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Episode 12: The Chicago Bears vs The LA Chargers
30 Plays1 year ago
This week, with the trade deadline looming, the boys give some updates on possible moves for the Bears and a few a other things. They discuss the Chicago Bears loss to an LA Chargers team that had been struggling up until now. They also give the NFC North its weekly vibe check and talk about the upcoming game between the Bears and the Saints. Give it a listen, and chin up and Bear Down!
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Transcript
Podcast Introduction and Team Discussions
00:00:00
Speaker
It was a rematch of last year's playoffs. Last year was a disappointing outcome for the Bruins. And they took it home. It was a great game. Very exciting. Can't wait to dig into it. You guys ready? You guys watch the game, right? Go bees. This is a Bruins podcast now. Because holy shit, the Bears
00:00:23
Speaker
I don't know, man. Is it worth talking about? No. Goodbye. But here we are anyway.
Quarterback Decisions: Bajant vs. Fields
00:00:33
Speaker
So the Chicago Bears lose to the LA Chargers on Sunday. Before we dig too deep into that, I am your host Omar Delgado with me as always Zachary Stein, also known as Stein and Isaac Turgeon, Packers fan extraordinaire.
00:00:51
Speaker
So some updates for you. Tyson Bajant, according to Matt Iberfus, will be starting week nine against the Saints. Which, I mean, do you want to get into how it's, I thought Justin Fields, I don't know, to me it seems a little strange that it was very like sudden and like, nope, Tyson Bajant's starting. I thought Justin Fields had been doing better and improving.
00:01:13
Speaker
Uh, he was questionable, I think. And then, yeah, even if he was saying he was doing better, I think Justin Fields himself was saying that he wanted, his goal was to come back against the Saints. And it seems just very sudden to just be like so early in the week with a little bit of time left to be like, no, Tyson Bajans starting. Uh,
00:01:31
Speaker
I think that the reason being is they looked at the schedule. I realized that we have a short turnaround before we have Thursday football against the Panthers.
Fields' Rest Strategy and Game Prep
00:01:41
Speaker
So I think it's asking a lot of someone who's got an injured thumb on their throwing hand to play two full games within five days with each other. So from my perspective, I took that as
00:01:55
Speaker
they're just trying to be smart with it so that they can have him for the Panthers on Thursday Night Football. Sure. Otherwise, bring him back against the Saints where he could re-enter it since it's so close to the end. It's still like- It's still fresh. ... ish, fresher than it would be five more days later when they're playing the Panthers. Plus, this gives fields technically
00:02:16
Speaker
He doesn't have to really worry about the Saints game plan that he can literally spend time planning for the focusing on the Panthers. You know what I'm saying? So I think that's that's kind of my original take. I know that some people are out there trying to be like, no, I feel for the pot. Yeah.
Trade Rumors and Team Strategy
00:02:34
Speaker
I think something that we definitely need to mention is obviously the trade deadline is tomorrow, Halloween day. Everyone's like, oh, fields is unhappy. He wore the sunglasses and tried to cover up. I think ultimately it's just more of a
00:02:57
Speaker
They, I think they're trying not to finish in last place. Uh, like sure. Worst team in all of football. Yeah. Um, mostly because I think at this point that coaches are fighting for their jobs. Yeah. Yeah. You can stick to Sam's train. Uh, yeah. So I didn't really read too, too much into that. I think that was just more of a, an analytical way of, of taking when he should come back. Yeah. Just being a little bit smarter about his return. Yeah.
00:03:22
Speaker
Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, I guess I, I was, I'm giving even flutes were way too much fucking credit. I think it's him though. I have a feeling it was like one of the team doctors who was like, you know, if you give them another five, yeah. Yeah. I didn't realize that we had that quick turnaround. Um, so yeah, I guess that makes a little bit of sense. I just was caught a little caught off guard cause I was like, Oh man, well it seemed like
00:03:41
Speaker
you know, fields is really ready to come back. They were saying he was doing better. So it was just to be so immediate and just like, no, Tyson Bayton starting. I was like, oh, OK. Well, and yeah, I mean, maybe they hadn't said that right. He had done sort of very much like he's he's day to day. He's turned it into it's week to week and he's not going to go into and he like really shut it down. Yeah. Like I'm going to discuss this any further. So that's that piece of it is the one the one caveat, the one little like
00:04:09
Speaker
I'm 99% sure it has to do with schedule. One person is like, oh, or is there something? Or is it? Yeah. Or is there? I don't know. Well, I think we're at this point in the season, we're not making playoffs. Nothing too exciting is happening. I think everyone's more than ready to stir the pot and just stir something up. It's more entertaining than watching the games. Yeah, 100%. You said the trade deadline's tomorrow. I mean, by the time this comes out,
00:04:36
Speaker
Uh, hopefully the trade deadline will still be going on or it might be over. We'll see. Um, but I mean, there's been, uh, rumors about us possibly trading for chase young. I'd saw again, it's all just rumor. Another rumor was, I don't even, well, I think the rumor is that chase young is available. Right. Which, um, he openly said he wants to stay with the commanders. Like he wants to stay in Washington. So it's not a him asking for a trade thing. So we want to get out. Yeah. Um, but you know,
00:05:05
Speaker
He definitely would shore up a piece that we desperately need. Need some more fire power in, but I think it's...
00:05:15
Speaker
Basically like you also have to consider he's only played like half the games he's he's That have existed in his career so far. He's been injured a lot, right? Yeah So so at that point you kind of have to take into consideration like yeah, he would be good But what's the reliability factor here? Plus plus then also looking at like this we need if we're gonna make a trade like that
00:05:36
Speaker
The price has to be right. Maybe like I'd go as high as like a third round pick. But other than that, I'm not like I can't because if you do bring someone like Chase Young and you're you're you're looking long term, not looking for
Trade Considerations and Player Value
00:05:49
Speaker
that like like rent a contract. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. Yeah. For a rental player. That's that's then just going to like balance pretty quick. So, yeah. I don't know. I think that that's
00:06:01
Speaker
Yeah, it could help. I don't think it's a good move, ultimately. If one of the commander's addresses gets moved, I think it's going to be sweat more than chase. Well, it's funny because they already said that they're going to put young up, not sweat. Really? Because that's not what it looked like on Sunday from just like watching. That was their whole thing throughout conversations today was that the rumors are all about young and nothing to do with sweat at all.
00:06:29
Speaker
That's wild because if you saw him in the last game, he like he looked like Rogers when he left Lambeau Field for the last time. Like he was just looking around. He like had his jersey swap with his brother and shit like that. And like, I don't know if maybe he was just having a euphoric moment or what. Well, I think it's still unknown for them, you know, obviously, because that at that time, they still were talking about that. But since the game, you know, overnight and throughout throughout most of today, everything that I've seen, everything that the
00:06:58
Speaker
the six different podcasts I listen to. Everything is hosted around Chase Young right now. Only three of them are bearish podcasts. It looks like another update for you. It looks like the Bills, the 49ers, and the Cowboys are all interested in Jalen Johnson because we have not locked him down for some reason. Confuses me.
00:07:26
Speaker
Well, I understand like the idea of if there are. First off, you look at the bills, Niners and Cowboys, all three of them. Consider themselves at least to be contenders. Yeah. So if that's the case, like, yeah, I understand like leaving the prospect out there a little bit just to kind of see like why not the let's face it. Ultimately, every single player is a product. Every single player is something on the shelf that can be
00:07:53
Speaker
traded, sold, whatever. It does not matter. In the eyes of ownership, they are not people. At that point, you have to look at
00:08:06
Speaker
It's kind of like, it's like if you had a first edition Mewtwo Pokemon card, right? And just sitting on the shelf, you're like, you never put up that it's not for sale. You always want to see what people are going to offer. What people might, yeah. What you could get maybe. Yeah, I think that's... But, and so with that... Mewtwo is, first edition Mewtwo is pretty high praises for Jaylen Johnson.
00:08:28
Speaker
Well, I mean, I was not equating him. I don't know. I don't think it'd be any first edition. Yeah. You know, just a product that is definitely sought after that position sought after. Let's face it. Like he's, you know, and,
00:08:47
Speaker
He's good enough. I don't think that he's elite. That's kind of my thing is I get why we're not locking him down right now. Immediately. He's not performing like an elite by any means, not with us. Even scheme or not, instinct has to kick in. He finally gets two takeaways against fucking Brian Hoyer.
00:09:12
Speaker
That's totally false. Nobody wanted that challenge. I did not. Because I think he was being a little vocal after that game, too. And I was like, is this really the game you want to hang your hat on, like you that you picked off Brian Hoyer? I think he needed to be, though, right? He is a product, and he knows that. And so he was like, but I know my worth, and I need to get paid while I can. So I mean, I'm never going to fault any player for doing that. For trying to get their money.
00:09:39
Speaker
trying to get their money, build their brand. They're unlimited. These guys are going to be done by the time they're early thirties. They got another 50 to 60 years to go. Lock it down, dude. Go for it. Your body's going to be hurting for the rest of that life. Yeah. Might as well be comfortable financially.
00:10:00
Speaker
Do you think anyone's going to offer anything worth anything? I haven't seen any specifics. That's the thing is, I mean, I haven't seen any specifics either. It's just like we have not locked them in. People are interested. Calls are happening. Nothing's for sure. And I think the only specifics, even it's not even specific. It's just like I think they asked Jalen Johnson directly and he was like, yeah, even I'm not really 100 percent sure where our contract negotiation is right now. Like it's still kind of
00:10:30
Speaker
happening. So now we're going to move into injury updates.
Injury Updates and Team Analysis
00:10:35
Speaker
We're still waiting to see how Edmunds is where he's at. He left the game. He left. He got injured. He left. And then he came back for a few more plays and then left again. And then it just seems like there's just waiting to see how he is. That's the knee, right? Yep, the knee.
00:10:53
Speaker
Braxton Jones was practicing last week. It looks like he might come back for the Saints game. Still not sure. Matt Iberfluis said, quote, we'd like to get him out there this week. We'll see where he is. We evaluate him day to day. We're hopeful he'll get out there, end quote. So I mean, positive words from Iberfluis. We'll see if he comes back. Could definitely use him.
00:11:15
Speaker
Uh, and Jaquan Brisker is back in concussion protocol. Uh, it was just kind of a weird road for him this past week because he had cleared protocol. He was feeling ill. He was kind of out like, Oh, I think since Tuesday last week, he wasn't practicing or doing anything. Continued to feel ill and sick. Uh, they ruled them out on Saturday and then they had him reevaluated and he's back in concussion protocol today. So, um,
00:11:42
Speaker
Which, I mean, I'd rather they be careful. That's not something to be too upset about, I think. I'd rather them air on this
Coaching Critiques and Team Discipline
00:11:49
Speaker
head of caution. And not even caution. I mean, they fully know that he's still concussed and still dealing with that. So I don't think he needs to be... They need to be rushing him back, you know? And then I think you wanted to talk about... Jackson? Yeah, Jackson. You wanted to hit on Jackson, right? I mean, nothing specific other than what the fuck. Yeah. Why is he dressed?
00:12:11
Speaker
He's dressed, but still in reserve for emergency situations. Like that same game that he came out of because he reentered the same foot that had been injured before when he was on IR. And then, and then they were like, but he was.
00:12:24
Speaker
He didn't go to the locker room and he was still dressed and available in emergency situation. We're like, what the that was an emergency situation. Yeah, that was in all hands. And then this one, I'm like, how is this not an emergency situation against Justin Herbert, who is I'm going to say he's he is a top six, seven quarterback for sure. Like he just is. He's a legit quarterback. Yeah, he's had his struggles early. I did not take the charges in this because he's been struggling. And I know that he's had, you know, the finger issue.
00:12:55
Speaker
on his non throwing hand. Uh, but that, that still, you know, has an effect. Um, you could see it all wrapped up in everything that giant dildo that he had on his finger. Oh, he was showing it off.
00:13:07
Speaker
ready to ram it. And, uh, clearly he's feeling better. But I'm like, what, how would you not have, you need everyone out there then? Like they can be out there, put them out there. And if not, dude, let him take care of himself and get fucking healthy and bring in someone else. Like that's another dress spot that could have been used. Yeah. Well, general vibe, we always start with how are you feeling Stein after watching that?
00:13:34
Speaker
terrible display of a game yesterday. I'm not surprised. I can't be surprised. Yeah, I'm not like, get see had a stupid, stupid plan again. It's like, yeah, works one week. What the fuck works one week. What the fuck? Like, you know, so this is the what the fuck. And honestly, I would say what the fuck and be like, yeah, that's it. Yeah, that tracks. Yeah, that tracks.
00:14:02
Speaker
I'm with you, man. This is, uh, I was not surprised, especially just the way, uh, the way it all started. And then the way it just continued to go and then by second half, I was just like, yeah, that's, that's how it is. It's how this is going. That's how the rest of the season is probably going to go. Um, so yeah, it's just tough and it sucks that, uh, I feel kind of numb to it at this point. This is not where I thought I would be with this bear season, but here we are.
00:14:30
Speaker
Uh, so yeah, he has a, he has a works one week and a what the fuck, which, uh, Maddie recluse is in the same boat. I want to talk a little bit about him. He's now five and 20 overall. And in his entire tenure with the bears has yet to win two games in a row, which, uh,
00:14:48
Speaker
Yeah, that tracks. I feel like that's going to be a response to so much of this. Yeah, that tracks. For those of you who aren't football analysts, usually you want to win at least two games in a row. You want to have a two game stretch of wins at some point? It helps. Another interesting little tidbit about Matty Rufus is that he's only beat five quarterbacks to name those. He's beat Trey Lance, Davis Mills, who? Who?
00:15:16
Speaker
uh mac jones sam howell and brian hoyer mr defensive minded um mr hits mr hits mr hits oh mr hits i think that's can we talk about the s on hits shit shit yeah stupid yeah uh i think that's a good segue to start talking about the game because i watching this game
00:15:45
Speaker
He talks so much about hits, but holy fuck, the lack of discipline in just in tackling in they are running and route running and like coming into this game, we had 21 21 pre snap penalties, which is tied for fifth most in the NFL. We had four in the first half alone.
00:16:12
Speaker
to bring the total to twenty five at that point. It's like, yeah, what is happening? What? You can't tell me. I'm sorry. S is supposed to stand for smart. Just FYI for anybody that doesn't know. Oh, is that what it is? Yeah, it's supposed to stand for smart. Oh, smart. And there is just we are just God awful when it comes to. The basics when it comes to the fucking basics just across the board. Mm hmm.
00:16:41
Speaker
across the board. It is terrible. So in the lack of discipline we lost, both teams were under 80 yards rushing. It's been five years since the Chicago Bears have won a Sunday night football game. In those five years, we're 0 and 8, and we've been outscored 105 to 230. That tracks. That tracks.
00:17:07
Speaker
Just undisciplined. I don't know what else to say about the game in general. So I guess let's dig into we can get dig into Tyson Bajan a little bit. I didn't think he played. I thought he played solid. Would you disagree? No, I think he did fine. Yeah, he again, he is a backup quarterback. I didn't realize this last week when we talked about, you know, the idea of him being a division two undrafted rookie. He's the first.
00:17:37
Speaker
non-division one undrafted rookie to start a game ever ever and so i mean like that's so the fact that he came out and executed game plan so well last week is something to say now again keep in mind he only passed for like 160 yards right right like you know you you listen to uh uh the couple of dog shit defenses that that uh
00:18:03
Speaker
Fields beat up. It's like yeah, but he also broke 300 yards in each of those and threw for multiple touchdowns, right? Yeah The Raiders was like 160 in a touchdown, you know, yeah But he took care of the ball. He did what he needed to here. Okay Yeah, we we can start talking about Beijing I will say ultimately he did what he needed to as far as like his job is concerned from being a backup this time on Like you know, you're in prime time football
Bajant's Performance Evaluation
00:18:30
Speaker
now, right? It's not just yeah. It's not just
00:18:33
Speaker
You're in prime time football, it's two of the largest markets playing against each other. This is a big thing.
00:18:45
Speaker
Did you guys see when we sent him on that route and Mac followed him and it was like I have Khalil Mac on me
00:19:02
Speaker
You could tell he was like he was like he better not throw that fucking ball That play was just I I was you were not in a position to be getting cute buddy Again, let's be very clear So I was so I saw that and I looked at because I was watching with my buddy who's not a football guy But I looked at you even he was like
00:19:30
Speaker
Is that supposed to focus? Was that what did they do? I was like, that's the bullshit we've been pulling all fucking season. It was ridiculous. He proved without a shadow of a doubt that he is a capable QB to.
00:19:44
Speaker
Yes. You know, which is, that's a big thing. That is a big thing because in a league where they like QB twos are fucking awful, disastrous. Did you see how many were playing yesterday? Quite a few. I knew us. I knew. And then, uh, yeah. And it's like, Oh, well, I mean, he's for game two, like, yeah, he did fine. I think most teams are in the position where if you have to go to your QB two, you basically track up your game to a loss. Like, unless you're going to the doc against a dog shit team, but
00:20:14
Speaker
Yeah, I think he's in a good spot. I think he's he's proved himself in his great kiwi, too. I mean, we can talk. You can go even more in depth and analyzing like the interceptions and stuff, you know, ultimately. But the thing that happened, the issue here was the issue, I think, here was that we were playing from behind the whole time. So he he was forced into a position that he had to throw. He was not put in a position to be successful. Now, I will say that I think that a piece of that
00:20:41
Speaker
that comes, the reason to that is because of that first pass to Mooney to open up the game.
Game-Changing Plays and Officiating
00:20:48
Speaker
When he hit him for that 41 yarder, that should have been more than a 41 yarder. That should have been the, yeah, should have been a touchdown I think. I think that that first play
00:20:57
Speaker
changed the moment, but not even momentum. It set the tone of what the rest of the game would be. Yes. Because yes, the officials are to blame for blowing the whistle early, but then they did it the rest of the game. Yeah. And Mooney didn't sell it either, right? He slowed down. He turned around before he turned around and started running again. He took a few steps and then took, yeah, slowed down and started looking like, am I allowed to go?
00:21:21
Speaker
like he needs to sell it. He needs to sell it right, wrong, or indifferent. He needs to sell it and help influence that. Yeah. Yeah. You have a ball. You just go for it. Yeah. Because if he had continued and scored, if he had continued aggressively as though he were in a live play and scored, the officials could have
00:21:42
Speaker
could have allowed that score or it could have been challenged by the coaches. It would have anything to where then you have to look at the Bears would have had a lead.
00:21:53
Speaker
And Bajan would not have been coming in on the next one. Starting from behind again. Plus, the kid got robbed, his first explosive play should have been a tutty. Oh that would have put his confidence through the roof. Exactly.
00:22:12
Speaker
Blossoming quarterback, a young developing quarterback, a young backup quarterback, thrives off of that shit. They thrive off of that shit. And so that immediately could have changed how the rest of that game went. Yeah, I think that would have set a different tone.
00:22:26
Speaker
Uh, I feel like it's been happening all season to us. I don't know if it's around the league or us specific, but I feel like so many ways where it's just like, why are you blowing that debt already? That was not like, uh, that's, and it's a little frustrating, but, uh, I mean,
Offensive Strategy Analysis
00:22:41
Speaker
what can you do? You know, it also, it shouldn't be coming down to the refs. You shouldn't leave it to the refs. I should say at least that's right. But I mean, but in this argument, that doesn't really apply just because it was literally the first, the first
00:22:56
Speaker
Yeah. It was also nice to see that they took that shot that they allowed him to because, you know, they trusted him out before with bringing Peterman in for that, for the Hail Mary and, you know, the, the, the arm strength and stuff. And everyone was like, no, no, you'll see. Yeah. That's good. You know, and, and, and he was, it was, I thought it was a good throw. I thought it was well-placed. Um, you know, he Mooney had to extend a little bit for it, but I think that the placement was right.
00:23:20
Speaker
Yeah, like yes, he needed to the way he put it so Well, it's nice to see your great coaches have a little bit of faith in their players Yeah, so one good decision that the coach has made this during the day. Yeah They're on out though and that great uh One pageant or beige it hit, you know Venus Jones jr. In the end zone While he was sitting on his ass
00:23:48
Speaker
and didn't make the catch wide open. Brother, you're sitting down, no one touching you.
00:23:54
Speaker
Why? The ball hits you in the chest. It hit him in his tummy. Now, hey, I think this is OK. People have given him total shit. And to a point, yes, he deserves that. He deserves the fact that he can't ask you. However, ultimately, this is my big issue. And this is the one thing that I wanted to come in and talk about today. The only main point that I want to talk about the primary causal agent to all of this is coaching.
00:24:24
Speaker
It's coaching. Yes. Don't tell me about like your your priority on focusing on on hits, you know, H.I.T.S., you know, the whole thing and being shit. Yeah, exactly. Total, total shit. And, you know, you can't even execute the very basics of this football game at a professional level. The very basics of this football game at a peewee level. Hey, guess what, defense? Don't line up over the ball.
00:24:52
Speaker
multiple times in a game. Just don't do it. Just stupid mistakes. We are playing dumb, dumb football. We're on both sides of the ball, dumb, dumb football. And they're not positioning their players for success. I will also say they're positioning players who aren't quite there yet.
00:25:16
Speaker
For like to get to be in key positions. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like Vayless Jones Jr. Yeah. Kid's got speed. He's fast as fuck. He was wide the fuck over. Yeah. But he does not have his hands yet. Yeah. And a lack of awareness too. Like, I mean, that's what I think the whole reason for that. He was just lost. And then he was like, Oh shit. I'm sitting down on the balls. Like right in my face. Like, I mean, he was able to attack that space. He got open for a reason. Yeah.
00:25:42
Speaker
It's just, his hands just are fucking nuts. They're not there. But yeah, he's not the one putting himself on the roster. Right now with where we're sitting, he shouldn't be on exactly. That's a decision. He has a skill enough to be on a practice squad for sure. And like, he needs to be getting reps in. He needs to be working that skill set. This team, this coaching staff has proven time and time again that they do not practice shit. We saw it. Think about all the long steps.
00:26:12
Speaker
all the long snaps regardless of who the fuck was snapping it all those snaps over the head over the head over the head off to the right off to the left over the head didn't fucking matter yeah week after week after week after week we're missing stupid blocks we're missing open field tackles we can't attack the fucking ball tackle no pressure like
00:26:32
Speaker
Just look like a fucking fool. Yeah. Yeah. With our record with where we're sitting right now at this point, I'm not, I don't even want to talk about the players. Yeah. He, in my right now, this ultimately has to do with the coaches and they suck. Yeah. Dick. Not in a fun way.
00:26:55
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, it's just obvious, obvious across the board, lack of discipline, lack of coaching. And I mean, these, these guys are, these are professional football players and they're tackling like their arm tackling, you know, Tyreek Stevenson, you know, whatever he's, he's still, uh, he's still a young guy, but it's just like, dude, why are you trying to arm tackle a guy that's a foot fucking taller than you? Like, why are you trying to, I don't know, grab
00:27:19
Speaker
Eckler while he's in motion from behind by the top of the shoulder pads. Yeah, like if that's the case go for the fucking horse collar Commit to it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's I don't I just it is I think yesterday was yeah, I think yesterday really cemented if it was to whoever I Think it's cemented in the minds of anyone who wasn't sure for sure about it that the coaching staff is a problem I think there was a lot of talk of like, oh, you know Bajan's gonna come and show out which I
00:27:50
Speaker
If he had, like I said, like we said, he had a good game, but I think people were saying he was going to pop off, you know, that Justin Fields was a problem. I think yesterday cemented that it's the coaching and.
00:28:03
Speaker
I mean, we've just beat this horse to death. But we have at this point, there's nothing else to talk about week in and week out, especially after these losses.
Team Camaraderie Amidst Challenges
00:28:12
Speaker
It's just so plain, like it's just plain as day. Yeah. They're garbage, stupid calls there and then listen to their post game shit or read any of their interviews or anything like they're just.
00:28:23
Speaker
Even if it says you had to take responsibility for anything, you're not. There's no leadership at all. I said this, I think in like three or four, whenever all that shit was going on with old boy that we sent down to Miami, like regardless of what your take is on any of that, the fact of the matter is the leadership here is dishonorable bullshit. Disgusting.
00:28:44
Speaker
So at that point now, what I would like to talk about is just let's give credit where credit's due. Yeah. You know, like, like we couldn't talk about a few of the positives with agent. I mean, he, he attempted 37 passes. He hit 25 to nine different bears receivers. That's a great thing. Like spreading the ball around the ball around something that we don't always do. Um, being able to, you know, he had that 41 yarder that should have been a tiny, right?
00:29:08
Speaker
Uh, should've could've would've, uh, but, and then he also, uh, he had a fucking like rockstar finally getting some love from here for it. So, I mean, I think Beijing came in, he did what he needed to do. Um, you know, he, I don't think he would have thrown one of those two interceptions. One of them was questionable. I don't, I don't think he was thrown one of them had he not been in a position of playing from behind.
00:29:32
Speaker
I think one of them too, and then there was a couple that were close that weren't on him. It was like receivers bobbling the ball. And I think one for sure was definitely like, they like pulled the ball out of what the receivers hand and like that was, ended up being like an interception. There was the one that it looked like it was, was it over or under thrown to Moody? But it actually was like, it was actually miscommunication with, with DJ Moore. Again, I don't even want to talk about like,
00:30:03
Speaker
Cause that just goes back to the like coaching thing. He targeted twice in the second half. Yeah. You know, um, but yeah, and that was an open miscommunication that, that more admitted to and that agent took full responsibility for, you know, leadership is, you know, so, um, they might not be buying in. I can't tell if they're buying in to Eber Flus and all the bullshit from the coaching staff, but I can tell that they're buying into each other.
00:30:33
Speaker
They have each other's backs. They're not throwing each other under the bus. They believe in each other still.
00:30:42
Speaker
Which is like, it's like you have to look for that little bit of hope here, right? Yeah. Ted Mosby and how I met your mother. It's like, you know, you're five years in and you're like, I have to keep hope and I have to believe that there is something here. Otherwise, what's the point? What is there to even continue for? What's there for me to continue watching football or being embarrassed for? You know, there has to be hope. And I think the one piece of hope that I have right now is
00:31:09
Speaker
Looking at the positives and looking at that the team itself the players themselves seem to have each other's backs. So Yeah, I mean we saw great effort from a lot of our key players even when we're down 7 to 30 in the dog shit season like in this season is basically a scratch and they're still important fourth grade effort and I think that's definitely something to be To be proud of I'm proud of those guys. I'm proud to have those guys on the team and
00:31:32
Speaker
And they do it. Like you said, I don't think anyone's bought. I'd be surprised if any of these players came out and said they're bought into Matt Eberflux. They have yet to do it all season. But they're definitely there for each other. And they're definitely there for themselves. They're showing up for themselves and for the fans. So we'll take what we can get. Absolutely. I think we need to give a shout out to the O-line for sure, right? I think going back to the O-line. I said 2-fifths of the O-line for sure.
00:32:01
Speaker
Well, no, I think the online as as a whole, when you look at the entire game, actually didn't do terrible in their job assignments. A lot of the a lot of the mistakes and the execution issues came off on like during the play with with the actual playmakers. Right. Not the play facilitators, which unfortunately, that is what the old line is. They're the facilitators. Yeah. The protection, the time. Yeah. Yeah. Clearly, the run game wasn't as
00:32:32
Speaker
Uh, successful as it had been the week prior, or as we would have liked it to be. Again, we're going up against a, a step up defense for sure. You know, you've, you've got Cleo Mack and, uh, both over on the other other side of the ball. Yeah. Hard to get, they did really well. Darnell Wright had a hell of a game. He just continues to show.
00:32:53
Speaker
Oh, he's showing that he's going to be like a foundational piece of this O-line, I think. Keep him healthy. Keep him healthy. Keep him healthy, please. Yep. Having a great season so far. Only two pressure, zero sacks, but 39. That's a great stat line for him. Third down efficiency, six to 14. It's sub 500, but we're
00:33:18
Speaker
It's better than like, uh, I think we were like one or two of 13 or 14 or 15. Yeah. Well, I'll say just feel like that one, my reaction, that one was just like tracks, like tracks, like, yeah, a little progress. Sure. We'll take it. Uh, yeah, man. And just not a lot of the only other positive I would throw out is.
00:33:45
Speaker
You know, the Bears defense only allowed 54 rushing yards. Eckler destroyed people. They destroyed us when it came to the screenplays, but he had 15 carries for 29 yards. So I mean, he averaged 1.9 yards per carry. So I mean, the run defense itself, like closing down those running lanes in the middle
00:34:06
Speaker
They're still doing great on that aspect. Yeah, so they're averaging Currently over the last four games. They're averaging 42 yards allowed Yeah, that's great now if only we could you know contain But you know props to that portion of their game piece the rest of it was fucking garbage Yeah
00:34:34
Speaker
Again, that's where you get those open field tackles the mistackles the single arm tackles the above the waist tackles, you know, just just bad Mechanics and basics just fundamentalism discipline watching probably shout out to Darrington Evans for scoring his first Yeah, yeah, I mean like good for him Absolutely. He he did it fashionably right hurtling over a defender like You want to do that? Yeah, that's the highlight you dream of for sure. I
00:35:03
Speaker
Absolutely.
00:35:12
Speaker
Anything else outside of this I think like I mentioned before it's just It just goes back to the same root problem.
Leadership and Organizational Impact
00:35:19
Speaker
Yeah, they are not drilling mechanics. They're not drilling basics They're not sticking with fucking game plans at work like if they come up with game plans at work Just stop trying to be cute stop it
00:35:33
Speaker
Yeah, you aren't. You are not. Someone needs to tell him like, bro, you're ugly, bro. This is ugly. Yeah. You're not even like the best friend of the hot chick in the movie. Like you're, you're one of the underlings that follows there. Sure. Yeah. 15 seconds of screen time. Yeah. Stop.
00:35:56
Speaker
He got used to he was he used to be he was the best friend of the hot chick for a while He got used to it. It's like it's not your position. It's not your role anymore my guy Well with that again he's all talk
00:36:10
Speaker
I'll talk no walk and refuse. Yeah. I just cannot be said enough that he still has yet to take responsibility and really, uh, sack up his court, take a blame. Well, and again, especially patient, I think the leadership pieces in that kid for sure. Yeah. Yeah. He's definitely wanted. Um, yeah.
00:36:32
Speaker
I will say with DJ more though, he only had four receptions on six targets, but it was for 55 yards. So I mean, literally he's just showing like he's critical. You got to get him the ball to get in the ball, get in the ball. He's one of the ones too. That I, when I, that I, I think of immediately when it's like somewhat one of the leaders on this team that is still putting forth effort, despite the situation we're in, he is like probably front and center for me. Like even though he's maybe not getting the ball as much as he should, as much as he should, let alone how much he would like to.
00:37:02
Speaker
Uh, I haven't heard a peep out of him negatively. Like he still, like when he gets the ball and when he gets a catch, he fucking makes it count and it's great to see. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure good chunk of his yards at this point. Yeah. And not to, this is not a knock at all. I think it's to his, to his credit and it's, I mean, that's what he does best. That's why we brought him here. But I think a lot of those yards that he got are from after the catch and him making that effort after contact, you know? So props to him.
00:37:28
Speaker
I, you know, we looking at the Chargers, we did discuss. First off, there was one white hair. There was one play where white hair was made to look like a bitch. That was where Boseau just fucking blew him away. Like single handed. Yeah. Literally like they locked up and then Boseau just used one arm to basically lift his ass off.
00:37:54
Speaker
Right at the start of the game too that was I was like, oh fuck like please don't let that be all game wouldn't have
00:38:05
Speaker
later. What the fuck ever. I don't even want to talk about the rest of that. Exactly. Like he wouldn't have been in that position had it not, but it doesn't matter. But I mean, shout out to Herbert for looking healthy. I think it's more entertaining and I think it's good for the sport when you have this high caliber quarterback being able to perform at that higher level.
Chargers' Performance and League Comparisons
00:38:24
Speaker
31 to 40, 298 yards with three touchdowns. Great game. Austin Eckler also looking
00:38:29
Speaker
Healthy again, which is nice to see because I think he is he's definitely a veteran now, but he is explosive He's one of those dual threats running backs He again our run defensive stout. It kept him. He had 15 attempted carries Mm-hmm only 29 yards, but he had seven receptions for 94 yards. So yeah It was like he was like nah, that's fine. Yeah Yeah
00:38:54
Speaker
you can tell that he's starting to make his because they both had been sort of having struggling with some injuries and stuff. Yeah. And to your point too, I think it makes the game more fun too. Also when it's like not a household name popping off because I don't think he's quite there yet. I think he has been in conversations, but I don't think he's like, he's definitely not like in the Mahomes. That's always an issue when we're dealing with a West Coast team.
00:39:15
Speaker
Yeah, sure. Oh, that's always an issue. Yeah. Just because we're in the Midwest, like, that's not our market. We don't get regular crossover with them. Yeah. So, I mean, yeah, that's just. Yeah. Love to see it. Good for the game. Absolutely. Good for him. Sucks for us. But I think that's it. I think that about does it for the game recap. Anything beyond this would just be overkill. So with that, I think we will now move into the NFC North
00:39:45
Speaker
vibe check with Isaac. How are you feeling buddy? I'm feeling great. Yeah. Caleb Williams, here we come. Yeah, it's the only glimpse of like something to look forward to right now. Cause I'm not having, I'm not having fun watching this team right now. It is as bad as it is going to get.
00:40:12
Speaker
Packers fans are in shambles too, bro. Like just being online and seeing like the meltdown. And then it's just like, you can tell which ones are the younger ones too. Cause they're all like, dude, this fucking sucks. Like I can't take this. And it's like, buddy. Well, it was just not fun to watch. Sure. Like genuinely, like I'm just like, there was a time where I was just like, I put the game on. I was like, I don't know if I really want to watch this. Cause I was just like,
00:40:42
Speaker
Cause yeah. Well, let's, let's dig into it. It was, it was the Packers and the Vikings played each other. Yeah. And the Vikings took it, took it to the Packers at Lambeau field. They did. Uh, but not convincingly cause they didn't have to do anything crazy. They just had to go in there and play and they got anything they wanted really. I mean,
00:41:10
Speaker
This defense is stopping nobody. This offense is doing nothing. I mean, there's nothing. Kirk Cousins was having a great game. He was really carving you guys up. It was nuts to watch. Yeah, no first downs until four minutes. Four minutes left in the first half? Yeah, four minutes left in the first half. First 26 minutes, no first downs. Yeah. And then only a field goal in that first half.
00:41:36
Speaker
Yeah, that's that's not going to win the game. The last five games. Our first half scores are zero three three zero three. That's so I mean, that's tough to know what the fuck they're doing. I mean, they had 15 total yards in the first quarter. They started the game with four consecutive three and outs. We had eight first half penalties, which is the most since 2012.
00:42:03
Speaker
which cost us 69 yards. Nice. Yeah, it's just a lot of miscues and execution that's just not getting hit. I mean, yeah, there's an RPO on third and one where it was three receivers to the right. And it was a RPO where you either run it or you look to the flat for a quick out route. Nobody was in the out route. All the receivers just went to go block. And like, I don't know how the fuck you're supposed to
00:42:33
Speaker
Create a play if you want to go for the pass and no one's looking for the pass. Yeah, I I it's just chill like that where it's like It falls on the coaches falls on play calling. Like I don't know what the fuck we're even supposed to do because that There's no way to check out of that. I mean He got the read where there's no options. Yeah, I mean you got the read where he saw all right I'm gonna pass this cuz either a linebacker is hanging off or you know, someone's not playing man coverage. So he's like, alright, I'm gonna hit the read
00:43:03
Speaker
I'm gonna hit the flat and nobody's looking for it. And if you're taught to do one thing and then nobody responds, then I don't know what you're supposed to do in that situation.
00:43:14
Speaker
It's funny seeing a lot of the rhetoric around from from Packers fans around Jordan Love just because it's so like reminiscent and in some cases like word for word for some of the shit that Bears fans have been saying about Justin Fields where it's like people literally being like, how is this guy supposed to succeed with this coaching?
Comparative Coaching Challenges: Packers vs. Bears
00:43:31
Speaker
And it's like, yeah, we know the feeling. You can see the arm talents there. He makes like, yeah, some stupid plays that just, you know, happen. But
00:43:43
Speaker
I mean, yeah, there's he's missing open shit. I mean, he's not completely. Devoid of blame here. I mean, he's yeah, I mean, he's got his stuff, too. Yeah. But also the scheme is just, I mean, probably the worst of the league at this point, like other than like the Raiders or some shit. I don't know. Like I don't know how anybody is supposed to succeed in this scheme that.
00:44:12
Speaker
is just devoid of any creativity or any spacing. I think before this game, the Packers were second in the league in contested catch targets, which is above the Steelers who are known for having terrible spacing. Yeah.
00:44:34
Speaker
And the only team worse are the Falcons who have Kyle Pitts and Drake London, who can do, who can work with contested catches, who have a big catch radius and can do contested catches. We don't have people like that. I mean, we have super inconsistent receivers and our receivers aren't. Yeah, your receivers aren't helping out. They're not cut out to make contested catches. We have some of the worst spacing in the league when it comes to route running and like scheming up plays. And it shows when you watch the offense, it just, it's a fucking dumpster fire. I mean,
00:45:04
Speaker
There's zones. I mean, my Twitter was just filled with like run plays where our center and our right guard are just missing their zone blocks, just completely like falling forward onto the ground. And then, you know, our running back is getting tackled in the backfield. And I'm like, I don't know how the fuck you're supposed to run that shit. Yeah. When your blockers don't block. It looks like a big mess. And I don't, I genuinely don't know who we're going to beat for the rest of the year. Like it's, it looks bad, bad.
00:45:34
Speaker
Yeah. And I hope that we make changes at the end of the year, at least, because it's pretty ugly to watch.
Vikings' Strategy Post-Cousins Injury
00:45:45
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I don't know how much of a silver lining it is, but at least it's very obvious whose fault it is. Yeah, I would say so. So it's a pretty easy problem to identify and fix, hopefully, for you guys' front office. We'll see. I mean, we also should mention,
00:46:04
Speaker
Kirk Cousins tore his Achilles this game and had to leave, which is incredibly unfortunate. That just sucks. You just hate to see it happen to anyone, let alone a guy that was doing really well. And I don't know. I think Kirk Cousins is pretty likable. I like him. So people around the league seem to like him. You know, I think he's I think he's done in Minnesota. Yeah. It's 35 years old. He's out for the rest of the season.
00:46:35
Speaker
I think 100% they are going to start looking at what's the future. So yeah, you think he's done. You think he's done overall? No, no, no. I mean, he could he could be if you wanted to be. He's made enough money, but I don't think I think he I don't think that's how he would want to go down. He wants more. Yeah. So I was going to have a little piece about Kirk Cousins, but I want to touch on the Packers defense real quick. OK.
00:47:02
Speaker
So, cause I have a lot of stuff to say about the Vikings. Um, Packers defense had a play on third and two where they dropped a nine into coverage on third and two in the red zone, dropped nine into coverage. And you know what happened? The Vikings got a 20 yard boy, a pass play to Hawkins and who was wide open. Oh,
00:47:30
Speaker
It's the most uncomplimentary football you're going to fucking see in the NFL right now. Jair fucking sucks this year. I don't know what's happening. I mean, we have the worst fourth down defense in the league. I mean, the defense is just letting receivers get way too much space. I mean, they don't have Jefferson. If they had Jefferson, they would have hung like 40 on us, especially if Kirk doesn't get injured. It's there's.
00:47:57
Speaker
There's no consistency. Joe Barry doesn't know what the fuck he wants to do. And the defense just looks out of position. And just offense to defense, this whole team just looks like a fucking mess. And yeah, like I said earlier, even on the defensive side, I don't know who we're going to beat because there's no upside here.
00:48:18
Speaker
We, we extended for Sean Gary for four years. So I mean, I'll take that spot. Yeah. But yeah, that's about it for the Packers. It's, they might be like bottom tier team in the entire league. Cause it's just, it looks really fucking bad. One of us, one of us.
00:48:40
Speaker
Dude, that Packers Bears game, we thought it was going to be so electric, but it might be for the number one overall. Dog shit, yeah. The true Kayla Williams ball. That was going to be interesting. Oh my god, yeah, I forgot. Yeah, we were musing about how, oh yeah, like both of these teams are going to be totally different by the end of the season. Like maybe we'll be like, you know, doing really well and it'll be a great game to watch. That might just be a fucking...
00:49:05
Speaker
double dumpster fire going on i mean the packers do play the giants and the panthers and the bears so it'll be interesting to see how bad we really are yeah playing that gauntlet measure your floor yeah that shit lit i mean we lost to josh mcdaniels man like where's this here's the how low
00:49:31
Speaker
Are you looking for the floor, bud? Well, I'm seeing the ceiling of like how bad we okay. I'm looking at bad as like Yeah, that's all I got for the Packers unfortunately the Vikings though Oh See when I move in you have stuff for the Vikings. Yes, let's go so
00:49:55
Speaker
I'm a Packers fan, but I'm also a football fan and this cousin's injury really, really fucking sucks. Cause this team, this was like cousin's best year that he's been ever been having. And he also, if you saw him, he just had like a different.
00:50:11
Speaker
fight in him this year, like he was screaming at receivers to get lined up and like gave a shit, like a lot of shit about this team in this year. And I think even though they were 500, they looked so much better than last year. They are, they were starting to play super complimentary football. That defense was starting to create turnovers. That's what they were waiting for was that defense to light up. Yeah. And it seemed like they were.
00:50:38
Speaker
They are absolutely starting to hit on the right track. A hundred percent. I mean, they were getting turnovers and the offense was responding with points. I mean, that's how you fucking win games. I mean, they were hitting a stride and they were going to, I think they were going to be competitive in the NFC North for sure. If they could have, you know, if cousins didn't go down. So, I mean, that defense for the personnel that it has has been playing so fucking good. I mean,
00:51:06
Speaker
Floors has been playing so good. I mean that safety Bynum. I think it's a safety or a corner He's been electric. I think he has like three interceptions in the last two games He's been so fucking good. Just disrupting so much shit over the middle and
00:51:22
Speaker
They're so good for being heavy blitzers, but they just disguised a lot of heavy blitzes and just confused the hell out of the offense. They didn't know what to do because they were sending seven people on the line, and then you don't know which ones are going to drop back. So an already shitty, confused offensive line is just sitting there scrambling, trying to find out who to pick up.
00:51:45
Speaker
Yeah, it was just a good ass game from that Vikings defense and that defense had consistently been putting together good plays and if they could have They were I think they were gonna be really fucking good if they Kept on that trajectory because yeah cousins didn't get go down and if they had kept on track Yeah, I mean that
00:52:06
Speaker
It sucks because that team actually like looked really insane. Yeah. Um, that'll be interesting. I'm telling you, Brady coming out of retirement, he's going to say the Vikings, the NFC North is going to swing that way. It's going to be, it's going to be fucking wild, man. It's going to be wild. Yeah. It'll be interesting to see if they plug and play somebody because O'Connell system isn't super plug and play, but they have the playmakers to plug in a quarterback and carry him. Yeah. Well, I mean, also what options do they have outside of trying to, you know,
00:52:36
Speaker
Jaron Hall would be their only option right now. He's the guy who stepped in for cousins, but he's a rookie I mean like I don't know what you're gonna expect from that Go get Kaepernick. He's ready, right? If there's a woken-up city to do it it would it would be it would be minutes. Yeah would be in Minnesota I'm fine with that The only
00:53:04
Speaker
guy, I can see them like making a move for is like Tana Hill. But even that's a stretch because that's a lot of cap to eat, especially with cousins. It's a ton of cap to eat. Yeah. And Tana Hill's like Tana Hill's contract right now is fucking bananas. Like they went all in. They really thought that they that Tennessee was, you know, the real deal, which they were for a little bit there. Yeah. Yeah. And and yeah. Oof.
00:53:35
Speaker
I mean, this was without Justin Jefferson, if they could have fucking had Jefferson. This team with that defense just looks for 70 baby. Easy. They would have broken the record.
00:53:50
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah, I think it'll be interesting to see if they pick up anybody, who they'll pick up, because yeah. It's just tough. You can't plan for this either. It's just so unfortunate. The O'Connell system is very, it needs a certain type of quarterback. It needs a vertical passing quarterback, someone who can hit deep, but also hit people to create plays afterwards.
00:54:18
Speaker
So it's it's but I mean, like I said, they have the playmakers to fucking, you know, put a quarterback in there and make it work. It's just the system is a little hard to adopt. So it'll be it'll be interesting to see what they do. See what they can finagle. Yep. Aaron Rodgers. Anybody come back? Fucking tape tape his leg up and maybe he'll tape his leg up. The bitch is starting next week, isn't he? Rogers.
00:54:47
Speaker
You see him walking around out there and yeah, he's doing dropbacks and throwing and shit This bitch is starting actually ready to go I mean they're winning right now might as well just hold them out anymore on the Packers Vikings game
00:55:03
Speaker
No, I think that's it. Packer suck Vikings will be interesting to see what happens. I don't think anyone out there that can save them right now, though. I think that they're going to immediately drop into at best a mediocre team, you know, whereas they were like absolutely on on the right path to.
00:55:21
Speaker
There's just no one available. There's no moves you can make right? Unless you can like especially mid-weight like we're halfway
Lions' Strategic Depth and Performance
00:55:28
Speaker
into the season. There's just yeah, yeah Cards to play for them very bad timing So as we're recording this the Lions have beat the Las Vegas Raiders
00:55:49
Speaker
Jared Gossi, the rush yards on that fucking game. Oh shit. 222 rushing yards for the lions, eight rushing yards for the Raiders. Wow. So interesting. Um, why they were holding Gibbs back so much. Cause I feel like he's a guy who can strive with more of a workload than what he was getting.
00:56:18
Speaker
But I mean, maybe that's just I get he's like a smaller back, but still, I mean, I'm going to give him his due. I'm willing to bet the big thing for him is. Longevity type of season like a tomorrow kind of thing. Yes, they absolutely are built to be to take the north and try to make a deep push in the playoffs like they are built for that.
00:56:46
Speaker
So for me, I understand why they've been kind of like controlling that, especially when you've got money out there, like when he was healthy, like just fucking crushing it. You know, it's kind of like it makes sense that they have these like, they have depth there that they're trying to make last and not put them in a position to have to be a workhorse or to have to take on that heavier workload.
00:57:09
Speaker
Um, when they don't have to write, uh, and, and try to make it like we need to stretch them like past Thanksgiving. God damn it. We have got to get out of November because I think that that's been an issue, um, in the history of Detroit is, you know, like December ball starts and, and the things they're dealing with injuries, just like everyone else in the league. It's just kind of.
00:57:30
Speaker
You know, it hits them at the worst part. So I think it's a smart move on their part. But clearly today with the lead that they took and that the past that earned the run game that was working like 26 carries for 152 yards and a touchdown. But then Craig Reynolds also had 14 carries for 74 yards.
00:57:50
Speaker
They averaged 5.8 and 5.3 respectively. That's nuts. That's fucking wild. 486 total yards for the Lions. That's 40 carries. That's 40 rushing attempts. They both averaged over five yards on 40 rushing attempts. That's nuts. I know what you're thinking. It's like, oh, well, someone had an 80 yard breakaway or something. No, the longest was 27 yards.
00:58:15
Speaker
So they're just chipping at them. Yeah, that's nuts I don't that's not even chipping bro chipping is like when you get that like three three point two where you're like Yeah, I could literally get a first down but like every set of downs with just running it based on the average This was straight up like I'm getting a first down every two rushes So They did whatever the fuck they wanted once they got it going We watched and we saw part of the first half and it did look like the Lions were just kind of like
00:58:44
Speaker
uh stalling a little i don't know it felt like they were kind of like things weren't clicking yet clearly they strained it out because that score one even like you look through the the game recap 29 first downs versus 12 for the raiders that's nuts so they more than doubled the first third down deficiency hey they were six for 14 sound familiar yeah yeah
00:59:13
Speaker
Oh man. Devonta Adams needs to get the fuck out of. Get the fuck. Yeah. Wasting away. One catch for 11 yards. That is not what he's used for. 32, 31. Or else he doesn't have a lot of time left.
00:59:33
Speaker
But that's the thing is he his game doesn't rely on athleticism. He's just an insanely good route runner and knows how to read corners like so he's going to be good for a few more years. He doesn't absolutely have the right IQ for it. It's he reminds me of it was only 30. What's his name? Well, that's not to the plate for the Cardinals Fitzgerald Fitzgerald. Yes. Yes. He reminds me of Fitzgerald with his like just the IQ piece of it. Right. Like he's very efficient with what he does. Hmm.
Player Highlights and Impact Discussions
01:00:02
Speaker
Well, he's like the best at the league and he's like the best in the league at like the fundamentals, the fundamentals of being a receiver, just the route running and reading like being being not even I don't know, just good at a position. You would have to ask someone like Devontae Adams. He's still got seven targets, but they're Jimmy G target, so it doesn't amount to much.
01:00:33
Speaker
Jimmy G. All right. You guys want to dig into here? I feel like it's tough because it just finished and we didn't watch the whole thing and make a breakout game. Yeah, I would say it looks fucking good. Yo, that was a pickup. I tell you what, that taking him in the draft was smart. And again, he's he's starting to like pop off at the right time, too. You know, it's it's that we're hitting that week seven, week eight, week nine stride where
01:00:59
Speaker
systems are starting to make sense to some of the rookies that except for last week's play and right. But being able to like see that that trend upwards with some of the upcoming talent. I think that this this through like this month basically that we're heading into November. I think you're going to see some very the future of the league being mentioned more often with some of these younger guys. So that is one thing I am looking forward to from not just the league, but from the NFC North especially is
01:01:28
Speaker
Like, all right, I want to see who some of the key players might be around here for a while, you know? So who was that you guys mentioned earlier? Just now? Who was that? LaBorda. LaBorda. OK. They're tied in. OK. Fucking.
01:01:42
Speaker
These Iowa Titans just always turn out to be good. I mean, yeah, they do. You just got to feed them a bunch of corn. They make them work in the fields and get that farmer strength up. They're out there ready to go. Alex and Saloni looks like a Greek God. Have you seen that motherfucker? It looks like Thor's brother. All right. Yeah. I think that wraps it up for the lines on my end.
Game Previews and Predictions
01:02:11
Speaker
You got anything signed? Nope. Week 10 preview, baby. On to the week 10 preview of the Chicago Bears versus the New Orleans Saints. Not much. The Saints are seven point favorites right now. Yeah. I am surprised that they are only seven point favorites. Yeah.
01:02:31
Speaker
Uh, I will take what was to not cover Learned from last weekend Yeah, uh Yeah, some point favorites And I was looking at I was I saw that it was before they announced that beige it was going to be the starting quarterback Yeah, maybe that changes that money line might spread a little bit. Yeah
01:02:56
Speaker
Yeah, bears suck. We're doesn't look like we're, I mean, we just, any trend that we had going, we just fucking threw it in the garbage. And the Saints, I don't know, they're four and four right now. I was looking at it. They've had really close games, but they haven't really, I mean, I just think they're bad too. I just think they've been better than a few other really bad teams. Their defense is really disciplined and good, extremely disciplined.
01:03:25
Speaker
They they are. Oh, I've got it here. Hang on a second. Well, first off, the bears have lost seven straight showdowns dating back to 2011 against the Saints against the Saints. Now, granted, the last one was in 2021. We lost 21 to nine at home in the wild card round. But that was with Drew Brees was still the QB. Oh, so you do have to like can take that and consider. Yeah. Yeah. They certainly don't have Drew Brees out there anymore. Is it still Winston up there?
01:03:53
Speaker
No one's car cars back cars back and car had a hell of a game yesterday. His best one with with the with the Saints thus far. So I think he threw for a little over 300 and I was against the Colts, right? Yeah. Yeah, the Colts, which are not a they're not necessarily a. A bullshit team either. So what do you got? What do you got going? What are you thinking?
01:04:21
Speaker
as far as I just, I don't know. There's just not, I mean, I think it's just cause the saints are gonna, I think they'll just be better. I think we're just bad. Again, any momentum, any trends we had going, we just could not keep it going. I don't think it's going to change. I don't think it's going to turn around where you're about to be 10 games into the season. And I think we've well established our identity and what it's going to be this season. So. Good thing for the saints is Derek Carr is best when he has to throw a lot.
01:04:48
Speaker
And they don't have much of a run game right now. And you guys have a good pass or a good run defense. Run defense, yeah. So I think it might just be Derek Carr just throwing for like 40 times, you know, for 300 yards again.
01:05:02
Speaker
And two touchdowns, maybe three, I guarantee you've got, you've got Taysom Hill out there. You've got Rashid Shahid has, has been having some, he's been doing pretty well. He's looking so good this year. So good. This is like, it's that right time that hitting that stride, right? And then, but you still have Alvin Kamara back there. Like, who is not as athletic as he used to be, but he can still break out those. He can still break out, but he can, he also still serves as like,
01:05:28
Speaker
as a true receiving threat. I think that that's something else. And then you've got Michael Thomas, who again, maybe not quite as athletic as years past, but he's still a formidable athlete. A good safety blanket for sure. A hundred percent. He is someone that is going to go out there and he's going to put hits on people too. That's the other thing I like about him is
01:05:51
Speaker
He's got the size to make corners in safety second guess some of the hits they try to do because he smacks back pretty well. Granted, he might get hurt when he does that.
01:06:06
Speaker
I mean they also have an insane receiver in Chris Olave, who's probably their best receiver right now, but he's having a tough year right now, but he can pop off at any time. Yeah, and he's serving as being one of the better receivers. The coverage is being pulled his way, which is allowing Shahid to really look like a fantastic receiver this year.
01:06:32
Speaker
No, I don't think we have what it takes. I don't think we have the personnel. I don't think we have the discipline. Certainly not the discipline. I don't know that we're going to get any run lanes open against this one. Their defense is terrible.
01:06:50
Speaker
They're kind of like the Miami Heat in the NBA where it's just they'll pull people off the practice squad and they just fucking like get it done. They just know what to do. It's insane. I mean, these people, they have people who pop off every year where it's just like Carl Granderson this year has been so fucking good. But I didn't know what the fuck he was last year. But he's just been he's been so crucial to that defense.
01:07:18
Speaker
and like Alante Taylor, their corner, and Isaac Yatum, who was a Green Bay Packers practice squad player, has been fucking, you know, playing disciplined football. Sounds like the coaches set their players up for success, make sure they know what's going on. And even the backups, even the practice squad, even the guys. They truly are about, about the fundamentals. They truly are about like,
01:07:43
Speaker
Drilling it down, practicing it, you know, shit that we don't do. And knowing what their job is, like knowing this is your assignment, this is where you need to be, this is where you need to go. And that is a great, I think that's very indicative of the coaching staff across the board, the fact that they can go in and pull up and go in and pull guys from the practice squad who are ready. They're like, I know what I need to do. I got this.
01:08:09
Speaker
Yeah. And that ultimately makes them such a dangerous team too in the future because they're building sort of like in baseball, you know, you've got your new farm system and that's basically what this is. It's their building. It's good. That's good. And that also means that the organization across the board is sort of on the same page with each other. And I think that's something the Bears have failed at consistently. Yes.
01:08:33
Speaker
So no, I don't I don't have any hope whatsoever. The Bears winning this. My sincere hope is that Beijing goes out and he protects the football. He's not. You could tell that he was a little more hesitant in this game with some throws, but I think that's because he was getting deep. They allowed him to be deeper in the in the read and also because he was throwing from behind and he wasn't 100 percent comfortable and and his number one priority should be take care of the ball. Yeah. Yeah. And so like you could see that
01:09:00
Speaker
there was a little extra hesitation here and there. But again, he's a fucking second time starting. And only a week and a half that he's had working with the second string, two weeks now. So it's like, or with the first string. So don't see this happening. Oh, here, total points. Hang on. I've got the outlook for that.
01:09:24
Speaker
this one over under is 41. I'm going to say, you know what, I would love to see bad agent go out there and hit a couple, a couple of tuddies I'd love to see running back at one and maybe or something, you know, or even commit let's get him in the end zone for one, you know, so. So that I mean, that's, I'm going to say we can put up at least 14.
01:09:43
Speaker
13. I'm gonna say we can put up 13. That leaves 28 to be scored by the Saints. And that fully depends on how aggressive they want to be. I think it's doable. I might take the over, but I'm going to take the Saints. It's the primary scoring there. So yeah. Yeah.
01:10:01
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I think they just showed himself capable of scoring at least 14 points. So it's not too outrageous. Yeah. I don't have a lot of faith in this bears team. The season has not turned out what I thought it would be. And it sucks, but I think that does it for the week 10 preview. Unless you got anything else, Isaac or Stein.
01:10:22
Speaker
No, I I don't uh, I I will say if something like dramatic happens with the trade deadline on halloween Like we might have to jump on for like a short short thing later like if if all of a sudden fields He's gone. You know what I mean? Like or some oh man. Yeah that
01:10:41
Speaker
that or young is here. Otherwise, fuck you. We'll talk next week. Yeah. Yeah. It's unfortunate the timing that, you know, there's recording this the day before the deadline and probably out either day of or day after. But that's how she goes. We have lives to live. Can't do much about it. So now we are in the part of the show where I say Stein, what have you got for the people?
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01:12:23
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01:12:48
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