Introduction and Weekend Recap
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nextguyup
What is up, everybody? Welcome to the Next Guy Up podcast. We are here on a Monday. It has been an awesome weekend of football. ah We hit the Next Guy Up parlay, UT Smasher, Oklahoma.
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nextguyup
ah There was chaos in the NFL and college football all weekend long. So we are here to break down what happened. Give out our next guy of the week award ah we're not gonna be talking about the Josh Allen of the week this episode because Happening tonight if you're listening on Monday night, so boys big weekend Congrats, we all nailed our parlay legs Other things we we we did pretty well in the discord this weekend, but it's been a fun weekend of football I have not done much other than sit around eat wings and watch football Pretty nice weekend
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Zack
Hmm. Sounds pretty nice.
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Mason
pretty nice. Listen, I might change doing an NFL pick because if you guys end up getting yours correct on Saturday, I have a lot of pressure and mine was not an easy,
Titans' Quarterback Struggles
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Mason
theirs were easy to cash if anybody is not aware.
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Mason
Zach had UT minus seven
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Mason
And then, uh, old miss minus what was it? 30, 30, 35.
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Mason
Okay. And there, that seems like a lot of points, but they, I was not very nervous about either of those watching the games, but this one, the lines minus two and a half, a little nervous there all the way down to the end of the.
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Mason
The end, but listen, I was thinking about taking college football picks, but also I might just focus on college football because being an NFL fan right now.
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Mason
For a particular team, is ah it's tough in these streets. Wouldn't you say, Zach?
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Zack
That's a fact yeah, we had the game on I did not go well it was it
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Mason
and za Yeah, yep. Mm-mm.
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Zack
The Will Levis experiment, you have to feel like he's coming close to something.
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nextguyup
Coming to a close Yeah, you know I think the Titans could have used maybe like a switch at quarterback a guy who could run a little maybe like a Malik Willis type quarterback ah It'd be it'd be really great if you guys had a guy like that on the roster.
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Zack
um Something's got to happen. He did not look very good today. um It's almost, I can't wait for him to go and just be incredible with another NFL franchise at some point, so.
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Mason
Who else would do something like that? Maybe wearing green today.
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Mason
I've not had a good two weeks of me ripping will not well that too, but Malik Willis and doubting him.
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Mason
I lost some bets on it.
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Mason
Uh, it was so bad of a take that I threw up. Uh, and then this week I could have actually threw up this weekend with how bad, uh, that game went.
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Mason
So it's just, it's been a, I'm here recording though. Didn't
Betting Insights and Strategies
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Mason
make me sick, but it could have of how bad that game.
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Zack
It's very brave Mason.
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Mason
It's tough. Thank you. Thank you. No, but, uh, Tinsley, uh, his game, we don't get to talk about, unfortunately, but I feel like, and this wasn't in the, in the topics, but I feel like i'm we're going to get one of two Tinsleys and it's going to be, if they go 0 and 3, he's going to want to blow it up, fire everybody. If they had, if they go 1 and 2, there's hope.
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Mason
And you if you give Tinsley hope, which I've seen when they've played against the Chargers, all it took was ah them to have a little bit of a comeback. And and Tinsley with hope is a dangerous seed. hey you He needs it at this point.
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nextguyup
Yeah, um let's just say there might be plans in my head that if we win tomorrow night, I might be in Houston next Sunday.
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Mason
How long of a drive is that?
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Zack
I mean, that's the positive one.
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nextguyup
12 hours and 48 minutes.
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Zack
No, that's not bad. That's the positive of playing the AFC South is there's a bunch of games against some pretty bad teams at this point. And the like the Colts and Titans, you're going to play four games there.
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Mason
Oh, he already looked it up.
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Zack
And then, I mean, Texans are pretty good, but they've shown they have some flaws.
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nextguyup
Yeah, they had some flaws today.
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Zack
So there's, there's plenty of opportunity still. Titans might be tanking at this point in the season.
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Zack
They've played some kind of mediocre teams and it looks pretty bad.
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nextguyup
What I have to keep telling myself is what I told all listeners at the beginning of week one. I said, take these first four weeks, take some, you know it's it's a filling out process, find some features on division winners if with a team that maybe starts out slow. I think I was talking to future 10s because the Jags have obviously started out slow. ah Our division odds right now are like plus 600.
High-Profile Game Analysis
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nextguyup
It might be time to sprinkle it right now because if we win tomorrow, it's going to cut in half. We win next week against the Texans. It's going to be. Right back where.
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Mason
Do you really think so? Cause all, all the teams lost. So you don't think that's moved at all with you guys still having hopes of winning and being the only team AFC South team to win.
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Mason
I'm looking it up right now. I'll find it on here.
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nextguyup
Texans won their first two games and today's loss against the Vikings was an additive out of conference games so It doesn't hurt them in the division and we're we're six point underdog tomorrow.
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nextguyup
So It I would assume the books are factoring and that we're gonna lose tomorrow um So our our division odds should be about the same. Maybe not maybe I'm wrong Until tomorrow after the game, yeah
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Mason
I don't see it on here. It might be closed until these games are over yet. Okay.
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nextguyup
So yeah, but yeah, I know there'll be I'm sure there'll be a tick tock one way or the other Yeah, it's X Yeah, I mean if we go in three then I don't even want to make the playoffs at that point.
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Mason
Owen three, remember what we said? Only one team has done it. We got to the playoffs.
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Mason
and to that Yeah, Texas 2018, so.
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nextguyup
Give me Clint Kubiak
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Mason
That's all he's rooting for. Oh man. Okay. So we want to keep.
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Zack
Yeah, we have a lot of action to get to.
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Mason
Yeah. Yeah. We really do.
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Zack
We've we had a huge week in college there. It was After a pretty lackluster week last week, I feel like our, especially the mid afternoon game of the college were pretty exciting. There was a handful of games that all came down to it. ah We had a pretty good game on Friday night as well. And so there's a lot of it. There's a lot of college action and I'm excited to get to it. We just want to jump into this boys.
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nextguyup
Yeah, let's dive on in.
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Zack
right We're going to use our categories today to have some conversation about all of the NFL and college action. So our first category of the day is upset of the week. Upset of the week. 10s, what did you have there? Upset of the week.
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nextguyup
Pulling it up because I can't remember off the top of my head.
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nextguyup
There's so much football. It's loading. Okay, I had the Denver Broncos beating the Bucks.
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nextguyup
This Denver Broncos team started out the season looking pretty bad. Bo Nix hadn't looked good up to this point and then they go into Tampa Bay as a seven point underdog.
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nextguyup
Most bet on team to today was the Buccaneers to cover the spread.
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nextguyup
And not only do they win, but they win convincingly. I think final score is 26 to 7. Bonyx was running around using his legs a lot, not not turn the ball over like he had been. um And the Bucks I think just kind of came out flat.
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nextguyup
And I don't know, they just look like this is a game they thought they were going to easily win. And maybe they weren't as prepared as they should have been. But this was a team that was starting to get some hype about, oh, are they one of the top teams in the NFC?
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nextguyup
And then they just kind of come and come out and fall on their face. That was a little embarrassing.
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Mason
So real quick, I have two um bold predictions. I want to go ahead and do one of them now while we're talking about the Broncos. So if the Broncos actually keep winning games and Jayden and then Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniels are losing games and Caleb Williams was a favorite going in and he's actually dropped and I know there's wide receivers on this list as well and I want to go over it but Bo mix and Bo nix at plus 1500 to win off offensive rookie of the year is my bold prediction right now if
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Mason
He keeps us going this going. You want to take flyers, right? You don't want to take like favorites because if you want to take something that like literally plus 100, Caleb Williams at plus 100, which is what it was, now it's at plus 700.
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Mason
You literally lost 600. You're getting worse odds now. and I don't know if we're going to end up talking about his performance or not. Congrats. He finally got his first throwing touchdown in week three.
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Zack
Where's my boy, Jayden Daniels?
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Zack
Where's Jayden Daniels on that list?
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Mason
So Jayden Daniels is plus 320. The wide receivers, which it can happen, don't get me wrong, I'm just saying we always look at the quarterbacks, but Marvin Harrison Jr.
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Zack
Ooh, I got money on that.
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Mason
is at plus 220 and Malik Nabors, which he had a heck of a game. I want to talk about here a little bit. ah He's at plus 220 as well, so they're tied. And you got Bo Nix down here at plus 1500, the same as Brock Bowers, the tied in for the Raiders.
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Mason
so I like the light flower if he keeps like a light flyer pick if he keeps like rushing a couple touchdowns getting some wins, which he did today. It's not a bad dart throw there.
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nextguyup
No, I agree with that. That's yeah, that would be now would be the time to do that. It's plus 1500 because the other two quarterbacks haven't been convincing so far.
00:09:36
Mason
Because if you. And I know Jane Daniels plays there's a double header tonight, everybody, for those that are not aware.
00:09:48
Mason
on the Monday night, because they usually do it week one. It's week three. they got Zach looks like he didn't know. But Commander's at the Bengals and Jag's at the Bills.
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Mason
So we'll we'll know if the Commander's going to pull out a win or not. So we'll see.
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Mason
Zach, you're upset?
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Zack
OK, my upset of the week um was a big 10 matchup that we talked about on the pod.
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Zack
This would be Illinois at Nebraska, a huge we talked about it as a really big time big 10 matchup, and it turned out to be ah a good game. And you're fighting a lion.
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Zack
I am Brett Bilema. are looking pretty good, pretty good. Altmaier the quarterback looks solid, beating a good Nebraska team on the road at a pretty ah hostile road environment.
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Zack
Illinois, all of a sudden, they have a they have some tough matchups down the road, but their path to a playoff is all of a sudden looking a little better. And they've looked good so far. And so ah Illinois pulled up a big upset and they are rising in the rankings. So fun game.
College Football Standings and Predictions
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Mason
You know how you have your system play, Zach?
00:11:02
Mason
I might do like a system play, but just with boost, but because anytime there's a 50% boost on DraftKings or any of these betting, it's always like you want to go the favorites, right tens. Didn't you take a didn't you take Nebraska and with the boost there?
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Mason
And I also want to take and I didn't and I was like, what if I get it? I think Illinois was like plus two something like 250 or something money line. I was like, what if I did that with the boost? I might just start taking underdogs with the boost and see if that ends up paying out anything.
00:11:31
nextguyup
That is, yeah, it's like eve EV betting.
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Mason
Could be a system play.
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nextguyup
josa Josh has talked about that before. That's what he does. You just, cause it's worth it better. The boost is, it's more worth it to bet that way if there's an upset. Cause it's already, you know, plus money and then you add in a boost and it makes it even more plus money.
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nextguyup
So that makes sense.
00:11:55
nextguyup
But yeah, I wonder if you did it for all the prime time games. You just took the underdog like Wonder how profitable that would be Because you only have to hit right just like one or two So the thing about I did have the Panthers today they had a hundred percent boost on Fandul and I Know some people had him.
00:12:03
Mason
Maybe we could start week four.
00:12:09
Zack
Yeah, because it's been pretty big payouts.
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Mason
Something to think about. and There you go.
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Zack
Something to think about. Yeah.
00:12:20
Mason
It paid up. It is pretty good.
00:12:22
nextguyup
I know some people had Raiders minus five and a half.
00:12:24
Mason
Man, what a tough, what a tough break. Hey, I hit that par leg, like that's all that matters.
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Zack
That's all that matters, guys.
00:12:30
nextguyup
That's true. That's all that matters.
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Mason
Okay. So my upset, uh, I know this isn't going to be like a flashy, like big upset because do we really even know if the Browns are good, but you're going, uh, the giants. I predicted that maybe Daniel Jones would get benched.
00:12:46
Mason
They're going into Cleveland and they pull out the win 21 to 15. Daniel Jones does not have a turnover. Uh, he threw over 200 yards, two touchdowns, both of those going to Malik neighbors. So that is my upset for the NFL this week.
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Mason
Oh, we don't really know if the Browns are good is what he's looking at.
00:13:09
Mason
He's like, was it really an upset? I don't even remember the point spread favorite. Okay.
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nextguyup
No, I just, this isn't a Jaguar podcast, but we lost to the Browns and they're terrible and we somehow lost. And the giant Daniel Jones looked amazing against them.
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nextguyup
So was just just reopening in old wounds for me.
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Zack
You're trying to get over that, Mason.
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Mason
I'm sorry. All right.
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Zack
um Okay, next up we have Disappointment of the week disappointment of the week um tens. What do you got here?
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nextguyup
Yeah, so Baylor, I was all over this Baylor team just because I knew Colorado had big heads because they checks notes, beat up on Colorado State, a lot of hype doing so.
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nextguyup
um So I took my shot and said, okay, I think Baylor is going to come in and win this game. ah They controlled the second half, they're doing everything they were supposed to do.
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nextguyup
No time left on the clock and you allow a Hail Mary to get hit like I don't know just the the the fact that you played prevent defense and this happened last I mean we could talk about it with the the Falcons against the Eagles last Monday night game ah Or whatever game that was their game where they just play pre prevent defense And then you let them get all the way down the field and chunk plays and they beat you I hate prevent defense.
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nextguyup
I think it's the dumbest way to play just play normal um So yeah, my disappointment of the week was Baylor giving up that lead. You you let him hit a 40 something yard hail Mary to tie the game and then you lose in overtime.
00:14:52
nextguyup
It was very tough.
00:14:53
Zack
um And then the Colorado, to to finish the story, the Colorado fans stormed the field before it's even called the game over while they're reviewing it because they won against Baylor, who they were favored over.
00:15:03
nextguyup
That's just embarrassing.
00:15:09
nextguyup
they were favored.
00:15:10
Mason
never got a side view by the way Conspiracy theory a side view Also, can I say I will go ahead Zach I didn't mean to hijack ah Half of them had their shirts off
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nextguyup
it's We didn't.
00:15:11
Zack
Like, I just don't...
00:15:15
Zack
You never got a what?
00:15:17
nextguyup
We never got the, yeah.
00:15:22
Zack
Yeah, I was just going to say Colorado fans are the worst. um They were so close to falling off the bandwagon um after that big loss they had.
00:15:32
Zack
Now people are starting to come back now because it was an exciting game against a pretty bad team. And all of a sudden, they won another game, big game at home. And Travis Hunter had a big play. And Sugar Sanders has a big game winning touchdown.
00:15:43
Zack
All of a sudden, everyone's back on Colorado. they were so We were so close
Quarterback Performances and Adjustments
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Zack
to being done with him.
00:15:50
nextguyup
They were we we almost had the final nail in their coffin and then Baylor had to go and show their colors.
00:15:53
Zack
They were cooked. Ah, Jeff. So close.
00:15:58
Mason
Do we want to talk about the part where Tinsley was like, got a sweep on the board today and I thought ah Baylor got a dub.
00:16:06
nextguyup
Yeah, because so my best bet and my parlay leg were in college and so was Zach. So I was like, oh, it's going to come down the mason tomorrow on the NFL for a parlay sweep for the graphic that we put out.
00:16:18
nextguyup
And then because the last thing I had saw was that Shador Sanders got sacked, ah the that the clock ran out. but they So I was like, okay, that game's over. Well, apparently he has somehow got the ball off before he got sacked.
00:16:32
nextguyup
And so that let him have one more play. And then that play was the Hail Mary.
00:16:39
nextguyup
Because DraftKings even had it closed.
00:16:41
nextguyup
They showed it was over.
00:16:43
nextguyup
Yeah. So I was like, oh, cool. I won. I am smart.
00:16:47
Zack
That's disgusting. Yeah, we had it. We we had the for no sweep yesterday. Okay.
00:16:53
Mason
okay I don't know if we want to do this now or later Yeah, i'll go I didn't put it on there, but I I got this it's because I didn't want to type it out But will levis is my disappointment of the week
00:16:54
Zack
My biggest disappointment. Do you want to go? Okay. What do you got?
00:17:05
Mason
If you put, if you throw up a graphic while I'm just in misery of watching this game, by the way, had no other game to turn to because it was only the Titans game. Um, I, and they throw up this graphic of seven turnovers this season. Most in the NFL for interceptions, three fumbles lost. And I was like, I want to throw up. Uh, let's flash back to where Tinsley and I are watching the draft together. And I was like.
00:17:34
Mason
thank goodness they did not draft him. And then we get to the second round and I was like, Tinsley, they're gonna, please tell me they're not gonna do it. Was I not Tinsley? I was like, I was so afraid that they were gonna do this and I did not want it.
00:17:48
Mason
And I tried to lie to myself and lie, like like tell everybody that I believe in him and it's just been a tough break and I'm sorry. But I don't know what to do about this. Someone, someone helped me. Some like, this was a disappointment. That's all. And I'm rambling on a little bit, but someone helped me. Zach, go ahead. Comfort me.
00:18:08
Zack
Hard to agree. There is no comfort here. There is no rest for the weary. ah Quarterback sucks and the season's over.
00:18:21
Mason
I blink and it's over.
00:18:22
nextguyup
um but So So what you need to start rooting for now, you really need to dive deep into your fantasy football team This is coming from a guy who who who had to watch Chad Henny be a starting quarterback Blaine Gabbard The list goes on and and on I Don't think he wants to come back um
00:18:39
Zack
I think we can sign Tannehill, maybe?
00:18:47
nextguyup
I think, yeah, dive deep into your fantasy football and then, you know, it's mock draft season. Start thinking, it start looking at who's going to be the free agent. Start looking at those guys you can get in the second and third round so you know who you're, you know, start knowing it. Start knowing it inside and out and then get ready for basketball. Basketball's coming. in You can, you can dive into that. NBA.
00:19:10
Mason
Like I said, I'm just gonna transfer my talents over to college football focus on that a little bit So we'll see but yeah That is my disappointment.
00:19:21
Mason
Let's move on. Let's just move along here. We need happier things to talk about so oh Yeah, go ahead
00:19:27
Zack
um So my disappointment of the week um is this has actually been going on since the beginning of the year. There's really three teams that that are ranked in the top 10 well until Missouri just dropped out who have literally played not a single bit of actual competition yet this season. Like not one team that even is has a heartbeat.
00:19:47
Zack
Ole Miss currently ranked number six Missouri who just dropped out to number 11 because they just Barely won a game against checks notes Vanderbilt um Should have lost if Vanderbilt hits a 25-yard field goal in overtime and it's going to a third overtime and um
00:20:07
Zack
Ohio State, who played Marshall this week. I mean, truly, Ohio State has had the worst of the schedules. They have not played a single competent opponent yet. And no one's even talking about these teams because it's not even a relevant discussion yet because they've, I mean, Tennessee has the argument that they have not played very good teams, but we've played two
Season Projections and Playoff Implications
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Zack
top 25 teams up to this point.
00:20:31
Zack
Ole Miss, Missouri, and Ohio State, none of them have even sniffed like a top 70 team, I don't think. Like, they're so bad. They're a competition so far. um I don't understand how they got away with it. If you look at Missouri's schedule for the rest of the season, Missouri has one game that's even going to be competitive probably.
00:20:50
Zack
And it's Alabama. And other than that, they play the absolute dredges of the SEC, and that is it. I don't know how Missouri ended up with this schedule. Ohio State obviously has Oregon and Michigan. They've got some they've got some games coming up. All missed us too. They played Georgia, I think. And they they have some tough games. But it's pretty lame when you're we going in into week five, and three top 10 teams haven't played a single person that you can even measure what they look like yet.
00:21:17
Zack
I don't know. That's my disappointment of the week just because it's pretty frustrating. Just be like, I i don't know if this seems good. Who knows? Missouri may be horrible and it's already week five and we don't really have a good idea yet.
00:21:30
Zack
I mean, Ole Miss has been putting up 70 points per game against like trash opponents. So yeah, that's it. That's it for me.
00:21:40
nextguyup
It's pretty good, right?
00:21:42
Zack
um Missouri may very well I made an argument at the beginning of the season that I think a two-loss SCT team is locked into the playoffs I think a Mizzou has two losses There's a good chance that they do not make the playoffs because it means they've lost a game that they were favored in for sure Even if they lose the Bama if they lose and if they if they drop the game to A and&M Or they have a game and against Arkansas, South Carolina if they drop one of those games, I think they're done Their schedule is way too soft
00:22:09
nextguyup
Yeah, they've already dropped to 11.
00:22:12
Zack
and just I mean, that was because they they almost lost the Vanderbilt. I mean, they can't influence their SEC schedule, obviously.
00:22:20
Zack
But a lot of SEC teams this year have gone out of their way to schedule some tough non-conference opponents. um And they just didn't. They just didn't even try. We talked about Ole Miss had Wake Forest, which is whatever you think about Wake Forest.
00:22:33
Zack
I don't know. and They were terrible. so There's my take.
00:22:38
Zack
That's my take. OK, moving on. um Overreaction of the week. Overreaction of the week. um I'll go first here because I'm going to get into some NFL stuff.
00:22:51
Zack
um My first overreaction of the week is that Utah ah has locked in their playoff spot with their win over Oklahoma State.
00:23:01
Zack
um Big 12 is looking exceedingly soft at this point in in time. ah Oklahoma State was thought of as probably the big Oklahoma State in Utah. I mentioned in our preview show that this is game was going to be big for Big 12. Utah, without Cam Rising,
00:23:19
Zack
who is their big playmaker in a big piece of their puzzle. They still be Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State did not look good at home. This was a pretty big, a huge win for Utah on the road, but it's out there starting quarterback and star player. ah Utah schedule after this, they have, I think they play BYU who looks very good this week. um Other than that, their schedule, they play Iowa State. They have Iowa State and BYU left who are the two teams that kind of are going to be competitive probably.
00:23:48
Zack
If they go 12-0, it doesn't matter what happens in the Big 12 championship, they're going to make it to the playoffs. I think it's going to be an interesting one. I think there's a chance that there there is a there's a realistic situation in the Big 12 where likely a Utah is going to be have a playoff spot locked up already going into the championship game.
00:24:13
Zack
And then there's going to be whoever comes in second, whether it's Iowa State or Oklahoma State or whoever it is. um It's going to have an opportunity to beat Oklahoma or it's going to be able to have an opportunity to beat Utah and have two teams from the Big 12 go versus just Utah winning and only one team going.
00:24:32
nextguyup
Yeah. And wouldn't that one team that wins, they would get ah the buy, right?
00:24:38
Zack
They would get the bye week. Yeah. So there's a potential. you've That's the biggest potential for a three or four loss team getting into the playoffs.
00:24:49
Zack
And you could have a bye week potentially.
00:24:52
nextguyup
Yeah, and you I Will get we'll talk to it once we get closer time, but I think there's some value in getting that fifth seed Because
00:25:04
nextguyup
you still get some home field you get to play the weaker of the top four teams and
00:25:11
nextguyup
So I don't know, that's that's something i in like the back of my head I've been kind of thinking about is, you know if there is a scenario like what you're talking about, Utah might just say, hey, I'd rather i'd rather take my chances at the five seed and play a lower ranked team and then play play whoever it is that just beat us, air quotes, in the big 12 championship game.
00:25:36
Zack
I think realistically that fifth spot is going to go to the loser of the SEC championship, probably.
00:25:43
Zack
um I mean, unless something crazy happens, I think that's that's like because I think the two SEC championship teams will have one loss max.
00:25:52
Zack
And so I mean, probably that's probably true. Yeah.
00:25:57
Zack
But I agree. I think that's a valuable spot. I agree with you.
00:26:01
Zack
I think the team that maybe what you're really looking for is in the big 10 or as you see the third place team who doesn't have to play in the championship game. If you could sneak into a a home game still, that's kind of a best case scenario.
00:26:17
nextguyup
as Like a was what like the sixth or seventh team I guess
00:26:21
Zack
Yeah, yeah, if you were like. Say Tennessee gets has two losses and then. Or just one loss, maybe, but it's like Georgia Bama or Georgia Ole Miss or whatever in the championship game, but Tennessee sitting third, you don't have to play against another top team. You get to skip that game.
00:26:43
Zack
um And you also, you have to play a first round game, obviously, but I think they'll be in a much better spot than whatever team just lost in the championship game.
00:26:52
nextguyup
Okay, that's interesting, yeah right, um got one really really quick one we are recording while Sunday night footballs going on and his passion my home's washed up um He he just threw a really bad
00:26:56
Zack
Okay. Since what you got overreaction of the week.
00:27:09
Mason
this good a This could age very poorly.
00:27:11
Zack
Some people are asking.
00:27:12
nextguyup
Some people are asking. I mean, he threw a really he just threw a really bad interception. He got bailed out last week to win the game on a phantom pass interference call. The streets are talking. Not really, Patrick Holmes is very good.
00:27:25
nextguyup
Please don't. No one clipped this.
00:27:27
Zack
You can keep it recedes.
00:27:28
nextguyup
No one clip no one clipped this and put it on the internet. But no, my my real over reaction of the week is, ah is Andy Dalton gonna take the Panthers to the playoffs?
00:27:37
nextguyup
What a night and day difference this team looked like under Andy Dalton today. ah The offense was rolling from the start, scored over 30 points. I saw a stat where um the Panthers scored just points in general on 18% of all drives that Bryce Young started.
00:27:59
nextguyup
like was the starter for. They scored on 64% of all drives Andy Dalton started with today's start and he started a few games last year when Bryce got hurt.
00:28:11
nextguyup
um So it's just, it's crazy what the difference looks like with an experienced quarterback who knows what he's doing and and has all the confidence and hasn't been beat up like Bryce Young where he came in behind the same offensive line and the same weapons, but it looked like a completely different team.
00:28:34
Mason
Yeah, I should have never went against the red rifle. um I really do think that Bryce Young could have the same career as like a Malik Willis where he gets in a better situation, but I think it's over. Yes, go ahead.
00:28:48
nextguyup
oh I was gonna say don't are you doing this again? Where you're gonna trash on Blake Willis? he He just keeps he keeps coming for you when you do
00:28:52
Mason
no and No, no, no, no, no. I think I said it, I think I said it in a text where I think it's it wasn't the quarterback. I think it was just the, it was the team and the fit.
00:29:02
Mason
And, uh, obviously he's doing well with the Packers. I
Panthers and Titans: Future Considerations
00:29:07
Mason
bet you Jordan Love will start next week though. I don't think they'll rush it, but anyways, back to what you were talking about. I, that's a bold idea.
00:29:14
Mason
Have you looked at the schedule? Are there a lot of winnable games in there? Okay.
00:29:19
nextguyup
I took the Panthers win total.
00:29:19
Mason
It's a, that's why it's a bold prediction.
00:29:22
nextguyup
It's overre it's just an overreaction.
00:29:24
nextguyup
Just the Panthers look so much better with him in instead of Bryce Young. I mean, I took their win total before the season started, so I'd like to see Andy keep slinging it around. um But yeah, no, that's it it'd be a miracle because their division is turning out to be
00:29:42
nextguyup
Pretty good like everyone like we all trashed on the NFC South and the Saints look good The Bucks started off 2-0 and then the Falcons are currently beating the Chiefs at this moment Something to think about Yeah get it
00:29:58
Mason
Some, we could see what happens. Something to think about. Okay. Is am i is it my turn? Okay.
00:30:04
Mason
Oh gosh. I, I'm sorry everybody for listening to this. I just feel like it's all about the Titans and, and we'll love us, but my overreaction is we'll have it. So they're bi-week. The Titans bi-week is week five.
00:30:16
Mason
Uh, we'll live us, we'll be benched during week five bi-week and Mason Rudolph will tell take a takeover as a starting quarterback. Uh, do you guys know Mason Rudolph's, uh, record as a starter?
00:30:32
nextguyup
It's probably not terrible considering he was on the Steelers.
00:30:35
Mason
12 8 and 1 so and he also had let me see let me find it here real quick he had uh touchdown wise 19 touchdowns 11 interceptions so he's got more than ah you know he's not he doesn't have more interceptions than touchdowns so it could be a possibility 12 8 and 1 record and that uh touchdown interception ratio so we'll see what happens that's my
00:30:39
nextguyup
All right, I will.
00:31:06
Mason
That's my overreaction.
00:31:11
nextguyup
Yeah, i could see I could see that happening.
00:31:12
Mason
You, Zach? Okay. Do we want that, Zach?
00:31:16
Zack
I don't care anymore.
00:31:19
Zack
You know, I would maybe, I don't know, I think we'll have this, they're going to. I feel like they're going to look back on how, what happened with Malik Willis and be like, Hmm, maybe we should treat this differently.
00:31:33
Zack
Like maybe they learned some lessons, you know, probably not.
00:31:37
nextguyup
or maybe not draft a quarterback in the bad draft classes, just cause you feel like you have to take a quarterback. Cause that's what they got caught up in two years in a row or two different draft classes was yeah no yeah not even Penn state.
00:31:46
Zack
Maybe just not draft. Whatever. We're not going to. It's we'll have us. No one wanted to let us. Here we are. Not a single person wanted them. I don't. Whatever. OK.
00:32:06
Zack
Okay, we're moving on dumpster fire of the week.
00:32:06
Mason
ah Okay, dumpster fire? Yep, let's do it.
00:32:09
Zack
um Mine's pretty simple here. I'm not gonna spend a lot of time talking about it. Guys, Mississippi State's still bad. ah We had kind of the dumpster fire game of the week.
00:32:17
Zack
um That would be Florida and Mississippi State. Two teams who both were really looking pretty bad. And Mississippi State just looked much worse than Florida did.
00:32:22
nextguyup
The dumpster fireball.
00:32:26
Zack
The game was in Florida, so I mean, it is what it is. but
00:32:31
nextguyup
Oh, it was a Mississippi state.
00:32:33
Zack
It was in Mississippi State. Oh, that's worse. um I didn't and did not watch very much this game, to be honest with you. um But Florida, at least, I mean, I'm going to talk about lag away here in a second. But they looked a little bit, or did, yeah, like I said, I didn't watch a lot of this game. I think Grand Mertz did play as well.
00:32:51
nextguyup
Mertz played well. he He looked good. Lagway had some, he was, I watched, I did watch some of this game. I bet the over. So that's the only reason I was, I can tell you anything about it.
00:33:04
nextguyup
Mertz had a couple of touchdown passes and looked okay.
00:33:07
Zack
Okay. I think there's a chance that Mississippi State is just like really, really bad.
00:33:12
Zack
I think Vanderbilt is at least a passable team this year.
00:33:15
Zack
They look a lot better. They have a quarterback who's pretty, he's pretty fun.
00:33:19
Zack
Um, he's definitely feisty and Mississippi State just has nothing redeeming. So Mississippi State is being pretty close to clinching worst of the SEC thing.
00:33:27
nextguyup
Yeah, I mean. ah At this point I felt bad for Mississippi State. They had terrible last offseason. Mike Leach obviously passes away before the season starts. ah They just promote their defensive coordinator to be the head coach. He wasn't really ready for that. They lost some recruits. They lost some guys in transfer portal and so this guy comes in and is just starting from the ground up.
00:33:54
nextguyup
And he was pretty close to getting Dylan Gabriel because he was his offensive coordinator, at Oklahoma. And then Dylan Gabriel looked at who was there and was like, nevermind.
00:34:02
nextguyup
I'm not doing this.
00:34:04
Zack
Probably a good call.
00:34:06
Zack
Yeah. Could we call from Bill and Gabriel? Okay. Dumpster fire of the week.
00:34:12
nextguyup
Uh, I went with North Carolina.
00:34:15
nextguyup
Um, To just traditionally not a powerhouse at football, but you do not expect them to lose 70 to 40 to jmu Oh 50 sorry 50 That is that is the definition of tough um
00:34:27
Zack
They scored 50 points and still lost by 20.
00:34:36
nextguyup
Yeah, this is just embarrassing. JMU is
North Carolina Football Challenges and Rumors
00:34:39
nextguyup
was supposed to be kind of worse.
00:34:41
nextguyup
They were like the fun Cinderella story last year because they won some games they weren't supposed to and all this stuff.
00:34:47
nextguyup
but And they couldn't go to a bowl game because it was their first year of being an FPS. um and But then that their head coach goes to Indiana half the team transfers with him and so everybody's like Oh Jamie was a nice story last year, but they're gonna suck this year ah nope, they they're apparently good enough to ah Beat up on North Carolina who apparently now this has apparently been Dispelled but Mike Mac Brown after the game said I'm done.
00:35:14
nextguyup
I can't do this. This cannot I can't I can't keep Doing like this is so embarrassing. I'm done.
00:35:22
nextguyup
I'm resigning right now on the spot People people have come out and said that's just Mac.
00:35:24
Zack
It's not a good look.
00:35:28
nextguyup
He takes losses very personally He will be in the office Monday morning preparing for their next game, but It's just I've done I I can't do this anymore
00:35:34
Zack
Yeah, apparently the players like talked him off the proverbial ledge there. That's what I heard. That's crazy though, for a coach to be like, I'm done. I'm, I quit.
00:35:48
nextguyup
i Lost the Jamie 20 points You
00:35:51
Zack
What a, yeah, what a ledge that North Carolina has fallen off from like two years ago, they were really pretty good with Drake may and last year.
00:35:59
nextguyup
know They had a stretch with like Sam house last season they were ranked pretty high and then yeah with Drake May they were like in the running for ACC like talking about a playoff spot if they won their conference and
00:36:00
Zack
And it's just not good.
00:36:15
Zack
It's kind of shocking that Mac Brown is still coaching.
00:36:20
Zack
Maybe he should not be coaching anymore. We thought about that.
00:36:22
nextguyup
Maybe the players should have let him quit.
00:36:27
Zack
I feel like he's been coaching for a very long time.
00:36:34
Mason
So real quick, I didn't know if dumpster fire.
00:36:35
Zack
um um He's 73 years old.
00:36:39
Mason
Wow. How old is Bill Belichick?
00:36:43
nextguyup
Don't talk about him.
00:36:45
Mason
Well, I was just curious of his his age as well.
00:36:49
Mason
Uh, okay. There you go. Uh, I didn't know if this was meant for player or team, but, uh, just for somebody that had Anthony Richardson on my team, um, he scored in our league, he scored a total of four points.
00:37:03
Mason
And 167 yards and two interceptions, no touchdowns.
00:37:05
nextguyup
It's a tough look.
00:37:08
Mason
Not much rushing there either. So that was my, and they got the L. So all the things, no, they got the win, but he's bad. Sorry, I forgot they were playing Caleb against Caleb Williams.
00:37:18
Mason
Maybe he's bad too. It's all dumpster fire.
00:37:23
Mason
Bears could be really bad. If only they had Justin Phillips like Tinsley said.
00:37:29
nextguyup
Yeah, I I did send that earlier.
00:37:31
nextguyup
I said hmm, you know the the Bears could really use a player like Justin Fields right now.
00:37:33
Mason
And I said in the off season that I said, why are they doing this? I literally said they have, they, they just put pieces around them like they were supposed to. But anyways, that's a separate story.
00:37:47
nextguyup
You know who agreed with you bear starting wide receiver DJ more.
00:37:52
Zack
and Roma doomsday's dad.
00:37:55
nextguyup
Yeah, Rumberton says dad would probably.
00:37:58
nextguyup
He's he's been apparently he's been doing that for a long time, but he's just done it on a burner account But now that his son's in that a fella's like I don't care anymore First
00:38:05
Zack
It's awesome. I'm sure that makes Kale Bloons want to throw him the ball more.
00:38:13
nextguyup
touchdown pass was the rumba doomsday they fought they fought over the ball who's gonna keep it.
00:38:15
Zack
True. That's pretty funny.
00:38:20
Zack
Okay. Uh, we have a performance of the week individual or position group or whatever, whoever you want to nominate is cool with me.
00:38:32
Mason
Okay. I'm going to go with Derek Henry from, yeah, the, the Ravens. I just, I wish he was on the Titan still, man. Uh, but anyways, 151 yards and two touchdowns, 25 carries Ravens get the win.
00:38:47
Mason
It's my performance of the week. Shout out.
00:38:52
Zack
Okay, I've got a performance of the week for a group of people.
00:38:53
Mason
You guys got a couple.
00:38:57
Zack
ah these are These are quarterbacks who did not start the year off as a starter starting quarterback taking on a starting role. um I've got a list of them.
Backup Quarterbacks in the Spotlight
00:39:08
Zack
have Alex Orgy, ah led Michigan to a huge win over USC.
00:39:14
Zack
ah He looked very good. his Um, his ability, they kind of ran a two quarterback system at the beginning of the year and they've moved towards him just being the primary quarterback. Using his legs kind of opened up a good bit of their offense that looks pretty poor early. ah They looked really good against USC. I think Michigan is back in the mix for sure. Utah backup, obviously backing up Cam Rising, Isaac Wilson.
00:39:40
Zack
uh, led to the upset of Oklahoma state, Oklahoma back up, came in, Michael Hawkins coming in for, um, uh, shoot.
00:39:51
nextguyup
Oh, what's Austin Jackson?
00:39:53
Zack
I'm just Jackson Arnold.
00:39:57
nextguyup
Jackson Arnold, almost there.
00:39:58
Zack
Um, who is a, who is a five star recruit? Jackson Arnold has kind of been given a lot of time to see if he could develop and people were very excited about him. He just does not look good. He threw a really bad interception in the first half of the Tennessee game. He looked pretty poor, honestly. And once Michael Hawkins came in, the offense looked better than it had the whole game for sure. So I, I look, I look ahead for Oklahoma as Michael Hawkins being the guy there. Uh, he's a true freshmen, but he, he earned the job. He looked pretty good in the second half.
00:40:28
Mason
They play Auburn next week.
00:40:31
Zack
That'd be a big game.
00:40:34
Zack
Auburn does not look very good. Let's talk about them later. um And then obviously we talked about him Andy Dalton back up quarterback came in.
00:40:45
Zack
Shock the world, baby. So big big year for backup quarterbacks. And next on the list is going to be ah Titans, Will Evans on the bench, and backup quarterback coming in and leading us to a big season.
00:41:04
nextguyup
Give me Mason Rudolph.
00:41:07
Zack
I do. I forgot his name. Mason Rudolph.
00:41:10
Mason
but We just talked about him like 15 minutes ago.
00:41:12
Zack
I know. I've heard a lot of names in my head, Mason. Listen.
00:41:14
Mason
Also, no, it's a it's a lot. I try to i try to keep it all. I have to write it all down. But the fact that we watched a three and a half hour game of, ok of course, the quarterback didn't play the whole game, but we none of us could remember Oklahoma starting quarterback as.
00:41:27
Zack
I've talked about him so many times. I had, I had the guy who backed him up name written down and I did. I forgot. I was like, Oh, I know Jackson Arnold. You get to the moment and then you're like, Oh man, can't remember. Okay.
00:41:38
Mason
I can't remember either.
00:41:38
Zack
So there's my ah performance of the week.
00:41:41
nextguyup
Alright, my performance of the week is a backup quarterback as well.
00:41:45
nextguyup
Some people said that he was the worst quarterback in NFL history and that the Packers would not win a single game with him as the starter.
00:41:52
Zack
Some people have had that.
00:41:52
nextguyup
He proceeded proceed to go 2-0 and absolutely dominate his last the team he was on last year, going 13 for 19, 200 yards a touchdown and ran for 73 more yards in a touchdown.
00:42:05
nextguyup
That'd be Malik Willis. What a game.
00:42:08
Mason
I feel like this is personal.
00:42:08
Zack
What a game from my guy.
00:42:11
Mason
You add in the extra stats.
00:42:13
Mason
First of all, I'm the stat guy. You, you don't use stats unless you really need to.
00:42:18
Mason
And then you, you used them against me.
00:42:19
nextguyup
I use stats to back up my points. That's how I use stats.
00:42:23
Mason
You're just enjoying all of this is what you're doing. Are you not? like
00:42:26
nextguyup
It's just, it was it was, it was funny that Mason, even outside of the pod, Mason was like sending us these bet slips like, Malik Willis will throw three, pick sixes this game, watch this.
00:42:37
nextguyup
Like he was bitten. It was the c Colts. Yeah, the Colts defensive score touchdowns and I was like Mason Have you ever heard of putting all your eggs in one basket?
00:42:47
nextguyup
And then he said the his bold prediction was that the Packers would not win a single game with him as the starter and then he wants to Listen people can't you you say something on this pod.
00:42:53
Mason
Yeah, this is tough. And you're making it worse by pointing it out. I was hoping people would forget about it, but you reminded them so.
00:43:08
nextguyup
I It never goes away.
00:43:09
Mason
just like me drafting Survivor in our last, if you haven't listened to it, but anyways.
00:43:17
Zack
OK, we will ah let's keep our next up of the week for the end. Let's go and do these. um The highest riser in the power rankings, which team um made some power moves and is moving up?
00:43:33
Zack
I just mentioned them, so I'll go ahead and go here, um Michigan. who a lot of people were. Counting out, their offense looked pretty bad. They looked rough against Texas, honestly. They looked much better against USC. And while I'm here, let's go ahead and add another team in. Clemson is also rising up in their rankings right now. They had a dominant win against NC State. I think for both Michigan and Clemson are in a similar situation where they got dominated in week one, or not week one, but early in the season by what might just be really good teams.
00:44:08
Zack
and people kind of wrote them off, both teams are now looking much better and they may be good teams, just not on Georgia or Texas's level. So that's a potential there. Both those teams though are rising up in the rankings.
00:44:25
nextguyup
i Just I don't know Michigan. I just can't do it with Michigan yet after what I saw against Arkansas State I just can't get there with you, but I see which is Yeah, I don't know I mean you lose by three they were in it they had every chance to win I'm I think they're fine I Don't think they had it I mean
00:44:34
Zack
There's also potential that USC is just overrated as well.
00:44:39
Zack
playing at Michigan.
00:44:49
Zack
It was when Michigan had to have, but yeah.
00:44:53
nextguyup
Michigan had to have that one yet. USC wasn't coming into the year with super high expectations either. but um So yeah, I don't know. I just i can't get i see what you're saying with Clemson.
00:45:04
nextguyup
I think Clemson could be a team
Rising Teams in Power Rankings
00:45:06
nextguyup
that, like what you said, they just aren't on the level of Georgia and that's okay, but they can still be a good team in their conference. um
00:45:13
Zack
I think they'll be, they'll be playing Miami in the ICC championship.
00:45:17
nextguyup
Yeah, I think so them are Louisville.
00:45:18
nextguyup
It'll cut it'll come down to those two I think might it'll be Miami and then I wonder if Clemson Louisville play each other.
00:45:25
nextguyup
I have to look Yeah, Georgia Tech was their first test and they beat him by 12 I
00:45:25
Zack
Louisville has a tough, don't they play a pretty good team this week? Louisville is in the same boat as some other teams. They have not played anyone even moderately competent. I don't think yet.
00:45:39
Zack
And so I think Louisville's next week that I forget who they play. I'll get back to you.
00:45:44
nextguyup
Look up. I'm going to do my highest riser in the power rankings. I want the Vikings.
00:45:50
nextguyup
um This is a team going into the year. I think a lot of people are super down on JJ McCarthy getting hurt. All the defensive players getting hurt.
00:46:01
nextguyup
um And playing in a tough division, a lot of a lot of people were kind of saying the Vikings might finish last in that division, thinking the Bears would be a lot better than what they currently are. The Vikings are 3-0. They absolutely whooped up on the Texans today. um The Texans are a team. People are calling the Super Bowl sleeper. um Not me, but some people are saying that about the Houston Texans. But they absolutely got whooped up on 34-7.
00:46:29
nextguyup
Against the Vikings today. So the Vikings are moving their way up. They should be considered a top 10 maybe top eight team that I fell right now if not higher Granted
00:46:42
Mason
Hmm Tinsley ah said it earlier today, but me and Zach were a week early on the Super Bowl winning or not week early a year early on the Super Bowl winning ah Vikings tough break and
00:46:54
nextguyup
you couldn't get the odds you guys got him on last year. I I think at one point Zach bet like a dollar to win $700.
00:47:05
Mason
They were like second to last.
00:47:07
Mason
I'm pretty sure Josh knobs came in there.
00:47:09
Zack
Yeah, I thought they were going back.
00:47:09
nextguyup
Josh, Josh Dobbs.
00:47:11
Mason
and won them a couple games. And we were like, hey, it's looking pretty good. Yeah, that offense, same dog. Once again, we're talking about quarterbacks in the right scheme. It's just one of those things where they they look good. The defense looks good, too. So team I'm going with um for my high riser, speaking of defense, a team that held the Dolphins, I get it, Skylar Thompson. But that they got some playmakers on that team. Only held them to three points.
00:47:40
Mason
The Seahawks look now, but they are don't look now. They're 3-0 to start. So I'm going with the Seahawks 24-3 win. DK Metcalf had a 70-yard touchdown catch.
00:47:53
Mason
just That's my high riser.
00:47:56
nextguyup
Remember when I gave that I thought the 49ers wouldn't win their division and that you should go take a full unit on the Rams and a half unit on the Cardinals and I said I'm not taking the Seahawks because I won't bet on a team that has Geno Smith is their head coat or head quarterback.
00:48:12
nextguyup
Yeah, what a dumb decision by me Seahawks are looking good. I'm half right because the 49ers look rough. They lost the game today. They just look like they are.
00:48:24
nextguyup
The injuries are mounting for them, but uh, so yeah, congrats if you didn't listen to me and you took to the Hawks.
00:48:31
Mason
I mean, I don't know how, it's pretty valid given like Gino Smith, let's see. He had one touchdown, two picks today, three sacks. His QBR was 35.
00:48:41
Mason
So it's like, was it really an overall team? Like, I can understand you're unsure about Gino.
00:48:52
nextguyup
i'll Live on that hill fighting against Geno Smith i've i've I've lived on different much worse hills I've lived on ant hills.
00:48:56
Mason
I guess it's a good hill. I don't know.
00:49:01
Mason
you've lived you've You've been on worse ones, i so have I.
00:49:07
nextguyup
That's like a molehill. Like that's at least a little bit better.
00:49:10
Zack
Tins, are you living on the hill or dying on the hill?
00:49:13
nextguyup
Oh They can't kill me it's only one way you can kill me
00:49:20
nextguyup
That'll be tonight against the Bills.
00:49:22
Zack
Okay. True. Josh Allen of the Week. Okay.
00:49:27
nextguyup
It's a big one.
00:49:28
Zack
Nose dive of the week. Which team dropped the most? I mentioned them earlier, so I'm going to talk about them here. Oklahoma State, ah they were pretty hyped up at the beginning of this season.
00:49:41
Zack
um They've They've not looked bad, but now after that loss to Utah, ah they look not great. um That team just at home kind of on a pretty big stage on Friday night when they were one of the only things going on, had a pretty had a chance to kind of make a statement to the world that they were there and just didn't play very well. So they are dropping. I made a prediction. Utah was making the playoffs at a big 12. So and Oklahoma State is out.
00:50:12
Zack
Sorry, Oklahoma State.
Coaching Decisions and Team Impacts
00:50:17
nextguyup
Get out of here, pokies.
00:50:21
nextguyup
All right. ah My nose dive of the week is NIU.
00:50:25
nextguyup
Congratulations on getting ranked. Somehow, someway, they got ranked for beating Chex Notes. Oh, Notre Dame. um As a 14-point favorite at home to a fellow Mac school Buffalo, so you're a 14-point favorite at home, you should be able to handle these guys easy, right?
00:50:42
nextguyup
You just beat up on Notre Dame. Wrong. You losing overtime. So I don't know if this is a if this makes things worse for NIU or if it makes you really feel like an idiot for rooting for Notre Dame.
00:50:55
Zack
It looks much worse for Notre Dame, for sure. And I looked it up. Actually, Louisville plays Notre Dame next week. So there's your matchup.
00:51:03
nextguyup
Oh, there it is.
00:51:04
Zack
Notre Dame elimination game.
00:51:07
nextguyup
Hopefully Louisville can just put the final dagger into Notre Dame for us so we can catch that Notre Dame playoff ticket.
00:51:08
Zack
That would be awesome.
00:51:15
Zack
That would be electric. OK, Mason.
00:51:19
Mason
Okay, nosedive of the week for me is gonna be the Chargers they started out 2-0 Now Justin Herbert they lose against the Steelers and Justin Herbert might be banged up a little bit. So um The Taylor Heineke is their backup. I'm just wondering a double whammy of a loss with getting like their quarterback because he had the injury going into the game so You know, was it worth him playing again?
00:51:47
Mason
Worse? I don't know. So there's some red flags, double red flags. That's my nose dive, especially if they continue to like get him out there and get him hurt.
00:51:57
Mason
I don't know what they're going to end up doing. Let me see their schedule. Oh, yeah, they play the Chiefs next week. So that was the.
00:52:03
nextguyup
Oh, yeah. And the Steelers, I don't have the number off top of my head, but I know that teams perform very bad the week after playing the Steelers because they're such a physical team that it just, they take a lot out of you.
00:52:20
Zack
There you go. OK, we don't we don't do this whenever we were bringing it back because there are some notable names on the hot seat. This is our hot seat of the week. um My primary reason for suggesting this category this week was one Hugh Freese over in Auburn. Lost a game at home to Arkansas, who has been a pretty up and down team so far this year. ah Hugh Freese after the game.
00:52:48
Zack
seemed to be pointing the blame at everyone other than himself. Uh, as soon as a head coach starts doing that, uh, you are immediately on the hot seat. If you are, if you lose a big game and you're like, well, the offensive line just really lay us down. Uh, wide receivers were dropping balls. I mean, as soon as you start throwing, throwing shots at people, uh, it's because you are deflecting the blame for it and you are worried about your job. So if you freeze firmly on the hot seat, Auburn has some big, big games going on this season. Uh, I know they're hosting an Oklahoma team.
00:53:22
Zack
They've got a pretty rough schedule, and um it may be a battle for Hugh Freeze's job at this point.
00:53:31
Zack
not Not game to game, probably.
00:53:32
Zack
It's not as um it's not as hot as some other, like, Billy Napier's, but definitely um this was kind of this moment where I was like, oh, Hugh Freeze, not looking great.
00:53:37
nextguyup
As some people write the people we've already talked about, but. Especially after they they fired a coach and like made it a big deal to go get Hugh Freeze because they thought he could, you know, do what he did at he was at Ole Miss, right?
00:53:59
nextguyup
before he got suspended for some pretty questionable stuff.
00:54:03
Zack
Yeah, if he goes like six and six or seven and five, I could see a reality where he's he's out of there.
00:54:09
nextguyup
Yeah, Auburn's not a program that like really deals with mediocrity.
00:54:13
nextguyup
I can't say it. I can't say it the correct way. Um, pretty gross mediocrity.
00:54:19
nextguyup
Oh, there we go. ah I have to, I have to think about it really hard.
00:54:21
Zack
Ooh, where's the tent?
00:54:24
nextguyup
Um, So yeah, they're I don't think, I think you're right. I think if they have a pretty bad season, they'll go, all right, we'll just try somebody else, who cares?
00:54:31
nextguyup
They got they got some big boosters over there in Auburn.
00:54:33
Zack
Don't worry, we're just going to get Lane Kiffin.
00:54:36
nextguyup
That's that's everybody's answers.
00:54:37
Zack
That's what everyone says.
00:54:37
nextguyup
We're gonna get Lane Kiffin.
00:54:38
Zack
Lane Kiffin, he'll come.
00:54:40
nextguyup
And then he's not gonna go anywhere. um All right, my hot seat, this one might be a head scratcher because this guy won his game today.
00:54:50
nextguyup
He he pulled victory from the teeth of defeat. He wanted to win or wanted to lose so bad. This guy Nick Sirianni is an idiot. You have the ball on the Saints like in in red zone territory.
00:55:07
nextguyup
10 seconds left in the first half and you go for it on 4th and two. Why kick the field goal?
00:55:15
nextguyup
You're you're it's a zero to three game. Kick the field goal.
00:55:19
nextguyup
He just does dumb stuff like this every game. He mismanages timeouts and situational football. There's an obvious beef between him and Jalen hurts. They've been getting into it on the sideline.
00:55:31
nextguyup
ah After they lost to the Falcons last week, his postgame press conference, apparently Jalen Hurts addressed the team after the loss and Nick Ceriani just left the room. And when reporters asked him about it, he said, oh, they didn't want to hear from me. Jalen took care of it. um I figured I'd just come talk to you guys.
00:55:52
nextguyup
I don't think that locker room respects him as a coach.
00:55:56
nextguyup
I think you could also tell by the fact that he did not hire his offensive and defensive coordinator. He was made to fire the people from last year that were his handpicks. Howie, the GM brought in Vic Fangio and Kellen Moore to take over those two roles.
00:56:10
nextguyup
Because I think if things go sideways with Nick Ceriani, he will get fired. And one of those guys will get promoted because Howie does not trust. who Nick Sariani is. If you look at the Super Bowl run, he had Shane Seiken and Rich Gannon as his ah offensive defensive coordinator. Both those guys are head coaches in the NFL who are, who are perceived as pretty good head coaches. So I think Nick Sariani is a ah coordinator merchant.
00:56:36
nextguyup
and When he got to pick his guys last year you saw what happened. I don't think this team likes him I do think he gets fired this year as soon as they go on a losing streak I think if they would have lost today you could have really it could have got bad real quick for the Eagles It's I'm not the only one that thinks this either.
00:56:52
Zack
This is a take chance.
00:56:54
Mason
No, this is this should have this should have been a a hot take.
00:56:57
Mason
of What was it, our bold prediction?
00:57:02
Zack
He's not the only one.
00:57:02
nextguyup
There's another very There's a very popular podcast in the world that I'm getting a lot of these takes from.
00:57:09
nextguyup
and i'm Now this this one's a little bit smaller than us, just by a little.
00:57:16
Zack
Would you say he's very honest as the offensive coordinator for the Jags tense?
00:57:20
nextguyup
No, I don't want any part of Nick Ceriani. Nick Ceriani was one of the guys on Doug Peterson's staff that he, one of the only guys he ever fired from his staff because he didn't think he was doing a good job.
00:57:32
Zack
Maybe you could buy quarterback at Tennessee.
00:57:37
nextguyup
I don't, I don't know what he, I don't think, oh, the Titans, maybe.
00:57:44
nextguyup
Like, I think UT is pretty loaded for the next few years at quarterback.
00:57:46
Zack
He's great. yeah not you definitely We never take it easy.
00:57:53
Mason
okay so my hot seat yeah it would be one dallas cowboys head coach mike mccarthy jerry jones has a high standard everybody and when you have i'd know the
00:58:06
nextguyup
It's so high they haven't won a playoff game in like 20 something years.
00:58:10
Zack
Except for quarterbacks.
00:58:13
Mason
But listen, Ravens at home, I get it. That's not ah an easy game to win, but it was at home. This is what I'm most worried about. So they lost 28 to 25. And here's their upcoming schedule that I'm the most worried about. So they got a quick turnaround Thursday night football at New York against the Giants. Steelers, Lions, 49ers, they might be healthy by then. Falcons, Eagles, Texans.
00:58:40
Mason
So I don't want to go through the whole list, but yeah, that's a tough schedule.
00:58:40
nextguyup
That's a tough schedule.
00:58:43
Mason
So um right now I'm just, I don't know if they, so what where's the breaking point where if they go like one in four or one in five, where does he actually like let him go mid season?
00:58:59
nextguyup
But let me ask you this, is Jerry Jones all in this year or what? Because that's what I he said he was all in and then he didn't do anything to improve the team from last year.
00:59:05
Mason
You say it was all in. He didn't do anything.
00:59:10
Mason
Here's my biggest problem. Dak Prescott threw for 379 yards. I don't know what the leader was, but that's pretty high up there and they still lost the game. It's because they can only rely on the passing like Rico, which I was like high on in fantasy land.
00:59:26
Mason
ah Did nothing, 32 yards.
00:59:28
nextguyup
Yeah, that can't run the ball.
00:59:29
Mason
Dak pressed about seven yards. Zico, Ella, at six yards. So it's like what can, like, yeah, they're one dimension right now. So it's like Dak's doing everything. Everybody's like, oh, you got paid, he's not. But I don't think he's the problem.
00:59:40
Mason
It's like the defense in the run game.
00:59:42
nextguyup
the The defense has taken a step back, and that's where you look at that and say, well, what changed? Well, Dan Quinn left as the defensive coordinator. He's the head coach now at Washington, so that was a big blow. And they just, like we talked about, they didn't really do anything to improve their team. They didn't go get another receiver. I mean, your your second receiver is Brandon Cooks in the year 2024. Like, this is not 2016 anymore. Brandon Cooks is not that good.
01:00:08
nextguyup
um So yeah, I just I don't this Cowboys team going into the year. This is kind of what I saw happening was they have a tough schedule. They didn't do anything to improve their team. And so now what what are they going to do now?
01:00:23
nextguyup
I think there's going to be a lot of head coach.
01:00:25
nextguyup
I think there's going to be a pretty. pretty big mass firing after the season's done on some during the season two. But
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01:00:33
nextguyup
there's going to be some some some teams are going to be looking to add new creative minds from the offensive side of the ball.
01:00:40
nextguyup
And a lot of teams are going to go, OK, well, let's just let's just start over.
01:00:44
Mason
Over under five and a half.
01:00:47
Mason
Hmm. There you go. You heard it here first.
01:00:48
Zack
And the old prediction still was let line kiff and it's going to end up in the NFL. So.
01:00:52
nextguyup
I did, I did say like it could could be in the NFL. I think he gets
01:00:56
Mason
His bold prediction is also next year. I was on the hot seat after a win. So and I love, no, I love it.
01:01:01
nextguyup
oh Tell me I'll tell me he's not Don't
01:01:02
Zack
Maybe take maybe like.
01:01:05
Mason
I'm not disagreeing. It's just, it's a bold prediction.
01:01:09
nextguyup
don't let Nick Seriano to be the first head coach fired Mason because I'm gonna pull this clip I Know the person that makes the clips Next
01:01:09
Mason
That's what I'm here for.
01:01:18
Zack
He controls the narrative.
01:01:21
Mason
Okay. So what's the, we got one category left.
01:01:24
Zack
Yep, next Skype of the Week.
01:01:27
nextguyup
guy of the week
01:01:27
Zack
ah This is where we determine who we think What is the next guy up of the week? What does that mean? I don't know. we it's still in We're still working on it.
01:01:38
Zack
But we're definitely going to nominate someone. um Maybe not the best performance of the week. Maybe not. I don't know.
01:01:44
nextguyup
Sometimes it's not been.
01:01:45
Zack
ah You know, what it is what it is. But it's official for sure.
01:01:49
nextguyup
It's it's the you know who jumped off the page to us and is like you know that is what embodies the next guy up podcast.
01:01:57
nextguyup
Now what does that mean?
01:01:58
nextguyup
Like Zach said, we don't really know. We don't really have a ah good definition, but it's just like it's a vibe.
01:02:04
Zack
Maybe it should be Josh Allen.
01:02:04
nextguyup
This person but. Oh, but then oh then we've got him winning two awards.
01:02:07
Zack
Next guy for the week.
01:02:11
nextguyup
We've got Josh Allen winning Josh Allen of the week and the next.
01:02:13
Zack
Maybe they can split the award. What gets what the other gets the other?
01:02:19
nextguyup
But what if one completely outperforms the other in such a way that you can't even split it?
01:02:26
Zack
Good point. Okay. Next guy for the week, 10s, I think. Well, maybe we have a couple. Well, I don't know. We'll see what happens. Since you have.
01:02:34
nextguyup
I had the one that I text about, but I think after what we were talking about, just in general, I think I want to nominate the Colts fan who makes the songs.
01:02:48
nextguyup
cause He pulled out all the stops this week and some people were saying he's bad for the team Because they hadn't won a game yet, but he put all the stops he got the cheerleaders that come to his house and sing the song with him and Bing Bing bong they won the game.
01:03:05
Mason
here's here's my real question what are we doing here if this guy can be famous and do these like music videos what are we doing like we gotta be there you go get them on all right reach out to there'd be something but
01:03:13
Zack
Maybe we should get into videos.
01:03:17
Zack
He's the next guy up. We should get him on the pod. Would be an electric interview, I think.
01:03:24
nextguyup
I'll send him a DM real quick.
01:03:28
Mason
Okay, while Tinsley's doing that, I'll do mine. ah my My next guy up nominee is the next guys. It is the College Game Day crew, except for Blake Shelton. They all did the pick in Oklahoma. They could have done something cute and pick Oklahoma for the fans. ah But Pat McAfee and Lee Corso, all of them, they went with UT Vols and they got it correct.
01:03:56
Mason
So shout out and the guest speaker doesn't count because they always bring in the home someone from the home crowd. And so that was Blake Shelton. But that is my next guys up nominee.
01:04:12
Zack
You know what? I'm going for the next guy up. The next guy up. Malik Willis. Shout out.
01:04:19
Mason
Seriously, you guys are doing this on purpose.
01:04:25
nextguyup
He took all the negativity from this podcast.
01:04:28
Zack
He used it for good.
01:04:28
Mason
You know what? I'll take credit. That's fine. ah
01:04:30
Zack
He had a great week. even at Even at the expense of the Titans. ah He was the next guy up. They needed him. He did what they needed. he He embraced the hate.
01:04:40
Mason
There you go. It's true.
01:04:45
Zack
You know it something you gotta gotta give it to him at one point. It's like part of me is like, I think the Titans fans might have deserved that one. I kind of feel good. I feel like Malik Willis got like, you know, yeah honest just it's hard to feel bad for, it's hard to not feel bad for the guy. He just came in and just got hated by a fan base all like just immediately.
01:05:07
Zack
It's like, you know, he got he got his.
01:05:08
nextguyup
no matter what he did no i'm changing my vote to maleke willis for sure because i think i agree i definitely agree with zach that he's He took all the hate that he's gotten from the Titans fan base and he was even given the chance to kind of even take a shot at him.
01:05:09
Zack
He's the next guy up. What can I say?
01:05:29
nextguyup
They asked him if he had like a revenge on his mind. He said, no, everybody was, you know, they paid me to play football and I was grateful for the opportunity. He could have taken a shot at the fans that were very mean to him in the podcast.
01:05:41
nextguyup
The next guy podcast where a guy said they would never win a game with him, but you know, he proved the doubters and haters wrong.
01:05:48
Mason
You know what's funny about all this to all the listeners out there? ah None of these were on the list. Juwan Jennings was on our dock.
01:05:56
Zack
He's got a gotta go also, I have a last-minute one.
01:05:58
nextguyup
Sometimes yeah.
01:06:00
Zack
Apparently Morgan Wallen is playing in Neeland Stadium right now He brought out Peyton Manning and for ah uniform u t or in uniform From the locker room and Neeland on stage also Josh Hyple Nico and Bruma koi also walked out with him Pretty dope
01:06:15
nextguyup
That's pretty cool. There, yeah, so that's what so Morgan Wallen does like a walk out thing like he's a UFC fighter and he has his entourage walking behind him.
01:06:27
nextguyup
um Cool story Morgan Wallen, but that was a good get right there getting those guys Full gear ready to play ready to throw some passes around
01:06:33
Zack
Josh Hypel's like in shorts and a t-shirt. Peyton Manning is in um helmet full uniform. Cleats, everything, like pads.
01:06:46
Zack
He came out with the national champion baseball team on Friday night.
01:06:53
Zack
Okay. Anybody else have anything?
01:06:53
Mason
Oh, I heard he added, I heard he added to the show so that they could be there since the, obviously the game was in Oklahoma.
01:07:00
Mason
So it's pretty cool. Oh no.
01:07:03
Mason
Is that a pod? Is that really what we're going with Malik?
01:07:05
nextguyup
Yeah, congrats Malik Willis.
01:07:07
Zack
Next guy up from the week.
01:07:07
nextguyup
I think that's.
01:07:10
Mason
They did that on purpose.
01:07:13
nextguyup
That's going to be a fun graphic. I'm going to make that.
01:07:16
nextguyup
um Yeah, so Obviously our Josh Allen of the week award is gonna be delayed this week I think we'll try and do like a ah FaceTime record it throw it on the tick tock tomorrow night after the game and decide who won We've got it, you know, it's it's a running tally We got to make sure we keep up with it to see who wins the award at the end of the year.
01:07:23
Zack
That'd be a big one.
01:07:36
nextguyup
It's very important Yeah, I mean who knows the score right now. I know Josh Allen has won it the first two weeks.
01:07:43
nextguyup
So See if Josh Allen can catch him
01:07:47
Zack
Some people are saying it might be blowout.
01:07:50
nextguyup
Might be a runaway award for the whole year. It's like a Tim Tebow winning Heisman there.
01:07:56
Zack
Who's Malik Willis of the week?
01:07:58
nextguyup
Oh, did we just come up with a new award? It's whoever Mason hates puts the most hate on and then he does something crazy and proves him wrong.
01:08:08
Mason
Why does this always happen to me? Tinsley has like 18 hot takes of, uh, an episode.
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01:08:14
Mason
And this always happens to me.
01:08:15
Mason
I had one. And of course. Okay.
01:08:18
nextguyup
But none of mine have blown up in my face, yet.
01:08:22
Zack
Until Nick Sirani's a Super Bowl winning quarterback at the end of the season.
01:08:26
nextguyup
He's a head coach, Zach.
01:08:27
Zack
I mean, head coach, sorry. I'm the head coach. I knew that. Why was that stupid?
01:08:36
Zack
Okay. I feel like that's a pod. I feel like we're good.
01:08:38
Zack
we're into That one. um Thank you guys for joining us. Be with us on Thursday as we break down next week's games. We have some big, big, big, big college football games.
01:08:50
Zack
ah they're They're just getting more and more serious now that we're kind of getting into some conference play. So exciting stuff there. We will have all of our NFL. We are on TikTok. Join us there. The discord has been growing and we have been posting more and more in there. So follow our bets. We have been getting a little bit hot there. So you might want to you might want to follow us, get some betting advice. We hope you guys have a great week and we will see you back here on Thursday.