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The Bad Batch S3:E5 Review - The Return
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This week on This is the Wayseekers, we're continuing our weekly Bad Batch Discussions with Episode 5 "The Return"
This is the Wayseekers is a Star Wars podcast, with new episodes every other Friday @ 8:00am CT. Join your hosts Austin SWE and Scotty Holiday SW as they navigate their ways through the Star Wars galaxy.
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Introduction and Hosts
00:00:00
Speaker
Right when they land on Barton IV, we kind of start to see Hunter and Crosshair actually acknowledge each other's existence for once. The boys are fighting. Yes, the boys are fighting. I was like, immediately they get into this argument.
00:00:23
Speaker
Welcome back to This is the Wayseekers, a podcast for Star Wars fans by Star Wars fans. My name's Austin SWE. I'm here with Scotty Holiday on this holiday because Scotty, did you know that March 7th is National Name Tag Day? And I just did our name tags. Oh.
00:00:40
Speaker
OK, happy International Name Tag Day, I guess. You know, it's funny is I wanted to do an intro like that where I was like Scottie Holiday and play off that. Oh, it's a holiday. So I looked up holidays and then I saw a name tag was on there. So I was like, I could fit that into the intro. It left more to be desired, but that's. Yeah, it's OK. It's whatever.
Excitement for 'The Bad Batch' Episode 5
00:01:02
Speaker
But we're talking about.
00:01:05
Speaker
The Bad Batch today, I'm super excited. But before we get into that, this is the Wayseekers releases every Thursday during Bad Batch season on YouTube and your podcast platforms. So make sure to subscribe to us so you never miss out on an episode. All right, Scotty, which Bad Batch episode are we talking about today?
00:01:22
Speaker
Today, we're going to be discussing episode five, The Return. And can you believe we're already on episode five? Yeah, it's going a little fast. But then again, remember, we had those three episodes at the start. So it's like, in reality, we'd only be on episode three. Oh my gosh, we'd only just now be getting to the Crosshair and Omega team up. Can you imagine that? I know. I know. When I was the one who was like, yeah, I like it fast and hard. I just like the bad batch. So it's cool.
00:01:49
Speaker
Well, yeah, I just want to start by saying that this episode, once again, I know I've said this every fucking week for Bad Batch season three favorite episode of Bad Batch or at least favorite episode of this season. I mean, for me, this is the sequel to my favorite episode prior season two, episode 12, The Outpost with Crosshair and Mayday.
Crosshair's Redemption Arc
00:02:12
Speaker
R.A.P. Mayday, the hot biggest clone.
00:02:14
Speaker
oh my god r.i.p r.i.p but that episode i always loved it i know everybody else has always loved that episode it's it's a standout of season three exactly and it's the start of crosshairs redemption and if you followed along every week for these bad batch episodes
00:02:30
Speaker
You know that I'm a sucker for this goddamn redemption story, and I'm absolutely loving it. And we got that in this episode as well. Even further, we talked about last week, what do we think is going to happen? Are they just going to instantly kind of mesh together? Is there going to be a conversation at the start? Scotty, I want to ask you, how did you feel about what we got there, where it was kind of crosshair being distant, avoiding, conversing at all, and then really
00:02:59
Speaker
ignoring Hunter and Hunter and crosshair kind of being at odds here. How do you feel about that? Yeah, it's like we just talked about it like three days ago or something. Right. Yeah. Well, let's not talk about that. But yeah, I really liked because if anything, I feel like the only thing we missed was the initial just like awkward period of them just giving weird looks and like having no conversation. So we got to the point where they were like getting
00:03:27
Speaker
or crosshair was being distant and it was clearly irritating a hunter. So I really like that we finally got to see that play out, because that's something that we talked about in last week's episode that
Omega's Role and Character Dynamics
00:03:38
Speaker
we wanted to see. We didn't want them to just rush past it and everybody's happy or, you know what? And I love that Omega was kind of like the link. And then later on in the episode, even Echo was like, Omega, you just got to let them do it. Right. It's no blood this time. So it went well.
00:03:55
Speaker
Yeah, which implies that there might have been a time where there was blood. I don't know. But no, I really enjoyed that. I really love. I said this once again every other episode, but Omega and crosshair being put together. It's just amazing. And now I'm loving dynamic.
00:04:14
Speaker
Yeah, like I feel like he's starting to be broken down more where he was joking with her when Omega was like little brother and he, you know, laugh or he made that joke with Echo being like, you know, oh, no hug for me. You don't want to do the voice. No, I can't do the voice. You go ahead. You're the bad batch impressionist, according to our comments. I didn't prepare for this. So it's probably going to be really bad. He's like, oh, no hug.
00:04:46
Speaker
That was great. That was perfect. Like my intro, there was a lot left to be desired, as you said. Yeah. So maybe we'll just stick to Omega and Wrecker. I'll do my Wrecker impersonation when we get to that part.
Visual and Animation Discussion
00:05:01
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I love I love Wrecker.
00:05:04
Speaker
But we returned to Pabu this episode and, you know, just made for such a beautiful vibe in this first half. This first half of the episode, I was like, damn, I feel like this series has really in terms of animation and visual style and just kind of everything. It's really surpassed the Clone Wars. And I mean, it makes sense because it's, you know, just going to continue to develop. The animation is just going to continue to get better. But
00:05:34
Speaker
the kind of idea when season one came out was that it's not ever going to surpass season seven in terms of visual style or the siege of mandalor arc specifically it's not really going to beat that but in my opinion i'm looking at these shots on pabu i'm like holy shit this place is gorgeous like i know it was really gorgeous last season but jesus christ this season with pabu
00:05:58
Speaker
I mean, it's funny, it's like the Clone Wars finally got its lighting right. Yeah. Yeah. Because because the the portion where they're all after Echo arrives and they're all sat around the table talking and like it's in that kind of dusk time frame. I was like, oh, look at all of Clone Force 99 looking very handsome and this gorgeous like sunset lighting. I was like, damn, even Echo his pale ass like the light was reflecting on his eyes and I was like,
00:06:27
Speaker
Oh, how pretty. I said to my best friend while we watch it, I was like, Echo needs to stay on Pabu for a bit to try to get some color. Because poor thing looks rough. But something I actually wanted to mention is and if you saw my short, I had some things to say about Omega's hair or if you listen to our episode about it. Yeah. And while I still don't love it, I will say that
00:06:54
Speaker
She in this new outfit that they gave her that green kind of like little vest knitted thing and shirt. She looks great. Like it's like the right color for her skin tone and her hair. I don't know. And maybe it's just Pablo. Maybe it's just everybody when you're on Pablo, you look amazing. And she just looks like a regular person. She doesn't look like she's dressed up for battle or like she's trying to, you know, dress up as an adventurer like in season two.
00:07:24
Speaker
Well, it really feels like she's able to come into her own more. I feel like the costume, it's a really great costume, but I feel like it also really fits Omega and who she is. Especially with her being the adult and the older sister in this episode. Right, right, right. Yeah, I always forget that. Her and Boba Fett, they're
00:07:44
Speaker
They're actually the oldest clones, but also the youngest. Wild, wild.
Character Development and Tensions
00:07:50
Speaker
But after we see how Crosshair is getting into the group and, you know, kind of seeing him avoid things and how things are going, Echo comes back. We start to get into the actual plot of this episode and kind of the conflict going on, which is that
00:08:03
Speaker
Omega has Nala Say's data pad, but it's just not working anymore. And so in order to get it to work, they need to go to an Imperial facility where they can go to an Imperial terminal to plug it in and retrieve the information, all empire bullshit that they have to do. And Crosshair is like, oh, well, I was the main character of an episode last season and I went to this planet called
00:08:34
Speaker
I didn't even know the name.
00:08:44
Speaker
is really interesting for Crosshair's redemption story at this point, because not only does he now have to confront his past with the Bad Batch, he now has to confront the start of this whole redemption journey, which was on Barts on 4, and you know, relive what went on with Mayday. We see the scene where he finds Mayday's helmet, the other clone's helmets, and puts them on display. Yeah, those really touching to watch made me a little like,
00:09:12
Speaker
Yeah, especially because we know like the bad batch remember season one episode one they hated the regs the clones and now the whole batch is kind of learning to be like These are our brothers no matter what and we're kind of in the same boat here, you know before it was like
00:09:28
Speaker
the clones felt like this batch were the only ones that were genetically modified and used for some type of war and had no other use, but all the other clones are also finding out that they really had no purpose either and that they were created for a war. And I feel like it's really bringing them all together. We see Omega really wanting to save all the clones from Mount Tantus. I'm just loving this like kind of clone community going on here in the bad batch. How about you?
00:09:56
Speaker
Yeah, I'm really enjoying it. And one thing that I noticed in this episode, I was like, oh, the batch is back together again. Yes. And we've kind of we don't have tech anymore. Yeah, we don't crosshair back. So it's like it was it was crazy thinking back to the first few episodes where the back batch was Hunter and wrecker. And that was. Yeah. And now we've kind of got everybody back together again. So that was really nice to see. And yeah.
00:10:25
Speaker
I don't know when when Crosshair was first describing the planet that they were going to go to, I was like, it's going to be Barton four. Right. I knew it was a little different. It looked a little different. I think it was our friend of the show, Ted, who pointed out that the lighting was a little different here. And maybe it's because the empire is no longer there. So maybe this planet is kind of maybe claiming itself.
00:10:52
Speaker
Yeah, reclaiming itself kind of thriving more. And, you know, maybe that's not how it like actually works canonically, but I feel like that's kind of a good visual thing, you know, going on like it's a brighter place now. It looks kind of, you know, habitable, maybe. I don't know. Probably not.
00:11:08
Speaker
No, I think that's really great and a really smart thing to point out because there's definitely visual cues that are added in for storytelling in any media. And I mean, usually we don't see it with snow. We see it like with greenery. So we'll see like, you know, nature reclaiming over like.
00:11:28
Speaker
housing or like metal or like whatever it is. Normally we'll see like grass and weeds and stuff growing. But in this situation, we had kind of snow burying the base almost. So I definitely feel like that that was on purpose. And I love that Ted pointed that out in the comments.
00:11:45
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, shut up, shut up. I'm sure they're going to watch this. Hopefully they click into this specific timestamp so they don't miss it.
Hunter and Crosshair's Confrontation
00:11:55
Speaker
Yes, yes, but right when they land on Barton 4, we kind of start to see Hunter and Crosshair actually acknowledge each other's existence for once. The boys are fighting. Yes, the boys are fighting.
00:12:10
Speaker
I was like, oh, immediately they get into this argument. And this whole dynamic is really interesting to me because from both of their point of views, neither of them are exactly wrong for the way they think or the way they feel. Hunter really has no reason to trust crosshair in this moment. You know, you know, we've seen it ourselves. Hunter just he doesn't he doesn't know, you know, and even though the rest of the batch is a little more accepting, he's the leader. So he's the one that's going to be the most cautious and kind of be like,
00:12:40
Speaker
Like he said, you thought that you were going to come in here and not give explanation. How are we supposed to know that you all of a sudden changed your mind? But then on the opposite side of that, it's like crosshair calling Hunter out and being like, well, let's be honest. The real reason you're upset here is because I helped Omega escape and you didn't. And also.
00:13:02
Speaker
You're kind of the reason that Omega was kidnapped. I don't want to say the reason because there's a little victim blaming me here. The empire is the reason that Omega was kidnapped. But, you know, if Hunter had not ignored Crosshair's call, like Crosshair said, could this have been avoided? I mean, that was that was a bombshell because I didn't even think about that, but he wasn't wrong. Yeah, like he was either of them.
00:13:29
Speaker
Well, I think that Hunter was overreacting a bit. I think that crosshair honestly wasn't acting much different than how he was before when they were together as a group. But like Hunter's very much on this like. Offensive like right. I don't know crosshair says one thing and hunters like you want to say that to my face like that that weird energy he's very and I think that's why
00:13:59
Speaker
crosshair hits him where it hurts and he's like, you're the reason Omega was brought on Tantis because you didn't trust me when I rushed everything to reach out to you. And yeah, I do agree with what you said. Like, yeah, is that completely true? Not necessarily, but like, at the end of the day, that's what happened.
00:14:22
Speaker
I mean, he's in the wrong in the sense that he is saying all this to avoid the real reason he's upset, which is obviously that he wasn't the one to save Omega. And it's kind of like he's kind of confused now because it's like crosshair is all of a sudden acting right in his mind. You know, like he just comes out of nowhere and is like, I, you know, I'm here. I saved Omega. I'm a good guy now. And that's what's going on here.
00:14:51
Speaker
And Hunter, he's kind of like, what the hell? You know, I think there's kind of that part of him where he's kind of like.
00:14:58
Speaker
Well, you didn't act that way before and it kind of fucked all of us over and all the pain that we went through because of you and because of that. But like he says in the end of the episode, he kind of has his own regrets to things that he shouldn't have done, things that he doesn't like that he did. And so the only thing you can kind of do is look forward to the future and be better. And you know me, redemption. So that was my shit, the whole dynamic between those two.
00:15:25
Speaker
I feel like that's I love that line, too, at the end, just because I feel like that's something that I say when speaking about issues. Yeah. And I have the line here, too. I have regrets to crosshair. All we can do is keep trying to be better. And who knows? There may just be hope for us yet. And there totally will be because they put aside their bullshit. Yeah. And like actually
00:15:54
Speaker
Communicated with each other and that's why I make the joke the boys are fighting because
00:16:00
Speaker
you know, men aren't the best at communicating and talking about how they feel. And that's what they needed to do. That's why Crosshair was saying those nasty comments because he knew being like, you're just mad. You didn't save Omega. And I did was just going to upset Hunter and piss him off because he knew Hunter was working so hard to try to save Omega and he couldn't find her.
00:16:23
Speaker
No, you're 100 percent right. It's that communication that helped them out here. And I really hope that there continues to be more conversation kind of in the camp here where, like I said, I really love this episode. But I do kind of wish that there was a little more. But I also don't think it's the end of their conversations. But I wish that there was more of a conversation for those two to have about their differences that wasn't interrupted by a giant ass monster coming in.
00:16:50
Speaker
And
Action and Character Conversations
00:16:51
Speaker
it was needed. The monster was needed, you know, because we know that it eventually gave Crosshair the opportunity to show that he will save Hunter. He will save everyone. He's a good person now, or at least trying to play a good person. Yeah, it's to back up what he's saying. Exactly. So it was needed. And there is kind of that show don't tell aspect. But at the same time, I like them having conversations. And, you know, Star Wars, we've talked about this on the podcast before. They're a little iffy.
00:17:20
Speaker
where, you know, just having actual conversations, you know, Andor and the Last Jedi kind of be in the outliers there where they will actually stop and talk and have a conversation that's not like the cheesiest thing you've ever heard. And we were kind of getting that in this episode when they were all sitting at the table. I'm like, damn, maybe that's why it looks so visually different to me because how many Clone Wars episodes do we get where it's not just a million moving pieces all at once. It's just people having a discussion.
00:17:50
Speaker
I want to see them sit and have conversations and I really hope that that wasn't the end of this like kind of feud here or the need to communicate. I really hope that Crosshair and Hunter continue to kind of have conversations about what happened. How do you feel?
00:18:08
Speaker
No, I love that you brought this up because I kind of was like, you know, we joked last episode being like, oh, this week's going to be a filler episode. And I am kind of bummed we didn't get a filler episode of them just sitting on Pablo and talking because I also was like, damn, which I know it's good. It's a good thing that they went to Barton for because like they were Hunter and record or Hunter and record.
00:18:38
Speaker
Hunter and crosshair were forced to work together against the worm. And if they didn't have that experience, that forcing them to work together is what made them open up and, you know, crosshair proof himself on what he was saying of being a good guy and Hunter, you know, being like, I need to stop being such a hard ass and, you know, just give him his space and his time to get back into the bad batch, essentially, and give him some grace.
00:19:05
Speaker
But I, yeah, I do kind of wish that they just sat on Pablo. We could have got an episode of them waiting for Echo to get there to have more conversations because they even they even touched on tech. Yes, meeting moment. It was just like a oh, and text not here to help us get into the data pad. Everybody makes a sad face. It kind of looks down and then like, I know where we can go.
00:19:31
Speaker
Yeah, I totally agree with you. Just a nice, you know, episode about kind of fixing what's going on, these conflicts within the bad batch. But I guess, like I said, there is kind of that argument you can make about show. Don't tell. But I don't know. No, I'm sure there's a balance that you can find. No, we want to hear. We want them. We want to see them tell each other. I don't want to see the boys fighting. I want to see the boys communicating.
00:19:57
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Well, they can argue all they want. I didn't have a problem with them arguing or anything. I just wish that there was more than the monster comes in, they attack him, crosshair saves Hunter, and then they just give each other a head nod. But to your point about a filler episode, like I said last week, I do feel like there's not going to be any filler here. I feel like this honestly might be the most filler
00:20:25
Speaker
type episode that we're going to get this season. Like there's a big monster and they're kind of filling that space with a big monster battle and such. It was basically the whole second half of the episode, but it also moved the plot along really well because I feel like the plot, at least right now until we start mixing Mount Tantus in with the Bad Batch, I feel like right now it is very focused on
00:20:49
Speaker
the bad batch and these kind of character arcs and character relationships and mending things. You know, I feel like it's in a repair era. I don't even know why I'm trying to use that word.
Echo's Update and Speculation on Crosshair
00:21:04
Speaker
Rehabilitation. Yes. We're fucking idiots on this part.
00:21:09
Speaker
Oh, no, speak for yourself. I knew what that word meant. But yeah, and they even dropped the hint by having Echo come in and be like, we've been trying to get shit on dentist this whole time, like. Right. And so it's like, oh, Rex and Echo are going to be working off doing their own thing while the bad batch is kind of rehabilitating their relationships. Look at you.
00:21:35
Speaker
But I but but I like that. And it gives us like this kind of first section of the season plot until we get to Ventress and then she takes over. Oh my fucking god. I hope it's on the way to bring it up. I hope she has a 30 second cameo in the last episode. And that's that's all you get. Everything we saw in the trailer is what we get of Ventress. And then I unalive myself.
00:22:03
Speaker
But one thing we did forget to mention is Crosshair's armor, they kept his armor in the back. Go ahead, say your little line. Oh, I didn't feel right, get rid of it.
00:22:17
Speaker
Yes, record is very sentimental. Didn't get rid of it. But record is he's the cutest in this episode. Yeah, record is so cute to crosshair. Then he does a little group hug at the end and he's like, oh, you guys like he's so cute. And he's like, if Omega trusts him, that's good enough for me. I'm like, yeah, yeah. That's my king right there. He said women's rights. And he knows what's up.
00:22:46
Speaker
But do you think that once Crosshair kind of starts to become more involved and become a regular part of the Babatch again that he might repaint his armor to kind of match what Wrecker and Hunter and Echo have done where they kind of personalized it?
00:23:04
Speaker
I think that'd be a that'd be a really great way of showing his growth. Yeah, like a showing instead of telling. And in a situation where that makes sense for it to have that visual cue, kind of like we talked about earlier with the snow planet and the lighting being different nature kind of taking it over.
00:23:24
Speaker
crosshair symbolically showing the growth he's made by updating his armor. I do think that could happen and I would actually really like that. I didn't think about it because I was kind of like, ew, not the season one look, the red and black. We're not going back to that. I love the teal and orange and like green and yellow. So
00:23:44
Speaker
Yeah, I think I think and I hope we will see that for crosshair. Mm hmm. But I think it won't happen until like the second half of the season. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of double. It'll be like double episode next week after like six and seven. Like at some point after they've gone on a couple of missions. Yeah. And I'm sure that record will be like, oh, I like the change in the armor. Like, mm hmm. Yes, yes. And he'll be like, thanks. Right.
00:24:14
Speaker
Oh, my God. I wonder what color he would paint it. I don't know. Hopefully not black. Hopefully something more colorful. He'll paint some gray on it. Great accents. That's your boy, though, so you'd be the one to know what color he would pick.
00:24:31
Speaker
I don't even know because like I really feel like even I mean maybe he'll become happier I really want to see him be happy but I feel like even now even though like he's still trying to be a good person I still feel like he Would dress like you black only
00:24:48
Speaker
Says the person wearing a black shirt right now. But it's a Clone Wars shirt. Oh, my God, I think it has Ventress on it. I should have waited for your fuck ass episode to come out. OK, well, my shirt says protect trans kids.
Episode Enjoyment and Dialogue Value
00:25:02
Speaker
So I went to one up me, whatever. It's in the Star Wars, the Clone Wars. OK, Ahsoka. Hello. Omega.
00:25:13
Speaker
She's from the bad batch, so get it right. But yeah, I think this episode was fantastic. Overall loved it. I know I said at the beginning of this episode, I'm like favorite episode. Now that we talked about a little bit, I may need to bump it down a little bit, but I still absolutely loved this episode and enjoyed it. Is there anything else you want to say about this episode before you read some comments from the folks? No, other than
00:25:43
Speaker
I really liked it. It was good. I do wish we got, like I said, I would have liked more talking time, which like probably me, like, I don't know, five years ago would be like, it wasn't right. Yeah. That's just where I am in my Star Wars. Now I'm like, I want to see these people sit and talk.
00:26:03
Speaker
Well, I think audiences as a whole want that nowadays. I mean, it's been a topic of conversation with like, I think Bob Iger even mentioned about how, you know, you look at the top movies nowadays, Oppenheimer, Dune. These are movies that are about people talking primarily and
00:26:21
Speaker
Five years ago. I feel like audiences would have considered them boring as fuck now They're the most popular things ever because people want that real human connection to these stories and I feel like we I feel like the Baba actually has the potential to kind of reach people on that level and I feel like they're doing a better job than most Star Wars, but I
00:26:42
Speaker
Yeah, there's there's there's still some room for improvement as always when it comes to Disney. And I mean, Ahsoka's got that great table in her ship. Her and Sabine should just kind of sit and chat a little bit longer on it. But the last thing I want to mention about this episode before we get into our audience comments is AZ.
00:27:06
Speaker
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's back. I remember a lot of people talking about that. Like, did they just leave him with Sid? And I thought they did. I feel like they probably saw people talking about that and they were like, oh, fuck, we need to include that. Because how did his ass get to Pabu?
00:27:22
Speaker
He flew over on his little nose. Um, I, I don't know who's probably like Omega like shortly after she left because she was with a Z. If we think back to season two when she was escaping. So he got out of SIDS parlor. Now how he got onto the marauder. I don't know. Poor easy.
Audience Engagement and Season Anticipation
00:27:44
Speaker
I was thinking about it. He's been replaced twice at this point. First by donkey and now by betcha.
00:27:51
Speaker
Yeah, but now they're all like friends. They're like just chill. That'll be our that'll be our filler episode. Omega goes on an adventure with Gonkey, Batcher and AZ to get melons from from Lower Pabu during a tsunami. Hey, why not? They used to market this. I remember season two. Parents, the Bad Batch releasing.
00:28:12
Speaker
Parents. The Bad Batch. Parents, make sure to check out this episode about war and turmoil and trauma. All right. So we've asked you guys on Twitter and Instagram and all the social medias that you should follow us on to tell us your thoughts on Bad Batch episode five, because we want to know. And we're going to be reading these comments every episode. So make sure to follow us on those places so you can be featured in our little
00:28:41
Speaker
audience interaction here. All right, first off from Darth Neo 66, what is your favorite season of the bad batch?
00:28:51
Speaker
I feel like I can't answer this yet. I can tell you it's definitely not season one. You're right. I was going to ask like, do you think it's a little unfair for me to say season three already? Like, is that even allowed? I mean, I've been having the most fun with, so far I've loved every single episode. There's not been one where I'm like, come on. Well, you know why?
00:29:16
Speaker
Why? You know why? Because you love crosshair. Oh, OK. Well, for me, I was going to say as much as I'm loving season three, I loved season two. But what characters did that focus on tech and echo? Who are my favorites? So I mean, in all honesty,
00:29:36
Speaker
whatever you like you like the grumpy one you just want him to be good and he has yet to get there my my guys are good boys from the beginning like they're so sweet yeah tech was a good guy in that episode with Omega when he was dismissing her feelings
00:29:56
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't think that is not fair. He couldn't help it. He wasn't dismissing them. He just his mind processes feelings and emotions differently. Mm hmm. Yeah. His words, not mine. Well, they had a moment where they sat and talked.
00:30:14
Speaker
Yeah, you got a point there. You got it. It was a beautiful moment. So I guess for now, I'll say season two, but Darth Neo six six. Get back to me after season three ends, because as I said earlier, Ventress is coming. So that might take the cake.
00:30:31
Speaker
Right. So this next one comes from ABS underscore reviews, and they said, I have to admit, as good as the episode was, I was a bit miffed that Crosshair reacting to Tech's absence was glanced over.
Handling Tech's Death and Emotional Moments
00:30:46
Speaker
Same with Echo meeting up with the batch. Here's to hoping we'll explore Fe's mindset a good amount in the next few episodes. Ooh, these are some great points. What do you think about Crosshair's reaction or lack of reaction to Tech's death, for one?
00:31:01
Speaker
And we kind of touched on it earlier. It just makes me wonder when he exactly found out this information. I think it's just something that they just skipped over altogether because it's probably something that Omega had to tell Crosshair and it was probably very traumatic. And how much do we want to see that poor little kid go through something like that, having to relive that moment over and over again. So I don't know. I feel like they're
00:31:28
Speaker
There might be room for something, but I don't know. I'm still wondering if they're going to bring tech back. I'm still leaning towards they're probably not, and I really don't want them to. But at the same time, if they are kind of avoiding these conversations about tech, is there a possibility? I don't really know. It's not what ABS was talking about here, though.
00:31:52
Speaker
Well, going back to their response, saying here's to hoping we'll explore fees mindset a good amount, too. Maybe they're saving the tech conversation for fee to be the one to bring into it because of their relationship that they built up in season two. I didn't even think about that until ABS underscore reviews reply. Right. Maybe they're waiting for fee to come around to have like a memorial or something on Pablo.
00:32:18
Speaker
And I'm sure she can regulate her emotions better than the men of Clone Force 99. Yeah. So she'll she'll be the one to sit down and explain it to us and hopefully give us that like tender moment. You know what I mean? Yeah. Not that the rest of the batch can't show emotions because of anything wrecker.
00:32:37
Speaker
He's an emotional himbo, sweet boy. But I don't think he's going to be if anything, he'd be like, I miss tech. But that'd probably be the extent of it. I hope we do get a good moment with fee. I think that'll be great for her as a character, too, because as far as we've seen, you know, she's just very like, let's go get these treasures. And I like.
00:33:01
Speaker
to do cool artsy things. So it'd be a good moment of development for her. I do, too. And, you know, with the comment about Echo meeting up with the batch, I liked that. And I don't think we necessarily needed more because I think Crosshair's comment about no hug for me was like the perfect, perfect way to bring Echo into it. And then just like, well, depends on the Intel.
00:33:28
Speaker
Right. Yeah, I was happy with it. I was happy with the overall. And I feel like there's still there's still more to come. Like you said, when Fi comes in, I feel like there has to be some sort of mention of tech.
Music and Emotional Impact
00:33:41
Speaker
It also reminds me the last two episodes we mentioned that trailer and the shots of Crosshair working with the Bad Batch and Fi at the beginning of the trailer.
00:33:50
Speaker
They were not flashbacks and you were trying to fucking gaslight me talking about. Well, what if, what if it's fee in the armor? I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
00:34:06
Speaker
It's going to be him. Guess they're going to the the place that looks like the place they went on in the Mandalorian. Yes. Well, I mean. Refinery, because that was what we saw in the trailer that we haven't seen yet. Come on to part six and seven.
00:34:23
Speaker
Right, right. I really think, like I said last week, that the mindset there was everyone was going to see crosshair there and be like, that's a red herring, because they're obviously not going to show crosshair in the trailer. And so everyone was like, oh, that's not a spoiler. Meanwhile, the whole time, it really was a spoiler, but you tricked yourself into thinking it wasn't. So I think that was kind of smart there. They got something going on at the marketing department. I was going to say, good job, Star Wars, Lucasfilm Marketing. Yes, yes.
00:34:51
Speaker
All right. This next one comes from now we are underscore ninety nine on Instagram. So sorry if I butchered that name. They say I cried like a baby at so much of music, the flying lessons and made a motifs. I mean, Scotty, you're the musician here. I know we both appreciate the kinder soundtrack, but I'm sure you appreciated it more than I did. Yeah, especially towards the end of this episode, which
00:35:18
Speaker
I'm I am the music person, but I'm not going to lie. I don't really pay as much attention or I shouldn't say much much attention. I don't really listen back to the music from animation because it's so much shorter of pieces usually unless it's like a main theme. So I didn't recognize what it was. It almost sounded a little bit like Sears theme.
00:35:38
Speaker
Not to bring up Debra Wilson again, but shout out to our interview. But I think that's probably what now is referring to with the made motifs. So whatever that music was at the end of the episode, that did really stand out to me. And it was very it was very pretty, very somber. And I really liked it. The music was great in this episode. And I mean, it's been great. The kinders have been killing it.
00:36:03
Speaker
Yeah. I love the music. They always kill it every time. And I also, one thing I noticed in this episode, they're really good at choosing. I mean, it might just be a team effort. Sure. They work with the director and such, but whoever is really good at choosing the moments to not include music. There was a moment where when Hunter and the whole batch was discussing and Omega was like,
00:36:27
Speaker
No, I have to go. I'd left the clones behind. I have to go back and save them. The moment when he's thinking about it, that the music cuts, like it just abruptly stops. And I felt like that was a really interesting choice because it was like the music was telling a story too. You know what I mean? Where it was like,
00:36:46
Speaker
I don't know. I'm not the best at like deciphering these things, but I'm like, was it possibly he was, you know, stopping his thought process of, oh, she's just a little kid. I have to trust her. Like, was it that like kind of the stopping of that? I don't know. But I feel like it was something. It was something. I mean, I don't know why you all gagging the kinders bring into you every episode. Exactly.
00:37:12
Speaker
But yeah, I feel like I don't know, I don't know where these episodes are going to go. That's one thing that's really cool is that they have me really wanting more and wanting to get to the next episode, but they don't have to like end on these really big cliffhangers, except for last week. And I have to end on those, you know, really big cliffhangers to make me care to come back. It's more that I care to see how these relationships develop, you know,
00:37:37
Speaker
I mean, I know you're tuning in for Ventress, but I'm over here for these relationships and the character arcs. No, I'm just kidding. Do you have any predictions for where these episodes could go? I kind of alluded to that already, but I imagine that we're going to get.
00:37:54
Speaker
And this is me doing the boring out of universe prediction of being like, well, in the trailer, they showed them like escaping some kind of refinery or something. So with fee. So that's probably we're going to see in this next two parter. But I think that kind of like we alluded to. Maybe the heart of those episodes will be getting a moment with fee.
00:38:18
Speaker
talking about Tech's death, especially imagine if, you know, she has a bad reaction to crosshair being like, you know, tech gave his life and you betrayed the batch and now you just expect them to come back like open arms. Imagine if it went in something like that.
00:38:37
Speaker
Yeah, that would be interesting. I really I really didn't think about that, that she might not be like.
Omega's Maturity and Wrecker's Comic Relief
00:38:43
Speaker
Accepting of that, but I don't know, I feel like she might also be a bridge at the same time, like kind of like you don't need to stop acting like men. OK, yeah, I mean, I mean, she was she was great with Hunter and Omega and being like.
00:38:59
Speaker
Let Omega, like, do things. She doesn't need to stay on the ship all the time. Like, let her learn. So it'd be interesting if they went that really deep route with Fi. And while I would like that, I'm sure they won't. Like, parents, the bad match. So, yeah, she'll probably just be the link. But, yeah, if we just get like a quiet moment with Fi, maybe even her having a moment with Crosshair might bring him around.
00:39:28
Speaker
So, yeah, she's really good at that kind of thing. So we love she excited. So hopefully we'll see her in the next episode. Yes. And then fee can be your standout character next week. But for this week's episodes, who is your favorite standout character?
00:39:46
Speaker
I'm gonna pick and you know the past few episodes I've just picked like some goofy bullshit in the background just because I've liked them but this episode I'm gonna have to pick Omega because she she was just
00:40:03
Speaker
I for lack of a better way of putting it stand out like she was she was almost the adult in the situation, the growth that she's made, the maturity, how she's grown like that really showed off in this episode. And when she stood her ground and was like, no, I'm going on the mission, Hunter.
00:40:20
Speaker
Even after he said no. And then the next thing we see her like in in the cockpit just sitting and I just started cackling when I saw that. So it's like, oh, she wasn't taking no for an answer. She girl bossed her way into the mission as she should. So Omega was really, really a standout for me. I mean, she's been a standout all season, but I feel like this episode really showed how much growth she's made since season one. But what about you?
00:40:47
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Um, for me, I feel like it'd be cheating to pick crosshair. I picked him in the first episode, but obviously that's my standout character, but honestly have to go with wrecker. He had some of the best moments. Like we already talked about those moments where I'm like.
00:41:01
Speaker
Oh, you know, like keeping the armor and bringing them in for a hug. And, you know, just oh, my God, I was laughing when he had to dig, like dig through the snow to get through the door because they have battery before. I'm like, oh, what are they saying? He's a fucking dog. Or maybe they say he has that dog in him. Literally.
00:41:23
Speaker
In that moment too, where he was like, why is it always going to be a big creature, a monster? I'm like, honestly. I told you about that last week because I saw it in one of the trailers of him saying that. I know. And how real was that for us as the audience? Because like, that's always the case. Why? I think that's a great choice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My stand out actually was the worm.
00:41:48
Speaker
Oh my god. How many of the worm from SpongeBob? The one with the tunnel. Oh yeah. Even that, it kind of reminded me of the Krait Dragon too. Right, right. The way it just kind of like glided through the terrain and whatnot and like broke up the surface. Yeah. Well, that one might just be because they're creatively bankrupt, but. Shout out for the worm.
00:42:10
Speaker
Great job, you're doing amazing, sweetie. Yes, yes. Well, at risk of making this podcast discussion twice as long as the actual episode.
Conclusion and Social Media Farewell
00:42:21
Speaker
Why don't you send us out of here? Yes. Make sure to follow us on social media at WaySeeker's pod so you never miss out on an episode and especially all of our Bad Batch coverage. Thank you all so much for listening, as always, and may the force be with you.
00:42:39
Speaker
Bye. I just started saying always. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, Deborah.