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What Healing Is (And What It Isn't)
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Healing isn’t about fixing yourself or erasing the past. It’s about learning to live with what happened—gently, honestly, and through relationships. In this episode, I break down what healing actually is, what it isn’t, and why the process takes longer than we want.
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Introduction to Healing
00:00:01
Wes MacMillan
What's going on everybody? Welcome back to Philosophony, the podcast with deep talks and dumb jokes. I'm your host, Wes McMillan, and the topic today is healing.
00:00:14
Wes MacMillan
And what healing is and what healing is not. And I know what you're thinking, that healing has become a bit of a buzzword. Everybody seems to be on their healing journey. My aunt,
00:00:28
Wes MacMillan
Debbie is on her healing journey. What the hell does she have to heal from? And you want to know the truth? I love that everyone's on their healing journey.
00:00:38
Wes MacMillan
And number two, you you never really have any idea what people are going through.
The Hidden Struggles
00:00:48
Wes MacMillan
Sometimes someone's life looks great on paper, on the outside, and on the inside they're going through hell.
00:00:56
Wes MacMillan
And studies have been done that say that most people have trauma. And at this point, maybe we're just healing from life and maybe that's okay. and I don't really care. I'm happy it's gone mainstream.
00:01:12
Wes MacMillan
That more people are putting in an effort to resolve their emotional issues.
00:01:17
Wes MacMillan
So fuck you. And with that being said, the way the format today is we're gonna start off by talk or going through specific examples of what healing is and what healing is not. And most of the time, the healing is not part is just the opposite of what the healing is part, but I still think it's helpful.
The Slow Nature of Healing
00:01:38
Wes MacMillan
And the first one is healing is gentle. Healing is not rushed.
00:01:46
Wes MacMillan
I think when we decide that we want to start healing, we've been putting it off for so long that we get excited and we want to go as fast as we can.
00:02:00
Wes MacMillan
um And that's not really how healing works. Healing is kind of be more about learning to be how to be gentle with yourself like I was just talking about some people's lives look great on paper maybe they're successful maybe they're jacked and i think a lot of the times those people are kind of letting their inner critic run the show everybody has an inner critic
00:02:31
Wes MacMillan
And for the most part, it's telling them to kind of... It's trying to get them to be perfect. So if someone like someone's life looks perfect or damn near, there should be bells going off in your head.
00:02:46
Wes MacMillan
um It's also like when I... I didn't even like, I don't know if I decided to start healing, but I've been making an effort for the past like two years to like work on myself.
00:03:00
Wes MacMillan
And at the beginning of a healing journey, at least for men, looks like waking up early, going to the gym.
00:03:10
Wes MacMillan
And you expect everything to get better just through that. And i'm I had to learn the hard way that it won't. um That is a great start. The gym taught me a lot. The gym taught me that hard work pays off and that if I am consistent in my efforts and things, that I will make progress.
00:03:34
Wes MacMillan
But you're not going to bench three wheels and be happy. Taking care of your body is important and treating yourself with respect is important.
00:03:48
Wes MacMillan
but there's way more to the picture and the puzzle.
00:03:52
Wes MacMillan
um Second one is healing is slow.
00:03:57
Wes MacMillan
This one kind of sucks.
00:04:00
Wes MacMillan
I think humans in general, similar to the gym, when we start working out, it's like, I'm gonna go to the gym for like eight hours and after a couple of days, I'll probably be jacked.
00:04:11
Wes MacMillan
And man, I wish it worked like that so bad. Because in the beginning, that's when you're feeling the most motivated. and you're willing to grind for hours on end.
00:04:23
Wes MacMillan
And you want to get it done. But you can't. Rome wasn't built in a day. and neither
Healing Through Relationships
00:04:33
Wes MacMillan
is Helen.
00:04:36
Wes MacMillan
It's more about consistency, which sucks. Consistency is key. It's about showing up for yourself every day.
00:04:47
Wes MacMillan
It's about kind of like learning to love yourself. And so imagine if you were like treating someone like shit for years and then you go up to them and you're like, I'm so sorry for everything. Like let's fix our relationship.
00:05:03
Wes MacMillan
And then for like eight hours, you're like, tell me what I can do. Tell me what I can do. Tell me what I can do. That's like that energy is kind of the opposite of what we're looking for.
00:05:16
Wes MacMillan
You've been overly hard on that person and what you need to do is learn to be gentle and learning isn't fast. I think the more effort you put in
00:05:30
Wes MacMillan
the more you'll get out, you get what you give kind of thing, but you can't do it in a day. Also, if say you were getting bullied for like five years Does it really make sense that you'd be able to heal in a month?
00:05:47
Wes MacMillan
And if you went through some prolonged trauma or prolonged hurting, I'm sorry. But if you really want to get through it, it is going to take some hard work.
00:05:58
Wes MacMillan
That's later on the list. So stop getting ahead of me. um Third one is healing is through relationships.
00:06:09
Wes MacMillan
um And this one's kind of nuanced and healing is not isolated.
00:06:15
Wes MacMillan
And a lot of people with trauma or a lot of people in general are more comfortable being alone.
00:06:24
Wes MacMillan
And I think there's a time for being alone. There's a lot of self-care you have to do on your own. But that, again, is kind of like the first step.
00:06:35
Wes MacMillan
It's much easier like not to get triggered when you're alone because you have almost complete control over your environment. Although being alone is a trigger for some people, which is not funny, but...
00:06:50
Wes MacMillan
maybe ironic. um But I probably like, you can like, spend a lot of time alone and be feeling good. Like I've been journaling, I've been going to therapy, I've been working out.
00:07:06
Wes MacMillan
And then you spend like two days with your family, and you're gonna want to rip your hair out. And that's why healing is done through relationships.
00:07:18
Wes MacMillan
And I think the part
00:07:20
Wes MacMillan
Maybe part of this is communication. I think maybe bad communication is often what creates trauma because there's a misunderstanding that's been sitting the in in in the mean minimum and in the back of your head for five years and communicating and not in like ah and not getting fired up and insulting or name calling the other person. That's a big part of healing.
00:07:47
Wes MacMillan
And also like isolation is not good for mental health. I wish it was. Cause I, when I'm feeling sad, I don't want to be around anyone.
00:08:01
Wes MacMillan
I think part of the reason is I don't want to, I want, I don't want people to see me down. i don't want people to see me sad, but I think that's also part of the journey.
00:08:13
Wes MacMillan
Mel Robbins has a book and a theory called let them. So if you're sad, let them see you sad. And if they're going to be disappointed and wishing they had their fun friend around, then let them be disappointed because being their fun friend is not your fucking job.
00:08:31
Wes MacMillan
Your job is to survive. And if they want to be your friend, they got to be with you through thick and thin.
00:08:39
Wes MacMillan
You don't just get to be around for the highlights. That's not how it works with me. um
00:08:47
Wes MacMillan
Yeah.
00:08:48
Wes MacMillan
Yeah. Definitely. For sure. Fourth one is healing is not linear. Healing is a bumpy road. And this one I definitely had to learn the hard way.
00:09:02
Wes MacMillan
I was like... um
00:09:06
Wes MacMillan
I started kind of working on myself my senior year of college, which is like two years ago now.
Identity and Trauma
00:09:13
Wes MacMillan
Um, and I would be like meditating, journaling, going to therapy, and then something would happen like, um,
00:09:25
Wes MacMillan
I would go to the bar and I'd drink too much or I'd like snap at a friend or something like that, you know?
00:09:36
Wes MacMillan
And i'd be like, fuck this. I've been meditating. I've been journaling. I've been going to therapy and it's none of it's working.
00:09:47
Wes MacMillan
But just remember, it's not linear. It's a bumpy road. And a setback is exactly that.
00:09:52
Wes MacMillan
It's a setback. It's not back to square one. Even if it's a big setback. Healing is often like three steps forward, two steps back. Which is so frustrating. I wish so bad that it was three steps forward and then another three steps forward and then another three steps forward until I get where I'm going.
00:10:14
Wes MacMillan
and until I'm fully healed. And that's kind of, that's not even on the list. So bonus round. ah Healing is more of a ah process, a way of living, a way of learning to love yourself, a way of learning to take care of yourself. It's not like a destination.
00:10:35
Wes MacMillan
I like, I think last week asked my therapist, I was like, when is this shit going to be done? Like, I feel like I've been working pretty hard. And her her theory, which is a ah shared theory among in the community of therapists, is that like you can get to a place where you're doing pretty good, but something like say someone pokes, someone like you get triggered, hits one of your triggers, it's still not going to feel great.
00:11:05
Wes MacMillan
You're still going have scars. Those things... There's no amount of healing is going to...
00:11:15
Wes MacMillan
make those things not have happened. And that's kind of something you got to accept.
00:11:21
Wes MacMillan
A lot of healing is accepting really hard truths.
00:11:28
Wes MacMillan
And sometimes I think about what like what what I'd be like if nothing bad ever happened to me.
00:11:37
Wes MacMillan
And that feels almost like heaven.
00:11:40
Wes MacMillan
But the truth is trauma and life def define you. The bad things quote unquote that happened to you define you.
00:11:52
Wes MacMillan
I went through what I did and I worked on myself and this podcast is a byproduct of that. My career as a therapist is a byproduct of that. And I love those things. I love the podcast. I love that I'm trying to help people.
00:12:05
Wes MacMillan
And that wouldn't have happened without the bad things that happened to me happening. You can't take the good without the bad.
00:12:17
Wes MacMillan
um Healing, what is it? What are we on number five? I feel like the forgetful teacher healing is not getting better. There's like kind of what I was getting at before, like this whole self-improvement, some call it an epidemic.
00:12:35
Wes MacMillan
And I want to tell you that healing is not about getting better. Healing is about realizing you were always good enough.
00:12:44
Wes MacMillan
And I'm sorry someone or something made you feel like you're not. And we were talking about on the last episode, you, your worth does not come from how jacked you are, what job you have, what car you drive. Your worth comes from the fact that you're a human.
00:13:07
Wes MacMillan
And a fancy car in a big house doesn't make you any better.
00:13:14
Wes MacMillan
It might make your ego feel better, like look at me with my fancy car in my big house. But it doesn't that's That's fragile.
00:13:24
Wes MacMillan
Because once you lose that car, you're right back to, I'm worthless. And that's why I'm focused on doing the inner work. Because the outer work is all bullshit.
00:13:35
Wes MacMillan
um
00:13:37
Wes MacMillan
And it's not necessarily about getting better. I think it's more about being more true to yourself and sharing who you really are with the world.
00:13:49
Wes MacMillan
and that in turn will make you happier.
00:13:53
Wes MacMillan
Yeah. um We touched on this a little bit before. Healing is frustrating, it's tedious, and it's a lot of fucking work.
00:14:04
Wes MacMillan
It is far from easy. As my brother would say, if it was easy, everyone would do it. And maybe that makes it a little meaningful. But that also makes it very difficult because it takes consistency, it takes hard work, it takes patience.
00:14:24
Wes MacMillan
But you know what else is frustrating, tedious, and can take a lot of work? Love, relationships. And that's where the, I mean, there's a lot of value in healing.
00:14:37
Wes MacMillan
He healing. But you're kind of learning about how to love yourself. And I know that sounds corny, but it's true. Learning how to be gentle with yourself.
00:14:50
Wes MacMillan
And once you do that, you are going to have a much easier time loving other people and being gentle with other people. I've been in love before when i was... far from healthy.
00:15:03
Wes MacMillan
I would go as far to say unhealthy. I did not love, I hated myself probably when I was in that relationship. And that sucks that love came, I mean love damn near saved my life when it came, but it sucks that I don't even know if we had a shot because
00:15:23
Wes MacMillan
i don't think either of us were in a good place mentally. But that gave me motivation
00:15:30
Wes MacMillan
to be ready the next time love comes.
00:15:35
Wes MacMillan
What are we on now? Number seven. Healing is more Healing is not about forgetting or erasing what happened.
Integrating Past Experiences
00:15:45
Wes MacMillan
It's about integrating it.
00:15:47
Wes MacMillan
And we touched on this a little bit before, but everything's connected. Give me a break. um
00:15:54
Wes MacMillan
Yeah, like we talked about it before. I wish I could so bad, go back so bad and erase what happened. But honestly, if a guardian angel said like, I'll do it.
00:16:07
Wes MacMillan
I have this button and if you press it I will make I'll erase everything that happened.
00:16:15
Wes MacMillan
I honestly wish that would happen because I know I wouldn't press that fucking button.
00:16:20
Wes MacMillan
These scars are what made me. This pain is what made me and I'm proud of who I am. It's taken a lot of work and the work's not done. i don't know if the work will ever be done but I love who I am
00:16:33
Wes MacMillan
And my ma tells me about this like this Japanese art where there's this perfect vase. And then I think they drop it. or I don't know if they drop it or they all somehow get broken. And then they like glue it back together and there's gold in the cracks.
00:16:55
Wes MacMillan
um And some say it's even more beautiful.
00:17:01
Wes MacMillan
And that's kind of what healing is.
00:17:04
Wes MacMillan
Like i When I see someone who like really hasn't, and I don't want to get too judgmental, but say I'm talking to someone who hasn't really been through anything.
00:17:18
Wes MacMillan
Substantial. Nothing they've had to work for or get over. I mean, that's where you, that's where you figure out who you are. That's where you figure out what life's all about.
00:17:30
Wes MacMillan
That's where you figure out it was fucking hard, but I did it anyway. And that's kind of what I respect. I used to want, especially when I was feeling like broken, like, um,
00:17:47
Wes MacMillan
when I was feeling broken, I wanted someone who would just never been broken that has always been perfect. And I think I wanted that because I wanted that for myself.
00:18:00
Wes MacMillan
I wanted myself to and have never been broken in the first place, but life, life will break you and it's up to you to put back together the pieces and it's hard, but it's meaningful.
00:18:13
Wes MacMillan
And it'll make you a beautiful vase. Um, yeah, it's about integrating. Like we were saying before, like I was saying before, I'm the only one in this room.
00:18:29
Wes MacMillan
Um, it's about integrating what happened.
00:18:33
Wes MacMillan
Say it's about like, say you were getting bullied for five years. Um,
00:18:40
Wes MacMillan
it's about realizing that was never about you. hurt people, hurt people. That bully was probably going through some things at home and he wanted to take the pain out on someone else.
00:18:53
Wes MacMillan
And say your teacher or your coach was extra hard on you. It wasn't about you.
00:19:02
Wes MacMillan
And I think we try to make things about ourselves because it's hard to accept that we're really helpless in this situation.
00:19:10
Wes MacMillan
We're thinking like, oh, maybe it's because I'm not smart or funny enough. And then you try to be more smart and funny just to kind of like give yourself something to do because it's so hard to accept that you are helpless in that situation.
00:19:23
Wes MacMillan
um
00:19:25
Wes MacMillan
Especially happens and when it happens when you're very young. gaber monte I think that's his name. He's like a trauma specialist. He says like babies are narcissists. Like say you were crying and your mom didn't come pick you up. Like that's bound to happen because parents are parents for years on end. There's gotta be one time where you're like crying and they didn't come get you. And in that moment, it's easier to think like my mom didn't come get me because I'm unlovable.
00:20:03
Wes MacMillan
Um, or because I'm not good enough or because I'm too much or because I'm crying and try to fix that because ah you're a baby.
00:20:14
Wes MacMillan
You can't be like, it's, you're a baby and you're crying and no one's coming to get you. As an adult, that seemed like, that's not like you can't get, ah you can't get them all. But when you're a baby, it's like, I need help and no one's helping me.
00:20:30
Wes MacMillan
What happens if no one comes?
00:20:33
Wes MacMillan
And I can't take care of myself right now. I'm just a baby. Like that TikTok sound. um But it's true. And your brain is always working on solutions.
00:20:49
Wes MacMillan
So if you can't like get up, if you can't crawl out the crib, get yourself some food, because you're just a
00:20:59
Wes MacMillan
your mind's gonna be like, maybe it's cause I'm too fat. I gotta lay off the formula. I gotta lay off the boob milk. And it's strange, but that's how humans work.
00:21:13
Wes MacMillan
And even if youre like a coach was yelling at you, it's if you were like, they're right, I'm not good enough. And maybe that coach is trying to make you better, or maybe they're going through some things at home, you'll never really know.
00:21:28
Wes MacMillan
which sucks. a lot of A lot of healing and a lot about being happy in life in general is about uncertainty and living and coping with uncertainty. And especially when you've had trauma, uncertainty feels like something bad's about to happen.
00:21:46
Wes MacMillan
And even joy feels like I can't trust this because something bad's coming. But once you can take care of yourself, Things change and if something bad does happen, you can deal with it.
00:22:01
Wes MacMillan
And the last one, i don't know what number we're but in this one, i I really tried to do when I was in the beginning of my healing journey.
Processing Emotions
00:22:12
Wes MacMillan
it's Healing is not about getting rid of emotions.
00:22:17
Wes MacMillan
Healing is about allowing emotions to process so it doesn't feel like they're still happening.
00:22:23
Wes MacMillan
But healing is not about getting rid of emotions. When in the beginning, my goal in my healing journey was about pretty much to never be anxious or depressed again.
00:22:35
Wes MacMillan
And honestly, that was a pretty good goal. That would have been awesome, but it's not feasible, which sucks. It's another hard truth. It's about learning to live with your anxiety and depression. And when my first therapist said that to me, I almost punched him in the mouth.
00:22:54
Wes MacMillan
was like, fuck you You don't know what I'm capable of. do you know where I'm from? That's the Boston in me. But, um, that motherfucker was right, man.
00:23:05
Wes MacMillan
It's learning about that being anxious isn't the end of the world. Being anxious is normal in a lot of situations. You might be a little more anxious because of something that happened to you that you never really dealt with, that your human mind kind of got in the way.
00:23:23
Wes MacMillan
um But like i like, I'll go on a first date and I'll be like, why the fuck am I anxious? That's normal, bruh. That's normal, bro. You ain't like, it would be weird if you're going on a first date and you weren't nervous. Like I went on a first date this week and I was pretty much like shaking. I was hiding it. Like my hands were like this, them below the table.
00:23:49
Wes MacMillan
Um, but that's a lot of fear that I'm still working on. Um, but, Like I was stuck in fight or flight for a while. And when I go on a date, it kind of comes back out and I'm like, fuck this.
00:24:03
Wes MacMillan
But it kind of makes sense that it's coming out because like fear, fear tells you that something is important to you and your body's like, don't fuck it up.
00:24:18
Wes MacMillan
And the ah other side of the coin is fear. Fear is thinking about like what could go wrong. But, um, Excitement is thinking about what could go right.
00:24:29
Wes MacMillan
And that's kind of like a good way to combat anxious thoughts. um
00:24:37
Wes MacMillan
If you're on a date and you're thinking about like, oh, what if she doesn't like me? Think about like, what if she does? How exciting would that be? Because if you don't do anything that scares you, you're not doing anything that excites you.
00:24:54
Wes MacMillan
I'm to say that again. If you're not doing anything that scares you, you're not doing anything that excites you.
00:25:01
Wes MacMillan
I'm to say it. No, I'm not. But for real.
Facing Fears in Relationships
00:25:06
Wes MacMillan
And I think it's funny enough, Jamie Foxx, either he quoted someone and I heard that or it's his quote. It's what's on the other side of fear is like nothing.
00:25:15
Wes MacMillan
In that sense, it's like, what if she doesn't like me? It's like, motherfucker, you're going to be all right if this girl don't like you. That's like attachment. Like I'll go on a date. I'll start texting a girl for a couple of days and I go on a date and I'm like, she's the one.
00:25:31
Wes MacMillan
Start like texting my family and be like, add another plate at Christmas. but Before I've even met the girl in person.
00:25:41
Wes MacMillan
And then so that's why i make it seem like it's make or break, but it's not, man. It's not. There's plenty of fish at a seamen.
00:25:53
Wes MacMillan
I know when you're focused on one fish and you want it really bad, that it feels like there's only one fish in the sea. But when that one swims away, you're gonna be sad for a while. You're gonna be like, there's no fish.
00:26:06
Wes MacMillan
Where'd a fish at? And then some more fish will come in your vision. And you'll be like, oh, I was tripping. But that's something you kind of have to learn the hard way. And for me, it's something i have to learn over and over and over again. Maybe I won't learn it until I just finally get a girl that like, like I went on a date and ah kind of pussied out of kissing her.
00:26:26
Wes MacMillan
And then after the date, she was like, let's just be friends. I was like, fuck. But if she wanted to call it quits on me that quickly, then we probably weren't meant to be, no sane. And all also, I get so caught up in like worrying about if this girl likes me that I forget to like evaluate if I like this girl.
00:26:46
Wes MacMillan
I place a lot of value on looks. It's hard for me to get over. It's like, if you're hot and we can have a conversation, like I'm pretty close to getting down on one knee.
00:26:58
Wes MacMillan
um But what I think I'm actually looking for, and this is a tangent, but um it's like my best friend, man. I want someone that I enjoy talking about things with, that I enjoy watching movies with, that I enjoy hiking, camping, skiing with, that I enjoy like talking about music with.
00:27:22
Wes MacMillan
It's more about like just someone I can have good conversations with and also someone that can make me laugh because I like to laugh and someone I can make laugh, but that's not really an issue because even on the first date, I have bitches howling.
00:27:40
Wes MacMillan
oh Yeah. And that was the last one on the list. Um, and I know what you're thinking. i know what you're saying. I just said, I know what you're thinking. And that's a combination of saying and thinking you're sinking West.
00:27:58
Wes MacMillan
You're doing all this talk about healing. How do I heal? um And one caveat, I like moved, I say healing is not about like isolation, but I kind of like moved to Colorado partially to like heal.
Effective Healing Practices
00:28:13
Wes MacMillan
Healing isn't done in isolation, but sometimes you need a little space. Sometimes you need a little space so they can get out your face. Um, yeah.
00:28:26
Wes MacMillan
And I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, Wes, you're doing all this talking about healing. How do I heal? Um, and I'm not going to go into details on each one, but I'll do them from like hardest to easiest. One, therapy. Get your ass in therapy. Everybody needs therapy.
00:28:47
Wes MacMillan
Number two. Meditation. And I'm saying that kind of like a hypocrite, a hippopotamus, because i'm I meditated every day for a year and it was genuinely life changing. But now I'm kind of like, I did it.
00:29:02
Wes MacMillan
I figured it out, which isn't true. I'm just focusing on other stuff. um Journaling. If you don't got money for a therapist or you're too proud to go to a therapist, open up a piece of paper and just start writing.
00:29:17
Wes MacMillan
Write about your day. Or you can look up on chat GBT's healing prompts. Prompts for my healing journey.
00:29:28
Wes MacMillan
Or you can like Google it. Google like shadow work. There's a lot of stuff you can do. that You can do breath work. um
00:29:36
Wes MacMillan
Even like telling people how you feel. Being honest with those around you. If you're not doing well, talk to someone about it.
00:29:44
Wes MacMillan
Your friends should be with you through thick and thin. And if they if they're dodging you when you're thin, man, hate to say it, but you gotta ask yourself, is that your friend?
00:29:56
Wes MacMillan
Is that your friend?
00:29:58
Wes MacMillan
Or they only like you when you thick.
00:30:03
Wes MacMillan
It's kind of crazy that i can like I'm laughing like this in a room by myself, but I got my philosophans here. I got my philosophuckers here. um Yeah. There's a lot of ways to heal.
00:30:16
Wes MacMillan
Google it. Look it up. And the last thing I'll say is I got some great feedback on the last episode, which really goes a long way with me. I...
00:30:28
Wes MacMillan
had i have a really harsh inner critic. So whenever I'm doing a podcast and I'm saying stuff, a part of me is like, stupid. That was dumb. That wasn't funny. You really thought that was funny?
00:30:40
Wes MacMillan
That's so awkward, man. You just cracked a joke that you know ain't gonna land. And so when people reach out and are like, Wes, I love what you had to say in the last podcast.
00:30:51
Wes MacMillan
And I also in the last one was talking about my sobriety, which I really... I went, I had like, i i thought about it and I made a decision. i was like, I'm not going to talk about my sobriety because i know people are like, I know what people, the stereotype of sobriety is. It's like, I'm happier than I've ever been. It's like, no, I went sober because I got work to do.
00:31:17
Wes MacMillan
I wish I didn't, but I got work to do. yeah. And honestly, it makes me feel really good when I was worried that I was so worried about sharing a part of myself that I didn't share it.
00:31:31
Wes MacMillan
And I shared it because I'm impulsive. And people were like, yo, that was awesome that you shared that. And ah think people what people respect is that it's genuine it's not even what I think I had a friend reach out and tell me it's genuine and it's like you're practicing what you're preaching here like you're not just talking about healing and then going off in your life and not healing um but yeah thank you if you ever like i can't just in life in general if you have something nice to say about someone
00:32:09
Wes MacMillan
Say it. Life's short. What if I die before the next time you see me?
00:32:17
Wes MacMillan
I hope that doesn't happen. It probably won't happen. But it's like the same reason why you should tell people you love when love them. It's like, what if you lose them and they didn't know?
00:32:27
Wes MacMillan
And like, what? you The reason you don't say a compliment, at least for me, is like... I'm nervous to say it. But like... You're letting your fear get in the way of making someone else happy.
00:32:43
Wes MacMillan
Get a grip. But yeah, rate this shit, five stars, subscribe, throw it a like, um tell your friend about it.
00:32:53
Wes MacMillan
um But more than anything, thank you for listening and happy
Holiday Stress and Presence
00:32:58
Wes MacMillan
holidays. I know the holidays, speaking of healing, the holidays are a tough time for people. A lot of people's family be crazy and nobody knows how to push your buttons like your family.
00:33:10
Wes MacMillan
So yeah, If you celebrate Christmas, good luck. And if you don't, good luck. Because I don't think it's just the Christians that be getting crazy.
00:33:22
Wes MacMillan
I think it's everybody, man. um But also remember, i hope you get some good gifts and I hope you get to give some good gifts and see the joy on other people's faces. And remember that Christmas is more about being with your loved ones than the gifts.
00:33:41
Wes MacMillan
But now I'm just yapping. Thank you for listening. i love y'all. Peace.