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Episode 10: The Chicago Bears vs The Minnesota Vikings
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Tragedy struck the Chicago Bears this past Sunday, when Justin Fields left the game with an injury and the Vikings went on to win the game leaving the Bears with a 1-5 record. The boys vent some frustrations, break down what went wrong, give a vibe check, and give a preview of next weeks battle of the backups. Give it a listen! Chin up and Bear Down!
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Transcript
Criticism of Luke Getz and Coaching Staff
00:00:00
Speaker
You guys mind if I come in hot? Real quick. Yes, go for it. I do mind. I mean, you guys already heard this, but Luke Getz, he's a fucking moron. This guy's so fucking stupid, bro. Like, I'm so sick of this guy. Whatever Aaron Rodgers is paying this guy as the owner of the Bears, he needs to be taken like a good 20 to 30% off. Just skimming off the top because I'm pretty sure that the only reason that this guy is still in the NFL and has been able to stay in the NFL is because Aaron Rodgers made him look, you know, semi decent.
00:00:29
Speaker
And this guy's fucking, I don't know. Ah, with that, welcome to the Bear Claw podcast.
Introduction to Bear Claw Podcast Hosts
00:00:39
Speaker
I am your host Omar Nogado with me, Zachary Stein, also known as Stein. And Isaac Turgeon, hacker stand extraordinaire. That's all I have to say is just. Ah, let's get right into it. It's a good way of putting it.
00:01:00
Speaker
Let's get right into it.
Injury Concerns for Justin Fields and Others
00:01:02
Speaker
We're going to start with updates. First, I think, and most importantly, Justin Fields dislocated his thumb last week in this past game and is doubtful to come back against the Raiders.
00:01:14
Speaker
Uh, here I've heard several things that is an injury like this. It seems like it's going to be more than just a one week or even a two week thing. I don't know. What do you, uh, well, they haven't exactly explained the degree other than the dislocation and he popped it back in and it was the loss of grip. He couldn't grip the ball. That's the issue. Um, I've dislocated fingers before and popped them in and been fine, but.
00:01:45
Speaker
I've also dislocated fingers before and popped from back in and not been finally lost feeling. Now, I wasn't a quarterback, though, so I didn't really have to worry about that. You just tape it to the finger next to it and you're, you know, you ninja turtle it. You're good to go.
Phil Snow's Hiring and Defensive Strategy
00:01:59
Speaker
But especially being on his throwing hand, obviously, the X-ray came back negative for breaks. But, you know, X-rays only do so much, which is why they had.
00:02:10
Speaker
the MRI today. We haven't seen any updates just yet, but then you start worrying about ligament tears, tendons, stuff like that, things that run through, nerve damage. So even though there's no breaking taking place, there is damage that takes place when you dislocate something, especially one of your
00:02:34
Speaker
you know, phalanges. So, uh, yeah, I would not anticipate him to be back until that grip comes back at least. Right. Um, so I would, I would not be surprised if it was three or four weeks even. So one to two, I think we'd be pushing that granted. They also have some of the best science people in the world working with the NFL. So, you know, who knows? They might sound like that a little, a little bit. And I'm sure the MRI will give us a little bit more information.
00:03:02
Speaker
Yeah, uh, it's tough. He's gone. He's going to be out. So we'll see how we're able to adjust. We already had, uh, Tyson Bayton come in for him in the game. We'll get a little more into that, but that seems where we're at. That seems like where we're at with the quarterback situation is Justin Fields is out for at least a while. And Tyson Bayton is our guy now. We also had Nate Davis. He had to leave the game with a high ankle sprain and is definitely going to be out for this Raider game. And it seems like he, uh, bears have said that he's going to be week to week.
00:03:32
Speaker
Terrell Smith is out three or four weeks with Mono. That covers the injury updates.
Coaching and Front Office Critiques
00:03:38
Speaker
And just today, we found out that Phil Snow has been hired as a senior defensive analyst for the Chicago Bears. Tell me more about Phil Snow.
00:03:50
Speaker
I'll tell you what Eberflux has said about him. He says that he values Snow's experience with creating pressure, which it seems like the main reason that we're bringing him on is to just be able to come up with more plans to blitz and put pressure on the quarterback. Well, Eberflux also said that Claypool was given a choice as to whether or not to go to the game, which turned out to not be true. He also told us in polling white hair that the decision had nothing to do with the snaps as much as, you know, with the change of QB they wanted to put in.
00:04:19
Speaker
the guy that had the most experience. And if you actually take a look at the snap counts that they both have had, white hair. Has had almost double the amount of snaps at center. It just it was like an untrue statement just across the board. So I don't exactly believe anything that you refuse says anymore. You refuse is full of shit.
00:04:40
Speaker
Oh, he's terrible at this whole like coaching, like giving interviews, bullshit. Like he's just, it's, it's garbage. It's garbage. Sacked the fuck up and say what you need to say. He won't do it. Pussy. Snow. Snow's most recent success was at the Baylor was as the Baylor's defensive coordinator in 2019. Other than that, uh, he's been working. He was working with the Panthers recently as a DC defensive coordinator, but, uh, the success there was pretty minimal and wasn't great.
00:05:08
Speaker
They were consistently bottom in takeaways. They weren't great at pass defense. And they were OK in defending the
Bears' Struggles with Blitz Recognition
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Speaker
run game. But I feel like that's nothing to be bragging about. So that's it for the updates. I think now it's time to get into the general vibe and do a little recap of the game. But first, I'll check in with you, Stein. How are you feeling? How am I feeling? We're a day removed from losing to the Vikings yesterday.
00:05:38
Speaker
Frustrated, very frustrated, definitely. Back to the frustration. And it's funny because this time I think we were six weeks in. I think we have a more holistic picture of what's going on. And time and time again, we can talk about the talent all we want. But I truly and firmly believe that the largest issue right now
00:06:05
Speaker
lies on the front office and the coaching staff a hundred percent. Yeah. Um, so which, you know, we can obviously dive through all of that throughout this conversation, but that is my number one issue right now. And no matter what talent you go and yet, no matter what talent we build into this team, um, doesn't, doesn't matter if you're going to be out coached every single game.
00:06:33
Speaker
I keep seeing, uh, I keep seeing game plans as far as like who we should draft. I keep seeing game plans of like, this is what we need to do. This is what we need to move around. Blah, blah, blah. As far as like, even a little bit in coaching and stuff like that. And in the coaching aspect, it's just like, I see these, you know,
00:06:50
Speaker
These game plans. I'm like, that's not going to fucking happen. So what, why are you wasting your time doing this? And, and with the player thing and the talent thing and what we're going to end drafting or whatever moves we make player wise, I'm totally with you where I just, it doesn't fucking matter what we get. It doesn't matter who we get. It doesn't matter what we do. The coaches are fucking, this is.
00:07:09
Speaker
I mean, it's embarrassing truly. And you, you, you're so dead on where we're just getting out coached from the jump now. It's not even, it's not even second half adjustments that we're being coached. It's not even just like, it's just, it's from the jump. It's from the jump. You had, we had a week to prepare and we'll get into it. But, um, I guess let's, uh, first let's just start with the, um, the game recap.
00:07:33
Speaker
Or maybe I should have just gotten into it there, I guess. Honestly, I think we just get into it. Like that's the direction that it's naturally taking. Cause my, that is my biggest issue. So we had that. We had a week to prepare more than more. Yeah. A little more than a week. We had 10 days to get ready. We knew, I want to get into know it. We knew that the Vikings blitz, we knew that was a big part of their game plan was putting pressure on the quarterback and blitzing. Everyone knew that.
00:07:59
Speaker
If you listen to any show, any analysts, you know, where they talk about breaking down every game and trying to tell you, you know, fantasy point games or, you know, pick them stuff like that. Everyone was telling you we know what the Vikings are going to do. And here's what it is. So knowing that. And knowing that our offensive line has has for the least the first three to four weeks struggled.
00:08:27
Speaker
Finally got kind of a rhythm going last week. But you know that they still might need a little bit of extra help even without all the extra blitzing. You don't get them any extra help. You let them blitz. We look totally fucking lost. We end up with a total of five sacks. Fields kept getting hit.
00:08:46
Speaker
I felt like he wasn't able to get into rhythm and get into any sort of, you know, he wasn't feeling, he didn't look comfortable. He didn't look confident. He looked like he was scrambling. He looked like he was just constantly, he was just trying to, he was going back to his bad habits, you know? And I, what does it say about your, about your play calling when the quarterback feels like he has to save your ass on every play?
00:09:14
Speaker
And every play he feels like he has to make something big happen just to keep shit going. You know, I don't know. I just, I'm also of it in general. I just am very frustrated. This is really frustrating to watch. This is really frustrating to just, I don't know. Guess it needs to be re-examined. And while we might not get rid of Iber Flus mid season.
00:09:41
Speaker
I would not be opposed to a different offensive coordinator stepping up, whether that's from within the organization. At this point, honest to God, pick someone out of the stands. You hear about the Purdue kid?
00:09:53
Speaker
that the Purdue kicker missed three field goals Saturday. And then at like halftime, they had a student competition thing. Some fucking student from out in the stands came down and hit three fucking field goals. One of them was a 40 yarder. And I'm like, we should do that with the coaching staff at this point. You can have some success. Well, I mean, seriously, man, like anyone with a fucking brainstem and the moderate, you know,
00:10:18
Speaker
Football IQ would have known could scheme better than this fucking game. I would be very interested to know. What the fuck are you doing? I would be very interested to know what the conversations are like from up in the booth with him of like, no, we shouldn't do that. You know, I wonder if people are like telling him don't do this or he, you know, or or does or is he just surrounded by a bunch of yes men, you know, yeah, that that are not being honest because that's my other issue. It's not no matter what. Yes.
00:10:48
Speaker
When you're the head of the team, and then the head of the offense, and the head of the defense, and the head of the special teams, ultimately those plays lie on your shoulders, right? Success, failure, that lies on your shoulders. But you also are surrounded by support staff. And if you're only surrounding yourself with people who have the exact same mindset as you, and you're failing consistently, maybe you should take a look around and reevaluate a little bit.
00:11:17
Speaker
Or maybe someone above you should take a look around and reevaluate. Well, it's gotten to that point where absolutely it should. Yeah. I mean, these coaches specifically, you know, gets he is shitting the, you know, he's shitting every game down his fucking pants and some of this is starting to trickle on fucking poles. I'm not totally out on poles yet. This is like a, you know, we're in the rebuild or whatever. I see a lot of people checking out and saying we should get rid of poles too. I'm not quite there yet, but dude, you're starting to get shit on your shoes, dude. Like this is starting to make you look bad. And I'm really starting to question your, your.
00:11:46
Speaker
capabilities and your competence as a general manager because this is fucking ridiculous. This guy is six games now, has been unable to coach a good game and come up with a scheme.
00:11:59
Speaker
Yeah, it didn't seem like this game was at all designed in fields as favor again. It's like we took this huge back step, right? From weeks one, two and three, basically, where we're going, what the fuck are you doing? What is this play call? We were throwing when we should have been running. We were running when we should have been throwing. It seemed like everybody had no idea what was going on. It seemed like everybody was. Unprepared 10 days. It's like, wait, did you?
00:12:29
Speaker
Did you only work the last two days? You know, did you, did you prepare for the wrong game? I'm very, I'm very curious to be like, Oh shit. I thought that we were supposed to be prepared for what were you doing? And cause this did not look at all like a game plan force for fields. And it did not look at all like a game plan for against the Vikings who blitz 70% of the time, Mike.
00:12:56
Speaker
70 fucking percent of the time in the first play that we have, we have five blockers. What are you doing? What are you doing, bro? You don't get and and. And that's, you know, I'll hear the criticism that it's a little bit on fields, you should have seen that blitz come in, but. I don't know, I still think that falls somewhat on get you to, you know, that that's the first play of the game, and that's what that's what you come out with, knowing that you've had 10 days to repair and knowing that these guys are like big on the blitz and that's what you come out with.
Leadership Issues in the Bears' Organization
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Speaker
I don't know. I just can't help but feel again, like I mentioned before, like I can't help but feel about that. This guy is so lucky. And there's only an NFL because he he came from a from a program where where the quarterback was willing to look at and be like, that's fucking stupid. And he had the quarterback had the balls to fucking do something else. You know, Justin Fields is not going to do that. He's failing left and right. He is failing left and right at putting our playmakers
00:13:54
Speaker
in a position to be successful. He is failing and facilitating the proper scheme necessary for the talent that they've got. How do you go? How do you go? It's like he's not looking for being the NFC offensive player of the week, which hasn't happened for Chicago Bears since 1999. And and then in one week where your offense is exploding and then the next week you he's not even targeted until
00:14:23
Speaker
Oh my god, was it the second, late in the second? Almost in the third, I think? I mean, what are you doing? It's like this guy is looking at, I don't know, is he looking at our roster? Does he know we have on our fucking team? Like, truly. And I think he's also fortunate that we have the kind of players that we have and we have the GM that we have and the head coach that we have.
00:14:46
Speaker
because I feel like other other coaches and part of it and think Claypole was the start of it and the end of it because there's no one else that'll fucking speak out and start talking shit about him because none of them are like that and I think he's fortunate that they're not because he should be getting thrown under the bus right now with all this bullshit because most of this is on him. I would say 80 to 90% of this of our record and and where we're at right now is because of him. Well, if you want to talk true leadership, ultimately, that lands on you briefly as well.
00:15:12
Speaker
Because he is the head coach. He is the one that brought these people on. He is. He it is his responsibility. So. Getsey is fucking horseshit and Eberflux hasn't called it yet. That's my other issue. That's one of my biggest issues I've taken. First off, he's a coward, Eberflux. He's a fucking coward. He's a. He is full of shit. Anytime that he talks to. The media like listening to his interviews, it's and then listening to the reporters afterwards with their reporting and like when they
00:15:42
Speaker
they pop on their podcast and stuff, you can tell that they're like, whoa, hang on timeout. What did you just say? We have to back that one up because you're not giving us a real answer because you're giving us different conflicting information. So here's one of my questions was,
00:16:01
Speaker
We all know, we all know that white hair is pulled because of the snaps. To be fair, those snaps have been an issue, whether it's white hair or not snapping long snaps have not been good. Regardless of the second we go shotgun, it's been fucking garbage. He pulled him for performance issues. He didn't switch him to guard, like pulled him for performance issues. Why wasn't Claypool pulled? Just out of curiosity, mid game. Why was Claypool never sat? Yeah.
00:16:30
Speaker
Like, so right there, like I have this, I'm like, so you're not going to sit Claypool who very clearly failed across the board. Was not doing what he should have. Um, but then you're going to sit one of our leaders instead and not just be open about it, not say, look, the snapping wasn't there. And even after we swapped them out, snapping still was an issue. So that's definitely something we as a team need to work on. But.
00:17:00
Speaker
There are multiple reports from some media members that cover the bears, like locally, that are saying at Hellas Hall and in the practice units that this is an issue, but they're not practicing those.
00:17:16
Speaker
They're like, we're not working on it and they're not working on it. We're looking for that. So in like the open field area where, you know, you get access to, they're not seeing any of that. Now it could be taking place elsewhere, but where else would it be taking place in the locker room? It's clearly not. It's clearly not taking place. So, um, you know, I just, I, I have a big issue with, with coaches who he's a coward.
00:17:45
Speaker
Yeah, he's a coward. He sits there and he tries to be clever. He tries to come up with this bullshit every, you know, whenever he's talking to the media and yeah, he's just so obviously full of shit and just out of his element. It's fucking ridiculous. And he's not a head coach. It seems like these coaches are the only, it seems like everyone else can see what's going on, what the problems are, what should be done to fix it. Even people like people that aren't fucking in the NFL as head coaches or have never had any sort of like
00:18:11
Speaker
administrative experience in the NFL can, can see and know what the problems are with this team. But the only ones that don't, or the only ones that refuse to fucking acknowledge it are the head coach are, are Eberflux and Luke Etsy. And to an extent, Ryan polls. No, to be fair, I don't exactly have like a solution. I'm not like, this is the guy you need to go get. Sure. This is, this is the girl you need to go get. Like, you know, it's not, I don't have that, but it's very clearly there is a,
00:18:37
Speaker
You want to talk about culture. Culture starts at the top and right now leadership as a whole is bad. It is poor. There is no, it is cowardly. It's dishonorable. There is nothing here. There's nothing redeeming. Yeah, there's no redeeming qualities in this leadership in this head coaches or this offensive coordinator.
00:19:06
Speaker
uh tough game tough game to watch on both sides honestly uh it was kind of a shootout between the uh kickers for most of the game um which i don't would you credit that more to the defense or more to the lack of offense well i think
00:19:23
Speaker
It's credit to
Defensive Challenges and Phil Snow's Impact
00:19:24
Speaker
our defense. Our defense was good for sure. And it's a credit to the defensive scheme and execution of the Vikings. They didn't need to do a whole lot. They did their jobs. Did you hear? You know, D.J. Moore said basically that they were not prepared for what they saw on the field. In his interview, he was basically like, I didn't know that's not it in.
00:19:48
Speaker
to sort of sum it up, basically it was like, that's not what we prepared for, as far as coverage is concerned. And they did a good job at hiding coverages with sort of like the key phrase.
00:20:00
Speaker
in manners that they weren't ready for. So but the thing is, it wasn't a lot of new stuff necessarily. Like the Vikings have done this, but there's plenty of game film for this. Like, you know. Yeah. So I think that obviously seems to come up with a whole brand new defensive scheme, you know, out of I don't know. Now, now bringing in Phil Snow as the defensive senior analyst, the whole point to here is he's supposed to be
00:20:26
Speaker
advanced scouting opponents for the defensive coaching staff. So he's not running a defense, which is great. So maybe that will help. Maybe he can be a statistical guy and an analytic guy, um, and preventing, you know, presenting those reports to the coaching staff to maybe make some better decisions with, um,
00:20:51
Speaker
with scheming moving forward. Like, oh, yeah, yeah, they might run this, but they also hide it as actual and say, you know, yeah, just be prepared for that type of shit. And it seemed like that was not happening on our side of the ball. I would say, I mean, I think we got to give credit to the defense. They did very well. You look at the second half of the defense limited the number of first downs for honestly, for a pretty dynamic offense from a passing perspective.
00:21:21
Speaker
to just two first downs. The defense did their job in that second half, for sure. And ultimately, they limited the score.
00:21:30
Speaker
in general, as far as what, I think they only gave up 12 off 12 offensive points, right? Yeah. Yeah. The pick, the scoop and score. The scoop and score. Yeah. So they only gave up 12 points. They did their job. Yeah. If they, no, I agree. Just going by what they gave up, we, we could have won, right? Like who would have been 13 to 12. Yeah. Right. Like that's so they positioned us a hundred percent to win. Like they did their job. They did very well considering how many.
00:21:58
Speaker
backups we had out there. Um, uh, you know, it was nice to see some guys flying around the field to finally, it was nice. So I want to give credit where credit is due. I don't necessarily know if that was Eber Flus or not, right? I mean, he is running the, the defense now fully. Yeah. So at that point,
00:22:21
Speaker
Cool. Great. Like you're doing a great job as a defensive coordinator with the talent that you have. One of the questions I'd had coming into this was from the defensive side is we've played shit teams. Now Washington, I think is better than what people realize, but even with that, it was kind of like,
00:22:44
Speaker
I didn't know how much of that was our defense in stopping Washington from continuing through. So I'm like, I want to see them against an actual passing team. And that's what the Vikings are. The Vikings don't have a fucking run game. So it was like, we need to watch them against real receivers. Now granted, we missed out on Jefferson because he went to the IR. But they still have a solid receiving score. Sure.
00:23:11
Speaker
You know, cousins say what you want about him. Cousins is a seasoned quarterback who is fairly consistent, especially when it comes to his accuracy and, and just his playability, right? He may lack in certain decision making here and there, but ultimately.
00:23:28
Speaker
He's miles above most quarterbacks in the NFL, especially when you just take a look at pure stats alone. So it was nice to see the defense out there against a better offense. They were hurting, right? It was an office that was hurting, obviously, and was fairly one dimensional. But that's something that we struggled with is like, I just want to make sure we don't get carved up, especially considering we're on like second and third string quarterback sometimes. Yeah. So.
00:23:57
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Um, the good thing too is I mean, we got to see like at least a mostly full secondary.
Player Performance Concerns
00:24:02
Speaker
Um, and they, and I think they did their job for the most part, uh, save Brisker who I think you wanted to talk about a little bit. I have issues with the way Brisker executed in this game. He just seemed.
00:24:16
Speaker
hesitant. He seemed like reactionary still. And there were times, especially those big plays, those big third downs where it was stopping the Vikings from getting into position for a field goal or stopping the Vikings from converting and getting in scoring position in some capacity that he was involved with. And he
00:24:37
Speaker
He looked lost in coverage. He looked like he did not know where he was going or supposed to be doing or it was just lost. It was just lost. Yeah. I mean, we brought you over to be a leader and to be really to be a difference maker. And I just am not saying a difference being made at all. So yeah. Yeah. At which point I'm like, well, you know, we probably could have got
00:25:06
Speaker
of mid-range, which I think we did, but paid them actually mid-range, which we did not. So again, that could just be...
00:25:16
Speaker
Maybe it's a lack of consistency in the defensive scheme, right? It takes people a while. Sometimes it takes half a season for it to click with a new scheme, but we're at an even newer scheme because we've changed defensive coordinators after three games, you know? So it's like learning a whole nother one. Yeah. Um, even if it's similar, it's still something different.
00:25:37
Speaker
Exactly, exactly. And the responsibility and the coverage style and, you know, especially when you're dealing with the personnel issue, right, of having to constantly go to the bench and... Yeah, rummage through your roster for someone to take someone else's spot that's injured.
00:25:54
Speaker
Oh, I I have another issue with Ira Flus. The injury with was Eddie Jackson who went out and didn't didn't return to the game, but he said could have. Was that who he was talking about? Yeah, he was talking about how Eddie Jackson, they would have brought him back in an emergency and he would have been if they needed him if they really, really needed him. And I was like, Bitch, we needed him. What are you talking about if we needed him? Yeah. What game were you watching? Yeah.
00:26:23
Speaker
This guy does emergency mean if they're already losing? I just I don't get maybe if someone gets hurt worse, I don't if they're yeah, if they're back up. I don't fucking know, dude. This guy's like this guy's fucking you. But the way that he said it, like when you listen to the way he said it, it almost seems like it honestly seemed like he was throwing him out of the bus the way that he said it. And I was like,
00:26:49
Speaker
Which he's done. That's the other. Eberflux has done that several times. Eberflux is very quick to throw his players under the bus. But never directly. Never directly. No, sure. And it's always with the bullshit. Yeah. He'll never, you know, sack up and take responsibility or come out directly and, you know, name someone. It's just this middling fucking pussyfoot in bullshit, which... Yeah. I knew I had a third point. I knew I had a third point. I was like, there was another one. Who the fuck was it? That's what it was.
00:27:20
Speaker
Oh, and it's the same injury. He's dealing with an injury. It's the same injury. That's another issue is like, why is he back? Yeah. That was the case. Like we'll see if the, uh, I mean, that's the thing that's frustrating for me too. Is that like, you know, it's hard to assess.
00:27:39
Speaker
You know, are we starting to click? Is the defense starting to mesh together? Is Eberflux figuring it out defensively and doing well? Fuck, I don't know. It's one game that we had where the defense started finally looking good. We'll see if they can turn it into two games. But I think that's what's really frustrating about this season so far overall, too, is just I just feel like everything's so hard to truly assess outside of the miserable effort put forth by the coach. We're frank and signing the season, man. Like, we can't get a full picture of anything. Yeah. And I think that that also is going to come.
00:28:09
Speaker
That's the other issue with fields now. With fields being out, you know that where they're at right now, they're like, okay, first three games are garbage, but then the second two games, he started turning it around, like significantly turning it around. And then this game, first off, I'm just going to say it.
00:28:24
Speaker
You look at the first series from the offense and the defense. First thing the defense did when they got on the field, jumped the ball. Offside. Like, yeah. So not a great start to either side of the ball, at which point it's like nothing in me at all thought this is going to be a fun game to watch. No. Yeah. From the jump, you knew if you could tell. Immediate. I was like, fuck. And the fact that they, again, did not pivot. They did not make changes. They did not alter course.
00:28:52
Speaker
Well, they did pivot when we were doing when we had a good run game going, they pivoted away from away from the run game. Yeah. So so we went right back to our issue before. And I think that that's my that's my thing with fields is, you know, that they're at this point of evaluation of figuring, is he the future or not? And and now with this injury, he could be out one to four weeks or game. Yeah.
00:29:15
Speaker
And so it's like, now we definitely aren't going to get that full picture picture again, which scenario. Yeah, it's.
00:29:29
Speaker
And you know, now the nice thing is, um, obviously pace was out at, uh, or, um, sorry, I said pace might as well be fucking, I think it was Coles and Warren. I believe Warren was with him. Um, we're out at the Notre Dame USC game.
00:29:48
Speaker
to watch Caleb Williams get fucking exposed. Have a shit game, right? They had, well, I think it was like five GMs were out there and then ownership of multiple teams, you know, and basically shit the bed.
00:30:04
Speaker
What do you want to talk about that at all? I first off, yeah, go ahead. I was gonna I think it's worth a little digging a little bit into Caleb Williams. And I want to know what your opinions are. Because everything that I hear is this guy's the next fucking big thing. This guy is a guy that you don't pass up on. This guy will fix everything. This guy is a fucking God. Isaac drool. Yeah. Where are you guys sitting here?
00:30:32
Speaker
Like what, from like a scouting Caleb Williams standpoint or what? Yeah, just over all Caleb Williams, yeah. What you got? He is probably the most insane quarterback prospect in a while. He just has a lot of boneheaded, not boneheaded, but
00:30:54
Speaker
He makes a lot of throws off platform and stuff like that. And I think that's the biggest issue is he off platform throws, um, maybe goes out of structure too much, but the arm talent, the improv, you know, being able to improvise and extend plays. He's the best there is in college football right now. So I mean, you can't deny that he's likened to my homes for a reason. And I will say that it's not, it's not unjustified in the reasoning. Um, but you know,
00:31:25
Speaker
He's really good at USC and he's really good playing in Southern California. He's really good at that. But he got put on a stage, a national stage, big lights, nationally televised against a true top 10 team. And it's a little bit different type football, right? And it's a legitimate defense who were going after it. They were going after it. And not just that, they outsize
00:31:53
Speaker
This is the like biggest team that they've played this season, especially. And yeah, he's just he's fantastic. I will say he's only six one. Let's say it's about six or two listed at six one to fifteen. And you could tell in the game, I don't know if you watched any of the game, you can tell in the game he was having issues saying over
00:32:17
Speaker
the O line and D line combined, especially the moment that hands went up. Um, which, you know, that's just going to happen. Right. Yeah. The height, that's just physics. Like you can't do anything about it. But I think that it highlighted the importance of needing better competition because he clearly has this natural knack and ability to extend plays in creative ways that are.
00:32:45
Speaker
less a fields style of extension and more of a home style of extension of that, like, what the fuck? Where did that come from type thing, right? Not, Oh, he spawned and ran. Like, you know, it's, it's, he's making people miss. It's more than that. There's just this element that he's got and aware is not coachable. It's not teachable. Like it's, it's instinct. And, um, he excels at that for sure.
Caleb Williams as NFL Prospect
00:33:12
Speaker
Personally, I have issues with any quarterbacks going top 10 usually just because like I look at the teams that are taking top 10 picks. I'm like, bitch, you need more than a quarterback. It doesn't matter what a quarterback away. Yeah. Well, well, and that's just it. So he also had issues with his protection wasn't great. You know, he he sure the whole the team as a whole got out, just outplayed and outskilled. Yeah.
00:33:36
Speaker
And, um, the thing with USC is I think they're, are you talking about USC? Yeah. Yeah. I think they're overachieving because of Caleb Williams, because this is only Lincoln Riley second year. That defense fucking sucks. That O-line sucks as well. And I think they're ranked solely because of Caleb Williams, putting his fucking back and just, you know,
00:33:57
Speaker
He's the only reason they have any shot at being ranked right now. Exactly. And that's what I mean. That's what I mean by they went against a true top 10 team, you know, like who have just the people that they've played have not been at that caliber at a Notre Dame caliber, you know.
00:34:13
Speaker
at a competitive Notre Dame, right? This isn't Notre Dame in a shit season. This is Notre Dame in like a competitive. In the running. Great defense. Very so good. They were so much fun to watch that game, too. But yeah, you could tell his protection wasn't great. And I'm like, OK, so you can see if if you put him in, if he gets drafted, if he were to get drafted by like Andy Reid and Kansas City Chiefs, you know, sure. Yeah, he could be the next pat in the homes. If he gets drafted by the fucking Chicago Bears,
00:34:42
Speaker
Nope. He'll be the next Rex Grossman. Yeah. I can't imagine having the first overall pick and passing up the opportunity because at that point I would trade the number one pick. Oh, you're going to get so much for it. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. But I mean, I'm just like,
00:35:06
Speaker
If you're the bears, if you're the bears, you don't pass. Yeah. If you're the bears, you, I think you, you do. If you're the New England Patriots.
00:35:13
Speaker
That's a different story. That's a different story. I just, I just, do you have the, not just the talent, do you have the coaching staff to develop a talent like that? Right. Not just the talent around him, but the talent to help him get better. Well, that's what I think. I mean, I don't know. I just, I'm always wary of a guy that exceeds in college ball coming. You know what I mean?
00:35:38
Speaker
I'm always just a little hesitant. I'm sure he is. I don't know enough to say either way, you know, but whenever people talk about the next great guy, you know, coming out of college and then he goes into it, it's like the NFL is a total different. It's a whole nother monster. You know, that's his game is very translatable though. It's the thing is, um,
00:36:00
Speaker
He's able to work inside structure and outside of structure. So he's very easy. He's going to be very easy to coach. But like Stein said, I mean, it's the system that he gets drafted to. But also if Ryan polls is, you know, drafting for his job at that point, I don't.
00:36:20
Speaker
If he passes up on Caleb Williams and then the offense continues to stagger, I don't think he'll be around much longer after that. You know what I mean? So instead we'll get, we would go after Caleb, Caleb Williams, bring him in to an offense that has no protection for him. An organization that has no developmental protection for him with no developmental history of quarterbacks. And what, what do we have for him? DJ more. Yes. And
00:36:49
Speaker
Coke a minute and Coke a minute. I mean, yeah, but so he's got a nice check down.
00:36:55
Speaker
That's it. I don't. Yeah. So I think we don't even have a running back. That's the check down right now. That's healthy. Right. Well, I think it all depends on who they hire as, you know, hypothetically, if flus is gone and stuff like that, who they hired to take his spot. If it's an offensive mind, like if it's Ben Johnson or something like that, or, you know, someone with an offensive background, then I feel like you have to.
00:37:21
Speaker
But it has to be more than just an offensive background. It has to be someone that also has the recruiting capability to go out and get free agents to go out and make the trades like to say, hey, these are the guys that we need to go after. And here's who we should give up or what we should give up to get them. And that's, again, not something the bears do. I just don't see the bears and any other NFL team, you know, sure, if they get the first pick and they can take them. Yeah, you don't pass up on them probably. Definitely you don't actually. But the bears, I don't see us in that situation of
00:37:49
Speaker
We have to draft Caleb Williams. He will turn this thing around. Cause even if we draft him with the understanding that we go into a rebuild, you're going to ask him to go out there and take shots to get reps being one of the smallest quarterbacks in the league behind an offensive line that cannot protect him.
00:38:08
Speaker
I'm sorry, that just doesn't seem. Doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense to me. It doesn't make sense. And now from his point of view as well, I mean, he's openly stated that if it's a shit team that I don't want to play for, I'll just stay in college for another year.
00:38:21
Speaker
Cause he makes six mill a year and I'm like, no, I, I get it. Yeah. Like go for it, dude. Like I would do at that point and protect your health, you know? Yeah. If you can't, because that's another issue in the NFL. Like if you have a chance, if you have a shot to make it, like what, you know, that's the other issue is looking out against the game against Notre Dame. That's going to be every single week in the NFL. Hmm.
00:38:44
Speaker
And so if anything, it clearly shows that he also has growing to do as well. Yeah. You know, and now he did have some really good plays in that game, especially towards the end. I think he he like he caused like like three missed tackles and then whip this fucking pass like.
00:39:04
Speaker
so tight right where it needed to be for a score. And it was so tight, but it was like, you know, it was crazy, but he couldn't do it the entire game. And again, I think lacking. I think that showed more about USC as a whole than it did just him. That's fair. But at that point, like.
00:39:24
Speaker
That's just it is every single game is going to be like that game for him. Yeah. Yeah. The NFL level or worse, worse. Obviously it should be like two or three times worse. Um, as far as coverage and pressure and size of offensive and defensive lineman in your way. So not just in your way, but coming at you to hurt you, speed, speed alone. Yeah. It is next level.
00:39:49
Speaker
Yeah, you might see two or three of those guys from both those teams combined make it to the NFL and like make it as a starter in the NFL. If that, you know, uh, well, I think we can hop off the, uh, Caleb William train and just hit back a little more on a few things for the offense or just in general for the bears game. Uh, I think we did a, we had a really solid run game, especially considering how far we're deep, deep we are into our roster for runners. I think we did a pretty good job there. Um,
00:40:19
Speaker
some pretty bad turnovers and then we just kind of, for whatever reason, finishing the red zone, uh, which is pretty up until I think last week, I was seeing stats that adjusting fields was pretty high up there as far as efficiency in the red zone, but just couldn't do it this week, I guess.
00:40:36
Speaker
I think it's also worth mentioning that fields did get hurt. He was trying to extend the play and, uh, I mean, you already know that. Ask me how many times that yelled, throw the ball. Yeah. How many? Too many. Yeah. At least three. Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:55
Speaker
Uh, but before he got hurt, I mean, he was just going back to his bad habits.
Backup Quarterback and Coaching Preparation
00:40:59
Speaker
I can't. I won't try to defend him because I don't think it's entirely his fault, but I do think he went back to doing things that I thought he had moved on from. He absolutely had trouble recognizing the blitzes. He was playing hero ball, right? Yeah. The hesitation was there again. I don't know. I don't know what's going on with his reads, but it just seemed like the progression was.
00:41:20
Speaker
something was off, something was so far off. But you have to think if if you know that they're blitzing, if they're blitzing or if they're double teaming more, somebody's fucking open somewhere. Yeah. You know, I mean, like just a numbers game, a pure numbers game. If they're blitzing at least one other guy and double teaming more, that's two men right off the board. Like, yeah, someone has to be open. And so that was my issue with watching the game live is like, man,
00:41:47
Speaker
It follows the ball, so we're not seeing the receivers. I was like, are the receivers having issues creating space again? Because that was an issue before. That was the thing that was discussed after week three was that the receiver is not being able to create enough space. They just weren't quick enough at least. I do also think Justin Fields has had issues too.
00:42:10
Speaker
with I think wanting too much space before he throws it. I think expecting too much space between his receivers and the defenders. It definitely goes both ways. He's waiting for them to get like Ohio State type open. Yeah. I was just thinking that. I was just about to say he wants them to be college level open. Yeah. Right.
00:42:31
Speaker
and yeah that's one criticism that i think is valid that he that's a problem that he has had and something that he looks for that he's not always going to find you're not going to find people open as much as you want them to be in the nfl so what do you think about badger i think uh is it beige and badger how the fuck you say his name it's beige like agent with a B um i think well i'll say it right there i think he's a B agent sure i think for what you had to work with
00:42:58
Speaker
I mean, what more can you do? I still think he could have played better, but I mean, he's also, it was his NFL debut. The O-line and the scheme did not offer any protection to a quarterback that was back there. He had a bad turnover, like really bad turnovers under through overall. It was also stated that he didn't get any reps with the first team this last week, 10 days, 10 days and your backup didn't get one rep with the first team. Like what?
00:43:24
Speaker
That's wild. It just goes back to coaching. I would tell you exactly what. So I thought he did pretty well. You saw him get rid of the ball quick. That was the one thing I think we we were all we're all talking about it. Just how quick he was able to. I mean, you could tell the difference between him and Fields when he was. I mean, agent got the ball and it was just zip out, zip out. You know, it was now you also noticed that the plays were very similar that he was doing that on.
00:43:51
Speaker
So that's one that is ran consistently in practice. That's one that like he has in the back pocket of we know we can do this pretty quick. Let's get some consistency. Let's get some completions going for him type feel. Right. And rely on rely on the receivers and more. Right. Who is notorious for yards after catch. Right. Yeah. Of gaining that and trying to position him for a little bit success that way.
00:44:19
Speaker
So I don't necessarily think that that was so much that he was better than fields as much as, no, no, I think that's exactly what was designed for is just for that. He knew what he was doing every day. He was like, nope, this is it. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying it's better than fields. Yeah. By, by any stretch of the imagination. And I, as far as, as far as getting rid of the ball is concerned.
00:44:41
Speaker
Yeah. Like that statement has been made by other people as well. Like, Oh, but he got rid of the ball so quickly. It's like, yeah, no, that's cause it was designed. It was meant to be that way. There was no question. He was not supposed to ever. He's going to be right there. Just throw the ball. Just give it to him. Yeah. There. I will say too, I did feel like, um, just in that same kind of vein, I guess. I don't know. I think if fields hadn't gotten hurt and stayed in, I think he might've
00:45:06
Speaker
I think we would have had a better shot. And I think you could have put something together. Maybe. I don't know how you feel about that. I mean, with that, looking at how he was doing. Yeah, looking at executed in the red zone. I'm just throwing that out there. I think he was five of five on that drive. Yep. Five of five for a short distance. I want to say it was like 20 yards or something.
00:45:25
Speaker
It was five or five for like 56. Was it? So it was it was in the 40s or 50s. One of those was a long pass because at one point I think he was like three for three for 15 or four for four for 15 or some shit like that. There was a chunk of DJ more. Yeah. I wanted to be more of an insane catch on that too. Yeah. So for me, it was like.
00:45:47
Speaker
Okay, first off, undrafted, division two quarterback, right? Yeah. And I think you saw that right there. Yeah. You saw that. Now, granted, we had fucking Nathan Peterman sitting on the bench. So would it have been much better? I don't know. Maybe. I was just saying. Maybe. But here's my one question. It gave us a decent look at Pajin as far as, because we had him for a quarter and a half, basically. Yeah. So looking at him though was,
00:46:16
Speaker
He has the drive. I like his pocket awareness seemed pretty decent and also that he didn't when he was dodging things. Yes, the composure was there to the point where it wasn't like something big dramatic like swoop over just a step up another type thing. I'll move in. Yeah, I'll step into the pocket. You could tell probably closer to a traditional style quarterback.
00:46:42
Speaker
However, he did have a play where he ran it. Right. And I gave him a design run. Yeah. And he did scramble a couple of times too, I think. Yeah. He's not as fast and explosive like fields when fields acceleration is insane. Oh, it's not as far as I'm running. Oh, yeah. And and pageants wasn't quite there, but he was quicker than I anticipated. And then. My one thing, my biggest thing.
00:47:10
Speaker
is those two throws, right? The first one that, um, Oh shit. What's his name? The first one that was his nuts came back for Scott. Yeah. Yeah. Like 10 yards to catch. And my first thought was, did that get tipped? And then my second thought was, or was he trying to throw that out of bounds? Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, cause that, if,
00:47:40
Speaker
And then you pair that with that last throw for the interception, which he even admitted that he just totally under threw it. Like, yeah. Okay. So, and that, that's where I'm like, I don't know what this kid's arm strength is because it, I'm hoping to God that that wasn't him like trying to send it. And it just does not, he just doesn't have, you know what I mean? Cause like you're, I'm sorry. Like I'm so sorry. You're not going to be successful. Yeah.
00:48:04
Speaker
Did you hear like he was reason for moving him up now to second string? I'm sure we heard the reports and stuff through the practice squads and through, you know, training camp and through preseason games and stuff that they just loved what they were saying. But they loved what they were saying. In like the meetings and in film room and stuff like that. And I was like,
00:48:31
Speaker
What? Like, hang on, time out. He's great for the room. He's great for the room. So because he actually, because he, because he pays attention to nods along with you, you're like, yep, you're our second string quarterback rather than like going out and getting a legitimate second. Holy shit, dude.
00:48:50
Speaker
So, I don't know, for me, I was like, what? Yeah. With that, hey, he stepped in, the kid stepped up. Yeah, I didn't think he did bad. He did his best. I don't think he was awful. You could definitely tell that I think the moment got ahold of him with that last throw of like, we had time on the clock. You don't have to go for that shot. Sure. Not yet.
00:49:12
Speaker
Just toss it away. I think he did a decent job too of when he had turnovers, putting it behind him and just being like, fuck it. Oh, well, he chased that guy down too. First off, props to DJ Moore for chasing down the interception and getting that ball loose. That ball popped loose on that. And also to Badgent for, he was the one on top trying to get the fighting for the ball with the person that recovered it. Yeah.
00:49:40
Speaker
He easily could have just like, oh fuck. Walked it off and you know, like whatever. No, he stayed in it and he followed through and he was like, so I appreciated that too. I meant on the drives that followed too, you know, like just coming back in and being like, yeah, I had a bad, you know, I had through an interception. Yeah. You know, a fumble or whatever, but fuck it. New one, you know, fresh, fresh set of a fresh drive. Let's go. I thought that was good to see.
00:50:07
Speaker
I will say again, especially from a rookie, like not being positioned to be successful, right? Yeah. If you're not going to give him any reps with the first string, why is he your backup quarterback?
00:50:18
Speaker
Great point. I mean, that's a really good point. You don't have to give him a ton. No, 10. Give him 10. Just worst case scenario. Fuck. Give him the worst case scenario. Here's four plays. Here's and you're going to get one rep with each play with the first string. That's it. You know, but just so you have an idea. Fuck, it could have been during walkthroughs, man. Yeah. Come on. Anything. So again, not positioning, not facilitating the success of your players. Yeah, I've been saying that it's just it's just a lack of preparation.
00:50:49
Speaker
And then we saw it in the first game and it just seems to continue on. We're just not prepared, like over and over again. You got any final thoughts on the game? I think, uh, I do want to give a shout out, uh, to our, our special teams.
Special Teams and Lions' Performance
00:51:03
Speaker
I think that they've been doing a halfway decent job. We got a blocked kick. That was great. Right. So that was good. Rashim green in there. Um, he also had a black field goal. Uh,
00:51:15
Speaker
against Tampa back in week two. So, I mean, he's, you know, this is his first season with the bears and he's definitely, um, definitely come in and made a decent difference off the edge there for, uh, for special teams for, for the field goal blocking. So, uh, field goal and point after block. So, um, but
00:51:38
Speaker
Got to give, got to give credit to that. And then, you know, that third down efficiency by the bear's defense, this, this game was fantastic. So, um, I mean, all in all, I thought we saw there again, there are some good things to see. It's nice that not everyone's going out there and just being like, ah, fuck it. We were in that game for a while. We were in the game, even, even with Beijing in there, like we were still competing.
00:52:05
Speaker
We finally scored a fucking touchdown. I mean, like you said too, that scoop and score doesn't happen. That's a totally different game. All right. Well, that's it for the game. This sucks. Losing sucks, man. Watching these coaches do what they do sucks. It's nice seeing the effort. It's nice seeing that there are guys that still aren't giving up, you know, guys like Scott making that kind of effort. DJ Moore is still trying. Our line is still, I think, doing their best. Uh, it's just, uh,
00:52:32
Speaker
Deontay for me for string running back and like having a great game, I think. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. If we just stuck with them, I think it also would have been a much different game again. Yeah. The run game was there and then it just wasn't pivoted away from it.
00:52:53
Speaker
All right. Now it is time to move into the NFC North vibe. Check with five check. It's going to be a short one this, this week because what happened? Well, we just kind of did half the vibe check. Yeah, half of it's been done. And then, uh, yeah, the Packers had to buy this week. And so it's pretty much just one more game to cover.
00:53:22
Speaker
I swear to God, if the Packers lose to the Broncos next week, I'm going to have a tough time getting on here. Yeah. That's all the Bears fans have now. Now it's just watching the hope and the Packers lose. That's our only bright spots. I feel like it's, it's ugly. Yeah. I have a dude, I am really like my football respect for Aaron Rodgers went up.
00:53:46
Speaker
Because it seems, I mean, just looking what's happening with, I mean, I already mentioned with Luke Getsey, but then also with like Matt Leflore, it seemed like he really made up for a lot of, a lot of what was going on in the Packers organization. You were getting the biggest culprit, Nathaniel Hackett. Aaron Rodgers single handedly got Nathaniel Hackett a head coaching job. Yeah. And he completely fucking fumbled it. So, Lions versus Bucks.
00:54:14
Speaker
is the one game that we have left to cover for the NFC North vibe check. Buccaneers are back in the classic creamsicles, which I think those are so cool, dude. They go so hard, man. They're fucking sick. I love that color. Everything like the logo, the old logo too is really sick. Like it's just really cool. Uh, we were mentioning earlier,
00:54:36
Speaker
that, uh, it seems like Jared Goff has moved honestly into the category of elite quarterback. And which is, uh, it's pretty nuts to see him and, uh, I'm on Ross ain't Brown popped off this game. 12 for one 24 and one, you got it. 15 targets. Holy shit. So I'm on our St. Brown has 12 receptions for 124 yards and one touchdown. And you said what you 18 targets yet. 15. Oh, 15. That's crazy.
00:55:07
Speaker
But I mean, that was the whole name of the game. I mean, they just relied on golf to win the game. They only had 40 rushing yards on 22 attempts because David Montgomery got injured, which he'll be out for a little bit again. Oh, I didn't see that. What happened? Yeah, poor money. I don't know ribs. Yeah, ribs, ribs. That's what it was because it's the same as no. He's ribs and McCaffrey is abdominal or something like that. I saw I saw McCaffrey was oblique. So yeah.
00:55:37
Speaker
unfortunate. Um, yeah, they had no run game. Their longest run was eight yards. Um, but yeah, Dan Campbell just said that he pretty much relied on Jared Goff to go win him that game. And he did it. I mean, he was just dice in that defense, bro. His, his interviews are fucking gold. Like,
00:56:03
Speaker
listening to the head coach of the Detroit Lions talk, it just, I was like, how do we not have you? Like that is, that is like Chicago talk right there. It's just like blunt and just, did you see his interview after they made that, that pass to the offensive tight ends or to offensive tackle? I mean, where I guess he got caught up listening to the crowd.
00:56:30
Speaker
And the headset, the call came down, they were like, how about we go with this? And he was just kind of like, yeah, sure, whatever. And he was like, yeah, that sounds good, but he actually didn't know what he was agreeing to. And then he looked up and he saw that they were throwing it to the tackle and he's like, what the fuck are we doing? I'm like, this dude is a riot. I dig him. He's a character for sure.
00:56:55
Speaker
Good for you, Detroit. Good for you. Yeah, they've really done it right there. It's it's it's cool to see them on the on the come up. It's very cool. Give me more. Tell me more about them. Well, it was. Yeah, it's fucking been playing insane ever since that stinker in week two against Geno Smith. They've just been.
00:57:17
Speaker
Locked in. Their rush defense has been second best in the entire league. From a statistical standpoint, but it's kind of hard to... I think they might just have the best rush defense. And I think they're just kind of going off of that, off of generating pressure and being able to hold the run. There's not a lot you can do at that point. Yo, the pressure they put on
00:57:47
Speaker
First off, the Buccaneers defense puts on good pressure. The Lions put on better pressure and you could tell because it looked like old boy was like Baker Mayfield was lost some of the some of the images of him like walking on the sidelines and stuff like I don't.
00:58:07
Speaker
I don't know if he took a hit that no one caught that. Like he looked like he was fucked up. He was not. He got his valor on or something. And I was like, holy shit. This is that that was that was very interesting to see because they've had they've been having a another the box or another one. They're like. Again, people should not discount them or discredit them. I was just because Brady's not there. They have a they still have a solid team like as a whole, so.
00:58:37
Speaker
very capable of winning their division. So like, um, but seeing them, you know, up against the lions was, it was a good game. Tell me. Yeah. I mean, tell me if this is a bad read on my part, but it seemed like if they could get, if the bucks could get more consistent play out of their wide receivers.
00:58:55
Speaker
They could really easily make like they're that close. And if they could get more consistent play from their wide receivers, they could take that next step and really be a threat because it looked like, I mean, they kept the game close for most of the game. And I don't think you're wrong. I don't know if it's wide receivers though. I think the wide receiver core is older. I just was seeing a lot of drops and stuff and a lot of, uh, I think their depth is really bad outside of the top two. They don't really have anything. And I mean, that's the big, I mean, Mike Evans.
00:59:26
Speaker
I don't think he's ever gone under a thousand yards his entire career. Um, which is like one of the only like two or three wide receivers to ever do that in his entire career. Um, Chris Godwin, definitely a serviceable, good wide receiver. But then after that, you got like Trey Palmer and stuff like that. And who the fuck is Trey Palmer? He's a true number three. I mean, like it's a lot wider too, right? Yeah. Oh, he's a rookie too, I think.
00:59:56
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Okay. Did you see the one? Was it Syracuse? No. I'm trying to remember. Nebraska. Thank you. I just want to point out the Lions did that without a run game. Yeah.
01:00:21
Speaker
Awesome. Very cool. Awesome. Yeah. I mean, that's, yeah, it's just, I mean, like you guys said, the Buccaneers have a very underrated and good defense. And for Jared Goff, just to, in a one dimensional offense like that, just dice him up is commendable. I mean, that team is fucking, it feels like they've been, it feels like the games they've been winning have been out of structure. So I mean, if they can get back on track,
01:00:48
Speaker
I mean, that's really crazy. They're already tied for best, you know, record in the league with the Eagles and Niners losses. So, I mean, I think they've been the most consistently well-rounded team. You can tell that they took that loss to the Seahawks, like to heart. You can tell that they absolutely were like, fuck this. I mean, like almost like Tim Tebow apologies, like level, you know, of like,
01:01:19
Speaker
No, never again. You know, I'm sorry to my fans. I'm sorry to the coaches and my teammates like never again while I'm here will this happen? And just like the whole team was like, fuck this shit. So yeah, they definitely seem to have not not necessarily a chip as much of a no cracker. We know what we are. We know what we want to do. We're going to fucking do it. And no one's taken that away from us.
01:01:45
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I mean lions are just fucking good and it sucks that they're in our division cuz they're gonna be good They're they're creating an insane Base to work off of yeah great foundation. I think yeah foundation wasn't what I was looking for and um yeah, I think it's I think we're gonna be good for a long time because I haven't got a lot of Good, they have a good young core and they've done it, right? They really have coaching stuff
01:02:11
Speaker
I'm just, I am interested in seeing what happens to the offense. If Ben Johnson ends up leaving, like, I think it'll take a, I think it'll take a very big hit. Cause I think Ben Johnson is, he is to credit for the unique and explosive offensive. Well, not explosive, but the unique and consistent, consistent. Yeah. Um, consistently executes and stuff like that.
01:02:43
Speaker
So I think it'll be interesting to see what happens if he ends up leaving because he could Get a very good coaching job Well for this season he's there and for this season, they're really fucking good and they're Well, they also seem across the board to all be bought in. Yeah, I mean I don't know if you would necessarily even leave if they haven't won the whole thing It seems like they've bought in since they were losing, you know, like yes
01:03:10
Speaker
14 games you know his first year. When they knew it was going into a rebuild a hundred percent it felt it just feels like they were like fuck it we're doing this and this is how we're doing it and everyone's like buy in or get the fuck out and the ones that are there are absolutely like
01:03:26
Speaker
No, we started this, we're going to finish it. I don't know, I would be surprised. It would have to take a pretty big number, but even then, just the relationship and the structure and status of Detroit, at least what it seems that it faced value from our perspective,
01:03:42
Speaker
Uh, I wonder if it almost be enough to keep him, you know, I've been like, look, you know, we can't pay you as much as a head coaching position, but like, do they finish
Green Bay Packers' Defensive Challenges
01:03:51
Speaker
this thing with us? Like, look at what we've done. Yeah. Like, and I just see this through. Yeah. It would be nice to see like an honorable coach. Yeah. Do that. And short supply.
01:04:04
Speaker
Uh, yeah, yeah. But anyways, there you have it. That's it. That's it for the lines for lines and bucks. And I think that's about it for the NFC North vibe check. Unless, uh, unless you want to hit a little bit, just on how you're feeling about the Packers coming back. They got the Broncos next, right? I don't know if you want to hit on that a little bit or how you feeling? I don't feel great. If I'm going to keep it a buck, I mean,
01:04:33
Speaker
If we can't perform against this, you know, quickly descending Bronco's team, then I'm not sure if we're ever going to look serviceable outside of our week one game against the Bears. Because that was our most sound game. And outside of that, it's been up and down.
01:04:59
Speaker
We haven't put together a full game since then, and it shows. I think there's just a lot of inconsistencies. I did. Not to pile on you here, but even week one. It didn't look pretty. Yeah, it wasn't pretty. It wasn't anything.
01:05:19
Speaker
That's what I'm saying. It was, that's, I'm just pointing to that as our most service. Like your high point. Yeah. Yeah. That's a high point. And that definitely shouldn't be it if you're looking to have success. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I have been advocating for our defensive coordinator to get fucking
01:05:40
Speaker
shot into the sun, but that doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon. I did come across a stat, which was pretty interesting. It looks like Fangio style defenses, where it's you keep a shell and you, you know, get rid of explosive plays and stuff like that have been at an all time low.
01:06:04
Speaker
the past few years because teams are just willing to dink and dunk on you. And that's exactly what's been happening. And, um, it just, it all depends on if we're going to change anything. And I don't think that will, um, yeah, I think our defense is just going to keep getting, I mean, cause that's how Russell Wilson came back and won in the game against you guys. I mean, it was the quick passes, the dink and dunks. Yeah. Taking, taking what the, what the defense is giving you.
01:06:34
Speaker
And that's what it is. And I think that's our biggest, our biggest issue. And I don't have, I was unfortunate to go ahead. No, no, you go ahead. I was gonna say that's unfortunate too, because I feel like those are the most frustrating games to watch when, when your defense is giving that up and your, your coaching staff doesn't do anything to adjust. And so they just, the other team just marches down the field that on you, you know, 10 yards, 15 yards at a time, just taking those short passes and taking what you're giving them. And it's just like,
01:07:03
Speaker
Those are the most frustrating to watch because you're just like fucking stop them, like change something. Like stop giving him this cushion. Stop giving him, you know, this, uh, mid range, you know, short range passes. Like it's like death by a thousand cuts, you know, it just, it sucks.
01:07:21
Speaker
That's what really pisses me off too, is because we have insanely talented players on the defensive side of the ball. We just don't put them in position to succeed or maximize their talent. I mean, we have Jair Alexander playing 10, 15 yards off every fucking play. And I'm like, dude, he's like a top three. He was second team all pro last year. Let him fucking man up the best receiver. That's his fucking job. Yeah. No, you want the linebacker manning up the best receiver.
01:07:49
Speaker
one of us one of us one of us it was i mean we have it's it's really it's really stale to watch yeah the same shit every single week and just doing nothing about it and i hope no feeling if we lose to denver it'll fucking
01:08:15
Speaker
you know, light a fire under their ass and notice that something's wrong and something needs to be fixed. Yeah, like you said earlier, I think Rogers was patching up a lot of holes with his playmaking ability and now gargantuan audacity. Yeah, I mean, he was you saw it decline last year, but he was still patching up a lot of holes and just, you know,
01:08:42
Speaker
being able to get shit done when you have an inexperienced offense that can't pull shit out of their ass, it looks pretty stale. But yeah, I'm not confident for next week, and that's about it. I hope we can look decent.
01:09:02
Speaker
So the vibe is the bears are firmly in last place. The lions are firmly in first place and the middle is not too pretty, but it is between the Vikings and the Packers. I think we could easily say that the Lions are very clearly in first place and everyone else is just in some type of last place. Is this the biggest one to two drop off in the league in a division?
01:09:29
Speaker
in the whole league from a division standpoint. Yeah. Do you mean overall like one to the next three drop off? Yeah. One to like the second best team. I think the drop off is just so gargantuan in the NFC North. Yeah. It's pretty bad. No, I don't see it. No, I think they just want it more. I think you're right.
01:09:53
Speaker
So that wraps up the NFC North live check. So now we are going to go into a week seven preview this upcoming Sunday. Sunday, is it? Yeah.
01:10:06
Speaker
This is certainly not going to be a Monday night game. This upcoming Sunday, the Chicago Bears will take on the Las Vegas Raiders. The Raiders are on a two win streak on a two game win streak, but it looks like, um, it looks like this game is going to be a battle of the backups. Cause Jimmy Garoppolo is doubtful. Justin Fields is also about you went to the hospital. So.
01:10:29
Speaker
Garoppolo ended up going to the hospital. Have you heard any updates on that? I don't know. It was a back entry. That's all I know. Well, that's what they said at first and then and then he ended up leaving the stadium to go to the hospital. So they were like, I don't know if they were concerned about like internally, like bleeding or something. Yeah. So it's funny because Brian Hoyer is probably starting for them. Is that what that looks like? Yeah.
01:10:55
Speaker
which is Brian Hoyer versus Tyson badging the fucking, the game that everyone's waiting to see. Everyone's yeah. Everyone's. Yeah. That's just man. You know what? Honestly, it'll give us a good look at the rest of the team. You know, like you don't really have to worry about the offenses at that point. It's like, all right, let's take a look at the defensive special teams. Yeah. We can assess the defense and see how that's going to go. Uh,
01:11:22
Speaker
I don't know. I don't even know how I want to go about this as far as like even making predictions or giving the breakdown. I mean, we just started like we're just bad, man. And I'm going to call it right now. There's get the win. You think so. There's get the win. We get win number two, baby. In Chicago, it's going to be our first home game win in over 384 days. Fucking sucks.
01:11:42
Speaker
It's going to be our first Sunday win in over the same amount of time. I guess by then it would be 391 days, I think it is. God, my heart goes out to the fucking Bears fans that have been paying to go watch the Bears lose this past week. That's crazy. We just won on a Thursday and the last game before that that we won was on a Monday. We haven't won on a Sunday and in Chicago,
01:12:07
Speaker
Since that's disgusting. It'll be three hundred and ninety one day. That's you guys have a Sunday night game coming up after this week. Prime time a prime time,
Upcoming Bears vs. Chargers Game
01:12:20
Speaker
baby. Prime time. Yes. Give the Chicago Bears a fucking prime time again. Just chargers. Yeah. Justin Herbert get right game. This sucks. It's not like he's not been getting right. No, the charges are hurting. Their injuries is.
01:12:37
Speaker
But I think that they're just sort of in like a holding pattern right now, basically like a survival mode until people get healthy again. So that happens, you know, but they still have talent. Her road is still fun to watch. Like, yeah, but God damn. So back to the.
01:12:55
Speaker
I mean, just again, I don't know. What do you want to do with this game? So you already called the Bears going to win. I'm telling you, man, the Bears are going to win. Bears are going to win. It's going to make people are going to be talking about, oh, well, maybe if Fields does come back, maybe he shouldn't start. Maybe we should see what we can do with Badge. I could see that happening.
01:13:19
Speaker
Also being like, you know, hey man, like look how gutsy gets it now, you know gutsy gets it done You know like I guarantee that we're gonna have some weird shit happen The head coaches look good all of a sudden like do you remember the last time? The last time that the Bears and Raiders met was max still with us at the time I
01:13:44
Speaker
No, it was two years ago. It was John Gruden's last game. I don't remember it. You guys feel like something happened. You guys won in Las Vegas, but it was John Gruden's last game. I think he resigned like the day after.
01:14:04
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I could see that. This game is going to be fucking remember at the beginning of doing this and you, I was saying, I don't see how it can get worse.
01:14:22
Speaker
Buckle up, baby. It's gotten so much work. I mean, this is truly for me, dude. Like, I just think this is worst case scenario. Like we suck and we're just unable to really assess and get a true, you know, measurement for anything. And this is just, like I said, I just think this is worst case scenario for us. The Raiders defense has been decent the last few weeks. Yeah. I mean, just generating pressure. Max Crosby has just been wrecking offensive lines like usual.
01:14:51
Speaker
Well, pressure is all it takes for our offense to fucking shit the bed and for our offensive coordinator to shoot his pants. So you think Devontae Adams will feel like he has to cook the bears again. I feel like Devontae Adams is going to come out and be like, I need to cook the bears today.
01:15:11
Speaker
Devontae Adams got knocked into fucking... Yo, that hit though. That was fucking... I guarantee he got up and thought he was playing for the Packers because holy shit. He got wrecked. That was wild. So I don't know. If he's back on planet earth this week, maybe he'll show up.
01:15:33
Speaker
Sorry, yeah, there's like nothing to cover for like a bear's raiders. It's two backups going at each other. Yeah. At this point, it's going to come down to who can actually execute something. And that's it. That's fucking it. You can actually put a serviceable game together. He said, and as though I had something else and I thought I did, and I thought maybe it'll come to me at the moment. It did not. Who can execute something?
01:16:01
Speaker
Who can get the ball from the center's hands to the quarterback's hands? Who can successfully snap the ball and get it to a receiver? I do have, I am hoping that for this next one, that we get rid of the shotgun if we need to, if we can't get the snap down. Yeah, just fucking stop doing it. You're causing so many issues by like moving the quarterback's eyes off the field for even that moment, that extra like... I think it's significant. That extra half second is costing us. It bucks with the timing of everything.
01:16:28
Speaker
And so it's just like, oh my God. Because by the time they get it and bring it back in, it's like, oh, the line has happened. Yeah. So I'm hoping with that, I think if they get that locked down and buckle up a couple of things, we might actually be able to like fight for this game. Yeah. Get it right or don't do it at all, you know, as far as the shotgun snap goes. All right. That wraps it up. So now we move into the section of the podcast where we share things. Sex.
01:16:59
Speaker
You said section and you put it like a big emphasis on the section part. Sorry, sorry. You doing all right Omar? Well, you know what I got on my mind. Just fucking fucking- Sean, I know. Yeah, uh, Stein, what do you got for the people?
01:17:15
Speaker
Man, what do I got? Pray, pray, pray, pray. I don't even believe pray. Pray for strength. Pray for strength. Lord, bear me strength. Can prayers fix this? No. Can prayers fix this? You're right. It's unfixable. And I don't care how many gods are crazy. It does not matter at this point. It doesn't matter what deity. It doesn't matter. Basically, the way you fix this is
01:17:39
Speaker
You go into the temple with a fucking whip and just start flipping tables and hitting people. That's how you fix it. No, you can't say that. Most of our team is. You can't do that. You can't. You can't talk about going in there with a whip like that. I was going like Old Testament. All right. Someone's getting snipped. I guess. What do you got?
01:18:03
Speaker
Just fucking dog in right now, man Be sure to check out my other podcast this by the way, this is me like toned down compared to the other podcast with dicks Flix is filled with the next you can find us on any Platform that you listen up podcasts on and if you don't hit me up, let me know because I need to put it on there And then Jim heroes
01:18:29
Speaker
real gym heroes on Instagram, DM me anytime, uh, still working on getting some content out for the social media side of things, but I really don't give a shit about social media. So, um, I prefer dealing with, uh, one-on-one. So yeah, that's what I got you pretty cool.
Closing and Listener Engagement
01:18:49
Speaker
Uh, what do I got?
01:18:53
Speaker
Fucking Isaac. Yeah, let's let Isaac go. Isaac missed last week, so let him go second. Instagram. Isaac, E-Y-E-Z-E-C-K. I keep all my projects updated on there, and I do have music dropping this week. So let's go. Yeah. Updated on there. We'll share it on the page, dude.
01:19:19
Speaker
Very cool, very cool. Omar. If you want to find me, you can find me on Instagram, at O-H-M-A-R, Daniel. I am working on some stuff too, and we'll hopefully have it out soon. If you want to listen to my music, it's on anywhere you listen to music, just my regular name, Omar Daniel. No H.
01:19:39
Speaker
Guys, and for the podcast, if you want to follow us on TikTok and Instagram, we are at the Bear Claw Pod on both of those. If you want to send us an email about anything, if you want to vent your frustrations, if you want to give us criticisms or praises, you can do that and send an email to bearclawpodcontact at gmail.com.
01:19:58
Speaker
Please, please, please rate and review us. Share us with your friends. We appreciate you if you are listening. Thank you very, very much. Thank you, Stein, for being here. Isaac, also thank you for being here. Isaac is being a trooper. He is currently sick right now, but still he pushes through like a true Midwesterner. Thanks, guys. We'll catch you next week, you know, like we have been, you know, within a couple of days of the game.
01:20:26
Speaker
But until then, you know, chin up, bear down, fucking keep on keeping on. And we will see you next time on the Bear Claw Pod.