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Mother!
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We cover Darren Aronofsky's Mother!
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Introduction to Fright Central
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Welcome. For real.
Episode Releases & Festival Adventures
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All right. Welcome back to Fright Central. I'm Doc and back here again with Keck. How's it going, buddy?
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going all right man it's going better than it was last time what's going on with you that's very good uh i know i just posted the uh episodes today at least for the watcher so uh and then uh i've got the other one glorious coming up uh
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soon as well. And, uh, you know, I was like, yeah, by the time these go out, I'll be back from that Mad Max. Oh yeah. You've been road roaring the desert. Yeah. Yeah. Of course I'm already back and it's already like a week later and this isn't going to go up for at least another week. It's going to be like the end of October by the time, uh, this comes up and all of already, uh, cause I went the end.
Mad Max Festival: Growth & Highlights
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It doesn't matter. It's week to week. It's consistently, it's everything a good,
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podcast should be. And you've been road warring it. Dude, you've been road warring it. Yeah, it is a fantastic festival is one of the like, even like compared to like other music festivals, which like I only got to see one band. But this was the highest volume it's ever had, right? Yeah, it was 40 or 200 people. Yeah. The first one started in 2011 with on hold on. There's a
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Some sirens going by here. It's cool. You're in fucking L.A., man. I'm out of control down there, you know. Yeah. But yeah, the first one started in 2011 with like 300 people. So yeah. So yeah, it's really picked up and like even I think you would kind of be cool to go there with just 300 people.
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I mean 300 people that's still a lot of people like to be in all Road Warrior costumes and shit like that you know what I mean but like it would have been kind of cool to see it when it was like in its infancy like 4200 people like that's a fucking serious amount fucking Road Warrior fan
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Oh, yeah, that's a lot of people, but none of the places ever felt overcrowded, except for maybe that's what you were saying, except for the maybe the Thunderdome, which like you had to like do training first before you could actually do it. And like I saw the line at one point and I was like, I'm not waiting in the line. It's too hot out because that was the only man enter one man lead. They did the whole speech and everything is fantastic. There's people on the cages.
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and then like we left there like after watching a little bit of it and like some guy was going around with a cart that had like a little tiny cage and it had like lights on it and he was doing um a thumb thumb the dome it was uh you know thumb wrestling but under the dome and i thought that was no fucking funny
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But yeah, it was a it was a great festival in general. Like everybody was super friendly. The the poor bodies were clean. The only my only complaint was the you know, the weather. But I mean, there's nothing you could do about that. I mean, it was really hot during the day. But at least it wasn't like a sandstorm or something. Yeah, there could have been, you know, I mean, especially for this time of the year, this is where like sandstorms will spawn
Upcoming Events & Corey Taylor's Ventures
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up. It's usually in the October, November months.
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and then it's in the spring too. Those are the deserts too, like windier seasons, right? So that's when you, dude, if you had a sandstorm, that would have been, that could have been catastrophic. It's happened before. I've heard before during the wasteland that I don't remember, I don't know what year it was. Cause this was my first year going, but I've heard other people talk about one year there was a sandstorm and it was like the, it was like the sandstorm from the mummy coming in. Yeah.
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Dude, that could end the festive. You know what I mean? That could just close things down, damage things, or depending how long it lasts, it could be buzz killing to the effect that even if they pressed on,
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part of your soul would have died. So you just wouldn't have had a good time. I had a blast. It was great overall. You can go to Wasteland Weekend to see pictures and videos on YouTube or Facebook. There's a tunnel there or join the group Wasteland Central. That's a yearly event. There's another one that's called Nuclear Winter that's coming up in California that's in January.
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Uh, that's run by, uh, one of the, uh, main camps that, uh, that are at, um, wasteland weekend. But, uh, yeah, I'm not gonna be able to check that out this year because I won't be around, but, uh, yeah, they have like little events throughout the year as well to build up for it. And then they have a new, they just started neotropals, which is like a cyberpunk, uh, sci-fi, uh,
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Event yeah, you were talking about that. Yeah, I went to earlier in April which was uh, which was nice and small too But it's gonna get bigger. There's a lot of people were talking about that at wasteland. So People starting to prep for that. So but uh, yeah anyway, um Before we get into we're gonna talk about mother tonight but before that as something just had popped up, you know the Famous monsters magazine right that it's been around for ages
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that just says monsters on it? I think it says famous monsters on it. Or sometimes it might just say monsters in like big letter. Yeah, it definitely says famous monsters on top of it. I see the lettering in my head yet. Yeah, it's been around since like 1958. Yeah, I thought it was even earlier than that. I thought it was like 1953. No, no, it was 58. Yeah, I thought it was even older.
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The first first issue is February 1958, and then it's been like off and on. It was called like a monster land.
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And then it was famous monsters of film land. You know, then there was like, you know, some wall suit. And then 2008, it was somebody purchased it. And then like by 2017, it was just an annual print run. But Slipknots frontman Corey Taylor just bought Monster Magazine, Famous Monsters. And he has plans to relaunch the magazine, make toys, produce horror films and host festivals.
Live Performances: A Unique Experience
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That's cool. Yeah, I'm excited for that. I know he's a big horror fan, so it's always good to see. Yeah, I was never really. Well, to be totally honest, I don't know a whole hell of a lot about his band, but from what I had heard of it, I was like, I'm not like the biggest fan of their music.
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But, uh, you know, I mean, I think that's cool. You know, uh, if he wants to get into that, like, you know, I, I say the more, the merrier. So, um, yeah, I'm a big fan of, uh, I guess I'm not that stoked about it, but like, you know, I think that's cool. Yeah. I mean, I am a fan. Uh, I do like his, uh, music, not necessarily solo stuff, but you went to like some of his shows before. Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah. They're great live. Uh,
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But I have heard that. I heard they put on a great live performance. And I always have like, even if I don't like really prefer like, um, uh, bands like music, like blink one 82, I was not a fan of, but I heard that they were great live performers, uh, you know, like bands or like, you know, like Jamiroquai or somebody like that. You know, I not a fan of their music, but like, I always, um,
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had heard great things about like the show that they would put on live.
Jennifer Lawrence's Performance in 'Mother'
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So I always, I always. You know, nobody listens to Guar. You go see a live guar show. Yeah. Well, I actually do listen to Guar every now and especially for me, like, you know, like fish, for example, like I really don't. I am not a fan of fish's music. Like I would not listen to fish like ever.
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but like they're a live performance. Like, you know what I mean? Or like legend.
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So, you know, I always respect respect them for that. So he's now involved with the magazine and he is he bought plans to be producing. He's going to be producing horror now. Yeah, he's going to like, not just not just a revival of the magazine, but he actually make movies and do so. Yeah, I'm I'm excited. I'm just I was just starting his own production company. Yeah.
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with the Famous Monsters brand. So yeah, I just want to say, I'm not just like a fan of his music, but I'm a fan of people who love the genre of horror. And things like reviving some of these old things that they grew up on that are no longer really around. Oh yes, especially something that's been around. Now you were saying that the magazine itself was like in trouble or had died out.
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It's kind of died out. I mean, it only has like an annual print now. It doesn't really do. I mean, it's like it has like an online presence, but like it doesn't do much actual physical stuff anymore. And I believe it has a comic book publishing imprint as well. But I don't know if that's even still around like.
Analyzing 'Mother': Themes & Reception
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Yeah, no, massive respect for like, you know, well, I guess. Yeah, I would say it would be reviving.
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Something that's been around since nineteen fifty eight so yeah i mean i guess it wasn't totally that if they were still having annual publications but sounds like they were on the verge of croaking so yeah that's awesome. Yeah yeah i'm excited for but yeah anyway on we're here to talk about it.
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Darren Aronofsky's 2017 film, Mother. With an exclamation point. It's just not mother, it is mother. Mother, mother. Before we even get into talking about the movie, there's kind of a lot to talk about. Why don't you, because you were telling me that you had, well, you picked up on some of this during the film, obviously, but like,
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You had also read a bit about it after seeing it and you were talking about like the biblical references like Cain and Abel and stuff like that. And I noticed when I brought up the IMDB page.
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and I was just looking at the cast and I saw the names of like Jennifer Lawrence and Javier Burns and Ed Harris and Michelle Pfeiffer's names, like their cast names. Jennifer Lawrence, mother, Javier Burns, him, Ed Harris, man, Michelle Pfeiffer, woman, then you have
00:11:10
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oldest son, younger brother, cut barrel, damsel, wanderer. Yeah, nobody's name is mentioned in the film. Yeah. Um, bumbler, fool, idler, planter, whisperer, adulterer, zealot, idler. Yeah. I think if I had baby
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um read like the uh the the cast names like i might have picked up a little bit on it but like why don't you uh just talk before we like get into what happens in the movie why don't you just talk a little bit about what you read like the you know the biblical significance
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Well, I think we should kind of go through the movie, but Darren Aronofsky, for those who don't know, he directed Pie, Requiem for a Dream, The Fountain, The Wrestler, Black Swan, Noah, and then Mother. And maybe I need to go back and watch Noah, because I feel like that's his only straight one. I guess the Wrestlers have a straight movie. Dude, I did not actually finish Noah.
Biblical Allegories in 'Mother'
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Does it get as weird as all his other films?
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I didn't finish it. I mean, you know, it was like kind of cool in the beginning, but like the story is just so fucking ridiculous. And like, you know, Russell Crowe, apparently Noah was like a fucking
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like straight up like um with the ninja turtle that fought with the stick you know like where they called the bow like he yeah dude yeah he was like like noah was like a dead nasty marsh artist like he was a straight up warrior like you know what i mean like he was a filipino stick fighter yeah i passed
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Sorry, Darren Aronofsky, he's an atheist, which I just found out about as I was reading more about it. But like, that's very, that's very interesting. It's very surprising the fact that the amount of biblical stuff he has in his film was he always an atheist or did he like become an atheist?
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I don't know when he became an atheist, but he's been an atheist since he started directing as far as I can tell. So he's been like, he's been like kind of like mocking these films as he's been creating them.
00:13:36
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I guess it's just a lot of allegories to the Bible because the Bible is full of great stories. It's awesome stories. I think it was Malcolm
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Malcolm McDowell in Clockwork Orange, he gives that great thing where he's in prison and you know, everybody's reading the Bible in prison and he's, you know, talking about like his favorite parts of the Bible and how like the book wasn't as bad as he thought. Like, you know what I mean? Like, so yeah, I mean, there's some like really cool things that happen in the Bible. It's just like the people that take it literally are scary to
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Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, I came about this movie. I like I had heard about it when it came out and I was like, oh, it's Darren Aronofsky. I'm like, I'm sure I'll see it. But then it kind of like went under the radar. And I believe a lot of that had to do with it only made like seven point five million in the in the box office, which Scorsese, I think, came out recently and was like, yeah, we need to stop judging movies by how they do in the box office. Yeah. That's surprising to me, too, just considering the cast. Jennifer Lawrence.
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Ed Harris, Michelle Pfeiffer, and Javier Burdam. I'm saying this last name, right? I think it's Burdam. Those are four very big names.
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You know what I mean? So like, I'm surprised that it wouldn't just on like star recognition. And then, you know, there's some other honorable mentions there. Yeah, I mean, and Michelle Pfeiffer just quickly mentioned somehow like she looks like 10 to 15 years younger than the last time I saw her. I don't know if she had worked on or like maybe like
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She's going through like some kind of Benjamin Button thing. Like, but she looks massively younger. Like she was like, you know, I don't know, man. She's like going backwards. Like she was like looking like Scarface, like Michelle Pfeiffer. Just observation.
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Yeah, the I think the other reason was like like that. That was the opening weekend that it made 7.5 and it also got a rare F cinema score as well. I think it was just marketed poorly because Darren Aronowski is I'm sorry. What an F cinema score. Yeah. What what exact that's just like.
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You know, that's like getting an F grade. Yeah. Yeah. The cinema score is like, they're just like a rating agency. They're just like a critic. I think it's a, um, yeah, like a user, uh, like Ron tomato, something like that. Angry fans. That's one of my, that's one of my personal favorites. Yeah. I think it was kind of a marketer poorly because Arnavsky was involved heavily in the marketing and he wanted
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he didn't want like a lot of things given away in the trailer and like, and he both wrote and direct, right? Yeah. Yeah. So, and it's, and it's not really for everyone at what I do think it was marketed poorly because like,
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when it came out. I never heard of it until you told me
Audience Interpretations & Director's Insights
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about it. Yeah. And then I heard about it and I like didn't hear good things about it. And I was like, oh, that's upsetting because I really like his movies. And then finally, like maybe like a month ago, I was like looking for something to watch since we were kind of in a level of movies over the summer. And I was like, and it popped up. I think it was on like Showtime or HBO Max or one of those. I forget what it was on. But I was like, all right, I'm going to watch it. Fuck it.
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And I thought it was, I thought it was really good. Like, uh, it gave me such fucking anxiety that watching like up to like, uh, probably the whole movie, I would say it was giving me a lot of anxiety. And I thought Jennifer Lawrence performance was really good.
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Her performance is always really good. She's just really good. And yeah, I did catch some of the allegories into the Bible. I knew that she was kind of like a representation of like Mother Earth.
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And then I caught some of the Bible stuff later on. But then after I like read like Arnofsky like kind of go through and explain everything, it kind of dawned on me at that point. I was like, oh, OK, that makes a lot of sense. So if I were to go back and rewatch it, you would notice all those things a lot better.
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And it makes more sense, but I guess it left people like really confused with what was going on that he had actually had a camp come out and like, well, and some directors won't be like, yeah, it's up to interpretation. He was like, no, this is exactly what I was going for. Like, cause I guess people were misinterpreted to being like, uh, him having like writer's block and wanting the spotlight on him or stuff. And he was like, no, that's not what this is about at all. It's straight up like, uh, almost beat for beat, like, uh, things, things from the Bible about God and mother earth and.
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and religion and stuff like that, so.
Personal Reactions to 'Mother'
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Yeah, but before I read that, what were your initial reactions? Well, I watched it with two other people and we all liked it. I didn't get like the buildup. You had told me like a little bit about it and you just had said that like you didn't mention anything about like religion or like, you know, deeper meanings or anything.
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You just told me it was a movie, um, where Jennifer Lawrence like starred where her and her husband moved into a new house. And like these people just start showing up and like, you know, uh, hostility started building because Jennifer Lawrence like wasn't feeling the company. And, um, you just told me that at one point things escalated quickly is how you put it. Yeah.
00:19:40
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And you had told me that, cause I wasn't like really feeling that great at the time. And you said, well, you might want to wait until you're feeling better because like this movie, like, you know, really builds up anxiety and then things escalate very quickly. Well, I mean, that is like putting it extremely mildly. Like this was a bit more than escalation. You know, this like went from like,
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just normal, like, you know, every day, fucking like wheelings and dealings, personal conflicts to a bad day in Bosnia, babies, you know, people eating babies, fucking, you know, Armageddon, like literal Armageddon.
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Um, I, I watched it with some other people. We all liked it. I didn't have the anxiety so much because like I was watching it with other people and I had sort of like we had, you know, uh, we were led to believe that it was going to be anxiety provoking.
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We laugh kind of a lot because the so-called escalation, as you put it, when things just went off the loony bin and everything just went nuts, like I thought it was going to be a situation where Jennifer Lawrence just got really fucking fed up. And I assume that there was probably going to be some violence. You know, I expect that maybe some people might get killed or badly hurt.
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or even like Jennifer Lawrence like flipping out and getting like a turkey carver and like running in like, you know, something like that happening where like, you know, there was a bit of a massacre, there were murders and stuff like that. I didn't think that there were going to be like people getting executed, the military like storming the house.
00:21:43
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people throwing mall talks in the kitchen, people literally eating babies. Yeah, I didn't know that that was going to happen. I didn't realize that at the end the house was going to be like literally ripped apart because there were like thousands of people that were like getting in and like on the property went from like fucking a dozen people to like 50 people.
Symbolism and Allegory in 'Mother'
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And then like within like literally like
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five movie minutes there were thousands of people like swarming the ground yeah and we should mention that this entire movie takes place in the house too so yeah what like all that happens at the same time pretty much she was looking outside like the window at one point and like she just saw like
00:22:35
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coming out of the woods there were just hordes of people like you know i mean there was an endless supply of people coming so like you know what i mean in like another 10 movie minutes there could have easily been like
00:22:49
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Woodstock times 20 there. Like you know what I mean? Like it was just absolutely surreal insanity. So like I was like just kind of laughing about how buck wild things were getting until like that baby's neck got snapped and they show it and they
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the crunching sound. And I was just kind of like, all right, wow, we have lost cabin pressure. I did not really pick up on the biblical stuff. I wasn't looking for it. Like, I just I don't know. I thought it was about a guy that was like coming to the country
00:23:25
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with his pregnant fragile wife and he had writer's block and there was just some kooky shit going on. I did not pick up on like, you know, the, the Bible references. I just saw it as like pure insanity until like the very end when they started eating babies. Then I started picking up on, all right, the body of Christ and way, oh, the Armageddon. Yeah. That's about when I picked up on the rapture. I was like,
00:23:55
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at the very end, I was like, Oh, all right. That's sort of like where he was going. But I would all this have kind of preferred if like, that wasn't the case and things just really got that buck. Yeah.
00:24:09
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So she was pregnant when they were like that was a like that was his childhood home and they were rebuilding it after a fire which it opens up from a fire but you think that's kind of like the end of the movie but it's actually it actually is the beginning it's the fire cleansing the earth and Jennifer Lawrence plays Mother Earth
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and Javier Bowden plays God who is like he's struggling with his writing he's written you know it's kind of about like the Old Testament and the New Testament in a way and when he comes up with this new writings that's when he and then he decides to create Adam who is Ed Harris
00:24:50
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And then from Adam, he's sick that one night. If you look, he's missing a rib at one point. And the rib was Michelle Pfeiffer who comes in, and then their two sons come in. And that's Cain and Abel. Yeah, I missed all that. I just thought things were just getting real out of hand. You know what I mean?
00:25:15
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Yeah, it was just Lawrence fully pregnant in the beginning of the movie. No, she doesn't get pregnant until they have sex that one time because she argues with him about him not wanting her and she doesn't feel loved anymore because they came into their life.
00:25:33
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Yeah, when he gives him a love so she doesn't get pregnant to like midway through the movie. I believe yeah, I noticed that as being very, very strange. Yeah, that that definitely that definitely sparked. Well, something up there.
00:25:49
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Yeah, so like, yeah, none of the characters names are mentioned. So he's only mentioned as like him and her and but he represent he's like a poet or he's God and like out of boredom like to like help him, you know, create more like he creates Adam and Eve who proceed to destroy
00:26:08
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you know earth's creation or mother nature which that crystal that was in the in his study his study represents garden of evil eating and the crystal represents the apple and they destroy the apple so then the and then the quarrel and sons are can enable then one
Intense Themes & Climax of 'Mother'
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of them
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gets murdered, then they have like that funeral and all these people start coming in. Like that's when my anxiety started kicking in was like when all these people were coming in and she was telling people not to do actually it started with Ed Harris was like smoking and like not listening to her. But then again, like keeps going with like people like sitting on the sink and like she's like stops it. Like don't sit there. It's not fucking secure. And when they break the sink, that represents the great flood.
00:26:58
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And then so then, yeah, God impregnates mother later on and then gives birth to the Messiah. And then the chaotic sequence followed is communion and revelations. So, yeah, that's. I thought Jennifer Lawrence personally like took things pretty well, like, you know, compared to like everything that was happening to her. Yeah.
00:27:24
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people start ripping shit off the walls and they're like, I want a piece of this. And she's like, what are you doing? Like, they started. Why isn't anybody listening to her? Dude, they started beating the fucking shit out of her at one point, like just like bashing, like kicking her face in like it was like, yeah, I mean.
00:27:48
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shit got really hardcore. Like it really popped off. Like, you know what I mean? Really got out of the hair fast. When they're passing the baby down, the baby's just peeing on people and then the neck snaps. So then they're fucking immediately eating the baby. You see the baby's face like go back and like, you know, you just see the baby's face like, eh, and then there's like, you see your neck snap in the ear of the trunk.
00:28:15
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Yeah. And like, she's just like, Oh God. Like, you know what I mean? But like, and then they were eating the baby, like eating the babies were all flesh and like, she was like wrestling the flesh from this woman's mouth.
00:28:32
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And like, even then I was just like, you know, dude, I think I would have been a lot more unhappy if I were her. Like she was handling things really well. I mean, she didn't kill at least one person, I believe. Well, of course, you're going to kill somebody. Yeah, that's when they ganged up on her and like, yeah, the living shit out of her. But yeah, she's just trying to escape. She does the whole movie barefoot, too. Does she? Well, she pulls a McLean. Yeah. Well,
00:29:03
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Yeah, and she is an amazing talent. And yeah, she was great. And like I said, I would have preferred that they just like cut out the Bible references and just really made things get that fuck out of control. Like it was just supposed to like be that way. Like, you know, I mean, things just really got out of hand.
00:29:24
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Like I don't know you could have made you could have made like maybe like UFOs involved or something like that. I like the I like the I like the Bible references. I don't think I would just like to get really fucking wild out of control. Maybe not even say why people got that rage felt like people just really like the guy's writing. Yeah.
00:29:48
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Well, I mean, that's what it was about. It was like, really, it was about overs, you know, the zealous fucking, you know, religious nuts, you know, they. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get it now. I'm just saying for me, I think it would have been cool. Things just got completely out of hand for no reason.
00:30:07
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Yeah, I don't think it would have worked then. Yeah, I don't understand. I would I could have like gone without it. I just would have liked it to be that fucking buck wild. But like what I'm saying is is like I really like I really enjoyed it.
Impact & Significance of 'Mother'
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I did not have any of the anxiety. Maybe it's because like you prepared me for it or I don't know. You were watching it with people. I was watching it. I was watching it with people. But like you were prepared. I went back and rewound.
00:30:37
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Like right to when like all the people start showing up like right before you know People just start like walking in and eating chocolate cake and stuff like that Because like at first, you know, they're just eating their food and shit and she's like what the fuck like yeah What the fuck is going up boy? I would bounce if I were Jennifer what like I was split like a while before this shit started happening
00:31:01
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It was her home. You know what I mean? Like where is she? I would have just taken the fuck off. She kept pleading to have your boat on like to make these people leave. She was like, he was like, no, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Yeah. Yeah. I would be like, yo, man, like either ongoing crazy or he's a fucking whack job or like, you know, some crazy event has taken place like an alien invasion.
00:31:30
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or like, you know, somebody introduced like LSD into the atmosphere and like every, like the entire town just got mad. Like I was just bounced on foot barefoot. She tried to bounce, but it was a little too late when she tried. Yeah, it was a little too late. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, when Molotov start getting thrown in the kitchen,
00:31:55
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Yeah, then you're too late. There is no escape. I mean, she escaped in her own way at the end. Yeah. I mean, but like I'm just saying, like, I probably I think most people have probably been out of there beforehand or I don't know. I would have just like gotten a bottle on foot and went through the woods. Yeah.
00:32:18
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Yeah, or like gotten a bottle or like just start powering the shit like start trying to get as fucked up as possible. So like, you know, maybe rage it as hard as they're raging it shit got really fucking rage fell really, really quickly. And um,
00:32:36
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Yeah, it was just total fucking chaos at the end. We watched the movie. If you missed it like we did, definitely go back and check it out. But, you know, if it sounds like we're just ranting in cochlear gibberish, that's because it just gets like completely like incoherently like chaotic and like everything is because everything happens like so fast and go fast and just get so
Production Quality & Chaotic Scenes
00:33:02
Speaker
ridiculous. Yeah.
00:33:04
Speaker
Like, you know, you go from her being mad that people are like, you know, in her house, eating her food to her pulling the flesh of her child out of an old woman's mouth, like four minutes later. So like, yeah, things escalate quickly. But like, yeah, I don't know. I was laughing a lot because like, you know, of how ridiculous it was. So like,
00:33:30
Speaker
I didn't really have any anxiety from it. Yeah, I was watching it with other people, but I think even if I was just watching it alone, like I would have like still been kind of laughing.
00:33:42
Speaker
Oh, there's definitely parts where I was laughing, but they obviously made like a lot of it when people weren't listening to her and didn't like leave that. That's when I was like, man, this is giving me fucking anxiety. If they don't fucking listen to her and get out of her fucking house, like I was like, I feel for her character so much right now. So it was really well choreographed.
00:34:03
Speaker
Like everything, like it was really well choreographed. Like, you know, like this setup, I would have loved to have been on set to just watch how they did all that. Like, I think that it would have been great to just be sitting back in the chair and like just watching that production process. I would have loved to have been there to see that. I think that would have been really, really, really great to see how they did that because like, you know,
Concluding Thoughts on 'Mother'
00:34:34
Speaker
like and there were so many people involved in it like there wasn't i mean i guess there there was some cgi but like a lot of it like you know it was just like there were just massive amounts of people on set like all like you know just moving in like this like weight like this chaotic like vibration like it was just
00:34:58
Speaker
Really well done. It was, it was like controlled chaos. Like it was, yeah, it's something like very, very special that I can't really talk too much more about because it's something you really just have to
00:35:13
Speaker
seed to experience. Yeah, absolutely. The exclamation point at the end of the title, Darnofsky said, that's a reference to the last 30 minutes of the film. And that makes a lot of sense.
00:35:29
Speaker
Well, I mean, the last 30 minutes. Oh, yeah. The last 30. I thought you I for some reason thought you meant last 30 seconds. Now, the last 30 minutes. Actually, the last like, you know, like minute or two of the film, like it actually does slow down. But like.
00:35:48
Speaker
You know, yeah, the exclamation point to represent. I wouldn't say 30 minutes were that while this is coming from Darren Arnowski. So that's what the exclamation points were. But yeah, I get that. I'm just saying like the last 30 minutes in the movie to me were that chaotic. It was maybe like the last 10 minutes in the movie to me that like were real chaotic, maybe 15.
00:36:14
Speaker
but like up until up until like the point where like people just started like tearing fucking like siding off of the like interior of the house like things were like sort of like you know like just what the fuck but like yeah when people start like ripping piping out of the sink yeah well i think that starts about the last 30 minutes because the last like five ten minutes is her cleansing is her doing the cleansing
00:36:43
Speaker
It's not the last thirty no there's not yeah you need to go back and watch it i think you need to go back and i will tell you what will mention the next cast will go back and take a look at but i'm pretty sure it's more like the last like.
00:36:59
Speaker
15 maybe 20 minutes before things really start getting ridiculous. Like, you know what I mean? Like the baby does not get eaten until like the last 10 minutes of the movie. So like, you know what I mean? Like after once the baby gets eaten, like the movie ends like a few minutes later, like where she blows everything up. So I don't think it's as quick as you think you remember, but yeah.
00:37:28
Speaker
Well, I went back and watched this a few times. We will mention it. We'll mention the next test. But like, yeah, don't get me wrong. The last 30 minutes were very fucking chaotic. Yeah. I just think that like the last.
00:37:44
Speaker
Like, I don't remember Molotovs getting thrown in the kitchen on, you know, at the fucking SWAT team that came in the house. You just have to say it. But like fucking like, I don't remember that happening until like the last like 15 minutes of the film. But like, yeah, but it's formation point. I'm saying it's like very, very well there. I'm saying it starts when people start tearing shit off the walls.
00:38:11
Speaker
Yeah. And I believe that starts within the last 30 minutes. I don't think so. But like I could be wrong. I'll go back and check. But yeah, I know the Molotov and the baby eating weren't till the last like 1510. Yeah, sure. I don't remember people ripping things up.
00:38:29
Speaker
Hey, it doesn't matter. The main thing is it was an awesome movie. If you missed it, you got to check it out. Like, you know, we can't do it. We can't do it like justice with just this discussion. It's very unique film. You really need to just see it and experience it yourself. Absolutely.
00:38:49
Speaker
Yeah, but it was it was amazing. Like I could go on and on about it a lot longer. But you just you really need to check it out. It was a it was a hidden gem that totally passed me by. I'm really glad that you told me about it. It definitely sticks with you because it's been like a good month since I've seen it. And I still remember like everything that happens in the movie. But you're not going to forget any time soon.
00:39:15
Speaker
But anyway, that's that's it. That's that's mother. Check it out if you missed. It is a fucking roller coaster. Yeah. Thanks for joining me and thanks for listening and we'll catch you next time. All right. Talk to you later, buddy. Peace.