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Episode 9: The Chicago Bears vs The Washington Commanders
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The wait is over! The Bears finally have a point in the win column, Bears fans rejoice! The boys break down the game, give the NFC North a vibe check and preview what's next for the Chicago Bears. Give it a listen and Bear Down!
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Tribute to Dick Butkus
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome to Dub Air Claw podcast. I am your host Omar Delgado with me, Zachary Stein, also known as Stein and Isaac Turjan, Packers fan, expert extraordinaire. All right. Week five. We finally got a dub.
00:00:22
Speaker
We finally got a dub after more than a year. We beat it before the year. Okay, close though. We're getting close here. But before we get into our win.
00:00:36
Speaker
Let's do some cleanups and updates. As of recently, no cleanups because we're flawless, but some updates for you. I want to give a huge rest in peace and just mention that Dick Butkus passed last Thursday. Not only, I think, Bears legend, but just in general, NFL defensive legend. I think across the league, he's widely recognized as the blueprint for what a linebacker should be and just had a great career, not only in college, but in NFL and with the Bears and is an iconic bear.
00:01:06
Speaker
So if you get the chance, look up some Dick Butkus highlights. He was a monster. He's a great player. Looks like he died at 80, so he lived a long life. It seems I'm so far, I think it was just because of age, old age, natural causes.
00:01:22
Speaker
Yeah, just condolences to the Butkus family. I think, I think Dick Butkus kind of gave like a pride to play defense in that Midwest area. Because I mean, there was a lot of everyone wants to play offense and be explosive. But I think, I think that what he did, yeah, kind of started like taking pride in playing defense and being a game wrecker. Yeah. Well, being aggressive and passionate, I think, too, was something that he brought to the game. So you got any thoughts on Dick Butkus?
00:01:52
Speaker
I remember watching old film and stuff when I was a kid and getting into football and on the defensive side of the ball, just he was one of those influential people that even after he had stopped playing and was coaching at the time when I started playing like that, that's how old I am. But, you know, my dad grew up watching him and so very influential in our household, especially being Bears fans.
00:02:21
Speaker
born and bred. I truly believe I couldn't agree with Isaac more. I think he did bring that excitement and the honor of being on the defensive side of the ball. People used to say they hated getting hit by him. He would just find a way to hit them in the worst possible way, the way that made them feel it the most to where they would
00:02:48
Speaker
found themselves second guessing. They found themselves stuttering.
00:02:52
Speaker
Yeah, their steps slightly if they knew if they knew he was across the yeah of that way They picked they were like sure like should I really go that way? Immediately start second-guessing their life choices basically. Yeah, what led me to this moment? We're on face to face with dick buckets Yeah, like yeah, I don't blame them that definitely would I think make me reevaluate Where it's like it like shows the intro and the character
00:03:21
Speaker
is like doing something and then immediately there's like a oh like a cut yeah let's talk about how i got to this moment yeah yeah yeah that'd be great um very influential rest in peace tip buckets very influential great bear again if you get the chance go look up highlights go learn about him very important to a bear's history and the nfl of defensive history in general
00:03:44
Speaker
Yeah, worth mentioning, too. When he passed, too, it was cool seeing all the love online from fan bases across the NFL, even from Packers fans, even from Lions fans, like people within the division and just anywhere. It was just all love. And that was great to see. It's always.
00:03:57
Speaker
Love of the game ties us all together. But moving on to the next update.
Chase Claypool Trade
00:04:03
Speaker
Chase Claypool is fucking out of here. Peace bro. Fucking seeing never your dork. He got traded to the dolphins and he's gone. You got anything about that Stein? Yeah. I mean, I think it's the horse has been beaten, right? Yeah. It's a very clearly a waste of a fucking trade to get him in order for it to play out this way. I mean,
00:04:28
Speaker
at the time, I don't think that we could have known it was going to turn out this bad. Yeah. Yeah. I think we mentioned that early on that in the moment was a good, it was a great time, even though it hasn't shook out the way we wanted it to. So, um, you know,
00:04:45
Speaker
It sucks because all we got was what, a sixth round? Fifth round. We traded him and a six round of the Dolphins for a fifth round in
Impact of Tevin Jenkins' Return
00:04:55
Speaker
the 2025 draft. Yeah. Oh, what we got for him. Yeah. Yeah, it was only him. So what can you do, though, around?
00:05:03
Speaker
I was watching the, I don't know if you've seen that clip going around of him. He's on Brandon Marshall's podcast talking about how, Oh, I know I'm a top five top pre receiver. Like I know how, you know, I know how good I am, blah, blah, blah. And then he's given out like they're all like, give us the numbers. What do you think your numbers are going to be? He's like, you know, like 1300.
00:05:21
Speaker
yards, you know, next season, like this many touchdowns, blah, blah, blah. And then it showed 10 games. Yeah, you fucking clown. Yeah. But anyway, enough about him. Fucking see you never later. I wanted to give an update. I mean, it's pretty, I guess he might excel in that in that dolphin's scheme. I mean,
00:05:40
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, that's a possibility for sure. I don't think that'll be due to individual effort, though. I think that'll be more due to probably success and scheme and the talent around him that'll, you know, help him. Next up, I mean, this one, maybe I'll cut this, but I felt like it was worth mentioning. Anyone who watched the game, though, knew that Tevin Jenkins is officially back his return to cut it. Absolutely important. Yeah. Difference maker. Game changer. Yeah, I think we saw that. And that was pretty obvious with him coming back.
00:06:08
Speaker
I mean, it was cool. He didn't seem like he missed a step. He just hopped right back in and continued to be used. I was surprised, to be honest, because with it being on a short week, I wasn't sure how the conditioning form was going to be. So I thought maybe we might see him for, I don't know, maybe a couple of years or something, just to kind of get him out there.
00:06:28
Speaker
I mean, he stepped in, everyone shifted their positions and they honestly seem to be closer to lockstep than what they had. So it was good to see him out there. And I sincerely hope that he can stay healthy and maintain that. It would be nice to get some consistency and some good games, especially with the younger guys that we've got on that line. But you could tell that the leadership he brings to it.
00:06:50
Speaker
helped for sure. Yeah, it's important. He's definitely a huge part of the offensive line. And yeah, I agree with you. Great
Khalil Herbert's Injury Update
00:06:56
Speaker
to see him back. Hopefully he can stay healthy. On the topic of health, the one person that we know is going to for sure be out on this next game due to injuries, Khalil Herbert. He had an ankle injury. Sounds like a high ankle sprain on Thursday. And we'll get into that a little more later. But it seems like he's probably going to be out for three to four weeks. That's speculation. The bears have yet to say anything for sure. But I mean, I feel like it's a pretty safe bet.
00:07:19
Speaker
He tried coming back. So I mean, he did try coming back in game. Yeah. But I don't know if you saw that as he tried to run and he was like, oh, I can't. Yeah. He went to plant that foot and take off. Yeah. Nope. Can't do that. Yeah. And I was like, hey, props didn't credit. Oh, honestly, I don't care. Worth it at that. I'm glad that he sat it down at that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's good because for him to do that and be sure in his own mind of like, nope, I need to. I can't, you know.
00:07:43
Speaker
So then also another update. Kylie Gordon is set to return from IR. He was out for a hand injury. That happened, I think, week one versus Green Bay, right? So he was supposed to have him back. Hopefully he can come back for this next game. And it'll be great to have him back in a secondary that has kind of struggled and been having to make do and step up in his absence, in the absence of a few other starters.
00:08:08
Speaker
Also this week, Maddie refused to announce that the search has begun for a defensive analyst to do deeper scouting on teams that we're going against. He said, fuck that shit. So I'm very interested to see who he's going to go for. Yeah. I don't know if he'd reach in the back pocket and try to pull former people he's worked with. Yeah. You definitely did. I heard.
00:08:36
Speaker
Or one analyst say, you definitely don't want to bring in someone that has more power than you, which makes sense, especially when he's trying to establish that he is a legitimate, that he is a legitimate head coach at the NFL level. And I get that. Yeah, you don't want to bring someone with more pull when you're on the hot seat already. Exactly.
00:09:01
Speaker
But no, I think honestly, looking at this mini buy a week that we've got, going from playing on a Thursday to waiting for the next Sunday, you got 10 days. So it's not a full buy where you get the full two weeks off, but close enough, better than the three and a half days we had between the Sunday and Tuesday. Yeah. Although, I mean, we'll get into it. It seems to have served us well, but having a short week.
00:09:27
Speaker
So it'll be interesting to see how some of those injuries pan out we're gonna discuss way more injuries that took place during the game. Yeah. So yeah, yeah. I mean, I know that it's certainly gonna have an effect.
Bears' Victory Over Commanders
00:09:38
Speaker
I'm very interested in keeping a close eye on who are we going out and are we signing anyone?
00:09:43
Speaker
during this little window that we've got. Oh, right now, yes. We'll see if we can get a good idea of who's... We're snagging up two running backs, not just one. It has more to... It's less to do with depth and more to do with, oh no, we're out of people. Yeah.
00:10:01
Speaker
Which will tell us, oh, so-and-so is most likely not going to be. Not going to be back for a bit. Or if they are, they're going to be available at a very limited capacity. Sure. Any, anything else for updates or cleanups? Cool. Well, let's get into it. First, for our show, the bears have fucking won a goddamn game. Finally. After losing four straight. Yes. Fucking the bears beat the commanders.
00:10:29
Speaker
How are you feeling? Get fucked. We won, bitch. We fucking won. Let's go. How are you feeling, son? End of podcast. Yeah, that's it. Cut it right there. Bears win 40 to 20. How are you feeling? All in all, pretty good. Yeah. A little frustrating a little bit there, but. For a moment, yeah. A few moments. Yeah.
00:10:49
Speaker
I'm feeling good, man. I was really, uh, I was really unsure if we were going to be able to bounce back from the collapse that we had in the, at the end of the fourth quarter in the Broncos game. And I wasn't sure if we were going to be able to replicate, you know, the offensive success that we had starting off in that game. But I mean, we fucking really picked up where they left off from that perspective, right? Being able to jump right in. It seemed like they controlled the game for a bit there.
00:11:16
Speaker
Um, for a long bit, right. Good first half. So yeah, it was familiar all of a sudden. Yeah. That proved that the Broncos game was not like a one time thing. Right. As far as initial execution before the meltdown at the end. Um, but as far as that initial execution, being, being able to control the game clock.
00:11:39
Speaker
making decent throws, putting fields in a position to be successful while putting some of your other playmakers in positions to execute accordingly. Make plays, yeah. And exactly, do what they get paid to do. So yeah, it was exciting. It was a fun first half to watch.
00:11:55
Speaker
Yeah, I was having a lot of fun. From the jump, it was a lot of fun, I felt like. So getting into the game, as you mentioned, Fields had a great game. I felt like he looked, again, like you were saying, he looked like he did in the Broncos game at the beginning of it. He just looked super confident. I think he was making really great throws. It was great seeing him do good. I just felt like watching that, it put more...
00:12:15
Speaker
put more arrows in the quiver for my defense of Justin Fields, you know, seeing that he can replicate that success and that he can stand in the pocket and do good and he still has his legs and stuff and was able to think to really just pick apart the commander's defense right at the beginning there. It was really great to watch and
00:12:34
Speaker
It was great to see the running game get going, too. I felt like we were running over him pretty well. Kaleo Herbert was doing really, really well till he got injured. So yeah, in the first half, I mean, we just came out swinging right away. We were throwing deep early on. I mean, the first two plays, first two big plays, I should say, were deep passes from fields to more. One to keep the drive alive, and then the second deep pass was just great pass to DJ Moore for a touchdown. And I mean, it was just electric from then on. It felt like they just were having so much fun.
00:13:02
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, we can talk about more all day, right? Career day. Oh, yeah. Career day. Career best. Number two, right? In Bears all time. I think Alshon Jeffery is the only one that has higher than a single game as far as like total yards. But you look at DJ Morth, eight catches, 230 yards and three TDs on the day.
00:13:23
Speaker
fields in the first half alone was 12 for 20 with 189 yards and three touchdowns just in the first half. It was fun being able to see them actually. The run game was effective again, right? It was against the Broncos. We saw an increase in the run game. We saw Herbert all in all just doing what he wanted to, which also I think is indicative of the front line, right? Yeah. The offensive line was making- Our O line looks great. Opening the holes.
00:13:53
Speaker
They did a fantastic job. They were trucking people too. Yeah, it was great. Absolutely. And you could tell, I felt like in this one, even though the run game was solid in the first half of both games, I felt like it was slightly different than this, just having Jenkins back, right? Yeah. I don't know. There was like this extra energy. Yeah. Electricity to it. That was fun. Fun to watch.
00:14:14
Speaker
But even fields moving his legs a little bit and being able to spread out the field, some of the option pieces that they had, it definitely, you can tell that when the running game is going, I think he's more comfortable in the pocket and he's more comfortable in making those passes and taking extra shots down the field and he feels confident. He's talked about it too, yeah. When he can get the legs going or when he feels like he can get quick passes out and getting a rhythm, he talks about feeling a lot more confident.
00:14:39
Speaker
I think he's talked about too even saying that when he gets hit, he feels like he can run and get hit a little bit. He feels like he can really get going. Well, and I think that I wonder if that has to do with like a somatic thing for him with like, uh, something to
00:14:53
Speaker
that helps maybe calm the nerves a bit. That's everything with somatic movements is to help try to calm the nervous system, calm that limbic system. I'm wondering if that has something to do with it. He's in his element then and gets that contact and it's contact that he's initiating. You see him lower his shoulders when he's going in and some of those things. For sure, and it's not him.
00:15:17
Speaker
getting sacked or getting hit. Yeah. Without being prepared for it. Exactly. Yeah. There's a great clip of Walter Payton where there's someone's talking about how they talk to Walter Payton and they asked him, he came up to them. I forget who the person was, but he came up to them and he asked him like, Hey, like you ever get nervous, you know, before a game.
00:15:32
Speaker
You know, the guy's talking to Walter Payton, so he's trying to be like, no, no, you know, I never get there. And then Walter Payton's like, I get nervous. He's like, I get crazy, crazy nervous. He's like, until I get that first hit, but once I get hit that first time, like it all fades away and I'm just back in my like, I just feel good again and I'm ready to go. So, not too far of a stretch, I think to say that, you know, maybe the same is true for Justin Fields.
00:15:54
Speaker
Hey guys, just wanted to introduce this clip. This is Jim Harbaugh talking about meeting and talking to Walter Payton about getting nervous before games. For those of you who don't know, Jim Harbaugh was quarterback for the Bears for a little bit and also had some great success with the 49ers for a while and is currently coaching at Michigan. So here it is.
00:16:18
Speaker
Well, before I played my first preseason game as a player, my rookie year, I was sitting by my locker, and Walter Payton came up to me and asked me if I was nervous. I said, no, I'm not nervous. No, it's just preseason. But I really was nervous, very nervous, and almost like the point where I thought I was going to throw up in my helmet just sitting there. And Walter said I get nervous for every game.
00:16:45
Speaker
Every game I get nervous. And then I take my first hit and then I'm fine. And then I got up and walked away. And that was very profound to me. Wow. Walter Payton gets nervous. And that's OK. Well, I'm sure for not just Justin, right? I would say that. Yeah, probably most NFL players.
00:17:11
Speaker
I mean, Josh Allen throws up before every game still, you know, is that true? Yeah. Yeah. You know, after all these years, like, yeah, it's just something that he does. There's, that's fucking wild. Right. Yep. It didn't matter how many, how many games I played in it. Like I always had that little bit of nerves. Like, yeah, I felt that with wrestling too. I felt like no matter how many times before you get those butterflies, you know, and you're still kind of like, Oh,
00:17:33
Speaker
Absolutely, um, you know and then and then you get something just clicks right? Yeah, and it's like it goes away Yeah, just kind of melts away. Yeah, and it's like all right. I'm good. Let's do this. Yeah. Yep So yeah, great first half we were able to get a pick on the in the first half strawman picked off howl the uh, the commander quarterback Mm-hmm. Cocomat had a great first half too. I think Cocomat continues to be I think a great source of production. I think you had a great just just game in
Performance Analysis of DJ Moore and Darnell Mooney
00:18:00
Speaker
general, right? Yeah. Yeah, that was like solid all around so
00:18:03
Speaker
He had a couple of real good blocks. Yeah, he had good catches too. I felt like, yeah, he was running hard too after contact. It was great. I just felt bad for Mooney, honestly, because it just seemed like even though he was getting targeted, he just could not, I don't know, just couldn't catch a break, whether it was dropping the ball or just
00:18:22
Speaker
Getting overthrown just by hair or something like it just felt like I'm gonna get going I think that's something to speak to the commander's defense to like I don't think that they were necessarily complete and total garbage their coverage was fairly decent it just on in certain areas right like like like the
00:18:41
Speaker
Especially when they were manning up on Mooney, he had a couple of contended passes that he had to fight for that he just didn't haul in. Personally for me, I felt like the commanders were going to be a bigger challenge than Denver. I was honestly surprised by the end of the first half that we were doing what we were doing.
00:19:01
Speaker
Yet again, other than the fact that they also had some injuries coming in and stuff. So I was not surprised at all by them Fighting back in the second half. Yeah, I was expecting that for sure. Well real quick I just wanted to touch back on the on the offensive line again, too because I felt like we we spent a good chunk of time last week talking about how Good that front four of the commanders was and I felt like the offensive line held up really well against them for the most part and
00:19:27
Speaker
I mean, especially considering we were able to break through the front line regularly on run plays. I will say, I think you have in here mentioning some bad snaps. There were absolutely some bad snaps. Thank God that we have a quarterback as athletic and like, as presence of mind. Yeah. They mentioned in the game cast, they were talking about how Justin Fields used to be a baseball player.
00:19:52
Speaker
And so yeah, I think if he if he maybe if he hadn't been or if he what yeah Like you're saying if he didn't have the athleticism or presence of mind Yeah, some of those were I mean several of those were gonna fly right over his head. Oh, absolutely Regularly pretty regularly had to reach up to go and catch the snap which I mean any quarterback shorter Yeah, yeah, he's like half the quarterbacks in the fuck Yeah
00:20:17
Speaker
But, you know, and that have and I think that is also due to wasn't it? It was Lucas Patrick, right? That went out. Yeah. So Patrick got injured and went out and then Cody White here stepped in. Right. And White here is not our not our primary center for a reason. It seems like. Yeah.
00:20:35
Speaker
good backup as far as protection is concerned, not a great backup as far as like actual snap, at least not like under center snaps. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the other thing is Fields head is on a swivel sometimes when those balls were coming out. Yeah. And still being able to snag that out of the air like a catcher, basically. Yeah. Just like literally he made it look like it was no, no big deal. Yeah. Yeah. That I think instilled a little bit of confidence in me. Right. And as a fan watching the game, I wasn't like, Oh, fuck. Like, yeah.
00:21:04
Speaker
Absolutely. I did not. I really didn't worry and it was so quick. Didn't make you panic. Yeah, but it was absolutely there were a few of them, right? It was not just one. It was regular. That's the thing. Yeah, it was regular, but But great protection. Yeah, great protection. Yeah. I mean, like we said, he stepped in in the position that he's not getting paid to, you know, shotgun snap. So yeah, it's not I don't think it's it's too big of a deal. Hopefully Lucas Patrick can come back well and get us some more consistent snaps.
00:21:34
Speaker
Again, inconsistency, right? And last year we dealt with so many injuries left and right. It was one guy would come back. Two more would go down. It was really bad. This year, I feel like so far though, it's been a little more, I mean, despite the early Tevin Jenkins injury and last week, I feel like it hasn't been as bad as it was last year.
00:21:52
Speaker
I mean, we're five games in and we've had, you know, Darnell right in the same position the whole time. So yeah, who was I mean, dude, he's he's showing to be I think he's going to be a really valuable asset. Oh, absolutely. Again, he's been doing great. I mean, you know, I think we discussed that last week was, you know, he he missed a couple of key blocks, right? He walks on plays that made that were true, like game defining plays all in all like
00:22:19
Speaker
He's executing and doing his job very, very well at an extremely high level, especially for a rookie. Yeah. And the mistakes he does make, I think are rookie mistakes. And they're ones that I don't think are going to be a regular day for him. Things that are coachable, things that I think he absolutely, you can see that he's putting in the effort. He's putting in the work. Yeah. Huge shout out to him. I definitely don't think we're in as bad of a position when it comes to the front line as we were this time last year. Yeah.
00:22:48
Speaker
Well, and I think that also if we take a look at, you take a look at Fields' numbers in the first five weeks, right? Like, yeah, we can easily go through in the first few games and be like, this is fucking garbage, but actually look at the first five weeks collectively, holistically.
00:23:05
Speaker
Which at the end of every season is really all that matters, right? We're gonna look at the collected the whole as a whole picture. Yeah, so it's But he slid into the top five in touchdowns in week five. Mm-hmm Right. He's got 11 passing touchdowns 1,143 yards passing and
00:23:23
Speaker
It doesn't include any of his rush stuff. But, you know, Kirk Cousins is sitting at number one with 13 and then the next four all have 11 with Josh Allen, Justin Fields, Tua, and Russell Wilson.
00:23:39
Speaker
Yeah, which other than Russell Wilson, I think those are some pretty elite. Those guys are pretty regularly mentioned quarterback, you know, if anything, I think that also goes to show that like Wilson still can execute his job. Yeah, I was above average. That was my thing. Yeah, he's an above average court superstar anymore. And I'm not gonna certainly above average quarterback. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie to because I was going into today.
00:24:03
Speaker
I was thinking about how you had said that last week and I was thinking, I guess I was going to bring it up and be like, are we sure that he's above average? And then I saw I was looking at the stats and I was like, no, that was right. Despite the wins not coming for them, I think he does still show himself to be an above average quarterback.
00:24:26
Speaker
But yeah, I was fully ready to come at you and I was like, no, I won't come correct on this one. And he's right. Yeah. And I think you ended up being right. He's getting shit on left and right when it comes to like media coverage, especially when you see the stuff going on with like him and Sean Payton. And like, it's very frustrating endeavor right now for sure. When I think about my statement, like he's still above average quarterback. Yeah. Yeah. I think we can move into the second half now, no? You think?
00:24:53
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think obviously that was long story short, just pointing out that the offensive line is doing fairly well and collectively as a unit. Yeah, doing good. And not just that, but Justin Fields is also
00:25:06
Speaker
I think that that's something to really look at in this game if you want to do like overall vibe check between first and second half. Both games, right? Looking at the Broncos game and this game, that first three and a half quarters of the Broncos game, right? Where he looked comfortable. He was making it through his progressions better. But as soon as he isn't, you can see it. You can always tell when there's that extra like tenth
00:25:34
Speaker
Yeah, even if it's just the 10th you can tell when you said it immediately then you can tell and so I think it was became very
00:25:42
Speaker
very aware in the Brown Coast game when that took place. And I started seeing that just a tiny bit in this one, enough for me to be like, God damn it, he's hesitating. Yeah. So going into that second half. And I think it's a good point by you, too, that I think if we step back and take a look holistically, I think the O-line and Justin Fields, both, and our receiving corps,
00:26:07
Speaker
Even though our record might not be what we want it to be or even close to what we thought it was going to be at this point, I do think there is still like improvement and success comparatively. And I think, I mean, I'm right now, we may see if we can keep it rolling, but I think it's worth being hopeful about, you know. Well, shit, three of the top five quarterbacks we just talked about.
00:26:28
Speaker
I mean, the top quarterback has the same record that we have. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, yeah. And then Russell Wilson, like we all know the Broncos record too. Yeah. Yeah. I think two is the only one that's really having a consistently good time out of, you know, as far as win records. Yeah.
00:26:51
Speaker
They also have fucking Christian McCaffrey They look they are for sure the team to be right now, yeah
00:27:02
Speaker
Yeah, so second second half second half that third quarter Do you feel like sorry I was gonna say do you when do you feel like you started to see that in Justin Fields hesitation? Do you think like early third quarter or like late third quarter or around? Well, I don't remember I saw the hesitation from him until later in the third quarter almost going into the fourth and I I feel like it was more because We started to stall out
00:27:28
Speaker
and that that TD for the commanders and then you know they they came out and marched down the field like it was fucking oh it was crazy it felt like they were just they couldn't be stopped nope yeah it literally looked like a different team yeah it looked like they kicked up a gear and they were like oh no we were just fucking yeah it was like i for a split second in my head i was like
00:27:50
Speaker
Are they good enough to really to do that? Yeah, just like demoralize the bears even further following that game against the day where you're spiraling man, you're spiraling And like and I hadn't had any substances what yeah That was me just sober a shit. Yeah, the bears will do that to you So
00:28:17
Speaker
But especially when they went for that two point conversion. Oh, dude. I mean, that just look easy for the two point conversion. It really felt like, oh, shit, they are here to play now. Like they are up and awake and they are pissed. Like how looked like he was dialed in. Oh, yeah. Like whatever was said to him in the locker room at halftime, whatever was done that he
00:28:38
Speaker
You could tell that he maintained his level-headedness for the most part, even through the first half when they were getting shit stomped. And he threw a pick, but he kept his composure. I was thoroughly impressed with how I'm interested to see what he turns into in the next couple of years
Sam Howell's Resilience
00:28:55
Speaker
with right coaching.
00:28:55
Speaker
Yeah, me too. And yeah, I think that that's, uh, I think he, I could see him having a bright future with the commanders, especially by, I mean, that organization has struggled almost as much as the bears have to find the, you know, a good, a good, to find a good friend office. Just find a good, Hey, coach. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I think, uh, I mean, how old shown, I mean, he's got some, he's got some talent there for sure.
00:29:20
Speaker
So in that moment between when we were stalling out on offense and when the defense was starting to ramp up was where I saw Fields look hesitant again. And I think it was because the run game wasn't doing as much, right? We had Herbert go out on that weird.
00:29:41
Speaker
that weird back that he had to do, which is a little bit on fields, just under through them. And for sure. I mean, I think fields put it where he needed to, to keep it away from the defender on the front side, but he could have put it a little, but also that's, I mean, not so much to, you know, to bash on him, but I also think it's like Herbert, you can just let that go, buddy. Like I love the effort, love the, you know, the dog mentality of like, let me try and get this ball. But some of them, you can let that one go, my guy.
00:30:09
Speaker
But yeah, once that happened and the run game stalled out even further, I felt like when the pass was called, Fields was hesitating because he was like, I don't know if maybe he was thinking like, oh, shit, I have to make this count. Yeah. Because because the run game is not working now, you know. And so I don't know if that extra pressure to play hero balls, putting something on him again. Exactly. Exactly. Which ultimately doesn't work for him. Right. That's that's not well enough for us to win. I think the extra tension is in his arm.
00:30:40
Speaker
And his throws are slightly off or he hesitations that extra 10th of the second. Or he scrambles when there's something open for him. I think he can still do that too. Right. And it's like, I would rather have him do that. I'd rather have him scramble and pick up something with his legs, then tighten up and throw a bad pass.
00:31:00
Speaker
He has got to work on his, his throat. They're getting a little better. Like there's a couple of times we're like, okay, good, good. Throw away or whatever. But yeah, it's not there yet. Yeah. Oh yeah. That we lucked out. That definitely went our way that he was like, yeah. And the commander's fans were pissed about it. You did see, you did see the, the more TD that when he, he got that breakaway and they called him out. Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:29
Speaker
Yeah, you know that, you know, he wasn't out about it. I saw, I mean, it didn't look like it. I did see one for, I saw a frame where I was like, I could see, it looks like he did kind of step, but I don't know. Did you see something where it was like, he definitely didn't. Yeah. No, like the official, like from.
00:31:44
Speaker
they released like a thing that was like, yeah, the officials missed this. So, I mean, he potentially could have had five touchdowns had that one. Oh, yeah. Did you see him after too? Like they pull him out and he's like, oh, he's like jumping up and down. He's like, come on, look, I had that.
00:32:03
Speaker
Yeah, some of the guys that were up in the press box, they didn't have audio. So they were like, what the hell is happening? Because he was jumping around, and so they all whipping out their bananas and just trying to figure out like- Is he hurt? Did someone piss him off? Yeah. Yeah. They were like, what is going on right now? Because he started jumping up and down like that.
00:32:21
Speaker
Because they thought from their point of view, too, they were like, no fucking way. Yeah, it was a very. No, I was wondering about that. But they. But so he could have had that and then that that one wide open that fields just. Over through them. Just. Yeah. Right. Like even laying out. You got that ball like it's just this much like. So he could have five touchdowns. So. And I think he would have beaten out on Jeffery's record.
00:32:49
Speaker
if they had not called him out of bounds on that one. But ultimately, it doesn't matter. They still went out and executed. They still went out and they were able to... And I think that was the fun part there was watching Fields sort of click it back in. Yeah, and watching him trust more. And I think that connection being what we... That connection becoming what we wanted it to be at the beginning of the season. It's great seeing that happen now.
00:33:18
Speaker
As opposed to not at all. Right. I think a piece of that of him settling down again also had to do with the bears recovering that fumble. I think that that gave him a bit of a breather of like a, okay. We got to take away. This is not a complete repeat of last week again.
00:33:42
Speaker
Not even last week of, um, and being able to get it going again there at the end of the third, right? And get the offense moving, but then I think also having blazzing game come in and like.
00:34:06
Speaker
executing in, I mean, we have our fullback coming in as our hat. Yeah, I mean, yeah, like I said, scraping the bottom of the barrel here in our depth, you know, in our roster. Yeah. And like, no, no disrespect whatsoever to blossom game by like, you know, bottom of the barrel. But like, as far as that position, he's not getting paid. He's not getting paid to run the ball, you know?
00:34:25
Speaker
from from that he's a block yeah he was down there blocking for fucking king henry like he is a blocker and a great one and and honestly it was yeah dude he was putting good effort and yeah he's like this is my chance yeah i think they said uh i mean i think that's the thing that really
00:34:45
Speaker
When he started carrying the ball, it was his third career ever, or his third career carry in the NFL, when they started running him. He had more than twice as many carries in this game as he has in his entire career. However long he's been in. At the professional level, right? I know he carried something in college, but, you know, so I mean, he's got that, you know, and has a fullback. Yeah, it's just not what he gets paid to do. He's a homemaker.
00:35:14
Speaker
Yeah. But I think that that was something that we saw from across the board, not just receivers, but running backs. And, you know, even even coming down with blossom game and having
00:35:29
Speaker
It was the yards after contact, like he'd get hit at the line. Keep going. Yeah, dude. Yeah. And it was just, he made him look easy. Like it didn't look like he was struggling real, real hard. It's like he was falling forward. Yeah.
00:35:47
Speaker
Yeah, I think that was team wide too. I felt like everyone was doing really good about yards after catch. DJ Moore had really good yards after catch in contact. I mean, we know that's his bread and butter, but it was still commit to. Even Herbert, I think that was great to watch. So I think that this was fun to see fields not only show consistency in
00:36:11
Speaker
in like being able to come out and dominate a first half, but also still produce in the second half. And this time, as opposed to against the Broncos, this time not panicking, not falling into old ways.
Bears' Defensive Depth
00:36:27
Speaker
But like for a moment he did, but he was able to pull himself back out of that and go, hey, focus the fuck up. Yeah. Let's get this done. And it was great to watch him be able to go.
00:36:37
Speaker
Yeah, no. Yeah, absolutely. It's great to watch him do that. Finish and complete a game like you're saying. Yeah. And lead. And it was great to see the team do it as a whole. You know, you could see it across the board. We talked about, you know, blossom game stepping in. We talked about, you know, some of the other receivers stepping up. But then on the defensive side of the ball, a lot of these guys that are not starters, they aren't, you know, they're young guys. Some are rookies. Again, we dealt with this last year, right?
00:37:04
Speaker
got first and second year players coming out and having to step in and they absolutely did. I mean, you had people come in and make game changing plays who there was no way in hell that they were going to be starting. You know what I mean? Like that's not, that they were coming in and they're like, fuck it, let's do it. And props to Iberfluis for trusting
00:37:27
Speaker
the team to and those guys that were stepping up to execute, you know, and putting them in a position to attempt to be successful, right? He gave them a shot. He could have played it safe. He absolutely could have played safe and just done zone everything and, you know, no pressure, no blitzes, no not like just
00:37:45
Speaker
trying to stop the bleeding more than anything, but he didn't. If anything, he fucking hit the noss and was like, let's do it. Yeah, great. Yeah. So then after the after like you were saying, after Justin Fields and the offense were able to pull themselves back and kind of get it back together.
00:38:06
Speaker
Um, in the fourth quarter, the commanders were able to have a good, I think fourth quarter push that gave us those flashbacks of, of a week for week four. Um, but ultimately they had a good drive, but then they ended up trying to go for a field goal that they missed. And I felt like after that field goal, it kind of felt like, all right, we're all right. We're going to be okay. Um, and even then, even though we were, I think, all right. And we were still ahead and the game was pretty much ours. We had one final fields to more pass. That was a great.
00:38:36
Speaker
What do you think? Do you think you know which pass I'm talking about? It was the final pass. Justin Fields drops back. He passes it to Moore. And the defender tries to jump the pass. He tries to jump the ball. Yeah, for sure. It was a risky move on the cornerback's part. He was going for a game-changing play. You know what I mean? And he damn near got it. Respect to him. It literally looked like it nicked his finger. Yeah, he got it. It looked like he was touching it. Yeah.
00:39:04
Speaker
Um, and I more look shocked by the fact that he actually had the fucking ball. He was like, Oh, shit. Like stop for a second. And then he was like, Oh, let me get going. Yeah. Um, no, I, I don't think we got a little lucky or no. I think it was precision. I think fields put the ball where he needs to. Absolutely. He was consistent with that for the most part throughout the game, for the most part, and not just throughout this game, but through the Denver game as well. So the consistency precision for him is not something I'm all that concerned with all the time.
00:39:34
Speaker
choice making is more like as far as quick decision making his Precision of where he wants to put the ball and does it go there is usually pretty good
00:39:45
Speaker
He's putting it exactly where he is deciding to put it. Is that decision the correct way to say it based on where it is? For this one note, I think the precision was good and I think he made a good decision of the type of ball to throw as well to get it just up, just in case. I think that he was playing that of, I need to give it a little extra loft.
00:40:07
Speaker
just in case you tries to go up to get this. So, yep. And it worked out. And it worked out. Last of the last of the three touchdowns for more. Yeah, it was good. I would do it. I was getting so worked up after that touchdown too, because it was
00:40:22
Speaker
they all go into the end zone and they're all going crazy and then it's just like it's like fields and more like a couple other guys and they're all just standing around more just being like let's go yeah counting one two three and fields it's just like standing there's like come on man like come on it was just so fun dude it's so exciting winning a game is fun you know winning football games is fun
00:40:44
Speaker
Yeah, at the end there too, I don't know if you heard the let's go Bears chants
Justin Fields' Growth
00:40:48
Speaker
at Washington. That was great too. Love it. Any final thoughts on the game that you wanted to bring up? I mean, final thoughts. I think for me the big thing is it was great to get a win. It was great to get a win on the road.
00:41:06
Speaker
It was great to get a win on the road against a team that I don't believe is one of the, like, they're not one of the worst teams. They're not one of the best teams, but I'd say they're low end mediocre, you know? So having won against, if we had won against Denver, I think that would have been like,
00:41:29
Speaker
But what does that really mean? Whereas with the commanders, I felt like, you know, and the consistency from one game to the next, I think that that is showing that being able to have something there. And I do believe that fields can be successful. Now, again, I stand by what I've said that I don't I don't necessarily know if it's going to be with the Bears or not. You know, sure. I think he has what it takes to be successful and he's done a great job.
00:41:58
Speaker
in back-to-back weeks, not just back-to-back weeks, but on short week, right? I think they made a really good decision. They did not go through game film from Denver. And that's a choice, right? You could sit there and burn time or you can shift gears and just go, what worked? Let's build on that. Let's do that again. And eventually it's going to click, right? And I think that the short week worked in our favor this week. So, you know, one of the thoughts was,
00:42:28
Speaker
you know was it was it us winning or was it them losing you know uh is it due to soft coverage that we were able to kind of do what we did um no i think it was a combination of the two this was it is a game right this is a this was a good game it was it was good even when we started like having that
00:42:48
Speaker
Oh shit, not again moment. Yeah. From the game of football, it was fun and it was good. You could see the talent out there and you could see two teams that, like you said, are struggling, are struggling to find their identity, I think, in this modern era of football and establish themselves to be
00:43:15
Speaker
at the very least competitive, competitively, but also to matter, to be relevant. Yeah. And I think that that you, you got to see that with these two teams. And honestly, it was, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it more than the Denver game from a football perspective. Like all in all, I was happy with it. I think, I think there are definitely some areas I'd like to see Edmonds and Edwards being far more
00:43:42
Speaker
on the defensive side of the ball with the next game, I'd love to see them be more aggressive, less reactionary. And that's the thing that I think you can look through there, like historically, even they've always been more reactionary players, even on their old and not. Yeah. You know, when you look at it, they are a especially when it comes to like coverage.
00:44:05
Speaker
They're both, you know, obviously good with the run game. Yeah. But when it comes to coverage in like a pass pass type situation, they're much more of like a.
00:44:17
Speaker
let the guy catch the ball and then tackle it. And then I'll come catch it. As opposed to anticipating and making a play on the ball. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but in certain schemes, you can't have your entire linebacker squad. You can't have your entire linebacker squad.
00:44:37
Speaker
like your front of your front seven, five of you can't be acting that way. Like that's right. Right. We need some guys that are a little more anticipatory and a little more have that instinct to them. Yeah. Right. Of. Yeah. Of. Fuck it. Taking a shot and trying to jump the ball.
00:44:53
Speaker
Yeah, so yeah, and I think that's where the commanders had a lot of success against us was Exploiting that reactionary attitude because I do think that was a lot of You know, it was a lot of that's absolutely what allowed on the field in that third quarter Yeah, that's what that was where that was what got them success. I think um It was frustrating to watch too. I was getting so pissed like
00:45:18
Speaker
Sam how it could just pass wherever you wanted and get a completion and then you know, just chip away at the field, you know and march down Do you want to talk about a Jaquan Brisker a little or no? I just because we had that moment where we were both just like get your fucking hands down like oh, yeah I don't know. Have you seen anything from because I was seeing some some criticism of him overall this season. Oh, yeah, I mean He's not
00:45:43
Speaker
not for what we pay him. He's not a difference maker right now. I will say, I was getting fucking irritated every time that he was...
00:45:53
Speaker
like waving his hands up in the air. I was like, bitch, get back and stop a goddamn pass, and then we'll talk. Seriously. Like, stop it. Stop. You are literally, we are in a position that they are marching down the field doing whatever they want. But don't do that. And you're celebrating an incompletion that's on Sam Howell more than on, you know, get Sam Howell misthrowing than you stopping him. Or on someone else on the defense making a great coverage play. Like, that had nothing to do with you. Like, stop it.
00:46:22
Speaker
Was not a fan of that. No like get back and run the play like start doing your fucking job. No, I was celebrating when they're off the field Yeah, and he was doing it after every play. That was the oh, yeah Yeah, I was not a fan of that What are your thoughts on a profuse now, you know, like Mm-hmm. I was fucking get a different coach Right. Like I don't know. Yeah
00:46:47
Speaker
He's got a, I mean, I still, I've kind of shifted, uh, as far as I still am. I'm not in on Ibrufus. I still don't trust him. Uh, I think it's going to take a lot. It would take playoffs and even then, you know, I'm not sure I would want him back. Well, so here's the thing. I think I stand by earlier when I, you know, we looked at what are the outcomes for this season. What's our goal? So I said, I'd love to see eight and eight, right?
00:47:15
Speaker
So my thing is, I still need that eight and eight, but I also need to see more consistency in more than just two games back to back. I want to see what we're going to do. Honestly, we have a pretty good, the next five games are going to be a good decision on that, I think. Yeah, good. So how do you feel about Irufusan?
00:47:34
Speaker
i mean i know you're saying you would like to go eight and eight and stuff but then how do you feel even if we do go i say for him to stick around say for him to stick around because i'm still not bought in on him at all i'm still okay so we're on the same page done thus far he needs to show consistency and he needs to win games that matter yes yep games that are important that we should be winning yeah absolutely i mean which is like baseline but he
Questioning Coach Iberflus' Strategies
00:47:57
Speaker
should be winning winnable games
00:47:59
Speaker
The bar's on the floor, but yeah. Yeah. And also the games that we lose, I want us to be competitive and I don't want it to be us losing because we took our foot off the gas. If we can't do this every week, we can't get up 28 to three, 28 to seven. And then hope to stay ahead. And then hope to stay ahead. Fuck that. Put up another 28. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Just to be sure. Yeah. I'm with you.
00:48:25
Speaker
So I was wondering and feeling like, is this your fucking game? Is this your plan? Is this your game plan? You know, get aggressive, get ahead early on and then just hope to stay ahead. I fucking hope not. I also wanted to hit back real quick just because I was mentioning that my thoughts had shifted and they shifted in the sense of like just going back to Justin Fields where like I feel like if he can be consistent.
00:48:48
Speaker
I wouldn't mind seeing us continuing to try and build around him and get rid of the coaching staff that's around him.
00:48:59
Speaker
I'm sure you disagree with that and wouldn't want that. I don't know that I want that, but I wouldn't mind it because- Well, I think you have to discuss- Him showing what he's- You have to decide what is, what do you want the future to be? I sincerely hope that Eberfus is making the right call to Getzi of like, stop fucking around. Yeah.
00:49:19
Speaker
You know, holes better be in his ear, too, honestly. Absolutely. And like, look, you can't you can't put the full game and have first half exactly like the second half because, you know, people are going to adjust. So you need to be ready to make. I don't know. Do your. What are you doing? Just have a curiosity. Truly. Yeah. During halftime. Truly. You know, like. Yeah.
00:49:40
Speaker
I feel like that next level of thought that he's playing checkers while other people are playing chess. That's an issue. Yeah. And I think it's been evident. All right. Feels good to win. That's my final thought. It does. Feels good to win. And let's see how we can build on this. Winning football games is fun. All right. Isaac, you're doing all right over there, bud? Looks like the wound's still pretty fresh.
00:50:11
Speaker
Just to let you guys be behind the scenes a little bit here, we're recording on Monday and the package game ended not too long ago. Did they fucking lose? Of course they lost. No way. Are you serious? Yes. Yeah, they lost to the Raiders. I don't have the game on right now. Hang on. I don't have. I was speaking out of a bitch. Yeah, I'm not going to talk about it until we get into the
00:50:40
Speaker
Hey, let's get into it. Starting off, we're going to go with the Vikings and the Chiefs game. Did you guys get to catch that one? A little bit of it. It was Stein. You get to watch it.
00:50:52
Speaker
No, I went in and caught just a little bit here and there. Mostly because to me, I was not anticipating it being a great game. Dude, yeah, really? You didn't think it was going to be good? No. Why didn't you think the Vikings were going to? I thought the Vikings were going to just get dogged. Mostly because they don't have any defense right now.
00:51:13
Speaker
I just didn't think it was going to be all that competitive, so. Yeah. There are only so many games in a day I can watch. Are you sure? I think the score indicated, I don't think it was super, super close. And I think the score isn't as indicative. But I mean, it was still, I mean, the Vikings were still kind of in it for most of the game, I think. They were pretty matched, pretty evenly matched, like surprisingly, at least when you look at like the statistics.
00:51:37
Speaker
For passing yards, total yards, the Kansas City Chiefs had 333 yards and the Vikings had 329. And for both of them, most of those were passing yards. The Chiefs had 266 and the Vikings had 259. And then they both had super low rushing yards. The Vikings with 70 and the Chiefs with 67.
00:51:55
Speaker
Uh, so I just, I mean, I just thought that was really interesting that, that as far as like statistically and like passing wise, it seemed like the Vikings were able to keep up with, uh, with the chiefs, even with, I think, uh, I forget at which point, but what's his name? Jefferson. Um, was it pretty late. Okay. I mean, he was still held in check for most of the game, to be honest.
00:52:18
Speaker
Yeah, that chief secondary is fucking good, man. The chiefs are just really good. But yeah, I think they're aggressive. The defense held held. All right. I mean, they didn't get blown out. I felt like which I mean, like you said, I think you and I think most people expected the defense to just the Vikings defense to be in shambles and not be able to keep up.
00:52:37
Speaker
Not with the level of talent that Kansas City has. But I mean, the thing is the Vikings keep losing the turnover battles. I mean, the first play of scrimmage, they lost a fumble. I mean, you can't be doing that shit and then expecting to stay in games. Yeah, not against the Chiefs. The Chiefs will make you pay for that. Oh, for sure. You're just going to give up the ball.
00:52:58
Speaker
Yeah. Chiefs were pretty undisciplined this game though too, which maybe was part of what kept the Vikings close. That has been a very, I think that's been pretty consistent for them this season. From what I understand is like the chiefs are making dumb mistakes too and shooting themselves in the foot pretty regularly. So yeah. I mean, 10 penalties for 86 yards. They just had stagnant offensive drives. I mean, they kept chipping at it, but then they get a field goal. And I'm like, you can't expect to win field goals, like with field goals against Mahomes. Oh, 100%. That's not going to win you the game.
00:53:27
Speaker
Yeah, I mean they got to the red zone and they just failed to convert touchdowns Yeah, I don't know what it is. I mean last year They're able to do good in the red zone and like when those close games, but this year they just They're in the games, but they're just not able to convert it like they did last year like yeah last year's Vikings They had fighting them this year. They just kind of roll over sometimes hmm
00:53:50
Speaker
I wonder if they just rely maybe too much on Kirk Cousins to get him out of the finish for them, you know? I mean, their offense is sort of one dimensional at times. Yeah.
NFC North Teams' Struggles
00:54:00
Speaker
Especially when he's just force feeding. I mean, this game is different. I mean, he got Addison involved and stuff like that. But the past few games, he was just force feeding, Hawkinson and Jefferson. You can't really, can't do that.
00:54:12
Speaker
Outlook on Vikings. I mean their backs are kind of up against the wall at this point I mean, yeah, I don't think they are are at where they thought where anyone thought they would be at this. Yeah I mean as far as record people were expecting them to regress but not this bad I mean last year set up pretty big expectations for them this year and they're just not meeting anything Yeah, especially if Justin Jefferson is out next week. I think
00:54:35
Speaker
It'll be crazy too cuz I mean Kirk Cousins is still sitting pretty comfortably at the top of the league as far as quarterback the quarterback position Well, I think that he has to pass more because he's playing from behind so much, you know, I mean Always so he has to pass. Yes. He has to pass. However, again, he's in like
00:54:55
Speaker
anyone, any quarterback in that position would have to pass. He is able to execute his job. Could they do what he was... Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Howl through 51 passes against the Bears.
00:55:06
Speaker
51 passes. So the opportunity for passing is certainly there and he's in a position where he has to do to playing from behind. However, not every quarterback would be able to execute to the efficiency and for the yardage that he does. So him and his receivers can only do so much because like you said, they are very one dimensional. And the moment you do that, it's so easy to scheme against them. Take that away.
00:55:29
Speaker
So that's exactly what happened. I mean, their offense became stagnant after a little bit. I mean, I think couldn't convert. Not much has changed in their place game from last year to this year. So people have tons of film, a full season worth of film of them doing that, that they're able to go against that now, you know, like so, especially now that they don't have a fucking run game. So that immediately puts them in this position of.
00:55:57
Speaker
maybe they are easier to defend and that's why they're not. That's why they're not being able to get away with those close games anymore.
00:56:06
Speaker
Yeah, a lot of film on them and a lot of film on them. Like, what are they going to do in those situations at the end game? Yep. What are they going to revert to? What did they do to us this time last year? Yeah. Yeah. No, 100 percent. So, yeah, I mean, the Chiefs go on to have a great I mean, they're just crazy, man. They're just rolling. Vikings are struggling. Like you said, get back against the wall. So I think that wraps up the Vikings. So we're going to move on to the Lions.
00:56:33
Speaker
played the Panthers and fucked them up. The Panthers for sure are trying to throw the season, right? That's what's happening for you guys. As much as we were trying to throw it last year, you know? Honestly, God, I feel bad for young.
00:56:53
Speaker
Yeah, he's getting thrown to the wolves, man. Oh, shit. It looks. Still makes me miss Montgomery, man. He was. Hell of a game again. He's nuts. I love him. He's great. Detroit has scored at least 27 points in consecutive first half for the first time in franchise history and top 20 points in a team hide record 14th game in a row, even though they were missing. I'm in Ross State Brown and the running back Gibbs, Jameer Gibbs.
00:57:22
Speaker
Wow. It's not like they fucking use Gibbs anyways. That's true. I mean, yeah, Montgomery's doing fine. Like that's completely different back to than Gibbs. Absolutely. Two very different styles. The Lions are just cruising. I mean, the Panthers gave up three first half turnovers and the Lions converted them all to touchdowns. I mean,
00:57:42
Speaker
When you can, when you can execute like a fumble, right? Wasn't that, uh, I think so. Yeah. Did you see that Hutchinson interception? It looks like a fucking handoff. Young just reached out and handed them off. It looks so fucking easy. Yeah.
00:58:03
Speaker
That dude is fun to watch. I'm not excited to go against him twice a year for the next however long. God, no. God, no. The passing yards are pretty similar between them, between the Panthers and the Lions. Actually, the Panthers had more, 243 to the Lions, 218. You also look at the score big, they had to be. They had to be trying to see, yeah. Young was throwing nonstop because they were playing from not just behind,
00:58:32
Speaker
way behind. Right. What was the time of possession? It was about half. So give me a second here. Yeah. Twenty eight forty five for the Panthers. Thirty one fifteen for the Lions. Yeah. Not not terrible time of possession, but I think that also because the Lions chewed up clock with running it. They scored so quickly with other shit that they like. Well, I was thinking that the Lions with the short fields and stuff like that wouldn't have that much of time of possession.
00:58:59
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. No, that's what I mean, though. Like, like they scored so quickly. And then when they did get that next portion, they were like absolutely game managing that clock like a motherfucker. They are they are so much fun. They remind me of the bills from like a couple of years back where they really started like kicking off. And I'm like, the Lions are for sure a team that can be competitive. They're a force, man. I still think the Niners are the team.
00:59:24
Speaker
And oh for sure. Oh easy. Yeah, but I could easily see the Lions being like a number two three seed like When the thing to I feel like with the Lions this I mean this looks sustainable, too Yeah, I mean it's been a slow gradual, right? Yeah, and I don't think it's gonna be a regression a huge aggression anytime soon, right?
00:59:44
Speaker
And I think it's an organizational piece for them too, right? They've made all the right moves at the organizational level, bringing in the coaches, bringing in all the supportive staff, building out this roster. They've truly turned that organization around a bit. It's fun to see what they're evolving into. Yeah, definitely cool to watch.
01:00:05
Speaker
Yeah, I mean this is this is their division for good for right now Yeah, yeah All right, all right anymore anything else or should we
01:00:17
Speaker
Yeah. So my Instagram is you can leave us to cover the packers. Go off, buddy, go off. So the packers just finished playing the Raiders. Lovely. This is yours, man. You're the cheese head. I got it. Let me, I'm gonna, I got to pull up some stats on this shit. Cause I, that is just Jordan love on passes over five yards.
01:00:48
Speaker
Three of 11 and three interceptions. Over five yards. Whoa. Holy shit. Not even Mitch Trubisky was... Mitch at least had 10. 10 yards. Damn, bro. You know what? I wonder if the Raiders are like...
01:01:06
Speaker
They got, they did get like donkey punched by the Chargers last week. So I wonder if they were coming. They're just by something to prove right now because chip on their shoulder. No, because McDaniel's didn't even call a good game. I mean, he almost pissed away the game. If love could have converted that last drive because I mean,
01:01:23
Speaker
They had a fourth and one in their own territory that they easily could have converted. I mean, we're fucking fourth and short revolving door. Like you can get anything in shortened, like in gotta have it situations with short distances against us. And they went and went for the field goal and he, he just missed, which he's never missed in Vegas before. And he just happened to miss. And so we had a chance and yeah.
01:01:52
Speaker
It's best of the three. Yeah. So who, which of them had money on it then? Oh, that's my, what was the spread on this? Cause I wonder, did they cover Vegas negative two? Yeah. They covered. Yeah. Vegas was favored by two or three. I think it was two though.
01:02:11
Speaker
But yeah, I just, that was probably the worst I've seen the offense perform this year. I mean, yeah, super stagnant. I mean, there's no identity. They don't know what the fuck they want to do. I mean, we had a, we had a third down where we had a screen to our third string halfback, like get the fuck out of here. Like that's not going to do anything.
01:02:32
Speaker
Just reading through your stats, it looks so much like neither team wanted to win. That's what I'm saying. It was ugly. It was ugly all the way through. Like, okay, so first down, it's Green Bay 18, Raiders 19. Total plays, Green Bay 57, Raiders 64, each had 11 drives.
01:02:53
Speaker
total yards, 285 for green bay, 279 for the Raiders. Like we had hazard yards per play too. Yeah. Yards per play five yards on the, on green bay 4.4 on the Raiders. Like it's not, it's not like they came out and
01:03:10
Speaker
The turnovers is the issue, dude. Right? I mean, I mean, yeah, that's each team was like, no, you take it. No, you take it. No, you take it. No, please. I insist. They were having a mid off the entire fucking game. It was insane. Jordan Love went 16 for 30. Yeah.
01:03:27
Speaker
Which isn't bad. I mean, that's that's terrible, but that's been normal for him. Like he went like 15 of 27 against the Bears and shit like that. Like he's been having these low percentage games, but the three interceptions like the turnovers is what got him. Otherwise, this was like a very.
01:03:43
Speaker
God, that is a mid game. Well, I mean, the third interception was the last play of the game. So it didn't really convert just like a gun for it. I think. Yeah, it shouldn't have been a fucking go for it thing. We had two back to back plays that were dropped by Dobbs and Musgraves. It was third and 10.
01:04:00
Speaker
And Max Crosby is just bitching our O-line all fucking game. He had four tackle for losses. He was just fucking cooking our line. And then third and 10, it's obviously four down territory. We're down by four points. You can't go for a field goal. He had a lane in front of him, just fucking take it, at least slide or something, make it fourth and manageable. But
01:04:22
Speaker
He, he saw Watson was open and then the corner recovered and the corner pushed Watson pretty heavily out of the way, but we shouldn't have been in that position anyway. So I'm not going to bitch about the reffing or anything like that. You know, it's just, they don't know what the fuck they want to do. I mean, the first drive we ran with AJ Dillon. Hmm.
01:04:48
Speaker
Well, your defense had four sacks, eight tackles for loss. Theirs had two sacks and five tackles for the loss. I mean, our defense played decent. Your defense kept you in the game for sure.
01:05:02
Speaker
But again, it was it was like the offenses were like no you My friend my friend is a Raiders fan and he sent me a picture where it was like It was like a Instagram graphic where it was like Jair Alexander versus Devonta Adams who's gonna win and shit like that The top comment was Jair on Adams. Did you forget Joe Barry's defensive coordinator? It'll be Preston Smith on Adams. I Kid you fucking not
01:05:31
Speaker
Preston Smith was lined up in man coverage against Devonta Adams and Devonta Adams had like a 20 yard slant. Jesus, what are you doing? But yeah, so I mean, our first drive, we had AJ Dillon and we weren't like getting chunk plays or anything, but we were, we were cutting away at it. I mean, we were getting what we needed to get.
01:05:58
Speaker
And then we just stopped. We just started getting cute with it and did like a Watson go around or end around that ended in like a negative five yards. And I'm just like, you just killed your entire momentum with that shit. Like trying to like get cute with it. Instead of just sticking to what's working. Yeah. I mean, at least have the defense stop your simple shit and then start, you know, spicing it up. What's going on with Matt Lefoure, dude? What's happening?
01:06:26
Speaker
All off season, I was like hyped because we were like, oh, we get to see this, you know, scheme that he's going to implement and shit like that. And then he's going to be in full control and get them out of control. Like, I'm tired of seeing this. I mean, yeah, I guess now we're seeing why him and Rogers, but had all heads all the time. I'm sure Roger is just being like, this is fucking stupid. That's not what we're doing. You know, just call something else, you know, he masked a lot of issues. I mean, yeah, he's would be like a Hall of Fame quarterback. Usually that would, you know, he was able to push it out of his ass and make it work.
01:06:55
Speaker
Yeah, but yeah, I don't We have a much-needed bye week if only he could pull out a new foot a new tendon That's the one thing he can't provide doesn't matter how far up you reach you're not gonna find an Achilles up there, buddy I Mean we have a bye week now so at least we can
01:07:20
Speaker
Rest and reset hopefully guys, but I mean we had we played Thursday night last week and we played Monday today And if that's what we fucking look like with rest, I don't We're gonna put up a donut. Maybe you need a show. Yeah, maybe you guys could use a short week. It's It's tough. Yeah, the offense just looks ugly man, and there's no
01:07:42
Speaker
Consistency clicking no consistency no identity. There is no passion. There is no aggression. There is no that's what it is. I mean I could blame Like injuries and shit too, but I'm like we had this shit. We should have won like we should have been able to win Yeah, I mean it was it what a three-point game. It's not like you guys got this. I mean we lost point game
01:08:06
Speaker
early on and Darnell Savage and shit, but it didn't matter. We should have won, but yeah, Max Crosby fucking insane. He was just, he was off the line so quick every time and just destroying our line. Maybe he finally picked up some tactics after getting their shit rocked last week. I would assume so. Old 50 deuce with his six fucking sacks and 10 tackles for loss and two forced fumbles. Yeah.
01:08:35
Speaker
yeah it's rubbed off on some of the other players i guess first thing he said when he got when they went to interview him was you know uh you know god is good i was like fuck that you're good
01:08:54
Speaker
That's funny, I mean that's well as much as I would love to sit in this I Mean not good Packers are not on a good trajectory. Yeah, it's so funny. It's it's lions and then
01:09:09
Speaker
Drop off dude. Yeah, no, actually it's well, isn't that kind of what we said earlier though? It was kind of like that When we were going off in the beginning of the season of like, what does the NFC North look like? What is the outlook here? It was like honestly the Lions are the ones that I think
01:09:25
Speaker
We all were like, they sort of holistically have the best team around. And then the rest of us should kind of fall in line depending on that. I don't think any of us could have expected the Bears to be as bad as what we've turned out to be. Or the Vikings. Or the Vikings, yeah. Especially not the Vikings. I really thought the Vikings would be like
01:09:43
Speaker
Number two. Yeah. And then I would not have been surprised if we were last, but not by not in the way that we are. Yeah. Yeah. However, it's still wide open for the rest of us as far as that. Yeah.
Upcoming Games and Challenges
01:09:57
Speaker
Second, you know, so it's yeah, it'd be interesting. It's still really early in the season. It's so. And I think that's what's so interesting, not just for the NFT North, but around the league. We haven't even seen the Vikings or Detroit yet.
01:10:14
Speaker
Yeah. Good luck against Detroit. Yeah, no shit. That's our sixth game, right, on the schedule. We don't see them until...
01:10:23
Speaker
After Carolina, we don't see that we see Detroit Week 11, then back to the Vikings. Then we get our bi-week, then back to Detroit again. So I am not looking forward to that little like three and a half week stretch. At least you get. Montgomery's going to Montgomery's going to give us the biggest fucking mushroom stamp just right on the foreheads. The biggest volleyball. I would not be surprised if he had a career game against.
01:10:47
Speaker
back to back career games. And honestly, to which point I would say I don't blame him. You know, like, I would almost be like, all right, like, yeah, for sure. Or at least it's you, you know, it's like, yeah, it's something I'm familiar. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing that's so fucking crazy to me about the Lions offenses.
01:11:08
Speaker
I mean, did they did this shit without a Monra? I mean, they just are executing so good. Like, that's what it is. I mean, well, machines, it's not like they have any like insane world beaters. It's just they're winning. They're doing it. They know how to win, not execute. Did you watch 93 farv? Did I watch what? 93 farv, like 1993. Did I watch in 1993? Yeah. Well, yeah, but I was, you know, seven at the time, so.
01:11:36
Speaker
That's what it looks like right now. He's just gunslinging it with like no. No, no, no in the world or anyone else's lives. Yeah. Which I mean to I will say, though, Farve was gunslinging it his entire career. I was like, like when you when you his last his last like season two in Green Bay,
01:11:59
Speaker
when it looked especially as was it the second to last one that he was there that he set the record for like most sex or most like most hits most quarterback knockdown something like that where I mean he was getting rocked every fucking play but he was extending plays and he was making these stoop he was like I remember watching him run off to the right falling to the side and he should have been down and he fucking like flicked his wrist and went 70 yards and I was like what the fuck was that
01:12:30
Speaker
No one else you can do that. No one else is making that throw, especially not at 39 years old, like that just and then he went off and did his little ditty with the jets and then landed with, you know, the Vikings for that little stint where like they had fun up there for sure. That was a fun year to watch. Like those couple of years he was up in in Vikings land was I was like, oh, shit, like they're they're going to rock some people and they absolutely did. But.
01:13:00
Speaker
Isaac looking for any scrounge of hope right now. Jordan Love looks like 93. Oh, no, no. I'm not saying that as like, I'm just saying that because Brett Favre that year had 19 touchdowns, 24 interceptions. Oh, okay. I mean, they made it to divisional, but like. Yeah, that's on me then for not knowing the history of what that year was. Yeah. No, it was just more of like a shows that he's just fucking like slinging it like way more than Aaron ever did.
01:13:30
Speaker
Yeah But they can't connect on anything deep it's just it's Whenever I see him throw it deep at this point I'm just like what the fuck you doing because I know it's just gonna be a little bit Not even dude. I'm just like I'm disappointed in your head. Yeah Don't do that. You can't you know, you can't I know you can't Everyone knows he can't tell me that's a tough. Yeah it's
01:13:59
Speaker
There's going to be no changes made or anything like that, which I'm not expecting right now because it's weak. You know, five, but it's just. I knew there was going to be ups and downs, so I mean, I'm sticking to it, but it's this is a very low down right now. So I'm hoping we could. Hit something next next game against the Broncos or something.
01:14:23
Speaker
Get some kind of momentum going at least at least string together a few decent games But yeah, that's about it. That's all I got
01:14:34
Speaker
Tough when your quarterback can't have consistency past five yards. It's not a recipe for success. That's tough, dude. That's really tough. Um, but on that note, I think that'll wrap up the NFC North vibe check. I mean, we already covered Chicago, obviously extensively. So let's go into the week six preview week six. It is going to be the Chicago Bears versus the Minnesota Vikings at soldier field, NFC North standoff.
01:15:02
Speaker
Yep. Battle for who's going to be last in the NFC North. Both teams are 1 and 4 right now, as we touched on the 4. It is possible, I don't think they've confirmed yet, that Justin Jefferson is going to be out. He left the Vikings game as we mentioned before. Yeah. So we'll see. The Vikings have been struggling, as we already mentioned and talked about.
01:15:30
Speaker
I think even though they've been struggling though They've been had a good they've been doing good about keeping their offense rolling and scoring points But it looks like that is gonna make if Justin Jefferson is out. That's definitely gonna take a hit Their defense was I mean held somewhat against chief the Chiefs. I think more than most people expected it to So we'll see. I mean, I think it's gonna be a tough matchup I think the Bears are going into it with some momentum coming off of a win and I think Justin Fields is a
01:16:01
Speaker
We got a two game streak going of him looking confident and strong and making good decisions. We'll see if he can make it a three game streak and see if he can make this something that is regularly happening. But yeah, I mean, we also have our share of injuries, even though we have some people coming back. So definitely a winnable game, though, I think. I think it should be. I mean, we'll see. Should be a good game. The Vikings defense.
01:16:26
Speaker
held their own against the Chiefs for the most part. But I will also say that the game we had against the Chiefs. The reason we didn't hold our own against them was because we were. So complacent and there was absolutely no aggression whatsoever. The style of defense we've played in the last two games are very different than the style of defense we played against the Chiefs. So I'm excited to see what we are able to do and
01:16:56
Speaker
Our offense against the Chiefs was also very stale, right? Like the play calling was stupid. The designed run plays were almost non-existent.
01:17:09
Speaker
that has completely changed too. So I am excited to see what we can do against that Vikings defense, which is again, one of the weaker ones that we're going to that will face for the season. So yeah, our last game fields had 11 carries, which is good. So we can keep that going. He should be around 10 to 11 a game.
01:17:31
Speaker
Yeah. With most of them being designed plays, not on screen. Yeah. And that's great. Yep. So I think it is absolutely a winnable game. And I think if we were able to execute at that same level of aggression on both sides of the ball.
01:17:45
Speaker
Right. That's I think a key for us to take this victory against the Vikings is that we have to control both sides of the ball. That's going to be one up front on both sides. That offensive line needs to hold out. They need to continue opening the gap. We need to continue having success with the run in order to establish, you know, we do that and all of a sudden defenses are having to second guess what we're going to do.
01:18:12
Speaker
And then also on the defensive side of the ball needing, we got to make the stops. We have to have the coverage, you know, be a, we need to bring some, some heat. We can't fully rely on the front four, whereas on the flip side, like the front four also need to be able to provide some pressure themselves. So I think they did a good job of that last week. Better. They did a better job. Um, but even they did the best job when they.
01:18:41
Speaker
They have like two moves. That's the problem. And so, you know, we don't have, we don't have game changers on the front line. As long as everybody comes in and they're playing, just get like that Kaizen approach, right? 1% better, 1% better than the last one. I think that we are moving in the right direction.
01:19:02
Speaker
Um, yeah, I think we're positioned well for this, for this game. I think we're, I think, uh, our front four, I think everyone, I think all of our players are positioned to have a good game and try things this game. Uh, any final thoughts? I'm excited. I'm excited for the next game. I mean,
01:19:27
Speaker
Uh, I hope we continue this trend. I want to see a third consistency, a third game of consistency here. Um, now we win this and all of a sudden we're one-on-one the division with the Packers. Yeah. You know, like that's important. That is absolutely important. So if we make them go, Oh, and one and we're one-on-one and the Packers are one-on-one we're tied for second.
01:19:51
Speaker
firmly tied firmly tied for second place. Yeah. Yeah. Against our arguably rival. Yeah. So all of a sudden, like shit gets real and looking at holistically from the team's perspective, if we continued on this upward trend, people get healthy on the defensive side of the ball. We I think competitively, we are the ones that could
01:20:19
Speaker
Give up the biggest fight to the lions, competitively, if we can continue this trend. And all due to fields, right? And his ability to extend plays and spread the field and keep them on their heels. And be himself, yeah. Exactly.
01:20:37
Speaker
Yeah, I think it definitely felt like the sky was falling for a minute there. But I think after this, and I think if we can continue and build off of this, I think, I mean, this season isn't a scratch yet. So a lot of questions left to be answered, a lot of football left to play.
01:20:55
Speaker
Absolutely. Yeah. Not over yet. Final thoughts? Not even close. I mean, that's just the main thing for me, man. I mean, like you're saying, those are great points, you know, that this could, we could put the Vikings firmly in last place for the division. The Packers seem to be pissing it down their leg and not really know what's going on this early this season. Well, and it would only be right that we share that same bed, right? We both get one and one. It only makes sense that we both.
01:21:20
Speaker
Piss down our own legs. Yeah
Final Thoughts and Promotions
01:21:22
Speaker
But yeah, I mean I think it's important I think it's important not just for divisional but I think it's important just for building momentum and for you know continuing to build up Justin not just Justin Fields, but I think the rest of the offense as a whole their confidence and Yeah, and to hopefully get this defense feeling a little more confident and playing together and flying around having fun, you know
01:21:44
Speaker
So because the only one that seems to be having fun right now is Jaquan Brisker When everyone else when someone else makes a good play, so hopefully we can get the rest of the defense involved there Yeah, but uh yeah, I think that's it so time we got for the people
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01:24:37
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