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Episode 20: The Chicago Bears vs the Atlanta Falcons
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The boys discuss the Bears' decisive win, and Justin Fields' great game over the Atlanta Falcons. They also talk about the drama at the end of Cowboys and Lions game. Then they check in on the Packers and Jordan love before going into the week 18 preview. Give it a listen, and as always, chin up and Bear Down!
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Transcript
Technical Introduction and Apologies
00:00:01
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Bearclaw podcast. Uh, first off, I'd like to apologize for last week's episode, something happened with the editing or something and it got all messed up. So sorry for that one, but hopefully this one we will have our proper intro.
Introductions and Guest Highlights
00:00:15
Speaker
I am your host Omar Delgado with me as always Zachary Stein, also known as Stein and back on wax with us, our resident Packer fan, Isaac Turgeon. Greetings.
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Speaker
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Bears' Performance and Player Updates
00:00:31
Speaker
we welcome you in the Bears fucking got their fifth straight home win against the Atlanta Falcons this past Sunday still have to double check that every time it doesn't feel right it doesn't feel right you know doesn't feels right yeah
00:00:51
Speaker
So yeah, before we dig into that, I'm going to give you a few updates here. So it looks like as of right now, Jalen Johnson, DJ Moore, Cole Comette, they're all currently listed as questionable for this Sunday's game against the Green Bay Packers. Jalen Johnson and Cole Comette did not practice today. DJ Moore had limited practice. So yeah, we'll continue to see. I mean, it sounds like Isaac, you're telling me Cole Comette saying that he's saying he's going to play.
00:01:19
Speaker
He says he wants to. Yeah. He said, he said, and quote that if we're sitting at home, we want the Packers to be sitting at home as well. So yeah, I guess he wants, he wants to play. Yeah. Um, you had said that I'm a little worried about Colcomet just cause he took that pretty mean shot to the knee and it seems like he's thugging it out, but I'm almost kind of like, or is it worth it? Thugging it out here. If you're going to end up with a greater injury, I don't know, but we'll see. He was, he was very open about not putting the team.
00:01:50
Speaker
like not detrimenting the team. Sure. And that taking his health first. So yeah, see how that plays out. We'll see. We'll see. Um, that's it for injury news. Um, Yannika and Gockway's ankles still snapped, so he's not coming back. Still injured. He's done for the season. So yeah. Um,
Pro Bowl Announcements and Surprises
00:02:10
Speaker
so we're going to move on to some better news now. Uh, Montes, Sweat and Jalen Johnson were selected to the Pro Bowl roster.
00:02:16
Speaker
which is pretty exciting. Big ups to them. Yeah. Woo. Um, did you see how they got, uh, how it was announced to them? Yeah. It was really cool little emergency meeting or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Um, Felucin, some of the staff called the, both of those guys in most separately, but call them both in and have their families there. And we're like, Oh, we have an emergency meeting for you, blah, blah, blah. And then they come in and they're like, uh, basically throw it up on these set of slides that they had and let them know that they got selected for the pro bowl. So.
00:02:47
Speaker
Pretty cool stuff. That's it for updates. And so now we're going to move on to the part where I say, Stein, how are you feeling?
00:02:56
Speaker
How am I feeling? I mean, it was a it was a fun game. Snow in at Soldier Field. That's just that's good classic Chicago football right there. And nothing makes me happier than to see our guys go out and honestly show out on both sides of the ball. So I felt I felt good. I felt good. But I also sort of felt I also sort of feel I'm
00:03:23
Speaker
What's the term I'm looking for here? Kind of bittersweet, right? Just with the unknown still being out there. So, yeah, yeah. The game itself, great. Future, meh. Yeah. Yeah, I'm feeling bummed. I unfortunately wasn't able to, I had work, so I wasn't able to watch it live. But I mean, it's still pretty great.
00:03:53
Speaker
uh, I feel pretty good about it. It was a pretty good, pretty convincing win from what I've seen. It looked overall like everyone was playing, um, playing really well. So, uh, yeah, the good feelings quickly. So side when, you know, we start, when I go online and start seeing all this, uh, when the convert, see how this conversation is going on about the future, you know, whether that be about the quarterback or, uh,
00:04:22
Speaker
the coaching staff or whatever. It just doesn't make for a productive, productive conversation, I think. But what can you do? So with that, let's just start digging into the football game. So that sort of field, like you said, was a snowy day. The
Bears' Game Strategy and Weather Impact
00:04:45
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wind was picking up pretty good coming off of the lake.
00:04:49
Speaker
To start off, just overall, I think the Bears really dominated the time of possession. They had the ball for 37 minutes and 14 seconds, and the Falcons only had it for 22 minutes and 46 seconds. Got started early. Justin Fields had a pretty cool, pretty sick catch to DJ Moore for a corner touchdown to get the scoring started.
00:05:13
Speaker
There's accuracy throughout this game was just fun to watch it was I mean, yeah, that one is actually It is impressive with how snowy I mean, I don't know what the visibility looked like on the actual field but watching the Watching their broadcast. I mean it looked like I look like you couldn't see shit In the beginning especially yeah
00:05:34
Speaker
Yeah, it was, it was, it was fun. It was, God, I love snow games. I do. I miss it. Yeah. It's really fun. And I feel like Justin Fields in bad weather really excels. I wonder what it is about that. Um, I mean, the ball fits different when you're, when it's cold, right? Cold weather footballs are just.
00:05:53
Speaker
There's something about the grip is slightly different and maybe it suits him, maybe it benefits him a little bit better on his throws, but then it's also, you never know with cold weather how much you're actually going to throw, you know, because I don't know if you saw the wind was also like significant enough that it was messing with the kickers in one direction, especially. This was one of the only, because I always thought it was kind of silly, like when the weather's good, it feels kind of silly to decide which way you're kicking, you know?
00:06:21
Speaker
But this is one where it's like, okay, that definitely gives you this game was definitely like whoever's kicking a certain direction is going to be at a disadvantage for sure.
00:06:28
Speaker
Well, something to consider when you're at Soldier Field though, right? Outdoors is time of day. So what time is it going to be during the second half when you're getting the ball? Yeah. Or not, right? Because even if you start out and it's fresh during the day, but you look at the weather for the Midwest, I mean, you know, we can get snow in the middle of the fucking year sometimes, and then we can have a fucking like 75 degree day in January. Spring weather day, yeah.
00:06:57
Speaker
And so all of a sudden, there's no wind. And then before you know it, there is wind. And so timing really does matter in that. So I get like, yeah, it's a great day. But so it doesn't really, you don't think, well, at this moment, it doesn't matter. But they're not thinking in this moment. They're thinking two hours from now when the second half starts, how the weather could shift by then, especially with getting the lake effect out there.
00:07:25
Speaker
But at Soldier Field indoors, it doesn't fucking matter. I mean, there are some stadiums out there where they sort of have built them where the airflow is a certain direction of certain people. Sure. But yeah, Minnesota. So. Yeah. But I mean, the weather today, this this weekend was it was fun. It was fun.
00:07:52
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You got to see, uh, uh, Yung-ho Koo, uh, who is at the time, uh, coming into this game was, uh, one of the most accurate kickers in football right now. Um, missed not one, but two, right? He missed two field goals. Yeah, he was one for three on field goals. Um, one of them was a doink, which I think, uh, brought PTSD for everyone. Everyone was like, oh, just the sound, I think. Not necessarily that, you know, it was them kicking. I think just the sound sends, makes any, uh, any Bears fans shutter.
00:08:22
Speaker
Yeah. They get shell shocked. Charlie's coming. Really racist all of a sudden. Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this whole game, it's like, just like you mentioned earlier, I feel like Justin Fields looks really good, not only with the accuracy, but just with one keeping his eyes downfield when he was scrambling, and then also just his chemistry with DJ Moore, and then also just making like crazy throws, like off balance, sidearm, little slings, and shit like that. Like, he just looked great this game.
00:08:52
Speaker
There were a couple of drop passes to Scott and... Did Mooney have one drop?
00:08:59
Speaker
It's got the head two of them, but I mean like that we're literally it was tight It's super tight window. The ball was perfectly placed. It could not have been any better and it was it was on the receiver at that point Yeah, they just all it in. Yeah, and But I love that he was taking shots downfield not just to more he was trying to like give other guys opportunity downfield as well Yeah, and not just big downfield, but like, you know like that 20 to 40 yard range right not just bombing it down. Yeah. Yeah and
00:09:29
Speaker
And unfortunately, there were just a couple guys that couldn't haul it in. And you get that? We got that young squad, a couple of people playing up in position right now. Different routes. A couple of practice squad guys, right? Were playing for us. Yeah. But honestly, it felt good. It was nice to see it out there. And he didn't quit just because they dropped one. He didn't stop throwing it to them. He was like, no, I'm going to keep coming for you. You got to get this. Yeah.
00:09:57
Speaker
I felt like he made it through his progressions fairly well, you know, better than usual. Yeah. I still think there's room for improvement in cases, but I also think that his ceiling is going to be a little bit lower just because of the type of player he is. He's always going to have that ability.
00:10:19
Speaker
to extend the play and and pick up your positive yardage, right? And I think that is something that he did really well in this game. Also is when he did tuck and run or on some of the options when he decided to keep it and go. I just felt like it was more. Less hard fought yardage. That's something that gets he had made comment on about like, you know, just because two runners get
00:10:48
Speaker
one might end up with a hundred yards on 20 carries and one might end up with 50 yards on four carries. Like really what comes down to it is which was the safest and most productive, safest way to like taking less hits along the way. Because even if you only ran it four times for 50 yards, you may have taken a huge shot on one or two of those. Whereas the 20 attempt person is just doing like
00:11:15
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your usual like ground and pound, you know, like, like little dinks pinballing off people a little different that way, right? Yeah. He was like, or it could be flip flop for the other. And I feel like fields was making better decisions on the type of running he did in this game. As far as as like making sure to when he did go for it, he was making better choices on like when to slide or when to
00:11:44
Speaker
Get just running out of bounds instead, you know that kind of stuff. Yeah So and you're saying you only really have one right here, too Yeah, I think there was only the one run where he really lowered his shoulder to get the the first down but the rest of them he was sliding and honestly that Did he did that a little bit too? Like he wasn't there was that one run where I think it should have been a roughing the passer and they just didn't Call it. Oh boy smacked him in the head. Yeah
00:12:08
Speaker
Oh, yeah, he's just not I don't think he's ever gonna get those get those calls like at all It's just like it's been all season. It's been a problem and it's just like I don't understand it Yeah, he lets him know which I mean, maybe that's
00:12:21
Speaker
Maybe that makes it worse. The refs are like, man, fuck this guy. I told me I'd do my job. But it's like, yeah. Every single quarterback talks to the refs about things to watch for regarding their type of play, especially if it's a ref that's never reffed one of their games before. And that's just standard. That is standard practice. Every single quarterback does it.
00:12:43
Speaker
Especially mobile quarterbacks. Uh, so, you know, Russell Wilson was notorious for doing that when he was more mobile than he is currently. Uh, uh, completely immobile now fucking bench. Um, uh, Mahomes does it hell even Brady did it and he wasn't a mobile quarterback, you know, like, uh, it's just sort of.
00:13:07
Speaker
That is standard practice. And unfortunately, I think that it's just sort of, as soon as he starts moving, they immediately start considering him a live runner, which technically they're supposed to. However, there is like, he is still a quarterback. And like, there is still, there are certain rules that do apply to that quarterback position, even though you've become a live runner, that he is not getting the proper calls on. Honestly, calls, the calls this whole season have just been fucking horrendous across the league.
00:13:32
Speaker
Yeah, like every single week. I feel like we can pick out not just one game. We can pick out like a five several across like Jesus Christ. Where are they getting these fucking scrubs? Yeah Yeah, I don't know it's uh It's pretty dangerous though. And I don't know I still think he's making better choices. I
00:13:55
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, I wanted to say too, like, I think if you look at the stats, like you, you would think that he was only going to just to like reiterate your point. Like if you look stats wise, you would think he was only going to DJ moon to DJ more, but he really was trying to spread the ball out and the receivers just weren't bringing it in. More is the one that can bring it in and create gardens after carriers. Like that's the issue. So even doing that DJ more still had a great game and that chemistry was still going. So, uh, yeah. So the gas game continued, you know,
00:14:25
Speaker
He took that. He did that slide. That's the thing, too. That was annoying. Even though he is a live runner, it's not like he was putting his shoulder down. He's very obviously slid, and they still just got hit, and they just won't call it. But as the game continued, it was just more of the same thing. He was spreading the ball out. He was just getting it to DJ Moore, who was hauling it in. He had a really sick little run TD. I thought it was kind of a brick. They were able to utilize both.
00:14:53
Speaker
both phases on the offensive side between running and passing. And when you're able to do that, you're able to
00:15:02
Speaker
sort of keep the defense in a neutral position, right? They're not playing forward too often, but they're also not playing too far back. Like they're sort of stuck and hesitant. They have to not to be reactionary. And even even that, yeah, you're forcing their hand at that point because when the run game is as effective as it was. I mean, Roshan Johnson was doing really well. He looked good out there. You know, Fields was able to do some damage out there. I mean, again, like Cleo Herbert just. Yeah, we haven't talked about it yet, but yeah, he had a really good ass game.
00:15:31
Speaker
Um, and so like when you're dominating that but then you're also just like tearing it up down the field, you know that that's that's You're doing great and that offensive line Honestly, like for the most part there was one there was one play where someone came through just completely like yeah with this act Yeah, that was pretty bad and You know and and he had called it right he had called like up on the line you can hear the call but he uh
00:16:02
Speaker
Outside of that, that line has really stepped up their game and done some really good, really good work. Yeah. Well, especially, I mean, those places, yeah, those places used to happen. The ones of someone coming through those used to happen every three or four plays felt like I really on in the season. So, I mean, we're, we're down and we're in a lot better place.
00:16:24
Speaker
than we were before, I think, as far as. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, they look like more of a unit. There's still certainly a little bit of room for improvement. However, I mean, the run game is so good. And they're passing, the pass blocking is just getting better. So I mean, when you do that, it makes the game a little bit easier.
00:16:47
Speaker
Yeah, for everyone though. I still had some issues with some of the play calling, like some of the weird screens that we would do.
Game Critiques and Missed Opportunities
00:16:54
Speaker
I was like, these don't work.
00:16:57
Speaker
Not for us. Not for us. Yeah. Which I don't know what it is. Change position of the ball on the field for some reason. If you want to do that, if you're like, hey, we'll take a two, three yard loss, if we're able to move it over to the left side of the field, you can completely open up the right side and allow him on the next play to sort of like expand.
00:17:19
Speaker
Sure, that might make sense, but that's giving gets you way too much. I was gonna say I don't think gets he's thinking that far ahead Yeah, it's kind of like sacrificing a pawn in order to right to move up and in position and yeah But I just don't think he's playing chess. No, he's not playing chess. I think he's playing Chinese checkers He thinks he's playing 4d chess no, this motherfucker's playing tic-tac-toe, bro
00:17:49
Speaker
Yeah, it doesn't work for us which I mean because it worked for the Falcons They had a screen like that worked and ended up in a touchdown So and I've seen other teams to like to use the screen So yeah, I don't know what it is. I mean, maybe it's just The way he schemes it up or something. I don't know. Maybe they're just not coaching it right or Yeah, he refuses to go away from it Yeah, it's the rest the first half just fields was still looking good. I
00:18:16
Speaker
A little touchdown for Roshan Johnson. Right in the final minutes of like the second quarter going into the end of the first half, we had a little, an interception for TJ Edwards, which was pretty good. Pretty nice. Oh, yeah. We had a total, I think we had what, four interceptions this whole game?
00:18:35
Speaker
three of them coming in the second half so oh yeah and then the uh d alford so we we had a 50 yard kick by cairo santos 55 yards that came up short again i thought that shit was getting housed bro dude that shit was so they even said it like before it the announcers when they were like the commentators when they were talking about they were like what and they
00:18:55
Speaker
Falcons have a man backed by the goal post just in case this goes short and see if they can't run one back. And I was like, you motherfuckers like this. Yeah, you saw the wind. And it was just like, I was like, fuck, this is not happening. It is not. And I felt bad for Santos because you know, he was put in a position of flight. Yeah, that's it.
00:19:13
Speaker
It felt unfair to ask him to do that. 55 is his longest on a good day. Now granted, when he kicked that, it looked like he had a solid 12 yards left in it. The first time that he did it, but here in this weather with it being cold, the air's thinner, the ball travels differently. The impact is really weird off the foot.
00:19:40
Speaker
And then plus that wind coming in, it just sort of like you, you want, if you sort of like stop, it like slows down and just kind of like drops. I was like, fuck. Yeah. Dude. I mean, if he's, if that guy, if the Alfred's, you know, a half, a half, a half step faster, like he's gone, man. Oh, dude. I think he wasn't asked to, I think that's probably the problem. He probably wasn't ready. He was like, Oh shit. Like his stride, his stride rate started slowing down. Yeah.
00:20:10
Speaker
they're able to catch them. Like it wasn't. And I was like, Ooh, yeah. Um, that would have, uh, that would have set the tone for them. I think in the second.
00:20:24
Speaker
Uh, so yeah, I mean that was, that closed out the first half and then they went to the second half and, uh, just more of the same Justin Fields continued to have that chemistry and had those great passes to DJ Moore. Khalil Herbert was still running great. Um, he ended up getting a touchdown too early on in the second half, which was, um, I don't know if you, I'm sure it was part of the play, but it looked like he kind of goes to run in one side, makes a, makes a quick cut.
00:20:48
Speaker
runs the other side, runs to the left and gets in. His ability to maneuver and his patience with it was... He's looking back to normal again, I think. He is. He is absolutely nuts. That's fun. Which, yeah, whether that was health or whether just him knocking off the little bit of rust that had come up, I don't know, but either way, it's good to see that he's back to form. It was nice to see them not necessarily let up on the gas coming into the second half. Yeah, it didn't look like they kind of were relaxed in the second half, looked like they kept punching and...
00:21:18
Speaker
Yeah, there were a couple of drives where it was kind of like Iffy, but yeah, but the play calling wasn't as terrible like yeah, it seemed like it was more on drop passes or more on like weird shit like that than it was on them I still have an issue with going out of the gun on a short yardage like I Do not get it. Does anyone else do that? Like is that a thing? Like I feel like it's an old-school thing from back when it was like
00:21:47
Speaker
Oh, they're going to they're going to chuck it over the top, you know, but when you're in the red zone at the one yard line, like.
00:21:54
Speaker
Just stop going out of the fucking gun. We were doing a sort of tush push at the beginning of the middle of the season, and we stopped doing it. That's the old eye style, the power eye formation. It's so funny, people complaining about that and talking about banning it or whatever. I'm like, you know that's not a new move. That's literally one of the oldest types of play in football. It's just that babe.
00:22:21
Speaker
And she's like, you guys are dumb. Yeah. But we've kind of got, it was working for us a few times that we did it, but I just haven't seen us try it again ever since then. Like middle of the season.
00:22:39
Speaker
Almost fields to Scott for the almost touchdown. That's exactly what I was talking about. If he gets those feet down, man, that's it. That's six. Like he, but he just, that's the other thing. Like the defender didn't even push him. That was literally just him not getting the toe down, you know, and, uh, and, and he had another one like that on the sideline at one point where, yeah, I mean, it was dead to rights. Just him.
00:23:02
Speaker
Yeah, he wasn't wide open. It was a tight pass, but it was exactly what he needed to be. He didn't need to worry about the defender. It was beautiful and just dropped it. And I was like, all right, man, all right. What can you do? What can you do to these younger guys?
00:23:16
Speaker
flip side the defense also had like three there were three other passes that were in the hands of defenders literally like yeah a couple like tip ones are like yeah right there that the admins had one that was right here and it just went right through his hands it was like he couldn't close his hands or maybe his hands are so big that when they are closed like he still has enough room for the football
00:23:39
Speaker
Yeah, like you got to create the vagina with your hand instead Do some hand kegels, you know Bears finally got a roughing the passer call. Unfortunately, it was called on the defense That kept although I will say at least we got a roughing the passer call. Yeah, we know they are the refs are able to call it like
00:24:08
Speaker
Well, also, we've had the issue early in the season with the front line just not being aggressive enough ever. Oh, I see what you're saying. We're getting to the quarterback at least now. Hey, we're getting to the quarterback and actually taking a fucking hit. Good. Yeah, good. That's been proven, obviously. You can look through. The defense has just been outstanding, especially since we picked up sweat. They were already trending in the right direction before we got them, and then once we got them, it just elevated it exponentially. It was fantastic.
00:24:37
Speaker
He had justifiably should be like that. There is no argument for him to not be in the Pro Bowl. Yeah, he earned it this year for sure.
Defensive Strength and Fan Reactions
00:24:48
Speaker
Yeah, especially like you said showing that he's been a force multiplier, not just someone who's so long for the ride. And really elevated those around him as well. His play and his play style has elevated those around him and that's a difference maker right there. Yeah.
00:25:04
Speaker
Yeah, you were saying Justin Houdini. We saw some classic Justin Fields magic fuckery going on where it looks like he's pretty much sacked and dead to rights and then somehow just spins and shakes out of it and then ends up with like what 15 yard gain for the first time. That's just always fun to watch, always fun to see.
00:25:26
Speaker
He should be like contacts made six yards behind the line of scrimmage and somehow he ends up with an eight yard gain and you're like, I don't know. It's like, you know, no, no, no, throw the ball. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay. Get rid of it. Get rid of it. Wait, this actually worked out. Um, yeah, a few, uh, like we said, uh, three more, there was a few more picks in that second half, three of them. Uh, we got one from, uh, another one from Tyreek Stevens.
00:25:54
Speaker
Well, his first one was in like the third quarter. And then he had another one later on in the second half, and then one more. We had another one by Collier Gordon. So I really thought that the interceptions and turnovers were going to slow down. It seemed like, I don't know, just it didn't seem like, not that we weren't going to have any, but I just didn't think we're going to continue to have as many as we've been. But it really is just not a six games.
00:26:18
Speaker
Yeah, the the turnover rate is it's been not sane and shows no signs of slowing down with these last couple games in the season Granted and some of that has to do with the quarterbacks. We were playing but yes, however Again, their ability and their and and their instincts are finally like they're allowed to follow their instincts. They're not like having to play sort of like a classic nope learn the defense scheme first type, you know where they're super strict it's more like
00:26:48
Speaker
now it's more general general guidelines that they're supposed to be following so and being able to take man yeah i mean they again they had the potential literally ball in hand three other occasions yeah so that could have been a very very different like even worse game so um
00:27:13
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You see, you see, I think you run in the bar. Heineken got the legs moving, brother. I was, I was, I think everyone was caught off guard by that. I think, I honestly think that the defense was like, hold up, like almost stutter stabbed.
00:27:34
Speaker
And I feel like everyone it was offensive defense I feel like even like people on the sidelines you saw like the stands the fans even the fans weren't upset about it Yeah Yeah, pretty much I mean this we kind of cruise to a win and not in the we took the foot off the
00:27:55
Speaker
off the gas here in the second half, but it was more just like we just kept chipping away out of it, kept increasing the lead. We went in with lead and just didn't let up. And so just more interceptions, more, I mean, Khalil Herbert just again, like continued to have great runs. Tyler Gorton with that great interception. Fucking love when he's doing that shit out there. Yeah, we love to see it.
00:28:15
Speaker
Love to see it. Um, yeah, a little shout out to Mercedes Lewis because he's been the key piece a surprisingly key piece to this offense like I think with his blocking like Honestly, I know he's getting up there. I hope they keep him for another year. Yeah, the leadership piece of it. He's yeah the the humility piece of it just sort of like being that that sort of that game changer that on I think
00:28:40
Speaker
Unappreciated game changer for sure. So, um, man. Yeah, that's it. I think it's under, you really can't overvalue having a better, having a veteran like that. You have no idea as alignment. Like that's what you go for. Can I, can I put this man on his ass and keep him there? Like that's, you know, like, um,
00:29:03
Speaker
And, and for a tight end to do that, it's sort of, it's not unheard of. It's just, it's that much more impressive. They're, they're fewer and far between for them. Cause that's not what they trained for. That's not what their purpose is usually. So yeah, that's not the game. This man is going out there just like, they, I'm like, oh my God, he's what 39, 38, 39 years old. Yeah.
00:29:25
Speaker
I'm like this dude's out there like putting putting young boys in their place Yeah, he's like fucking daddy's home, baby I love and then
00:29:42
Speaker
I think that that style and that sort of mean nothing says Chicago football better to me, you know, he embodies that play style and I love it. Speaking of Chicago football, Justin Fields lowering that shoulder baby like to get that first down. Yeah, man. I'm telling you, that's classic.
00:30:04
Speaker
I love it. Again, I said that he's making better choices, more economical choices when it comes to when he runs, how does he run, right? He's not always doing this anymore. Like he's learning. He's learning to try to keep longevity, I think. Put yourself in less dangerous positions, but also understanding that with the position that he is in as a leader of this team and fighting for, if not to keep his job at the Chicago Bears.
00:30:31
Speaker
for a starting position somewhere else. He's out there just playing his game and to be able to just recognize, nope, I got it. Hey, we're in this part of the game.
00:30:42
Speaker
I could take this easy route and it becomes a fourth down. Um, or I can lower my shoulder and drive the fuck through this and make a difference. Even though we've got a lead, we're going to keep a lead, you know? And so to me, and I felt, I felt I was hyped from that and you could see that the people around him were hyped from that. The stands were hyped from it. So it was, it was good. Yeah. I'm glad to see that those kinds of runs are fewer and far between, but I think it's still great that he still want to do that. He's still.
00:31:10
Speaker
And, uh, I think, yeah, like you're saying, it just sets the tone for the rest of the team and for the rest of, I think for the field and the game in general. Um, I think we can't go without mentioning either. It was, uh, I was tearing up and getting hyped about, um, seeing those, seeing those, we want fields chance at soldier field. That was like, not just the chains, but the signs that were out there, the fields more 24. Yeah, dude. It's just so.
00:31:36
Speaker
Good. I know that he's an avid listener of the podcast. I know that I sincerely hope that he takes these words to heart when I say thank you so much for anything that you've done, no matter how this goes down, whether you're with us or not. I'm sorry that we drafted you in the first place, not for us, but for you. You did not deserve that, but you've done nothing but rise to this fucking occasion.
00:32:01
Speaker
Um, and and honestly with from what our perspective I would I think is without much support internally and um, uh, I seeing that ex support come externally was just awesome. It was great. And yeah, he deserved that man. He deserved that and I was so happy to see that like and then hearing him talk about it too, just like not complaining but full on take that moment to be like
00:32:27
Speaker
You know, the fans have been, have been great to me since I came here. Like I love being in Chicago Bear. Like I'm gonna remember this for the rest of my life. And it's just like, I'm glad to be able to have that moment. Like it's the least we could do for him. And it was, like I said, truly I was tearing up just seeing like him getting that. Cause I think no one else really deserves it more than he does. Snowy game in Chicago, possibly the last game at Soldier Field. His last, yeah. Known, not his, possibly the last game at Soldier Field.
Bears' Future and Stadium Speculations
00:32:52
Speaker
All right. With the whole, cause we might be moving.
00:32:56
Speaker
We need more information on what's going on with that. Because it seems all really murky. It does. For anyone who doesn't know, they're talking about not playing at Soldier Field anymore and moving. I think the talk was they were going to move to Arlington, but I think that all fell through. And so now it's all still up in the air. It's like, what the fuck is going on and where the Bears are going to play in the future? Because I think the contract's up next year, isn't it? Or something like soon. I mean, that was why we brought in
00:33:23
Speaker
uh uh fuck what's his nuts oh boy up above above poles what's his name thank you yep that's the whole reason we brought him in right specifically he was brought in originally to deal with that to deal with the new construction and structure of um
00:33:43
Speaker
a new arena basically, a new stadium. And he was not brought in for like the personnel side. He was not brought in for like the issues that we were having in the beginning of the season with the coaching staff and all of that. And so all of a sudden he sort of had to like put things on pause and actually like take an active leadership role at the personnel level, which was not, I mean, with the title he was supposed to obviously
00:34:10
Speaker
Yeah, a little bit but not like the primary purpose of him was originally to help with the establishment and development of the new stadium and Yeah, just a lot of things seem to have sort of Fallen by the wayside or kind of like I haven't heard many updates about it. There's yeah, that's what I'm saying There's nothing there's no talk. There's no and I think a lot of the talk unfortunately is the whole
00:34:37
Speaker
the quarterback situation and the draft situation, you know, I think that's obviously going to take a big precedent, but I feel like, God damn, it's fucking Soldier Field, like it deserves the respect. I'm like, he puts a fucking respect on that name when it comes out your mouth, you know? Yeah, it's historic. The thought of not seeing the Chicago Bears play in Soldier Field is just, it's weird to me. It's a weird taste. I don't know. I don't know how I
00:35:06
Speaker
Yeah, it's hard to know how to feel about it, especially since we don't know where it's gonna end up Like that's I think that's half of it is like alright How do I should I feel about this half of how you should feel about it? It's like where is it gonna end up anyway? So like because if it ends up in like not that it would but like Naperville or some shit. I'm pissed. I'm pissed, bro
00:35:32
Speaker
I remember a while ago when this conversation was kind of front and center, some people were saying they should move back to Staley, become the Staley Bears again. Do you have any more in the game?
00:35:47
Speaker
On the game itself, no, I mean, it was if this was in fact, the last game in Soldier Field, it was a fun one. It was a snow in Chicago watching watching a team dominate both phases of offense and both sides of the ball winning, you know, winning in the trenches on both sides of the ball, but also just like forcing bad decisions and from the opponent, particularly it just
00:36:16
Speaker
It was great. It was good. Football was good. Football to watch. And, um, yeah. Yeah. This one, we looked like a, like a solid team on this one, which is, uh, not something that we've been able to say all season. So. Or I should not like all season, but like we haven't been able to say it all the time this season. All right. It's become more and more consistent towards the back half of the season. Yeah. It's gotten, when fields got came, started coming back.
00:36:42
Speaker
Still wasn't fully healthy and we saw that in the execution of some things But we also saw him making better decisions in past playing throughout that. I honestly feel like I've seen so much progression from him this season Again in a system that I argue was not designed for him almost at any point along the line. Yeah, and in his favor at least and
00:37:10
Speaker
But with surrounded by playmakers who are like, I'm, I'm going to do anything. I can't help you. Oh, which is just fucking great. Yeah. Great. Yeah. This team is really cool. I surround them. Well, I think the comments from more about like, you know, we've said it before where he said it before, you know, he was asking him the second time was even more like, like there's, you asked me this already. Yeah. I don't know why we're having this conversation. Like he is the dude.
00:37:38
Speaker
There is no one in that draft that's better than him. Yeah, like they're okay. They're good. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think the first time you could argue that he was like, all right, like you can, maybe he's like, maybe he's just kind of saying what he has to blah, blah, blah. This one, there's no doubt. Like he was like full-throated. Like I want, if I'm going to be here, I want Justin Fields here. He is my quarterback. Like, and there was no, like, you know, there's no two ways about it. Yeah.
00:38:05
Speaker
So also I didn't know that him and Marvin Harrison Jr. Ran track together. There's a whole that's why I didn't know either until early this week that there's this whole like connection between fields and more and and Marvin Harrison and stuff like which I'm like
00:38:18
Speaker
How has this not been a bigger topic of conversation? I
Player Connections and Historical Performance
00:38:23
Speaker
think it's pretty nuts, especially seeing that this feels and more connection is finally becoming what we thought it was going to be at the beginning of the season. You throw another guy there in the mix where they have a trio, when they're all fucking buddies and pals. Could you imagine if Mike McDaniel was the head coach for those three?
00:38:41
Speaker
Do you know how much fun it would have with that? Oh man, dude. You know what I mean? That'd be a blast. And it would be... I feel like that would just be fucking awesome. Yeah. At that point, you know where else they would look really good? Fucking Pittsburgh. I think Mike Tomlin could do a lot of damage with those three. Yeah. But fuck, man. That's just not happening, you know? Yeah. And I just...
00:39:12
Speaker
Where do you want to go with this conversation? Because, I mean, obviously, do you want to move on? Because I was kind of thinking, I shared with you earlier this week about, I don't know if you saw it, where there was a Bears insider that basically confirmed that polls did not have the final say in Eberfluis.
00:39:32
Speaker
I did not actually get to watch that. Explain that more. Is that it? No, that's pretty much it. That's pretty much it. She like, I mean, then I'm obviously, I'm paraphrasing here, I don't have the direct quote, but it was Courtney Cronin and she was on some podcast or something and was basically saying, was said and basically said that
00:39:53
Speaker
polls didn't have the final word that it was, um, it was people above him that had the final say in, Oh, maybe we should elaborate on that though. So news did come out that Eber Flus will be with the organization next year. Like that was all but confirmed. When was that? We have not announced that. Uh, there were articles that were, that have been coming out over the last week leading into the game that he has, that he's basically
00:40:25
Speaker
here for another season. Really? I. I will find a couple of. I was going to say I've missed those because I. Isaac can. Isaac, I think you can confirm that as well. He's back. I think he heard you. Isaac, Isaac, Isaac. Hey, so. Yeah, Bears head coach, Matt Eberfluis is expected to return to the team in twenty twenty four per rap sheet reported on NFL Network.
00:40:52
Speaker
Thank God. Get the fuck out of here via in Rappaport in Rappaport, who I also feel like, yeah, really is a good insider. Yeah, I missed all that. I I don't disagree with the turnaround and the same. I mean, like when you look at it, but. I think the handling of fields has been fucking awful.
00:41:22
Speaker
I think that the play calling on the offensive coordinator has been horrendous. Obviously not terrible enough for us to have like a own 16 record.
00:41:39
Speaker
Again, I don't I cannot give him a ton of credit just because his game management has been like not great. It's been shit. Questionable. It is not like not great is an understatement. Like, you know, what's not great. Let me tell you a few different things that are not great. Plain M&Ms not great.
00:42:02
Speaker
Are pretty great No, they're not great. Yeah, those are basic. Those are same thing with like a pretty Hershey bar. Let's Play Hershey bar sucks sucks. No, you throw that shit on a s'mores. I worth it's fucking epic. That's like astronomically Yeah, that's not on his own though. That's in combination this like that that is
00:42:27
Speaker
mid that's that's okay like I can eat it if I need to like if that's available if that's if that's it right um uh uh olive garden spaghetti sauce like
00:42:40
Speaker
mid all garden is kind of mid in general though exactly uh and like so then but but what kind of midwesterners are you talking about olive garden being big one thing that is not one thing that is certainly not mid is going to be gatsy's play calling this fucking season that was
00:43:01
Speaker
that's just bad it is bad there's nothing okay it is bad yeah it is down here like oh it is bad but that's what i was that's what i was saying that's what i was saying in the chat is that like with another off season this can be this will be like a top five defense so i mean you can't deny that absolutely like with an extra pass russia and shit like that like they're cooking i just
00:43:28
Speaker
But then on the flip side, I don't think that he's proven that he can be a true. Head coach leader, a true head coach. He's a great defensive coordinator at this point. Yeah. But even with having a different than being a head coach. Yeah. Cause if we, if we're going to ride this train and if we're going to give him like, okay, like if we, even if we do end up with, with the top five defense, then I feel like it's just our ceiling is just going to be to be where we were at with lovey.
00:43:55
Speaker
where we're just going to have like that ceiling of like great defense, never get it together in offense, and then just kind of ride out like, you know.
00:44:03
Speaker
We're playing M&Ms for a few years until we fucking reset the whole shit. We also had, not only do we have a great defense, but we also had a great special teams that actually produced points. That's very different. That's what I'm saying. That's at its best, I feel like. At our best, it's going to be the ceiling. Our ceiling's going to be even lower with the overflows. Great defense is what we can get to.
00:44:27
Speaker
But I don't think that the offense is going to be there if you keep gets as the coordinator. Now, especially when you see other people like full on turning their teams around. Exactly. And like holistically, both sides of the ball, the Colts, the Texans, Detroit, Green Bay, even with the youngest roster in the fucking league for a spot in the playoffs.
00:44:53
Speaker
Minus their defensive coordinator. Yeah, no, get that motherfucker. I'm talking about Matt LaFleur strictly. Oh, man. So, I don't know. Pro bowlers. For me, I understood. No pro bowlers though, you said? No pro bowlers. Yeah, no pro bowlers for the Packers. When was the last time that happened?
00:45:16
Speaker
I mean, historically speaking, you still had game changers. Not game makers or play makers, game changers.
00:45:34
Speaker
Which is just showing how absurd this year is compared to all the other ones with I don't even know if the 90s would make it because i'm pretty sure regi white was basically like every fucking year Yeah, he joined in 92 or some shit. Was it 91? I was thinking one was the last year. Okay, so and so he broke that I'm assuming oh five oh five oh five was the last year they went without Yeah, I mean that's still almost 20 years jesus
00:46:02
Speaker
Yeah, and oh five had none oh six. They had driver and campman Aaron campman. That's a deep cut right there. Wow So anyways just but yeah, just wrap this I don't think that he's proven as a as an organizational head coach Um, look at look at the issues that we saw with the coaching staff in the in the beginning Yeah, that that's a fucking issue. Look at the
00:46:29
Speaker
And one that can be directly related to him. That's not down to anyone else. Those are choices you made. Those are people you hired. And this is my other issue. I think that really hits me that I cannot let go of this tiny little grudge is when he openly said, I don't see any issue with the play calling. After the game where like, what, 62% of Earth passes were behind the line of scrimmage or whatever the fuck. I had like outrageous amount that it was. And I was like,
00:46:56
Speaker
Are you what are you watching? What game are you watching? What the fuck are you watching? How fucking dare you come out here and stand behind this fucking fool like Like you don't have to throw him under the bus in front of the media. Like I don't have to open the trays But you also don't have exactly like you don't have to take a hard stance either way You can absolutely indicate that hey, we're gonna have some things worked some things didn't we're gonna go ahead and
00:47:21
Speaker
Make some make whatever makes some adjustments. Yeah, that like boom done. Give me that like fucking like hard dick stance that he took I was like fuck one cuz that was too that wasn't after just like a bad offensive play calling game That was after a bad defensive calling game too. Like so it was like it wasn't it wasn't him just standing behind get see that was him being like no fuck you I know what I'm doing like after it's like very plain like you don't But yeah, I'm with you. I don't know that's crazy to me. I
00:47:52
Speaker
I I wouldn't I wouldn't and I would have thought I mean even if we ended up going with him again I didn't think that the news would come out this early before the season's even over um that we were gonna keep him that's crazy I I personally can't believe I missed that if we can't beat Green Bay and keep them out of the playoffs I think you should be fucking gone that's like a good measuring stick I do think this is gonna be a really good measuring stick that's we're talking about one of the greatest rivalries in all of sports entertainment and
00:48:22
Speaker
There is something to this to be a Chicago Bears fan. After the fucking seasons that you have put us through, you want to keep another year. You sure shit better fucking earn it. Like we might go down, but we're going to go down fucking swinging and like in Lambo in Lambo. That's the other thing. If you can go into Green Bay and take it away from them like a team that is arguably on the upswing. Arguably. Yeah, arguably of the upswing.
00:48:52
Speaker
You could also on the flip side, argue the fact that your defense is total bullshit. So this is absolutely arguable. Arguably. But I'm saying like our offense has been on an upswing for about.
00:49:10
Speaker
since like week 11 and they've had blips but now with aaron jones back in an actual running game they've put up 30 plus points back to back exactly and that's what that's what the often you go back and how many defense point defense how many points has the defense given up like thus the arguably they're on an upswing not who are they putting those who are they putting those points up on too though no it doesn't matter points or points they fucking want it doesn't matter like you go through i the same the same way that are you saying the vikings have a good defense
00:49:38
Speaker
Are you saying they don't? Didn't they just have a shit game? They've been on a really bad trend these past like three games. Yeah, but there's still a top 10 defense inefficiency. They don't have the personnel, but Brian Flores has had them playing their ass off.
00:49:55
Speaker
He also brings, he brings the heat regularly. So anyway, he puts them in good positions. No, it's not. We're getting sidetracked here. And you're also just looking at the Vikings. Again, that's why I say it doesn't fucking matter who it was against. The same reason that I say like, yeah, we played not great teams coming into the back end as well. When you look at our defense, having 18 takeaways or 18 picks alone, right? Not just force fumble, not, not including force fumbles. It was 18 picks or 18 runovers, you know.
00:50:21
Speaker
Oh, is it turnover? I thought it was 18 take, uh, interceptions. There's 18 takeovers total. Okay. So, so that does include those foam. Um, so, but like, again, it doesn't fucking matter what matters are the stats. Did we win or lose? Simple as that. Like, so here you look at the Packers. Yeah. Again.
00:50:41
Speaker
arguably on the upswing because the biggest issue for them is they have a gaping wound on the defensive side of the ball. I mean, like it is that you cannot go against that. Like that is absolutely what's happening right now. It's not that they don't have talent. It's that their defensive coordinator is fucking trash.
00:51:02
Speaker
Huh passive. Yeah, it's a lot of like trying to keep shit in front of you and you know play the play the death by a thousand cuts game and then Yeah, it's been he's been trying to the big Fangio defense is the quarters, right? Keep everything in front of you But he's been going to cover one and cover three more than anything this year and I'm like you can't just fucking switch shit up, dude You gotta like
00:51:30
Speaker
So against against minnesota, I guess i'll hold it till then but yeah, let's just I mean we can go into it But let's yeah, let's just wrap up here. We're just yeah, we'll just say we'll call it here It's crazy that we're keep that it's been confirmed this early before the packers games even happened Um that we're I think that we're keeping that it's already being like, oh we're gonna keep maddie befuse. Uh, guess you no doubt need to be gone this past week
00:51:54
Speaker
and one. Right. If these games had been flip-flopped, it would make sense to me if they were like, okay, we're gonna keep it. And we pulled off the win. But that is such a good measurement. Metric. Also, they can always walk it back. I mean, if they haven't formally announced it. I don't know. Anyway, we'll just wrap that up. So what's happening? Good prank, guys. JK, JK, JK, JK, JK. That would be a good prank. Say it's a prank, bro. Please say it's a prank. I think he needs to be gone. I think gets needs to be gone. We'll just
00:52:24
Speaker
Anybody else got anything else on the Bears? No? All right. So. I mean, for later. For later. Sure. Well, yeah, because we have the preview later on. All right. Let's move into the Everyone's Favorite Sub, Everyone's Favorite Topic, Everyone's Favorite Segment. That's the word I was looking for, segment. The NFC North vibe check with Isaac Urgin. Isaac taking the reins back this week. He had some issues with.
00:52:52
Speaker
with our, our analysis last week, anal seepage. What's that? Anal seepage. That was, was keeping you off the board. Me? Is that what, is that why you weren't available last week? That was the issue, right? The severe anal seepage, right? Yeah. And the hemorrhoids. I couldn't sit down. Well, the hemorrhoids, that's, I mean, all Packers fans have those. It's like a given, right? Um, anyway.
00:53:19
Speaker
You want to start with Green Bay? I mean, we were already on that topic. I feel like we might as well keep rolling. Let's get that out real quick. Let's get that shit. Because once we get to Green Bay, then we can get to the Vikings, then we can switch to the preview. So it would be more of like a gradual. Cool. We can just hit the Lions, Cowboys real quick. All right. So the Detroit Lions went into Dallas and lost to the Cowboys 19 to 20 in what was a pretty fucking crazy game. You want to tell me about it, Isaac? Controversial game at the end. Very controversial at the end.
00:53:47
Speaker
I think a lot of it was Dan Campbell just sticking to his guns and just like beating his head against a brick wall until it breaks and instead bleeding profusely from his forehead. So in that case, he would only have to hit it like twice, right? Well, apparently three times didn't work. So it's at least four, I think he has to at least four before it breaks.
00:54:11
Speaker
But that was late in the game. The Detroit Lions, I mean, they got that run game going all game. That Monty and Gibbs, one-two punch continues to be fucking lethal, dude. Like, they really just...
00:54:23
Speaker
do what they want. CD lamb fucking went insane. 13 receptions, 227 yards and a touchdown. The Lions defense, they're secondary in general, is what's going to hold them back from being real contenders.
00:54:43
Speaker
Cause if you can sling it on them, I mean, even with last week, you guys were talking about Nick Mullins was fucking slinging it against the lions. And that was their game plan was attack the secondary, the deep secondary. And yeah, it fucking worked and it keeps working. 26 for 38, 345 yards.
00:55:04
Speaker
Two touchdowns, one interception. That's insane. They couldn't get the run game going at all. What a fall off from Tony Pollard. Everyone was expecting it to be like a top number one this year. Can't, can't, it buries the load, I guess. Can't, can't, can't be in that round. I don't know. I just, there's- Can't come up with the phrase to describe it. You can't. You can't. Just can't.
00:55:34
Speaker
Yeah, it was it was a good well-balanced game. I think it was just fun to watch Few few turnovers in there Gough still with the turnovers two interceptions One of those was a jump screen though That's true
00:55:49
Speaker
But he was pretty upset about this kind of he like he's like camera switched immediately to him and you just see him shaking his head being like It's it's interesting too because these are two like not like juggernaut teams But like top of NFC teams who have both kind of been on a downturn recently Hmm, so kind of watching them battle it out was fun to watch Yeah, it's like I think it's two teams that haven't cemented themselves as elite teams yet.
00:56:15
Speaker
Like they have shown that potential and they have shown that they could be, but I don't think they have consistently
Game Highlights and Key Decisions
00:56:18
Speaker
I
00:56:19
Speaker
taken over like and show and like, and, and made themselves made the presence on the cusp. There's something missing. Like, yeah. Who's going to unlock it first.
00:56:30
Speaker
I think we're Dallas. I just need a fucking consistent run game, especially in that West Coast offense that McCarthy has been implementing. Dak Prescott has done it. That would really open up the passing lanes for them a lot if they could be more consistent in the run game. A hundred percent. Because if you can't trust a run game, then you just drop everybody. I mean, if you're getting the stops with the front four, there's no reason to. It's just clogging up the passing lanes more than anything. And they don't have.
00:56:58
Speaker
They have a, they have a solid receiving core, but I think they even, they are sort of just slightly off from being elite, right? Where like not all of them are able to go out and completely alter passing lanes well enough when all, when the lanes are clogged, they can still make something out of it most of the time. Like that's not happening in their favor at the majority of the time when the passing lights are completely bogged down. So.
00:57:22
Speaker
The receiving group is very top-heavy. They have C.D. Lamb and Brandon Cooks, which are great. C.D. Lamb, I think, has cemented himself as like a top three wide receiver this year, at least. Like, he's been fucking insane. And then Brandon Cooks is just an insanely reliable role piece. After that, Jaylen Talbert, like, hasn't flashed much.
00:57:46
Speaker
Jake Ferguson has been really reliable and solid this year from the tight end spot. But yeah, that wide receiver group is pretty top heavy. And after the depth, it gets kind of gone after that. But yeah, I think the Packers, if they make the playoffs, will be playing one of these two teams. Which is better than going against the Niners. That's definitely for sure.
00:58:15
Speaker
Yeah, I did math real quick. 85% of the Cowboys' yards came from passing. They were only able to get 61 rushing yards, and that was 15% of their offense. Yeah, it doesn't surprise me. Their rushing has been terrible this year. Yeah, to say they have an inconsistent run game is an overstatement. Other than that, I think the only thing to talk about is just the drama at the end of the game, right? Yeah. You want to walk us through it?
00:58:45
Speaker
Yeah, they, um, they got touched on at the end and then they had the two point conversion and they, it was 19 to 20. They needed the two to win or the one tie. Yeah. And so they went, didn't Kim will be in him. He went for the two point and they hit a tackle for the reception with the pass. Yeah. But apparently he didn't report. So that's eligible as an eligible.
00:59:14
Speaker
as an as an eligible receiver. Yeah. Um, they're claiming they did. Referees are claiming they didn't. I don't know what else has come out other than that night. But there was a I know that there was video telling the tackle to go and register as voter with with the ref and um
00:59:37
Speaker
but i don't i don't know if there was anything after that if it actually like showed him going over to the right there is a clip of him walking over the ref and talking to him um which i also saw do you think he was just like which that's what everyone was like are you doing today everyone was like i wonder what in the world they could have been talking to him about
00:59:57
Speaker
So yeah, so they call that they call that two point back, right? And then yeah, they go for it again. There's a flag on the defense on this time, I think. Yeah. Gough throws an interception, I think, on that play. And then there's a flag on the defense. So then it gets called back again a second time. And then they go for it a third time. And then remind them already like the 10 by then. Yeah.
01:00:19
Speaker
I think so. Yeah. I think they're already all the way back up by the 10. And then Dan Campbell is just trying to keep the foot on the neck and it's just was not working. It wasn't, I don't know how you can expect to go for it that many times and still expect it to work out.
01:00:37
Speaker
Yeah. Golf gets into completion on that last one, I think. Which even if he had gotten the completion, I think that receiver was still like a good two or three yards back and would have had and already had a guy on him. So it just was not going to happen for that. Yeah. And so Lions lose it. Pretty crazy. Yeah. One point. It was a good game, though. Front to front to back, I think. Yeah. It felt like a playoff game. Yeah. I mean, which is and I really appreciated that.
01:01:08
Speaker
That's what I wanted from these two teams. And honestly, I don't have a problem with them going for it over and over. Like at this point, like even backed up, like, no, I don't have it. If he's going to if he's going for he's making big calls. We just said that there's something missing from these two teams to put them into that elite category. And so he's fighting for that precipice. He's fighting to get them over the edge.
01:01:36
Speaker
I don't know if it was more of a to like, no, we're going to stick with this because I know that we can do it. You need to know that we can do it. They've overcome a lot of adversity this season, right? Their trend the last half of the season between injuries and has been rough, right? With a couple of losses in there, they've got some okay wins, but not as
01:02:01
Speaker
they still look beatable in a couple of their wins. There was one solid win where it was like, oh fuck, that's what they should be. So no, in my mind, from a leadership position, from the way that he has managed this team, the changes he's made with this team, the effect that he's been able to have on this team over the last couple of years, he absolutely I think has earned the right in my book to make that call. And it didn't work. That's it. Own it. But ultimately, I think he was absolutely going out there and saying,
01:02:30
Speaker
No, we're not changing it. We're going for the win. And I'm willing to bet, I'm willing to bet that the team also was behind that. That's what I was wondering is how the team felt about it. I'm willing to bet that they were like, fuck this. Let's get it. Let's do it. Let's get it. And at that point, it's almost kind of like.
01:02:49
Speaker
As a parent with a child, like you want them to make their own mistakes sometimes. So like, Hey, this is how it played out, man. You made the bed. And now we got to live with it. Yeah. You know, so let's, let's stick with it. We're going to stick to our guns and see. So either, either way, whatever one of those happen or some amalgamation of those two situations, like, which I'm sure is probably somewhere closer to the truth. I'm okay with it.
01:03:12
Speaker
They're still in the playoffs. Like they still took the North. Yeah. This isn't going to knock them out of contention. Yeah. Yeah. But this affects seating though, because they have the same record. The two, three seat is fine. Like it doesn't fucking matter that when you're looking at the rest of the, of the, who you've got on the schedule, it doesn't matter. Like, would you rather have the Rams come into your home or the Seahawks?
01:03:37
Speaker
You'd rather pick the Seahawks. For me, it doesn't matter. Like, like both of them are not the Niners. So like, that's, that's the key. Like, uh, you're not the Niners. You're not a dying Eagles organization. You're not like, so I don't know. It's, uh, I feel like level wise too.
01:03:57
Speaker
I feel like the Seahawks and the Rams are in a similar position. I think it comes down to the, okay, we're going to do this, but we have to own whatever happens. If we follow the three seed, we follow the three fucking seed, and we're going to have to take it from there. I support the decision that they made, even though it didn't work, even though, yeah, analytics wouldn't say to keep going for it. No, not at all. But the heart.
01:04:24
Speaker
Yeah, again, that's where you have to come out. And that's the culture they're trying to set. You have to take data out of that position. Data should drive you up to a certain point. They've gotten to the point of the only thing that's going to push them over to that precipice into that elite category is some of these big game time wins against a huge team. And like I said, this felt like a playoff game. They needed to play it like a playoff game. In the playoffs, they're not going for one for a tie.
01:04:53
Speaker
like i just don't see them doing that well if there's anything missing from the lions it's not massive fucking balls so they can check out dan campbell's thing he's gonna live and die by the aggressiveness yeah good principles so i think uh any anybody got a head coach they had principles and like abided by them you know yeah like a strong something yeah a strong compass
01:05:21
Speaker
Uh, not even moral. It's just principles. I will live them and die by the aggression. Cool. Play it that way. Right? Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. I guarantee Dan Campbell never let off the fucking gas. Like that's. Yeah. Uh, any more on the Detroit lines and the Dallas Cowboys? I don't think so. I'm excited to see them both in the playoffs. Yeah. It'll be cool to see what the Lions can do. Yeah.
01:05:51
Speaker
Alright, so now I think we move on to the next NFC North game. We were blessed this week like we were last week in that one of the matchups was an NFC North matchup. So instead of having to cover three games, we can take out two birds with one stone. Green Bay Packers took on the Minnesota Vikings and thrashed them 33 to 10.
01:06:14
Speaker
pretty crazy game. Good, great game for Green Bay. One thing that stuck out to me right away was, I mean, Green Bay just dominated time and possession. It was like 33 to 27 or something crazy like that. Or 22, I mean, something nuts like that. I think even watching it too, it just felt like the Packers just kept getting opportunity after opportunity. Vikings just...
01:06:44
Speaker
Couldn't get anything going part of that. I think kid. Do you know what Isaac why they started that hall kid over Mullins this week? Um, I saw that and I was very curious I think he was trying to find the hot hand since it's been that's been the situation with the quarterbacks But also he's a rookie so they wanted to kind of evaluate him But they did not put him in a position to succeed at all. Yeah, he did a
01:07:09
Speaker
Did not do great. I think he went five for 10. Didn't have a second completion, like a second pass completion until the second quarter. And then they pulled them for Nick Mullins, who came in and started doing pretty well. But I think it was too little too late by that time.
01:07:27
Speaker
You want to talk about the game a little bit? Is there anything specific? This is your segment. I don't mean to take it over, so... Oh, no, no, you're good. Yeah, the Vikings went in with Jaren Hall and just tried to emulate the same thing that they did against the Lions. Pass it deep. Seven-step drawback. Long developing plays.
01:07:44
Speaker
And he's not built for that. He's not he's not a pocket passer like that. He's a mobile guy. He likes the bootlegs and shit like that. So immediately they just went in with a game plan for a different quarterback and just put him in it. And the Packers kind of sniffed it out right away. And Joe Barry, out of his element, started sending pressure and it worked. They blew up all the plays pretty fast and they just couldn't get anything going.
01:08:13
Speaker
There was 13 pass rushers that recorded a pass rush snap and 12 of them got pressures So like everyone was just super active blitzing this game I don't know if you guys talked about last week or not, but Jair Alexander was suspended last week
01:08:30
Speaker
Like some hand signal or something with the coin toss, right? I don't think he Went out to the coin toss because he's from Carolina or he's from Charlotte. So he went out for the coin toss and Said the wrong wording and so they almost had to kick it to the start and at halftime so they almost
01:08:56
Speaker
Fucked it up in that sense, especially how close that game was to that probably would have made a pretty big difference Um So he
01:09:10
Speaker
Well, he got suspended and then Matt LaFleur said it's never just one thing. So I think it's just been an accumulation of him just not playing good this year and just not said not holding up his standard is what they said. And so that's I mean, I think the coin toss might have just been the tipping point to
01:09:29
Speaker
just the last thing the straw that broke the camel's back yeah and um he's been back at practice this week and he looks dialed in i mean he's not he's usually like a pretty big troll and just always fucking around but he's just he's he looks like he's got his game face on so i mean sure i guess
01:09:51
Speaker
But you just need a little spank them behind That's I mean Yeah, matt leffler really wouldn't go into it. He said that whack. I'm a peepee That's matt leffler. Just said that him and jire went over it and that was about it. Yeah, he didn't really go into detail about it But I mean, yeah, if you're gonna hold your biggest stars accountable, I guess Yeah, do it. I mean that's good. Yeah
01:10:14
Speaker
The Packers offense Fucking which sorry, it's good to like, you don't want your head coach coming out and talking about that publicly anyway, so oh, yeah, no he was No, he was They kept trying to ask questions about it like the relationship between them and shit like that And he was like I'm here to talk about the Vikings like I don't want to talk about this right now Yeah, it's handled internally and there's nothing else to really talk about right now For sure for sure
01:10:41
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, Packers offense looked fucking phenomenal. Um, ever since Aaron Jones came back, they've put it back to back 30 point games, um, which I'll fucking take it. Cause he's kind of the oil that has moved the machine as of recently. Um, that was supposed to be the whole thing of this offense was the running game was going to be the juice for the primary force of the offense. Yeah.
01:11:10
Speaker
Yeah. And that has not been the case at all. So now it's been more relying on love and his strengths. And so now with his strengths, plus the running game, it's been just opening shit up left and right for the offense. Um, and yeah, the Vikings defense was ranked fifth in efficiency rating. So they had been solid and they had been super aggressive. Um,
01:11:38
Speaker
But yeah, love was just kind of picking them apart and
01:11:43
Speaker
within this offense, he just knows where all his solutions are at one time. Like he knows that if these two guys are covered, I have a guy right here sitting in a zone, I'm gonna hit this guy. And it's all like super quick. He was never, nothing came unexpected from the Vikings defense. He looked like he was just ready for the game, basically. He watched film, huh? Yeah, he looked like he was ready to take on the blitz and shit like that. And he knew the pressure was gonna be coming.
01:12:11
Speaker
And there's a lot of times where, yeah, he's just, he knows where it's almost like a floor general point guard for basketball. He just like knows where everybody is on the floor. And that's what it seems like. He knows where everyone's at. He knows, he sees when the defense reacts where, what's going to be open. And he's just, he, the understanding that he has of the offense is just really fun to watch right now. Um, especially as a first year starter, just him being able to.
01:12:38
Speaker
get the offense down and learn the system to that. To that strength has been fun to watch and just fun to see him pick up and work on week after week. Yeah, it seems like him like that lack of running game early on was kind of like created a situation that acted like a crucible for him and like
01:12:58
Speaker
in order to work out and burn out all those kinks and really like figure out, you know, and get comfortable in the field. And it seems like now, I mean, ever since, ever since that, you know, Kansas City game, they've just, or I think even before that, they've just been on, he's been on fire. Yeah, the Lions game. And then like you're saying, the Lions game was like the first.
01:13:15
Speaker
Yeah, erin joe's coming back. He's he's been back for a little bit, but he's now like effective for him Yeah, finally getting like 20 plus touches a game and shit like that. Yeah Yeah, it's not looking good for the rest of the nfc north It's just been fun especially with
01:13:35
Speaker
how we have the cheapest wide receiver room, cheapest tight end room in the entire league. And to be fourth in passing offense in like ninth and overall offense right now is just fucking insane just to. It's fucking annoying.
01:13:52
Speaker
This is supposed to be you guys is like down here and then like a couple of weeks ago, you know, or you're like, you know, like a month ago, you're just like, yeah, I don't know. I'll be happy if the Packers like, you know, just kind of figure out where Jordan Love is and get us some experience. And now you're like playoff team. It's just like, give me a fucking break. There is no God. Love his top three passing TDs in the entire league.
01:14:15
Speaker
Did you not know that before this season? There is a god, but he has a sick sense of humor. Oh, no. I know. I'm just... Oh, him you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah, it's... It's fun. It's fun having a team with no owner. Yeah. And just... Because with teams with owners, the owners like to get in and fuck shit up.
01:14:39
Speaker
And so having to have been the only team with no owner, I think pays dividends helps a little bit. Yeah, sure. Yeah. We're the first ranked offense in goal to go distances, uh, at 94.7%. And last year we were 32nd with 50%. So the red zone offense is just skyrocketed. I think it's just Matt LaFlore just dialing up.
01:15:04
Speaker
creative ass plays that's what he that's always been his thing is he's always been a super creative play caller um super creative designer and shit like that yeah so since you known him uh as long as you guys have been friends it's just like all you've it's all we talk about that's all you guys talk about
01:15:22
Speaker
I mean, we still have 41 million dead cap from the Rogers trade. So we're just kind of, we have our entire receiving group is $12 million. And that's it. And they're under contract for the next two years.
Team Strategy and Player Comebacks
01:15:43
Speaker
Cause it's all just, it's just a culmination of rookies and like two second year guys. Yeah.
01:15:50
Speaker
It's crazy to think the difference that like having a offensive coordinator who supports the offense and their play style, you know, when you look at total yardage and the Bears only 140 off from what Green Bay has done this season. And yet they've put up 30 passing touchdowns, like, you know, it's just.
01:16:13
Speaker
But it's efficiency, right? Like that's, it's a better use. Granted, it's only up three slots from where we like total, right? Where we're slotted. But still it's like, and that's totally yards per game. The only thing that saves us is our running game. We're second in the league and yards per game for that. So it's like.
01:16:32
Speaker
That's the one thing where we've been missing is the running game. Yeah. Well, and again, like you said, like with Jones being down, trust me, I'm familiar. There's a reason that I had to eventually just drop him from fantasy. Cause he, he was just taking up room like a guy and he was not.
01:16:48
Speaker
performing, even when he came back, which, I mean, we can argue the same thing for Herbert, right? We're finally saying over the last couple of weeks, he's looking more full form again, even though he's been back for longer than that. It just takes, again, they come back, they are not 100%. You know, at this point in the season, no one's 100%. But like, they're all operating at like 80, you know, 80 to 90. And it's like, well, they weren't even there yet. But they come back when they're at like 60, 65, 70, you know, to
01:17:13
Speaker
get a little reps in and make sure that they're like being able to handle some of the cuts and handle some of the live hits and yeah, so it's it's tough. It's tough. And they always they keep comparing him to Favre and Rogers and shit like that by the numbers and shit like that.
01:17:32
Speaker
And his numbers just are better, like more touchdowns, less interceptions than both of them. And Farve had Sterling sharp and Rogers had Donald driver, Greg Jennings, and he's working with incandenses scrubs. Yes, not scrubs. I'm not going to say, but that's what it is. It's just a bunch of like young guys. I was going to say, yeah, I mean, kind of, but cause like you say they have that shit. Yeah. When you look at that though, yeah. Yeah. They are the young guys. They just.
01:18:03
Speaker
Who's to say they're not going to be a Donald driver yet? You know what I mean? Like, who's to say that they're not going to be, you know? And so, Greg Jennings. And it's like, so, yeah, I think he's definitely got something there. And they're clicking. And that's the other thing is they have, they've taken the time. They knew that what the season was going to be with some of that, you know? And very clearly, they've made it that, like, they need the run game, though. This is very much a Dallas situation, right? If they have a run game, all of a sudden, like, that pass game is, like, next level. But as soon as that run game goes down,
01:18:32
Speaker
The struggles are for real. And so it's just being able to.
01:18:37
Speaker
Uh, to translate that or have like a reliable, you know, Dylan held his own, I think for, for what he is. I mean, that's what he is. He's a ground and pound for the carry guy. Um, so, you know, what, what you gonna do? Like, but you give Dylan 20 carries. He's not going to break a hundred yards. No, like Jones is. It's not his job. That's not, that's not, that's not what he's trained for. That's not his style of running. Dylan's not meant to get 20 carries.
01:19:05
Speaker
No, he's going to get like 10 at the goal line. Yeah. And make people like regret hitting them like. Yeah, I'm just looking through like totals for the season through 16 games and it's like the Bears are behind in categories against relative to the Packers when you look at like total yards by 140 total points by 15 total points. Like, you know, it's like we're like.
01:19:32
Speaker
Right there.
Speculations on Potential and Performance
01:19:34
Speaker
And then I imagine like, Oh man, what if fields hadn't gotten hurt? Like what could he have done in those four games, especially after the, like the back to back stuff that he was putting together and it just, you know, so if he hadn't missed those four games and had been able to, um,
01:19:51
Speaker
had that elevation in there that I think it would be closer I think there would have been a little bit closer even then like we're so very relatively close we're both mid I'm just like like over 16 weeks we're both very mid but one a little better mid than the others I mean Green Bay is
01:20:10
Speaker
Slightly elevated you're above Kansas City when it comes to total points scored this season Right above them. So that's why I mean No, yeah, they're so good I just compare like it's where they should be there they're struggling. What are you saying Isaac?
01:20:31
Speaker
Just watching this year and watching this pass catcher group just has me fucking excited for next year. And just having them... Especially with like Tucker Craft now how fucking good he looks compared to how he looked at the beginning of the season. He said even his own words was watching tape from like the first weeks makes him fucking sick to his stomach.
01:20:52
Speaker
Because he couldn't pass protect for shit run block for shit And now he's out there moving to neil hunter harrison smith and then also, you know Getting these 40 yard chunk plays and shit like that And then that's not even finally protecting protecting his testicles Yeah, finally looking out for the boys Not jumping over people. Um, that's not even I missed that though like honestly like
01:21:17
Speaker
I want him to get one. I really did. I was like, come on, man. I was gonna say, you want to get the highlight or get the shot to the nuts? No, get the highlight. Okay. Because again, he's going to take the shot. Go for it. Fucking go. Give him one. Come on. And that's, that's without Musgrave. I think with Musgrave being out, he's been able to take the number one role and thrive in it. And I think with Musgrave out there is going to be fucking insane. And.
01:21:47
Speaker
Yeah, the offense is just with how efficient it's been this year with the inconsistency with the injuries and see why being out so long and then the band coming back and just lighten shit up for Detroit and Kansas City and then going back out. It's if we can get a consistent run game and get like a middle of the pack defense, I'm fucking I'm hyped for this team as a whole. I mean, we're already kind of in it, but I feel like this is a good
01:22:18
Speaker
place to draw the official line. There's our number one in the intersection. What's up? Can I hit one more thing? Yeah, go for it. Just kidding. We're gonna move into the hackers finally had their first hundred yard receiver this game.
01:22:35
Speaker
And it was practice squad elevation, Bo Melton. Bo Melton. No film on him. And he got signed to the 53 men roster, rightfully so this week. But I think that just shows the continuity of everyone top to bottom knowing the fucking playbook in and out and just understanding the offense and just how this coaching staff is able to translate this shit to everybody. And.
01:23:03
Speaker
Have people on the practice squad that are just ready to go at all times And he fucking he last two games he's come and he's showed out and He earned himself a spot on the roster now, and I think he's gonna be around for a while And it's just fun to watch just guys that Were on the practice quad just coming up and torching the Vikings defense like that. It's it's exciting to watch and
01:23:28
Speaker
It doesn't look like a flash in the pan thing. He actually has like good tangibles as a wide receiver. So I think it's a good problem to have with a lot of receivers showing good flashes and shit like that. I think you can see it created space. You know, those are obviously the big ones. If you if you if you get got that after that, like the rest of the stuff is sort of like icing on cake.
01:23:52
Speaker
That's the one thing that has been very apparent with the route running and the wide receivers is they know how to attack zones and they know how to find open spaces and give love open looks and love helps them create after the catch as well. There's multiple plays in the Panthers game where
01:24:13
Speaker
Receivers are just sitting in the zones and there's a there's a defensive back closing in and then he'll throw it on the other side so he can Not get fucking killed by the defensive back, but then also go and make a play after the catch So It's it's fun to watch just the system run without an asshat at quarterback and Someone who actually understands the offense and wants to run the offense. Hmm. It's fun to watch
01:24:42
Speaker
Yeah. I was going to say that, too. It looks like, because it's not only that wide receiver, I think you can say that same thing about Jordan Love that these aren't just flashes that he's showing now. Like, this is bearing out to be consistent. Yeah, like consistent upward improvement. So with that, I think. The game is going to be fucking exciting. Yeah, dude. We'll draw the line here, the official boundary between the NFC North vibe check and the week 17 preview. Week, no, not week 17. Week 19. 18. 18.
01:25:13
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Sorry. Okay, cuz we're on episode 20 skipping around huh? Yeah, cuz I was thinking about what episode run and then I was trying to remember what yeah anyway week 18 talking about this shit since like the first episode
01:25:25
Speaker
talking about what you were like week 18 matchup and like how different teams are going to look. Yeah. And when we bounced back and forth, you know, so many times, you know, what's sad is I think that, that the barriers right now look like what we thought they would look like earlier in the season. Yeah. I was going to say earlier too. Like I think if, um, I think if we had looked the way we look right now, since the beginning of season, I don't think there'd be any questions or as much, uh, drama and controversy surrounding our leadership positions.
01:25:58
Speaker
But anyway, so the Chicago Bears are going into Lambeau Field this Sunday. What's the weather looking like? Do we have a weather outlook for that game?
01:26:07
Speaker
I don't know, but we got Romo and Nance on the call. So it's going to be a, it's going to be a classic. Yeah. Nice. Um, how are you guys feeling? Are you guys, I mean, Isaac, you're excited. I'm excited. Stein, you excited? I'm just fucking, yeah. 35. I'm excited, man. Yeah. I am excited. 35. I need 10 chance of precipitation. No, no, no. This snow would put this over the fucking, that'd be so amazing. Again, a fucking classic zero percent. So classic. Oh, we got time. We got time.
01:26:36
Speaker
We've got time for a little storm to move in or something, you know. I think we were saying earlier that this is going to be a really good litmus test, a really good metric, measuring stick, whatever word you want to use for Eberfluis and I think for the team in general.
Pre-game Excitement and Predictions
01:26:52
Speaker
I think it'll be good. Good for our defense. I think our secondary is going to get a nice test. I think it'll be interesting to see
01:26:58
Speaker
Jordan Love and the chemistry he's having with his receivers and the way they're clicking. It'd be interesting to see that go up against our secondary that has been in a pretty good rhythm these past few weeks. And against our defense as a whole too. What's that? Everyone's back from injury. Christian Watson is expected to play.
01:27:16
Speaker
Uh, jaden reed who got injured in the last game who was fucking phenomenal in that pickings game and it's just been an insane best Wide receiver rookie season for the packers of all time pretty much. Um He's back practicing dantavian wicks is practicing Musgrave is the only question mark right now. Yeah with that lacerated kidney
01:27:36
Speaker
Is there anything you can find on Tevin Jenkins? Because I was looking to see, like he's not questionable, he's not listed as anything, but I wasn't able to find any official word that he's like, back, back. So I'm not sure. I mean, I'm assuming that means he's going to be playing on Sunday. Because I think for the most part, the Bears are going to be healthy too. Obviously, unique and God grace is still going to be out. But I think other than that, like all of our key players that have been playing these past couple of weeks are all going to be around and playing.
01:28:09
Speaker
Usually they have the uh, where is that? Well, the injury report came out today for midweek. Yeah, he's not on it, but he wasn't on there. So I mean, I assume that means he's playing, right? Yeah. Um, that'll be big. Uh, that'll be really big. I think it'll be important to see if our offense can continue our, its rhythm as well against your guys's, I mean,
01:28:34
Speaker
passive defense passive yeah defense we have jayar back so maybe that'll do something any jayar on like any possibility for a jayar on more action or i hope so i think he was on him week one that'll be great um i think so fun to watch god the fucking game plan is different than like one our defense is passive and likes to stick to their zones and coverages so i
01:29:02
Speaker
It all depends on how joe berry is feeling and how aggressive he's feeling It also fully depends on how aggressive i'm getsy or if we're gonna start doing fucking screens left and right again So that's what i've seen i've seen a very mixed bag of like let's go take down the packers and shit like that and then More than like half are like
01:29:23
Speaker
It's like i'm not gonna get my hope up for the same fucking let down and i'm like Personally i'm trying to find a balance the spread right now. I'm running like right down the middle, you know I think the spread is packaged by three right now Yeah, which just means home field advantage. I mean so at that point it's a fucking coin flip um, however the predicted score if you go through like other things
01:29:49
Speaker
has green bay 27 chicago 16 17 um i could see that i think i could absolutely see that that puts it a little closer like to where we saw the first game so um
01:30:04
Speaker
I with how the defense is playing I think that that's going to be something it's going to be very interesting to see going up against Aaron Jones like I think that would be really good can we can we contain that um well that's the thing in week one the average yard
01:30:21
Speaker
The average yards before contact for the Packers was one yard. So like we couldn't get any movement up front So yeah, i'm hoping we can get movement this time But you know, we also weren't able to apply any type of pressure back Yeah, and we also were enabled like there were I mean we were rushing the front for the entire fucking game That was it and like uh, whereas now it's a very different defense um so I I think that that's where
01:30:50
Speaker
it'll be interesting. I want this to be a more aggressive game. I would love to feel I would love for this to feel like a playoff game, which I mean, technically kind of a playoff game for Green Bay, you know. So I would love to see this. What is the over under right now is gonna be like 40 something for two.
01:31:12
Speaker
44 44 there is higher than I thought although I will say I would love to see this coming down to like a 2930 game
01:31:21
Speaker
You know, and I think that that's very possible with both of these teams. The Bears, when they are on, have been, you know, scoring like 24 plus regularly when when the scheme seems to not be pulling off this random fucking like like eight, 25 percent screenplays. So.
01:31:46
Speaker
as long as we don't do that and we can create some pressure that's my big thing is can we make Jordan Love look uncomfortable in the pocket if we or even pressure him outside the pocket like if we can do that i want to see how he operates there a little bit more and i because i i don't know i think it'll be interesting um i also want to see a test for our defense because
01:32:10
Speaker
because people have argued like yes we are like are looking like a top a top eight defense right now we're a piece or two away from being a top five defense and like okay but also then everyone pulls that whole won't look who they've played I'm like
01:32:28
Speaker
Again doesn't matter When is when interceptions and interception turnovers turn over like doesn't fucking matter I think also looking back to like some of the teams that we went against that we lost That were written off as like shitty shitty teams at the beginning seasons ended up turning it around and not being as shitty as everyone thought they were
01:32:47
Speaker
Yeah, no, absolutely. So I think that one of the I'm looking forward to a real test from a true quarterback. Like this is this is a true like this is going to be a franchise quarterback, right? We haven't really faced that in a little bit, like consistently, not consistently with the different injuries that have taken place throughout.
01:33:08
Speaker
You know, when you go back and look at, we had the Falcons, we had the Cardinals, even in the Cardinals with Kyler Murray, we don't know if he's actually going to be there or not. We had the Browns. He'll be there. You think so? We had the Lions. The Lions. Good. We had the Lions with Goff. He'll be there still for a little bit.
01:33:31
Speaker
who knows how long that they're long long term for sure and then vikings lions panthers saints like chart you know the last one that we saw was the chargers and herbert wasn't he out for that game no no no he was in for that game he got hurt in the next year yeah
01:33:48
Speaker
When he broke his thumb so Or was it that they get yeah. So anyways, I mean like we haven't really faced A franchise quarterback since herbert basically so I want to see a true quarterback I want to see if our our defense truly stacks up against that real talent um And this is just a true offense like systematically. Yeah, exactly. This is like a classic like offensive system that works and um, uh
01:34:18
Speaker
And honestly, it's an offensive coordinator who truly positions his players to be successful.
01:34:25
Speaker
Um, I want to see how our defense responds to that. Um, with the ways that they've been playing, they've been playing great, but again, I want to, uh, this is going to be a true, a true testament to their strength. Like solidify their, um, their position and they're like, if they want to be legit defense, like are they, are they truly going to be a, a force to be reckoned with in the North for the foreseeable future? The same way that.
01:34:50
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I think you could look at this flip side with the Packers. I think no matter what the Packers offense is always going to be some type of force to be reckoned with. They're always going to be something you have to respect that you cannot just look by ever. And so, but I love this. I want the offense defense. I want the matchup. Yeah. This is just a good matchup and the good, it's going to be good competition on both sides of the ball. Yeah.
01:35:13
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It'll be fun to see our receiving corps out there. I would love to see Scott sort of make up. Get it together. And I hope Fields goes out and still does the same thing. I'm going to call it. I think I'm going to take Green Bay.
01:35:32
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on the win. I think that it's going to be like a 33 30. So I'm going over for sure. But I think that this could be a good scoring game based on the weather. You know, it's it's 35 degrees with no snow, no precipitation. Yeah, I think this is what this is what Chicago Bears and Green Bay Packer football is about. So. It's going to be a good fucking rivalry game.
01:36:00
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And it sounds like to bet that the. 3330 might be high only because I don't know if picks wise, I mean, the pack has seven picks on the season.
01:36:11
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Pack's pack has not been creating turnovers. I just feel like to Our defense our defense giving up 30. Yeah, I feel like that's that's where I'm hesitant. I like I don't know about 33 is what I said, right? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think it's gonna be like 20 to 14 20 to 17 type shit Like a one score game. Yeah. Yeah with the Packers getting above 20. I don't know I want it to be a brawl. That'd be sick. I kind of want it a little shootout
01:36:41
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Shoot out at Lambo if we got it if we got a solid 2019 game like the like the Detroit Dallas game That'd be dopest shit, too. Yeah All in all I'm looking at this is our playoff game, you know, because these are Super Bowl
01:37:01
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Yeah Yeah, it's uh, I like I said i'm good It's just the range of outcome is insane. Like I don't know. Yeah, it really is Hard to truly go it could go all over the place because the thing like historically have to take into consideration This is different like analytics does not always apply in situations like this. Yeah, so
01:37:24
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Yeah, I'm trying to go right down the middle where it's like I could see, I would hope, I'm hoping that the Bears can pull it off. But it's just such a coin toss and then just with our coaching and then with just the way it's been where it just seems like it doesn't, they just packers always find a way against us, like they just always do it. It's like I'm ready for disappointment. Yeah, it doesn't bear out well for us historically, or at least recently.
01:37:55
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Yeah, anything else on the game, guys? I'm excited. I think it's going to be fun. I can't wait to watch it. Maybe we should try it. I don't know if you guys have the time, but maybe try and hop in the call together and watch it. But if not, at the very least, I'm excited to talk about it after two. Any more? It's a 325 game.
01:38:14
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01:39:31
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I hope you're excited, Bears fans. Anyone who's listening, it's going to be a great day for football. It's going to be a great game. Hopefully it can be fun. We'll see you next week. It should be like early in the week. We'll see how it goes. Yeah, have a good rest of your week. Thank you, as always, for listening. Great review. Share the podcast. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. We'll see you next week. And until then, chin up and bear down. Deuces.