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Thank GOD I'm Lance
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I'm so sad and angry about the choices other people make. I can't take it anymore.
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Introduction and Personal Happiness
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Speaker
Oh, yeah. So you're a mess still. No, I feel do I feel good. But you're um you're a mess. Yeah, for life, though, but not like in a particular state of sadness or anything. Pretty happy. You know, we're recording. ha See, I baited you into showing the world that you're fucking nothing more than a pause. Nothing good's happened. but I'm pretty happy right now. My car's in the shop. That's about it. I guess what else is going wrong with me?
00:00:29
Speaker
Nothing that I can
Frustrations with Consumerism
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Speaker
talk about on the air, bro. No, none of the secrets. None of the secrets. So here's my thing, dude. I just ah think we're doomed as human beings as I walk around the US and just get pissed off at things that I've always hated that we've talked about further. I did a walk the other day.
00:00:49
Speaker
and Every garage I looked into, no place for a car, just full of shit, just completely full. ah And you know most people walk by that and don't think twice because it's everywhere. And and I just think that we're doomed. This whole um rage bait,
00:01:09
Speaker
clickbait world of influencing ah where you know people make money by just being pathetically controversial. ah This addiction to cars, all these things that I hate, they are proliferating more and more and more and more. And so what it feels like is we we truly are doomed as humanity because somehow there's a sophistication ah with advertisers, with companies, got it's gotten to a point where there's no way to resist it. There's no way to escape it. And the smartest of us or the most disciplined of us are still caught up in it.
00:01:44
Speaker
And we are eating horrid food, and we are consuming way more than we need. And it's ah it just seems like a ah cycle of doom. And I want to talk about it, Matt, because I i feel like when I get to these places, like I'm the piece of shit because I'm criticizing other people. And it's like, well well, Lance, just let them go about their lives. like Everybody gets to make
Lifestyle Choices: Minimalism vs. Consumerism
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the choices. but like we We are clearly moving into ah just an increasing level of insanity for all of our so all of us. And I don't know, man. i'm just like tired I'm just tired of looking at it. And I'm susceptible to it. When I look at my kitchen, it probably has 30 cabinets. i mean you know there's There's so many things to point to to go, you that this is an absurdity. I need your help, buddy. Oh, man. Well, I'm the wrong person to turn to.
00:02:36
Speaker
i am Pretty much a minimalist. I really don't have a lot of stuff I never have but it doesn't matter like They what for me what gets me is like as a matter of fact, I'll give you an example yesterday I had a nice three days surfing with my kids and we were we were going to like some local local restaurants are pretty cheap They're called solos here and get like this amazing meal for like six bucks, right? Mm-hmm best food, but on the way out I that that what exactly what you're talking about has pushed its way into every country in the world a little bit. so So like in this beautiful tropical paradise, very remote place, there is now a Starbucks, a Burger King, and like the everything, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Pizza Hut, Subway. And I'm not making those choices. Obviously my kids, they're they're in it. They're like on the way out of town where it's like, can we go to Starbucks?
00:03:30
Speaker
And I was like, well, how do you resist it? Well, it's programmed to tap right into our our our weaknesses, our our fundamental needs of salt and sugar and sex and anger and emotion. Everything you look at is perfectly programmed to fuck us. And it's like, people look around and and and life seems completely normal. And slowly but surely, if you just step away from it, you're like, why is your garage full of shit, bro? Why is your fucking garage full of shit?
00:04:00
Speaker
um I get so mad. I get so fucking mad. Why are you going to eat? I'm my own kid. Why are you eating fast fucking food every day? Yeah. Well, it's one of the answers because it's good. Exactly. That they pro it is.
00:04:17
Speaker
it's They've done a good job if if you're if the goal is to make it so that people crave it or whatever. For sure. And it's not like there's some sinister corporation called Doom Inc that has figured this out and and wants to eradic eradicate humanity. They're just profiting off of what ah appears to be now our weaknesses exclusively. So going into the internet space, which we talked about before,
00:04:42
Speaker
People make thousands and thousands of dollars of just going into chat rooms and being unnecessarily controversial and bombastic and rageful against a side. And they just stir this stuff up. And it appears that we all fall for it over and over
Doomsday Predictions and Holiday Consumer Pressure
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again. And that's why, you know, taking all these factors. I think we're doomed, bro. We're doomed.
00:05:23
Speaker
A headline popped up on my feed yesterday. It was like MIT student or study quest. I didn't click on it, but ah Shows that were but it's something like end of humanity by 2040 was the headline or like end of civilization that I don't know I don't know if that's it's that Grawi that I don't know what the word is, but that ah bad yeah grave great what shit i another words that's why but's great yeah yeah The grave is the word? It'll work. Yeah. But I think there's probably like a correction coming. I think there's something like that, which it maybe it's already started to happen. Like people are kind of taking sides.
00:06:03
Speaker
But yeah well, just just to get all the the issues out and then we can kind of reverse engineer and tackle them one by one and tell the world why I'm pissed. But I sent you that picture of the Katy Highway in Houston and that that fucking thing is 26 lanes. That's so funny. Which, by the way, what an engineering feat.
00:06:26
Speaker
Like, did you look at it? Like, there's there's all these off-ramps and under-ramps and over, like. Insane, yeah. I mean, you could go, oh, well, that's the progress of of humanity. What an engineering feat, yeah. I'm just more of like, what the fuck? That is, that is how much space is that taking up? And then we complain about ah pollution, we complain about sedentary lifestyles, and yet we we we find ourselves trapped in it over and over again.
00:06:53
Speaker
And so I'm just getting to the point where like i just I don't know what to do, where to put this energy. I wanna rail on people, individuals, not the systems anymore. I just wanna look at the people and and ask, how did you get so dumb? First off, why am I so smart and so above this? That's one thing. But then why are the rest of you so utterly dumb? Wow. Wow, you were you're at probably in an even darker place than last week.
00:07:24
Speaker
I like it, dude. You're like me, dude. i don't know i don't know I don't think about this, but I feel like as I move towards my birthday and Christmas every year, like it's more of a negative vibe than a positive one for me. I wonder if that's it, dude, because you're getting inundated with just that consumerism and and do this and buy this at Christmas time, and I wonder if that's got you down a little bit.
00:07:45
Speaker
Cause you see no one needs more shit, right? Like no one, but it's like, get more shit, get more shit, get more shit. That message is being pounded into you from now. It's like from August through, like it never stops. So, but I'm, I don't know. i I go through stages. Like right now I'm not that worried about it. Like I said, I'm trying to, trying to control my controllables as a former CEO of mine said six times a day. You're not worried about your own mood at this point. Well, I've settled into like a,
00:08:14
Speaker
a lifestyle that I don't that that that I'm not consuming that much, you know, and I i feel like a nice balance. Like, so if I my kids want to go to Starbucks every once in a while, I'm not like, we're all going to die. Like, I'm not letting them bring me down. I'll be like, hey, why don't we go to like a local place? But i but ah I'll go to Starbucks, which here it's a fucking large coffee is about 750, eight bucks or something like that. In a country that produces coffee and all the coffee here is amazing.
00:08:41
Speaker
but Starbucks actually does well. what What's crazy, dude? Like it's one thing you see at work in the US, but this these formulas work everywhere, like immediately. Like you can go anywhere in the world and you're gonna be like, oh, wow, that McDonald's is packed. How's that possible? And pay her in for some shit, you know? And like, it is what it is. Like, ah so what's your alternative though? Okay, this is this might, we don't have enough time for this, but okay, so we're in this consumerism, capitalistic,
00:09:11
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economic system and because that does a lot of job creation and all that stuff like what's your what's the alternative you go back to the stone age no I mean I will say that I do get a lot of backlash for these opinions because it's an outlier of family and friends oh Lance Lance let's take the clutter the minimalism thing first oh Lance you know he's so judgey he's so judgey because he doesn't want a bunch of clutter in his own house. So I get that feedback. And my answer to that is I don't think I'm the weird one. I think things have gotten sad and out of control. And if I look around your house, it's pretty pretty pathetic how many fucking knickknacks you need and how much shit you need to have a happy home. And
Automobiles and Urban Planning Impact
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and so it's judgy, sure.
00:10:04
Speaker
But I think ah somebody has to be fighting for that side of it, I think. I also see people stressed about kind of like, what are we going to do with all this stuff? like It's like a constant source of stress for people, too, right? It's like moving stuff around. Should we throw it away? Like, should we not? Like, that's that's a that's a thing.
00:10:21
Speaker
and It is a huge thing. I have a friend that has a business. It's like something called like downsizing ink where she helps boomers downsize all of their stuff and move into smaller houses. Like she just kind of helps them get rid of stuff. Is that like make a list of things that are really important to you and then start eliminating something like that?
00:10:40
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or all the way up to like, they've just you know been this sort of a semi hoarder and they come and clean house ah more abruptly. But to have an industry like that, it seems seems quite quite crazy. yeah But it the the point for me specifically is how angry I'm getting now at the sight of it. you know It could be anything related to what I view as excess.
00:11:04
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And it's that the giant, like four kids pouring out of the giant fucking suburban with ah the big Pepsi ah cups from the the fast food that they just ate. And sometimes you'll see some of these Suburbans open the door and trash falls out.
00:11:20
Speaker
And when I see stuff like that, i I really fucking lose it. And when I see garages completely packed full of stuff. And sure, there could be reasons. Oh, well, Lance, you know, some of these people might be holding stuff for their ah kid because they're moving. No, they're not. But OK.
00:11:39
Speaker
It's beginning to look like a real sad society and I don't know how to check out of it. And I don't think you could go, well, answer your mentally ill and you need to maybe distract yourself, get a job. No, I feel pretty good. I just see these disgusting things. Now I'm calling them disgusting. Yeah. They're disgusting fucking things of people ah living these lives of just Merry Christmas, everybody. are Are people are people around you on board with this? Like, where are you on your own journey, so to speak? Like, have you are you getting rid of shit or you never had shit to get rid of? I always get rid of stuff. How many jackets do you have? I'll give you an example. People think they need like 100 jackets. You need one jacket, right? That's it.
00:12:18
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I have one. Yeah. I've seen, I think when you're wearing, what you're wearing, I've seen a few, a few episodes. Oh, I wear this. This is more of just like my house lounge, medium temperature. Yeah. I'm like, I was talking to my daughter about that. It was like, she was like, you always wear the same jacket. I was like, are you complimenting me? Cause I take that as a, as a compliment. I was like, I have clothes. Then I had this one jacket, which works in a variety of Costa Rican temperatures. And why would I get, why, what else do I need?
00:12:46
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Like i I kind of, I remember seeing that in Europe. Like if you see the same people in Europe, like hotel workers or people on the street, if you settle in, like I, like people are, why a lot of times are wearing the same stuff. They might have like ah an amazing tie, but they have one and they wear the same shit and it's okay. They're not like, I gotta to have 30 outfits. Cause someone might tell me that I wore that jacket last week or whatever, you know, like people worry about that stuff.
00:13:13
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And we're about it constantly. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know why but the other problem with it is like with not the problem but like the the thing is you can any any worry you have like that are you being told that you should be worried about you can solve that problem in the US so quickly like you can get 30 outfits and if you can't afford them at one place you can go here you can go to an outlet store right like and the with the what is it fast fashion like you can go out and start buying stuff for five bucks a shirt eventually. Eventually it'll get to a price point that you can buy it and like you can solve the problem. And it's like, gotta to get to the next thing, right? Next car, next thing, next. Have you ever met a car guy though? I always go back and forth on cars. I never cared about cars and the idea like this person's better than me because they have a car that was made in Germany is ah is a bit of a turn off. But I'd have some friends that are just like, they love cars. I have an uncle who worked his whole life in the car industry.
00:14:05
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He has a true passion for cars, like, loves it. Yeah, I don't relate at all, I think. I don't relate, but
Symbols of Success and Sustainability
00:14:11
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like, I don't credit, it's like, he's not, like you said, he's not like evil empire guy, he's an engineer, he was ah an engineer that got into marketing, just loves, has loved cars his whole life. Even from like working on Mac trucks when I was a kid, we used to go to the Mac, like a facility and do test runs in these giant semis, it was great. But like, I'm just saying, there's another side, it was like, some people like shit.
00:14:34
Speaker
No, of course, of course, of course. I'm i'm pointing out accesses, but look at the history of the car. And it truly fucked up all of our cities. If if your city was built after the 1940s, it is a or wreck of a highway system that's taken up so much land. But even in Henry Ford's era, right he he started to you know produce the Model T and cities themselves were raging. There was a whole contingent. people don't This is history people don't think of. Raged against the car because now these cars were whipping through the city and people were used to walking and enjoying the city streets.
00:15:14
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and having sort of a a reprieve from noise and chaos of the Industrial Revolution and and now the car was entering in and the car went out. It clearly went out. Have you heard, ah to your point, like I've heard that some of the petroleum like tycoons, they they went and they'd go in and buy up all the trolley systems?
00:15:32
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in cities to shut them down, to right to encourage, like they which is, you know, it somebody would be like, what a great business move, right? There's only one city in our country, one city in the US that is ah largely walked or yeah are in is using public transit, and that's New York City. Right.
00:15:51
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The rest is just a highway mess. A nightmare. Denver is a nightmare. But that being a larger issue of we've been sold things or we have allowed ourselves to be sold things that work against our own personal health. like the The car specifically is a lifestyle killer in my opinion.
00:16:13
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You think if you were, but some of this also came from like, all right, you're an immigrant, you're in, you're in a tiny apartment in the Bronx with ah like people on top of each other. And then the idea like, oh, this car will move us out to the suburbs, it will space a little, little more relaxed life. If we were in that situation in the teens, 20s, 30s, 40s, would you be like, oh, maybe I respect this idea of taking the highway out to the suburb because I because I don't like to live on top of other people in a giant apartment complex either. Like some of it is that. Or you think they were sold the idea that it's better. And now you see urban of of return to the city and some some cities too, right?
00:16:52
Speaker
Well, yeah, I think that that trend happened for a variety of reasons. But I think in large part, it was people wanted to store their cars and wanted a yard and garage and space and a bigger garden or whatever. And that trend, I think, is a sad one for but ah for the US overall.
00:17:11
Speaker
Yeah, I just just look at the size of the houses, look at the size of our yards. I just there's nothing unique in this message here, but it is a symbol of success to have a giant house and more than three cars and very, very nice stuff. And that's the symbol of success. And I always wonder, is there a way to transform the economy where there are other things for us to put our money towards that have some sort of net benefit and not all of these externalities. Is there something interesting enough or taps our frontal lobes like consuming sugar and salt and gathering status symbols? Are there other ways to structure this so that we can be a more sustainable, healthy,
00:17:57
Speaker
group of people. But when I walk across, when I walk down the street, and I see that you got six cars outside of your house, and I see that your garage is cluttered full of bullshit, there's no way that I can, I have a hard time respecting you. That's, that's, that's a strong, very negative statement. But yeah, but was there a single event that that put you I mean, we've talked about this now for almost two years, like, or a year and a half. Is there a single event though, where you're just like, Oh, this is ridiculous. Or is it just a culmination of just this pounding message of like,
00:18:28
Speaker
Get more, get more, get more. I think as we had kids and you saw how much stuff came in from all corners of the earth that even you didn't purchase, but they're gifts from family members, just endless gifts, stuff from the school system that came home, the constant, every classroom was feeding, you know dropping candy in a little baggie for the kids. And as that stuff started i started, I was just like, oh, what? You can't protect them from it. My my son came back from trip to Dallas and had,
00:19:00
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You know, I gave him like 75 bucks and he just had a huge pack of Oreos and giant bags of chips. And he's just a boy. He's a teenager. He should be able to eat what he wants, but this is, it's always in our face. It's an endless like snack, sugar, salt, sugar, salt. Give me a nice car. Give me a nice car. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I want to, I want to fuck that bitch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, we just feel, I feel like we seem duped and we're doomed. And of course,
00:19:29
Speaker
Am I playing the game, investing in all these companies that, again, they're not sinister, but they are profiting extremely well off of what seems to be a vulnerable human brain, borderline pathetic human brain and its inability to be disciplined. You take any comfort though that you came to this, you grew up in the same thing and maybe at some point in your life you were like, I want to be successful with all that shit and you got here. Like I take some comfort in that.
00:19:58
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like um oblivious to all this stuff now. I had maybe it's part of where I live in my situation. But like, I don't get too worked up about my kids being into it because I'm i'm like, well, I got here. You know, I just ate a big pile of fucking kale and spinach and some some black rice. Like I got here. I could have went either way. I'm not saying I'm living the way everyone should. But like, you know, yeah it's not set in stone what you believe in 20 in 10 years, I guess is the good thing.
00:20:28
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And you might get to your kid, we're worried about our kids are like, hearing that message. And that's their they're putting the value in life is like that. That's their ah spectrum for success is how much shit they've acquired, right? And you're but they could make their own decisions eventually to not be part of it. Or maybe they'll be part of it and be happy.
00:20:49
Speaker
They might and I hope they're not. I do feel like the young people are recognizing more and more that that stuff, ah fancy things, status symbols are not the answer. Where I think we can get to is their life online has a similar sort of excess that again is fed into our dumb doomed frontal lobes and we just can't resist it.
00:21:13
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But ah yeah i hope i hope that we we rely less on consumer goods that have don't have very a useful life and can't can't be recycled. Your piece of shit on this one is that you just it's you let your letting it bother you i think. Oh it's intense anger.
00:21:32
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It's intense anger. I mean, it's intense anger and judgment. I just see if your house is too big. i can't It's sort of like you voting for Trump and having 14 Trump signs up. um som I'm kind of confused. If you're your shit pouring out of your garage, if there's too many cars, i um so um I'm kind of confused because it's not as if it's not like, oh, well,
00:21:56
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You're a paternalistic and you just don't want people to make the choices they want. I don't even think that a lot of this lifestyle that we're leading is ah has been a conscious choice.
Cultural Comparisons: Minimalism vs. Consumerism
00:22:04
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Do you? No. Well, it's weird though. If every once in a while you'll see somebody get out of it and they'll be like, wow, this is crazy. It's so obvious once you're out of it. You go to another country. ah Yeah. You got to get out of it. You go to Copenhagen or something where they walk.
00:22:24
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but you're not Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of a lot of European cities now, but are yeah there's laws against cars like in the downtown area, like I think Berlin or some some german German cities are doing that, but um but you got to get out of it if you want to. But I know plenty of people up there that would be like, fuck that shit, you know, like like everything's fine. like i know Don't buy another car, but I can see that sign of it. Yeah.
00:22:52
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Yeah, the wheels of capitalism are moving. Look at this is this how industry works. And we have a 70% of our society is built on consumerism. I can't say that I have a better economic system. I do feel ah feel like our purchases could go more towards healthy lives for all and less externalities. So when you when you do choose to buy a giant truck that consumes more fuel, ah you are emitting more pollution into the atmosphere by and large. Even when you choose to buy your expensive electric car, you are mining cobalt in the Democratic Republic of Congo with- By slaves? Yeah, by slaves.
00:23:31
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wow and there So, there are issues with some of this stuff and yet, do I know how to get out of it? I don't know how to invest and have my own personal sense of security without participating in this game. But it doesn't feel like it's working for many, many people. You've said it before in the in sense of healthcare.
00:23:54
Speaker
You said mean look at look at the how the industry works. We've talked about it. It does seem sad that you're you're marrying up a lack of health with the procedures to address that lack of health as opposed to like the habits that lead to good health and you never need those procedures. Yeah, but you probably right now I agree. But do you like this society? I know. But do you like it personally? Do you look and look and go okay, these are good models of ah of balanced life.
00:24:26
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appreciate it When I go up there, like it's it's actually now I've been down here so long, it's kind of overwhelming. Like you're just like another shopping center. It's crazy, you know? Like there's just so much, there's just so much so much consumer choices. It's like overwhelming. I don't know about like, I don't know. I've always i've always like since I've been an adult, I've always been kind of like and like like the city urban. I would rather be in the middle of nowhere or like down.
00:24:56
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Downtown being like in the middle of suburbs. I never liked I mean, that's where I grew up and it was fine. But like so that sprawling That like Denver is kind of ah a new city So you get that sprawling suburb after like cookie cutter suburb after suburb we have like a same shopping center same shopping center same 5,000 track home site and To be honest with you like like where my parents live you go out there. It's nice like nice side box There's a little pass the shopping centers 10 seconds away and like I understand it. You know, it's like a convenient life. And you can get a car with, what what I don't know, 1% interest, so you can get your beast of a car. It doesn't cost you that much. or at least it like
00:25:38
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It's the life is like, I think people make the argument that it's an easy lifestyle. Like sitting in your tiny apartment in the city and walking everywhere. Like some people would say, well, that sucks. It's not for me. I'd rather be my fucking Escalade rolling around to eat with the easy life, you know? I just, I don't really, I'm not quite where you are where it's this super anti-judgy thing. it's I just like, that's really not what I'm after. But like, yeah it's convenient, you know? It's like pretty convenient.
00:26:07
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Yeah. So you think that that whole, that movement, the desire for convenience really built society as it, as the way it, it or it built society as it stands. Yeah. And I think if you, yeah, like if, I don't even know if you know how crazy it is. Like if you went and I don't know what you'd have to do, but like when I drive down a Rapo road, for example, and I'm just like overwhelmed, like, you know, there's probably 10 car dealerships and there might be 50,000 cars out on the lot.
00:26:38
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And you're like, what, where are they going? Like what, how, who's, who's updating every year or like how many people are buying these cars? So it's just like, it's, it's insane. And yeah when you, when you have, when you don't see it for a while, but I mean, obviously we have car dealerships here, yeah but not as many and there'll be a car dealership have like three cars or something like that in front of it. And, and so it's actually crazier than you think, if if you could like remove yourself from it, but I know, dude,
00:27:07
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I know people that move the US that from ah my ah friend ah moved there from Africa, or people from here that go up there and they're like, the idea of like the the the the size of meat that you can get like an arrest, like a steak, ah like people are like,
00:27:25
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This is amazing, but not, I don't, I just don't think people, these people from other places would do that five times a week. It's like a, on a trip or something. They're like, holy shit, this is the biggest piece of meat I've ever seen in my life. This would be like four meals back home. And there's something like, I don't know what you call it, but they, they, it's not, I would say they like it, but not necessarily.
00:27:51
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Your audio kind of tripped out a little bit. Check your mic, something got pulled out. It just went real quiet. Media recorder's not working as expected. Now you're good. Now you're good, bro. Well, I don't know how much of that we got, but I don't know if that was... Well. Yeah, it's actually like, if you can get out of it and then you come back in with like a lens of another experience, there's a lot of stuff where you're like,
00:28:24
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I like you go to a restaurant in the US and a lot of foreigners like what am I supposed to do with all this food? Where the the American thing, the US American, I should say, might be like, I like that place portion sizes are pretty good. of Like, but foreigners are like, what the fuck, but but I know that came out of like,
00:28:45
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European immigrants like with nothing and being like this is amazing We can actually eat a protein every meal and get as much as we want for cheap, you know or stuff like that like And then it just got out of control. Yeah,
Environmental and Personal Well-being
00:28:58
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there was a restaurant There's a couple things I want to say there was a restaurant called claim jumper I don't know if you remember it or ever went to it, but it was known for having extreme portion sizes. I mean unbelievable, so a basket of fries was more of like a a giant mixing bowl full of fries, that level of size, and just the kind of stuff you wouldn't even believe. And our US society seems to revel in excesses at all level. And you'll see single couples, right? I mean, I'll ride on the bike path through some of the rich neighborhoods, and you look at the back of the house, and there's probably 40,
00:29:37
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40 windows just to to give you a sense of how giant this house is. You know, maybe that's a little bit of an exaggeration, but 30 windows on the backside of the house. And that gives you a sense. It's just like, no kids, no kids. Um, but people, people should be able to, you know, have what they want. Right, Matt? That's what I'm saying. Like when, when does this stop or where does it, and you know, people argue, yeah, we're already reaching a point where We're having to acknowledge climate change, we're having to acknowledge pollution and other things. so
00:30:08
Speaker
but I think it stops at 84 ounces. 84 ounces of hop sirloin is about the limit of consumption you want. Yeah. And and you think people like it though. Like when you look at obesity in our country of 60% and i'm ah this is a tired argument for anybody who knows me, as I say it all the time. Are these people happy? Are these people satisfied? Is is the excess, is the opportunity, has it treated them well?
00:30:37
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Maybe they maybe yeah, they're happy. And I'm the one just sitting here fucking bitching on a walk. And yeah, it comes back to what you said last week, dude, about you you wish you weren't a thinker. They're probably some people are just like, let's fucking crush some food, watch the Broncos and not worry about it. Right? Like, yeah. Yeah. So I mean, I think that the issue as just being a POS is we have hangups and and this one for me,
00:31:05
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I really don't know what to do with it. Pretty passionate about this. It's been years. It's been years and years and years of every time I see an unnecessary vehicle for the cityscape. I was like, ah, there here you fucking go. There you fucking go with your giant whatever that you don't need in the city. And I just can't sit with people making these choices because I don't think it's conscious. I just think They've done such an amazing job of getting people to want more and more and more. What what kind of healthy economy really is based on 70% of its population consuming, consuming, consuming, consuming? That doesn't seem good, does it? It seemed good. I don't know. what To me, that's all debatable. Well, it's not debatable, but i it obviously works as far as generating like
00:31:59
Speaker
generating a fluid economy, the easy access to money, the consumerism, the changing of seasons, all that stuff that like feeds into this, this never need for more shit. But um it's so incredibly boring, dude, for me, like to go to the US and then I and then it's coming here. It's already here. But like, I would love to go to be here in Costa Rica, right?
00:32:24
Speaker
and be like, there's nothing from the US here are limited. And then when I go to the US, if I was like, oh look, there's a Starbucks and I hadn't seen one in five months, it'd be kind of cool. or Or like, oh, there's a Starbucks. i heard I heard Starbucks is in Seattle and that's unique to Seattle and the scene up there. There's a Starbucks in every street corner across the country. Like the US used to have a little more like regional character.
00:32:48
Speaker
And now everything looks the same. For me, that's that's what bothers me about it. It's just kind of boring. I i kind of understand like it's convenient. It's good. I mean, the coffee at Starbucks is good. Actually, I used to hate it, but now i not the not the coffee, but like the idea like, oh, now they got to come down here. like Great. they got They can't stop. Can't stop the world domination. But then I heard my wife actually was telling me a few years ago like that they're pretty really good about supporting farmers and making the the thinkers of the coffee thinkers like sustainable and green and being being cognizant of local wages and all this stuff. So I back down. I was like, Starbucks seems like a business that at least is for the betterment of society, right? But ah it's just like, stop expanding. I would like to go to China. If I go to China, which I don't really want to go, but let's just say, we'll call it Japan. I'd like to go to Japan.
00:33:42
Speaker
And I know I'll have access to some of the Japanese culture and food. But I know what am I going to see? Fucking Subway, Pizza Hut, McDonald's, Starbucks, Walmart. I don't know if Walmart's made Japan. It's a Walmart down the street from my house. like So it's just boring. like As the world becomes one unified place with with mostly Western brands, it's incredibly cookie cutter and boring for me. That's what bothers me about it.
00:34:10
Speaker
Yeah, since I'm kind of out of it, and so I don't have to worry about that much. Well, how would you consult me then? How would you, given the level of anger? I can't tell you to come here, dude, because it's going to piss you up. It almost will piss you up more to see it here. Dude, I've been having this, the the sorry, this ain't going to give you any, this ain't, this isn't going to give you any, ah I just want to say like the other thing, my kids, they they put Krispy Kreme in here, right? So they made it down here.
00:34:36
Speaker
And then across the street, start fire up the battle. Guess who came in across the street? Dunkin Donut. And my kids are like adamant that we we should get into the fight, decide which one's better. Like we got to go to Dunkin Donut. And I'm just like, ah god and it'll be like a $50 donut too. But it's for the kids. They love it. Make them happy, Matt. Make them happy. Make those fat little pieces of shit happy. It's just.
00:35:02
Speaker
I know that people there's, you know, you've been in a business and there's people going like, well, you have this, this amount of growth potential in the US and some of the markets are tapped out. So what do we have to do? We got to, we go overseas and it's going to work. And like, I think you just, I mean, I hate to say, but you really got to not worry about it. Like this terrible advice, but like, that's all you can do. I mean, go out to your garage, give it all the shit you don't want. And then that's it.
00:35:28
Speaker
Yeah, I know. I got one more piece of advice. Here's one. This ain't gonna solve your your life's problems. But I just was my friend just came over here a few minutes ago. He told me that him and this another friend of mine, Luigi, you have to come that name out there. No, but a couple. I'm just kidding. No one will know who it is. That's not a unique name. and so But it's a friend of ours, but they're they plan like a Like a five day backpack, like 20 or 30 kilometers a day in the jungle, like in the southern part of Costa Rica, completely unplugged. Maybe you just need like something like that. More of that. Yeah. Well, like maybe you need that three times a year, like an unplug event. Cause even when you go hiking, are you ah like, you can't unplug it.
00:36:15
Speaker
Uh, different applied for, for 10 hours or something. Well, most of the time, yeah. The, uh, the service service is gone. Not, not that. Not, that's not what I'm worried about, but like, yeah, but you, you're, you're in dire need of something like that right now. First of all, besides the society's infinite doom, like I read a book, I think you might've recommended the book, but the number was like three days. Like if you can check out for three days, that's when things start to like click.
00:36:42
Speaker
And when you actually kind of detach and relax, that's probably the first thing for you. Yeah. No, I'm just disgusted by it though. It's like, well, I've chosen to live in this society and participate in these activities. Like, you know, you look around and sometimes the only thing left to do.
00:37:02
Speaker
Is go to the store or to the you know, go shopping so many options. Yeah, right It's so much fun. You can have right but then Look at skiing has been hijacked as a ah hobby that was once fairly reasonable to access and it's now I think if you were to take a family and you were from out of state and just drop. Grand. Yeah, easy. Just one day. No food, grand. No. Yeah. No skis, grand. Yeah. so Just the play ball, a thousand bucks. But the act of skiing itself, it doesn't take a whole lot.
00:37:41
Speaker
It's really that it's been built up to have convenience for people who probably don't have the hustle and physical stamina to actually do that sport. Um, it's, it's just really made very, very easy. And I just see that I don't see any end of that and it depresses me. It does get me mad. And we just continue to fall down the trap of yep. We're okay. You know, obesity is fine. We got tools to fix obesity. We got new drugs. We got, we got a new exercise routines. We got all kinds of stuff.
00:38:12
Speaker
It's maddening. It's maddening to just watch. It's maddening to participate in. And I have probably way too much time in my hands to sit and fucking worry about stupid shit like this. But I'm angry. Like the hype thing, maybe March 14th, 18th, by the way, if you want to get it on that. I think there's space. You should come down here and fucking hike through the jungle. We could record, do a live record with some toucans in the background. Yeah.
00:38:40
Speaker
I was going to say, let's see if we we can spice this up a little bit. Have you seen Talladega Nights? Yes. and and And one of the scenes, Ricky Bobby's dad sticks him in the car with a cougar to get him to relax, to like control that fear and shit. what if i What if I put your ass down in like Somalia, some fucked up place?
00:38:59
Speaker
and then, or Southern Panama, but like the the drug trafficking jungle between Panama and Colombia. And then maybe a little old South Denver with all its big box chains
Influencer Culture and Societal Health
00:39:10
Speaker
and shit doesn't look so bad, huh? Maybe like a month of of like living in hell Havana or something. yeah And then you go, oh, okay. The system in the US isn't that bad. Well, how about I just just request that people be a little more reasonable? I think somebody would tell you, like it maybe it's not your craving.
00:39:29
Speaker
I think people say you can't you can't. You can't. You can't moderate it. For this economy to work, it has it has yeah it has to it has to be you have to be focused on infinite growth. And if you're not, it doesn't work. So that's sad. And and for it to have infinite growth, you have to have a correction every once in a while. It's like you have to have a blip. so you do you Are you worried ah just to shift to the,
00:39:58
Speaker
to the online AI world. I'm excited about its potential, how it can help me. Well, it doesn't feel like it's tapping into, again, our weaknesses and the social media world, obviously, right? It's now well studied in terms of the harms of that, but just the influencer market and the space that we're in, right? We could we could probably make this a hit.
00:40:22
Speaker
by parroting really dark listener piece of shit statements and or or lying about them and then like talking through like some dude's crazy fucking fetish or whatever or very high highly controversial stuff And then like that this is like the what we're what we're feeding on right now, all day long. It's another thing that just aggravates me. And we like we've talked about the sites, whatever, the financial sites. It's all absurdity. It's all highly controversial. It's all just design. Money is made with more clicks, blah, blah, fucking blah, blah, blah. But boy, are we so susceptible to it. And it's I don't see any end in it. And then you add on AI, and now you've got
00:41:04
Speaker
kids who are interacting with chatbots that say it's okay to kill your parents or you're interacting with chatbots that fall like they think they're falling in love with this artificial intelligence and kids have killed themselves and so forth and you're getting this sad futuristic ready player one movie society and uh wow uh This is what happens in retirement. This is what happens to the old guy that leaves his work. He sees the problems of society as he checks out of it. And he loses his fucking mind and he becomes the absolute version of piece of shit. I'm gonna be like the but cool, cool fuck up friend in a movie. Lance, you worry too much. You worry too much. it's It's funny with what you're talking about. Come on, relax, buddy. buts What's the big deal?
00:41:57
Speaker
right before the missiles drop. Yeah, it's a robots telling us to kill our parents. Come on. Couple parents get capped. What are you worried about? Yeah, they probably had it coming anyways. I'm right. But you know, I want some relief, bro. You're not in the jungle, dude. March 14. I don't, there's no relief, dude. Like you're gonna walk outside and you're gonna be pounded by it.
00:42:22
Speaker
And it's going to get worse for the next like two or three weeks. And then after Christmas, you got the sales, you got sales, sales, sales coming your way. And, uh, you're going to have to detach. You're going to have to detach, dude. Apathy is the key to success in this, in this, uh, this game, I think. Yeah. So you froze again, bro.
00:42:47
Speaker
It's like big data is out to get us because we're speaking the truth. Big data, big internet, big cable trying to fuck us. It's like you got to rejoin.
00:43:06
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, there you are. Big data fucking us because we're talking truth, Matt. That's right. You think we got you think we got a You think we got capped? Do you think this is probably a sad conversation to listen to? I don't think anybody wants to hear two middle-aged guys bitch about how the world isn't working.
00:43:30
Speaker
and offer no solutions. I think it's one. Just one guy? Okay. No one wants to hear it. And I think that's the saddest part of this whole thing. It's not that people are aggressively overeating or storing way too much stuff in their house or sucking fumes from the car in front of them their whole lives. It's not at any of that. It's just that I'm angry about it is what's most pathetic about this conversation. did This conversation last week, which I which i and enjoyed listening to, might not be by itself standalone, maybe not the most like ah inspirational conversation, but if we can get somewhere with this,
Endless Growth and Societal Collapse Debate
00:44:10
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or you can reconcile in over a course of a series of episodes or time, maybe maybe that would be good. um Yeah.
00:44:21
Speaker
Yeah, the sad truth, though, is like the only the only way in the reconcile is like to give up. It's like, I don't see. I mean, um you're not going to from this microphone, you're sitting in front of probably not going to launch the ah rebel the rebel fight. And so the the only thing that's going to happen is that you give up and don't worry about it and just control your your lifestyle. Or there's a huge worldwide disaster that fixes it for us. And I don't know if that's really what we want. Like, have you seen the big short like the the We have betting against like the the housing market. And I think Brad Pitt's characters, like you realize what you're betting against, you know, you're, you're basically saying the whole housing market's going to crash. And a lot of people are going to suffer because of it. Well, that's the only way to get out of this cycle. This never ending growth cycle is by a huge crash. And that wouldn't be that exciting either. Cause I don't know if you want to sit there and be like, ha ha motherfuckers. Yeah. boy That character was a little psycho in there. He was a little like checked out of society. You think it was a real guy?
00:45:19
Speaker
it It may have been, it may have been off of a, I think it might have been actually. I think it was, but but was he that like, I mean, he's actually, that character is you right now. Kind of a guy who had some success in this industry that that he resents.
00:45:35
Speaker
Well, what do you think about the, just all related, like the healthcare care CEO gets offed and half of society is like cheering for this murderer. That's what I'm saying. I don't think that's good either, right? No, it's, but, but it's, uh, doesn't even a bad guy. I don't like what's the background. I'm sure it's all coming out, right? he Oh, the killer. He was a, uh,
00:45:56
Speaker
Oh, the killer was ah like, I guess a highly elite. His parents own a country club. He went to some sort of Ivy league school or or the equivalent and just had sort of like a Unibobber type manifesto. ah Super smart and angry at corporations.
00:46:15
Speaker
But if if I know the way the US s works, so this is going to set off a string of um assassinations, right? Like copycat killings is is just like everything else has got to be growth, right? Can't just have one. we got We have a school shooting. Got to have 20 of them. Got to have some CEOs. I'd be watching your back or or packing some heat. because Well, I think it'll start. and Yeah, it'll start a lot of conversations about how the health care industry basically fucks a lot of people.
00:46:44
Speaker
What's your united healthcare in particular denies claims at two, two and a half times the rate of other insurance companies. It's notorious for just saying don denied. Well, I've got some cancer that you need taken care of denied. Go fuck yourself. Oh, okay. So the positive message that is like, they got what they had coming.
00:47:05
Speaker
Well, no, I'm not saying that. I mean, I think murder is a little too far. Maybe just a little. But you could argue that they're murdering tons of people by not... You could. Right. that's why i'm sorry I'm sure this this that's why there's this rejoicing of this guy. I haven't seen that.
00:47:22
Speaker
Oh, it's online. It's in social media stuff. But like, this is the the time of excess. When you look at the city, did you ever watch Hunger Games, right? When that the main city is just this farce of over the topness and insanity and people's preferences gone wild. And I feel feel like yeah we we get closer and closer to that. That's one thing that you could do, but I think you you You like being informed. and like The one way to handle it is by what I did, which is like just remain uninformed. I'm not really following any news stories or I haven't seen The Hunger Games.
00:48:01
Speaker
like i'm i'm How's that working for you, Matt? Huh? No, I'm kidding. It's a good point. Life Without Hunger Games has been miserable. The movie was great, man. The movie was great. A really good sci-fi movie. No, it's good. I'm just kidding. It's a society collapsing. It's a great movie. Well, what I wrestle with is like, I don't wrestle with it. I should, I guess. Especially here, I don't know what is going on in Costa Rica. News-wise, I just don't watch any news.
00:48:33
Speaker
And I tried to with the political cycle, tried to get back into a little bit, but kind of turned me off. But it's like, is it better to just get completely out of it and be uninformed as I am? Or is it better to to take action in your own little way? And like, I don't know, but it's it's nice to not be in some argument about whether this health care guy had it coming or not. Like, I'm sure there's people online that are really weighing in on their opinions and going back and forth and like,
00:49:01
Speaker
that sounds like a miserable life to me is actually reading about what people think about it. It's like, I don't care, you know? And that's like, I just had to stay away from that and that's kept kept my head like straight a little bit. Yeah, I don't read about it. I mean, I usually consume long-form stories that have some of these trends in there, or some of these ideas rather. Right. I mean, all that shit is interesting too, like,
00:49:27
Speaker
I just don't know anybody, bud. And I know you're checked out. That's why I want to talk to you about it. You're checked out in a way that I think, I'm not saying it's a problem. You think it's too much? It might be a defense mechanism. Just, I don't have time for that shit right now. But like, I don't know many people that are looking at society more broadly. And now I feel like when we were younger, like we didn't consume, most of us didn't consume any information, any nightly news about what's happening in the world.
00:49:55
Speaker
But now you see, perhaps because it's easier to, across the generations, real concern for health and humanity of this world. Real concern. And I mean, like, I don't know what we do with that collectively. And you have people who will rail against climate change and things. And yet that thing is coming, baby.
00:50:18
Speaker
that That shit's coming. ah There's wars all over. There's income equality that we've never seen across the world, which right is leaving a huge segment of the of the society. and and and Would you say you're anti-war?
00:50:38
Speaker
Shut the fuck up. Well, like dude, there's nobody that I know that is acknowledging, hey, this feels good. This feels like we're headed in the right direction. I just say that
Societal Direction and Personal Values
00:50:50
Speaker
because it's it's like, there's these general ideas that everyone would say I'm anti-war, I'm anti-climate change, like I'm anti end of the world, people would say that, but then but then it gets hazy because people are like, wow, support Ukraine, don't support Ukraine. There's real, there is climate change, there's not climate change. right It's like that my checking out, I don't know if it's checking out, but it's like nobody really has the right, and like a solution and everyone's kind of right. It's like, you're not getting anywhere by like getting involved in it, it seems like.
00:51:19
Speaker
Yeah, well, and it's funny, too, and you you you see CEOs get interviewed, they always frame themselves as eternal optimists. So you get they get asked about an issue like climate change. And they always I and inevitably, you know, Sally, I'm an internal optimist. And I believe in the process of innovation. And I think this is something we're going to solve. And I'll tell you what my company's doing right now. ah And I just believe in humanity and innovation and optimism, blah, blah, fucking blah.
00:51:49
Speaker
and that's what you hear and the only one optimist, the only optimist left are CEOs, C-suite people in these major corporations. Right. So fuck society. Not the people on POS. No, fact we're We're fucked. I think you'll be all right, du e but you're gonna have to... What if I'm not? Well, 2040, dude, you don't have to make it 15 years.
00:52:18
Speaker
And the walls come crashing down. No, but how far does this go? this This cynicism, this anger. I mean, it actually kind of worries me sometimes. I'm sort of like, would you settle down, bro? Would you settle down? How far do you want to check out? How many? That's the question. It's it's not, a what oh, what should I do? It's like, how far can you, how far could you check out? Like, how how off the grid could you get? Yeah. Well, is it off the grid? Is it just off the grid? I mean, I don't really know.
00:52:48
Speaker
Well, like if you fully simplify your life, how much could you could you do it? Well, ah my life feels pretty simplified. Like is it ah is the energy go towards optimizing my life for my values and beliefs or is it go towards maybe murdering people that have clutter or doing things that are insane or ah activism? Okay. If I see a garage full of shit, I'm walking in and just gonna murder the whole family.
00:53:15
Speaker
minute 2750 to 2815 might be incriminating if there's an actual event in your neighborhood or something like that. Might want to back out of that one, bro. But I think your car is too big. I'm gonna fucking put a bomb underneath it. Would you but would you get to the you might not get to that point. But would are you to the point where you want to start to talk to people? Hey, can I talk to you about all the shit in your garage? No, no, I claim ah my values and it all It's ostracizing. Like if you, if you say, yeah, I'm kind of a minimalist, not, not an off-putting way. I'm kind of a minimalist or, you know, I don't, uh, it just really triggers people. I think you gotta to get to the point where you're just, you're just the United nations of Lance or Lance's family and control that. That's what I'm trying to do. like Don't you think the e-bikes triggering for people?
00:54:08
Speaker
I don't know. like I always feel like look at Colorado is like a place where that that stuff would be fine. but But you can see how it is. And you think if you resist it for years, I resist it. I'm not trying to eat fast food. Like if you do that, any even if you have a preference in that direction, sort of like a thing you're kind of a dick. you're kind of um It's by taking the action that's like your action is judging other people for doing it for eating fast food or something. Yeah, my choices somehow are immediately judgy. And then i guess I guess here's what's happening, we can resolve this right now, is I've made these choices based on stuff that I've either experienced or read and fell in love with. And ah society doesn't really allow you to make those choices very easily from just a social perspective.
00:54:54
Speaker
And my backlash is to just get more and more pissed about people's excesses that I wouldn't choose. I think that's it. And I can solve it. Do you think some of this is just what last week and this week as you you tried to analyze as much as you possibly could what do it would mean to leave the the rat race and and you've done it and now you're like, oh, there's other things involved like that that came up, but it's not just the judgment. And like and now you feel like,
00:55:20
Speaker
Oh, there's probably some judgment. You leave the rat race, it's almost like you're not even striving to get the better car to have all this shit. And like, and everybody else is. And now you're like, you feel alienated a little bit. And you're like, why do are people doing this? ah This is the right way, right? That's a good point. Yeah, I do. I feel ah alienated by it. I feel everywhere I go, I feel like it's insanity. It's the same complaints I have about you sports, right? It's the same complaints I have about a kid playing 10 games in one weekend.
00:55:49
Speaker
It's always more and more. It's the basketball, the place where we go to play basketball, it has a whole convenience, or excuse me, it has a whole like, what do you call it? Snack center. Snack center, yes, thank you. You can get popcorn, chili dogs, and all kinds of bullshit, and endless Gatorades, and you know, necklace lollipops in between your games.
00:56:13
Speaker
and I see that everywhere and it's it's just settled down, Lance. But I see it all over and I can't ignore it somehow, I can't ignore it. I'll tell you this, I was playing baseball in New Jersey in 1987 and there was a snack bar that had a ton of great candy and it was always a battle if I could get something out of there. Some of this shit's like not new, but now it's like a 52 ounce Gatorade, 75 different flavors. and yeah But it's just, yeah. Let them be kids, Matt. Let them be kids.
00:56:42
Speaker
But now it's like, let them be kids. All right, little Stevie, here's $75, go to the snack bar, you can get three things. it's ah I think what maybe, now listen to all this, I think at some point you got to embrace it, wear it. Like you like, you' you're okay with like competition. Like the fact, every part part of your life is is against it what everybody else is doing. You should be proud of it and be happy about it. Okay. You don't think that helps? That sounds easy. Just, just seek out competition.
00:57:11
Speaker
No, but- Oh, just leave it alone. what I mean, ride your e but you-bike with pride and don't fucking care if if somebody else is judging you for it. Yeah, I don't. Like, actually be happy about it. The way to feel better about yourself is always, as the formula always works is to put other people down, either in your
Judgment, Consumerism, and Personal Contentment
00:57:30
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head or actually doing it. So someone if you think someone's in an escalator judging you for your pussy little gay e-bike, as you might call it,
00:57:40
Speaker
be happy about it and assume that they're a fucking piece of shit. Tea party, close-minded, homophobic asshole and be be like euphoric that you're not him. Like every situation, you probably could be like, thank God I'm Lance and not fucking this dick chain he wanna be. Yeah, that's it right there. That's where, thank God I'm Lance. It comes back a little bit to gratitude, but like in a, you can you can even use it internally.
00:58:08
Speaker
Thank God I'm Lance. That feels good. Thank you. Thank higher power than I believe in. You can frame it if you want, more more like. No, I like that though. Thank God I'm me. Thank God I'm not you.
00:58:22
Speaker
But I'm me. That feels good. You can do it too. You can either go, you can get, yeah, you can go hardcore with it. Thank God I'm not you or just stick to more and internal, like you you, the system you're so worried about, you're out of it. So that's all you really got to think about. But that's not enough for me. And and i I think it's funny, but that's not enough for me because actually the worry is- Well, that's a start. No, it's actually out of care for other people. The worry is like, dude, why? Why are you doing that to yourself?
00:58:50
Speaker
if If you didn't pursue that, maybe we could be just like, hanging out kicking it over a backyard fire. You know, like I got like a sweet fire pit, like a really nice one, like built into the ground with like, no, just okay, just fucking straight up, drop the wood in light it. I'm, that's all I do actually worry about ah human beings and sort of this, this cycle we're in this cycle of I think I'm not ah obviously in every generation, you can go all the way back to the 1800s, 1700s of people going, this is madness. Whoa, this is madness. So and it's the same shit. I'm just one of those fucks who will die ah conflicted and um potentially miserable. The first step though is to be, is you gotta you gotta be happy about the choice you made. You gotta to just not, you have to start with that, I think. I'm no, ah
00:59:47
Speaker
no guru, but I'm not your guru. That's that's the name of Tony Robbins, Netflix, especially. ah But you got to be like, I love what I'm doing now. First, I I like what I'm doing conflict free. Yeah, I like what i'm I like the choices I make. Yeah, sure. I just said need to separate from the worry about other places. But so if you say, all right, you got to love what you're doing, right? And then what if you what if if you go Escalade guy,
01:00:17
Speaker
And I have another good example, but let's use him. Is it okay to get to a point where you're happy for that guy? That's what he's into. Or you know you have such a burden of like, that guy's killing society.
01:00:29
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one tank load at a time, you can't get over that. I struggle to get to that place. I struggle to admire a house that ah kind of looks like a college library in terms of its size, like a big university's library.
01:00:48
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And I'm not sure that I can celebrate that. And I can't cheer for that person. And I find that to be disgusting. And I guess what I'm talking about are these just sort of disgusting things that I have trouble reconciling. The goal, everyone's goal is like, that's the goal for most people.
01:01:10
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Yeah, maybe. No, I'm saying that's the issue, right? Like that's the big house, big car, big big everything is the goal. And that's what's bothering you, but it's not your goal. So the first thing is just to be happy that that's not your goal. Yeah. Well, I appreciate it. I think we caught our listenership in half, but we're good. Well, we're not growing. Therefore we're we're achieving your goal yeah by getting smaller. i think i think I think we should revisit this a little as painful as it might be to listen to like,
01:01:41
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There's got to be you got you're not going to die anytime soon. You're pretty healthy. There's got to be something has to happen. You can't just be wallowing and like you can't really you can't the societal issues that you perceive. You can't you can't like ruin your life. So you're going to have to do something about it.
01:01:57
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Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It's not ruining my life necessarily. It just, there are moments, there are weeks where I just don't understand how we've gotten so stupid collectively. So so put on in all areas of our life. And that sounds obviously judgy. It's just a worry. It's a worry. i So saw anyway. But I would say it's 2024. I feel like like we didn't start the fire Lance. like No. It's always burning, dude. Yes. Thank you, Billy. Thank you, Billy. Since the world's been turning. Thank you, Billy. All right, we're out. Do you want to say the word gay again? nice Say gay? You want to say gay again and offend a lot of people? I didn't because I pull i ah clearly
01:02:46
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Put that gay comment on the guy in the Escalade, not on me. Yeah. Well, that comment will turn off and offend more people than me calling all of society a total piece of shit. No way. I don't think so. Okay. We'll see. We'll we'll look at the chat after late.
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