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Episode 18: THE LOST EPISODE
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Week fourteen of the NFL was a busy week for everyone, especially for one of the hosts of Da Bear Claw podcast. In this lost episode, with Stein out of commission, Omar and Isaac discuss the Bears' week fourteen win over the Detroit Lions. They also take a look at the how the rest of the division faired in their respective games during the NFC North vibe check. If you're hungry for some football talk and some memories of the when the Bears were still somewhat in the hunt for playoffs, give this episode a listen! Chin up and Bear Down.
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Transcript
Introduction and Updates
00:00:00
Speaker
And we're going. Hello and welcome to the Bear Claw podcast. I'm your host, Omar Delgado. Stein is unavailable this week. He is out having the time of his life just fucking seeing the sights, you know, doing the things that boys do when they're out and about with me, though, is our resident Packers fan, Isaac Turgeon.
00:00:30
Speaker
Yo, yo, yo. What's up, Isaac? How are you doing? Chilling. Hanging out. Hanging out? Hanging in there? Hanging in there, for sure.
00:00:40
Speaker
Um, no updates this week, I don't think. Hey guys, when we were recording this, there weren't any updates, but the day after that I'm editing and getting ready to release this for you guys, just to get you peeked behind their curtain, there was a pretty major update. It looks like Unikon Gokwe has been placed on IR. He broke his ankle, and I'm assuming that means he's out for the rest of the season. I don't think broken ankles heal in the matter of weeks.
00:01:03
Speaker
Um, but yeah, and I think despite him not being as productive as we might have liked him or we're hoping he would be I think this is still a pretty significant loss for the defense. So just wanted to give that a quick little update Uh, you got anything to uh, you got anything you wanted to get off your chest from Last week that you got you weren't able to since you weren't here. Um, no, I figured about like the package game or
00:01:27
Speaker
I figured I'll wait till the vibe check. Till the vibe check. I can just cover the recent weeks. For sure, for sure. So yeah, no updates.
Bears vs. Lions Game Analysis
00:01:37
Speaker
So I guess we'll just go straight into the general vibe. I'm feeling all right. Bear's got a nice little dub against the Lions. That was a pretty, the game was interesting to watch. Fairly convincing W as well.
00:01:57
Speaker
Yeah, that was what was good to see was convincing one.
00:02:04
Speaker
I don't know. We're kind of on the come up. It's a little bit. My good vibe was kind of dampered though when I was looking at like if we had thinking about where we would be if we hadn't dropped those two those two games, we'd be pretty solidly in the wild card hunt. But yeah, no point in focusing on that. Can't change the past. We're on a good trend right now and I'm feeling pretty good about it. Five and four in the last nine. Not bad. Not bad at all.
00:02:30
Speaker
I'll let you share some of your vibe, too, if you want to talk about how you're feeling, just in general. We'll get a little bit more into it later with the NFC North vibe check. But how are you feeling after that Packers game last night? I'm feeling fine. I still feel pretty good. We had no Musgrave and no Seawatt. So we had no vertical element to our passing game.
00:03:00
Speaker
And it looked like the rookies were just trying to do a little too much and kind of made it a little harder on loves and they needed to. And it was our first game where we were like really favored and expected to win. And I think we still have to learn to deal with those expectations. Yeah. And I mean, we have a
00:03:18
Speaker
We have the Buccaneers and the Panthers coming up, so hopefully we can write the ship a little bit. But I mean, yeah, I wasn't expecting us to, after we beat the Lions and Chiefs, be like, oh, we're the new team to be like, we're still going to have a rough spot. So, sure. Um, yeah, it was just an off day. I mean, Jordan Love still.
00:03:40
Speaker
Looked like his normal self in that last quarter, I would say quarter and a half. Um, I think the defense just of the giants got schemed up really well. And that's been their bright spot in their win streak now. Um, their defensive coordinator, Wink Martindale just knows how to scheme up teams and cause pressure in all kinds of ways. And I think that rattled him a little bit and he just wasn't able to get out of it. Whereas with the win streak.
00:04:10
Speaker
are, his confidence has been building because of the consistency of our O-line. So when he's not getting that same protection, then he's kind of faltering a little bit. Shakes him up a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm still feeling pretty good. Good place to be. A lot of, from what I've seen online, a lot of Packers fans are kind of in shambles. Yeah. A lot of them weren't really, they were kind of high off of those past two wins and then,
00:04:40
Speaker
quickly got brought down back to earth pretty hard. It was also a pretty winnable game last night too, because I mean, we just shot ourselves in the foot. So, but we're a young team, we're gonna fucking do that, you know? Yeah, got some mistakes to learn from still. Yeah. Um, well, all right, we'll get into, uh, we'll dissect this game here a little bit for the Bears.
00:05:02
Speaker
the Bears and the Lions. And then we'll dig into the Packers game a little more later on. Overall, I think, I mean, we played pretty well. Justin Fields had a little bit of a rough start, not even a rough start. He just had like a rough patch, like right in the second quarter.
00:05:17
Speaker
Um, but overall was, I mean, I feel like he had a pretty solid game. Um, and then as a team, our team as a whole, I mean, one thing that I saw was only four penalties, which is, uh, three less than what we usually get. So that was nice. Um, yeah, it was just nice to see us not take the, the, our foot off the gas and just kind of keep coming at him. Um, overall,
00:05:42
Speaker
Just good to see how we responded to some adversity too because we started off strong. Had a really nice first drive and then scored some points and were able to keep the Lions kind of contained up until like the second quarter.
00:05:58
Speaker
Yeah, it looks like we were drawn. We've drawn up a lot of running stuff for DJ more, which is kind of funny. It worked that one time, got us a touchdown, and then we just kept going back to it. And I was like, what are we doing? It seemed like DJ Moore was trying out for the running back or whatever. Seems like the Jane Reed situation. Yeah, he was very similar to that. Yeah, I think.
00:06:20
Speaker
We just did a good job of playing the game. We wanted to play an offense and then getting in Jared Goff's face, just like how we did last time. Just getting in his face and clouding his vision a little bit. And it seems a little bit like he can't, it seems like he can't handle that. I guess that's kind of the recipe to get him off his game.
Lions' Performance and Jared Goff's Consistency
00:06:39
Speaker
Would you say the Lions are frauds now?
00:06:41
Speaker
Um, I think they're in a tough spot where they're a top team and they're being targeted now. Like they're being like, they're getting teams best efforts. Yeah. Like the Packers game, he had 17 pressures, which was his most he's ever had as a lion. And I think the O-line has been pretty inconsistent as of recently, but that's what they hang their hat on is our O-line. Yeah. Um, and I think.
00:07:08
Speaker
Maybe they can write the ship, but I think Jared Groff is just... He's showing why the Rams... He's just not that guy. Yeah, he's showing why the Rams got rid of him. He can elevate a team, but not consistently.
00:07:26
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like the Lions are in a weird spot. I kind of had that conversation with myself last week, just where I feel like, I mean, at least I felt after this game, I think it's a little easier. But last week it felt like they were a little harder to assess just where they were at truly. But yeah, I mean, I just think now you know what you're going to get from Jared Goff. I think we all were expecting elite play and we're thinking maybe you're taking
00:07:48
Speaker
Uh, I don't want to speak for you. I don't know if you felt that way, but I certainly was like, oh, maybe he's taking that next step. Maybe he has what he needs to kind of maintain that level of play, but it looks like that's just not the case. Yeah, I know. It's definitely not as pretty as it was to start the year. And their defense has really fallen off a cliff with their pass rush. Their pass rush has completely, um, stopped compared to what they were.
00:08:15
Speaker
Yeah, they were able to get a couple of sacks. But even those, I would say, aside from, I think they had three sacks almost total, but I would put two of those on Justin Fields just hanging onto the ball for way too long, which is what he does.
00:08:31
Speaker
I was super annoyed watching fields because I was like this defense is single-handedly keeping them in the game and he needs to like do something and then right after I said that he had the touchdown to DJ Morin. I was like, here we go. That's what I'm looking for. Yeah, he had some stumbling blocks, but it was I think with the holding on to the ball too long, I almost
00:08:54
Speaker
have come to the point where I'm I don't know I'm fine with it as long as he does what he did in this game where he is creating plays you know and still and still being productive um yeah they're defect I did not expect
00:09:09
Speaker
He was still carving them up and still and had was our leading rusher this game. So he still was like making plays with his legs, which I did not expect for him to be able to do twice, especially like so quick, you know, within two weeks of playing them. I thought for sure they'd be ready and have something more for him to stop. But it just didn't. He just didn't.
00:09:30
Speaker
One thing that I found was interesting was both the, you guys were tied 13-13 or something like that. And then both the touchdowns that you guys scored to go up, we're both out of structure. Like the DJ Moore touchdown, that wasn't planned. That was just the center zone jump off and they went with it.
00:09:48
Speaker
Yeah, and then also the scramble touchdown aid Hutchinson completely gave up that right side Yeah, like he went inside for no fucking reason wasn't even a stone or anything. He just gave up the edge And yeah, both the touchdowns were out of structure, which I think was pretty interesting. Hmm Yeah, you can't give that to Justin Fields Watching that just I mean he's so fast. He was so fast on that one to the outside like he was just gone Yeah, that is a really interesting point
00:10:16
Speaker
Especially, yeah, I don't think, I don't even think they expected the Lions to jump. I feel like that was such an obvious, like they should have known that was coming. I was screaming. I was like, no way. They just did that. Like that was, that was crazy. I feel like the league has become, become so ready to expect it now that it's kind of rare when they jump.
00:10:37
Speaker
Yeah. A little bit of a little bit of the ghost of Aaron Rodgers there overtaking Justin Fields. I did see some people online being like some Bears fans being like, damn, it's nice to be on the other side of that. Aaron Rodgers has done that to us for so long. It's really nice to be on the other side. Our defense continues to be really good.
00:11:03
Speaker
Half of Jared Goff's picks have been caused by the Bears, because I don't know what... I mean, I think it is just like we just get pressure on him and cloud up his vision. But I mean, still, he just loves throwing to Bears defenders. It's pretty great. You got good hands. Yeah. Oh, I don't know.
Bears' Defense and Phil Snow's Impact
00:11:25
Speaker
I mean, Jaquan Brisker could have had another one. It could have been, I think, five picks, but he dropped one there.
00:11:31
Speaker
uh but either way i just love seeing i mean this this defense has continued on on a really great trend which uh
00:11:39
Speaker
Yeah, I had this conversation with myself last week, but it's a little like it's nice and I love to see like having a good bears defense is just great. But at the same time, it just makes me worried because I feel like it makes the decision for the offseason of like whether or not we keep either flu a little more difficult. Because if you can keep the defense on this on this streak and then even, you know, I think when even two or three of these next few games, I think it does make that decision a little bit harder for the front office.
00:12:06
Speaker
especially like i was really shocked um i don't know if you saw any of it but uh there was i was watching some of the post game clips and like players talking after after that like with the after after the game like with the media and stuff and there was uh for the i mean at least for the first time maybe it's been happening this whole time but for the first time i saw players really coming out in support of beaver fluce and being like this guy we're really behind this guy we believe in him he's the kind of guy you you want to believe in you know the kind of guy that you'll run through a wall
00:12:35
Speaker
through for him and stuff like that. And I mean, it was surprising to me because I just figured, I mean, I hadn't heard any of that shit. And so for them to be coming, I was like, Oh fuck, like does this guy actually still have the locker room? Like it was pretty surprising for me. Well, the general vibe I think has been around that they've been, it's been a good vibe on the, around the team as of recent. And so, yeah, it doesn't surprise me that they're coming out because I mean, they're seeing success with him, you know? Yeah. I mean, it doesn't, it doesn't surprise me now.
00:13:03
Speaker
Yeah. Well, this week too, again, our defense, we found out Unikungakwe is still alive and still playing for the Bears. He got a sack, which was good to see. He has not turned out the way I thought he was going to be. Montesue Azzo, he's really turned this defense around. I think there was a lot of question marks around him, especially when we first signed him, but I feel like
00:13:29
Speaker
He's definitely a big contributor, big playmaker, and has been doing really well for this defense and kind of turned it around. I also wonder, who is that? I'm trying to remember, who is that guy that we brought in to kind of snow or something? Yeah, Phil Snow. Phil Snow. I do wonder how much of this defensive turnaround is due to him too. That's what I've heard some people say, but I'm not sure if it's like a full contributor.
00:13:52
Speaker
Yeah, it's tough to know. I feel like unless you're an insider with the Bears, but I do, I do feel like I just still, I thought it's hard for me to give Ibifluis the benefit of the doubt and give him any credit. Cause I'm like, I don't know. I feel like it's gotta be something else, you know, whether it's a combination of, uh, you know, the defense finally being healthy and, and, and, uh, meshing or like Phil snow or, you know, Montes sweat coming in. That's like, I don't know. I think it's a culmination, a lot of that, but I think it's still pretty.
00:14:23
Speaker
Admirable that, you know, losing your defensive coordinator early on kind of fucks things up a little bit. Yeah. So he had to integrate. Cause I mean, even though they run the same system, there's still different ways of teaching and different ways of, he's going to have a different philosophy still. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, I think it just had to implement his, just implement his dial back, um, fully. And I think it's starting to show off.
00:14:53
Speaker
As an outsider, as a non-Bears fan, what do you think the Bears should do head coaching wise? It's hard to say, like you said. It's a tough call. Yeah, he's showing results. I think Getzi has to go no matter what. Oh, for sure.
00:15:15
Speaker
Yeah, Iber Flus is kind of winning the hearts of Bears fans right now. And it's hard not to. Like I said, he's shown results. If the defense stays on this trajectory, then it makes sense to keep him at least.
00:15:33
Speaker
Yeah, it's hard to argue if he's producing wins. I do feel like when I think about it, though, I feel like this time next year, we're going to be like, why the fuck did we keep him? You know what I mean? Like, I feel like I'm getting a.
00:15:50
Speaker
a vision right now you know of the future I can see it just like fuck like we should have got rid of that guy last year like he really he really calmed it I can hear it already I can hear myself being like he fucking calmed this like he made us believe in him and he fucking actually sucked or whatever like um I think didn't guess he'd do that where he was bad to start the year last year and then in the middle he started like scheming up like runs for Justin Fields and stuff like that and everyone was like all right yeah this guy's not too bad
00:16:18
Speaker
Yeah, I do. Yeah, I got to go back because I wasn't really so much so deep in it and paying attention as much with play calling and whatnot was more just long for the ride. So I don't really have a strong recollection of how that all went down. But I mean, the tracks, I feel like, you know, I was having a good time watching Justin Field do do runs and stuff. And then we should just like if he was doing that last year, why don't we continue?
00:16:45
Speaker
Looks like a fucking guy, dude.
Justin Fields' Growth and Handling Pressure
00:16:47
Speaker
It's not as sustainable because you've seen a lot of these young guys get hurt doing that stuff like R3 and shit like that. Yeah. So I think he's like, well, now we got DJ Moore and Darnell Mooney's R2 and Cole Comet's, you know, surging a little bit. So I think he's trying to force him to be more of a pocket passer than he should be.
00:17:08
Speaker
Gotta find that healthy balance because I don't think he's Justin Fields isn't capable of it, and I think he showed that this game Not a great set line, but 19 for 33 223 yards one touchdown. I Don't know what I saw I mean Some bad plays here and there, but I feel like he was making some really great passes Yeah, I think defense and then uh He was doing really good under pressure too. I felt like I
00:17:34
Speaker
Yeah, I think against the blitz he had like 140 passer rating or something like that. It was pretty high. He was very good against the blitz this game. And he has been the last few weeks.
00:17:47
Speaker
Good game for him. Good trend for him. I think he's, I mean, it's definitely some improvement. Still some critiques. I think you can make for him, but, and the, I mean, he still got the legs, which is just something you can't teach. He's just so quick. And when he fucking takes off, it's hard to stop him. I mean, yeah, the legs never go away. It's just the volume in which you run rather than keeping your eyes downfield. You know what I mean?
00:18:12
Speaker
Like, even with Lamar, he's had to learn this year, keeping his eyes downfield way more than he used to. Than just taking off. Yeah, which I think shows that's something you can coach. That's something you can improve on. I don't think that's something you're stuck in. What do you think? Should we have that conversation, you and I, about Justin Fields? Which conversations? I mean, do we keep him? Do we send him away?
00:18:40
Speaker
No, I feel like that conversations. We can have that later. And it's still, we still got a few games left. Yeah. It's still a hard conversation to have, especially with having like, well, I think that's Brown's game will be interesting.
00:18:53
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, he's going to be going against a really good defense. You were mentioning earlier. Or let's leave this because we got the preview later on. So we'll get into it. We'll get into that a little later. I think that's all I had for the game. It just was good. It was a good game. Convincing win. I mean, yeah, the Lions are a little bit.
00:19:13
Speaker
You know, they're on a skid right now and some would say they're being exposed as fraudulent, but I mean Still a good win, I think and Operators trends. I think okay. Yeah, the defense is still playing great Justin Fields is showing some improvement
00:19:28
Speaker
He really spread the ball out this game too. I felt like, you know, um, come out, add some catches moon. He had some catches. I think even Scott was getting targeted. So one thing I found interesting. I think he only, I didn't think, I don't think he had any targets to DJ more in the first half, but in the second half he had 10 targets to DJ more. So obviously it was like, this guy's getting open. Let's throw him the ball. Yeah. Yep. Uh, I think that's all I got for this game.
00:19:56
Speaker
Yeah. Any more interesting points you wanted to bring up? Um, not on the bear side, but more on the lion side of just, um, not entirely, but they kind of remind me of the Vikings from last year where like.
00:20:11
Speaker
they're winning, but it's shaky. It's getting, it's getting shaky now. It's not inspiring confidence. Yeah. And I think, um, especially with the wild cards and what the wild cards could look like, um, they could very easily be a first round exit. And I think they should, um, yeah, it's just not, it's not super convincing like it was early on the season. Yeah, I think, uh, yeah, I mean, I was, I was mentioning that last week. It just seems,
00:20:42
Speaker
They are not as they don't seem anyway as invincible as they did. At one point, it seemed like they were just an unstoppable train, you know, just kind of just going just to force. And that has really just. It's been derailed. After the after that Ravens game, they've been averaging over two turnovers a game. So I don't know if that like exposed something or just kind of made them more susceptible to like.
00:21:12
Speaker
Stupid decision. Yeah, the way the Ravens lock down the middle of field and made golf work outside of structure has kind of led to a blueprint of.
00:21:25
Speaker
just make this guy improvise and he can't do it. Yeah, I do think, I mean, yeah, that, I would agree with that. I think that definitely seems to be the blueprint, uh, the blueprint or the plan, you know, to kind of take down the lines is start with Jared Goff, just get him uncomfortable and get a feel in the heat. Cause it seems like he really can't, can't take it and can, uh, like you're saying improviser do things on the fly there. I think it'd be interesting to see how they end up here.
00:21:50
Speaker
Hmm, who do they got left? I think we'll take this opportunity here to transition to the because we're talking about the Lions So we'll kind of call it the NFC North vibe check now Because I think we'll dig a little bit here Who the Lions have left to go against? The NFC North vibe sure Denver, Minnesota, Dallas, Minnesota Hmm
00:22:18
Speaker
They might get fucking dog-walked by Dallas. Yeah, by the way the Cowboys are looking right now. Yeah. The Broncos, that's a toss-up. How did the Broncos do last week?
00:22:30
Speaker
They won. Yeah, I feel like they might get squeaking out wins. But no, they beat the Chargers pretty convincingly. I mean, Herbert got hurt. But yeah, he's out for the season now. Yeah. Even before that, though, they were they were not playing 14 zero. Yeah. Yeah. The Broncos has been on an insane tear recently. Hmm. I think.
00:22:55
Speaker
I know I read this a few weeks ago. I don't know if it's still true, but still an insane stat where a quarter of their defensive drives, they're causing a turnover. So every fourth defensive drive, they're going to turn over. Oh my gosh. Which is just the turnaround on that defense has been insane.
00:23:18
Speaker
Well, they were pretty good last year, weren't they? The defense, the Bronco defense. Defense, yeah. But to start the year, they were terrible. I mean, not an up 70 to the Dolphins. That's historically bad. That's not a great defensive performance. But I think once they traded.
00:23:32
Speaker
They traded both their pass rushers. I think, um, I know they traded chub last year and I think they traded another one or they got rid of Randy Gregory, I think, and let the young guys play. Then the young guys have been fucking turning out. I mean, I think it's let them play a little more loose.
00:23:53
Speaker
Yeah. To bring you back to the Lions though, I think for the rest of the schedule, it seems like, and even then, I mean, unless if the Vikings can turn something around, but it seems like the only, uh, the only games where I would give them kind of the, the advantage is against the Vikings rather than that. I mean, I think the Broncos are capable of beating the Lions and the Cowboys are definitely capable of beating the Lions if both teams continue on the trend that they're on. So.
00:24:19
Speaker
Oh man, this season could shake out a lot, a lot different for them than what they thought it would be. Yeah, I just, they're, they look way more inconsistent and just way more turnover, turnovers than they should be allowing. If they can come, if they can cut out the turnovers, then yeah, I think their offense has the firepower to hang with anybody, but I just don't know. And their defense has been such a revolving door recently. I just don't know.
00:24:50
Speaker
I don't know how that's going to shake out. Yeah, I feel like the vibe in the NFC North is weird. It's all shaken up and weird now. We have three teams in the playoffs right now. Yeah. But like, nobody's convincing right now. Yeah, no one's convincing. I saw this thing where people were talking about someone was saying, you know what? I'd be fine if everyone ended up 9 and 8 or whatever. That's what it's going to fucking end up to. That would be nuts, dude.
00:25:19
Speaker
All right, any more of the lions
00:25:33
Speaker
No, I don't think so. Lions and Bears. I mean, this is nice to win, just to take it back to the general Bears vibe. It's just nice to win. Just to win convincingly. It'd be nice if we'd beat them twice, because I think we should be 2-0 against these guys. Yeah. Hmm.
00:25:52
Speaker
Well, it's something that's changed from last year's last year. They were really good against the NFC North. And this year, not so much play the Vikings, but yeah, two and two against the Packers and Bears, which are both like in like evaluation years. You know what I mean? Yeah.
00:26:12
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. Yeah. If you, uh, set at the beginning of the season or before games in that, that the Packers and the Bears would each have a win against the Lions, I probably wouldn't, uh, wouldn't have bought it. Probably just think that the Lions were not as good as they were supposed to be. But I mean, they're, they've been good and they just can't, they're not winning those divisional battles that they usually, that they were last year to end out the season. Yeah. Braxton Jones been fucking good.
00:26:42
Speaker
Um, you know what? Tell me about it. I haven't really, uh, I don't really catch him on anything I was looking at. Oh, I was just, um, I was looking at pass pass rush win rates and stuff like that. And he was second in offensive lineman in the entire league.
00:26:57
Speaker
Oh, wow. So that's pretty good. 95%. Jaquan Brisker this game. Holy shit. He was all over the... He led the team this game. Thirteen tackles, four assists. He was fucking everywhere. Showing what he can do. I mean, he's... I've always liked him. He's always been a super like Derwin James down in the box kind of safety. I've really liked that about him. And he's just...
00:27:22
Speaker
He's, he needs to be more instinctual and needs to not think as much and, you know, not make boneheaded plays. Yeah. But yeah, his ceiling is high. I like him. Yeah. I like a lot of the guys in our defense and it's just nice to see our defense really kind of start figuring it out here.
00:27:44
Speaker
Yeah, I think, uh, I think Monta sweat, just to kind of give him a little more love is like, he's really was a shot in the arm. I think that this defense needed, he's really been good about creating pressures. And I think just really brought this whole defense together. Our rookies have been doing pretty good too. Jevon Dexter is looking pretty good. This has been really good. And, uh,
00:28:05
Speaker
in the pass rush situations, like the third down, third and longs where they need to get after the quarterback. It's been really good enough. Yeah, that's been, I mean, it's been with Jared Goff. Hopefully we can, we can turn that into like with other quarterbacks too. But I feel like we're finally getting pressure on the quarterback. It's nice to see them not, you know, opposing quarterbacks not have all day in the fucking pocket. I was waiting for a Vayless Jones fuck up this game.
00:28:31
Speaker
He was back on the roster. I was like, oh, boy. I was like, here we go. They brought him back. Kept like a first down, didn't he? Or something? He did something good. Yeah. I mean, again, that was shocking.
00:28:47
Speaker
But they just will not quit them. Yeah, they will not quit on them. Which, I mean, I don't know. Maybe they see something, you know, everyone else doesn't. But I guess. I guess. Yeah. All right. I think that's it. I think we can fully move on from this game now. And you want to start with the, let's hit the Vikings Raiders game.
00:29:11
Speaker
Not much to talk about there. So Vikings beat the Raiders. Three points to zero. The lowest scoring game since 07. That game in 07 had an excuse. It was because the fucking field was mud. Yeah. This was in a dome. And just no excuse. Just ugly football.
00:29:33
Speaker
Yeah, I would just give a little credit to the defense though It seemed like the defense of both teams was really just getting after the court the opposing quarterback all game Like it really neither quarterback had it, you know any time to breathe it really I think Vikings lost like three offensive linemen to injury in this game. I
00:29:52
Speaker
Ouch. That's really rough. That's not what you want. They're gonna have T.J. Hawkinson fucking lining up eventually. They lost another one. Yeah. Oh, man. That's tough for Dobbs. I mean, there was a few times I saw where Dobbs couldn't even get through his dropback before he had someone either in his face or tackling him.
00:30:16
Speaker
Well, it was also he was throwing hospital balls. He got Jefferson injured right away. Yeah. Yeah. That was doing this. Yeah. Especially like a veteran dude. You can't be putting your guys in that kind of situation. Yeah. Hawkinson, Hawkinson's a fucking tank. He can take it. He's he's slight. He's going to get hit. Well, at this point he's made a glass right now too. I mean, you just came back, right? Was this his first came back or second?
00:30:43
Speaker
No, it was his first game back. But they waited quite a bit to take him back. So they made sure he was good. And then he... Before they injured him again. Before he got injured again. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's tough because I mean, even if you do wait a little bit, I mean...
00:31:01
Speaker
I don't want to say it's worse, but I think you do get a little softer. I mean, you're not used to taking those hits in the same way that you would usually be. You're not used to that contact, even if you are taking practice reps. Like, there's just no substitute for it, you know? So it's not surprising that he wasn't maybe ready or as hardened as he would have been if he had come back a game early or, you know, maybe even just had a few snaps or something. But either way, yeah, Joshua Dobbs did not do him any favors with that pass.
00:31:30
Speaker
Especially high pointing it so he had to jump in the yeah like stretch it like fully extend like yeah That's a rough one What can you do? Hockinson can take that shit. Hockinson's a fucking tank. Oh for sure. Yeah So maybe he's used to that because he's been thrown to Hawkins in this whole time. Yeah Yeah, it was just got used to the wrong thing there I watched some of the broadcast and it was funny because I
00:31:58
Speaker
They were talking about Kevin O'Connell and how he has faith in Josh Dobbs and wants to like, doesn't want to bench him like everyone else did and like let him, you know, persevere and stuff like that. And then he got benched in the fourth quarter, but they needed it. They needed to bench him because there was no juice on the offensive side. And I think just adding in, um, a back quarterback that the defense isn't expecting and did game plan for can just,
00:32:27
Speaker
get that fucking three points that you need. Yeah. I think more than anything, it just, it just was, it provided them like a much needed shakeup. And I think it just changed the trajectory, you know, and, and, uh, yeah. Cause I don't think what's his name was playing all that much better than, uh, than Dobbs was. Um, but I definitely think it just changed. I mean, yeah, it just was a shakeup for the defense and for the offense, I think. So I think it's just what they needed. They said Nick Mullins is starting next week. So.
00:32:53
Speaker
Oh, they're giving him the start next week. Yeah. Wow. Hmm. That's interesting. Yeah. So against the Bengals, I think. Hmm. So I don't know. Should be interesting. Yeah. We'll see.
Josh Dobbs' Struggles and Potential
00:33:09
Speaker
We'll see how Mullens does.
00:33:12
Speaker
I mean, that's tough right here towards the end of the season, too, to kind of have to take that shift. Yeah, I really did not think. I mean, you were saying that, I mean, incorrectly, too. Dobbs has kind of fallen back to earth here pretty hard. I mean, props to you for calling that. I really thought he was going to be you. I didn't think he was going to maintain that level of play throughout the rest of the season, but I definitely did not think he was going to drop off as hard as he did this game. His Lynn Sandy run is over.
00:33:42
Speaker
That's a really good comparison actually that's really good comparison because I mean he He's been like fine and he's had like he's won them good games that he needed to but You're gonna get schemed up and it's only gonna last so long. Yeah, and I mean yeah this game it's
00:34:05
Speaker
Yeah, it seems like he's kind of showing the reasons why he's been bounced around the league a little bit. A hundred percent, yeah. What can you do? You want the best for him, but I mean at a certain point.
00:34:21
Speaker
Well, not the best. I don't know. I just, it was a great story. I felt like his story was a great one. So I was definitely, I was definitely rooting for him. I thought that would have been cool for them to kind of keep going and do well. And who knows? I mean, season's not over. So maybe he'll be able to battle back. Maybe Nick Mullins will shit the bed or something. I think they should just go with the fucking rookie. I mean, go to Rick.
00:34:42
Speaker
Yeah. Fucking see what you have at least. Yeah. I don't think. Yeah. Cause I don't think you're going to continue with Joshua Dobbs. Like he's not going to be your long-term option there. Yeah. I mean, they're, it looks like they're already benching Dobbs next week. So I mean, fuck it. Yeah. Just see what you got in the rookie at least. Yeah. Cause I mean, I don't think there's, I don't think there's a situation where they don't bring cousins back next year anymore. Mm-hmm.
00:35:11
Speaker
their defense has been playing good. They have the offensive firepower. Yeah. Why wouldn't you bring customs back? I mean, it feels like that's that missing piece, right? The missing piece. Yeah. And I mean, he knows this system. He's integrated. I feel like. And he's bought into like, yeah, he's pretty teams backing him up to critical chains. Next year could be the fucking run it back.
00:35:41
Speaker
Yeah, that'll be interesting to see. Uh, you got any more on the Vikings Raiders? Uh, no, I'm surprised we had that much to talk about. Yeah. Yeah. It was not a lot. Max Crosby had a pretty good game just to give him a little tip of the cap, you know, for the Raiders. Max Crosby doing Max Crosby things. Yeah. He's so intriguing cause he's not even like a good, he's not even like an elite athlete. It's just his fundamentals are just as good as it gets. Yeah. And his, his get off is so quick.
00:36:11
Speaker
And yeah, he's forming one of the top pass rushes in the league now Good for him. It's fun to watch him
00:36:20
Speaker
Yeah. It's also a bitch to go against dude. Yeah. Cause he, he had like four tackle for losses against the Packers and it was just, it was a bitch to go against him. Cause he's, he's got that killer mentality. Like he doesn't give a fuck and it's hard to go against when he has that confidence. Well, especially when he gets a rhythm going to stuff too. Like once he gets in his element.
00:36:49
Speaker
Hmm, I was gonna say I feel like I feel like we did the Bears did a pretty good job of keeping them contained for the most part Yeah, but Packers did not Speaking of the Packers you want to get into the you want to move on from the Vikings Raiders and dig into this Packers game a little bit or how you feel? Yeah, I mean You mentioned earlier you're feeling all right right like you're not feeling too shaken up by this loss I
00:37:19
Speaker
Yeah, no, I think we were looking ahead of schedule. And this was our first time where we were like, we're favored to win. We should win. How can we come on top? And we just, we weren't able
Packers' Success and Jordan Love's Performance
00:37:33
Speaker
to. Yeah. Came on yourselves instead of coming on top. Exactly. That's basically how it went. Um, yeah, these last few weeks have been, um,
00:37:47
Speaker
fun to watch i think uh because i haven't been on for a minute so i kind of want to just kind of go over the last few weeks in general i guess give a little recap yeah i mean the least past few weeks i mean you guys have been on a high and i think more than anything it seems like these past few weeks jordan love and in your in his receivers
00:38:05
Speaker
have just been clicking. Like they just were on it. They were just together. They were their communication. I don't, I mean, I don't know if it was their communication. I don't know if it was like in practice or what exactly it was, but I mean, they just were clicking and they were just, we're doing really well. I think that's been a key part of you guys's success these past couple of weeks. I think, yeah, I think it's been the chemistry and stuff like that. Um, I also think it's been our O-line getting schemed up a little better than like,
00:38:33
Speaker
pulling the center out and like protecting the edge and shit like that. And just using our advantages on the old line and sticking with that. And then it gives love confidence. And so he's throwing more accurately and then the receivers are more able.
00:38:54
Speaker
to go make plays for him as well. Yeah. If he's throwing more accurately. So I think it was just a rising tide of everything kind of clicking at once. Um, and especially with the emergence of Christian Watson, um, we've been kind of waiting for him in a sophomore year to break out and, you know, consistently hit those contested catches. Um, cause I mean, he's fucking six foot four and his vertical, his vertical is fucking insane. Um,
00:39:22
Speaker
And yeah, against the lions and the Chiefs, he just was making those insane catches that love needed him to make. Cause love's still young and I mean, really early on in his career, he's still really early in his career. Like I think if you can get him those, if you can get him that extra time, I mean, anyone would benefit from it, but I think he especially benefits from it. Well, yeah, especially with him also taking a little more command at the line, um, watching the Chiefs game, he was constantly like,
00:39:53
Speaker
doing dummy cadences like Rogers and like the fields did on that one play and getting the defense to show themselves and then change the play and then changing accordingly. Yeah. And he did that. He was playing the game against the Chiefs like on the line the entire time. Like he was there changing the plays up and like
00:40:17
Speaker
just reading what the defense was given him. And that's something that's been really good for him these last few weeks has been him reading and reacting rather than thinking. He's not sitting there thinking as much. He's seeing something and he's reacting to it. And that's what you have to do as a quarterback. You have to trust your eyes. You can't sit there and trust your eyes and trust your gut and decision making. Yeah. And that's exactly what has led them and led him to this hot streak that he's been on.
00:40:47
Speaker
And I think losing Christian Watson in this game against the Giants, I was saying before, like this Giants game feels like a trap game. The Giants always kind of have our number and their defense is really relentless. Their defense has been their high point these last few weeks in their win streak because now they're on like a three game win streak.
00:41:10
Speaker
And, um, yeah, just having that vertical element, not there really a faltered this defense or this offense my fault. And just had no, everything was lateral. Like there was no vertical threat because we didn't have our, we didn't have Musgrave either. Yeah. And I mean, you can be without one, but without both of them be without two. Yeah. There's no vertical threat. And so, yeah, I think it's just these young guys trying to.
00:41:38
Speaker
I think we beat the good teams and I think we're in the next phase of we can play. So let's figure out how to play consistently and play in games that we are favored and should win. One solidify your identity as a team too. Yeah. And I think it's, uh,
00:42:01
Speaker
Yeah, they just had a rough one. And I'm not bugging too bad about it right now. Yeah. I think they are officially the youngest team in the NFL, too, right? Yeah, they have. So I mean, there's still a lot to learn for them. Yeah. How are you feeling? How are you feeling when they beat the Chiefs? I bet that felt real good. You're probably on cloud nine. Yeah, I was mad before. Did we get a chance to talk about the Lions game?
00:42:30
Speaker
No. Yeah. Cause that one, I think that one was even crazier. Cause you guys were essentially like, I mean, entire second string, like super banked up. Um, that was, I wasn't expecting to win that one at all. That's the game that gave me, I mean,
00:42:51
Speaker
You said you remember even before I was like, the Chiefs game seems more winnable than the Lions game. Yeah, just because of the matchup. But yeah, the Lions we created, we got pressure on them all game and just made golf uncomfortable and made them make stupid turnovers and we capitalized and
00:43:09
Speaker
for eight straight quarters against the lions and chiefs, we never trailed. And I think that was, that's the key with Matt LaFlore in this offense is get out to a lead and then everything's still on the table for him and he can scheme up whatever he wants. He's not limited in his play calling. Yeah, no, that's been the thing is we have to get out to a lead. And it's kind of like the Kyle Shanahan thing, like Kyle Shanahan and the 49ers,
00:43:37
Speaker
being down in the fourth quarter, he's like 0 and 36. Like he's never won a game. Yeah. And I think that's that's where it's at is he wants the entire he wants his entire arsenal available to him. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, I think with Jordan Love, his confidence growing, he's kind of telling the floor what he wants and what he needs as a
00:44:09
Speaker
as a passer and the floor is resonating with him and willing to, I think it's more of like become more of a collaborative effort than it was.
00:44:20
Speaker
I'm going to do this one because Stein's not here. Oh, you mean a coach that listens to his quarterback and then adjust and then schemes things up for him? Wow. Exactly. It's nice to have sometimes when he is willing to work with his young quarterback, especially when the young quarterback is starting to get
00:44:41
Speaker
the confidence. Get his feet underneath him. That's the thing. I mean, and I don't know. I mean, that didn't seem, I don't think he ever seemed down on himself at any point, but I think watching him, especially in the game last night, he just does seem really confident. Like when he steps on the field, he just has that confidence. He's poised. I mean, he's just handles the situations very well. I mean, yeah, that's one thing that people have been like giving him props for is
00:45:07
Speaker
He's been under a microscope ever since Rogers left pretty much. Oh, yeah. Well, even before a little bit probably too. Yeah. And it's, he hasn't, he's just been dealing with it, you know, he's just been hanging in there. Yeah. And so, I mean, even with this wind streak, he's been like, Oh, everyone's like,
00:45:28
Speaker
Jordan Love, next Hall of Fame quarterback and shit like that. And like, he doesn't need to be Hall of Fame quarterback, I don't think. That's the thing. I think he's just being himself and I think he looks good. Um, the arm talent has always been there. That was, that was his one thing coming out of college was the arm talent and the throws that he can make. And they just need to hone all the, all the mechanics and stuff like that. And it looks like they've been doing that.
00:45:54
Speaker
One thing I noticed with the Giants game is he was getting his draw back really fast. Yeah. I think he was a little scared of like. I think he was rattled. Yeah, he was getting his draw back so fast. Yeah. Just throwing the timing off of everything. But yeah, once he's if he's confident out there, I think he can kind of hit whatever throw he wants to make.
00:46:15
Speaker
Yeah, and there's been there's been a lot of inconsistencies with the accuracy and stuff like that But the last few weeks it's really been honed in and so he's just made been making like insane throws like I've been noticing he's having these like
00:46:28
Speaker
You know, when Rogers has like that fuck you throw one time again, Jordan has been having that fuck you throw like against the lions. It was that one where he rolled out, right. And then saw Malik Heath on the other side of that. It was like, yeah, on his tiptoes across the body, like fling off the, yeah. And it just, it just worked. Yeah. Against the chief's game. It was that fourth and one moon ball to Romeo Dobbs between like four defenders that just, yeah, it just works. Yeah.
00:46:59
Speaker
Um, I think his fuck you throw this game was dropped though in the touchdown. Cause that throw to Billy Keith on that touchdown before he caught the touchdown was an insane fucking throw, especially to like be falling back on your feet and just deliver a dart like that was crazy. Um,
00:47:21
Speaker
But yeah, I'm not, I think we're a little ahead of, I think that wind street got us a little ahead of schedule. Yeah. And I think it was just a matter of time before we came back down to earth just a little bit. Yeah. Um, we have the Buccaneers at home next week. It looks like we're going to be very banged up again. So.
00:47:40
Speaker
That should be interesting. A bit of a coin toss in that game, huh? Yeah. But then we got the Panthers and the Vikings who both look pretty rough right now.
00:47:52
Speaker
Yeah, last week in my conversation with myself, I was saying that I... How do you feel about it? Because I feel like it's... You kind of have a cakewalk the rest of the season. I mean, would you call it that? It's more favorable than... Than not. Yeah. Yeah. I think I mean, the box is like the toughest look. And even then, I don't think it's that crazy of a... I think our toughest look the entire time was the Giants game. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Because of their defense and...
00:48:22
Speaker
Just how relentless that defense is getting after the quarterback and just causing just gumming shit up. Yeah. Yeah, I just the Giants seem to have our number and they fucked our shit up last year. So that was that kind of gave me a little PTSD flashbacks there. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. I.
00:48:50
Speaker
I think we're still favored next week. Three point favorites or something like that. Is that a Lambo or is that down in? Yeah, it's in Lambo. Oh, okay. Yeah. So it should be interesting. Um, see how it turns out and see if we can get any guys fucking healthy. Yeah. I got injured and Reed got injured.
00:49:08
Speaker
So yikes Yeah, we're gonna be going to practice wide guys at that point. Yeah. Well, let's see what you guys can do I've gone back and forth but I'm back on the train of being Reinterested in that last game that we have the Bears Packers game I think it I am back into like, okay, I think that is actually gonna be an interesting game now Yeah, it's very it'll be a good ass game. Yeah, I think it'll be I
00:49:36
Speaker
I think it'll be fun. I hope it's a fun game. Oh yeah, Lambo. I am happiest in Lambo, because you guys haven't beaten us in Lambo in like eight years. That's tough. So at least I can hold that. Yeah. We'll see how that shakes out. I'm excited for that game again, because for a while, it was like, oh, the Bears, we're both shit. The Bears and the Packers are both dog shit. That game's not going to matter. And I was like, oh, that game actually might matter.
00:50:03
Speaker
Let alone be like not just matter but also I think just be interesting because I think both both kind of I mean I hesitate to say for the Bears but I mean kind of finding the rhythm like at least you know somewhat kind of coming into their identity and figuring out Kind of what works yeah, I think the package are still Hitting a stride but also trying to Hit that next step. Yeah, you know that next phase of development. I
00:50:31
Speaker
Yeah, I think it'll be super interesting too, especially if our defense can stay, um, stay on the current trend. And then we'll, you know, we'll see how, if our defense can keep it up and how Jordan Love will do against that, you know, against the defense that's actually getting after him and actually like, hopefully, you know, healthy, healthy then that will really, you know, put some pressure on them. I do. One thing that's interesting is the Lions game and the Chiefs game.
00:50:56
Speaker
Well, technically the Lions game was his first time that he seen a repeated opponent in the year. Cause he saw the Lions early on, shit the bed, saw him again and torched him. So I think that was pretty fun to watch. And then the Chiefs, that was the first team he ever played against. So it was fun to watch him kind of redeem himself. Oh, compared to that, like first time you went against.
00:51:25
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Yeah, his first ever start was against the Chiefs. Yeah, and that same defensive coordinator. Mm-hmm So, I mean, yeah to back-to-back weeks where he's playing repeated opponents. Um Yeah, look pretty good It'd be interesting to see how he does against Minnesota as well now. Mm-hmm after getting Fucking losing to them in ugly fashion. Yeah All right, well he got any more on the
00:51:55
Speaker
The Packers Giants or just the NFC North in general? Mm-hmm. I think that pretty much wraps it up. I mean Yeah, very I just want to reiterate. I just how again just the vibes are nuts vibes are so weird now for the NFC North like Yeah, I mean the Lions have been shown to bleed now Vikings are I mean, it's seemingly like they're just falling off a cliff Packers and Bears on the on the come up a little bit just not
00:52:25
Speaker
Now, uh, two weeks ago, not at all what I expected, you know, taking a turn. It's been, this is, I mean, and I think just around the league, it's just this, this season has been really fucking crazy and weird. Yeah. It's, I'm not sure what to expect for the last year. It's going to be entertaining. Yeah. Definitely nuts.
00:52:51
Speaker
Yeah, the Lions should handle the Vikings games, but the Cowboys in Denver, I don't know. Yeah, it just feels, I mean, Bronco, the Broncos especially feels like a toss up. The Cowboys, if you didn't ask me two weeks ago, I would have been like, oh yeah, like the Lions, they, you know, they'll definitely be able to handle the Cowboys, but the Cowboys are on something.
Cowboys' Performance and Upcoming Challenges
00:53:12
Speaker
They're catching fire here late in the season, which is kind of right when you want to be. 100%.
00:53:20
Speaker
Yeah, I think that's all I got. All right. Well, you were mentioning earlier how it was nice to see Jordan Love go against the first team he ever went against and do really well.
Preview: Bears vs. Browns Game
00:53:35
Speaker
Kind of hoping the same for Justin Fields here, as the Chicago Bears have the Cleveland Browns next week. Yikes. A little bit of a yikes.
00:53:48
Speaker
dig into the Browns a little bit. I mean, you were telling me the Browns have been historically good defense, which I've been living under Iraq. I was unaware. Yeah, I know they've been super good. They've been dealing with injuries recently though, but yeah, the first few weeks they had like a historically good defense and they still have, I think the best defense in the league right now under first year defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz.
00:54:16
Speaker
Jimmy Schwartz How banged up are they gonna be next week I'm trying to find that right now. Okay. I Mean, they'll still have miles Garrett. So Yeah, he had four and a half sacks last time you guys met Yikes by himself Double yikes. Yeah, that's tough. Um, I
00:54:44
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, just as so Cleveland Browns, actually, now they also have they got Joe Flacco last week or two weeks ago. Right. He's been with them for two weeks now. I believe so. Yeah. And I mean, he's I don't know. He's kind of just come in and been doing pretty well, it seems like. So it looks like they've been getting a little more healthy as of recently. They're starting corner Denzel Ward is questionable.
00:55:14
Speaker
Um, and then their safety grant Delpit, who's been a very good piece is questionable with a groin injury. And then, yeah, outside of that, I thought it looks like the two major injuries right now.
00:55:31
Speaker
Well, I mean I guess we'll see questionable is not out and it's only Tuesday I Mean, I assume the rest of the league does the same way the Bears do where they do the injury report on Wednesday Yeah, so I guess we'll know for sure by then Yeah, I don't know I want to see a full full-on Browns, you know healthy defense I think that'd be good make for good evaluation for Justin Fields and see how he does I
00:55:56
Speaker
Um, I mean, the bears, I'll double check this, but I don't think the bears have any injuries right now. It's going to really test the. What progress the offensive line has made. Um, because the, the Browns are third in past rush win rate right now at like 53%, which is better than they were in the last meeting. Oh man.
00:56:28
Speaker
Yeah, it looks like the bears, there's no injury reports right now for the bears. I think everyone's going to be healthy. So yeah, they're passing defense even as a whole lowest completion percentage allowed lowest or bottom four and yards per attempt allowed. And the lowest yards allowed.
00:56:49
Speaker
So just fucking handling things. Yeah. Hopefully we can get a run game going. I think two. I mean, the other thing too, though, is I don't I don't worry too. I mean, I shouldn't say I don't worry, but I think this last game, Justin Fields was under a lot of pressure.
00:57:07
Speaker
and had a really great pass rating and was making really good decisions under pressure. Took some sacks that you don't like, that aren't ideal. But again, I feel like if he can still be productive, I mean, taking a couple sacks, I'll take that trade off.
00:57:24
Speaker
I think it'll be interesting to see the mental side of it. Yeah, it'll be a good test. And see how he handles, you know, the first team he ever played just getting absolutely like obliterated that game. Yeah, would you say nine sacks on it? Yeah, nine sacks. I think one net passing yard all game. Yeah. That's a rough stat line for your first game.
00:57:43
Speaker
Yeah, and I think it wasn't all on him, but still that gets in your head. You know what I mean? No, for sure. I mean, that for sure can mess with you a little psychologically. Yeah, and it's not all on him, especially since that defense was built or that not that defense that offense was built for Andy Dalton, not for Justin Fields. Yeah, Nagi didn't call a great game to say the least. No, say it ain't so. I think it was like 70 percent of the plays were just five.
00:58:12
Speaker
Five blockers And they were just getting fucking killed and so he didn't I don't think he he adjusted a little bit in like the second half But even by then it was way too late and Justin was already like what the fuck is happening How much of a hand do you think Matt Nagy has had in the in the stumbling of the Chiefs lately I Don't think he's doing them any favors. Hmm. I don't think he
00:58:43
Speaker
is elevating them at all. Yeah. I don't know if the stumbling is his fault, essentially, rather than just the receivers being young and incompetent and can't beat coverage. Yeah. Or just, I mean, just flat out can't catch. Yeah. And they just can't get separation. Yeah. And the fact that they didn't bring anyone in seems crazier by the game.
Chiefs' Struggles and Receiver Issues
00:59:12
Speaker
especially with Kelsey. I mean, Kelsey is good, but he's getting old. Yeah. Well, Taylor Swift can't be at every game. So I mean, she was in Green Bay. Yeah. So yeah. Um, yeah. So I give it a quick double check. I mean, I couldn't even St. Brown is questionable, but he's, I mean, he's not out. And even then I think he's been scratched mostly. I don't think he's even been playing that much. Um, so I mean, we'll be fully healthy.
00:59:43
Speaker
Um, it'd be interesting to see, I think this is going to be great. I didn't, I was last week when I was having, when I was doing it on my own, I wasn't aware of how good the, uh, Brown's defense was. So I felt like the rest of the, I was saying how the rest of the season, it didn't really feel like we were going to get a chance to really evaluate fields. But I mean, if this divots is as good as you're saying, yeah, this is a good, good evaluation game and we'll see how he does. Hopefully he can keep up that.
01:00:09
Speaker
keep it up like of making good decisions under pressure and continuing to use his legs and stuff. Hopefully our run game can get a little more involved too. I felt like as good of a game as we had against the Lions, I felt like we didn't
01:00:25
Speaker
I felt like a rushing hasn't been there in the way that it was, which is weird because everyone's healthy. So I don't know if it seems like they don't know what they want to do. Like who they want to go with. Yeah. They're trying to ride the hot hand with, um, Dante Foreman, but like, yeah, Dante Foreman is not the best rusher there. No. Like he's good, obviously, but you have Herbert and you have Roshan Johnson.
01:00:49
Speaker
Yeah, which I mean, yeah, which those are the guys I think you want to lean on more long term and I think to get them more like, yeah, they're not gonna, I think you gotta just bite the bullet. Cause it's like, yeah, they're, you know, you gotta bite the bullet there cause they're coming off of injuries. So they're not going to have immediate, you know, they're not going to hop right back in and have that great production.
01:01:08
Speaker
coming back, but it's like, if you never give them those reps, if you don't give them that chance to get used to it again, they're, you know, they're not going to, they're not going to get used to it and they're not going to have great, great runs. So it's like, I feel like, I don't know, man, this was the game. I think this lion's game was the game to do it, to just kind of feed them the ball, load them more and get them back in the rhythm book. We'll see. Maybe they'll do that. Uh, do it against the Browns.
01:01:35
Speaker
get them going again. Yeah, because I don't know. I've been a huge fan of Deontay Foreman. I think he's done a great job, but I just don't think he's our long term, our long term solution or a long term option. I think definitely we want to go with, I mean, I at least personally would rather go with a Khalil Herbert, Roshan Johnson one, two there. Yeah, 100%.
01:01:56
Speaker
But yeah, we'll see. We'll see how it goes. I don't know. I struggle making any predictions, mostly because I don't know a whole lot about the Browns. And we'll see how the players do. The run defense has been the one thing that's been kind of faltering recently. I think that's due to a lot of interior injuries and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, they're past defenses. As good as it gets around the league.
01:02:26
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Hopefully Phil Snow was aware of that and whispers in Eva Fluss' ear. Yeah, I think so.
01:02:34
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yeah i think i mean i think we'll have a pretty when i think about it i mean joe flacko is doing good right now he's on it it seems like he's when you let him pass as much as they are he's pretty consistent so i think we'll have a pretty i'm not super high scoring game but i definitely think you know 20 to 30 between both teams
01:02:58
Speaker
My hope is that Justin Fields can get going. My hope is that we can get a run game going. My hope is that our defense continues to stop the run game. And I mean, we're on a great trend for takeaways. So hopefully our secondary can keep that up, especially with everyone healthy. And I think it just feels like everyone, it feels like everyone in that secondary is hungry.
01:03:19
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Everyone's hungry now. It seems like they're all like, you know, I just don't know how else to put it other than that. They're all hungry. They all want, you know, they all want to make plays. They all want to be involved in the play, which is really great to see. You got anything else? I totally forgot that the Browns got torched by the Rams. When was that? Two weeks ago. Oh, so recently by the Rams. Rams have been good. Rams offense has been really fucking good.
01:03:52
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Yeah, I mean, yeah, and the Browns, it's not like they, I mean, I didn't get to catch that game, but 27 to 31, that's not a super convincing win against the Jags. Yeah. They lost to the Broncos. Hmm, interesting. I mean, like, and I think, I mean, the Broncos one was probably before Flacco showed up, but still. Yeah, it was. Still, I mean, it'll be interesting.
01:04:16
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This is good. I'm glad this is happening. This is good. I think this will be great for Justin Fields' assessment. And I think just an overall assessment, too, of our defense is going to be going against an experienced passer, a veteran. So I didn't even know he was still, where's he been? Where's Joe Flacco been? Did he come out of?
01:04:34
Speaker
He's been retirement or is he just kind of been floating around? I think he's just been floating around. I think it's a free agent. I thought he was, I thought he had been done. No, he's just been, he's been in out of the league. Yeah. He should have been on the jets, but he wasn't. Well, that's about all I got for the game. I think you got anything. No. Um, just should be fun to evaluate and see where the offense is at. Yeah.
01:05:05
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I think this is more of an evaluation for the offense on the defense. Yeah, I think the defense has shown that it's, I mean, for, no, I think it has actually, it has shown that it's consistent.
01:05:21
Speaker
I don't think there's any big question marks on the defense right now. I think the defense has shown that it is for real. Watch them get blown out this game. Joe Flacco just dogs on our fucking defense. We'll see. It'll be interesting. I'm excited. I'm excited for this game. I did not think I was going to be excited about Bears football anymore for the rest of the season. But I am
Excitement for Bears' Season and Closing Remarks
01:05:45
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now. I'm excited again. We'll see.
01:05:47
Speaker
Excited for this game, excited for the Packers game, and excited to see how this season plays out overall. I think, again, this is just a wild season. It's just nuts.
01:05:55
Speaker
Mm hmm. All right. Um, with that, I think we will wrap up and we're going to move on to the part of the podcast where I ask Isaac, Isaac, what do you got for the people? Um, just my Instagram, E Y E Z E C K. Um, song dropped two day that I produced. Ooh. Yeah. Everything's updated on there.
01:06:21
Speaker
What are the vibes like in that song? Tell me about it. Funky rap. Funky rap. All right. I can dig it. Very cool.
01:06:33
Speaker
Uh, anything else or is that it? That's about it. Just the gram. Very cool. Uh, Stein's not here. So I will go check out his other podcast. Uh, chick flicks with dicks. He does that with his buddy, Alex. Very funny, very good time. Uh, anywhere you find podcasts, you can find it. And if you can't find it somewhere, let him know so he can put it on there.
01:06:53
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You can follow me at OHMARDaniel on Instagram. I just dropped an album. Go check that out. It's wherever you listen to music. You can find that just OmarDaniel, no H, my regular name.
01:07:09
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01:07:33
Speaker
here we are it's uh back to a good time i'd say at least at least interesting and entertaining to watch um yeah we'll be back next week after the bears go against the cleveland browns um if everything goes the way it should i mean it'll be back to full strength here we'll have uh stein back and it'll be the three amigos talking about the uh talking about the bears and then i've seen north again so
01:07:59
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with that i will say have a good week um yeah have a good have a great week and uh chin up and bear down