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Nico Leaving Tennessee, Daredevil is Back, Ice Cream, and Torpedo Bats
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The boys break down the drama around Nico Iamaleava leaving Tennessee, give some ways that football and basketball could innovate like baseball has with the Torpedo bats, talk about the new Daredevil show from Disney, and give some updates from the NFL offseason.
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Introduction and Podcast Topics
00:00:12
Zack
What is up? Welcome to the Next Guy Up podcast. We are back. The boys are back. We had a lot of news today. We got some stuff to cover.
00:00:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
Transfer Portal and Solutions
00:00:22
Zack
um We have a a huge transfer in Tennessee, in Knoxville. ah We have some Benedict Arnold action going on.
00:00:33
Zack
um We will talk about that. we'll talk but The thing that people need to hear today is to is ah the next guy uptake on the transfer
Entertainment and Opinions
00:00:42
Zack
portal situation. So that's what you're going to
00:00:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yep
00:00:45
Zack
ah We got the takes. I think we got some solutions to fix it.
00:00:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
so
00:00:48
Zack
Probably not, actually. I don't have any solutions. um
00:00:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We're big solutions, guys.
00:00:52
Zack
Yeah, we we like to fix things.
00:00:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We're we're problem solvers.
00:00:55
Zack
We don't just point out the problems. We we fix them. So we will be doing that. ah We have a lot of... It's kind of a... um a mixed bag today. You know, we, we got a lot of stuff cooking.
00:01:07
Zack
We, we have some, should I watch that? There's been some, some TV out. Tens has got some hot takes he was sharing with it, with the class.
00:01:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:01:15
Zack
Uh, he, he's got some things that's on his mind. He wants to, he's got to get it out, but we do have a fun show for you today.
00:01:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:01:24
Zack
ah Do we want to... I was just talking about this. think this could be fun way to
Innovations in Sports Equipment
00:01:29
Zack
open the show. um I was thinking about the Torpedo Bat situation in the MLB.
00:01:36
Zack
If you're unfamiliar, they've redesigned the shape of the baseball bats. And some of the franchises in the MLB have been using them. And the bats are performing very well.
00:01:48
Zack
Lots of dingers. Lots of home runs.
00:01:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
what people like to see.
00:01:51
Zack
Something about the shape of the bat being better suited for like the sweet spot. I'm not exactly sure about the math behind all of it. Tins, are you ready?
00:02:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, therere they're essentially putting, they're taking wood from other parts of the bat that are useless and putting it more concentrated where the perfect spot for where the ball hits.
00:02:05
Zack
Okay.
00:02:12
Zack
Right.
00:02:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So you get more power. You should launch better.
00:02:16
Zack
I like that.
00:02:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You still have to hit the ball. That's my thing with the torpedo bats is everyone thinks it's just like you're playing wiffle ball now with this thing.
00:02:18
Zack
You do have to hit the ball. hard
00:02:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, you still have to hit a baseball that's going 90 plus miles an hour. If you're not good at hitting a baseball, it doesn't matter how big your bat is in theory.
00:02:35
Zack
True.
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Zack
Theoretically.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Theoretically.
00:02:39
Zack
So um I was thinking about the idea of this has been kind of a fun innovation this year. Hopefully they don't ban it and they keep it around.
Fun Sports Rule Changes
00:02:50
Zack
because it's one of those fun talking points.
00:02:52
Zack
And I was thinking, what would what would be that in, say, football or basketball? What would be the innovation where they could be like, you know what? We're going to try and increase performance by 5%, but it's going to make a big impact on the game.
00:03:09
Zack
like This is going to be a game changer. Maybe changing the equipment or equipment.
00:03:17
Zack
My first instinct is in football, if you added like 5% more grip to the football.
00:03:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, okay.
00:03:25
Zack
Because you feel like it would decrease fumbles. It would make some of the circus catches a little bit easier.
00:03:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:03:32
Zack
If it's just got a little bit more stick to it, guys could be doing some one-handed stuff.
00:03:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay.
00:03:37
Zack
It would it would kind of increase the level of doing something kind of fun, you know?
00:03:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, the crazy one-handed stuff that we all like to see. I was thinking,
00:03:49
Zack
Drop passes aren't fun for anyone. No one wants to see a drop pass on the football field, but fun catches.
00:03:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah Yeah, fun catches. I like that. I think if you made the field five yards wider,
00:04:02
Zack
Spread it out.
00:04:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
so I guess 10 total, five on each side, but like just a little, you know, <unk> got a little bit more room to go east to west.
00:04:07
Zack
and i forget and what You feel like it would change the game a good bit.
00:04:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, that's lot more lot more ground to to cover.
00:04:17
Zack
That's a lot of real estate.
00:04:20
Zack
For sure. More room to to play. um um I still got a little bit of wilder idea. In the NBA,
00:04:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This one, this one's good. I like i like this one.
00:04:32
Zack
this was a little more drastic, but in the last like three seconds of a shot clock, the rim grows 20% larger.
00:04:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I want to see how this would work.
00:04:46
Zack
so if you're so if you If you wait very end of the shot clock, ah you have a better chance at and hitting the basket than you did if you shot it earlier. Just to increase the suspense a little bit. It's like some strategy play. You want to wait until the very end?
00:05:02
Zack
you got You got a better shot.
00:05:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's true. I, that's, I didn't want to see that somehow, some way.
00:05:09
Zack
I think the other thing you could do is, I mean, this has been talked about some, maybe not by a lot of people, You know in the like pop-a-shot games where in the last like five seconds it's like double points?
00:05:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:05:23
Zack
I think you could do that. In the last 30 seconds of both halves, ah threes are worth four points and twos are worth three points. So it helps you make up a margin a little bit. So if if you're shooting at the very end of the game, it's it's like a clutch bucket.
00:05:40
Zack
It's worth an extra point.
00:05:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. who See, if you start throwing around like clutch bucket, because they have a whole award now, most clutch player.
00:05:48
Zack
They do.
00:05:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And it's like they do clutch points. It's like points scored at the end of halves or the end of the fourth quarter or whatever they call it, basketball.
00:05:55
Zack
Yep.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Hmm. Okay.
00:06:01
Zack
It's worth an extra point. So then, it I mean, at four point you could a four point play is really doable. Five point play if you get fouled.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's true.
00:06:08
Zack
I mean, that's something.
00:06:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
wonder how many more points LeBron would have in his career if they did that. Probably a lot.
00:06:15
Zack
Probably a couple.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
A couple more.
00:06:18
Zack
Five or six more points. I think that could be fun. I mean, obviously, it feels more exhibition-y. It feels a little bit Mickey Mouse, but I think it could be...
00:06:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:28
Zack
it would add a fun wrinkle to games.
00:06:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I think so. Something to do.
00:06:32
Zack
We're not used to it, so no one would like it, but it could be fun.
00:06:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
they It'd be fun if they did that for an all-star game.
00:06:39
Zack
Mm-hmm.
00:06:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
that'd be That'd be a good way to kind of jazz up the All-Star game because it kind of sucks.
00:06:43
Zack
That's true.
00:06:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
For NBA at least.
00:06:48
Zack
Yeah, it can. For sure.
00:06:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
NFL, they don't even do one anymore. It's just like competitions, random recess game competitions.
00:06:59
Zack
What if in the NFL...
00:07:04
Zack
I'm trying to think of something. It's kind of like...
00:07:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
NFL is hard.
00:07:07
Zack
NFL, it's it's tough to change football rules because i mean all of the equipment is kind of just standard. It's not like there's anything crazy going on.
00:07:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, there's not really like a big advantage to any of it. Golf, making the holes like
00:07:21
Zack
Oh, that's a fun one. Okay, I got one.
00:07:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
the further out you are, somehow the the bigger the hole is, the further you are from it. And then as you get closer, it gets smaller.
00:07:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like every time you hit the ball, it gets a little smaller.
00:07:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Increased hole-in-one chances.
00:07:40
Zack
And go ahead.
00:07:42
Zack
Mmm. That's interesting. I like a decision where you get to make a choice. Between one thing or another with higher stakes, like with the better reward, but it's the hardest to do.
00:07:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Or the other.
00:07:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
More risk.
00:07:57
Zack
Yeah. um Speaking of golf, Masters, you locked in?
00:08:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Masters. Yeah. um I need to just formally announce that I'm breaking up with Cam Smith.
00:08:11
Zack
Ooh.
00:08:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cam Smith. He was hot on the PGA Tour a couple years ago.
00:08:15
Zack
Mm-hmm.
00:08:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um He lives. he's He's from Australia, so that makes him cool. He's got a mullet, cool mustache, um and just kind of a wild, zany guy who lived in Jacksonville when he was playing on the PGA Tour.
00:08:21
Zack
sure
00:08:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Then he took a bag of money from Liv, and now he kind of sucks at golf.
00:08:34
Zack
top right Wow,
00:08:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And I keep betting him, and I'm done. We're breaking up officially.
00:08:41
Zack
that's big of you.
00:08:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It sucks. I really liked him, but I got to find someone else.
00:08:46
Zack
Bryson.
00:08:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Bryson showing out for live.
00:08:49
Zack
Bryson, look. Suddenly becoming like one of the most likable guys in the sport somehow. um
00:08:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
After being the most hated for a while.
00:08:56
Zack
Yeah, YouTube has like completely rehabilitated him somehow.
00:09:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:01
Zack
Electric. He had that huge putt on 18 today.
00:09:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep. To bring it to two.
00:09:05
Zack
mean, that's fun stuff.
Golf Innovations and Masters Talk
00:09:06
Zack
Yeah, it was ah electric.
00:09:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i ah What's funny is so I have Rory in our dynasty thing um that I'm getting killed in.
00:09:13
Zack
Oh...
00:09:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah I don't root for Rory at all. I picked him because like he wins. like the the then He doesn't win majors. It's been like a storyline. He hasn't won a major in 11 years or something.
00:09:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um I don't like Rory McIlroy. I think he's really obnoxious and kind of just like...
00:09:30
Zack
Yeah.
00:09:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
annoying. Um, I'm rooting for Bryson. I took a little bet on him today.
00:09:36
Zack
Me too.
00:09:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I've got, I bet on Scotty this morning. Uh, he kind of, he fell behind the pack.
00:09:43
Zack
Yeah. Yeah.
00:09:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So I'm going, I'm going all in on Bryson.
00:09:43
Zack
Yeah. yeah
00:09:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I hope, I hope he wins. It'd be funny. Cause ah live guy winning would be funny.
00:09:53
Zack
yeah
00:09:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They haven't put him on a feature group all week.
00:09:54
Zack
ah
00:09:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like he's not had any coverage until, uh, until I guess Sunday it's recording on Saturday night. Um, like they, yep.
00:10:05
Zack
He's been really consistent.
00:10:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:10:07
Zack
He had like 69, 68, 69 today, think. So he's playing solid. I'm not really a golf guy, but so that's as far as my analysis is going to go there.
00:10:18
Zack
ah Fun guy.
00:10:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's been really consistent. Rory, rory like is note like, it's a known thing.
00:10:21
Zack
Yeah.
00:10:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's going to choke. He choked today. he He started out the first five holes with birdies, and then um he got all the way up to, like, minus 13, and then choked it all the way to minus 9.
00:10:34
Zack
Sheesh.
00:10:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then now he's he got up back to 12, so good for him. But you just kind of know, like, there's something in the back of your head that's like, Rory's going to do something and implode, and the Internet is going to laugh and laugh and laugh.
00:10:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's just how the world works.
00:10:56
Zack
I've got... I've got one more on the idea of basketball agreements.
00:11:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right.
00:11:02
Zack
um It is...
00:11:06
Zack
No, wait. It was football. I'm sorry. This is a football improvement. Two-point conversions.
00:11:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:11:14
Zack
I think if you go for two-point conversion, it should be from the five-yard line, but you get 12 players.
00:11:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I like that.
00:11:25
Zack
make it like Make it completely different. like something A play that's totally unique.
00:11:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:11:30
Zack
There's nothing like any other play call because you've got an extra person. So it's from the five, but you get an extra guy.
00:11:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah like that.
00:11:40
Zack
You think that wouldn't be fun?
00:11:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, that would be that'd be awesome.
00:11:42
Zack
That would be fun to watch because it would be totally different than every other play in the game.
00:11:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And that 12th person can be whatever you choose, like a skill guy or an offensive lineman if you wanted.
00:11:50
Zack
Yeah, another wide receiver could be an extra blocker.
00:11:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Ooh, that'd be fun.
00:11:56
Zack
And that's so far enough you can't just like tush push it in. you know it would It would still be like you've got a
00:11:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
Humorous Soda Fountain Rant
00:12:01
Zack
get to run a real play from the five.
00:12:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah gott Yeah. You got to draw something up.
00:12:05
Zack
ah
00:12:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I like that.
00:12:06
Zack
it it would make teams make a real decision about one versus two. like therere
00:12:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That would be cool.
00:12:11
Zack
Right now, unless it's ah like unless it's late game situation, no one's going for two.
00:12:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:12:19
Zack
It's just automatic go for one. But it would it would make people think stop and think, like, we're an extra guy. We really like these plays that we've drawn up. I think they could work.
00:12:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I like that.
00:12:29
Zack
It could really change scoring in the in the NFL in a fun way.
00:12:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We need to send this clip to Roger.
00:12:36
Zack
let's Let's run that.
00:12:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
get Get us on the the competition committee.
00:12:41
Zack
I mean, they changed kickoffs to be a little bit more of a gimmick. ah It's a little more gimmicky.
00:12:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, but they just copied that. They copied that from XFL because the NFL isn't creative.
00:12:49
Zack
Maybe we need to give the XFL two-point conversion idea.
00:12:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:53
Zack
Maybe the XFL would jump onto that.
00:12:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
so it's a You know who's like the commissioner of the XFL?
00:12:59
Zack
Who?
00:13:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
00:13:01
Zack
It's somebody like that.
00:13:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Andrew Luck's dad.
00:13:03
Zack
Oh. see Andrew Luck fired ah the coach, right?
00:13:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:10
Zack
He fired the Stanford football coach?
00:13:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Stanford coach and then he brought in Frank Wright.
00:13:16
Zack
Big stuff.
00:13:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
who's one of his coaches in Indy under Doug Peter. And he was also on, Frank Wright was one of Doug's guys for a long time. Shout out.
00:13:23
Zack
Big Doug.
00:13:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Dougie P.
00:13:30
Zack
Shout out.
00:13:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Back to high school football in Louisiana.
00:13:31
Zack
Okay, I'll keep thinking. If I got any more as the ah episode goes on, I'll call them out.
00:13:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
right.
00:13:37
Zack
They just got to come to me. I
00:13:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It got to just pop in.
00:13:42
Zack
i mean, people people do stuff like this all the time.
00:13:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I like that.
00:13:46
Zack
Like the designated hitters and stuff in baseball is basically like, what if we had a guy who literally just hit, didn't have to do anything else?
00:13:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:13:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Sure.
00:13:55
Zack
It's fun. I mean, it's it's just like, once if someone if once it gets integrated, it becomes a normal part of the game, you know?
00:14:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. People...
00:14:03
Zack
12th man on the field.
00:14:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
that I think that could work that would be fun.
00:14:06
Zack
mean, that'd be fun.
00:14:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That would be awesome.
00:14:10
Zack
Okay.
00:14:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Defenses would be crying. me
00:14:12
Zack
They would be.
00:14:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's an unfair advantage. No one cares about your defense. We're trying to score points.
00:14:16
Zack
Better stop it. You'd have a lot more like 8-7 games, or like, you know, with one point across, you'd have more square gamis.
00:14:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
More squirigamis.
00:14:26
Zack
I think you have to make the two point conversion as appealing as the one point convert.
00:14:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:34
Zack
Like make make they have to make make a decision every time you may like the two book conversion needs like a 25% chance of working or the one point conversion has a 90% chance of working.
00:14:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Make it a true 50-50 if someone's going to run it. Yeah.
00:14:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:14:49
Zack
So it's like a real, is the extra point worth the risk?
00:14:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I like that.
00:14:56
Zack
okay Okay. I'll send in some recommendations to XFL.
00:15:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. XFL,
Shed Chaos Story
00:15:03
Zack
It's your luck. Walk your emails. Yeah. It's coming.
00:15:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
uh, your people get in touch with our people.
00:15:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right. Um, right. Well, that does not transition us at all to what I was about to say.
00:15:17
Zack
Yeah, we crushed the Masters already, so we're good there.
00:15:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Masters. Um, I have an announcement. I have another announcement. So I don't remember how long ago it was. I think I said I was going to not drink out of soda fountains for six months um because I needed Donald Trump to fix this problem in America because now he's been busy.
00:15:29
Zack
i mean
00:15:32
Zack
He did say that.
00:15:36
Zack
The biggest problem in America right now.
00:15:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We've got the tariff. We got the tariff off with China.
00:15:43
Zack
Yeah.
00:15:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um This is a political podcast, so we will be diving into tariffs and the 120% tariff on China.
00:15:44
Zack
yeah
00:15:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Just joking. I don't know anything about that.
00:15:50
Zack
Yeah. I've run the numbers. I think it's a good, it's going to work.
00:15:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Sounds like a good number.
00:15:54
Zack
So.
00:15:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Everything we get in America is from China.
00:15:57
Zack
Round up.
00:15:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So, yeah, I think they're going to be willing to do that.
00:16:04
Zack
Me too.
00:16:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And that's.
00:16:04
Zack
i think um yeah I think in about 12 years, the returns are going to be worth all the pain right now. That's whenever I've calculated it's all going to come out in the wash.
00:16:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. So there we go. This is this is financial advice from the next guy podcast.
00:16:16
Zack
so
00:16:23
Zack
We know things.
00:16:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We know we're really smart about political stuff.
00:16:30
Zack
and Now here's our main political correspondent, Mason, in the field.
00:16:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:16:34
Zack
In China.
00:16:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep. That's where he reporting live from import export central of China.
00:16:36
Zack
Booth on the ground.
00:16:42
Zack
From the Apple warehouse in China.
00:16:48
Zack
a
00:16:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah Thanks, Mason.
00:16:51
Zack
He will never he would not be coming back to the U.S.
00:16:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mason's in the exact opposite of China right He's in Indiana. He's in the middle of Indiana.
00:17:03
Zack
As far I'm trying to possibly get.
00:17:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Literally. bet there's not even like a Chinese restaurant where he is. there's There's not a Panda Express 50 miles close to Mason right now.
00:17:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right.
00:17:20
Zack
Okay.
00:17:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, so yeah, after, so yeah. So I know Donald's been busy doing that and then he fixed the water pressure in America.
00:17:23
Zack
Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:28
Zack
Shout out.
00:17:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Shout out. Didn't know that was the thing that was happening.
00:17:32
Zack
Yeah.
00:17:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But so i think soda fountains have got to be on his list upcoming, like maybe one or two more down, but
Local Ice Cream and Coffee Shop Preferences
00:17:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I will put a caveat. I've been doing Baja blast because that's never messed up. It's always fine.
00:17:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But we did Wendy's the other night. Oh, so good. So Wendy's. And I got ah got a Coke.
00:17:50
Zack
out to good question
00:17:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
a it tasted like their holiday Coke that they were running at Christmas, which was like cinnamon. Why? why is it Why did it taste like that? Good question. Don't know.
00:18:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But it was still just it was just carbonated, overcarbonated. it was just gross. It was just nasty. I'm i'm so done soda fountains still sucking. So ah ah update on the boycott. still boycotting.
00:18:18
Zack
Okay.
00:18:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Another thing I'm boycotting myself um for putting myself in this situation. Men out there, you're in charge of a lot of stuff in your house.
00:18:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
One of them is the keys to things, to your garage, to your storage buildings, lockers, whatever you got.
00:18:36
Zack
Yep, yep.
00:18:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I have a storage building in my house. There's a little shed out here. And it came with the house when we bought it. It came with a set of keys, the spare key and the main key on one key chain.
00:18:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And I've always said, I've joked about this before. I've said, it'd be really good if we lose this because they're together. Why don't I separate them? And I never did.
00:18:58
Zack
yeah Yeah, last person to see it.
00:18:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, it finally happened this week, folks. I went out to the shed. i got something, brought the keys in. i guess I set them down. Macy, my seven-year-old, said, yeah, I saw them the other day on top of my toy kitchen. I didn't touch them because I know that those go to the shed and I'm not supposed to touch them.
00:19:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
was like, you're suspect number one now. um because, yep, and then admitting that you didn't touch it, you you touched it. So I had to break into my shed.
00:19:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Morgan needed something for her um party party planning a event stuff that she does. Someone was renting stuff for her Wednesday night. So Wednesday afternoon, i was like, hey, where's the key? I'll go get that stuff for you. And she was like, oh, I don't know.
00:19:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So couldn't find it. So I had to take the door hinges off. with a drill i'm out there just it's a whole thing my neighbor came over was like everything okay i was like not now neighbor busy everything's not okay lost my key um so then had to break the handle to get to get it off had to go up to crossville where this thing was built to get a new one because theres it's a custom built custom built
00:19:55
Zack
no
00:20:11
Zack
Run some fancy sheds out here.
00:20:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, it came with the house. I wouldn't pay for this thing. It looks like it's expensive. um And had to pay $10 to get a new one. And I've already separated the two keys.
00:20:24
Zack
Yep.
00:20:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
One of the keys is on my personal car key chain, keychain so it can't get lost.
00:20:25
Zack
my
00:20:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Then the other one will be hitting in an undisclosed location that only I will know. So if I die, I guess that's like the only bad part. No one will be able to get in.
00:20:40
Zack
The funny thing is going to be when you find the keys. Because it's definitely going to happen.
00:20:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep. I made that joke. You know when it's kind of like tense in your house and it's like too soon for a joke?
00:20:50
Zack
Yeah.
00:20:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So I was a little frustrated with every everyone, Morgan and Macy. I was like, guys, this is why we don't touch the key. I'm the only one who's allowed to touch the key. Why are you guys touching the keys? Now it's lost. Look what you've done.
00:21:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You know, I was a little bit too aggressive and sarcastic and mean because whatever, you know. So it was too soon to make a joke, but I made it today.
00:21:12
Zack
Yep.
00:21:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
was like, so where do we think we're going to find the key here in about a month?
00:21:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Everybody chuckled, but yeah, no, we'll find it.
00:21:20
Zack
Macy's very crying. think
00:21:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It'll pop up. It'll be great. It'll be a funny story.
00:21:25
Zack
like one of your dogs that ate it probably.
00:21:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That was a theory in the house.
00:21:30
Zack
Yeah. Likely.
00:21:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We've... One time, Macy hid my wallet when she was really little, and i had i bought all new had to like cancel all my cards and get everything new, new driver's license, and then I found it in ah like a pair of shoes that I never wear.
00:21:45
Zack
That's awesome.
00:21:50
Zack
Shout to Macy.
00:21:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:21:51
Zack
Maybe she did it again. Maybe it's Tatum.
00:21:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Ooh. little tag team action there.
00:21:57
Zack
Tatum said, let me cook.
00:22:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Speaking of which, Tatum is awake. For everyone out there, pardon podcast life isn't for everyone. I've got my seven-year-old watching my five-month-old.
00:22:09
Zack
Yeah.
00:22:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um My middle child, the five-year-old, is asleep, luckily. so we got I got one down, but the seven-year-old, she just texted me on her iPad and said, he just spit up.
00:22:18
Zack
What could possibly go wrong?
00:22:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What do I do? like, god you just wipe him up. he's He'll be fine. I'll put him in the bath when I get out.
00:22:26
Zack
my gosh. Morgan, if you're listening to this, this did not happen. He's joking.
00:22:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This is parody for clips.
00:22:37
Zack
Tatum's been to asleep all the whole time. It's fine. um Okay.
00:22:46
Zack
but you had to, Oh wait, we didn't get there. What's your, you had to take about the whole point of the story.
00:22:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, okay. Yeah. So, yeah. So we went to Crossfield by this handle and as we're like passing it, we passed this, old school ice cream place where they like, they make their own milk. You could buy like gallons of milk.
00:23:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They also had like steaks and stuff, I guess from the cows. it's It's a whole, whole ordeal.
00:23:10
Zack
Yeah.
00:23:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Maple syrup, honey, all kinds of stuff you could buy, but they had ice cream. I'm a big ice cream guy. I, uh, I love ice cream a lot. Uh, we're going on vacation at the end of may. I've already said that we're going to eat ice cream every single night. Um,
00:23:29
Zack
that sounds like a fun vacation
00:23:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, it's going great. That's like literally all I care about is just going to get ice cream. So we walk in this place and I got a waffle cone, two scoops for me and Macy. So we both got one.
00:23:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It was eight bucks. It had been eight bucks by myself at Baskin Robbins for that. Now, no disrespect to Baskin Robbins, a fine establishment, you know, but I'm, I'm saying let's get back to the mom and pop ice cream shops, find these places, places,
00:23:47
Zack
That's a good deal.
00:23:57
Zack
Yep.
00:23:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and support them because it's it's so it's so much better.
00:24:02
Zack
I thought that was going a different direction. um Because Mom and Pop are like small time. They're not Mom and Pop, but like the smaller franchised coffee places are like the opposite.
00:24:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, no, I'm...
00:24:15
Zack
Drinks are like $9 for like a coffee or whatever.
00:24:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Nope.
00:24:18
Zack
Yeah.
00:24:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Give me Dunkin' Donuts coffee for three bucks.
00:24:25
Zack
Hmm. Turns out it's not that expensive.
00:24:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, some mom and pops I don't. Yeah, some mom and pops I don't support.
00:24:32
Zack
Hmm.
00:24:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Some mom and pops I do. Ice cream? Check.
00:24:34
Zack
Back to it.
00:24:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Coffee? Uncheck.
00:24:40
Zack
I like that.
00:24:43
Zack
I feel like I'm Ice cream mom and pop could be it could be a viable business option.
00:24:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Maybe not Cookville because everybody's like, Cream City's the greatest thing that's ever happened to America. Look at our neon sign.
00:24:57
Zack
Dang. He's shooting shots, everybody. Watch out.
00:25:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We're here doing fundraisers for Cream City's neon sign. ah Last time I checked, they're a business. They can pay for their own neon sign. What are we doing fundraisers for?
00:25:09
Zack
Yeah, too bad. Dairy queens are down the road.
00:25:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, and it's better.
00:25:13
Zack
Perfectly good blizzard.
00:25:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah I'll say it.
Marvel and Movie Anticipations
00:25:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cream City, overrated.
00:25:21
Zack
There you go. I think you already said it with the sarcastic voice earlier.
00:25:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, it's all right. I just want to make sure it's clear for anyone who's not aware.
00:25:29
Zack
Okay.
00:25:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Just make sure I'm not allowed back.
00:25:32
Zack
I like that.
00:25:36
Zack
um Okay.
00:25:39
Zack
Um, Let's go ahead and um let's get some of our other fun stuff out of the way. We have some sports stuff to cook on a little bit later, but um there's been some new, ah some new Marvel stuff cooking.
00:25:53
Zack
um The new Daredevil TV show is out. I've been, i was hyping it up a good bit.
00:26:00
Zack
I thought but doing the last episode is not out yet. So the the season finale comes out this coming week. So thought I'd do a little should I watch that if you wanted to catch up.
00:26:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Dang.
00:26:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I need to catch up.
00:26:11
Zack
yeah some We got some more coming up and or season two very soon.
00:26:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know all of the, it's been sports. yeah This is my finally, can catch up on TV shows. Finally.
00:26:24
Zack
Yeah, well, they're coming out like three episodes at a time.
00:26:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right. Right now. Cause college basketball is done.
00:26:29
Zack
um Yes. So Daredevil, I was going to a quick little should I watch that on to try and just keep you up to date.
00:26:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:39
Zack
um It's a fun show. This is a, I would not call it a sequel. um They called it Daredevil Born Again because it's kind of a rebirth of this character in a different way.
00:26:54
Zack
um The first episode, some pretty drastic things happen. It's pretty clear that they're trying to push things in a different direction.
00:27:02
Zack
But overall, a lot of the vibe and tone is similar to the original show, especially the further you get in the season. It seems like the closer they are to the original tone. um there was a lot of There's a change in direction about halfway through. It was kind of ah mending together of two different ideas. It seems like if you followed this um production at all, you you saw that.
00:27:26
Zack
Disney really wanted to go a totally different direction. A lot of the cast was like, i don't that's a good idea. So they ended up kind of making two shows and putting them together. But the further you get in the season, the better it gets.
00:27:37
Zack
um Now here at the end, it feels a lot like vintage Daredevil. ah Wilson Fisk and Kingpin are back at it. We got some returning characters.
00:27:48
Zack
And overall, I really enjoy this show. I've really enjoyed getting to be back with some of the characters. um If you like the Netflix show, I think you will like this one. Get past the first couple episodes, and especially it gets it gets a lot better. It gets more cohesive. So I think it's a good show. where I think it's fun.
00:28:07
Zack
um i think it's a little bit of a return to form there. I'm pretty excited about Andor season two as well. They've had some trailers come out. I'm doing a little bit of a rewatch of the first season because
00:28:20
Zack
I remember a lot of things, but there's some things I don't remember and I want to be ready, primed up, ready to roll for season two. So some fun stuff coming out. Thunderbolts.
00:28:32
Zack
um ah They've been releasing some clips. i'm so I'm still on the train that Thunderbolts could be success. Call me crazy.
00:28:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah i'm I'm excited.
00:28:43
Zack
but um
00:28:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm excited for Thunderbolts. I think it's going to be good.
00:28:45
Zack
I'm not sure I will go the theaters to watch it unless reviews are really good.
00:28:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:28:50
Zack
if if If it gets really hyped up and people are like, wow, this is the best thing since Endgame or whatever, I may go. um If it's just like, yeah, this is a fun movie, which I think is probably what's going happen, I will wait for Disney+. plus
00:29:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:29:03
Zack
It's just so much that you are.
00:29:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're pretty quick to get it on there, too.
00:29:06
Zack
That's why. it And it's it's part of the... I'm not sure it's a great business model because there's a lot of people like me and you, I think, who are like, unless it's an event, I'm probably just not...
00:29:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:29:17
Zack
Because of how... When you have kids, it's ah getting to the movies is not easy.
00:29:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:29:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Especially when like
00:29:24
Zack
And it's expensive. And...
00:29:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, and like like like Megan, she doesn't really care about going to go see a Marvel movie.
00:29:32
Zack
She's not...
00:29:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
My wife Morgan does not care about going to see it. So i I think the last two times I've been to a ah theater for a Marvel movie is I've gone to Knoxville to go see it with Zach, where I've just been like, hey, Morgan, you got the kids today.
00:29:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm going to go watch this movie you don't care about with Zach and Mason because that's only way I'm going to watch it.
00:29:49
Zack
yeah yeah If things are trend and Doomsday is looking like it's going to be a big one, that may be movie-worthy experience. I know I'm part of the problem here with the downturn of theaters, but I'm sorry.
00:30:06
Zack
ah It is what it is. you know Especially because I can watch it three months
Snow White Film Backlash
00:30:13
Zack
later on Disney+. plus It does help.
00:30:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and Yeah, exactly.
00:30:19
Zack
ah But speaking of Disney Plus, do you want to do 10 seconds on Snow White?
00:30:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah Yikes.
00:30:31
Zack
but
00:30:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yikes.
00:30:32
Zack
Yeah, it's 1.6 out of 10 on IMDb. I called this a long time ago. One of the biggest flops Disney's ever had.
00:30:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think without.
00:30:40
Zack
Uh-huh.
00:30:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I think even without all of Rachel Ziegler's. Media bad, terrible media tour, I still don't think it would be a good movie. I still think it would have bombed.
00:30:51
Zack
Yeah, I don't think they've been good. i think people would have watched it more. I think it would not have bombed as bad.
00:30:59
Zack
i mean, a lot of the people who are like, wow, this movie, not watching it because of what she said, probably would not have gone anyways. ah You know, it's mostly, i mean, it's a movie for kids.
00:31:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:31:07
Zack
And at the end of the day, it's you're either trying to touch on nostalgia for adults or you're trying to touch on kids, not touch kids, but that wasn't right.
00:31:21
Zack
um Yeah.
00:31:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But it's it does stink because they've they've ah now they've essentially canceled the Tangled project.
00:31:25
Zack
Travis, no, I, I
00:31:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They were going to do a live action Tangled, which Macy's a big fan of Tangled. So that would have been fun if they would have stuck with that. So I don't know. shia She wanted to watch.
00:31:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
She asked me. It was funny. She goes, do you can I watch Snow White? And I thought she was talking about the new version of Snow White.
00:31:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And i was like, um I don't know if we want to watch that. it's It's not really got, I don't know. i haven't watched it yet. She goes, what do you mean you haven't watched it yet? It's a really old movie. I was like oh, you mean the old? Yeah, sure. Go for it.
00:32:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So she, I'm glad i I didn't just turn on the new one for her. I don't know that I would.
00:32:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Don't want to ruin the nostalgia for her.
00:32:19
Zack
Yeah, i'm good I'm good on that. um The nostalgia she has a movie from like this.
00:32:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. she only knows she only knows one Snow White.
00:32:30
Zack
Yeah, the real one.
00:32:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The only one.
Aaron Rodgers and NFL Speculations
00:32:35
Zack
Okay. um Do we want to... Do we have any NFL news before we kind of ah we end here with some college news?
00:32:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, just that Aaron Rodgers is ah holding the Steelers hostage without even being on their team.
00:32:51
Zack
fun
00:32:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah He did this to the Jets being on their team, and now he's like got the Steelers in this weird situation where he's like, yeah, I think I want to play for you guys, but I also just might retire.
00:32:53
Zack
Yeah.
00:33:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Who knows what I'm going to do? I'm mysterious. I'm Aaron Rodgers. Because this is the only landing spot for him anymore, is the Steelers.
00:33:11
Zack
Yeah.
00:33:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's Steelers or nothing.
00:33:13
Zack
What's the like best case scenario for this year for Aaron Rodgers? like What's his ceiling?
00:33:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i don't know I don't know how like good...
00:33:22
Zack
It seems like one of those things where it's like, are you worth all of the attention that you're getting?
00:33:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
that's what yeah that's what i That's where I'm at. like He's not a top 10 quarterback anymore. He's just not.
00:33:35
Zack
Yeah.
00:33:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
he he didn't miss a ton of time to He didn't miss any time this year for injury. he just He's like 42. Not everybody's Tom Brady can play at a high level, top 2 quarterback level at 45 years old.
00:33:42
Zack
Yeah.
00:33:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
like It's just not is not going to happen. And I don't know if going – I mean, the Steelers are good. So he could go on a run with them. Like, they've got a good defense and they and they've got a good defense. They've got weapons. But I don't know. I just don't see it working.
00:34:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If I'm the Steelers, I say um we're just going to draft Jackson Dart or try to trade up for Shador Sanders and do that. Instead of doing this dumb bridge quarterback, win nine games, make the playoffs, and pick at 17 again every year and never be able to get a quarterback.
00:34:28
Zack
Is the idea of a bridge quarterback just like a completely false? Like, has it ever worked? Has a bridge quarterback ever been successful?
00:34:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No.
00:34:35
Zack
Yeah.
00:34:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, it never works because you because quarterbacks don't sit. you You cannot draft a quarterback high up and then just let him sit. that like it Jordan Love was probably the last one that's worked for, Aaron Rodgers wasn't a bridge quarterback.
00:34:48
Zack
Yeah.
00:34:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
like No team just goes inside to mid-quarterback and then has a high-drafted rookie behind them and then doesn't play.
00:35:00
Zack
It feels like it should work. I just don't... I think the only way it works is if you have a really like a veteran quarterback ahead that actually cares about... It doesn't happen that often.
00:35:11
Zack
like You feel like like they so they tried to do they've tried to do this so many times and it just never works.
00:35:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:35:17
Zack
like You feel like the ultimate example is Brett Favre of Aaron Rodgers back in the day, right?
00:35:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But Farr never wanted Rodgers to like take his job. ah He was always like, no, I'm the quarterback.
00:35:28
Zack
Hmm.
00:35:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm still good. That's why he went to the Jets and then the Vikings. It's like what Aaron Rodgers has done.
00:35:34
Zack
Yeah. Yeah.
00:35:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
like He's trying to show that he was still the guy.
00:35:37
Zack
yeah
00:35:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah the The only example I can think of is Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco had a lot of success with Baltimore, won Super Bowl. Then towards the end of his career, he kind of like he lost a step, wasn't as good.
00:35:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They drafted Lamar, and he like really did help Lamar when he became the starter.
00:35:54
Zack
yeah
00:35:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And he's kind of done that in a couple other places now where he's like okay with being the backup or the the guy who's the starter, but he's trying to help the guy below him. Like he did that. He tried to do that with Anthony Richardson this year.
00:36:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I bet he does that in Cleveland this year um because he did sign there. I bet he is the starter, and then he's going to – I see him as a guy who will help out whoever Cleveland ended up drafting.
00:36:17
Zack
Yeah, you know who – there is one good bridge quarterback in the NFL today.
00:36:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, boy, here we go
00:36:23
Zack
You know who it is. See, you know. as soon as said it, you you you thought of the one guy.
00:36:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
we go. He's not a bridge quarterback. He's a backup quarterback.
00:36:31
Zack
But he could be a bridge quarterback.
00:36:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You think so?
00:36:36
Zack
He would be electric. I mean, even if he's a backup to a young rookie, I think – could you imagine – let's say you had Cam Ward out there.
00:36:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:36:47
Zack
As your starting quarterback.
00:36:51
Zack
Could you imagine a better guy in the league. To have as the backup. To like support him. Than Jameis Winston.
00:36:58
Zack
would not Would he not be valuable to have. There. Where if something did happen. He could play. But he's going to be the ultimate. Like good. Locker room guy. He's going to be support. He's going to have the veteran stuff. He's going to know the stuff that. Rookies need.
00:37:13
Zack
Like that's. That's the mentor piece you want. He is the guy for that.
00:37:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right, so it's not that I don't believe in Jameis Winston. I think he's electric. He's fun.
00:37:29
Zack
Mm-hmm.
00:37:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He probably would be a – I think he would be a good asset to a young rookie quarterback who's drafted highly. like He was former first-round draft pick – first overall draft pick um starter in the league for a long time. So, yeah, he could do all that. I just – Jameis Winston is either your backup quarterback or if he is your starter, I don't – Like a bridge guy, like you're kind of expecting just to go out there and lose and kind of be bad.
00:37:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Jameis is a wild card. He'll win you a game. He could lose you a game too. um Maybe three. But you know he could win you one. He has been delivered from pick
00:38:08
Zack
I think
Nico Imaliava's Transfer Impact
00:38:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
sixes though.
00:38:11
Zack
let's amen um think they should have and ah an award for backup quarterback of the year.
00:38:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Backup quote. So like best hype guy.
00:38:21
Zack
Yeah, it's like a six-man award, but it's backup quarterback.
00:38:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, six-man who never plays.
00:38:26
Zack
Yeah, you can't actually start or else you're eliminated from con contention. You can only be backup guy.
00:38:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah What's his name? ah Daniels. Chase Daniels would have ah hero on that he wouldn't won that award a lot.
00:38:39
Zack
Yeah.
00:38:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Guy made $10 million dollars to throw. I think it's like he threw 50 attempts in the NFL in regular season.
00:38:49
Zack
There's a couple of ah former Vols who are having some pretty good backup quarterback seasons.
00:38:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know.
00:38:55
Zack
and Hooker, Joe Milton.
00:38:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hendon Hooker. Yeah, Joe Milton's officially ah back up now.
00:39:00
Zack
Big Joe. Yeah.
00:39:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
he He'll get some starting time because Dak's always hurt. Dak always gets hurt at least once.
00:39:05
Zack
Shout out. My God, Joe Milton. Everyone doubted him and look at him.
00:39:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Everyone still should be doubting him.
00:39:11
Zack
That's fine. Guess what? He's back over the year. ah
00:39:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
he
00:39:14
Zack
Pretender.
00:39:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He lit up some third string guys against the Bills who had already locked up a playoff spot.
00:39:18
Zack
Bingo. Yeah,
00:39:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
and got and The Cowboys traded traded away more than the Patriots. Like it's just what the Cowboys. I'm telling you, man, they're slowly turning into like a very bad franchise.
00:39:30
Zack
they're a disaster.
00:39:35
Zack
Yeah, like the Browns.
00:39:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like the Browns. Yeah.
00:39:38
Zack
The Titans. Titans.
00:39:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I didn't, bring I didn't, I didn't bring them up.
00:39:45
Zack
Yeah, we don't have to do this. We don't have to Titans talk today.
00:39:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. We've got the, the NFL draft will be,
00:39:48
Zack
Cam word. Ooh. I
00:39:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah next episode Next Monday's episode, we can talk a little NFL draft because that will be the week of. See where we're at.
00:40:00
Zack
like that.
00:40:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
should We should have some rumor seasons should be done. we We should know what a couple teams are aiming to do.
00:40:07
Zack
Yeah.
00:40:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Maybe we'll have some trades. Maybe Aaron Rodgers will figure out what he's doing. Probably not.
00:40:13
Zack
Probably not.
00:40:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Coward.
00:40:17
Zack
Okay, well, let's wrap up with um
00:40:22
Zack
probably the, if not for the Masters, probably one of the biggest college football ah things of the day for sure. Nico Imaliava entering the spring transfer portal after a wild story.
00:40:38
Zack
He was apparently participating in team practices all week.
00:40:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:40:43
Zack
He went out and had ah dinner with all the quarterbacks on Thursday night, Friday morning, didn't show up for practice, didn't show for meetings, refused to answer any phone calls from any teammates or coaches, and informed was the team was informed that he was, in fact, entering the spring transfer portal, and he is no longer a part of your Tennessee Volunteers.
00:41:05
Zack
Okay. There is speculation that he was, I'm not sure speculation, and maybe just fact. ah He was asking for an enormous amount of money.
00:41:16
Zack
He's making what what was a groundbreaking amount of money, $2 million dollars per year.
00:41:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:41:23
Zack
It was kind of the first huge contract that was released in NIL.
00:41:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:41:27
Zack
It prompted a ah the University of Tennessee filing a lawsuit against the NCAA and doing this whole whole mess. And now here we are a year later. Nico is in the transfer portal.
00:41:40
Zack
And yeah, what a story. what ah What a wild ride the last couple days it's been for... Tennessee orange and white game was were recording this on Saturday. So orange and white game was today.
00:41:55
Zack
um Nico lists. People were pretty mad about it.
00:42:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:42:01
Zack
Understandably so. a Quarterback room is currently a freshman, a true freshman and a redshirt freshman.
NIL System and Transfer Portal Debate
00:42:09
Zack
So it's interesting stuff.
00:42:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. I am. What I hope happens from this. there's ah There's a lot of things, but what I hope happens from this, I know this won't happen. He obviously has a destination probably in mind if he entered the transfer portal, but I hope none of the big schools hope none the big schools take him.
00:42:29
Zack
i
00:42:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I hope he has to go to Oregon State or San Diego State, something like that.
00:42:38
Zack
Yeah.
00:42:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Knock down a peg.
00:42:43
Zack
I don't...
00:42:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
knock um knock them down a peg
00:42:45
Zack
I would not be surprised if he ends up at UCLA or USC. I also would not be surprised if he ends up in the Big 12 somewhere. If he ends up like...
00:42:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Texas Tech.
00:42:55
Zack
Yeah, a high octane kind of.
00:42:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah That's a big one I've seen.
00:42:57
Zack
I've heard Texas Tech a lot. um Texas Tech, UCLA, USC are the big ones.
00:43:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
UCF.
00:43:05
Zack
Yeah, there's a lot of programs out there. i not sure there's any that are going to pay him $4 million. dollars What an ah absurd amount of money.
00:43:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:43:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, but he's not even earned. Like, I don't know, even last summer. you got i wasn't I wasn't buying into the Niko, like, hype train i had it's pretty i don't know i just something about i don't like a run first quarterback and i just didn't feel like i mean he was good for hypo's offense for what he likes to do running the run and shoot and quick read and all that good stuff but i don't know i'm not i'm not devastated that he's gone especially like the way he's treated i'm just like all right whatever like let's just move on
00:43:48
Zack
Yeah, the national news has and national kind of response has honestly been very pro Tennessee and anti Nico and his family, which is um kind of different.
00:44:02
Zack
Usually the national narrative is pretty anti-Tennessee because ten and that we do it to ourselves. I mean, it's, it is what it is, but, um,
00:44:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Listen, Twitter gets one coach unhired one time and then you get labeled a bad fan, you know.
00:44:16
Zack
back yeah, you're not wrong about that, but, um,
00:44:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Throw one golf ball at Lane Kiffin and the world's ending.
00:44:24
Zack
Mustard bottle. Yeah.
00:44:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:44:26
Zack
And there's certainly some sort of some things that have happened. But this one seems like Twitter was not involved, luckily.
00:44:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:44:37
Zack
Nico and his family chose this. Nico's dad was on Twitter making some crazy statements. Did you see this, Tim?
00:44:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, I didn't. No, I did not.
00:44:46
Zack
Oh, yep. um You need to look into that one.
00:44:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, okay.
00:44:51
Zack
He... um
00:44:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Send me some of that. I know you got bookmarked or liked. flu Send me.
00:44:55
Zack
Yeah, our basically, he came he's kind of been the orchestrator of all of this, it would seem. um This Pete Nekos was originally dropped the story about Neko potentially entering the transfer portal.
00:45:15
Zack
ah Nico's dad, his name is Nick, did not ah was not not pleased with that and had something to say about how he was characterized, I think. And he kind of went on a little bit of a ah Twitter tirade.
00:45:29
Zack
that did not look good for him at all. And it became pretty clear. He was the one that was ah kind of moving the chess pieces around here, talk to Nico into kind of handling it the way he did, which was by all accounts, just pretty much the worst way you could handle it, which was just not showing up and just, it seemed like they were, and the whole thing has a perception that the E.
00:45:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:45:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:45:51
Zack
Maliaba family was trying to strong arm Tennessee program by waiting until we're waiting this late for, ah into a time whenever the spring transfer portal is very, very limited in quarterbacks.
00:46:06
Zack
um I read something like 42 of the ah
00:46:13
Zack
I'm going to mess up the stat. It was something like 42 teams had already got a quarterback out of the transfer portal this site like this year. And so it seems like the people who have already needed a quarterback have picked up all the quarterbacks.
00:46:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:46:30
Zack
The remaining quarterbacks are are very few and far between. There's a five-star in the portal if anyone's interested right now. But other than that, it's pretty dry. And so you're leaving your team...
00:46:43
Zack
he was trying to strong arm the team and say, if you don't give me this money, I'm just going to leave. Tennessee kind of called his bluff and he was like, he kind of was forced to leave at that point. He does not have a destination.
00:46:55
Zack
um i don't think there's anyone that's even going to pay him the money that Tennessee was paying him left in the portal.
00:47:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:47:02
Zack
And so I think he's going to end up getting paid less. He's going to playing for, probably a worse team. It's because all the teams have quarterbacks. I don't understand what he's... what do you He kind of just played it very poorly.
00:47:17
Zack
And now Tennessee's in a pretty bad situation. a team that had playoff aspirations. Tins was talking about the over-under. Win total was at 9.5 before this happened.
00:47:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Minus money.
00:47:29
Zack
Yeah.
00:47:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
As of like 3 o'clock this morning, because it became like officially official this morning, um i was kind of looking I was looking at some stuff, and it was 9.5 wins for UT minus 140.
00:47:33
Zack
yeah
00:47:39
Zack
ye
00:47:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then once it became official, it's now dropped to 8.5 plus money. So the books are telling you Nico transferring is worth a win and a half.
00:47:57
Zack
yeah now we're um mean, there's difference between a playoff appearance, probably. Right. I think we're still in an era where 10 wins probably get you into the playoffs.
00:48:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Yep.
00:48:05
Zack
So that's the difference between making the playoffs and not making the playoffs, which feels honestly kind of right.
00:48:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yep
00:48:14
Zack
Depending on what happens, obviously, um we do have a couple of guys waiting. Jacob Merklinger, redshirt freshman, George McIntyre, true freshman, four star guy.
00:48:26
Zack
We got some talent still floating around the program. um Everyone was kind of hyping up those guys saying, you know, they're going to get the job done.
00:48:36
Zack
We'll see. i think that they're going to have to go after someone in the transfer portal still and hope they can entice someone to Tennessee with a pretty big paycheck. Now that the $2 million dollars that were set aside for Nico has been opened up, we cleared some cap space.
00:48:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:48:52
Zack
um Tens, do you have any overarching takes? I know that these takes are flying around everywhere and if they're kind of, no one really has an original take other than just the system is broken or whatever.
00:48:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:49:05
Zack
But do you have any takes on the Transfer Portal NIL situation in college athletics?
00:49:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Yeah. I get, I don't, I don't like to take that it's ruining college football or college but sports in general. um Cause I was pretty pro the players deserve to be paid.
00:49:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
These universities make a ton of money. I mean, astronomical amount of money from TV deals and players weren't getting anything. So i'm cool with players getting paid, but this is the, this is where we create a system before it was like,
00:49:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
had rules because now now we have this stuff going on. there's no like There's really no rules to it. It's kind of just the Wild West. And so this trial and error, it's unfortunate that Tennessee had to be the trial and error, and we've lost you know the biggest quarterback prospect that's come in since Peyton, right? like I mean im ah am I crazy for saying that?
00:50:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like Nico was like a really high recruit like it across the country.
00:50:09
Zack
um Yes, he was the number one recruiter of the of the class by all accounts.
00:50:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:50:16
Zack
Yeah.
00:50:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Last time that happened was Butch Jones telling Trevor Lawrence he didn't want him there.
00:50:23
Zack
That's tough.
00:50:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's tough. N.T. Higgins. Could have had them both. Big guy, nothing. Shout out Butch Jones. um So this is where I think there has to be these guys getting paid.
00:50:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're professionals at this point in a way.
00:50:41
Zack
Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There should be contracts. I agree that there should be some kind of stipulation and contracts. There has to be. I'm so tired of the the transfer portals when they're allowed to be open because of ah enrolling in school.
00:50:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
like Are we really going to like keep doing this this this fake thing where well they can only enroll in classes for these X amount of days? like It's the same that happened during the the college football playoffs.
00:51:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The Penn State backup quarterback who has packages like play played played a lot for him this year.
00:51:11
Zack
hu
00:51:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
entered the transfer portal because and was in the middle of the playoffs because it was when he had to register for school. Like I don't, that's dumb. um So I think we got to work on that.
00:51:22
Zack
Agree.
00:51:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i think there has to be some contracts.
00:51:24
Zack
Yeah. I think there's some things you can put in place to help.
00:51:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:51:29
Zack
I think something like if your team is still playing, you can't transfer. I think that's, that seems like an obvious one.
00:51:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:51:38
Zack
i mean, that can be contractual. I think, um
00:51:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think Nico should.
00:51:43
Zack
If you don't do that, bowl games are going to go away if you don't start writing in something about guys participating in bowl games.
00:51:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:51:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:51:50
Zack
They'll cease to exist. I think um the one I could see happening is
00:52:00
Zack
some kind of contract with...
00:52:05
Zack
I mean, then it's, I don't know, it it is a slippery slope, but something least like a either limiting transfers like it used to, like one transfer total.
00:52:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:52:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:52:17
Zack
i mean, it would it would that would help significantly a lot of the movement.
00:52:23
Zack
I don't know if that would ever go through at this at this point in time and where we're at in the system. I don't know if they could reinstate that, but I think that would really help.
00:52:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:52:32
Zack
I think you could do contracts, like you said, at least like two years. you know We'll pay you this much for two years.
00:52:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:52:38
Zack
if you go to the If you want to go to the NFL, that's fine. But you can't go to another team.
00:52:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:52:43
Zack
Two years.
00:52:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. I've seen, it's like you agree to and i deal out of high school and it it, it goes up each year that you're at the university.
00:52:56
Zack
Yeah.
00:52:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And if you leave and transfer somewhere else, then it, see, but then it's a universal, then you're talking about salary cap.
00:53:00
Zack
Starts over.
00:53:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like that's, it's too, that I don't know.
00:53:06
Zack
Yeah, I've seen that as well, if you're talking about through the university.
00:53:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:53:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah There's some schools that are going to have more money to spend than others. um But there has to be a system. I don't like the transfer portal dates. That's a big thing I don't like. I think there should be a set time.
00:53:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You have these two weeks, whatever it is. That's your transfer portal window. There's no more going in and out after that. I agree. i think I think a one transfer should be a rule, especially for college basketball.
00:53:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um See, I know the Nico thing is big. But to me, it's affecting college basketball more than it's affecting football, I think. Because really in football, it's just the quarterbacks kind of all changing around.
00:53:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's like a really big deal. At least in my opinion. I don't know. I mean, like how much is a receiver or running back really making that much of a difference um in the transfer portal?
00:54:00
Zack
Yeah.
00:54:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But in college basketball, it's it's a pretty big difference. Like if Cooper Flagg were to transfer somewhere else this year, like If he came back and transferred, like that'd be a huge deal.
00:54:14
Zack
Yeah. I mean, the problem with college basketball is that the top programs are doing even more hoarding of the talent.
00:54:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I read there's going to be eight teams.
00:54:23
Zack
um Not just out of high school either. That's the problem.
00:54:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:54:27
Zack
Kentucky's whole whole Their whole system used to be, we're going to get all of the best recruits out of high school. And then they may play for one year and then they're going to leave.
00:54:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:54:38
Zack
Well, now those teams, Kentuckys and Dukes and North Carolinas and Kansas, name them, have the ability to say, well, this guy had an awesome season freshman year at this ah Big 12 school, this mid-major school, whatever it is.
00:54:54
Zack
um we're going to offer much money. Now we're going to just collect talent from everywhere. You know, I mean, so it doesn't have to be out of high school anymore.
00:54:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:55:02
Zack
It can be collecting it from other teams. So it's, it's a rich get richer situation, which is kind of always what this is. It was going to look like probably, but it's fun if you're Duke or,
00:55:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:55:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The school is a lot of money.
00:55:19
Zack
Kentucky or yeah, you can just and create these super teams through with the best players from across the nation, but.
00:55:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, there's a rumor there's going to be eight teams with $10 million in college basketball lineup next year. Eight teams. it' It's a big chunk of cheddar.
00:55:37
Zack
Yeah, the reality is is there's going to be a lot of coaches around the country. mean, Josh Heupel to an extent has dealt with this where you're going to get – you work really, really hard.
00:55:48
Zack
You put a ton of time and energy into getting a freshman, ah like a four- or five-star freshman athlete and to on your team.
00:55:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:55:56
Zack
You coach them up for a season. You watch them grow. They have a good first season. um And then they just they roll somewhere else to win a championship or to compete. you know um We're going to see that a lot. I think it's going to be really a huge bummer for those teams where those guys have a really up-and-coming freshman guy who they're really excited about, and he is going to leave and go somewhere to make more money.
00:56:20
Zack
It's be a huge bummer.
00:56:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I
00:56:26
Zack
Yep. That's my take for Rob.
00:56:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah also think if it comes out true that Nico's dad, who is essentially his agent, has been shopping him, that Nico should lose some kind of eligibility.
00:56:38
Zack
Yeah, that was the other piece of the story is Dan Lanning factors into this story.
00:56:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:44
Zack
Apparently, Nico's dad was... essentially like 10 said shopping them around to some West coast teams and was, was saying, Hey, my son's going to enter the transfer portal.
00:56:57
Zack
Um, and kind of seeing what, where, what he was going for sort of.
00:57:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
right
00:57:00
Zack
And, um, Dan landing was like, Hmm, that's weird. And called high pole was like, Hey, just so you know, Nico's, uh, shopping around on the, west here on the West coast.
00:57:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
but the yeah if that's true um shout out dan lanning for being stand-up guy i guess um
00:57:11
Zack
so So, uh, yeah.
00:57:23
Zack
but Yeah. Yeah,
00:57:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Maybe he only did that because Nico didn't want to come to Oregon. And he's like, oh, yeah, well, watch this, buddy. ah
00:57:31
Zack
yeah I'm not sure Landing would have wanted him anyways.
00:57:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
who
00:57:34
Zack
He certainly wouldn't want to pay $4 million dollars for him.
00:57:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:57:36
Zack
True.
00:57:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, Dan Lanning likes 25-year-old quarterbacks
00:57:44
Zack
True.
00:57:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
who are like Shout out Dylan Gabriel.
00:57:49
Zack
That is hilarious that he just called a Bible. It's like, just so you know, that's, that's very it's very funny.
00:57:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But shout out Hypel for just kind of being like, all right, you know what? I'll figure it out without you. Hypel's the guy. um
00:58:05
Zack
Yeah.
00:58:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
if we had If we had a bad coach, I would be more nervous.
00:58:05
Zack
Yeah.
00:58:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like if we if we were sitting here with what's-his-face from Florida or you know or Matt Pittman or whatever his name is, Pittman from Arkansas, if we had a bad coach, I'd be like, oh, no we're in trouble.
00:58:13
Zack
yeah
00:58:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hypel, I trust Hypel. It might not be. the year we were all kind of expecting.
00:58:28
Zack
might be tough season, honestly.
00:58:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
might be a tough season.
00:58:30
Zack
yeah
00:58:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We've got big-time freshman quarterback coming in that i keep forgetting his name.
00:58:35
Zack
Brandon Bazon.
00:58:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But, yeah, Brandon Faison, he seems like, I don't know, I saw a lot of stuff where he's like recruiting other top recruits, being like, let's let's go run it together.
00:58:45
Zack
Yeah.
00:58:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I like that.
00:58:48
Zack
Yeah, George McIntyre could be a dude as well. I mean, there's not saying that we could, so who knows?
00:58:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We will have to see.
00:58:56
Zack
That's been your Tennessee fancy talk for the day.
00:59:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, definitely. We definitely dove into that more than we did ah Tennessee versus Houston.
00:59:08
Zack
I don't remember that happening.
00:59:12
Zack
Okay, well, that's a show for you folks.
00:59:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hey, we're a baseball school.
00:59:16
Zack
um Thank you for listening. We will be back, as Tim said. NFL Draft is upon us ah soon. We know how Mason and Tins love the NFL draft. So we will um have that coverage. Maybe we'll play a game with it. Maybe a competition.
00:59:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That'd be fun.
00:59:34
Zack
We should have Mason and Tins predict the top 10 in order and see who's closest.
00:59:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
See who can get closest.
00:59:39
Zack
Yeah.
00:59:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
right.
00:59:40
Zack
We'll measure
00:59:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That'd be good. We'll do that.
00:59:42
Zack
Okay. um And with that, we will see you next time.