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Episode 7: The Chicago Bears vs the Kansas City Swifties
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In week four, after a long week of press conferences, resignations, and stolen lawn the Chicago Bears went against the defending Super Bowl champions. Unfortunately, it wasn't pretty for the Bears. This week the boys talk about the drama, the coaching, and recap the game before giving another NFC North vibe check and a quick preview of next weeks game. Chin up and Bear Down!
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Alan Williams' Resignation and Rumors
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello, and welcome to the Bearclaw podcast. I am your host Omar Delgado with me, Zachary Stein, also known as Stein, and also with me, Isaac Turjan, you Packers fan extraordinaire with a new mic, new setup I hear this week.
00:00:19
Speaker
It sounds good, dude. Yeah, it's been a pretty penny. I mean, it was like 70 bucks, but... I was expecting like at least like a 200 or something. It gets it done. Yeah. No cleanups from last week, I don't think. Unless you guys got anything. But all right, here we are to recap week three. It was the Chicago Bears versus the Kansas City Swifties.
00:00:51
Speaker
And leading up to it before we get into the game I think we're gonna talk because last week was a pretty crazy week for the Bears organization So we're just gonna hit real quick To start off on some of the things that happened and then we'll probably delve into them a little more later But first things first Alan Williams resigned last week there was a lot a lot of rumors going around there was people saying that I
00:01:13
Speaker
that the FBI had raided Alice Hall. People were saying that Peanut Tillman was part of the investigation, which we also learned that Peanut Tillman is apparently in the FBI. So yeah, there was just a lot of stuff going around. There wasn't really any, you know, any solid info on what was going on with that. I've seen a few tweets and some people with sources supposedly are saying that it's something pretty serious.
00:01:37
Speaker
Um, but I think they ended up coming out with an announcement saying that he was leaving for health reasons and to focus on his family and stuff like that. Well, that was his legal team that came out with that. I don't think that the bears leadership has actually like a hundred percent job dog board with that yet. Yeah. Because according to them at this point, they have confirmed that it was an HR issue.
00:01:59
Speaker
and what that had to do with, they still have yet to share with anybody. I think that that's going to fully depend on whether there are any type of criminal charges brought on or not. We'll see what happens with that whole thing, but it definitely was
00:02:20
Speaker
I think that was probably one of the things that took up a lot of their time and focus this last week within the organization across the board for the whole coaching staff, which is clearly going to have an effect on the team. And that's unfortunate when you've got a team that's just missing on everything. Yeah. Just adds on top of the big dumpster fire.
00:02:43
Speaker
Uh, so yeah, I mean, regardless of us not knowing the reasons why it seems like the bears organization has moved on already and that you've refused has taken over, uh, calling the defensive place. Uh, so yeah,
Justin Fields' Coaching Comments and Media Reaction
00:02:56
Speaker
I mean, I guess we'll find out or maybe we won't eventually what, what exactly happened, but for now he's out of here. So he refuses fully calling the defense right now. And he had a full week to, uh, call her to prepare this last game. He had a full week to prepare along with.
00:03:13
Speaker
a bunch of meetings within the organization to deal with everything that's going on. Plus, what was the other big issue that they had this week? Not the fields part, but the lawn equipment, right? Yeah, so they had $100,000 in lawn equipment stolen from Bears Field. That's just fucking why.
00:03:34
Speaker
It's just so random. Why is that? I don't know. Seems pretty random to me. I mean, it's still a problem. And I guess that's still a distraction too, although I can't imagine the players were too hurt or too worried about the lawn equipment.
00:03:49
Speaker
But yeah, and then you talked about the Fields drama, which we can talk about that real quick. That was just Fields basically, he came out and was saying in certain words that he felt like it was kind of like coaching that was, and he was getting too much information and this is not, and that was the reasons why he hasn't been able to do as well. And he feels like he hasn't been playing himself, like he's been playing more robotic and people kind of took that and ran with it. And the headline was Fields blames coaches for not being as good basically.
00:04:17
Speaker
Which I think was a little, I think that was unfair. I think that was taken out of context compared to when you actually listened to the what he said. Yeah, I agree.
00:04:28
Speaker
and the way in which he said it, because there wasn't any malice and it was not like, there wasn't even really frustration in it. It was literally just, it was like he was trying to think it through out loud, almost unfortunately use the press as like a whiteboard
Fields' Struggles with Coaching Strategies
00:04:40
Speaker
session. It's kind of like, or like a soundboard, you know, to kind of like brainstorm like, what the fuck is happening right now? And yeah, definitely the way that it was phrased was much more that I've been playing more robotic
00:04:56
Speaker
And I don't know if that's because of just, you know, some of the game plan or like, you know, what I'm being coached into and that he was referring towards like trying to stay in the pocket more trying to the whole thing in the off season was that they were going to be turning him into a traditional pocket passer. So I think I think that's kind of what he's referring to is it's making him robotic. And I'm like, I get that. You're going against your nature, your instinct.
00:05:23
Speaker
poor timing, maybe not the best place for you to say those words. Yeah. But yeah, I think at the end of the day, what he was trying to express was just I'm not playing like myself, you know, for whatever reason, I'm going to change that. And but the media took that and ran with it in a totally different direction. He actually ended up calling a press conference not too long after that to clarify and be like, guys,
00:05:45
Speaker
this is my fault i'm not blaming the coaches the coaches are fine like it's whatever like it's on me i need to play better which was uh pretty funny and then i don't know if you saw but they did a little um him and uh getzy hugged it out during practice in front of the cameras like on purpose they were like on the practice field and then they came up to each other and like looked at cameras and like hugged it out you know to kind of show that there was no uh ill will between the two of them um so yeah i mean that's that's pretty much pretty much it i just thought that whole thing was kind of ridiculous
00:06:13
Speaker
But what can you do? All right. So after that crazy week, it was probably crazy. Like what would you say? Like 48 hours at Alice Hall and for bears fans, it was kind of crazy longer than that longer. Yeah. Because every day something new was coming out about, about Williams and.
00:06:33
Speaker
It was like, I felt like the rumor mill, it was just taking us in all directions. Every day it was something different. It was like, Oh no, this didn't happen, but this happened. Oh, and by the way, like they did confirm that they FBI did not in fact raid Halis Hall. In fact, like no law enforcement had like done anything official at Halis Hall. So that was, that was a big thing. Cause that was one of the headlines too. It was like FBI raids Williams home and Halis Hall. That actually did not happen. So yeah, it was.
00:07:02
Speaker
I think it was literally almost every day. Yeah. So crazy week leading into a shitty game for the bears. How are you feeling right now? A day later. You're asking me how I'm asking
Criticism and Future of Fields with the Bears
00:07:17
Speaker
you. Nothing changed. Nothing at all changed. I'm my, my feeling.
00:07:25
Speaker
Uh, just being brutally honest, it feels like the organization specifically the coaching staff has given up on fields. It feels very reminiscent to me of Tim Tebow and the last couple of stops that he had.
00:07:41
Speaker
like he very clearly showed in what type of situations he could be successful and people seem to design schemes against the strengths and towards his weaknesses instead.
00:07:58
Speaker
100 people. We have two solid games already in this season to show, hey, maybe let fields cut loose a little bit. And we had like one run in like, what was it? The first possession I think that we had maybe the second, uh, where, you know, he took off and he, he ran up, he got first down. It was like, Oh, sweet. And I think that was the last first down we got for a while. And then he didn't do it again. And it's just,
00:08:20
Speaker
Clearly, the play calling did not change. There were fewer screens, but we were literally just running the ball straight up the middle. It just felt like they were not putting him. Nothing changed with the scheme. The offensive coordinator is...
00:08:40
Speaker
It blows my mind. At a certain point, I was pissed last week. This week, I'm beyond pissed to the point of, bro, what the fuck? Seriously, come on. It's all there. It's all there. You know what you can do. 13 games without a fucking win. Some of those very winnable games, there's no excuse for it. At this point,
00:09:05
Speaker
I will go back to what I said about Fields in the beginning. I felt so fucking bad for him when we drafted him. It just felt like, great, we're going to destroy another young kid's career. So far we have. That's exactly what is happening right now. Anybody that thinks otherwise, you can have your opinion, it's fucking wrong, but that's what's happening. He needs to go.
00:09:30
Speaker
He needs to get the fuck out of Chicago. I don't want him out because I don't like him. I feel it a lot. I want him out because I do like him, and I would love to see him actually be a force to be reckoned with in this league, but he needs to go and be with someone that can help develop him. He needs to go be in a system that's actually going to support him. I'm sorry, but the Chicago Bears have fucking failed miserably and dishonorably in the way that they've gone about it, and it pisses me off.
00:09:56
Speaker
How are you feeling? Um, not great. I just, I think I've lost all faith in this coaching staff. Um, I think I bought, it feels like when I bought into Nagi and I feel like I got fucking
00:10:14
Speaker
Bamboozled, uh, cause I mean, I just, I can't agree with you more. Nothing changed in yet a week. And I don't know how you look at what we've been doing and say, let's do that more. Um, except with a little less screens. Let's do that more. I don't, I don't get it. So.
00:10:34
Speaker
Speaking of more, they barely did it more. He had like what, like three, four catches and targeted maybe like, you know, maybe one more time than that. But yeah, I mean, I just, we are ruining Justin Fields and it's annoying too. I am really frustrated because
00:10:54
Speaker
I will continue to be an apologist for him and I just think that like I go online and see all these people being like Justin Field just sucks he's a bust it's this it's that it's his fault I don't think it's his fault and I think it's pretty obvious that like you said the Bears have failed him and have ruined yet another quarterback and if you think that uh tanking this season and getting Caleb Williams is a good route to go you're a fucking idiot because we're just gonna do the same thing to him so we cannot get a quarterback like you can't draft a quarterback no
00:11:24
Speaker
You have to get someone that's already developed and can come in and actually whip out their dick and be like, no, the offensive coordinator is fucking stupid. This is what we need to do. Yeah. Luke gets, he might be a double agent, honestly.
00:11:40
Speaker
For those of you that don't remember, it was Ligeti,
Packers' Comeback Against the Saints
00:11:43
Speaker
right? He came to us from the Packers. Yeah. So I think he's on a double agent mission. All right. So overall, I mean, that's how we're feeling. Just bad. This just sucks, dude. It just, we're just, it just sucks. This is not fun. I was really excited for this season and this is really hard to watch a game.
00:11:59
Speaker
It'd be one, yeah, to watch the whole, I mean, I was already checked out. It's so tough. And, you know, losing games is one thing, but losing games in the way that we're losing them. I mean, we lost 14 games last year and I was, I did not feel the way I feel right now losing three. They're getting outplayed on every side of the ball. Outplayed, outclassed, outcoached.
00:12:19
Speaker
just through and through. I mean, forget the players. It was like watching an SEC team play an out of conference team at the beginning of the season where they just blow them the fuck out of the water. But they're trying to give that little school like a little bit of national television time, you know, attention.
00:12:36
Speaker
That's what this fit felt like. It literally felt like they were out coach. Just look at the coaching staff on the sidelines. This is the difference. It's not just the teams. It's the coaching staff alone. You're like, oh, this is what a championship coaching staff fucking looks like. Yeah. Who were able to take, by the way, the Chiefs were the third youngest last year. Like snap wise, right? We talked about like how many snaps we had last year with like guys in their first year, second year. Then after that,
00:13:05
Speaker
I think it was Jacksonville. And then three was the Chiefs. And yet they won a fucking Super Bowl with it. So it just like goes to show. I do remember that story, that being the story a lot was just how, uh, how young, um, Holmes's weapons were last year. A lot of people on the offense and stuff. But yeah, I mean, they have a great coach and staff. Who's their OC? We should, we should, uh, get him to be head coach. Don't you think?
00:13:32
Speaker
For anyone that forgot, Matt Nagy is the offensive coordinator for the Kansas City Chiefs. Fucking wild. Yeah, but he also has to go through Andy Reed. And that's really where the power is. Let's not fucking pretend. Right. No, yeah. I mean, that's so we can dig into the Chiefs a little bit. I just think there's not a whole lot. I mean, I think they did what I kind of what we kind of I predicted. I don't remember if either of you guys predicted last last week where they just they got their offense to pop off.
00:14:02
Speaker
They were looking for a game where they could finally click together as a unit, and that was the game. 100%. They were like, you know what? This is a great practice squad for us to go up against. Some of the places we're calling to were exactly that, where it was just literally like, let's just try this shit out. They were like, we need to get some reps in. We only got to run this once at practice last. We definitely need to get a few more. Let's use it here. Let's use it. Let's plug it in.
00:14:29
Speaker
Just wild. My homes did not get touched all day. God damn. It was all day in the pocket and did whatever the hell he wanted. Did you see him like just when the pocket would kind of collapse on one side, just step up into it like it was nothing. Yeah. Just soups up, steps up, flings it, just done. He's like, yeah, no, it's cool. He didn't even really have to scramble that much, I feel like. God, no. There was almost no pressure again. It was...
00:14:56
Speaker
That was that was rough to watch dude and then and Pacheco Isaiah Pacheco just ran Over and whatever the fucking yards after contact was was what was blowing me away was just our failure to be able to bring him down I mean you just hit someone and run through them and then that would take another two to three guys to pile on there just to get him down It was it was crazy. I was legit concerned. I
00:15:19
Speaker
that we just watched the Dauphin score 70 points. I was legit concerned that she sort of like felt a challenge to that. Dude, watching the game too, I was like, fuck dude, there's still like 13 minutes left, dude. Like they could definitely like, we were at the Mercy cause I definitely think they could have put up 73 or more on as if they went, if they really wanted.
00:15:41
Speaker
Absolutely. We should be grateful that my home sat down. My homes did not come back. They put their second and third string guys out there for the last part of the game. That's just as a player, that is the most disrespectful. Not disrespectful, no. Honestly,
00:16:04
Speaker
Like from a coaching perspective, it's like, that's like a mercy. So from that perspective as a warrior, it's kind of like, like an honorable death. It is definitely like degrading. You're just like, yeah, fucking hell. This is ridiculous. And even then you're struggling, even then you barely can put up points on the board. Yeah. Oh, Jesus. Their defense did really well too. I mean, it was really good. Not that, not that they necessarily
00:16:34
Speaker
had a challenge, but yeah. The cornerbacks were like locked in for that game. Yeah. I was going to ask you, how do you felt about how you felt about their coverage? It seems to me like they did a really good job taking away more and Mooney and Claypool and just any options really. I love how many different looks they give to that defense is just fun to watch. Kind of like the Saints defense is very interesting in the box this year. Very interesting. But like all the different schemes that they'll come out with because they'll, they'll come up with like,
00:17:04
Speaker
You know, they've got the four man front and then they have a two man front where all of a sudden they have like five linebackers and you're like, what the fuck is happening? You know, I did like that. I thought that was pretty cool. Playing man, playing zone. They've got nice. They're just.
00:17:19
Speaker
They're just good. And you can tell that they're locking it in still. You can tell that this is what honing it in should be. We came into this season talking about the issue with our defense of not having seen all of them operating together yet and how excited they were to get all of them on the field so that they could start like gelling and really start getting exactly. And it's like, well, everyone's hurt and no one like that's just not happening.
00:17:45
Speaker
And I'm like, this is where I thought we would be with the defensive, like seeing them like, Oh, oh, clicking. Like things falling into place, you know, it was, um, or, you know, even on the offensive side, like hoping for things to start. And this was, it was like, this game for the chiefs is what I had hoped. Like we were, we were four would be for us is that like.
00:18:10
Speaker
Oh, things are finally clicking. So it was, it was hard to watch because I was like, God damn, like it's very interesting. And the chiefs are definitely good, but it's like, why can't we do some of that? Even like 10% of that gives something. Yeah. Uh, so they held the bears to one field goal and one touchdown.
Bears' Defensive Struggles and Criticism
00:18:30
Speaker
Good coverage. And I mean, yeah, they just did a great job of not only keeping the pressure on Fields and collapsing the pocket, but I just think they also did a good job for the most part of when Fields did try to run and use his legs. I think they did a really good job of
00:18:44
Speaker
of containing him. I think how'd you feel about him running? I mean, there was a couple of plays where he ran where I was like, that, that is, that's fields. That is what we want. That is what we should be doing. Why aren't we doing that? But I mean, it was only here and there. I don't, I mean, it just goes back to the thing with coaching where I don't understand why we aren't doing more of what more of that, you know, watching him run. There were only a couple of times where it didn't seem like he hesitated to do it.
00:19:09
Speaker
He just took off. And those are the ones where he was successful. Yeah. The ones where he didn't get a lot or maybe he just barely got back to the line of scrimmage or. I felt like he stuttered and not in a trying to outmaneuver the pressure, but more enough. Oh, fuck. Like, should I? Should I try to throw? Yeah. Yeah. Should I finish my progression? Should I go back? You can tell he's still fighting that. Yeah. Now, yeah, I guess we'll get into it with the offense. Yeah, we're just watching. They definitely were able to sort of do it.
00:19:40
Speaker
a good job containing him because I still think that he's hesitant to take off. Yeah. Any final thoughts on the Chiefs? No, I'm looking forward to see what they end up being at the end of the season. Yeah, I mean, they are already looking great. Okay, so that's the Chiefs. We're going to start digging into the Chicago Bears now. We're going to start with the Bears defense, which was not good. Overall, we're three games into the season and we have one sack.
00:20:10
Speaker
And that was against Green Bay. It does not feel like Chicago Bears football. It just doesn't. Nope. As I mentioned before, Mahomes had all day in the pocket. I mean, he could have been grilling stakes back there. He really just had all day and there was no pressure on him. I think I saw two. There wasn't.
00:20:29
Speaker
It was one of those things where it was like, there wasn't a lot of blitzes, but you know, some people were saying like, okay, but you can't really blitz against my homes. Cause that's when, you know, he kind of breaks out and he does good jobs or a good job against the blitz. But it's like, I mean, come on, we gotta get some sort of pressure on him or something. You have to create some type of pressure. And not just that, if you know that you're going to get like, you knew
00:20:46
Speaker
Let's face it, we knew that the Bears were not going to win this game, even if they were doing well. It was not going to happen, even with the defense. At that point, then maybe we should have used it as practice as well, of practicing against one of the greatest teams in the league right now. Go and try some shit and know that, yeah, we're probably going to fail on some stuff, but at least we can try it and see what it looks like at full fucking speed with the right people.
00:21:11
Speaker
Yeah, especially like labor blues. Like this is your first full week of preparation. Like you, you know, get, you know, iron some things out. You just came to, I don't know, do something more. Try something, but yeah, I guess it doesn't help. You know, we've got injury after injury again in this game, particularly in our secondary, especially in the secondary. Yeah. So at one point, all our top five backs were all out of the game at one point. And only, uh, Jaquan Brisker was the only one that came back in.
00:21:39
Speaker
still think he didn't have a great game. No, you know, good enough. But I mean, it's tough too, though. I mean, yeah, when you're the only top five guy out there, that's just unfortunate. I really I mean, we'll see. It's only the third game. But I mean, so I really thought that was this was going to be a strength of ours was our secondary. And I was looking forward to.
00:22:01
Speaker
Having a lot of takeaways and seeing them, you know flying around out there hitting people and getting yourself to but we've two takeaways two takeaways in three games one of which was in garbage time against a rookie quarterback, so I think the other one was Jackson Jackson born
00:22:24
Speaker
So real quick, just a stat for you. The Bears have allowed 25 plus points in 13 straight games, which ties the NFL record for 25 plus points. So that's the streak, right? Yeah. A streak of 13 games with 25 plus points. We're looking to break it next week, right? We're breaking records. And we're going to be breaking records this season. We're breaking records one way or another. Again, another record breaking season. I guess it's worth mentioning, too. No, it's not worth it. Maybe we'll talk about it or whatever. But any final thoughts on the defense?
00:22:53
Speaker
I'm very curious as to what the fuck the future is going to look like. Yeah, I don't. I can't imagine Eberflux is going to actually call the rest of the season. They have to get somebody in. Yeah, I don't think that they're going to promote from in-house because there's fucking nobody in-house that could that like has near enough background to do that. The only other thing that I could think is that now the Chicago Bears have never fired a coach mid-season.
00:23:18
Speaker
Yeah, but I also would not be opposed to him getting demoted So technically technically
00:23:34
Speaker
Yeah, I mean I just feel like our defense just looked soft and I mean our front four are just not getting anything done any concoct ways just been Basically silent except for when he almost except when he accidentally injured Patrick Mahomes ankle That's been about it. That's the only contact he's had with the quarterback It was a whoopsie. Yeah, it was an accident. So I don't know it's just soft it's just not I don't think there's any defensive coordinator out there that could come in and
00:24:05
Speaker
fix it just because the personnel is not there. Oh, really? Really? No, no. I mean, nobody's... I don't think anybody out there has enough... It doesn't matter at this point with experience. They would literally could come in and make it not suck a little less, but there's only so much that they could do with the personnel that they have. Now, I think that there are some out there that might have bigger balls on them to come and go, fuck it.
00:24:30
Speaker
call this season what it is at this point, it's fucking garbage. So we need to just be trying shit and see what works. And so you say because of personnel, you think because of injuries and stuff like that, or just because we don't have the talent on the roster? No, I think it's the personnel. First off, we're at the professional level. All of them are extremely talented, right? They're the top like sub 1% of athletes that can play this fucking sport.
00:24:53
Speaker
So they all have that potential. Even the ones that have low ratings, like when you go through the different rating systems that they use for all the different positions, they still have potential for growth. And the problem now though is you bring in a defensive coordinator, you have to learn a whole new scheme and he's going to move people around and get people in it.
00:25:13
Speaker
More reps in different places under this new scheme. It's gonna take a while before that that Potential growth actually takes place at all, right? Yeah, you kind of have to break it down and relearn things and then so yeah for the season itself I don't think anyone could come in and actually save the defense. Yeah fair Well, hopefully we can get healthy By at least midway through the season or something and then and then bring lovely Smith in
00:25:44
Speaker
That would be great. I think that's the one thing that could somewhat quell bears fans at this point, is to just bring back Lovey Smith. Like, people would be like a little less pissed right now. Immediately, you know, happening, though, is at some point, then rumors would start exactly what I just said of Iberiflu's getting demoted to be as if that's what you think. Like, yeah. Like, promote what? Yeah. Switch them around. Like, if we're going to fuck this season up, why don't we do it with a friendly face? Oh, I miss Lovey.
00:26:13
Speaker
Yeah, Isaac, maybe you can look up the stat. Our win percentage has been like God awful, basically, since we fired Lovey Smith. I think it's been really bad. I mean, his last season wasn't great. You know, his last couple of seasons were rough, just but we also got rid of a shit ton of people. So yeah, it was the I think we've had like two decent years and one was I think one, both were with Fox or one was with Fox, one was with Maggie. Right.
00:26:37
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, that has to be it because I think we won the NFC North twice since lovely left. I want to say, and you got any more in the defense. I think that it's just, yeah, I mean either. Uh, all right. Let's, uh, let's dig into the offense, which is not much better.
00:27:00
Speaker
When the first bullet point for each of those is not great, we need to get some sound clips that you drop in right there. It was not great. We're like fucking amazing. I don't think I'll make the fucking amazing sound bite until we win a game. It wouldn't be used for us. It would not be used for us. This would be like, for the Chiefs, what do you think of the Chiefs? They're fucking amazing.
00:27:29
Speaker
Big thing, and Nate Davis is still out. He was active, but he wasn't playing. Jesus Christ. I would kill him. Only one winning record season. But. All right, so we just got the stat. The Bears fired Lovey Smith when the team went 10 and six and 11 seasons later, the Bears have only had one winning record season since then. I could have sworn we won the North twice since then, although we did have the one where we won eight and eight.
00:27:58
Speaker
Yeah, that's what it was. That's why. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That was a fucking wild season. That one was crazy. I would kill it to go 10 and six. I would kill to go eight and eight right now. Oh man. That's crazy. Oh yeah. So Nate Davis is out. He was, he was there. He was dressed. He's active, but he's not playing. Um, what are your opinions on that? Cause I think it's,
00:28:28
Speaker
This was the last week I give him, I think. What were your, what are your opinions on him being dressed on the sideline, but not playing?
00:28:36
Speaker
Uh, I mean, I wasn't too upset about it. I mean, maybe he's just, maybe he feels he's not mentally ready. You know, maybe he wants to be there to support the team and show face. Um, maybe the coaches aren't letting him, but I feel like if he's not mentally ready to go, I mean, even if he's, it sounds like he's had a pretty rough situation. So
00:28:58
Speaker
I just think the situation aside, the situation has to do with his mom. Yeah. And like so situation aside. Yeah. But aside, we are paying him what, 19 million. So here's the deal. You're not
Nate Davis' Inactivity and Coaching Questions
00:29:14
Speaker
ready. Totally fine. Totally understandable. Yes, absolutely. However.
00:29:20
Speaker
then you should not be dressing. You should not be taking up a spot where we could bring someone else in. You only get to dress 45 people on game day. So being dressed, we're paying you $19 million, $17 million, $19 million, whatever. Whatever it is. Fucking more than I'll ever make in my lifetime. Then take the time that you need to do what you need to do, but get the fuck off the field.
00:29:45
Speaker
I get the want to be there of like, I want to go to work and I don't want to have to, I need to not think about this and be like, really? You want to watch this ass whooping instead? Sure. But I don't know. To me, we could have used someone else out there giving another guy a shot, giving another guy some, some time, you know, so, uh, and instead, you know, he took up a dress spot and stood on the sidelines. Yeah. So for me, I was kind of, I was a little frustrated with that.
00:30:15
Speaker
I can get that. That I think is a coaching decision. I don't think that's on Nate Davis himself. As a player, I understand him wanting to be there. I do. But as an organization, from the coaching perspective, I think that they needed to make a fucking call and be like, look, we're in a position, unfortunately, that we need to see what we've got available because this is getting a little ridiculous.
00:30:38
Speaker
Yeah, I mean I see where you're coming from and I guess that's that's more with the frustration directed more towards the coaches I think Yeah, cuz I was gonna say I don't blame Nate Davis at all My frustration is is a hundred percent has to do with the principal behind behind it Yeah, you're one of our most expensive pieces if you need to take the time then take the fucking time Yeah, and the coaches are the ones that need to like abide by that and be like look dude. We would love to have you here
00:31:08
Speaker
But if you're not going to play, don't dress. Exactly. Yeah. Because that's fair. Yeah, I agree with you. Someone else. And they are the ones that need to make that call. And again, it's kind of like adding to the frustration of this coaching staff across the board. Yeah. Yeah. It's very frustrating. Yeah, another log on the fire. Again, nothing towards Nate Davis himself, like 100%. Yeah, I totally agree with you. I agree with you then, yeah.
00:31:35
Speaker
So I wanted to hit on the time of possession just because, I mean, so at the end of the game, the Chiefs had had the ball for 36 minutes and 13 seconds, and the Bears had it for 23 minutes and 47 seconds, which is a pretty wide gap. And going into the half, I couldn't believe we had it that long, actually. It did not feel that. I felt like a lot less. Yeah.
00:32:01
Speaker
And then throughout the game, the Chiefs had 31 first downs, and the Bears only had 11 first downs. Boy, the Bears are really good at giving up first downs. The Bears are really good at giving up first downs on third downs. What's the stat on us giving up first downs on third? Isn't it like 58% or something like that? Jesus Christ.
00:32:28
Speaker
Yeah, bears are giving up their down conversions on 60% of attempts. That's wild. We get 31 first downs to the Chiefs. They could have been Miamiing the shit out of us. Yeah. Chose not to. Yeah. Good on them. Thank you. The run game was non-existent. Hardly any carries. And we had time. It was still close going into the second quarter, I think. So we could have maybe tried to establish a run game.
00:32:56
Speaker
hardly any carries for Roshan Johnson or Khalil Herbert and then I earlier in the week uh with some someone on the bear staff was quoting it quoted as saying that they were gonna there was gonna be a lot more design runs for uh Justin Fields and I just I didn't see them except for there was like maybe four or something in a row or that it was like every other play where it felt like they were like
00:33:21
Speaker
Oh shit, we told people we were going to do design runs. Let's get design runs in here so that we can be like, we tried to. That's where I like, I like to know of, of like, it's enough for them to say that they tried, but it, but it still isn't, it still isn't like you need to be carrying at least 10 times a game designed, not, not scrambling. Like, yeah, not including 10 times minimum.
00:33:49
Speaker
Yeah, and I mean, I don't know. We've gone on about, we raved on about Roshan Johnson. And I really like Kaleel Herbert too. Like we have a good, I don't know why we haven't been able to get the run game established. It's something that should be a strength of ours, but we're just not.
00:34:04
Speaker
Not utilizing it. Well, again, I think so, you know, we talked last week about the fact that the offensive line gave him plenty of time and he was holding it too long. Like so they they stepped up and and did their job like they were supposed to. And yet still he was sacked one six times last week. So like, you know, it's in that there comes a point as an offensive lineman that you you can't do anything further that you literally like
00:34:31
Speaker
The longer the time goes on after the snap before the whistle, it is like the closer, the longer that time span takes place, the less an offensive lineman can accomplish. It's just like exponentially so. For me, I didn't think that the line was terrible in this game again. No, I didn't think it was bad. It just was bad plays and bad execution and be like,
00:35:00
Speaker
bad design, again, why are we not running it a little bit more? And if we do run it, why is it the same fucking play every time? Having Herbert go off the right guard is just like over and over and over again. Come on, man. Shake things up a little bit.
Fields' Performance and Game Management Issues
00:35:18
Speaker
Granted, I mean, was it the defensive lineman for Kansas City that was back for this game? Chris Jones. Chris Jones, yes, he was back for this game.
00:35:29
Speaker
And like, I mean, he's a fucking, I get why they may not have gone to the left a whole lot, but like, but damn. Yeah, it just, that was a little frustrating.
00:35:40
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, moving on from run the run game and talk a little bit about the passing DJ more had a, had a pass that hit him right in the numbers and he just dropped it. And, uh, in the same vein of like Kim having dropped when he also had a really good catch for a touchdown. Um, but it's ridiculous that it's week three and that was the first touchdown that he's had as a bear. Yeah. Blows my mind that it was week three for that to happen.
00:36:05
Speaker
Yep. Uh, he was supposed to be, I mean, we got him so that fields could go to him and he was going to be our biggest weapon. And I mean, as he even had more than 30 targets, like in these past nowhere near it. Yeah. Yep. I, I don't think he's had 20.
00:36:25
Speaker
Yeah. Not good. Going into the fourth quarter between Claypool and DJ Moore, there was seven targets and one catch between the two of them. Of those seven targets, how many of them are Claypool and how many of them are Moore? Is it like a six and one scenario? No, I think it's got to be like a four and three because I think Moore was targeted like three or four times or something. Was that bad throwing? Was it bad route running? Was it bad hands? Was it good defense? Like what?
00:36:54
Speaker
Why is that? Those are supposed to be our one too, right? It's just, I mean, I don't know, it's tough to say. Maybe I'm hesitant to blame Justin Fields, but I don't think it's entirely bad passing. I think he has had a couple of solid passes. He's had more than a few over the last few games, like where he'll throw into tight coverage. It's like a perfect spiral. The precision is right there. Just great placement. But then the receiver doesn't execute.
00:37:22
Speaker
But then we've also seen some real shit throws too. So for every good one, there's been a bad one. So it's wildly inconsistent across the board. So speaking of Justin Fields, he had a few good plays. Like you mentioned, he had a few really good passes. And he made some really good runs and stuff for first downs. And he was starting to look like his old self in those plays. But I noticed, especially in the first half,
00:37:47
Speaker
He was really letting that play clock wind down. And I think at one point it got him. I think it was going into, it was ending the second quarter where he, we got a penalty for delay. Well, it's also, it's a lot of shit there. And it looked like it was loud. I think that was a big issue. Yeah. They weren't able to. Yeah.
00:38:03
Speaker
to, that's why they always have, you know, he pulls up the knee and then the right guards watching and then taps the center on the knee to let him know. And it just, it seemed like that some every now and then that was not happening. Like it should have been. So yeah. Yeah. So I don't know if that was as much by design on his end, you know, or, or choice or anything like, honestly, he did fairly well with it, considering how loud arrowhead is like just.
00:38:27
Speaker
Yeah, I was with the play clock clock thing too. I was wondering when you got to keep my home. Yeah, you do. Yeah. But I was wondering if you thought he was maybe Justin Fields changing some plays or if you just think it was more. No, I don't think it was changing plays. I know he's not. He is not confident enough to be himself as a football player to follow his strengths. He sure shit isn't confident enough to be out there changing the plays right now. Yeah.
00:38:58
Speaker
I'm willing to bet that the voice in his helmet is ... I guarantee that's a big no-no. That's not happening. No, I think that that was ... Initially, it was by design. The longer that you can control the ball and keep it out of the hands of the homes, the closer you're going to keep that game. That's the standard playbook against the Chiefs. It's the same way that they treated Brady. It's the same way they treated Rogers.
00:39:26
Speaker
don't give him the ball. The longer he's standing on that sideline, the better.
00:39:32
Speaker
I wanted to talk to you about, um, while we're on Justin Fields. I think this ties back into the coaching decisions. Uh, at one point Justin Fields took a, like a really hard shot to the head. He gets back up. He's stumbling around. Doesn't really look like he knows what direction he's going. Thank God. We have DJ Moore on the field because DJ Moore went over to him, grabbed him by, you know, grabbed him by the Jersey and was calling coaches in and got him off the field. And then talk about like,
00:40:01
Speaker
football like you talk about field awareness because field awareness. Absolutely. But literally like to actually, and it was between plays. Yeah. And more to me at that literally to me, that's the play of the game right there. Yeah. I think he saved fields.
00:40:19
Speaker
Not for long. Not for long because shortly after that, we sent him right back in. That's what I mean. Down 38 points. But did he? Yeah. Because he had left him, I think he would have ended up going into the concussion protocol just based on behavior alone. Yeah. More was able to stop him and get him off the field and they cleared him. I do not have faith in the NFL.
00:40:49
Speaker
and and their Willingness, well, I mean their willingness to call concussions a concussion because I don't think they lack the ability but I think they certainly lack the desire or the incentive to To call a concussion a concussion eg two. I mean that That is the hottest thing still of how
00:41:14
Speaker
poorly the league and the team at the time, but the league itself in general did with handling what was clearly a concussion. When I'm standing, when I'm watching a fucking game and I can go, that dude's fucked up. You got to take care of that. On the field, you should know.
00:41:40
Speaker
The idea that they put him in when we were down by 38 points is fucking insane. And that right there tells me.
00:41:49
Speaker
That's what I mean by my frustration. You asked how I felt. I feel like the Bears, I feel like the coaching staff has given up on fields. That right there was the nail in the coffin for me. The fact that they sent this kid back out there when 100%, he was not 100%. He wasn't, no. I mean, I just think this segue is really good into our next thing here. It was just like,
00:42:15
Speaker
I didn't know what else to put you're just like, what the fuck do we do? Like, I mean, obviously as fans, you know, we can't make any calls or anything, but as an organization, like what the fuck do the bears even do? We're in a 13 game losing streak. We're about, we're coming into October, October of last year was the last time we won a game.
00:42:35
Speaker
So unless something happens, something good happens, we're going to be coming up on a year without winning an NFL game. The last two seasons combined under Matt Yves-Fluis, we are 30 second in pressure rate, 30 second in pressure rate with a four man rush, 30 second in yards conceded per coverage snap. So we're last in all those metrics under a coach who is supposed to be defensive minded.
00:43:03
Speaker
while also giving up 60%. I said third down conversions. So giving up third down conversions on 60% of attempts that we have. Can you guess what place that is in? Can you guess what place that team that's in? First. We're first. We're giving up the most. We're giving up the most. Yeah. Yes. Number one, baby. So I mean, just again, what the fuck are we going to do? According to Matt Immerfluis, what we're going to do is we're going to focus.
00:43:33
Speaker
Isaac, what were you going to say there? Oh, no, I was just going to say I gave up the most last year too. But this is like a defensive minded head coach plus some of the biggest defensive salaries they've given out or contracts in the last like two years. I think they've given out like five of the six biggest defensive contracts in the last two years. So I think we know what the answer is.
00:44:03
Speaker
What's that? Would you get rid of Eva Flus? You think they'll do that? I think they need to. Do I think they'll do that? I think they need to do a lot of things. If this continues on throughout the season, he's going to be gone after this season. I think if the things continue this season, he's 100% going to be done after this season. I would love to see him gone sooner because right there, we've got two seasons under Matt Eva Flus.
00:44:27
Speaker
defensive minded my ass. There is zero, I'm a data guy. There's zero data to prove that. None at all, right? Right there, not with my organization, there isn't. Like, you talk about the Colts all you want, you talk about where you came from all you want. That's
00:44:42
Speaker
That's fucking fine, but clearly not here. Yeah. Yeah. And I think this was, I mean, this year is perfect to like, you have no excuses, you know, make all excuses you want for last year. We, I mean, like Isaac just said, we've spent a lot. I'm sure that those contracts and all this stuff that we've shelled out was probably a lot of it was from this year. So we were supposed to help, right? Like that's the whole thing. Last year, this defense was God awful. Yeah.
00:45:07
Speaker
All the moves that we made on the defensive side of the ball in the offseason, we're supposed to help some like raise that. Yeah. That floor should have come up so that we're not 30 seconds and all this shit anymore. That's why we went out and got some like veteran players who are still in their prime playing years. But and and they have been silent now. Again, and I don't think that that's necessarily a talent issue. I think that's a scheme issue. I think that that is literally just like
00:45:37
Speaker
I think it's, I'm coming down to coaching at this point. Yeah. Field said it once. And then he's, you know, obviously in certain contexts, right? Yeah. But it's that kernels in there for a reason. Yeah. I'm willing to bet he's not the only one that believes it. Yeah. I would be fine with getting rid of Matt, you refuse mid season.
00:45:58
Speaker
Um, I'd be fine if they announced tomorrow tomorrow. Let's do it because I'm not sold them. I'm, I'm bought out. I'm not on, you know, these guys anymore. I don't trust his coaching staff. Hell, even if polls stepped in and was like, fuck it, I'm going to, I'm going to come in. I'll, I'll be the dude that was coordinated. Why not? Uh, go for it, man. What do you think we do with fields?
Discussion on Fields' Career Prospects
00:46:25
Speaker
I think you have a real talk with Gatsy and tell him to get his head out of his fucking ass and show the world what this kid can do. You build a system to his strengths and you lean into those hard, no hesitation. Give him your 100% support so that you can build up his trade value and then
00:46:56
Speaker
Get him out. He needs to go somewhere. And he needs to go somewhere that can help develop. He needs to go to the fucking Ravens. He can go sit behind.
00:47:07
Speaker
Lamar Lamar and and like get some tips on how to be part of a real offense. He can he could go to the fucking Eagles and be a backup like behind Hertz. I think that him and Hertz are right about the same level. Honestly, I think the big difference there that you see between the two of them is.
00:47:26
Speaker
one who's in a system that fully supports him and leans into strengths and gives him everything that he needs. And they're like, we are 100% in on you. No matter what, we're 100% in on you. And that versus Fields who is in an organization that
00:47:46
Speaker
that he had one or two people who are 100% in on him. Players seem to be in on him, but the majority of the coaching staff is not. At that point, it's like then the game plan is not going to be on you and they're not going to call to plays that are going to help facilitate your growth and development. You're going to lose confidence and you're going to lose step and your career's going to go down the fucking shitter, just like the majority of Chicago Bears quarterbacks.
00:48:12
Speaker
So I just, that's what we do. I think you lean into him hard for the rest of the season, make him look good again, because he is, he definitely has plenty of strengths out there, but then make him look appetizing to some other teams who maybe they have like a Josh McDaniels who wants to, you know, bring on that quarterback that he can, that he can fully utilize. So I don't know. Yeah, it hurts. That's my thought. It hurts a lot, but I, I,
00:48:45
Speaker
I don't want fields here anymore because it's not because of I don't think he's good or because whatever, but I just I mean I think he deserves more.
00:48:54
Speaker
Absolutely. He deserves more. He never should have been drafted by the Bears in the first place that fucked him immediately Yeah, but I still I feel the same about him the way that I did about like the core crew from the Chicago Cubs that won the series, right? Which was that once the family Basically turned their backs on the fans and started trading off for bullshit trades it it
00:49:18
Speaker
At the end of the day, I love the players, and I want them, regardless of who they go to play for, even if they end up with the fucking Yankees. If I want them to wear the goddamn Cardinals, I still want them to be successful, because I love watching them play.
00:49:39
Speaker
reinvigorated my love of baseball because of their love of baseball was so clear. And that's kind of the thing that I hope for with people that I lock into. And I really like fields and I liked them in college. And that's one of the reasons I was so disappointed that we got it. I'm just like, no. Don't ruin him. This kid's future.
00:50:02
Speaker
So when I'm saying this, that he needs to go, it's not against him. It is all a hundred percent in support of him. Get the fuck out, bro. Get out. We have the rest of the season to speculate about what the bears should do or shouldn't do for the rest of the season or the off season. So instead of taking up more time doing that, we're going to go into everybody's favorite segment, the NFC North vibe check.
00:50:28
Speaker
with north north to find chat turgid what do you got for us this week buddy uh not much boring week to be honest yeah well it looks like the nfc generally did better than than last week yeah i went back and watched all the games i watched that packer's fourth quarter a few times had uh
00:50:55
Speaker
Go back and enjoy that a few times the Vikings continue to just give up turnovers and That's what's killing them right now and also Kirk cousins can't perform in clutch situations and Like I said earlier, she's kind of a swing back from last year. I mean this is just not the same team they were last year last year they were able they were able to pull out these close wins and this year they're not able to I mean they had
00:51:24
Speaker
10 attempts, 10 plays in the red zone to take the lead and they weren't able to punch it in at all. But I think last year the Vikings would have been able to pull that out. I think it's just, I don't know if it's play calling or just Kirk getting older, but it's not looking as clutch as it was last year. It's kind of fallen the other way, the close games. Yeah.
00:51:51
Speaker
You know, we were mentioning earlier that holistically on the season cousins leads and and Jefferson leads and then their defense is Leading in sacks and yet they're still 0 and 3 and that's just insane. Yeah It's the same issues from the last few weeks. They just turn it over and They've had every opportunity the last three weeks every
00:52:17
Speaker
Did you watch the final sequence of the game? Yeah. I mean, they wasted like 20 seconds because he just said he couldn't hear the play. But I'm like, dude, you're 35 years old. Fucking you're going. And like the numbers over the last 10 years would show that you are one of the top quarterbacks in the league. Like you should have that. Make a fucking call, you know, or at least spike it or something. Do something. Yeah. I'll go talk to O'Connell, get a call in. Yeah.
00:52:48
Speaker
Yeah, it's just it proves why he'll never be one of the top ones, just because when it's got to have it situations, he just folds like pretty easily. But I mean, the Chargers absolutely fucking dunked on him. I mean, Kenan Allen had 18 catches for like 200 yards. Herbert had a. Crazy game, 40 or 47 for 400 yards. That kid is going to be something for sure. I mean, like watching him plays
00:53:16
Speaker
it's fun to watch him. That charges him. They remind me very much of the Bill's Josh Allen's first year or two, where it was like, there's something special there. It's just waiting for all the pieces to either fall into place or for them to get the pieces they're missing still. I don't think that they're quite there to be atop contender yet just because
00:53:39
Speaker
They clearly give up a lot of points still on the defensive side of the ball. Their defense is not 100%. They give up good yardage. I think their secondary is one of the worst ones in the league. I think it is the worst. I think it would be. Really? Not Denver anymore. It's Denver now probably. You're like, are you sure? Yeah.
00:54:06
Speaker
I think the Chargers, I think Herbert even started at a higher floor than Josh Allen, because Herbert, he won like rookie of the year or something like that. Oh yeah. I think he has a better, he's more consistent too. You know, like Alan, if Alan has a bad game, he's got a fucking terrible game, you know, 10 receptions types. Whereas Herbert's bad games are still competitive.
00:54:32
Speaker
I mean, I've I've always thought that if the Chargers can make the playoffs and go up against they always play the Chiefs really well So if they can get past the Chiefs I think That's where they become you know Contenders because they always whenever they play against the Chiefs. It's always a close one But yeah for the Vikings that's pretty much all there is. I mean, it's just the same issues explosive offense just faltering in and
00:55:00
Speaker
gotta have it situations but with the lions so the lions had the falcons this week i liked that game a lot yeah from a lion standpoint i think it was the week before they played the sea hawks in that game they also lost their third down rusher james houston who's usually a
00:55:20
Speaker
clear passing situation rushing. But this game had seven sacks. They got after it. Brian Branch was fucking everywhere. He had three tackle for losses and two pass deflections in like crucial situations too. That was just a crazy
00:55:38
Speaker
bounce back from the defense, especially without their two starting safeties as well. They forced the Falcons to get into obvious passing situations. Then we're just able to exploit it. I mean, Ritter can't beat teams by himself. He needs to rely on the run game. If they take away the run game, the Falcons are pretty one dimensional and that's what the Lions did. I mean,
00:56:02
Speaker
If they can rely on their defense to win games, that's when it's going to get like that's when they're going to be one of the top teams. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Well, because their offense can definitely execute like, you know, golf fits there so well. And so their offense is more than good enough to keep them in games. You get that defense like finally catching up finally. Yeah. Yeah. And if they get that locked in,
00:56:31
Speaker
By mid-season, we'll be able to tell who's going to win the NFC North. We got Packers Lions on Thursday. That'll be a very good game. Yeah, we were talking earlier. I think that's going to be a good metric to see where both teams actually are. For sure. And then you were saying whoever wins that is going to have the North for the next few weeks at least, right?
00:56:51
Speaker
I think they should. I mean, at least from a win standpoint, because you get that division record under you. It's pretty easy to stay. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, let's say we lost to the bear or to the bear. No one lost to the bears. The loss of the Packers. In about a year. Gotta lose to the Vikings. Like, so, I mean, the first couple that we have to start out the season in these first five, six weeks.
00:57:17
Speaker
You know, we're going to go into for sure. That's the thing, though, their offense wasn't that good. Golf was kind of shaky. I mean, he got hit a lot because this game they had. Yeah, he didn't get sacked at all, but he got hit like nine times. So he was. Is that all? Yeah.
00:57:34
Speaker
He was rattled though. So I mean, he wasn't hitting, he was sailing a lot of deep passes and stuff like that. He was, he wasn't on point like he usually is. I think he had another interception as well. But I mean, that's the first time holding the team to six or under since 2018. So the defense is making strides. Oh, absolutely. I mean, especially with their two starting safeties out, it's just showing that they're creating depth around the team as well. I mean, that's how you win games. Next man up performs and.
00:58:04
Speaker
I will say it'll be fun to watch the NFC North in like three years from the Lions perspective, from the Packers perspective. It's going to be very interesting to watch those two. Again, the Vikings are not that far off. They're just not. If they could lock in the defense again and still operate as a high octane offense,
00:58:26
Speaker
They're still going to be a fun team to watch and they're at least going to give us good and close games, whether they win or lose. I don't give a shit, but you know, it's good. It's fun football. Yeah. I think the NFC North in general, other than the Bears are on an upward trend right now, which is pretty cool. Just that our division overall is doing better.
00:58:47
Speaker
I think it's gonna be more so like the AFC North in a few years where every team splits like 3-3 because I mean, it's just dogs going after each other, basically. Absolutely. And honestly, that's how I want it to be. When someone just runs away with a division, it's not as much fun, I don't think. It can be for like a year for that team. Yeah, I was gonna say, unless it's your team that's running away. Consistently over and over every year.
00:59:12
Speaker
But that's pretty much it for the Lions unless you guys got anything else No, you want to hit the Packers game or yeah, or was talking about the fourth quarter enough for you earlier No, I'll go back into it 11 fucking penalties
00:59:38
Speaker
90 penalty yards has been an issue all year, but this was more of like Stupid like holding penalties and shit like that like the last few the first few games have been you know
00:59:53
Speaker
personal fouls and shit like that. But this was just sloppy play all around. I remember just being like, really? And they're at home. That was a weird thing to me. I mean, they were, they had backups on the left side. So, I mean,
01:00:11
Speaker
I guess there's that but still. But it was the right side that was getting called for. Oh, yeah, I know. Yeah, it was. There's been a tight end. I think it's Luke, Luke Musgrave, who's gotten a few false starts now. So that could definitely be it too. But yeah, for the first three quarters, we essentially couldn't do anything. Love wasn't hidden a rhythm or anything. I mean, we weren't
01:00:36
Speaker
capitalizing on anything. There's so many missed opportunities as you know, which has been a continuous thing. There's lots of contended passes, like every pass was contended that those that defense was on point for that first part of the game, especially that secondary. I mean, Alante Taylor was everywhere, everywhere. I felt like they were calling his name on every play for a while. He was he was disrupting a lot. I mean, but we kept attacking him.
01:01:05
Speaker
So we finally got some good plays out of it, but I mean, Marshall and Lattimore is already established and then they have a, they just have a young, uh, young secondary. That's super disciplined.
01:01:21
Speaker
Their pass rush is amazing, too. Oh, yeah. Just the way they create pressure and just get after it. Some of their stunts that they use, it's fun to watch. Sean Gary, finally back. Three sacks on the day. He was the only one that came to play for those first three quarters.
01:01:44
Speaker
He's due for a contract and I think we should pay him sooner than later because the price is just going to keep going on. Do it now. Yeah. Three sacks. That's more than what bears got. All season. Yeah. And one game. The one thing I liked was that we stayed poised in the end. I mean, we didn't get rattled by it. I mean, it was a slogfest for like the first.
01:02:10
Speaker
45 minutes, but the last 15 minutes is what counted. I mean, they were able to pull it out. One thing I noticed was AJ Dillon got benched in the last quarter. Um, he's been really struggling. He's been running like he's got his laces tied together basically. So they put in Patrick Taylor. Patrick Taylor's really solid in the past pro as well. So that could also be why, but.
01:02:38
Speaker
Even for running plays, Patrick Taylor was out there late and AJ Dylan was essentially not out there at all at the end. Last time the Packers were down 17, 0 at halftime. Shut up. Shut up. I saw it. Get the fuck out of here. Go on, say it. 2018 against the Bears. It's a little Mac game for the first half.
01:03:07
Speaker
Oh, okay. Is that where he fucking showed up to. He had a fucking hell of a game. And then it was like the second half. We just did nothing. Yeah. Well, and Rogers came out to play that second half to high as hell to probably off the brakes. Like a Southern accent in the post. I remember that. Yeah, I remember that.
01:03:29
Speaker
that one honestly might be worth putting in i might throw that clip in here because that one is honestly worth it i remember that i remember we were laughing about that too i think isaac weren't we didn't we shut up with each other because that was when we were still like calm he was yeah that was so funny i'll have to find that it's it's hard too it is but it's the bear pack of rivalry so
01:03:52
Speaker
I would have had to take something really catastrophic injury wise, keep me off the field in the second half. I went in the locker room, did all the tests, and I was in our indoor facility trying to get it loosened up. But I know once I got back on the field and adrenaline started going, I'd be able to hang in there. What was the injury? My knee. I just felt some in it. Just having a hard time putting weight on it.
01:04:21
Speaker
Doc and I had a conversation there. Yeah, we did a test. I told him I was going back with my knee, with my knee, with my knee. That was the biggest Packers fourth quarter comeback in history. This blast game, not the Bears one. No, no, no, no. Yeah, sorry. I just want to get it clear. Yeah, biggest fourth quarter comeback, which is, you know, pretty good from your young quarterback. But like Stein said early on,
01:04:50
Speaker
He was interested in seeing Jordan Love in games where he's got to win it. He's got to throw for 40 plus times. And I think he proved that he can trust his young receivers and make plays when it counts. I mean, especially without Christian Watson and his whole left side of the line. It's Zach Tom. Our right tackle also went out late.
01:05:13
Speaker
It was just fun to watch him kind of emerge as a playmaker. Probably the first time we've seen him in a situation like that. Yeah. So, yeah. And against a sound defense. Now, I think the thing that definitely helped them was Derek Carr going out, because once that happened, it seemed like the Saints offense literally could do nothing. They stalled out hard. And so it looks like Derek Carr's injury
01:05:40
Speaker
as an AC joint sprain. I don't know if any of you have ever had one of those, but generally, in order for it to be symptomless, it's months. I would be very surprised if Derek Carr actually were to start next week or even the week after. Now, things are always escalated a bit in the NFL at the professional level. People tend to come back from certain types of injuries a little quicker than the average. They got them crazy drugs.
01:06:10
Speaker
crazy drugs cryotherapy like you get everything high end of everything I got that good health care but like you know the Saints I think could have been a pretty solid show out for the NFC North or South and now I think that that immediately puts them into question so it'll be interesting to see how that how that plays out for them all right we got any more on the NFC North vibe check guys or
01:06:41
Speaker
I don't think so.
NFC North Teams' Performance
01:06:42
Speaker
I think that pretty much wraps it up. Good week all around, except for the two winless teams. I think the Lions are solidifying themselves as the top dog in the NFC North. And I think Thursday is going to see if they actually are or not. All right, boys.
01:07:04
Speaker
week four let's yeah let's let's wrap up that'll wrap up the uh nfc north vibe check and take us into the week four preview which will be the chicago bears versus the denver broncos like to call this one the battle of the bads because caleb williams bowl caleb williams bowl there was another one there's another one that was like
01:07:33
Speaker
Caleb Williams watching the Bears play made him want to get his PhD instead so he can stay in college longer and not get drafted by the Bears this year. Yeah, dude, I don't blame him. And I was like, fuck it. Fuck it. Stay in school. Yeah. The PhD, you might actually be able to go somewhere with that instead of, as opposed to if you get drafted by the Bears, you might just end up with the Steelers.
01:08:01
Speaker
So the Broncos got the fucking break speed off of them last week for anyone who didn't pay attention. What was the final score? It was like 70 to 20. 70, 20. Yeah. The Miami Dolphins put 70 points up on the Broncos.
01:08:20
Speaker
close to breaking the all-time record. They should have had 70. They easily could have. 100%. They rightfully had it there. Which, to me, it's just like, at that point, you're already at 70. Why do you choose to take your foot off the gas at 70? Just go for the record. Just do it. They're not trying to humiliate anyone. Yeah. Isaac was telling me earlier that that's what Tua said. Tua said they didn't want to humiliate anyone. It's like, buddy, that ship sailed. You know why Tua said that?
01:08:49
Speaker
because that bitch was not going for a field goal. You know, they put some points on the board. They were more likely. They I bet I bet their percentage on touchdown, like on the pass is almost as high as their fucking kicker in this season. Yeah, after that game. God damn. So even with the Broncos getting all of their teeth knocked out, they are still favored to beat the Bears at home in Chicago. These are three point favorites.
01:09:19
Speaker
First off, my question, number one, how are they only three-point favorites? And I think that I was listening to another podcast about how someone was like, how the fuck is that a thing? And someone else was like, the only thing I can think is that the people in Vegas need
01:09:36
Speaker
They cannot lose the populace of Chicagoans who place bets to not place bets. How many people gamble in Chicago? Yeah. Exactly. That they're like, they're like, no, we have to do this. Yeah, sure. Even though they should probably be a 10-point favorite. Yeah, that's funny. Maybe a 13-point favorite. It's like, yeah, they got donkey punched nonstop that whole day.
01:10:00
Speaker
But even still, I don't disagree with them being favorite. Yeah. No, with what's going on right now, I don't disagree either. Uh, this is going to be the first game in NFL history between two teams who combined to allow 110, 110 plus points and 1100 plus yards the previous week. Jesus Christ. So we're making history again, boys, boys and girls making more history. I don't know. I really, a little bit.
01:10:28
Speaker
I mean, you want to just give the vibe on this. I don't think we need to go into strengths and weaknesses and really break this one down, especially. We're pretty we're pretty far up in the time right now. Russell Wilson may be way the fuck out there the last couple of years, but he's still a veteran quarterback. Like, I still think that he's going to come in and be able to execute at least a well above average, whereas we don't have a single quarterback on the staff who could execute above average at this particular point in time. So.
01:10:57
Speaker
it's just yeah i mean it's just gonna be a mid off it's just both really bad teams and just you say mid yeah bro you mid what the fuck is mid about what we've done this season so far this isn't gonna be a goddamn low off
01:11:14
Speaker
It's just not going to be pretty. I don't think the Bears are going to turn anything around. I don't think they're going to do anything different. I think we're going to continue on the same track. The Broncos, I do think like you're saying, they're capable of coming in and playing at least average, which is going to be better than what the Bears are going to put up. Russell Wilson is a veteran. I think someone in the Bears is going to get hurt this week.
01:11:34
Speaker
Yeah. Why is that? You want to elaborate on that? Because they're getting put in bad positions. They're getting put in terrible positions. We already have plenty of injuries to begin with. Somebody's going to feel like they need to step up and try to make something happen. And I think someone's going to get hurt this week. So I think we're going to have more injuries again. And the Broncos also have something to play for, right? They're like, fuck that. We're not the Bears. They just got their shit kicked. Like, I guarantee they're going to come and fire them.
01:12:03
Speaker
And they may not play well defensively as a unit, but I mean, you know, 280 pounds with fire and fury in them is still going to do some damage. And I think the bears at this point are pretty deflated.
01:12:19
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think there's any fire or fury in any of them. And that's the difference. It sucks to see. But I think that's, unless you guys got anything you want to really go into or dig into, I think that's about it for the Bears Broncos. I think this is going to be Russell Wilson's best game into you. And possibly for the rest of his career, honestly, however long that might last.
01:12:46
Speaker
I mean he had a great game against Washington in a week, too. So I mean He still got you never know. Yeah We'll see. It's such a it's such a weird drop off from last year because that Broncos defense was so fucking good last year Yeah, how did it literally just like plummet? I mean it Did they lose a bunch of people they lost their coordinator? That you think that's what did it was just the coordinator alone. I
01:13:12
Speaker
I mean, I'm sure it has something to do with it, but that's such a dramatic drop off. Huge, huge. And that's got to be frustrating, especially like for returning defenders who are like reading. They have been a solid, like responsible defense for a while, you know, and then.
01:13:29
Speaker
We still have the same people, but we are terrible. So, you know, normally we do a score. Like, who do we think is going to win on this one? I don't want to do scores this week. What I'd rather do is, do you think anyone's going to get fired after this game from either team? I mean, didn't they pay Sean Payton the shit on the money? I don't think they'll get rid of him. Oh, there's no way he's getting fired. No, but I wouldn't be surprised if they made other moves. Sure. Fired, benched.
01:13:58
Speaker
I mean, fingers crossed to fucking Mattyber Flus gets fired. Didn't think I'd be saying that this season, but here we are. What about you, Stein?
Speculation on Bears' Offensive Moves
01:14:09
Speaker
Who do you think is getting fired? I don't know if anyone's going to get fired. I don't know if there's going to be any further, you know, chart, you know, like, does someone else have to resign for?
01:14:21
Speaker
inappropriate behavior or what the fuck HR is saying. Otherwise, I think benching, I would not be surprised if we see another outing by the offense like this that Fields ends up, if not getting benched in the next game. He maybe does the starting series or two.
01:14:47
Speaker
of the following game and then gets benched so that's what i'm going to be looking for yep isaac you got any predictions you want to make yeah no i think it's just gonna be ugly just gonna be ugly probably just shouldn't air it on tv i should put it on c-span instead of whatever it's gonna be on uh all right streaming well yeah uh that about does it for this episode um
01:15:15
Speaker
shit sucks right now but fuck it the season goes on at least uh with some of the drama and stuff that's been going on maybe we'll be in for more of it and some sort of entertainment because god knows we're not being entertained on fucking game days so do you think they're making a push for hard knocks i don't know maybe i we should have had it this year i thought i was kind of hoping we would get it this year but
01:15:36
Speaker
That would have been entertaining us. Oh, that would have been crazy. I mean,
Podcast Promotions and Social Media Engagement
01:15:41
Speaker
especially when you start watching the games now, you'd be like, what the fuck was happening? But we got the Broncos and then we'll be back next week. Same time, same deal. We'll try to have an episode out within a couple of days. Stein, what do you got for the people that you want to share? For the people. You can check me out on Instagram. Real Jim Heroes.
01:16:06
Speaker
I can also check out my other podcast chick flicks with dicks. Um, flicks spelled with an X and then hit up. Yeah, we'll just, we'll keep it at that. You can also check out. Yeah, we'll keep it at that.
01:16:23
Speaker
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01:16:43
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01:17:05
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01:17:29
Speaker
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01:17:52
Speaker
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01:18:07
Speaker
All righty. Well, that about
Closing Remarks on Bears' Season
01:18:10
Speaker
does it for us guys. We'll catch you next week. And, uh, as we continue to keep track of this fucking dumpster fire, that is the Chicago bears. But this is our life. This is what we've chosen. This is what we're stuck with. So chin up and bear down. Catch you next week.