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talking reptile laws!!!! plus support usark
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tonight going to be talking about the laws reptile keepers have to follow in some states. plus
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Introduction and Show Setup
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Meet the Hosts and Network Promotion
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Leading up, adrenaline high. Claps and tears know how to fly.
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Gets just sweat on the track. Cold blooded eyes staring back. Metals clashing, heartbeat race. Speed and scales in the same space. Surries of speed spinning wild.
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What up everybody? How's everybody doing tonight? Welcome to Cold-Blooded Conversations. This is your host, Wally. um How's everybody doing? I'm bring up Blaze up here. What's up, Blaze?
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Hey, are you bringing me? Ah, hi. Hi, everyone. Let me turn my camera on. yeah I'm bringing you up tonight just so you can shoot the shit for a little bit.
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Hey, cool. i was I was backstage. I was uploading some graphics, a new logo Wally's channel, and he popped in, and here I am. Hi.
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Yeah, everybody, this this is our boy Blaze. It does a lot of our digital pictures and everything else. If you guys haven't noticed by watching the channel and everything else, he's mostly the man behind the magic with our pictures and Our intros and everything else. Him and Glick has really busted it out here lately, especially Blaze.
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My new backdrop that he just did tonight that I've come into magically on the show is freaking sweet. Appreciate it, Bubba. What's up, Benji? was It was a surprise. Dude, I love it, though.
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Yep.
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And if anybody wants to see it a little bit more up close... There it is. There you guys go. Get a better look at that and everything else. That is pretty sweet, man.
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I like it a lot. Hope everybody else does too. um Yeah, man. I appreciate that and everything else. and Hopefully, you've been having a pretty good, decent day today. I mean, I have so far.
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Other than it's getting late as usual. But... Yeah, just let everybody know. I'm sorry the show's a little late tonight. I ah had some family time, so that's a little more important right now, to be honest with you, but I promised everybody I'd do show tonight anyways, and here we are.
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Reptile State Laws and Challenges
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Tonight's show is in the description, I'm going to talk about some reptile state laws that I've been following and everything else for certain states and also supporting U.S. ARC, which helps us battle some of these laws that – um The politicians are trying to enforce in certain areas, in certain states, on us reptile keepers.
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But it's not just reptile keepers. People don't realize. um You go to usr.com and look up at some of the bills that they're fighting throughout all 48 connecting states if they're involved.
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There's a lot of them that deals with your birds, your mammals, cats, dogs, fish, everything. They're actually out there not only helping battle for them, are reptile keeping, but they're also battling for your normal, everyday house pet.
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So, I mean, if you guys want to give them a shout out, and check them out and everything else. Give them some support and just follow up. They got some good information on there. They've been doing a lot. um
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Biggest state that I know of that has one of the most crucial reptile keeping laws is the state of Florida. I follow a lot of YouTube guys out of Florida.
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And the permit permits and stuff, the hoops they got to jump through and license they got to get to keep certain reptiles and kant conservatories that they want to do.
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so
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heard in name Nice.
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yes man a blessing but Yeah, down there, they got strict requirements and everything else for... They got different class license.
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um One of the guys I follow is Chandler's Wildlife. The gentleman just went through and had an FDA inspection so he can actually show...
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and keep mammals on his property of different types. But he has like a class a where he can, uh, keep all types of crocodilians, alligators. Um, he's got venomous license.
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Um, his venomous license kind of pick up back to where last Thursday I was talking about the venomous and stuff. Um, he has to have a facility that is completely basically bulletproof, escape proof, double door entry. And, uh,
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where nothing can get out and the enclosures have to meet FWC requirements, which is the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission. So
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what's happening? But yeah, they, uh, he had to go through a lot of them and then it's just one of those deals that a lot of people down there, I just showed him out as an example. So he, uh,
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He had to go through stuff, showed us all the... I watched the process of all him getting his license and all that stuff and how he had to have his building set up for the venomous. and It's pretty neat. If you guys ever get a chance, it's ah called Chandler's Wildlife. It's on YouTube.
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He's a young interpreter that loves his reptiles and animals and he's down based out of Florida. So... But yeah, they go through... they have Certain restrictions, back to the laws on a lot of the stuff.
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Yes, yeah you're right. Wolf enclosures are just as crazy too. yeah yeah there But yeah, with the reptiles down there in Florida because of the... ah
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I have a question for you, Wally.
Ethics of Zoos and Animal Welfare
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Hit me with it, Bubba. Hit me with it. what's what's what's your What's your position on zoos? Ethical, not ethical, room for improvement...
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There's, for zoos, I think they're they're an amazing... mean this for all animals, even reptiles. Yeah, for everything. i'm gonna I'll give you my opinion on that, Blaze. Good question, actually. and You know, it's my opinion on that.
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Zoos can be ethical, but my pick on them, I love where you can see exotic animals that you normally can't see in the wild. But...
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the The enclosures, their exhibits, and a lot of them, unless you're, even if I've seen videos of the San Diego Zoo. I'm just throwing out names of big zoos and stuff.
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Their enclosures are not what they're these animals in the wild are used to. I mean, I know I get there a lot of them are captive bred and or they're like surrendered because they can't be in the wild or they were endangered.
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I get that. But if you really like, as Zempia said, the animals are sad. i mean, literally, you actually watch a lot of the mammals, the big cats, everything else like that, the lions.
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They are literally miserable. I mean, it's sad. i have issues with zoos when because There's not a single animal on this earth, no matter what it is, that wants to be in captivity.
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You know what I mean? yeah And I'll be honest with you. And I and i understand that. That's why with my ball pythons, my bearded dragons, a lot of us that are into that, the proper people,
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We try to give them the best they can for being where we're at. But honestly... Yes, and I don't i don't want... i don't want yeah and I don't want people to conflate my idea of zoos and ah having pets and caring for pets. your point on... And loving for your pets.
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So, yeah, yeah, there's... The zoo aspect of the things are way different, in my opinion, than pet keeping. Because honestly, with pet keeping, you can actually take the chance of giving them more open space, taking them to different ah Exactly yes you're right it Pet is a different than a display jail Correct with a pet though You can take them and you can travel Places he's got a point and I Agree 100% I'm 100% behind that mine i've i i don't um I don't think I've ever Heard that but I'm not hating that And honestly he hit it on the head It is it's like an animal jail it's basically Prison but yeah the Back to that
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But yeah, if you ever look at the big cats like the lions, the tigers, the cheetahs, yes, they may be laying around. But when they are active, you can see in their face the sadness like your dog. If you've been gone so long or you got after him, you know how they give you the whiny face, give you the pouty face.
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But these you see every day. People don't realize it. I mean, it's neat to see them. But at the same time, those animals are honestly suffering. Yeah, they really are.
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But there's a place... Where the hell is it? I know. You were talking about USARC, and i am i'm um' I'm curious about USARC and their mission. and Oh, yeah. and Yeah, you ever get a chance, man. You ought to check them out on their... Because they've actually went up a battle...
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Phil Gross, the president of the U.S. Ark, at one time, if I remember right, but I'll have to double check. Don't quote me on it. But he actually went to battle with the Bronx Zoo over the way displays were done at the Bronx Zoo because they weren't big enough for like lions and everything else and proper keeping for reptiles.
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I think it was either the Bronx Zoo or zoo out in California. It was one of the two, but I'll have to double check. Like I said, don't quote me on it. But, yeah, they – But the zoos with the zoo situation, me being the animal lover I am and everything else, and i mean reptiles are my favorite, but they there could there's a lot of room there that could be done because a lot of these big zoos have two have the space to make something where the animals aren't nearly... Right.
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Oh, you're 100% right. I get that out of my... captive red ball pythons, man. They still have the wild instinct. They don't matter if they were born right inside of an incubator here. the Mother nature is mother nature, dude. There's no taking it out no matter where they're at.
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Just like us. I mean, it's... But, yeah, with the zoos... especially the bigger zoos, big city zoos, they have all this land, but yet they don't utilize it for the animals. They utilize it for people's entertainment, um food courts and stuff. when they can actually The Columbus Zoo, I'm going use my home state zoo, the Columbus Zoo.
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Me personally, they own all kinds of land and everything else. They can make the exhibits 10 times bigger if they want. But their excuses, I've heard of multiple zoos.
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Well, we don't have the funding. We don't have this. We don't have that. But I get it. But they spend the money properly. Don't worry about the next little kid roller coaster deal.
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This exhibit over here, say for ah White Tiger, make it bigger so they're not in basically... a 10 by 10. I'm just throwing out their kind of example. but you know no I was i was stationed in South Dakota at one time and we went to i think it's Air Forest Exhibit or something like that. It's a ah it's a natural preserve of animals.
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Really? mean You get to drive through. get to see bears and other animals that they've domesticated within the park in that area you get to drive through because Sometimes when you take animals in from the wild, because ah ah we do that because when they get hurt and stuff, they become domesticate in some sense.
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Right. Sometimes these animals are sent to wild preserves. They can't necessarily survive in the wilderness, yet they're not pretty enough for the zoo. say it Yeah.
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So they go to wild wild preserves, such as there's one in South Dakota, and you get to drive through it you'd see the bears and stuff. And you're not supposed You can stop taking pictures. You're not supposed to feed them and all that.
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And there's videos of bears climbing video error into... Oh, yeah. oh Yeah, yeah, yeah. but Anyway, wild preserves, I think, um is a good balance between recovery animals...
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the wild and trying to eliminate the, the abuse and the stigma of bad zoos. Right. Yeah. So we got one of those. It's called the African Safari. It's actually down in Southern Ohio. You can drive through and you see a lot of the African life that they have.
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But the thing is with Ohio, because of our winters and stuff, A lot of them end up in what Zemfa said is the animal jails during the wintertime because they're not used to the cold cold climates, but you can drive through, see them. And I mean, they're in this place is huge. It's like two mile drive through. You need to go different routes. So what's this?
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Can't share a lot of similar stuff. They have the,
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yeah Yeah, in a way they do. But yeah, they are they're they're i mean they're a little more laxed on things than what zoos are with the captivity ordeal. I mean, it's that and too...
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Me personally, people that run zoos, er some of them don't really care for the animals. They're just there for the glitz. the Hey, I did something. But there is there's a few I've met actually at my Columbus Zoo before.
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you know They really get into taking care of the animals and everything else. But yeah, they
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but yeah they just... ah they don't really give a shit. It's just a camaraderie thing about, let me pat myself on the back. They're overeducated and they're not properly educated, which I've brought up on my conversations before.
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um
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But yeah, they, ah but yeah, they, I mean, they, they kind of, Zoos, I mean, I like them to a point. I mean, it's neat to see, like I said, people that can't afford to go like to Africa, stuff like that and everything. But at the same time, you can see like I said, you see the misery on all these animals' faces.
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Hans-Frey, I suspect that you're not a flat earther. and
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i like smart people. i love smart people. Oh, yeah. and I mean, it's... Ooh, the elephant part that of that will make you cry. Oh, great. That's bad enough.
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It's bad enough they battle that shit over where they're originally from in Africa with the poachers and shit that they and everything else that they got to deal with. But, yeah, the zoos...
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Well, this will be the last thing I say. The zoos are okay, but they're not the greatest thing in the world. but you can get some education, but it's not the greatest education.
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i mean, it's neat to see the reaction of kids. I mean, it's there, but that's also not there. The educational part of it. They leave a lot of the the history of these animals and their livelihoods out of the stuff. They only want you to know what they were taught themselves. You know what I mean?
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yes But yeah, other than that, that's my opinion on zoos on, how I mean, there's so much they could do with those two, but yeah, we'll leave it at that. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to like take you straight off your... No, Jay, we're on the animal subjects. Reptiles are part of the zoo. I mean, this is a cold-blooded... It may be a cold-blooded conversation, but if it deals with animals, dude, I'm all about it. and especially and What's more cold-blooded than giving the straight-up truth on caring for animals and their...
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And their place in the world. Right. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. Yeah. I mean, you can't go wrong with that. And I mean, like I said, I follow a lot of big name YouTube people.
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And you can see that. I mean, yes, some of it is. the They act a little goofy like that challenger does when he, you know, he does his feeding days with his crocs and stuff. But you can really see the passion he has.
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For these animals and stuff. I mean, and there's a lot of them Then there's some that are back again. They're just clout chasers that, oh, we get views because I just fed a rattlesnake on my that I have on my YouTube channel just to get views because, oh, it's a live mouse and it got killed.
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But yet people want to see death like that. And then they get all ass hurt. It's like, no, that's not what it's meant for.
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Fair enough. Fair enough.
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Oh, man, some of the zoos, it's even worse than that for the get in to actually go see that stuff, bud. It really is. and And it's ridiculous what they charge. And then half the time you go in because you'll see a sign up. i've been It's been a while since I've been, but last time we went, there was a couple of times we wanted to go see the polar bears and shit like that. The family did.
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They had signs posted, animals sick. Well, yeah, because you're not given their their proper diets, their proper, you know, just nature in itself. We're modifying it to what our specifics are and not what it actually is intended for. That's the biggest problem.
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Do you mind if I bring up a recent...
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ah Current news That I was made self-aware Within this week About this kind of topic and he just now up Go right ahead big man Bring it on buddy I think this was in Japan But apparently the zoos there Are are having um And this could be in other parts of the world The spectators Put on certain Sort of glasses when you go see the primate exhibits.
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Because primates, because they're closely related humans, can pick up on emotions when it comes to eyes and body lenses and stuff. So to prevent primates from going out of control and getting pissed off at, lack of better term, stupid humans that want to piss off primates,
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right put these glasses on so it confuses the primates that you're not effing with them. so No shit. I might have to check it out. all yeah yeah It's a cool idea, but at the same time, the fact that we need to employ something like that, it's kind of like It's real.
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Well, like like they brought up about the animal jail, that's almost like an and be like in prison. You got a lifer that's on death row and this dude's, you know, umber I'm just going to bring it up and even though it's an animal show.
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But it's like going to be in the guard like they say, keep poking the bear, you're gonna it's going to end up biting the ass. Well, you're playing with the animal's emotions, especially the way they got, since you brought up the gorilla exhibit, prime example, that is one of the shittiest exhibits in any fucking zoo I've ever seen videos, pictures of, because you really see the emotions, like you said, of them, and they really do. They show the sadness.
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you Literally, I've seen videos and pictures where there's gorillas crying, all because people are being fucking douchebags, or a little kid, I watched a video a couple weeks ago, little kid's first time ever going to a zoo and putting his hand up, and then actually they showed the silverback gorilla. This was out and actually out in California at San Diego Zoo.
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It actually started crying when he put his hand up to the glass with this little kid. It literally shed a tear. they zoom The parents zoomed in on it. That's sad. Yeah, and this is the kind of... and and The primates are actually, my opinion, one of the worst treated animals in a zoo, in my opinion.
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Honestly, are. Hands down. There was so much shit given given to the movie Free Willy, but I think that's such a more broad fucking implication of a story that I think we just kind of like forgot and ignored over the years. Yeah.
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Right. yeah art It is. well in the And then we'll get back into like my reptile side.
Reptile Smuggling and Responsible Ownership
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Yes, I understand snakes, lizards, and stuff really aren't meant to be what they are.
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Yes, years ago, these animals that are in the pet trade... i what be australian novel just with yeah Hey, Xanfius. don't think it did. You guys got that link, didn't you? It's the Indian billionaire who built a huge refuge and rescued slave animals.
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It's not open to pay. I'm not completely sure. If that's the story I was referencing, not knowing it, then don't know. That probably is. Oh, wow.
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Yeah, and I've seen i've seen where the lynx and stuff, well, that's just like the ah the white the Bengal tigers and stuff not having the pools to swim in and everything like they enjoy over in Asia where they're poached and everything else for their teeth and their fur and shit.
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But, yeah, they ah it's just crazy the way they were s these reptiles and stuff were honestly smuggled over here into the pet trade from people taking trips.
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And to some people made a career out of it. And a lot of these animals out there now, we call their CBB, which is their captive bred babies. They're literally born now here.
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But like 30, I think 30 or 40 years ago, one of the biggest names in the pet trade, he used to be a smuggler. And then, I mean, I don't have no disrespect for the guy, nothing else.
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But he's learned his lesson because he actually did jail time for this stuff. But now he's an educator of like of being an animal keeper. And that's Tom Crutchfield.
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It's Tom Crutchfield. He used to be him and a bunch of guys used to smuggle animals in into the states. Tom, T-O-M. Crutchfield.
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C-R-U-T-H. And then field after. Should be able to pull him up. I might have misspelled that, but it's right there, Tom. cru Yeah. But, yeah, he he was cool the day but he was back in the day. He was one of the ones that brought a lot of these exotic zotic animals and stuff in and stuff.
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Whoa, that's pretty sweet. ah Awesome. Thank you. Wait. But yeah, they but yeah he he was back in the day, of the early times, getting into it.
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Just like with the ball python situation, how it got populated. how ah normal What is a normal considered a normal ball python now, back when it first was here in the States, was almost $50,000 for a ma python.
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And it wasn't even nothing fancy. I'm just saying, I'm just starting to... I'm just saying, I know nothing about reptiles, reptile trades, none of that. I just, I love animals. That's about as... ah yeah then they are But yeah, they were making, I mean, they were making hand over fist, basically like a, they were the animal cartel, we will per se, back in the days of the 70s and stuff, when that was going on.
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Now the gentleman and his family have a facility in Florida that's got lots of land. They educate people on the animals and the proper ways to take care of them. don't believe in karma. I don't. get that sentiment.
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I do. I 100%. love my dogs. My dogs love me. If that ah do and do one hundred percent ah love my dogs yope dogs love me and if that was a measurement of one's value or what you're going to be in the next slide.
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I'm golden, but I think, uh, yeah thank Yeah, I get it. ah yeah that yeah But yeah they yeah, he's another one big name that I follow, and he educates a lot of people.
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His animals, legit. They've got their hides. They've got their areas. When the weather's bad, they go in and hide, and they take care of But they pretty much free roam this property in big areas of different, I mean, he's got different lizards, different snakes.
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But I mean, this stuff, his place is freaking amazing now. But yeah, when I first found out about him, I did some research. This was about 10 years ago.
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And I didn't realize, I mean, I like, I idolize the guy until i'm I'm like, but I'm not judging him on his past because of, he showed me the way of correcting your character.
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It just, he, that just goes to show you, he learned his lesson and he learned from it. And he's trying to teach people basically not to do the shit he was doing. But yeah, animal wise, I mean,
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It's neat. But yeah, to the U.S. ARC, it's United States of America reptile keepers. It is a huge ordeal for in the reptile community.
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But like i was saying earlier, here lately, a lot of these bills states are passing telling people, You can't keep this animal. You can't keep that animal. Or you're only allowed one of these or one of this.
00:28:52
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I get there's a regular, you know, you got to regulate yourself. You basically got to police within yourself. You can't be like the crazy cat lady next door that has a thousand cats that you never see come outside. I'll use it use that as an example.
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But. It's very, very, very good example. I mean, you can't. i mean you can't You can't, if if if you want if you want the government to stay out of your business, well then be responsible.
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Exactly. And this is the problem. And this is why ARC was started is because of irresponsible, I'm going to say, assholes that cannot respect the animal that they have in the reptile community.
00:29:38
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But a lot of the bullshit that happened with Florida, which they have their version called US Arc Florida, they're battling the legit reputable reptile keepers um are getting a bad name because people want to be idiots.
00:29:54
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And their prime example, there's a bill that just came up recently in south the state of South Carolina over keeping venomous. There was a guy...
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oh I think it was back in September of last year. Makes videos, everything else. He was handling, I believe it was an inland taipan from Australia.
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Free handling. No hook, no tools, nothing else. What's that what's an inland taipan? It is a One of the top 10 most venomous snakes in the world. Their venom is known to kill you within less than 30 minutes if you don't get help for it.
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It attacks your nervous system, your bloodstream, your i mean everything basically in your body, and you will bleed out from every orifice there is possible without being properly treated.
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Well, this dude was being a dick with a baby, basically got it out, freehandle it and everything else, got himself fucking bit, made national news with this ordeal and everything, headlines, and damn near died from it.
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But he sees no wrong in free handling snakes like this um and getting bitten, damn near dying. And it cost him almost $8 million dollars to save his fucking life.
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holy Because of this bite and the special anti-venom that they had to get for him for this shit. So now South Carolina's government is jumping in and anybody that's an actual responsible keeper that uses your tools, uses your proper equipment, are paying the price because of one dumbass.
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they will Go ahead, Blaze. All right. You say this and all I can think of is I'm a person that likes to go out and explore nature. This summer i plan on hitting the Appalachians a little bit more in South Carolina. This isn't that far from that.
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Hang on a minute. Go ahead. Keep talking to everybody. i've I've been in situations in my life where I've come across rattlers and other different snakes with my travels through the woods.
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So Knowing that that when it comes to rescue care or emergency care, urgent care, or whatever you want to call it, and when you're out exploring the world, like exploring the world is something that we should do to learn.
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at the same time, it's it's good to know that there are people out there that... that save these anti-vanom kits, that take the time to do this stuff to help when possible. I know it's Not 100%. People are still going to die, unfortunately. right But it's it's it's good to have this stuff on hand.
00:33:00
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It's good to ah recognize the need for this stuff, especially if if if if we're going to be an explorative species that learns and takes in knowledge and the better the future and our exploration of the world.
00:33:18
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i this thing These things important to those things, like anti-Venom, knowing the snakes, where to have them, exploration sites, all that good stuff. it's It's important. so yeah Right.
00:33:37
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Well, and the thing of it is you brought a good point up.
Respecting Wildlife and Proposed Bans
00:33:40
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you want to People need to self-educate themselves. I mean, and exploring and everything else, nature like you were talking.
00:33:51
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Respect all life. It's human ignorance and ego that makes them think they're superior and just because they can, they should. Other than personal respect of what says humans life is worth more.
00:34:05
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Quote unquote. That's from Zampius. Zampius, I agree. um We are not these. like I know. i think what he's pretty much saying us humans go around thinking we beat at our chest. We're the Yeah, we're the cream of the crop.
00:34:24
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But we're just as acceptable to nature as every other species on this world, and we can just as easily folly. So just keep that mind.
00:34:37
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um That's what I got out of that know that sort Well that too I mean Honestly we we people may think we're the top of the food chain Me personally Mother nature is top of the food chain I mean that we're all part of mother nature If we can't all coexist It don't matter you're a human animal or not There's always going to be something out there That we're not that could take us out Or there could be you know Like you brought up hiking.
00:35:07
Speaker
Look how many different bear attacks and stuff happen in certain states where bears are big at because you're invading invading their territory. They were here before we were.
00:35:20
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I mean, I'm going to be honest with you. It's just one of those things. but Animals were here way before the human life was even thought of, my opinion, my opinion.
00:35:31
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but it But yeah, you always seen about bears attacks and all this stuff. And the thing of it is with some of the bear attacks, most of them happen because there's mother bears. If you dig into it more, they were protecting their cubs majority of the time.
00:35:47
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It wasn't always a provocative thing. They were territorial because they had cubs around. But then there's... Yeah, wild animals just don't go...
00:35:59
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don't go about their day and be like, you know what? I'm going to attack one today. I'm going to go fuck them up. No, they don't do that.
00:36:10
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No. well that's like ah Leave us alone. the mu you Don't leave them alone. They're going to fuck back. They're going to do what they were intended to do. Prime example of but Mother Nature shows where he just said stupid people usually.
00:36:28
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yeah Zampius is one of our most intelligent viewers. I love you, my dog.
00:36:37
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That was weird.
00:36:40
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but yeah Like the bison situation out at Yellowstone Guy was being a fucking moron He's like oh I'm going to go up And I'm going to go pet this bison What do you think a wild bison Is going to do when you're around a herd With babies in it Oh I'm going to let you pet me No I'm going to fuck your world up Because you're messing with everything else You're messing with our livelihood I've been through there I've seen those bison You watch them.
00:37:09
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You appreciate them. You take pictures of them. But you stay far away from them. Don't touch them. Yeah. You think that happens after that?
00:37:22
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That you get hurt out of it? I'm sorry. You did it to yourself. Exactly. You found out. I mean, that's the thing. We're invading their area and people want these animals killed off Dude, no, we're taking their space. We need to learn to coexist.
00:37:42
Speaker
But that's where it comes back to the educational part of how to coexist. And that's what I preach. And I've learned this over... Cohabitation. Cohabitation.
00:37:53
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But the thing of it is, is...
00:37:58
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That would... That right there would be scary. Yeah. I drive a small car. i know if hy drove or If I drove through the freaking Bear Reserve in South Dakota and I started fucking with the goddamn bear and he flipped my car, you know what?
00:38:17
Speaker
Nobody, nobody, nobody but me is responsible for that dumb fuckery. Right. and that's the thing And that's the thing. Mother Nature's there, like you said, to observe from afar.
00:38:33
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It's not to be out in nature. sure You walk up and fucking, oh, it's might like my puppy dog. I'm going to go up and pet the damn thing. I think what some people forget that us humans, we are part of Mother Nature.
00:38:45
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And there is this sense of species um ah so ah essence to want to survive.
00:38:59
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<unk>y Not just us humans Other species out there in the wild Will we go out there and fuck with them They have no other instinctual fucking reaction but to fuck with us back.
00:39:14
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And sometimes they're better. They usually win, but they they win. But it's in then down the road, because of that fucking with them, those animals eventually lose their lives because they're wild animals. Well, this person got attacked by this bison, which ended up happening.
00:39:34
Speaker
They went out and actually killed the damn... Yeah, because like... one human who will fuck with wild nature and then wild nature will fuck that human back, kill that human and then all those other humans will be like, oh, I'm petty. I have to go get revenge on wild nature. And that's the part that some days it makes me ashamed to be a human being, to be honest with you. Especially when it comes to animals. You just shake your head like you dumb fuckers. You have nothing to be ashamed of because you understand that as a human, we're just as much as part of the wild nature fucking world we live in as any other fucking animal in this fucking world.
00:40:22
Speaker
I'll go back now to that bill in South Carolina that they're passing. They're trying to get it now i want to But yeah, it just brings up... You brought a good point in where it went along with this, with the stupidity of humans fucking with nature.
00:40:37
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Well, with this law that they're doing... They're wanting to get rid of any erectile period, not just the venomous snakes, exotic, you know, like your exotic animals.
00:40:49
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They're wanting to ban them, not even give them a chance to people that's reputable breeders, reputable animal keepers, you know, take care of them properly. They want a complete statewide ban on this stuff.
00:41:02
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So i don't, first of all,
00:41:10
Speaker
I don't know how to answer this question without getting political. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Wally. I don't want to get political. Bring it, man, because the sad part of it is it is political because the government literally stuck their nose in instead of letting the policing action amongst the reptile keepers handle the situation.
00:41:31
Speaker
They're trying to change laws. To where it suits them and not the actual bill So hit me with it man Bring it on Bubba Considering that it was a ah Spontaneous thing and I'm up here tonight And this is a political Discussion now because This is about a political bill Politicians Let me your ears um And turn off Your bias Not all humans are the same. Some of us are stupid and they we don't understand how to properly care for animals and coexist with things.
00:42:12
Speaker
That is a minority. Just like we don't like to um
00:42:21
Speaker
oppress the majority over the minority, you have to realize that not all humans... have that same sentiment that a lot of us are able to learn to coexist with animals and have pets and learn how to take care of them regardless of how exotic quote unquote they are.
00:42:41
Speaker
I think labeling and quoting i think labeling and a pet as exotic ignores the fact that a human being capable because this is when humans are above the rest of the animals because we are capable of understanding things so we are capable to understand that a lizard that we adopt ah i don't know a monitor lizard from Guam okay from the Pacific Isles has different necessities and and ecology and things to keep them alive.
00:43:20
Speaker
And somebody with an exotic knowledge of animals would know that compared to somebody that wants to keep a crocodile from South Africa because they live in a different environment than that monitor lizard from Guam.
00:43:39
Speaker
Now, you can't sit here and think that all humans in this country are dumb and can't comprehend that and pass laws that restrict that sort of stuff.
00:43:49
Speaker
You have to give humans the ability to to express their knowledge and their
Self-Governance in Animal Keeping
00:43:57
Speaker
intelligence. If you can't restrict everybody based on a few dumb people, I think is basically what I wanted to get to.
00:44:06
Speaker
And the sad part of it is us and the in the animal world, we see this on the regular, man. Yeah. it's And it's sad. We get labeled because of the dumb few people out there.
00:44:19
Speaker
Yeah. That are irresponsible. I have friends that have that have exotic plant plants. Well, that too. But pets, parrots, and and all sorts of gators and all sorts of things. but right And I know these people personally. and they hate They take a chunk of their life out to sit there and learn.
00:44:44
Speaker
Learn. And they read books. And they spend days out of their fucking lives learn how to fucking care for this animal that they're fucking adopting.
00:44:56
Speaker
But because of onend one but one bunch of people that don't want to be that responsible, cost people like that, like me, and like all my other idols that I idolize, that we have to fight to try to show that we're not like these dumbasses, like this guy did in South Carolina.
00:45:17
Speaker
And then then the other thing with bringing up this guy too, he has been the only one that's been reported in South Carolina also to have a king cobra escape from his facility because he didn't properly have it aye put up or in a building that was properly done.
00:45:35
Speaker
So, I mean, if with the policing within our communities, of the animal community, just like car communities, everything else, that that But in the animal community, we need to establish a guideline of the proper techniques, the proper, if you're going to keep this stuff as pets or as a business, the proper guidelines, the proper education, it's there at our fingertips more now.
00:46:06
Speaker
Joe Exotic, that's a totally different situation with that. okay so i don't know Okay, so I don't know much about this role, but I do know enough that that guy, that guy, that guy. Goodbye.
00:46:21
Speaker
that that is that Honestly, that motherfucker's another one that's literally an irresponsible, arrogant prick, in my opinion. He got what he fucking deserved. I'm sorry.
00:46:35
Speaker
Even if What's-Her-Face is still wrong, they're both wrong. Yes, they were both... the The sad part is he got what he deserved. She's going to get what she deserves in the long run. But still, they're both dumbasses that we have to deal with because of this shit.
00:46:51
Speaker
Like that whole Tiger King shit. like like When that shit first came out, man, it took me months to finally sit down and be like, okay, I'm going to watch what everybody's fucking crying about.
00:47:02
Speaker
Then I watched it I'm like... Why is everybody taking sides? Fuck both of them. Yeah, they're both close. That's exactly what I... Yeah.
00:47:15
Speaker
And that that right there was actually for the longest time when that was going on. I always heard somebody memming that every time around and stuff. but yeah But yeah, he also had it where he had, like I said, a King Cobra literally legit get loose and go four city blocks in his area That he was reported and got cited for. Four City Blocks isn't a small area.
00:47:39
Speaker
isn' it a small area Yeah, it is. And that's where they ended up catching it. Four city blocks down in this area he was living in.
00:47:51
Speaker
And he all he got was basically a ticket and told to make sure you don't let it happen again. And then this bullshit last last summer, last fall, where he's free handling on YouTube, making a live video.
00:48:04
Speaker
And I mean, this Inland Taipan was a baby. Is he still making videos? I hadn't seen him in Yeah. He hasn't made video not for a long time.
00:48:16
Speaker
But this guy in South Carolina, he was... but this guy in south carolina this guy in south carolina he was Yeah, he was just free handling, not using, it like I said, snake hooks and shit, and he paid the price for it.
00:48:29
Speaker
Now, the like I said, the rep keepers and stuff worldwide, it don't even just affect their – it's hitting in the state. But once shit like this starts, it's a vicious cycle.
00:48:42
Speaker
It just state to state, country to country. I mean, but yeah, they want to ban all exotic animals in the state of South Carolina right now.
00:48:52
Speaker
Like right now, that lizard that came across the screen that one night you guys were all on with me and Jeff freaking flipped out over, they are completely banned in South Carolina because people – Oh, it's a cute little lizard. Didn't realize it was going to be almost a five foot long lizard.
00:49:12
Speaker
So they thought, oh, it's going to survive in the wild.
00:49:17
Speaker
they just let it go. So they them dance.
00:49:24
Speaker
See, so when people say that there should be regulations on who should own light, Like, there's this, like, give and take. Like, I understand on onelip ah one point. That's the thing. That's the thing. Where there is an over and over thing. So, it's like, don't ban it.
00:49:47
Speaker
Like, have the citizen prove to the state that it can done. That's exactly what Florida does. That's why they do what they do down there with the keepers. I understand people don't like the idea oh, I have to go and pay for a license?
00:50:06
Speaker
You pay for a fishing license. There's a reason why people have a license. That way you don't fucking get on the road and kill people. They don't own a fucking lizard or reptile to kill people.
00:50:19
Speaker
No. There's reason for that shit. They're your enjoyment and pleasure. But, yeah, I mean, there is some of them, too, with the FWC. I'm never not going to not laugh at that. Yeah, I couldn't.
00:50:35
Speaker
As soon as I seen that, I started laughing myself. But, yeah, the FWC, they kind of they have those kind of things in place. But sometimes I've been seeing – hello FWC there in Florida has been trying to bend the rules a little bit in their favor, which is bend them in the ass because the laws are put there, and and once you show them and you're doing proper, they have to back the fuck off.
00:51:07
Speaker
So, but yeah, it's... But, I mean, that's the thing. Something similar to that stuff, I mean, i can get it. But, like I said, a lot of the policing needs to be done in our own community.
00:51:24
Speaker
Jesus Christ. Oh, man. You mean don't want to live in person? Hey, man, want to go hit a cut ah hit a hit a cafe, have a cup of coffee, and let's talk about how the world is burning?
00:51:39
Speaker
but yeah But yeah, I mean, there's that we we try to govern in our own community as a group of proper capers, like I was saying, but it's hard to do it when it's affecting more than just in your like my area or this area.
00:52:00
Speaker
It's a countrywide thing that we have to unite together, and I mean, You said it yourself. You said it yourself. You try to govern within.
00:52:14
Speaker
You try to self-govern within your own industry. And I think that is a very, very important thing that needs to be stressed.
00:52:25
Speaker
I think that is very important. when Because we have government coming in and making these absurd freaking rules that, that, that you can sit there as somebody that's been in the industry and like, wait, like, I understand the intent, but that doesn't actually fix the problem.
00:52:47
Speaker
have the people that are that within the industry that sees the problem and agrees it with the unethical shit and have them within the industry and make that decision because you guys are the experts.
00:53:03
Speaker
Right. And you guys can even bring in other experts that might not be within the reptile industry, but adjacent when it comes to right ah animal rights and et cetera. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:53:21
Speaker
Basically it's yeah it's one of those deals That's what why USARC was brought about It's basically we're governing inside of ourselves But they do Our legal battles you I mean you can you support them Donations and you actually You can go on on And it shows you where your money goes And what it does and everything else as home park school sounds like the apeia It sounds like the or the the NRA or something like that. They're a group with, ah they have lawyers within their group.
00:53:57
Speaker
They have donations out fight for protections of a certain. oh just What is cool, what what is cool though is, is these lawyers and stuff, they're actually part of our community.
00:54:08
Speaker
That's what's even makes it even neater. It's not like some, it's not even like some random Joe Smo high, I think that you're going to pay all this money. ah No, they're actually within our community as a keepers and everything else.
00:54:24
Speaker
So they know the ins and outs like the back of their hand and they can go to battle for us doing this. It's not like that. And and so it's kind of a got the upper hand when it's like, okay, you want to go to court?
00:54:36
Speaker
Let's rock and roll. We got, we got our lawyer here and we're going he's going to, you know, or she's going to show. Oh, yeah. like but so you have So you have people on your side that not only are legally knowledgeable, but they're knowledgeable in and the animals that they're representing. yeah and And they're also knowledgeable in the community that they're representing.
00:55:01
Speaker
Yes, sir. That's awesome. and i That's a rare thing. That's an amazing thing, if you ask me. but yeah But yeah, it's one of those deals we we ch I mean You're always going to have your bad apples No matter, if it don't matter Where it's at, what it is But it's The sad part is in the animal side Of it, it's more Yeah, you're right Yeah
00:55:35
Speaker
Zampius, I feel right Zampius, feel right europe You're one of those weird socialist anarchist motherfuckers that I give a high five to buy you beer.
00:55:51
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, it's sort it's one of those deals, and it and it just sucks that we got to deal with it. But it's also tying in everybody that keeps animals. Like I said, birds, fish,
00:56:04
Speaker
Everything else, that they're they're throwing it in along with the reptile bills and stuff. There was once one town here in Ohio, USARC went and actually came to Ohio and shut down the bill that this town was trying to do where you can only keep one domesticated cat, one domesticated dog, and that was all you were allowed as a pet.
00:56:29
Speaker
Xanfius, I agree. i my When I started to go for my bachelor's, I had the same sort of fucking experience. These laws are subjective on their face as is. like These laws are based off subjective morals and opinions and yada, yada, yada.
00:56:48
Speaker
um So, I mean, there might be a little bit of conventional wisdom in there, maybe a little bit of objectable facts when it comes to some these laws when they're being debated, but overall they are subjective when it comes to the laws.
00:57:08
Speaker
Unfortunately, it's just the way it is. And Zanfie has this very, very, very good point. yeah when we're When we're told that your opinion is wrong when in the disposition of it, like an opinion is what it is. It's subjective.
00:57:27
Speaker
Right. if you if if If you want to ask somebody's opinion, and I use that loosely on their, on on a particular,
00:57:40
Speaker
on on certain matter, if they give you more than opinion, they give you objectable facts, then you have to ignore the idea that you even asked for opinion because... Their mind was already made up by the time they... Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:57:57
Speaker
ah The stupid law interpretation and that depends on the interpreters. Exactly. Basically where we're heading with that, yes. And it's the truth. really is.
00:58:08
Speaker
Like you can, oh, opinions. Opinions is one of those things I like to fuck with because that word itself and also incorporate the idea of facts. Like I can have the opinion that one plus one is two.
00:58:24
Speaker
And it's also factual that one plus one is two as well. But anyway, that's a whole David Hume discussion that we're not here for. right Well, and i mean i um I mean, the thing with the opinions is, too, if you, like you said, you give the facts about something, you basically, when you give somebody facts with your opinion, like I tell people, you want to learn more about it, go look it up.
00:58:53
Speaker
If you don't believe what I'm saying are telling you I'm not going to feed you a line of shit when it comes to this stuff because I go and look up a lot of stuff that I don't understand, especially still.
00:59:04
Speaker
Every day you're learning something new in this community. It don't matter. You think you're the most educated person. I've seen some of the biggest names in the game. They're still learning new tricks and new new ways to make things better, and they've been doing it 30, 40 fucking years, and they're still learning new stuff because somebody said, hey,
00:59:26
Speaker
Why don't you try this once and if or go look this up and see if this will help with this situation? should be ah oh my God. Dude, you're killing me tonight, man. you did Keep it up.
00:59:42
Speaker
But, no. But, yeah, I mean, they're learning. But then you got, like, you right back to where we're at again, the uneducated that are willing to get educated, they just think,
00:59:54
Speaker
And what don't help matters in this situation too is as he these fucking big corporate pet stores. They don't help nothing because all they care about is the high mighty dollar from selling this fucking animal.
01:00:08
Speaker
They don't give you the proper tools, the proper education to take care of these animals. And they don't tell you, umm go you buy a freaking Burmese python when it's only this big.
01:00:21
Speaker
Then they're going to tell you it's going to be a 14, 15 foot long snake in 10 years. footlong snake and ten years Because you weren't properly educated or took the time to learn this shit.
01:00:32
Speaker
Because, oh, we were told by this person this is what it is. Because we're a big corporate pet chain. I hate them to an extent to the point that it drives me nuts. but That's weird, man.
01:00:47
Speaker
That's like me going to a... love the idea that I can go to a dispensary buy weed. But right there's that big butt in there. these a big big That's a big, big, but, but yeah, I mean, they just don't give the proper, they don't give you nothing to learn.
01:01:06
Speaker
They don't tell you to point you in the proper direction because all they see that $50 fricking animal, that's $50. Our store just made. Who cares what the animal is?
01:01:17
Speaker
They're just like zoos. With the way they take care of them. Because they're just a quick. The zoos are a permanent like quick sale. Pet stores. Corporate chain pet stores.
01:01:28
Speaker
they're They're a fucking joke. i've more I've actually had a corporate pet store here in my town. Pisses me off to the point I walk in there because my local hobby store that's privately owned and they're properly educated run out of supplies that I have.
01:01:45
Speaker
I have to go up there and get them. Every time I walk by there any of their animal shit, their fish, their snakes, their lizards, whatever they have, birds, I get so pissed because these animals are not set up like you would have them if you were properly educated.
01:02:00
Speaker
Oh, this is what the store, this is what corporate tells us to do. Well, I guess I can wait until my store gets back in supply. I've walked out multiple times because of that. It just pisses me off.
01:02:12
Speaker
correct Exactly. You're right. They are. They're just merchandise like going to any store, buying clothes, buying food. And it sucks. The Walmart effect. that They're merchandise. He's right.
01:02:26
Speaker
Yes, yes, they are. And that's so sad. And it's sad that it's that way. That should not be merchandise. That should not be merchandise. And the sad part is, Blaze, to hit the soft subject with you and me both because we're both dog lovers,
01:02:43
Speaker
Pet stores that sell dogs. They're just merchandise. And they're not nothing. I've never got a dog. for I'm so mixed on this. um My dog has never come from a pet store. It's been a local person.
01:02:57
Speaker
Every time. All my dogs are usually rescues. um But at the same time, I don't like to say don't. Stop dogs and cats and animals from pet stores because they need homes too.
01:03:14
Speaker
They don't need a waste away in pet stores. No, there's this, but there's this like buckery about, right? Like we don't want, like, we don't want to see pets and pet stores suffer.
01:03:30
Speaker
we so we So we want to adopt them, but we don't want to adopt them because we don't want pet stores to think that it's okay for that to keep happening. But then we have to adopt them. I know. It's just like... true Oh, yeah. It's a double edge it's a double-edged sword with that shit, man. It really is.
01:03:50
Speaker
It's a pet adoption paradox. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, I mean, that's the that's the thing. That's why um when I eventually get time to set up and talk to the manager of this store that's locally owned,
01:04:06
Speaker
I'm actually going to do a tour and video it and I'll post it up. I'm going to try to go live actually on this channel. One of these days. I mean, it may be mid afternoon. If you want to do something like that and and record and then we can upload it after editing or something, you don't, yeah you can do it live. That's fine.
01:04:27
Speaker
But keep in mind when you're, when, Go to the area before. Check your Wi-Fi connection. Check on any connection. that if If you can go live and it will stream, fine, do it.
01:04:41
Speaker
If not, go ahead and just do a recording. right and it's in yeah yeah doing my I'm to do my homework before I go in, but I want to get a time. I'd like to get a time set up because when I do this, but ideal but besides doing it for this network, I'm to throw it on my YouTube channel that I do.
01:05:00
Speaker
And so people that can get that too. But I want to show what the local. What?
01:05:09
Speaker
What? That is insane, dude. That is ridiculous. I don't know nothing about that shit. Me either. That's like black market bullshit right there, bud.
01:05:20
Speaker
ah But yeah, I mean, I'm going try to get a time set up. I mean, the worst case scenario is I video record it and i I'll have it where we can put I'll put it up. we'll go meet I'll get a hold of you and we'll go through it. and you know But I want to show people what it's like where you see people that actually give a shit about their job.
01:05:42
Speaker
about how they take care of the animals. Yes, they are there to make money on them, but I'll tell you what, every time I've ever watched it walked into that store, you're treated like family, and they treat those animals just like they keep at their house, even if they only have dogs.
01:05:57
Speaker
ah want to i in This has no bearing on tonight's show. There you go, Bubba. But this is a creative thing that just popped in my head because I'm going to start doing this summer when it comes to an upcoming event next month.
01:06:13
Speaker
but I'm going to take some some some videos. I'm going to create a video montage. I'm going to post it up. So if you ever go out to any, like, lizard... um is there or reptile farms or anything like that, if you take video and stuff, dude, we can make a collage, a video montage, and we can throw it up just for shits and giggles. Yeah, definitely. I can do that. Absolutely. Well, I mean, and then it fits in with this.
01:06:40
Speaker
But, yeah, I want to just – I just want to show that there is people out there, especially the local hobby, that has storefronts, especially here where I'm at in in Ohio, that actually they do put the care into it.
01:06:54
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I forgot. Yeah, you're right. Out there, out in the Midwest, out there, it is huge, especially in Oklahoma and Kansas. It is big out that way. it i it's So, I hear stories of human trafficking, but, I mean, the only time I hear about animal trafficking is usually in movies and stuff.
01:07:15
Speaker
I don't usually take it to heart o too too much, but is that a huge thing? Is that like a... yeah Is it a huge thing that it's there, but because it's animals, it's not really looked at too much? or it's it It's exactly what you just said. it Because it's an animal, they really don't give to two shits about a lot of it.
01:07:41
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The biggest black market situation that they deal with is actually in the Asian countries, man. And over in Africa with the hu But mostly in Asia, especially reptiles, and there's so much that has been exposed on YouTube that people actually been shot at everything else for exposing these black market areas.
01:08:08
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It's crazy. But yes, animals are they are the least concern of the black market. Other than within our community, basically. It's another one of those that comes, oh, this is a black market animal. Oh, no, no, no, no. We can't do that.
01:08:23
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ah You know? But it and it happens. I mean, it's one of those deals. People deal with it. So USARC is, all right. So USARC is just reptiles or is it all
Broad Animal Laws and Criticism of Activist Groups
01:08:35
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animals? sort of As of right now, it is the reptile area.
01:08:40
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But a lot of their they're battles that they've been going to these certain states, especially major laws, when you look up some of the laws, there's also, like I said, included your birds, your fish.
01:08:54
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Like New York, they went to battle for back in November. They wanted to get away with the – or people couldn't even have fish, transportation of fish.
01:09:05
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You couldn't even sell them within the state of New – yes, sir. Wow. But that was also a reptile – part of the reptile bill that they were pushing. Well, USARC went in, even with the fish keepers that have legit fish keeping businesses and stuff like that.
01:09:21
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They went to battle right side by side with them. And it got shut it got shut down. But yeah, some of these bills include along, but the reptile part is the main topic of the bills.
01:09:33
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Yeah, yeah, well yeah. but that that's that' That's their primary focus. But they but but they also have the other side. Yeah. Gotcha, okay. Yep. but yeah they are But yeah, it's USARC.com.
01:09:46
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And then also, you like I said, USARC Florida, which is their own deal down in Florida and stuff. But they do help each other throughout everything to help with the reptile community.
01:09:57
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I mean, everybody screens fucking the other animal places. Oh, you shouldn't wear fur. But they're actually one of the worst people out there in the world, the PETA or whatever the hell it is.
01:10:09
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they They really don't give a shit. at They're clout chasers. I've done my research on these other organizations that they say they care for the animals. They're just a bunch of fucking clout chasers that take people's money.
01:10:20
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I've done homework on them. And, yeah, they're a joke. I've really dug deep into them, and it's like, yeah, I'm not supporting nothing.
01:10:29
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Everywhere here there are breeders. Hollywood buys them. Where are they? Yeah, you're right, man. You guys are for the for the ah tigers, cats, and everything because they don't they don't have a exotic laws as we call them where everything else is.
01:10:46
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and and So, yes, they're very lax. so I can see so i can see the idea. Okay, so. This is this is this is kind of where I'm split, night and I don't want to take up too much time. but You're good, Bubba.
01:11:02
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I can see there is a reasonable expectation to have breeders and pet owners, their rights to be um acknowledged.
01:11:16
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I see that there is what Zanfius just brought up with Hollywood. um Yeah, when it comes to movies and stuff There is a place for exotic animals And I think that is something that should Be taken into consideration When it comes to exotic animal trade When it comes to upkeep And the care of them ah And healthcare care too For animals That's important too
01:11:48
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so i think i think there is a I think there's a good argument for all of this. And ah never really thought about the impacts, but until Zanfie's brought to Hollywood, because that is another aspect in this whole idea of exotic animals, not just reptiles, but as a whole. Everything.
01:12:08
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Yeah. Yeah. yeah Yeah. And the side part is. really like lot all So there isn't really legal, quote unquote, legal breeders. No, there's not. They're basically what he's talking about.
01:12:24
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I'm going to say this. As as the network's social selectie fucking hippie motherfucker. Hit us. I love me a good motherfucking burger. Fuck Peter.
01:12:35
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Anyway, ahead.
01:12:38
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But yeah, but yeah there know a lot of them, what he's talking about, there is legal breeders, and then there's what he was saying that sells to Hollywood. They're just after the money.
01:12:50
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The animals aren't properly taken care of. like They're worse than zoos. if you would me if if If Hollywood had the proper regulations against them, you would think they would be kept from doing that.
01:13:06
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You would think, but also think about it, Blaze, you brought up the other thing about the human trafficking situation along with the animal deal. The animals, the human thing is here.
01:13:19
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The animals are here. Hollywood's got money what kind of thing. So it's one of those deals. They're like, oh, it's just an animal. It's just the lion. But the sad part is,
01:13:31
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Majority of those animals either die or they end up dying in a fucking zoo that they get surrendered to after they've been abused making movies. Well, it's a good thing I didn't come here tonight expecting to have a whole new perspective on capitalism because that didn't happen.
01:13:53
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Because I think the trafficking of any any sort of lies, human, animals, anything is horrid. Well, yeah. you well and i mean and And he just brought up here about they train them and stuff.
01:14:05
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Yes, they treat them like family. But the bad part is, man, I've seen some behind the scenes of older like what the chimpanzees and stuff that were raised that way.
01:14:17
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Hollywood, eventually what happened was these people that train these animals end up having to give up their rights for training because we brought an expert in where the animals get neglected and abused.
01:14:30
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Now, if they get to stay with these animals while they're training for Hollywood, kick ass, man, because you know they're going to get treated right. But three-quarters of that ordeal is but those animals fucking suffer, and it pisses me off big time.
01:14:46
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If anybody, if this and this is a message to anybody out there, if anybody tells you that I treat you like family, don't oh don't think that's like a good thing. Because family beat each other, too. I'm just saying.
01:15:02
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I'm just saying. Parents will beat the shit out of their kids and their family, too. You brought up a good prime example right there. Besides Hollywood, the circuses are just as fucking bad, man.
01:15:14
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Look at what happened to the ringlet. I need to take a break real quick. I'll be right back. You brought up a good point. yeah The circuses are just as bad as the zoos and shit, man.
01:15:27
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Those animals travel in what I call dog crates just to put on and make money for people. And then when they're sick and everything else, they're just pushed off to the wayside, which is bullshit.
01:15:39
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But once again, it comes back, there are people oh, they're just animals, man. No, they've got a lifeline like Blaze was saying. We've got to understand. And people just doesn't want to understand And get educated properly about this stuff.
01:15:55
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I mean, that's just the biggest biggest deal. i'm so Like I said, I'm still learning a lot of shit. There's shit I didn't know about certain things. I've changed the way I've done stuff. I'm still learning.
01:16:07
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There's a lot of my idols, like I said. They're still learning, and a lot of them has been in the game 30, 40 years. And they've changed things. but it's just, they just, shit just irritates me.
01:16:21
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And I have watched that documentary on that circus animals. Just to answer your question, man. That I didn't even make it 20 minutes into it and I had to turn it off. I never finished it because it just, it irritated the hell out of me.
01:16:34
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yeah But yeah, just people out there. I mean, if you don't want to listen to what I have to say, it's my opinion on things. And like I said, The way social media, the way the internet is, there's plenty of access besides your public libraries and books.
01:16:53
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There's plenty of access on the internet to get educated on this stuff, on the animals, everything else. I mean, I love my reptiles to death and everything. I try to give them the best life I can.
01:17:08
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It's not for everybody. ah Animals aren't for everybody. It don't matter, dogs, cats, whatever. Some people are just pretty much pieces of shit. They just have it because they can say they have it and I see it all the time.
01:17:27
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They get the animals and bottle raise them, but after a few years, they are gone, and who knows after that. I grew up raising animals on a farm in the Ozarks, but not right. Dude, I've been on the farm life side too, buddy.
01:17:37
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I mean, I've bottle-fed calves. I've bottle-fed pigs, horses. I've done it all on the farm side with my friends and their families. I know what it's like to do that, but yeah, you're right. Once it's once they're gone, you don't know what happens no more, man.
01:17:54
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You don't know. You may think they're going to a good home or good situation. Maybe years down the road you find out that they actually ended up going to somebody that didn't give two shits about them.
01:18:07
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I mean, that's and then then that's out of our hands. But at the same time,
01:18:15
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i have been looking to and I'm going throw it out here.
Future Plans and Educational Focus
01:18:20
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House.
01:18:25
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oh Yes, cows, are they can be some of the dumbest animals on the farm, Apparently some people in India think they're fucking gods.
01:18:38
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Oh, yeah. But, no, hu I've actually been looking and doing my research. and I'm actually wanting open a reptile style store, but also I want to do an educational aspect. I've been doing research and stuff here the last couple years.
01:18:56
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And I've got the ball kind of rolling. The only situation is funding rate at the moment. It's a little tight. But I want to be able to educate people on stuff that they fear they don't understand.
01:19:08
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Give kids, try to bring new new blood into the hobby area. You can do that right here. You can educate us all. Yeah, but I mean, this is my platform right now to try to educate people like Blaze was saying.
01:19:22
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But I would like to be able to eventually one day before I see the dark side of the no more sun when I'm belly up. But I want to be able to educate and bring new blood, get the children involved, get kids involved into it where they understand things that – their parents may not explain to them.
01:19:44
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Maybe even educate the parents on stuff. I mean, I don't expect you to like jump right in and go by, i'll throw it out there again, like a Burmese python. and ah But just understand their nature, understand their livelihood, why we keep them.
01:20:01
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Just like people want to, certain people educate you on why they keep tigers or why they keep this, why they do that. I mean, It's just there.
01:20:13
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Just got to open your eyes, open your heart, and open your main thing is open your damn mind to learning shit, not just be stuck in one dimensional basically.
01:20:24
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Expand your horizon. And like I was saying earlier, it's really literally at your freaking fingertips to open your mind on everything there it is.
01:20:35
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It just takes that little bit of time.
01:20:39
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Learn some Google food. Yes.
01:20:45
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And this ah this is it this is awesome right here too. Just because I don't want to raise them doesn't mean I don't want to know. Right. You don't have to raise them. Just give get yourself some new education. Learn something different.
01:20:58
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and they on Sometimes I just want to know because if I'm walking down the street one day and I see somebody treating something that I think might be questionable, well,
01:21:11
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You can call their asses out on it. Exactly. Right. but i mean not' familiar with things You don't have to be a master on everything. no we Jack on trades on some.
01:21:24
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Jack, Jack, Jack, Jack. Yeah, um but I mean, that's just the thing. It's just it's just like I said, the main thing is is keep an open mind. That's all you got to do. And this world is, like I said, is so one dimensional, people only see tunnel vision.
01:21:41
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They only see what they're shown, what they've been taught, everything else. lot of people don't want to take that tunnel away. I mean, I'm still doing it. I mean, it we don't get an owner's manual too as prime example.
01:21:55
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We have kids. You don't get an owner's manual with that shit when you when you have a baby. You learn as you go and you got to try to do your best. Some people don't deserve that.
01:22:05
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But I'm to tell you what, it's always a learning curve. It does not matter. what it is. Kids, animals, life in general, you're always learning as long as you keep an open mind. So, I mean, that's the main, that's the main thing I ask.
01:22:22
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And to just do your research, do home, basically like go back school in a way, properly educate yourself. Just open your mind up and educate. And I'm not expecting you to be the next fricking Steve Irwin or anything like that.
01:22:39
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just so I hope you can under look stuff up and understand kind of what I'm throwing out there and trying to talk about. But other than that, I mean, i really don't have nothing else to talk about tonight. I think I got pretty much it out there.
01:22:53
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Blaise, thanks for being a surprise guest because caught you on the blind side tonight, man. Yeah, yeah. was I was sitting here trying that trying to church up your show, and I was sitting here in the bus. Did you bring me on up? Heck yeah, man.
01:23:09
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Well, I mean, that's and it's kind of nice. I'll be honest with you. feel like too with you coming up here recently the last few times when I've talked about certain things I feel you've learned something new too besides you teaching me new stuff you know what I mean we're kind of educating each other so because we got like ah one thing I can definitely say is we both got open minds man I mean we're willing to learn so I agree.
01:23:40
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Any conversation you walk away with with new knowledge is a great way to go. Thanks, XMS. I appreciate it, buddy. Hope to see you on the next one, man. Dude, Zanfius is usually there on Fridays, too. see him on Saturdays.
01:23:56
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Actually, I see him last Saturday. no week Yeah, yeah, Yeah, but yeah, I mean, it's just nice that I have somebody, you know, I mean, yeah, you you you openly admit I don't understand something, and then it's like, oh, I didn't know, and I know you've hit me up a couple times, you've looked up some stuff and been like, dude, that's crazy, some of the shit that you, you know, I've talked about, and you've actually looked it up, and it's like, yeah, it's kind of, it's interesting on certain things.
01:24:25
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Right? Oh, dude. Dude, nature, but like, nature itself i I'm, I'm, uh, I learned something new a lot about nature, like the world when it comes to ecology or, because I'm usually out, out in the wilderness. Right.
01:24:43
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My, my, my biggest, my biggest thing, my focus when I'm out on, on the trail is, a fungi, mushrooms. And, and, and I love mushrooms. I love finding them. I love identifying them, but, uh,
01:24:58
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Animals are always in the back of my mind because I love animals. And you'll run into them looking for those mushrooms. And i have to I have to learn to coexist. I have yeah to be safe. Yeah.
01:25:10
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Yeah. So knowledge like this is always helpful. All right, Blaze. Hey, you want to do something for me tonight? You want to give everybody a ah big old sneak peek of what's going to happen tomorrow night on Nonsense and Chill, my brother? Yeah.
01:25:29
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or You don't have nothing going you know have't nothing planned yet, you? I do have something planned. I do have something planned. i don't have a video or anything to show. Tomorrow is going to be I cheated a little bit.
01:25:45
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I'm doing another lights, camera, discussion show where I'm going to have a few topics of deep thought when it comes to movie and Hollywood and that genre. I do have a special co-host with me tomorrow. You guys should know him. I'll go ahead and tell you who he is. It's Michael Kogenaver.
01:26:07
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he was up last week. He's going to join me tonight or tomorrow night for some lights. camera and discussion. we all know, Jeff is on a hiatus, maybe not coming back.
01:26:19
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Still unsure. So we're doing the air. Yeah, we're doing what we can to bring you some um freshness. ah Michael enjoyed last week, so he wants to come back up.
01:26:34
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Hell yeah, man. That's awesome. He did great last week. he's He's a great guy. he is If you guys don't know Michael Copa Haver, He is a comedian out of Ohio. Guys, go check him out.
01:26:48
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You see his YouTube channel. ah He's done other stuff with other comic troops. Funny guy Smart Look him up. um Yeah, yeah. So that's tomorrow night.
01:27:02
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um i do have I do have an exclusive for tomorrow night.
Entertainment and Network Programming
01:27:06
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Oh, my God. Thank you. I just almost forgot. Blaze, Blaze, me, this guy right here is going to have the very first non-sysical network, non-sysical chill movie theory. theory I have a theory of my own when it comes to Hollywood movies that nobody has touched on.
01:27:27
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I think you guys will appreciate it. It is from one of my favorite fucking franchises, Batman, more specifically Joker. Come check me out. going to be my opening monologue and I think you'll enjoy it.
01:27:42
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I'll definitely be tuning in tomorrow night for that, man. Thank you again, guys. i think I have cracked Christopher Nolan's Joker's...
01:27:53
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oh um ah what's What's that? we're Where he comes from, his... is Origin?
01:28:04
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Origin story, yes. Nice. hey like Save it for tomorrow. I'm getting excited. I'm getting so excited. because During that movie, Heath Ledger like jokes around like all these different stories, but I think I think i have it pegged down. I think I have i think i have it.
01:28:30
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think I have it. You heard my dude Blaze here. Tune in tomorrow night, 8 o'clock tomorrow night? Yes. 8 o'clock tomorrow night for Nonsense and Chill. You guys tune in tomorrow night. Catch my boy Blaze with Michael on the show as a guest tomorrow night.
01:28:46
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You guys won't be disappointed. I promise you that. And like I said, once again, thank you, Blaze, and everything else, dude, for coming up tonight and stuff. And sharing your opinions and giving me a little more education on your side of things that you know.
01:29:01
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um Like I said at the beginning of the show, we're seven days a week. We're Sunday through Saturday. um Like I said, tomorrow night, we just said, nonsense and chill with Blaze.
01:29:15
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Come in, check it out and everything else. you Like I said, you guys won't be disappointed. And this Saturday, we have Cash's cornerback, where Daddy Glick and his son Cash talk a little bit of WWE wrestling.
01:29:28
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You guys tune into that on Saturdays. It's usually around 1 o'clock here on the network. If you like wrestling, I usually pop in because I'm a huge wrestling fan and shoot the shit with the boys. You guys check it out.
01:29:40
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Saturday night is where all the craziness comes in, and we all let it pretty much hang out and have a good time, and it's an open panel. Anybody? You want to jump in and if you can't handle our craziness, you better not step up to the plate then.
01:29:56
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It's nonsensical nonsense. It is the grandy and granddaddy of the channel and everything else. It's our main stable. Like I said, if you want to jump in on the panel with us and hang out with the craziness, Saturday night will be your night to show up.
01:30:12
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Sunday's Glick, Rick, and our famous every now and then other co-host Derek when he's not making music and everything else comes on the show and talks unnecessary roughness. It's an all sports show on Sundays.
01:30:28
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Monday night I'm your host for Speedway Stories. I talk everything motorsports. Um, I'm trying to work on getting another guest coming up and maybe I'm gonna get ahold of Benji and see what he's been up to and have him come on and fill me in on some, uh, formula racing, motor sports and other stuff for Monday night.
01:30:49
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Tuesday night is our, is our music night with Glick's house and music. Glick usually has some local artists from all over the country on there and everything else come in and,
01:31:01
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Listen to his guests and him and stuff and usually jam out like this past Tuesday. They had Blix Blazin' Chill listening to music and stuff and different things. Talking all kinds of music last Tuesday.
01:31:14
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but And then Wednesday night is what the fuck news. It's things in the news that make you go what the fuck and blows your mind, to be honest with you. Glick does that, and occasionally Blaze ah usually jumps in with him on that here lately since we're on the hiatus of Jeff right now. We don't know what's going on.
01:31:32
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So Blaze has been kind of filling in when he can with that situation. And we're back here Thursday night with my show, Cold-Blooded Conversations.
Conclusion and Sign Off
01:31:42
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That and I'm working on a guest for next Thursday again. he was, if I can get a hold of him, he was on here previously, and Mr. Steve Nelson of Area Reptiles. If he's paying attention, I'm going to try to get a hold of him.
01:31:55
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He just went to a big reptile breeders expo in Tinley Park in Illinois. going to try to have him come on here and give us give you folks what his experience was going to one of the biggest shows in the country.
01:32:09
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And that's everything for tonight, guys. Thank you for all tuning in. Man, you guys killed it in the chat tonight and everything else. I appreciate it. um
01:32:20
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I'm just trying to get Zanfius's. Oh, hell. I forgot about that. Zanfius is such a loving regular. like I like to give him his time. Heck yeah, buddy. um Yeah, I'll have to check that race out and everything else because I know we got one coming up at Atomic here soon too for the late model race coming up, I think, next weekend.
01:32:42
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It's a big, like, $25,000 to win race. Some of my former idols are going to be racing that I grew up turning wrenches on their cars and learned in their garage with their dads and their grandpas when we were younger kids.
01:32:56
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So... But yeah, thank you guys again for tuning in tonight. Like I said, everything was opinion and I looked most of my stuff up, trying to give you guys facts where you can understand on this show of the, like I said, the cold-blooded side.
01:33:10
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But also I like to talk animals, period. um It don't matter if it's cats, dogs, tigers, lions and bears, oh my. So thank you for tuning in tonight and everything else.
01:33:22
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Everybody have a good night. Hopefully you tune in tomorrow night for Nonsense and Chill. You guys take it easy. Bye.
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