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Episode 8: The Chicago Bears vs The Denver Broncos
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This week, the boys recap some of the drama of the week and recap the heartbreaking loss to the Broncos. They also give the NFC North another vibe check and talk about this short week and the game coming up on Thursday. Give it a listen and Bear Down!
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Bears vs Broncos Pep Talk
00:00:00
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with the Bears big sports people. Sorry. I was going to ask for a pep talk. Can you get what. No don't be. Hey look it's going to happen. I go to the bears.
00:00:12
Speaker
Not bad. For Bears fans out there, we're down a little bit. We're not out. I think we have a chance of winning the next two, which will put us at three and two. What do you guys think? You don't have a chance of winning the next two games. Why are you saying that? I'm just being a realist. Come on, the Bears. That is completely insane. They're playing the Broncos. They just gave up 70 points. That's right.
00:00:30
Speaker
Yeah, they have a chance. No, they are like angry badgers. Hey, Chicago, don't listen. The bears, the Broncos lost by 70 points they gave up. They're going to be so angry, they're going to come out firing. So the bears have got to be at a high level. If they don't match that energy, it's going to go down quickly. So they have to find something. The bears have got to dig deeper.
00:00:57
Speaker
And they have to find something that's, what are we here for? They've got to answer that question. What are we here for? Are we just going through the motions? Are we going to be doing something special? To be in that locker room. Do something special. Let's go, baby. Let's go. Come on, baby. Do something special. You got this. Hey, I believe in you. Let's go. Let's go, baby. Let's go. Make it happen.
00:01:20
Speaker
Alright, so if you guys weren't able to figure that out, that was Brian Cranston and then Aaron Paul.
Introducing the Bearclaw Podcast
00:01:29
Speaker
So that was Aaron Paul and Brian Cranston of Breaking Bad Fame. They were in an interview and the interviewer was asking them just basically how they felt about the Bears and the Broncos game this weekend and they gave their opinion.
00:01:43
Speaker
I just thought that was a cool little clip. So I wanted to share that with you guys. But before we dig into that a little bit and get into this episode, it's important that we do an intro. So I am your host Omar Delgado with me, Zachary Stein, also known as Stein. And I'll go Isaac Turgeon, Packers fan extraordinaire. This is the Bearclaw podcast. Thank you for joining us. Let's get right into it.
Are the Bears the Worst Team?
00:02:12
Speaker
We lost.
00:02:14
Speaker
Are we the worst team in the NFL now? Yes.
00:02:18
Speaker
Isaac had no Panthers Panthers looked pretty fucking bad with pretty bad All right. So let's give some updates and cleanups I don't think there's any cleanups from last week any mistakes that we made or anything because we're flawless But we are going to talk about a few things starting with Starting with Chase Claypool so last week he made public comments saying that he felt he was not being utilized properly and
00:02:49
Speaker
Um, which caused a little bit of drama. And then we found out, I think, uh, when did they, did they, when did they announce it? Was that Friday or Saturday? I think it was Friday, wasn't it? No, it was not. Cause the team didn't, wasn't notified until Saturday. So Saturday we find out he was, he was listed as an active and it was, he was a healthy scratch. No injuries, no nothing. You can't help but feel like it had to do something with the comments. 100% it had to do with the comments.
00:03:16
Speaker
Yeah. So since then, now we are
Chase Claypool Drama
00:03:20
Speaker
finding out, according to NFL insider Jordan Schultz, our GM, Brian Pols, is looking to trade him, possibly for a fifth or sixth round pick, to any team who might want him. I have to imagine that list is pretty short though, given his attitude and play here.
00:03:36
Speaker
So I doubt it. I think for a fifth or sixth round, we might be able to get them. But what a fucking waste. Biggest, biggest, biggest mistake thus far. Yeah. Of any, of any that pulse has pulled off in bringing in Claypool for what we give up the 30 second pick. I think it ended up being the 32nd overall. Yeah. So I mean, okay. Well, I mean, but you referenced his comments, right? His comments last week following last week's game, the frustration, and he felt like he's not being utilized properly.
00:04:05
Speaker
Do you agree? I think it's hard to utilize someone properly when they're not giving effort and when they have a bad attitude. See, but up. After week one, weeks two and three, he was absolutely trying harder and he really was going out there and giving us more than he had. Yeah, that's fair. I don't think he's totally innocent, though. And
00:04:34
Speaker
Yeah, maybe he's not being utilized properly, but also, I mean, what have you shown outside the past two weeks as far as effort and ability?
Evaluating Claypool's Performance
00:04:42
Speaker
Nothing, at least to me, nothing that, you know, to me, nothing that makes him, you know, extremely valuable, I think. Well, I think he's positioned himself to be valuable when he wasn't with the bears. Yeah. Right. I mean, his performance when he was with the Steelers was good. It was above good. So there are huge issues here.
00:05:02
Speaker
related to Eberflux and his handling of all of this. Yeah, I think this is a little bit, yeah, it's starting to show that this thing is starting to fall apart at the seams, you know, where it's like, I think, and I think this is the start of it, is him losing the locker room and Claypool being more willing. I think he's probably one of the ones more willing to speak out against the organization and against, you know, maybe even the coaching. Well, I get the feeling from talking with DJ Moore. Have you listened to his stuff? Yeah, he's pretty frustrated too.
00:05:29
Speaker
and you can tell by the tone and the way that he answers questions and the facial expressions he gives. I'm taking a lot of what he has going on with his general vibe and what he's putting off and not just what he's saying, but what he's not saying that he can't afford.
00:05:48
Speaker
to just come out and say what Chase has said. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I also get a feeling that he might actually also agree with some of it. I mean, that's my interpretation of it.
Jenkins' Return & Defensive Changes
00:05:59
Speaker
Yeah. That's why I think that there's a lot going on that we're not privy to. Aware of when we would be if we had hard knocks. God damn it. Give us hard knocks. Give us the first and second picks. That's why. Yeah. Like you're saying what's not being said is just as important. And I think we have yet to hear a truly positive
00:06:17
Speaker
A truly positive, unprompted good thing about the coaching staff or the calls being made. Moving on from Claypool though, another update we got is that Tevin Jenkins is going to be returning from injured reserve. So that's good. Hopefully he can come back, hopefully he can play and he can just jump right back in and not miss a step, although he probably will miss at least one step.
00:06:41
Speaker
He hasn't played a NFL game since last year, at least not one that wasn't pre-season. So there's probably going to be some rust there. We also found out that Matt Iberfus announced that he's going to be calling the defense the rest of the season, if he's with us the rest of the season. I'm just going to say, we should edit that to say the rest of his season. All right. So that's
Bears vs Broncos Game Recap
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it for the updates. Let's get into our recap of week four, Bears versus Broncos.
00:07:08
Speaker
Uh, in general, how did you, how did you feel about this game? How do you feel now? I will go back to, I think my comment about, I feel like the coaching staff is not supportive of fields.
00:07:31
Speaker
do believe that the game scheme for this was more in his favor and it should have been as soon as they were going against one of the worst defenses in the league. This was supposed to be.
00:07:43
Speaker
like a game where we could actually get some things to click. And I think we saw some things click. It was nice to see the run game gain some good traction. The O-line did what they needed to. Fields came out and was executing, executing, executing. I mean, we had, what, 26 first downs, which is, I think that tripled what we got in the last game. Yeah. Man.
00:08:14
Speaker
If you asked me about the first three and a half quarters, that was fucking exciting. It was great to see what we could be. It was good to see the potential and it was good for fields to walk out and lead. He looked confident and he played even more confident. Absolutely he did. I think one of the big criticisms that he's had is not taking what's there.
00:08:44
Speaker
And then at least from what I saw, it looked like he dropped back. He saw something was open and he just fucking zipped it. It looked like he made the reads much better in this. It looked mean. He looked so confident and I loved it. Yeah, starting off the game was I was having so much fun. I actually won 16 straight passes, 16 straight completions. He broke a record. That's the longest streak.
Kolkamet's Potential
00:09:06
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Good. That's the longest streak of completions in Bears history.
00:09:12
Speaker
Uh, which is impressive. Um, being able to see some of the others, you know, Mooney had stepped up and had some good receptions. I think he had like six or seven for a decent yardage. And, um, uh, but being able to see, you know, Sam Brown out there was fantastic. I love watching him play. Um, I wish he got more time. I'm glad he got.
00:09:35
Speaker
a little bit more action in this one. An opportunity. He had that hell of a catch. I mean, and I think part of that, and then DJ Moore, right, he was out there with 131 yards this game, most that he's had is a bear, and then, I think that he's a, you could see that all of them, and then Cole Comette, right, he had two TDs, made some really good catches, couple of decent blocks, like, I mean, he looked good. How do you feel
00:10:02
Speaker
Overall, about Kolkamet. I like Kolkamet. I think that he has a ton of potential and he's got the right attitude. He has like I love listening to his post game stuff and yeah, it would be great if we could get him clicking as much with fields because he is he is physical. He is aggressive. I think he could be a hell of a fucking titan in this in this industry and.
00:10:29
Speaker
I think he just needs to really find the reason to step up into that and put in that extra time and literally just bro down with his quarterback.
00:10:41
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almost exclusively for a while.
Critical Game Moments
00:10:43
Speaker
Sure. You get that with with Gronk and Brady, you get that with Kelsey and Mahomes. Like, that's that's just what you got to do. Yeah. So but I like him. I thought that he he had a hell of a game. Yeah, I still have faith in Kolkamet. I think for whatever reason, Bears fans just don't stick with him, at least online. It seems like they're always pretty quick to bash him. And I've seen him. Other people, other people breaking it down, too. He is so pretty.
00:11:09
Speaker
Uh, he's too pretty. He's so pretty. Um, but, and I've seen other people too, like, you know, analysts and stuff, break it down and really harp on him and not, and say he's pretty much just bad. But, uh, yeah, I still have faith in Colcomet. I still really like Colcomet maybe because of how pretty he is, but I also just think he's a great piece to have. And I think him and Justin have grown together. It's been cool seeing them, you know, this far. And I think if they can really lock that in, it'd be really great.
00:11:38
Speaker
My biggest frustration came when the Broncos adjusted to the scheme and the scheme didn't adjust back. If anything, they went more conservative again. And I was like, bitch, what makes you think that we can ever be conservative? Yeah, we have to be aggressive here.
00:11:56
Speaker
They got 70 put on them last week and you put your points on them in the first half. Why would you not keep trying to, you know, keep the gas going? Keep going. The call. The call style went back against against Justin. And that was that was something I was thinking, too. I was watching going in the first half. I was like, OK, we saw this, the plays and stuff. This is going really well. And then I started thinking, Sean Payton. Has had a pretty a really good career.
00:12:25
Speaker
And I knew he was going to adjust. And I knew too, I was like, is he going to, even if he was going to adjust, are we going to be able to, you know, adjust back? And like you said, we didn't, that didn't happen. But I felt good about this game.
00:12:39
Speaker
I felt great. It was great watching Justin be confident. It was great watching the Bears have fun again. It was great watching the Bears fans get to have fun and smile and laugh and then get rowdy for, you know, for three quarters. It was, it was great. I was, I was having a great time and I was just like, this is, this is what we've been waiting for. This is what I expected us to be, uh, three games ago at the beginning of the season, but it took us four games and playing against one of the worst teams in the league to get going.
00:13:08
Speaker
very mixed bag on this one. This is the first time that I have felt
00:13:14
Speaker
hopeful in what I've seen from the execution of some of our quote unquote playmakers. We actually got to see some of the playmakers make fucking plays. And we absolutely should have because it was the goddamn Broncos who are a travesty right now as well. So this was supposed to be a game where we would be able to see people come out and show out. And I think for the most part, they did. Absolutely.
00:13:40
Speaker
Yeah. Minus a couple of plays. Yeah. Minus, yeah. So I'm with you on the mixed bag thing, because the loss sucked. But before and even now, I don't feel it sucks that we lost. It sucks that we're on four. It is. But in them play that play together the way that they did was really great.
00:13:57
Speaker
I don't know if this is like a defense mechanism, you know, survival mechanism of like, no, I see hope, you know, I see, like, and very well could be this is, it's my response to trauma, right? Yeah.
Coaching Critique
00:14:09
Speaker
But I mean, fields going 16 of 17 in the first half. Yeah, 16 straight completions. And the only incompletion he had came on that on a Hail Mary Hail Mary.
00:14:19
Speaker
Like, do you know what the odds are of making a Hail Mary completion on a Hail Mary? I'm sure that stat is out there, but it's not in favor of the quarterback. I know that. Given that, Jesus, that's fucking awesome. And then going into the second half, through the second half, he was 23 to 24 still. That first half was fantastic. The run game finally caught
00:14:45
Speaker
you know, was finally working. Yeah, we were finally able to establish it. Fields still did not have many carries, but he definitely extended the play a couple more times. You can tell that they were
00:14:59
Speaker
They were trying to leverage him a little bit better, at least in the first half. Honestly, Bronco's defense did not have an answer for it. He was part of the field with two of their starting safeties out. He did what he should have done. 100%. He took advantage of it.
00:15:20
Speaker
And it just didn't seem like Russell Wilson could keep up. Yeah. First half. He's a shadow of his former self, I think. I mean, he's definitely still above average. You know, he can still he can hang in there long enough. And he's also been in the league long enough. He's been through so much like he he knows how to outlast. Right. Sure. And I think that ultimately by the end of the game, that's what ended up happening. He just kept with it. And yeah, he wasn't great, but he
00:15:48
Speaker
He did what he did his job. He did what he needed to. Yeah. I think McLaughlin did a really great job too. He, uh, he came in for the running back. That was, uh, they're starting running back. That was hurt. And I think McLaughlin, he was, he just had a great, you know, great runs and great yards after con after contact too. Do you know much about him? I don't know. I didn't, I had no idea who the fuck this guy was. Honestly. Oh, so Julia McLaughlin is a rookie.
00:16:17
Speaker
out of Youngstown State. Holy shit. I did not realize this. Sorry. Can I share his stats real quick? 72 rushing yards on seven carries for 10.3 average. Catching all three targets for an additional 32 yards and a touchdown. So the Broncos gave him the game ball. Probably because he's the one who delivered regularly throughout the game for them. Yeah, he was great.
00:16:48
Speaker
Yeah, great first half, even a great third quarter, but things kind of started to fall apart as we got later into the game and started getting closer to the end. You could feel the excitement shifting. You could feel it became a little... That pit in your stomach of like, oh, they're going to screw this up too. They're going to find a way. Yeah, you could feel it.
Fields' Fumble Analysis
00:17:08
Speaker
I don't know when this coaching staff is going to learn the lesson of letting Justin Fields be Justin Fields.
00:17:12
Speaker
Like the whole fucking game the entire game. Don't unleash the dog in the first half and then chain him back up. Yeah. That just doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah. Especially know that your defense is hurting and can't apply any pressure even to fucking Russell Wilson. Yeah. This is a game we absolutely should have been able to show out.
00:17:35
Speaker
Um, put applying pressure and change the defensive scheme. We have a defensive minded head coach who's making all the calls now. Like I don't understand how you can't hold on to 28 to seven lead, you know, which brings us up to, I think at that point, the, the couple of big plays, the big issues, right? That, that ultimately ended up costing us the game. Yep. The first one being a Justin Fields fumble off of a naked boot. Uh, we were talking earlier that.
00:18:06
Speaker
I don't think that was his fault
00:18:08
Speaker
I think he, I think it was just against the scheme against a good play call from the defense. You know what I mean? A good play call from the Broncos. Yeah. Just a bad matchup. And I think there's not much you can do. I remember hearing an announcer that was commenting on it being like, Oh, fields didn't feel him coming off of the edge. And I'm like, there's no way where he's going to have Spidey sense. You can't feel that there's not a quarterback in the league that's going to know and feel that person coming. Oh, literally all he turned around. The guy was right in his face. And he, I mean, he tried to get rid of it, I think. And that's part of why, you know,
00:18:38
Speaker
The fumble happened and then even then after that he had great he chased him down all the way to the touch to the end zone trying to get the tackle trying to stop the uh The fumble and the score the scooping score. No, so even then still just great effort and I just I don't I could have just stood there or laid there, you know, and he didn't know he he did hustle and that's something that I appreciate and those are those little things that like I I want to see and it
00:19:06
Speaker
big piece for me here was listening to, I mean, dozens of analysts and many of whom are former quarterbacks from the NFL who would say like nine times out of 10, that is going to be a fun time. That's what's going to happen. That's what's going to happen. It's a naked boot and there is nothing you can do when you get that pressure from both sides like that. It does not matter. It's going to happen.
00:19:32
Speaker
unless he happened to like know he was right there to be able to tuck that ball very carefully. Yeah, it's just like I would have dropped it too. You know, so again, I think my big thing is not making excuses for fields at all for this one. I don't think that that one is necessarily his fault because I think it was just a bad play call versus a great play call. Yeah, that the matchup just
00:20:00
Speaker
It was 100 percent. I think he gets I think he gets graded on a harsher scale, too.
Pressure on Justin Fields
00:20:05
Speaker
And then maybe that's because he hasn't shown as much as maybe other great quarterbacks in the league have shown. But I do think it's like quarterbacks are going to fumble, quarterbacks are going to throw interceptions, quarterbacks are going to make bad decisions sometimes. That's just part of the game. And so I think the issue with this one, this theme severity of when it happened. Right. Yeah. Like that's it's the timing. Sure. It's kind of like it's kind of like
00:20:29
Speaker
If you watch the Chiefs Jets game, you know, Zach Wilson actually had a shot at beating the fucking Chiefs. Yeah. And blew it. Yeah. And that's, and it happened. I mean, he's a younger too, you know, but like, but it happens in the biggest moment. Sure. And that's, and that's what people remember. Yeah, that's fair. Is can you deliver in the biggest moments? Cause if you can't.
00:20:53
Speaker
Are you going to be one of the better ones? And that's going to be the difference maker between the greats and the have-beens. Are you able to perform and execute and deliver in those situations? And so far, unfortunately, Fields has not been able to do that. Now, I don't think he's been put in great positions holistically throughout his career. I feel like he gets put in that position a lot more than he should.
00:21:23
Speaker
You know, it should not be every single game that he is like in a, Oh, this is it or nothing moment. And you have to save us or, yeah, there's only so much that you can do for this organization. And that's why, yeah, I think you're right. I think he, he does absolutely take up.
00:21:40
Speaker
harsher critique from people. So with naked bootlegs, are they intended to have only four defensive rushers? Or if you see a fifth one, do you kind of can it and go to a different one? Because they had like clear five rushers on the line. And that last one was the one that went untouched. Like all the all the blockers were taken up. I mean, I don't see how schematically that guy is going to get covered.
00:22:09
Speaker
so with your naked bootleg he he it's supposed i believe that the tackle is supposed to get a chip basically just enough just enough to bump him off throughout like
00:22:24
Speaker
And I know that that did not happen. He came through completely untouched. And I want to say that it was Wright who owned that, who basically said, I absolutely should have had something there. And unfortunately, that's the design of the play. You're susceptible to that. Yeah.
00:22:45
Speaker
Um, and if you don't get that extra second, which a lot of times is all Justin Fields needs is just that one extra second to either get around or at least recognize it, which is why it's not necessarily like a bad play to have in the playbook. When you have someone like Fields, it's just, you need to make sure that you are executing all of the other spots. Yeah. Exactly how you're supposed to. And it just got missed. It got missed. And I think that, you know, again, that comes down to.
00:23:09
Speaker
The age issue, right? Like Wright is a rookie. I think he's really good.
Impact of Youth & Inexperience
00:23:16
Speaker
I think he's far above average for rookie offensive tackles. It's just...
00:23:22
Speaker
Unfortunately, because of the offensive line that he's a part of you, it is so easy to like spot what he is missing in his toolkit. Uh, as a rookie, you know, there's things that he absolutely has to work on. And like he also is the one responsible for missing the block on the fourth and one.
00:23:50
Speaker
You know, and again, I see it now. There's a tight end to the right of commit and he didn't do anything. He just went straight off the line. I think he probably should have gotten a chip. Someone is supposed to get a chip there. And I believe that they're supposed to like shift down a little bit. He went straight into running a route that tight end. I think if I'm trying to remember.
00:24:09
Speaker
Who it wasn't commit it was it was it tanyan? It must have been tanyan was in motion coming under the line. Yeah That's who that's who was like the first read dude. That would have been an easy like 10 yards, but Yeah, I think someone just missed the chip. So that fourth and one that you're mentioning is that this one that uh
00:24:27
Speaker
This one that's noted here.
Fourth Down Decision Debate
00:24:29
Speaker
It's really fourth and half. It was like fourth and half a yard, right? Fourth and half a yard is what we needed. We were set up. We either go for the field goal.
00:24:41
Speaker
Or we try to get the first down. There's three minutes left, little under three minutes. We get the first down at that point where basically the game would be ours. Like, right. Like we could control the clock and it would be a nice, easy chip kick for Santos that theoretically we should have won. We should have been the ones winning 31 to 28.
00:25:03
Speaker
Now, this is where a lot of people are having the big conversations this week of was that the right call to go for it instead of taking the field goal? Yeah. Where do you land? I land in the camp of, yes, I think it was the right call to go for first, mostly because we'd been pretty successful with the run game.
00:25:23
Speaker
And we'd been successful with the run game and the defense had not been successful in stopping Denver, especially in the second half. And the last thing you need to do is, yes, Russell Wilson may be the shadow of his once amazing self. However, even his shadow is better than the average quarterback in this league. Giving him and Sean Payton a two minute drill against a defense that cannot stop them. I don't have faith in that.
00:25:52
Speaker
having the running capacity that we had shown throughout the game, even in the second half, when we were not able to like execute and earn, you know, gain as much points and such. But we were still able to like get out there and run some pretty good plays and like hold the ball for a bit and like still have a decent time of possession. But. Eventually just get stopped, right? Yeah. But I still was like, well, fuck it, go for it. Why the thing I don't agree with?
00:26:22
Speaker
is the play call, the play selection that they used for it. Why go out of shotgun when you know that the Philly special that they used the last couple of weeks works?
Controversial Play Calls
00:26:32
Speaker
Get under center, fucking push it. If you do it right, it's shown itself to be unstoppable to the point of people being like, you should ban it. Justin Fields right there. Why would you not do that? They've also been running that weird tight end sneak.
00:26:46
Speaker
What do you think of that? As a former tight end, I fucking love that. It's just cool to see guys. I don't know. I feel like it seems like it's really easy to have the right and stuff. You have to have the right.
00:27:07
Speaker
personnel for that, I think for sure. Yeah. But like, cause Kansas city does similar things with Kelsey where he'll take a direct snap, but he'll also hand off too. You know, so it's like, it's, and I think that the percentage on whether he hands off or whether he takes it is almost a 50 50. So it's a little intentionally that probably, yeah, like who's going to get it supposed to do. So I don't know.
00:27:32
Speaker
Um, but why, why would you not take it under center and push for the half a fucking yard foot and a half? Like that's what you need. And yeah, just so for me, that's where I land. What about you? I see where you're coming from. I don't know. I've, but.
00:27:52
Speaker
Maybe it's just my bias and me being sick of Matt Iberfus at this point and wanting to just bash him for any decision he makes. But I initially didn't feel like it was a great decision. But I could see where you're coming from. And I guess thinking about it, it's not totally unreasonable and not a terrible call considering that our defense had not been able to stop them.
00:28:15
Speaker
considering that we had been doing pretty good offensively against him in general and had a pretty good amount of first downs. So yeah, I mean, initially, like I said, I just said, I didn't agree with it, but I can see, I can see where you're coming from. I can see it not being a terrible decision. I just, I don't know. I just, it's just Matt Iberfus. I'm just so annoyed with him at this point and just done. I just am sick of him.
00:28:37
Speaker
But I mean, should have, could have, would have, you know, maybe they would have, like you're saying, I mean, they could have given Russell with Wilson and Sean Payton to two pretty, two people who have cemented themselves in the NFL and the minds of NFL people as greats in their positions. Maybe that's not such a good idea, given them ball with two minutes left.
00:28:58
Speaker
So giving them the ball with two minutes left against a defense that has literally been walked all over the majority of the second half. Yeah. And the majority of the season. Like, yeah. So in my, and I think that's the reason that I'm like, fuck it, go for it. But, but do it with the right play call. Yeah. Don't do it. Just up the middle with the shotgun. Yeah. That's the thing. The shotgun thing is really, I was not, I was like, okay. And then there's a miss, but is that ever whoever does that? Yeah. And so for me, it's, that was my issue.
Defensive Failures
00:29:27
Speaker
Granted, even on, uh, if they had made a better play call, they still could have missed that block. Yeah. So who knows? Yeah. If they had gotten it, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. We'd be talking about how, how gutsy and bald. Yeah. Yeah.
00:29:46
Speaker
how it really shifted. It would have surely shifted the, you know, and that's why, that's why I still, that's why I have to say I agreed with going there because at this point we fucking needed it. And think about the excitement that we had going throughout that game up until that point, you know, it's like, we need to earn it back. We need to show that we can, we can rise up to these moments and to these occasions and especially at home, especially in front of our crowd and finalize this thing.
00:30:14
Speaker
And so, yeah, I was totally in support of it. We didn't get it. Cool. Okay. Well, then make a stop. Defense didn't make a stop. So in my mind, I'm like, well, then what makes me ever think they would have made the stop to begin with if we had gone for the cake?
00:30:30
Speaker
But that piece is what remains the same in either of those versions of that argument. So to me, going for it made sense. Yeah, it doesn't make a difference.
Fields' Interception
00:30:39
Speaker
Yeah, I get you. That's fair. Because not just that, not only would we have gone for a field goal if necessary, but we still would have had potential to actually score another touchdown. Yeah.
00:30:51
Speaker
Who knows? So, final mistake. The one that pretty much sealed the game was Justin Fields' interception. He was trying to pass the coquemet. So that interception pretty much sealed the game. But I don't think that was...
00:31:07
Speaker
That's another one that I don't discount too much. And I don't think that's a fatal, I don't think that's a fatal, like, I don't think it was a fatal mistake or just like a crazy screw up on Justin Fields part or on Colcomette's part. I just think it was a slight miscommunication between the two of them. And I mean, the ball wasn't placed horribly or whatever. It just, you can just tell Colcomette kept going where Justin Fields thought he was going to stop. And there's not much you can do about that.
00:31:32
Speaker
Yeah, that happens. It's in listening to the post-game interviews with both of them. Fields broke it down very, he owned it for sure, as he should. He's the leader. That's part of leadership is unfortunately
00:31:53
Speaker
Ultimately what ends up happening if you're the general. Yeah, you take what ends up happening is on you is on you and that's part of the responsibility of being in that position But He made the comment that commit ran the route how he should have how he was supposed to his feeling with how they were clicking and how everything had been going and based on the moment and like
00:32:20
Speaker
What ended up happening during the play, the coverage that shifted during the play was that the safety sat back. Was that the safety sat back so that he thought commit would be able to like basically run and sit right just where he was right, right where he needed to, which is where he placed the ball and commit actually was running basically what the textbook would tell you to do. And I think that's where we were discussing this. This highlights.
00:32:48
Speaker
just how young and inexperienced these guys are with each other, especially. Right. Like they don't have that connection that we get from Brady and Graff that we got or got from them that we get from Kelsey and Mahomes of. Oh, no, I know that 98 percent of the time I'm going to be running this, but the rest of the time I'm just going to make shit up because in that moment I need to. I know that I'm the fucking guy that's going to be the one to do it. He's going to need to
00:33:17
Speaker
We need to get on that same page. That's a wavelength. And I don't think they've spent enough time together yet to have that. I think they were really feeling it that day. They were really clicking. Again, this is one of those moments. If it had gone the other way. We'd be talking about how great chemistry they had, how, you know, how they're clicking now and how it's- If anything, they probably would, no one would have known that he didn't run the route. That he had changed it. You know what I mean? And so until they discussed it in the post game,
00:33:46
Speaker
interviews. Unfortunately, this was one of those ones that Fields took ownership for, but Comatte did too on his end. He said, look man, that was a miscommunication on our part and we need to get that down. I know why he threw where he threw and I know why I ran where I ran and I think
00:34:10
Speaker
I think that's him needing to be able to go against what is coached into him the rest of the time.
00:34:18
Speaker
All right. So that sealed the game. That gave the Broncos a win. Can you guess who was the last person to hold a record for most consecutive completions to start a game for
Fields vs Past Bears QBs
00:34:30
Speaker
Chicago Bears? I saw this name. I can't remember it. I saw it a few times though. It was in 2000. Shane, Shane D. Shane Dorr Darwell. Shane. The fuck was the quarterback in 2000? Shane Matthews. Shane Matthews.
00:34:48
Speaker
The goat. Give me some deets on Shane Matthews. Oh, is there something I'm missing here? I was going to say because I'm not... I've never heard that name in my entire life. I didn't even know that was a Bears quarterback. Okay, hang on a second. Get rid of all this shit. Shane Matthews. He was a gator.
00:35:10
Speaker
What are you talking about? Oh, he's a Florida gator. Yeah, just saw that. He's an old gator. That was before I said why I became a gator fan when I was like, oh, he would have been right after or right before I became one.
00:35:28
Speaker
I was like seven when I saw six, six when I saw my first six about to turn seven when I saw my first Gator football game on TV. Wow. And they were doing the Gator Chomp and that's the reason that I like, you know, as a little kid, I was like, Oh, that's so cool. You don't like that. I don't know. So that was before your time then.
00:35:47
Speaker
He was the SEC player of the year in 91 and 92.
Fields' Emotional Reaction Post-Game
00:35:51
Speaker
That's common knowledge. Oh, yeah. Common knowledge. Get the fuck out of here. Crazy. He's coming at you hard today. All right. So we lost the game.
00:36:05
Speaker
I want to go into Justin Fields and then overall the organization, and then I think naturally we're going to go into... Look, this is a family-friendly podcast, okay? You need to watch your mouth now how you're talking about going into Justin Fields. Oh, all right. Okay, here we go. Here we go.
00:36:23
Speaker
But I wanted to talk about Justin Fields and then I think it'll and then talk about the organization overall And I think naturally we'll go towards the coaches, but I would where do you think this puts us? Besides besides the bottom of the league Well
00:36:39
Speaker
Man, I don't know. I feel for feelings. Did you see him? He looked defeated, man. That's kind of tough, dude. Even like the reporters coming out of the locker room, they were like, we've been in locker rooms where people are just like, what the fuck just happened? How did this happen? Like just like those like thousand yard stairs, you know, just of like being a million miles away. And they're like, this might be one of the worst ones I've ever
00:37:06
Speaker
I think someone was saying that he was, yeah, someone was saying that he was still in there like half an hour after the game, just like in his pads, full gear, just like spaced out.
00:37:16
Speaker
Yeah. And can you blame him? No, this is so hard to think about how fucking good he did through this game and to still come up short. And it still wasn't good enough. You know, like that's 14 losses that the Broncos are the 14th straight team to score 25 plus points on the Bears. More NFL first team in NFL history. Hey, we're in the record books, baby. Like it just.
00:37:47
Speaker
Yeah. Like you got it from his point of view. And we only got one sack and it was a split sack. No one even got full credit to that. It was split. And it was, I just, I don't blame him. I feel for him. I personally.
00:38:04
Speaker
I hope to God that he can go back and look at the game film and see how good he did. And I hope that the rest of the team can also do that. Here's what we did right. Here's what we did right. We got to keep doing. And honest to God, if it comes...
00:38:20
Speaker
Getzi first half deserved an award because the play
Coaching Staff Criticisms
00:38:24
Speaker
calling was great. It was absolutely phenomenal, completely different from the first three weeks. Second half Getzi, I want to kick right in the fucking taint again. God damn it. Do not let off the gas, ever.
00:38:37
Speaker
Ever cuz we're not gonna keep teams so Low points nice season. It doesn't seem like this defense isn't clicking and it's still really banged up So and I think there was 11 plays after the fumble That they called and I think only two of them are pass plays So obviously he lost trust in fields even after like a stellar performance like that Yeah, it almost like he's babysitting field sometimes
00:39:04
Speaker
lost trust or he still pretended like he was trying to manage game time to run it down to where to run the clock down to where we would be able to.
00:39:13
Speaker
pull it off in the last minute or something. And I'm like, what the fuck makes you think we're going to do that? With my goddamn run place. It's the good thing. I don't know. I feel like it does seem like online at least. And not even just Bears fans, but, you know, NFL fans and other people are looking and being like, this coaching is fucking awful. Like, oh, yeah. To the point they're pitying Bears fans and being like, guys, this sucks for you guys. Like, this is awful.
00:39:40
Speaker
Well, I've seen people in supportive fields too and being like, yeah, that was a, that, that play sucked, right? Like that sucked. But ultimately the play calls what sucked. And ultimately the play calling after that is what sucked. And it put him in that position again is what's fucking boring. I think where this puts us is like, we have a really great and just, it's not, this is nothing, you know.
00:40:03
Speaker
a deep analysis is pretty obvious. Like I said, you know, everyone online can see it, but I think we have a really great roster and guys that are at the very least are putting forth effort. Because you see some of those runs that Herbert had, you see some of the effort that Justin Fields was making that our receivers are making that even though our defense wasn't doing good, they were still putting forth effort and trying. Yeah, yeah, that certainly didn't go out. But a great roster that is that wants to win and is trying their hardest and is being held back by coaching.
00:40:31
Speaker
by coaching or lack thereof. And so for me, where does this put us with fields? Was that your question? Yeah, I mean, just a little bit with fields. I mean, do you still think? I still think he needs to go. He needs to go. Because this organization has made it very fucking clear that they're not going to do what they need to do to develop him or build a scheme full fucking game around him to support him. At the very least trust him through and through and be as invested in him as he
00:41:00
Speaker
You know, whether he is fully or not, Justin Fields at least tries to give the impression that he is fully trusting of the coaching staff. And I don't think that has been reciprocated. I think at this point, it's a script now. Yeah, I think he's doing what he needs to do because he's still under that contract. And yeah, I think he doesn't believe it as much anymore. And he should he absolutely should fucking know. No, yeah, you shouldn't trust him. You shouldn't trust him with the damn. Do you think even even if we got rid of the coaches, would you still want fields to get out of here? Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:29
Speaker
They're not going to bring in a nope. It's going to be hard to find a coach that's willing to come in to this goddamn dumpster fire and like turn it around. I mean, Ryan Paul's built a bunch of this with Eberflux, right? Like with this idea in mind, the personnel that we went out and traded for, the personnel that we went out and traded traded spots for, for like are based on the conversations he had with Eberflux. Like Fluce is the one that
00:41:56
Speaker
helped so much in building what we have or truly what we don't have yeah, and so at that point I think it's gonna be a clean house situation and I fully support fields getting the fuck out of here and hopefully landing with the team where Where he will get someone that can what it was saying to be good with the Falcons I saw
00:42:16
Speaker
Watch Geno, like, like take the Geno route, right? Yeah. You know, find the situation that fits you. I want more than anything for him to be the guy and I love him so much, but I just, yeah. I mean, if he goes and if he does take the Geno route, I wouldn't blame him and I would support him a hundred percent wherever he goes. I love Justin Fields. He's great. Or if the Bears picked up like Ben Johnson as our head coach, the Lions OC.
Justin Fields' Future with Bears
00:42:44
Speaker
You would have to at least see what he can do in that system, right? Not saying it's going to happen, but I think I'm not saying I'm not saying he needs to go like he needs to go with these people. If these people remain here, he needs to leave.
00:43:03
Speaker
If a new system came in, I feel like he would end up going mostly because it's going to be fine. Someone that's willing to bring him in and try to try him out in their system, right? Unless they know that they're going to do a rebuild year and he's willing to play through that and try to earn that spot. And maybe that system does work for him and he does get a coaching staff that actually provides development and support for him.
00:43:29
Speaker
then maybe that could work. But, you know, I just don't see him staying long term. Shit does not, shit's not going to get fixed right now. It's just not. Not this season. Eberfluis has to go. He's got to get the fuck out. He's making terrible calls. He does not have the right people working with him very clearly. Getzi is, Getzi is fucking worthless to me. I mean,
00:43:55
Speaker
Yeah, he showed a little glimmer of brilliance in that first half with the scheme. And then he made a terrible fucking choice. And then he made another terrible fucking choice of not adjusting when necessary on multiple occasions. Oh, if anything.
00:44:10
Speaker
What have you done? What at all have you done? You have built this. We've talked nonstop leading into this season about polls and Iberfluis wanting to build the, fuck what's the word I'm looking for? The culture, right? The culture of the team.
00:44:29
Speaker
Tell me more about your culture. Tell me more about the culture of not winning, of not finishing games, of having a defensive coordinator that is gone after the first game due to inappropriate behavior that still has not been clarified or explained. We still don't have any understandings with that. A culture where you're going out there and giving mixed messages on whether or not you told one of your star wide receivers to come to the game or not. Yep. You can't get your facts straight even about what's going on in your own team.
00:44:59
Speaker
even when multiple reporters are working together to break it down into the simplest fucking second-grader terms for you to understand the goddamn question and you can't give a straight answer. And then was he told, like the whole thing about, I don't know Omar, if you want to find the clip from his post game, but that bit
Criticism of Coach Eberflus
00:45:20
Speaker
specifically about Claypool and like, was it his choice or did you tell him not to come?
00:45:30
Speaker
And like that whole interaction that he had with the media at the time, y'all need to go listen to it. Cause it is like, what are you trying to say? Yeah, it's like a second grade boy.
00:45:41
Speaker
backtracking nonstop and stumbling over words and be like, sorry, what was the question? What are you asking? Don't do that. Don't guess like my question. Don't, you fucking cunt. Don't do that to me. I'm a grown ass man. I know better than that. Yeah. Yeah. A culture too of like, I mean, these guys have looked, these guys have looked at us in the face every week, these past four games and act like we're not watching the fucking games.
00:46:09
Speaker
with their explanations and their reasoning and this and that. And it's bullshit. And I'm really sick of it. I'm really sick of Ibifus going to the podium and acting, you know, oh, well, we, you know, we could have executed better here. We couldn't do blah, blah, blah. Just this mealy mouth bullshit. I like, I'm truly just so sick of it. Oh, what was the other phrase that he used? Um, he low key through fields under the bus to this week. Uh, he made the comment about, um, disciplined needed to be disciplined.
00:46:38
Speaker
that, you know, we came out and being disciplined, disciplined. We had 10 fucking penalties for 91 yards. What was disciplined about that? Disciplined.
00:46:49
Speaker
Tell me more about being disciplined with your defensive coordinator being gone after the first week. You see how I keep harping back on this? Tell me about your culture. It's not. It's dog shit. It's dog shit. It's dog shit. So you're up there. You're feeding me horse shit. And I'm tired of eating horse shit. I'm not eating it anymore. I'm not buying what you're selling. I'm not smelling what you're stepping in. We're done. We're fucking done.
00:47:11
Speaker
Get the fuck out. This is not an abusive relationship. I don't think I can change you. Like I can't save you. Get out. We're done. No, I'm with you. I'm out.
Fields' Leadership Potential
00:47:21
Speaker
And I think most of the fans are out. Fuck you, Maddie, but fucking asshole. Fucking Nagi 2.0. At least Nagi could go fucking eight and eight, get us to the playoffs once. Dickhead. God, we just keep hiring these fucking idiots, man.
00:47:41
Speaker
Never again. If they hire another guy like this that comes in, talking about hits principles, talking about changing the culture, talking about getting these guys to buy in, blah, blah, blah. I'm not buying in. Fuck you. Bullshit. Did you hear Tomlin's comments after the Steelers lost the Texans? No.
00:47:59
Speaker
He was asked by the media, are there going to be changes following this game? He said, hell yeah, there are. But it's just a straight shirt. That's the kind of coach you need, literally someone who never had a losing season.
00:48:18
Speaker
That's, he's like, I'm, I fully expect to see changes. I don't know what changes are going to take place. I don't know what's available. I don't know if we're going to see, I don't think, I don't know if we're going to see true busy, true Biscay starting again for them or what. Imagine team. Yeah. Picket did get injured. I think, right. Who picket, the Steelers quarterback. I don't know if he got injured, but he played like dog shit for sure. He did get injured. I just don't know how long of an injury it was.
00:48:45
Speaker
But yeah, so I don't know. I don't know what, I don't know what kind of changes they would look at. But if he's, you know, he, he might be at the point of, fuck it. Let's try it. And why not? You know, like their OC is the worst part. Matt Canada was fucking trash. He might be worse than get see who knows. All right. And you need to go start a club and jerk each other off fucking somewhere far away from both of those teams.
00:49:10
Speaker
Any more on the game or where we are? I don't think so. Ultimately at the end of the day, you know, if I showed you the stats of 471 total yards, four touchdowns, quarterback rating at like at a certain time, he was at like 130.2. It was damn near perfect. And then 26 first downs, you know, like if I showed you all that and told you that we still lost. Yeah.
00:49:38
Speaker
If I showed you that before telling you the score like odds are that team would have yeah Like you just work basic basic math probability, right? So So for me I I still saw really good things and I hope to God that on this short week the guys are able to hone in on the positives and
00:50:03
Speaker
Honestly, I would love to see fields out there if we get a lead some miraculously against the Browns and Or the commanders and and if we get if we get a lead against the commanders and that and they start going conservative it conservative again conservative again with their play calling I Would love to see fields
00:50:25
Speaker
Or one of the other senior members of this league, like Jim, or step the fuck up and be like, fuck that shit. We're doing this, you know, like not change the goddamn call. We're not doing it. You know, like if you if you go through with that, I'm walking off this. Yeah, I would love that. I would love more for these players to take charge and succeed in spite of. And also rally around fields. Yeah. Do it. Yeah. So I don't know. That's.
00:50:55
Speaker
I'm with you. That's where I'm at. Yeah, I'm with you right there with you. I'm watching back the second half and reading up on like the press conferences and stuff like that.
00:51:07
Speaker
It seemed like the Broncos created more like dink and dunk plays in the second half for Wilson to like hit a rhythm. I mean, they changed the scheme to match the quarterback in the setting that he was in. Yeah. It's crazy. I mean, even DeMarcus Walker said that, I mean, they had all these stunts and they were getting in his face, but he was just getting it out quick. So that's how they started hitting a rhythm on offense. Just to, you know, glaze him a little more.
00:51:36
Speaker
He had a couple, he had that one really good, I don't know if you saw that, if you remember that pass where he was like, someone was right in his face and they hit him as he's like throwing the ball. And he still delivered a fucking dime. He was so accurate. This game was awesome to watch. And I just thought it was really cool to see him like step in that pocket and despite the pressure in his face, just like
00:51:54
Speaker
be like, fuck it. I'm throwing this ball where it needs to go. And it went and it was, and it was great to watch. I love seeing that. And I would love to see more, but all right, we're done talking about the bears and the Broncos. We are now going to go into the NFC North vibe check with Isaac Turgeon, starting with the lions versus the Packers. We had an NFC North matchup game this week.
00:52:18
Speaker
to decide who will be winning. We could skip. We could roll this one over. No, I want to really let's let's really dig into this one. I think Lions versus Packers. We might spend more time on this one. Yeah. So I'll start. I'll get you. I'll get you started. Isaac, if you want. You said here, let me let me do this because I have some shit talking for the Packers. Fair enough. Packers lost the Lions on Thursday night football.
00:52:48
Speaker
I can't say I was too upset. It is their division. They looked great. They did. Absolutely. It made me miss David Montgomery because he was running all over the Packers. He really was, he had a great game. It's, it's really annoying when the opposing running back has like a season high career, you know, game against us every fucking week. Like there has to be something like,
00:53:19
Speaker
They keep saying, Oh, we're going to make changes. Like even after. Bijon Robinson and the Falcons went for 200 yards on the ground against us. They're like, Oh, we're going to make changes. You know, we've got to make changes. And it's the same fucking David Montgomery has put in a hundred and fucking 30 yards on us, bro. Like, well, put some, put some respect on it. Don't say it like that. You say it like David Montgomery is like a fucking slouch. Like he's, come on. When was the last time you hit 130 yards? I mean, come on.
00:53:49
Speaker
Let's find it here. I'm going to do your job. Let me find the play calling for the offense. Fucking sucked. Yeah. We, we had an interception to start the game. So we started in the red zone and yeah, golf through an interception to start off. That was pretty crazy. It was like, it was a great defensive flight.
00:54:08
Speaker
Uh, sequence from us because we were blowing up plays and we got the pick and I was like, holy shit, this is going to be a good ass game. Yeah. And then once the offense stalled, I was like, holy shit. Like there's nothing that's going to get what you're going about. What'd you find? You found something. Sure. Sure. 121 yards, right? Okay. Uh, yes, the Packers. Yeah.
00:54:32
Speaker
has he ever had one year ago, 9 18 against the Packers. Yeah. So both of his highest running games have been against the pack. Exactly what I'm fucking saying. He's every opposing running bag has like the Eagles last year against us had their highest rushing yards in a game since 1946.
00:54:51
Speaker
Like, get your fucking head out of your eyes. There's something that's going wrong. I will say David Montgomery fucking shows out against NFC North because going back through his history, I'm in 2020, 2021, 146 against the Vikings, 103 against the Packers, uh, 21, 22, 106 against the Lions, 108 against the Rams. So not the NFC North, but I mean, like, Oh no.
00:55:16
Speaker
like he's done now and now we got to go against 113 against like he's going to shit on this. I mean, he, he shows out against the NFC North. He's going to shit on the bears, dude. He's going to fucking, yeah, we better, I don't know.
00:55:39
Speaker
Me, you, baby. We're like this. This is what would have happened if fields and come out were on the same wavelength, right? Maybe we can meet up with them, give them a few pointers. Oh, that's funny. Oh, I'm so sorry. Go ahead and keep doing that. You just got to power through, Isaac. That's the key here. So we go into this game. Our left tackle is going on IR.
00:56:08
Speaker
Not great. Our left guard is injured. Not going on IR, so he should be back in a little bit. Our right tackle has a knee problem. And then our right guard gets an ankle issue right away. So Matt LaFleur with his fucking big brain is like, yeah, let's do these five man protections.
00:56:28
Speaker
Against a D line that absolutely dog walked the Falcons last week dog walked us last year as well Let's do these five-man protections empty sets and let's let's figure it out. And then just uh, Jordan Love just got fucking killed like he was getting wrecked all I've that was Hard for a Packers fan to watch cuz I yeah that was I was like, he's just getting wrecked
00:56:57
Speaker
All game. It was nuts. The second play of the game, we went empty and I'm like, are you fucking serious? We're in the red zone. We're going empty. I'm second and 10 like five man protection against this fucking line. That's the atrocity of. Yeah, five injured man. Yeah, damn. And I said, I said, I set us up for third and 20. I was just like, this is going nowhere. Like if you have.
00:57:26
Speaker
your line is depleted like that. You can't be calling long developing plays like that. You need short dink and dunk plays or runs even like what the fuck. But yeah, three straight passes, third and 20 field goal. It really set the tone for our offense for the fucking entire first half because I don't know.
00:57:49
Speaker
It's a young team, but it's not young play callers. Our coaches are, they should know better in the league. Yeah. You got to help your fucking young people out. Like.
00:57:58
Speaker
Jordan Love. I feel like he, I mean, the Packers in general get a lot of love from NFL and the NFL announcers, but I do feel like Matt LaFleur gets a lot of credit too, just in general. I think he's, he, I don't know what the fuck he's doing with that game plan. That was such a shitty game plan. He's not helping his young people out at all. I mean, your entire pass catchers are all unexperienced and they're like,
00:58:25
Speaker
to go against this defense. He, his idea is to get long developing plays and just have Jordan love sit in the pocket and put all the pressure on the line on an injured line and on love to fucking figure it out. Like this is his first prime time game starting. Like, I don't know what the fucking thought was behind that. Um, the lions just fucking killed us all game. I mean, they out muscleed us. They out, you know, dog does they, they,
00:58:53
Speaker
Bitch, just all game. Yeah. No lines played great. It looked great. Up and down. They look. Yeah, it was. They they. I think it's going to be very hard for anyone to take the embassy north away from them. Yeah, I don't see it. They're going to have to give it up, basically. They're going to have to be like, no, you like that. And they don't look like that kind of team this year that would do that.
00:59:20
Speaker
They, they look like they can go six and own the division like easily. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, yeah, anymore on green Bay. It's just, I'm tired of seeing the defense play super passive. I mean, we're letting, we, we have the van geo style defense where it's like, we have a shell and we prevent the explosive plays, but how many fucking times are you going to put two D linemen out there with two linebackers and expect a different result? Like.
00:59:48
Speaker
the lions were just fucking licking their lips, looking at our defensive sets and like, okay, run up the middle, run up the middle, run up the middle. And they fucking got seven yards every fucking time. And I'm just like, how many times is this going to happen where we just get out muzzled? I mean, that lion's defense is full of like, just people who are just want to put you in the fucking ground. And the Packers don't have anybody like that on defense, except for like Richard on Gary bunch of lions and the lions.
01:00:14
Speaker
Our defense is super passive. Aiden Hutchinson was just fucking destroying our line all game. I thought he was going to be more of like a high floor, low ceiling kind of pass rusher when they drafted him. But it turns out, I mean, he's the fucking, he can go as high as he wants. I mean, he's going to be up there with the top of the league by the end of this year. He's just, I mean, single-handedly just
01:00:43
Speaker
Destroying all the lines. I mean just him creating all that pressure was just opening shit up from everyone else on the line and just It's That defense is really fucking good. I hope Brian branch is okay because he fucking rules That's all I got I'm just You look so downtrodden right now
01:01:07
Speaker
Who me? Yeah, you look sad. Well, because I like had some hope too, but I was just like, you sound like a Bears fan. You sound like a Bears fan right now, brother. The lines are so much better than us right now. It's to be expected. I mean, they, they're very well coached.
01:01:27
Speaker
Oh, absolutely. They have done their rebuild these last few years extremely well like extremely well Yeah, they got fucking killers on that. They're their head guy too is what's the guy? What's their coach's name Dan Campbell? Yeah, Dan Campbell you would think he was I mean I kind of thought he was kind of a cornball But I mean he's legit man. Everyone did that stuff that he's coming out Lee I mean the players look like they're bought into it and even if they're not I mean he's executed execute they're executing in a way that I think I
01:01:55
Speaker
they will at least look, if they don't buy into the corn ball, they fucking look past it and still believe in him, you know, cause they, they, they see the results they've gotten. One of my biggest issues this year with the play calling on the Packers side is Jordan Love, when he gets in a rhythm, right? He's, he can be really good. I mean, he hits these times where he's like 12 or 15 straight passes where he'll complete, but we're not doing anything to get him in rhythm early. I mean, we're,
01:02:21
Speaker
Well, frustrating, isn't it? Yeah, we're doing these long plays where he's just going to get fucking killed, especially from the interior. I mean, our center is trash. Our guards are injured. You know, fucking make some adjustments, switch some shit up. And it's just. Are we talking about the bears right now or? It's just the play calling is really fucking.
01:02:46
Speaker
It's been that's a bear nose. That's a bear snout road right you got going right now. That's the bear's nose recording this part
01:02:59
Speaker
I mean, Josh Jacobs is probably gonna go for like 200 on us next week. Who you guys got next week? Ooh, I need to start him in my fantasy next week, actually. Thanks for reminding me. I need running back that's playing the Packers. Fucking... Pick the over, but I mean, we... They're like, why is Stein keep trading out his running backs every week? That's fine, though. Who's playing against the Packers? Yeah, then someone keys in on it. Like, oh, he's just taking whoever the Packers are going.
01:03:26
Speaker
Yeah, it's uh, I think it's very frustrating. Yeah But just glad we're not the only ones getting It's just so annoying with all the blue chip talent that we have we're Sean Gary Jair like all this shit What the fuck? There's been any congoque tremendous wins headman There's no good
01:03:50
Speaker
Like they can't like, cohesively play together. I'm just like, what the fuck? They're not, they're not jellin. We haven't seen, you know, all of them on the field together, like consistent. We need to be able to see the dogs. Hey, Clay Walker looks good. 19 tackles.
01:04:11
Speaker
I'll take that. Last year he showed the speed and the range to be there, but now he's put himself in position to utilize his speed and his strength, and I think he's playing better. Not good enough. But that's about it. Yeah, well, not good enough yet. He fucking jumped over the line to like... Did you see that? No. That was bullshit. I mean, I probably did see it, but I don't remember it. We held him to a field goal at the end of the game.
01:04:42
Speaker
But he jumped over the blockers and that's unnecessary or unsportsmanly conduct. So they had 15 yards and they scored a touchdown. Nice. So, all right. I'm done bitching about the backers. Stupid choices. Right. I mean, just dumb. That's the, that's that personnel piece, right. Of, of.
01:05:04
Speaker
We need to be disciplined. We're disciplined the fuck you are. I mean, this is, like I said earlier, it's a young team, but it's not young. I mean, help your fucking team out. Like, come on. All right. Well.
01:05:20
Speaker
Since you've suffered enough, we'll move on to the Vikings who had the Panthers, right? Yeah. Go ahead. Oh, they won, but it wasn't convincing or pretty at all. God, no. I mean, they had 20- I started Cousins this week and that was- He had a lot of interceptions, didn't he? Two, yeah.
01:05:39
Speaker
I mean, that's not crazy too many but I think you only threw like 180 yards or something. Not even I think it was like 120. Yeah. You only completed 12 passes. I mean, they only had 44 snaps on offense. They completed one third down.
01:05:54
Speaker
Like they didn't do shit to win this game, which is weird with an offense like that, but Kirk cousins is getting stuck just honing in too much on Hawkins and Jefferson. And if they can take that away, then he's going to spend a first round pick on that. They're a very one dimensional team still. Yeah. I mean, even with that, they can still put up a shit ton of yards. If you're not careful.
01:06:18
Speaker
because they have a man. They're a wide receiver court. That guy Madison looks like he has some potential though. What's his story? Is he a younger guy or? He had been backing up Cook for a while. Yeah. Yeah. Because I see him. He looks like he's got great runs. So I don't know.
01:06:35
Speaker
He's more of a powerback. He's not like super explosive like Dauvin Cook was. So it's it's hard to like. He's yeah, it's not explosive and his agility is not what Dauvin Cook was. Definitely. Yeah, he's he's not at all what Cook was. So it's definitely a step down. But I mean, he can he has good balance. He can, you know, hang out there with the team. I mean, they had the running game go in this game. I mean, he's a good lane runner, too. Like, I mean, he can do because he just
01:07:02
Speaker
He will, he will plow people for sure. Just gets north and south and plowing people. Whoa, dude. Relax. Talking a lot about lube and plowing people. Well, you know, it's on my mind. Did you see the Panthers pick six?
01:07:26
Speaker
No, I did not. So there's this player. So the only guy in open space to tackle the pick six was Kirk Cousins. And so there's this other corner. Oh, and once he saw Kirk Cousins, he saw the block. He fucking went. He started hauling ass to get him to like fucking nail him. Because he knew it was like, oh, this is my shot to fucking kill Kirk Cousins.
01:07:49
Speaker
There is a good take away for the bears in this game. Oh, the Panthers look like shit. So it looked like we could end up with the number one and number two picks. Yay. Woo. Love that. And everybody wants, everybody wants us to use it on Caleb Williams because we never learned anything as a fan base or an organization.
01:08:16
Speaker
Don't we have the potential for us to take one and two? Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah. That's what I said. Like the Bears. The Bears. So you're trying to take Williams and fuck, what's his name? Harrison. Yeah, Harrison Jr., right? That would be a complete change on your offense. That would be fucking awesome to be honest. We would also need a completely different offensive coordinator. You for sure. And everything would have to change everything. Clean house again.
01:08:47
Speaker
I don't know if I have it in me. It was weird. It was in the middle. I was seeing that too. It was in the middle. It was like, I think, uh, polls had just come in when they had just brought, it brought, uh, Ibrufus in for like the first. So he didn't.
01:09:05
Speaker
He didn't handpick Eberflu. I don't know. I mean, there's an interview where he talks. I think he was part of the decision making. And I don't know how much of it is him saying what he's got to say. But there is an interview out there where they ask him. And he's very much like, yep, I knew as soon as I met Eberflu, it's like I knew he was the guy. And they say, when you know you know, I consult a lot of people around the league that are really successful, blah, blah, blah. So I felt like I really knew with him and brought him in, blah, blah. And just basically owning and being like, yeah, this was my choice mostly.
01:09:34
Speaker
And now again, I don't know how much of that is him saying what he's got to say and how much of it is true, but I'm willing to believe that. That's it, right? Like they're a multi-million dollar company that has a very, like they have a PR department for a reason. Yeah. So I mean, I don't know, tough to say.
01:09:54
Speaker
I mean, that's it for the NFC North. Lions. Lions own it now. Just fortifying their spot. It's good for them. I'm just trying to figure shit out. Vikings suck. And yeah, I'll let you guys handle the Bears comments. If the Vikings suck, I don't know what we do. Yeah. Pack it up. Scooping up shit. All right, so this next week, well, that wraps up the NFC North.
01:10:23
Speaker
Actually, before before we keep going, I do real quick want to give a shout out to our guy 50 deuce for the fucking show out that he had against the Raiders. Did you see that coming on Mac? Yeah. Did you have a really? Yeah. You did. You see his. I didn't see it. All right. So six sacks of flirting with the all time record. Right. He was one shy of that. But he joins only five people, five NFL players.
01:10:51
Speaker
in a tallying six sacks in an LFL game. The last person to do it was Osi Yumenura in week four of the 2007 season when he was with the Giants and they were playing against the Eagles.
01:11:02
Speaker
But on top of that, he had 10 tackles, he had 10 quarterback pressures, seven quarterback hits, and two forced fumbles. This man straight up had a, he has a vendetta against the Raiders. It's like he is still not like, oh, that 2018. I think he has.
01:11:21
Speaker
Since joining the Chargers, he has 16 sacks and nine of them are against the Raiders. Did you see his stats before this game? He had fucking nothing.
Player's Pass Rush Stats
01:11:29
Speaker
When you look at, I think he was like,
01:11:33
Speaker
What ranked like 111th on pass rushing or something like that? Because I didn't get a sack this season. It is 0 percent pass rush win rate and all that. He had zero sacks on the year. Yeah, I think so. He had zero sacks. He had six point four percent was his is his his win rate. And I know one of the things that they talked about in a couple of the articles that I was looking at was like, obviously, that doesn't take into consideration how many times he is
01:12:02
Speaker
how many times he has double teamed. He is still very much a force to be reckoned with. Yeah, how much does that count for? Numbers may not look like it.
Reflecting on Khalil Mack Trade
01:12:10
Speaker
Granted, he also was going against a very green quarterback this week with Jimmy Garoppolo still out with his injury.
01:12:18
Speaker
But even still, like that line could not protect him at all. They could do nothing to stop him like that. He that man did whatever the fuck he wanted. And like it. Holy shit. I think that's one of the best stat lines I've seen from a linebacker in in a very long time. So, yeah.
01:12:39
Speaker
I just want a big shot to understand why we traded in. Oh, yeah. We had rebuild struck. We couldn't afford it. And the rebuild was coming. He needed to go on. But so, yeah, regardless, it was good to see him like we love to see. Yeah, we love to see a former Barrick all do great things. Yeah. So I just wanted to give a quick shout out. I don't know if you'll keep that part in. No, for sure. I'll keep that in. That was at least a little bit of pride. I got a lot of I got a lot of love for Cleo Mack and his time here. I enjoyed him being here.
01:13:08
Speaker
All right, so that wraps up the NFC North.
Preview: Bears vs Commanders
01:13:11
Speaker
And now we're going to go into a little bit of a week five preview. The Bears have the commanders next week. Commanders right now are two and two. And they almost beat the Eagles last week. It went into OT and they only lost by a field goal, which is pretty impressive.
01:13:28
Speaker
I'm gonna lean on you guys a little bit more here because I really am not caught up on the commanders that much I and I was honestly shocked to see that they had Come that close to the to the Eagles especially when they got stomped out by the bills the week before So what I mean, what's their kind of I mean, what's their recipe for success? Like what are their strengths and stuff like that? How do they do so? Well, cuz there's there's quarterbacks I mean, he's what in the second year. I
01:13:52
Speaker
And I hadn't heard the name. I wasn't aware of him. So I mean, it's not the quarterback. Is it, you know, what is it? You guys also picked up Eric B enemy from the chiefs last year as their offensive play caller. So, and they have, you know, one of the best wide receivers and Terry McLaurin and then a young star and John Dawson. So they just have a really good explosive offense. They have a young explosive offense who have a lot of potential. They're one of those that.
01:14:20
Speaker
It kind of reminds me of what the Lions were a couple of years ago. And, and not just that, but they're, they're offensive line is fairly stout. Like they're a decent offensive line. They're not trash. Yeah. They're not terrible. They are. They have 24 sacks this whole year.
01:14:38
Speaker
And we almost gave up 24 sacks in one day. That's what it feels like. Literally. Yeah. A lot of sacks. They've given up. They gave up nine against the bills. Well, I mean, we're talking about the bills. Yeah. I mean, they had five against the Eagles. Again, talking about the, like they're, they're, they are going up. So the top team is at the very beginning. Yeah. I mean, the Eagles defensively are really good, but they're, they're offensive line is, is.
01:15:08
Speaker
Not terrible. The numbers aren't a great in their favorite. Their offensive line is better than ours.
01:15:13
Speaker
Like throw the bars very high. But their defense is also fairly decent, like above average. So if they're one of those teams that I wouldn't be surprised if they end up going like eight and eight and, you know, squeaking in or just missing a wildcard. Yeah, like that's I think they have the most stacked defensive line in the league.
01:15:42
Speaker
100%. I mean, they don't always, I mean, they just got chase young back, but Jonathan Allen Montez sweat, deer and pain. I think chase young is probably the worst player on that, on that defensive line right now, but he could be the best. Yeah. I mean, I don't know his point in his career, but he, since he had those injuries and shit like that, but this, that defensive line is fucking insane. Their secondary is,
01:16:11
Speaker
Their corners aren't that great. So they were relying on the rookie last week a lot and he just kept getting burned. It looks like we're in for a pretty tough matchup. I'd say against the commanders from the trenches standpoint for sure. Yeah. I mean, Sam Howell can fucking sling it too. I mean, he's, he has some poor decision-making here and there, but he is younger too. I mean, that's expected. He has great anticipation and he can fit it in spots where, you know, he shouldn't be throwing too.
01:16:42
Speaker
So it looks like it's gonna be a pretty tough matchup. The Bears, I mean, I don't know. If we can play like we did this week, if we can play like we did this week, if we can get around the coaching some way, somehow. I don't think it's too far off to... It's a winnable game, like you're saying.
01:17:04
Speaker
But it's just, I mean, it's hard. It's hard when the calls that are being made for, you know, on our side and the lack of adjustments does, I don't feel too confident about it. What were you going to say? The biggest thing here is it's a short week and that can go one of two ways for teams, right? Where especially coming off of a loss, like we did the, it could either be very good.
01:17:29
Speaker
because we can distract ourselves and say, look, we don't have time to wallow and pity party. And we have to move on like immediately back into the office the next day game prepping for for Thursday.
Bears' Struggles & Broadcast Issues
01:17:43
Speaker
Or we are going to watch the bears fucking implode, and we're not going to see a single ounce of positivity come out of like what we saw earlier in the game Sunday. And it's just going to be
01:17:56
Speaker
Uh, uh, and we end up making the commanders look like a legit playoff team, you know, it's, it's, it's kind of which way is this going to go? I don't know. I sincerely hope that it goes, just these positives. And I want, I want it to be a dog fight. I want that only because I want our team to be able to experience that and finish that, you know, like.
01:18:25
Speaker
You need that experience. Yeah. I mean, you were talking about, you know, they don't, they don't know how to win. We can't win. Yeah. It's hard. I think that's something that, that is something that I feel like initially I usually feel like that's kind of a, what's that word? I feel like that's sometimes like a sports cliche, like they don't know how to win. But I mean, when you go a year as a team,
01:18:52
Speaker
And where you go, even four games as a new team and you haven't won a game yet. I do think that factors in where you don't know how to finish a game. You don't know how to overcome adversity, you know, in the moment. And that can be really tough. So I think it just depends which bears team shows up and, uh, what the coach has decided to do, but I'm not sure. I don't think it's in Chicago. No, it's in Washington. Yeah. So it's at Washington.
01:19:21
Speaker
Didn't we have the same Thursday night last year and it was just a fucking snooze fest? Was that last year? I thought it was Carson Wentz and shit. No, it was last year. It was like 12 to 9 or some bullshit like that. Did you see too, did you see, I should have brought, I totally forgot. I should have brought this up like way, way earlier. I'll probably cut this and put it back at the beginning, but did you see that there were there's, um, there were networks that were asking
01:19:44
Speaker
the NFL or whatever with the contract whatever they're basically like asking to not be forced to play the Bears Broncos game like they were asking to be let out of like out of the agreement and being like don't make us play this game like can we play another game can we put another game on it was uh October 13th last year it was 12 to 7 yeah ugly game yeah this should be a little more interesting
01:20:08
Speaker
Maybe, maybe again, just depends on who shows up and what, what your bears team shows up. The one from last week or the one from the first three weeks. All right. No comments on the, uh, on the CVS network thing. And I guess I don't know. I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. I just saw that. And then if it's going to bring in, I understand it from a business perspective, right? Yeah.
01:20:36
Speaker
I don't know if people are going to turn in, tune into it. You know, maybe DC people will. You know, as far as like, Hey, we might actually get another win. You know, whereas Oh, no, it was for last week. Oh, for the bears. Yeah. For this last week, there was bears Broncos. Yeah. Really? Yeah. There were people. Yeah. They were trying to get out of airing it. I thought it would be fairly entertaining. Just with like, you would have one. I thought it was going to be more of what it turned into at the end. I thought it was going to be more of a,
01:21:05
Speaker
of a one for one, coming down to kind of a final play. I did not think one was going to run away with it, and it looked like we were running away with it for a while. But also, yeah, I don't know. Whatever. All right, boys. Any final thoughts here?
01:21:28
Speaker
I'm just going to give a quick shout out to Justin Fields because I know he's a big fan of the podcast and listens regularly, multiple times actually from what I understand. But first off, Fields, call in anytime. We welcome you. But keep your head up.
01:21:43
Speaker
Please, like I know it sucks and I feel for you, but Jesus Christ, like keep your head up. Keep moving forward. Just lead as best you can. And for the love of all that is holy, if you feel at a certain point of the game, like you're like, we shouldn't be doing this. We should not be letting off the gas. Then change it, man. Change it. The fans would support you. I a hundred percent like a bullet. Yeah.
01:22:09
Speaker
Don't let this fucking dog shit coaching staff bring you down. Don't let this fucking organization that consistently makes bad decisions break you. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I got. Nice. I'm done. Yeah. Nice. I got nothing else either.
Hosts' Social Media and Projects
01:22:30
Speaker
Isaac, you got anything? Let's take those. No. All right. So Stein, what do you got for the people that you would like to share?
01:22:37
Speaker
Check out my other podcast, chick flicks with dicks, flicks is spelled with an X. We are on just about any podcast channel that you can find. Please rate and review it as well. If you are enjoying that, I would absolutely start with episode one of season one. Um, go back. It's one of my favorite ones. Uh, but also watch for a couple of new episodes. We'll be dropping here in the next month or two. So, uh, yeah, that's what I got.
01:23:03
Speaker
Cool. Uh, if you want to follow me on Instagram, um, my handle is O H M A R Daniel Omar Daniel. Uh, if you want to listen to my music, it's on anywhere you listen to music. That's just Omar Daniel. No H. Uh, yeah, follow me on Instagram and keep everything updated there. Try to have a little bit of fun there sometimes too. But, uh, other than that, Isaac, you got anything Instagram.
01:23:26
Speaker
Isaac, E-Y-E-Z-E-C-K. I stay updated with all my projects and stuff like that. I got an EP in a few weeks. Ooh, nice. Yeah. So that's where I keep everything updated.
01:23:39
Speaker
All right, guys, if you want to follow the podcast on social media, the big ones right now are TikTok and Instagram.
Listener Engagement
01:23:44
Speaker
We're at the Bear Claw Pod on both of those. If you want to send us an email, you can send us an email at bearclawpodcontact at gmail.com. If you're listening, first off, big thank you to everyone who's been listening. We really, really appreciate it. We try to have fun with this. Hopefully you guys have fun, and we appreciate any time that you spend listening to us, and we're very grateful for that.
01:24:03
Speaker
Um, but yeah, if you could also just give us a rate and review, you know, that'd be nice. That would help us. And if you want to share this with any friends, any other bears fans who are struggling to find fun in this season, um, yeah, please share, share with them and get the word out. But yeah, we appreciate you if you're listening. Thank you very much. So yeah, we'll be back next week after the game. I have a challenge for our listeners. I want people to hit us up at our Gmail account or, you know,
01:24:33
Speaker
DMS on Instagram or whatever. I want to know who you would bring in as the new head coach. We might as well start talking about that now. I'm very interested to see that. Ben Johnson.
01:24:48
Speaker
Honestly, it's a great, I hadn't even thought of that. And so I'm very interested to see what people have to say. Throw out some names, give us a reason why. Now, if you're just fucking around with your choice, that's cool too. But if you have a legitimate, you're like, you absolutely should go in and here's what. That would be awesome. I'd love to hear it. Yeah, whether it's serious or a troll, either one, send them in. We'll read them. Take them all. We'll probably read them on the next episode. And cheeps, play callers, pretty good.
01:25:13
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. The Kansas City Chiefs, OC. Yeah, I think he could bring some juice to Chicago, I think. Yeah, probably. Something we haven't ever seen before, you know? Something new. Yeah, something new. Something new. How many games does Ibrafouz have to win to retain his job for next year? He has to win out.
01:25:31
Speaker
The rest of yeah, I was gonna say the rest of them at least and even then I'm not sure I'd want them back and you know who we have up in the next three games, right? Yeah, that's that's not gonna happen and
01:25:45
Speaker
Yeah, I'm OK with that. Yeah, I don't want him back. I don't think anyone does. All right, guys, just one final thanks to the listeners. Thank you, Isaac. Thank you, Stein, for being here. We'll catch you guys next week. As always, as recently, I should say not as always, but as recently, chin up, bear down. Catch you next week.