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26- Can We Interest You In...A 2025 Recap?
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It's the end of 2025! Charlotte and Patti recap the past year of the podcast (a retrospective, if you will). We talk about what we learned about ourselves one year into starting a podcast as friends and podcasting amateurs.
We each give our top picks for the following categories:
Most memorable episode
Most surprising episode
Interest that challenged us the most
Interest we adopted into our own lives
Episode we’ve gotten the most feedback on
Along the way, we discuss podcast therapy, Woke Santa, how this podcast is changing lives (mostly ours). What are we looking forward to for 2026? What big plans do we have for the podcast?
Plus, Charlotte updates us on the Turkey Trek and eggnog chugging, and Patti updates us on her children’s volleyball coaching career.
We'd love to hear your answers to the above questions and whether you've started any of these interests. We want to hear about it!
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Transcript
Introduction and Call for Listener Participation
00:00:00
Speaker
You know that thing you love that your friends and family don't want to hear about anymore? Tell it to us, Patty and Charlotte. We want to learn all about your weird and wild obsessions or your perfectly normal hobbies that you've taken just a little too far.
00:00:15
Speaker
We want to dabble in your curious interests. Can we interest you in today's episode?
First Anniversary Reflections
00:00:34
Speaker
Hi, Charlotte. Hi, Patti. Happy almost end of the year. Happy almost end of the year to you, too. And ah happy like year anniversary of doing this podcast. Can you believe it? I'm kind of shocked.
00:00:53
Speaker
Me, too. i think it was the beginning of December last yeah year, right? It was literally December. And right now it's middle of December 2025. twenty twenty five I know.
00:01:06
Speaker
and it felt like daunting to think about doing that many episodes when we were first talking about it. And it flew by. Yeah, it really did. And it was fun.
00:01:19
Speaker
yes Yeah, very fun. and We're going to recap episode, sort of like a year end 2025, but also a year the review Yeah, look back, see how things went, some of our highs and lessons learned, and yeah, a retrospective, if you will.
00:01:43
Speaker
Yeah. So let's start with like what we learned about ourselves this year. let's v you know i like i like how we've gotten kind of personal on the podcast and talk about our own stuff.
00:02:00
Speaker
so Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Personal Growth and Podcast Journey
00:02:02
Speaker
I definitely learned just even in the um getting guests part of things, just how uncomfortable I am talking about having a podcast and how few people I meet.
00:02:18
Speaker
talk to in general because I'm like, oh my gosh, Charlotte has yet another guest. and you're like, well, I just talk to people about it. I'll tell anybody. And like, i'm like, oh right. I have to be in front of people and then also be willing to to talk about it. that That despite the fact that I love podcasts, I feel kind of like oh, I'm going to tell you I have a podcast and you'll be thinking, doesn't everybody?
00:02:47
Speaker
i think it feels like maybe everybody does, but then if you like actually talk to the people around you, it's like, okay, per person, per capita, per... number of people we know. not that many people have podcasts. Yeah. Is that one of our top um exports in the United States of America yet? How about you? What did you learn about yourself?
00:03:14
Speaker
I learned a couple things, or it maybe I just reinforced a couple things for me. One is i feel like I somehow can make anything political. like I don't know how, but anything we're talking about, I would find myself somehow tying it into something political.
00:03:36
Speaker
like a systemic issue or or like. Yeah. Looking at it through that lens. Yeah. Which I i guess I should know. like i'm I'm a social worker. So, duh. And another thing is, it's like I know that I get easily overwhelmed, but I realized I, there are multiple times in episodes where i was like, oh, that's The sheer amount of this stuff is overwhelming me, like anime. Like, what if I get in and I i can't get out and I become obsessed?
00:04:08
Speaker
Or celebrity gossip. There's so much. And it's a weird, weird thing that it just... is very much like, I don't know, it's just a thing I have.
00:04:19
Speaker
so That you're so interested, but then also kind of like nervous about the level of interest you might get into too many things. Which I guess is why, part of why I wanted to, you know, do this podcast. i mean We both, I think, have interests in just like people's enthusiasm and excitement for stuff without necessarily wanting to get all into it ourselves, like fully.
00:04:48
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. Like I was just thinking the other day, because I was like, oh, maybe I'll start going to trivia at this bar or like start going. Yeah. Maybe I will go to a trivia day at this bar. Once. and Yeah, once. And I was like, oh, I mean, I think I'd be a pretty good teammate. I know a lot of things. And I was like, but I just know a little about a lot of things, which could be great in trivia because, you know, you never know what it's going to be. But I feel like I'm never one of those people who, like, knows everything about anything.
00:05:21
Speaker
Yeah, my my retention is not good. So I know what you mean. It's like I may have learned it at one time, but it was cold.
00:05:32
Speaker
to make room for more information. It was useless. Like my 16-year-old nephew was just telling me last night that he has to learn the first 27 amendments to the Constitution. so he was like, which one is 21? And I was like, oh, oh, no. i i don't know that.
00:05:53
Speaker
i know the first like one to two amendments. And a couple of the fun ones, like 13, 19.
00:06:04
Speaker
Yes. In terms of learning about ourselves too. I mean,
Self-Criticism and Therapeutic Insights
00:06:12
Speaker
so much. I think we've talked about some of this, but like what it's what it's like to to hear yourself talk.
00:06:17
Speaker
Yes. yeah The number of times I say, so we all have our filler words and I've realized in editing the podcast just what my filler word is. And I'm not going to say it because then everyone will be like hearing it and it'll be really annoying.
00:06:36
Speaker
But it is so annoying. Yes. Also just like sometimes cringy to hear the dumb things I say or like my laugh or whatever it is. But then also just how delightful I find the two of us.
00:06:52
Speaker
know. I do feel like I've learned about a lot about you and it's been very fun and delightful. And another thing, though, that I really was surprised at is sometimes I would say something or like, you know, in one of the conversations, I would feel like cringy or like, oh, how did that come off? And then when I've been editing, you know, we've we've split that over time. So we've each done that.
00:07:23
Speaker
I would hear it back and be like, oh, that sounds fine. So it was like an opportunity to check my own assumptions. That's actually a great thing because, yeah, how many times do I leave a party being like, I can't believe I said that. And it's like, oh, okay, no, it wasn't that bad. If I could really hear it back again. It's been really great. Yeah.
00:07:46
Speaker
Very helpful therapy, podcast therapy. Well, and speaking of, like, that was definitely one of the things that I knew about myself but has been brought to the forefront is just how unwilling I am to go inside right now, you know, like to just look inside and kind of spend too much time being deep. And just, I mean, ah with my own self, like I'll go deep on topics, but um not wanting to kind of, yeah, look internal, realizing just how many times that came up was really interesting for me.
00:08:23
Speaker
And while I'm still not totally ready to like address it, It has been something that's been super helpful to kind of just spend time with thinking about like, well, what's going on there and why, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Recognizing that and being like, okay, maybe it's like a pre-contemplation or it's a contemplation kind of stage where it's like, okay, I'm thinking about it.
00:08:52
Speaker
Dipping my toe in the water. Yeah. Yeah. got to at least at first admit that you have a problem before addressing the problem yeah whereas yeah getting to learn about you more and just how much you love being able to go in and and do the thinking and and playing in that space has been really inspiring and really fun i mean I'm not surprised that that's how you are at all
00:09:24
Speaker
but it's It's been really fun to see, to get to know that. Thank you. I feel like it's it's been more, I've been doing that more since I started my private therapy practice in particular, maybe because you kind of have to be aware of your own stuff in order to help people with theirs.
00:09:49
Speaker
So that's yeah that's been good. I mean, there's still plenty of stuff. But at least i i mostly know about it. i think I'm sure there's other stuff that I'm suppressing, but it'll come up at some point.
00:10:04
Speaker
I like that right then you looked like like a little bird flying, like trying to fly. have to show the video.
00:10:13
Speaker
That's Charlotte. Flap of the wings. um Yeah, you're either like flying or you're like patting the heads of like the stuff. You're like, I know stuff. You're there. Okay. Hi. Okay. Hi. Hi. I think in my mind I was like, get away stuff. Get away. I don't have time for you now. Later. Later. I know you're there. I've only got these things on my plate. I'm dealing with
Favorite Episodes and Memorable Guests
00:10:35
Speaker
them now.
00:10:35
Speaker
and What about, okay, we have a few categories of things that we are going to talk about. And we're going to start with, like, what's what's our most memorable episode or episodes?
00:10:52
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you know And we'll each give our answers. so Yeah. What about for you, Patty? Yeah. And that's so hard because it's like, especially when obviously like most memorable tends to be what just happened. And so like celebrity gossip was very memorable for me because it was recent. It was with one of my like favorite people like,
00:11:17
Speaker
I love that topic. Like I just love celebrity gossip. I love gossip in general and just like the drama of things that are happening. I want to know the stories. I want to know what's going on and whether that's politics or local news or celebrities.
00:11:38
Speaker
i love it. I love it all. I do So that was definitely one of mine. Yeah, that's it that was a great one. um Yeah, I love gossip for sure.
00:11:50
Speaker
and I was at um Adam's holiday party the other night and there was ah there were a couple of people who you know he's friends with who were gossiping about somebody that like what didn't even work at the company. It was like somebody else. And I was like, gossip, I got to hear it. Like, I don't know any of the people you're talking about.
00:12:13
Speaker
got to know. so Yes. But for memorable episodes, and just want to give a warning that I chose at least two episodes for all of these because that's how I am. So Murder, She Wrote and Woodturning because i think i think it's because with the follow-ups, I got to do the thing with the person who we interviewed. Yes.
00:12:39
Speaker
So that was so fun. So for woodturning, Mariel had me over and you via video to watch her Like, basically, we made a bowl together, which was amazing.
00:12:53
Speaker
Amazing. And then Murder, She Wrote, ah Molly came over and we did the drinking game while watching the show. And it was so fun and cozy and lovely.
00:13:09
Speaker
Those are some of my memorable ones, most memorable. But I agree, it's hard because I really loved every single one of them. I know. Well, and that's the thing. Like, ah yeah, the woodturning was so cool. And it was so great to have Mariel because like we were still getting a little comfortable at that point of like, what even is this and how do we have a person on? And so it was really great. I mean, she's such a cool person and so interesting.
00:13:38
Speaker
And it was really cool to like just have time to sit and talk with her during that first one where it's like, tell us about this very physical and like intricate process that you then have to explain to people who are just listening.
00:13:55
Speaker
and she did an amazing job of that. And she was so interesting, but also interested. So she like asked us questions about like, how did you guys come up with this idea for a podcast? And like, how do you guys know each other? And you know, all of these things that it just felt like a really cool introductory,
00:14:18
Speaker
early guest to the podcast that, and not to mention, she also then like helped us out so much in like designing the logo and was just so supportive. Yeah. I feel like she's another member of the podcast, more than a guest. Yeah. Yeah. Part of the family.
00:14:39
Speaker
i also really, I mean, memorable was having um your uncle Jim on was so Great. Partially because it gave me such an insight to you and this relationship. Like I'd always heard about like your uncles because when we lived in Chicago together, you had at least one cousin that was in the area at the time, right? or Yeah, Uncle Jim's son.
00:15:01
Speaker
Yeah. And so like I would hear about these cousins or like you guys would be on like see each other on trips and things like that. And I was like, what is interesting, like close relationship that she has. Like you would be with them for holidays sometimes, even like when your parents weren't there. And it just is so different from the relationship I have with my aunts and uncles. And so that was really, really cool to like learn about this daily haiku project that you guys did together. and Just to hear about someone who took this pebble of an interest, like, huh, I was reading about history and came across this small fact of a story and that it's become such a huge part of his life now. And then being able to read his book that he also illustrated, it was so cool. It was so cool to hear those stories that were all about the long fall, but then also thinking through, as he pointed out, that was sometimes just the beginning.
00:16:09
Speaker
And it wasn't always, oh, and now it's smooth sailing. Like you've survived and yay. It's like that was step one of survival. Now, oh shit, you know.
00:16:21
Speaker
Yeah, i'm kind of amazing. And the fact that he's done so many almost like spinoffs um of his original idea, which I think was the like the database and then now all these other things is is pretty amazing. Yeah.
00:16:36
Speaker
What was at least two? Because I know you have two for every. What were some of the most surprising episodes or topics or just something that surprised you about this whole process?
00:16:52
Speaker
Oh, this is a good question. i think that there are honestly a lot were surprising to me. want to say celebrity gossip was a surprise to me because i i hadn't thought about it in a while, but I used to really just love it. So it was really nice to remember that.
00:17:14
Speaker
But also i was surprised at how fascinated By the Blake Lively, um Justin Baldoni stuff. Just love it.
00:17:27
Speaker
So there's that one. And i want to say also the anime manga episode. i I guess I didn't expect to be as interested as i was before.
00:17:41
Speaker
in it And to know that there's so so many different types, like so many um big fans and like all the different avenues for getting access to it and watching or reading it.
00:17:57
Speaker
Yeah. It's very interesting. Yeah, that one continues to surprise me because it's definitely something that i was not part of my world at all. And that now with the...
00:18:11
Speaker
slight awareness that I have of it, it has become so, I'm so much more aware of it in my surroundings. Like, you know, the other day I was at a coffee shop and I was like, oh, I know that character is from, you know, like I, and it's someone's t-shirt that they were wearing or different references that I now get or And again, it's humongous, the the whole breadth of that type of art.
00:18:40
Speaker
But yeah, that was one that surprised me as well, that I was as interested in it as I was. i was also surprised with protest, partially because I was kind of like, how is this an interest?
Activism and Personal Style
00:18:57
Speaker
you know like Thinking of it in that in that way felt really new to me and I wasn't sure what that meant even as we were in the conversation. Then by the end of it, I was like, oh, yes. And it became something that was very part of my life this year just in you the political climate and and what ah how i chose to
00:19:24
Speaker
show up in different ways that it was like it just felt very timely even though obviously it's like it's always timely and it's not like we're we're doing this for the first time but but yeah but we're realizing maybe for the first time how vital it is for so many reasons like before it was important for certain causes and now it's like it feels like people's survival can depend on it
00:19:56
Speaker
Yeah, and it felt so important to also have kind of some of the language and history behind it to be able to respond to people who said, do protests really work? What do they do? And it was like, hmm, you know. yeah And being reminded, too, that there are many ways that we can do that. It doesn't have to be showing up to a ah protest with a large group of people, but that really we can make so many choices on a daily basis that can be a form of protest.
00:20:26
Speaker
Yeah, totally true. And i am today wearing the new sweatshirt that I got, which is a holiday sweatshirt. And it says Slay, S-L-E-I-G-H, the patriarchy.
00:20:39
Speaker
Oh, that is good. See, that's so funny because I just saw the reindeer and I was like, so cute. um I saw the reindeer and I was like, oh, that's cute. She's festive. But little did I know it's twofold.
00:20:53
Speaker
Yeah. It's a general it's protesting the patriarchy, you know, like maybe could be not that's like more specific, but I think we all we all can agree.
00:21:07
Speaker
So then who is driving the sleigh? I mean, maybe it's like a woke Santa. Okay. I don't know. It's... Well, and he should have to work on the holidays, right? The men should have to work on the holidays. Exactly. Exactly. Mrs. Claus is putting her feet up.
00:21:25
Speaker
There's just on the other side of our so our block, one of the houses that we go past on our morning walks with the dog, there's this like quaint yard signs that's like a flag basically.
00:21:40
Speaker
And it's like, my favorite season is, and then it's like the fall of pat of the patriarchy. Yes. I also, yeah, I got um a little flag that's like for to put outside that's like holiday lights and human rights, you know. I love it.
00:22:01
Speaker
Yeah. Well, our next ah question is, what was or were the most challenging interests for you?
00:22:13
Speaker
no for me, it was definitely erotica. Just because like I loved the conversation with Marissa and I man she's so cool and like talented and lovely and I was like i don't feel comfortable with this I don't know how to talk about this I don't oh my god I don't want to do this homework please and nobody ever listened to it
00:22:50
Speaker
and you did it anyway so
00:22:54
Speaker
Well, erotica is also one of mine. Any of the ones where I i started like dreaming about it or there was something going on in my mind underneath.
00:23:08
Speaker
And I agree. I mean, I loved that conversation with Marissa. And I i loved the um assignment, too. I thought it was really fun and funny, which is a great way you know to think of erotica. But it definitely was. There was a buildup of anxiety. and trying to do it yeah it pushed us which was really good hu so that one and then for me also the internal family systems one yes charlotte i was gonna say i bet it's the same for both of us
00:23:48
Speaker
Yeah, with that one i I mean, it was also like really enlightening and so interesting because I know Erin like just is so into it and so good at it. And so to hear about it from her was was fascinating. yeah And to have her like guide us through it was fascinating. But it also just brings up a lot for me professionally, personally, like how you choose types of therapy or interventions, this whole concept of IFS. So it like both makes sense and and doesn't make sense, you know? it brought Yeah.
00:24:30
Speaker
Right. Which makes, so it's like wild to think about how much that one really brought in your profession along with it and that it's not like oh let me just enjoy this as a bystander it's like or bystander it's like no i well i mean sure but also yeah but gotta think about this like should i be using some of these techniques but then is it okay not to if they're so effective if
00:25:03
Speaker
A lot. Yeah. Yeah. Where for me, it was definitely much more like, oh, in order to do this effectively, i would A, have to actually allow those voices to be heard, which is what I spend most of my time avoiding them to be. And then secondly, I mean, this was so good for me to realize during this time. But also I was like, oh, yeah, I will lie.
00:25:35
Speaker
i will be like – I would tell like a therapist, you know, like, yep, totally, yep, it's working, you know, because I know what they want to hear, which is weird to even say. and I want to be right. Like I want to show that like, yeah, I totally know. I'm i'm like – I'm evolved. I understand. And it's like, oh my God, you will lie. And that would be far too easy to do in this kind of thing because it's all internal and so counterproductive. What the heck? So that was, and that was one where, i mean, i have a person very dear in my life who
00:26:20
Speaker
is now doing IFS therapy. And so it's so cool to be like, yay, you know, this was something that was, yeah. Like as a result of listening to the episode? Yes. yeah Yay. Yeah. We're changing lives. Yeah. Awesome. um Including our own, but also hopefully, yeah, hopefully there's people who have some fun new hobby or life-changing experience because of this. Mm-hmm.
00:26:52
Speaker
All right. What's our next one? Our next topic is, OK. So what interest have you adopted into your own life?
00:27:03
Speaker
All right. Well, let's start with protest. That one for I'm wearing this sweatshirt. I got the holiday lights flag. Bought a sign. Haven't put it up yet we just got it, but it's the only minority that's destroying this country is the billionaires. Nice. Love it. Got that one.
00:27:27
Speaker
And just in general, paying more attention to protest paying more attention to what's our responsibility during this time if we want a healthy democracy or just a democracy. Like what is ours to do during this time? That was one of the first ones that I felt like got into my consciousness where I just was thinking about it and being aware of it wherever I went. And so that's one that, especially in this holiday season, it's like, okay, well, do we, what does it mean to be a consumer and how can I use that power
00:28:07
Speaker
And does it even matter? You know, I've been boycotting Starbucks, which for me is a big deal. i used to work there. I love their chais. Their chais are better than anywhere else. And I would go every day.
00:28:19
Speaker
And, but because the ones who are trying to unionize, the baristas trying to unionize are having trouble and they're striking. So I'm boycotting and it's like, it feels so pointless in so many ways because I'm like,
00:28:36
Speaker
Is this even making a dent? Does anybody even know? Is it ever going to make a difference? But it's like, okay, okay. To even be aware of the fact that there are different ways in which companies can organize and protest can be more or less successful is is new information for me. Yeah.
00:28:53
Speaker
Yeah. Well, and I think if you do it, like you boycott and you tell people and then people know why people are doing it, it like amplifies that message. And if you were going every day, bet they feel that, at least in the individual store. They're like, right where's Patty? Where's that chai girl? Yes, exactly. Yes, I know. And because that store that I would always get it from in the mornings for most mornings was They are not unionized. I'm like, then I'm like, is this hurting or helping them? You know, like in those individuals. So like, that's always tricky. But yes, I agree with you. Maybe you could go in and just give them tips and then say, I'd buy something, but unionize.
00:29:42
Speaker
My sister did that. So like one of the first days she went in and she's like, hey, I'm, you know, I'm boycotting, um but here's a tip for you, you know, like for you guys. And she said that the girl, Sarah was just like,
00:29:56
Speaker
huh? Like she had no clue that it was even happening. Like this is the problem. Maybe then that was the beginning of her learning about it. And she was like, wait a minute.
00:30:11
Speaker
Yes. Yes. And then she could talk about it with the other baristas there. So yes, you're exactly right that that is a necessary way to do things. So I miss them. One of the other ones that I've definitely um incorporated into my daily life was personal style.
Unexpected Interests and Family Reactions
00:30:32
Speaker
oh my God, this is my other one too.
00:30:36
Speaker
i so I haven't done like an overhaul or anything like that, but I've been so much more thoughtful in what I'm buying and the questions that I ask about what I'm going to buy and what I've gotten rid of.
00:30:52
Speaker
And then also just even how I'm thinking about the way in which I dress my own body. So it's been fantastic.
00:31:05
Speaker
I agree. i think about it all the time. And I have actually gotten a whole bunch of clothes that I otherwise might have kept. And I have put them in a bag that is being ready to be gotten rid of. Some of them ah some things I've gotten rid of already. um But other, I mean, if not for that, I think I'd still be holding on to them.
00:31:28
Speaker
I also am constantly thinking about dark autumn colors. Constantly. sometimes this Sometimes I will choose to buy clothes solely based on the color. well Not solely, but like that's like the number one reason.
00:31:48
Speaker
Yes. Well, and and I've avoided buying certain things that I want that I would have otherwise convinced myself like that color could work. Quince, I get a ton of...
00:32:00
Speaker
um ads for them and everyone's all about the Mongolian cashier sweater and I look and none of the colors that they offer them in are at all what would look good on me and normally I would have been like well but oh well I'll just get the black or I'll get the gray you know even though they're like so wrong and I'm so glad that I am like no no this is not right so easy Yeah, yeah, same.
00:32:31
Speaker
It's like, yeah, i no more gray for me unless, no, probably just no more gray. Black is okay for a dark autumn. I think a black could be okay.
00:32:43
Speaker
Anyway, I actually, this is this is so ridiculous. I took a little screenshot of like this palette of dark autumn colors and I keep it on my phone so I can pull it out and compare it.
00:32:56
Speaker
but That is smart. So yeah, that one all the time. So thank you to Ivy for that. Because that was another one where I feel like there's several people who've come on where I've thought they were going to talk about one thing and then they talk about something completely different that I never knew they were that interested in or interested in at all.
00:33:19
Speaker
Well, like when you told me that your parents who have known Ivy for as long as you have were surprised that this is what she talked about because she has such an interesting job. I was like, and then she even like pitched us on another idea that also wasn't really like, holy crap. We have a lot of very interesting people in our lives. Yes.
00:33:41
Speaker
Yes. what What else have you adopted into your life, Patty? Murder, she wrote. Oh, my God. I was just going to say that, too.
00:33:50
Speaker
The fact that it's on my Roku as an app, like you know it's like the welcome screen, and it's like up in the top left corner is... Angela Lansbury's head with the fabulous classic Murder, She Wrote font on it. Just like I can watch it at any time. So I'll be like, well, let me watch Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. And then I'll watch that. And then I'll be like, and so while I'm doing my Duolingo, I'm just going to put on a episode of Murder, She Wrote and whatever episode, that's what I'm going to watch. love it night.
00:34:27
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, i have been watching a ton of Murder, She Wrote because it is so easy with the Roku. um like, Roku, do you want us to respond to run an app for us? um but But Roku and then anna and I have started watching Columbo, another different kind of comic.
00:34:53
Speaker
cozy murder mystery um and then also when molly was over and we were watching murder she wrote she logged us in into her uh peacock account so that we could watch poker face with natasha leone which is a colombo-esque show um okay because i have peacock so is that what that's something i should start watching what we just have watched the first few episodes, but it's definitely really good and um very, and i I mean, I love Natasha Lyonne and it's, it's well done. Very well done.
00:35:32
Speaker
Okay. And funny. And then, and then the also on Peacock is my love. Like this is another show that I love. It's not Monk. That's the original cozy murder show that I love. This one is not so cozy, but,
00:35:48
Speaker
It's Law and Order Criminal Intent with Vincent D'Onofrio. And he plays a Columbo-esque type New York detective as well. Okay. I have to look up if that's because the CI one that I know who's like, okay, Vincent. Not the creepy ass one. Not Criminal Minds. So not that one.
00:36:10
Speaker
Okay. It's like you knew that that's what I was thinking. Yeah, because I sometimes get it mixed up. But this one, interestingly enough, partway through the entire like run of the show, Vincent D'Onofrio started having the same issue that Angela Lansbury had where he was who was getting burned out.
00:36:31
Speaker
And so like if you look at the sixth season of Murder, she wrote... There are a whole bunch of episodes where Angela Lansbury's not even barely in them at all. she just She'll just be like, oh, in the beginning of the episode, like, I got a letter from my private detective friend. Oh, can you believe what happened? And then it'll go into like some other people. You tell this story. Yeah, exactly. And so the same thing happened. With Vincent D'Onofrio and that's when they brought in Chris Knopf from, you know, Mr. from the city mr Big. yeah And they like split the episodes. Yeah. I'm really sorry to tell you that Vincent D'Onofrio is the guy that I was fearing that it was. i can't stand him. He is so like intense. I know.
00:37:19
Speaker
Oh, I can't stand him. I love the woman that he's with on those. Oh yeah. I do love her. Yeah, she's great. That's interesting. So you've been watching that show. Okay. Well, it was one of those shows where on you know, Sundays or something, it was like it was like a marathon. And so I would watch and watch and I'd be like, I don't know why, but I love this show. I don't know why, but I'm obsessed.
00:37:48
Speaker
I used to watch SVU, like Law & Order SVU. That was my version that I loved. And yeah, and I will sometimes still listen to podcasts that recap episodes. Like i'm like, oh, I don't need to watch it. But I don't think I've watched enough SVU to to know if I think it's it's more disturbing, though, right? It is. It's yeah, it's yeah.
00:38:13
Speaker
so I mean, sometimes criminal intent is is disturbing, too. Right. But it's not always like women or children. Always a special victim. Right. Yeah. Sexual. Sometimes it's like, you know, ah like somebody who you're like, yeah, yeah. You know, I don't, I don't mind that this happened to you, fake person I don't think exists.
00:38:39
Speaker
Yeah, that was always dumb. I would watch that while babysitting. And so it's like the kids have gone to bed and then I'm like 15 years old in somebody's empty house and the parents aren't going to be home for like four more hours. And I'm like, I'll watch SVU and be scared. ah That's probably why I can't watch it or haven't watched too much of it.
00:39:02
Speaker
Yeah. But yes, Murder, She Wrote has been a blast. And it's so cute because like my aunt was saying she's the one who – She loved Murder, She Wrote and got her daughter into it, who then, like, I watched Marathon with when I was babysitting her years ago. And she's like, oh, yeah, we still watch it every night. And we love that that scene when it'll be Jessica's face at the end. Like, you know. It's just so so wonderful.
00:39:30
Speaker
Yeah. And I i now am ah have, like, a little, little crush on her bestie, Seth, the doctor. Mm-hmm. For no good reason. I mean, mostly because he he like calls her woman and it's pretty funny and endearing.
00:39:47
Speaker
yeah Yeah, he's like a man of a certain era, but like a good man. like Even when he's calling her like woman, it's like not in a pejorative way. It's like in a...
00:39:59
Speaker
take me seriously just you need to relax you need to take care of yourself like yeah but also like endearing because you know like i care about you so much that i and and they have like a a cute banter you know well i might start writing fan fiction like where they get together maybe i'll do this i don't know i love the idea of fan fiction i don't know if i want them to get together but it would be kind of weird And I mean, I'm not against it. You are a lovely writer. So whatever you do, I'm going to enjoy it. So go for it. Adam said I should try writing the reboot, like ah an episode, ah a pilot for the reboot, and then, you know, try to to send it. I'll just mail it to Hollywood and see what happens.
00:40:49
Speaker
To Jamie Lee Curtis. What if I send it to Javier and then ah and then he just can like, make a lot of copies and throw it in the streets.
00:41:02
Speaker
On a windy day. Well, what about wondering, like, in terms of feedback or like people talking about episodes, like, because sometimes my family would mention certain episodes or talk about certain things. I'm wondering, like, if there are some that you heard about more or like in general, like, what are what are some of the ones that were popular?
00:41:28
Speaker
Yeah. Well, it it was funny because my family like and friends who were listening in the beginning, they were like, huh, I was surprised that your your topic was the library, you know just like of myself.
00:41:41
Speaker
um So that was definitely one. And then i as I mentioned, um someone started doing internal family systems therapy based on our um podcast and I got so much feedback about the personal style. Like my mom was like, I did my colors and here, let's do this. Like when she came to visit then once shortly after that podcast, like she wanted to, and my sister, my mom and I, none of us are like fashionable by any means, you know, like we,
00:42:19
Speaker
style is not like a huge part of our value system. However, she like wanted to go through and like talk about the different outfit, like things that we like and look at the outfits that that we would have picked, you know, that they would have picked while doing that exercise. And so it was very cute that it was like something that she took to heart and then wanted to continue to evaluate and discuss. And then she was like, I'd love to buy you each an outfit.
00:42:52
Speaker
which neither of us have taken her up on. Do it, do it. I know. But I was like, that was just so cute. you know like yes yeah So my parents, same. They were like talking about the style words. And my you know my mom and I sometimes, like especially around the holidays or around our birthdays, we will like go shopping together. And that's like a thing we do. And So we talked about her style words and mine. and My dad was like, well, I don't have a style. And I'm like, did you listen to the episode? Because if you don't think you don't have a style, then your style is like, well, I mean, for him, it's like Costco. It's like whatever my mom has bought. ah It's
00:43:40
Speaker
Utilitarian. Yes, utilitarian. Right. Like there's still words to describe it. And so we talked about that. My uncle also was like, what are my style words? and he cant like i In terms of feedback, like, yes, that was one that we got the most, some of the most interaction with on. in comments like your uncle was like talking to ivy about like the blazer you know and like how often do you bring it and what kind what is the fabric then he also like mentioned like i bet your dad and i would have the same three style words and it's like yeah how cool too to think about that as like a familial or generational or you know and what we discovered was
00:44:26
Speaker
They do not have the same style words. so Really? Yeah. Because I said three style words that sounded like my dad and my uncle was like, don't think so.
00:44:39
Speaker
So, yeah. That's cool. They have their individual style, even though they're both white men of a certain age. And maybe even wearing the same things, but like the why is different. Like what get the reason that they go that route is different for them.
00:44:56
Speaker
Exactly. Yeah. So that one, i was going to say same, the personal, finding your personal style. And i would say protest.
00:45:09
Speaker
I mean, of course, right now. Heard a lot about that one. And then our most listened to one, most listened to episode was Uncle Jim's episode on Long Falls.
00:45:21
Speaker
Yeah. Which I assume is because there's a following. He's got a Long Fall following. Yes. Which thank you for bringing your Long Fall following to us because- Yeah, that we got a spike then. And the second spike we got in general, listeners, was when we had our only non-friend slash family member on as a guest with the grassroots marketing with Elena Scheer.
00:45:49
Speaker
That was another one where I was ah thought about you know that being as one of the most surprising ones for me because I've i've never thought too much about marketing, but she made it sound so like organic and relevant to so many things. you know You make it relevant to what you care about.
00:46:10
Speaker
Yeah. And i just loved how like she just she just knew her stuff and was able to give us some really great advice, takeaways and things to to work on.
00:46:24
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. That was fun, you know. And like even doing this revisiting like this retrospective of the year, I feel is in line with some of the feedback that she gave of like, have a goal and then do regular check-ins on it. Like, is that still, like, how did it go? How did that work? Is that still what I want? Am I moving in the right direction? Yeah.
Podcast Growth and Future Aspirations
00:46:48
Speaker
Yeah, that was that was such a cool experience overall to have somebody to actually like that reached out to us and to have her be so generous and interesting and to have a conversation that I was pretty nervous about because it's like, oh, I have to do a different level of preparation for a conversation with someone. somebody that neither of us know and that it it worked out well.
00:47:16
Speaker
And then it was really kind of fun to see who I still don't totally know why. i mean, other than, of course, she, like your Uncle Jim, has a large following, but that we had this increase in in listeners and then people reaching out. That was just, it was exciting.
00:47:34
Speaker
I completely agree. And I think it gave, it probably gave both of us an idea of where we can go like not just with her suggestions but like with people reaching out to us and people being interested like who we don't know it's like oh maybe maybe this is not just something that supported by us our parents and and mostly our parents
00:48:09
Speaker
Thank you, mom and dad. um We love you.
00:48:16
Speaker
Yeah, which I guess brings us to our final kind of topic is like, what what did we learn about starting a podcast and and doing this as friends and amateurs? So...
00:48:32
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so For me, the first thing is, actually, these probably tie together like two things. One is you don't have to be perfect to get started.
00:48:44
Speaker
In fact, just get started because they're never going to be perfect and you won't really know until you start. So, yeah you know, we we were recording. We held off on posting anything for a little while.
00:49:01
Speaker
but We were still, we didn't have everything all together before we decided to just start putting it out there. And I think that's that's a good way to to figure out what you need to know.
00:49:14
Speaker
This kind of goes along with the other one, which is you don't have to be an expert teacher. to be in the conversation. I read this like somewhere recently and I was like, this is so applicable because we have a lot of people who say like, oh, well, I can't really talk about this because I'm not an expert or like, they're like, I'm going to talk about it, but remember, I'm not an expert. Yeah, like Marielle was very big on that, right? Yeah, yeah.
00:49:40
Speaker
And I've had other people say that to me, like, if I'm like, oh, do you want to come on and talk about this? They'll be like, well, I'm not an expert. Like, yes, that's, that's, we know, that's why we want you on. So i think that you just, to be in the conversation is, is the important part.
00:49:58
Speaker
And such good advice for us too, because we are in the conversations, all of them. And we're not experts on any of those things. And so, yeah, sometimes it can feel intimidating when I don't even know the the language to speak about somebody's interest. But it's like, that's okay. I can ask questions and come from a real noob's perspective. And people like to talk about what they're interested in. Mm-hmm.
00:50:26
Speaker
Yeah. And we're just trying to absorb that energy. Yeah. We're sucking up their interest energy.
00:50:37
Speaker
i also, i mean, like you said, start just get started was, and you were really good about pushing that. I was like, i don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And it's like, yeah, just just get started because we couldn't we couldn't know what we didn't know. And just all of the things that we learned about how to even get a podcast out and both how easy it is and also how like complicated it is. Like, it's still surprising to me that I'm like, they put this on Apple and Spotify. Like, like there.
00:51:13
Speaker
And, you know, trying to figure those things out and like the language and especially as someone who has kind of intentionally stayed away from social media, figuring that out again,
00:51:25
Speaker
And with the changes in, you know, not wanting to be on what was former formerly Twitter, i mean, for political reasons. And like, where are people and kind of trying to be more involved in that for the podcast while also still trying to like protect myself from being on it for my own personal reasons. I don't know. It's just, that's been so interesting and it's been really great because one of the things that I regularly struggle with is just feeling like I am not competent. And so this has been a really good lesson in, we can do it. We can figure it out. There, there's a way.
00:52:09
Speaker
yeah, just let that feeling not competent part of you say what you got to say. And then of the other parts can step on in. but yeah I mean, I have like a strong procrastination tendency, which is why i was like, okay, we got to put it out because that's the only way to make sure like if there are these deadlines, then yeah then we're going to do it. Otherwise, i could procrastinate like it's my job. I mean, yeah, I'm great at it. I just i don't want to brag. but ah Super competent at procrastinating. Yes, it's my greatest skill.
00:52:52
Speaker
Well, and and even just like small things that we learned, like, okay, let's have a shared Google Doc where we'll put our episodes, like, you know, so that we have a calendar and like what episodes going to be coming out. And okay, this is how we'll approach...
00:53:09
Speaker
Scheduling with people who are interested and figuring out what each of us like to do so that we we can take those pieces on and it's not any one person doing too much or doing things that they don't like that the other person does or doesn't mind has been really good as well.
00:53:33
Speaker
I would agree that although there are I feel like some things that both of us are like, like Like, I don't mind doing social media, but I'm not good at it. But I think I mind less than you do.
00:53:51
Speaker
ah
00:53:54
Speaker
But that's why in our um future vision, there's a social media manager, right? dread I can't remember. It's, you know, maybe he's hidden behind Mark Ruffalo, but... Right, right, right, right.
00:54:12
Speaker
And so we did do that whole episode about kind of like our hopes for the future. But is there anything that you're looking forward to for 2026?
00:54:23
Speaker
I'm looking forward to seeing who's going to be coming on and and what new things we're going to learn about. and then also seeing if there is opportunity for growing it.
00:54:40
Speaker
How do we get out in front of more people? And then seeing how how this evolves. is it Does it stay on the topics? Or does Do we take a different spin to it? So yeah, that's, I think that's what I'm interested in. How about you?
00:54:57
Speaker
i would agree. And then i think we've we've talked about some possible bonus episodes that we could do if we ever eventually start like a a newsletter or we have some sort of Patreon or something like that. If there's people who want the the bonus stuff.
00:55:19
Speaker
don't know. I think that that could be That could be fun. yeah So looking at those opportunities, that was one thing that I thought was also really interesting and useful ah with the grassroots marketing episode is that I think in my mind, it's like, okay, if you get kind of lucky, you'll get more listeners right and more people engaged in your podcast if it like strikes a chord with people. But it's like, no, there are different steps that you take to get it out there.
00:55:53
Speaker
the Things that you do systematically, regularly, posting, you know, that and reaching out to other podcasts and that sort of thing.
00:56:04
Speaker
And then that grows it. It's not just some random, do the podcast, God's shine on you.
00:56:16
Speaker
Like it was in my head. and your answer to that was like, yes, of course the podcast guys will shine on us. Right. It's like, does everybody all of a sudden get interested in murder podcasts?
00:56:31
Speaker
And then it's like, oh, good. You were ahead of the curve and everybody's suddenly interested in interest podcasts. Right. Like, no, no, we got to do the work.
00:56:42
Speaker
Yeah. It was funny. um I guess on the way back from Thanksgiving my sister was listening to an episode of the podcast with her two youngest in the car and so Emilio the five-year-old was like Tia we heard you on the radio and I was like oh okay yeah my podcast and he's like yeah why aren't you famous and I was like oh it's it's gonna happen pretty soon and he's like then I'll be famous and I'm like that's not how it works so You gotta be famous on your own kid.
00:57:15
Speaker
No nepotism here. Well, that's, that's good because then, um, it was like towards the beginning, right? When, um, Layla, who is like too slow or what did she say? She was like um too long. That's a lot of talking. Yeah. Yeah. Too long. Okay. we We're going to take that feedback. Thank you.
00:57:42
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as This is one of our longest episodes yet.
00:57:46
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Let's keep going. Yeah. you know We're allowed to make it as long as possible. For those of us out there who are like me, who when I see a certain episode, like when I see one of my podcasts come out and it's like a two-hour episode, i'm like, yeah like I'm just so happy that it'll be like, I'll have company for the next two hours and I won't have to think about it. Wait, but they could talk for two hours?
00:58:10
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Wow. Wow. yeah And I listen. And it's just one of many that I'll listen to in a day.
00:58:22
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Are you able to do things while you're listening? Yeah. So then I'll put on like certain ones while I'm working that I'm like less... like, oh, I need to listen to.
00:58:33
Speaker
And then whereas like on my walk with the dog, I'll put on one that I'm like, now tell me a story or like, you know, in the morning it's like the news or whatever. So yes, i I mix it up depending. And then there are some that I listen to while I'm going to sleep that aren't meant to put you to sleep, but I'm like, oh yeah, their voice is very comforting. And like the topic that they talk about is very comforting and it's fine if I fall asleep.
00:59:00
Speaker
i I have trouble with things that have words when I'm trying to concentrate on something else. But in the car, it's good for the car. Yeah, that makes sense. And I mean, if I were smart, I probably wouldn't listen while I'm working. Like I should listen to Mozart or something like that or nothing. But yeah, I don't But does does it work? I'm not very good at doing what I should do. Yeah. Well, but I mean, does it work? Like you're still able to work and you're still able to do it. So it's like.
00:59:32
Speaker
But could I be better, Charlotte? Could I be better without it? um I don't know. Honestly, who needs to be that great at their job?
00:59:46
Speaker
Well, um i think I think we go for another year. I think so, at least. And I would love to hear from any of our listeners. Shoot us an email or post on our social media or leave a comment if you're able to. um my mom did ask. She's like, you say to leave a comment, and I want to. um in Apple, you can only leave a comment once. What?
01:00:11
Speaker
Yeah. But in Spotify and others, you can leave comments as many times as you want. So feel free to leave a comment. We're going to create a newsletter for this purpose soon. Okay, there you go. For you, Kathleen.
01:00:25
Speaker
Yes, yes. But so that people can um tell us something that was fun, either related to this podcast or not in their year um and what they're looking forward to.
01:00:41
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And if you tried out any of the interests or hobbies or any of those things and are still doing it or started IFS therapy and love it, have started your own erotica blog. We want to know. Ooh, I did want to say that I did do that 10 K with the eggnog and the pie And so did my brother. um and I didn't know Charlie was doing it too. Yep. He's doing it.
01:01:15
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he He's doing it. I don't think he loves running, but he likes it enough. And he's ah he's a good brother. So yeah he did it too. Yeah. And I did not train well enough.
01:01:29
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And I did not pee beforehand like I should have. Oh. So I spent a lot of the time trying to figure out if I could get go in the bushes without anybody seeing me.
01:01:42
Speaker
I did not. I did not. wait Is it because there there were not porta potties or because you didn't want to do the porta potty route? There were no porta potties. I did not. i did not realize that there were porta potties for the half marathon portion of it, but not for 10 K. And i thought crap.
01:02:02
Speaker
Yeah. I thought like it's a 10 K you'll have at least one porta potty. Yes, even in 5Ks that I've done, they have porta potties because you never know when you need to go. and like yeah and there's a line for the bathroom before the race starts. so yeah But anyway, I did chug the eggnog.
01:02:20
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It was delicious. Even while having to pee? Oh, yeah, yeah, because it was at the top of us this big-ass hill. So by the time I got up there, I was like, give me nutrients.
01:02:32
Speaker
Sorry. Maybe i'll I'll post some pictures, say took a picture, and then also like after you drink the eggnog and you keep going, there's a sign that has like a turkey that's – and then it says like puke here.
01:02:47
Speaker
so Which when you sent me that, I just felt so vindicated because I was like that's exactly what I was thinking. Like who are giving people eggnog? People who are running, they are going to puke. Yeah.
01:03:02
Speaker
But, you know, there's no bubbles. It's not carbonated. And so I think that helped because you had talked about the beer when you, you know. Yeah. And I feel like the carbonation makes it like, okay, that could be a problem. But eggnog is just going to coat your stomach. She's going to coat it the insides.
01:03:22
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It's eggs. It's eggs.
01:03:29
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Sure. yeah No, it's not the bubbles that I'm worried about.
01:03:35
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Well, it was it was good. It was a little cup. I kind of wanted more, but I just i took the biggest cup. and then um And then there was pie towards the end, and that was also really good. so What kind? of i just It was pumpkin pie, which is my favorite. So wanted to give that update.
01:03:52
Speaker
Congratulations. That's a big deal. you. Thank you. Thank you. And are you signed up for anything else? Because I know you like to kind of have those on the calendar so that forces you
Personal Endeavors and Sports Reflections
01:04:05
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to train.
01:04:05
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I do. I I signed up for a half marathon for April. You're like, I would like porta-potties on my route. I will do the half marathon. I checked. I checked. They got them. They got them.
01:04:17
Speaker
They got them. They got them. They got the porta potty. All right. Well, the half marathon so you can get a porta potty that you don't want to go into. um Also, if your brother is such a good brother, maybe he will just carry one of those like pop-up bathroom things so that like it's just like around you. Like, okay, put it around me so that I can just squat. Yeah.
01:04:40
Speaker
yeah I considered hanging something around me. cause I was like, maybe next time you wear like like a depends pad. oh or a whole of hope Yeah.
01:04:55
Speaker
yeah Something more subtle, you know, just a big diaper. yeah um the outside. yeah Yeah, I signed up for it. ah And I think this time, mark my words, I'm going to actually really stick to the training plan. It's going to happen.
01:05:16
Speaker
It starts in January. Okay. It does not start now. Okay. Any last updates from you or follow-ups that you want to give us?
01:05:28
Speaker
No. Oh, we just – okay, yeah. um We just had our final volleyball game yesterday, so my coaching career has ended. um Wait, we didn't even hear how it was going. How was it going?
01:05:43
Speaker
It went. Yeah, we didn't win a single – um game we did win like so it'll be like three um sets within a match and we did win like a set here or there to make it go to three which was good and as my co-coach Alex did say we were definitely the most improved team by far. Yeah. There was a lot of really good improvements and, um, and the kids were all really excited yesterday because while none of the parents brought snacks all season long. And so I would bring snacks. Um, three parents brought snacks yesterday to the game. So they were psyched with how much they got to eat at the end of it
01:06:32
Speaker
so So, yeah, it was an experience that definitely made me feel really insecure at times and also understand the importance of just being an adult who shows up.
01:06:45
Speaker
Like sometimes that's all that needs to happen. Yeah. Yeah. And shows up with snacks even better. i know. i know. Congratulations. And are you going to do it again?
01:06:57
Speaker
i don't think so. No. I i mean, i think it's one of those things again. Like if I got into a situation where Emilio or Layla were ever on a team and it wasn't going to happen because they didn't have a coach, maybe. ah But I will no longer be checking the box that says – like i can I'm willing to help.
01:07:22
Speaker
ah Lesson learned. It was a long lesson, but it stuck. Well, congratulations to you and your team.
01:07:32
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Thank you. For occasionally winning a set. Yes! And being most improved. Yeah. Well, I hope everybody has a very wonderful rest of 2025. Yeah, and...
01:07:46
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yeah and I hope everyone stays interesting. And stays interested. We'll see you next time. See you in 2026.
01:07:59
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Bye.
Conclusion and Listener Engagement
01:08:00
Speaker
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