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Tony and Jody Chat With World Class Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Competitor Janine Mocaiber
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Tony and Jodie catch up with Brazilian jiu-jitsu competitor Janine Mocaiber. Janine helps run and coaches at Oshawa BJJ and Fitness.
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Introduction and Special Guest Announcement
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and another thing and another thing and another thing and another thing
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Welcome to another episode of And Another Thing, the podcast that continues to set the bar in the world of podcasts. My name is Jody Jenkins. My name is Tony Clement. And we are switching it up today with our guest. We have someone from, well, we won't say yet, but I think it's a first for the show. Safe to say that? Yeah, I think we, yeah, definitely. Yeah. Well, it's an athlete. We can say it's an athlete.
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Yeah, we've had athletes before. We had that skier that won something. She was in the Olympics. Yeah. And we had a professional wrestler. Yes. Yes. We did have a professional wrestler. Yeah. We had two of them. We had the other guy who was the other guy, the guy who became the mayor.
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became the mayor. Oh, Matt Morgan. That's right. I forgot about that in Longwood. That's great. Both former WWF, WWE superstars. That's right. Actually, I saw a post from him the other day. He's like, um, he's really tight with DeSantis down there in Florida. Well, he should be running for Congress eventually. Well, I'm wondering what's going on there and I won't be surprised if something comes up down the road. And I also was thinking we should get him back on. Yeah, no, he's terrific. I really enjoyed him and, uh,
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Yeah, we've had we've had a string of athletes. That's only three. OK, we've had three. We've had over 100 and I think we're about almost 160 shows now and only three athletes. So it hasn't really been our forte. No, we had Mark Hebscher.
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He's not an athlete, but nobody reports on them. I'm I'm I'm scratching the bottom of the barrel here. Yeah, I was going to say we had that guy that went to a J's game. That was close enough for an athlete. Exactly.
Sponsor Acknowledgements and New Partnerships
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Discussion on 'The Boys' and Its Themes
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Exactly. Before we get to our guest, I want to bring this up now just quickly because I, do you have Prime? You watch Prime? Yes, of course. Okay, so I just started watching. I'm into the third season already and maybe you've already watched this all, but an unbelievable show called The Boys. Have you watched that?
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Oh, you know, I watched a couple of episodes and I found it too dark for me. Did you? Oh, my gosh. I think so. What I was going to say is it's very gory to a certain degree. It's lots of inappropriate stuff. I mean, definitely wouldn't let the kids watch it. But man, the story is so different and cool that it all good premise. It all fits in. And it's not like it's almost like comic booky gore because it's like
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You know, that couldn't happen in real life kind of thing. But man, you, I think you should keep watching it. I don't know. I'm, I'm, I'm freaking hooked. So it's a filmed in Toronto. Seriously? Yeah. Really? Absolutely. Apparently that's a real comic book to the boys. Yeah. I just, uh, it's like, I never got through, um, what's that one, uh, that everybody loves, uh, with the ad agency.
00:06:05
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Mad Men. Yeah, Mad Men. I've never watched it. I found that too dark for me too. I haven't even watched Breaking Bad. Oh no, that one I love. That one. And I haven't even, like I've tried, I'm a huge Lord of the Rings fan. I have tried Power of the Ring or whatever the new one. I haven't even gotten through the first episode. Okay. But the boys, I just couldn't stop watching it. The Netflix series I just finished was Ancient Apocalypse. Have you heard of that one? No. It's a documentary series, eight parts about
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with the theory that there was an ancient worldwide civilization that was destroyed by the flood and there are echoes of their existence in architecture and ancient ruins and so on. It's really quite interesting.
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Speaking of ancient worldwide civilizations, how are the NDP doing? We'll have to get Charlie Angus back on the program.
Interview with Janine McIver: Achievements and Background
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We're going to get serious. We have, we're very pleased to have Janine McIber. Is that how you pronounce it, Janine? Yeah, that's it.
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Janine McIber. She is a world-class Brazilian and jiu-jitsu competitor. She is a world champion, two times Pan Am champion. And she runs a jiu-jitsu Academy, but maybe tell us the name of the Academy right at the front end here. What's the name of your name? The name of the Academy is our show. I'll be JJ and fitness. Okay, good. And, uh, we should, uh, mention for the, uh, delight of our fans that you are the daughter of John Mutton.
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That's saying something nice to write municipal solutions, isn't it? Exactly. John will be happy that we made that connection. So tell us, obviously we want to hear about your life as a world class Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competitor. So first of all, maybe describe what Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is.
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Okay, so Brazilian jiu-jitsu is a grappling style martial art. It actually started, I want to say with the Gracie family, but it goes further back than that with Mitsuyo Maeda.
00:08:23
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It's essentially, I guess there's a few different types, right? Like you have Japanese jiu-jitsu, you have Brazilian jiu-jitsu, but everything really originated from the same place. Like Mitsuyo Maeda was a jigoka, right? And like, which basically everything like comes from Japan. We bring it here, the Brazilians stole it and made it better or tougher, I guess, and so on. So it's everything that happens,
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from standing to the ground. Um, it doesn't involve striking Japanese sujitsu. However, you do strike to enter into a takedown. So there is a little bit of differences. Is it like a wrestling thing then?
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Yeah, so when you're watching Jujitsu, it looks a lot similar to Judo and wrestling together on the feet. And then with Jujitsu, it's a little bit different than Judo, where you have 10 seconds to finish somebody on the ground. In Jujitsu, you have the whole match. So you have people who maybe do not do a takedown. They do what's called pulling guard, and they actually pull someone into their guard and work on reversals, which are called sweeps or submissions.
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The person on top is looking to do things like pass the guard, which would be like getting a chest on chest connection and getting around the legs, mounting your opponent, taking their back and basically just like progressively gaining positional dominance. And how did you get into this sport?
Janine's Journey in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
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Honestly, Tony, it was the weirdest thing. I was going through, I would say midlife crisis, but I was like 23. I didn't know what to do with myself. I was really, I guess bored might've been the word. I was competing in bodybuilding, in BMX.
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And both of them like bmx is really great but longevity and something like that you know i wanted to use my brain for work and i figured the more i hit my head the less likely that's gonna work for me and bodybuilding was just so.
00:10:32
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I don't know, like you trained so hard and then you just stand there. And for me, it wasn't fulfilling. I was like looking at the people who I was training with in the room, if I did a conditioning class or something like that. And I always worked harder than everybody. And I said, man, I have to find something that I can compete in.
00:10:51
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that rewards me for my hard work as opposed to my genetics or how my tan looks once I'm spray tanned. So you found that the more you trained, there would be a payoff.
00:11:05
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Yeah. So there's a funny expression, like the harder you train, the luckier you get. Okay. Okay. Fair enough. Right. Right. So, um, I actually stumbled into jujitsu by starting doing Muay Thai privates. So, uh, at the time I was working at, are you game conditioning club here in Oshawa? Um, the owners, Kim and Gordon McPhail, um, they hired me. I was a young buck right after I stopped working for my dad. Um,
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Gord, Kim's husband, said, hey, you know, if you if you stop working for your dad, like, that's okay, we'll figure it out. So he gave me the first opportunity working there. And he already worked with a lot of the guys that went to Brockman martial arts, which was the one like an only gym for Brazilian Jiu Jitsu in Oshawa, which Justin, for those of you guys who don't know, like he competed as high up as fighting George St. Pierre.
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in MMA, so he's got a lot of really OG guys who are up there. So is there a lot of crossover between MMA and jiu-jitsu then? Absolutely. I would say like a lot of people who get into MMA that have, let's say, black belts in jiu-jitsu who are legitimate, they do quite well, right? I think right now if you watch
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the way things are going in the UFC, you see a lot of success with the people who have great jujitsu, or even maybe we'll go as far as saying like Sambo, right? Which is very similar, like if you look at Kabib, right? So these privates I was doing, they were in exchange for a nutrition and like workout program for one of the black belts that came to the gym. And he said, I can't afford to pay you. It's a lot of money.
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At the time, I think it was like $200 a month or something like that. And you know, that's a lot. Um, and he's like, I want to get ready for this super fight that I have. Um, so how about this? Like I can, I actually, I offered the suggestion like, Hey, I can do like privates with you for Muay Thai or something. Cause I want to get back in shape at the time I was injured.
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and I'll do your meal plan and your workouts for you." And he goes, okay, that actually sounds like a deal. So we started doing that together and we ended up becoming really good friends and a couple weeks into it, maybe a month into the Muay Thai privates, you know, it was hard. I wouldn't say it was completely unenjoyable, but it was definitely not my fourth, like not really what I liked. I felt like the more tired I got, the more I was just punching air.
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But one day I said, can you show me how to do an armbar or something like that? And he says, no, you have to come to my classes if you want to learn jiu jitsu. I will not show you here. And I'm like, OK, deal. So I drove to Warrior Fight Store in Pickering. I bought a gi. I showed up at the gym. And it was awesome.
00:14:05
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nostalgic because the drills we did reminded me of wrestling in the ninth grade. So I was hooked right away. So I immediately began doing a class every day or two. It was awesome. And we should probably, if you can fast forward, you've had some recent successes. So maybe just tell our audience about some of your successes internationally.
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OK, so the first world title, we always joke, doesn't count because I was a white belt. And then the other four was one. I won the JJAF Worlds in 2018 in Sweden. I won double gold, which means weight and absolute, which is open weight division in 2021 in Las Vegas at the Master Worlds as a brown belt. And then this year was my first year at Black Belt.
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And I competed in the JJIF World Championship again in Abu Dhabi. And I won. So I'm the two time world champion in their federation. That's awesome. And overall fourth time, anything above Blue Belt. Right, right, right. Well, congratulations for doing all that. I, you know, it sounds like, because I hear about Brazilian jiu-jitsu a lot,
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Uh, is the sport becoming more popular, would you say? I would say it's one of the fastest growing sports, um, in terms of, uh, combat sports for sure. And sports overall, like I would say it's probably one of the fastest growing and people are turning away from things like karate and Taekwondo, um, to do jujitsu instead. And is that, is it because of the connection with MMA or is it just organic?
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I would say it's a little bit more organic. It's very new still here. Like it's not as popular here yet in some of the smaller cities or anything like that. Whereas you see like some of the smaller towns, they might have like a karate dojo or their community center host judo there, right? So it's a little bit still, it's a little bit new to some communities. So I'd say like in the larger cities you see like a bigger,
00:16:18
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influx of people who train Brazilian jiu jitsu. In the States, it's extremely popular. They've really popularized the Novi aspect of Brazilian jiu jitsu, which looks a little bit more like wrestling. So I would call it more submission wrestling. And yeah, like, I think one big thing is you saw
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through the years, a lot of any like any Joe Blow goes and gets a karate black belt easily by just like checking off the boxes of how many classes they attended, whereas Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is a lot harder to obtain. And I don't know, I feel like a lot of people not to knock it because there's a lot of really, really tough guys in Taekwondo karate,
The Popularity and Recognition of Jiu-Jitsu
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etc.
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but i find that you can't really fake brazilian jiu jitsu and some people really want that authentic martial art that's really going to teach your child how to protect ourselves and because it's so hands on. I think that almost makes it more popular but it also separates some of the people right like you get people who are in or you get people who are like who.
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Oh, hands on. No, no. I'm going to go do this instead. Right. Right. Okay. Gotcha. And that's probably something you emphasize at your academy too. Like this is a life affirming, you know, you acquire skills that are going to be helpful to you in life later on. Right.
00:17:43
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Absolutely. I think that, uh, I've learned more about myself and I have improved who I am as a person in the last seven years doing jujitsu more than any of the years of my life. And I mean, yeah, maybe because I'm a bit older, but at the same time, like jujitsu teaches you what type of person you are, how you handle conflict. And as you learn to resolve these problems, you therefore become a better person in terms of dealing with it in jujitsu in your life.
00:18:12
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etc. Like I'm a really impulsive person, I sometimes like jump to do things. And I find in jujitsu, when I am like that, I make mistakes, I get myself submitted. So I'm a bit more patient, etc. And, and things like this, for me specifically, don't even cover like, the changes you see in the kids that are coming up these days, you know, we got five year old kids, three year old kids, some of them with behavioral issues, especially after the pandemic. And
00:18:43
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you see like incremental changes, but those incremental changes are character changes. Interesting. So tell us and a little bit about, I know you, you've just started an effort to get the sport sort of more recognized by federal authorities and, uh, you know, by the elite sports kind of infrastructure that we have in this country. Tell a little bit more about that. Okay. So, um,
00:19:13
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Over the past few years, while we've been competing for the Jiu-Jitsu International Federation for Team Canada, not only have we done extremely well, but we've been in the top three countries with finishing placements, right?
00:19:27
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And that's like overall, and they have three different, four different categories. And we're only representing the jiu-jitsu category. So when we go to these events, they have the jiu-jitsu nuaza, they have fighting style, which is a little bit more like I was explaining with the Japanese jiu-jitsu, where you strike first, and then you can go for the takedown, submission, et cetera.
00:19:49
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Um, we have the duos, which are, it's kind of like a, I wouldn't want to say an act, but you have a pair who are orchestrating like a, like a demo fight.
00:20:02
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Right. And we don't even bring people to these other disciplines. We just bring them for the Nuwaza Jiu Jitsu component. Everything else, like we don't bring anybody. So we're doing that well with just 20, I believe it was 21 or 24 athletes we brought this year.
00:20:20
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to that tournament when other countries have like 50 or more athletes competing in the tournament. And just with that small group of people that we brought, we were able to get in the top three. Now, when we started competing, we started uncovering that other countries, even third world countries,
00:20:38
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they were receiving funding for their government. And they started asking us, are you guys paid to be here? Do you guys receive bursaries to be here? And we said no, we're just like, we're just here. And we came to find out that not only do they receive like, as little or as much as 10,000 US dollars just to be on the team for the national team. But when they podium,
00:21:03
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they receive like a bursary or funding from the government for making it to the podium for a second or third.
00:21:12
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between those two things and seeing the salaries that are being given out between, let's say, other countries, Olympic athletes or other countries, athletes just within Jiu Jitsu, it really made me stop to think like, man, everybody's asking us and each year, each more countries ask us why we're not, why we do this if we're not getting anything out of it. We're always for the glory, Canada for the glory. Right, right, right. Pat on the back. Yeah, exactly. But I was like, man, like,
00:21:42
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A lot of us are not amateur. We are professional athletes. The amount that we train, the amount of dedication that we put in our nutrition workouts, um, our sports specific training, which is sometimes up to five hours a day. Um, you know, we're professional athletes. We're not amateurs anymore. We're black belts who have put in the time who are arriving, not just on the podium, but at the top of the podium, who are drug tested regularly.
00:22:10
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to make sure they're in compliance with WADA. I was like, man, something's got to give. So the first thing I thought was like, man, I have the knowledge to go and start lobbying or just working towards what we can do to improve. And the only way we can improve is if somebody tries to make something happen for the athletes. So when we got back,
00:22:29
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I decided to reach out to first and foremost the ministry, like the provincial government, and then the federal government, just sending a couple emails out to see if I could get meetings to start discussing what we can do to either start working towards getting funding, to change the wording and the policy of something like on the podium, which only really caters to national sports organizations that are affiliated with Sports Canada.
00:22:58
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And really, a lot of them just look to say that they're Olympic sports. But what's to say that we're not elite? You know, we don't need to be in the Olympics to be elite. Right. Right. And would it change automatically if if if this became an Olympic sport, would it change automatically that you'd be considered elite Olympian athletes all of a sudden? Well, I believe so. But the problem with that is
00:23:24
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who is behind the doors and on the board of the CJA and the OJA. I'm not trying to throw shade on them, but it doesn't seem like they have the best interest to really, really growing the sport. And I feel like the people who are coming up in the ranks now and our head coach, we have a little bit more of an interest in growing the sport. Got it. A lot of the guys that sit on the board are
00:23:51
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you know like maybe like 50 year old karate guys who don't really they don't compete anymore whereas our head coach he's going there and he's coaching us and he's staying excuse me and he's staying to compete in the masters part of the tournament which
00:24:09
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shows that he's still practicing what he preaches. He's putting it on the line. He's trying to help with development of us, making sure that we have all the up-to-date techniques, anything that he sees that's really coming up. He makes sure that we're competent and understanding the skill.
00:24:30
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And I just don't feel like the board, uh, is really doing much. And I'm not sure if it's just because they're guys with full-time jobs. I don't really care, but I've never met anybody on the board. I've never received a letter from the CJA, the OJA.
00:24:44
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ever for any of the efforts that I've put in and neither has anybody that is on the Canadian team. We also had a girl who won the World Games, which is every two years, there are Olympic sports that compete in the World Games. Again, there was a girl from Israel, I believe she won 100 or 150,000 US dollars for being on the podium. I'm not sure which spot. Wow. Yeah.
00:25:13
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girl who won the World Games, we didn't, she didn't get a letter from anybody from the government. She didn't get a letter from anybody from our PSO or NSO. And she didn't get a letter. She didn't get her picture in the paper, like nothing. Yeah. So it sounds like it's, it's about respect and about recognition. And obviously there is, there are finances involved because it's expensive going to all these world tournaments and
00:25:36
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and so on. So that's got to be the message to the sports kind of hierarchy in our country, I suppose. Yeah, like the biggest thing I see here is like it goes full circle. Like we need to have better people who are responsible for fundraising and funding. We can't just have a website with a PayPal link that says, hey,
00:25:59
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donate. Who's going to go to our website? They don't even know that that page exists. So we need somebody who is advocating for that. We need somebody who is running an Instagram social media account. We don't even have Instagram or social media for the Ontario Jiu-Jitsu Association. And I feel like something as simple as recognizing or congratulating the athletes for their efforts is a very small but
00:26:27
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great gesture to show, hey, we're paying attention to you and we appreciate you representing us. The funding is as simple as reaching out to certain people. If you think about it, $10,000 is a bursary to be on the national team and 14 of the spots are earned by the people who win their weight classes.
00:26:51
Speaker
That's $14,000. That's really, really not much money for some of these large organizations, especially the government. And that's just talking about getting a bursary to be on the team. Understood. Hey, Jody, what are your thoughts on all this?
Potential Career Moves for Janine in Wrestling and UFC
00:27:07
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Yeah, I know it's interesting. I mean, I've followed the sport for a while, so I think it's cool that we have Janine on. I did want to ask Janine,
00:27:14
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with, as we mentioned off the top of the show, we talked a little bit about pro wrestlers, but so I'm a huge fan of pro wrestling. I know there's been a lot of crossover between mixed martial arts athletes and wrestlers, especially with the men and now so with women, Ronda Rousey, Shayna Baszler, Marina Shafir and Paige Van Zandt being one of the newest ones, but
00:27:37
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Would you ever consider looking at opportunities like that? Because I know they look at sports specific athletes. And if you've got some charisma, you could probably make a lot of money in the WWE.
00:27:49
Speaker
It's funny that you asked that. I know that there is so much money in it, but for me, it's a show, right? It's a reality show. And for me, I don't think I could put myself there because I know a lot of it is staged and I really do enjoy doing everything I can to showcase a win. Yeah. Do you think people like Ronda Rousey, do you think they made the move
00:28:15
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just for money or did they see that maybe their career inside the world of MMA was probably, she's probably done what she could do and that there were younger, more up and coming stars coming or what do you think the head space is? So I think it was the latter because who wouldn't want to make like a million dollars or what millions of dollars I guess doing pro wrestling, but the latter because
00:28:40
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She really paved the way for women in MMA, and even though I was not her biggest fan, I really felt like she was kind of more like a one-trick pony.
00:28:53
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She was fighting a lot of girls who you have to look at who came up with her and assess that, right? Because it was such a, like the sport was so much different earlier in the days. Whereas now you have all these women who are highly skilled. Whereas before you might have somebody who might be like, you know, a blue belt in jiu-jitsu who like recreationally does boxing, who decided they wanted to compete. They fought some people, they're tougher than the other chick.
00:29:19
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And then they got an invite to UFC, you know what I mean? Like, so I'm not saying that they weren't skilled by any means, but you know, you have to assess like how the level was. And then she fought somebody who was less of a one trick pony and like a world class athlete when she fought Holly home. And then that kind of that was like a game changer. And Holly home is like 40 years old right now. Like she really like she's been in it. And I think that that really
00:29:49
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showed the world like, hey, there's lots of other tough cookies out here. And like, what Rhonda was doing was awesome. It was a very like specific thing. Like I said, like, I found her like a one trick pony because you'd look for like some kind of foot sweep or hip toss and then straight to an arm bar, which is very Judo-esque, right? But, you know, her striking was always like lacking and she was going to fight a striker who was literally world class.
00:30:20
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So are you saying that you could take Ronda Rousey? Oh, yeah. You want to put me in a grappling match with Ronda Rousey and I bet you $100 I will be sure. Tony, we should become co-promoters. I know. Well, let's book this. Let's get this to happen. I think we just need a haul and then some fans and we'll be there. Yeah. Sounds good to me. Well, listen, Janine, this has been fantastic. We really wish you every success in promoting
00:30:47
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your sport and of course in your competitions and your academy. If people want to get a hold of you through social media, what are your social media handles? Mine is Janina underscore Beener. And then our academy is just Oshawa BJJ. Wonderful. And please, it's amazing that you actually worked for your dad and you got out of that and now look at you now. So that's wonderful.
00:31:15
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Janine, Janine, I meant to ask Janine, will we ever see you in a UFC ring? I don't know. The night is young, as they say. Yeah. The night is young. I'm not like, I don't find striking exciting, but I do not mind getting hit in the face while I'm trying to strangle
Conclusion and Future Aspirations for Janine
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somebody. So I think my first step will be to try combat jiu-jitsu.
00:31:38
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I don't want to be in a ring with Janine. I just want to make that clear for the record. He doesn't mind strangling people. This has been great. Janine, thanks for joining our program. It's been wonderful to have you. Thank you guys so much.
00:31:53
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Excellent discussion with Janine there. Lots of new stuff that you learned. I was going to ask you on the program, like who's your favorite female MMA fighter? I don't know. You would have been struggling. I would have been struggling. Who's my favorite male MMA fighter? I don't know, man.
00:32:11
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Come on, George St. Pierre. Tell me you know George St. Pierre. He's Canadian, right? Yes. There we go. Let's just leave it at that. Let's yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, that's I think that's cool. I do follow more so the UFC style. Yeah. So I mean, I wouldn't be up to speed on just straight jiu-jitsu, whatever. But
00:32:30
Speaker
Definitely very cool. And she's very passionate about it. She should challenge Trudeau to a little demo match like he did with Brazil when they boxed. That's right. Great idea. She can strangle him. Tap or snap, right?
00:32:48
Speaker
I love it. That'd be cool. Oh my goodness. You could probably get some press like, you know, world champion Fujitsu athlete challenges Trudeau to a match. That's right. To raise awareness. And we'll promote it and we'll charge at the gate. 100%. Yeah. It's our idea, man. Yeah, I know. So that was cool. We wish you all the best and that's, uh,
00:33:12
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No, it's exciting. So I do hope I, I think, I think it'd be cool to, if she did UFC one at some point. Yeah, exactly. No, I wait. Well, hey, listen, we might have her back on the show and she's like the top star in the world. Who knows? Yeah. Well, she said never say never, right? She didn't say no to not going to the UFC. Although it does sound like she's not going to go to the WWE anytime. No, no, I got that message, but it's loud and clear as well.
00:33:37
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All right. Well, thanks again to Janine for being on the show. I also got to thank John Mutton and the team at Municipal Solutions for their continued support. You can find them online at municipalsolutions.ca. Lunipolitics. You can head over to lunipolitics.com and use the code podcast to get 50% off an annual subscription there and all the news you'll ever need. And Tony, I know that you can thank our other sponsors and also as a teaser.
00:34:06
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00:34:28
Speaker
And now I'm going to go watch episode two, season three of the boys. Okay. Good for you. That's great, man. I know. I just, it's just too dark for me. I don't know what to say, man. I think you got to keep watching it and then you get more like, I don't think it's any darker than, um, well, it is a little darker than the Avengers. I'm trying to think of stuff that like is like Deadpool. You watch Deadpool. Yeah, but that's funny.
00:34:54
Speaker
Yeah, but this it get this is anyway. Yeah, kind of put it on the same level as Deadpool. Now I got maybe I got to give it another chance. Maybe. I mean, do you remember? I mean, I don't want to be play major spoiler here, but you remember the first episode when he's standing there holding his girlfriend's.
00:35:10
Speaker
hands. Yes, I do. Like I was like, what the flip? Now I look back at that and I go like, okay, yeah, like I mean, like it's obviously that would never happen cartoonish. Yes. Yeah. So it's like, but that was a, that was a shocking beginning to that show. Well, they wanted to demarcate themselves from the MCU probably. But you kind of remind me of Homelander. I do. I'm just kidding.
00:35:36
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A train. You're A train. Good. All right. We will do this again in seven days. Yes, we will.