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25- Celebrity Gossip...The Follow Up
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Javier Delgado joins us for the follow-up to our episode on celebrity gossip. We do a check-in, on how we’re *really* feeling. Then (at the 6:23 mark), we talk about our homework, which was to look at a ton of celebrity gossip (of course), and imagine how a publicist would spin it a few decades ago. We go waaay beyond the scope of the homework and cover a wide range of celebrity gossip-related topics, and celebrities (including Ariana Grande, Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Tom Sandoval, Lisa Barlow, Grocery Store Joe, and more!).
We talk about gossip in the age of social media, and how it’s changed what it means to be a celebrity today, as well as the role of the paparazzi. We discuss the most interesting gossip headlines we’ve seen recently, including where politics and celebrity gossip collide—the Epstein emails. This leads to a discussion on sexual abuse scandals, and how exposure of these issues (in the form of gossip, for example) can positively impact other survivors.
We revisit the Blake Lively/Justin Baldoni situation and Javier gives us the updates, including the recently released video clips. If you love The Real Housewives, we’ve got lots of talk about the best Housewives and all their drama. We discuss reality tv’s renaissance, including the evolution of The Bachelor franchise. Javier and Patti introduce Charlotte to the tv show, The Traitors, on Peacock. Then we talk about a bunch of the Bravo shows, and make plans to go to BravoCon, in Las Vegas.
Accessibility of celebrity gossip is up next, and we bring back the LOIS - Level of Integration Score (1-100). And finally, we learn which celebrity is rocking out to Hilary Duff’s new song in prison.
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Welcome
00:00:00
Speaker
You know that thing you love that your friends and family don't want to hear about anymore? Tell it to us, Patty and Charlotte. We want to learn all about your weird and wild obsessions or your perfectly normal hobbies that you've taken just a little too far.
00:00:15
Speaker
We want to dabble in your curious interests. Can we interest you in today's episode?
00:00:35
Speaker
Hi Charlotte. Hi Patti. And we have back with us today Javier. Hey Javi. hi everybody. Good morning. Good morning. So how are you guys today?
Weather and Health Talk
00:00:46
Speaker
And we're going to actually answer honestly about how we are and not just do the fine.
00:00:54
Speaker
So how are you? oh oh So this morning I'm a little tired. It's really rainy outside so it's kind of gray. So my mood's already like just stay in bed.
00:01:05
Speaker
um Last night we went out for ramen and i got home and I just passed out from like a food coma. So today I feel like have a food hangover.
00:01:17
Speaker
Yeah. Where don't want to do anything. Well, thank you for crawling out of bed for this because that is a perfect day to just like a Saturday and rainy, which like in LA, it never rains. It never does. And it's supposed to be four or five days. Oh, wow. Oh, that's too much. Yeah. No, no. People in LA are spoiled. You you get you can you know have the rain and be like, okay, we deserve it. We've been spoiled for too long.
00:01:49
Speaker
And then you'll see people in parkas or raincoats outside with flip-flops or Birkenstocks. So the contrast is really interesting. Yeah.
00:02:02
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And like that you would invest in a raincoat or a parka for weather that you so rarely get, you know, like is amazing. But it's all about the the look.
00:02:13
Speaker
The look, yeah. While you're walking your dog and picking up their troop poop. Poop. Yes. How about you, Charlotte? How are you today? Well, I got the COVID and ah flu shot at the same time earlier this week, but like Monday. But I feel like it has affected me much of the week.
00:02:33
Speaker
So it's really affected my training for the turkey truck the turkey track that's next week. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. i mean, it's affected it and my own lack of training has affected it. So I think I'm still going to be fine. i will You know, that the lure of eggnog and pie is going to get me through.
00:03:01
Speaker
Well, that's what I was going to say. Have you at least been like training on drinking eggnog? and No. Oh, okay. That's something you could have been doing.
00:03:13
Speaker
i had ah I had a pumpkin spice espresso martini. Does that count? That's for the the pumpkin pie you know, training.
Sports Excitement and Social Plans
00:03:20
Speaker
Yeah. That doesn't count. Why not? Oh, but also one one other thing is I'm going to a Bulls-Nuggets game on Monday.
00:03:31
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fun. I'm pretty excited for that. are you going to be cheering for? Well, you're cheering for the Bulls, and we're going to be wearing a lot of red and a lot of, like, I think that we have, like, oh, yeah, we do have these, like, little horns that we got.
00:03:48
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going to show you guys. Hold on.
00:03:52
Speaker
Oh, so they kind of could be devil horns, but in this case, they're bull horns. Yeah, they are devil horns. We got them um at Spirit Halloween. so That's perfect, though. Yeah. Wait, and so before I interrupted you, you said you guys got pretty good seeds?
00:04:07
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Yeah, we did this last year, too, where we got Adam spent, you know, the money to get seats behind the the Bulls bench. And so we and some other people who were there, too, made so much noise that they actually turned around multiple times and, like...
00:04:26
Speaker
waved at us that's awesome yeah oh and i hope like those game buddies will be there too so again i hope so too there was even this guy who was not a fan he was like rooting for the nuggets but he was he was good-natured enough to that they like we became friends with him too oh that's good no fights broke out not not in our section at least And how are Patty?
00:04:57
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I am okay. We had a bonfire last night, which was very fun. It was almost too warm for a bonfire, but I was like, I have not done one yet in this fire pit, and so I would like to. And so that was really fun, but I'm still smelling like smoke, you know, like how even those first few showers after, everything's kind of clinging. And I drink wine, and i I don't drink a ton anymore, and I have such a headache from it. i was like, oh my God, I'm like... hung over from two glasses.
00:05:30
Speaker
i Kind of and ridiculous. Yeah. And it's so hot today. Like I went for a walk with um my sister, the kids and the dog this morning and I wore a sweater thinking, oh, it's fall. And i i was sweating and too hot and had a headache. I was like, i just feel gross.
00:05:48
Speaker
Did you feel like you were like in college like the next day after like a night out except it was just two days and a sweater? yeah And you're like walking around in your flannel but pajama pants out in in regular times, which I remember that from campus too. Like you'd go to a nine o'clock class and it felt appropriate. But then if you went to classes right back to back and it's suddenly three o'clock, you're like, I shouldn't be in my pajama pants out in
Celebrity Gossip and Social Media
00:06:15
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public. This feels so wrong.
00:06:18
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but College life.
00:06:23
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Okay, so this was fun because, man, there was a lot. and Well, I mean, there's always a lot of celebrity gossip happening in the world. But it was really fun to be like...
00:06:36
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reoriented to it and kind of allowing myself to look into things when they would come up and be like mentioned i listen to podcasts all day long and so usually it's things that i know but if they would make like a reference for example they made a reference to aria on ariana grande and her ex maybe um if find job Yeah, maybe being broken up. And so like then I was like, oh, wait, I need to like look into this, you know. And so it was kind of fun to just spend a little bit more time really like digging into different things. So I really enjoyed it.
00:07:16
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Yeah, I realized how much I don't know because half the time i had to figure out like, who is this person? Yeah. Who are the people who there's gossip about who I know?
00:07:28
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And then also what really surprised me was that there was some gossip about people who I didn't know anybody was still talking about anymore. Like Hillary Duff. Are we still talking about her? I'm shaking his head. Yes. I didn't know.
00:07:45
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has new music coming out. So. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, and then of course we're always talking about Britney Spears still no matter what, but Kevin Federline too. Like, come on. I thought you'd go away and stay away forever.
00:08:00
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He just came out with his book. well when So he started doing interviews about the book and what he's going to be talking about in the book with like... I guess, outlets. And Britney Spears on her social media wrote out this huge statement about like how she's tired of people gaslighting her life. and she She's like, fine with that.
00:08:20
Speaker
Her ex-husband like trying to write this all tell-all book. It's not good for her or the kids. And then she deleted her Instagram for like a week. So everybody would call up, what's going on? And people were like, we're boycotting this book. We're not buying it.
00:08:35
Speaker
Right on. And then of nowhere, Brittany was back. And then she just ignored the whole thing. so i think that was a good move on her her part she's Yeah, it's like you made a statement. like You made it clear that you're not okay with it. And people reacted in kind. you know Like, oh, we're going to take this seriously. She she deleted her Instagram. like um That's funny that you bring up Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater. Because I also read that there was maybe they had broken up. And there's this Wicked for Good special that just came out on Peacock that they filmed at the Dolby Theater here in Hollywood.
00:09:17
Speaker
And they had everybody from the cast. They did a bunch of songs for the first movie and the new movie. And then at the end, everybody came out and like got applause. But... There was no interaction between Ariana and Ethan. And there were always like one on and the other on the other side. And then when everybody was hugging, you didn't see them hug at all. So that was also speculation on what was going on during the wow possible breakup.
00:09:40
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But I mean, everybody's been saying Ariana Grande is kind of like a method entertainer or actor. So like it's part of the wicked persona. So like when she moves on to like the next thing, she'll change the look and possibly even like the, like, partner into everything so we'll see we'll see in march after ward season yeah well and that also they were saying oh but she just liked something on his instagram so that brought me back to it too where i was like oh my god this social media is ah again just by a like or or not liking something and like when people go through and actually untag
00:10:22
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a person after they've broken up or remove all of the images of them versus, okay, I'll just leave that. That's a capsule in time. And then, but that people read into so much of like, yeah, but she commented on that comment, which is about him and some other thing or didn't like this post and they haven't been posting together. It's just incredible. The amount of data that you can find if looking in social media.
00:10:53
Speaker
Well, social media is also tricky where like if you unfriend somebody and to delete them off your Instagram footprint, like a few weeks later, you'll get a suggestion. Oh, this person is friends with like 90% of your friends. You should be friends with them.
00:11:10
Speaker
yeah one thing i'm wondering about like that whole like you know kind of looking at who's liking what and who's unfriending who is does that has that changed how intrusive the paparazzi used to be you know how they would like kind of stalk celebrities and be trying to take pictures and break into their stuff like now if this kind of data is more available like i wonder if that makes it less likely that they're going to that sort of thing? Well, I saw, forgot, I don't know what outlet it was, but they were talking about how, why celebrities or known people get their social media's account hacked. And one of the people they brought up was Paris Hilton.
00:11:59
Speaker
And it was just some random person that was trying to log into her Instagram and like discovered that her password was her dog's name Tinkerbell. seriously ah ah one of her accounts got got hacked so i guess it just comes down to well there is so much information you out there so you're not a regular person so you can't be coming up with like passwords that people will guess yeah so i think that contributes to like just being overexposed and then just like people commenting and the likes i don't know if you remember
00:12:31
Speaker
When Instagram first came out, you had the option of liking a post or disliking a post. Yeah. And then they took that dislike option. And now you have the option of turning off comments so that people don't comment on your post.
00:12:45
Speaker
or it'll it won't show the amount of hearts or likes you'll get on a post. I'm sure that has one, maybe just for like privacy stuff, like for the user and their protection, but it might also have things to do with like one's mental health of like, I'm posting a picture of me with this new outfit, but I got nine dislikes and one like,
00:13:09
Speaker
i don't know if this happened to you guys, but when pandemic first started and there were all the Black Lives Matter posts and all these different support things, people were getting crazy. um I posted, it was like just the black screen in support of Black Lives Matter. And I used, I guess, the wrong tag. And somebody, like a friend of a friend messaged me and was like, please don't use that tag. You're cluttering the, what's that called? The ah feed? Yeah.
00:13:38
Speaker
Yeah, the feed where like the you're taking that that tag and it's like pulling like it all focus. Yeah, so it's like now pushing all the other ones with the right tag. So then I was like, oh, sorry, I didn't know what that was. So then I just kind of like unfriended the friend and then the host.
00:13:59
Speaker
Interesting. Yeah. I think that it's so it's so weird how like there's so much focus on that kind of thing, like the the liking or the tag or the particular thing you do. And it just makes me think of when you're dating somebody and you're like, what does this text mean? you know And you're like asking everybody. Or like it just like that extreme focus on the most minute details that don't necessarily mean that much. like They're not that important. yeah Is your one tag going to truly mess up the whole algorithm? Probably not.
00:14:37
Speaker
yeah And is that the point? Right. Is this going to make a difference? Like, yeah, let's let's recalibrate our focus. yeah Well, and I remember even, like, so I'm not super into social media, but when ah ah someone was trying to explain to me, everyone should like all of their friends' posts. And I was like, okay, but then what – so you're always going to have the same number of likes. Right.
00:15:05
Speaker
Right. How do you gauge if somebody actually likes something versus it's a mandatory, you know, you have to go through and kind of do all of that. And like, then what does that mean?
00:15:18
Speaker
And yet, yeah, there is that like endorphin rush of, oh, another like or another comment or... Whatever. I even think about that, like with the texting when they allowed the reaction texting. I mean, man, that just like really diluted any. Now it's so easy to just be like, dink you know, thumbs up, heart, exclamation points, you know. i got it. Yeah. Right.
00:15:44
Speaker
Sometimes with the thumbs up, I'm like, oh, no. Are they going to be like, why didn't she heart it? She just thumbs up it. yes She hates me. Well, I've noticed on Outlook, you have the option of thumbs upping or loving somebody's email.
00:16:00
Speaker
Yes. That's so annoying. me Oh, it drives me nuts. I love how you're goingnna circle back on this topic. Oh, no, was just going to bring it back to like celebrity news. And if anybody read any interesting headlines
Epstein Emails and Legal Discussions
00:16:16
Speaker
this week. Can I talk about the most interesting headlines that I've been reading and that we have all probably been reading and I've been obsessed with? And it falls under like ah bunch of categories. And I'm so sorry to bring this up. But the Epstein emails.
00:16:33
Speaker
yeah have come out and this is like okay I found that there's like this database I haven't looked very closely into it but somebody created a database of these emails from the Epstein estate where you can like search for stuff within the emails so there are ol f I think what yeah there's there's like a search function in there because otherwise these emails are actually completely bonkers and who who writes like this is this how very rich people write they're like I can't be bothered with traditional grammar but anyway so you can find celebrities or like I mean i guess like tech people and politicians and all these people within these emails not to mention of course the president of the United States
00:17:30
Speaker
But so, yeah, I've been very, very into that. Also a lot of celebrity gossip, too. And technically, this counts as celebrity gossip since he was a game show host. So. True. Yeah.
00:17:41
Speaker
Okay. So did what tell us what what has been, i mean, it's all interesting, but what have you found particularly good? Well, I mean, i think we know, obviously, like what the content is.
00:17:57
Speaker
The part that I'm loving is, and this is kind of related to, because I think our assignment was like, what would this be like back in a different era of celebrity gossip? And I was thinking about this back in, um let's say the time we were in high school or college, which would have been late 90s, early 2000s for me, mid to to late 90s, actually. Yeah. Then there just there wouldn't have been the opportunity, the the wonderful opportunity to see a president melt down in real time with his posts on social media.
00:18:38
Speaker
to like what him What have his posts been? haven't seen any of that. He posted one. it was like mad at Marjorie Taylor Greene. Actually, there's more than one now.
00:18:51
Speaker
ah Mad at Marjorie Taylor Greene because she signed that petition to force a vote on the Epstein files. And it was basically like...
00:19:01
Speaker
Marjorie Taylor Greed's just mad at me because i wouldn't support her governor run, but like she's really nothing. And also every single word was capitalized in it for some reason. Including he called her ah a lunatic capital L. And then I think he posted again, like recently, maybe today saying something like she should be called Marjorie Taylor Brown because when grass dies, it turns brown.
00:19:31
Speaker
so That is such a sad burn. It's really sad. And then it can if you i can't even believe it, but Marjorie Taylor Greene, her response was classy.
00:19:44
Speaker
You know, as much as classy as she can be. it was basically like... Thanks for the support from people who have been supporting me. And this is about like, you know, victims of rape. And like, this is about, you know, this is what this is about. And that was the thing that a politician should be posting.
00:20:07
Speaker
So yeah I'm just, I'm just like living in a state of like schadenfreude, I believe. where Is that where you just are delighting in somebody else's misery?
00:20:20
Speaker
i don't know. I love it, though. I wouldn't even know how to spell it to Google it. So that's where I've been. But also I've been looking into the the Blake Lively situation, learning more about that.
00:20:37
Speaker
Oh, yeah, there was a dismissal, right, of a lawsuit? Yes. Well, so Baldoni's lawsuit against Ryan and Blake for $400 million, dollars which was how much they're worth, like all of their things. How much? $400 million?
00:20:57
Speaker
Yeah, that's how much they're worth combined, supposedly. Yeah. That lawsuit got thrown out by the judge maybe a few weeks ago, maybe a month ago now. And he had until just recently to like resubmit the the lawsuit. And it was just pretty much a defamation suit saying that they were trying to just destroy his public name and now like loss of wages and jobs and things. But they didn't refile it. I'm guessing they won't until this the initial trial is over because...
00:21:29
Speaker
If they win that trial where like, oh, they didn't create a smear campaign and Blake Lively is just crazy, then he can be like, okay, well they wasted my like my my time for the last two years. i couldn't work and whatever. Now he can.
00:21:43
Speaker
probably come back and sue them with that but i think i think it's good because it was also pulling focus and i don't know if you guys saw there's been some clips that have been released this week from wayfarer party and it's just recordings of when they were shooting the film and it's all just like yelled cut they always had somebody doing behind the scenes and there's a part where like lively is on the floor with these like fishnet boots explained to the crew why these shoes are sexy yeah Which is the same word that she is claiming Justin used on her and she felt uncomfortable because he said, oh, you look so sexy in this outfit. And then they also released that part of where she said, he said that. And it's in response to her being like, I don't want to wear this if my character doesn't look sexy. And he said, oh, you look so sexy. It's fine. You can wear it.
00:22:39
Speaker
Wow. I did see part of that. I did not realize that I didn't hear about the part where she says, i don't want to wear it if I don't look sexy.
00:22:50
Speaker
And then I can't believe you said I'm sexy. Like, if he had said no. I don't think she would have taken that very well. Right. Well, um there's a clip also where they did a raffle for the crew, and like in between sets, be in between takes. And the character that play the sorry the actor that plays Blake's character when she was younger,
00:23:13
Speaker
She she like pulls out the name and tries to give Justin a hug, but he just gives her like a high five and beats her like at a distance. And the actress is kind of like, oh, okay, whatever. And then like these male crew guys come over and greet Justin, and he's all like hugging.
00:23:33
Speaker
So he knew what was up. Yeah. Wait, like as in that was like a... purposeful trap or just he knows not to do anything that could him. Yeah. Yeah. Because I doubt. Yeah. Okay. that That makes sense. Yeah. I think he just knows not to like hug women or just be too much whatever. But with the men he was good with like just patting on the back and everybody just kind of was okay. That's like they say Keanu is like that. Like you'll see all of his photos with people and he always has his hands behind his back. Like when in with um fans or whatever, just to be very clear of like, I'm keeping my hands to myself. I'm Keanu Reeves. so
00:24:15
Speaker
Well, Keanu's been around since the ninety s so he knows yeah things can get rewritten just by intimate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is interesting going back to Epstein stuff, because just thinking about that, it's like, OK, so you said with Blake, like showing more context to what was said and everything kind of spins it around. And so having the Epstein emails, you can see the full trail of it to to get more context to see are these just salacious things that are being pulled out to sound scandalous or what? What is the full context of how they're communicating about the relationship with with Trump, but then also how they're communicating about the crazy things that they were doing with these girls and just how they treated it like it was nothing is just wild to me.
00:25:15
Speaker
Absolutely normalized. Absolutely. Oh, it's whatever. And I'm totally fine with being friends with a possible, I mean, who knows who knew about him being pedophile, but I'm going to guess a lot of them knew.
00:25:32
Speaker
And he had a lot of money and a lot of power. And so I'm going to guess that's why people were like, well, it's, you know, I'm going to overlook that.
00:25:45
Speaker
It also just kind of goes to show like how even a lot of what we were talking about last time and and what I've been seeing is in looking back at kind of the blog culture, it's like, this is no surprise to me, but like women are just not valued, you know, like we don't care. um I feel like Me Too kind of shifted things a little bit, but still it's not great. And so it's like, oh, it's just women that are being, and girls in this case with Epstein, because they were underage intentionally, that are being hurt by this. So nobody really cares about that. it's like
00:26:24
Speaker
And I think thing with the victims is that they're all from like low-income families, people that they just kind of were in need, and they use that to manipulate it. to get manipulated into this situation. Right.
00:26:38
Speaker
Because i don't know if, well, back to Blake. Yeah. She was the first people to defend Harvey Weinstein when the allegations first came out. Really? Mm-hmm. Defended him. Okay. Yeah.
00:26:50
Speaker
When the allegations came out, which were from Rose McGowan. can't remember this other actress from Triple X. But these are all like actors that brought themselves up and like traditionally auditioning, trying to get roles and climbing themselves up. But yeah, like not nepotism. They don't come from a family of wealth and means and in Hollywood already.
00:27:11
Speaker
right dependent on then people still like liking them and having connections and supporting them and somebody like harvey weinstein so like of course he would go after these ladies and not like blake because blake doesn't need the job and um actually this reminds me of there's this documentary on hbo about these wrestlers, and I think it's Ohio, where there was a the team doctor h who would, like, do these weird examinations on all the players.
00:27:49
Speaker
But he would do the examination on all these players that were on scholarships or, like, came from, like, low-income families and also being in a place of power where he's examining them and he can say whether they can play or not. So they have to, like,
00:28:05
Speaker
do what he says and he would do like ah in the documentary they'll talk about like these weird examinations he would do the lights off and these guys would have to be completely nude if they hurt their ankle oh my god yeah that's like nasser from the olympics gymnastics women's gymnastics team he did a lot of that too and it was often the girls yeah who it was sometimes their mothers would even be in the exam room with them and they were like well I didn't know he was saying that this pressure that he was applying was you know some special procedure that would help them and whatever and what do I know i don't know medical stuff and clearly if he's at this level I'm gonna defer to him oh my god that's disgusting
00:28:55
Speaker
I can't remember the title of it. I'll look it up in a limit in this in a second, but the victims, the guys actually followed the trial that you just mentioned. And that's how they understood what they had done to themselves was not right.
00:29:10
Speaker
So like years later, they all got together and they're like, this is what happened to me and whatever. So then they got together and filed lawsuit against the the college. and it's still pending they did offer to settle and i think maybe out of like the 30 or 40 victims that came forward they were offering to pay them 250 000 each but as a group they decided not to take it because they they thought if they take this money they can do it again and pay somebody ah else off. And then, but their goal was just to like have the college admit that they were wrong for not having the certain procedures in order to like have the background checks on these people that were taking care of like minors. So they were like in their late teens, early twenties.
00:29:56
Speaker
Right, and keeping them safe. that's Yeah, that's awful. And playing into that insecurity of like, well, was this my fault? And do i if I admit that it happened, what that's embarrassing. And then like, especially for men, then there's the additional homosexual element to it too, that it's like, oh my gosh, you know, wanting not wanting to admit it to other people that it might have happened to. So in the documentary, what's interesting, it wasn't until that doctor like,
00:30:25
Speaker
went after a kid who wasn't there on a scholarship and he came from money that he did that weird examination to.
Documentaries and Legal Exposure
00:30:32
Speaker
And then he brought it to the board and was like, hey, this is not right. This is what this person did. and they're like, oh, he's a Just trust what he says. And they're like, no. um And he asked, I think the school was like, oh, if this was a one-time thing, if I'm crazy, I want a letter her that, you know, nobody's ever complained about this doctor before and I'll shut up. And the college did do that.
00:30:57
Speaker
And in the thing that they've been, like in this last couple of years, they spoke to the person who wrote the letter and he was like, I was not aware. And then like, cause he was on being deposed and they're like, oh, well we have this complaint from six months prior that somebody said the same thing about the doctor, but then you wrote this letter to this other kid. And then the guy was like, well, I must've been mistaken. I really don't remember. That was 20 years ago.
00:31:21
Speaker
How can you, ah What a, what a, oh my God, how can you not remember something like that? um But that just shows the privilege and like that, that kid was so comes from a place of entitlement, but in this instance, good for him that he was like, not going to back down, you know, like that he clearly knew how to push back against the system too, to be like, no, i no, I'm not going to do this. That's not a normal thing. i want a letter. You know, it's like, yeah.
00:31:52
Speaker
Holy crap. And he was part of the thing. so the just to wrap up the story on this, the doctor actually killed himself in 2005. The or the other. the open cause They both did. At least. nasered No, this is the Ohio doctor for the wrestlers. Oh, he okay he killed himself in 2005. So like during like the these these guys like accusing the school and whatever, like the person was out. So they couldn't get any thing from him, which I guess.
00:32:22
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not having the person who did these things alive to like the defend themselves, catch themselves in the lies didn't really help these guys who are still going on with this lawsuit against the school.
00:32:33
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Because I think Nassar killed himself too, maybe? he's still alive. Okay, because I feel like this sometimes happens and then it's like, okay, great. That's nice for the rest of the people who want answers. Well, like Epstein, you know? Well, I mean... let me Maybe, maybe not. But yeah. Jury's out for me. Yeah, but right. But I mean, yeah, that they just are such cowards then that it's like, oh, I've been caught. Okay, well, I don't want to have to like answer for it or even provide that opportunity for the victims. And so I'm just going take myself out of the equation. Yeah.
00:33:13
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And then certainly after when Jacqueline, his partner, got taken into custody. Ghislaine? Yeah. Yeah. He also said if if anything happens to me or like a suicide or anything, like somebody has the list that's going to release it in case something.
00:33:34
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I didn't know that. She just released this we or like responded to a request like, oh, how are you now that you're in a less secure prison or whatever? And she was like, I'm happy. It's like, no, that's not how this should be. Oh, good. We're so, yeah, wonderful. That's not what we meant when we said that maybe like there should be jail reform or prison reform.
00:34:00
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But yeah, I think this kind of thing, when it when it comes out, it's, I mean, of course it's sad and horrible. It's like it has to come out for people to then know when what they're experiencing is wrong and to know what to do. And it would have been happening anyway. So I guess don't know if it's wrong but I delight in it coming out and then like the shame and the blame and the guilt going to where it should go yeah rather than being held by victims yeah I don't know if you when last time we spoke I think I mentioned that the victims were gonna get together and start releasing names yeah I haven't seen anything pop out yet have you
00:34:52
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Releasing names? No, I didn't see. Because they weren't going to release the emails. But I'm guessing since the emails that came out, they come out they haven't really said anything. Right.
00:35:03
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Yeah, but the victim victims did say that. They're like, we know who it was. So if you guys aren't going to do it, we could. Which is such a risk to take.
00:35:14
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So the name of that documentary that I kept referring is called Surviving Ohio State. So back to sorry, so you know how like we were talking about, oh, it's been a lot of female victims.
00:35:25
Speaker
Today on somebody's post on Hollywood Insider, somebody came out where there's like there's boys in the Epstein thing. No surprise. yeah No surprise there. so But yeah, I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. I saw that this morning.
00:35:42
Speaker
So we'll see who else was in there with the boys. oh I guess it's all about the money. It's a financial operation, so they're going to do...
00:35:56
Speaker
whatever is going to be financially smart for them, I guess. Sadly. Yeah, right. Like, we don't care. probably do like Do you know if there's like a trial set for the Epstein things for next year?
00:36:13
Speaker
i don't know. Yeah, like does Gillian Maxwell have a... Well, she's already been convicted, I think, right? Okay, that I that i don't know. oh yeah. I don't see anything when it's supposed to.
00:36:29
Speaker
i do know that these aren't the Epstein files. So like the emails are different than the Epstein files and that they're still going to vote on releasing those. And especially now that the government is in back in session.
00:36:45
Speaker
i got a feeling that all that should be all the Epstein stuff is not going to like get settled until after this presidency. Yeah. Yeah, it was interesting. I was hearing something the other day where they were saying his Trump's whole kind of way that he handles scandal when it hits him is anger, deflect, distraction, and that that just hasn't worked in this case. Like people just haven't been distracted away, despite the fact that there have been plenty of other things to be distracted by. It's like the people who want to know this are like still zeroed in on it. So that's kind of fun. But it's like, this isn't working. like like you said, Charlotte, he's just melting down. yeah Like he's the one providing the most evidence against himself.
00:37:37
Speaker
I mean, like I've never seen a more guilty looking person in my life. Yeah. And especially to just do like the flip of we're going to release them. And then there's nothing in there. Who cares? Don't worry about it.
00:37:52
Speaker
oh They don't exist. I don't like when you're little and you're asking your parents like, oh, why didn't Santa come down the chimney this year? Like, oh, don't worry about it. we'll You'll find out next year.
00:38:09
Speaker
Santa will write you a letter. It's fine. Just wait. Okay. Okay, so with Ghislaine being in in prison, right? So she was also in the same prison that Elizabeth Holmes from?
00:38:23
Speaker
Yes, from ah Theranos. and Theranos, yeah. As well as Jen Shaw, who is a former Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Housewives, is in.
00:38:37
Speaker
And so that was kind of the spin that I took on this because I love my housewives. I also used to love Bachelor and Bachelorette. So I kind of started thinking about it from the lens of... man, reality TV has really taken quite a journey with the evolution or the
Reality TV and Social Media Influence
00:38:57
Speaker
renaissance. and What is that? the it's not I can't think of words.
00:39:00
Speaker
The like dawning of um social media. Because if you think about Bachelor and Bachelorette, so it was like, yes, early days of reality television, but these people were not celebrities by any means. And so when Bachelor started, it was kind of just like, these girls in like really bad outfits and no low production value and, Oh, what an interesting experience it'll be. And then it turned into kind of more of a, Oh, well you want to be the one to the, you want to be the winner and, and really only the winners would maybe get highlighted on Us us Weekly or People Magazine.
00:39:40
Speaker
Nobody else from the show would be featured. And then it kind of became you wanted to be the runner up because then that meant that you would be able to be chosen as the next season's bachelor or bachelorette.
00:39:54
Speaker
And maybe you wanted to be a villain because you'd get a little more time after the fact. But with social media, then it became all about, A, being able to get all of these spinoff ah opportunities. Like they've just become influencers. They have entire careers based out of it. They have podcasts that they...
00:40:16
Speaker
have launched or other shows that they've gone on to do and making so much money that you don't want to be the one that wins. Because think of thinking through like when we had Hannah Brown season, she and Jed ended up together. Nobody thinks about Jed anymore.
00:40:34
Speaker
And Hannah Brown has done okay for herself. But thinking about Tyler Cameron, he was, he dated a Hadid, you know? I mean, like, he is incredibly, incredibly popular. And so he was able to kind of make this social media career for himself and and become such a, like, rising star. But I was thinking about the season of, there was a season of Bachelor in Paradise.
00:41:04
Speaker
where Piper and Brandon came on and they had known each other before ahead of time, but they didn't come onto the beach at the same time. So Brandon was there first and he kind of like led this girl on so that he could keep stay on the beach until Piper came. And when people found that out, there was an entire web website dedicated to watching their social media following plummet. Like it was a daily count. And I was like obsessed with it because I was so mad at them. I'm like, they came on to this show. They already knew each other. They just wanted to get followers. Oh, my God, I can't believe it. And I'd like go on daily and be like, Oh, good, their numbers have gone down. Oh, good, their numbers have gone down. And it's like wild to think that that was just a few years ago.
00:41:54
Speaker
No, it was several years ago. And just how much that shifted now where it's like they all came into The Bachelor in Paradise this past season. knowing each other, knowing of each other, having a sense of who they wanted to meet ahead of time, that it's all about, you know, their persona online and what their followers want from them, all about content. So it's it's really amazing how much that's shifted to the point where I feel like The show is now on hiatus, but I don't see how it could continue on with it being the way that it is because of social media. Right.
00:42:33
Speaker
And how they're always talking about like people coming on for the right reasons. And now that's not even how can that be an expectation? We all know their reasons. Yeah.
00:42:43
Speaker
Yeah. And it's smart because it's like one of you 30 are going to end up with the guy. And um so few people have actually ended in long term relationships that really you'd be silly. Whereas all of you could go on to have a career. So that should be your focus. You know, I think about grocery store Joe, who was let go night one of his season on Bachelorette. And yet he has gone on to like marry someone from Bachelor in Paradise. He has ah that called a podcast. you know like He's made an entire career and that's strictly from social media. He was on Dancing with the Stars.
00:43:23
Speaker
Yeah. he from Chicago? Yeah. yeah
00:43:29
Speaker
He is so cute. It is crazy how The Bachelor has evolved from like, oh, it's a dating show to now it's just like a platform to present myself so that I can be a celebrity or have followers so that I can move on to the next show like bachelor in paradise. And then all these other reality shows, like, I don't know if you've seen the traders on NBC. So a bunch of people from bachelor paradise show up there and other reality shows like real housewives and some people from real world are in there too. So like that show. Cause it's a lot of people that I've seen.
00:44:03
Speaker
the last one years. So it's nice to like kind of catch up with friends on tv Yes. And also see how they get along with your other friends. It's almost like a wedding where you're like, oh my God, that friend and this friend I've never met before, but they've been my friends for so long and they're getting along. Like CT and Phaedra. So CT from the challenge and Phaedra from Real Housewives of Atlanta. And then she was on Married to Medicine and now is back on Atlanta. They were buddies. And I was like, this amazing.
00:44:31
Speaker
Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought that they'd get together, but they did. But what I also love is Pilot Pete was on a season of The Traitors, and he was a total dud. And I was like, yes, that's that's accurate. Pilot Pete from The Bachelor? Yeah.
00:44:49
Speaker
okay The new season Traitors is starting in January, and Lysarina is supposed to be in it. Oh, she's going to be good. um I also watch Real Housewives from the Beverly Hills. And I always get the one confused that you mentioned. It's the one with Mary and Angie. at Salt Lake City. Yeah.
00:45:12
Speaker
So I'm all caught up with that one. But I am excited to see Lisa Rinna on something like Traitors because the show is about being manipulative, covering your own, but just trying to make it to the finals.
00:45:24
Speaker
What is the, yeah, what's the premise of that show? I have never watched Real Housewives, so but I think I know the premise of that. But like, what's the Trader's premise? So the Trader is a show that was originally based off of, I think it's the UK. And they were bringing random people, people I've never met.
00:45:41
Speaker
and i think maybe like a group of 20 people, and the host would pick like two traitors. And it's kind of like, i don't know if there was like a wolf and like town people game where like at the end of the night, the traitors will murder somebody. And the next day, the people who survived, who were the faithfuls, have to vote on who they think the traitor was and why they killed the person who is not here today.
00:46:07
Speaker
So they're basically just playing that game that you play at parties. forget what it's called. Assassin or something like that. but Yeah. It's just like reality stars playing Assassin on TV. Yeah. yeah And then they have like, it's so funny because they'll have. So the first season that they did in the US, s it was.
00:46:26
Speaker
half normal people and half celebrities. I'm putting both in quotes. So it was an interesting kind of mix of things and and familiarity with television and whatever else. But they also do challenges during the day. And it it doesn't really make sense. Like,
00:46:46
Speaker
The challenge doesn't really play into anything. You're not really sure how that, but it's just kind of like takes up time and that maybe the the trader could be like sabotaging the group in the challenge. So you might be like, well, they were really bad at that swim out to that, you know, buoy. I think they're the traitor. But really, like, it is so ridiculous because there's no, there are no real clues to figure out who the traitors are. So it's all just crazy speculation.
00:47:20
Speaker
One person just puts out a name and so then everybody else jumps on that because they just don't want it to be them. Wild speculation. It's it's brilliant. and um And the best part is that it takes place in a castle in Scotland and the host is Alan Cummings and his outfits are spectacular. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. So the thing about the the games that they do every day, they always have like, I forgot forgot what they're called some sort of like metal that gives you immunity for that day. So the the killers can't kill you that night. So everybody tries to get that. And if if there's ever anybody who didn't try hard enough, they're like, oh, they didn't try hard enough to save themselves because they knew they weren't going to get murdered because they are the killers.
00:48:09
Speaker
It's like all of those like head games, you know, where you're like, well, they didn't want that. And so, of course, they didn't want it because they're the traitor. But are they pretending that they're the they didn't want it so that they think that we think that they're the traitor? That, you know, it's like, oh, my God, what? why Wow. Wow. Yeah. It's really good. Yeah.
00:48:27
Speaker
And the big breakout star from last season was Dylan Efron. And that's Zac Efron's little brother who went on to do Dancing with the Stars. Yeah. So they're pretty much all these shows are just platforms to just keep going.
00:48:43
Speaker
ah Yeah. It was interesting. Cause he's not a celebrity in any way. It's just like his celebrity is that he's the brother. yeah um It's kind of overwhelming to think like, okay, if I were to like, try to understand who some of the people are, like, I'd have to know a lot about different shows that have so many seasons and so many episodes. Yeah.
00:49:08
Speaker
But it's probably, i think it's just probably entertaining on its own, even if you don't know who these people are, because they're on there for a reason. They're entertaining. um If you ever watched the first season where they had, well, the first US version, the season where they had the mixed regular people with celebrities, the there was a survivor person who won the show, but she also like convinced like the regular people that she wasn't an assassin, they should have like an alliance. And one of the regular people was this person who wanted to have the operation to trans, because they were transgendered.
00:49:47
Speaker
So they were counting on that money to win, to like have the operation. And then at the end, the survivor contestant, sorry yeah, she ended up winning the whole show and kept the whole money and was like, oh, it was, it's a game guys. Don't take it personal.
00:50:02
Speaker
But this poor, like regular person who thought was like, oh going to be friends with this person and help them with their surgery and the money just kind of like left a bad taste in my, in my mouth. And think that's why they switched it to like just all celebrities.
00:50:17
Speaker
yeah Yeah, because it was Ari from The Bachelor was one of the finals, Sari and two regular people. And Ari outed himself partially because...
00:50:33
Speaker
And Suri was using these tactics of being like, he already has a ton of money. And look at that. He's the he's the traitor, which he was. The two of them were traitors. And she was basically like saying, you know, he's a traitor and he's going to just steal our money from us. And he already has so much money. I don't know why he should do this. And he's like, you know what? You're right. I'm going to remove myself. So she manipulated him into feeling bad enough that he like outed himself as a traitor. And then she convinced them that she wasn't. So they were all going to split the money. And instead, because they believed her, she took it all.
00:51:07
Speaker
So like to go that extra step. And she's one survivor once, at least, I think. She played Big Brother Celebrity once. Or maybe even regular celebrity.
00:51:19
Speaker
Well, no, I think she was a celebrity. a Yeah. And her son was just on Big Brother two seasons ago. So I don't know. It's just I agree with you that it had to be that you do it that way. Because if you're just keeping that money for yourself and you already have money, it's like, oh, disgusting. Yeah. I could see it leaving a bad taste. Yeah. By the way, I just got that the name of the show is T-R-A-I-T-O-R-S. I definitely, for most of this conversation, thought it was T-R-A-D-E-R-S. Like they're just trading. They were like trading. oh it's It was my accent. It's the same word. Did you say it's on like MSNBC or something? Did I hear that? That's probably why.
00:52:04
Speaker
Peacock. Okay. Okay. I heard MSNBC. I'm like, well, there's to be something about stocks. So when do the stocks come in? Like I'm waiting. Like, oh. my God.
00:52:20
Speaker
Yeah, so I know we're getting, we're going long, but the only other thing I was just going to mention was obviously i watch a lot of Bravo. So the thing that's interesting now is how often people on social media, on those casts, will reveal information about what's going on in their real lives or, you know, post-recording. So, for example, Scandaval.
00:52:44
Speaker
So when the whole... cheating scandal came to light for Sandoval had cheated on his partner Ariana Maddox of 10 years. Who?
Scandals and Legal Troubles in Entertainment
00:52:55
Speaker
and that Sandoval? Yeah, sorry, Tom Sandoval. So this Vanderpump Rules was a show on Bravo and he was a spinoff of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills where they followed him.
00:53:06
Speaker
Lisa Vanderpump has a couple of different restaurants in Beverly Hills. It followed her restaurant employees for many years. Tom Sandoval was one of them. And he even they started a bar. Lisa opened a bar with him and his best friend Tom Schwartz and called it Tom Tom. And so they became like characters of themselves. So he had been dating Ariana Maddox for 10 years. They were life partners. They lived together. you know, all of all of that stuff. But after the wrap of one of the shows or yeah, really after one of the seasons, it came out that he was cheating on Ariana with another one of the cast members who was like her quote unquote best friend on the show and was also a recently ex-fiance with another person on the show.
00:53:56
Speaker
James Kennedy, who is a total D-bag and the worst person in the world. But so Raquel, whose actual name is Rachel, she was cheating with with Sandoval. And so it came out. And so then there was this whole resurgence of like.
00:54:14
Speaker
Well, not resurgence, but there was this so much interest in watching the show because it had all been recording prior to it coming out, but it was the months leading up to it coming out. So it was like... People were watching the show who had never watched the show before with the lens of, are we going to be able to see what was going on? What was really happening? Oh, my gosh. When they said that they were here, were they really together cheating and all of that? So there was just so much more interest in it because... information that we knew outside of the recording was aware, was available to us via social media. So that was one instance. But so much of that happens, you know, where it's like, oh my gosh, Wendy Osefo from Real Housewives of Potomac, she was just arrested or charged, I shouldn't say arrested, but um with insurance fraud and conspiracy to commit insurance fraud. making a false statement to police officers. So this just came out right when the Real Housewives of Potomac season was on so episode two of this season. So all of the season has already wrapped filming, but we're all watching it through this lens of, oh my gosh, you know, here she's talking about, I just want to get my bag and blah, blah, blah, blah. And, you talking about her um husband's company, you know, Happy Eddie, which is a cannabis line, but knowing and kind of cringing because it's like, oh my God, you are about to get charged with insurance fraud, you know? So just having that kind of lens while watching it and being aware of
00:55:56
Speaker
of what's happening is both incredibly interesting and kind of a bummer because i oftentimes want to be able to watch the season and then get surprised with what happened not know it months ahead and then be catching up to it while watching my shows i get it so That's kind of how like the traders is you get real life time, like real life, what they're seeing and then what the insiders know.
00:56:25
Speaker
So you see everything. But yeah, with the real housewives, it's always like you find out before the season and you watch everything on the road. And because they're aware of what the audience thinks of them through social, they kind of will sometimes try to adjust their personality or their storylines based on, well, this is what the audience wants from me or this is what they think of me and I want to change my reputation with them. And so they they make adjustments. So it's interesting to also feel like we are almost a silent producer in some ways on these shows. It sounded like you were describing Lisa Barlow.
00:57:03
Speaker
Yeah. this last is With her. <unk> So Lisa Barlow is one of the Real Housewives from Salt Lake. And she has been on the show for a few years. And she's one of those characters that...
00:57:17
Speaker
Well, she is a character on the show that she presents to be everybody's friends, but she's always digging up dirt. Things will come out in the media and all the friends are like, this is very specific. These are things that like we've mentioned in this group only specific words that have been used in like whatever outlet. And they're always confronting her and she's always denying it And she's always playing the victim and then always going on social media being like, oh, no, this is me. yeah I'm everybody's best friend.
00:57:50
Speaker
And I eat ah lots of fast food. So you guys like me, right? I'm regular. there was They were playing a game or they were like, oh, who's Lisa Barlow's best friend? And somebody was like, Ben Affleck. is All season she's been dropping names on how like her life is so different from everybody else because she deals with A-listers and she was in Cannes with Ben Affleck and Blake Lively. And Blake Lively. Yeah.
00:58:17
Speaker
I was like, oh, you might want to take that one back, Lisa. Really great. And they were just on a yacht. So they had like a crossover with another show that's on Bravo that's called Below Deck.
00:58:29
Speaker
And so they were on this yacht with that cast and crew because they had met each other at like probably BravoCon, which is like happening now, actually, this big, you know, conference convention of Bravo celebrities and and fans. um And so...
00:58:49
Speaker
Heather Gay, which is one of the women on Real Housewives, she was like, oh, Captain Jason invited us to come on his yacht. And you're like, no, he didn't. But this is great. You know, so now we get to see all of our like favorite people come together, you know, in an episode.
00:59:04
Speaker
Just hearing about it from the ah you know from not knowing like mostly everything is really stressing me out. There's so there so much and so many. And and then they started BravoCon, so like Comic-Con, but like for reality, i feeling very
BravoCon and Celebrity Access
00:59:22
Speaker
overwhelmed. I know, like I know, as you said.
00:59:25
Speaker
How do they do it? until i mean And it's how do we keep up i mean Yes, how do you up? yeah And then again, like at the same time, if you have like your comic book universe, like you care, you know, you keep up with that. And it's easy because it's like you're into it. It's kind of like you got to get into your like entry point.
00:59:46
Speaker
Yeah. But you can only have so many because, because, yeah, I feel like, you know, it's going to have to be going to have to be the Epstein files and the and NBA for me. And then. There's only so much room left in my brain.
01:00:01
Speaker
right its Right. Yeah, we all choose our things. And you chose those. And I'll choose Bravo, all things Bravo. Like my parents will be like, and so are you watching any good shows? And I'll be like, nope, just still all my housewives. Yeah. Nothing I would ever recommend to anybody, but I love, although I did recommend Salt Lake to Javi. I was like, you have to, because when he told me he got into Beverly Hills, finally, when Kathy Hilton came on, I was like, oh, okay, you you need Salt Lake then, because their seasons are amazing every year.
01:00:35
Speaker
but Can we all go to BravoCon together sometime? Oh, I would love to. I've never been, but I would love to. Yay! Okay, then I can catch up, you know? ah yeah They do a lot of meet and greets and there's always like people interviewing just people.
01:00:53
Speaker
so They do panels like where it's it's great. like Two of my favorite podcasts, they're going to be doing panels with the Next Gen NYC because now there's a spinoff of kids of people on these reality shows.
01:01:13
Speaker
So like, um, Teresa, Brooks, Marks and Gia. Yep. Um, so yeah. the And then the other one, I can't remember who they're doing the panel with, but yeah. i'm And it's in, out it's, um, in Las Vegas now. it used to be New York and then they moved it to Las Vegas. So it'd be close for, well, kind of both of you.
01:01:35
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah.
01:01:40
Speaker
I say this is a good goal. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Resolution. but You have to watch every show on Bravo for the next nine months. We'll prioritize. for Yes. it's Yes. Tell me the the best ones to start with. Like maybe just make a little, little flow chart for me. Best, best series. And then of those, the best seasons, because they're not all created equal by any means. Yeah.
01:02:04
Speaker
Okay, good. ah That'll be my personal homework. Okay. My favorite line from the Real Housewives from Salt Lake City is Whitney. Whenever she talks to Heather, her, ah is it twang or her accent really comes out?
01:02:18
Speaker
Oh my God. Where she'll be like, Heather, control your feelings. No, no, Javi, it's feelings. Yeah. It's such a big deal. I'm on a hulling journey. Yeah.
01:02:33
Speaker
She was on a healing journey one season. And so everything was, I'm on a, I'm hulling. I'm just really hulling from my family trauma. want to start with that one. It's not a big deal. It's just not a big deal. She always has conflict with Lisa Barlow and her thing is like Lisa fucking Barlow.
01:02:55
Speaker
And she's usually in a bikini when she says that. No matter what the what the weather, what the circumstance. she also um whit Whitney Wildrose also this year, her she has two kind of minor storylines. The first is she dyed her hair red and it's really poorly done. Um, but she did that because her daughter, Bobby, has red hair and gets bullied. So she wants to be a redhead with her. And then the second is that she she started, like, and yet another company, which was basically an MLM, but she won't say it And she stole like images allegedly from Alibaba for like the jewelry that was posted and stuff like that. And they went bankrupt. So that's her other. She's like, I tried and I failed.
01:03:49
Speaker
i yeah Oh, well, so pretty great. Accessibility wise. Oh, yeah. right It's I mean, it feels very accessible and like, especially nowadays, you don't even have to subscribe to a magazine.
01:04:09
Speaker
No, or even a blog or anything. Yeah, no, you're right. It is so accessible to get celebrity gossip. Yeah. And watch the highlights on Instagram. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. You don't even have to watch shows anymore.
01:04:25
Speaker
it's It's accessible and it's overwhelming. So I was going to say inaccessible, but it's just overwhelming in that there are so many celebrities. Like, it is hard to keep up. Yeah, you got to choose who you you care. Because there's plenty of celebrities that I am never going to care about or I just won't be able to bring myself to.
01:04:47
Speaker
to retain any information about them. And then yeah there's some who every single thing they do, I'm going to want to know. Yeah, that's true. And then um we had brought up our lowest score when we met with Molly. So o what was it again? Level of integration score.
01:05:09
Speaker
Yes. So the likeliness that this will actually be like integrated into my life. And I think we did like from one to a hundred. And so this is definitely a hundred for me. Like celebrity gossip. It's, it's, oh yeah. It's, it's a part of me.
01:05:30
Speaker
I think, I think for me, it's. It remains to be seen. The Blake Lively, so ah Ryan Reynolds, Justin Baldoni stuff, that's going to be high.
01:05:43
Speaker
Epstein, high. High. But um some of those websites, I was like going on them and they they are just... A lot. A lot to take. So I have to kind of pick and choose how I'm, like, getting the information. So I'm going to say it's probably more like a 50 for me.
01:06:06
Speaker
But we're going to see. Situational for you. Like, if it's the right thing, you'll go. but But I do want to say that I would love and this I would I would hate it and love it but like some sort of reality show at that prison that Ghislaine and ah what's her name Elizabeth Holmes and Jen Shaw yeah yeah are at. But I would not want them to get more, you know.
01:06:34
Speaker
Right. If they don't get any of the money. Like right maybe the money goes into like prisoners. To other prisons. Yeah. Getting puppies, you know. I will warn you, there are ah quite a few prison.
01:06:46
Speaker
And of course, I know that the interest is those specific people. But there are quite a few prison reality shows like Love After Lockup, 60 Days In. So just a warning. And I do not recommend. But anyways. Oh, no, there are.
01:07:04
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Oh, can I bring it back to like when we started talking at the very beginning where were like, oh, Hilary Duff. And I was like, oh, she has new music. So it was on the news that Hilary Duff's new single has been blasting at the jail where...
01:07:22
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the guy from Tiger King is. No. yeah So he still has a Twitter, even though he's in jail. And he put it in there.
01:07:33
Speaker
Do you have computer time, I guess? I don't know. But he tweeted out there that he loves Hilary Dove's new single and that everybody at the jail is bopping to it. so for The endorsement she was hoping for, I'm sure.
01:07:50
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yeah How does this go with your ah pub plan? Publicity? Marilyn Monroe would go see the troops. Hilary Duff will be the one to go see the prisoners and perform for them. At Christmas.
01:08:04
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um Well, thank you for bringing us this delightful topic, Javier. Thank you for having me again. Let me talk about what people don't want to listen to it anymore.
01:08:15
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