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Final 4 Preview, Frustrating Sports Moments Draft, and Who Asked for This?

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The boys break down the Final 4 matchups and make some predictions, Mason unveils a new segment asking the age old question of "Who asked for this?", and we draft our most frustrating moments while watching sports.

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Weekend Leisure and Netflix

00:00:12
Zack
What is up, everyone? Welcome back to the Next Guy Up podcast. ah We had a very quiet weekend. That's why this pod's coming a little bit later than usual.
00:00:22
Zack
Not a lot to talk about. Not a lot of sports on TV. So, you know, catching up on the Netflix, catching up on some TV shows. ah Really just wanted to turn off the TV for the weekend.
00:00:34
Zack
Turn off the sports. ah Just get to reconnect with nature, you know? was a great time.
00:00:40
Mason
Nature.
00:00:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You're outside with nature.
00:00:42
Zack
I was, yeah.

Napping and Missing Out

00:00:45
Zack
I was in the nature.
00:00:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What about Sunday afternoon? what What were you doing about from 2 to 4?
00:00:49
Zack
I was ah taking a nap.
00:00:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, oh
00:00:53
Mason
Good Sunday nap.
00:00:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
that's a good nap time.
00:00:53
Zack
i was I was asleep.
00:00:55
Mason
I get behind that.
00:00:57
Zack
The whole time.
00:00:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, so you don't know anything that happened.
00:01:00
Zack
um
00:01:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Nothing that happened exists in the real world.
00:01:02
Zack
Nope.
00:01:04
Zack
As far as I'm concerned, there was nothing happened, yeah.
00:01:07
Mason
I feel like I could hear Zach's yelling from Knoxville, his screams.
00:01:11
Zack
It was not good. It was bad. Yeah. um Not pleasant.
00:01:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't feel like there's a lot of yelling.
00:01:15
Zack
First half.
00:01:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
feel like it was more pleading, more pleading of just please hit a shot.
00:01:19
Zack
There was some pleading. Yep. ah There was some pleading. There was some begging. There was some disbelief. The second half, there is like there's a couple of fun moments.
00:01:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:01:31
Zack
You know, there is just a handful of times where like, hmm, it could happen. And then it didn't happen.
00:01:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It was almost time for a run.
00:01:37
Zack
um The team fell apart.

Tennessee Volunteers' Tournament Woes

00:01:43
Zack
Why are we doing this now? we don't listen.
00:01:45
Mason
Which game are we talking about?
00:01:48
Zack
Tennessee bowed out of the NCAA tournament on Sunday in pretty disgusting fashion.
00:01:49
Mason
Oh, that game. Hmm.
00:01:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:01:54
Zack
It was never even almost sort of close from the get go.
00:01:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:01:59
Zack
15 points in the entire first half. One for 15 from three. The first three was hit with 30 seconds left in the first half.
00:02:07
Zack
pre Probably the worst half of basketball I've ever had to witness myself. And it was in an Elite Eight game for your Tennessee volunteers. It was very bad. Not good.
00:02:21
Zack
Not a fun day for me. But, alas, here we are.
00:02:27
Zack
Can't win the big one. You know?
00:02:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's crazy we've never been to a Final Four as a program.
00:02:31
Zack
Some people are asking.
00:02:34
Zack
Still. Yeah. Still.
00:02:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's wild.

Evaluating Rick Barnes' Coaching

00:02:37
Mason
Can I ask a question?
00:02:38
Zack
Yeah, you had Bruce Pearl as your head coach for many years, and then got Rick Barnes, and he's the active, most winningest coach in college basketball.
00:02:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:47
Zack
I've been to the Final Four once. We need Kevin Durant.
00:02:51
Mason
So I'm going to make this a, some people are asking questions.
00:02:52
Zack
Some people are asking questions.
00:02:55
Zack
Maybe we need Kevin Durant.
00:02:55
Mason
going to make this about NFL real quick.
00:02:56
Zack
Okay. No, I
00:02:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Maybe I've made a statement about calling a guy at Ole Miss.
00:03:01
Zack
no i don't want that guy.
00:03:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
this get
00:03:03
Zack
That guy's a loser. i don't want Chris Beard.
00:03:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's good basketball coach.
00:03:06
Mason
Hmm.
00:03:07
Zack
That's fine. I don't want him.
00:03:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He might be a bad guy, but he's a good coach.
00:03:10
Mason
He doesn't want him.
00:03:11
Zack
yeah He belongs to Ole Miss.
00:03:14
Mason
You want to stick with Rick Barnes?
00:03:16
Zack
Yeah.
00:03:17
Mason
is it Can I make a comparison real quick? Is this any anywhere? Well, besides the fact that.
00:03:21
Zack
If you call him Mike Tomlin, I'm going to lose it on you.
00:03:25
Zack
Mike Tomlin
00:03:25
Mason
That's exactly what I changed my mind.
00:03:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
mason Mason, continue.
00:03:29
Mason
Well, Mike Tomlin won a Super Bowl, but it's always the get to the.
00:03:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No.
00:03:34
Mason
He's kept his job because he always gets to the playoffs and then they do nothing.
00:03:37
Zack
Rick Barnes has never been in danger of losing his job at Tennessee. Ever. Not one time.
00:03:41
Mason
Mike Tomlin's not either. Besides this last year, people were talking about it, but i don't think it was ever actually going to happen.
00:03:50
Zack
I think there's a question in this day and age of basketball whether or not you can get by with being a defense-heavy team and kind of piecing together a roster of guys you really like but maybe not the greatest athletes in the world.

Rick Barnes' Coaching Style Analysis

00:04:06
Zack
And I think that's what Rick Barnes has been has has made a career on.
00:04:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:04:10
Zack
Except for when he had Kevin Durant. I mean, he had he's had some NBA talent, but moved for the most part, he he kind of takes a ragtag group of people, makes it into the best possible version of that team, and then they get beat whenever they face like an elite roster in the elite eight.
00:04:27
Mason
Dalton Connect would like a word.
00:04:30
Zack
That's what i was saying.
00:04:30
Mason
Elite on the Lakers.
00:04:30
Zack
and But what happened? He met, yeah, from the Lakers. He's...
00:04:35
Mason
First round pick.
00:04:36
Zack
three points a game or whatever he's averaging. I'm not, Dalton Connect was an incredible, and I think he wouldn't have done that at another school. I think Rick Barnes made Dalton Connect into a better basketball player.
00:04:50
Zack
I don't think if Dalton Connect went and played at Duke, he was going to put the same numbers up. Maybe I'm wrong about that. i don't I think Rick Barnes is an elite player developer. He's, he's not an elite recruiter.
00:05:04
Zack
I don't,
00:05:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
he He takes one and two star guys and turns them into really good good college basketball players.
00:05:10
Zack
The sum of their parts is greater than each player themselves, which is, I think he's a really traditional guy in that way.
00:05:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:05:16
Zack
But I think there is a question in this day and age of basketball, if that's good enough to get a championship team out of, are going to be a team like the the current Duke team, the roster, or even the current Florida roster? Obviously they couldn't even compete with the current Houston roster.
00:05:31
Zack
It's a different level of talent at those

Final Four Predictions and Matchups

00:05:33
Zack
programs. Like pure athletically, it's different.
00:05:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:05:38
Mason
So you're not even taking beating Kentucky as a win.
00:05:41
Zack
No, it's a huge win. That's what saying. I like Rick Barnes.
00:05:42
Mason
and so i we we
00:05:43
Zack
i'm always been Rick Barnes guy. I don't think...
00:05:45
Mason
It's easy to focus on the loss.
00:05:46
Zack
i think he's great for for culture. um I really do like Rick Barnes. And I think he he does what's best for the players he has and stuff. I don't know if he's ever going to make one national championship Tennessee because of his kind of mentality, his mindset. Like, what are we going to next year?
00:06:04
Zack
I don't know. I know they signed like a one-star point guard though for next year coming out of high school. um They're losing like six guys off of their nine-person roster. So I don't know what they're to next year.
00:06:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:06:20
Zack
I'm not sure he knows right now.
00:06:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:06:21
Zack
out I'm sure they're going hunting in the transfer portal to find the most bang for your buck kind of guy out there that's going to sign with us.
00:06:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's going to find the most 24-year-old guys there are.
00:06:31
Zack
Yep. He's going to find the Lanier, the shooter. there's There's a bunch out there. He's going to pay him a decent amount of money.
00:06:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
oh yeah.
00:06:43
Zack
They really...
00:06:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Speaking a decent amount of money, Rick Barnes, shout out, million-dollar bonus for finishing in the top 10 media poll.
00:06:50
Zack
What a great ah gig that is.
00:06:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I heard and saw, yeah, I saw all the other coaches, like, final four bonuses and stuff is like 100K.
00:06:54
Zack
That's great for him. That's great for him.
00:07:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Nah, Rick Barnes said, give me a milli for finishing top 10, baby.
00:07:04
Zack
just Top 10 is great for him.
00:07:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:07:06
Zack
That's where he lives. He lives in the top 10.
00:07:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He saw that incentive in his contract and he was like, ah there must have been an error.
00:07:12
Zack
His agent added that in. We don't want Final Four. We want 10. We had good season.
00:07:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Rick
00:07:23
Zack
that's That's a smart move.
00:07:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ri Barnes, bag chaser.
00:07:27
Zack
What do you got? yeah ah this This roster next season iss going to be completely different. i mean We have maybe two guys on the current roster that will be here next year.
00:07:38
Zack
um Boy, I don't know what they're going to We've got a couple guys who've been there for a long time and kind of in the face of the program. that's I don't know. It'll be interesting.

Sports Betting and Game Strategy

00:07:50
Zack
We'll see. i don't I don't know if Rick Barnes to Chris Beard is to play, though.
00:07:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
you want
00:07:54
Zack
I don't like that very much.
00:07:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I wonder if Rick Barnes remembers how it is to coach a basketball team without Ziggler on it. like I feel like Ziggler's been his guy.
00:08:02
Zack
don't know. Four years.
00:08:02
Mason
Yeah.
00:08:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's that's his like right-hand man.
00:08:03
Zack
It's true. He can just give him the ball. Yep. But Ziggler obviously has a ceiling. It's pretty low. That's a little bit of a short joke.
00:08:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's about 5'11 ceiling.
00:08:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
but a five foot eleven ceiling
00:08:14
Zack
Yeah.
00:08:18
Zack
and Meshack obviously had some offensive limitations. He was better, but elite defenders, but we're not ever going to be elite scorers.
00:08:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:28
Zack
So that just kind of made your team a certain way. We've seen Houston be successful there, but Houston is, like I said, just they have more athletes, more talent. It's the same idea as what we ran into in football. When you run into the elite teams, it just, the rosters look different, you know?
00:08:45
Zack
The athletes are different.
00:08:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:08:48
Zack
So we're not we're not there. I'm not sure we will be under Rick Barnes, but I'm not saying I think Rick Barnes should be gone. I like Rick. I think he's does he's done a great job. and seriously I don't think anyone would doubt that. I don't think there's anyone who's saying he's he's not done a good job.
00:09:02
Zack
I think if you give any head coach in the country the roster Rick had this year, don't think any of them are going to put a better product on the court. This was the literal eight-person roster that they had access to after one of their starters went down.
00:09:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I agree. I agree with that.
00:09:17
Zack
In the preseason.
00:09:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Very true.
00:09:21
Zack
A big piece. So I don't know. That's where I'm at.
00:09:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah for one, I would just like to say I'm excited for this final four. um I'm okay that it's chalky. I know ah hot topic is all the Cinderella's didn't do the runs and this, this tournament's been kind of boring.
00:09:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't know. I mean, yeah, we've not had like any classic moments, but I feel like the best teams have won. um
00:09:48
Zack
ye
00:09:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So I don't know. I'm, I'm fine with where we're at right now in college basketball.
00:09:55
Zack
Top teams are there. Top teams look really good.
00:09:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:58
Mason
So we had a conversation with Zach's dad and shout out Robert.
00:10:00
Zack
Mm-hmm.
00:10:04
Mason
ah He made a comment saying, i think it might be a lot of it might be a lot of chalk and not so many upsets with how everything is with NIL and transfer portals and top heavy.
00:10:16
Mason
Well, I totally went against what he said and did

Tournament Trends and Potential Upsets

00:10:19
Mason
so many upsets in my bracket and kind of bedded that way as well. We had a couple. Let's not listen.
00:10:24
Zack
Mm-hmm.
00:10:25
Mason
But it it did go very chalky there towards the end, especially, which I feel like what everybody wants in the end. We kind of talked about it in the past, but you like the upsets at the beginning and then get those schools out.
00:10:36
Mason
And then we want to be very top heavy. But it starts to seem like Robert was right.
00:10:43
Zack
2008 we saw the same 2008 we had all one four off all one seeds this is not unprecedented this is not ah something that's brand new there's always been top heavy years think this one was especially so Duke certainly looks head and shoulders above the rest right now Auburn weirdly is ah is kind of at the bottom of my list I would be surprised like if I were to rank
00:10:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't know. I mean, yeah.
00:10:43
Mason
I wonder if it will continue to be like this.
00:10:49
Mason
Nothing since then.
00:10:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, nine. We had ones and twos only. Yeah.
00:11:13
Zack
the The four teams left.
00:11:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:11:16
Zack
Dukes at the top. Florida-Houston is an interesting question because on paper, I think Florida should be a much better team than Houston.
00:11:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But they've had two scares now in a row.
00:11:25
Zack
not I know.
00:11:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:11:27
Zack
I just watched Houston play, and I'm pretty scared of them at this point. so um I don't know what that looks like. and Maybe Houston is the second ranked, which is kind of a surprise. I would not have said that going in.
00:11:41
Zack
But Florida, if Florida plays their best game, they're much better than Houston, I think. and
00:11:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think so. i yeah Houston's not meta-shooting team like Florida yet.
00:11:48
Zack
yeah Auburn can beat... yeah
00:11:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Or Duke.
00:11:53
Zack
True. Florida, if they're playing on their on their best, they are scary.
00:11:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean, Clayton...
00:11:59
Zack
Florida and Duke both are just like scary if they're playing their top-level basketball.
00:12:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. do Yeah. If Duke's playing their top basketball, I don't think there's a team that could beat them. I don't know if there's a team that could cover 10.
00:12:09
Zack
Yeah.
00:12:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, even Florida, Auburn, Houston, I don't know if they could cover that number if if Duke is playing at their A game.
00:12:11
Mason
Mm-hmm.
00:12:11
Zack
agree
00:12:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, their last game, Cooper Flagg, I think he only scored like 10 points in the game, had six turnovers. Like he had a bad game. They still like destroyed Bama.
00:12:28
Zack
Yeah, they've not really even faced had a good game in this tournament so far. They've just coasted.
00:12:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, they they're kind of it's kind of like UConn the last two years where dave they've just absolutely demolished everyone in front of them.
00:12:35
Zack
Yep.
00:12:38
Zack
yep
00:12:44
Zack
I'm afraid they beat Houston by 10 or 15.
00:12:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:49
Zack
And then

Auburn and Florida's Performance Potential

00:12:51
Zack
Auburn's another one of those teams where if they get they get hot shooting, i think they can hold with Florida.
00:12:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:59
Zack
But I just i don't think it's going happen.
00:13:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, I think Jeremiah Broome's injury...
00:13:02
Zack
Walter Clayton has been on an absolute pair.
00:13:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Clayton will just kind of just take over the last few minutes of games, these last two, and has decided, we're not losing. I'm going to just do it myself.
00:13:13
Zack
don't know.
00:13:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And he's i mean he's been lights out. It's been crazy to watch. um I do think it will be Florida and Duke. I think Auburn's just the Jeremiah Broom injury.
00:13:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You don't know how serious it is.
00:13:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He separated his shoulder or something.
00:13:30
Zack
Yeah. Yeah, ah I don't know much about that either, to be honest with you. I do know Florida's got some serious length that could bother Broom, though.
00:13:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, they've got three big guys, um and they beat Auburn pretty bad in Auburn this year the end of the season.
00:13:49
Zack
Auburn is such a weird ah weird case study this year because they've looked dominant most of the season. And here at the end, they've just fallen off. And I don't know if there's a reason or an explanation for it, but they have just looked not like the same team that they did earlier on.
00:14:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, but they've but they've kind of bounced back in the tournament now.
00:14:08
Zack
Yeah, they haven't played a lot of really, really good teams.
00:14:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They haven't played it any.
00:14:12
Zack
um I mean, they they did beat Michigan State.
00:14:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They played Michigan State, who can't shoot.
00:14:14
Zack
Yeah, and they beat them pretty good. pretty good so
00:14:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I thought Michigan would have given them โ€“ I thought Michigan would give them a better fight with with Golden and and Wolf being two big guys that could maybe be in the paint and slow down Auburn down there.
00:14:20
Zack
It will be a fun final four.
00:14:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But that was not the case at all. Auburn absolutely handled them. So โ€“ I don't

Sports Betting Insights and Matchup Outcomes

00:14:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
know. ah Auburn to me is is like a wild card. I think if they're playing their best, they could.
00:14:40
Zack
i
00:14:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i mean, they were the number one see number one team all year.
00:14:47
Zack
They certainly can beat Florida.
00:14:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:50
Zack
Can they beat Duke? I don't know.
00:14:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I just don't know that anybody can beat Duke.
00:14:55
Zack
what it but i matt Can you imagine a ah national championship of Houston-Auburn? Wouldn't that be the...
00:15:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Boy, would that do bad numbers.
00:15:04
Zack
I know. that would be i know i don't think anyone's expecting that. Everyone can say that the top four teams are there and that it's going to be really competitive, but I think at the end of the day, in everyone's minds, I'd say it's Duke versus Florida or Duke-Auburn, probably.
00:15:19
Zack
Probably Duke-Florida.
00:15:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. That's the most, that's like the lowest odds number is Duke, Florida to play.
00:15:25
Zack
Yeah. But it just feels it feels inevitable. I think that'll be a very fun game if it gets there. I think that could come down.
00:15:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that would be.
00:15:34
Mason
Houston Auburn plus 600.
00:15:34
Zack
think that could be a very, very fun game.
00:15:35
Mason
Yeah.
00:15:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Plus 600.
00:15:39
Mason
yeah
00:15:40
Zack
For which one?
00:15:41
Mason
Houston Auburn. Duke Florida plus 130.
00:15:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:15:47
Zack
Wow.
00:15:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. i mean, that tells you right there.
00:15:48
Zack
That's wild.
00:15:51
Zack
Yeah. I think that's right. Which could be fun.
00:15:55
Mason
If you wanted to get Duke versus the field now, duke plus 100. Versus field.
00:16:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I ah know
00:16:01
Zack
Versus the field?
00:16:03
Mason
first the
00:16:07
Zack
That's gross. I don't really like that.
00:16:13
Zack
I think Florida is the piece that you can't... I don't know if I would take that bet.
00:16:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, because Florida florida has the the thing always like is is the point guard who can take over in March Madness. like That's that's it's always like the thing that scares you most.
00:16:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And they have that walter Walter Clayton. So, yeah, I don't know that if I would take that right now. I kind of thought about it the other day. I sent it in the text. I was like, what's stopping me from just betting Duke at plus 105 right now?
00:16:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I didn't, obviously. already have enough Duke futures laying around.
00:16:52
Zack
um Okay. Do you feel good about that?
00:16:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that's that's good. Final four would be great.
00:16:57
Mason
I feel great.
00:16:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Yeah, I'm happy with where March Madness is.
00:17:02
Zack
Let's talk about it. Yeah.
00:17:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
been It's been a fine tournament. Sometimes chalk is fine.
00:17:08
Zack
Fine tournament. My brackets look great because I went pretty chalky with my picks. so I made a couple of brackets in there.
00:17:14
Mason
think you're in the lead.
00:17:15
Zack
They're excellent. yeah
00:17:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I haven't looked at that in a while.
00:17:17
Zack
I've got Florida winning in one. I've got Duke winning in another, and they both look pretty good. I think one of them is going to win mile league the the league I'm in. So whichever whichever one of those two teams wins it all, I'm probably going to win that one.
00:17:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There you go.
00:17:29
Zack
So pretty exciting.

Unwanted Releases in Movies and Products

00:17:32
Zack
um Okay, so we have a couple other things we're going to do today. Some fun. we didn't I didn't even answer at the beginning.
00:17:40
Mason
Oh yeah.
00:17:40
Zack
ah We have a draft today.
00:17:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, yeah.
00:17:43
Zack
If you made it this far into our talking about Final Four, get ready for a draft. And Mason has a brand new segment debuting today. We're going I think let's do that first.
00:17:55
Zack
We'll end the episode with the draft.
00:17:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
right.
00:17:57
Zack
and So, Mason.
00:17:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Love that.
00:17:59
Mason
All right. I wish we had some game show music in the background. when We should just start playing. And I get my game show voice on. ah ah feel like we ask ourselves this question on the podcast or we make a comment.
00:18:11
Zack
Mm-hmm.
00:18:12
Mason
And the segment name is called No One Asked for This.
00:18:19
Mason
Or did someone ask for this? So how this going to work, I'm going list off something. ah Did we ask for this? And your response is i asked for this or no one asked for this.
00:18:25
Zack
yeah There's a lot of content out there that I did not ask for, but someone else is very excited about.
00:18:30
Mason
Or you could be complicated and say, maybe someone asked for this. but ah But you're necessarily not, because you didn't ask for it.
00:18:41
Zack
You know?
00:18:44
Zack
Not me, but other people, maybe.
00:18:45
Mason
So, and it's not just movies. This is movies. This is things. This is food. So let's start, and we're going to go each time...
00:18:54
Zack
mood Okay,
00:18:55
Mason
Zach tense. That's how we'll go. So, and no one asked for this final destination bloodlines.
00:18:59
Zack
great.
00:19:03
Mason
This will be the six final destination film. If you not heard, i saw a teaser trailer did not watch to the other, the actual trailer. Cause I was already like, great now a new fear, but,
00:19:15
Mason
They're at a restaurant, guy breaks a glass, cleans it up, and they zoom in on the ice bucket in the sink, and there's a shard of glass in the ice bucket. And I was like, great.
00:19:25
Mason
Now I'm gonna be looking in my glasses at my restaurant.
00:19:26
Zack
no
00:19:27
Mason
everybody Everybody's going to think I'm crazy because I'm looking for a shard of glass. So final destination, bloodlines. Did you ask for this?
00:19:36
Zack
I asked for this. Not to go to the theaters, but I want to watch it on Netflix later.
00:19:38
Mason
You asked for this.
00:19:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:19:42
Zack
It's a great, really good Netflix movie. I watched a lot of Final Destination movies like on cable television. i feel like they were always on somewhere. And you could catch some of it. There's some fun scenes. There's some like scary stuff.
00:19:54
Zack
It always was pretty entertaining though. I'm not mad about another Final Destination movie.
00:20:01
Zack
So yeah, i asked for it.
00:20:03
Mason
Alright, tens.
00:20:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah Yeah, I also asked for it. I think the public did too. I think i think everyone's fine with this this happening.
00:20:08
Zack
People wanted it.
00:20:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
like
00:20:10
Zack
Who's mad about it?
00:20:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Final Destination is an iconic um series, especially like our age range. like This is a movie everyone watched.
00:20:16
Zack
huh
00:20:18
Mason
Do we need six of these, though?

MLB's Torpedo Bats Debate

00:20:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
do any Do we need 19 Fast and Furiouses?
00:20:21
Zack
Mason, did you ask for it?
00:20:21
Mason
How many?
00:20:27
Mason
I asked for it.
00:20:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
In chess, that'd be called Checkmate, brother.
00:20:31
Zack
Got him.
00:20:33
Zack
Okay.
00:20:33
Mason
Okay, next thing.
00:20:34
Mason
i said there might be movies, there might be items on here.
00:20:35
Zack
Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:20:37
Mason
Next one. No one asked for this. Torpedo Bats. It's been hitting the sports talk by storm.
00:20:44
Zack
oh
00:20:45
Mason
Uh... They're legal. MLB confirmed that the bat last Sunday that the bats do not violate major league rules or bat supply regulations.
00:20:47
Zack
Mm-hmm.
00:20:54
Mason
Rule 302 states that the bats cannot be more than 2.61 inches in diameter and 42 inches in length. This concept makes sense. I know I'm brought in. Volpe says the one of the hitters for the Yankees, the bigger you have the barrel where you hit the ball, it makes sense to me.
00:21:15
Mason
Basically increases the sweet spot. Everybody's been hitting. I feel like now it's not as hyped up because now everybody's like betting these torpedo bat users and they're not hitting the home runs.
00:21:26
Mason
So did you ask for this, Zach? Do you care?
00:21:30
Zack
This is something that I didn't ask for, but I really appreciate.
00:21:35
Mason
Okay.
00:21:36
Zack
Here's what ah I want to give something else. No one really asked for this. What if we increase the size of baseball fields by 75% instead of 350 feet? It's like a 550 feet field.
00:21:51
Zack
And then you make the bats even more jacked up. Like you make them, like you just make the feat of hitting a home run significantly farther, but you like juice the bats even more.
00:22:02
Zack
Yeah.
00:22:03
Mason
and the but And you can juice the balls too, like the baseballs. So we just want longer home runs.
00:22:07
Zack
yeah like it's like Yeah. It's like when you play basketball on the trampolines, it's to like get the the most fun aspect of basketball is dunking. So it's said like, we'll just dunk all the time and we help everyone get to dunk. It's the same idea, but it's like, we're going make it harder to make it farther, but also we're going to make it easier for people to hit it
00:22:26
Mason
I like the idea, Zach. That's just going to cost billions of dollars of redoing every stadium. And...
00:22:31
Zack
Oh, it's a different week.
00:22:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, not every stadium is the same. it's i don't want I'm not trying to tip picks for the draft later, but I don't like that every baseball stadium is not the same.
00:22:31
Mason
and
00:22:34
Zack
Already. Yes, sir.
00:22:38
Zack
I agree.
00:22:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Some are home runs in some park, and then they're not in others. And I'm out here betting on guys to hit home runs, and it should be a home run. But in that certain park, it's 10 feet different.
00:22:51
Zack
yeah
00:22:54
Mason
We're freaking out about a bat size when other teams have an advantage of home team.
00:22:55
Zack
really
00:23:00
Mason
They can hit more home runs in, you know, ah is it Colorado where it's because of the elevation and the distance as well as pretty short. That's like a big home run.
00:23:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:11
Mason
And so if you're playing half your games there, feel like they have an advantage compared to other teams that have a further.
00:23:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The Yankees. Yeah. The Yankees are known to have ah short porch for right-handed hitters. So it's like easier to hit home runs over there.
00:23:26
Mason
That's good point.
00:23:26
Zack
Listen, here there at the end of the day, and this is not going to prove my point, but in NBA, but do you we watch NBA to see point to see buck buckets go in the basket.
00:23:38
Zack
You don't you don't watch NBA for elite defenses, right?
00:23:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:23:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:23:41
Zack
That's why they don't exist anymore.
00:23:43
Zack
It's it's why it's an offensive league. That's why teams are scoring 130 points a game or whatever. It's because people like to see score. That's why a lot of people would trash on the bat on college basketball because teams can score 15 points and a half.
00:23:56
Zack
It was not very fun to watch, but I think it's the same. people People like watching touchdowns. People like watching home runs. People like watching ah like birdies in golf. No one watches golf to so to watch pars and bogeys.
00:24:10
Zack
You want to see the birdies. I think more home runs is just good for good for baseball.
00:24:16
Mason
So the resolution all of this is to make the all the all the fields the same and make them 75% bigger is what I figured figure out.
00:24:24
Zack
I don't care if they're saying it much longer.
00:24:26
Mason
Well, Tinsley went on the same, so we're we're meeting in the middle.
00:24:27
Zack
I want to make the walls taller as well. I want to make the home run walls taller. All of them.
00:24:33
Mason
What if we put a moat? or like What if we put obstacle courses like out there too?
00:24:35
Zack
But, okay, here's what I want. This is for real. I want to make the wall tall, but I want trampolines in front of the wall so the guys can jump up and catch them.
00:24:41
Mason
Trampolines.
00:24:44
Mason
There it is. With the trampolines. There we go.
00:24:47
Zack
you know that would be ah Because catching the ball as it before it goes over the wall is awesome.
00:24:51
Mason
I'm surprised the Savannah Bananas haven't come up with that yet.
00:24:51
Zack
So, trampoline.
00:24:55
Mason
We should send that to them.
00:24:55
Zack
Probably pretty dangerous if I to guess.
00:24:58
Mason
Maybe just a little. Tens, did you ask for this? i don't know if I got your answer.
00:25:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um I didn't ask for the publicity of it. We got the sports books, like doing the whole promo section now of torpedo bats newsflash.
00:25:07
Zack
Yeah.
00:25:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This was good. These were being used last season at the end of the year. um Yeah.
00:25:14
Mason
Did not know that.
00:25:15
Zack
here first. from
00:25:16
Mason
Everybody wants the sports books once you bet on more home runs.
00:25:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It just wasn't as.
00:25:20
Mason
That's why they're.
00:25:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:21
Zack
Definitely.
00:25:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Fun fact yesterday, only one guy of the whole list of torpedo bats hit a home run. So newsflash, you still have to hit the ball with the torpedo bat to um hit a home run.
00:25:28
Mason
they may They made money off of that.
00:25:34
Zack
That's something.
00:25:36
Mason
This is true.
00:25:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And hitting a baseball still hard.
00:25:38
Mason
Okay.
00:25:42
Mason
This is also true. Okay, I got a long list here, so let's

Reese's PB&J Cups Reaction

00:25:45
Mason
keep it moving. Did you ask for this? And some of these are not slander to like, I'm not slandering them. I'm just wondering, are you interested in it? Did anybody ask for it?
00:25:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You're a big slander guy.
00:25:53
Mason
So i I think I, I think I asked for this one. Reese's peanut butter and jelly cups. We did a draft of dynamic duos and I'm pretty sure peanut butter and jelly was on the list.
00:26:06
Zack
That was mine.
00:26:06
Mason
of duos. So Zach, did you ask for this? Strawberry and grape already out now at Walmart.
00:26:18
Mason
He's thinking about it.
00:26:19
Zack
No, I didn't ask for this.
00:26:22
Mason
Wow. Have you tried them yet?
00:26:23
Zack
think I'm good. No, but I think I'm good.
00:26:25
Mason
Tinsley, you look like you're kind of shaking your head like you have tried them.
00:26:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. ah No, i just I didn't ask for this. i
00:26:31
Mason
Okay.
00:26:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't think you're going to find two, three more big Reese's guys than you're gonna find on this podcast. um I don't know where you stand on Reese's, actually, Mason. I know where Zach stands on them.
00:26:42
Zack
Love it.
00:26:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Yeah, but sometimes it's just too much of a good thing. It's just not necessary.
00:26:42
Mason
I like Reese's, yeah.
00:26:51
Mason
Are you going to try em
00:26:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, yeah, as soon as I see him.
00:26:55
Mason
them? We did a draft about candy one time, and I'm pretty sure someone drafted Reese's cups, and then someone drafted the big Reese's cup, and then Tinsley drafted the mini-bite-sized Reese's cup.
00:27:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that was me.
00:27:03
Zack
with
00:27:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
no No, I don't like the minis.
00:27:06
Mason
who
00:27:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I got the white chocolate ones.
00:27:09
Mason
Oh, white chocolate. So yeah he drafted like three or four different.
00:27:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I did an all-Reacy Cup draft.
00:27:14
Mason
That's right. Okay. Okay.
00:27:16
Zack
Speaking of too much of a good thing, is there no is like is there an amount of cream in between an Oreo where it's like too much?
00:27:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:26
Zack
where Where is it? Is it somewhere between double stuffed and triple stuffed?
00:27:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, newsflash, the double stuffed is is really just like are our version of single stuffed from when we were kids. The double stuffed is no longer double stuffed.
00:27:39
Zack
Inflation.
00:27:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, the inflation got them. um So there's like the mega stuffed and then there's the max. The max is too much.
00:27:49
Mason
Max.
00:27:49
Zack
it's more creepy cookie.
00:27:50
Mason
I've not tried it.
00:27:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, it's I think double stuffed is pretty perfect.
00:27:57
Zack
Okay.
00:27:59
Mason
All right. Next, next. Now that we got that established.
00:28:01
Zack
All right. amazing
00:28:02
Mason
All right. No one asked for this.

Interest Levels in 'Jumanji 3'

00:28:05
Mason
Jumanji three. ah Coming out in theaters December 11th.
00:28:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mason asked for this.
00:28:10
Mason
I asked for this. ah This was that we talked about dynamic duos. I drafted Kevin Hart and the rock. Same cast will be brought back for Jumanji 3.
00:28:22
Zack
Yeah. I'm like really close to being out on Kevin Hart. Like really close.
00:28:30
Mason
Wow.
00:28:30
Zack
He's just, he's, he's run his course. don't know. He is what it is. It's very close to.
00:28:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's just doing every project just to get the bag.
00:28:37
Mason
is it because it's kind of just the same thing over and over again?
00:28:41
Zack
Yeah. It's just like one of those things.
00:28:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, short guy who's like really loud and like makes jokes like, because short?
00:28:46
Zack
yeah Yeah, him and The Rock have the same dynamic in pretty much every project they do together.
00:28:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:28:53
Zack
um The first one was pretty funny. It was fine. I didn't mind it. I won't go away to watch the third one, though, for sure.
00:28:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Should have stopped there.
00:29:02
Mason
Is this also another watch at home situation?
00:29:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
haven't seen the second one.
00:29:02
Zack
Did not ask for it.
00:29:06
Zack
I mean, maybe not even that. I might not even watch it home. If it was in front of me, I may not watch it.
00:29:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:29:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, no, I definitely didn't ask for this. I didn't ask for the second one or the third one. I don't know if I asked for the first one, really. i think I just kind of let it it kind of happened and I was you know alive for it, but didn't ask for it.
00:29:14
Mason
Okay.
00:29:23
Zack
um
00:29:27
Mason
You guys know what I asked for this segment. I think this is a hit right now. All right. Next one. Everybody thought this was an April Fool's joke because it was released on April Fool's.

Popeyes' Pickle Menu Reactions

00:29:39
Mason
Tinsley, our Popeye's expert, so i actually want to start with him this time. ah This will be the Popeye's officially announcing a pickles menu.
00:29:50
Mason
I have the items here, a pickle glaze sandwich featuring crispy hand battered chicken coated in a zesty pickle flavored glaze topped with the cut pickles and served on a toasted bun.
00:29:50
Zack
um
00:30:04
Mason
Pickled glaze, bone and wings. They also have the boneless. And then, of course, you have to have the fried pickles. And one that also, and Tinsley did a, I believe you did a drink review about ah pickle. Was it not a pickle flavored soda?
00:30:22
Mason
So they have a pickle lemonade.
00:30:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Pickle Dr. Pepper.
00:30:25
Mason
Okay.
00:30:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It all the rage last summer.
00:30:27
Mason
So Popeye's has a pickled lemonade. The tangy, refreshing drink you didn't know you needed. The sweet yet savory ah lemonade infused with real pickle juice.
00:30:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:30:39
Mason
So, Tinsley, I want to start with you. Did you ask for this?
00:30:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I asked for all these things and I'm going to try all of them too.
00:30:46
Mason
Even the lemonade? You did try the soda, so that's not too much of a...
00:30:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, maybe not the lemonade.
00:30:51
Mason
There...
00:30:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
that might That might be pushing it.
00:30:53
Mason
you know
00:30:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But, yeah, I love i love pickles.
00:30:57
Mason
there
00:31:00
Mason
In order for them to obviously do this, they're bringing in jars and jars of pickles. And now they're like, well, we don't want to waste anything. So we have all this pickle juice. Let's make it into an item.
00:31:11
Mason
And so I think that's where the drink probably came into play. And people are going to spend the money on it. Zach, did you ask for this?
00:31:18
Zack
No, I'm not a huge pickle guy, I'll be honest with you.
00:31:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:31:20
Zack
I'm good on it. It's okay. um this is This menu is not made for me, though. That's okay.
00:31:28
Mason
Okay, and that's okay, he says. Okay, last but not least, our friend of the podcast who's been on here, Snack with Zach, did a KFC ah new fried chicken toothpaste review.
00:31:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
know, was like a novelty item, right?
00:31:47
Mason
Zach's face.
00:31:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's just like, it was just for fun.
00:31:50
Zack
I'm really good on that one.
00:31:52
Mason
Apparently you can buy it for $13 online while supplies last.
00:31:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, you can you can buy a lot of things online that are like a gag.
00:31:55
Zack
Wow.
00:32:00
Mason
So apparently it's 11 herbs and spices into their fluoride-free tube that promises a crispy, savory clean. Zach asked for it.
00:32:11
Zack
I did not. um yeah i think I'm good on that one as well. um
00:32:19
Zack
I don't think I would even want to try it.
00:32:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, no, I'm not trying that.
00:32:24
Mason
That one was just kind of for fun. And also a shout-out. Snack with Zach.
00:32:27
Zack
Shout out.
00:32:29
Mason
Shout-out. Okay, good work, everybody.
00:32:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wow. I thought there'd be more movies on there.
00:32:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah really thought you were coming for yeah I thought you were coming for a Minecraft or happy Gilmore two.
00:32:36
Mason
i didn't ask for any of minecraft.

'Happy Gilmore' Sequel Necessity

00:32:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i literally, when I saw the happy Gilmore two announcement and trailer, I heard it. My head Mason go, who asked for this?
00:32:49
Mason
Yeah, i was thinking about putting that one on there, and then I came up with a bunch of others, and I was like, I don't need 20 things on this list.
00:32:54
Zack
have to get more beloved movie, Mason.
00:32:55
Mason
list
00:32:56
Zack
People ask for that one.
00:32:57
Mason
The original one, maybe people asked for. Second one.
00:33:03
Mason
Like 30 years later.
00:33:06
Zack
That's cool. They're older. Wiser.
00:33:09
Mason
okay Adam Sandler is still going to be the same animal.
00:33:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
him going in the Hall of Fame.
00:33:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Of golf. His character. That's what it's about.
00:33:18
Zack
Really?
00:33:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:33:19
Zack
I like that. That's great. He deserves every bit of it.
00:33:23
Mason
it's It's not real.
00:33:24
Zack
What for the game? You grew the game.
00:33:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Fast Furious isn't real.
00:33:27
Mason
It's fake.
00:33:28
Zack
Got him.
00:33:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But you love it.
00:33:30
Mason
They go to the moon and ah in the 10th one.
00:33:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You can't use a card to do any of the things they do.
00:33:32
Mason
Spoiler alert.
00:33:35
Mason
They put jetpacks on it and shoot it to the moon. If you've not watched the 10th one, spoiler alert.
00:33:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, I haven't watched anything past the second one. I won't do it either.
00:33:45
Zack
you won't do it sounds good penalty good punishment oh not all 10 that's crazy
00:33:46
Mason
This should be one of the punishments.
00:33:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And you can't make me.
00:33:47
Mason
You have to watch all 10 of them in one sitting.
00:33:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, you know what? i didn't lose my i didn't lose my two seed in the very first weekend of basketball, so I don't get punished.
00:33:54
Zack
got him
00:33:55
Mason
i do I did the video, okay? I served the Punisher Man. We didn't talk about it. But I did the morning routine video, so...
00:34:02
Zack
Go watch the TikTok. Mason did the morning routine. Shout out to him.
00:34:05
Mason
Oh, thank you.
00:34:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, what a punishment. Making me watch Fast and Furious would be a punishment.
00:34:13
Mason
All right. I think that wraps the bow on that. I think it's draft time. That was

Drafting Frustrating Sports Moments

00:34:17
Mason
the perfect way to end it.
00:34:17
Zack
It's draft time, everybody. We have a very fun draft for you today.
00:34:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Who asked for this draft?
00:34:23
Zack
like Yeah, you be that smart. That's it. that um This draft is something that I think will be very fun. This is drafting the ah worst or the most frustrating things that can happen while you're watching sports.
00:34:39
Zack
This can be anything sports related as far as I'm concerned. This is stuff that when you're watching it on your couch, it makes you go crazy, makes you shake your fist at the TV, dream for a better time in sports.
00:34:55
Zack
Like when your team misses 14 reverse
00:35:01
Zack
That's my number one overall pick. When your team won't score 15 points in the first half. um When your team... won't spoil that. um I may pick that one later, depending on how this goes.
00:35:13
Zack
um i've got about I've got like 18 picks. I'm not usually this prepared, but i'm I'm very prepared today. I was pretty easy putting together this list. Had a lot of options out there.
00:35:25
Mason
I feel like everybody can relate to this draft. It's pretty good.
00:35:27
Zack
Yeah. I feel like for every one good sports day I have, I've got like five bad days.
00:35:32
Mason
It's good point.
00:35:33
Zack
Even if my team wins, it's like a bad day.
00:35:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, because you know you didn't really deserve the win, but yeah.
00:35:38
Zack
It's like, no, we could we should have been better. Yeah. If it's not a blowout, it's like a... It's not a good win. Okay. We're going to go for draft order.
00:35:49
Mason
Let's do it.
00:35:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
E.
00:35:50
Zack
Drafting first. Zach.
00:35:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mason, Mason.
00:35:53
Mason
Oh, come on.
00:35:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Zach.
00:35:54
Zack
Zach.
00:35:54
Mason
Let's go.
00:35:57
Zack
Okay, ah drafting second is...
00:36:03
Zack
Mason. 10 on the turn.
00:36:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mason.
00:36:05
Mason
All right.
00:36:10
Zack
Hmm. Okay, I've got a lot of stuff here. i don't think that there's an obvious number one.
00:36:19
Zack
But this is probably the one that drives me the craziest, so going to pick it.

Football's Holding Penalties Frustration

00:36:23
Zack
Um... I'm going to pick a, in football, I'm not a lot of baseball picks today, i just to tell you guys.
00:36:33
Zack
um In football, when a holding penalty brings back a long play.
00:36:40
Mason
Mm-hmm.
00:36:40
Zack
you You end up with a guy in the end zone.
00:36:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:36:42
Zack
He's dancing. He looks back. There's ah there's a penalty flag on the field. It's holding really far away from the play. didn't even matter. ah Refs throw the flag, and it comes all the way back. and Not only does it come back, but it's a 10-yard penalty. you go from Half the stadium is already celebrating the touchdown.
00:37:01
Zack
The other half is ah ah sees the flag on the field, and the notice is coming back. ah That's my most frustrating sports play.
00:37:11
Mason
This has happened to every single fan known to mankind. Derek Henry. I've seen him in the end zone too many times and there would be freaking holding call and it would be like he said on the opposite side where it didn't even matter.
00:37:28
Mason
So good pick.
00:37:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep. Yep. Top of my list.
00:37:33
Mason
Okay, I don't know if we ever established if we could do so ah sports betting included in this. I'm assuming yes, since nobody ever said no.
00:37:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, yeah.
00:37:41
Zack
Yeah, that's fine. Yeah.
00:37:42
Mason
Okay, I'm definitely going to go with my number one pick because this has happened too often and for tens as well. And that is losing your sports bet by the hook.
00:37:55
Mason
Nobody knows what that means. You had your player to score 20 points and they scored 19 or you had your team to win by two and a half and they only won by two.
00:38:09
Mason
Uh, you even had a team only losing by certain amount of points. And then the other team just goes down and a meaningless like score goes up. It's the most frustrating thing, uh, because your team is winning and you're like, well, or you're, you're not even, you're not even, it's not even your own team. You're just watching for the bet and you watch the whole game just for the hook.
00:38:32
Mason
So that is my number one pick.

Tony Romo's Commentary Critique

00:38:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep, that is, that's a good one. But sometimes the hook can also be good, but we don't remember those times.
00:38:43
Mason
but Would you text like, would you text five million times when by, yeah.
00:38:43
Zack
Yeah.
00:38:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
li Live by the hook, die by the hook, and I was living by it a few times.
00:38:47
Mason
Yeah. yeah
00:38:49
Zack
true
00:38:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right. um My most frustrating thing, the holding one was going my first pick. But I'm going to Tony Romo announcing your favorite team's game, him being the commentator for your team that day.
00:39:04
Zack
but
00:39:08
Zack
yeah
00:39:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We'll ruin your Sunday immediately.
00:39:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Immediately.
00:39:15
Zack
Yeah.
00:39:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Tony Romo.
00:39:17
Mason
Do you just watch the game on mute when that happens?
00:39:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Sure I sure do.
00:39:21
Mason
Can you explain?
00:39:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm listening to most games on mute this day, these days.
00:39:24
Mason
Yeah, you don't you don't have to give like an impersonation, but what what bothers you the most? Like explain if no one ever watches like or doesn't know what you're talking about.
00:39:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's the unnecessary, like putting himself in the middle of everything that happens or arguing with Jim about, Oh, I don't know Jim about everything.
00:39:34
Mason
Could you explain it?
00:39:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um,
00:39:45
Mason
You do hear that one a lot.
00:39:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And everyone immediately was like, oh, he's so great because he's like he's like calling out what they're about to do. I never thought that was great. Shut up. Just shut up and say what's happening in the play. Don't like forecast what's happening.
00:39:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't care.
00:40:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What we would do with the Cowboys, well, you never won anything in the playoffs or did anything ever, Tony Romo, as a pro.
00:40:00
Zack
Yeah.
00:40:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So I don't really care about what you guys would do as the Cowboys. You fumbled a snap as the holder on a kick on a field goal and lost a game to the Seahawks. Like, no one cares.
00:40:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's what you're remembered for. And breaking up with Jessica Simpson. Like, those are your two big things.
00:40:14
Zack
Got
00:40:19
Zack
him. Got him.
00:40:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So, Tony Romo.
00:40:25
Zack
I love it
00:40:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right, and then ah and basketball, especially in college basketball, not taking a wide-open three.
00:40:32
Zack
hu
00:40:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like when they they'll swing, you get a pass, swing out, second swing, perfect setup. You've got a wide-open three, and then they don't take it. I'm like, just take even if you're a bad three-point shooter, just take the shot.
00:40:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's so frustrating because then what always happens is they make that extra pass, and what happens?
00:40:50
Zack
Yeah.
00:40:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Turnover, fast break the other way.
00:40:55
Zack
Sure.
00:40:57
Mason
When I watch games with y'all and that happens, Tinsley shouts, shoot the ball! And of course, they don't. they don't and They pass it.
00:41:04
Zack
ah
00:41:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Never do.
00:41:05
Mason
And then he's like, you idiot!
00:41:05
Zack
It's true.
00:41:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
that they've They've schemed up a play like to get you wide open.
00:41:09
Mason
How many times has that happened?
00:41:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Just take the shot. Don't be a coward.
00:41:18
Mason
Don't be a coward.
00:41:21
Mason
All right, my turn. This has been the talk of the town here lately. They were even trying to, right now they're trying to change the rule. And I'm going to put watching the tush push as a play itself.
00:41:36
Zack
Thank you.
00:41:36
Mason
ah Happened in the Super Bowl, Jalen Hurts.
00:41:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's a legal formation every time.
00:41:41
Mason
Uh, we've, uh, I've also watched Tinsley yelled, this isn't a real play. Like I could just do this all day.
00:41:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's not a real play.
00:41:49
Mason
Uh, so, um I did not know, I did not know this, but defensive players cannot get behind and push.
00:41:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's a rugby scrum.
00:41:56
Mason
That is a penalty against the defense. So how in the world or pull and pulling is not allowed for any offense or defense. You cannot pull a player anymore because of the amount of injuries.
00:42:07
Mason
Because that was a thing that would happen where they would pull them in by their arms or whatever into the end zone.
00:42:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Okay.
00:42:12
Mason
So how can you tell me that the defense can't just get behind each other and start pushing, but the offense can do that? It should be allowed ah either way. I think it will get... get a But it's like, how do you... Now we're just talking about a QB sneak without... Because a QB sneak is fine to do.
00:42:29
Mason
Just don't get behind and push. So it's to be hard to kind of regulate.
00:42:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You can do a QB sneak without the two tight ends lining up six inches from Jalen Hurts' butt and then pushing him. that's what how you can That's how you can like tell the difference.
00:42:38
Mason
So what's going to happen is there's like this 430 pound defensive player, ah announced in the draft. Did you see this?
00:42:49
Mason
I may get the pound, like the, how much he weighs.
00:42:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The nose tackle from ah Florida.
00:42:52
Mason
Yeah.
00:42:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, you know he's 425.
00:42:53
Mason
Uh,
00:42:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's big boy.
00:42:56
Mason
somebody's going to end up drafting him probably earlier, earlier than possible, just to use him in this, in these packages, whether it's to to stop it or to use it for the, because what happens, we just keep getting, where we're going get that guy behind Jalen hurts to push.
00:43:06
Zack
Wow. You
00:43:11
Mason
Like if we don't, it's going to get out of hand.
00:43:14
Zack
yeah guys know what's going to happen in modern NFL?
00:43:14
Mason
feel like if we,
00:43:17
Zack
What if they just drafted really fast people that can go catch the ball instead of just running it every time? what they're going to break the NFL.
00:43:28
Zack
Sorry, I'm i' poking fun of Mason's argument a little bit. ah Why would they not draft people who can fit into what they want to do? There was a time in the NFL where everyone just ran the ball and they just that was that was the whole offense.
00:43:43
Zack
And then they said, what if we just use fast people to go catch the ball instead and got good quarterbacks?
00:43:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
catch the
00:43:48
Zack
Now we're just reverting back and saying, what if we're huge guys
00:43:50
Mason
But that's fun to watch. but
00:43:52
Zack
And they could just be unstoppable in short yard situations.
00:43:53
Mason
It's fun to watch.
00:43:57
Zack
So it gives your team a huge advantage.
00:43:59
Mason
I think almost just makes it a special teams play.
00:44:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm more mad about... It's just always... So he just rides on top. Like he get all of the offensive linemen, A, line up over the ball. All their heads are past the football.
00:44:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's illegal formation. I don't know why we don't call it. Probably because the Eagles and Jason Kelsey. breru um But Lane Johnson's shoulder pads half the time are past the football. on all All fours. Like he's down. like like that's not a That's not a legal stance whatsoever.
00:44:31
Mason
but None of it looks correct whatsoever. like It all looks illegal. They never show overview plays.
00:44:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But then, yeah.
00:44:36
Mason
Do you want to know why? They never show the overview on top because everybody's lined up incorrectly.
00:44:39
Zack
wrong
00:44:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's just ah it's just a dog pile, and then Jalen Hurts either like just gets pushed through it for six inches for the first down, or he just like gets on top of everyone, and they can't call the spot.
00:44:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Which...
00:44:55
Mason
Offensive lineman diving at the knees of the defensive line.
00:45:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
there is another rule change that maybe that'll help us because the refs can't spot the ball because it's just a big pile of men.
00:45:08
Mason
Oh yeah, they got rid of the...
00:45:09
Zack
Yeah.
00:45:10
Mason
ah They're using technology finally in the year 2025.
00:45:12
Zack
The center the ball is going to help.
00:45:12
Mason
The
00:45:13
Zack
Yeah.
00:45:16
Zack
Once that comes around.
00:45:16
Mason
the chainng the chain people are still going to be there for when they need them. So they didn't lose their job.
00:45:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's more of a decorative thing.
00:45:26
Mason
Okay, next.
00:45:27
Zack
Okay.
00:45:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Tush push.
00:45:29
Mason
Tishbush.
00:45:29
Zack
post Push push.

Debating the 'Tush Push' Play

00:45:31
Zack
Controversial. I'm on record. I don't mind the fish push.
00:45:36
Mason
He's on record.
00:45:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I would just like for the illegal formation to be called.
00:45:38
Zack
Okay.
00:45:41
Zack
i bet there was I bet there was one day whenever player people who were playing against Will Chamberlain were like, he's ruining the game. He's too tall. He can just shoot over the top of all of us. The game is ruined.
00:45:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah If it was like a skill play, sure, but it's literally just no.
00:45:54
Zack
that his skill just being taller than everyone else?
00:45:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, yeah, you'd learn how to shoot. yeah There's guys who are giants who don't.
00:46:00
Zack
Not really.
00:46:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Zach Eadie doesn't have any fundamentally good basketball skills.
00:46:05
Zack
If Zach Eadie played at the time of Will Chamberlain, he would be just as dominant. This is a debate for you.
00:46:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But, um yeah, i don't I don't know where โ€“ I'm just saying it's not a skill thing.
00:46:11
Zack
We'll talk about it later. well thank you not going
00:46:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i don't it's it's It's him getting pushed six inches from behind to get a first down.
00:46:22
Zack
People try new things that change the game all the time. it's All of a sudden, but people come and start shooting from further away and getting more points. And then all of a sudden, the change is back.
00:46:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's fine.
00:46:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That takes skill. This is a rugby play.
00:46:31
Mason
im I'm just waiting for i'm waiting for the Titans to actually be good and teams do this against the Titans and it's actually meaningful to him.
00:46:41
Mason
Or if this happened against his UT Vols, it does not matter to him.
00:46:42
Zack
Maybe that's why. I just don't care enough. Yeah.
00:46:45
Mason
That's why.
00:46:46
Zack
That's probably true. Yeah.
00:46:47
Mason
Thank you. All right. Now that we've established that. ten or Who's up? Is it Zach?
00:46:52
Zack
I'm up.
00:46:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:46:53
Mason
Okay.
00:46:57
Zack
Okay. I got this one. I had two options. I'm going to go with this one instead. um Getting a roughing the punter or running into the punter penalty ah on the and then giving the other team a free set of downs after you got the stop.
00:47:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yep
00:47:11
Zack
There's always nothing more demoralizing after, after you've got to, you've got to stop. You forced them into a punt situation. Then you just give them the ball right back and let them give them a new set downs.
00:47:21
Mason
Ensign PB, David Ensign That's good
00:47:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep, that's tier.
00:47:24
Mason
That happens. Yeah.
00:47:26
Zack
happens all the time. I don't know why people still do this mess.
00:47:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:47:28
Zack
Um,
00:47:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There's no point in trying to block a point, in my opinion.
00:47:32
Zack
The rules are made where hunt blocks are very tough to get.
00:47:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:47:37
Zack
The odds of you running into the guy and getting a penalty is much higher than actually getting the block. It's a risk-reward thing. I don't think the reward's high enough for the risk, probably, but that's me.
00:47:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hard agree. Okay.
00:47:48
Mason
Thank you.
00:47:50
Zack
Okay. um My list is like too deep. ah I've got a lot of options here. Okay.
00:47:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:48:01
Zack
Okay, i've i've I've dealt with this one firsthand as well. I'm going pick it here. ah when you're When your team has really bad clock management at the end of a game, ah people aren't getting on the ball, people are staying in bounds and letting the clock run, and people don't know what's going on, no one's calling timeouts, everyone's trying to get stuff figured out when the clock is just running. and you're just It's something about just watching the game just like fall away from you slowly.
00:48:29
Zack
As you just watch the time tick down and you run out of timeouts and you're just, you're stuck and you know, you're going to lose it because you know, you're going to end up doing some garbage. Hail Mary passes. There's no chance of working. um Whenever.
00:48:41
Zack
And it's happened to me too many times. I've seen Joe Milton really jack up some clock management situations. I saw Nico do it this year as well. It's got, it's been me a couple of times. Bad clock management.
00:48:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:48:54
Zack
Kills you.
00:48:59
Mason
See, it's because he was affected by it. He's been hurt and burned by it.
00:49:01
Zack
Definitely. This is a personal list for sure.
00:49:04
Mason
Yeah. All right. Good pick. I'm going to go with one that we've all experienced, and it happens every it happens ah for almost every game, but specifically March Madness. And that's going when the game starts later than it's listed.
00:49:20
Zack
Yeah, I had that one.
00:49:21
Mason
ah This happens for literally everything. I think is kind of my theory is they want you to watch the pregame stuff to boost numbers. So the UT game, football, basketball, pro, like any sports thing, I feel like they never start the time that they say that they are. So then you're watching watching this, all these talking heads.
00:49:43
Mason
for five, 10, 20 minutes instead of the game actually happening. So understand when, because they share the same stadium for March Madness.
00:49:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:49:53
Mason
So, or arena, I guess, uh, when the game goes over cause of overtime or whatever, I, that's a free pass.
00:49:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:50:00
Mason
But when the game is over and you know, it's been over and they're ready to go, And it's another 20 minutes because they want you to watch Charles Barkley talk about the game that he's probably not even going to watch. He's going to watch his Auburn team.
00:50:12
Mason
don't know if you all saw that where they were asking him about his thoughts.
00:50:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:50:15
Mason
he was like, I'm going to be honest, Ernie. I did not. I was not watching that game. So anyways, that is one of my frustration, frustrating pet peeve sports moments.
00:50:26
Zack
Hmm.
00:50:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep, I like that.
00:50:29
Mason
I think I'm just an impatient person in general. So. Okay.
00:50:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right, I'm going to betting one here. um When you bet the under and the team that is losing, ah the game's out of reach. It's done.
00:50:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But for some reason, they keep fouling, even though they're down like 15.
00:50:52
Zack
Hmm. Hmm.
00:50:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then the game ah goes over because we're shooting free throws at a point, you know, pointless free throws.
00:51:01
Mason
They're down by like 15, right? And they're still fouling.
00:51:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, there's a minute left. They're not even a good three-point shooting team. like It's over. Go home. Let them just let him finish it. But no, you've got some walk-on guy who wants to make a name for himself.
00:51:11
Mason
good one.
00:51:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's going to foul and try and go get the ball back. And and then here we go.
00:51:18
Zack
trying to make a name for himself
00:51:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The over is hit.
00:51:24
Zack
true overs everywhere
00:51:27
Mason
That's a good one.
00:51:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And that's why you never bet the under, boys and girls.
00:51:30
Mason
That's why you don't bet the under.
00:51:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then, all right, this one, this is just an annoyance. But when the camera guy pans to a player's mom like 17 times during the game, that Duke player Knipple,
00:51:46
Mason
so
00:51:51
Zack
Yeah.
00:51:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They keep showing his mom like for every react. Like if he just makes a pass and like show his mom or Mark Sears last year, every time he was the free throw line, his mom mimics his, his free throw routine before he shoots. It's like, I don't care about these people's moms in the stands.
00:52:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm watching basketball. Stop showing these random people in the stands. See, I don't, sometimes I don't know it's the mom because the game's on mute. So I'm just like, why they keep showing this lady?
00:52:23
Zack
It's awesome. Agree.
00:52:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Or Cooper Flag's mom, like when he dunked on that kid and she was like, on his head. was I don't care about your show the player's reaction talking trash. I don't care the mom. She can't dunk.
00:52:37
Zack
That's true. you can't.
00:52:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
At least not as good as Cooper.
00:52:44
Zack
Maybe that's where you got it from.
00:52:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Also, I might become a big Cooper Flag guy. and i LeBron's going to retire soon.
00:52:48
Mason
Wow.
00:52:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I um i need my next goat and it might be Cooper Flag.
00:52:52
Zack
i know How's it looking him going to the Spurs?
00:52:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
don't know
00:52:58
Zack
I looked and I have a future for that and I was like why did I take that? I think Tits told me to take it at some point.
00:53:05
Mason
Anything can happen in the lottery.
00:53:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
they was right when Wimby is rwin wimby a was out for the year.
00:53:10
Mason
got hurt.
00:53:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then De'Aaron Fox, he's out for the year too. They've like lost every game for ah like a week or something.
00:53:11
Zack
Yeah, yeah.
00:53:17
Zack
I like that. Pretty good odds then. Get better.
00:53:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cooper Flagg and Wimby, ah I'm giving up.
00:53:22
Zack
It'll be fun.
00:53:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't care what i don't care if for the Thunder win this year. I'm giving up my points to go get the Spurs because that's a dynasty.
00:53:31
Zack
Is that the new Kobe Shack?
00:53:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That would be like the Kobe Shaq on steroids.
00:53:35
Zack
People are saying.
00:53:39
Zack
Wow, that's something right there. It'll
00:53:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That team would be unstoppable. With De'Aaron Fox?
00:53:45
Zack
be fun.
00:53:46
Mason
I didn't realize how bad Utah was.
00:53:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That would be fun.
00:53:51
Mason
Okay, here they are.
00:53:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:53:52
Mason
I'll just have spout them off real quick. I know we're on a time crunch.
00:53:54
Zack
Who?
00:53:55
Mason
Washington, Utah, they tie with sixteen and sixty
00:54:01
Zack
who
00:54:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:54:02
Mason
Then it's after that, Chicago.
00:54:04
Zack
like
00:54:05
Mason
I haven't looked back and forth at all. the Chicago is 19-56. And then it's the Pelicans at 21-34. And then the Spurs at 31 wins.
00:54:18
Zack
oh
00:54:18
Mason
ah Philadelphia and Brooklyn are also.
00:54:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
but this But the Spurs have the Hawks first round pick unprotected.
00:54:24
Mason
Oh, yeah, that's right. Where are the Hawks on this?
00:54:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
that's that's when we get That's when we get the lottery magic cooking.
00:54:31
Zack
it out
00:54:31
Mason
Hawks are 36 and 39, so...
00:54:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But I think the Hawks have like someone else's pick too.
00:54:34
Zack
I don't
00:54:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There's something weird. There's like a weird thing. That's why I like said let's do it. let's Let's take this bet. Because there's like a small chance. The Spurs get like somebody's pick.
00:54:45
Mason
There's a chance.
00:54:49
Mason
Okay, is it my turn?
00:54:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And the NBA is going to rig it.
00:54:51
Zack
don't think it's your turn. Did it do two already?
00:54:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I did a the camera guy showing the mom 17,000 times and then ah betting the under and rogue fouls.
00:54:55
Zack
ah so did it's Mason's turn.
00:54:58
Zack
Okay.
00:55:00
Mason
We started talking about Cooper flag for no reason at all.
00:55:01
Zack
like that yeah
00:55:03
Mason
It took us off the, yeah. Okay.
00:55:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
it was an His mom was an example of my pick.
00:55:08
Mason
Yeah, we're good. So ah mine, i think I could have waited till the last round because I don't think anybody's going to draft this one, but I'm going ahead and do it anyways.
00:55:18
Mason
I don't think it affects you all as much. We're going to do a little TMI here. ah um have to pee all the time.
00:55:24
Zack
hmm hmm
00:55:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's family program.
00:55:26
Mason
ah So mine is going to be having to pee during a game, specifically when you're at the game, because if you're like lower level and you're having to go all the way and then you're missing the game.
00:55:42
Mason
This is just like a problem all the time of just missing things that are important happening when you have to pee. So.
00:55:50
Mason
There you go. And in the trough situation, sometimes it's not a good situation.
00:55:51
Zack
What a pick.
00:55:55
Zack
You don't like the trough?
00:55:57
Mason
Don't like a trough.
00:55:57
Zack
Love the trough.
00:55:58
Mason
No.
00:56:00
Zack
it's It's communal. It brings people together.
00:56:00
Mason
Clip that.
00:56:03
Mason
Clip that.
00:56:07
Mason
Alright, put that on the TikTok.
00:56:09
Zack
That's fine. That was a good take. People agree with me. real Real ball fans love the troughs.
00:56:17
Zack
Okay. I got my last two picks.
00:56:22
Mason
Okay.
00:56:22
Zack
Got some good ones. um to To the basketball.
00:56:29
Zack
When, is my first basketball pick. When it's a close game and guy on your team misses two free throws in a row. You miss them both.
00:56:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:56:41
Zack
There's nothing more to moralize. You have a chance to tie the game or whatever by hitting both and then you just miss them. You break both of them.
00:56:47
Mason
Mm.
00:56:48
Zack
it's when when you start talking like, how, how are you playing at this level and missing free throws? Um, it just feels like the easiest thing. Uh, so that is my fourth pick.
00:57:00
Zack
And last, this is a little bit more of a personal one here. um I have a thing where my team's playing bad. I really, the announcers, everything they say just gets on my nerves. Like every single thing they say.
00:57:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:57:12
Zack
And my last pick is when there is a terrible foul or a terrible foul call and the announcers agree with it on there.
00:57:18
Mason
Thank
00:57:22
Zack
Like there's a black, it just is awful. And he asked like, yep, I've got to agree with that one. It looks, looked, looked like a foul. And I'm like, you guys are morons. You're just going to say whatever you, you agree with whatever they do. um I feel the same thing, but this is another take. Gene's territory.
00:57:37
Zack
He's a panderer to whatever he's, he's paid to, to say, yep, I think that ref was right. You know, I agree with what they said every single time. I think,
00:57:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Even if they reverse the call 10 seconds later, he's like, I don't know. I still think it was a good call on the floor.
00:57:51
Zack
I think there should be, here's what I think. If you want an honest opinion from Gene Steratore, you put him in a room with the game feed and he doesn't know what the announcers are saying.
00:58:03
Zack
And if there's a questionable call, you bring him up and you say, what is your what is your take on this?
00:58:07
Mason
Thank you.
00:58:08
Zack
So he can't just pander to the refs on the court. He can't be nice. He has to say what he actually thinks. And we can put these refs on blast.
00:58:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's never even a ref of basketball. What's he doing? Why do we care about his opinion? He's a football guy.
00:58:24
Zack
ah yeah
00:58:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He pandered his way into college basketball, and now got to listen to him 10,000 times.
00:58:29
Zack
He's a big, yeah, he's a man of the people, as the refs, but it makes us an enemy of everybody else. ah That drives me crazy whenever he shows up and he starts, yeah, I think this is it. And then, of course, he always agrees with the ref. and and if So that's that's one.
00:58:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And I never agree with the ref.
00:58:46
Zack
um i have a second a secondary take to this.
00:58:48
Mason
Bye.
00:58:50
Zack
Nothing drives me crazier than whenever there is a a horrible foul call on either direction. And they they refuse to show a replay of it because they know how bad it was.
00:59:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:59:03
Zack
I'll watch it happen and I will lose my mind. And I was like, show the play again. I cannot believe they called that. And then they will never show it. Because if they know it's really bad call, they will never show you the replay.
00:59:14
Zack
Because they don't want to just look make the refs look bad. And then I'll get on Twitter and every single other person agrees. They're like, how did they not call? And then they were just like, just completely decided to ignore it. That's my other.
00:59:26
Zack
So those two kind of go together, but.
00:59:28
Mason
He's getting two for one special over here.
00:59:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:59:30
Mason
What the, buy one, get one free.
00:59:30
Zack
those don't have The second part doesn't have to be part of my actual draft, but that was just an add on.
00:59:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
that's But that those go handin hand in hand.
00:59:39
Zack
Yeah, they're similar. Protecting the refs. Don't protect the refs.
00:59:43
Mason
There you go.
00:59:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, they signed up for this willingly.
00:59:44
Mason
Don't protect them.
00:59:47
Mason
They get paid for it. Okay.
00:59:51
Zack
Got me.
00:59:51
Mason
My last pick. I'm going to go with, so Titans are on the clock currently. ah It's draft season, baby. And um I'm going to go with your team drafting a guy you've never heard of.
01:00:05
Mason
ah This might happen for a lot of football fans out there where it's just like some no-name offensive lineman or whatever.
01:00:10
Zack
not mean
01:00:13
Mason
Me and Tinsley, we do our research. Uh, nothing's worse than, especially when the guys announcing or like, I had this person going in the third or fourth round and it's just like, just a guy you never heard of. Don't really know about, are you going to even get excited about it?
01:00:30
Mason
So that's just maybe for me specifically, i don't think a whole lot of people probably agree because they don't really care about the draft as much as I do or me and tens But this is the time where you start doing your research and then you're like, I don't even know who this guy is and I'm not excited and thanks a lot type of deal.
01:00:47
Mason
So.
01:00:47
Zack
But I love the videos of guys whenever someone turns out to be really good and everyone's like booing them at the draft. I think Lucas was like that. When Lucas got drafted, everyone booed.
01:00:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:00:57
Zack
And then that's like the funniest receipt of all time is watching the whole crowd boo when they draft Lucas Doncic.
01:00:57
Mason
Yeah.
01:01:03
Zack
It's hilarious.
01:01:03
Mason
Man, I'm trying to think. Was Josh Allen... It was like a quarterback.
01:01:08
Zack
I feel like Patrick Mahomes got booed pretty bad.
01:01:08
Mason
Somebody did that.
01:01:11
Mason
Because i had Alex Smith.
01:01:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
People were talking about how it was like a head scratcher for the Chiefs to trade up for him.
01:01:13
Mason
i don't remember.
01:01:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're like, I didn't think he would be, you know, he's probably a second round pick, has to sit for a few years. That's Mel Kuyper eating sweet potato pie with no whipped cream.
01:01:28
Mason
Well, and then like Eli Manning, he was mad that he got drafted by the Chargers. But then he that was I don't know how many people do that.
01:01:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:01:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They said he what he wasn't going to play for them.
01:01:37
Mason
There's some funny moments with that.
01:01:40
Mason
Yeah.
01:01:42
Zack
That's an annoying one.
01:01:42
Mason
So they were probably booing on purpose because they didn't want him with a sour attitude.
01:01:45
Zack
That's like number 12 on my list of annoying things.
01:01:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah You get fired.
01:01:49
Zack
When players refuse to go play somewhere.
01:01:51
Mason
What if I did that? What if I went into my job right now and said, I'm not working here? They would fire me.
01:01:56
Zack
It happens all the time.
01:01:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You get fired. That's what would happen.
01:01:59
Zack
Every day.
01:02:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You get fired, you get replaced.
01:02:01
Mason
must be it Must be nice for NFL players.
01:02:01
Zack
Okay.
01:02:03
Mason
And they're like, okay, well, we'll just send you some other nice town where you get paid millions of dollars.
01:02:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Really, really good ones don't. they Like Miles Garrett said, he wasn't going to play for the Cleveland Browns. What happened?
01:02:16
Zack
bargaining chip.
01:02:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's yeah.
01:02:18
Mason
Flipped into some cash.
01:02:18
Zack
Make sure everybody else wants you.
01:02:19
Mason
Okay.
01:02:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If it's somebody really bad saying that, it's like, okay, bye.
01:02:25
Mason
Good point. Okay.
01:02:25
Zack
Great.
01:02:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right. My last one, this isn't on my list. I just thought of it. um
01:02:33
Zack
no
01:02:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Scoreboard score bor and box score watchers. um When people will like try and say bad things about your team and how they played, it's like you didn't watch any of it. You don't know what happened.
01:02:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Maybe your quarterback throws a really bad interception and everybody's like, oh, what happened?
01:02:49
Zack
and
01:02:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He threw an interception. You suck. It's like, well, you didn't see the receiver like play volleyball with it and go boing like this.

Blake Bortles' Unfortunate Interception

01:03:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
A lot of Blake Bortles' interceptions were like that, and it really hurt my feelings.
01:03:03
Zack
there's been a lot of writing for his quarterbacks over the years
01:03:03
Mason
I feel like I'm being targeted.
01:03:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Everyone would like โ€“
01:03:07
Mason
ah feel like I'm being targeted right now.
01:03:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I've received a lot of โ€“
01:03:09
Mason
I'm sorry about sitting and watching three hours of the Jags play football. I just look at the scoreboard.
01:03:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, then then don't text me. then don't text me This is mostly Kyle. But don't text and, like, take shots. You don't know what happened. I literally saw Blake Bortles throw a ball into the dirt one time, and then an offensive lineman fell at the same time, and the ball hit him and bounced up for a pick six.
01:03:30
Mason
Tinsley, you make comments about the Titans and you're not watching a Titans game unless it's the Jags versus the Titans.
01:03:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's like,
01:03:35
Mason
So.
01:03:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
what? But during the games, I don't.
01:03:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I see. I respond to what's going on on Twitter. This is you. You people i have a bad narrative of who I am
01:03:46
Mason
Oh, not the you people.
01:03:47
Zack
What do you mean by
01:03:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You people, you Titans people. All I do is respond to what's going on on Twitter. and Everybody's like, you're a hater. You seek out.
01:03:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, it's just on Twitter.
01:03:57
Zack
you people?
01:04:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I can't help the algorithm sees that I live in Tennessee.

Football Game Frustrations

01:04:03
Zack
and No, your algorithm knows you love to see Titan hate tweets, so it gives you more of them.
01:04:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hate tweets? and' I have no time to hate the Titans.
01:04:11
Zack
Okay. Okay, I've got some honorable mentions.
01:04:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
On Twitter.
01:04:16
Zack
Honorable mentions, everybody. um When your wide receiver drops a wide open pass, like in the middle of the field by themselves and they just drop it, that's one of the most.
01:04:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh my gosh.
01:04:23
Mason
oh
01:04:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, glad I don't have Calvin Ridley to deal with that a anymore because he does that a lot.
01:04:31
Zack
Yeah. um when you go When your team goes offsides on third or fourth and short, that's the same as the referee and the kicker.
01:04:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
throw up in my mouth.
01:04:39
Mason
Why didn't we draft that one? That's a good one.
01:04:41
Zack
Well, I almost picked that one.
01:04:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's a good one.
01:04:41
Mason
Yeah.
01:04:43
Zack
That's a good one, though. Yeah. ah Getting a bad turnover in the red zone. That's just annoying.
01:04:50
Zack
um Too many commercials?
01:04:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Running it.
01:04:52
Zack
Three straight commercials in a row.
01:04:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. And the same commercials. Like, can we get some variety?
01:04:58
Zack
It's when it's like a touchdown touchdown commercial, kickoff commercial, and then a turnover a quick turnover, another commercial.
01:04:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
feel like I see the same five commercials.
01:05:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
01:05:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:05:08
Zack
There can be three within like a three or four play span. And that's like, what do we do? We can't do this.
01:05:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's tough.
01:05:13
Zack
um When your team calls a run play on third and long or your team punts on fourth and short.
01:05:17
Mason
um
01:05:20
Zack
Both frustrating.
01:05:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Or when they do the most obvious run play on fourth and short, it's like, that was on my that was on my list.
01:05:26
Zack
Yep.
01:05:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's what I probably should have just taken of my last one, was doing the most obvious play on the most obvious downs.
01:05:34
Zack
Yeah. Third and short round the middle.
01:05:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's like going for two, and it's like,
01:05:37
Zack
Yep.
01:05:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, it's like when you see it coming a mile away, like obviously NFL defenses are also going to see it a mile away, you stupid idiots.
01:05:40
Mason
um
01:05:46
Mason
When the revs take 10 years to look at a review.
01:05:49
Zack
Yeah, I had that. Too many video reviews.
01:05:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
01:05:52
Zack
There's like three or four right in a row. It's like, oh, this sucks.
01:05:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, basketball is really bad about that because they have like all the challenges and stuff.
01:05:56
Zack
um It's gotten much worse. And they can they can pretty much challenge anything within like the last two minutes, I think. like They review everything.
01:06:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah, they got to fix that.

Complaints About Game Interruptions

01:06:06
Zack
When there's a blatant flop and it's called a foul against your team, when you foul a three-point shooter and you have to shoot three free throws, that's the worst.
01:06:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
01:06:18
Zack
um Whenever you
01:06:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Jump balls never being called correctly. It's like when they call it a foul and it's like, no, that was a jump ball.
01:06:21
Zack
Yes.
01:06:22
Mason
you.
01:06:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Obviously.
01:06:26
Zack
I don't know. ah Yeah, they don't know the difference either. I don't know. It's just whatever they're feeling.
01:06:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
feel like they just, they call it jump ball at the end of games for it's like a tight game. They're like okay, we'll jump ball. But if it's like in the middle of a game, they're like, no, it's a foul. Sorry.
01:06:38
Zack
Yeah, they'll will sometimes let players like completely wrap their arms around the other guy to to grab the ball and they'll call a jump. That's not a jump ball. Whenever your quarterback throws short or the first down line,
01:06:52
Zack
or all your wide receivers run to the route short of the first down line. Yeah.
01:06:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Shout out Dougie P. No one loved more than running curl routes on third and 10. Stop it at the five yard line. They'll just make the five yards themselves.
01:07:09
Zack
yeah They'll figure it out probably. Just get it in your hands, of your playmakers, you know,
01:07:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that's it's good game planning. You need 10 yards.
01:07:15
Mason
Thank you.
01:07:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We're going to run We're going to route you for five.
01:07:17
Zack
yeah
01:07:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Go from there.
01:07:20
Zack
um From an opposing perspective, watching your team just get destroyed by just constant screen passes is also because you just feel helpless.
01:07:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh my gosh. Getting screened to death.
01:07:32
Zack
green Screen, screen, screen, and they're just getting like six yards, seven yards, ten yards, and then they just go down the field and don't actually throw a real play the whole time.
01:07:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:07:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Same thing with like in the middle of the field, like when the tight end just is gashing you for 14 yards a pop. It's like, why is no one there?
01:07:46
Zack
Yep.
01:07:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Why is there not a middle linebacker in the middle of the field?
01:07:48
Zack
There's nothing your linebackers can do Yeah.

TV vs Radio Broadcast Preferences

01:07:54
Mason
I was going say for all of us, I feel like when watching games, I'm surprised that there was anything where showing fans of the opposing team celebrating when your team loses. Because I feel like I've always seen all of you say, yeah it's like, shut up.
01:08:04
Zack
I like that. I like to feel it. The pain.
01:08:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:08:10
Mason
Like you're screaming at the TV. You need a haircut. Like you're like dissing the fan. That's like celebrating.
01:08:14
Zack
Yeah, going show it.
01:08:15
Mason
Yeah. You look like a hobo, like things like that. feel like I've heard that.
01:08:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
with when the opposing quarterback feels like they have 10 years in the pocket. Like, what is your pass rush doing?
01:08:25
Zack
yeah
01:08:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like, the offensive linemen have to get tired. Why can't you get past them? He's been standing there forever.
01:08:32
Zack
yeah this the same way is whenever you feel like that's happening but there's like three different holds happening at at once and they're just never going to call it they like they just just don't care enough to call the holds but you're watching it happen that's frustrating
01:08:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:08:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:08:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's very frustrating.
01:08:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I can't keep getting away with this.
01:08:50
Mason
Alright. I think we listed off plenty.
01:08:55
Zack
um When your team can't win the big one, your team can't win the big one that's that's one of mine.
01:08:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Kirk Herbstreet.
01:08:56
Mason
Might have a couple
01:09:00
Mason
Or get to the final four.
01:09:01
Zack
Yeah.
01:09:08
Zack
Yeah. Pretty good.
01:09:13
Zack
You feel good about that?
01:09:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Pretty great.
01:09:13
Zack
Anybody else have anything else?
01:09:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No.
01:09:17
Mason
That's it. It's a pod.
01:09:19
Zack
That's a pod. Okay.
01:09:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Doinked field goals. Those are pretty annoying.
01:09:22
Mason
Oh, yeah.
01:09:23
Zack
Yeah, missed extra points. I was going to say that. Missed extra points is one of most annoying things that can happen.
01:09:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:09:30
Zack
Mostly announcers. Announcers are one of the more frustrating parts of my game. a lot of tenness A lot of Tennessee fans back in the day would, even if you were if you're at home, they would mute the TV and put the radio on.
01:09:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, yeah.
01:09:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Smart.
01:09:43
Zack
Because ah radio calls, guys, were just much better than... They would much better listen to them. Mike Keith is back. It might happen again. The air might come back.

Announcers' Voices and Styles

01:09:54
Zack
You see people go to the football games and have the radios, like have headphones and the radio on and listen to the radio.
01:09:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
is Is he done talking about Mike Keith?
01:10:02
Zack
Oh, this guy.
01:10:03
Mason
Tinsley just took his headphones off.
01:10:05
Zack
Who's the Jaguars?
01:10:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Are you done talking about Mike Keith?
01:10:07
Zack
You don't like Mike Keith?
01:10:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, he's annoying as it can be.
01:10:09
Zack
What's Mike Keith ever done to you? When one have you had a Tennessee radio broadcast?
01:10:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's annoying.
01:10:14
Zack
ah titans To be annoyed by Mike Keith, you had to have actively listened to a Titans radio broadcast.
01:10:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's the Titans voice in the stadium.
01:10:24
Zack
he annoys you that much just in the stadium announcing things?
01:10:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes, yes. his yes his ah His voice is over dramatically annoying.
01:10:32
Zack
Hmm.
01:10:33
Mason
He's just talking about the touchdown Titans. I can't, I'm not even going to try to attempt it.
01:10:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, it's dumb.
01:10:37
Zack
I like Mike Heath. It's going to be good.
01:10:39
Mason
I also like my Keith.
01:10:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i'm glad he's I'm glad I don't have to listen to him when I go to the Titan Stadium anymore.
01:10:41
Mason
have a signature.
01:10:45
Zack
Who's the Jaguars guy?
01:10:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah His name's Frank Frangie.
01:10:50
Zack
Oh, tough.
01:10:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We don't like him either.
01:10:53
Mason
No.
01:10:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We're about to lose J.P. Shadrick. He's about to become what Mike Keith was for the Titans because our guy won't retire, even though he needed to retire like five years ago, and we should promote J.P. Shadrick.
01:11:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i don't really like him that much either, but i probably like him more than the current guy.
01:11:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't listen to the Titans or the Jaguars radio broadcast team either. I don't like them.

Episode Wrap-Up and Future Plans

01:11:19
Zack
Wow. Maybe he's not a big radio guy.
01:11:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's just Frankie, every play, just going, how good is that? How good is that? it Just shut up, Frank.
01:11:27
Zack
I wish I knew that was a good impression.
01:11:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Let the play live.
01:11:30
Mason
Sounds way cooler than touchdown Titans.
01:11:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It was. it It was. It was a good impression. I got his voice pretty good.
01:11:37
Zack
oh That's funny. Yeah. I like those guys. they're They're usually fun. Mikey's good. He's going great.
01:11:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Sure. Get to listen to them yell about the Vols now. I have to listen to that on mute.
01:11:56
Zack
When do you listen to it, Tins?
01:11:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like video, like it'll, it'll be like hype videos, like a Titans hype video would be like the call from Mike Keith.
01:11:58
Zack
You just said you
01:12:08
Zack
to be electric.
01:12:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So now it's going Vols one. So now I can't watch any Vols hype videos.
01:12:13
Zack
It's true. It's starting them off. It's okay. Titan Tins hit the hater. Hater Tins can talk about Mikey Taliwaz.
01:12:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
but I don't like Mike Keith.
01:12:26
Zack
That's fine. That's fair. That's fair. um Okay. We're good?
01:12:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
think we're great.
01:12:33
Zack
Alright. It's a good ending.
01:12:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Touchdown Titans.
01:12:41
Zack
False. Give him six. He's going to do a lot of John Ward's old calls? Probably. Okay.
01:12:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Probably. Yeah.
01:12:47
Zack
um
01:12:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's a, he's a merchant of plagiarism.
01:12:49
Zack
John Ward Merchant. What can we do?
01:12:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. He's a plagiarizing merchant.
01:12:54
Zack
All right. Well, we're going to wrap up there. um i don't know if much of the world wants to listen to Mike Keith talk. so Okay.
01:13:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm going to DM Mike Keith and try and get him on here and face me.
01:13:02
Mason
Thank you.
01:13:04
Zack
That would be awesome. um We hope you had a great time here with this episode. We will be back to recap the Final Four and the National Championship game.
01:13:15
Zack
So ah be here with us for that. A lot going on right now until Monday night. Then there's not very much going on. truly for a while in our realm of the world. So maybe we'll get into some baseball, some hockey talk.
01:13:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Ooh, hockey talk.
01:13:34
Zack
Maybe not.
01:13:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Dallas Stars.
01:13:35
Mason
masters
01:13:35
Zack
Tends
01:13:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I need the Dallas Stars.
01:13:38
Zack
just fall in Dallas stars. So we'll do some stars talk.
01:13:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's in the stars for me.
01:13:46
Zack
Okay. We will catch you next time and see you later.