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Episode 14: The Chicago Bears vs The Carolina Panthers
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The Chicago Bears put another point in the win column, is it something to get excited about? What happened in the NFC North this week, what are the vibes? Are the Bears ready to face the Detroit Lions? The boys discuss all this and more on this weeks episode of Da Bear Claw Pod. Give it a listen! Chin up and Bear Down.
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Introduction and Weekly Recap
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Bear Claw podcast. I am your host Omar Delgado with me as always Zachary Stein, also known as Stein, as well as Isaac Turjan, Packers fan extraordinaire. It's a good fucking week when the Bears win and the Packers lose, tell you that much. But before we get into that, we're going to hit you with some updates and there he goes. He's gone. Our Packers fan extraordinaire has left the building.
Player Status and Injury Speculations
00:00:31
Speaker
We're gonna hit you with some updates. I think before we get into the big one that's gonna lead into a discussion We're gonna start with Nate Davis. He practiced last week and I think practiced today, but he's still out officially Cleo Herbert I think this would be good for some discussion because he So he wasn't activated off of IR Before Thursday and obviously didn't play but there's been no official word as to why I
00:01:01
Speaker
Um, I imagine, you know, part of it was a short week. Maybe he didn't have time to ramp up and get back into shape and get back into the rhythm of things. And so, I mean, hopefully he'll be back for week 11. But again, there's no official word. We'll see what happens on Wednesday, but I just thought it was a little, a little strange. Um, maybe they're just taking their time, but I mean, it's also just tough when they don't say anything. So, um, you have any thoughts on Herbert Stein? No.
00:01:28
Speaker
No, I didn't find it strange necessarily. I mean, I think that they're going to. What are they playing for? You know, sure. Like at this point, don't don't rush him back. That's that's a position player that. Who is good and can make a true difference to to an offense. You know, if he can take the extra time, then take the extra time. Clearly, some they're not seeing something in practice that they're wanting to see. And
00:01:57
Speaker
Granted how much I believe in what the coaches say is also up for debate. Yeah. But it's, uh, but, you know, ultimately, uh, uh, no, especially with Herbert, I like Herbert a lot. And, um, I, I sincerely hope they don't rush him back just because that's how you end a young man's career. So
Fan Loyalty and Player Performance
00:02:20
Speaker
yeah. And the guy who I think is going to be, could be foundational for us going forward, I think too.
00:02:24
Speaker
And if not for us, for someone else in the future, like I think he, and that's the thing with all, I think a lot of bears players, you know, you know, past present and future is we're always going to have those that we.
00:02:37
Speaker
are drawn to that we like that are going out there and truly giving it their all. And if the organization, for whatever reason, parts ways with them, I'd say nine times out of 10, fans will continue to support them. Yeah, support them and follow them. Thanks for what you did while you were here. Yeah. So it's like a healthy breakup type thing, right? Yeah. Yeah.
00:03:00
Speaker
Or maybe not so much that it's more like when they break up and then like the friend group takes sides, you know, that's what it's like, but it's like, Hey, no hard feelings. I got to stick with the team. Obviously, you know, but in my bitch much longer, you know, I don't agree with everything that went down. Like no hard feelings, love. Yeah. Blessings on blessings. Like.
00:03:26
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, for sure. And no, I think Deontay Foreman has done a pretty good job in his absence. So no rush. Well, the Bears are after this game, after their game Thursday
Quarterback Dilemmas and Coaching Critique
00:03:38
Speaker
night. So before Sunday's games were third in rushing in the NFL. Yeah. Is that right? Third or maybe fifth. There were third or fifth. We're up there. And then I mean, we had however many straight games of 80 yards rushing.
00:03:53
Speaker
You know, yeah. So. Yeah, one of them, we were either third in rushing or we were third against the rush and we were fifth for whatever the other one was. So but either way, it's clearly with the form and it's working. Yeah. Maybe our producer can come in with those stats in a second. Yeah, we'll get those stats cleaned up. But second in rush yards, second, second in rush yards. Nice. Not that Ravens are first.
00:04:23
Speaker
Sure. And then yards per carry, you guys are first. Yeah, Deontay Foreman's fucking tearing it up. Dude, he's really, he wants to keep that position. Tremaine Edmonds still day to day. I mean, again, could be back, should be back for the Lions game, but nothing official. Equinami St. Brown came back off of injury reserve. He was playing this past Thursday.
00:04:53
Speaker
Everything will be for sure on Wednesday though. The one last thing that I wanted to talk about though was Justin Fields because there's also no official word on him. Well, before we continue through that, I had a question about ESB. How did he look to you during the game?
00:05:09
Speaker
Nothing stood out to me. Well, so that's that's what I was thinking. Yeah, he didn't Which is I mean, that's a that's a good thing, right? He's coming back from that That was bothering him for weeks, right? I mean, that's why you go on the IR and hamstring injuries Especially when you're sprinting stopping change of direction super quick like that's that that is hard. That's a lot of pressure a lot of stress on them and so
00:05:32
Speaker
the fact that he didn't like go down again that's that's good news um but i wasn't keeping count of like snap counts or anything or how many plays he was out there i wouldn't be surprised if he was somewhat limited on that compared to usual but i'm hoping to see him out there a little more often uh once he's like fully feeling it because you know they come back they come back sooner than 100 obviously every no one is 100 at this point in the season yeah um but it'd be nice to see him out there um
00:06:01
Speaker
a little bit more because i'm i am a big fan of him and i think yeah i like him a lot i just love to see him finally have opportunity to step into that step into that yeah he's got a lot of potential he works really hard uh so i i love it um but yeah we'll see like i like i said i don't know uh i didn't really notice him but that's not necessarily a bad thing so we'll see how he uh he's gonna be going against a brother his brother this next week so we'll see if he can show out with that all right so
00:06:29
Speaker
No, no official word on if Justin Fields will play. Again, it's just all like he should play. It seems like he's going to be back. It seems like we've heard positive things. Well, we have an official word. But Eberfluis said. The official word is we don't know. We don't know. I mean, like official word, like yes or no. We just need more time is the official word. Yeah, right. According to Eberfluis, we just need more time.
00:06:54
Speaker
So yeah, I think he said no official word on whether he will play or not on Wednesday. So I don't know. Does that spark anything in you that you want to say?
00:07:06
Speaker
I don't fucking care. I do not care. I'm over it. I'm over all of it. I'm over Ibra Flus. I think he's fucking horseshit. I think his leadership quality has been highlighted. Left, right, and in between. He is garbage. He's garbage. Anything that comes out of his mouth, garbage. Can't believe it. It's funny. If you go through and read his quotes, if you read, don't listen to it because it sounds stupid. When you read it, it's even.
00:07:34
Speaker
Dumber. To the point where you're like, who fucking wrote this? I feel like my daughter, when she was in third grade, could have written the script at her. Just talks in circles, repetitive.
00:07:55
Speaker
High level, a lot of non-answers. Generalism. Yeah. Not even good politics. This is like local city council politics. Yeah. Or he's just pulling shit out of his ass. Yeah. When I don't think there is a script, I think he just, what was that? It is a filibuster. Yeah. Yeah, filibuster. Yo, I'm getting political soon. But yeah, no, I just, I don't care. I don't care. None of this fucking matters until we get fields back out on the field.
00:08:25
Speaker
I mean, it's getting to a point of clearly they're, again, kind of like Herbert, clearly they're not seeing what they need to be seeing. Right. To say for sure. Yeah. So yes or no. The grip probably still isn't there. A hundred percent. I mean, yeah. Did you see those videos? There was videos today of him throwing. It didn't look so bad. I don't know if you saw those. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, that's not to say that it's half or so. But yeah, that's not to say we get a handful of throws on video that that are selected to be shown. Yeah.
00:08:54
Speaker
Right. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. That's kind of. We'll see. The problem is that he hasn't been under live. You know, like in in live practice. Yeah, it's literally been like warm ups and walk through drawing drills. Yeah. Yeah, there hasn't been.
00:09:14
Speaker
Can he take a full snap live full speed? Right. We haven't seen that. So especially. And then you also have to consider when he runs. Instinct is to tuck it under your dominant hand. Are you sure you want to be doing that? Exactly. I don't know. It's. It's all up in the air right now. I don't think it's as good. I think if it I think it would if it.
00:09:41
Speaker
was better, they would have made a call by now. They would have been certain already. The fact that they're not, I would not be surprised if Bajan were to get the start again. You know, and we get another.
00:09:56
Speaker
And then we just get real dog fucked. Yeah. The lion. So yeah. Oh man. Uh, one last update for you here. Just, uh, Vail Jones was finally, uh, he was a healthy scratch against the Panthers. So he didn't play on Thursday, uh, which we were all, I think calling for him to not be on the field anymore. So.
00:10:18
Speaker
There's one step in the right direction. I think it was because they brought it brought back in, um, equinemi St. Brown. That was why they were able, they had to slash were able to. Sure. Scratch. Yeah.
00:10:31
Speaker
whatever makes you sleep better at night. That's just what I mean, what they're saying. So I don't sleep with this bears team elevated to people from the practice squad as well. One of which was a receiver. So yeah, I don't think it's necessarily just because he has to be was back. But whatever. Who knows? Yeah. Who's taking the vibe? You want me to take the vibe, the general vibe this week first or?
00:10:58
Speaker
That wasn't pretty that was not pretty But we won so that was nice. I guess we're not the still not officially the worst team in the NFL
00:11:08
Speaker
Um, Panthers are still the only team left with, uh, one win, uh, us beating them and keeping them at only one win helps our chances of getting that first pick. So that's good too. Um, but yeah, I mean, overall just not pretty, this just was not a pretty game. It was, uh, 16 to 13. Did you see Colin Coward saying, he said, well, the bears are out of the Caleb Williams bowl now, but he didn't realize that the Panthers have.
00:11:38
Speaker
or gave their first overall pick to the Bears. So he's talking about how the Bears are out of the Caleb Williams Bowl, but then the graphic has the Bears at number one. That's a tough look.
00:11:49
Speaker
He has a lot of those. Yeah. I feel like it's been more and more consistent over the last couple of years, too. I don't know if there's like, uh, like something going on there that I would feel bad about, but if we were to find out, you know, like actually he's been dealing with something. Yeah. Oh no. I'm so sorry. You know, I apologize, but also maybe don't be. So someone needs to be feeding his, his earpiece a little bit better. Yeah.
00:12:19
Speaker
Not pretty I think this is our sixth game in a row with seven penalties Seven penalties for 44 yards. Oh, that's one of the things that really irritates me about flus. That was one of the things that like reading through
00:12:31
Speaker
He was talking about how like, you know, fundamentals, fundamentals are so important. You know, we're real fundamentals. I'm like, bitch, what are you talking about? Seven fucking penalties. Like that's the first thing that popped into my head. I was like, yeah. Okay. Cool. Seven penalties. How many of those were pre-snap? I need to start pulling these numbers. Yeah. We got to have those now. Like seven. Seven. Yeah.
00:13:00
Speaker
Yeah, a lot of talk not a lot of walk when it comes to fundamentals and discipline as far as when he refuses talking about it You can only say the right thing so many times and not deliver. Yeah Before bears fans figure it out and are like hold on You were talking real nice here and you're still talking nice, but things aren't looking so good You're saying things with bad things are happening
00:13:31
Speaker
Oh, man. Oh boy. I would agree with your general vibe. The general vibe is it was blase. It was, look, people are going to, we'll talk about it. The defense had a good game. They had a good game. They didn't have a great game. They had a good game against a garbage team.
00:13:50
Speaker
against a one win team against a garbage team. Yeah. That shouldn't and a rookie quarterback, a huge challenge, you know, like, no, they, they, it was, we'll get to that down the road, but overall general vibe, not great. Not great.
Season Reflections and Strategic Concerns
00:14:10
Speaker
Literally. I just, I don't care. It's hard to, it's hard to care, honestly. Uh,
00:14:20
Speaker
How should we take this off as offense defense? You want to just keep talking, just chipping away. I mean, let's talk the general. We can kind of take the general vibe into this, right? The whole why don't I care? Well, let me tell you. Yeah. Tell me why. You know what? Buckle up buttercup. Tell me why you don't care, Stein. The biggest reason I don't care is because we were up against a fucking garbage team. Yeah. We barely pulled off a win. Yeah. We didn't even have a lead for a while. Yeah.
00:14:48
Speaker
Dude when they ran back that was it a kickoff or a punt for the touchdown when they ran that back I was like here we fucking go man. Like come on fucking go I will say agent still out there doing his job. He's still out there, you know Leading an offense as a backup quarterback. Uh-huh Keeping us in the game generally. I think Sunday was the Who was the guy that started for the Giants?
00:15:15
Speaker
But he was like the 10th rookie to start at quarterback this season, which is an all time record for the producer and DeVito. Yep, that's it. So he's he became what the 10th Danny DeVito. Yeah, Danny. Danny DeVito started for the new year old Danny. Walked out. Underneath the pads.
00:15:43
Speaker
How many times I had to hear that Tommy DeVito lives with his fucking parents? Yeah, just over and over again. His mom still does his bird. I don't give a fuck, man.
00:15:55
Speaker
Yeah, mom still make my bed too. Don't be judging. Don't be judging people's decision to do what they do with their money. Shit. Get the fuck out of here. He's a backup for the fucking Giants. Like, New York's expensive, dude. Like, fucking expensive. Exactly. I mean, if it was fucking Kansas City, that's one thing. All right. Then you're like, all right, you got no, you got no reason. You're like, damn.
00:16:21
Speaker
Yeah, I'd be the same thing if you played for the Chargers I'd be like yeah, no I get why he has like eight flatmates right now Yeah paying fucking three grand a month for like 250 square feet That's Anyways we digress but that's my whole thing is Beijing came in he gave the opportunity to try to get things some things did his job and
00:16:47
Speaker
We were able to get the run going a little bit. Finally, you know, finally was able to, um, I say finally, because I felt like it just was inconsistent throughout the game. You know, it wasn't like, Oh, right from the get, it was good. That the entire time. Um, but when it got good, it got good. Obviously like do you have to form him was he showed up when he needed to get got the tuddy, you know, that, and he fought that full four, four yards for it to contact happened almost immediately.
00:17:15
Speaker
Dude, that guy runs angry, man. He just fucking. Which is funny, because it didn't look it looked graceful almost, you know, like I fully expected contact to just like stop, stop him right there. And he just kept moving. And I was like, oh, OK, cool.
00:17:35
Speaker
But the defense, we finally got some pressures. Got some sacks. Got three sacks, which is nice. Three sacks. Being able to see Sweatt out there applying. He got eight pressures. I don't know. I still expected more. Yeah, against the Panthers team, for sure. Against a Panthers team that is struggling and a rookie quarterback. And just there's so much.
00:18:05
Speaker
We have veteran players out on the defense. That's the thing for me. That front line is made up of technically veterans.
00:18:14
Speaker
Um, even with that, not being able to get, I expected more from the defense. Sure. We also kept, uh, the, um, we kept the Panthers, uh, under a hundred rush yards. Again, I think we were at like 40 something 43. Um, Oh, is that in here? Do I just need to scroll down more? Well, I also just remember I looked it up. So I know it on top of my head. It's fresh in my head. So.
00:18:42
Speaker
But yeah, you know, it's it's.
00:18:47
Speaker
I don't know. That's just seventh game in a row. Yep. Holding it, opposing teams to less than a hundred yard rushing, which is fantastic. And the only ones that broke that were the chiefs and the bucks. Um, you know, but, but again, it was the panther. Even then, yeah, that's a great point. Yeah. That's kind of the thing. And so everyone's like, yeah, they did great. They kept them for three yards and doing good. Still a top, top rush defense stuff. I'm like, honestly, guys, this week's kind of a scratch. Like it should be an asterisk. Right. Yeah. When it comes to that.
00:19:15
Speaker
So, yeah, I think stat lines, I think, you know, I guess if you're watching, if you're just watching, it's like, okay, defense are good. But yeah, like, I think that like your point is you're saying, uh, if you take it into consideration, like it's the Panthers, like we should have done better. Really, really great. Yeah. Um,
00:19:37
Speaker
And none of this fucking matters until we get fields back on the field. But again, that's the thing. Like from the offensive perspective, Komet had a halfway decent day. He had 45 yards on five catches. Moore had 58 on five, but he's fucking DJ Moore. You should have way more than that. More than that. Especially you would think going
00:19:59
Speaker
back home to show out. Yeah. Even I don't, I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit who the quarterback is. Like we've got someone who can make plays and more is notorious for his yards after catch. So you just got to give him the ball. Yeah. Getting in the fucking ball. And I just felt like he could have been targeted more. Yeah.
00:20:19
Speaker
You would think that's one of those things, you know, like where the coach is talking to, they're talking to each other. The coach is talking to more, you know, and more is being like, you know, really, really let me get the ball this game, you know, whatever. Like you would have expected that. Um, but yeah, we just didn't see it. It was just another one of those things where it's like, yeah, it was okay. It was good. It could have been way better. Uh,
00:20:38
Speaker
I feel like in general, our O-line is doing pretty good. Again, this is the Panthers, but I feel like just pattern-wise, it seems like they're being a little more consistent, giving a little more time. Granted, it's with fewer games because he hasn't played a lot, but I think Tyson Bajant is doing pretty good as far as not giving up sacks. He's the best right now, which taking into context, that
00:20:59
Speaker
He hasn't played as many games, but I still think it's good. Like he's not giving up sacks. And I think that speaks a little bit for the O-line that he's not getting pressured as much. Yeah. Although, you know, the six picks that he's got is, is a rough stat to take. But again, remembering he is a
00:21:17
Speaker
Rookie division to Andre I was just gonna say rookie and Steve tradition Yeah, it is tradition. I guess yeah, and you gotta bring it out as a bearish fandom. We love tradition. Yeah Fucking idiots God we're such a joke
00:21:37
Speaker
Oh man, you know like how a little piece of people believes that like something's gonna change something's gonna be different. You know, it's really funny. Yeah. Yeah, but nothing's changed. I had this. This isn't it. Yeah, I had this very funny conversation this past weekend. I met a friend of a friend.
00:21:54
Speaker
And we were just talking and then we're talking about sports a little bit. I was like, oh, you know, yeah, like I'm a Bears fan. And she's like, oh, really? You're a Bears fan. She's like, oh, Mike, my grandpa is like a Bears fan. Like he's diehard. She's like, I tell you what, I love the loyalty. Every year is your guy's year, huh? I was like, yeah, you should have heard me about three months ago. I was going on about how fun this season was going to be. It was just going to be a blast. Yeah. So we were just then we started laughing about how bad the Bears are.
00:22:20
Speaker
That's where we're at. I wish the Bears would just accept what they are, which is like that they can produce solid defenses and special teams. And if anything, they they are the team that is going to go out there. They should really lean into that. Don't expect to win a Super Bowl. No, no, no. That's not what I want anymore. What I want now is people to fear coming to the Midwest. That's what I want people to fear coming through Chicago.
00:22:47
Speaker
And Chicago might finish eight and eight, you know, they might finish five, five hundred or whatever. They might finish it, you know, nine and whatever, like, but. But they're going to be close games. They're going to be hard, tough, physical. They're going to be hard fought wins. Yeah, you're not just going to walk through. You might be you might be destined to win the Super Bowl this year. However,
00:23:12
Speaker
You still have to go through us and we're going to make you fucking, you know, that's what I want is like, like hit him up football and knock him up football again. And I just, and honestly that would make it more entertaining for me at this point. Yeah. Cause right now it's like just watching the struggle bus and watching them go out there and like barely get by against the worst team in the NFL. It's not fun.
00:23:39
Speaker
And that's the other thing is we have faced the worst team in the NFL on what, three separate occasions now this season, right? Like the Broncos, the commanders were in, in like discussion at the time, right? I still argued that they were better than what they show. I still believe that.
00:23:57
Speaker
Um, and then, and now going up against fucking the Panthers, now the worst team in the, and like, we've literally had one in three. We're one in three in those. And this is the one, the worst of those three teams. We played the worst. I guess. Oh man.
00:24:17
Speaker
Yeah, it's hard to go. It's hard to go into. Yeah, it's the thing. It makes it hard to go into the good things that happens because it's just like it just doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Because the scheme is going to be different when Fields comes back.
00:24:38
Speaker
Um, I don't know for better or for worse. I don't know what, I don't know if they're going to keep trying to, it's so funny because there have been with, with fields, there were so many, so much more pocket, like standard offensive plays versus when pageants in there. And I'm like, wouldn't that have been the other way? That's what you should, the opposite, right? Yeah.
00:25:00
Speaker
You give your rookie guy more time in the pocket and more pocket passing especially like I feel like that's he's like the traditional like it's not like he's known for that like yeah and he wasn't like hyped up to be like oh his legs are great ever like so it's like why wouldn't you do it but we're trying to turn Justin Fields into Aaron Rodgers for some reason like what the fuck are you doing dude
00:25:22
Speaker
Tyson Beja has gotten a lot of drawn up runs too, which is, that's why I'm like, I mean, we've talked about it. That's like exponentially more than what field had. Yeah. And that's, that's my thing. And it sounds like, okay, so are they going to keep going this direction? Now that field's coming back and look, we've only got X amount of time left. We know we're not going to win the division. The rest of this is supposed to.
00:25:42
Speaker
figure out and see what the future are not. And you know what? Let's position you for the best opportunity there. We're going to give you more designed runs. Make something of it. And if you don't, that's on you. Because we're playing to your strengths now. Give him the fucking opportunity to truly show out and to truly show what he can do.
00:26:00
Speaker
And if you're not going to do that, get him the fuck out of there then. Again, nothing on him. Get him the fuck out of there for his own sake. You're wasting his time. You're wasting everyone's time. And just be real with people, goddamn it. I'm so tired of them just like pussyfooting around with what they say and how they go about it. Just fucking come out and say what you want.
00:26:19
Speaker
Yeah, at this point, yeah, I'm sick of the like, cause it's this endless cycle of like the new, you know, new GM, new coach gets brought in. They were stuck with the old guy. It's like at this point, if honestly, if they'd, if they'd been honest at this season and been like, you know what guys, we didn't draft fields. We don't want fields. We're getting rid of him. We're doing something new or we're going in a different direction. Like if they had been honest with it, like that would have been like,
00:26:39
Speaker
better than the shit that they're doing right now where it's like I like part of me really believes that this is just like sabotage your field because it's just like you you guys have the ability to play his two strengths you guys know his strengths you you're playing to like we're saying you you play you draw plays that are to feel the strengths for Tyson Bajan so you we know you can do it but you choose to not do it what the fuck
00:27:00
Speaker
Well, and so my other issue is like just listen to how they talk in their interviews. Like there's no excitement. There's no fire. I don't believe a single fucking word that they say because because there's not that.
00:27:15
Speaker
there's no passion no the passion is not there and they almost seem irritated in their interviews too like they seem annoyed that they have to answer to fans or to answer to questions of interviewers and that's just like you're fucking two and seven you have a lot more to answer than to answer for than just like a few stupid questions from the
00:27:30
Speaker
From a reporter, you know, go listen to go listen to the Raiders head coach, you know, like interim head coach. Go listen to the Detroit's head coach. Go listen to like you listen to these teams where locker rooms are excited to come to work, where locker rooms are excited to show up regardless of what their record shows right now. You know, like.
00:27:49
Speaker
Because I mean, let's face it through the Raiders record going into Sunday Wasn't amazing by any means and the wins that they had weren't great by any you know, it's not like yeah when people out necessarily, but You know, they were especially following like these last two games at least like they're excited to be there now Yeah, one another me what's its McDaniel gone? Yeah, and But you can tell when players are
00:28:15
Speaker
Truly are buying in and aren't just reading a script aren't just being like no we love it here You know like we've got all the plan the part are ready to do this and you know it's like yeah But you don't yeah, I can I can see it. I can feel it in your heart. Yeah, my taints not tingling right now like you You're not in on this yeah, and that's something we're missing from the coaching staff That's something we're missing from fields listening to him talk. I literally feel like he's an abused dog Yeah, how you kick dog?
00:28:43
Speaker
I feel as a former educator, I have had conversations with students from abusive homes that like, where you can tell that they are that they're saying what they need to say so that they don't get in trouble happens. Yeah. And like, so that I as a like,
00:29:00
Speaker
registered required reporter of the state, I would have to actually say something. It's like you have to report something. I can't because I can't see anything physically and they're not saying anything or whatever. Yeah. Like that's sort of the guilt gives that energy I get from fields like and he doesn't listen to him talk. It's like he doesn't enjoy playing this game right now.
00:29:23
Speaker
Yeah. Granted, he hasn't played in four weeks. It's been a little bit. Yeah. Like even even still, it just you can tell he's not enjoying it. It's like that was what was fun last year, though, even with the record. And he was falling out and having fun. Yeah, like it was fun to watch. This has not been fun to watch.
Rival Teams Assessment
00:29:39
Speaker
No, they're even our wins. Even our wins were not fun to watch. I have not had fun this season. Yeah. And I think that's a good point. I think the only one that we've heard say positive things about flus and the coaching staff at this point is polls.
00:29:51
Speaker
That one little piece that he came out that was the only time that I've heard true passion and true fire to where I'm like Oh, I believe what you're saying. I think it's wrong and you're wrong Believe you believe what you're saying. Yeah, that's the piece. Yeah Right now I don't believe people believe in what they're saying. No All right, I Mean Yeah, I'm with you. It's tough. I mean
00:30:20
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It was okay. We did what we had to do. Should've been better. It's hard to dig. It's hard to dig into this and have fun with it, but, um, so nothing else, huh? All right. Isaac, you got anything? You got any input on this as an outsider? As a Packers fan? No. No. Did you see my, did you see my phone fact? No. Did you see my phone fact? Which one?
00:30:47
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That the Bears have more wins on Thursdays than Sundays Nice So we just we got a schedule that's the secret we have to get all of our games on Thursday That's a just stop giving them time to think Just don't give them time to think I
00:31:14
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Fucking hell. All right, that's that's enough of that Now it is time for us to move into the NFC North vibe check with Isaac turd How you feeling Isaac how we doing more chillin, you know, yeah I think so. All right Where do you want to start? I think we should start Vikings and Saints. No, I
00:31:40
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Yeah, go for it. All right, so Vikings went against the Saints this week. Vikings won 27 to 19.
00:31:49
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The Vikings are not missing a beat. Yo, they don't write is building rockets and fucking throwing them down for you. It is awesome to watch. Honestly, it's crazy. Joshua Dobbs, he went 20 for your how excited I am for the Vikings and the fucking Lions. Yeah, it's going to be saying this just like as a football fan, though, I'm just like, God damn, it's going to be sick. Yeah, wildly entertaining. Twenty three. Have they even played yet this year?
00:32:20
Speaker
No. Damn, it seems late in the year and I still. Well, we haven't played, but I think they're going to play each other twice now. Now we play the Lions, then the Vikings, then a bye, then the then the Lions again. So, yeah, but I think our division schedule gap is really fun.
00:32:38
Speaker
Yeah, I think the Vikings and the Lions are going to face each other two times still. They have to. Yeah, they have to. Joshua Dobbs, 23 for 34, 268 yards, one touchdown. I just wanted to get that out there because Kevin O'Connell might be the coach of the year right now. If they keep at this rate, he absolutely should be in consideration for it. What the fuck? I don't know how they're just.
00:33:04
Speaker
I don't know what's going on over there. It's magic, dude. Can we go back real quick to last week when you'd like, you know, we talked about how he was like, like KFC was breaking down everything in the helmet, right? I didn't realize that the mic got turned off with 15 seconds left on the play clock. That is another.
00:33:23
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element to like that breakdown. So have you guys ever heard the string of shit you have to call for that? It's literally like.
00:33:35
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It's like 12 words. Yeah. Yeah. You're basically like tagging a word for almost every player and then a bonus. Yeah. And then and I think he still had time. And then the quarterback has to repeat that. Then he was breaking it down for him before that 15 second like left on the plate clock. Because that's when that that earpiece shuts out. I had no idea it was at 15 seconds. I thought it was at like eight.
00:34:00
Speaker
So, I mean, which is still impressive, but still I was like, wait, what? Yeah. He's got even less time. Yeah. That's, yeah, that's wild to me. Yeah. I might throw that. Did you guys see that clip? Uh, the NFL posted of Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow's calls that were kind of just like crazy ass words. I might throw the clip in here, but it's super funny hearing some of those calls and stuff. Zilch left 35, which Tom Macho toe on one.
00:34:24
Speaker
Dice right f fly whiskey brady dice right numbers three jets spielberg i'm wondering Trey Wright closer karate can 12 duo alert booty i'm wondering bristle left tight f fly pass 37 punch waggle help baby dizzy x fan on the turbo football man football what were you saying isaac i think if it was like
00:34:49
Speaker
Anybody else other than fucking josh dobbs that they would probably be fucking it up But since he has just a galaxy brain he's able to pick that shit up real fun His iq alone, but like his football iq too, you know the fact that he's like he up and he has both, right? Yeah, like so many people can be smart and football smart exactly and like having and that's that's the other thing though, right? Like we talked about that
00:35:13
Speaker
him coming in I'm like you know sometimes it just takes that relationship maybe the relationship is actually having a head coach who's
00:35:21
Speaker
possibly as intelligent as you on the same level as far as like I know I need to break it down at this level for this guy of hyper intelligence to understand I need to simplify but not oversimplify I need to you know like not dumb it all the way down but exactly where he can catch it quick and not have to really yeah so I'm kind of I'm honestly I'm rooting for him especially with him bouncing around as much as he has this season and just just just the season alone yeah
00:35:49
Speaker
No, it's it's it's cool to watch. He's an electric to watching him. He does really good job about extending the play, keeping his eyes downfield, tucking and running when he has to listening to him. He's got fucking legs, dude, like his interviewing stuff. You can tell that he's like he's a good dude to have in the locker room, like around the guys. Yeah, she's like.
00:36:09
Speaker
I'm here to do my job. Let's have fun. I think he's an easy guy to get behind as well. He's very likable, which honestly, I mean, that's one of the reasons that people like cousins was just because they're like, I don't know something about him. He walks in the room and you're like, that dude's a bro. But then as soon as he talks, you're like, oh, you're that kind of bro. You're cool, bro.
00:36:35
Speaker
Yeah, all likable and obviously competent. How do you not get behind that, you know? Did you see TJ Hawkeaton in the first half? He was getting beat the fuck up. Oh yeah. Like every time he got tackled, it was like three guys. Three were going to match them up. They were putting them in a blender.
00:36:53
Speaker
He fucking hung in there though. He was still doing really good. 134 with a tutty. Yeah. I mean, he had a bulk of those in the first half too. I think he had like over a hundred in the first half. He's, he's a lot of fun to watch. Which is, he had a slow start this season, but I think with JJ out, he's getting the bulk of the targets and he's, he's showing up. Being given that opportunity and stepping into it. Alexander Madison got hurt. I didn't notice that. That's the Vikings RB, right?
00:37:22
Speaker
Yeah. Um, yeah, he got hurt during the game or before the game, uh, late third quarter. No, but I mean, so Ty Chandler got a bulk of the, a bulk of the carries who's been sitting back there for a while. So why did Winston come? Oh, uh, love the concussion, right? Mm-hmm.
00:37:44
Speaker
went on to give him some life. He did. Is that like his fifth one this season or something? I don't know. I feel like he's always got it. It's at least a second. Making that up. He plays like he got a concussion. He just gives that impression. No, he had the A.C. injury against the Packers on week three.
00:38:04
Speaker
Yeah, Jamis Winston was giving them life but also making some really bad decisions. That's classic Jamis Winston. That's the roller coaster. He was the same when he was with the box.
00:38:17
Speaker
He had a year where he had 30 touchdown passes and 30 interceptions. Didn't far have had one of those years. He was like 28 and 28 or something like that. I think he was. And I think it was like one of his last seasons at Green Bay. I know his first season. He was like 19 and 23. Well, yeah, his first season doesn't really count towards the greatness that became his. Doesn't count to the three back to back MVP. Yeah, that was.
00:38:45
Speaker
Yeah, he threw James Winston through two interceptions. It was one It was like on a third and three and he just fucking sends it downfield and I'm like, why are you doing? The second one the second one that was like his first and ten He throws into triple coverage like it was a bomb down the field like I want to make this Triple coverage this was not with like seconds. No Like he's got lots of time left. I'm just like, what are we doing? Like
00:39:15
Speaker
My gosh, I don't know it was giving bears quarterback he reminds me of Bubba from from
00:39:26
Speaker
Oh my God. From Forrest Gump. He reminds me of Bubba. Just kind of like, like, like he's like a likable guy. That's kind of like, just not all there. Simple. Yeah. Simple. Just kind of simple. Some of that you're like, I'm rooting for you, man. Careful. You are not helping your kids. You're like, fried shrimp, gumbo shrimp. You're careful.
00:39:54
Speaker
We had some of the funniest off-season workout videos, though. Anything more on the Vikings? No, I think that's about it for the Vikings. That just was a crazy game. Saints really came to life the second half, but they just couldn't pull it off. Vikings are just so fucking good. Who do they have next week? The Broncos. Vikings have Broncos next week? Yeah. Yeah, that should be me.
00:40:18
Speaker
We'll see those so don't count them out of those teams that like he's still putting Russell Wilson still putting them numbers. Yeah, I mean they're They're not one that you can like kind of know that's it. That's a corrective game, right? Like that's not one that we can't hey, we're gonna look past them not anymore No, it's literally like no that might be the one that fucks your record for if you're not. Yeah, if you're not careful monkey, right? Yeah, I think Yeah, I mean they got Broncos Bears Raiders, so I mean
00:40:49
Speaker
Should be all right. It's one of those. They should win for sure. One of those. Sure. Yeah. Unless the Raiders turn it around crazy. The for sure is not the Broncos. Nope. I think they should win against honestly, they should win all three. Yeah. But there's something they have the advantage Raiders that are again, they're one of those teams. Now, depending on what the injury looks like with, oh boy, you know, with their starting quarterback, we'll see who Carapola.
00:41:20
Speaker
Oh, no, wait, he got benched for is o'connell the the one they went with? Yeah, o'connell's starting right now. I thought he came in because of injury. I thought the other I thought their other guy was when when mcdaniels got injured they uh got fired He's gonna go back to the patriots and be a fucking amazing offensive coordinator again
00:41:44
Speaker
and revive the Patriots and make them go through. Some people just aren't meant to be head coaches. Simple as that. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Like stick to what you're good at. I mean, you gave it a shot. Try it. You tried it and you fucked it. Couple of different. Yeah. Go back to what you're good at. Uh, all right. So that's it for the Vikings. Uh, let's move on to the Packers versus dealers. Unless you want to skip over this one, Isaac. Um, I'll let you take it. Start us off here.
00:42:15
Speaker
No, I'm good. Packers lost 19 to 23. Jordan Love went 21 for 40 for 289 yards, two touchdowns, and two interceptions.
00:42:28
Speaker
This was Jordan loves first like not first but like his biggest collection of big boy throws He was throwing downfield a lot and they were 100% connecting yeah, he was connecting us the thing yeah, he's always been throwing it but he's he was connecting on some of them and Yeah, I think
00:42:50
Speaker
You're starting to see a little bit of an offense form. I think it's starting to kind of take shape. It's in the very beginning stages, but I think they're kind of starting to form an identity and kind of figure out what works and what they want to do. Um, and like I said, last week, I think they're kind of building off that Rams game where they had time to control time and possession to kind of just control the game and do what they wanted to do.
00:43:16
Speaker
And it looks like it could. Hopefully we can keep going with it. I mean, I don't know what.
00:43:28
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what how much progression is good and how much isn't enough so that's like an interesting thing to keep a hold of but right now i mean we've got two back-to-back games with about 400 total yards so i'll take it from the offense right now especially after you know such bad slumps yeah pretty bad start after uh
00:43:52
Speaker
Well, and I would say that the Steelers defense is not, it's no easy feat to get 400 yards against, you know what I mean? Like that's, I'm not going to say that they're like, and they're not a number one defense by any means, but they're, they're good. They're very powerful. And they make their, to make their money in the pass rush and our line held up. So we kind of were able to. Yeah. Control it. Um, you were able to control the defenses. Yeah.
00:44:21
Speaker
What? Because then you could control the bleeding. Sorry. Yes. You got it. Yeah. I was just going to say the defense is doing all right, though. Kept them to four out of 13 on third down efficiencies. Yeah, our defense definitely made adjustments in the second half. We stacked the box more, which who the fuck knew we could do that? We brought more safeties down and didn't just spam the too high look.
00:44:52
Speaker
Um, we were actually getting more people in the box. And so, yeah, Najee Harris and Jalen Warren both had season highs on the ground. A major part of that was in the first half. Um, I mean, we didn't have Quay Walker, but what the fuck is that going to do? I mean, he's been really good, but you got to still play without him. Um, and we just couldn't get.
00:45:17
Speaker
We couldn't stop it for some reason, especially with Jill and Warren. He had a season high in carries and they just kept feeding him because it's working against him. Yeah. Um, we only had three, three announced on offense, which is pretty good. Definitely better than the past. Yeah. Uh, we couldn't, we had three announced all the way up until like halftime. Um, no back to back three notes. Yeah.
00:45:45
Speaker
Yeah, I mean there's some shitty situational things that I don't like
00:45:53
Speaker
We were down 13 to 17 right before half and we had like four minutes left to really, and we had the ball back at the end of, or at the other side of halftime. So we could have really like got momentum going and gone up by like 10 points if we utilize it correctly. But yeah, we just had like two straight, deep shots and then a run for two yards and then tried to swing it out to Jones and he dropped it. So I mean, just a bad utilization of the time.
00:46:23
Speaker
Yeah, um, the drops, I feel like it's, it's like good and bad, you know, cause it's like the drops are just from your young receivers and I think they're just rookie mistakes. So it's like, they could be fixed. It's something that could be worked on, but it's the drops are the second year people.
00:46:40
Speaker
Are they really? Oh, okay. It seemed like it was a lot. And I mean, granted I'm not a Packers fan, so I'm not always up to date with who's on your team or whatever, but I didn't love the drops that I saw. I was like, Oh, I don't recognize that name. So at least it's not like a veteran guy.
Game Analysis: Chargers vs. Lions
00:46:52
Speaker
It seemed like it was just, you know, younger guys making just early, I mean, obviously not rookies, but just making mistakes that guys in their first few years make. Is it just cause they don't have that connection with love yet? Is that?
00:47:05
Speaker
No, I don't know what it is. I've noticed this and all the other Packers beatwriters have noticed this. The last few weeks is that Christian Watson and Romeo Dobbs have been like really bad. And the two people that are emerging are the two rookies, Jaden Reed and Dontavian Wicks. And Dontavian Wicks, his snap count keeps going higher and higher and it's just
00:47:29
Speaker
a matter of time until he starts taking Christian Watson's snaps. But I mean, he's, you traded two second round picks for him. So we, they're kind of, you know, they're iffy to push them out, but yeah, with Jayden Reed and Dontavian Wicks, they're really forming a connection with Love and Luke Musgrave. We finally hit him on like two deep shots this game. So it's weird that the rookies are out playing the second year guys.
00:47:58
Speaker
Um, yeah, Romeo Dobbs has been super inefficient. Um, Christian Watson's been not as explosive and athletic as he's supposed to be. And that's the entire reason we drafted him. I mean, last year we were using them on like jet sweeps and shit like that, but we haven't used them on any of this year. I think we used them on like one jet sweep this year, which is, I mean, he's athletic as fuck. I mean, you want to use it. So you want to be doing that.
00:48:25
Speaker
But yeah, it's it's interesting to see what's happening with the pass catchers right now. Yeah. Yards per target the last three weeks for rookies across the league. The top three are all Packers rookies. So I mean, that's proof that something. Yeah, they're they're they're stepping up. The rookies are the ones that are kind of keeping the offensive afloat right now and loves just hitting them. I mean, Reed is just consistently making plays.
00:48:54
Speaker
making like, if we hit him on like a 40-yard deep shot on like third and long for the second touchdown. And he's just getting separation. He's not a great contested catch guy, but he's fighting for the ball and he's making an effort for that shit. Dontavian Wicks is that kind of mid-range assassin at this point. And that's what we're using him as. And he's been so good in that role. His release is insane as well. Kind of reminds me of Devonta Adams at times.
00:49:25
Speaker
Luke Musgrave, like I said, is finally starting to get his feet under him. It's funny as hell to watch Luke Musgrave though. Cause whenever he catches the ball, it's like he just falls immediately. Like he doesn't have any balance. Um, our, we brought, we brought in rich Versacea from the Raiders to be our special teams coordinator. And our special team still fucking sucks.
00:49:53
Speaker
Um, they're kind of the reason that we lost that game. I mean, you can't point at one thing, but we let up, uh, we let up a P.A.T. In a blocked P.A.T. Yeah. That was because Josiah Daguaro, like his fucking controller unplugged or something, you just have to go right by him. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, the special teams is just super young too. I kind of went.
00:50:19
Speaker
I want more vets on that side of the ball for special teams because it's not really something you can fuck up. It's you got to have a consistent special teams to hang in there, especially in close games because shit comes down to that. Comes down to those few points. Yeah.
00:50:37
Speaker
I mean, it can kill your momentum. If you don't get that one extra point on the touchdown, you're like, we just got like only getting six. You're like, what the fuck? Well, that's the thing. I mean, if we would have hit that extra point, then we're only looking for a field goal at the end instead of trying to score a touchdown. And then we're pushing for overtime and love got them downfield in the field goal range. It's just, you couldn't connect on the touchdown.
00:51:00
Speaker
Uh, but yeah, I mean, it's fun to watch the offense a little bit now. And like these young guys emerge. Um, it sucks watching the second year guys falter, but I like these, uh, these new rookies. They're looking good. Um, I'm at the point where I'm looking at draft.
00:51:23
Speaker
stuff. You're looking to see who the Packers are going to draft already. Yeah. Playing that game. Because I don't have any hope for the playoffs, obviously. Yeah. Not really. Yeah. So I'm just kind of looking, last year we went Lucas Van Ness, who was a project. And this year in the first round, we're going to have like a top 10 pick. I really want like an immediate help kind of guy, like a defensive rookie of the year type guy. So I'm hoping we can
00:51:52
Speaker
Hoping they'll do that, but they like their projects for some reason. They like them to be good in like three to four years. Planning for the future. Playing the long game. Yeah, playing the long game is not necessarily. But Cooper DeGene out of Iowa. That's what I want. Is that who you're looking at? That's who I really want. Very cool. So fucking bad, dude. He's such an athletic freak and he can like return punts even and shit like that.
00:52:16
Speaker
That's, I don't know how he'd go in a Joe Barry defense. I think we'd have to get rid of Barry, but, which I'm not even sure if he'll do at this point, but that'd be a fun pick. But yeah, I'm just, uh, I'm, uh, getting pumped for the draft process, especially with the college season wrapping up a little bit. Yeah. But yeah, that's about it for the Packers. I mean,
00:52:42
Speaker
Same defensive struggles. I mean, they made adjustments, which looked decent. Um, but yeah, we haven't scored 20 points since week two. So that's improvement. Still waiting for that. Yeah. Uh, sorry if that was more of like a tangent.
00:52:58
Speaker
No, that's OK. You're good. I'm just debating in my head whether I want to bring up the two INTs. Oh, yeah. Go for it. Yeah. No, it's all right. What's up, Simon? No, because that's what it, those were the two things. I think more, I want your opinion on it too. Because the first one I looked and it didn't seem like that was all love's fault. The second one did look a little more like his fault. The first one I think. Is that track you think or? The first one, the tipped one, I think was more of love's fault than the second one. Really? OK. Yeah.
00:53:27
Speaker
He had Christian Watson on the left side and he had Patrick Peterson. Patrick Peterson's a vet. You can't really challenge that in man. And especially with a guy who's been struggling with contested catches. Patrick Peterson didn't bite on the release at all. He was following all the way. And once you see that the DB is not biting on that, you got to go to the next guy. You can't lock in on that. So I think, yeah, you can't throw that. The second one.
00:53:52
Speaker
I just don't know what the fuck you're supposed to do. I mean, all seven defensive backs were in the end zone and we had 20 yards to go. And then like, I don't know if you've watched the routes or not, but no routes broke off until the end zone. And I'm like, you got to at least like do something like five yards before. Yeah. Give yourself some kind of yak chance. I think that's it for the Packers game. No.
00:54:16
Speaker
Yeah, I think we're good on that. Yeah. Yo, let's get into the other exciting one from the week. The Lions versus Chargers was fucking crazy. Yeah, that was a funny. That was a crazy ass fucking game, bro. That shit was nuts. We just talked about Justin Herbert for half a second. Dude, that offense is finally going, dude. Can we play them next week? Yeah, they are.
00:54:42
Speaker
I went with the Chargers on this one only because Detroit was going out West. That was the only looking at Herbert. Like he's finally, you know, you can definitely tell he's feeling good. Right. We felt like it felt that when he played against Chicago a couple of weeks ago. But I mean, twenty seven or forty three, twenty three for four tuddies and they still lose. Like that's yeah. That's a stat line that you saw from like.
00:55:07
Speaker
Uh like down in new orleans for a while there, you know where they would the offense would put up 35 40 points and their defense would give up 41 They're reaching in deep on that wide receiver depth too I mean he's thrown to like four or five wide receivers on that uh on that uh roster Which is wild wild
00:55:31
Speaker
And the Lions man, the Lions. Watching it, it just felt like they were always a step ahead of the Chargers. Just enough. Like it took the Chargers a little bit to get going. And it was almost like, not on purpose for sure, but it was like they would kind of like wait. And then the Chargers would catch up or tie. And they're like, oh, shit. Let me just turn on the Jets real quick and just get ahead again. It was just like, god damn, dude. It was nuts. It was crazy. Monty, their run game is nuts.
00:55:58
Speaker
They really haven't see monty like just brings that whole offense to like a different level. Yeah, especially with gibbs emerging like that The duo together's insane this wraps us back to the beginning man, right? Like like my conversation about herbert and just like players in general that go on and it's like i'm It can still be a fan of the player like it's fun. Watch what mon is doing up there. Yeah, it's cool good for him 166 yards gibbs had 77 for 193 out of the 200 total rushing yards
00:56:28
Speaker
Uh, I mean, it's cool. It's scary too. Cause I mean, they did really good in the passing game too. I'm on Ross, St. Brown had a really good game. Jared golf was pretty good too. Dude. I'm gonna see Brown is the, he's that dude's thick. He's just a big yak. He's a big guy. He's a big receiver. Yeah. He's a big receiver. It's kind of like Deebo Samuel. Yeah. Um, way better.
00:56:56
Speaker
Weirdly the lions were four for 13 on third down efficiency. That's what I noticed is that the third down efficiency sucked the red zone efficiency sucked, but there are four or five on fourth down. The chargers couldn't stop them on four. Yeah. I'm also curious as to why they couldn't get off the field. I'm also curious as to how many first downs they had. I can try. Yeah. Because that would be another thing. Like, cause I mean, I've seen some really weird set lines where like the third down of finches efficiency would be like,
00:57:25
Speaker
They were like one for eight, but they also had like 20 first downs, you know, it's like, yeah, but you don't understand it. Barely ever got that first. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, obviously there were charges, charges had 24 lines at 23. So yeah, about the same. It was a very equal matchup. That's right. Yeah. Other than the run game, other than the run game, they were pretty evenly matched. Yeah. Both defenses. He was kind of fucking like.
00:57:52
Speaker
Didn't show they were not on the bus. The lines got zero pressure outside of Hutchinson. They had one pressure outside of Hutchinson. It was it for sure looked like almost like the offenses were just too. It's almost like they're so complex that the defenses were like hesitant with what they were about to do. Like no one was fully just like for sure what was going on and like feeling comfortable. Yeah.
00:58:18
Speaker
And so it was almost like both sides were like, huh, huh? But both offenses were like, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. That line's O line was fucking controlling the line, the entire game on the run game. Did you see the discord picture I just sent? Yeah. Dude, I should pass the first line. I said, yes. I'm like, I'm looking at it. I'm like,
00:58:41
Speaker
Yes, he's no he's not even there yet and he has a He has a first down easy. Yeah all just got snapped. He's got tired line is passed over so like it's that's a fucking wave As a unit is that's what you want from an old line and that is the majesty of it and being able to like I wish people I wish people focused on that more like on the whole line you see that and you can see just how good because then I
00:59:08
Speaker
You immediately are opening up run lanes, which is going to suck defenses in, which opens up passing lanes, you know, like, and that's why you can have, uh, I'm going to say golf has had a bad rap and for a while, um, you know, when, when he came, when he left the Rams and came out here, like, I think it was a great move for him, mostly because he's found a system that really works for him and like.
00:59:36
Speaker
I'm not going to say he's necessary. We talked about like, is he an elite? I was like, I'm going to say no. He is far above average, but he's not elite. You know, I'm going to say he's going to honestly, you know, like. Similar to what I would say, like. No, no, no, let's do this. Let's do this. Who are we going to compare into? Is that what we want to do? Yeah, yeah.
01:00:04
Speaker
Who do you got? Hold on. All right. So are we taking Dak Prescott or are we taking Cherikov? See, that one's a tough one. What's the system? What's the content? I think that's a good marker, though. I think that is a good marker. Yeah. Which one does either have a playoff win yet?
01:00:30
Speaker
Dak Prescott fucking cooked the Buccaneers last year. Oh yeah, he did. Yeah. Fucking shit in their mouth. Bro was like, I think he threw like three incompletions all game and like 340. Jesus Christ. So.
01:00:47
Speaker
I guess for me, that would be the difference maker between the two is who's got the postseason experience. And I mean, I'll spend a Super Bowl. True. True. Yeah, that's a tough one, dude. That's a very tough one. Like. Oh, you know what? Honestly, at this point, I might take off just like if I read because I think what's really coming down is like, are we taking at that point? It's kind of like, would I take deck to put on the Lions team?
01:01:15
Speaker
No, I don't think I would I don't think just because the lions and the way that they truly support golf and like are fully in on him like that's That's what makes that whole unit special to me, you know and um and knowing that again I don't think you have to be a top five quarterback to be successful in this league um, I think if you are like within that like five to ten five to twelve range uh and with
01:01:43
Speaker
a team that assist in your favor that also is playing complimentary football. Like that's, that's where the sweet spot is. Right. Um, so yeah. I also think if Dak Prescott was in the line system, I think he would be able to elevate the pass offense a little bit more because he has a deeper arm. I think he could. Um, like I'm not saying that that wouldn't be the thing.
01:02:08
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I just don't know what the gel there would be. You know what I mean? Obviously that's and that's that's the excitement. That's the whole point to the line. That's the thing with Scott. You know, it's and two different leadership styles as well, you know. So, man, that is tough. I think I would take off because he does have that Super Bowl experience, right? He does have that. He's been all the way, you know, whereas Dak has not.
01:02:32
Speaker
Dak is Tony Romo did like Basically Romo 2.0 does did not catch it brother. He did not So that's what I was gonna say it's like golf reminds me similar to like Cutler in the way of like he's gonna be a 10 to 12 range quarterback like when you look at holistically his career Above average, right? He's in the top third of the league But definitely not
01:03:02
Speaker
Not elite, right? He's not a brady. He's not a manning. Yeah, he's not He's not um my homes. Yeah when I feel yeah, I mean I think it's like you're saying Uh,
Bears vs. Lions: Expectations and Predictions
01:03:13
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he's being supported and the system is helping him. He's not elevating that system and I think the way that that team Just works as a unit is fantastic. Yeah, it's so much fun to watch. Yeah anymore it's crazy though that no team had a sack that was the one thing that really I was when I got done watching the game I was like
01:03:30
Speaker
Oh shit. Neither team had a second. The game was so exciting. You didn't really notice that, you know, like as it was going, they got close, they got close to Herbert and then he snuck out. It was pretty cool. Actually it seemed like he was almost like he knew like he was like, I'm not going to be the only sack of his game. And then he's just like, let me rip out of here. Is it that it's underrated or just that we don't have as much eyes on them because they're West coast team. I mean, yeah, I guess in his.
01:04:02
Speaker
And his draft analysis, a lot of people are like talking about how he's like pretty athletic and can get out of pocket pretty quick. Um, yeah, I'm not excited to go against him next week, dude. After watching that game, I'm like, what the fuck are we supposed to do? And especially because you know, they're going to be on a correct, they're going to be on like a terrible. Yeah. Especially after losing a game like that, like.
01:04:24
Speaker
That is not the type of team that takes a loss like that and takes a step backwards They're the type of team that takes a loss like that and turns it like does something turns it up even bigger Yeah, no, I I don't know I feel like even on ESPN and like like national media and stuff. I feel like they're just I just feel like they're not in the conversation as much like as and Justin Herbert's not in the conversation as much but I think it's cuz it's been it's been so many years of mediocrity
01:04:53
Speaker
So it's like, it's hard to buy into a team who has like no success. And I mean, even in the rivers years, very limited. Yeah. Top, they had the best offense and best defense and didn't even make the playoffs. I mean, that's like, that is one of the craziest stats in all of sports I've ever heard. Yeah. I was like, that can't be true. That can't be true.
01:05:19
Speaker
It's just been brutal for the team. So they just kind of stopped getting national coverage. And there's so many other like stories to buy into right now, especially with like the Vikings going on the Vikings and CJ Stroud. Holy. Yeah. Oh yeah. Anything coming out of that boy right now. Yeah. He's, he's killing it. Is he an MVP candidate if he keeps winning?
01:05:41
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Rookie of the year. Like, yeah. For sure. Like he's a hundred percent involved in that. Even if they don't.
01:05:54
Speaker
Even if even if they don't make the playoffs, they don't, you know, like even if they don't win out, I'm going to say it like right now, if he keeps them competitive and he keeps doing what he's doing there. Yes, absolutely. If they I don't know, man, it's he's fun to watch. He absolutely is. I think he's like playing like one of the best top six quarterbacks in the NFL easily right now.
01:06:19
Speaker
Just stats alone like support like top four. I think so. Yeah kids. It's wild Sorry, I just want to give him his No, absolutely deserves a shout out for sure. You know points per game has been down recently Really? Yeah, it's not like 21. Hmm
01:06:38
Speaker
Cause I've been telling you that there's been like sloppy football recently. There has been a lot of sloppy football and I, I don't, I, you know, I, I don't think I disagreed. I think I was like, no, you're right. Like penalties across the board everywhere. Well, I think you can, well, I think when we're also breaking the record for how many rookies are playing. Yeah, absolutely. That factors in a little bit. Maybe I wonder what are injuries like this season? Uh,
01:07:03
Speaker
I'm looking while you're digging for that. Well, I think that covers the Lions game, right? I think we're all good on that everything's good You bored on the line board by any means you're trying to you're trying to just like scoot on by him No, I just did you know who we got? We can't scooch I have no I can't you can't scooch pass them because we have like the lines recap slash
01:07:26
Speaker
slash preview. Well, that's why I put him here because it leads great into the week 11 preview. The Chicago Bears versus the Detroit Lions. I'm scared. I know I'm absolutely worried. My you know, I'm not worried. I'm going to be honest. I don't fucking because you don't care.
01:07:47
Speaker
You don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. I like your note here that the defense being almost 100%, this Lions team is absolutely going to test it as a whole. We know that our secondary isn't where it could be. Our run defense is great.
01:08:06
Speaker
But we also need to take into consideration the teams that we have faced and the ones that have gotten above a hundred yards are the ones that should have gotten above a hundred yards. You know what I'm saying? So for me, I'm kind of like this Lions team.
01:08:21
Speaker
Now, pure running is going to be interesting, but that's the other thing is we know that Monty isn't just a pure runner. No, he absolutely has got these money. Bonnie's coming back home. Yeah. Yeah. And he's going to be looking for, he's going to be looking for blood. Dude. If there's a team to punch a hole in this fucking run defense, it's the fuck it's the lions. Like, especially right now, they got that one too. They've got it. And if somehow Monty back and healthy, like if somehow our run defense can hold up.
01:08:50
Speaker
I think that limits what the offense can do because I don't know. You saw Jared Goff go fucking nuts. Yeah. Well, yeah, he went nuts, but that's also because the run game opens that up. Well, no, no, I'm saying a few weeks ago against the Buccaneers, they had 40 rush yards. Oh, yeah. And Goff had like 350 passes. Even with Monty out. Yeah, they're still able to get those passes going. They trust Goff to sling it no matter what. And he does. He can sling it. It just matters if he's going to hit on them or not. You know what I mean? So it'll be interesting to see, you know, how
01:09:20
Speaker
I don't think we have the talent pool necessary to compete at this at this point. No, I just don't know. I mean, especially with even if fields does play, he's not going to be 100 percent. So even with that, I don't. And not just that, even when he has played, we've only got two good.
01:09:40
Speaker
games from him. Honestly, I'm looking at this as going, this is going to be like a scrimmage. If Fields plays, it's going to be like, let's get him used to live action.
01:09:56
Speaker
So it almost doesn't even count then. Yeah. To the point where like next week, I'm gonna be like, I don't care. Yeah. And if we win, I still won't care. I'm still going to be like, okay, we took out the lines. Cool. We won't do it again. And we're not going to beat the Viking. Like it doesn't matter. It's a fluke at that point for me. It's going to be like, no, people just forgot what fields did. And we finally leaned into it or something, whatever, you know, like, or, or someone gets hurt. Right. Golf goes down. Well, oh.
01:10:26
Speaker
Yeah, but yeah, even then they'll still have monty looking for uh, yeah, it's just tough man. We're coming back We're still kind of like, you know, our defense might be at 100 but we're I mean, they're still coming back from We're still coming back from being banged up We don't have any real momentum because that panthers game did not give us any momentum and momentum It's this is just a tall order dude. Like I
01:10:48
Speaker
And the lions are fucking rolling and they do just watching that game like it was amazing to watch and it just also struck fear into me because I was like, holy shit. These guys know that defense is going to correct as well. Yeah. That's the scary part. They didn't get any sex last week. They're going to come in the fucker. Yeah. I mean, and I don't think it matters if it's Justin or, uh,
01:11:09
Speaker
I think they're going to go after either. Oh, absolutely. You said that they're going to test this defense for sure. They're going to test that offensive line for sure. And it's going to be something, it's going to be interesting to see if we can establish a run game against this. Or if we might get put in a position where we can't run it, where we have to throw it.
01:11:29
Speaker
Uh, does the pass, does the pass rush hold up, you know, and, or does the past pass blocking hold up? Um, you know, they've done decent and they've given patient time. They've protected him fairly well. Um, you know, I, I, I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. It's just the tall order, man. There's just, I'm going to say right now, Monty scores at least two tuddies at least.
01:11:53
Speaker
Yeah. I would not be surprised if he gets a third bike. No. And I don't think it's because he's... I just think he's going to be looking to show out. For sure. He absolutely should. And the coaches are going to give him the opportunity too. I hope they do.
01:12:07
Speaker
Yeah, it's just scary. It's not looking good guys. That's, that's just about it for the week 11 preview. There's not much else to say outside of that because the bears haven't done much to give us a lot of hope. Well, they also haven't given us any information. Yeah, we don't even, yeah, again, we don't know. Yeah. Other than we're not telling you anything. That's about all we know for sure. They're not. I swear to God, they act like they're running the fucking X files or something.
01:12:32
Speaker
It's also that it's like we trying to trick brother like our seasons over like The only thing we have left is to find out, you know, maybe find out what Justin Fields has got, you know, maybe It's supposed to yeah, they have to that's what the whole point to this is Yeah, and if you're not gonna do that put them on the IR Yeah, if you're not gonna do that put them on the fucking IR be done with him trade him out. Yep Stop I would I would rather that than this bullshit
01:13:00
Speaker
This is a It can't that's what I can't get worse Sure, okay. Yeah All right. Look until we have a running back playing quarterback it can get worse. Oh Man
01:13:17
Speaker
Don't you guys already have a running back playing quarterback? That's crazy. No, we don't. We haven't. Yeah. All right. Well, anything else on the week 11 preview? No. Nope. All right. Well, we have reached that point in the podcast where I say, Stein, what have you got for the people?
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01:15:17
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