a, it's been the dynamic dual for four, yeah. Basically 40 episodes.
00:04:03
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Can you imagine we got that much to talk about? They haven't even scraped the surface yet. This is the PG version. Wait till we see how deep we get on this new format we got coming up. Oh, man. I don't know. Should we talk about that at all? Yeah, we should. I guess let's do the beer of the week and then... Yeah, let's get some lubricant.
00:04:29
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Yeah, so, uh, beer vision's down. But... So this beer right here, you notice... That looks like it's handmade. It's completely unlabeled. I don't know what the hell that was that was on there. I made this beer. Really? I made this January 1st, 2012.
00:04:49
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Wow. And I've been hanging on to it for nine years, nine and a half years. Um, I was, this made it through hurricane Sandy literally was in the house. I recovered it. Uh, so yeah, I've had this for a long time. I've been saving it for something. I figured this is good.
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I didn't drink it when I got married. I didn't drink it when I had a kid. But we're drinking it now. Those seem like maybe too special for this, but this is just the right caliber of event for this beer. So this, you see, it's got some bubbles in it. This is probably going to be very flat. This is a bourbon barrel porter.
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with, uh, I aged it on oak staves with Maker's Mark bourbon. Um, it was pretty strong. I don't know what it is now, but we'll see. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna pour out the whole thing because it might, it might not even be very good. And where'd you make it? I made it in my house. Wow. So you were like a home brewer. Yeah. There goes the phone turned on. I can smell the bourbon.
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Yeah. Wow. That's dark. Yeah, we'll go. We'll go just to the logo for now. Wow. Look at the color on that. That's chocolatey. That's like the color of espresso. It actually seems to have more bubbles than I thought, but it was never very carbonated. So this year made this, uh,
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10 years ago. Cheers. Cheers to you. And to all you out there. There goes my second phone just turned on and it still gets text messages and everything going off like crazy. Not bad. Yeah. Kind of lacks a lot of flavor.
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Let me turn this thing off. Nice. Bourbon barrel porter. I still taste some
Tool of the Week: Makita Vacuum
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of the bourbon. Yeah, a little bit. It's definitely a little boozy. But not bad. Yeah. Not bad for homebrew.
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Um, what do you say we do tool of the week and then family can, that way we get those out of the way. Yeah. So it's been, uh, quite almost like Christmas, as you said the other day. Um, yesterday evening we got in the mail, our vacuum, our long awaited, uh, Makita cordless vacuum. What do they call it? L X T or something like that? L X T is what they call the cordless line.
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Right. But you can plug this vacuum in. Right. And it's cute. It's like a little crock pot sized vacuum. But man, this is this is why it's tool of the week.
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Now we got it for the van so that we could, you know, if you're in somebody's house, clean up, you know, right, right. It comes with this, um, floor sweeper attachment that is better than the one we have a Miele vacuum in the house. It's better than that.
00:08:34
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Yeah. It was, it sucked down to the mat. Right. Um, now with the batteries running on two batteries, it's whisper quiet and it's still cleaned off the mats in the shop. Like nobody's business with the plug with the, you know, the one 10, you had a hard time pushing it.
00:08:54
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Yeah, it was actually moving the mat around. Yeah. This thing is awesome. Probably about half the decibel, maybe not half, two thirds of decibels as the Festool CT-15. Oh, yeah. I mean, we easily could talk over it. Yeah, where the Festool is quiet compared to like a rigid or something like that, but way louder than this Makita.
00:09:17
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Yeah. So it winds up being, for me, way better than expected. Really like pick it up one hand, not cumbersome at all, and just totally perfect for the task of, you know, stone in the van and bringing it into somebody's home where
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being cordless and corded, we bought the light, that's the same thing that way. Those are two things that use a significant amount of battery, but typically you have a plug. But sometimes, like this commercial job we just wrapped up, you run into a job where there's no power at all.
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It's either you lug the generator with you or you know, you're trying to steal power off somebody's extension cord, which yeah, who wants to do that? Yeah. Both these take two batteries. Yeah. Yeah. They're the 36 volt. Makita calls it. Yeah. Not to be confused with their 40 volt, which is, those are singular batteries. But yeah, I mean, super convenient. Yeah. Really, really nice.
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You have a bunch of those. You have the miter saw, the track saw, the vacuum, the light now, that all take the two batteries. Yeah. And I mean, the sticker price on it, you might be a little shocked by it, but it comes with two hoses, two really nice hoses, that full on like janitorial caliber floor sweep. Yeah, aluminum or I guess like aluminum arm.
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Even like the I had the Festool cleaning kit, not the super expensive one, but the one that was like only like 100 bucks. And it's all plasticky. And like you feel like you can't push down because it's going to bend. It bends the whole plastic thing. This is two pieces, aluminum, big heavy duty floor attachment. Even the crevice tool is longer and seems like better plastic.
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Comes with also two hose attachments to fit different types of tools. Yep. Yeah, one that's like a 35 millimeter, whatever it is, the same as the Festool stuff. And another that's even smaller. Yeah, I wonder if that fits in like the planer or something like that. The planer fits a 35, but probably fits in like an orbital sander, like the non-Festool orbital sanders have those really small dust ports.
00:11:41
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Oh, yeah. You know what it reminds me of? I had that old Makita belt sander. Yeah. It looks like that size where the bag fits on like a 70s. Yeah. Yeah. I knew it looked familiar. But if you're in the market for something like that, you can't go wrong. You really can't go wrong.
00:12:04
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Yeah, we bought a new open box on eBay. Um, I think we paid 450 bucks. Yeah. You know what else is cool? I love the big paddle switch on the top. Yeah. Yeah. You can sort of tap it with your foot or just reach down and give it a smack. Um, yeah. So
00:12:28
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You're going to superimpose a picture of it. Yeah, I'll get a couple of shots and then, as always, there'll be a link in the description. So I brought a piece of the box along. I was going to use it as a prop. Yeah, but this camera can even barely see ourselves. Potato vision.
00:12:46
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So there you go. Yeah, Makita, something or another. Forget that model. DC something 40. What do they call it? Well, you might you might as well hold it up now and we'll see if we can see what we can see. XCV XCV04Z, I think it's up in that corner.
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Yeah, you can kind of see it if it tilted back like that. Yeah, XCV04Z. That floor sweep is the business. It looks like a toy, like a kid's toy. It does. And it's small. It's tiny, but it comes with several bags. It's only about 14 inches off the ground, maybe. It is very small.
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But it's no toy. I mean, we're not going to make that much dust on one job, typically. So, you know, mostly it's going to be just for cleaning up maybe a couple of scribes with a planer or a couple of cuts with the miter saw. But yeah, I mean, we love it's a HEPA. Yeah, right. Yeah, it is. Yeah, we love to keep the workplace clean, especially when you're in somebody's house, you know, roll back the carpets, cover everything up. But this is just in case we make some extra dust.
00:13:57
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Oh, yeah, always better to vacuum than sweep. Yeah, sweeping just makes more of a mess. Yeah, so I guess
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Should we talk about what we're planning for the podcast or do we know well enough to divulge information yet? We have, we have a framework. Yeah. Um, but, uh, maybe, maybe we'll, uh, maybe we'll hold off then we'll just keep this as our 52 retrospective. Yeah. I guess we could just jump into the, yeah, into the new format. There's need to be a, uh, no big announcement.
00:14:37
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No, because what the hell? Yeah. You're gonna listen or you're not? Exactly. So we're not telling you. You'll see next episode. I think we're gonna take next week off, get our shit in order. Yeah. And then we'll start with season, we'll call it season two, episode one. Yeah. Dancing girls. We're gonna have them here.
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have to come in through the backs of my in-laws from
Lessons from Podcasting's First Year
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Sin City. That's the surprise. We're going to pump up the viewership. Yeah. On the YouTube. Yeah. We'll get demonetized real quick.
00:15:19
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So we got a couple questions this week. I didn't I didn't ask for questions because I figured we'd be talking and we have some some podcast memories. Mm hmm. Got some of those from some folks as well. I guess here we go. This one's from Nick, Nick Traer on Instagram. What have you learned now that you've been doing this for one year?
00:15:42
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Wow. I'm talking about woodworking. Yeah. He's probably talking about the podcast and, and I guess in general, um, I can still remember you suggesting that we could do a podcast and me thinking, why?
00:16:02
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What is a podcast? Exactly. I mean, I knew what a podcast was cause I'd seen a few like people giving guitar lessons and things like that. Um, but I didn't think that I had a much to offer in the, in the field and certainly not thinking that we would do an episode a week for a whole year. Yeah. Uh, and we had some marathon sessions too.
00:16:32
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Oh yeah. The episode with Manny. I mean, and a couple with John Peters that were three plus hours long. You start tacking on the Patreon. I mean, we were sat with Manny from like, we used to start, I think around 12 o'clock then 12 o'clock till six o'clock at night or something. Yeah, those were long. I do have to give credit though to Alex and I forget the other dude's name.
00:16:59
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The podcast was their idea. Yeah. Um, was that the guys from hamburger patties? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They, uh, the guys that do big mics, um, social media stuff, Alex Nichols and same Charlie. I don't remember. Yeah, me neither. Charlie. No, Mark. Alex and Mark. Yeah. You could be telling me their names and I wouldn't know.
00:17:28
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They came we had them come to the shop. We want to talk about you know, maybe then they could help us out with With the social media maybe come in and shoot some content and stuff because it it takes us away from our work trying to Even just take pictures you get out of the out of the working mindset because we don't look at each step as like a
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We're working towards the final product. Granted, we step back and appreciate our own work sometimes when we're in the thick of it, but most of the time we're just working. So it's not second nature to be like, oh wait, I should document this. So we were looking to maybe have them come in and
00:18:14
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help us out with that. But they were saying, uh, Alex said, you know, you guys really, what you should do is start a podcast. And he even said, he's like, you know, six months, a year from now, whatever. Like you're not going to see any, any, uh, real effect until, you know, it's like a, you're playing a long game with that. So, I mean, we did heed his advice and tried it out. Yeah. So I was surprised we were able to talk for an hour the first time.
00:18:45
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I wasn't. I thought it was going to be like 15 minutes. No, they call it like a micro podcast. Yeah. Yeah. You said, no, it's got to be at least an hour. I'm like, Oh shit. Yeah. That was after the first one. Like guys were like, man, we went for an hour. That's, we've got to try and pair that down. No, that's like people listen to Joe Rogan. He goes like three hours, four hours. So what, what have we learned?
00:19:13
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Well, I certainly had to learn how to use a camera, how to do the audio, how to put it on YouTube, put it on the podcast thing. Yeah, a lot of technical stuff. Yeah.
00:19:30
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I learned that there are people interested in just listening to a couple of guys like us just talk about woodworking. That kind of shocked me. Yeah. And I guess because I never really thought about like we listen to music all day long. I suppose if you're
00:19:51
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Working by yourself sitting at a desk or in the shop by yourself. There's only so much you can You know listen to it entertain yourself throughout the day. I have some kind of like background noise you have a commute Right, and I never I never thought about
00:20:08
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substituting a podcast for that medium in any way, like, you know, music book on tape or something like that. Right. So it's not like, you know, I was always thinking like a talk radio or something was the format, but it's it doesn't it doesn't have to be quite that engaging, I suppose, because a lot of people are just kind of listening to it.
00:20:37
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while they're doing something else yeah yeah but I mean that's I mean a radio that's definitely the case yeah not many people are sitting like in a chair at home like pop on the radio right so I mean it is I think it is similar to like a talk radio show
00:20:55
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where people are definitely, I feel like I keep hearing things upstairs, people are actively listening but they may be, you know, engaged in some sort of other activity at the time. And I guess you could rewind if you missed something. Oh yeah. Because even though we record it live, it's delayed, you know, it's uploaded and then... Yeah, nobody hears this.
00:21:18
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Yeah. The other thing I learned was that there are a bunch of people out there that are in the same boat as us, you know, doing their thing, trying to fight the good fight, do quality work, compete with all these larger, you know, factory kind of production facilities and even people that are just acts. Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:49
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So we have a little bit of a community. Yes. People from all over the world. That was the thing that used to blow my mind originally. Yeah. Looking at the charts and seeing
00:22:03
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You know, I mean, we're consistently ranking in Canada, England, Norway. I mean, we have people listening in, I forget. It was like 30, 40 countries. Yeah, and the Australian listeners. Yeah, we have quite a few. Australia is, I think, maybe third behind Canada. So that's pretty cool. Yeah. And being able to connect. So I guess that's about it.
00:22:34
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Yeah. And we got these comfy chairs. Although the set doesn't look as. It's not as shopy as it was. Yeah. But it's nice for us because.
00:22:49
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Yeah, it was a lot of time and effort. Yeah. Setting up in the shop was really, really, it became an ordeal in a way, setting up and then breaking down. Yeah. It turned this from a 12 o'clock to a two o'clock. Yeah. And we were, I mean, we were going late every, every single episode, basically.
00:23:10
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Yeah. And we were having guests back then. Um, so that really stretches out the episode. Yeah. Yeah. It's tough. I mean, there's only so many people locally and, um,
00:23:25
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You know, it's we kind of need to know the person. Mm hmm. Like you can't just bring on a complete stranger. No, we're not like Johnny Carson able to interview somebody. No, no. Yeah. And he's got a whole team of people behind doing, you know, like, oh, this is a person who people know. Let's find out about whatever. Yeah. You're just some guy that we've never met. It's going to be tough to sit down and talk for an hour, potentially. We could still have Tommy G on one of these days. Oh, yeah. We know Tommy G.
00:23:55
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And, uh, cause that, that's going to be a long day. We're going to have to pack a lunch for that. Yeah, it might have to be multiple. It will see one of these, uh, subjects that we're looking at for season two. He fits in there. Man, you must like that. Yeah, not bad. Me.
Woodworking Tool Recommendations
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I don't know. I'm not a big fan. So, um, this is, this is one's, uh,
00:24:25
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I mean, we make lots of jokes with all the jokes about Woodpecker, Bridge City, et cetera, and their overpriced products. I'm not sure if you guys have suggested an alternative for some of their products. Yeah, I think so. What products or brands would you recommend for a good set of layout tools, specifically squares in the 12 to 36 inch range that are accurate for woodworking and not just rough carpentry? Thanks. Keep up the pod. That's from Nick.
00:24:54
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One of our loyal patrons. So brands that we've suggested, Starrett of course.
00:25:01
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PEC, Products Engineering Corporation, I think that's what I was saying. On the cheaper side, have some eye gauging stuff. None of they're like squares, but I have heard from a lot of people and people that I do respect that they have their squares and that they're accurate. I mean, honestly, I can never see myself using a 36 inch square.
00:25:30
Speaker
Yeah, that's big. I know there's people that are. Maybe they just have a different workflow or, you know, I mean, it's one of those things that you don't necessarily need, but you want. That's fine. I mean, a framing square, find it, go to the store and find, go to bring it to the plywood area and bring a pencil and find yourself a square framing square. Yeah.
00:25:58
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I mean, if it's if it's square enough where your line, you know, you can't tell that the line is off, then that's pretty damn square. It's square enough square enough. Have you ever tried building like puzzle, you know, pieces of furniture with secret compartments? And I mean, so what works for us may not work for you, but I think a good framing square is that's a multitasker. Yeah.
00:26:23
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Have you ever tried fixing a framing square with any of those old tricks where you hit the corner and stuff like that? Yeah, I've heard about it. I've never tried it because it's so cheap that when it's not square, you just get rid of it and get a new one. Yeah, so I like the eye gauge and the PEC. And PEC's pretty, they're not cheap cheap, but quite reasonable. Yeah, I mean, they're probably two thirds the price to stare at.
00:26:53
Speaker
Right. So right off the bat, there you go. You can find those things all over the Internet. Yeah, especially the blemished. Mm hmm. Yes. So those are inexpensive, totally effective. Mm hmm. Not as not as pretty as all the polished aluminum stuff, but they're equally as good as far as doing the task.
00:27:21
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Yeah, and, you know, if I don't know if you're using that many squares, maybe just maybe reevaluate what you're using them for. And if there's another way to do it. Yeah. We value make some stuff that we use. That's pretty inexpensive. Smaller squares. We use that for that wide bladed. Yeah. Veritas. Yeah.
00:27:47
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Yeah. Like if you're, if you need to square something across 36 inches, like see, you might have a square reference somewhere else and this is like a measuring tape and a straight edge kind of situation. Or you could always just use, you know, Pythagorean theorem.
00:28:05
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Yeah. Start getting into math there. You know, seems like a lot of layout tools. Keep around. I think, you know, I think one of the things that Woodpecker did was made the collecting and display of these tools part of the thing. Yeah. Whereas you'd, I would say without much hesitation, nobody needs that many layout tools.
00:28:32
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No, no. Because one or two is really going to do the job. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, I use a framing square today to draw some lines across the, for to mark the center of plywood, to put screws. I use the double square to mark three-eighths to find the center of plywood, but I can't remember the last time I've needed a... Yeah.
00:29:03
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You know, it's one of these hyper specific kind of layout tools like the things with the holes in them. Yeah, I just don't I don't. I can't think of a time where I needed that. No, no, you know, we make furniture and some cabinets and things like that and.
00:29:23
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I don't know what other people are doing that they need all those things. Maybe there's something that they make that they need. That would be the interesting thing to hear. It's like, why do you need so many squares? Yeah, like a 36 inch square.
00:29:43
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What kind of reference surface does it, you know, it's a, you still only have a six inch reference surface. Yeah. That's the thing. It's like one of those sheetrock frame, you know, those are like four feet, right? But the blade, you know, the blade is four feet, but then, uh, what would you call the T part of it? That's only 16 inches. Yeah. Well, 16 and then whatever. So on the other 20 inches.
00:30:09
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That's the question. There's probably the want aspect and the need aspect. Yeah, that money is better spent somewhere else. Right, like on a table saw. Or a new blade, a new hand plane, you know, whatever, block plane or something, a chisel. All right, so there you go, Nick. I don't know, where's Nick from? I'm not sure. Yeah, but generally speaking, all the brands we talked about are available everywhere.
00:30:40
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You know, even if he's in Europe or... Oh, yeah. Yeah. These type of tools are... Got one here from Colin. Speaking of Australians. Yeah, Beaver Badger. Have you used or planned to use any recycled timbers or repurpose any, i.e. charcuterie boards into something else? He's asking, are we going to take charcuterie boards and turn them into something else?
00:31:04
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Well, like a trivet? Yeah, I mean, it's almost, yeah. The only thing I can think of. Coaster? Firewood? Yeah. You know, I've yet to be invited to a party that had charcuterie.
00:31:25
Speaker
Well, you don't eat charcuterie. So yeah, but I would, I mean, I would sample in fact, you know, cause I don't really eat meat, right? You know that. But, uh, Andrew came home from a cousin Maria's on Sunday with the four meatballs and, uh, I quickly ate too. Oh man. Then I saved two and had them the next day.
00:31:49
Speaker
I wonder you looked like that on Monday. I thought you were a little off. Yeah. They were smooth going down now. You know, I mean, you have a pretty strict regimen. You know what it's like when you fall off the wagon. Yeah. Then you get that guilt. Yeah. Then you feel like garbage.
00:32:12
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But, you know, if there was a nice charcuterie display, I might, you know, pick around the edges there. A latte. Mortadella. Yeah, so either I just don't know the right people, I'm not on the A-list. I don't know what the thing is. No, charcuterie's been downgraded to like the E-list. Here's the thing, all these, you see people like put up pictures like, oh, charcuterie platter.
00:32:38
Speaker
It's not even charcuterie. Yeah, you got cheese and grapes. That's not charcuterie. No, look up the word charcuterie. Yeah, let's look what the definition is Yeah Of course when you put it in charcuterie board is the first thing to come yeah charcuterie
00:33:06
Speaker
Cold cooked meats collectively. There you go. That's it. Or a store selling cold cooked meats. Not cold cooked. Cold cooked meats. Right. Yeah.
00:33:23
Speaker
And then you have this, like, from Natasha's Kitchen, whoever the hell that is. What should be on a charcuterie platter? To make a charcuterie board, arrange things so they are easy to grab. Fan out the slices of cheese, cut grapes into small segments. Who cuts grapes? First off, we just learned that there's no cheeses or grapes and grapes. Cheeses, meats, pickled items, pickles are fine. Condiments and spreads, fresh fruit, nuts and extras.
00:33:52
Speaker
Arrange crackers and toasts in remaining spaces or serve them in a separate platter. And she's got a video. I wonder how many charcuterie boards she owns. She might be the one buying them all. This is just the same old story. You got people giving advice who have no idea what they're talking about. No.
00:34:21
Speaker
I want to know the origins of this misappropriation of the charcuterie board. Oh, must go to like Pinterest or... It's a cheese board. Instagram or something like that. A crudite. Oh man, how much crudite have you served in your lifetime? Look at this charcuterie board. It's got broccoli, cauliflower, carrot sticks, celery. And some rolled up ham. Yeah. Now you're lucky if they even have the... It's a Lunchable.
00:34:49
Speaker
So have we have, we haven't used any recycled timbers, have we? Well, you have. Yeah, I have, but I had to a little bit, but not really. Yeah. Back in the, um, back in the last century. Oh no, it was a century at the year, at the early part of the century. Um, this millennium, right. I went out to like Washington, New Jersey to a mill out there.
00:35:19
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the burp on that beer. Yeah. Oh, it's hot. Yeah. And picked out a couple of big logs and I've worked them. That's when I got that scraper plane. Yeah. Yeah. Thinking I was going to level some boards. You know, I was, I was harkening back to my, um, uh, timber framing days, thought I was going to level, level off a scrub plane. I know.
00:35:47
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I didn't know I'm going to scrape this baby flat. Yeah. We just stop and put a hook on this thing every two minutes. Yeah. So I made a bench like a just a seat and I made a bookcase out of like two big, you know, slabs held together. And this kind of segues into what's coming up with these iron straps that I had a blacksmith make. Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:19
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And that was pretty cool. We did that kitchen out of that pine, reclaimed pine. That's right, the pine from Newark. Newark comes back, it's like 300 year old pine beams that were sawing off into boards and that was, Larry Hutt did that for me.
00:36:37
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Go to Larry Hut. He's another one on the shit list. Stick to selling cars, Larry. Back in the old days, there was this company called Eastern Hardwoods and Larry Hut was the guy who ran it.
00:36:52
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and he was from New York in his olden days so he kind of would reminisce about New York and everything and he would bring me wood from this huge wood processing mill that he had. He did mostly flooring and decking and things like that but
00:37:14
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On his way home, he would he had one of those like pickups that kind of looked like a car. Well, not not not like a car, but remember, I had like those long flared sides that came off of the back of the cab was like a Chevy made them El Camino. Yeah, it was kind of like an El Camino, except the modern version. And it was more like a truck, like a little short bed on it and stuff.
00:37:43
Speaker
Oh, like a SS, like a Chevy SS. Yeah, kind of bubbly looking. Yeah, he had something like that and he used to.
00:37:51
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pile up the wood in his truck and bring it to me and he told me about that wood and he said yeah I'm taking these beams down you want me to saw up some of this one before I said yeah and I wound up going into this house that was built in the 1700s they wanted a kitchen and they were kind of an odd couple
00:38:15
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and they never let me back in the house like they were real like secretive and you know I wanted to get back in there to take pictures after it was all done but they were always like fine yeah find an excuse why I couldn't come back
00:38:31
Speaker
I'm the same way. Yeah. Yeah. Try again next week. So I never got really good pictures of that job. Um, but Larry hut, when we were trying to find a lumber supply before we found O'Shea, we hunted down Larry hut. Yeah. He was selling out. He's and, uh, he says, yeah, I'm going to hook you up. Don't worry about it. Let me call you right back.
00:38:57
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That was the last we ever heard of Larry. He should just not call back. Right.
00:39:02
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So anyway, we have you some, the thing is it's expensive. Yeah. And then you got to go through and make sure there's no nails and things like that. In fact, that's why there's a chip in the bed of the, the joint there, right? That from that pine, that old pine, there was a piece of metal buried in there. So what happens is I, we computer dies, I unmute it and then
00:39:30
Speaker
Now I'm getting, uh, you got nothing else. That's what I do during the podcast. I unsubscribe from the emails that show up. So, you know, we're open as far as planning to use it.
Reclaimed Wood Experiences
00:39:42
Speaker
You know, somebody, if the money's green, yeah, somebody wants it, we'll source it and we'll design it and build it. Uh, it's typically not something that people in this area are looking for.
00:39:55
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not the ones with the budgets to work with us. Right. If somebody wants something like a pallet wood, there's pallet wood people. Right. There's like the barn door that's basically face nailed scraps of wood onto a piece of plywood. That's the kind of rustic furniture that people around here want. It's like a low budget.
00:40:18
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Yeah, it's a DIY kind of thing, not where you would pay somebody to actually make it. Right, right, right. It's like something you did on a Saturday and a Sunday in your garage. Right, like the pine kitchen I did was all raised panel doors, solid wood, did the grain matching and all that stuff like you usually do. It was pretty cool, but I left in all of those
00:40:44
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you know, they'll rusting and all those halls. And, um, I even, you know, left more like makers marks in the furniture as I was building it more than usual kind of a land to that, that look, uh,
00:41:02
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So, yeah, if you got any plans, send them over. Colin's always out there, he's cutting, he's like, hey, I'm going to cut down these beefwood trees. They have all these trees I'd never even heard of. What did we just get? Bone wood. Bone wood, yeah. Somebody sent us a bunch of plans. Yeah, with their budget. Yeah, it was like, I mean, minuscule wouldn't even describe their budget.
00:41:28
Speaker
Can you do this, uh, for one, one 10th or one, uh, 20% of what it costs. And that's for the whole thing. Yeah. And then they specked out all this expensive material and then bone wood was one of the woods they wanted, which I don't think David knew what the hell bone wood was. Right. We had to look it up, find out where we could find it. It's an Australian tree basically. And you can find it nowhere.
00:42:00
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Yeah, we want this obscure. We had a very tight budget, but we want this obscure wood that you can't find. And it's also a complicated design. Yeah, and they probably don't grow very large, so that makes it even harder. So Colin probably knows what bone wood is. He's probably sitting on 500 board feet over there. Yeah, yeah.
00:42:21
Speaker
Um, yeah, that was, uh, that was our, um, entertainment for the past week, you know, trying to deal with, I just had to break the news to him this morning that the material costs more than their budget. Yeah. And that there's no cheaper material. And these are like, uh, put air quotes, professional designers. I want to say, yeah, what I wanted to say was where the hell do you come up with this budget? What came first, the design or the budget?
00:42:49
Speaker
Yeah. What happened is they spent all the rest of the money elsewhere and their budget is whatever's left because they couldn't find anybody to build this stuff. And the client already paid them because they said, okay, this is what we're going to give you. And this is how much it costs. And they spent all the money on chairs and mirrors and tile. And now, yeah, we got 10. They spent 90 of the hundred and there's only 10 left. That's where they got the budget. Probably 15 left. They still want to cash in an extra five.
00:43:19
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So we answered our own question. Yeah. When we tell you it's 50 and that's like the, I mean, that was the, that's a good price. And you tell us the budget's 10. Like we were worried we were going to be able to like, you know, make out okay at 50. Yeah.
00:43:38
Speaker
They're like, yeah, we haven't found anybody who can value engineer it. No, that's not value engineering. That's magic. You need a magician, right? Cause the drawings in some instances were really good. Like a, like a professional had drawn them up, but there were so many gaping holes in vital information that we couldn't get answers on. So we were a little bit
00:44:00
Speaker
Concerned about you know 1800 feet worth of wall covering. Yeah wall panels on the walls 1800 square feet Okay. Well that stuff is that the cheapest those call it $2 a square foot, right? How are we gonna do that
00:44:17
Speaker
That's 6,400 right there. Yeah. Or well, 30, no, no, it must've been 3,600. Yeah. Or 3,200 square feet. Sorry. Yeah. 6,400 just in that. Now we got to cut it all, edge band it all, hang it up on the wall. And that's just one aspect of the entire job. Yeah. So there's your 10,000 plus some.
00:44:39
Speaker
like there was this it was in like a like a file drawer yeah for an office building entry and they spec this melamine product that was five and a half dollars a square foot they're like we could do wood and stain if it's cheaper what planet are you living on i like i prefer laminate but if wood and stain is cheaper we can go with that yeah
00:45:06
Speaker
I'd like some draw boxes that are just nailed together, but if you can do the dovetails for the same price... Yeah, or if the dovetails are cheaper than a butt joint... Yeah, yeah, that was... I like Zapeeli, but if teak is cheaper...
00:45:26
Speaker
What were we talking about? I don't even know. Have you planned to use any recycled tippers? Oh, yeah. No, we haven't planned. We don't really plan anything. We don't plan anything, do we? We let the clients do the planning.
00:45:40
Speaker
All right. You want to read this next one? Yeah. It's one coming in for everybody. Manny, uh, always with these, these deep, deep questions. He's a deep thinker that Manny, what is the biggest change you've seen and felt since teaming up together business wise and doing the podcast for Manny too many mistakes on Instagram. I'll tell you the biggest change I felt is in the way business is procured. Mm-hmm.
00:46:09
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Now I just kind of started on a wing and a prayer and It was you know, it's still kind of word of mouth that's the common thread mm-hmm, but back then it was more People would see a sign in the front yard and
00:46:31
Speaker
Or then it became the website. The website was the big thing back then. If you had a website, you were cutting edge. Wow, this guy's got a website? He must be a real deal. He's got a TikTok. And so then they're like the two years that I was off.
00:46:53
Speaker
you know, when we were meeting over there at the, at the long branch saloon and the bread factory. Yeah. Then we came back here and I could start to see the changes taking place like Instagram. You introduced me to Instagram. I didn't even really know what the hell it was. Yeah.
00:47:16
Speaker
And I didn't understand what a powerful mechanism it was going to be because that's really, that's really it. I mean, that's what drives kind of the, um, the, what would you call it? Our brand. Yeah. It's like the first, uh,
00:47:38
Speaker
I don't know what a good word for it is. It's like the first contact a lot of times for people. They see us there or they see somebody who we've worked with repost something and that's how people find us a lot of times.
00:47:55
Speaker
Yeah, that's a whole new world for me, because not only is it a change in the way business is done, it's a change in my world view, in a sense. Here's this invention that came along that I didn't know existed, and now it's a necessary part of doing business. Yeah.
00:48:24
Speaker
I don't know. I would talk to other people that are like my generation that have been in business and see if they feel the same way. Like this is really kind of like turning your world view on its end. Yeah. I mean, I think if you had an established business, it's not as necessary. But if you're starting a new business, it's, it could be a catalyst for, for, you know, growth and success. Yeah.
00:48:48
Speaker
I mean, it was pretty exciting, too, though, that like the prospects of it, when we were just learning, that's how we met John Peters. And there were other people we talked to. It's like, oh, wow, they got a million followers? How does that happen? What do you do? And so that's really, I would say, is the biggest change for me. Yeah, I mean, I'd say, I think maybe, man, he was getting more at
00:49:19
Speaker
Due to teaming up together and the podcast what have we seen change? I was gonna say like just I mean I used to be so ashamed of what I had to do I Mean that's it boils all down to that Over at the other shop, I mean that's just so ashamed and like disgusted by
00:49:45
Speaker
you know, the things that we were made to do and now I don't feel that way at all. You know, there is a certain amount of satisfaction and being able to tell people what you do and then direct them because a lot of times people just
00:50:00
Speaker
take it with a grain of salt. Oh, you're, you're a carpenter or something. You know, right. And then you show, yeah, check us out on Instagram, whatever. Then they're like sort of like, Oh wow. I didn't know people did this.
00:50:19
Speaker
Yeah. And you know what else? If, if we go back, if I backtrack and go to the teaming up part, it's so nice to work with another person that you know, is going to just carry their load. Yeah. You know, we're doing everything yourself.
00:50:41
Speaker
is hard. Um, it's just, you know, you're going to have off days. You're going to get burnt out. You're it. You just wear down. Um, so it's nice to have another person around just to mentally take that load off the top. Yeah. Even if it's like partially placebo, that's right. Cause there's always, you know, with two people there's double the workload. So right. Um,
00:51:08
Speaker
And we're each doing our own bit of worrying. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But you're right. It is a bit of placebo, like leaning on, you know, you always have someone to say, well, does this look, what do you think? Yeah. Should we do this? You know, do this to that.
00:51:26
Speaker
And, and to know that, you know, if, if something happens that you can't do something, I can't go to work today or I, or, you know, I need to do this. There you have your partner to catch you. If you slip off the ladder, it is on the ramp at the hard rock hotel.
00:51:49
Speaker
at the hooker convention. Yeah, that's in the memory department memories. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:52:09
Speaker
Manny Manny, you know Manny's gonna have to come up to the the meet with us the makers Catskill Mountain makers camp Yeah, that we'll be going to in about in actually in a month. Yep. Yeah, we just decided we were gonna go just this just the other day. Yeah yesterday booked our tickets
00:52:32
Speaker
We'll be gone. When I told my wife this morning that we were going to be gone for a couple days, she wasn't upset at all. Mine either. She tried to take one at first. Yeah. My wife says, oh yeah, when you leaving? We were at the town. She did. She put it right on her calendar.
00:52:53
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Manny's going to probably be coming up there with us. I'm working on it. Yeah, we're going to try everything in our power to get him up there. Yeah, I don't see any reason why he's not going to join us. It'd be good. It'd be a good event for Manny. It's going to be a good event for us. Yeah, yeah. Get him some exposure. A little bit of blacksmith thing. Yeah. A little bit of a. Hobnobbing. Yeah, jabber drawing.
00:53:24
Speaker
All right. So that's it, Manny. Thank you for that question. And I see we're coming up to podcast memories.
00:53:35
Speaker
Yeah, so we asked you guys for some of your favorite memories of the podcast. We got a couple here that people wrote in. I guess we'll read them and then we'll give them any comment that we may have. First one's from Marcelo MF Cozy, COSI on Instagram. I think he's in Brazil, if I remember correctly. How you guys met? That's one of his favorite memories. Yeah, on the job. Yeah.
00:54:05
Speaker
I remember meeting Jeff and he had the music on. I said, oh, that's a nice change of pace. Had that great Festool shop job site radio going. And Jeff was living free and easy. He wasn't working for Tom at that time.
00:54:29
Speaker
Well, it wasn't as free and easy as it seems, but yeah, definitely freer and easier. You had not been lured into the hornet's nest. No. Yeah. It was a couple, couple of years before, maybe two, two years prior. Yeah. And rich, who was the installer, he was working. What was the name of the job of going to the, uh, Don chick. Um, Oh, I just had it.
00:55:01
Speaker
Uh, Lou's screaming it out right now. He's screaming into the man. It was like kind of like one of those Czech sounding names. Yeah. Shit. Dan check.
00:55:19
Speaker
I'll get it. All right. So when I was tagging along to help out with the delivery of this kitchen. There you go. And specifically to go look at like these fireplace installations like these mantle installations.
00:55:40
Speaker
And that was my first introduction to working with the designer Lindsay and like none of the math added up. I mean, it was like way off. And then when I was like really just trying, I didn't even come off snarky or anything. Maybe I do just in just as my general way.
00:55:59
Speaker
But I tried to be as delicate as possible pointing out, you know, trying to get information so we could build these things. Right. Yeah. Let's get the let's get this. Let's get the parameters set here. And when I was showing her that she was so condescending, like she's like, I'm used to Tom just fucking it up and he figures it out. He cuts the extra 18 inches. And then I went back to the shops like this woman doesn't know what the hell she's talking about. I don't know how she became a designer. And I don't know who's hiring her.
00:56:28
Speaker
gets like out of the back of a magazine like a personal trainer. Yeah. On a matchbook cover. So she was walking around there like she actually, that's a dated reference. Yeah. She was walking around that job. Like she knew what she was doing. And it was like, sorry, woman. Anyway, that's, that's where we met. And then I went on my hiatus to build the kitchen that Tom didn't want to build.
00:56:56
Speaker
And you got hired in the meantime. Yup. Yeah. Got hired with no discussion amongst with Lou. Hey, we got a new guy. So when it came time for me to go back to Tom's Lou was like, come on, you know, come back. We got a new guy. You're going to like him. He's good. I don't know.
00:57:22
Speaker
And, uh, sure enough, I did like them because here we are. Yeah. Two years later. Yeah. We, we hit it off. We had common bond in our, uh, impatience for Tom. Yeah. The main, the two main spearheads. Okay.
00:57:42
Speaker
That's right. That's right. For your own good. There were many a frustrated afternoon spent trying to figure out how to fix things over there. Oh yeah.
00:57:58
Speaker
And, uh, all the while I had my shop just sort of, you know, getting cobwebs in it. Um, and we talked about maybe, you know, doing something and, uh, push came to shove one day when Tom said they got some good news and some bad news. The next couple of weeks off going on a winter break.
00:58:25
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Tom told me to take a winter break of two weeks, uh, which, and then he never called me back. So I was just kind of forced to go back to work for myself. He must've gotten a new phone and lost your number. Yeah, that's it. You know, I wonder how Tom remembers that episode. I think Tom remembers what, uh, what he did this morning. Yeah.
00:58:52
Speaker
So, oh, I know one thing you could probably add to it when we started with the Instagram. That's when you introduced me to Instagram. Yeah. And you were making my Instagram page. I was the Baron. I'm like, email me all the pictures.
00:59:15
Speaker
And that's the, that is what is now the great street joinery. Those were the seeds. I think that might've been even before you got, that was before I got canned. Yeah. Yeah. We were scheming. Those were the seeds. Jeff, that's a level of shame we had from what we had to do. Jeff had plans. Yeah. I could get this thing off and running. I can be proud to go to work again.
00:59:47
Speaker
What do you remember? Uh, why about getting started? Yeah. Uh, yeah. I remember I was working at dock in doing something and you came to do something with the manos and we hit it off immediately. We were talking about all kinds of shit. You tell me how you live in San Francisco and where a chef and, um,
01:00:10
Speaker
Then I remember you were there working with Rich and Rich is like totally unfriendly. Never. It was like a totally different dynamic like from the first day Rich came onto the because like I was the gatekeeper on the job. Yeah. Project manager wasn't there. I was the next guy. So you come to the job. I'm saying, oh, who are you and what are you here to do? You know what I mean? And Rich was totally
01:00:32
Speaker
He didn't have a very welcoming personality, did he? No, the complete opposite. Very standoffish and insecure is probably the most appropriate word. Yeah.
01:00:49
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The one thing I remember about working on that job is they had me putting in the, uh, the base cabinet for the sink base cabinet and whoever the electrician was on that job.
01:01:04
Speaker
They were all these exposed wires, which, you know, they were all live. They didn't close down any of the circus. Could have been somebody down there at the panel, but yeah, you should have wire nuts on those things. A melted pair. No, you know what it was. Probably Tom. Oh, wait, was it capped? No. Yeah, Tom was probably in there messing around or something. Probably took the wire. He probably pocketed the wire nuts off.
01:01:34
Speaker
I just saved one cent. It was a screwdriver, I think, and you melt it. That's what happened. It's like, whoa, what the hell? Free wire nuts. Somebody shut these things down.
01:01:55
Speaker
Oh, I'm going to help those guys out before they get here today. Take the wire nuts off. So it's easy to get the cabinet on top. Yeah, that's what it was. It's kind of dumb shit that Tom does. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. That was it. That was the beginning. Doc. And that was a nice place. I'd love to go back and see that place. Yeah. All finished and decorated and everything. Yeah. I was in there. I mean, it's nice. And that crazy driveway. Yeah, man.
01:02:25
Speaker
And I spent a lot of weeks at that house. Weeks and weeks and weeks. And then, you know, I remember when I met Rich, I was working on that hair cutting place in the Highlands. Oh, evolution salon. Yeah. And I was helping him out. Like I, cause I didn't go out on installations that much.
01:02:57
Speaker
And you're lucky. I think it's bad in the shop. Yeah, salations is where all the problems go to die. Did you just send it? Send it out. And you know, I remember meeting Rich, but I didn't quite remember him like because the second time I went and met him some months had passed and I wasn't sure it was the same guy. Like, you know, because I didn't really remember him that well.
01:03:27
Speaker
And everybody would tell me how disgruntled he was, but he was always pretty cool with me. He was, I guess, on his best behavior. Maybe we just got along a little bit better. But he wasn't as disgruntled, but I would hear the stories.
01:03:52
Speaker
I can imagine the best part was, uh, I guess I could be easily swayed too. You know, I'd be working with rich and he would be telling me his side of the story. And I'd hear this whole long thing about what's not right coming to his end. Then I go back to work in the shop.
01:04:12
Speaker
I didn't hear the other side of the story. I didn't know what was true. Well, now we know. Yeah. Now we know because I didn't know either side well enough. I would listen to one go. Oh, that's, that's fucked up. And then know the hustle yet. Right. I didn't, I didn't. Um, so when did, so did you not meet rich until you started working with him here? No, no, I met him at talking. Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah.
01:04:42
Speaker
But after that, you more or less replaced them at Tom's, right? Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, like I said, he was so like standoffish that we never. I mean, I try and shoot the shit with anybody on the job site. Oh, yeah. Together, I'm going to got to communicate. That's the whole thing. I mean, you want the whole.
01:05:03
Speaker
The goal is to finish the job to the best of everybody's ability. So the client's happy. So that, you know, everybody gets out of there on time. Um, you know, if the paint is coming in, you, you don't want to, you know, have the electrician dragging their wires through the house and scratching up the walls and, um,
01:05:27
Speaker
Uh, that's how we met. Uh, I could, I could kind of see like one of those Seinfeld episodes happening in my mind, you know, dream sequence. Yeah. Yeah.
01:05:41
Speaker
So Freddy, period craftsman on Instagram, he remembers when we were doing the podcast, when we were driving. And the lady who didn't know how to drive. My only question is, which one? Yeah, that's too vague. Yeah, that was a good episode. I think that was a funny setting for the podcast. Definitely not logistically easy.
01:06:10
Speaker
I could see with the van now, we haven't built like a little center. Oh, yeah. A couple of mic stands. Yeah, that was all right. Show on the road. We might do another mobile podcast. Yeah. Maybe up at the black door. But to see, I don't know. Well, I wouldn't have to upload it till we get back here. Yeah. I could definitely shoot it. We could line a couple of people up. Oh, that would be cool. We could shoot several episodes worth.
01:06:39
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know how much downtime is going to be, but maybe we could maybe do it at night. Yeah. Once everybody gets all tuned up. Yeah. Yeah. Around the campfire. Yeah. Rubio Monaco wants feedback on a recent purchase. Dismiss. Yeah. We wanted more colors. We wanted more of those other colors. Yeah. They have a 40 color sample kit, but they have like 60 colors or something. Yeah. Well, what's that about?
01:07:09
Speaker
That's what your $220 get you. It's not cheap. Yeah. I remember driving up there and you having to be on your best behavior. There are Mike, you should, you guys should hear Jeff on a normal drive up to Newark.
01:07:28
Speaker
It's not me though, it's them. That's the thing. I'm in 100% the right. Jeff likes to get in there, put that cruise control on, and then, you know, just hope for the best. Just drive. I just want to drive. I don't want you getting in my lane, going slower than you were. Oh, that's always the best.
01:07:53
Speaker
And we have decent drivers from the sound of things. People describe the drivers in their areas. But yeah, that was a good memory. I got one here from Jafet, one of our patrons, Jafet Hernandez on Instagram. Rob getting sued for a squeaky bed.
01:08:17
Speaker
Yes. Yes. One of my, one of my lowlights. That was, that was a, I forgot all about that. That was a funny one. This is, this is the kicker. This, this couple who, who sued me, they were old, old friends of my wife's before I met them so much so that when I married my wife
01:08:44
Speaker
we got married in their home. Yeah. I think that, yeah, we were married in their home. See, you owed them something. And this is what it is. You owed them. This whole thing do, you know, was done as like, I mean, they paid me, but it was, you know, that friends and family rate. And every time I went over there, Oh, Rob, can you hang these blinds up? Oh, Rob, can you run this cable through this cab? Never.
01:09:15
Speaker
I was like, Oh my God. Now I'll come back and tell my wife, she's like, please just, you know, just do it. Just do it. Just do it. Then the husband turns around and suits because literally cause the bed squeaks. Oh man. And then to go to small claims court and everything. And the judge was even like mocking the judge goes,
01:09:41
Speaker
Do you want the young man to pay for lunch too while he's at it?
01:09:52
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So you know, justice did, did not prevail. Although I did get them to sign a thing where they could never contact me if I agreed to a settlement amount, which was about $1,100 or something like that.
01:10:14
Speaker
Um, that they could, they had to go on their own merry way and basically like a restraining order type thing, like an NDA kind of like, all right, this is the, this is it closing the file on this one. You can't talk about it. You can't, they can't call me. They can't write me. They have to stay away from me.
01:10:35
Speaker
That must be roof of scratch. So the way I looked at it, it was money well spent because as the people in the court, that was the other thing.
01:10:50
Speaker
the court attorney, the judge, all like the power is in the court. They all felt sorry for me. Like this guy's an asshole. And so I said, they said, you know, this guy's, it looks like he does this for a living. He, he's a, he's a professional at this. This won't be the last time you hear from him. It's bringing back memories of a certain client that we had.
01:11:19
Speaker
Yeah, this table was supposed to have walnut accents Send the email Then they disappeared forever. Yeah Yeah, so it was money. Well spent is there any way we can get rid of the orange smell? You mean the smell of the finish that we told you about that you came to the shop and I held it under your face
01:11:47
Speaker
have a, this will come in and spray spray paint all over your thing. And then, then Oh man. Yeah. See there are people that that's, that's just how they go about things. Um, and, uh, off camera, I could elaborate even further.
01:12:10
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But thankfully it's been smooth sailing ever since. Yeah. Um, and that'll teach you a lesson to do work for people that, you know, where it's not like on a completely business level. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's don't miss business and business and pleasure. Yeah. Mix. Did I say mix? Do not mix them.
01:12:34
Speaker
All right. So I have to say the meetup, even though it's not a podcast moment, it was nice meeting everyone. That's a podcast memory from Brian. Gray Point Woodworks on Instagram. Yeah, it was a good time. It was. Brian posted the picture of the glass this morning. He said it's his wife's favorite glass. I wish it would take him more. Ah, yeah. Is Brian going to be up at the makers? I don't know.
01:13:05
Speaker
That's what we should bring those glasses. Yeah. Oh yeah. We give them away. Yeah. Yeah. Give them out. Um, I know somebody who I'd really like to give one. We can do is if we do the podcast and you come on, like we'll have to, we'll have to give everybody like a five minute or 10 minute time slot and they could take a glass.
01:13:26
Speaker
Yeah, a little like parting gift. You know, like they go on those talk shows like Oprah and stuff. They get little gift bags. We'll like fill it with liquor and we'll make them like drink it before they. There you go. That'll loosen them up. Yeah. What are you what are some memories from the the meetup?
01:13:47
Speaker
Well, we had CT Woodwork and, um, and Bob, the, uh, track inspector traveling all the way from Patchogue, Long Island. Yeah. That's a hike two and a half hours. Yeah. They get the long distance award. Yeah. Yeah. In that summer traffic too. I know. It's like a gnat or something flying around. Yeah. It's all my wife's plants. She's got, we got all these fruit flies. Oh, fruit fly. That's what it is.
01:14:13
Speaker
She'd been trying to grow Venus fly traps. Yeah. I mean, we had the Belford brewery. That was nice in and of itself. Yeah. That's a cool place. Yeah. We should go back there. One of these evenings and hang out. Um, they were the locals, Manny, Lou, you know, always a good excuse to get together. We don't see those guys nearly enough. Yeah.
01:14:42
Speaker
Um, we got drag drag Lou up to the makers camp. Oh, yeah. I'm swinging that, that blacksmith and hammer. Nice. Yeah. I'm looking forward to it. At first, you know, when you, I was looking a little sideways at you when you, when you, it's a good thing. I was driving broach that idea. You know, I was thinking maybe we should go up to that. Who's in this car with me doing a 180.
01:15:09
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Yeah. So faces to names, that's the makers thing will be like that too. And that's what I remember at the podcast too, the meetup. So that was very cool. Um, and, uh, you know, it was weird about the podcast meetup.
01:15:27
Speaker
Now people, they all listened to us, right? So they kind of know things about us and things we've said where we don't have the same advantage, so to speak. So it was a little weird.
01:15:43
Speaker
It's always weird when you meet someone that you know from social media like even you know I had I had talked to most of the people at the thing you know because I were on the Instagram so like I talked to most of those guys anyway so I know like a little bit like at least I've had a conversation but
01:16:00
Speaker
It's always weird when you meet someone in real life who you only know through right media That's like the people I met through social media like Keith John Peters The other Keith so the two keys to bit and blacked on Because now I've met them several times it's I don't think of them as Friends. Yeah, they're just they're guys now the social media thing. I don't even recognize
01:16:32
Speaker
And it'll be the same thing and like next time I run into CT because we spent so much time talking.
01:16:42
Speaker
Yeah, I was like, you know, met Shane from Shane Fay. Yeah. And I mean, I followed Shane on my personal Instagram account since probably, I don't know, 2014 or something. Yeah. I know we've talked a couple of times and talked to him now in a group with him and some other guys. And I mean, it was the first time
01:17:04
Speaker
that we ever met. So it's just weird. Like, like, here's somebody that I've known and known of for like, you know, the better part of 10 years. And then you meet somebody in person, even with John for the first time. Like I talked to John for years before he ever met in person. We were always trying to link up to do something. Um, and just so it never worked out. And then finally we met. It's just, you know, we hit it off right away too. Yeah.
01:17:29
Speaker
you know, who I'm looking forward to meeting is Matt, Matt, this year, because I hear his voice on clubhouse and it's, you know, it's one of the voices I recognize instantly. And it's funny because it's going to be the same kind of thing. Like I listen, I know he's got the shop under what, you know, all these things. He did all that work around the house, building the garden. So it's, it's like, I know a certain aspect of him and his life.
01:18:00
Speaker
Yeah, so he's gonna be up at the makers thing, right? Yeah. Yeah, that'll be cool Now this next question Is this who I think they're referring to so whatever happens to Instagram's most handsome carpenter? That's from anonymous. Yeah, I don't know who who wrote that in but
01:18:24
Speaker
It was a total blank avatar on Instagram. Well, are they referring to Deadwood? No, no way. They're talking about Tim from True Trade. Oh, he actually won the award. He did for Instagram's most handsome carpenter. So where is he?
01:18:45
Speaker
He's a, he's like a travel man these days bouncing from shop to shop, working on his own shop. Wow. Yeah. Working, uh, everywhere between here and DC. Got, got our next question. Not even question. Next memory from, uh, Dave here, Lugerson on Instagram.
01:19:07
Speaker
On the episode about being prepared for on-site install, bring an extra mantle. Do you remember that? No, I was racking my brain if we said that or if Dave is making a reference to one of his own installs. Could it be Kylie Mantle's job? I don't know.
01:19:29
Speaker
That's the thing. It's so, you know, like we shoot this thing and then that's it. It's gone. It's out of the head. And I mean, I might catch a couple of minutes when I'm doing editing, but we've said so many things that I have no recollection of. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's I've watched movies. I couldn't tell you a stitch about them. That's that was what was funny about the meetup to the podcast meetup. People saying, yeah, remember when you said that? I'm like, no.
01:19:56
Speaker
It's not ringing a bell. Ringing an extra mantle. That's good advice. Yes. Yeah, we like to bring lots of stuff and that's why we're outfitting the van. The van's got, so far we got the little job site saw.
01:20:19
Speaker
Uh, we got our big sustainer filled with all like the Makita battery tools. Uh, we got your, um, miter saw in there. Yep. We're going to have all the assortment of hand tools when we get them there on the way. Yeah, there should have been here today, but yeah, everything's delayed because the weekend I noticed the holiday weekend and the hair was that bad weather.
01:20:45
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, yeah, which we got more more rain coming tomorrow. We've got new fancy drill boxes. Yeah. And the new screw box with all those nice labels on them. Yeah, well, that was supposed to be his new screw box, but. Festival doesn't make a screw tray yet for the new sustainers. So it's an old. It's a combination of old and new. Yeah.
01:21:14
Speaker
What else? Oh, we got the the racking tie down system we've yet to put in. Yeah, we got the light and the vacuum, the newest things we were talking about. So it's making, you know, packing out and back in so much easier. Oh, yeah, I forgot what even the hell we were talking about. Yeah, it's easy. What were we talking about? Yeah, being prepared, packing out the extra stuff, bringing in extra mantle.
01:21:46
Speaker
So that's probably the one thing we won't be able to do. Yeah, there'd be no room for a mantle by the time we're done. Yeah, the van fills up fast, doesn't it? Yeah.
01:21:58
Speaker
Uh, I got another one here from Freddie. I think this is probably the, the magnum opus of the whole. Oh yeah. It's the most popular episode that we've done so
Technical Issues and Podcast Success
01:22:08
Speaker
far. So 33 blue machine blues. Oliver was a moment for sure. Oh man. Yeah. I do think it is the, the episode with the most downloads.
01:22:21
Speaker
That that was really an unfortunate lemon that that machine. Yeah. I would love to know what really happened with that machine we sent back.
01:22:36
Speaker
Uh, they probably sold it to some other unsuspecting person who didn't realize that it wasn't working well. Yeah. And figured that's just as good as it gets. Now the palimatic on the other hand has, is worked flawlessly. So yeah, Oliver kicked us to the curb. No, I take it back. It's actually episode one, two, three, four, five, the fifth.
01:23:06
Speaker
Try and guess the episodes, the top five. One with John Peters. Yes, number three. Okay. It's going to be hard. Yeah. I knew he would be in one of them.
01:23:28
Speaker
How about we did two episodes of John Peters. The second one's not even in the top 10. Oh, that's hard to believe. He's the only one. I won't say that. Narrow it down. Is it? Do they have guests? The top two. The one of them does. Is that while Willie? While Willie is number two.
01:23:48
Speaker
Now that episode went to total shit. The audio was horrible. So I don't know if maybe people just downloaded it and didn't listen or they stuck it out. Um, I think that means that we got to try and get while Willie out here. Yeah. Yeah. So number one is son's guest. Um, let's see. I mean, if you think about it logically, it's an easy one. Oh,
01:24:17
Speaker
Our first episode? Yeah. Because I guess that's where people start. Yeah. And then number four is episode six. Improving yourself. That sounds like a dead wood. Number six, episode 30, Cult of Festool. Number seven, episode 26 with Instagram's most handsome carpenter, Tim Beardsley. Oh, tree carpentry. Number eight,
01:24:44
Speaker
episode 21 shop upgrades number nine take a guess Manny episode 11 with our good friend Manny feed the hunger and number 10 episode 14 not my job I like that title yeah I mean we run into that only ran into that today
01:25:06
Speaker
Who were you on the phone with? And they were like, you're calling around the police station to get my passport. Yeah. I'm like, they transfer me to you. And you don't know what the hell I'm talking about. No, not my job, man. Yeah. Yeah. Dick.
01:25:26
Speaker
Creeping up on 35,000 downloads. Yeah. Yeah. We had our moments with Oliver. We thought we were building something. Yeah. Then they sent us a bad machine. Yep. And then they kind of screwed us. They definitely screwed us.
01:25:44
Speaker
So there you go. What's next? It's our last and final moment from our buddy Keith Blackthorn concepts on Instagram. It's the podcast as a whole. You keep us all honest about the craft and got me to try and level up.
01:26:01
Speaker
Thank you. I think that's what we would hope that people get out of it. We try and be honest. And I think it's kept us honest also. Oh, yeah. Because we're always questioning sort of the way we're more, I think we're more open to other ideas now that we've done the podcast. Yeah. Like things in the past where we would have said,
01:26:28
Speaker
melon, we're not doing a melamine job. Well, now we think, well, it's, it's had us examine, um, I think the whole, the company as a whole, right? Like what we can and can't do and, and what it, it means for us.
01:26:42
Speaker
Right. We're not putting a melamine dining room table in somebody's house. No. We're working in a commercial setting where it's the appropriate material. Right. And, um, we still go to his, you know, great lengths to make it as, as nice as possible, make it as durable as possible. Yeah. We're not hanging up the aprons to work with melamine full time, but is it, is it wrong for us to take that job? No, it's, it's another job. So.
01:27:11
Speaker
Yeah. And we look forward to maybe getting some more commercial work. Yeah. It's a different skill set, different mindset. Yeah. So meeting the keys was one of the highlights of
01:27:28
Speaker
this whole podcast thing.
Community Engagement and Future Plans
01:27:30
Speaker
Yeah. He's helped us out and work wise with the CNC stuff. Yeah. And he's a very cool guy. Yeah. And check out Keith's podcast, Working Hands podcast. Mm hmm. It's good. So that pretty much does that wraps up. Yeah. A whole year's worth of podcasts. Wow.
01:27:51
Speaker
season one in the books yeah we'll be coming at you with a slightly altered format in two weeks yeah we gotta we need a week to get ourselves together are we gonna still do beer the week
01:28:07
Speaker
we're going to have to figure out the logistics of that. Yeah. With the new, uh, yeah, we might want to give that a rest and yeah, you know, bring it back as a, uh, you know, like, like we brought back gripe of the week. Yeah. You know, it's like a highlight. Maybe we'll do coffee. Yeah. I've got the techno warm up. Yeah. And a tease in the winter months. Yeah. I know vis would be all about the coffee. Yeah.
01:28:37
Speaker
I know. Oh man, what are we going to do when we go up to Maker's camp? What for coffee? Yeah. Well, I got that little kettle that I had in Vegas. I'm going to have to bring that. I mean, is there going to be electricity in these cabins? Yeah, I think there's there's electricity. Yeah. And they, they get breakfast every morning. Yeah, I know. But I don't want to like, I don't want their coffee. Well, who knows? It might be good. All right.
01:29:04
Speaker
You know, I got to take precautions. They have all the milk you can drink. Yeah. I'm going to have with the wife, not hovering over me. I'm going to have milk and cereal for lunch and breakfast. No lunch is provided. Oh, what are we going to do for lunch? Yeah. I don't know. I was confused about that. They're like breakfast and dinner are served daily. I'm like, what about lunch? Oh, yeah. We're going to have to bring groceries in or something or snacks. I don't know. Had to put it in a bear box.
01:29:34
Speaker
Oh, yeah, we got to find out there's refrigerators. I think you can rent one. Rent the refrigerator? We'll just bring a fucking fridge. Yeah, bring the one in the shop. Hand truck will wheel it into the room. What are they going to say? Take that fridge, take it home? Yeah, let's remember that. That's a good idea. We're going to bring the fridge. Crock pot. Coffee. We're going to bring coffee pot, aren't we? I could bring the techno warm.
01:29:59
Speaker
I mean, we're gonna have a whole Sprinter van. Yeah. Fill that baby up. I don't see why not. Put a couch in the back. Bring these two chairs and we'll do our podcast. That's not a bad idea. We could do the podcast from the van. Got no power though. We got the battery light. We can
01:30:23
Speaker
That's true. Anyway, we're not going to inundate you guys with all these ideas. We've got to thank the Gold Tier patrons and give the thoughts on the beer of the week. Jerry Green and David Murphy, Manny Sirianni, Dustin Fair, Adam Pothass, David Shoemaker, Colin Lye, Keith Drennan, and Corey Ty. Thanks guys. Oh, thank you very much for keeping this thing running.
01:30:44
Speaker
Yeah. And, uh, before we do beer of the week, uh, it's been a year. If you listen to the podcast, please leave a review on Apple podcasts. I don't know if you can leave them on Spotify somewhere, you know, throw us a bone and it'll help out the podcast. Um, if you like it and if you don't like it, if you have a critique, yeah, leave that there too. Yeah. Yeah. Feedback. It's all good. Send us your questions. Uh, you know, all that good stuff.
01:31:14
Speaker
All right. Thoughts on the beer? Ah, it was OK. It was weighty. It's too much for me. Too much bourbon. That's what I would say, yeah. It was half a glass. It's exactly what I was expecting. It was enough. Yeah.
01:31:31
Speaker
That's why I haven't opened it because I knew I mean that was the one that I had left over. I brewed five gallons. It was just I knew it was going to be exactly like that. And it's just too much. It's too much bourbon for me and not enough anything else. Like it smells like like bourbon.
01:31:54
Speaker
Yeah, I drank. I would probably like in a little while could have another half a glass or something like that. But to drink to drink a whole thing. Yeah, that's too much. Yeah. Yeah, there's just straight bourbon in there. Well, anyway, that's it. Yeah, we'll see the patrons in the Patreon after show. If you're interested in that. Click the link in the description. You can find out how you can join the Patreon.
01:32:22
Speaker
Yeah, we'll see in two weeks. If you're looking for an episode and we're not around, try catching up on one of your favorites. Yeah. We're going to listen to Keith's podcast. Yeah. Yeah. Working Hands podcast. Working Hands. Well, that's it. We'll see you in two weeks.
01:32:57
Speaker
Ain't no shame, but there's been a chain