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Episode 6: Da Bears vs the Bucs
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The boys vent their frustrations and recap what ended up being another disappointing loss for the Chicago Bears. They also give the NFC North a vibe check and preview what is sure to be a tough week three matchup versus the Kansas City Chiefs. Chin up and Bear Down!
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Introduction and Overview
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello, and welcome back to the Bear Claw podcast. I am your host, Omar Delgado, with me, Zachary Stein, also Omar Stein, and our permanent special guest now, Isaac Turjan, who's going to be helping us out around here from that one. Welcome back. It's episode six. This past week, week two, we played the Bears, or will the Bears play the Bucks?
00:00:25
Speaker
No, I think you had that right. We played ourselves. We did also play ourselves, but we played the Bucks. So this episode, we're just going to be going over that, do a little recap. We're going to introduce a new segment later in the episode called the NFC North vibe check, where we're just going to go through NFC North and see what happened in week two. And then we're going to cap it off with a preview of week three, where the Bears are going to be going against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Frustration with Bears' Performance
00:00:50
Speaker
But before we get that far, let's start at week two of Bears versus Bucks. How we feeling, Stein?
00:01:00
Speaker
How are you feeling? You really want to start with me? You want to know how I'm feeling? Yeah, let's set the tone here. What the shit did we watch in week two? It was like almost no changes were made. Almost none. Almost none. It was the same goddamn number of screenplays. It was the same bullshit, like short pass shit.
00:01:20
Speaker
It was literally no legs whatsoever from fields. It's like it's like we basically took the one thing that he was good at and removed it. And when you make him one dimensional, all of a sudden the offense is one dimensional. And it was fucking it was embarrassing to watch. It was absolutely embarrassing to watch.
00:01:41
Speaker
We've neutered fields, it feels like, these first two games. Yeah. He literally has been, like, coached out of what he's good at. Yeah. That's it. Mm-hmm. He's been coached out of what he's good at, and now he's spending way too long in the pocket. I've got stats to go through that to prove it. I'm excited to get into it. All right. So before we get to Justin Fields and the offense, let me, well, actually, I feel pretty similar. I'm pretty frustrated.
00:02:11
Speaker
But I'm also a little, I don't know, man. I just feel like a little apathetic, but then also kind of like, fuck it. You know, this is what it is to be a Bears fan, I guess. Like, this is just where we're at, you know? So, but definitely with you on the frustration, especially when I was watching the game, I was having a...
00:02:29
Speaker
I was not happy.
00:02:48
Speaker
Yeah, where they just people reliving the same in psychology. There's like an actual effect that that people have of that feeling of being stuck in a riot and just having no hope. Yeah. Having like this cyclical bullshit all the time. He was like, and it literally is what it is to be a Bears fan.
00:03:11
Speaker
And it's I'm like, yeah, it's week two. But when I said week one going into week two, I'm like, just any any betterment, any any betterment whatsoever on the offensive side of the ball. And there were like a couple of little things here and there. But yeah, that's what I was going to say. I feel disconcerned. No, no. Yeah, I would say there was improvement, but it was very minimal. So.
00:03:36
Speaker
I feel you. Yeah, man, it just does. I was telling Isaac here before we started, just this all feels familiar. So let's dig into the defense a little bit. I think the first thing to know about the defense this week was that Allen Williams was not around to make the plays. So even if this was the one making the defensive play calls. How do you feel like that affected the defense? Do you feel like that we did a little better, or how do you think?
00:04:03
Speaker
No, I mean, we gave up what, 400 and how many yards to, you know, a Baker Mayfield led offense. Now I said coming into this, I don't think that Baker Mayfield deserves the shit that he's gotten throughout his career thus far. But I mean, I think someone else had mentioned that we made him look like a pro bowl quarterback. He had one of the best games of his career against us last week.
00:04:25
Speaker
Yeah, it's the first time that he threw for over 300 yards in like two and a half years or something like that. I mean, it now I will say considering how much yardage they gained and the score we limited them to like we did a halfway decent job on that, but.
Defensive Struggles and Injuries
00:04:45
Speaker
When your defense is on the field, the majority of the game, and I mean large majority of the game. Yeah. And in Florida with 90% humidity and it's fucking hot, they had to have been dead too. So do I think that him making the calls helped? I'm not sure. I don't think so. Yeah.
00:05:03
Speaker
I mean, I don't know how much time he had of like his design. I don't know how much of that was his design, which is where he was good at when he was with like, Indy was like designing it, right? He was the coordinator. Whereas here he had to sort of step in to call, whereas the game plan had already been built out. So and we still don't know to what degree he's being involved with that. So I am interested to see if that continues.
00:05:29
Speaker
I think that we could see the defense tightening up a bit in the future. It also didn't help that what five, I think three of the five secondary starters were out by like the second quarter or something like that. Yep. And considering that, like a couple of the guys that stepped in. They definitely stepped up. Yeah, we gave up tons of yards, but again, limiting that score to.
00:05:57
Speaker
a couple of touchdowns and field goals for the most part. It was just like for how long they were out there. I'm like, I've been in that situation before of like feeling like you just never leave the field. Yeah, you just always on. It's exhausting. It gets to a point. It's frustrating, too. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure they would be yelling at the fucking offense on the sidelines, especially when you're not getting takeaways. You're not.
00:06:20
Speaker
creating fumbles. There's no interceptions. Like you're not getting many tackles for losses. It's literally just out there like surviving. So. Yeah, I agree with you. And I think it was really hard to assess how much of an effect Ibifluz had on this on this game defensively, just because it was I mean, our secondary was all hurt. And I mean, like you said, I think overall, we did a pretty good job. And I think our defense kept us in the game, even though they did
00:06:49
Speaker
They did have a lot of passing yards, and Baker midfield had a really good game against us. But it's just hard to tell. And we'll see if they keep going with it. Because the whole situation with Allen Williams right now is very like, I mean, there's no specifics in it. It's just he's always out for personal reasons. He's not around. So there's always speculation of like,
00:07:09
Speaker
You know, is, are they telling him that did not come? Is it something going on? You know, like with the Nate Davis situation where Nate Davis had, you know, family issues that he hasn't been able to be as involved as we would like him to be in practices and stuff, but they were just writing it off as a personal issue. It's like, you know, we don't know. And so it's, it's hard to tell right now. Most passing yards by Mayfield since September 12th of 21. So yeah, in two years, almost to the day, right? Jeez.
00:07:35
Speaker
So with that, I think we can go into digging a little more into what went right and what went wrong for the Bears defense on Sunday. I think we can start with what went wrong. For starters, we were really bad on third downs. That was something that really stuck out to me, was just that we could not get the stop on third down. And then part of that was Baker Mayfield carving us up, carving up our super injured secondary. We didn't get any sacks.
00:08:04
Speaker
And, uh, there was more pressure on, you know, there's more pressure applied, like more, um, then the week before, before, but hardly, hardly by much. Yeah. Again, minimal improvement, uh, and some missed opportunities. Uh, Kyla Gordon almost had a interception, but just couldn't bring it, bring the ball in. And, uh, yeah, no, no takeaways, no interceptions, no sacks, bad tackling, which is part of the reason for no sacks. Cause I think our, uh, our edge got,
00:08:34
Speaker
guys got in there a couple times and just weren't able to bring Baker Mayfield down for some reason. Actually, I know the reason. It was because they were tackling bad. But yeah, something else that went wrong is our secondary. We had a lot of injuries. Secondary was just not great. We were already without Kyler Gordon for the entire game. I think we don't know for sure how many games he's going to miss, but it's going to be at least four. He's got to have Sergio on his hand that he hurt last week. Or not last week, but the week before against the Packers. And then Jaquan Brisker had to come out.
00:09:04
Speaker
Um, in the first half, they said because of illness, I'm not sure if that was, you know, heat related or maybe some sort of flu that he's got. But, uh, then he was able to come back in the second half, which was nice. And then, um, Eddie Jackson went out the whole second half and there's no update on him. I think they're saying, yep. And they're saying by Wednesday, we might know what's going on with him, but, uh, so yeah, I mean, anything else that you can think of that went wrong defensively.
00:09:33
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I, I felt like, you know, the week prior, we, one of the things that we said went right was our rush defense. And this week I, I mean it, I felt like Rashad white was able to take it.
00:09:49
Speaker
like right up the guard so many freaking times. It's like I think you have like seven attempts. That's where one of the touchdowns came off of. He just it was like there was no stopping at that point. And they made it into that midfield, into the linebacker unit so many times. Yeah. You know, it.
00:10:14
Speaker
Again, looking back, like, comparatively, they still were able to keep things from happening. I feel like this game could have been much, much worse if you don't look at the score and you just looked at total yardage and the stats and like the like receptions, the rushing. I would have expected this to be way worse than it was.
00:10:35
Speaker
But yeah, that's that was very things I noticed was like, God damn, they are getting they're just getting beat. Yeah, everywhere. It was very bad, but don't break for the defense, I think. Yeah. But I mean, what can you do?
00:10:51
Speaker
We're just getting, like you said, just getting beat everywhere and we can go into what went right now, I guess, even though it wasn't much. Uh, like we mentioned before, we had more pressure on the quarterback than last week and, uh, we were able to stop them in the red zone. We were able to keep them to the field goals, which has kept us in a game. So that went right for us. Which honestly, that is like the traditional Bill Belichick take, right? Yeah. It's like, fuck it. Give him a ton of yards, but.
00:11:16
Speaker
you sure shit aren't going to score a touchdown. That's kind of that. I'm going to let them march down the field, but I'm also going to make sure that I'm holding them to three points. I think that the defense definitely held there obviously, but God damn, that time of possession was wild. It was crazy.
00:11:33
Speaker
Uh, at that point you're just like literally in survival mode, but yeah, they're like short in the field. That way it's a little slightly easier to defend, especially with when, again, when three of your starting five in the secondary are gone, it's like, yeah, they, that's a little easier to work than like man coverage one-on-one, um, or even trying to attempt to zone with too much field behind you. Like, you know, it's a little bit easier to pull that off in the red zone defense. Yep.
00:12:02
Speaker
So I think that's all that went right. Oh, yeah, I would like to add in there. I think I think seeing some of the guys that came in to replace the people are starting to get stepped up. Yes, things were given up, but. Touchdowns should have been much, much more. Yeah. And I think like how you're saying to with so much getting to the middle, like to the linebackers, I think the linebackers did a good job of holding their own for the most part, too. They had some halfway decent open field tackles. Their open field stuff looked a little bit better, I thought.
00:12:31
Speaker
Yeah. Overall, the tackling was just a little a little rough. It's just another one of those. I think I think I saw that across the league again. Week one, I had made that comment. Like a lot of the games I watch, I was like, God damn, these open field tackle, they're like, I know people, football players that do it better than this, you know. Yeah. All right. Any final thoughts on the defense? I know. Isaac, you got anything to throw in on that? Yeah. I'd be interested to see if did you watch the game?
00:13:01
Speaker
Other than just some tables watching back. I didn't get to watch the whole game No, but yeah, I just know you guys suffer a lot of injuries. So I mean that it's kind of hard to engage it when that happens, you know All right, well onto the offense So we're gonna do the same thing with the offense what went right and what went wrong starting off with what
Offensive and Special Teams Notes
00:13:23
Speaker
went wrong No, I think we should start off with what went right on this one. Yeah, you want to? Sure do so what went right?
00:13:31
Speaker
what we're right
00:13:48
Speaker
solid like he locked in on the edge and he he he was he laid a couple guys out absolutely um granted he had a couple issues right like one on one on that uh that screenplay where he started the block too soon and it was another good block like he made good contact with the with the corner but uh it was just just a like a hair too early you have to wait until until that takes place until that that
00:14:14
Speaker
that play is able to evolve to show it the screen that the guy, the receiver has the ball. And he made that contact just too soon and got called for that offensive pass interference. Yeah. The interception too, I think was a little bit on him. Oh, that last one. Oh yeah. He had it. Absolutely. He, he had the ball and you could tell that he, and then he just like stood there like five
00:14:42
Speaker
Yeah. And when then he also stood there as the guy's like running away and he's like, Oh shit. I don't think he realized exactly. I'm like, that's one of the big things of like, no, I get it. Cause he literally went hard the whole game finally. Yeah. And then like he gets to that point and then it's like, God damn it. And then he was like, Oh shit. Like, Oh, I got to go now. I can't. So you got to play through the whistle, man. Yeah. You got to play through the whistle. That's, but ultimately I thought that we definitely saw. Okay.
00:15:10
Speaker
a highlight of how good he can be. And I'm like, now do that for me every time.
00:15:19
Speaker
drop the frustration and just accept the fact that like, dude, it's going to be a little bit frustrating because you hadn't been clicking with the offense since we picked you up. This is your first year in this system as well. I'm like, and you weren't really given your role. I'm glad that you're starting to give it your all now, but also accept the fact that it's still not going to be perfect.
00:15:44
Speaker
Yeah, and it's not going to turn everything around. You only, you know, you giving all you got all of a sudden isn't going to just, you know, turn this team around. What else went right? Darnell Wright. I looked like he had zero pressures and true pass sets, so no one got past him in passing plays. He locked in on on design pass plays. He the offensive line.
00:16:08
Speaker
Uh, as a whole all served 100% of the snaps as a unit. Good. Um, with the exception of, uh, the center only because of like field goal stuff. Yeah. Right. They bring a long snapper and like, so he was at like 98% of the plays and then everyone else was at 100% of the plays for the game. So yeah, that's huge. That's a huge thing. Yeah. That we at least had a consistent line. How did, how did you feel they did protecting fields? I feel like I thought I had, I feel like they did a little better job.
00:16:38
Speaker
I think they did a really good job. And I think at this point it didn't come down to the pocket collapsing all the time. That excuse wasn't there. Now the pocket collapsed. Not always.
00:16:51
Speaker
The pocket would collapse, but they gave him much more time than they did week one. And so the pocket was collapsing when it should be collapsing. You know what I mean? Like even longer than that. So as opposed to like almost immediately. So like, you know, they took that portion of the equation out.
00:17:10
Speaker
And then we were, I guess we'll get into what went wrong in a minute here. But as a unit, I thought that they performed much better, which is part of my major frustration with the what went wrong pieces. We got DJ more and more involved, too. So that was good. He got more than two targets. Yeah, more than two. So again, minimal improvement. But I guess improvement, that's all we can ask for. Fucking Bears fans.
00:17:39
Speaker
uh special teams special teams is pretty special teams performed well i think yeah we had that blocked uh punt right or was it yeah blocked punt that was pretty good santos had the 52 yarder you know he he uh love kairo santos i mean he's he's doing really well the last time he hit a 52 yarder was when he played for the box apparently oh nice did it too yeah looks like it was a blocked field goal
00:18:04
Speaker
Field goal? Black field goal, yeah, that's what it was. Nice. Special teams as a whole, they had decent placement with the punts. They had halfway decent returns. They are a pretty good special teams unit. Yeah.
00:18:24
Speaker
as they should be. That's kind of one of the things that we tend to be good at. That was like the few times I was like, hey, there's an opportunity we might score and it's not going to be the opportunity for ourselves. We get to take away from special teachers each year and run back.
00:18:43
Speaker
Yep. All right. Anything else? Not that I can think of. Um, I mean, Justin Fields had a few dimes as far as what went right. He had some, there was a few plays where he, you know, Oh, he had a couple of great placements. Yep. He had a couple of really great placements, a couple out of the, Hey, how many, how many total did he hit? 19, 16.
00:19:07
Speaker
Completions completions 16 and I think like 16 on 29. I think like two or three of them were spot the fuck on yeah One of them was real pretty it was like super tight window, too Yeah, and like the touchdown to Claypool, you know, that was a throw it was a
00:19:26
Speaker
And that was that was a goddamn rocket man. Yeah, like watching it was like whole shit Okay, and then clay people clay pool turns around and just chucks the ball into the wall. It's just like I was like I Feel like you know, it's like that's what happens when you put an effort you learn that like exactly See what happens when we fucking try? Yeah All right
00:19:49
Speaker
into the longer part of the podcast the longest part of the long yeah probably the longest part of the podcast offensively what went wrong
00:20:04
Speaker
Play calling wasn't great. I think that was another thing you messaged. Uh, wasn't great. Play calling wasn't great. I saw better play calling at the high school football game. I was at two nights before. Like this is, it was absolutely pathetic. It looked, nothing changed. Nothing changed. It was the same fucking thing as the week before. It was like, what are you doing? It was worse than the week before. It was absolutely worse than the week before because there were even less designed run plays for fields. Yeah.
00:20:34
Speaker
less run plays in general which I would consider to be at this point one of our strong points and we're just not utilizing it not just because of fields but I mean you got fucking Khalil Herbert's a great runner and Roshan Johnson we've been singing his praises you know Herbert showed the power runner that he I mean he would he was driving eight yards here and there nine yards on the carry like
00:20:55
Speaker
and with initial contact at the three or four. He's dragging people with him because he was just like, fuck it. I don't care. I'm just going to keep chugging. Yeah, which I love that about him.
00:21:06
Speaker
was a limited on carries like he had a couple really good ones and then he only was targeted what twice on passes like pass wise I'm not sure how many times he got targeted but or maybe he only had two receptions I feel like he went two for two but it might I just feel like why you're not utilizing your weapons yeah
00:21:28
Speaker
And at a certain point, if you like, if you can't pass the ball and you also can't spread the field out enough by having fields, use his fucking legs and put defenses on their heels and make them second guess what they're going to be doing. Like.
00:21:43
Speaker
This is not a hard offense to scheme against them. No. You have taken away the strength that we've got. And it's like, well... And for no reason. No, no reason. Unless there's something we don't know. Unless there's something they're not saying. I can't imagine what we don't know that would keep them from, or that has them calling plays and scheming like this. I don't know what is going on. I don't know if they're seeing something in practice, you know, fields wise, you know, that they're just like,
00:22:10
Speaker
I don't know if his legs are just fucking gone all of a sudden. I don't know. Although, fun fact, he was the fastest runner on the Bears team in that game. Yeah. At like 19.9 miles an hour at one point. So he hasn't lost his speed. We know that. But I think that and I think that was him actually like sprinting to the side. Like it was where they tracked that speed. Yeah. So just to put the final
00:22:40
Speaker
No, let's hit on that play calling man. No, I wanted to just that's why is on running the ball just to put tie that up Sure, Herbert. We only ran the ball 16 times Herbert had seven Roshan Johnson had four carries and then Justin Fields ran for four and I'm sure You know at least three of those if not all of those were runs that weren't designed So not great running the ball Which is something I think if we're gonna have success with something we need to do. I mean that's part of Question his that's his strength. That's just a field strength is his legs
00:23:10
Speaker
That makes you question, are those 16 total carries? Were all of those called run plays? Is that what we're saying? I think it was rushing. When I looked at the stat, I was looking at rushing. So just rushing as a whole. Yeah.
00:23:31
Speaker
And missing one because it was Vayless Jones. I didn't put him in there because he gives a fuck. It was for negative yardage anyway. Fuck him. Pussy. All right. So you wanted to go into the coaching and play calling and dig a little more into that again.
00:23:46
Speaker
Yeah, well, I mean, I think one of the points that we have here is, you know, the screenplay was called three times in a row before fields through that interception. Right. And it was like, I remember like after two in a row, I was like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. And then I literally looked at Rachel and went, they're going to do it again. Yeah. And when they did, I was like.
00:24:05
Speaker
They fucking did. Yo, if I can make that call, if I know what the fuck you're doing, imagine what a professional coordinator. Oh, we don't have to imagine. Did you live on David after the game? Did you hear what he said? No, I didn't. I mean, basically, I literally did not watch. I couldn't. Essentially, you're so pissed. So Lavante David, you know, a defender for the box like came out after the game was like, yeah, we fucking knew it was coming. Like everybody knew we saw the formation. We knew we were ready for it.
00:24:32
Speaker
We don't have to imagine. It happened. It is happening. Our fucking offense is easier to read than a fucking picture book. It's insane. I don't know.
00:24:46
Speaker
I don't, I don't know. I just, uh, and there were tons of
Addressing Offensive Problems
00:24:50
Speaker
screams. Do we have any idea on like the total number of screenplays that we're calling? I just remember thinking like, I think in the second quarter at one point, I went, here we go again. I feel like I had already seen a handful by that point. I was like, God.
00:25:05
Speaker
Yeah, just yes. Yeah, what do you I mean, what do we do at this point? What do you think we do to is it get see is it fucking like what do we don't know how we how do we fix this? Is it going to be fixed? What do you think? I just feel like I'm at a loss. I don't know. I really don't know.
00:25:27
Speaker
I don't think the Bears Bears haven't been the kind of organization to cut someone Midseason let alone two two games in We're in the second game gets he has not changed anything like are we just stuck like this the whole season Justin Fields gonna have to just audible and fucking throw the playbook out the window or like what the fuck are you gonna do first off? I don't think he's gonna do that
00:25:50
Speaker
You know, he's not in a position. He's not he's not seasoned enough. That is immediately like I think I don't think he has the mindset for that. Right. I think if things don't change, you're going to see some shit go sour real quick, especially with, you know, you have Claypool in there, you've got more in there, more like both of whom are both of them are are.
00:26:13
Speaker
Talent alone are absolutely one twos and are going to get pissed off. There's going to be frustration there. I think more is already expressing frustration. He's already getting angry. Absolutely. He should. Absolutely. Eight passes behind the line of scrimmage. Great. Eight passes. It's a recipe for success, man. That is.
00:26:42
Speaker
How do we fix it? Honestly, I think that the team needs to go back and scrap whatever the fuck they thought they were doing. The one thing that they were doing right was when they leaned into fields of strength. They leaned into that.
00:26:56
Speaker
Now they have a technically better offensive line than last year, technically. We do have that slight inconsistency with Nate Davis being out for personal reasons, but the line is a whole unit in a single game, even with his substitution performed together at least. And even with that substitution, again, I think they held up fairly decently.
00:27:20
Speaker
They gave him all the time that he needed for the most part. They gave him much more time than the previous week for sure. Oh, and that was the stat I wanted to look at here. So if you look at the defensive pass rushes for both teams, there is a metric that's used from next gen stats that looks at average separation from the quarterback. This is specifically looking at, it's measuring
00:27:47
Speaker
only on pass plays. So when defenders are rushing the quarterback and so it's only measuring those types of plays. And it measures from the moment that the ball releases from the quarterback's hand, how far away is each rushing defender? OK. And so if you the league average is four point five, six yards away, so about four and a half yards away from the quarterback. Right. The Bears defensive line
00:28:18
Speaker
Uh, Justin Jones is at 3.24 was his average, which is good. That's above that far above average. Uh, Walker was at 3.98. Uh, and Gokui was at 4.13 and green was at 4.54. So all of them were above the league average. A couple of them well above the league average.
00:28:42
Speaker
And yet still were not able to get any sacks create any fumble like any takeaways nothing disruption No disruption, but they didn't they were able to apply a little bit better pressure in this game than the previous one But if you were to look at the Bucks for front for The league averaging in is about four and a half yards
00:29:07
Speaker
4.19 is the worst one. 3.68, 3.31, and 2.7. The reason behind that is because the O line was holding them longer to the point where Fields was holding the ball for so goddamn long that by the time he released, that's like everyone is already closing in. That offensive line
00:29:34
Speaker
really went out and fought to buy him more time than the prior week and he still was unable to deliver.
00:29:42
Speaker
He also was unable to follow his instincts and get the fuck out, you know, and extend a play. He doesn't even need to run necessarily. Just get the fuck out of the pocket and extend the play. Staying in the pocket, resetting in the pocket. It was nice to see him try it a couple of times, but at a certain point, God damn it, coach, like let him do what he does. Yeah. Because otherwise there's no point in trading for Claypool. There's no point in going out and getting more because they're fucking useless at that point.
00:30:12
Speaker
They are their dummies out in the field. Yep. Like, you know, that we're not going to run. It's easier to protect against the pass and to give just a little bit extra pressure on your quarterback because you know, he's going to panic or not be able to make a fucking decision. So that's how you fix it. Let him do his thing. Yeah. Unleash him. Give him his balls back. Yeah.
00:30:40
Speaker
I don't have much more to add to that, honestly, because I just I can't agree more. I just think they're trying to make him into someone he's not. And someone that he isn't maybe. Yeah. The Ravens leaned in, right? I mean, let's face it, Lamar Jackson is not necessarily a traditional pocket passer either. No, I think he's he can be halfway decent at it, but
00:31:10
Speaker
That's not his strength. His strength is he can extend plays. And he can make shit happen. Let the kid do what he does. And build a system that is to his strengths. Otherwise, do him a favor and send him somewhere that will. Yeah. Yeah, because you can just tell he's second guessing himself. And I don't know how, I mean, only he can tell you how much of it is
00:31:38
Speaker
how much of it is just not being used to having a pocket to pass and how much of it. But I think it's more so just it's been coached into him to second guess himself where his instincts were to run and extend the play and the coaches have told him stay in the pocket.
00:31:54
Speaker
You know, the one thing I will say to Justin Fields, because, you know, he's an avid listener of our podcast, obviously, of course, is hold your head up. I like, please, love God, hold your head up because like, boy, you're doing exactly what you were told to. Yeah, I don't have. Yeah, I don't hold anything against him at this point. Like he's he's going out there. He's trying to lead his team. He's trying to do it under like within the parameters that these coaches have put him in. God damn it. Get rid of the box. Yeah. Let him out of the box. Stop putting him in this. Try trying to make him what he's not.
00:32:24
Speaker
Lean into his strengths. Go with what works and forget the rest, right? Yeah. And that's it. My Justin Fields Apologist streak continues and, you know, maybe this is some, some fucking crazy ass glaze in, but I just think it shows too. Like, I mean, he's trusting his coaches and his coaches are fucking him.
00:32:45
Speaker
That's why I would say it's just I don't think that you should even be a Justin Fields apologist or label yourself as that at this point. I'm not apologizing for him because he's doing his job. He's doing what you get paid to do. And what he's being told is listen to the coaches and try to fit into this particular offensive scheme. It doesn't fit him. It's fucking garbage. Yeah, it is ridiculous and pathetic. And like he's getting dicked. This is exactly why I felt so bad when we for him. Yeah.
00:33:19
Speaker
I don't know. Yeah, I might throw a clip in here because I was watching Jalen Johnson. They were asking him what he thought about the whole field situation. And he just pretty much had the same thing to say that we've been saying that he just he doesn't believe that this is Justin Fields best and that he thinks that, you know, mentally he must be he's got to be in a funk or in a weird spot or something. And it sounds like they've had some communication and he's just saying about how he's told Justin like, hey,
00:33:36
Speaker
This is it. This is the reason.
00:33:46
Speaker
You know, just get back to doing your thing. Get back to being yourself. Like do what you got to do. And I mean, couldn't say better myself. I don't know. I just, I don't know. This just feels really familiar. I feel like I was screaming the same thing, you know, at the end of Mr. Biskey's time with us when I was just like, why are we not playing to his strengths?
00:34:11
Speaker
Why are we trying to turn him into a down the field passer when he is not that? Yeah. And that was Mitch specific. Because I think Justin Fields has the ability to pass down the field, I think, better than Mitch does. Oh, he does. Yeah. His arm is better. Yeah. I don't say that to say that Justin Fields is a bad down the field passer. I just don't think that is his bread and butter. And I don't understand why we're trying to make it that.
00:34:34
Speaker
That's the issue is you can't he can't pass down the goddamn field when everybody's able to Play it with a half a decent cushion because they know that he's not running the ball. Yeah run the fucking Yeah Make the defense actually try. I don't know make him guess a little bit make them say there's no guessing at all Yeah, there's no guessing they know exactly what's coming and they've said as much so You got anything left on Justin Fields or the offense
00:35:04
Speaker
As far as what went wrong? No, I mean, just final thought. We've kind of hit everything on this. At least everything that I had noted down. Final thoughts. I hope to God that they keep fighting. Yeah. You know, I hope they keep fighting for it. And I hope that a certain point happens where. Where the team, I would love to see this. I would love to man, just because drama is good TV, right? Where it hits a point where it's field sets. Fuck it. And he extends a play.
00:35:34
Speaker
And someone, a coordinator, a coach, whoever tries giving him shit on the sideline about it. And you see the offensive line or you see Claypool or you see more step in and be like, fuck you. He's doing what we should be doing. You know, like we've got his back. And if he's not out there, then I'm not. You know what I mean? Like, I would love to see just like shit go down and feel to be like, this is my team. You brought me here to do this. I'm going to do this. I gave it a shot for your way. It is not working like.
00:36:04
Speaker
I don't know. At this point, I'd rather just be on Hard Knocks and get some entertainment out of it because right now I'm just getting pissed off all the time. Hard Knocks would have at least given some exposure so we'd have some idea of what's going on in the locker room and what these guys are doing in practice and stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if we'd have more answers and get a deeper look into what the fuck is going on.
00:36:27
Speaker
I just, I don't know. I don't think this is all on Justin Fields. And I was, I've seen the, you know, people were dissecting the tape and stuff like that. Yes. There's some things that he's missing, but I just feel like too, like people keep bringing up the thing. It's his third year. It's his third year. It's his third year. He has not had a normal, his first two years were not normal. And he hasn't been, I mean, again, like how much have we actually developed him? We haven't. It's just, I think the real question is how much we haven't developed him and people are like, why is he still making these same mistakes?
00:36:57
Speaker
They're being coached into him, I think, honestly. The mistakes are being coached into him and he's not being developed and they're not letting him play to his strengths. I think it's less about things being coached into him and more about things being coached out of them. Sure. Yeah, yeah. You know, and that's.
00:37:14
Speaker
Again, it's, they, it's just, I go bears are not a quarterback development organization. They never have been. And until some, they get that through the fucking heads. They never will be. Yeah. Like if you want to become that cool, maybe go out and get some of the best people who are good at that and make spend money there instead. Yeah.
00:37:31
Speaker
You know, spend money on on the right staff and be like, look, we need to lock you in for like five years because we're going to go get someone. You tell us who will go get it. We'll go get them. And you were going to develop them like that. Like, yeah, I think the organization hasn't figured that out yet. And I think the fans haven't figured that out yet either because I see a lot of talk online of like.
00:37:52
Speaker
fucking tank the season, fucking all Caleb Williams can't wait. Oh, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, you guys want to just fucking do this again? If you've not learned anything, you guys just want to start from scratch again. We're just going to be in the same fucking boat three years from now. I don't know. I was going to say, it's been a frustrating week. It's only fucking Monday. It feels like it's been forever, man. And part of it, you know, maybe the week will go by quicker because it won't be so steeped in bears and bear stuff.
00:38:21
Speaker
getting ready for the pod, but I don't know, it's just felt like up and down. I think fans are frustrated. I think the organization, I think players, I think everyone's, everyone that's a part of the Bears organization or a fan is frustrated right now and understandably, but what can you do? I think people were kind of expecting quarterbacks to be good in their second year.
00:38:45
Speaker
But then the Josh Allen and the Jill and Hertz trajectory started where it was like, oh, you're three, they get this weapon and they start taking off. I think people are just kind of boxing Justin Fields in to be like, oh, you're three, you need to show all these improvements, which I mean, you want to see people different than last year, but also you can't box them in to fit other people's trajectories. Yeah, you heard that comparison last season. I feel like I heard that so much.
00:39:15
Speaker
Well, if you're going to do that, you have to do apples to apples. You got, you know, this, you know, this offensive weapon and then he took his leap, you know, Justin Fields is on that same trajectory. He's going to have that same year three leap, you know. But what are you saying? You got to make it. You have to do apples apples. This is not apples apples, because if you're going to do that, you have to look at your one versus your one versus your one and your two versus your two versus your two. And the fact of the matter is Justin Fields, your one and your two were wildly different from Hertz's and Allen's. Yeah. And and I mean,
00:39:44
Speaker
and like my homes even like wildly different than years one and two in that the wild inconsistency in the front line for both of those seasons the change in organization like for throughout the seasons the lack of weaponry at all like in the first two seasons I mean it's
00:40:06
Speaker
Yeah, that's not, that's not the case. You know, like he's still in comparison in either direction, I think in his favor or in his detriment. I don't think because it's not, it's not the same. I think at that point, it's a null point. Yeah. Right. It doesn't matter. It doesn't fucking matter. Like you're comparing apples and bananas, like not, not even apples and oranges. Yeah. Organization. Even with Trevor Lawrence.
00:40:34
Speaker
You saw what happened with like a bad system around him. He just, you can't do anything in a bad system like that. And then he finally got a good offensive coach. And I mean, he took that leap in the second year. And I mean, all high school when Trevor Lawrence, it was Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields, all high school, all college. And then, um, and Trevor Lawrence just stayed at number one and Justin Fields kind of faltered for some reason.
00:41:02
Speaker
But I mean, yeah, to that point, you can just see what a good system does around somebody and it will vastly improve them.
00:41:11
Speaker
You mean the environment that facilitates growth is important? What? Wait, hang on. We're from the Midwest. We've got corn and soybeans and all that bullshit. It's like you need the soil, you need sun, you need rain, maybe a little fertilizer and some pesticide bullshit, but you have to have the right environment for it.
00:41:35
Speaker
Otherwise, nothing's going to grow. There's not been the environment. The only reason the fields excelled last season at what he did was because they said, fuck it, we're going to lean into this. And they designed game plans around what he was doing. And it seems like none of that stuck around. Not even like 20% of that stuck around. We're getting like three plays. It's that. You are setting him up for failure. You are t-boing the shit out of this guy. It's fucking ridiculous. Yeah, it's very frustrating.
00:42:05
Speaker
And to any any fan out there that doesn't recognize this fuck you like you're fucking wrong. Check yourself. This is stupid yeah, also On some fucking punk ass bitch shit two games in being like let's take the fucking season like yeah This is rough like but could be a little bitch like this Yeah This is our fucking life get used to it. Don't be a bitch about it. Oh
00:42:31
Speaker
fucking pussies. I obviously spend way too much time online, but the whole fucking beer is right here right now. It's just fucking tank. I'm going to say right now, I spend very little time online and this is how fired up I imagine if I actually took the time to read through. That's why this week has felt so long and it's only Monday because I've just been steeping in that shit since yesterday and it's just so fucking annoying.
00:42:53
Speaker
Hey, we just said, man, environment is important. Okay. Yeah. The environment is important. Omar environment is important. Change your fucking environment. Yeah. Fuck. I can't. What am I going to root for another tip fan base? No, I'm saying don't go read those pages. I got to get off of Reddit. Honestly, that's pretty fair assessment. Well, here we are.
00:43:23
Speaker
So I don't think we already hit special teams, if you like.
00:43:30
Speaker
Yeah, um, yeah, I mean we can just hit any more final thoughts and what you feel like this this loss means in the greater get off the pot I'm gonna say that right now to the offensive coordinator shit or get off the pot Yeah, either lean in or give the guy a break and let him go somewhere That's actually gonna develop him and utilize his weapon like what he's good at. Yeah, don't fuck this kid over Not again, not another Chicago bear. Not it. Please feel the love of all this. Holy Don't
00:43:59
Speaker
Yeah. I just get your fucking head out of your ass. I don't know. I was saying the last week where I just feel like it was all, you had all off season and this is what you came up with. The fuck are we doing? It's ridiculous.
NFC North Vibe Check
00:44:14
Speaker
We're going into the NFC North vibe check. All right. So in this segment, we're just going to be going around the NFC North. I just going to take us through and we're going to talk about week two in the NFC North and what the vibes were like. Isaac, you want to get us started or you want me to? Yeah.
00:44:29
Speaker
Give us a little push to get going. I mean, you guys covered the Chicago Bears pretty much right. I mean, you got that all done with? Yeah. Yeah, I think we're done with that. I think it's good to say we just covered up. So, I mean, I can pick up at third place Minnesota Vikings. Rough start to the year, turnovers seem to be the biggest thorn in their side right now. I mean, they have a highly respected offense, and I mean, they shouldn't be struggling as much as they are.
00:45:00
Speaker
Turned the ball over seven times this year so far. Four in their last game, which kind of, I mean, that's mostly the reason they lost the game, because I mean, they lost by six points. So it was well within reach. They just dug themselves a hole with the turnovers that they couldn't get out of. Cousins had a good game, 360 and four, as well as Justin Jefferson continuing to show his dominance.
00:45:28
Speaker
On the pass-catching side of things, I mean, they're all really talented. I mean, Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, T.J. Hawkinson, but they're failing to generate any rushing attack right now. Through two weeks, they have 23 rushes for 62 yards. So that shows that they're not... They're not... The defense knows what's coming to them, so they're able to defend the elite pass-and-attack. They're not putting the defense on the heels.
00:45:59
Speaker
Isn't that weird to think from the Vikings too that they don't have a better than average rusher? I feel like that's something they've been good at for the last 20 years, since Adrian Peterson basically, that they've had, if not a stud, a next two stud. At least someone that can carry in enough to, like you said, create a little bit more balance and cause defenses to
00:46:27
Speaker
not have to scheme for a one dimensional offense. I mean, they've had their interior offensive line is their biggest issue. And I mean, they had their starting center out, but to generate, you know, three, three yards of carry is still in the bottom of the league. Um, that's for their offense, that pretty much sums that up. I mean, one dimensional,
00:46:56
Speaker
passing attack that isn't creating any unbalanced with imposing defenses. Was it raining or something like that? Because there was a lot of that whole game. Vikings weren't the only one with a lot of turnovers. Philly had actually had a lot of turnovers to that game. No, just Philly's been playing sloppy ball so far. Yeah, just sloppy ball on both sides.
00:47:22
Speaker
But I mean, the run game, I mean, they had no reason to do anything else other than run. I mean, DeAndre Swift had the game of his life pretty much with 180 yards. So I mean, I mean, fucking DeAndre Swift. I mean, no world beater, but he was on my fucking bench this week. I was so pissed. I was so pissed. That's yeah, I didn't, well, I mean, he hadn't, he was active week one and he only had, I think one carry. I mean, he was very limited.
00:47:53
Speaker
But I mean, that O line is going to make any running back look elite, pretty much. The failure to stop the run result in a pretty big kind of possession discrepancy. I mean, Minnesota only helped the ball for 20 minutes, that game. The pass defense seems slightly improved through two games, but I mean, they've played bigger midfield and Jalen Hurts with no reason to throw. So they'll have a tall task next week with Justin Herbert and the Chargers, you know, trying to not go 0-3. So I mean, I think that will be their biggest.
00:48:24
Speaker
That would be a testament to see if that pass defense has improved at all. But I mean, they'll be back home after long rest to face a winless Chargers team. A lot on the line for both teams. It kind of seems like a win or go home kind of game. Both teams are 0 and 2. To win, if they want to win, they're going to need a clean pass every game, pretty much. I mean, Chargers defense looks improved in the run game, but their pass defense is pretty easy to beat.
00:48:54
Speaker
If they can cut down the turnovers and, you know, work with their elite passing offense, I think they'll be all right. I think that game has the potential to be one of those fun ones where like high score backs. Yeah. High scoring a lot of yardage, like a lot of, you know, back and forth, I think. Um, yeah, that pretty much wraps it up for the Vikings unless you guys have anything. No, you want to go into lines though.
00:49:22
Speaker
Yeah, I was going to go to the second place, the Lions. The offense continues to look like a force to be reckoned with right now. Montgomery continued to be the bell cow back, but he left with an injury, so he'll probably be out a few weeks. So Craig Reynolds was taking the early down work. Jameer Gibbs was essentially ineffective running the ball. He tended to be more reliant in the passing game, but he had a crucial job, a crucial drop in the two minute drill.
00:49:51
Speaker
at the end of the first half. So they kind of were hesitant to look his way after that. Jared Goff was his regular, accurate self. I mean, finished with three 23 and three. I think he, yeah, he finished with his 11th higher passer rating, 11th highest passer rating today. He had a really good game. They both did on, Gina Smith had a great game, but yeah, Jared Goff had a pretty good game too.
00:50:14
Speaker
I feel like Gough fits so well in the Lions organization. He's really found a hole in there. Yeah, I mean, I don't think he was terrible by any means with the Rams, but he definitely has turned it up since he got with the Lions. Well, that OC Ben Johnson really plays to Gough's strengths, which is, I mean, it's crazy. What? And OC plays to a quarterback's strengths? But I mean, you see what happens is they rely on
00:50:43
Speaker
yardage after catch a lot. I mean, Jared Goff knows how to hit his people in stride, and they work with that. He knows how to create space for his receivers, and that's what they do. They don't rely on him to throw deep or anything. They rely on him to throw that 10 to 20 yard range, and that's where he's been super successful. Samuel Porter, the rookie tight end, continues to look decent. He had 63 yards on five catches. A manra was his normal self with a quiet 100 yards on six catches.
00:51:12
Speaker
And Josh Reynolds continues to be one of the more underrated pass catches in the league, finishing with 60-60 yards and two touchdowns. That's about it for the offense. I think their biggest issue is the defense and it continues to be a struggle right now. Their pass rush, you know, failed to generate pressure facing a heavily banged up Seattle O-line with their two top tackles out and nailing generated one sack all day. So, I mean, Gino Smith had all day in the pocket with a banged up O-line.
00:51:43
Speaker
I mean, their run defense stood strong and held them to only 82 yards and 25 rushes. But there was little reason to run the ball because the line secondary was given, you know, everything out. Gino having a great get right game after Ref week one. Aaron Glenn's seat continues to get hotter right now as defensive coordinator in year three, you know, running out of excuses talent wise and specifically picking players to fit his vision. The defense continues to get torched by, you know, the passing game.
00:52:15
Speaker
Um, they got hit by the injury bug pretty hard in week two. Um, they lost their starting right guard. It looks like David Montgomery is going to be out. And then also CJ Gardner Johnson tour pack as well, their free agent pickup. So a lot of injury bugs for them, but they'll have their work cut out for them with their good run defense next week, going against the Falcons who.
00:52:40
Speaker
Put up 211 rushing yards and 4.7 yards of rush on a Packers Swiss cheese of a defense. If they can stack the box and make rid or beat them, they should have a good shot. Any follow-ups for the Lions? No, those are solid. Not for the Lions. Game wise, I just had a Geno Smith went crazy. He was having a hell of a game. Yeah, he did. It was nuts. Crazy to watch. Cool to watch. I mean, just another example of when you play to a quarterback's strengths and put them in a good system, what they can do.
00:53:10
Speaker
Tyler Lockett is inevitable because he was before he went to Seattle. He's kind of considered a bust, wasn't he? Like there were people already super out. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. I mean, he stepped in as a backup at a couple of places beforehand. I was like, that's a he's a I was like, this dude got something in it. Yeah, sure.
00:53:28
Speaker
Yeah. When he ended up out in Seattle, I was like, good for him. He's one of those that absolutely earned a shot to be a starter. Yeah. It is good to see that he landed with, again, another system that builds to his strengths. Plus, I mean, when you have Lockit and you have Metcalf, come on. Yeah, Metcalf's a tank. That helps alleviate a little bit of shit for you. A little bit. A little bit.
00:53:54
Speaker
I mean, they also just spent my first round pick on a wide receiver, which a lot of teams are hesitant to do for some reason. I think that's about it, right? That's all we had for the NFC North. Well, it's a round off for the NFC North. We've got our first place, Green Bay Packers. This is the smugest. This is the smugest.
00:54:20
Speaker
Um, the offense seemed to pick up or left off in week one. They continued the zero turnover streak. The team's young pass catchers continued to shine. Um, Jane Reed had two touchdowns. Jordan Love still looked apart even without his top two weapons and they're all pro tackle. Damn, did they, who, who the fuck wrote these names?
00:54:45
Speaker
What knows? I did write one of them. Yo, I am not even all the way through it.
00:55:09
Speaker
bro i just i was looking up the games and stats whatever and a picture came up with them and i just went off i was like this dude looks fucking ridiculous bro it looks like if humans started to evolve backwards that one was isaac's that one was isaac's that's a good this reminds me of
00:55:26
Speaker
Looks like the type of dude to wear a leopard print on these. Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I'm wrong. He's a mid 80s like a baseball player. He's out there. Just doing a line, fucking smacking fingers.
00:55:44
Speaker
This is good shit. I'm sorry. I did not mean it around. They couldn't stop laughing. Oh my god. It reminds me of the, do you remember the old Daniel Tosh show? Like when he did Tosh. Yeah, Tosh. He would be like, all right, put 15 seconds on the clock and then he would just like, that's exactly what this reminds me of. That's what it felt like typing it out, bro. Cause it just kept coming to me. I was like, this dude,
00:56:10
Speaker
I think real quick before we will tie up this demo Desmond Ritter bit and let you get a Like you get I'm so sorry, dude. I really want on the packers. I just want to read So as mentioned before I just saw a picture this guy and just had to rattle him loves it Desmond Ritter got his six head Desmond Ritter looks like he chews on crayons Desmond Ritter looks like he would give you back your pen. I'll shoot up. I
00:56:33
Speaker
Desmond Ritter looks like if humans started to evolve backwards. Desmond Ritter looks like the type of dude to wear leopard print undies. Desmond Ritter looks like he reads slow. Desmond Ritter looks like he was a bully on the grade school playground. Desmond Ritter looks like he's still the bully on the grade school playground. Thank you. I'll be here all week.
00:57:00
Speaker
That's what the podcasters into. It's just a Desmond Ritter show for me to run out. It's just me practicing my type five for like a stand up. All right. Anyway, the way you're talking about the Packers there, it sounds like they had a pretty good game. Even let me finish. Yeah, please. I'm not even kidding. They did. It sounded like they were. They did. It looked good. All right. Finish up here. I'll restart. I'll restart since I was only like two lines in.
00:57:32
Speaker
Take it from the top. The Packers offense seemed to pick up where they left off in week one. They continued the zero turnover streak. The team's young pass catchers continued to shine and Jordan love still at the part, even without his top two weapons. And they're all pro tackle. Uh, David box, the Ari, the third quarter offense, which hindered the Packers last year, it continues to look great producing back to back touchdown drives in the third quarter to take a commanding 24 12 fleet heading into the fourth quarter.
00:57:59
Speaker
The Packers offense still left opportunities on the field relying on two DPI calls to do to under thrown deep passes that I got the Atlanta. It kind of caused the Atlanta defense to get on their heels a little bit. Love started slow, I think he started two of six. But then he started to hit a rhythm and he completed 12 of his next 13 passes, bringing his total to 14 of 19 for 151 and three touchdowns at the end of the third quarter.
00:58:26
Speaker
He had a couple of good throws during that stretch, but altogether there was nothing flashy about the play. Just simply took what the defense was giving him and spread the ball around and executed the game plan well. And then came the fourth quarter, which is where everything seemed to fall apart. The Green Bay offense generated a total of seven yards for the entirety of the fourth quarter. Bad passing and play calling all around pretty much.
00:58:54
Speaker
Jordan Love went 0-6 in the fourth quarter in a faulty run game, generated seven yards on the ground, leading to back-to-back three-house and failing to give our defense any time to rest, so they could just keep getting beat up by that Atlanta run game. Didn't field position just get worse and worse, too, with each of those? Well, yeah. But also, our defense was giving up chunk plays
00:59:25
Speaker
And especially in the fourth quarter, I mean, the same run defense struggles seemingly carried over from last year. Atlanta has an elite run game and essentially no pro tape on Bijon, but still the unit lit up 211 yards on the ground. We failed to generate any crucial third or fourth down stops or anything like that. Fourth quarter was complete collapse on the defensive side. I mean, Atlanta got way too many explosive plays.
00:59:52
Speaker
Mac Hollands had a 45 yard catch over Darnell Savage on a flea flicker. Fucking flea flicker in 2023. It's fun to see that come out of the playbook every now and then. Yeah. But that's the shit that you would pull off at like your elementary school games. That's how the little giants won. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I can't, can't discredit that.
01:00:19
Speaker
But I mean, I'm sorry. Good. No, you're good. I just was going to say I vaguely kind of get that reference. I'm not even Isaac. Do you know that reference? Because I kind of do. Is that a movie? The Little Giants? I know. It's a little bit of a grandness. OK. And it played one of the dads and then his brother was a fuck listening that played Ed Bundy from Ed O'Neill, married with children at O'Neill. Thank you. Yeah.
01:00:46
Speaker
yeah i just was curious because i was like that's rings a bell but i don't totally get that right friends i was like i wonder if isaac even gets that one hashtag old guy yeah we love it we love it wait do people still do hashtags i don't fucking know sometimes not not austin uh jayre alexander had a terrible day i mean being targeted i think he was letting up a perfect passer rating to desert murder he just
01:01:16
Speaker
was playing off and just was just letting a lot of shit get by him. I mean, overall, the team is going to have bumps and bruises and they still got to win to learn, you know, they got to learn to win close games, which is going to happen, but it's still aggravating because they should have had to win. They just. It's tough to ask your team to go out there and win two straight away games, but especially without their blue chip talent, but.
01:01:45
Speaker
They weren't able to sneak it out and that's what happens and I hope they will pick up from it. But they finally Green Bay has their home opener next week against a Derek Carr lead Saints team, which looks pretty beatable. I'm hoping we can help minimize those explosive blades because that's what Derek Carr likes to do. And that's pretty much it for the Packers.
01:02:12
Speaker
That has the potential to be another one of those fun, fun games. Especially if our defense plays like they are now. Yep. Overall, the NFC was, uh, everyone in the NFC lost and the NFC North lost this week too. Well, I mean, we're still number one. That's pretty, Hey, I'm just having the lines lost because that means we're number one still. So I'm okay. We got the lines in week four, so that'll be good.
01:02:42
Speaker
you know, who can take number one for a while. I think the Minnesota Vikings game, I guess the charge is going to be. I think that's going to be a lit one for sure. It's going to be fun. Are you guys going to win that? Lions charges, you said?
01:03:00
Speaker
I think the chargers are more holistically like above, just slightly would edge out. However, if the past game of Minnesota is on and their defense is able to make like a single major stop, it could easily swing to Minnesota. I expect that to be a pretty close game, though. It looks like the Vikings are one and a half point favorites at home right now.
01:03:28
Speaker
Honestly, them being at home is the only reason they have that. 54 and a half over under. Oh, yeah. I would put money on the over for sure. Would going to motherfucker looking at. Not a better take betting advice from me, but I totally would do this.
01:03:56
Speaker
No, I think I think that has the potential to be a very high scoring game. So. All right, boys, any any final thoughts on the scene? The vibe.
01:04:07
Speaker
No, the vibe is potential. I think the vibe is potential. You know, like you see that with the Packers are showing great potential. The Lions show great potential. The Vikings have significant potential. I think that they are probably the one of the best like pass teams out there. It's just that they have too many other weaknesses is the issue. And yet they're still able to compete like they still they're an elite level passing team, you know, so that's what's going to keep them in games.
01:04:33
Speaker
But that I think is very similar to the position that the New Orleans Saints were in during a couple of breezes last year's, where they're putting up 54 points, but they're giving up 55. Potential would be the word. I think it's interesting for the year after this because Kirk's not under contract or anything. I don't get where they're trying to go after this year. But I mean, enjoyable at last.
01:05:03
Speaker
I thought it was kind of, yeah, just to me, it's kind of weird that there's like the NFC North is so weak defensively across the board. That is odd.
01:05:14
Speaker
I mean, traditionally, that's what most of the NFC North teams are known for, right? Yeah. Specifically the Bears, definitely the Packers, and then even the purple people. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. The Vikings had to stand too. I mean, even in the Zimmer era, the Vikings continually had good defenses.
01:05:39
Speaker
Yes, absolutely. Like what, top 15, right? Like they were like that 10, 15 range, you know, could create turnovers, could create pressure. We're exciting to watch, especially in big game situations, they were able to pull off some good plays. But, and I feel like that is, that is lackluster in the NFC North right now when it comes to the defense. I'd be interested to see that stat of like divisionally.
01:06:04
Speaker
defensive pressure, defensive takeaways, defensive, you know, force fumbles, interceptions, whatever it might be. You know, and where the NFC North lands in that. I'd be very interested to see that. All right. Well, with that, we'll move into, we'll move into week three, week three preview. Bears got the, first got the Kansas City Chiefs. That's going to be a really tough one.
01:06:27
Speaker
I think we need to discuss the Chiefs first and see if I can come up with anything
Bears vs. Chiefs Preview
01:06:31
Speaker
from the Bears. Because right now, I've got to tell you, no. I'm there. I'm right there with you. I don't know. If you're looking at the outline, it's literally blank in that spot. Because I was like, I know. I think we discussed the Chiefs first. The big thing with the Chiefs, obviously, if you're going from their strengths, it's Patrick Mahomes, right? I mean, that's it. I mean, that's not the only strength, obviously. But it is the big one, the big strength.
01:06:56
Speaker
You got Patrick Mahomes, you have one of the best offensive lines in football. Travis Kelcey is back. Pacheco has shown out the last two weeks. He's been looking good. I think strength-wise overall, they are the Kansas City Chiefs. They might not have gotten out to a slow start.
01:07:20
Speaker
they're still the fucking chiefs. They still have, they still have, they're going to be a big threat no matter what. That is a team I'm excited to see in mid-season form. This is a team that I think will be able to get over some of the struggles that they have as opposed to like, honestly with the Bears, I think some of the struggles that we have are organizational and I don't think we're going to see that change before mid-season. Yeah.
01:07:40
Speaker
Whereas the chiefs are very much like, no bitch, like we will be a contender one way or another. And they're just ironing things out, I think. I mean, it's only going to be week three, so. Anything else for you on the strength side?
01:07:55
Speaker
No, I just think, I mean, you hit it. Their offensive line is top tier. Patrick Mahomes is, I mean, the quarterback of this generation. Travis Kelsey's great tight end. Isaiah Pacheco looks great. Same thing, same deals.
01:08:12
Speaker
Yeah, we I mean we hit a little bit. They just have had a slow start. I mean we're saying they've had turnovers and They're struggling against defenses that aren't the best but Hey, so we might actually get a turnover. Yeah might get a turnover might be able to hold them to you know, I Very much doubt we get a sack but we might be able to create a turnover. Yeah in some way. I
01:08:35
Speaker
Their offense is still pretty young, and they're still learning how to work together, and it's tough when you don't have that experience together. And they've had their struggles in third down situations. They're 9 and 27 on conversions in third down, looks like, which is not great. I think we're pretty close to that, actually. If I remember right, I had that number somewhere. I don't have it in front of my notes anymore. But I had something pulled up on that, and I was like, oh, god damn. Defensively. Sorry, good.
01:09:04
Speaker
It's going to be easier for them to learn to gel though, when you have an offensive coordinator and a system built around someone who has the potential to eventually become one of the greatest of all time. You know what I mean? So it's like.
01:09:16
Speaker
And he has the leadership piece to it, like where he has he's not being coached on how to play in this system. He he is coaching others on how to play in the system. And that's that's a different level. Right. Yeah. Then if we were to try to compare that to like our situation. Yeah. So I expect them to be pretty good. Like, yes, they're defense. You can count on their offense being good regardless of how young regardless of the issues that they have to iron out.
01:09:44
Speaker
They'll make little mistakes here and there. It's going to cost them some stuff early on, but they're going to get that shit ironed out pretty quick, I think. Yeah. Just watch their defense. Yeah, go ahead. I was just going to say, watching them defensively, they've been I mean, they've been playing really, really well. They're doing good at stopping the run, doing good at getting pressure on the QB. They played Jacksonville last week and they held them to nine, which I mean, it's not like Jacksonville is the greatest offense in the league, but they're I mean, it's one of their strengths, I think, for sure, especially with Trevor Lawrence.
01:10:16
Speaker
So holding them to nine is pretty impressive. And yeah, they've had a really good red zone defense as well. I think that about covers the Chiefs unless you got anything you want to add. No.
01:10:28
Speaker
Let's go to the Bears. I mean, strengths and weaknesses. I mean, there are things that could be our strengths. There are things that I don't know if they haven't been. I don't know if they will be. But I mean, as always, Justin Fields and his ability to run, his ability to extend the play, that's always the strength of ours. I think we've seen DJ Moore be really good at getting yards after catch. So I mean, that could be our strength. We'll see. I mean, we'll fucking see where our secondary is at.
01:10:58
Speaker
Overall, I mean, our defense has had a chance to play together. Our offensive line has had a chance to play together. Maybe that'll gel and improve on week three. But I mean, a lot of weaknesses in play calling, weaknesses in Justin Fields not playing the way that he should be. Again, we put an attack extensively, whether that's him or the coaching. I mean, we'll find out eventually, hopefully. But for now, it's an issue. It's a weakness.
01:11:27
Speaker
Yeah, our secondary might be a weakness if we still have a lot of injuries like we did this week. But I mean, it's stacked against us for sure. A lot of weaknesses, not a lot of strengths right now. And we're not playing to the strengths that we do have. So I think it's going to be a- I'm going to go ahead and say zero strengths. I have no expectations whatsoever that any type of significant change is going to take place heading into week three. I think that they're going to try and run this out again.
01:11:57
Speaker
I wonder what the over under is on the number of screenplays. Whatever it is, you should probably take the over. I might do that. Like, oh, man, it's. Yeah. Weaknesses across the board right now. I mean, we're bad right now. We're a bad team. We are a bad team. And I don't think there's there's no sugarcoating yet.
01:12:24
Speaker
I also think there's no use in bitching and whining about it, but whatever gets you through, you know, keys to victory. Keys to victory. Uh, I will say immediately the key to victory right here.
01:12:38
Speaker
would be a massive significant change and let Justin Fields do some shit. Let him do some shit because let them extend the play. Let him put a defense on their heels. Let him make a defense, start second guessing so he can actually utilize the weapon. Otherwise you don't have weapons. You went out and got weapons to fit in a system
01:13:04
Speaker
that should have been designed around his ability to extend the play and his ability to create shit out of nothing. Yeah. And the second you take that away, you no longer have weapons. You have neutralized the weapons now. Yeah. I think already, too, it's like we're operating with weapons. We're not operating with game changers. And so even then, it's like if you're not you don't even have, you know what I'm saying? Like you don't have that to where you can solely rely on them. So you're already shooting yourself in the foot with that.
01:13:32
Speaker
by not playing to your weapons, you know? Yeah, but that's honestly the only key to victory. No, for sure. The biggest key to victory is you gotta let him do it. And honestly, that's not even key to victory. That's a key to give us.
01:13:44
Speaker
Any type of chance whatsoever. And if you don't do that, this is going to be a fucking shit show. It was picked to be America's game of the week. And I want to, I feel like they should not, I feel like they need to reevaluate that. They definitely made that choice before seeing what the bears came up with this season. And I guarantee there are some executives going, fuck. Someone's getting chewed out right now for making that call.
01:14:10
Speaker
Um, I do wonder, I mean, just as like final thoughts here, I guess, before we wrap up, I do wonder what kind of conversations are going on within the organization. Cause I would like to hope that, uh, polls is chewing the fuck out of.
01:14:25
Speaker
And tell them to get his head out of his ass or something because otherwise, I don't know. Otherwise, polls is going to look like shit, too. Yeah. You know, it's not just going to be the coaching staff. It's going to be him because he built a portion of this as well. Yeah. So. It's not looking great, but that's all right. Any any final thoughts here? Either you guys.
01:14:50
Speaker
No. All right. Actually, I am interested. Isaac, Isaac, what do you think the key to the victory over the fucking Kansas city chiefs would be? Hey, don't put me on blast. That's crazy. Um, genuinely, I think it's going to be low scoring game. I think it's going to be like 20 to 14 or something like that. I think it's going to be like.
01:15:14
Speaker
Because the Chiefs offense is still trying to get rolling. I mean, they struggled against the Lions defense that Gino just cut out. They struggled against the Jags defense that, you know, hasn't showed much promise. But I think their defense is going to be the problem. I mean, especially with Chris Jones coming back. I mean, he only played 51% of stats last week, but you felt his presence out there. So I mean, if he has any sort of snap count resurgence,
01:15:43
Speaker
It's going to be rough. It's not looking great. Yeah, especially with him being in the emergence of Carloftes and stuff like that and just the emergence of the young coroners and the secondary and Nick Bolton being one of the better linebackers in the league now. That defense is going to win him a lot of games, a lot of close games this year that the offense won't be able to. It'll be a true test to our offensive line.
01:16:12
Speaker
I said that the offensive line gave them gave him more time this week than they did the week prior. They went out and they did better than the week prior. Well, I'm interested to see first, first off, Jesus Christ, please don't give up six sacks again. Like, and that not even on the line. I'm talking to Justin Fields like, God damn it, dude, like throw the fucking ball away if you need to. But yeah, no, you're absolutely right. And I think it's going to be a good test to see. OK, hey.
01:16:41
Speaker
You did your job last week against an extremely aggressive Bucks defense. I mean, we saw the Bucks against the Vikings. We knew right then, like, you know, they're coming out hit. Yeah. And they did not hold back in the game against the Bears. So. But I think talent wise, yeah, you're absolutely right that the Kansas City Chiefs have that that defense that's going to be a good test.
01:17:05
Speaker
Really, to stop Patrick from home, you've just got to stop the deep ball. So, I mean, if they can do anything like that, because, I mean, they really, especially with the inexperience with the on receivers, that short to intermediate game is, you know, hard to come by right now. So, they're just trusting their receivers to get deep. But, I mean, if they can shut down that deep passing, then that's the first step. We'll see.
01:17:27
Speaker
Um, but right now it doesn't look too bright. If I'm being Frank, it looks, uh, looks like we're going to be going on three. But if I'm being Omar, it still looks like we're going on three. You got any score predictions? If there's a team for them to pop off against.
01:17:44
Speaker
It's very true. I'm saying it as a fucking Bears fan. I've been here before. If there was to be a team where, oh shit, all of a sudden things are clicking, it's going to be us. It's going to be us. Yeah, score predictions, I don't know.
01:18:01
Speaker
I would say I'm going to call it like 10 to like 30 chiefs because chiefs would probably pop off. And I don't know. I don't see the defense is just rolling. So I don't see it. I was going to say, I was going to say if they were to pop off, it would be like 35. So I don't know. I'm not totally how you know here. But what's what's up? The chiefs are 13 point favorites. But Patrick Mahomes against the spread
01:18:30
Speaker
It's 40 38 and two. So it's basically flipping a call. Yeah. That I mean, like do the bears cover. And at that point I'm going to go with sure. That's what I'm saying. I think, I think it's going to be a little scoring 24 14 game. That's my, that's my solid prediction. Sure. All right. Well, I think we're good. And I think that about, we're going to predictions and it about wraps up this episode. I think
Podcast Conclusion and Host Projects
01:18:58
Speaker
Stein, what have you got for the people?
01:19:03
Speaker
Hit me up on our other podcast. You're good, Rose. You were just going through it right now. I was. I was. Was this cathartic for you in any way or was this just more stressful?
01:19:17
Speaker
No, I think it definitely helped getting some of my frustration out. Typing out my notes, I literally quit typing notes. I quit. Like mid-sentence, I quit. Just stop. Full stop. I was in the middle of the word defense. I have D-E-F-E.
01:19:35
Speaker
And you were done. I was like, I'm done. And I was like, nope, I know exactly what I want to say. I'm just going to go with it. Anyway. Anyway, yeah, sorry. Check out my other podcast, Check Flix with Dix. I see that some of my metrics have been going up, which is awesome. If you're enjoying that one, please make sure you rate and review as well and share that one. I've been doing that one for almost five years now.
01:20:04
Speaker
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01:20:31
Speaker
Instagram, and you can DM me on there. Very cool. All right. If you want to find me on Instagram, I'm at O-H-M-A-R, Daniel. I keep everything updated there. When I'm coming out with new projects or music or stuff, all my music links are on there. You can listen to my music. I got a bunch of projects out that's all on Spotify or Apple. You can just find me at my regular name, Omar Daniel.
01:20:56
Speaker
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01:21:16
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01:21:43
Speaker
So we have the Kansas City Chiefs this week, and we'll see how that goes. But other than that, we're just going to be back on it. We're going to still be on our regular schedule. We're going to be trying to release an episode within a day or two of the game that is just going to be recap, and then we'll give a preview for the next week. That's going to be our schedule. But anyways, thanks for listening. Thanks for tuning in.
01:22:04
Speaker
Isaac. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. No, go ahead. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not, I'm not used to it. You got projects to kick it out there. Yeah. Yeah. I guess if you want to share just my Instagram, Isaac, E Y Z E Z E C K E Y E Z E C K. Um, I update with all my future projects. I got a few projects that I'm working on right now. Um, and that's mostly where I keep everything updated. Very cool. Sorry. I got rolling in. Yeah.
01:22:35
Speaker
follow Isaac. I'm going to change my prediction before we go. Okay. You ready for this? You ready? Do it. Okay.
01:22:47
Speaker
Bears 21, Chiefs 20. Patrick Mahomes agrees on new monster contract with the Chiefs. And if anything has shown us from monster contracts from quarterbacks, I'm going to tell you right now, like I would love to see him take a dip against the Bears. It won't last if it happens. So there it is. I'm changing it. The Chiefs 20. Honestly, not a bad call. I honestly would love to see this podcast if the Bears end up winning. Oh, dude.
01:23:15
Speaker
Oh, Super Bowl aspirations. We're back in the Justin Fields back in MVP conversation. Oh, God. All right. Well, thank you guys for listening for listening. Isaac, thank you for joining us and helping out. Isaac is going to be our new permanent special guest. Yeah. Anyway, thanks for listening, guys. We'll be back next week and see you then. And until then, bear the fuck down and quit being a little bitch.
01:23:45
Speaker
Da Bears.