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Ep. 183 – 7 Degrees of HolyWord Hogan
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This week Jeremiah joins us to talk about God’s mightiest warrior and recent 700 Club guest, Terry Eugene Bollea, aka Hulk Hogan! We’re all suckers for a juicy testimony, right? Well nobody in recent memory can spin a yarn quite like the Hulkster. Terry is on fire for God and anxious to spread the good word with what time he has left before he takes Hulkamania all the way to the Pearly Gates! He’s a truly electric personality, just don’t go thinking too hard about his stories…
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Podcast Introduction and Wildlife Banter
00:00:06
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Are you a Hollywood producer? Oh my god! Oh, this one!
00:00:44
Speaker
Hello and welcome to another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Casey. I'm Sam. I'm Jeremiah. And the animals are like on the move here. Everything's in the road. Like every single animal that sucks at crossing the road is in the road right now.
00:01:03
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And like I just been straddling snakes and turtles and stuff all over the place. Are you sure Kristi Noem didn't just come through town? Maybe they read the headlines and they're well executed. Anywhere south of South Dakota is safe. I like I was mad last week, though, because like this squirrel ran out in front of my I'm in this like stupid transit van because I'm covering a territory right now.
00:01:32
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And the squirrel ran out in the road and I like swerved to miss the squirrel. And in doing so, I ran over a snake and I don't know. I feel like I value snakes at this point in my life more than squirrels. I kind of hate squirrels, honestly. Yeah. Snakes are cool. Most snakes are just doing their thing. Squirrels are just like little vultures.
00:01:54
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I like rats that eat all my pecan. I like rats. I like rats. Don't be dissing rats, but squirrels. You like rats, but you hate squirrels? I don't hate squirrels. Hold on. You put a lot of words in my mouth. I just, I don't, I'm not on the squirrel train. I had pet rats. Rats are dope. Is that why you like that hot mama song so much?
00:02:16
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Me and Sam have a thing where he hates the one hot mulligan song off their last album where the lead singer Dares to have compassionate feelings about something's on a dog or a cat Doesn't like it
00:02:29
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Well, I, he also sings about hating his body and faith and wanting his mom to die and a bunch of other stuff. But Sam's like, no, the rat song, the rat songs where I draw the line. Sam rats live up to three years. I never had a rat live longer than two years. You like, that's, think of all the morning that you have to do when you get a pet rat. I, rats dribble urine when they
00:02:52
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walk around, they trail it across all of your stuff, doing a thick fiddle on your leg and arm and pants and shoes and food. Okay, do we want to talk about how that compares to things that dogs do? Well, dogs pee in one spot. Right? No. Like, our dog is covered in urine, but it's in like concentrated areas. No, my dog is old and has to wear diapers now because he's incontinent.
Pet Stories and Veterinary Tales
00:03:16
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And now you're just being ageist, Jeremiah.
00:03:19
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Today, when we were out for an hour and a half, he decided to chew on his diaper and ripped up pieces of it and ate some of it and then drooled the rest of it out into the carpet and truly diaper chunks. And then there was pee dribbles sprinkled throughout the rest of the carpet. So, you know, dogs. That's what you get for not putting a bullet between its eyes like you should have done.
00:03:46
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I'm not because I spoke last week. I don't know if you guys ended up listening to the intro, but I talked about my my lizard Edie that got its face fucking annihilated by my dog.
00:03:59
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Um, you want to write a song about it? I won't. I certainly would never. I'd be supportive, but yeah, I know. Uh, so quick lizard update. Uh, she's doing great. She's got this like gnarly scar that just goes from like one side of her mouth over the top of her face to the other side of her. Sounds pretty dope. Um, uh, something, I don't remember if I mentioned this on the last update, but
00:04:29
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I think her rib cage got, like her ribs got fucked up. Um, because they like, usually like they had kind of like puff out, like almost looks like kind of ballooning, like where they like puff out their sides and you can see just the spine at the top and then it just kind of drops down. Like the ribs aren't really holding like now. Um, and it's getting a little bit better, but one side is definitely a bit more collapsed than the other.
00:05:00
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A couple of days ago, she finally started like, like we put some worms in her mealworms or crickets. And some people will say you shouldn't give your lizard too many mealworms. There's a lot of there's a lot of people with some seriously strong opinions on how you need to feed. Oh, yeah. And it gets every idiot has pet advice. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, we do the mealworms sometimes supposedly that because they're they're exoskeletons and shit and there's less like other is less
00:05:21
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and she wasn't really moving much or eating much but
00:05:29
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insides. It's a little bit harder to digest most of the time you just do crickets but they like the worm so we'll do them as like a little bonus here there but just trying to get her to eat we're just kept dropping those in she wasn't she was ignoring them mostly and then the other day she ate like 20 of them so got hungry again her when she's eating she's still like her sides look weird and stuff but I'm I'm at this point confident that
00:05:53
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Uh, I don't know if the word full recovery is correct. Uh, if there's long, if there's going to be like, I don't know, some long-term complications, like with shit like that. But I think as far as like her face is healing, she's eating, she's acting normal again. So even if like her body's still like mangled and it never goes fully back to normal, I think she's just going to live a long, happy life now. So it's kind of a Steven, Stephen Hawking sort of situation. Yeah.
00:06:21
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It's kind of nuts. There's some categories of pets where you're just like, all right, I hope you pull through. It's up to you to just put yourself back together. My dad was a veterinarian and people would bring in weird pets and be like, can you do surgery on my snake? And he's like, no. Yeah, maybe you put an adamantium skeleton in there. Right.
00:06:41
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Because my wife was like maybe we can bring into a hospital or whatever I'm like, I don't know what they're gonna do like what type of lizard It's a bearded dragon. They will take your money. I know. Oh, yeah There's an emergency pet hospital that would have easily charged us like three grand just to be like, I'm sorry But your pets not gonna make it
00:07:00
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Like there's probably like a bearded dragon specialist somewhere in the country, whatever they could actually help it, but most animal hospitals, like they're not, that's not an animal that's coming in enough volume for their, like the veterinarian probably has no experience with them. I think with lizards and amphibians, it's kind of like pushing the dent out of a pop bottle. You just kind of put your mouth to its mouth and tell it poofs.
00:07:21
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And they are like, it's just funny. I mean, you look it up too. It's like they're resilient creatures, right? I mean, they, these things get mangled in the wild and then they just, they, they can be fine. Um, it, maybe they're missing a limb or something, but they, I dunno, apparently lizards are pretty resilient creatures. So.
00:07:41
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I think we're in the clear now and I didn't have to explain to my kids why their lizard died a slow painful death because we didn't have the balls to just end its life when we should. I mean it might be an absolute agony and you just have no way of knowing because- It definitely was for like a week. I mean literally its face had like from below the eyes had just been peeled off.
00:08:03
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Yeah. So like, what does a lizard do when it's an agony? Sit there? Yes. It literally just sits there. It does when it's happy. Yeah. But when bearded dragons are distressed, their beard turns completely black. It's like orange and bright. And then when they're distressed, it's pitch black. They keep putting their head under your Corolla tires.
00:08:30
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It just keeps trying to, it jumps like long distance, long falls just trying to end its life. It goes to the coldest corner of its cage. Yeah. It's trying to slow down. Yeah. It's a true humanitarian effort that you've like bedside fed him mealworms though. Yeah. I think that's nice. To be clear, my wife did almost all of it. I think your wife's really nice. She's a big time animal lover.
00:08:59
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I mean, I think most of our arguments are related to why we can't have more cats, you know, I'm that one. And then after we lost our, our cat several months ago, it's, that's like a regular conversation now.
Pet Loss and New Considerations
00:09:18
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Why don't we get, we, can we get a cat? Oh, I found these kittens. I'm like,
00:09:21
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No, no, no, God damn it. No, I don't want any more cats. I'm trying to think of something I want as much as she wants a cat. That way, like, that she doesn't want to. So that way it can be like a fair trade. I'm in the opposite side of that. Yeah. Yeah. You want something to really stink the house up. Oh, yeah. Ferrets are nasty. I lived with someone who had ferrets. Your kids could be the musky kids. It's cool. But, uh, I'm, I'm,
00:09:48
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forward to when our dog has his natural passing. He's lived longer than average, unfortunately. But I'm kind of at the point where one, I want to rip all of the carpet out of this entire house and replace it. Yeah. So that it's clean. But also like I want to just be selfish. This is how I know I shouldn't have kids, because like I just want to like let's impulsively go away for the evening or like let's just make plans for the day that don't involve someone having to come home. Like let's. Yeah.
00:10:15
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I want to go on vacation without spending an extra vacation's worth of dollars for someone to come watch my fucking house and deal with all my mess. Yeah, you had children though, so you're screwed twice. You have animals and kids. The kids are easy. My parents want to watch my kids. Oh, okay, that works out, yeah. When you get grandparents in the area, the kids thing is, that's fine. We can go out any time we want. It's remarkably simple to get a night out.
Church and Celebrity Conversions
00:10:44
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planet. I mean, you can't be like, overly, you can't be spontaneous. But my mom will text me and be like, Hey, can the kids ever sleep over this weekend? Like if she hasn't seen him for a few weeks or something. So like, that that's usually fireproof. Yeah, she did just message she just texted me today. A flyer of their church of her church is VBS and was like, Do you want to do would you guys be interested in this for the kids? Like,
00:11:11
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No, sorry mom, I'm not interested in that. That comes up every year. What theme is VBS though? I don't feel like you should just write it off immediately. Yeah, you should write it off. The theme is always the same. Jesus Christ died for your sins and look what you did, you little jerk. My church put way more effort into VBS. We had a Star Trek themed one. Of course they do that. That's the bait, dude. It was fun. It was super fun.
00:11:41
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I wasn't there and I know it wasn't fun, Jeremiah. I was a kid and I had a great time. I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, I feel like I liked Bible school. Remember when Nickelodeon Lake was all about slime? We had a slime themed one or like a Nickelodeon whatever their game show thing was. I don't know. But we had a slime one one year. That was fun.
00:12:01
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We had one modeled after the Beverly Hillbillies, which was not really a topical reference, but I don't know. That's a weird one for a kids event. We had a good time. I don't know. I still had fun. I don't know what to tell you. My last VBS experience, I got molested by a camel. So I'm not, maybe I just don't share the same joy that you guys have for it. Why was it camel at VBS? It was like pet in zoo. Oh, I remember this. They marched it into the church. It was one of those cool themes that you love so much.
00:12:32
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We have a cool video of my, uh, during the, the, when they did a crocodile hunter one, this is when he was still alive. This was like 2003 or something. And, uh, so my dad, you know, being like member of the church in a veterinarian, they were like, Hey, can you like contact some of your like clients who have interesting pets and bring them in for stuff? And he's like, sure. And I mean, people who have interesting pets want to bring their interesting pets places. Like that's not a hard sell. Yeah. It's like the parent guy at the car show.
00:12:59
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Right. One of them, though, was a ball python, which they brought. And so they were demoing it on stage. And my dad was standing in the middle and there was a guy on either end like holding the snake stretched out, you know, so which is what you want to do with a constrictor is not let it curl up around stuff. Yeah. And.
00:13:16
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But midway through, they relaxed just a little bit and the snake wasn't being malicious. It was just like checking stuff out and it just wraps around my dad's shoulder and you see him like go up on his tiptoes a little bit and he's trying to pivot and he's trying to wiggle and like he's playing it cool in front of like 200 kids.
00:13:35
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And, uh, he played it cool the entire time that they got off stage and they were able to like unwind the snake. But he said, like, it felt like a vice was crushing his shoulder. Like he was very worried. He was like, I think these kids are going to learn too much tonight. Like this is going in a bad direction. That's scary. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, to each their own, I have friends that send their kids to VBS because it gets them, it gets them and they're both teachers. So it gets them, you know, an empty house for a week for several hours, but I won't do it.
00:14:05
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I don't believe in it. Aren't you glad, Jeremiah, that our parents were nice enough to let us go to vacation Bible school and also not make us watch our lizard die a slow, painful death? Yeah, it honestly sounds like a lot of things that I think maybe someone will have to unpack with a therapist, not their dad.
00:14:26
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I don't know if the kids ever went to therapy and what they unpacked was that their parents didn't sign them up for a vacation Bible school they knew nothing about. They're gonna get it. They'll get all that messaging for sure. I know what's gonna happen as they get older. My parents and my in-laws are gonna try to convert them.
00:14:47
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Well, that's why let them get their first salvation out of the way when they're young. Like, just knock it out now, and then you don't have to worry about it. It is way worse when they're older. I mean, we're watching Russell Brand go through his moment right now, and that's not fun. No one's having a good time. He just took his first communion in case anyone was wondering. Cool. It was kind of fun to watch Kanye go through it though, you know? When the whole Kanye thing happened, did you have to have some serious conversations with, like,
00:15:14
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extended friends and family about like, no, please stop listening to Kanye. Like don't, don't invite Kanye to your church. Don't do that. Like having to explain to a bunch of people, like Kanye, Kanye is mentally ill. And yes, he, that's right. He is, he is praying in the spirit and saying all these things now. That's true. However, just give it like six months. That's not what's going to be happening. Like just having to be open in his own porn company. Right. Like it's,
00:15:42
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Just having to, and people are like, no, no, no, I can tell this is a heart change. He means it. And I'm like, okay, cool. I think that entire premise underestimates how white some of my family is, but.
00:15:55
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Oh, to where they would, like, wouldn't even be aware of Kanye's existence. They don't listen to... Oh, no, these are people who don't listen to Kanye either. All they knew was, like, he's a hip-hopper who's now is making, like, a gospel album. That's right. He did make that gospel album, and that was actually decent, so... Yeah, that's the time period I'm talking about when people are like, oh, I think Kanye's... Yeah, they're like, I think he got Kim saved too, and I was like, okay. All right. Sure. I don't care about anything Kanye's ever done, ever.
00:16:22
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Uh, he had some good stuff back in the day. He's, uh, I think. Years from now, we might look at him the same way. We look at Britney Spears where we're like, man, as a society, should we have just like, what should we have done if he starts taking pictures of his butt cheeks on remote islands? That's the only, that's the only way I'll look at him the same way. I look at Britney Spears. That's the rebranding. I want, I want it like a, yeah. I don't know. Give it like two years of silence and then maybe like a Jojo Siwa rebrand. Yeah.
00:16:52
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How long until Russell Brand launches his new podcast, Rebrand? Ooh, I'm wondering, I feel like I could see him starting a church too, for sure. Oh yeah, Grifter's gonna grift.
00:17:03
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Yeah. And he'll probably like team up with Jordan Peterson or something like he'll just, he'll find some way to somehow is he still like Eastern religion. Yeah. Kind of thing. Yeah. He's not like the, he's not drifting towards at least for now. He's not drifting towards that conservative type of Christianity. His interest in it was it from being able to beat the allegations or it was more, it was like a perspective of Jesus as like a, like a.
00:17:33
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as like an activist type figure, a counter-cultural figure, truth to power kind of person. So he got interested in Jesus from that point of view. So I like to make fun of him and his drift towards it because it does, I don't know, it feels like we're just like going down a path.
00:17:57
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It's hard to tell with people like him, you know, with how much of this is like intentionally crafted to, like you said, rebrand in a way where it's just like, well, now I'm baptized. Now I'm taking my communion, my first communion. It's like, I don't know. Is this just like a plug and play thing? Is this like a trial? Let me try this one on because it's always kind of drifted through different things. So I don't know. I don't know where he's going to end up with it.
00:18:26
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Yeah, I've got nothing against people like who, you know, celebrities who are, you know, I would say get saved just as a blanket term, because I guess everyone will understand what we mean by that. But like, who get saved and are kind of like figuring that out live in front of people, because that's like, they're a celebrity, and they've lived a lot of their life in the public eye. Like, I definitely want to have grace for people like that of like,
00:18:48
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I you're used to sharing your life with people and yeah, you might look like a hypocrite or dumb or like you're just doing it for attention or something like maybe you are maybe you're not maybe this is genuine and you know, I would much rather hear them like do that like here child both get under like Catholicism then hear him talk about like Buddhism.
00:19:10
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that's fair i hate that yeah like dude i never want to hear about buddhism from a white person again yeah like stop it stop it especially a really wealthy white person like i love when the wealthy people are like i really connect with buddhism it's like i don't think you get it at all i guess i could say the same thing about wealthy christians nothing you've ever said is not centered around you yeah well that's what you seem very very uh you know into the
00:19:39
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you know, me side of all of this. That's my distrust with Russell Brand is so much like he's just, I can't even, I'm having a hard time piecing together like my feelings about why he feels disingenuous, but he's a peacock. I think it just, you do everything he does to the lens of like he wants attention.
00:19:59
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And that doesn't mean he can't be funny or interesting or say witty things or all that, like all of that stuff can be true. But yeah, it's always gonna make you doubt the reasons behind stuff. Is it like, is he out of content or is this genuine?
00:20:10
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Yeah. Yeah. Is it just something he's, you know, he's tried everything else. Now let's try this new thing. And it's, I guess sometimes it always just, it feels like a quest for maintaining, um, like just kind of maintaining an audience to some degree. But I think people can get to a point too, uh, where they don't even
00:20:33
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They might not even know that's what they're doing. Not to psychoanalyze people or anything, but it's just like, I think that happens with rich people who are in people who have had a public persona for so long. They don't know how to grow or better themselves independent of wondering how other people will perceive them, or maybe they need that validation to confirm for them that
00:21:01
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It's working. I don't know. It's just people people who go through anything in the public eye you just kind of question at at times how much of their shifts or growths or beliefs are Their own or just something that I don't know They just need to cycle through trying to find don't really have to wonder about it much if you don't hear about it
00:21:24
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That's the whole thing. Just do all of those things. Figure all that stuff out for yourself. It's just the constant broadcasting to everyone. It's always on display. There's always a production happening. And it seems like it's for an audience. That's the part that I don't like and I distrust.
00:21:46
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I just get so sick. I think everybody's so sick of that from celebrities, especially after the last like 10 years of just like the constant like moralizing about all this different stuff, you know, most of which they have no connection to, or, you know, it's, it's, they're interested in it to the, to the level that it affects them. And that's it. I don't know. I just do your personal development stuff.
00:22:15
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Personally, internally, personally, I wish more people were sick of it. What's always frustrating me is like, on the one hand, I appreciate, you know, that the church, quote unquote, has a lot of grace for people and accepts people who say, I'm turning my life around. I found Jesus, whatever. Like, obviously, they're supposed to forgive them and accept them and everything. Like, that's, that's fine. Actually, some of the only way that they seem to have
00:22:38
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Great for some people. But a lot of times it feels like when it's celebrities, it's less about that and more about like, oh, we got one on our team. Yeah, that happens too. We got one of the good ones. Or they're one of the good ones now. And it's like, you never were a fan of this person. You don't know this person's stuff. You don't understand how this person got here. All you know now is that they're saying they're on your team and you're ready to roll over and immediately accept them. And that's frustrating because I
00:23:04
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It just makes the church is such a gullible group as a collective. I'm not saying individual people necessarily, but they're such a gullible group for falling for like the right wing conservative evangelical grift every time. Yeah. Or almost I guess all the times that I've that I can remember. So probably plenty of times it hasn't worked out that we just don't hear about. But like I can't think of a single celebrity like if Kanye can get everyone on his side within a week, like who couldn't, you know, like I
00:23:34
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Like, this is a dumb example, but I think it's timely. If Drake has a conversion experience, if Drake was a Damascus because he's being BBL drizzied so hard that, you know, he hasn't come to Jesus moment, like, I think the church would look past all of the pedophilia allegations and the 1500 songs, you know, rapping about stuff that is completely antithetical to what they believe in, and they would immediately accept him.
00:24:01
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Like not, and not that that's not a good thing to do is accept somebody, but I don't think they would be critical about like what drove you here. Is it because you've actually had a life changing experience or is it because like we look like a safe lily pad to jump onto?
00:24:14
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Yeah, which is in part what was intentionally crafted that way, I think. If it looks like a safe lily pad and they believe it also is a safe haven, then the reasons by which anybody ends up there is irrelevant to them. Right. And again, a lot of that is good. Like that's not a bad thing.
00:24:35
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Stance to have it's just it's frustrating with the attention and the time and the and the resources and everything goes towards people who already have lots of attention and time and resources Because you wanted them on your team. Yeah, I think I think to think we take some of the harshness out of what I was saying too is like I do understand that there's a lot of external pressure on anyone who has any sort of
00:25:02
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following or prominence or something to be like, well, you got to use your platform now to promote the message, you know, like you need to tell people about what you're, what you believe now and try to spread the good word and stuff. And so there's that too. I mean, it's not, it's not all just. Yeah. If you have over 10,000 Instagram followers and you haven't weighed in on the Palestine Israel conflict, I mean,
00:25:26
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Kind of your piece of trash that's not really using your platform for good. Yeah, we can see it go both ways. I better be careful what I say. I don't like people using a bunch of dead bodies to hype their thing because they thought of some sort of a tie-in to it. Oh, it makes me mad.
00:25:51
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The only, the only hype over dead bodies in using that as an appropriate tie-in would be the death of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. That's the only acceptable time. The only dead body you can use for whatever you're doing. Exactly. Use the fuse. We're on a tightrope right now. So, yeah, okay. There's an account that
00:26:21
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posts a lot of like angsty christian stuff anti-christian stuff that just won people who usurp christianity to just make like bolster a platform whatever but now we're gonna flip this on its head because we also hate everybody else i think that's
00:26:41
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I think that's what it is. I know. That's what I was telling people is like, my cynicism is reaching a point to where like, I don't know if there's anywhere to go with this. And I don't know that anybody wants to hear it. Anybody more pious than us is a rube and anybody, you know, more pessimistic than us is just like a douche. It's like people speeding on the highway. You know, anyone going faster than using a maniac, anyone going slower than using it. Yes, that's yes. Let's go with that. I like that.
00:27:09
Speaker
I feel that I felt that like deep inside my bones when you said that. Okay, Casey. So what's this account? It was just the person said something along the lines of like, it was like, you know, when Christians say like something, some sort of like, or it was like when Christians say, I stand with Israel, you know, you can take that to mean that like, oh, it was never actually about.
00:27:35
Speaker
You never cared about life. You just cared about your thing. It was like this such a loose tie in. And it's not like somebody who's really talked about like Gaza or anything, you know, it's like not an issue that's on their platform. Right. They're just going for a dunk.
00:27:52
Speaker
It was like, yeah, it was like, oh, I can use this, this like very current thing in this like tangential way to promote my little, you know, to get, to get, to build off my soapbox that I'm on no matter what anyways. And it's like, dude, that is, it just felt gross. It's like, I don't know. They just, it was just irritating. Cause it's like, God, it's such a, you know, there's so much of what,
00:28:22
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You know, you talk about and harp on and stuff when it comes to like the church and everything like that, you know, that yeah, like it's harmful. And, you know, you know, it's it's caused people like pain and stuff like that. But like, they.
00:28:37
Speaker
There's 35,000 dead Palestinians in the past like seven months here and 70 or 80,000 wounded. It's like they're like don't make that like some tangential bullet point in like your list of junk on Christians with your to to get more likes on Instagram. Yeah, like a gotcha tweet or something like that. It's just it's just annoying. I don't know that the person really even thought of it.
00:29:04
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in those terms. And just that's how it struck me. And I was just like, you know, you don't talk about it. You don't talk about Gaza. And like that's so this is your like side sideline mention of what's going on there. You know, like this is your you have to have an opinion about everything that's happening because that's how social media engagement works. There can't be a thing happening that you don't have an opinion about. This this is also where like I think protesters can like lose me at times like
00:29:33
Speaker
I think by and large, I think the Gaza protests have done quite a bit. I mean, I think they're putting a ton of pressure on the administration. And so far, they haven't really done anything useful out of it. I mean, they pretended that they were going to shut down arms shipments for like three days and then immediately followed it up with a new bill. Oh, and by the way, House Republicans passed, like pushed this bill through today that was like,
00:30:01
Speaker
or over the weekend or something that basically any interruption – they want to sign this legislation that would mean that any interruption in shipments of weapons to Israel automatically halts funding of our own military, not working that well. They feel pretty differently about, I guess, Ukraine.
00:30:24
Speaker
Yeah, we've touched on that too. There's so many similarities between Russia and Israel at this point. The fact that we've picked sides as a country, as an administration, the way they have is
00:30:42
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Insane. I did see one funny meme that said Biden promises not to personally kiss every box of bombs being shifted. We're walking it back. We're getting tough with Israel. No more of that lipstick lips.
00:30:59
Speaker
Wasn't there a recent bill too? I don't know where it's at, but I think it passed like the house where it has to do with kind of redefining hate speech and anti-Semitism in a way that's just like you can't have a public opinion about what's going on. Yeah. The heavy bipartisan supported bill too. Yeah. Yeah. It passed the house. I don't know where it's at in Congress, but like it did pass the house with like almost no
00:31:27
Speaker
Like naysayers. I think there was 20 Republicans that voted against it and like 70 Democrats. So the Democrats did better, but like it's still overwhelming support for it. Yeah. And it's basically like what it boils down to is pretty much any criticism of Israeli government policy is equated with antisemitism.
Political Views and Support for Israel
00:31:46
Speaker
And you know, you can leave funding if you allow it on your campus and this and that. It's wild.
00:31:55
Speaker
From the free speech crowd, you know? Yeah, yeah. Well, we know how that goes. We all grew up in that. Free speech, unless I don't like it. And that's what they say the liberals do. Free speech for real Americans. Sorry, you must not have read the First Amendment. Yeah, you got me. It only applies to real Americans. And the only real Americans are?
00:32:16
Speaker
the free speech people, because circulatory reasoning works, because circulatory reasoning works. You're God-given rights to live as a good, Israel-supporting Christian boy. That's what the Constitution is there for. Yeah, the Israel thing is like really just, I don't know, it's just turning my
00:32:39
Speaker
brain into mush. It is just a level of support and like people that I thought I liked to some extent, you know, like the things that they say about it. I'm like, well, I keep reminding myself. Well, it sounds like you might have some more like damning examples. I have to keep reminding myself when I'm talking to people though, a lot of people don't know enough about the situation that they are equivocating like antisemitism with
00:33:04
Speaker
Israel itself. Like I had to explain to a couple of people, like, no, most of these college protesters are not protesting in support of Hamas. It's in support of the Palestinian people. And that gets very fuzzy because it, like, according to Bill Maher, it's the same thing. Well, there's a, there's always a handful of people that have some really questionable signs where you're like, I don't think you're helping the movement here, buddy. For sure. There's definitely some like death to America, death to Israel people in those crowds. They should know all about what that is. Cause that's exactly the
00:33:32
Speaker
line they pull out of their pocket when you talk about January 6th. It's like one of the dumbest demographics.
00:33:48
Speaker
college students like they're not, they're not very smart. They prove it over and over again. And I wasn't when I was in college either. Oh, yeah. We want to go back and read some Facebook posts. I tried to help with the racism problem. All right. You had interesting solutions. I can't believe that it catch on.
00:34:10
Speaker
I can't believe your black friend didn't spread any of that around. Wouldn't everything be better if we could all just kind of giggle about it, you know? Um, but yeah, like I've had to explain that to a couple of people who genuinely did not know, like they, they, because they're understanding the situation is like, Palestine is basically just full of Hamas, which is mostly terrorists. And that's who Israel's going after. Like, and so even if they think Israel's overstepping,
00:34:39
Speaker
They, I think that's, that's changed in the past like month and a half, two months. I mean, that's more like two, three months ago. Yeah. And I'm not so much talking about like everyday people, like I get not everybody is following this thing closely. You know, I can understand that. I think, I think when it's like public figures and politicians, like the things that they've said, like, dude, I, you know, we've, we've argued about it a little bit off camera and stuff here, but I, I actually legitimately liked.
00:35:08
Speaker
a lot of what RFK was talking about, like on the campaign trail when he was doing the podcast circuit and stuff. I am so off that wagon after like the way that he's responded to, you know, the Israel-Gaza war. He is, I don't even know what to do with like the level of insanity that like he's spouting.
00:35:32
Speaker
He did a whole, I don't know, he did like three different podcasts last week and talked about it. And it was just, the takes are so out there. Like what? I mean, what's his, what are his solutions here? Well, he's seen no evidence of Israel committing a genocide, which would, you know, whatever that, that word, everybody gets hung up on.
00:35:54
Speaker
Fine, put that word in a box. Let's not worry about it, right? But in actuality, like there's a genocide going on against the Jews because, you know, if you look at the populations in some of the surrounding Arab countries, then blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:36:10
Speaker
You know, it's just a continuing continual sighting of like, well, you know, um, in Iran, they, they do this and that. And when Israel does the same thing, like they're, they get all this criticism, but why isn't anybody criticizing Iran or Hamas can like kill women and children and stuff like that. And people don't bat an eye, but you know, when Israel does it, I feel like the whole world kind of got up in arms about it.
00:36:40
Speaker
Yeah, it's like nonsensical and, you know, I don't know, to those arguments to you just like, but yeah, that's, that's the thing is like, you don't get to play by the, if you want to be in the club of like, you know, democratized Western nations, you know, this and that, like you don't get to play by the same standards as Hamas. Like neither does the US. I mean, we've certainly done the same, you know, terrible things.
00:37:09
Speaker
host of them you know over the years but like that's the thing is like you can't cite like well Hamas did this so automatically it's all right if we just target like buildings at random and this and that.
00:37:21
Speaker
I don't know. I'm just going off on, on a whole tangent here, but I was just thinking of jokes while you were saying all that. Um, I do think that's one of the few things that could actually like make the debate, the presidential debates really interesting is it's something that could actually bring Trump and Biden together
Political Debates and Expectations
00:37:37
Speaker
is the bottle. We're just going to ask him a question about supporting Israel and they'll be both be like, yeah, like we're good. I mean, that's probably like, I've already said they can do whatever they want and Biden's going to be like, you know what? I'm not going to let him beat me. You could do double whatever you want. You can do whatever you want times infinity.
00:37:51
Speaker
That debate's going to feel like a South Park episode. It's going to be nuts. They've signed up for two. Unbelievable. I'm super excited for anyone who doesn't know, apparently both sides have agreed to that the mics of the other person will be cut off while you're speaking and there won't be an audience.
00:38:07
Speaker
Oh, just ready for some red faces. That's actually real sick because then you don't get the, you don't get like Trump feeds off of like the audience response and stuff real well. That's going to be a problem for him. I'm just waiting for him to like come over to Biden's lectern and try to like grab the mic because he's just not capable of not being the one talking. I hope they both get so pissed they simultaneously die of heart attacks together. That'd be romantic too.
00:38:33
Speaker
I mean, release the contents of their vowels. Yeah. So much McDonald's for McDonald's and ice cream. Be careful, Sam. Be careful what you wish for. We're going to have to start boat shopping in Kansas. That's right. I forgot we made that pack. They should both take a helicopter ride in like a 60s bell or in a violent thunderstorm over Iran. Exactly. We're on the same page.
00:39:02
Speaker
All right, should we talk about something fun? Yeah, let's talk about something fun.
00:39:08
Speaker
So I don't know if you guys saw the clip this week, but, um, I know, oh my God, I'm trying to think of where to start. I'm so excited about this topic. I'm so excited to play it. Let me, let me just, there's no better lead in than like the promo that, that they, that they posted this week or like a couple of weeks ago when it all happened, but, um, Christian nightmares posted it. It just, this is the best way in.
00:39:36
Speaker
Oh man, I'm all pumped up maniacs.
Hulk Hogan's Spiritual and Wrestling Persona Exploration
00:39:39
Speaker
Hulk Hogan here, and I just spent the afternoon with the 700 Club. You know, things are really starting to roll around this place, brother. We talked about spiritual healing, bringing the land, bringing the people back together, and it only happens through our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. So what you gonna do when Hulk Hogan, the 700 Club, and our Lord and Savior run wild on you, brother?
00:40:06
Speaker
So painful. So Hulk Hogan and the 700 Club are going to run wild on you. I think Richard Barber tries to talk like Hulk Hogan. I just I get that sound like hype man. Yeah. Like was he is he been wanting to come on there for years and like Pat Robertson was like keeping him at bay or something? Maybe so. I know Pat Robertson would have wouldn't have condoned that like, you know, duty free metal in the background.
00:40:37
Speaker
I, Casey, like this feels like a, um, Oh, what's one of those like mad, mad, mad libs or something. We have to fill out all the different words. This feels like a mad libs as Hulk Hogan going on the 700 club to talk about spiritual healing. It definitely does. It sounds like something you draft for like a game night, like scenario. What was he wearing?
00:41:01
Speaker
He was wearing a bright blue t-shirt that said John 316 on it, and then a bright dude, Blandana. And they did it... And bright blue, is it like 1980s church blue? Like the 700 Club, I'm sure, has curtains that are this color? Yeah, it was like the color of a Chevy Cobalt. Perfect.
00:41:22
Speaker
But he, uh, they did the interview and I don't know who the guy is that did the interview, but this guy, this guy, if he's not like an automaton, you know, like that Robertson created drone man. Like, I don't know who is. I mean, this guy is like, seriously, he's Christian C-3 VO.
00:41:48
Speaker
It's like everything every time he says more than like two words. You're like, God, this seems like like a computer would write a human interaction is what this guy sounds like. And so I kind of went down this Hulk Hogan rabbit hole because the interview, like there's some kind of interesting stuff in it, but there was a couple of things that kind of caught my ear and made me go.
00:42:18
Speaker
Hold on, that doesn't sound right. So I just looked up, I just went on YouTube and I looked up Hulk Hogan is a liar. And it is just a massive stream of videos about all the lies that Hulk Hogan has told over the years. And like this guy. Not as part of kayfabe, right? Not as part of his wrestling persona, but actual like,
00:42:45
Speaker
Real world wise. I don't know that there's a difference. He really wants to say that there's a difference between Terry and Hulk. But like the lines are real blurry when you got that much CTE. He is this guy is such a storyteller and like he can't keep him straight. He is like
00:43:06
Speaker
Just think about like the the biggest like compulsive liar that you've ever met like somebody that really could sell it Like that's Hulk Hogan and I pulled a couple of examples here from the interview that like kind of caught my attention So this this was this was one of them
00:43:32
Speaker
the single most memorable moment for you as a wrestler. If you had to narrow it down, what would it be? It didn't have anything to do with being in the ring. It had to do with after the match at Madison Square Garden.
00:43:45
Speaker
January 23rd, 1984, I wrestled the Iron Sheik for the WWF title. Iran had 444 American hostages and they were keeping our Americans and the Iron Sheik, he was the actual bodyguard for the Shah of Iran. He was the real deal and the fans knew it.
00:44:04
Speaker
and I was the all-american character Hulk Hogan. So he goes on to tell this story about how he wrestled the Iron Sheik for the title and I guess he won it and his dad was in the audience and he had been trying to get his dad's approval for decades and his dad was like, you know son, I'm sorry that I
00:44:26
Speaker
that I discouraged you from doing something that you that you loved and you're good at like this I'm really proud of you you know which is like a nice seconding story but I was thinking like January 1984 like that seems that seems awfully late
00:44:45
Speaker
It's all a part of the buildup though, right? It's like, it's not just a wrestling. That's how these guys work. And this is like the epitome. It's like a perfect clear cut example of how somebody like him weaves a story that's really compelling and definitely not true. So he had this wrestling match in...
00:45:08
Speaker
Oh, come on. Because he's leading this up towards it. It sounds like the way you started that story is he's the reason that the Iranian hostages were freed was because he wrestled the Iron Sheik. Yeah, like it was it was more than a match. It was a symbolic like clash of of cultures and world powers, you know, the American hero up against the Iron Sheik, you know, who guarded the Shaw Captain America versus the
00:45:35
Speaker
red skull. Exactly. It was that sort of thing. It was like, you know, both countries pouring themselves into these two, you know, avatars on the stage. Rocky versus Ivan Drago. That's exactly what it is. Yeah, that's exactly. Yeah, that's exactly a great example, except for this is scripted in various spandex suits.
00:45:57
Speaker
Right. Well, Rocky was scripted too, some might argue. Well, some might argue. I don't mean that that was a real story. I mean, that was a movie about a thing that wasn't supposed to be scripted. I'm just saying when you're sitting in an audience watching a wrestling match, it's like you just walk in and suspend reality for a moment. Isn't that the fun of it? It is. Like it's so fun.
00:46:20
Speaker
But so it's never mind. Continue the I get what you're saying for sure. Like the the part about the the the Iron Sheik, which I'm not a I'm not a wrestling guy.
00:46:36
Speaker
And like, I know that people who are, I know this stuff inside and out. So I apologize if I misstate anything during this discussion here, but Spencer Bland first, man. Oh, he does strike me as a wrestling dude. Is he? Yeah, I think he is.
00:46:55
Speaker
So the Iron Sheik was actually a bodyguard for the Iranian Shah, who is the guy that we pulled our support from, which is when the Ayatollah took over. It's like a classic American foreign policy blunder from the Cold War days. And it's part of why we're in such terrible relations with them now. But he was the bodyguard for Mohammed Reza Shah Pahlavi. But the Iranian hostage crisis
00:47:23
Speaker
took place like I was, it was like this 1979 through 1981 and it was 53 Americans. And so like they had been, they had been out for like three years before he's wrestling the Iron Sheik, you know.
00:47:43
Speaker
Which is, I think one of the videos that I watched, the guy was talking about it. It was a beige frequency, if anybody knows that YouTube channel. But he was talking about it. He said why he's so good at doing this and why he survived for so long while lying so much is because like he lies about things that are.
00:48:04
Speaker
They're related. They kind of make sense. Maybe they sound a little funny, but there's nothing that would immediately like jump out at the audience of this show being like, well, that can't be because blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like it totally makes sense that like, well, I know the Iranian hostage crisis and this and that and the other, you know? So like, I think he's gone unchallenged on like a ton of this stuff for a long time.
00:48:31
Speaker
But we'll get into some of the challenges that he's come up against. Oh, boy. That was the first one, right? That was like the first initial, like my grandma would call it a windy. It's kind of like a Brian Williams lie, right? Yeah, exactly.
00:48:49
Speaker
It's it's for the audience. You know, it makes it more fun in that helicopter until we found out you weren't. So he also later on in the interview, you know, he he's he's good at finding these like heartfelt moments to kind of feed the drama of whatever the situation is. So I guess he and Rowdy Roddy Piper did not get along well during their
00:49:17
Speaker
wrestling careers. They were kind of at each other's throats, rivals the whole time. But he claims that later in life, after they were tired, they actually like.
00:49:29
Speaker
Conversed back and forth and Rowdy Roddy Piper like would ask him about his faith and stuff like that But he was just not very open to it. So Here's a here's what he has to say about him. We started talking a lot and he started asking about my spirituality He really didn't connect but he was very curious, you know, he wouldn't surrender and all of a sudden he passes away and it was an Andy special about Roddy Piper and the very thing when they get ready to go to credits and
00:49:58
Speaker
It wasn't a text message, but it was a text message that was a voice message on the text. But this text message came in two days after he died. And the text message goes, I'm just loving you, my brother. I'm just walking with Jesus, walking with Jesus and loving you, my brother. I was like, he would have never said that when he was here. And Terry, he wanted you to hear it, right? Here come the tears.
00:50:29
Speaker
Who added this music in? Yeah, because he never said that when he was here. So it's just, it's amazing how things work, you know. First of all, whoever's running the sound board for the 700 Club needs to learn how to use a fader. Like you don't have to hard drop the piano music directly in. You build a bed. You build a bed for the story to lay in, you dumb dumbs.
00:50:54
Speaker
That's very true. No one that's worked that works there has ever run sound for anything other than like a terrible like organ only church band. They're doing the best with what they got. But yeah, so I actually I heard the audio from this like clip that he says, you know, showed up in his phone like two days after he was dead.
00:51:19
Speaker
I don't know where it came from. I don't know when it came from or who it was originally sent to. But yeah, like there is a clip that sounds, from what people say, sounds like Roddy, Roddy Piper being like, I'm just loving you, my brother. I'm walking with Jesus and this and that. But you know, it's too Hulk Hogan in this story and it's for sure like after he died.
00:51:43
Speaker
You know, this, this message showed up and it's so out of character with like who he was when he was alive. So, you know, it's pretty powerful when you think about it. It's just a lot of that. I, I don't even know what to make of that. I mean, is this, did it, is there like an actual timestamp that this message showed up two days after he died? There might be.
00:52:09
Speaker
I don't
00:52:29
Speaker
I want to know because I'm about to try get saved if it's true Rowdy Roddy's up in heaven loving you my brother loving you my brother walking with Jesus Amazing but it kind of sent me down a long rabbit hole of like things that Hulk Hogan has said over the years and boy I Found a Twitter thread
00:52:57
Speaker
That's all the things that he's claimed at one point or another So here's a good one. So the wrestler director Darren Aronofsky, you know that movie the wrestler have you seen that? No, it's very good. It's great. It's a great movie. I don't want to remember So Darren Aronofsky offered him the lead role three times Hogan claims he turned it down because he quote didn't deserve it and
00:53:23
Speaker
Aronofsky categorically denies that Hogan was ever considered for the role. Instead of Mickey Rourke. Yeah. Like I, is Hulk Hogan ever acted in anything besides wrestling? Yes. Oh my God. Did you guys never watch suburban commando? No, no, I never did. I feel like Hulk Hogan is the, like the acting equivalent of like a discount Gary Busey. Oh.
00:53:51
Speaker
Yeah. Well, Gary was pretty good back in the day. It was just, you know, his eggs got scrambled. He was a little less. So yeah, she got weird for Gary. Definitely. But my introduction to Gary Busey, not that we're talking about him. Uh, I know this is about Hulk Hogan, but my introduction to Gary Busey was black sheep, the Chris Farley movie. Oh yeah. Yeah. That was a funny one. That was the one with the big rock rolls down the hill and smashes the
00:54:21
Speaker
cabin or something, right? Yeah, Gary Busey is like a crazy person that lives in a camper in the woods. And then I realized that Gary Busey was playing himself in that movie when I realized who Gary Busey was. Very much so. I will not scroll by a clip of Gary Busey without listening to it every single time. I like that you're getting clips of Gary Busey. It shows. See, before we recorded tonight, we were
00:54:49
Speaker
originally supposed to have a guest tonight and we had to reschedule. So texted Casey and was like, all right, we're just gonna, you know, put one out with just us. Our guest had to reschedule. So let's just kind of browse around for topics. I'll text you if I find anything. And I Google, I look within like
00:55:10
Speaker
a very short period of time, Casey already is locked in on a topic and like, Oh, I got something great for you guys. And I'm like, I think this is when you know, and really begin to understand how Google has learned from the people that use the search engine, because Casey finds weird topics immediately. And it's because whatever he types in Google goes, we know what Casey wants.
00:55:38
Speaker
Show him the aberrations we're gonna give you more normal, you know, just more normal benign boring shit. Just like, here's some information on this silly topic. And it's like, not great. And I'm like, they're using Casey to help train the model. That's what they need Casey. A man of unique tastes.
00:55:58
Speaker
Casey could just be like, hey Google, just tell me something weird that I can talk about for an hour tonight. And Google would just be like, I got you covered Casey. Pretty much.
00:56:11
Speaker
I don't know how I come across all of them, but Christian nightmares did post that 700 club promos. That's true. That's where I first heard that. But I didn't even see that. And that must be because I don't stop on crazy stuff as much as you do. So what else is the Hogan claimed? He claimed he was an all state pitcher in high school and that he was scouted by both the New York Yankees and the Cincinnati Reds, but an injury prevented him from signing with either team. Straight out of high school, didn't have to go to college and play ball.
00:56:40
Speaker
Not when you're that good. Wow. Crazy. But then in other interviews, I heard him say that I wasn't a sports guy. I was in music. So like I was never an athlete because I was always just playing in bands and stuff. And what instruments do you lie about playing? Does that does it say guitar and bass? Oh, we're gonna we're gonna get into his music. Is he on Spotify? And I just don't know. He might be.
00:57:08
Speaker
We'll get there. It's so much fun. I don't know who this person is, but then he says, Hogan starred in Mr. Nanny and Santa with Muscles. Hogan claims he rewrote both scripts entirely only to have his writing credits stolen from him by the Dastardly Writers Guild. There's no way they would not let him rewrite the script and actually use it without him being a member of SAG. There's actual rules around that stuff.
00:57:37
Speaker
But yeah, I guess so. I highly doubt that anybody's like, hey, can you rewrite these kids movies to make them good? Hulk Hogan. I don't have a hard time believing that Hulk had notes for them or something like that probably never went anywhere. Like probably a director was like, yeah, oh man, that's great feedback. Thanks so much. We're going to totally think about that. And then they just told me, oh yeah, we definitely incorporated those ideas into the movie. Have your, you know, TRT shake and go back to your post.
00:58:06
Speaker
Cause he didn't even remember the, he's like, I have ideas. And they're like, we put them in. He's like, those were my ideas. Like they were your ideas, Hulk. And he's like, Oh, cool. I mean, honestly, that's probably close to what happened. I already thought the whole sex theme brother, when I was sitting in the tanning booth, looking like a seven 11 roller dog. Um, he says, uh, Hogan says, Oh, you know what movie he is in.
00:58:33
Speaker
that we've already hit on is a Rocky three. Hulk's in Rocky three? Yeah. Oh, I don't remember that. He and Rocky did like a promo fight for charity and Hulk Hogan played a giant wrestler named Thunderlips. Interesting. Thunderlips. I've never seen Rocky three. The ultimate man versus the ultimate meatball.
00:58:58
Speaker
That sounds kind of familiar. Thunder lips is not the name I would give the ultimate man as a wrestler though. That just, no, that, that seems like that would be like a slightly portney name. You'd give a female wrestler. Yeah. A very eighties name for a female wrestler too. Or the portney name you'd give an actual porn star. The signature move is like the clam quake.
00:59:29
Speaker
Hogan says he used to fight pride fighters in the 70s. Pride fighting championships was founded in 1997. He claimed he was the first one to slam Andre the Giant. That Andre weighed over 600 pounds when Hogan body slammed him and lied that Andre died a few days after he slammed him.
00:59:50
Speaker
which was on an episode of MTV Cribs. He holds up a boot and he goes, these are my favorite pair of boots. I was wearing these when I picked up and slammed Andre the Giant, tore out my whole back and he passed away, passed on brother a couple days afterwards, which is not true. He was still wrestling like five years after that.
01:00:10
Speaker
What? Did he think that his slam was the slam that ended his life? It sounds like he's never directly saying stuff like that. He's just telling little folksy tales about his life and you're supposed to infer that. There's a lot of that. It's a lot of inference involved in the whole Kogan lore.
01:00:34
Speaker
He was very close to a lot of like legendary events that no one can corroborate. I feel like there needs to be a coffee table book of like all of his little quips and quotes. He's like, you know, I was supposed to be on a flight on September 11th, but I tore out my back, you know, lifting a car off of a baby.
01:00:57
Speaker
Thank God, brother, it all would have been on the hijack plane. When I threw the undertaker off the hill in the sail and fell 18 feet to the floor underneath and then, you know, my back was messed up, couldn't get on that plane the next day, like, you know, four years apart. And I wrapped my hands around the edge of the cart and I said, let's roll. And I killed the terrorists and I jumped out the plane, parachuted to safety right before United 93 crashed into a field.
01:01:25
Speaker
and I saw the Air Force planes missile it. John Belushi sadly died in 1982, but apparently according to the Hulkster, he partied with him after WrestleMania in 1986. See, at least a story like that, you could be like, I mean, who knows what the Hulk was up to at that time? That might've been pre-salvation. And he could really have just truly been remembering John Belushi at a party
01:01:55
Speaker
Mistakenly thought he was at one at a later date based on. Sure. Any one of these could easily be forgiven. It's just he's mistaken about dates. Like he's had a long career. Partying with a celebrity is different than like a historical event that happened on a specific date. You know, like no one's no one cares when you partied with Belushi.
01:02:15
Speaker
Right. But certain hostages being freed, you know, that's a little bit pretty clear marker for that one. It's well more well marked for sure. Think of think of how bold you would have to be to just wing it on easily Googleable dates. Yeah, large number of people are very famous and basically do stuff like that. So I don't know what to tell you.
01:02:38
Speaker
The late, great Hannibal Lecter. Remember him? He was a great guy. Had a friend for dinner. He had a friend for dinner. We wish him well. The late, great Lecter.
01:02:54
Speaker
Man, I think you got that almost note perfect. That doesn't, for me, that doesn't beat the Gettysburg speech. He was like, oh, that's my favorite. He was like, oh, you beautiful boys going up that hill. I told him, don't go up that hill. You shouldn't go up the hill. But they went up the hill. And you're like, what is happening? He saw them. They were going up the hill and he said, wow, what a mistake. It's a direct quote. So bad.
01:03:26
Speaker
Robert Ealy, you know, he's not in fashion anymore. Have you heard this? And it's crazy because his audience just cheers and they love it. They love everything he says. I know. There's like, so there's another one on here that it's another one of those wrestling lore things, but he claims that the undertaker caused like permanent damage to his neck by botching a tombstone, which is like his move, I guess. Yeah.
01:03:54
Speaker
I remember playing that in a N64 wrestling game. I don't remember which one. Oh, dude. N64 wrestling games were so much fun. Yeah, they were great. N.W.O. Revenge. That was a blast. 1,500 characters that all look the same. There's one that I played with. It was one of the first games with an incredibly powerful character customizer.
01:04:20
Speaker
I can't remember which, which game it was, but it was, I mean, I remember spending hours like working on like a character, like to me that was the last time I spent a lot, not really hours, but I remember spending a lot of time
01:04:36
Speaker
crafting a character, something I hadn't done to that length in detail until Cyberpunk came out. Solidly. Yeah. We consistently maintained that wrestling was bad, but then guiltily enjoyed
01:04:54
Speaker
the N64 wrestling games. They were great sleepover games. Oh, yeah, so much fun. I never did enjoy watching wrestling. I had a friend who was into it, and that's where I would play the wrestling games. But he would do the move we did back in the 90s, where you would just record on your VHS player, whatever was on TV. And he would record wrestling matches, and we would watch him. I feel like I kind of pretended to like it and be into it, because my friend was.
01:05:24
Speaker
I always kind of remember being like, I couldn't, I could never suspend the reality. I'm like, but this is all scripted, right? Like it just didn't work for me. And I kind of feel like I missed out when I hear adults talk about how much they fucking loved it and even still love it. It's like, I don't know. I think my parents just ruined it for me to the degree where they're just like,
01:05:48
Speaker
They shit on it relentlessly and they're like, it's all fake. It's all pretend. It's not real. And they like that just got like so bored deep into my skull that anytime I watched it, I couldn't I couldn't enjoy it, which whatever. Yeah, they got what they wanted. Congratulations, mom and dad. I know. I kind of feel the same way. It's it's much better to just enjoy things. Yeah, which I'm obviously terrible at. It's been well established. But when I do, I love it. I fucking love when I enjoy something.
01:06:16
Speaker
Okay, so Hulk Hogan claimed that he was asked to join a startup company known as UFC. While UFC wasn't nearly as popular as it is today, Hogan said he wouldn't have joined because guys get beat up when the fight should be stopped. So while he was in the WCW, Hogan said that a pay-per-view about between himself and Mike Tyson was supposed to commence. Hogan's excuse as to why it didn't happen, Tyson was too scared.
01:06:42
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Because when you watch old clips of Mike Tyson, that's definitely one thing that comes through is how scared he was of everyone around him. Yeah. What a man. He's going to beat that poor kid to a pulp. I hope he does. I don't know. Age is rough, man. Like I- It's pretty near difference. Yeah.
01:07:02
Speaker
But I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen, but I hope that he destroys it. But I think he knows that he's putting on a show and whatever. That's my worry is that people are building up to be this whole thing. Like when Floyd Mayweather and Conor McGregor fought. And it's like now at the end of the day, they're both doing it for show. Like it sucks.
01:07:24
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. It is weird. Jake Paul, it's Jake Paul, right? Is that his name? It just feels pathetic. What's the reward at the end of that, right? Yeah, obviously Tyson's one of the greats, but you're going to a ring with someone
01:07:43
Speaker
who is 30 years older than you. And you're just acting like an arrogant piece of shit about it the whole time. Like if you win, it's not like you get like this, like big congrats, like congratulations. You you beat somebody who is 30 years older than you. Yeah, but it's Mike Tyson, though. It doesn't matter. Mike Tyson has been out for so long. Like I don't think it matters because it's Mike Tyson. I mean, that's that's
01:08:09
Speaker
That's why people will watch it, but they're watching it because they want Mike Tyson to beat the shit out of someone who's 30 years younger than him.
01:08:17
Speaker
But it just feels like Jake Paul's just an idiot. Like he's obviously been punched in the face too many times. He's a marketing genius is what he is. He might be an idiot, but like he knows what he's doing. Yeah, he does. They are good at making money, especially when it involves defrauding their fans. And I'm sure if you look at Mike Tyson's bank statements right now, you could imagine why he might be doing this. And, and apparently Logan is actually doing a really good job in the WWE. His older brother, Logan Paul,
01:08:45
Speaker
That's what I heard. Showmanship wise, and I mean that's a very difficult job. Obviously it's all fake, but I mean the athleticism is not fake at all. I didn't even realize they were. I almost said Logan Paul without realizing why I would have swapped
Wrestling Stories: From Logan Paul to Von Erich Family
01:09:02
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that. He's much more successful with WWE than he is with Crypto Zoo.
01:09:08
Speaker
Well, obviously or boxing, Logan didn't do super well in his exhibition boxing matches. And so he moved over the WWE and it looks like, like kind of like round a Rousey. It's like, Oh, actually you're pretty good at this. You should stick with this.
01:09:20
Speaker
Yeah, she, oh boy, she's a, she's a different story. Um, in Hulk Hogan's autobiography, he made the claim that Elvis was a huge Hogan fan before Hogan joined in the WWF. Uh, he did work in Memphis in 1977. However, Elvis died in 1977.
01:09:41
Speaker
This was a fun one. Hogan claimed that both Metallica and the Rolling Stones wanted him as their base player, but Metallica members Lars Ulrich came to Hogan himself to ask him to play with the group.
01:09:54
Speaker
Holman, Hogan claimed he had been offered a, oh, no, no, no. So there was more story behind that, but basically like he said in an interview or something like that, that like he was real good buddies with Lars Ulrich from Metallica. And that when, uh, I guess in the eighties, I don't know a lot about Metallica, but they're, they had like a van accident in Europe or something and their bass player died.
01:10:19
Speaker
Oh, did not. And Hogan claimed that he was talking to them about joining as their base player, which basically Lars Ulrich responded to it on Howard Stern or something and more or less said, I don't even know Hulk Hogan, much less good buddies with him.
01:10:42
Speaker
He's like, maybe he was under a different name back then, but like, I certainly don't remember us ever talking to a Hulk Hogan about whatever. And he did claim that he tried to, he tried to leverage relationships to join the Rolling Stones as their base player, but didn't get anywhere. It's like he hopes that if he speaks things in, like, if he can speak things into existence.
01:11:07
Speaker
Well, I think a lot of this also could be him just like making jokes of members of the rolling. So it's like, I should meet, I should join you guys and play bass in the tour. And they're like, yeah, totally. You should. And then like that's locked in his head as a story. Like they want me to join and play bass. Like he's that dude. Yeah.
01:11:22
Speaker
Some of them do come off that way. There's one that gets mentioned in a lot of things about how he claimed that he wrestled 400 days a year in his prime because his reasoning was because he was flying back and forth from Japan so much and the time zones. That was the explanation of it. But it's one of those things where it's like, okay, maybe he was just speaking in generalities and trying to make a point.
01:11:51
Speaker
There's so many of those though that he just, I don't know, it's crazy. He claimed Harley race, came to the arena with a gun in Kansas City in the 1980s and set the ring on fire. And then when he ran into Hogan, he shook his hand, thanked him for all he had done for wrestling and asked for a job.
01:12:11
Speaker
He sat next to Carrie Von Erich on a flight to Japan 72 hours before Carrie killed himself, which is, he's in that Von Erich family that the Iron Claw's about. I haven't watched it yet, but I heard it's great. I've heard it's phenomenal. I also think it's wild that apparently they left one of the brothers out of that movie completely, and the brother they left out
01:12:39
Speaker
who had also killed himself had done so because he felt like he was never part of the family that's rough like he was always like the he wasn't a wrestler he wasn't a wrestler he tried to be wasn't good at like he tried to like do the things to feel like he belonged to the family and he couldn't and that's why he
01:13:02
Speaker
claim that that was the claim kind of lame. They shouldn't put that in the movie. And then they didn't put him in the movie. And you're like, that feels like he's already dead. The problem that it's crazy. Kill himself twice. He can't. Well, there's a there's more and more and more of these, but like that's kind of some of the the key ones. But let's talk real quick.
01:13:26
Speaker
about his music career because he is a musician. So he kind of claims that he was like a studio musician, like a session, a session bass player or something like that. You know, back before like he. It's just so funny. I can't get it. I'm trying to make him a bass player. That's what I'm trying to picture him as like.
01:13:53
Speaker
getting into it and it's just. He did actually play and like he has made music and stuff. It's just like to the extent that he says he did is I don't know. Did he say he he played bass on Steven Seagal's Legends of the Crystal Caverns?
01:14:12
Speaker
Oh man, that would have been a, that would have been two warriors coming together. They would have had to like Highlander each other because they're going to be the only ones. Yeah. So they probably hate each other. Probably. I mean, Steven Seagal is a very hateable character. Oh my God. Yeah.
01:14:30
Speaker
So, um, he did a few different things musically, like, and when he was going back and forth from Japan, like he did some music with a abandoned Japan where he did actually play bass from what I was able to gather. And it, I mean, he did sound like he was pretty good. There's some video of him playing in Sturgis like impromptu. He just jumped on stage with the band and started playing like an old Chuck Berry song or something.
01:14:58
Speaker
Uh, and I, I mean, he does seem like he's a somewhat competent musician, somewhat competent bass player. Okay. Let's keep that bar nice and low. Right. That is true. But the most, the most amazing, uh, musical.
01:15:17
Speaker
You know, production that he did was like back in the, I think it was in the early nineties. He put a band together of like him and some other wrestlers called Hulk Hogan and the wrestling boot band. And they actually like put out an album. Oh, and you can go listen to it. Is it on YouTube? Yeah. And it's, I have, it's, it's terrible. It's wrestling themed lyrics and stuff.
01:15:46
Speaker
Oh, yeah. And like the most infamous track on the on the record is called Hulkster in Heaven. All right. And it's so he claims that it was like, God, I can't remember what the year was, but it was like in the early 90s, he had like met some like make a wish kid. The year is probably a lie anyway.
01:16:14
Speaker
it probably. So he met like this Make-A-Wish kid like I apparently he did do some stuff with Make-A-Wish so like that that part of it could be true for sure but the kid had like cancer and was in really rough shape he had like doctors with him and stuff and like I listened to him tell this story in a couple of different interviews and like it is funny just to hear him like freestyle on the spot like in one of them he's like
01:16:40
Speaker
He's like, you know, we had a, had a physician with him, had a, you know, a nurse attendant to him hooked up to all these different things. He's, you know, the kid was, the kid was in rough tape. I remember that his, his body odor was like this, it was the smell. It wasn't, it wasn't bad. It was just a very unfamiliar smell, something I hadn't smelled before. It was like more or less like, uh, he had death on him. You know, he smelled like death, right? And he like, you know,
01:17:10
Speaker
Talk to the kid and the kid was a huge, you know, Hulk fan. Obviously. He was like, I'm going to get you a seat at Wembley Stadium when I do this summer slam thing, you know, right up front. Guy's lying to cancer his children now. So he claims that he
01:17:30
Speaker
Was he got to the place and he was like getting ready and stuff and when he was wrestling He didn't see the kid in the audience and he asked about him and they were like, oh he died He died before the wrestling match. So he didn't make it
01:17:46
Speaker
And like, I don't exactly know what the timeline he claims between when he like met with the kid and talked to him to win, you know, the wrestling match happened and stuff. But I do know that he wasn't in the UK at the time. But where it gets fun is he says like, you know, that night we sat down me and so and so. And, you know, we wrote this song Holster in Heaven.
01:18:14
Speaker
Uh, you know about this kid and we ended up writing like a whole bunch of songs like once the first one came out, they all came through. It's like it's about Hulk Hogan. It doesn't really sound like it's about someone else.
01:18:23
Speaker
Well, the kid is the kid is the Hulkster. Oh, so here's also also about Hulk Hogan. But go ahead. That was the kid's defining feature, you know, the kids and aside from the cancer, it was that he was a huge Hulk Hogan fan. His last his dying wish was to just be like chokeslam by Hulk Hogan and Hulk Hogan accidentally killed him. He literally wanted to act out the wrestler. Just his internal organs.
01:18:53
Speaker
So this is a piece from Hulkster in Heaven. This is the chorus.
01:19:20
Speaker
I'll see
01:19:47
Speaker
Trumpet. I love the trumpet. Yeah, I'd say that the trumpet and the piano, they're actually cooking. I don't care about the rest of it, but that's pure 80s. That's a lot softer than I was expecting. I was expecting Hulk was going to have a little more rock and roll. I feel like it sounded like it was recorded live in a garage with one take. That's what it feels like.
01:20:08
Speaker
That sounds like they were still figuring out like the tempo and some of the words while they were recording it. Yeah.
01:20:16
Speaker
God damn, that was horrible. Here, I'll read some lyrics to you. It says, this starts out, I read it in the papers. I saw it on TV. I guess there'll be a one empty seat when I wrestle at Wembley, which is how he pronounces it in the song. I used to tear my shirt, but now you've torn my heart. I knew you were a Hulkamaniac right from the start. You were my friend. I'll see you again when the Hulkster comes to heaven.
01:20:45
Speaker
We'll tag up again. It sounds like if Hulk wrote a children's book. It sounds like if Hulk was writing children's Valentine's Day cards. We'll tag up again. The world just lost another Hulkamaniac. A friend to the end. I'll see you again. I wish Hulk's love could bring you back again. Oh my. See, it's just about him. He's thinking about himself in the third person.
01:21:12
Speaker
He calls him back in the ring. He's like, I lost a good friend that day. Everyone should feel sorry for me. When I climb back in the ring, I know we'll win this fight. I wish you were here at ringside to cheer me on tonight. The spotlight now grows dim and now it's not on me. The prayers we've said together are still our guarantee.
01:21:37
Speaker
This is legitimately sounds like a book if you would read to your children if they loved Hulk Hogan. Right. It's Goodnight Moon with the Hulkamania. Yeah. Goodnight Hulkster. Goodnight Bandana. Goodnight Boots. Goodnight shirt. Goodnight shirt. Goodnight shirt.
01:22:03
Speaker
Good night syringes.
Hulk Hogan's Scandals and Legal Battles
01:22:08
Speaker
Oh man. Yeah. So like the, the, the more prolific, like, uh, the more, um, consequential lies that he's gotten caught in were, you know, the, and we don't definitely don't have time to go into all this stuff, but like, he was at the heart of like a big steroid scandal in the nineties.
01:22:30
Speaker
where he was supposed to testify under John Doe, and somehow it became known that he was one of the people that was involved, and then he tried to get ahead of it by going on Arsenio Hall.
01:22:48
Speaker
and he did this catastrophic interview where he just talked over himself and said that he never used steroids, that he was big since he was 10 years old, but then he did use them on a couple of occasions for injuries and this and that and the other, and it just blew up in his face. Of course. He had a very public, by the sounds of it, divorce
01:23:14
Speaker
where, I don't know, I guess it went really sour. Do you guys know anything about the Hulk Hogan Bubba the Love Sponge controversy? Nope. Can't say I'm up on that one. Is this where he tries to sue the creators of SpongeBob for stealing his idea? I was the original yellow guy, brother.
01:23:41
Speaker
No, so Bubba the Love Sponge was like this shock jock DJ morning show guy in like Tampa or something like that. He was like really big, like very prominent. I think he was like on a lot of stations across the US and was like a name. What I mean, it's so done. What the fuck?
01:24:01
Speaker
And he looks like every middle-aged fat boomer that has a Harley in Tampa. Oh, yeah. OK. So he was a very prominent radio personality and kind of tangentially connected to Howard Stern and Opie and Anthony and some of those types of people.
01:24:27
Speaker
But when Hulk Hogan was going through his divorce, he apparently like lived at Bubba the Loves, but they were like best friends and he lived at his house for like four months or something. And supposedly, uh,
01:24:41
Speaker
Bubba, whose wife was like this, you know, um, she looks like what a, like a pudgy boomer with money would purchase for themselves in Tampa. And so she's kind of like this, uh, you know, um, bimbo eat chick and.
01:25:02
Speaker
Bubba apparently pressured him and kept approaching him about having sex with his wife. Oh. According to Hulk or according to a third party? This one's undisputed. Oh, OK. All right. All right. This is one where Hulk actually came out looking pretty good at the end of this whole deal. But basically, Bubba was a real Jerry Jr. type. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And it ruined his career about as hard as it did Jerry.
01:25:31
Speaker
So apparently Bubba and his wife keep pressuring Hogan to sleep with his wife and they were just talking about it, talking about it, talking about it. And at, you know, the Hulk hit a low point and said, screw it, let's do this. So he ends up having sex with Bubba's wife. Unbeknownst to him, Bubba had cameras set up throughout the house.
01:25:57
Speaker
Shocking. Oh, there's a sex tape out there of Hulk Hogan. Yes. This sounds familiar now. Yeah. This is a big deal. Yeah. I remember this. This has like big implications. Before after Hogan knows best. What year was this? I don't know what the timeline is. Do you have a year for when he? Well, you could look at when Gawker closed because this single handedly destroyed Gawker as a media institution. I remember this.
01:26:27
Speaker
So Hogan didn't know that he had been videotaped having sex with this lady, right? Bubba not only tapes it, but he keeps the recording, which his whole story after the fact is like, you know, Hulk knows that I have security cameras in my house. He knows that. And I've always had it. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't on purpose. It was just, you know, I have cameras in my house, you know, and it's like, okay, but you recorded him and then you kept it.
01:26:53
Speaker
And then you kept a copy, and apparently you can hear him on the audio at some point say, well, if we ever need to retire, well, this'll come in handy. And it's supposed to be his best friend. So he not only keeps this recording, but he keeps it in a safe at the radio station.
01:27:13
Speaker
And it's like a terrible shock jock morning show where they're always like messing with each other and trying to like prank each other and stuff. He had some people that he feuded with back and forth, some employees that left under bad circumstances. Anyways, one of these employees gets ahold of this tape and shops it, sells it to Gawker. So Gawker publishes this in part sex tape.
01:27:40
Speaker
And everything blows up and people are like, dude, you had sex with your buddy's wife. That's disgusting. Shame on you. You're a terrible person, this and that and the other. Then as things go along, it turns out like, Oh no, this is something that.
01:27:55
Speaker
He Bubba wanted him to do the wife wanted him to do like this was a consensual arrangement What's not consensual is the fact that it was recorded without him knowing and then kept and held in like as a rainy day fund a get-out-of-jail-free card for Bubba and his wife So Bubba's career is just destroyed like everybody hates him
01:28:18
Speaker
And he's pretty much went from being like a big national celebrity, you know, to whatever extent, making a ton of money and kind of like a rising star in the radio world to, I don't know, he's like reading the weather on like the old station or something now. And just whining about this for all of eternity, just like, you know what, you know,
01:28:40
Speaker
I'm sorry that I let him have sex with my wife. I'm sorry. People do different things. It's like nobody cares that you let him have sex with your wife. It's that you recorded your friend and then kept it to sell it because you're a scumbag.
01:28:57
Speaker
Then Hulk Hogan sues Gawker and it's this huge public trial. It's crazy. Like some of the footage from the trial is nuts. Like at one point they're, they're just kind of like dissecting Hulk as like a personality and like delving into all this stuff that he lied about and all this. Um, he's there's video of him on the stand being asked if he does in fact have a 10 inch penis, which he had to explain that.
01:29:23
Speaker
No, Terry Bollet doesn't have a 10-inch penis. Hulk Hogan has a 10-inch penis. Hulk Hogan is a character that I play, and that character has it kind of like Alex Jones's personality having a 10-inch penis.
01:29:37
Speaker
Why are they even asking about the size of his penis on the stand? What's the relevancy? I think it's like a character assassination, like discredit him as a person. Oh, I get you. To, you know, kind of lied about it. Oh, you try and discredit all of men everywhere.
01:29:57
Speaker
Uh, there was also some recordings of him that came out during this whole thing where he was dropping some N-bombs. Yikes. Yeah. Did not go over well. Oh really? Huh. Okay. Him and Mel Gibson became pretty good friends after that though. The N-word. It's not in style anymore. Have you heard this? Have you heard about this? Robert E. Lee said the N-word all the time. Nobody better than I. You know.
01:30:25
Speaker
I can't tell if that's an exact quote too. That's what's hard. He said it somewhere. You could say anything in that voice. I don't know. I would hear Trump say the N-word and then immediately have to fight the strongest urge he's ever felt in his life to just say it. Dude, you'd have to get him in front of the right audience too where he's like, he thinks it would impress them if he just said it. Yes, he would do it. You could watch him do the dance of like,
01:30:52
Speaker
You know, uh, some people say it's not a big deal. Some people say, you know, I don't say it, but some people say it and they say it's fine. I've got, I've got so many, so many friends and they say I'm allowed. I can say it because they said I could say it. I'm such a friend to the black community better than a sleepy Joe Biden. You know, some of my friends say that I'm the first black president. Can you believe this first black American president? That's for sure.
01:31:23
Speaker
Oh my God. So anyways, Hulk wins the suit against Gawker and just completely destroys them. Good. And the whole institution barred down as a result of it. He got a lot of money out of it. He did. I'm sorry. I'm just thinking to my head, Donald Trump, Alex Jones and Hulk Hogan, nightmare blunt rotation.
Imaginary Conversations and Podcast Community Closing
01:31:45
Speaker
It is. Oh my God. I honestly, I would love to be just in that room. I don't want to smell it.
01:31:52
Speaker
But I would like to hear it. How would they figure out who takes turns of like who gets to talk? They just talk over each other the whole time. Alex and Trump are in the same room. Alex won't be talking. All he'd be hearing is just a bunch of sucking noises.
01:32:08
Speaker
Um, but, but Hulk and Trump, I feel like they probably would, would not hit it off. It's basically just an episode of flagrant too. Um, so yeah, uh, Hulk Hogan is a, is a, what a, what a crazy dude. Uh, so many weird twists and turns in his life. A few of them real, a few of them imagined and embellished.
01:32:37
Speaker
But I don't know. I don't know what my perception of Hulk Hogan, I guess I kind of liked Hulk Hogan as a personality. You know, maybe I still do. I don't know if this like ruins it for me. Yeah. Because it's like he's never, it's almost better that he's never really been an honest player and he's just like living into that persona and blending the lines between his character and reality. And when he has to delineate them, you almost watch it fracture his brain for a moment where he's like,
01:33:08
Speaker
Uh, this could ruin my entire life. I don't want to purge myself. And it's like, there's like probably a short circuiting moment for him. Uh, it's
01:33:17
Speaker
I don't know. It's nice. You know what? It's nice. It's nice to see characters and people like that when they're just not ruining the world for everybody else. Like that's why Trump was entertaining on The Apprentice. Trump would be entertaining as fucking shit if he did anything on live TV. That's why he was entertaining halfway through with the 2016 presidential campaign. You're like, this guy just says whatever he wants. Yeah, that's nuts.
01:33:41
Speaker
And then you start getting that sinking feeling. You're like, wait a shit. Yeah, we're, we're getting it. Yeah. Yeah. It's fun to watch the roaches dance. Like Trump's ruined now for me. Like I, if Trump went back into reality, if he loses the election, he goes, if he tried to go back into reality TV, it would just, I don't think I'd have the stomach for it. I wouldn't think it was funny, but prior to.
01:34:03
Speaker
any political involvement. It's like, yeah, we all knew it was an entertaining facade. Like he's not an honest player. Everyone knew he wasn't even honest. I remember my dad talking about how full of shit he was and how The Apprentice was an awful show and Trump's a garbage person for the way he treats people. And it's so unchristian. And then he runs for president and they're like, we love you, Donald Trump. And it's like a weird shift that happened because he just
01:34:31
Speaker
They just like were able to project their ideology onto him. But yeah, I mean, that's why he was so successful at it and why it was very entertaining in the same way. That's Hogan. If Hogan ran for president in one, Hogan wouldn't be fun anymore now.
01:34:46
Speaker
No, he really is. He's really gone the route that makes sense for him. Yep. Good friend. Hey, if that's all he wants to do, then I'm all for it. I'm a Hulkamaniac. And he got to fuck some dirtbags wife and win. So good for him. Okay. So, uh, should we close with a prayer?
01:35:07
Speaker
Yeah, oh, I can't wait. This is gonna be the most, this is gonna be the closest to God I've felt in a long time. Let's go. Here we go. What message do you now convey at this stage of your life? It's a spiritual war in this fallen world. To turn to the truth, seek him and he shall find. To step outside their comfort zone and, you know, accept Christ knowing that he would heal the land and heal this nation and heal the people.
01:35:36
Speaker
It just seems like such an easy choice for everyone. If you'll just surrender, accept him as your savior. Okay, two things. One, Hulk has a great voice. Two, the guy interviewing him definitely
01:35:50
Speaker
Definitely started kind of trying to do a little bit of Hulk voice too. Yeah. He was real close to putting on a bandana at one point during the interview. That's, that's not an interview. He's like, he's a, he's a human T-ball stand. Forget throwing soft balls. He's just like directly off my snout, sir.
01:36:12
Speaker
It's like kind of robotic. Like you said, see through Lex Friedman. Is that his name, Lex Friedman? Yeah. Oh, gosh, he sucks to listen to him interview people. It's rough. It's like it's literally like if someone just programmed a computer to ask questions and then wait for an answer. Yeah. Yeah. He's another one that gets into the like, you know, everything's love and we just got to spread love.
01:36:37
Speaker
But he talks like he doesn't have feelings. He talks like he's never felt a feeling in his life though. Like he speaks that he's totally devoid of emotion. Yeah, there's not much joy in there. It doesn't seem like. Yeah. So thank you to all the Hulkamaniacs in the audience. And, uh, if you are a wrestling fan and I, I committed a sin against wrestling history.
01:37:07
Speaker
or lore, you feel free to message me and let me know how I did it. Because this will be the case, he will publicly apologize. He won't. This is probably the only thing you could get a public apology out of any of us for. Right. Yeah. I'll even do it in Mandarin, John Cena style. So yeah. Thanks for listening, everybody. If you like the show, I know we say this all the time.
01:37:34
Speaker
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01:38:00
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Discord's pretty fun. There's a lot of cool people in there, and it's not all just doom and gloom religious talk. There's lots of music, video games, movies and TV shows, nature stuff, pets, all of that kind of stuff. Especially anything funny. If you come across something funny, you can post it in the Discord. So join up. Link's in our Instagram bio.
01:38:25
Speaker
And yeah, without further ado, thank you for listening and we will talk to you next time.