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Episode 21: The Chicago Bears vs the Green Bay Packers
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The boys reflect on a disappointing end to the season, while venting some frustrations and speculating on what the future could hold for the Chicago Bears and several members of the organization. Chin up and Bear down!
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Transcript
Introduction and Hosts
00:00:01
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Bear Claw podcast. I am your host Omar Delgado with me as always Zachary Stein, also known as Stein and our resident Packers fan, Isaac Turjan. Greetings. I bet you're feeling pretty good, huh? Uh, yeah, to say the least. To say
Bears vs. Packers Rivalry
00:00:27
Speaker
the least. Uh,
00:00:30
Speaker
So if you're a Chicago Bears fan who's been living under a rock, the Chicago Bears lost to the Green Bay Packers, as has been tradition for the past 10 years. But before we dig into the game too much or start talking about shit, I mean, we can give some updates here. But if you watched the game, you would have known all these things. But we'll just go over them real quick.
Jalen Johnson's Contract and Future
00:00:56
Speaker
Jalen Johnson was out. He had a shoulder injury.
00:00:59
Speaker
And then in this past day today, I think he was quoted talking about they're asking him what his features looking like he was saying quote I think we get a deal done. I expect to get a deal done. Let's say that I'm confident and expect to get a deal done in Chicago end quote.
00:01:15
Speaker
So looks like as far as Jalen Johnson is concerned and signing him back to the Bears, we're in a better position, I think, than what we were. There's a lot of silence there for a bit. So now we have some information and it looks like he's trying to stick around at least. We'll see what polls ends up deciding.
Critique of Bears Management
00:01:31
Speaker
What do you think, Stein? Oh, I think he's gone. Oh, really? Yep. Yeah. I have zero faith or expectations or anything in this team and the organization at all.
00:01:46
Speaker
You want a vibe for real? I think he's gone. I think we're going to blow a pick. I think I'm fully and 100% prepared for Chicago to continue being losers. Fucking losers. Used to losing, not able to win. I think Fields is gone. Even though DJ Moore said, I don't think he's done here.
00:02:10
Speaker
which was nice to, I think he's, he's always had fields his back throughout the whole season, which is pretty cool. So yeah, that's been great. But, but
00:02:19
Speaker
Yeah, unfortunately, as a player, you are property. You don't matter. So it's nice to have that opinion and that backing. But ultimately, your words are fucking worthless. So at least in the eyes of ownership and leadership, I'm going to put leadership in air quotes, air quote, leadership. That's. Anyone else picking up on my vibe? Yeah. Smells like, no, Jesus said the tone early here.
00:02:52
Speaker
I don't know. I don't see I You don't think but you don't think polls will resign them. You don't have any faith in polls at all No, none Well, I don't have any faith in the organization as a whole
00:03:03
Speaker
Fair enough. So, polls is part of the organization. I don't have any faith in him whatsoever. I think that we're going to blow a first round pick instead of stocking up on talent across the board. We're going to try to take this shot in the whole idea of finding a generational franchise quarterback for a team that has no business whatsoever trying to develop a franchise quarterback, especially with
00:03:33
Speaker
if they were to keep Eberfluiss in.
Packers' Strengths vs. Bears' Weaknesses
00:03:38
Speaker
Yeah, so I don't know. I'm just sort of I'm over all of them. And nothing changed for me in this game. Nothing at all. Like I had a big issue with all of it. So because it was it wasn't even just more or less the same. It was. Exactly the same. There was nothing different. The Packers were able to do whatever they wanted and
00:04:03
Speaker
It's fucking garbage because being able to go through part of my life where that wasn't a thing and then all of a sudden for the last 12 years, that's all it's been. It's like, this is fucking ridiculous. I know better and yet somehow nothing has changed there. I don't get it. Anywho, I think Jaylen Johnson should peace out too. Get the fuck out.
00:04:30
Speaker
I think he should go and take the best deal that he can with a team that actually knows how to manage a team. Gives a shit about winning. Yeah. Yeah. Has a real true winning culture to them. Fuck it. Send them to the Packers at this point. Actually, they would gladly take it. Goddamn.
00:04:50
Speaker
Oh my lord. Um, yeah, I mean, I don't want him to go to Packers, but I mean, I get where you're coming from. I see it. Um, I think with that though, that was like the only real update. Cause everything else was just like injury that like, again, if you watched the game, like you knew there's been no other updates outside of that. Um, Lucas Patrick was hurt. He was on IR. So you didn't play, um, the guy. And with that, the line did not exist.
00:05:15
Speaker
No, the interior was non-existent. There was no interior line last night. It was just a revolving door. And then, yeah, Darnell Mooney was out too. And I think he's gone, honestly. I think him not playing and the kind of down season he had this year, I just think he's not helped his case. And so I wouldn't be surprised if he's gone as well. Jalen Johnson, we'll see.
00:05:43
Speaker
I'm waiting. I'm not saying that I have faith in polls yet. I'm waiting to see how this next week kind of shakes out because I'm definitely on the cusp with polls right now. But we can get into that later. I was surprised that we didn't have more news on Black Monday. I expected a little bit more. There's been, yeah, there's been. And it's literally like nothing. Outside of a few player quotes, there hasn't been anything. The quote from polls was very GM appropriate, right? Yeah.
00:06:12
Speaker
Well, we're taking a look at it from a position of strength. We're working from a position of strength and just going to continue to keep an open mind and look at
Coaching and Strategy Issues
00:06:22
Speaker
all the options. I'm excited for that opportunity. That's the most just political response that you could give. You didn't answer the fucking question. Answer my fucking question. What are you going to do? I think Atlanta is going to pick up a really good
00:06:41
Speaker
quarterback to fit their system that is gonna help them a bit. I'd be very interested, I'm really interested to see where Jim Harbaugh ends up. That's kind of what I'm watching more, more so. Yeah, going back to the Ryan Pulsing, for me it was kind of upsetting that we haven't heard any news and then to hear that him and Matt Eberfus are conducting exit interviews today. It's just like, okay, so you guys are holding hands and interviewing people? I'm pissed. Why is this guy still here?
00:07:10
Speaker
Well and then Iber Flus is supposed to meet with the ownership. Midweek. Midweek. Quote on quote. Did you see his quote? Something about like, he thinks that the schedule's too busy for him to get fired or something like that. No, what? Some dumb shit? What the fuck? Do you have that? I'll have to find this. Yeah. He basically was like, was like, yeah, I don't know. Uh, like that he just, he just thinks that they're, uh,
00:07:36
Speaker
The schedule is so busy that like they won't have a time to be like, get him the fuck out of here. What a fucking idiot. And I was like, Oh man. All right, man. Hey, that is, that takes some cojones to tell you that. To be like, you guys won't
Jordan Love's Rising Star
00:07:52
Speaker
fire me too busy. That's not Chicago though to me. That's like.
00:07:57
Speaker
That's like Philly or New York, you know? There's something, yeah. There's no problem, fuck you. I don't see anything wrong with it. Yeah. What a fucking guru. Just trying to get one over. Well, I think your general vibe has been pretty much established. So I'm just going to be like, yeah, I'm like in the same
00:08:24
Speaker
Same boat, a little more. I'm just laughing at everything at this point. This whole shit's just a joke to me, man. This shit is so funny. Last night, dude, all I could do was laugh. All I've been able to do, watching, you know, the aftermath of last night and thinking about it and looking stuff up today, I'm just like, this shit is fucking hilarious, bro. This shit, like...
00:08:43
Speaker
fucking ridiculous. Um, you want to start digging into the game? I don't think we're going to get into specifics, but I think I think first we need to just start out by giving a nod to Jordan love and his team. Like, like they fucking earned it. There's no denying Jordan loves talent right now. No, I don't think that there really is really like ever.
00:09:03
Speaker
I was never, I don't think I've ever taken the position of denying like his talent at, you know, at all. Um, I mean, he was groomed for a reason. He was picked for a reason by an organization that is, that knows how to develop a competent organization. I knew it was only a matter of time before things started popping off. Um, I thought with their defensive coordinator this year and with some of the things that they were doing that it wouldn't be this year. Um,
00:09:33
Speaker
but they clearly have been sort of correcting the ship. You know. On that point, after the Buccaneers game, Matt Leflore said that he was going to have more of a hand in the defensive preparation. And you can see that something's changed with just creating pressure and just preparing for the teams and shit like that. Yeah. I think that's exactly what he's done.
00:10:03
Speaker
One of the, one of the big problems last night was the pressure on Justin Fields was just constant and consistent and just. The frontline was collapsing. We lost, we lost in the trenches on both sides of the ball. They dominated the trenches, the trenches. It was, it was, it looked exactly like weak one. They really did. That's something that we discussed. Yeah.
00:10:28
Speaker
Go ahead. That was something we discussed at the beginning was like we were really interested to see what these teams would become. And even coming into this game, I think Green Bay's offense had definitely obviously been like going the right direction. Yeah. But so had our defense. And then for them to just not show up, it looked the plays were the pressure was non-existent. The defensive scheme seemed way more conservative than what I was expecting. Soft zone the whole time.
00:11:00
Speaker
There was no pops on the line. It was just I don't know I was like, I don't know what I'm watching right now. Do they all our line imaging? Do they think yeah, like we're having it Yeah, so yeah, they Every every lineman offensive for defensive just got dominated last night. I
00:11:21
Speaker
And going off your point, there was no fire. There was no urgency. There was none of that. And I think that's what was the most disappointing. And it was the exact same. And you were saying how we were hoping to see how these
Seasonal Development Comparison
00:11:36
Speaker
teams would change. And I felt like the Packers offense was a lot more dominant and a lot more
00:11:43
Speaker
I don't know, Jordan loves definitely seemed a lot more convincing in this one. And I think that was the one thing that changed. Because the Packers offense seemed more legit this game than it did week one. At least as far as the high points in week one. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, no, I think his command of it and his just, you can definitely see the growth there. And that's really exciting for Packers fans, I'm sure. Yeah. It is not exciting as an NFC North fan.
00:12:14
Speaker
to have to go through it a fucking game. There was at least a decade there where the Bears defense was something that was definitely going to keep them in the running against Green Bay. When we were bouncing back and forth with NFC North titles there for a while, that was fun. But now it's like, this gave me no hope for the future at all. I was like, going out on a good...
00:12:43
Speaker
You want to be the franchise quarterback. You want to be the, the franchises head coach or part of the coaching staff period. The fucking show out against the biggest rival and keep their asses out of the playoffs. Like do it. Fucking show up and do it. And not a single goddamn person did. And it just, I was like, all right. So that's where we're at. Good job on the.
00:13:10
Speaker
amazing feel in Chicago with wanting to have a winning culture, I guess. Yeah. Uh, yeah, it felt like, uh, every, after the game last night, it just felt like everything, any progress that we had made, it was just wiped away. Like it just felt like nothing. Um, and I was talking to Isaac, we were talking last night and I just, to me, it's just ridiculous that watching the wave talk without me.
00:13:38
Speaker
brothers. I was like, brother, we talk this guy. Um, but we were saying, I was saying how not only to start the game, but then in the second half, everyone just looked limp. Dick fucking didn't like they were not playing. There was no heart. And I think it's ridiculous that in the last game of the season,
00:14:01
Speaker
against our biggest rival to knock them out of the playoffs. The fact that you could not light a fire under your players and get them out there playing with some fucking passion and energy is ridiculous to me. And I think that in itself just shows like where this coaching staff is and where they should be, which is not fucking here. But.
00:14:23
Speaker
Yeah, the offense basically meant no resistance moving the ball up and down. They did whatever the fuck they wanted. Running, passing, it didn't matter. They did whatever they wanted. Jordan Love carved us up. Aaron Jones fucking ran the ball down our throat. It was insane. And it's not like it wasn't getting hit. I mean, you saw that run blocking I sent to the group. I mean, I couldn't tell the difference between that one and any other play where they ran the ball because it was fucking a clinic all night. It was insane. And it's not like it was crazy. What was crazy to me too was the yards after contact.
00:14:52
Speaker
like he was just he would just bust through like and they they couldn't do anything our extraordinary run defense couldn't do fucking shit like i think the highest highest rushing yards you guys have allowed to a single player is 76 and he got 111 111 on 22 carries yep yep uh i was really hoping to see something from our secondary to this game i was hoping that we would uh
00:15:18
Speaker
be able to contain in some sort of capacity. But that didn't happen either. After the first drive, Romeo Dobbs went down after the drop touchdown. And after that, it was all rookies the entire time. Yeah. It was, I mean, just letting the ball hit the ground five times, throwing for 32 times with fucking rookies. That's sufficient. Yeah. Yep. Pretty good stuff from Jordan Love.
00:15:50
Speaker
Yeah, we were mentioning to So Jordan love had five receivers with 30 yards or more and he had three yard three receivers with 60 yards or more so he did a pretty good job of spreading the love around and Just getting the ball to everyone which I think was really what? You're over here punning
00:16:10
Speaker
No, that was your idea. Unintentional.
Justin Fields' Challenges
00:16:13
Speaker
Unintentional. I was like, is he going to notice this? No, I didn't even. Oh, man. I didn't even think about that. Yeah. I mean, he was spreading the love, spreading the ball. He just fucking was getting it to everyone. And I think it just shows his understanding. Just spreading the seed all over. Yeah. His understanding.
00:16:35
Speaker
Yeah, I think it just shows his ability to read and understand the defense and what they're trying to do and get um Take the opportunity because I don't know what the defense was trying to do like Not much I was very confused about what the fuck was happening This is not at all the defense that has been playing Literally since like week four and just lighting it up. Like I don't understand. I don't understand whatever
00:17:00
Speaker
What can you do? One thing that was on the rush, like on the pass rush, we kept the lane integrity so good so that fields couldn't leak out and like create a big run. They were, they would rush the quarterback and they would sit there on the lineman waiting for both sides for him to leak out. And then once he leaked out, it was a sack. And I think that was a big piece in like holding him to not scrambling. It also helps that.
00:17:28
Speaker
Normally when he scrambles and is successful, it's because there's at least some type of integrity on the front line for us. There was zero, there was zero, zero, zero at all. No one was winning their position.
00:17:40
Speaker
And so at that point, it doesn't fucking matter. Even if you hadn't kept lane integrity, you still were going to get it because literally the pocket was collapsing all the time. It did not, like, it didn't even matter. It didn't matter. Like, he wasn't going to make anything happen out of that. Yeah. You had no room to breathe. He was breaking out of the pocket faster than he usually has to, and then ended up holding onto the ball longer than he should. Because your pocket has gone. You're not throwing from a pocket.
00:18:08
Speaker
It's funny, you know, we talk about how long that he holds the ball. He holds longer than anyone else. Anyone else at three point two seconds, three point two, three seconds is his average. Caleb Williams is three point two one. Whereas to is two point three six, he's the leader. Right. So and it's like, I mean, that's a big difference between them. But also when you look at
00:18:36
Speaker
Part of that reason is because Fields does tend to look downfield and he keeps his eyes downfield. He doesn't break away from it fast enough. He's looking for those longer pass plays, which ultimately tells me that in his mind, he is a cord wreck.
00:18:57
Speaker
Right. First, not a runner first. He's not thinking run first. No, no, he's truly looking downfield. Um, but the running gene never really came in until that second year, you know, like that's not what he did in college. He didn't run a lot. No, I mean, they had some, they had some like old wildcat stuff that they adopted. Not to the extent that he was doing. No, no, not, not to the extent of last year.
00:19:20
Speaker
Um, it's just something who's holding his back pocket, I guess. But you know, it's, I think it's tough because when you go through and look at like, when you go through and look at one of the biggest issues is feels most successful with like moving pockets. And we don't implement moving pockets. Like the coaching staff doesn't utilize moving pockets rarely. And like, when they do like,
00:19:48
Speaker
Defenses have to be more reactive. It buys receivers times to get open. And we just don't do it. But that's what he excels at. Again, it's just like you can go through and highlight these things of game plans and game designs that don't.
00:20:01
Speaker
are not suiting his strengths. Why would you not do that? You literally have the guy out there who is second in NFL history to reach all of these milestones by a certain age, number one being Lamar Jackson. It's just like, why would you not build an offense around him and try to be successful that way? I don't get it.
00:20:24
Speaker
But when you look through across the board, he's improving. He's improving as a passer. He's up in the completion percentage every season. He's had growth every single season. So I don't know. It was tough to watch this one because you could see nothing happening at all. Again, play design was just... And honestly, I don't think play design fucking mattered when again, the offensive line can't do anything. I think so many calls, so many plays fell apart before anything could even happen anyways.
00:20:56
Speaker
Yeah, the Packers were able to run and pass all fucking day. Yeah Yeah There was no adjustment either and I said, I know someone was pointing out and I don't think the lack of ability to scheme to Justin's strengths, but I think just in general I
00:21:15
Speaker
to come up with any sort of cohesive offensive plan and then also adjustment. People were pointing out that even after it was pretty obvious that our line was not going to be able to block for more than any second at all. He was getting, he was still scheming routes that were longer and not trying to get the ball out as fast.
00:21:37
Speaker
And he was also still doing screens because he can't fucking quit it. Like the first fields game in Cleveland when Nagy would give him five blockers and then didn't change it at all and let him get sacked nine times. Just wouldn't adjust at all. Yeah. Just through and through a lack of, yeah, I think this was, yeah. Someone went through every single snap.
00:22:08
Speaker
of his thirteen games this season snap by snap and created a spreadsheet breaking down play type what the outcome of it was obviously number of blockers number of routes what routes and the play that ended up being called and again the outcome of the plays and just going through and that's where they were finding like
00:22:35
Speaker
there's clear data to show what he is good at and what he's not. And if a non-professional, right, like you are not a data analyst for the NFL, like this person might actually be a data analyst, like sure, but to like sit there and like drill through that and crawfish to reference it with like stat muse and other additional, you know,
00:23:01
Speaker
Uh, uh, uh, what's the other one pro gen or, um, uh, pro football focus. Yes.
00:23:09
Speaker
And then next-gen stats on top of that so like all of that shit like just cross-referencing it with all that to make sure that their data was clean and accurate based on what they were seeing and it was like if this like Joe Schmo who just Decided to do this can put that together and we know that there are analytics out there available to you at the professional level and like why Why is it so hard to see even more in-depth? Probably even more in-depth and way more accessible than what that guy had to do, you know
00:23:35
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. And so it's just again, I go back to I think what I stated earlier this season that the organization and the leadership coaching staff have never been behind fields. And like, so yeah, I think that there's a reason that they did not adjust their scheme. Yeah, in which case I go back to my
00:23:58
Speaker
statement from earlier this season, which was like, if that is the case, then he needs to go for himself. Like I want him to go for him. I want him to go and be somewhere where he can be successful because I do like him and I do think he's wildly entertaining and he adds this different element to the game. And I think he's good for the game.
00:24:18
Speaker
You know where I want to see him? Seattle. Oh, dude, he would have fun in Seattle. Hook back up with JSN. He would have a lot of fun in Seattle. Pete Carroll would fucking... Well, Pete Carroll can absolutely develop a quarterback. I mean, he has a very Russell Wilson-esque skill set. That's who he looked like coming out of college was Russell Wilson.
00:24:41
Speaker
just way bigger. Which was always Russell Wessel's issue. When Russell Wessel was coming out in the draft, that was the number one thing about him was his height. It was his size in general was not enough to be an NFL quarterback. Obviously, he's proven that wrong, but yeah.
00:25:01
Speaker
Dude, I didn't even think about that. I'm so stuck on, you know, everyone with the Atlanta trade just makes sense as far as to go to the Falcons, like what we're getting and stuff. And I get that. And they're definitely not in on Ritter. So it's understandable. But I don't know. I think it I don't know if it would be hard. I don't know where they're at with Geno Smith right now.
00:25:22
Speaker
So, yeah, he's, I just know he's older. So, I mean, you got him. So, I mean, you can at least just go in with Gina Smith starting and switch up if you need to give him time to actually acclimate and pick up some real skills. And we'll not just pick up some real skills, but I guarantee it. And that's the other thing. Pete Carroll is a fucking coach. Like he's going to scheme to your strengths. He was able to.
00:25:48
Speaker
Jesus. That's a good young offense to offensive line is super young and good. And then the running game is first. If he ends up, if he somehow ended up in Seattle.
00:26:01
Speaker
I would have to
00:26:19
Speaker
And they're like you have to give that back and he's like, oh no, I'm not giving this back I'm keeping this like and they're like, they're like Marsha like you have to give that back He's like, who do I have to talk to? He's like, I'm not giving this back. Like who I had to talk to behind the camera We actually like we put it in his hand like if they'd have just showed it to him and be like look with your eyes Like they would probably would have been all right, but like you let him hold it, you know
00:26:50
Speaker
He might stand up and fucking hit a motherfucker in the face, you know again and again Like they're at the one yard line or something. Yeah, anyways Yeah
00:27:08
Speaker
So I do too he's so great such a great guy He's a fucking character. Yeah, and I love him getting involved in hockey. It's just super fun. Oh, yeah You got any shit you want to talk Isaac about this game room. Yeah, man. I mean boys earned it show out seriously I'm just happy man. I mean it's kind of like I
00:27:30
Speaker
I heard someone point out that it was kind of like skipping that 2008 season and going straight to the 09 season where they played the Cardinals in the wild card. And I'm like, yeah, kind of. I mean, they're just so insanely ahead of schedule. And I think whatever, even if we get our ass kicked next week, I mean, the extra week of practice with the young guys
00:27:51
Speaker
The playoff experience of the intensity and the speed of the playoffs and the playoff game planning and just the high level environment. Yeah, just going to going into that world. Yeah. Yeah. Fucking. That's that's insane for these guys who are like 21 to 23 years old that are going to rally together and fucking. You know what I was doing at twenty twenty three. But not this and not going to play a playoff game in fucking Dallas.
00:28:20
Speaker
Yeah. And just regardless of the ceiling of whatever love has, just right now, it looks promising. And I think next year is going to be even better. Promising and operational. Like it it.
00:28:37
Speaker
Even if you took his best game from this year and called that his ceiling, if that literally was the best game for the rest of his career, that is operational. It's our top five offense. That is more than enough than what you need to make your team competitive and have a fucking shot. I mean, like, yeah, it's just. I mean, this is very, very solid evidence. I mean, a lot of me like getting back up, you know, like, you know, like, yeah.
00:29:07
Speaker
Yeah, it's just um, um This is probably gonna be the most like Obviously i'm a diehard packers fan. So i'm gonna be shit in my pants next week But it's like the most stress free stress free playoff game i'll probably ever watch Yeah, I mean you guys are playing with house money at this point. That's what i'm saying Yeah, you know if you lose you're like we're we got farther than we than anyone thought especially halfway through the season You know i'm like if you win, holy shit
00:29:33
Speaker
Do you think the change came when the force the floor said that he was going to be a little more involved with the defensive scheming as well? You think that that's where like things really started picking up because the defense changed a bit.
Packers Defensive Improvements
00:29:45
Speaker
Yeah. So you can see that, which I think ultimately makes them more competitive, right? I mean, they needed that if he hadn't done that.
00:29:54
Speaker
I don't think we'd be having this conversation. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I mean, they've allowed one touchdown in two weeks. So I would like to think that Panthers have played two games since they played us and they haven't scored a point. Like there was something that was systemically wrong with the defense and I don't know if it's just like,
00:30:16
Speaker
Barry, like, okay, my job's on the line. I need to switch it up. Or it's the floor. Like he said, after the Buccaneers game a few weeks ago, I'm going to go in and I'm going to help game plan and like put his hand into things and whatever. I mean, that's helpful because also having an offensive minded coach in with the defensive coordinator, who is always going to be looking at it from a defensive perspective, mindset, trying to look at it as a defender from an offensive perspective.
00:30:46
Speaker
but they don't have an offensive, but they're not an offensive minded person. You know what I mean? Like, it's kind of like you're trying your best with the tools you've got, but you keep hitting the hammer, the nail with a screwdriver instead of a hammer type thing. Sometimes you just need someone else in there. Yeah. And a lot of, a lot of like realistic Packers writers that I listened to have all said that they have confidence that Barry is still fired.
00:31:13
Speaker
That's the biggest hope for the offseason is that he's fired and we can get like somebody else that can utilize the athleticism of this defense because we we have drafted nothing but athletes like Consistently and it looks like in the first round we're gonna be going defense again with a corner
00:31:37
Speaker
Um, and yeah, I just We're not Reaching our max potential at all. And if we can get like if we can keep this Operational systemic offense at like a top 10 and then like a middling defense at least I mean that's the most you can ask for it there and Yeah, that's the hope for right for success But yeah, I just
00:32:06
Speaker
don't have a lot of shit to talk I'm just hyped you know it's fun to watch and just the
00:32:16
Speaker
He's kind of coming into like, everyone's like, I said this yesterday, but he's starting to kind of become his own like version of his own quarterback. Like everyone's comparing him and shit like that to Rogers and Farf, which makes sense because he's the successor, but he's starting to make like Jordan Love type plays like shit that just looks like Jordan Love. Yeah. Um,
00:32:43
Speaker
So yeah, and it just looks like he has command of this team and this offense and he is just Filling in that leader role tremendously this year so far and That locker rooms behind him and fucking Loves working with him. It seems like from the outsider perspective. So Yeah, just all around a successful year no matter what happens the rest of the way No, that's my that's my piece
00:33:11
Speaker
I don't want to let this podcast go by without saying, someone needs to tell Tony Romo to shut the fuck up. Holy shit, dude. Holy fucking shit. He was pissing me off last night. The dumb shit that you was saying. Oh my God. This guy was praising Getzie at one point talking about how great he's
Game Commentary Critique
00:33:30
Speaker
doing. Oh, I love seeing that from Getzie. It's so great. Oh, shut the fuck up. Me and Isaac were, how many times do you think, we should have a counter because me and Isaac were watching the game together last night and it was like,
00:33:41
Speaker
every fucking file was just like too many Tony Romo shut the fuck up like please for the love of Christ stop talking which is crazy because when Romo first came in he was the fan favorite yeah like a mile but then CBS told him to
00:33:57
Speaker
chill with the analytical shit and become more like- Which is stupid, yeah. Because that's what people liked about him was his ability to sit there and be like, look, this is what's going to happen. His explanation, he was also able to dumb it down like the nomenclature. More like the average viewer could understand. I appreciated that.
00:34:20
Speaker
You can see that an adjustment was made at halftime and that he, uh, like he took the feedback and applied it. Uh, it is not working. I don't think, I think that they need to re re-examine. Revisited Greg Olson is the new goat right now. I love Greg Olson. I love Greg Olson so much. I mean, even before he, he was an analyst. Like I, I really appreciate Greg Olson. Yeah, same. Love that guy.
00:34:48
Speaker
One bright spot. Cairo Santo, three for three on kicks. So, yeah, the first one by the fucking grace of God, dude. That shit was... He undid, he undid... It was so loud. It was so loud. He undid the curse of the doink, dude. He's undone it, like...
00:35:03
Speaker
I think, I think he did it on purpose. One demon has a- Just to be like, fuck you. He's like, fuck you. Anybody can doink, but can you doink and score? Can you doink and score? Because I will. That's why I have to contract, bitch.
00:35:20
Speaker
Yeah, he has exercised one of the Bears as many demons of the double of the joint. Classic. Now I want to go watch Ace Ventura. Yeah, that's a separation that Dontavian Wicks is starting to get like off the release is reminded me of Devontae Adams a little bit.
00:35:42
Speaker
The first touchdown catch where I think he had Tyreke Stevenson in press. Fucking got him out of his cleats. It was so good to watch. These rookies, man. I think there's a tweet that I saved where it was like, the Packers turned that second round pick that they offered for Chase Claypool and turned it into both our rookie receivers and then Tucker Craft.
00:36:13
Speaker
That's crazy. Didn't Chase Claypool get targeted last night that turned into the interception?
Weather and Upcoming Games
00:36:22
Speaker
Yeah. Probably. I don't know. I didn't. What a year from now. That's the last play of the game. What a year.
00:36:30
Speaker
What a year for him, yeah. And now they get to go and play Kansas City this weekend. Did you see what the weather's supposed to be? I saw a negative 19 windshield. Holy shit. It's like 12 degrees is the high. Holy shit. 12 degrees is the high. I'm like, yeah, that's what we need. The fucking Miami Dolphins. Fucking playoff game.
00:36:50
Speaker
You're going to be frozen dude. Say to Wilbo Casey not being like top of the game right now. That's still fucking Kansas City. You know who the dolphins remind me of right now? The LA Rams with goth.
Team Performance Comparisons
00:37:09
Speaker
when they were hyper-specific skiing. They could go out, put up a shit ton of points. But the... Couldn't be the real ones. The quarterback can't work out a structure. Yeah. And now I think that's where they're at with Tua, where they have to make some decisions this offseason, especially when they probably get their ass kicked next week by Kansas City. Yeah.
00:37:31
Speaker
This is, man, this first round of the playoffs already is- So many storybook. So many. I mean, you've got Tyreek Hill going back to Kansas City. You've got- Stafford. Mike McCarthy is hosting Green Bay. You've got the, I think, honestly, I think the biggest one there is going to be the Stafford golf one, right? Yeah.
00:37:52
Speaker
It's more of a golf revenge game than a Stafford revenge game. No, it's not. I don't think it's a Stafford revenge game because he you know, I mean, you got it. Yeah. And when he went that year, you know, the Detroit fans were all big supporters for him. You rightfully so. I mean, because he did so much for that franchise. And unfortunately, he wasn't he was not able to bring that that playoff game home ever. Right. And so that's this is something that's kind of bittersweet, I think, on his piece of being like,
00:38:20
Speaker
It's weird that he's a piece of the story, but from the other end now. He wasn't the one to do it. I'm very curious to see what the fan base is like. I'm sure that they'll give the respect to him, but then as soon as that whistle blows, they're going to be like,
00:38:35
Speaker
I don't think they're going to be booing him necessarily, but you can, they certainly aren't going to be rooting for him. They'll be booing the other players instead or something, but I think he's earned his, his respect, his, his place in, in Detroit history. Um, I don't see it being like too, too much animosity. I think there might be animosity from golf. Yeah. You said, you said golf at the beginning of that Stein, but I think you meant Stafford.
00:39:02
Speaker
Oh, Stafford. Yeah. No, no, I think I think golf would be because he openly said he in that interview, he said he wanted an exit interview because he wanted to know what he wasn't doing so that he could get better. Like, you know, if you're going to let me go, if you're trading me out, I want to know why I want to know, like, what do I need to do to be better?
00:39:23
Speaker
What is it that I was not accomplishing here? What needs to be done? Be Stafford. Be Matt Stafford. Oh, man. There's something interesting with Stafford, the way that he just caters to wide receiver ones. I don't know what it is. It's unlike any other quarterback in history, just to be able to cater to a wide receiver one. One wide receiver, two wide receiver. I'm talking specifically like Calvin Johnson.
00:39:52
Speaker
best receiving, like best receiving year ever. Cooper cup following up. Best triple crown, best receiving year ever. Superbowl MVP. And now Pukin Nakua, like most yards by a rookie receiver ever. Like because Cooper cups been in and out of the lineup. So he's just, I don't know what it is. He's getting that age. Yeah. But I mean, that thing was cup cup was one of my favorites when he first came out.
00:40:19
Speaker
But then he had that knee injury that took him down. And ever since, he's just has been like throughout his entire career. Like the consistency is that he's he's he's going to miss some games. That's kind of what his consistency has been. And but when he's not, he is producing. So like, obviously, that's not necessarily a detriment to the team. You know, unlike most people, most the majority of players who end up with injuries are not making comebacks like that. They are not. They are not coming back and still being that level of productive. So, yeah.
00:40:48
Speaker
Um, but you're absolutely right. That is something that Stafford just gets just gets insane. Sorry. We're kind of just, no, no, dude. That's what we're going to do. Yeah. That's right. Okay. Um, I think go ahead. I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm obviously very upset with the bears and, and how the season turned out, like more from the lack of leadership.
00:41:16
Speaker
this year and just not positioning our players, but I still love the sport. And like, I'm excited to continue watching, you know, the playoffs this year. See how it all shakes out.
00:41:26
Speaker
Yeah, because especially this has been a fucking wild year. It's been a weird and crazy NFL broke records on the number of rookie starting quarterbacks on the number of backup starting quarterbacks on like every just across the board Week to week day to day weird ass games sometimes who was going to be starting? Yeah Hey, man, I got
00:41:51
Speaker
I think it's entirely possible that Tampa Bay beats Philadelphia. I think it's also very possible. Yeah. Yeah. I can see that. Like, especially with Philadelphia railing, like they are. And I don't know how significant the A.J. Brown injury is, but. Dude, they cannot pull out of the nosedive that they're in right now. Not at all. Nick Sirianni is such a pretender of coach. Like, I'm so annoyed with him. Like, he's such like.
00:42:18
Speaker
He doesn't do anything. I'm so annoyed with his ass. But they're not going to fire him. Let's let's wrap up the game, though, real quick here before we keep doing the football talk. We didn't wrap up the game. Not officially, not officially.
Season Reflection and Historical Context
00:42:35
Speaker
Do you have anything you want to talk about? We put nine points on the board about fields. Yeah, anything more?
00:42:41
Speaker
I really appreciate all the work that he put in and I appreciate that he tried. I know how difficult growth is when you're not in the right environment.
00:42:51
Speaker
So, um, he never quit. Yeah. I'll give him that. Yeah. Very gracious. Wish him luck. You had a really gracious farewell yesterday. Um, I mean, they're what, what maybe is farewell. We don't know how this all going to shake out yet. Um, yeah, I think to wrap it up here, I'll bet my left testicle. This is farewell. Are you guys, I'm going to cash in on that motherfucker. You better be ready to make it, make a earring out of it. Let it dangle. Hell yeah. Um,
00:43:21
Speaker
Just and then we can move into that conversations, Isaac, but I think just to wrap up the game, because this kind of goes away from the game, I just want to start with some fun facts here. Or not so fun facts if you're a Bears fan. Since 1992, the Bears are 15 and 51 against the Packers. The Bears have not won at Lambeau Field in a decade. And the last offensive play of the 2023 season for the Chicago Bears was an incomplete wide receiver screen on a third and 22.
00:43:47
Speaker
That's fitting. Which is very fitting. I need to go through and find out the stats on the season, how many screenplays we ran. I guarantee that stat exists somewhere.
00:44:01
Speaker
And if not, I'm gonna rewatch every fucking game and count. And count of yourself, yeah. Just out of sheer, like, anger. Like, hey. Oh, man. All right. So with that, I think we'll move on from the game. And then, Isaac, go ahead and I think you're one of the seriousness to Justin Fields' conversation here, right? I guess it was just more of a question. But then after I thought about it, I was like, I don't know. Because you guys were talking about, like, getting the haul for the number one overall pick.
00:44:25
Speaker
But I'm like, would you guys be opposed to trading number one overall pick and fields and just bringing in a veteran quarterback and building the roster as it is? Define veteran. Cause I don't want someone that's got two years left. I was looking. Yeah. Cause I was looking yesterday at the, um, who the three agents are going to be. He's not leaving the books. Yeah. But that's up to the books if they want to offer him a contract. Sure. Yeah.
00:44:54
Speaker
But I mean, if he beats the Eagles, he'd probably get a contract. Yeah. But like, that's what I mean. Like someone... It just depends on who it is. But I guess if you're getting rid of fields, can you gamble that number one spot? I don't think so. Yeah. But again, I think that the issue comes down to who is the coaching staff going to be? Because if it's still going to be with Iber Flus and
00:45:22
Speaker
I just don't see it ever becoming what it needs to be for fields to excel. I think he'll be stuck in that like 15 to 20 spot.
00:45:37
Speaker
average as far as like what, what like ranking quarterbacks throughout the NFL. And the only thing that'll keep him in the game is his ability to extend plays and get out of danger. You know, of the 640 some odd yards that he had rushing or whatever the fuck it was this season. The majority of those did not come on design run plays.
00:45:57
Speaker
If a quarterback, if a QB has that many yards, usually- Improvisationally. Usually that's by design and it is not. The majority came on improv. The majority came on survival. I just don't see it.
00:46:16
Speaker
Some realistic quarterbacks that we can snag in free agency. Josh Dobbs is available. Ryan Tannehill, Jamis Winston, Gardner Minshew, Sam Darnold, Teddy Bridgewater, Tyrod Taylor. Gardner Minshew is the most intriguing one there probably. Although his turnover rate is wild.
00:46:43
Speaker
Yeah, that's the thing. He's wild.
00:46:54
Speaker
Tyro Taylor just going to get hurt. So Tyro Taylor's been fucking slinging it for the Giants. So well, he's been healthy. Yeah, that's that's the thing. Well, he's been healthy. Right. Like that's he's definitely he's due for like one like game where his ribs turn into like a smushy. Yeah. Fucking mashed potatoes. Um.
00:47:20
Speaker
Or like someone who would be interesting as like Mike white out of Miami, who was running the jets a little bit last year. Yeah, he was doing all right with the jets for a little bit, a little run. Um, I mean, yeah, it's just hard to find consistency at the quarterback position. Not easy. I guess. Yeah. Cause someone, I think because of fields upside.
00:47:43
Speaker
whatever upside they can get out of him. I think it's, I don't know what the consensus is around the league, but I think like second, third round pick. That's what I've seen is mostly like maybe a high second round at best. Okay. 43rd pick is what they're looking at. Okay. Um, but I think it's the Falcon second round pick is what they were looking at. Um, but the consensus from the league initially was
00:48:13
Speaker
a few weeks back was averaging low second high third from GMs and ownership across the league that they were anonymously reporting on because they won't give out names. That makes sense, yeah. Especially just because it's like a gamble at this point because you don't even know. If you want fields to succeed, you need the
00:48:38
Speaker
I feel like it's been the perfect situation where you can't really gauge. At least I feel like you can't gauge how much is his fault or like, uh, not how much, what am I trying to say here? Let me think about this for a second. Go ahead and say what you're saying. I think it's been a collective of like.
00:48:56
Speaker
You see his mishaps, but some of the mishaps can be honed in on. They can be fixed or approved. Or just avoided. You can get rid of making him think too much and just make it point and shoot. Yeah, just go. Just trust your gut. Just fucking... But I think... Yeah, I just...
00:49:22
Speaker
guess he's trying to make him do too much that he doesn't know how to do or just can't do. He's not built to do. That's the thing. That goes right back to them not building a scheme to his strengths and instead trying to force them into what they, they're like, no, this is how I do it. So you're going to do it the way I do it if you have this job.
00:49:44
Speaker
So, yeah, I think it's just been the perfect, the perfect mixture of like him making mistakes that I think are due to not being developed correctly, but are still mistakes he's making. And then like trying to find that point of like, all right, how much of this is like fixable and how much of this is stuff that we just can't fix that are his problems. How much of it is his environment and how much is him just not being able to make these decisions and process. And I think that's part of what has kept the conversation online. So like back and forth.
00:50:10
Speaker
That's the frustrating thing. They haven't seen his limits. Yeah, for someone who is evaluating and trying to see what they can get out of him, it's kind of hard to gauge what exactly you can, I feel like. But I think, yeah, like the, I think from an offensive coordinator standpoint, they could probably like pinpoint what to do, but then it's the contract and like entering his fourth year, do you want to pay that? How much do you want to stake on him? Yeah.
00:50:36
Speaker
Yeah. Regardless, I mean, with just like a stacked quarterback draft class coming up, like it's, do you want to trade, do you want to trade that pick or do you want to spend it on somebody you can mold out of college? You know? Sure. So there's a lot of different moving parts.
00:50:55
Speaker
When a lot of different teams looking to make that decision too, that have to make that decision. This is kind of going back to updates, I guess, but I just want to, I don't know. We're like 24 hours since the game at least ended. I was expecting someone to be gone. No one has gone. The bears haven't fired anyone yet.
00:51:16
Speaker
Um, we mentioned earlier Iberifluis is expected to meet with people at some point this week. He thinks they're too big. Iberifluis in his interviews. I don't think we'll be back. St. Brown, Mooney. Yeah. Yeah. Deontay Foreman probably. You think he's gone? Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Deontay Foreman's probably gone.
00:51:37
Speaker
I mean, he came in, he did his job. Like, like he hit, he showed out a few games and like stepped in earlier in the season that he was supposed to. And like, you know, I think that that was always sort of an expectation of this is not a long-term thing for him. It's just, yeah, he's not the future of, uh, no, but you can still get a paycheck for sure. And, um, and help a team. And that's what, I think, I think he's going to do the exact same thing next year. Just join a team for a year. He'll be a third string slash like probably practice squad for a little like, you know, part of the season.
00:52:05
Speaker
Bringing up when an injury takes place like and but ready for it. That's kind of thing I think that's the game plan with him at this point his career at his age, you know, it's just like, you know, that's the expectation. Yeah Yeah, you'd mentioned last week's time that they were reporting that he refused is basically here to stay We're coming out that he had been
00:52:29
Speaker
They had anonymous sources that were saying internally that they were going to stick with Eber Flus.
Coaching Controversies
00:52:35
Speaker
His interviews, he seemed like a guy who was staying another year. He seemed like his job was secure. Yeah. Since yesterday, we had players coming out.
00:52:48
Speaker
to defend them and then players coming out criticizing him. We had Montez Sweat coming out and say, quote, when he was asked about him, he said, smart, he's innovative. He listens to his players and he trusts his gut and trusts his players. I'd love to see if Luce back, end of quote. That's the one thing I've heard consistently is that he listens to his players and like takes that input. I mean, he hears him talk. Is he listening though? And then DJ Moore was something that could be
00:53:16
Speaker
Uh, construed as a criticism is I think he's fine. It comes down to us being explosive on the offensive side. We got QB to do it. We just need the plays to put us in position. That's about gets you. That's about gets the one. Yeah. The one thing I like about more is his, uh, I dunno, like you can tell when he's like dancing.
00:53:38
Speaker
He's either like coy not not coy. He's either like It doesn't matter And so he gives like a scripted like whatever PR gave him, you know in response to certain things like like
00:53:51
Speaker
He's fine, and then he moves immediately into other issues of, hey, we just need to be more explosive and all this stuff. Whereas when it came down to the fields questions, he's like, I don't know what y'all are talking about. You've asked me this over and over again. I'm sorry. Yeah, I think that they're OK, but they're not as good as him.
00:54:08
Speaker
period like just like an open leaving you can tell like when it's something he actually cares about it's a switch to talk about because he gets this little like smirk on his face when he does it I'm like that's the more that's the one that he's telling the truth here he's speaking his mind I appreciate that yeah appreciate that yeah there's a difference between like the scripted and the like diplomatic or you know and they're like all right what the fuck guys like you miss one
00:54:40
Speaker
Hey, that was most predictable winning. I was like, there's no way Washington has a chance in this shit. Oh, what do you guys, what do you guys want to go from here? How bad do you want to wrap it up? How did, how did panics do? Terrible. Yeah. Like draft stock dropping like on the timeline.
Panthers' Coaching Search
00:55:02
Speaker
Like he's dropping it in the second round. Well, third round. I'm guessing.
00:55:12
Speaker
Hey, the Panthers have released their full list of head coaching candidates requested so far. This is also something to consider, since I guess now the Bears are not going to be doing that. But Lions OC Ben Johnson, that makes sense. Texans OC Bobby Slowick. Bengals OC Brian Callahan. Cowboys DC Dan Quinn. That'd be interesting. Ravens DC Mike McDonald. Dolphins OC Frank Smith.
00:55:42
Speaker
Rams, DC, Raheem Morris. Who else? They have a couple more. Raven's OC, Todd Monken, and Buck's OC, Dave Canales. Interesting.
00:56:02
Speaker
Is, are we done with the pot or do you want to keep talking to general football on here or we're talking general football right now, just because this is the end of our season. And so we're on the, on the topic of is Eberflux going to stay or not. And so that led me into other, like other options or other teams looking for sure, because that would be something to consider for us as well. Um, if somehow Eberflux didn't actually stay.
00:56:25
Speaker
I'm going to be really disappointed if he stays. And that's the thing that sucks is I feel like he is going to stay. And I'm going to be pretty disappointed. And I don't think I'll be as invested as I might be next year. I want that Michigan defensive coordinator.
00:56:42
Speaker
Cause the whole Michigan coaching staff is going to be poached. I mean, it was deservedly. So they got a good squad over there, man. They finally got their title. I think they're done. Who do you think's gonna hold us for later? Yeah, I think, um, I'm pretty much finished.
Conclusion and Future Plans
00:57:07
Speaker
I don't got shit to talk about other than football. My big thing I'm, I am like,
00:57:12
Speaker
when we're going through, I'm going through like, so many different, you know, draft pieces right now. And it's like, I don't think I see us taking in most in most like, analyst, analyst takes on like, what are our draft will look like, we don't take a D lineman until like the third round. You don't think so.
00:57:36
Speaker
That's, that's what most people are pulling. I'm like, I just don't get, I mean, well, like inside or just D line in general, we need another pass rusher. And I think that's what I'm like, just so, and yeah, even with that, just D line in general, no one until the third round. Uh, so the option option would be if we were to keep fields then and keep the number one spot that we take. Like interior lineman or.
00:58:05
Speaker
wide receiver, right? That's kind of what they're going for instead. I'm like, okay, I guess. I guess. If you really want Marvin Harrison Jr., you got to take him that high. Then you pull an interior lineman at nine, which I'm fully in support of taking linemen higher in the draft all the time. I have no problem with that at all, especially when
00:58:32
Speaker
That is where we are weak. That is really. That's a really huge need of ours. I think regardless of who's at quarterback is just we need to shore up the line. But then that also comes down to like even that's still a crapshoot. Like even that is still a crapshoot and it's kind of a. In my mind, I'm like, I'd rather get rid of the number one pick and I get multiple picks. And and get a couple of interior linemen like not just who is allegedly the top one, you know, and I don't know.
00:59:02
Speaker
We, I think, I think we knocked it out of the park with right, but I don't, I don't know if we can do that again. I don't necessarily. I still have confidence in polls is drafting ability. I mean, I think he's done a pretty good job of scouting talent. Well, that's going to come down to the scouts themselves though. Not, not polls is polls is going to take the information that's provided to him and make a decision based on that. So I don't know if the scouting team is exactly the same as it was the prior years or not. That's the like from a personal perspective. So sure.
00:59:32
Speaker
That's a piece in the sport that I don't pay enough attention to. Who are our scouts? Do we have the same ones consistently or has there been turnover? Did someone get poached by another team because of how well we've turned out with some of the picks or whatever?
00:59:53
Speaker
I think if you want to secure Marvin Harrison, you have to trade with the commanders and snipe Marvin Harrison from the Cardinals because I think that's where the Cardinals go at number four. Yeah. I can see that. And I think the Patriots are fine with either Kayla Williams or Drake May. And since they're at two, I don't think they have to really trade. No. No, I think they're at their position to basically go one way or the other and be
01:00:20
Speaker
I think Caleb Williams might be too, uh, too melanated for Bill Billich. I think he wants to see what the Drake may, or fuck it. He might just take JJ McCarthy or some bullshit. No. Yeah. I feel like bone X is the, uh, as a Belichick quarterback. JJ McCarthy also tanked his draft stock with this game.
01:00:49
Speaker
You know who raised their draft stock? Blake Corum. He's old. Significantly. I mean, I don't know about significantly, but he was already a top draft pick. Is Donovan it? Okay. No. All right, boys. We got any more, any more things we want to hit here or? I don't think so. Nope. Um,
01:01:19
Speaker
I had fun doing this the season. It was a good time, even on the tough days. Mostly because just being able to actually talk football is nice. I work a remote job. Oh, yeah. Limited human interaction. Do not watch football or sports of any kind. Then after that, I'm a coach.
01:01:48
Speaker
I don't have time to go from one training session to the next. So it's like, there's no, Hey, did you get, did you check the game? What are the bears going to do? You know, none of that takes place. So being able to have that. So it was fun. Yeah, I've had fun with this. Thank you to you two for joining me on this whole ordeal. It's been, I've had, thank you for inviting me as a resident Packers fan. Of course. I think it gave a good perspective. Plus it also helped, especially with like the,
01:02:18
Speaker
the north and stuff and just sort of keeping an eye out on that. Yeah. There's a cornerback whose name is Storm Duck. That's a fucking awesome name. That's pretty cool. That's really cool.
01:02:31
Speaker
Are we going to do one for, you know, I think we'll do updates or draft time or whatever. I think we'll do at least one more this next week. Just kind of maybe wrap up the season, kind of wrap up and talk about the NFC North in general. And then, I mean, I think we'll just play. I say we hold off until we find out about Eberflus. You think so? You want to hold off to like after the playoffs so we can wrap up the season for every team. I mean, that's what you guys want to do.
01:03:00
Speaker
I just don't think that we're going to have much more to talk about, um, outside of what I've already said. If, if we're not going to get any news like this week, yeah, significant news, right? We're moving on from Addy Berfaloos or Addy Berfaloos is staying at the very least. He's got, yeah, whatever. Um, or like, you know, you refuse to sustain, but we are going to go get the defensive coordinator.
01:03:24
Speaker
You know what I mean? Also, Kevin Warren talks this week too, I think. So that should have some good nuggets. So unless something significant comes out and actual decisions are made on the key things that we're looking for, I don't know. I think we wait until after the season and get an idea. And I think for a season wrap up, I think it'd be fun to just
01:03:48
Speaker
Wait until because if the lines make the super bowl, you can't just leave that shit out You know you I want to cover that shit. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. So I think just yeah, I just looked I guess we can we'll play it by ear just kind of play it bears news Well, you know, we'll come back. We'll do one we'll talk about it and uh reiterate some of the points we've hit the year And then I want to do a draft one. Yeah, we can definitely wait so i'm down for a draft one for sure Yeah, yeah, we can do all that. Um
01:04:12
Speaker
Yeah, we'll try to keep you guys updated. We'll let you know what's going on. Thank you for whoever's been listening this whole way. We really appreciate it. I really appreciate it. Mostly did this just for fun, but if you were along for the ride to have fun with us, thank you.
01:04:31
Speaker
yeah this season sucked um very i mean i already said it like this was i feel like this whole season just at the end of it's just a wash this is just like there was no forward or backwards movement we just our record was an improvement but even then it wasn't you know i feel like it just all feels like a wash this sucks but
01:04:54
Speaker
whatever uh we'll see what the future holds for us and we will keep you updated and yeah again just thank you we will uh if you want to send an email actually yeah let's do our promotion our promotions and stuff uh stan what do you got for the people check out the other podcast chicks looks with dicks chick flicks with dicks flicks is spelled with an x you can find us on podcast shit everywhere if not let me know um that's what i got very very cool
01:05:24
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Isaac, what do you got? Instagram, Isaac, E-Y-E-Z-E-C-K. I stay updated with anything I do on there, so it's all my shit. Very cool. You can follow me at O-H-M-A-R, Daniel on Instagram. All my music is on wherever you find music. Omar Daniel, no H.
01:05:44
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Go check that shit out. Yeah, if you want to send us an email, send an email to bearclawpodcontact at gmail.com. Would love to hear from you. Share with your friends. Not a lot of time left, not a lot of episodes left, but share with them. If you want to look back on this painful season, you can always listen to old episodes.
01:06:03
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But yeah, we'll catch you soon at some point. Maybe next week, maybe in a couple weeks. Lord knows. But until then, fucking chin up and bear down. Stay strong Bears fans. Deuces.