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Season 2 Finale. Season 2, Episode 52.
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Wrapping up season 2! We look back at the last year and discuss some stand out moments.
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Season Two Finale Introduction
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Welcome back to the show. Season two, episode 52, which means that this is a season two season finale. Wow. Where are the party favors? I think we forgot about the shop. Before we get into everything, I want to thank one of the sponsors of today's episode. That's Haefla.
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Season Reflection and Notable Episodes Discussion
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So we're happy to have Hayfla on the show. So I guess our thoughts for this week, we're kind of to just go back and maybe look at
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at what the episodes were this season. And, you know, anything that we wanted to reflect on, you know, there's 52 episodes. So we can't talk about every single one of them, obviously. But so I have the see, I'll pull this over here. What was it? Dave told me that there was
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Maybe that's what it was. There's a trick for, uh, zooming in, but let's see, where's the, no side scroll. Yeah. What's, what's going on there? That's, that's annoying. Yeah, that's not too bad. Yeah. I couldn't even read that. So I jumped all the way back up to the top.
Exploration of Early American Furniture
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Oh no, sorry. That's season one.
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So yeah, season two opened up with early American. We talked about Nicholas Disbro tools and the trestle table that was.
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That was our first batch of episodes. The trestle table, which featured in armed combat. The trestle table. It could save your life. Season two, episode four. There was always something really curious in those things. You know, you'd think it would be just.
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kind of like straight ahead, not too interesting. But there was always a little tidbit of information. Like, you know, the reason they had a trestle table, they would sit with their back to the wall. Yeah. So they could put it up in front of them and
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used as a big shield. Yeah. From swords and arrows, I guess. Yeah. Maybe a, a, what do they call those little crossbows back then? Oh, I don't know. It was a name for it. Oh, the, the handheld ones or. Yeah. It was kind of just like a rudimentary kind of crossbow thing. No, I don't know. I forget, but yeah. I mean, the whole Nicholas Disbro thing. That was a, I mean, I forget about that all the time. That was a, a bombshell for me.
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to find out, you know, relate to this guy who
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relatively famous when it comes to furniture. Um, yeah. Not just famous, but like sort of a foundational character in American furniture. Um, you know, it had quite a historical life really. Yeah. So I guess if father's a Hartford,
Genealogical Discoveries in Furniture History
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right? Yeah. If you don't remember, um, episode two of season of this season, um, in, in our research found out that
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My ninth great grandfather was this guy, Nicholas Disbro, who was part of the Puritan Great Migration, came to like, came to Massachusetts first and then was one of a hundred people who founded Hartford, Connecticut. And he's sort of famous for the Hartford chest, which for
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for some time, I don't think it's still considered, but it was like the earliest verifiable piece of American furniture. So yeah, pretty interesting. Right. I mean, and it was signed and, you know, I could trace it back to being built here. Yep. Yeah. I mean, it's very cool. I can still remember sitting in the shop when, you know, like this bro, this way, that sounds for me.
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Yeah. Well, no, I mean,
Chippendale's Influence on Furniture Design
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yeah. I mean, immediately I'm like, that's my Nana's last name. Like that's her maiden name is bro. So that's wild. Yeah.
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So what else? I think it gets more impactful probably as we go on fresh air. So we move into colonial and that's where we really get into Chippendale. So we got colonial furniture, who, what, when, where, why, Tom's Chippendale. Then we talked about mahogany and does colonial furniture matter? We hear the door squeaking. Hey bud, stop playing with the door.
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Picked up my son from preschool. He's watching Sonic, the hedgehog upstairs. Four going on 64. Yeah, but he's actually kind of just like hanging out at the top of the basement steps, playing with the door. He's so cool.
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Um, so yeah, I mean, Chippendale, he was kind of a shocker. Everybody, I mean, everybody knows the name, as did we, but didn't really know, you know, how, um, important of a figure he was. Just thought he was sort of this prolific furniture maker, not so, um,
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impactful. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, stylistically, it's not something that we really get into, but we really grew to admire not only his work, but his influence. It was just immense. Yeah. So if you guys, you know, like us are just sort of familiar with the name Chippendale as like a style of furniture,
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Do yourselves a favor and I tell you in 20, 30 minutes on a couple of Google searches, you could pull up a wealth of information or reach out to us. We could happily send you some notes from our podcast.
Encouraging Listener Engagement with Content
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Um, one thing that's, uh, I miss is that we get to look at all the pictures and you know, the, the podcast, these, the listeners don't get to really watch along as if we're doing like a TV show. Yeah. That would be cool. Well, you're all going to have to write into like a history channel. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, tell him you got these guys who would make a really good TV show. Yeah. The history of furniture. Yeah.
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Why not? Why not us? Yes, buddy. We're going to be done in about an hour. No. I mean, you can come sit down here, but you can't talk. All right. So we're going to have our first guest. Yeah. Of season two.
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Hunter Krug. So, yeah, so then from Chippendale, we got into Mahogany, which was pretty interesting, learn about like the triangle trade route and how, you know, what was it? They would they would go and get the sugar cane and the. Yeah, they didn't want to go deadheading back. Yeah, there's a dead cricket. Yeah. So you want to sit on the bench?
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If you want to talk though, you got to go upstairs and watch Sonic. Yeah. Yeah. They wanted to fill the ships with something, if I remember. Yeah. Well, I forget. I mean, it was slaves.
00:10:04
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Uh, was it? I thought it was like, it went from like, you know, South America to North America over to Europe. Yeah. Uh, the one thing that does stick in my mind was how fast the mahogany was depleted. Yeah. Like by the 1790s or something like that.
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I think they were picking up the mahogany in South America and then coming up here and they were loading up with sugar cane and dropping off the mahogany. Maybe not all the mahogany, but dropping off some of it and then going to England or wherever in Europe.
00:10:40
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But some of you guys probably remember better than we do. It's all blah. Yeah. We need a refresher course. I mean, that was November 5th. So it's nearly a year ago. You know, it reminds me of being in school where, you know, you're taking your final exam and yet like going back through your notes, like this is your, you know, the first couple of weeks of school. It's like, Oh man, I forgot all about that.
00:11:04
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for the final exam. Yeah. So get this episode one of season two published September 23rd, 2021. Holy cow. Yeah. Today's 22nd. So yeah, over a year. So really we're a week, a week offset. No. Yeah. How'd we do that? Might've been one of our, um, on the road affairs. Well, yeah. And we did, um, we did have a couple of weeks hiatus. I thought,
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Yeah. Did we? Yeah. There were a couple of weeks throughout the year, I think, where we missed. So then we got an on the road episode where I'm sure we can't remember anything from that. Let me see if there's anything in the description. Take a break from season two, blah, blah, blah to Hoboken. Yeah, I don't remember what that is. This is great because here's the description of almost a year ago. Things are crazy at the shop right now.
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to sit down and shoot the format, the formal podcast. Oh, yeah. So that's when we were working on the wine library. We were trying to get that done because that's November 19th. We're trying to get that done for Thanksgiving. That was the big Thanksgiving push of 2021. And I saw Jacqueline just posted another photo of that. They did a photo shoot yesterday over there. So. That's for wrapping up court. You got to be quiet.
00:12:31
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Um, so then after that we had the Pennsylvania Dutch. Yeah. Um, the, who are really Germans. Right. Deutsch, Pennsylvania Deutsch. Yeah. Um, had the Zooks and the, uh,
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I can't remember any of the proper names, but yeah, there were a couple of main families that are like still family names operating today, right? Yeah. Let me see if I don't have any names in the description. Yeah. We talked about the hex, not hex key. Those hex signs. Yeah. You know, they had painted furniture was sort of really their thing.
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Yeah. The flowers, the birds. It's your first podcast. So after Pennsylvania Dutch, uh, we moved into, why is my scroll wheel not working anymore? Federal furniture. Federal.
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Yeah, that was, that was probably like one of the first where we're getting into, you know, furniture we recognize. Yeah. So I see here federal furniture, the big three and Fife, which were the Fife chair and Sheridan.
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Okay, you can stay upstairs if you want. Hepplewhite, Sheridan, and Fife. The big three and Fife. Hepplewhite, Sheridan, and Fife. Well, who's the other one? Is it Chippendale? Must have been Chippendale, because Chippendale and Sheridan were kind of together, I remember. Which is funny, because so I listened to Working Hands podcast today with Bliss was on there, Robert Bliss. Yeah, he's a big period guy. Yeah, and he was saying like,
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Yeah, he's a huge shaker guy. And he was he I don't think he's listened to those episodes of this podcast. He wouldn't talk to us anymore. No. But he was saying, like, you know. Duncan Fife stuff like there's it. What am I trying to say here? There's not a lot of it left because it was mostly form over function.
00:14:58
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So not a lot of it survived because they didn't really put a lot into the construction and Duncan Fife was just a furniture designer. He wasn't actually. Yeah. He was a New Yorker if I remember right. And actually Jim Jamal, did you see he was working on a Duncan Fife sofa, which was a really cool federal style sofa.
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Mm hmm. Yeah, that's I mean, that's when furniture production started moving away. Yeah. From like the New England areas. And I guess, you know, out in Pennsylvania, those were the sort of the hubs of it. Yeah. Yeah. Like Rhode Island, Connecticut. It was really. Hey, bud, you can't be playing the game. They're going to hear it on the podcast.
00:15:44
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You got to turn all the way off of the sound. You need some help? We have an intermission. Yeah. There he goes. You got to turn all the way down because that's probably going to drive some people crazy. He knows more about that stuff than I do. I just get this message. Hey Jeff, have you ever replicated a restoration hardware vanity?
00:16:15
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Yeah. Okay. So, okay. After federal, we get into American empire. We're talking about the Clismos chair, which is everywhere. Yeah. Those flared legs. And you know, the design is like 2000 years old or something. Yeah. Right. From Greeks, right? Yeah. And I remember we had just done that episode and I was in the eye doctors.
00:16:43
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like Tex and Jeff. They got klizmos chairs in the waiting room. Yeah. Now, now we see it everywhere. At least see the, the, how the design inspiration is carried through.
00:17:00
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Yeah, that's one of the things that sort of has stayed with me through all this. I forget a lot of the details of each episode, but there are a couple of overarching ideas that have hung on. And that is how some designs have really just sort of, even if they're really watered down, they've lasted forever.
00:17:30
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So then we get a season two episode 20. There you go. What does Napoleon have to do with furniture? I don't know what the connection was. I remember looking at
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at like his throne and stuff like that. But I don't remember what we were sort of. I remember it was, you know, his, his main guys, it was like the architect and the, and the designer. And of course, you know, he was big on restructuring Paris and they, and building the palaces. Wasn't it Versailles? So he was furnishing everything.
00:18:09
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And turns out that his designers were very influential. Yeah, didn't he have like some part of the government that was like had to do with architecture and maybe I'm misremembering. I don't know. I don't remember at all.
00:18:31
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Technology and finance. I remember talking about that, you know, talking about how now there are these sort of mercantile type people with all this money. Mercantile. Is that the right?
00:18:45
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I don't know. I don't remember if that's even the right word I'm looking for, but yeah, these people who had money and they were, you know, starting factories and right money became available like as being lent out, right? Yeah. So you could get an investor and whereas back then it was sort of just like, you know,
00:19:05
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The the aristocracy just owned everything whereas now like this guy will give you some money And own a part of your thing, you know, right, right I remember being paid in wood. Yeah
00:19:21
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which is, yeah, going back to the whole mahogany thing. We're going to, you know, so build us this dresser. We're going to give you, going to pay you on a thousand board fee and my dress is going to take two 50. Right. And that, and the seven 50 left over is your payment. Yep.
00:19:39
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So, yeah, that right there is where you see the, excuse me, the sort of a shift towards, you know, or a foreshadowing of the Industrial Revolution is starting around that time. It starts separating the labor. Yeah, the division of labor. And we get into that more, I think. So we have Shakers and then
00:20:05
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Yeah, I don't know. Maybe that might have been where we started to talk about it. Well, yeah, that's when factories start becoming a thing, a possibility. So you have people who are not necessarily the craftsmen with a furniture company, and then they start employing people.
00:20:32
Speaker
Go upstairs. Distracting us. He's giving you the... Go watch Sonic. We'll be done in a little bit. Six miles. Don't worry. Go eat some snacks. The jolly's apparent.
00:20:54
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Um, we're multi. He's actually a good sport. I mean, we've had him in the shop for hours. Oh yeah. He's good. Let his be thrown a tantrum. Oh yeah. Yeah. He's he's a good, good sport. So following the empire period, we, we have our four episode saga on the shakers. Oh man. Um, where are we kind of maybe intentionally
00:21:26
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picked apart, you know, some of the, um, more shaker myth. Yeah. I mean, I don't want to go as far as calling it a myth, but, uh, I don't know. Well, we went into it blindly and
00:21:41
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thinking we'd come out even more strongly behind the Shakers, that we could be Shaker fans, we could identify with their style and their work ethic and all these things, which we do. But there were so many holes in their story that we kept coming across that by the end of it, we were sort of like,
00:22:06
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hmm yeah what about these shakers what about these shakers and yeah in in going back to working hands that i listened to today you know bliss is talking about the shakers he's saying you know they invented all these things the washing machine this and keith having had listened to our podcast he goes but did they really don't they just kind of claim to
00:22:29
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And Bliss said, no, they did. They really did. I don't remember which exact inventions. The circular saw, the sawmill. I mean, they were picky choosy about what was, you know, admissible or formidable, I should say, in their lifestyle. They, you know, bent the rules to what they needed. And not that everyone doesn't do that, but they're
00:22:58
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I think our point in the whole thing was kind of just like, they're not this holier than thou section of furniture makers. They're pretty much just like everybody else. They were there at the right place, right time, which is the title of season two, episode 23. Yeah, that's perfect. Perfect title. Yeah, they were. Yeah.
00:23:21
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Technology and finance must have been the Industrial Revolution because that was sort of the point that we were driving home in episode 23, right place, right time was that they were just there doing what everyone else had done before at a time where people weren't doing that anymore, right? So it's not like they invented it. They were just
00:23:42
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And it's mostly, I think, because of their lifestyle. They were just doing it the way that furniture makers had been doing it before for whatever thousand years. Right. Because even though the factory made furniture, created, you know, sort of knockoff pieces that were available for the first time to regular folk.
00:24:03
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There was always a kind of pushback to, you know, in in the trades and even amongst, you know, clientele that factory made stuff was, you know, getting off the track from what furniture should be. What was the guy in New York who had like the first little billboards? Yeah, I wish I could remember his name. I want to say more for some reason, but I know it's not it.
00:24:33
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Yeah. Cause I saw something recently, um, like one of his couches for sale. That's right. We were looking things up. Um, and, uh, I remember they were like in the twenties, like 23rd street, 26th street. Yeah. Let's see. I'm looking. This used to work on 26th street.
00:25:02
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First Furniture Factory. Let's see what you got. Let's see. Hmm. AC Norquist. That's 1881. Yeah, it wasn't Norquist.
00:25:27
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It was more of a regular kind of... Lanier, I remember that name. Yeah, yeah, the Frenchman. Duncan Fleiff and Lanier.
00:25:40
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A commode, a design for a commode and a console. Anyway, it won't bore you with trying to remember this guy's name. I'm sure one of you remember it. You can let us know. But he created the first sort of like catalog where it had like, you know, sofa number six with a price. $75. Yeah. Yeah. Probably more like $8 or something back then. Who knows?
00:26:04
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Um, so let's see after the shakers we get into victorian The victorians were a weird bunch. Yeah, remember those uh greeting cards don't show those ankles. Oh, yeah Gonna get some modesty boards up in there Yeah, they didn't show ankles but they had that weird fascination with death and yeah weird taxidermy dead frogs or something on like a greeting card um had
00:26:33
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My grandmother, my Nana, actually Disbro, she had all these old cards that were they weren't hers because she was born in like whatever the 20s. But they were her families before like from the early 1900s and stuff. And yes, so weird. Weird like fruit anthropomorphized fruits and vegetables. That was one of them too.
00:26:57
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I remember that, like the carrot with the face on it. There was like a turn up with like the weird like spindly legs made out of the roots. Yeah, totally bizarre. The Victorians. With the powdered wigs, cause they all had syphilis. Actually, no, that was, that predates the Victorians. They stunk. Yeah. Oh yeah. God, imagine the smell. And then arts and crafts.
00:27:24
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, everybody that's, you know, doing stuff like us is at least touched a little bit by arts and crafts. Yeah, we kind of found out that William Morris was a little bit of a faker.
00:27:40
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It blew up a bunch of our dreams. And, you know, I'm sure there's information to contradict any of these things that we've found. But yeah, I mean, his first furniture was was like super ornate Victorian. The first Morris chair is not arts and crafts. No.
00:28:01
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It's some completely Victorian. Yeah. And he was another early adopter of the, you know, the, the, he rode the wave in. Yup.
00:28:15
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Uh, makes me think of, uh, Joe Strummer of one of my favorite bands, The Clash. You know, one of the, one of the original punks, if you will. But, uh, he wasn't in a punk band when the Sex Pistols were sort of like taking London by storm. And then he goes, hmm, this punk thing, gotta get on this.
00:28:40
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Oh, I didn't destroy any other miss with that one. What? But yeah, I mean the clash, one of my favorite all time bands, but yeah, Joe strum are not originally a punk.
00:28:58
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I think, I don't think you could fake me in a punk. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think, you know, he, he adopted it and took it to heart after that. But I, his first reasoning for get, you know, starting to clash was more, uh, because of the, you know, the fashion of the day, so to speak.
00:29:22
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So yeah, seeing this next episode reminds me, this one I had COVID, a message to Garcia, May 13th. I was trying to remember when it was. That was a long week, wasn't it? Yeah. Oh man.
00:29:40
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Oh, God. So that was just in the arts and crafts. We talked about the Roy Crofters. Or was it Roy Crofters? No, Roy Crofters. Roy Crofters up in New York. And they were sort of very early on, like early, late 1800s, I think 1895, maybe. Mr. Garcia was written and they were printers and they printed this, you know, famous sort of anecdote that went like
00:30:06
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like, you know, uh, 19 early late 1800s viral, like all over the world. And so that was just a reading of that, which is like, it's super short by like a 20 minutes or something. Not even 14 minutes. I was shocked because I bought, I bought the book.
00:30:24
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and read it and I was like, man, this is like way shorter than I would have expected. I thought it was like a legitimate book. I thought it was about this Garcia guy, but it was just an analogy kind of. Right, almost like a parable or something, right? Yeah, yeah. And like half of it was a forward. So what is the message to Garcia's message?
00:30:51
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uh basically he was saying like uh there's something about adversity well like about going above and beyond kind of um that was like the whole thing like don't don't just be uh you know a lazy bum like basically he was saying it's kind of like the whole thing that's going on now where everybody talks about nobody wants to work and blah blah blah it's it's kind of like that
00:31:22
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the more things change, the more they stay the same. Yeah. Right. Um, yeah, that was a great week. Uh, you, poor Jeff was home sick.
00:31:32
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We were on an installation. We had gotten the easy part of the installation done. And then Rob was left with the rest of the hard part. It wasn't so bad, but to get in the house, you had to walk around the back of the house down this like dirt hill. So like you had to park the van up at the top of the hill and wheel all the tools.
00:32:01
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And everything up and down So we each had our own crosses to bear at that at that stage, yeah Would you would you say that that job site was dusty? Oh my gosh You know what else is dusty sanding? Yeah sanding is dusty. We all know it We all hate it
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Dot-com slash extract for today. You're gonna go be going there today. You're probably just getting back now and We got into after a message from guard message to Garcia Which is about this guy who had to bring this message to Garcia and Cuba blah blah blah If you've got 15 minutes, you can read yourself Art Nouveau and the Nancy boys Nancy is actually a place right
00:35:02
Speaker
Was it a school or was it just a town? I think it was both. I think it was both. Let's see. No, I, I put very bad descriptions on these because usually I'm just like, I just got to get this up. So it was in France if I remember right, Nancy? Yeah, I think so. Art Nouveau was heavily, um, French based. Um,
00:35:29
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I remember, you know, Austria to the secession building. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Klimt, which actually just about a week ago, a thing opened up in New York City at the Hall de Lumiere. It's actually the first exhibit. Yeah. I've seen the commercials a couple of times. Yeah. Yeah. I've heard on the radio, which I will go, but
00:35:54
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It's one of those things you have like a 90 minute or 60 minute time slot. Like you buy a ticket and it's like, all right, you're up at four PM to five 30. Yeah. I'm not schlepping my way out to New York for an hour and a half. Yeah. It's the whole, you know, world has changed so much. It's things just aren't free and easy like they used to be. Yeah. I mean, I'll pay, but I don't want to.
00:36:22
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It's gonna cost more to get out there than it is to actually go to this thing. And it's a tiring journey. I mean, it's way uptown. Plus I got things to do. When it comes on TV, I'm gonna record it.
00:36:39
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That's, that's the stage of life on me. Even if a movie comes out, you know, unless it's like a real, Oh, I gotta go see it. I'm like, I'm going to wait for that to come out. Oh yeah. I'd much rather watch it at home. Sit in my own chair, eat my own snacks. Yeah. I think we've talked about it. I went to see a movie with my wife. Uh, it must be, it's probably going back five, six weeks now, but
00:37:06
Speaker
I mean it's cool every now and then like we might go see a movie once a year or maybe not even but yeah for the most part and it wasn't even like oh man we got to go see this movie it was just like hey let's go see a movie yeah get out yeah but for the most part yeah no I'm there's nothing I want to see that bad
00:37:24
Speaker
No, it's also for me. It's got to be like one of those Like a Star Wars kind of movie where you can you know, really appreciate the big sound And my wife hates all that she wasn't when it's really loud and yeah, well then if it's quiet movie watching home Exactly. I don't want to go see the notebook in the movie. Oh God I don't want to see the notebook at all
00:37:51
Speaker
Yeah, I mean we saw nope which is like an alien movie and it was yeah, there's like some you know It's loud and you know seeing a big flying saucer. That's like 40 feet wide on it. Yeah, I like that stuff
00:38:05
Speaker
We had a weird sort of, uh, two episode on traditional revival, which is kind of just like nothing new. It was just exactly that. Just a rehashing of things that we had already talked about. And that's kind of how fashion is, isn't it? You know, every now and again, they just start recycling something that's already happened, whether that's furniture, you know,
00:38:32
Speaker
clothing, fashions, music, just, and so didn't give us much meat on the bone on those two episodes. Yeah. Then we had two on the road where was, let's see what, sorry about the sound quality. So that must've been, that must've been like one of the mics, the, the one mic episode. Yeah, I guess.
00:39:01
Speaker
I was trying to think of what the first, did we do one in the first season? We, yeah, we must've. Yeah, I think we did. Let's see. Cause we did one going up to our bowl. I remember that. Was that season one? Must've been. Yeah. It's all blar, isn't it? Hmm. Maybe not.
00:39:29
Speaker
Are we going to do a Halloween episode this year? Were we candy? It's just an excuse to buy me candy. Yeah. Luckily we don't have any stupid partners who pick some stupid candy again. Oh, those were some of the worst candies ever. Yeah.
00:39:49
Speaker
I wonder if this was like going up to Arbo, July. July. Doesn't seem like I don't remember doing mid-century modern like right after that. No. July, July. What were we working on in July? Um, I don't think Arbo was in 2022. No, no. Yeah. Yeah. No. So that was, wait a minute. That was season one.
00:40:21
Speaker
Season two, episode nine, November, that's not it. Maybe it was not called on, oh, on the road again, right there. June 23rd. Season one. Yeah. I guess that must've been it.
00:40:45
Speaker
on the road again. Did we have a on the road? I don't know. Maybe we just, uh, stall the, you know, the Willie Nelson song title on the road again. Okay. You can see all the guests we had. Yeah.
00:41:01
Speaker
Episode 8 while Willy, we still have to redo an episode with Will because that episode just got totally botched by the audio. Yeah, I think we ran over a cable or something like that. Yeah, that's why we got rid of the XLR cable and stuff while Willy's back on Instagram.
00:41:20
Speaker
Ah, John Peters. Yeah. Tim Beardsley, Keith from Two Bit Woodworks, Manny. That was the marathon episode. Feed the Hunger. Let's see what the runtime was on that. Two hours, 43 minutes. Then we did a Patreon afterwards. That was our first Patreon episode. That was a four hour extravaganza. Yeah.
00:41:48
Speaker
And we probably could have kept going for another two hours. Oh yeah. Absolutely. Oh my God. Oh, uh, green street, three year first reason, five days. What are we going to do for our anniversary? That's a great question. We ought to at least go out for dinner with the wives. Yeah. Oof. We're going to get paid. We get paid for that.
00:42:17
Speaker
Level of magic. So, yes, we did a couple on the road episodes. Then we we got into mid-century modern, which was a good one. I don't know. I saw a post from a guy on Instagram. I really like a mountaintop jointer shop. And he was sort of loathing the whole mid-century.
00:42:39
Speaker
I'm loving the, I guess, sort of the bastardization of it by modern industry. IKEA. They saw like, wow, this could be easily the rectilinear forms and everything could just be easily flat packed and made cheaply. And yeah, I get that. He was in Germany and there was an Eames chair on display.
00:43:05
Speaker
He did say I'm in the minority on this subject for Toya. He had some really cool stuff, heims, which was actually Ray and Charles. And Ray was the wife, right? Yeah. Yeah. She doesn't really get much credit. She gets zero credit most of the time. Um, what, uh,
00:43:29
Speaker
to backtrack a little bit, what period was, now the name escapes me, the auto designer with a B. Bugatti. Yeah, what? Art Nouveau. It was Art Nouveau. Yeah, Art Nouveau was really cool. There was some wild stuff like with the lily pad kind of things. The whiplash kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, that's what they called it. Yeah.
00:43:53
Speaker
Oh yeah. Um, it's a shame again to reiterate that everybody couldn't see some of the things we did our best to describe them. Um, if you have any curiosity at all, uh, it's a, it's worth checking out. We've got one here that just is like season two episode 46 with no descriptor.
00:44:19
Speaker
Listen into a live Q and a. Oh, okay. I remember that. That's, that's ringing a bell. That wasn't that long ago, August 12th. That's when we did the live, uh, Instagram live. Yeah. Yeah. Where you found out that, uh, uh, Oh my God. That role has been co-opted. Oh yeah. See everybody's dreams are squashed. Yeah.
00:44:46
Speaker
Then we had another new shop, Houdis. I think we just talked shop. Wait, what? Listen to a live Q&A we had on Instagram. Green Street does Google. Why do I have the description on these as the same? Does it bring it forward if you don't update it? I probably just copy and paste it. Let's see.
00:45:17
Speaker
So you can listen in.
00:45:34
Speaker
Okay, yes, just talking about the new shop and we had a couple questions from Corey. I think had a couple. Keith wanted us to go on a tangent. So that's what we did on the next episode when we did Google reviews. Oh man.
00:45:53
Speaker
I wish we could remember the name. I guess we could look it back up of the very best Google reviewer that we had. What was her name? I'm about to find out.
00:46:27
Speaker
This is her. It's like Yolio or some kind of weird name. Oh man.
00:47:02
Speaker
Who cares about the size of the microwave in your hotel my god the wattage yeah, it's a low watt microwave
00:47:34
Speaker
Cory said he knows he knows where this hotel is. I want to hear one of the Hooters.
00:47:57
Speaker
I'm talking poorly of being Spanish. This is chillers. A no go if you're in the area, which I unfortunately was. Oh, I love it when it's done. Yeah, they all see them with clothes. Perfectly reasonable. Cyborg 12.
00:48:36
Speaker
I mean, I don't know. The Google reviews are very fun. I could listen to that again. That whole thing is just too funny. Oh my God. Then yeah, we're basically back at present day. We got three on the road.
00:48:53
Speaker
podcasts, September 2nd, September 9th, September 16th, tomorrow's the 23rd. Oh wait. So this will release on the 23rd one year to the day of season one, season two, episode one.
00:49:09
Speaker
Yeah, the best part of that is the descriptor. Things are crazy in the shop, right? Yeah. And one year later, things are still crazy. Oh my God. We still barely have time to put out the podcast. Wait, so that was episode one that was crazy? Oh, go back to it. No, no, that was early American. That was the first On the Road podcast. Okay. Yeah, there it is.
00:49:41
Speaker
Yeah. Wow. So one year later, we, uh, we still haven't talked about what we're going to do for season three. Yeah. And we, we don't even have, uh, an intermission or, uh, anything because we got, uh, our buddies over at three M extract cubitron to net disc seven 10 W have signed on for
00:50:04
Speaker
10 episodes. Yeah. So wait, is it 10? No, I don't think it's that many. Anyway, if you haven't done so, go now dot 3m.com slash extract XTR a CT for today. Yeah.
00:50:20
Speaker
You know, you can actually bring up another window if you're listening on your computer and do it at the same time. Like you could listen to the podcast. That's true. You can bring up a new window. Let's see. It's a, when I tried it today, wasn't working through go.3m.com slash extract for
00:50:46
Speaker
Nope. Not working. Uh-oh. They gave us a bad link. Yeah. Well, that's their problem. Go.3m.com. Slash extract for today. Wonder why it's not working. That's a good question. Um, yeah, I forget how many episodes three I'm signed on for. Might be five, might be 10. I don't remember.
00:51:12
Speaker
Um, which is cool. We appreciate it. We're just, we're just poking fun at you a little bit. Yeah. I don't think we're going to listen to this part of the podcast anyway. No, we're going to listen to the, to the, the ad and that's it. We're like, um, Dave Letterman when he used to make fun, NBC. Well, I thought that was crying upstairs. No, just entertaining. He's doing the voice. Um,
00:51:41
Speaker
So yeah, we're working on the boxes right now. We got, let's see, we got probably, I don't know how many cherry we ended up with, let's say 520, 530. Then we got right now about 300.
00:52:02
Speaker
25 walnut ones cut. Got another 160. No, so it must be more than 325. Cause we definitely had a, like a full 540 pieces of walnut. Yeah. And there's a 168 left. So it's 380.
00:52:31
Speaker
Something like that? 370? Yeah. We'll just call it 350. We got 350 of the walnut cut, dry assembled. We want to finish cutting all those so that, you know, it's only going to take Rob like two days, three days to put them all together. So probably three days. Um, so yeah, we're trying to get those done. We got maker camp coming up in now two weeks. That's unbelievable. Yeah. It really came up fast. You got to get on your, um, my project. Yeah. I don't even know what to do.
00:52:59
Speaker
Yeah. You just got to wing it. Got to make a charcuterie board. Yeah. Just give away this bench. No way. That's the problem. The size. Yeah. You know, I'm, I'm stumped because of the size of it. Everything we make is, you know, kind of big. And so I'm thinking, well, what the hell can I make that small? Make like a doorstop.
00:53:31
Speaker
Really nice doorstop. You could have that screwdriver. I had a thing I made and just make a handle for it. Yeah, I wouldn't want to take that though. Yeah. You know, give it away to somebody. Yeah. So I made it all. I actually forged out a piece of three-eighths round into a taper and made a handle. I'm thinking about making a little box for it. If the laser ever finishes cutting that goddamn one. Yeah.
00:54:01
Speaker
Yeah. And Jeff's been coming in at five 30 in the morning. I just want to get them cut. Like, it's like, if it kills me to know that the laser sitting there, not cutting, I'm sitting, I come downstairs, turn on the light, make some coffee. I hear him creeping in with a little, the gravel making tie the tiniest little noise. I heard Nick barking. Nick, Nick, he knows you come in.
00:54:36
Speaker
My dog, Nick. Yeah. It's like, that's like an extra, uh, it's an extra three rounds. Yeah. It's like, uh, yeah. 24. Yeah.
00:54:49
Speaker
Wait. Oh yeah. We don't really start. It's extra, it's extra toy. Yeah. Like an extra 12. If I was to come at seven, it's extra 12 boxes cut. Not now. Now it's eight. It has a slow laser down so much. The light comes on out there.
00:55:07
Speaker
Then the smoke starts billowing out of the shop, waking up the neighbors. The neighbors are asleep. I just reek like a campfire now, nonstop. My hands are black, permanently brown. I'm touching all the scorched edges. It's worked so far into my skin that I can't wash it out. Yeah, I wonder how long it's going to take.
00:55:31
Speaker
We're going to have to wear that layer of skin off. Yeah. Ali's like, you need some of that, uh, like go Joe. Yeah. You know, that's soap that like mechanics use lava. Remember lava soap. Yeah. Oh man.
00:55:47
Speaker
So yeah, we're trying to get those wrapped up. We'll head up to maker camp, then, uh, you know, deliver the boxes after that. Yeah. We're not going to be done by maker camp. I can tell you that much. No, we thought potentially that we would be, but yeah, we'll, we'll give it a good, good run at it, but we'll be still got a couple of weeks ahead of us. Yeah. And, um,
00:56:09
Speaker
Adam's not expecting them, you know, he wasn't expecting them until early November anyway, so we got time. I think I'm gonna make a salt cellar for the swathe. I have to use a different wood. Sapele. I use a piece of cherry. This is unique. First time I made one of these.
00:56:40
Speaker
So, yeah, I mean, that's pretty much all we got going on. It's just boxes on top of boxes. Yeah. I went to rehearsal last night because, you know, having a surgery today. After about an hour standing there, like the shooting pain between my shoulder blades. Well, you got like an 18 pound guitar too. Yeah.
00:57:05
Speaker
It's not for the faint of heart. No, it's definitely, it's a test of your willpower. As Rich the drummer says, grim determination. That's pretty much it.
00:57:20
Speaker
I mean, it's not as bad as all that, but it's, it can be frustrating because we're, you know, you're, you run into things all the time that you didn't know you were going to run into because it's not like you can, you know, we had a trial run of these.
00:57:40
Speaker
Yeah, we're learning. We started off with a thousand. Yeah, we're learning as well. Man, well, we left up on this one. We shouldn't have done that. I thought we were going to be able to use a sander like this and it's like, oh, we got better change plans. Right.
00:57:56
Speaker
It's a lot of thinking on your feet. You know, so you just grin and bear it. Yeah. You know, this is the way it goes. You make a wrong decision. It's multiplied times a thousand. So you got to, you got to really think about how you're going to do something. Oh man. I know. I know, but it's an adventure.
00:58:21
Speaker
So I wouldn't trade it. No, no. And we're going to do it again. It won't be as bad the second time around. I mean, part of it is where the shop is so small that there is just no room to operate.
00:58:36
Speaker
It's like anything, our hands are tied the way they always are where it's like, well, no, we can't start assembling these because then we're not going to have room for this. It's, you know, the size of the shop, it always goes back to that, like the root of all of our headaches because like, you know, and the power available. Yeah.
00:58:56
Speaker
So we're trying to get the lease hopefully signed this week on the new shop. We've got the slowest fricking attorney in the world. Apparently. I don't want to blame the realtor for recommending him, but he was on the list of a bunch of people that he gave us and he's slow. Yeah. It's like he just doesn't care about us. Yeah. I guess it's small potatoes for him. Um,
00:59:22
Speaker
but hopefully we get it figured out this week just so that we can start planning. You know, we've, we're thinking about things, but till we have concrete dates, we can't, you know, we want to buy a forklift and have that ready. And you know, we gotta be done with the boxes first of all, before we can do anything because we can't move shop in the middle of all that shit, but it'll be the perfect time to, um,
00:59:47
Speaker
the story. That's my aunt D. Well, let's wrap it up. We sent her flowers. Oh yeah. She'll leave a message. All right. It's good to see you. She didn't want to talk to her anyway. My aunt is very special. She kind of, she's kind of like my mom. You know, so, um, if you raise me, uh, it's a young adult.
01:00:13
Speaker
And Andrea sent her flowers. We don't visit as much as we should. If you're old, that's like... Yeah, her mind was probably blown. That's going to make her whole week. Maybe the whole year.
01:00:34
Speaker
Oh, yeah. You know, that's nice. And then they they love to talk, too. It's like, you know, Rob and Andrew sent me flowers. Yeah. You know, your cousin Jeffrey, you just got transferred to Central Park.
01:00:54
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Seinfeld. Everything goes back to Seinfeld. Oh, man. So this was quite an enjoyable trip down memory lane. Yeah. It makes me want to go back and reexamine some of those things that I'd forgotten. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be nice if we had somebody who could like go through all 52 episodes and make like a greatest hits. But that sounds like a lot of work.
01:01:19
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, you need an intern for something like that. Yeah. So, yeah, I guess that's all we got. If you have any thoughts on what you want season three to be, you got...
01:01:34
Speaker
We'll call it like five days to get that information to us. Yeah. I mean, we can always, um, yeah, we could change some questions and go back to, you know, take a beer of the week and tool the week and all. And we have lots of stuff that we could fall back on. Yeah. Well, I don't think beer of the week is coming back. Yeah. Oh yeah. We can't end the daytime like this and never, never make it.
01:01:58
Speaker
We might have a special beer of the week, though, because we got the fridge filled with stocked up by Matt from First Do Construction. Yeah. So we might have to do that as an honorary. Yeah. You feel bad we haven't drank any of that beer yet. That's how work focused we are.
01:02:24
Speaker
Maybe at our, uh, if we try and do anything for the, uh, for our anniversary. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The shop is so full. We can't even like post anything. That's true. Well, anyway, let us know. Yeah, please. And thanks again for, uh, sticking with us for another 52 episodes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah.
01:02:53
Speaker
You want to say bye bud? We're, uh, we're ending the podcast. Come here. We've got our guests here. Do me a favor in the mic. Say thanks for listening. Why? Why? Cause you're down here. We're ending the show. Come on. Thanks for listening. Say it. You don't want to. Why?
01:03:21
Speaker
Why don't you want to say it into my mic? You want to say it in the Rob's mic? Come on. Well, you got shy all of a sudden. There's thousands of people going to listen to you. He's hiding behind the chair now. All right. Well, we'll talk to you next week. Ciao.
01:03:37
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01:04:17
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Ain't no shame, but there's been a chain