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Episode 11: The Chicago Tyson Bagents vs The Las Vegas Raiders
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QB drama? Third stringers playing like starters? How about a pride of Lions getting spanked by an unkindness of Ravens? (Yes a group of ravens is called an unkindness, stick with us and you'll learn all sorts of things!) The boys discuss all this and more on this weeks episode of, Da Bear Claw Podcast. Hop in and Bear Down!
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Podcast Introduction
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome to the Bear Claw podcast. I am your host Omar Delgado with me as always Zachary Stein and Isaac Turgeon, Packers fan extraordinaire.
Bears' Victory Over Raiders
00:00:14
Speaker
So the Chicago Bears win against the Las Vegas Raiders. Insert sound clip. Led single-handedly by Tyson Bajant.
00:00:28
Speaker
single-hatedly, you just said. Yes. He won us the game. Anyway, so we won. But before we get too deep into that, let's hit you with some updates. Justin Fields was out last week with a thumb injury, and he will be out next week. It is possible that he could be back by week nine. But that is best case scenario. So he could be out longer than that. Still nothing for sure. But he's looking good. Matty Rufus says he's improving.
00:00:56
Speaker
Also, according to Matt Eberfluis, he is still QB1. He assured that there is no quarterback controversy within the Bears organization. He is still the number one quarterback.
Injury Updates and Player Status
00:01:07
Speaker
Nate Davis is still out with an ankle injury and he will continue to be out.
00:01:12
Speaker
will definitely be out next week against the Chargers, according to Iberfus. Braxton Jones may be back to practice on Wednesday. He missed the last five games, I think. And after Wednesday, if he hasn't come back, actually, I put that in there, but I'm not really 100% sure. But it's like after Wednesday, the Bears have 21 days to bring him back or just leave him on injured reserve for the rest of the season.
00:01:36
Speaker
Roshan Johnson might be practicing on Wednesday. Mattie Rufus said that he's got another hurdle, quote, he's got another hurdle that he has to clear, but it looks real positive and that looks good for Wednesday, end quote. Khalil Herbert will be on injured reserve for at least three more weeks. He still has an ankle injury. But yeah, and we'll have the full injury report on Wednesday and know for sure everything else.
Trade Moves and Player Transitions
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Speaker
The 2023 trade deadline is eight days away, but it seems like the bears are not really going to be making any moves and be pretty inactive. Why does it seem that way? Are you saying that like, is that what people are saying or is it just because we haven't seen?
00:02:17
Speaker
A little of both but mostly just because that's that's what I'm seeing just from reports So it doesn't look like the bears are gonna be making any crazy moves or anything. I mean it could be wrong I don't know about crazy moves, but I do expect some moves Oh, however, we have one more game that we can play and so I also would not be surprised if it's You know just literally day. Oh, yeah, like last minute super last minute
00:02:41
Speaker
An update on Chase Claypool, who is in Miami. He played in the Miami game against the Eagles, and they lost. He is currently on a 13 game losing streak, and it looks like he's still missing blocks in Miami. So eat a dick, Chase Claypool.
00:02:58
Speaker
Uh, with that, that does it for the updates. And so now we're going to head into the general vibe check. Stein, how are you feeling after this bears win against the Las Vegas Raiders?
Bears' Performance Analysis
00:03:10
Speaker
I mean, all in all pretty good. It was obviously against another shitty team. Um, uh, I think that we can take away some pretty good positives and, um, on both sides of the ball. And it is.
00:03:25
Speaker
Yeah, no, I think all in all, it's more so, more so from seeing positive trends for the defensive side, but also seeing what looked like the offensive line to finally get a halfway, sorry, what looked like the offensive line to get a halfway decent rhythm. So I'm very interested to see what the direction of the rest of this
00:03:48
Speaker
This season is going to hold and whether or not now being the Bears. However, I also have zero hope whatsoever that they actually keep doing what works. Sure. Yeah. You know, this season we have. Yeah, I think this this past game was the first game that we stuck with what worked. So.
00:04:10
Speaker
Yeah, I'm feeling, I'm feeling pretty good too. It's just nice to win football games. I think this was, I mean, yeah, the Raiders are a shitty team. Uh, I think our, uh, defense looked good. I mean, we just did, I think this, this game, we just executed well. We just did what we had to. We went out there, uh, and took care of business, which was, it was good. It was nice. There was nothing too crazy. You know, I don't think we, I don't think we were behind the whole game. I think we led the entire game. And so just cruised to a nice little win. So.
00:04:40
Speaker
Do you want to just do a smorgasbord or do you kind of want to start with offense? I think there's a couple of things that I want to talk about going into this week. Obviously, we have the Tyson-Bajant piece, but additionally, we're going to have to take a look at Eberfluis in the calling of the defense and then Getzi calling it the offense. I'm just going to throw this out there. I fucking called this last week.
00:05:04
Speaker
Right. I called it. I said you did. You're going to win. You guys are going to win. And then there's going to be a hype train afterwards that like and a lot of conversation agents, the future. Yeah, that's bullshit. You know, it's funny. I think you had mentioned that people had brought up.
00:05:20
Speaker
like complaining about saying so many people talking about how, oh, Bajans QB1 now, Bajans QB1 now. Obviously we have Ivar Flus coming out and saying like, no, not a thing. I think obviously it's, I can understand from a fan perspective, like getting caught up in something fresh and something hopeful.
00:05:41
Speaker
I get that. But yeah, I think we can dive a little further into that. A comfortable win too, I think. Like this win wasn't like an up and down, wasn't like a nail biter, wasn't like an emotional or anything. It was just like, this is a game we should or have the potential to win. And we did. It was good to see.
Rookie Performances and Offensive Line
00:06:00
Speaker
You know, Devontae Adams.
00:06:03
Speaker
Initially, they came out firing. I thought Devontae Adams was just going to just pop off for sure. He tends to do that against the Bears, right? Yeah. I was remembering Isaac saying last week, he was asking us if we thought that was going to happen. I was like, okay, I think it might actually, I think that is going to happen. It was an interesting take though to have Stevenson on him the whole time. I think it was a really good experience for the rookie to get that, but also to be shown the faith that
00:06:32
Speaker
Like, yo, we're not pulling you off him. Yeah, we trust you. This is your job. This is what you're going to have to do. He is absolute. I think he has the makings to be a fantastic defensive back in this league. And I think he's been proving that week over week. And it was nice, like he's going up against a truly elite like future Hall of Fame wide receiver. Yeah. Who is, I'm sorry, I think just wasting away and fucking.
00:06:55
Speaker
In Las Vegas, in the sun. You gotta get him over in Green Bay. That's it. But, you know, having the ability and the opportunity to get the reps in against that, I think.
00:07:12
Speaker
and for him to rise up to it you know meet the challenge game really pulled together they've been aggressive i think that's something we can kind of go into is like uh yeah on the topic of rookies rising to the uh to the challenge it seemed like uh right was the one taking on crossby who was like the raiders his main
00:07:32
Speaker
talent on on defense. And it seemed like Wright was the one to take him on most of the time. And he I think he did pretty good. He gave up four pressures in a sack. But I think for a rookie going against a talent like that, I think that's I think he did a really good job. Well, they also moved Nate Davis over to right guard. So he had like the two largest men on the right side that place that side of the ball. There's two guys there. They were the size of three men, basically. Yeah.
00:07:58
Speaker
Like, holy shit. They were absolutely like just manhandling that side. And, you know, so yes, I mean, although I think that again, that's another another piece, right? Of a rookie like, hey, you're lining up against one of the best pass rushers out there right now. Like, mm hmm. We trust you, you know. Yeah. And then white hair playing over it left guard. It just seemed like the offensive line locked in a bit. And I know you briefly made a comment about like, you know, everybody
00:08:29
Speaker
of basically playing where they're most comfortable, everybody playing.
00:08:31
Speaker
where they wanted to is kind of where you were sitting at. And I was like, wait, hang on. So why the fuck were you doing that? Yeah. Fucking knew this and like, what? So, yeah, that's very, that's pretty strange. Yeah. I think we've had like six different, uh, starting offensive combinations since the start of the season or something like that injuries. And I, I wouldn't be surprised if we got more, especially with people coming off the IR. So yeah, that's going
Running Game Success
00:08:59
Speaker
to be interesting. You know,
00:09:02
Speaker
Yeah, I mean overall I think our yeah, I agree with you I think our o-line did hit a rhythm and it seemed like they were doing pretty well. I think it helped that Didn't seem like Tyson Bajant was hanging on to the ball for too long or really taking too long Well, it was also that helps them they they also Worked so well together and establishing the run game, which ultimately is what led to that clock control, right? Yeah led to that and
00:09:25
Speaker
the execution of an actual what seemed like game plan from get see for finally right. Yeah. Of of holy shit. Like there's something that kind of makes sense here. Oh yeah. Well with the run and we're not going to stop. We're not going to go. Yeah. Yeah. I was just waiting for that moment. Yeah. I was waiting for that moment. Yeah. Just be like, yeah, we're not going to run the ball. Actually, we're not going to do that anymore.
00:09:47
Speaker
We're not going to do what works. Our running game was great, and there were backups, too, which was our three and four on the roster. And Deontay Forman had a fucking awesome game. He was running. He popped off. Yeah, he refused to go down on every run. It was really, really fun to watch, just watching run over people. He had 16 carries for 89 yards and two touchdowns, one of which I think was a passing touchdown.
00:10:14
Speaker
He honest to God was like.
00:10:18
Speaker
I think that's what people were expecting him to be when we picked him up. You know, he is that sort of he's not usually much of a juker. He's not much of a lateral motion type of guy. Yeah. He tends to be more of like a grounded pound type guy. Yeah. And boy, he pounded it for sure. I mean, he pounded it hard. He was pounded it left. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It didn't matter where it's pounding. If there was a place to be pounded, he was doing it for sure. I mean, he did what he was.
00:10:47
Speaker
He came out and he did exactly what he was paid for. Yes. And stepped up. It was nice to see him. Absolutely. Again, right. I mean, he had a decent performance last week, too. You know, again, stepping up and like it was it was good to see him out there. So and actually get to be part of like the game design fully utilized and not not like, oh, you're working well, but we're not going to use you anymore. Yeah. Yeah. We have a lot of depth that running back. I wonder how
00:11:18
Speaker
How tough it's gonna be to make decisions with you know Deontay Foreman having a game like that once Once everyone's healthy once Roshan's healthy and once Khalil Herbert's back. I wonder how difficult those decisions are gonna be or Well if anything I'm hoping it kind of opens up
00:11:32
Speaker
the possibility of the run game like of. Yeah. Like we don't need to. We don't need to be playing a lot of lateral run pieces. Like we've got some that truly can. I mean, Herbert's got a halfway decent, you know, straightforward, but he's also more of a you can utilize him as a multi tool player. Right. Yeah. Like Deontay Foreman is like, just just give him the fucking ball. He's just going to run to your face at some point. Yeah.
00:12:00
Speaker
You know, then speaking of people, honestly, and that's the other thing is like Deontay Forman was an extremely high caliber running back for a little bit. Right. Like in through his career, like earlier in his career, he was absolutely a high octane runner. He is.
00:12:16
Speaker
past that. Right. It just couldn't avoid injuries. That was the main derail. Yeah. And he was up there. Absolutely. And he I mean, he would show out and pop off and he was fun to watch. You know, I think we have to give credit there, obviously, like, hey, congratulations. You know, this whole the Tyson Bajan thing we'll get to in a minute. And I think that that is absolutely overshadowing, though. Yeah. Deontiform like you have to call that sort of like a comeback performance almost because that's that's getting him more. Yeah. Back to that level that he's known for. So.
Home Win Streak Broken
00:12:45
Speaker
Yeah, I would say that.
00:12:46
Speaker
Yeah, and I think it's a little unfair that the Tyson Pageant thing is overshadowing Deontay Forman's performance, because it was really good. And I think I was reading too, Iber Flus was talking about, because you were saying how he at one point wasn't even on the roster. And Iber Flus was talking about how he's been the same guy throughout all that, even when they took him off. And then he came back on. He's had the same attitude and everything, which is great. You love to hear that, you know?
00:13:12
Speaker
Yeah. You know, I think something we should mention is obviously it's Chicago Bears first home win since in over a year of 2022.
00:13:20
Speaker
Yeah. And not just our first home win, but it was our first Sunday win since the same time. So I mean, I think it was like 391 days. For the Sunday win? For over a year. That's just why. Yeah. That's a long time to go without a home victory. That's tough, dude. But it's behind us now. Only blue skies ahead. So good O-line, good run game.
00:13:51
Speaker
You want to get into Beijing? Yeah, let's get into Beijing. Let's get into Beijing. Again, another guy that stepped in and did exactly what he gets paid for. Took care of business. Came in. He was efficient with the ball. He protected it. He made a lot of short passes. Yeah.
00:14:10
Speaker
Now, again, I think that's by design. I think that's one of the reasons that he was able to get rid of the ball so quickly is because some of those plays were designed for that. Yeah, and you can kind of tell. I think, especially after you mentioned that last week on the pod, I was watching this week and it felt like I could tell almost where it's like, oh, I am seeing that. Like, you can see it. Like, OK, that is definitely like that play is drawn up for him specifically to get that, you know, specifically for that, to get the ball out quick and to give him that option.
00:14:38
Speaker
Well, that's a standard when it comes to game design around a backup quarterback. When you know that your starter is truly out of like going into a game and you're going to be with your second string. Like that's very common is that you have especially a rookie. Yeah. Yeah. A D2 rookie. Like like is that it's not necessarily that it's dumbed down as much as that. It's like, no, we're going to simplify some of what we do. And to the point where I was like,
00:15:07
Speaker
Why don't we just kind of do that for a little bit anyways? Since Fields has still yet to really get the opportunity to, I don't know, develop in an offensive system because that has been there consistently. This is year three, and yet what system are we on now?
00:15:25
Speaker
I mean, two, three, three. Who was the offensive coordinator last year? Because it was not get to, was it? I think it was. Was it? Oh yeah, it was. Cause he's the one that had to modify it with the run game and such for, for fields, but still it was, but they modified that game.
00:15:44
Speaker
It wasn't the same scheme. So it's not the scheme of what it is this year. And so it's like, well, why don't we go back to some of this, like, hey, design it so that he can get through the reads a little bit quicker so that he's not trying to elongate things and hold the ball for six fucking seconds. Yeah, trying to make something happen. Yeah.
00:16:01
Speaker
This, watching the scheme around Tyson Bajan, I don't know, I was a little bit thinking like, is there sabotage going on here? Because Luke Getsey looked at, I looked at the roster, knew who his quarterback was and schemed accordingly and was able to have them and was able to successfully execute. Why haven't we been able to do that all season? Like, why are we having this back and forth and this like return to, you know, to bad play calling, not just in general, but first field specifically?
00:16:30
Speaker
I don't know. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to get cute with shit. He tries to
00:16:56
Speaker
pocket presence, pocket awareness, field awareness. He made great decisions, and he showed a lot of poise. But these are things that we've mentioned last week when we saw him come out too, without warning, right? So he had a week of preparation, so it was nice to see that.
00:17:13
Speaker
Now, I will say, you know, you said it's not, you don't think it's quite fair that Bajan's story is overshadowing Foreman's performance. I disagree. Yeah. Because isn't this what sports is
Underdog Story of Tyson Bajant
00:17:25
Speaker
about? Sure. I mean, sports is about this is a legit underdog story, right? D2, undrafted. You look at his route to even get here. The last game that he started at had 2,000 fans. This one had over 60,000 fans in attendance and it was
00:17:43
Speaker
You know, like and it was shown nationally on television, which you can stream globally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, you know, I also want to like put the brakes on a little bit and be realistic. Yeah, he was 21 of 29, but that was for 162 yards and a touchdown. Right. Yeah. So, you know, now Foreman half of which of those yards come came from yards after catch. So. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Again, that's off.
00:18:12
Speaker
Now, that is making good plays and good decision making. Yeah. Yeah. Your playmakers, which again comes back to the issue I have with Gatsy. If you do that.
00:18:22
Speaker
That's yeah, dude, that's what I was saying like yeah, and when he did do that elsewhere were the games where fields Collectively combined for what what 700 yards between the two games? Yeah with six seven touchdowns, you know like those two games back-to-back where it was like, oh, yeah No, we got it right. We've got the run game going and it allows us to spread the field and
00:18:46
Speaker
gives the wide receivers opportunity to create a little bit more space, gives him time to get the ball out. He didn't hold the ball as long in those games. And then right back to like the bullshit we were saying that eventually got him hurt. Yeah. Yeah. That, you know, now the agent comes in. So I mean, ultimately, though, for me, for Beijing is I think we got to see him poised in a nationally televised game in front of 60,000 plus people at home.
00:19:11
Speaker
You don't give the fans the first home win in well over a year on sunday you know it was it was good for i'm happy form and this is something that i think he has to never forget his entire life and hotel is kids and you know whether he turns out to be like a.
00:19:27
Speaker
a long term backup or whether he turns out to be like maybe he gets a starting opportunity later down the road, you know, with a team. I don't know if it would necessarily be. Who knows what that holds, right? I don't think we have enough film still. That's the other thing. Yeah. You know, defensives usually now there's game film on him. Right. Like now they have actual like.
00:19:48
Speaker
game film in this game, you kind of have an idea of like what he wants to do. But even then, most defensive scouts require like three to four games of film. And so this is still only one. So if we can limit the amount of time that we show him, you know, so it's kind of like.
00:20:07
Speaker
Yeah, when I think most defenses, too, are going to be better than the than the radar. So again, though, you had one of the best pass rushers in the league going after an untested D2 rookie. Right. So that's kind of I think we got he. And with that, he knew it was on the other side of the ball. I mean, extremely poised. Yeah. Great pocket presence, pocket awareness like so. I mean, ultimately, I think
00:20:37
Speaker
we can shit on the Raiders all we want.
Defensive Strategies and Challenges
00:20:39
Speaker
The that front line is still a force to be reckoned with, especially with an offensive line that we can't always consistently rely on. Right. So, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, sure. Yeah, sure. What? No, you don't sound like you agree. Well, I don't I don't disagree. I just think I mean, yeah, but I don't think I think we I mean, we just talked about it. The old line kind of did a good job of taking those kind of did a good job. Yeah.
00:21:06
Speaker
I'm going to say as a backup quarterback who sat out for six fucking games and watched the number one guy get his dick kicked in for four of those games. Why on earth would he ever come in here with any type of like? I would have zero confidence at all going into that game. I'd be like, are you fucking kidding me? I know you're switching the line again and now you're switching them all around again. Yeah, against this guy. You want to switch them around again against this guy. That's what we're doing for my start.
00:21:35
Speaker
That's OK, cool. So for me, that's where poise matters. That's where pocket presence matters. That's where like he. Yeah, I disagree with you. Yeah, I'm not saying he wasn't poised. I'm not saying, you know, that he wasn't saying we can't totally shit and like discredit just because I do not want to shit on the Raiders, though. I'm just saying our old line did a good job of taking care of that front four as well. Well, I mean, Max Crosby has been. You know, ridiculous the last few weeks, so it's obviously a testament to be able to hold him
00:22:05
Speaker
Because even him being crazy opens up spots for everyone else. So I mean, just being able to hold that and then neutralize the whole line is a testament. Absolutely.
00:22:16
Speaker
Oh, I wanted to hit on Tev and Jenkins too. He had 33 pass blocking snaps. And in those 33, he had zero sacks allowed and zero pressures allowed. So I just wanted to give a tip of the cap to Tev and Jenkins, because he's been doing that. And it seems like, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it seems like he's more comfortable at guard. And that's where he kind of wants to be. So I don't know. Maybe we'll keep him there. I guess it depends all on injury and scheme and what gets you and Ibriflucer feeling like.
00:22:46
Speaker
uh, offensively too. Oh yeah. No, no love for commit on national tight end day. Um, yeah, I was like, damn, you know, Kelsey showed out and yeah. Yeah. That's the other thing looking around the league, like all the other China.
00:23:04
Speaker
It's like damn, bro. I think we can dig into the defense a little bit now unless there's anything else you want to talk about. Oh, actually, the one thing about Beijing that we do need to mention that is, you know, he is that he was taken out for the Hail Mary play all the arms. Yeah. Yeah, that was really what they put him in later for the victory formation, too, I think. But yeah.
00:23:26
Speaker
Yeah, that was so straight. I was confused. I was like you guys really do not trust this guy's arm like what for a Hail Mary. Come on Exactly. Yeah When Peter man tried to get cute with it too. It looked like and he didn't I don't even think that throw wasn't very great. So
00:23:43
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it's a little concerning, not for, I don't know. I think, I don't know who to be more concerned about, you know, is it like, is there something that the coaches are seeing, uh, in Tyson Bajans arm or lack thereof that, that they switched out or is it just them making a dumb fucking decision? Like hard to tell. I think it, I think ultimately just comes down to, he probably hasn't really run that much anyways and you know, just fuck it. Like why, why, why
00:24:08
Speaker
He's doing so well at these like short game, the short games like fuck it. Just don't don't let him.
00:24:17
Speaker
You're setting him up, the odds of that being a catch are very small. And so it's like, don't, yeah, my thing is don't set him up for, for failure. Another, another, uh, another failed pass possible interception because you don't know what the kind of effect that's going to have. Oh yeah. So to me, I'm like, yeah, we don't give a shit about the mental effect. It's going to have on Nathan Peter. And so.
00:24:42
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Poor guy. Oh, I will say third down conversions were a little bit better, right? Eight and 13. That's better than some of the games where we've gotten like one in 15 or something. Yeah, it's some shit. Two in 14. You know, eight and 13. Yeah, we'll take it. Still not not great, but, you know, better. Better than the Raiders.
00:25:08
Speaker
But yeah, I mean moving over defensive side of the ball, if you want to jump into that, I think the one thing I really want to look at is the question I want to posit to lead this conversation is does Eber Flus being in complete and total control of the defense make them a better defensive unit?
00:25:31
Speaker
And so diving through some of the stats that we're looking at and the performance of the games, especially the last three combined, you know, I'm going to say yes, especially considering like they haven't had the same personnel package every time because we've had people going in and out and.
00:25:48
Speaker
You know, uh, out with injury coming back, you know, going on the IR. Some people are on the way back from the IR for earlier in the season. All sorts of fucking musical chairs. Exactly. And yet they've still been able to lock down the run consistently over the last few games. Um, we've allowed just above 15 points average over the last few games, which that was something we were discussing.
00:26:13
Speaker
offline was one of the things that in the league that they look at when it comes to true data, true metrics is three games of a consistency, whether that's in a positive, negative fashion, whatever, in order to determine pros and cons. And so the last three games we've allowed
00:26:34
Speaker
only 15 offensive points by the defense. Right. So that's not like turnovers, you know, the scoop and scores or anything like that. That's that's strictly just the defense versus the getting scored on. Yeah, exactly. You know, TD is happening in like garbage time. Yeah, basically. So, you know, I think that that is and we've had the turnover rates last few games have been higher. We've been able to limit that passer rating.
00:27:04
Speaker
Um, so yeah, I mean, I think generally they've been doing a better job, uh, especially the last three, but it's then you, you, you got to consider what we talked about earlier.
00:27:18
Speaker
with Eberflu's taking over was like, okay, well, he's going to change the defensive scheme again. So all these guys were already in the middle of learning one. Yeah. And then had to just being able to apply it at like a live level, right? Before our defensive coordinator is not there.
00:27:36
Speaker
He wasn't even at game two, right? He was at game one, not at game two. And then he was gone. It just wasn't officially gone until, yeah. And it was like, by the time they got to game three, you know, Eebs didn't have enough time to like throw something. No, that's not enough time to really make the defense yours in the way you want to. So they've had a few weeks. And like, I think you can see that transition and having him be that voice that's in their ear consistently, I think has been helpful. And one of the reasons that they've been
00:28:04
Speaker
doing pretty well on the defensive side of the ball. So that's my take on it at least. What are your thoughts on Ibrafouz is the defensive coordinator and how we've performed with him? Yeah, I mean you read my mind because that was something I definitely wanted to talk about because I think it's something that has to be acknowledged with just how since Ibrafouz has taken over it seems like the defense is on an upwards trend and it's I mean it's really
00:28:25
Speaker
I mean, it's hard to not, it's hard to deny in general, hard to deny with any sound evidence. Cause I mean, like you're saying, uh, you made that great point about, uh, over the last three games and establishing that pattern of not allowing a lot of, uh, scoring from the other team. And I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm just something with you. I mean, you make great points. I have nothing to argue. I just think it's, it's hard to deny it. Um, he, I think, yeah, I think since he took taken over, it just seems like we were doing better. It seems like it took a week maybe to.
00:28:55
Speaker
for him to really establish what he wanted in the defensive scheme and you know especially with what he's had I just think he's doing good it's hard to I hate to admit it but you know you think it'll save his job though
00:29:12
Speaker
I don't know if it'll necessarily save his job in my dip. Again, depending on how the rest of the season goes, I think it might buy him some time. Yeah. You know, maybe maybe he does end up sticking around through next year. I don't think he's built to be a head coach. No, I don't. I think he I think obviously he is built to be a defensive coordinator. Yeah. I mean, he's so far he's shown that he has. But even even in a Chicago style with this particular. So it seems that regardless of the personnel package that he's got,
00:29:42
Speaker
He's able to. I would love to hear what some of the coaching is like from him. I'm willing to bet that he's honing in on like basics, right? On just the mental something about fundamentals, but also on top of that, probably something along the lines of like taking some complex piece that's in his defensive scheme and breaking it down to its simplest form and some type of like keyword or some type of repetitive word like over and over again.
00:30:09
Speaker
that the guys are just buying into, because the way that the defense seems to be finally kind of clicking. Now, and having some of the playmakers like stepping up and actually making plays finally, right? And consistently, like, you know, we've got Edmonds and Edwards out there that actually like,
00:30:26
Speaker
being a little bit more consistent with slightly more aggressive. And that has been was my complaint earlier on in the season was like too much reactionary football and not proactive, proactive, you know, anticipatory football. So I'm excited. That's one of the big, big positives I saw from here. Again, you know, we're going up against fucking Brian Hoyer like. Yeah, yeah.
00:30:54
Speaker
You have to take it with a grain of salt, but if anything, it's a good reps against like talking about Stevenson on, um, Devontae Adams, Devontae Adams, you know, like that's good experience for him. Like, even though the offense might be garbage, you're still going up against like an elite.
00:31:11
Speaker
Yeah, well, it's it's an improvement. I mean, it's an improvement to at least go and take care of business, you know, to not look like shit against a team that you shouldn't look like shit against, you know. So I think even that. Yeah, exactly. So I think even that, you know, it's an improvement. And I mean, I'll take it. We'll see. I mean, we'll see as the season goes on how how he was continues to do and see if he can save himself or I don't know. I wouldn't mind. I don't know. We'll see.
00:31:39
Speaker
We'll see. Maybe, uh, how would you feel about him getting moved over to like legitimately getting moved over to these, uh, defensive coordinator and bringing someone else? I think if they cut ties with Eberfluis or like after the season, they demoted him.
00:31:52
Speaker
I honestly wouldn't be opposed to keeping him as a defensive coordinator if this trend continues. If this keeps going. Yeah. You know what I mean? So again, I think we're obviously playing the what if game with very little information. Yeah. But it does seem that he's got something moving in the right direction again, and we're looking for that pattern. So now the question goes, OK, how long can we continue this pattern? Yeah. And is it going to work against better offenses? Right.
00:32:19
Speaker
And that will soon be found out. We do have the lines coming up eventually. Next week we have the Chargers, but the Chargers are fucking dog shit right now too though. The other issue that we had, I think on the defensive side of the ball especially, we got to be better with penalties. We more than doubled our pass interference penalties in this single game.
00:32:44
Speaker
A football field and some changes worth of penalty yards is not great. You don't want to see that. Now with that, it is indicative of a more aggressive play style, which is something that I think we need, especially with the young guys that we have who need more reps, who need more experience. Like, fuck it. Look, yeah, you know what? We're going to get called on some stuff. But as long as we keep stopping some things elsewhere, like
00:33:08
Speaker
I would rather have them get that aggressiveness and not that hesitation. Yeah, I do feel too, I mean, at least just from what I remember, it was a lot of penalties, but it didn't seem like a lot of them came at like key moments, like at bad times. Exactly. That's kind of like the place I'm looking at. That's a little asterisk of those. Those are still unacceptable, right? Yeah. So I think that we can agree that Ibifluis is absolutely
00:33:34
Speaker
Um, a positive influence thus far on the defensive side of the ball. But I think that it, it was running the defense holistically also clearly has been affected, especially when you look at, I don't know, something like clock management issues. Yeah.
00:33:53
Speaker
You know, that seemed to creep up. Yeah, that was. Yeah. And rear its ugly head, especially in this one, a little more. Yeah, very, very obvious in this one. So that's right. I think that and I don't necessarily think it's so much because he didn't know the right thing to do as much as like, I think you just.
00:34:15
Speaker
Wasn't wasn't locked in offensively, right? Like something was missing and You can tell that he knew he was like fuck. Yeah Shit so yeah, well, I mean it's not II especially at the NFL level I mean, it's got to be hard to manage especially when you're doing full play calling on defense and keep all those, you know and still keep your Mind like okay, we're offensively. Where are we at right now? You're probably thinking of the next coordinator do when the offense is on the field over there talking to your guys
00:34:41
Speaker
And planning for the next, yeah, the next stop and the next, you know, you're hitting it. If someone, if someone missed a coverage over there, like talking and like not just giving them a pointer, but like saying, Hey, new downs, new downs, you know, like you're, that's part of your job is to be over there and be the leader of that team of the defense. And like, well,
00:35:01
Speaker
It's hard to like keep your head fully invested on both sides of the ball. If you're supposed to be in charge of the defense, but then also like the one on the sideline, like calling time out, hoping with clock management and shit like that.
00:35:18
Speaker
So I think that in those situations, they maybe need a better game plan as far as not game plan, like the actual game itself, but more like the approach. Hey, his assistant is who's going to be over there like this is my right hand man when it comes down to the two minute time, like, you know, or even four minute time, whatever, like as we're getting towards the end of halves, especially I need to be locked in with what's going on on the field. This guy's going to be over here with you, you know, like, hmm.
00:35:46
Speaker
His word is my word. Simple as that. Yeah, something like that. And I think the defense has had enough of that upward swing that I hope that they will be receptive to that as well. And be like, oh no, we got it. We got you. Absolutely. We know what you want. We know what you would tell us. Yeah. And not have anyone be like, fuck you. You're not this. Yeah, sure. Yeah.
00:36:08
Speaker
Yeah, when we have enough veterans on defense too, that I think you should be able to take your hands up. So I'm hoping that that changes moving forward. Yeah. So that we can continue to see that, that positive progression without it affecting the other side of the ball. Yeah. Cause I mean, clock management is one of those little details that you just don't want to see your team fucking up. Like it's one of those easy little things that, you know, you should. And especially this past game, like that whole situation was one that was very obvious where the decisions should have been made there. So.
00:36:38
Speaker
All right. Uh, any final thoughts on the game? All in all, again, I think it was as well. It was, uh, what was, what was the phrase that Eberflu said? It was, uh,
00:36:49
Speaker
complimentary football. It was balanced. It was controlling the clock with the run game, efficient handling of the ball, efficient ball handling like your mom. And then on the defensive side, stopping the run, limiting lanes, it was good all in all.
00:37:16
Speaker
It was good. I think, again, yes, you are going up against one of the worst teams out there right now, but not. We also were the fucking Chicago Bears. Yeah, we are among that. We're among those. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you. Took care of business and you love to see it. All right. And with that, we move on into the NFC North vibe check with Isaac Turgeon. How you feeling, Isaac?
00:37:48
Speaker
not great in shambles um just you know the stages of grief it's yeah where are you at right next acceptance acceptance is there anything after that what comes after that that's it that's it that's the last one we are no then you started over again cycle
00:38:12
Speaker
You want to talk this package fan through what it's actually You think that's the level yeah, there are nine levels of hell bro You want to start with the With the kick in the balls or you want to go with the I'll start with the Vikings game because they just sealed the game Cool against Niners Vikings just won. Yeah Vikings just got an interception Wow
00:38:41
Speaker
Mother fuck. That's uh, did not think I was going to go that way. No, I did not. It was crazy because they finally won the turnover battle, which is what we've been saying all year. They're killing themselves with turnovers. And then you see what happens. They create turnovers rather than give them away force turnovers rather than rather than making the turnovers. And well, that's where they've been weak. Their defense has not been good. So.
00:39:10
Speaker
Very true. I mean, it's, the defense has been serviceable for the personnel, but the personnel can only take them so far. Kurt Cousins was pretty surgical. He was nine of 12 for 133 and two touchdowns on third down all night.
00:39:33
Speaker
So he was just kind of picking apart the Niners defense, which is crazy. Um, supposed to be a top level defense. And I mean, they are, but they've just been not playing up to par tonight, but that's about it. I haven't, I didn't watch the last two games. It's been a little rough. Yeah. I don't think the Browns game was that bad. I think it was more so their offense couldn't generate anything. I mean, especially with the injuries and stuff. Yeah.
00:39:59
Speaker
But yeah, Vikings win, uh, look solid. Pretty surprising. No one really called that. Yeah. Um, I can't really go into depth because I mean, it just happened. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that the Niners for sure. We're going to bounce back this week. Like that's, I mean, that's what you would expect from the way they've been playing, but, uh, what's his name? Jefferson back yet for the Vikings or Nope. No, no, no. IR is at a minimum four weeks. So he's only been on for two. Yeah.
00:40:27
Speaker
But yeah, the story of the night was the Vikings defense. I mean, just creating turnovers and holding the Niners offense. Good for them. So it looks like the Bears will not be the only team in the NFC North with a win this week. No. Goddamn Omar. Just were shit hog people. No, I just, it was looking like I thought that was going to, what do you mean?
00:40:49
Speaker
I was excited for that to happen. People are listening. They're not seeing. I saw the look in your eyes when you said that. I don't know. I don't know if I took a look in this game, but I was like, it felt like you were legit staring him down. Oh, no, no, I wasn't. I wasn't trying to. The only thing I could do is be honest and know if that's a win.
00:41:12
Speaker
No, I was it was looking like it might happen especially guys because like we were saying no one called the Vikings win in this game everyone thought the Niners gonna bounce back. So I Was I thought it would have been cool for the Bears to be you know, but Vikings out three and three wins for them three and four.
Vikings and Ravens Game Recaps
00:41:29
Speaker
Hey, they avoided their first
00:41:32
Speaker
Uh, Oh, one four star at home. They've never had one of those in franchise history. They were on the verge of that coming in with the Niners. I thought for sure the Niners had what it would take to handle that. So, um, no, that's good. I mean, Hey, good on them. Yeah. I mean, they got, they're going to be in Lambo next week. So should be an easy one for them. Should be 500 in no time. Um, you want to.
00:41:59
Speaker
Speaking of Lamble, you want to get into it or you want to hit the Ravens and Lions first? Oh, he's still the Ravens-Lions. Yeah, I feel like that. Yeah, let's go into that. That was a pretty interesting game. That was very interesting. He's in the avoidance stage. Yeah, he said it. So the Lions defense, we've been praising for a while that they've been good as hell. And they just... Hutchinson, especially. Yeah, they just fell flat on their ass. The Ravens made them look like dog shit. Just total shit. Yeah.
00:42:29
Speaker
Well, a defensive execution was terrible. I mean, the linebackers looked like their feet were in mud the entire time. They didn't know what to do because they were just, they didn't know to watch out for the run game or Lamar scrambling or Mark Andrews or Jay flowers, Odell. They didn't know what to fuck today. They just were lost. And I mean, by the time they even started moving was when the ball was already out because they didn't know, they didn't know what to expect. It kind of looked like they,
00:42:54
Speaker
Just had no clue who they're different. They didn't mind. Yeah. It reminded me very much of the Bears playing the Vikings the week before. Of like our offense trying to read their defense. Like our offense was like, I don't fucking know what's happening. Yeah. There's no reading. There's only waiting to see what happens. Right. The only person that didn't know what was going to happen was Goodsy. True. Yeah.
00:43:23
Speaker
Yeah, Lamar Jackson was 21 for 27 for 357 yards and three touchdowns. Yeah, I started him. So that was a good day. Dude, I was watching the the the recap and he just it was awesome. It's a watch. It was so cool. I don't know. That's my one issue with Lamar Jackson. This was like peak Lamar. But his his ceiling is so high. His floor is so fucking low.
00:43:47
Speaker
Is it? He does not perform. It's like eight points in fantasy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This was I was I was honestly surprised. I did not think it was going to be.
00:44:00
Speaker
No, I thought it was closer. Yeah. I took the lines more out of like, this would be interesting. This would be fun to see the lines like truly face a top top tier team team because we've been talking about that. Right. About like this golf. Golf suddenly looks like an elite quarterback. Yeah. Yeah. We're talking about the making that company. Yeah. OK, fine. Let's put them up against a top five defense and a top five offense and see what happens.
00:44:29
Speaker
You know, and, and, and this is, I think, do you think that that had much to do was that more on the personnel or was that on the game plan itself? Do you think that they just got out coached? No, I think it was personnel. I mean, the lions like to attack the middle of the field. That's their game. I mean, their game is.
00:44:51
Speaker
making their playmakers make plays. I mean, that's the whole thing is the yak and all that stuff, getting them on raw in open space and their playmakers open space and create. And the middle of the field just so happens to be where the Ravens are elite with Roquan and, um, Kyle Hamilton and, uh, Patrick Queen, who's having an amazing year so far.
00:45:14
Speaker
And they just fucking stacked. Yeah, it's insane. I mean, they made go right away. Yeah. Did you see I'm on rocket like fucking flipped when he was trying to block. He's trying to block. And the guy just sent him for a ride. That was crazy. I'm had. He was 13 of 19 for 102 yards. Yeah, he had a decent game, but I think it's most garbage time.
00:45:41
Speaker
The first half they got nothing. I mean, the goth got, he had no time. I mean, the Ravens D-line were just throwing a bunch of stunts at the O-line and they just had no answer. I mean, they kept doing these like TT stunts where the defensive tackle that like attacks the center with the nose tackle and they just didn't know what the fuck to do. I mean, that, that's what killed the first lion's drive.
00:46:08
Speaker
and they just couldn't, they couldn't get a first down at all. I mean, before they got their first, their initial first down, it was 21 to zero. Like. That's wild. That's tough. You can't take yourself out of that. I mean, you can, but it's very hard. Not against that, not against that defense and the offense clicking the way it was. Yeah. The Lions defense has been able to create a lot of pressure. And like you said last week when they played
00:46:37
Speaker
Mayfield, Mayfield look lost on the side. But then they go against an elite quarterback like Lamar with the poise that Lamar has. He doesn't get rattled. So with the pressure in his face, he did not care. Watching him, I mean, watching the O-line was really impressive. They held up so well. They held up so well. Yeah. Like, it was elastic. It was like watching a rubber band. And it was like, it would get so close to Jackson. And it was like, oh, it looks like someone's going to break through there. But they just never did.
00:47:05
Speaker
And even then they may would maybe like bump up against Lamar or get close to getting him. But before they could really even touch him, it was like he knew and then he would, the ball would just zip out. He'd just get rid of it and, you know, make a huge fucking like pass. Like it was, it was insane to watch. That was crazy to me. I don't know. He was, yeah.
00:47:24
Speaker
That one Agalor touchdown where he's just spinning and then finally gets out and just sitting there waiting, waiting. Those people are running out of him, sees Agalor get open and just throws a dime. It was so cool to watch. You just can't shake quarterbacks like that. I think they've been striving on being able to make quarterbacks uncomfortable.
00:47:44
Speaker
Um, but you just can't do that to lamar. He doesn't he doesn't really get phased. He's probably the most like Cool collected quarterback there is in the league. Absolutely Absolutely top like top three in that for sure. Yeah Yeah, I know they were talking about too. He's been doing a better job too of like with the scrambles keeping his eyes downfield Yeah, and not not just taking off. I think that fields fails at right now. Yes he
00:48:12
Speaker
when he goes to pull the ball. Hey, he keeps his eyes downfield too long before he decides before he's gone. He's doing. Yeah, he's kind of mixed up. Yeah. You kind of have to do those simultaneously. Yeah. It's okay to keep the eyes downfield. Yeah. No, you can definitely see that growth in Lamar here the last season and a half now, I think. Yeah. Especially. But yeah, it's this. And honestly, from a Ravens perspective, I got to say, I think like
00:48:36
Speaker
It's good. I think this was a good test for them because the Lions were fucking hot. Yeah, they were. They had something to prove. And, you know, the Ravens, I think have they've had some great games, but they've also had some ones that like.
00:48:50
Speaker
that they dropped the ball. You were clearly the better team and did not perform as well as you should have. So for them to go up against, I'm going to say that the Lions defense is still, they're not easy. They're still a top, I'll say a top 10 defense, but I think that was a good experience for both sides of the ball, for both teams. I'm very interested to see both of these towards the end of the season where they end up. I don't see the Lions collapsing after this.
00:49:21
Speaker
No, no and and I also don't see the Ravens taking a step back if anything I think the Ravens are starting to sort of pick up steam at the right time, you know, yeah But they also need to quell that a bit and make sure that they keep that consistent throughout the season and don't hit their peak too soon to where then they go in and get like ousted The Ravens biggest issue is getting in their own way and
00:49:47
Speaker
They have the makings of an elite team, a Super Bowl contender, and they easily can be if they play anywhere near what they did on Sunday. But they just fail to execute sometimes. And that's usually lies on their offense. Their defense has been consistently great, ever since they traded for Roquan, pretty much.
00:50:10
Speaker
Shocker. Yeah. You mean they had like a specifically, they went out and got it. That's crazy. Okay. But I don't even know if Roquan's been the best linebacker on that team so far. I think Patrick has just been having an insane year this year.
00:50:25
Speaker
I don't think it was necessarily brought in to be the best linebacker. I think he was brought in to fit their scheme in order to make them holistically as a defense, the best skill set was necessary in order to elevate the others around. Yeah, to that. That next point. Yeah. But I think that even if he's not a testament to him being great, he's going to. Oh, absolutely. It's the effect that he's got and the fact that he can commit. Yeah. No, it's I mean, he's a leader. Shout out to him. Yeah, absolutely. Like that's we enjoyed him in Chicago. Miss him not being there.
00:50:54
Speaker
Yeah, it's too bad. It didn't work out. The goth and James Williams' connection is still struggling, not hitting. I don't know if it's been James and Williams not being on the field as much, but he was 0-6 when targeting him, which
00:51:14
Speaker
If they can hit a stride together, that's going to, you know, upgrade the offense quite a bit to have that elite deep thread like that. Um, but to wrap it up, I'm not really worried about the lions in the short term. I mean, they're still comfortably up top, you know, the NFC North. Um, lots of teams don't have the personnel to exploit them like Baltimore did. Um, the only teams that do have the talent to exploit them.
Packers' Offensive Struggles
00:51:43
Speaker
are the teams are going to have to face late in the season to contend like the, you know, San Francisco and Philadelphia. But until then, those were the only people that came to mind. I was going through it and I was like, but yeah, teams don't, most teams don't have the personnel to exploit the lines like this. And, um, I think they'll be just fine. I think it's just a bad game and they didn't have Monty. So.
00:52:07
Speaker
Yeah, I think not that Monty would have fucking won on the game. Yeah, it's a level to the offensive. Yeah, something else. Yeah. You ready? Um, yeah. So my Instagram. All right. Take your time. We had, we had a bye week before this, right? We had 13 days.
00:52:39
Speaker
to scheme up an offensive game plan for the worst, statistically the worst defense in the entire league. And we got zero points in the first half and a hundred yards of offense on a team that is averaging 440.
00:52:59
Speaker
to be allowed on the defensive side. Hey, if you pulled out the Miami game, what is that? I don't give a shit because that is still yardage that they allowed that they just go past. They just let it happen. That's true. That is true. Yeah. Packers, they didn't get into the red zone until the third quarter. I saw. I mean, they spent self scouting and made zero adjustments or changes.
00:53:26
Speaker
There's obviously issues on the offensive line. Our left side, our left tackle has been a question mark ever since Bakhtiyari went out. They're not taking care of it. They still put it in Rashid Walker and he was just a revolving door all game. It's really ugly to watch at this point because there's no identity on offense at all. They don't know what the fuck they want to do. 20 of Jordan Love's 31 passes were under five yards.
00:53:55
Speaker
This guy is in his fourth year. Like, let him fucking sling it at least. And not with the game on the line. Let him sling it under five yards. 20 passes under five yards. That is...
00:54:11
Speaker
I didn't realize that. Expect those numbers. I was going to say, you expect that from Beijing. I'm literally just not looking at the stats and I'm like, I have, I have next gen stats up. And I'm like, comparing the two. I was like, wait, what?
00:54:28
Speaker
And I'm tired of people putting it on youth. That's such a lazy excuse at this point. It's obviously a coaching issue. 100% a coaching issue. What the fuck? We talked about that earlier in the season, right? You look at the Kansas City Chiefs. Look at what they did last year with the second youngest one in the NFL. Yeah. So don't tell me youth can't be the only thing. I keep positions, too, like youth at receivers and stuff. No, you're absolutely right. They can't use that. I feel for you, man.
00:54:58
Speaker
There's no consistency with anything or anyone. Finding a play where all 11 do their job and fulfill their assignment is such a rarity. They all just don't know what the fuck they're doing. Even the veterans on the line.
00:55:13
Speaker
are just letting up stupid shit. There's, uh, it does seem there's, there's one consistency. Like from watching, it seems like Jordan love really just consistently fucking slings that thing. Like he really is just like, I think he tries to go in hero mode. He just tries to send it. Like it's good. It's crazy. His longest pass in the first half, I think was like three area yards, like
00:55:38
Speaker
He's like, what the fuck? Like I have an arm, let me throw it. And he's just, then he tries to take his chance and then he's just not ready for it. He doesn't, he doesn't choose the right times to use his arm, to utilize his arm.
00:55:52
Speaker
Yeah, but I don't think that's 100% on him. I think no. I think the coach is not putting him in the position to. Yeah, it's probably telling like fucking send it on this play where we have to score or like, I mean, though the interception you had that was on the third, you know, third and 20 that they're like, OK, yeah, now you can just fucking say like at the end of the game, like when you need to like get a first down, let alone score, you need to keep the drive alive. That's when they're being like, OK, go ahead and just send it now instead of like, you know,
00:56:18
Speaker
building up that confidence earlier or doing it in situations where he actually has a chance to, you know, succeed. It's been, yeah, it's hard to watch. I mean, AJ Dillon was the lone bright spot. I mean, he led the team in receiving and rushing yards, which receiving yards wasn't hard to fucking lead the team in. We finally took a lead late, but the soft shell defense just allowed the Broncos to march down and take the lead right back. And we just couldn't, we weren't able to
00:56:48
Speaker
cut it at the end. Yeah. Russell Wilson continues, I think to, uh, I mean, just do his, just do his job kind of like, yeah, like he just continues to like, again, I'll say it like he's certainly not that elite level quarterback. He is, but he has been, he was for a good chunk of his career. So like, he still has it in him to win a game. And every week he just proves you more and more, right? It's honestly, like,
00:57:12
Speaker
Great call on your part, dude, because it's nuts to watch. They've already made that. They've already openly basically said that, like, he's not going to be the starter next. Oh, really? Really? Oh, yeah. Like, there's their reports coming out. Whoa. They're they're ready to move. Yeah, that's going to cost them, though, huh? Like pretty bad to the. But like at that point, you know, it's it's also like he's still like he's still out producing. Yeah. You know, a good chunk of people. So
00:57:41
Speaker
I'd forgotten for a bit that he, you remember when he almost came to the bears and I was excited about it. I think he would have dodged a bullet in her.
00:57:53
Speaker
Maybe. Maybe. I mean, you never know. At the time though, I mean, at the time he actually would have suited the Bears offensive style. And like having that, he would have bought us time and like having a veteran truly like, and not just a veteran, an elite veteran, right? The former elite veteran.
00:58:11
Speaker
Who knows what that, you know, to take it to that, what it takes that moves would have been completely different. I don't think would have gotten rid of near as many people. Yeah. As we did because we would have been like, it wouldn't have been a whole tear down and read. We have like, yeah. So yeah. Was that was that around the time that we were the same time that we ended up with like Dalton and then fields or was that before that or I just can't remember at the same time. I think. Yeah. If I remember right. Okay. I think. Yeah. Cause I kind of remember it being that same year, but I'm not a hundred percent.
00:58:42
Speaker
Jordan Love, I think, is being put in a super shitty situation. He was groomed by a guy for four years who did these high-level parts of the game consistently with success. But he had vet wide receivers to help him along. I mean, you see the fucking wide receiver group he had when he took over? He had Donald Driver, Greg Jennings, I mean, Michael Finley, Jordy Nelson. He had these people who knew how to make
00:59:11
Speaker
who had high football IQ. That's the one thing that the Packers always had in their receiving corps was people that knew how to manipulate defenses, how to adjust their routes accordingly, and knew what was going on. And so now Jordan- Since the mid 90s. Yeah, exactly. That has been a consistency in that wide receiver corps, regardless of what generation you're in. And so Jordan Love is trying to
00:59:34
Speaker
emulate these things he learned but he's got these super young wide receivers that have no experience of doing that and just don't know are just going by the book and don't know how to manipulate defenses or manipulate coverages and stuff like that or adjust routes or you know try and draw a PI or anything like that like they don't they don't have that experience so Jordan Love is trying to recreate these Aaron Rodgers type things with these young receivers and it's just
01:00:01
Speaker
It's not going to work. But I mean, he also has his backup against the wall from the jump. I mean, conservative play calling in the first half is leading to a dead last 32nd rank in the NFL at 4.3 points per game in the first half. I don't get how you're supposed to develop a quarterback who is just fighting from behind every fucking game. I mean, let alone win a game if you're not.
01:00:32
Speaker
That's they're really really relying on their games against the Bears this year Jordan love to pull a comeback out of his ass like By himself like single-handedly too because I mean like you're saying it's not like he has a lot of options to go to to get a lot of help You know, I mean he just has these young receivers. I think that's I Was a big supporter of having a young receiving corps but
01:01:01
Speaker
There's no number one. Nobody's emerging as the number one. It's a bunch of number twos trying to, you know, fight for targets. And that's, you know, that's what he's working with right now. And I think we're I think we're lacking a true number one right now, because I think I think love needs a safety blanket right now. I think he needs someone to look at if his reads fail. This guy's going to have my back. I'm just going to throw it his way and see if he can make a play at least. Yeah. And we just don't have that. I mean, looking like
01:01:31
Speaker
looking like us, like the Bears last year, but if Justin Fields didn't have legs, like. Yeah, I mean, it's because that was I mean, Fields didn't have. I mean, you know, you didn't have that true number one. And I mean, you could argue that maybe he did. He did have one or two solid guys that he could go to. But I feel like his solid go to receiver or like at least like, like comparably was like, I can run this fucking ball and get like, like that was what he went to. He didn't go to receiver, but he could consistently go and like,
01:02:00
Speaker
rely on his ability to run the ball and make something out of nothing in that way. 100%. But Jordan Love doesn't have either. He doesn't have the receivers or the legs. He has decent legs, but not to Justin Fields' extent. No, he can extend a play, but not to keep them in the game with just his legs like that. Justin's legs? What?
01:02:28
Speaker
You said just his legs. I thought you said Justin's. You can't just go steal the legs. It's not fair, Isaac. You can't just do that. The technology is not there yet. Of course, if anyone wants to do it first, it would be the NFL. But yeah, I've accepted that this is the team. I'm not expecting any changes as much as I hope they do. The only way we can get right is if we start
01:02:58
Speaker
executing better, I guess, but like, I don't know what the fuck that means. Um, this is who we are. What's, uh, what's the talk on Maliflora? Um, his job is safe. Really? There's no rumblings of firings or anything. I mean, the fans are starting to get antsy. The fans are starting to get restless with him because of these terrible offensive games. Um, but
01:03:28
Speaker
The Packers are like the Bears are not going to make. I guess I can't say that they did fire McCarthy in the middle of the year. I don't know what to expect. Yeah. Yeah, I. I would like to see changes in the offseason if nothing fixes, but I'm not expecting them. Yeah, because we. Have consistency.
01:03:54
Speaker
which bites us in the ass sometimes. We trust people too much for too long, and we don't know when to cut it off. And it's created problems, and I think it's creating problems right now. It's like being in an abusive relationship, 100%. I can change them.
01:04:19
Speaker
And the Packers are now like a get right opponent on the schedule. And yeah, that's what they're at. Wow. We are the captain now. I just don't see if we can't scheme up. If we can't win against the Broncos, who are we going to win against? That's what I'm.
01:04:40
Speaker
Raiders and the commanders tell you. The commanders and the raiders. We lost to the raiders. That was a Garoppolo-led raiders, right? Yes. Not that that's like a ton better. No, that's better than all of your. Garoppolo is 4-1 against Green Bay.
01:05:04
Speaker
Um, so if you want to, if you were interested on the Russell Wilson to Chicago trade, here's what ended up happening. Initially, rumors were that the Bears offered three first round picks, three, a third round pick and two starters for Wilson. Pace was able to negotiate that down to hang on just once. Yeah, they wanted a lot for him. They wanted they wanted more. He was able to negotiate that down. Hang on.
01:05:33
Speaker
That was what he negotiated down to, or that's what this... No, no. That's what it started out as. He was able to negotiate it down to... But he was able to get it down to a 2021 first round, 2022 first round, and a 2022 third round. So down from three first rounds and a third round and two starters down to just two first rounds.
01:05:58
Speaker
a third round and that's it. The thing is, so Wilson had put out a statement on like the four teams that he would be interested in and the Bears was one of them. The other three teams showed like basically like the interest that they showed was so little that it was like, okay, well the Bears and the only option. Conversations were had with everybody.
01:06:19
Speaker
Everybody, everybody signed off on it. The hurdles were all cleared. It was Wilson signed off, Schneider signed off, the ownership signed off. The last hurdle was Pete Carroll.
01:06:31
Speaker
Pete Carroll had being 70 years old, had veto power on all raster decisions. And he said, no, because I don't want to do a rebuild, basically. Whoa.
Bears' Decision-Making and Player Development
01:06:45
Speaker
And so that is why we did not get Russell Wilson that year, which landed us with Andy Dalton. Yeah. Three time Pro Bowl 10 year veteran Andy Dalton. Right. But again, Andy Dalton.
01:06:58
Speaker
from back when he was in the Bengals was halfway decent above average, but when he came to us, he was at the end of his career. I think everyone was ready for it too. Legendary backup, legendary Super Bowl leading back to Nick Foles. It's two veterans, but neither of them are going to be the franchise quarterback. At that point, then Pace was left with
01:07:25
Speaker
So first off, I just want to shout out to Pace for that was halfway decent negotiate. Yeah, no, that's great. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, OK, good for you, dude. That's actually solid. And then the next. So the big swing for him was was going to be the when Justin Fields fell out of the top 10. And so he traded up to number 11 to go and get him. But then, you know, that that was his big swing because Russell Wilson thing didn't work out.
01:07:55
Speaker
But then that came out to then we saw what happened after that right in this handling of a rookie showing like Nagy and sort of where his weaknesses were as a coach. And then Pace's roster construction overall was not great. So, you know, so then they were in the hot seat and then.
01:08:14
Speaker
Yeah, I don't even know if I want to say like shout out or thank you, Pete Carroll, because I just, I mean, who's to say how, I mean, I don't know. Yeah, that might've been better. Yeah, might've been better. Or Wilson would not have sort of had this downturn that he's had while he's been in Denver. Maybe Nagi would still be here. Who knows? Yeah, just crazy. I just think that's crazy. Definitely would have still been around at least for another year.
01:08:38
Speaker
Yeah, I just think that when I had forgotten about it, I think until a couple weeks ago, actually, I think until we went against the Broncos and I forgot to bring it up while we were talking about it on the pod. But yeah, and then I remembered I was like, oh my God, like what that's like a crazy what if to me is like, what if Russell Wilson had come to the Bears? I just think things would have been so much different for the Bears organization. Russell Wilson has 13 touchdowns this season and three, four interceptions.
01:09:06
Speaker
He's having a fucking business Like forget what the record is like from his perspective like he's he's doing his job. Yeah, you know Yeah, and I think he kind of has to battle keeping them in games. Yeah, he's having the battle. I think part of why he's Not getting as much credit or whatever. It's just he's just having a battle from what happened last year You know because I just think so poor last year But I mean he's he's taking care of it this year. So I
01:09:30
Speaker
I have something interesting. So I went, while you guys were talking, I went through Tyson Badgent scouting reports. Fuck yes. I want to hear that. This is all my to-do list for this week. I have not looked it up yet. Were you trying to see why they pulled him out? No, I've seen nothing about his arm strength other than just praising it. So live arm and can throw with velocity to all levels of the field.
01:09:56
Speaker
Badgent will be a project, but he should be a fun one with his natural ability as a passer. The first thing that pops on film is his live arm. He has great pop off the hand from all angles and platforms. He's a loose and fluid thrower who tried to manipulate the pocket in defensive backs with his pocket movement. He's a tough kid in the pocket, fearless of QB hits and will complete throws. He has the arm strength and size to play at the next level.
01:10:22
Speaker
quick, efficient release, capable of smooth, rhythmic footwork in pocket, poised and confident, making intermediate throws, plays with good feel for route concepts, and he's going to be facing a notable development curve as a D2 quarterback. So those are all the major ones that I took that were kind of interesting to me. Yeah. That was from the draft network and the NFL scouting.
01:10:51
Speaker
So I don't see why I'm straight. Yeah. Why are they worried about his arm? I feel like I'm going to go back to what I said about like the mental side. I think they were like, I mean, we don't give a shit. Oh, they didn't want to knock his confidence. Yeah. Yeah. Right. You know, so now, granted, you could argue the other side of, yeah, but if you don't let him take that shot, wouldn't that also? Yeah. You're also kind of heard his confidence. Yeah.
01:11:14
Speaker
And on the flip side, it's like, nah, just don't put them under that stress. Maybe he hasn't, maybe he hasn't, you know, when you're a starter, you have certain like routines that you go through with the practices and such. And even the backups will do some of those, but it's not usually to the extent that the starters do. So maybe it's more of a, there's no reason for him to take that shot downfield, like we need to keep his arm healthy. Probably gonna need him for more than one game.
01:11:40
Speaker
I saw an opinion that said maybe they didn't want him to get, you know, be susceptible to injury out there. But I don't know if that has. Because I mean, I get I mean, I don't know how much more susceptible you would have been on that play than any other one. Yeah. Other than just trying to buy time. Yeah. Move out of the pocket. Sure. I think that right there is where he would become the most susceptible, right? Is buying it with the time and someone taking a fucking shot on it. Because that football's a dirty sport. They would probably try and do that shit, too.
01:12:09
Speaker
Yeah, I just thought that was interesting, his little scouting tidbits. All right. I think that wraps up the NFC North vibe check, unless you guys got anything else you want to hit on. Nope. Cool.
Game Preview: Bears vs. Chargers
01:12:22
Speaker
All right. I think we can move now into the week eight preview. It's kind of crazy. It's kind of crazy that it's week eight already. It's going to be the Chicago Bears versus the Los Angeles Chargers. And I believe we are at Los Angeles, correct?
01:12:38
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Uh, what are you expecting from this game Stein? I think it's going to be a closer game than people might anticipate. I'm very surprised to have seen that the bears were nine point underdogs.
01:12:51
Speaker
You expected to do more? No, I expected far less considering, again, looking at the defensive side of the ball and what we've been able to string together in the last few games. The offensive side of the ball, obviously we've had our struggles, but, you know, and we have not strung together three consistent games yet on the offensive side. Yeah.
01:13:12
Speaker
Right. A win or loss doesn't matter. Looking at, you know, we had the two back to back with fields. One was a loss, one was a win and just could not execute that third one last week where it seems like we didn't have a fucking scheme ready against the Vikings. So but even with that, the Chargers are struggling. Their defense is not great. In fact, it's it's one of the worst against the run. And the Bears have shown that
01:13:39
Speaker
They've got a good run here. So if we can establish that, I think that would help. Is this Kalil Mac's first homecoming to play Chicago?
01:13:48
Speaker
Well, wouldn't be a homecoming because they're in Los Angeles. Well, I guess homecoming. I mean, like first, like, yeah, playing against. Yeah, I believe so. Yeah. So six sacks, three, four, some. Yeah, I'm scared. I was scared. You know, like he had a I don't think there's. Yeah. Towards towards Oakland for for a reason. I don't think he has that same. No. I think that that that separation was a little more amicable. Yeah. So
01:14:17
Speaker
But there's who else left that he played with like consistently, you know what I mean? Like, like we've had a rebuild. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, hell even on the offensive side, as far as like who he's going to be facing up against regularly. So, I mean, the wide receivers are all pretty much different.
01:14:36
Speaker
okay he will be going over the middle i guess so i mean you know i'll wind up on them but you know it's just a familiar face that he'll be seeing on the yeah so no i don't think there's going to be as much of that like i need i need to give it to him now granted he has that i need to give it to a mentality anyways all the time but that's why we love the level when it comes to open so um
01:15:03
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know. I personally, if this comes down to a lot that last week, I think that I left it on, you know, I said, fuck it. I'm going to call it bears take it, you know, and then it's going to take, you know, Oh, it gets, he's a fucking, he's going to jump on the page and wag. I'm going to call it again here. I think the bears take it. I think it's going to be closer. Um, uh, I don't think they're running away with it by any means. Uh, but I think if they show up consistently, let's see. And we, we lean into what we're good at, get the fucking run getting established.
01:15:31
Speaker
Don't make any changes on the front line. God damn it. Don't do it. It works. It worked. Keep doing it. Everyone's happy.
01:15:40
Speaker
And except for I think make a change. There's I saw there's one guy that I think like the left tackle or something. I forget his name. Did not have a good game last week, but. And that's a 10. So Larry Borm. Yeah, he was having a really poor game. Well, we've got people are coming off the IR that's coming. So, yeah, I mean, yeah, that's the only change. Make that change. Make that one. Yeah. We'll see how they switch it around. But as far as the scheme is concerned,
01:16:07
Speaker
keep the same game. Ground and pound with nice quick passes to spread the field a little bit. Give Beijing room to breathe. A little more breathing room with the run game as well. That automatically is going to help at least. Let's continue getting
01:16:27
Speaker
I would expect Deontay Forman to still be out there because, you know, Russian Johnson, if he can come back, we still need that too bad. And so for me, it's more like, don't rush it then. Like Deontay Forman is out there doing the fucking work as long as he's healthy. Because I know that there were some concerns about
01:16:48
Speaker
like a minor injury or something following yesterday. So, um, but like being able to, let's keep him out there. There's no rush. Yeah. Be fucking smart about this, you know? Um, yeah, if they can take the time, if they have the time and I mean, Roshan or not Roshan, um,
01:17:06
Speaker
Deontay Foreman has shown that he can take care of business and I think that he can give us the time to bridge back to Roshan Johnson and then eventually Cleo Herbert. So like you're saying, you don't have to rush. And even then though, I don't think that he should be forgotten. No, not at all. He's earned a right to be included in the game to this point and shown like, oh, fuck you. I mean, three TDs, two rushing, one receiving. Yes, you can absolutely be productive.
01:17:35
Speaker
It will be interesting to see if we can utilize, commit a little bit more against them. That would be fun. Oh.
01:17:49
Speaker
It always bums me out a little bit whenever, uh, combat and Mooney don't get anything. It makes me a little sad. I just saw, I just saw Isaac's note about the short to intermediate passes. Like while I was saying that, I was like, yeah, absolutely. That's kind of what I was getting. So now I will say again, the bears are nine point underdogs on the road in LA, but the chargers, their offense is lacking lately. Like they're very lackluster.
01:18:19
Speaker
I would take that cover. You would take the Bears to cover? 100%. Yeah, I would too. The Chargers have not been winning convincingly. No, not at all. And that's what I mean. I think that the Chargers and the fans are definitely looking at the chops at the Bears. We fit in that same boat. We just made that joke about we're a get right game.
01:18:41
Speaker
You know, I think people see us as a get right game. But ultimately, when you actually go through and look at like our games, there's only been one where it was like very clearly we were not going to win. And that was against Kansas. All the others like we've had true opportunity. Right. Now, the Green Bay game got out of hand, but it wasn't like that the entire, you know, and so it's like.
01:19:01
Speaker
We have opportunity. Yeah, that's a great opportunity is a great way to put it, the true opportunity. So for me, I absolutely take the bears to cover.
Betting Odds and Predictions
01:19:12
Speaker
I take the bears to win. So that's where I'm at. For a non betting man, what does that mean? Take the cover.
01:19:22
Speaker
So I'm the non betting man. I don't know. Basically what Vegas is saying is that the Chargers are going to win by nine points. Oh, okay. Okay. By at least nine points. So when you, when you betting us that based on like how much you put on that, like determines how much you get back. If the bears, if even if the bears were to lose, but to cover that, that nine point spread, right? Okay. So you're saying that the bears, they might lose, but they're not going to lose by nine. They'll lose by, okay. I gotcha. Yeah. Interesting. So I'm taking the bears to win it. Yeah. So just flat out.
01:19:54
Speaker
Both their wins have been by four points and seven points. So the Chargers to me and who was it? I just yeah. Yeah, I wanted to dig into because Yeah, I just felt like it was yeah, I don't know. I felt like it was uh, it's kind of falling flat now this thought but I just feel I was looking at the schedule and initially I was just like it's just kind of weird like because I felt like
01:20:17
Speaker
I mean, I was close with the Vikings, which I mean, the Vikings have shown that they're not as good, but I was like, but they're still talented. And then like, with the Raiders, it was close, like they won, but it was close. And I was like, the Raiders have shown themselves to be pretty bad. And then it was like, it was close with the Cowboys with the, you know, it was they lost the Cowboys, but it was still close. And it's like the Cowboys are also kind of, I mean, they're in a weird spot. And let's correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like they're not really
01:20:41
Speaker
super, super good. But it seems like they fuck up pretty. In the beginning, in the beginning, the Cowboys looked like they were super, super good. But that's because they were also playing like bad team. Okay, sure. For the most part. Yeah. I mean, like, so I was like, they're an average team that just looks really good. Yeah. And then the only one that's the Cowboys to a team. Yeah.
01:21:01
Speaker
But yeah, and then like similar to us the only one where there was like convincing like loss was like was against the Chiefs So I was just like looking at it and I was like man I feel like it's just kind of tough to assess where they're at actually But I mean like we have your leg like you guys like you guys seem like at least these past few games are not playing well and it's hard for them to get together but I
01:21:20
Speaker
Yeah, I don't have a run game. We have a great run defense. Her brother's not making consistent passes. Our defense is aggressive and flying around the field, which is fantastic. It's clearly working. That's the thing, though. I was in the middle here. It's hard to scout because the Chargers aren't playing to their potential. They aren't playing near their potential. Yeah, that's what I felt.
01:21:42
Speaker
I would say it's not necessarily hard to scout because they still have a pretty like a good chunk of their roster on the offensive side of the ball is like from last year as well. So I mean,
01:21:53
Speaker
We still have lots of game film on them at when they were executing very well last season versus the season when they're not. So so I mean, like we kind of have both. And that allows us to actually see not only what defensive schemes didn't work, but ones are working currently that are causing it, that are causing this, that are causing them problems, additional pressure that's causing like tough to read, like
01:22:17
Speaker
So that's something I'd be interested in is looking and seeing what other teams have done on the defensive side of the ball. I think it's going to be a decent game to watch. Yeah. I think it's just, it's tough to call, but yeah, I mean, no, it's not, not so far finished to say the bears can have a what's up. Okay. So now we have to ask the question though. Bears win. The agent goes out and shows out again. Now what?
01:22:44
Speaker
It's still the Chargers defense, which I mean personally I also just personally like I'm doing I mean Hypothetic, right? Like I think I think he's gonna freak out Bajan has an efficient game. He goes out and does his job. I want to throw out there He threw for 162 yards in this game. That is it. Okay high efficiency short one touchdown
01:23:07
Speaker
So like if he goes out and does the same stat line, we win again, you know, like controlling the ball, controlling the pace of the game throughout it on the road. If you're winning, you can't fuck with it. That's what I think. I think that's what the Niners did with Brock Purdy. They they, you know, they went with it and because they kept winning. And I think you can't you can't argue with, you know, wins. I just think it also I mean, yeah.
01:23:33
Speaker
It depends on what you want to, you know, do you want to just keep winning? I mean, I don't think we're, I don't think we're making playoffs. I mean, so do you want wins? Do you want to try and save your job? If you're Maddie recluse, do you, or do you want to assess what you have and finish, you know, seeing what you got with Justin Fields? So I just think it depends on what they want, you know? So that's where the way that fields is competitively, I absolutely see him trying to get into practice and trying to take some snaps and trying to like already. Yeah.
01:23:59
Speaker
prove that he can come back, you know, but I think that a conversation is going to have to be had of look. We you are a quarterback. That's it. But we need you to come back healthy so we can do a true evaluation. If you don't come back 100 percent. The evaluation that we're going to do is not going to be. You're not stacking the deck in your favor any further. You know what I mean? By coming back. So for me, I'm looking at it more of a.
01:24:26
Speaker
Obviously, Bajant does not suddenly become QB1, but that he is the starter until Fields is 100%. Let him come back fully healthy, kind of like a fresh start. Don't rush it. I mean, similar to the conversation that we were having about Yante Forman being that bridge, leaving Tyson Bajant to be that bridge back to Justin Fields.
01:24:52
Speaker
It's just it's tough. And I think I think fans, at least supporters of Justin Fields or at least anyone that wants to figure out what Justin Fields truly is, it's tough because you're kind of antsy, you know, and you don't
Evaluating Fields' Return and Game Strategies
01:25:02
Speaker
know. I mean, for me, it's like we don't know. I mean, we don't know who's he's. I think he is like it's not far fetched to say he's kind of on the chopping block. So it's like, I don't know. You kind of want it's like you get antsy because it's like, OK, well, I want to I want to just want us to know like for sure. Like, you know,
01:25:18
Speaker
where he's at and assess him and give him a fair assessment. And I don't know. I do. It's tough. But I'm not the one making the call. What's up, Isaac? From a game plan perspective, I think Bajan's going to be
01:25:35
Speaker
It's going to be easy for him to dink and dunk and, you know, when he's good at managing the game, he's great at that. And he's shown he's I mean, at least his past game, he's great at it. So I'm not going to say he is great at that. Oh, that that's game design. Yeah, I'm going to lean hard in game design. That's not him out there like now. I guess I mean, it's into the guys in the huddle was that he was reading the line very well and that he was like,
01:26:00
Speaker
Making changes and he wouldn't be, yeah, absolutely. That he was very good at reading defenses. His IQ seems to be pretty good. Um, like pretty, pretty, pretty high and advanced up there, especially for a guy, again, people want to keep saying, I keep saying it right. A D two quarterback. That doesn't mean that the intelligence isn't there. That doesn't mean that the IQ is not there. I am interested to see how patient holds up against. If the charges are able to create pressure with Bosa and Mac.
01:26:31
Speaker
If he can keep that poison that calm yeah, I think I think that'll be something to watch I think I'm just interested to see how he does in his second start because the first start people can you know go crazy, but then They'll drift off and I think if he can hold up it'll be interesting to see if he you know how he performs and
01:26:56
Speaker
I think a big, a big part of that's going to have to do with the game plan, too, though. You know, like if it's a lot of these short, quick passes, we already know that the exit velocity on his hand is so quick. Right. Like the way that he whips that ball out is it like that is very high up there. Right. So as long as a lot of the plays are designed continually in that in that regard. And we're again, establishing the run game is going to buy us that extra time, that extra beef that
01:27:25
Speaker
that half second hesitation on a defender, basically, that allows for those short plays to work. Plus just making sure that we're targeting our fucking playmakers again, right, to give them the opportunity. I mean, over 60 percent of our of our total yardage came on yards after catch. So that's we need that. We need to lean on that heavily, you know, so it's putting facilitating the opportunity of your of your playmakers is.
01:27:55
Speaker
I've, I've said that again and again this season, and I'm going to keep saying it, um, especially now without fields out there, without one of your primary playmakers out there. All right. That's it for the Chicago bears versus the Los Angeles chargers preview. And so now we move into the part where I say Stein, what do you have for the people?
01:28:18
Speaker
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Promotions and Personal Projects
01:28:39
Speaker
You can find us on Instagram and then also Real Jim Heroes on Instagram. Heroes ends with a Z because, you know,
01:28:47
Speaker
My name starts with Z. So I like to throw that in there. That's what I got. Isaac, what you got.
01:28:59
Speaker
uh this is off this is off he did this already right when he was trying to like get past this is off script what are you talking about i usually go last okay you can go last i was last time you said the the z last time you talked about the z and gym heroes you said because fucking why not i didn't make the connection of the z as in zachary
01:29:20
Speaker
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01:29:44
Speaker
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01:30:08
Speaker
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01:30:24
Speaker
Very cool. And it's like a hip-hop rap vibe, right? You got going? Yeah. Kind of like a boom-bappy vibe, I guess. Very cool. All right. We will be back next week. Same time, same channel. As always, thank you very much. If you're listening to this podcast, we really appreciate it. If you share it, we also very much appreciate it.
01:30:47
Speaker
We will see you next week. Chin up and bear down. I guess not chin up. Enjoy the win. Enjoy the dub. Hopefully we can get one this next week. Bear down. Fucking see you next week. Duh bears.