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Nonsense and Chill - Lights, Camera, Discussion
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Tonight Blazin and Michael will discuss movie topics that intersect with other parts of society. Thanks for joining us! Please LIKE, SHARE and SUBSCRIBE
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Upcoming Movie Events & Collaborations
00:00:45
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Oh, and happy, happy, happy, happy Friday, Michael. How are you, my friend? If I was any better, I'd be you, handsome. Oh, dude, I'm so stoked. There's new word.
00:01:01
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there's a new word ah so Yes. All right. I'm just going to go ahead and get the news out of the way next week here. ah There's a movie. Michael and I are going to be watching live.
00:01:12
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you know We're going to be watching the whole movie live, um um but we're going to be watching it with the director and the writer. We're gonna be watching daylight to dark with um the writer is Roland Jewett. And if you're familiar with Roland, has been on Glitz House of Music before.
00:01:33
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He's a songwriter as well and singer, performer. Dude's just an entertainer all around. Awesome dude. He's going to be up here. And um also Jake.
00:01:44
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Jake Young, the director, is also going to be up here. He's going be watching with us. Glick's going to be joining us too. He's friends with Roland. He's be joining Mike. And we are going to be watching it from start to start to finish because we'll have the person with the rights on the show giving us permission to do it. So it's going to be a movie premiere.
00:02:04
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first time. I'm excited. So fucking excited. And you know what? I even have a banner for it. I didn't put the banner together um before I even got a chance to do it.
00:02:15
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Fucking Jake put it together threw it up on Facebook. So right there. Daylight the Dark. um It is a vampire movie. So if you haven't watched it, it is on Amazon Prime. Right now it's like 74 cents to rent if you're a Prime member.
00:02:31
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It's like A couple bucks if you're not. um It's Michael and I watched it the other night. Michael, what'd you think of it, man? Worth every penny. Loved it.
00:02:43
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Fun watch. A lot of fun to watch. Absolutely. I'm not here to correct you, but according to IMDB,
Comic Book Movies & Reboots
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Jake C. Young is also a co-writer. Oh, okay. Co-writer, Andrew. Okay.
00:02:55
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All right, cool. Yes, yes. um There might be one or two more cast crew coming in. It depends on ah timing and planning, but next week here, 8 o'clock, Roland Jewett and Jake S. Young.
00:03:12
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What is up, Glick? Hey, yes, just you go ahead. go ahead i was going to say, I hope that if it's any of the other cast members, I hope it's Renfield. Oh, hell yeah. I got a kick out of him, man. He was fun as hell.
00:03:28
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And by the way, if you guys want to see Michael and I's initial reaction and commentary of this movie, go check it out on Patreon. It is there. Dollar a month.
00:03:38
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We have content up on Patreon, guys. I've been putting some stuff up there. So, yeah. Worth it. Michael, how is how is your week been, man? man Well, so far it has had seven days in it.
00:03:55
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I hate when weeks have seven days. I prefer those weeks with with no days. It's just... I haven't really had any adventures, adventures, but it's been a good time. ah I'm staying above the dirt, calling it a win.
00:04:09
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Fair enough.
00:04:12
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Man, I just realized there's more excitement coming up next weekend, too. Ooh. Yeah. Ooh. Just like Glick just said, and a pinch ah potentially a couple actors from the movie.
00:04:26
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ah you've been Yes, Glick has been throwing this together, so I'm going to give credit to Glick where credit is due. um Thank you, my friend, for putting this together. I'm excited for it.
00:04:37
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Big shout out to the Glick. Yes, yes, yes. It ain't worth a shit when it comes to trivia, but he is the captain of this ship of fools. but Speaking of trivia, that is right.
00:04:51
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That is right the end of this month. Comic book movie it trivia. Excluding the DCU and the MCU. And I mean those in the franchise sense. Like no Disney MCU.
00:05:04
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And ah no other DCU. Or the MCU from Disney. And the DCUE or whatever it is. With Affleck, Batman. and You're not going to see those. You'll definitely other Marvel and Marvel.
Media Influence on Society's Intelligence
00:05:18
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marvel and and and DC just not those franchises so like the so ah the original X-Men series those those are yeah yeah so Fox Fox Sony ah old Warner Brothers but you guys we're talking comic book movies adaptations there's a lot of movies out there that people don't realize were adapted from car from comic books I will say this one of the trivia questions
00:05:49
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will be about the very first comic book movie, or comic book adapted to, to the silver screen. who
00:06:00
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Yeah. And like, I don't know if I already said this, but like Wally's pointed out, smash that share, hit that subscribe button, and jingle, jingle that bell.
00:06:12
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Also share us out to your homies if you care what we are doing. So with that being said, It is movie night. We should probably be discussing movies.
00:06:24
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Oh, ah there was one I'd forgotten about. It doesn't come out to August 1st, so I can save it for the August releases. Okay. All right.
00:06:36
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But I'm so excited to see this movie. well go ahead and go ahead and give us a little... The Naked Gun is coming back. I saw that. Liam Neeson plays Frank Drebin's son.
00:06:52
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And then his partner is his old partner's son. And if you haven't seen it yet, check out the trailer for the new ah for the new um Naked Gun. It looks so funny. When they get to ah Nordberg's picture on the wall, they're all the sons together.
00:07:06
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The Nordberg picture on the wall, the guy just looks like his... Is the trailer out for it? I didn't know the trailer was out.
00:07:15
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It's out and standing. I'm going to have to check. and Normally trailers don't do
Impact of Franchises on Creativity
00:07:21
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it for me. But this trailer is so perfect. It is totally naked gun.
00:07:26
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It's going to have the same silly feel. And Liam Neeson is going to pull this off. I know it. If he's playing his son, I could see that. If he was going to reprise the role. Liam but i
00:07:41
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Neeson has played a goofy comedy character before. So I know this is definitely in his wheelhouse. So I agree. Which one? Fill me in. I can't think of one. Off the top of my head, it doesn't come to <unk>s in my head either, but I know I've seen him in a comedy role.
00:08:05
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I'm doing a quick little look up. I'm a fan of Liam Neeson Man. That guy is awesome.
00:08:14
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this This is from Fandom Wire. seven Seven movies of comedy movies that he's in. How come they can never put these lists? Like, they have to write a whole article.
00:08:26
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ah Oh, here's one. A Million... This is the one i was thinking about a Million Ways to Die in the West. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's one of Marland is directing the new Naked Gun. Perfect.
00:08:38
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ah stephen that That even gives me even more hope. And i'm going to be honest with you. yeah I couldn't make it all the way through Million Ways to Die in the West. Fair enough. Fair enough.
00:08:49
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I love me so much, but i mean I don't know. it's No director is perfect. No director makes every single like home run crack they try for. but yeah that was a I just couldn't get through it. I can't think of what it was.
00:09:05
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Well, I think when it comes to a live action movie, that was one of Seth MacFarlane's first one, wasn't it? It was after Ted. ah Okay. All right. Fair enough.
00:09:16
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Fair enough. Now, ah did you ever watch ah The Orville by chance? No. It's like a Star Trek-esque comedy series where Seth MacFarlane plays the captain of the ship, The Orville.
00:09:31
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Oh, okay. Is that the one? Okay, I know what you're talking about. i'm familiar I loved it. thought it was great. I really enjoyed it. I haven't seen I have not seen it. and think I think it got canceled. I'm not sure, but I think it got canceled.
00:09:45
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I'm going to throw a random Actually, I like the one. i like this one. This one is the one. So, Michael and i have a couple questions. We're going to go over some topics for tonight. Of course, lights, camera, discussion. That is what we're here for.
00:09:59
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It's a movie banter. Speaking of which, ah did that pop up on the screen? Probably exactly what the entertainment industry in general is directly responsible for the scubification of the U.S. Oh, there it goes.
00:10:13
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I'm having... I'm having some issues here. gonna have to bounce out and come
Classic vs. Modern TV Shows
00:10:17
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back in. I'll do what I can to hold down the fort.
00:10:25
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and Another series, like a sci-fi comedy series I really, really liked, and sadly or there won't be another season of it, was, it's called Avenue Five. Gosh, I love that. It was on HBO.
00:10:37
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You can still see it on the Max app. if you're interested in that. Loved it. Hugh Laurie plays the captain. And let's see, Josh Gad's in it.
00:10:48
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Oh, the kid that played Gabe on The Office in the final seasons. he yeah He worked for the new owner for Sabre, or Sabre, as they were calling it.
00:11:04
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This was ah before Robert California.
00:11:08
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All right, there we go. All right. Sorry about that, guys. All right. who No worries. worries. I'm sure you've already read red the topic question.
00:11:22
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Yeah, that was just a thing that I've been thinking quite a bit. I feel that in general. yeah i never I can't hear hear you. Hello.
00:11:33
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Yeah. Did you already read the topic question? I sure did. Okay. I'm going to have. All right. Let's go to a break. I'm going to have restart. I don't know what what is going on, but my internet is crap right Whip those hamsters.
00:11:49
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ah Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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of you, cow!
00:12:13
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crowd trying to have fun now the biggest lights they won't lose their glow the fam will play on with the show you're gonna get your turn yeah you're gonna get your turn
00:12:43
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I was a dad I didn't see I had friends at your company I could snap my face I could flip a switch Make that last bullet burn You tired of a bitch?
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You're gonna get your turn Yeah, you're gonna get your turn
00:13:12
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John, you're going to give John turn. The devil is going to watch first.
00:13:43
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The evil ones, know you are. Think of you, don't you go too far. Just know this, let it give you a pause, or you melt your bombs.
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Won't trigger a sin of God, you're gonna get your turn.
00:14:03
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Yeah,
Hollywood Actor Contract Clauses
00:14:04
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you're gonna get your turn. Son, you're gonna get your turn. Yeah, we're gonna watch it.
00:14:55
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All right. That was Southern Outlaw Band. Watch you burn. Yes, I am back. I know. I'm still having. guys So, guys, you know me. World Kentucky spotty internet. Probably Kentucky's got one of the lowest education rates because we are slow.
00:15:13
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Um...
00:15:17
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Anyway, so back on topic. There's a new insult for people, right? You're slower than Kentucky internet. Yeah. Oh, that's a good one. I like that. This one, okay. ah right This one was, this is one that Michael posited.
00:15:32
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Affirmative, the Hollywood and entertainment industry in general is directly responsible for stupid the stupefaction of the U.S. My thoughts.
00:15:43
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um Not directly. Indirectly, yes. um There's that whole, what's that whole adage? ah and ah Art imitates life, does life and imitate art?
00:15:57
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i think I think we're a product of the media that we consume. and I think it's a...
00:16:08
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What's that word I'm looking for? God, I think I've used this analogy before, like a snake chasing its tail.
00:16:17
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That would be Glick, yes. Can you hear me? I sure can. Okay, all right. not sure what the word is. That would be Glick, the snake chasing its own tail. Anubis. Is it Anubis?
00:16:30
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No, not Anubis. I forgot that Egyptian symbol of the snake chasing its or eating its tail. But my point being is I think it's like an echo chamber. Echo chamber.
00:16:42
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um I think art reflects society. Society reflects art. and I think it's because society wants the dumb. It it consumes the dumb.
00:16:54
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Well, ah we consume dumb. ah ah In general, not me, myself. I vote with my dollar. That's why you'll never see me putting ah going to see and buying a ticket for anything Fast and Furious.
00:17:09
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Nope. I just cannot do it.
00:17:14
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I agree. um And that's going to That's another topic of discussion tonight. Franchises. But we will get there. We will definitely get there.
00:17:26
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When you say the stupefaction, you talking about like idiocracy? Oh, absolutely. Okay. We as a nation are so dumb.
00:17:38
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Do you think it's because of the of them of the ah the the media we ingest? Well, it's the media they have available to us in general.
00:17:49
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here's Here's one example. When I was raising my children, I don't have two children anymore, but I had two children. They're adults now. They're not dead. So that was God's. The clarification on that, I'm sure, is probably appreciated. I had to clear that right now. I firmly and staunchly opposed anything Disney Channel, period, in my house because of the way the shows were set up.
00:18:16
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yeah I understand it's it's geared toward children, but all the kids are the heroes of the shows. They're the smart ones in the shows, and they portray the parents as complete and total idiots. And I was not about to train my children to think, as their parents, my ex-wife and I were idiots.
00:18:34
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In one of our cases, it was true. Professional.
00:18:42
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I'm trying to think of what shows portray I'm not familiar with a lot of Zach and Cody. I never watched that one. Well, see, I didn't either. Exactly.
00:18:53
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I just know that through bits and bits, you know, seeing it at other people's places, they'd have it on or whatever, entertaining their children in all the wrong ways. So we could do adult things. It's just, ah you know, you pick up a little here and there and every single show on that network stars the children.
00:19:10
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They're the smart ones. They're the problem solvers. They're the ones you know in charge, basically. yeah I was not about to let my children think that that's how the world is going to work in our house. i Okay, um I didn't watch a lot of Disney. um i wasn't a you I didn't ban it because I'm not going ban shit in my house that people like to watch.
00:19:30
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My ex-wife was into it. Her family who was into it. I was into it one time when it was... when I was, when my kids were really young, but as they got older, I thought Disney over time kind of got a lot worse than what it already was.
00:19:47
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um In what ways?
00:19:53
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The cookie cutter. Like it used to not be so cookie cutter. Gotcha. But I see what you mean. Like when you brought that up, I was thinking of Nickelodeon with like shows like Jimmy Neutron And the fairy godparents, I think was one where... Fairly odd.
00:20:11
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Fairly odd parents, thank you. Yeah, like you're right. like there The kids were the that protagonists of the of of the series, and yet their parents were dumb.
00:20:22
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But I think that's i think that that that trope of a dumb parent, at least one dumb parent, isn't just really Yates to
Fascination with Time Travel in Movies
00:20:30
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Disney or even Nickelodeon. I think Fox does it. Look at Homer Simpson. Look at Peter Griffin.
00:20:36
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Look at like at old tropes where the father is usually the dumb one in the family. I mean, let's be honest. It goes all the way back to the honeymooners. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
00:20:47
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Yeah. So, of course, it was done it was done for satire. I don't think a lot of people picked up. i think that's one thing is ah satire is one of those one of those nuanced...
00:21:02
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but rhetorical tools that a lot of people don't understand. So a lot of things go over people's heads. And I think, I think because of that, um, entertainment has in a way, became a little bit more unintelligent because, because it's surface level, because the surface level is what people pick up on first. Those, those deep sapphire jokes, those, those, once you start peeling away that onion, people just don't just,
00:21:33
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don't peel away the onion anymore. I think over time that's because the way capitalism works and our, you know, it's all about, you know, putting ass in seats and making, making the money.
00:21:45
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It's like, well, we're going cookie cutter this shit. What do people watch? Exactly. Yeah. And I think that it's just, eight in a way it's sort of like a, I'm not saying the computer algorithm as in today, but before the algorithms that we talked about today on YouTube and whatnot,
00:22:03
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No, they had bean counters that put these, that put this shit together, research and development, like what puts S and C's, what kind of movies? Well, these are the type of movies and they kind of take those elements and they just, yeah, yeah.
00:22:17
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I think it's because entertainment- Getting to the next setting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The entertainment has gotten dumb, which in return has made us dumb, which makes our entertainment, it's just, again, this back and forth cycle.
00:22:34
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So yeah there used to be smart shows, smartly written shows. And I know you're not a continued watcher, but ah I will argue until my dying day. South Park, as silly as it is, as goofy as it is, as irreverent as it is, has some of the best smart social commentary in this country right now. um way Okay, I'm not familiar with modern South Park, but when it first came out, no, I agree.
00:23:00
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Absolutely. There's see the American Dad King of the Hill. That's yes, those those tropes were there too for the dumb dad. And I really want to hear the hill much, but I just happen to catch in passing ah one of my favorite lines. Well, probably the only favorite lines again, I can't recall about anything from the show, but that character Hank, the father, he says with son, Bobby, if you weren't my son, I'd hug you. but One line that always gets me is Bobby or it's six o'clock in the morning that boy already ain't right or some shit like that.
00:23:36
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But it's funny, you brought up the stupification of America, and we're talking about King of the Hill. My judge is one of those guys who really points that out with idiocracy, with King of the Hill, with his projects. Beavis and Budhead was brilliant.
00:23:57
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I think Trailer Park Boys is brilliantly written, too. if It's not like... Based on yours. What's that? I got to revisit that one based on you. Like I said, I tried to get into it once before, and i'm just I just, don't know if it's the fact that they're Canadians or what, but it's just ah the dialogue is so fast and so snappy.
00:24:15
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It just takes out of the field's manufactured. Like it doesn't seem natural cause it's so quick. like yeah Fair enough. Yeah. Your chemistry, especially in the beginning, was definitely rough.
00:24:28
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ah Grown-ups was another one. Wildly popular movie, tons of great comedians in it, but the lines were so fast on top of each other. It just, it seemed so not, did yeah I don't know if I'm explaining it correctly, but it just, it seemed unnatural the way that they talked to each other. So quick and so snappy.
00:24:49
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It's just. Yeah, no, I see what you mean. It's like one long sketch. Kinda. Okay. Well, that's the best way. The general conversations, you know what mean? Like, you and I aren't so fast. And we're not morons. I mean, yeah, basically. But smarter than the average bears anyway.
00:25:08
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Yeah. And it's not so fast and so snappy. There's just conversations don't work like that. Especially when you add three or four people to it. You know what I mean? Nobody is that witty that consistently.
00:25:21
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The writing just seems so unnaturally
00:25:26
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I see what you mean. The actors in a way they delivered so quickly on top of each other. That might have something to do with it, too. i just I couldn't get into it. I couldn't get behind it. It just felt so not normal. Fair enough. Fair enough.
00:25:37
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Just kind of takes you out of it. Fair enough.
Effectiveness of Movie Rating Systems
00:25:42
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i sorry The reason why I think it's Trailer Park Boys is smart writing, it gets in a mind of like like less than blue-collar workers.
00:25:55
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and those guys, those those those guys trying to hustle through life because, well, as, as adolescents, they were dealt a bad hand. So they're making what they can out of what they have.
00:26:07
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And it's funny. Very smart. They just prefer working with their hands. It's almost, yeah, it will. Yeah. It's almost like, to me, i compare them to like, they're, they're like a modern three students.
00:26:21
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So if, and three students themselves, weren't the most popular either they were they were i don't know I think they were awesome but
00:26:33
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I like them less ah like them less when I was a kid and I do now interesting yeah I grew I know you they weren't really my cup of tea growing up but as I became an adult like you know as I grow grew grew more appreciative of Got you.
00:26:53
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Like smart written shows like, ah for example, Frasier. It lasted a long time. Yeah. Now, when I say smart written shows, I don't want people sitting there and like, oh, they use big words. No, it's the subject matter.
00:27:10
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Subversion. How jokes are written in there, like subversion jokes, satire jokes. Like, yeah, they might be the sketch might be about this.
00:27:21
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But if you look in, if you really watch and you look what's going on on the out, um you know, adjacent to the scene, yeah know, there is a, there's another meaning there. And it's, I'm not saying every episode like that, but the overall storyline is there.
00:27:39
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Sure. Gotcha. you A quick trivia for you. Cheers. I loved Cheers when I was a kid. Loved it. Still do. um What character on Frasier got the most fan mail?
00:27:51
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This smartly written show. The father. no no, no. It was probably the dog. The dog? Eddie the dog? It was Eddie the dog. Fuck yeah. And it kills me that people are writing a dog fan mail.
00:28:05
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I'm not surprised that at all. What a waste of a stamp in your time, right?
00:28:11
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People bought used to buy pet rocks at the store, okay, so.
00:28:17
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The same people would buy the jump to conclusions, man. Bring it full circle back to Mike Judge.
00:28:25
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God, I like his commentary on shit, though. ah you and me So I want to follow... Fine piece of film. Well, then I want to follow that question up with this one right here. Are film franchises and sequels damaging the creativity of the industry?
00:28:39
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Now, if you want to unload on Fast and Furious... fucking go for it. yeah It's not just fast and furious. And honestly, I can't talk too much about it because again, I watched the first one.
00:28:50
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I watched the second one. Um, cause I gotta admit, I like fast cars. i like hot stuff. I like, you know, action. That's I dude. I'm not going to lie. I'm with you there. I like those elements in a movie.
00:29:04
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I'm not like I do, but go ahead. I'm sure you're going to say what I'm thinking. But at some point, there's gotta be something more than just the next action sequence, than the next action sequence.
00:29:16
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And then I cannot help myself. I love those memes. It's all about family. It's about family. i can't I can't understand the reference totally. I just know Vin Diesel says that dumb shit and he's a knucklehead. I mean, what?
00:29:30
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Maybe as a person who's fantastic, I don't know at all. And I did enjoy some of his comedy work. But at the bottom, at the end of the day, and just the bottom line is he's pretty much the same person over and over and over and over and over.
00:29:42
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It's like Pitch Black produced Vin Diesel as Vin Diesel. And that's all he can do, it seems, like a one-trick pony. And then there's like ah yeah sequels. Sequels annoy the hell out of me.
00:29:56
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They take a movie that was good and it made a good profit at the ah box office. And then they just, for the sake of money, make something so not good that it's ridiculous.
00:30:10
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Like I liked the first Transporter movie. It was a fun watch and that story, there was a whole thing. It was a whole piece, a whole collection, but then it was Transporter 2. And it was a war of attrition for me to get all the way through that dumb thing.
00:30:23
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So I wouldn't know because I stopped watching them. The fact that you didn't Wally makes me disappointed in you, sir. Shame, shame.
00:30:35
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Yes, I could not agree more with that comment, Glick. They are the most worthless films in a long time. A long time. I mean, they're like the action version of the Blair Witch Project.
00:30:47
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A whole bunch of nothing and it gets nowhere and then you leave the theater feeling unsatisfied. Saw, if I don't know, I'll give you that on Final Destination. I enjoyed the Saw movies myself.
00:30:58
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I mean, they got ridiculous at one point. Really ridiculous. It's already kind of a crazy premise to begin with, but at the bottom I thought they were enjoyable movies. They had the nice twist to them. ah The character saw ah with Jigsaw, the character, like the mastermind or whatever, was well portrayed by John. Escaping me right now. The character's name was John. to believe his name is John.
00:31:21
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Great actor. Horrible with memory names. but so bad it So bad. I used to be much better at it than i am now. As you age, you lose some stuff. I also blame the weed, but yeah, sure. Age. Yes. Age. Aging. Yes. Let's go with that one.
00:31:39
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I don't know if i answered your question. Oh, from and are they okay? It just seems like film has such a boring, boring, boring,
00:31:53
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Same old formula, same old formula, same old formula, same old formula. When a movie comes along that sets that formula on its side or turns it completely upside down, like Quentin Tarantino, what a breath of fresh air Pulp Fiction was.
00:32:06
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Oh, yes. I didn't see that. Loved it. Or just just about all his movies. Just about all his movies. Absolutely love. Oh, shit. The one with a Mr. Blonde, Mr. Black.
00:32:19
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Or I'm sorry, Mr. Blonde, Mr. Pink. um The Reservoir Dogs. Reservoir Dogs. Outstanding film. Excellent acting. ah Dialogue driven. Not a lot of like... There was some action, sure, but at the end of the day, it was just about character building and in that entire setup.
00:32:36
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Yeah. The flashbacks of the cop learning how to be an undercover and everything, telling the story. know The more details you add, the better it gets. And the way he just modified that story to become this new person who has this in their mind.
00:32:50
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You know history. I thought it was all very, very well executed, excellently acted, great cast. Even Chris Penn couldn't screw that one up.
00:33:03
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ah Wally, so with this, I'm on the fence.
00:33:11
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Some movies have great sequels. A lot of movies have sequels that should have never been made or they wait too long to be made. Or...
00:33:22
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they go for a trilogy and by the time the third one hits like it's it's it's run it's run its course like right like right now the new batman with robert with robert pattinson the the the sequel's taken so long to come out that now i'm just like i don't care about it like i'm over it like the hype it's like i was excited when i when i watched i was like this dude shocked me as a good batman was like i want to see a sequel Now I'm like, well, this shit's taking too long. and i know
00:33:56
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I know there's a lot of things that has gotten in the way of the way a production of that sequel. I get that. I do. um But then there's franchises that, again, run their course after the after the second or third one.
00:34:13
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Fast and the Furious being one of them. The Saw,
00:34:19
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yes and no. I've seen them all. but I can probably survive with only ever seeing the first one. Oh, sure. The first one was always the best one. Yeah. But the second one was, in my opinion, just as good.
00:34:33
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It just started kind of getting the depth of all the different intertwining characters just kind of got really convoluted. So, okay. And, in the, okay. And this kind of goes with Saul too.
00:34:46
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ah The purge movie was one of them. Like, The premise is great. The start the first couple are awesome. Keep the story going. And then, okay And then it becomes a gore fest.
00:34:58
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And I'm not against gore fest either if it's done right, like Terrifier or a lot of the other slasher flicks. But it became, it went from mysterious and made you think to, oh, it's like, can we, can we out trap the last movie's traps?
00:35:18
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That became the goal. yeah Sort of like like Fast and the Furious. Like, can we out Fast Furious, the last one? You know, it's like, yeah it becomes a point where it just becomes redundant repetitive.
00:35:33
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Faster, Furious, or... And then there's movies from the my past that I loved that only made one, that I would have loved to see more made, that I would like to see a remake.
00:35:47
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into which ah trilogy and my batteries just died. but So we swap this out. Like yeah for instance, ah the flash flash Gordon.
00:35:59
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I absolutely loved, I absolutely love that movie and I always wanted to see more and I would love to see, i know they, I know sci-fi try to do a try to do a, a television show, which I thought would have been cool.
00:36:17
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just bad delivery but I think if they if now with see that's another thing there's all this wasted time redoing Marvel movies like for decades like you're ignoring so much other good shit you could be remaking like the Flash Gordon movies that would be a great trilogy a great sci-fi trilogy nowadays but how are you gonna beat Sam Jones man he is Flash
00:36:50
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I can't think of anyone off the top of my head. Not in that part. The one who plays a Magic Mike. He's got an excellent... Oh, Tatum Channing. Channing Tatum.
00:37:07
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jane taylor Yes, yes, yes. Do it? Yeah, 100%. Yeah, 100%. But I swear to God, if they use rock, I will fucking punch the director in the face. But yeah. chase Chase him, ta chase chase him tay whatever the fuck his name is Yeah, it's him.
00:37:22
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He would be great at that. 100%. I like that idea. yeah and it's If it's got a little camp in it, he can pull that off. He's ah a lot more talented than I originally thought. If you don't know i'm talking about, check out The Lost City.
00:37:36
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He is way good at comedy. Way Is that the one with Sandra Bullock? Yes, it is. I have been ignoring that movie because it's a rom-com. I'm not a huge rom-com person.
00:37:49
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Just to see it be Channing Tatum in that particular movie. Yes, yes. He loves that role. ah Wally, that's his life goal to be that character. And he was lobbying like a mofo when they brought in Taylor Kitsch in the ah Fox X-Men universe.
00:38:08
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He wanted that role so bad. And then he finally got it in Wolverine versus Deadpool and Wolverine. I think it's called Deadpool and Wolverine. if if they do If they do an actual Gambit movie, they need to rework that costume.
00:38:26
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Gambit. So many people love the character. no i didn't like i didn't like the costume in the Channing Tatum. That's how you pronounce it josh i didn't like it, I didn't like this costume in the comic books. I liked him.
00:38:38
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liked his character. I liked his style, his attitude, his power. but I always hated the purple fucking half-mask thing. It just made no sense to me. None at all. It was like, that's just dumb.
00:38:54
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Plus, the trench coat was an addition, too, for him, I believe. But Cyclops did it first. yeah Yeah. Well, I think trench coats were big in the 90s. Thank you, Columbia. Or, Columbine.
00:39:07
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but Columbia, what? Yeah.
00:39:12
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Cartoon version was the best. Cartoon version of what? Of Gambit? If you're talking about X-Men 97. Sure. sure That was an excellent series.
00:39:25
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i see I have not watched the newer ones because it's all Disney. I'm just so upset that Disney's fucking buying everything. They own Fox. they own they They don't own Warner Brothers yet.
00:39:38
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i don't believe so. ESPN. yeah ESPN. Alright, so if Disney ever buys Warner Brothers and there's not a Punisher Batman crossover, i give up. I give up.
00:39:50
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That merger was a failure. I don't know why there isn't a Batman. So here's the thing, Hollywood. You want to keep the Batman shit rolling, but you want you want some so fresh fucking shit, but you want to reboot another franchise?
00:40:07
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Great fucking storyline. Batman vs. Predator. Get on it, Warner Brothers. That'd be cool. That'd be very cool. And my comment about your Robert Pattinson Batman movie, in my opinion, the Joker, I'm sorry, the Riddler stole the movie.
00:40:26
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A lot of people had a heartburn with that Riddler. I liked that. thought it was a modern Outstanding. Yeah. I thought it was a modern take. It fit in with, well, contemporary times. I liked When characters are updated like that, I'm okay with that. I dig Yeah.
00:40:49
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And it was a dark and a gritty film. Season two, hasn't that been out long enough to have like three or four seasons already? There's the original X-Men run in 97.
00:41:01
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They brought it back on the Disney Plus channel. Yeah, that's what he's talking about. Yeah, I thought they have already done like two or three seasons. My first season just came out over the just past summer, maybe fall, I think.
00:41:15
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Really? Yeah. I thought it was older than that. There's a new animated Spider-Man, and I really, really like it.
00:41:28
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Disney, Disney, I hate you and i love you. That I completely. Yeah. I love fucking Spider-Man. Always love Spider-Man.
00:41:39
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So franchises, talk to me about Predator. Like Predator's got a bunch in a series. Do you think they've jumped the shark or are they still entertaining to you? I, okay, I think the first one was good. i liked the one with Danny Glover.
00:41:56
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um
00:42:01
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The first versus, not the first, yeah, the first versus, when they were up in like Antarctica or whatever, it was eh. ah The second Versus was better.
00:42:13
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Prey was dope as fuck. Yeah, loved it. i I like Adrian Brody. So when he was he did that one Predator one, I thought it was pretty dope. I like the Predator franchise. i think okay so i'm not I'm not against a franchise going over and over and keep going, especially when it's something that is expandable.
00:42:35
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That's why Star Trek has lasted for so long, because it's expandable. I think Predator is one of those expandable franchises. and One thing that disappointed me with Star Trek, since you mentioned it, ah the reboot that Abrams did.
00:42:49
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I'm a fan of Abrams. I don't love everything he's done, but i'm still I like the way he directs movies. and Only he could have done that with Star Trek, I think. He dropped the ball completely with Star Wars.
00:43:01
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should have stuck with star trek and left it at that but the way they rebooted it and set it up to where it's a completely different new timeline now so they can tell all new different stories and not have to worry about the source material as much they can he can he built a universe a play like a playground a play a sandbox universe where he can do it yeah yeah really really liked and it was done i thought really well that's saying that's same thing they've done with mcu that's going to be driving with the dcu that's I don't know if i'm I'm a big fan of the whole sandbox movie thing.
00:43:34
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I don't know, but at the same time, like I get it because I just got done saying I'd like to see Predator movies made until I die. Or after it. Keep making it. As long as the story's good, i just think as long as it's it's good.
00:43:49
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i think my biggest thing against franchises and sequels is that it eliminates, it it It's one of the reasons why we don't have so many risky movies.
00:44:04
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You know. but Have any what? Risky movies or risky production. Like movie or, you know, more risk taking in Hollywood. Right. Instead of like, you know, ah going straight for the the cash cow.
00:44:20
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You know.
00:44:24
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I don't mind a big budget movie if it's good. Yeah. Like, um I will generally go see all the Marvel movies. Sorry. I was raised on Marvel Comics.
00:44:35
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That's my jam. I've got one tattoo and one tattoo only. It's the shield of Captain America. I love comic books. Even as an adult, I still do. A new prey is coming. Oh, no kidding.
00:44:49
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Now, that actress that was in that, I like her a lot. What do you think of Doom?
00:44:57
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Dune. Dune. I didn't see the second one. I liked the first one. Okay. What about the original? Loved it. I liked the three hour expanded like ah just Dino DeLorentis cut.
00:45:11
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think that was Dino DeLorentis. Okay. Yeah. i Was that the one that was on TV or the one that came in the theaters? The TV one's the new one. i'm talking You were talking original. I'm sure that I'm...
00:45:25
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I'm almost positive Dino De Laurentiis directed those. Okay. But if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Because I think there's been three film adaptations.
00:45:40
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I think. Or I'm misremembering.
00:45:45
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I loved the original just because it was, so I never read the book. So if you read the book, I mean, you've got a reference I don't have. I just thought that for a sweeping fantasy, like a sci-fi fantasy epic, it was outstanding.
00:46:00
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And just, um I don't know, Kyle MacLachlan, maybe I wouldn't have cast him based on other people that were around in that era, but he nailed it. He nailed it. And then the dude who plays his dad, I believe his name's Juergen Prashnow, the original Duke, Lido Atreides, his father.
00:46:19
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And just the Fremen and everything, it was just so... so interesting and new and different and cool like muadib your your name is a killing word i mean that was just so neat the weirding way and all that it was just different fantasy sci-fi different it was awesome and then i believe it was toto did the music for that one i don't remember i believe it was toto just like queen did uh flash gordon it was like that i don't know it just added some kind of different element to it too having like yeah that twangy guitar rock out kind of thing in the background it was a fun one it's great story i know what you're talking about it's like that uh oh no flash gordon would be the great good good analogy i'm trying to think what kind of fucking music was that called it wasn't called it was it was it just rock and roll
00:47:16
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Prog rock, maybe. well
00:47:22
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Neat. I call it cool. And I liked it. And it added an element to the soundtrack, like to the whole feel of the picture. It wasn't like that typical shit. Like, yeah wrong. I love me some John Williams.
00:47:33
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Some of the most iconic themes ever in film. John Williams.
00:47:41
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God, I need to sit down and watch Flashboard. Such a great movie. what is What do we got here, Wally? Leading to Trackenberg directing two more Predator films, Predator Killer of Killers and Predator Badlands, both set for this film 25.
00:47:59
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There's Predator 5, I believe it's called Predator 5. Schwarzenegger's coming back to reprise his role as Dutch.
00:48:09
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I think they've they've been like, ah and from the tree from the preview I saw, unless it was a fake trailer, but I'm pretty sure was legit. It looked like they'd been like back engineering some of the alien technology, predator technology.
00:48:21
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And it's like a ah they're coming here to exterminate us was one of the lines he says. And it just seems like it's going to be a war, man versus predator for survival. Here on earth.
00:48:32
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If I remember right, predator was adapted from comic books as well. That I'm not sure about. I do know after the movies, there was a long line of ah Predator series. I believe it was Dark Horse Comics ran the Predator.
00:48:47
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And I think, no, I don't think it, I'm 100% sure. Predator versus Alien started in in comics with Dark Horse.
00:48:58
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And those movies are fun to watch, man. Fun to watch.
00:49:05
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Oh, Predator also known as Alien vs. Predator abbreviated comic book series published by Dark Horse Comics from 89, 2020. Oh, okay. Okay, wasn't adapted from a comic.
00:49:16
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comic book came out
00:49:20
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after. Yeah, I thought so. cool. it wasn't and okay so it wasn't adapted from a comic comic book came out after
00:49:30
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yeah i thought so okay cool Errata. That's why we're here, man. Keep each other honest.
00:49:40
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The most recent installment in the The Predator was really good. I liked it a lot. ah Tom Jane was in it. Thomas Jane. The best Punisher. yeah and he He plays a military criminal with Tourette's. and It is hilarious.
00:50:00
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just It's a totally different Wait a minute. I said, yeah, that's Thomas Jane. Wait a minute.
00:50:10
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Well, Thomas Jane looks a lot like the other guy up from Thank You for Smoking. He played the newest um in in the Christopher Nolan Dark Knight universe.
00:50:21
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He played a Harvey Dent. What's his name? Oh, Aaron Eckhart. I'm 90% sure it was Thomas Jane, not Aaron Eckhart, but those two sometimes I get them confused.
00:50:32
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But either the way, he was great in that. And the dude who stars in Narcos, ah the series, the blonde guy, he's in it. And he was really a good.
00:50:43
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He was like the lead, and he was really good. It was Aaron Eckhart in Batman. Oh, Batman, yeah, that's for sure. But I don't know what the the newest Predator movie was called. I can't recall.
00:51:00
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But it was good. It was good. He was like a ah ah military operative going in to do like he was going after i don't remember if it was a terrorist or like a drug organization something like that but he was in like the jungles of South ah south America Central America it was good man I liked it a lot I have to look at but yeah the ah a group of military criminals on a bus end up getting uh escaping and he's one of them and he was being thrown into a hole and forgotten because he knew too much about the alien stuff and he's got an autistic kid and he was a big part of it it was an interesting story and it was a neat predator movie i liked it a lot that's all i'm saying i liked it a lot i don't remember that one well it's recent and it's crazy fun it's a good one and i i'll look it up for you i'll get you a title
00:51:54
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Before you do that or while you do that i'm go ahead and run off the weekly lineup. But I do want to remind everybody in this month comic book trivia.
00:52:07
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movie trivia yay. i'm excited for that, as you can tell you guys know my excitement level is always up here even though it looks like it's down.
00:52:21
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But. I do want to point out that bio links, you can hit that up and find all our other links to beauty in the beard, uh, creative corner and get shirts made by Nikki and all that good stuff.
00:52:37
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Check out what she has and hit her up. Tell her to send me pictures so I can actually make some promo ads. Nikki click,
00:52:47
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but Mondays we have see, Wally keeps flipping it up on me. I don't know if it's Cold Blood Killers or Speedway Stories, but I'm pretty sure it's Speedway Stories on Mondays.
00:52:59
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And Tuesdays, we got Glick's House of Music. from what he's telling me, he's booked all the way for like a month straight. So we got some awesome people coming up, some talent, some people we haven't seen before on Glick's House of Music. So I'm excited to see that.
00:53:14
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Of course, Wednesday, we have What the Fuck News. Glick is riding solo. with some assistance from his soon-to-be wife, Nikki.
00:53:27
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I'll be up there sometimes, but mostly it's going to be a solo thing for right now. but Thursday nights, we have cold-blooded conversations with Wally again.
00:53:38
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i when Wednesdays, I'm going backwards now. Fridays, you're here with Michael and I for Nonsense and Chill. We've got some movie talk going on. Next week, we will have Roland Jewett and ah Jake C. Young, ah writers and director for Daylight to Dark.
00:53:58
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Come check it out. We're going watch the movie, comment, review, and chat about it. Then Saturdays, of course, in the mornings or in the early in the day, every other Saturday, is Cash's Corner Wrestling Talk with Glick and his son Cash.
00:54:12
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Good times, wholesome for wrestling. Wholesome wrestling time. a dig it. and no Go ahead. Can we piggyback on the wrestling talk?
00:54:24
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Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. go ahead. Is there something special we're going to pull out for the game? Tell them. but Next Saturday, a week from tomorrow, we're going to be live casting and doing like a ah wre WrestleMania watch party.
00:54:39
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So if you want to hear comments on the WrestleMania, I'll be there in-house with my man Blaze. other way on my screen. I'm pointing right at you.
00:54:53
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Oh, my man, Blaze, where he is. Yes. King of the castle, the captain the trip of fools himself, the Glick. We're all three going to be on location together.
00:55:06
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So if you want to see some sparks fly, who knows, maybe we can drag Wally's ass down there to get the four horsemen together.
00:55:15
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He's a lot closer than either of us. And if we're making the trip, Challenge, Wally. Challenge. Challenge. Challenge. And then, of course, Saturday nights is the Open Door Challenge. But next Saturday is going to be Open Door Challenge. It'll be nonsensical. Plus, the WrestleMania Watchmen.
00:55:34
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Yeah. It's going to be a fun time next Saturday. so And, of course, Sundays. Sundays, we we yeah we wind the week down with unnecessary roughness. It's sports talk with Glick, Rick.
00:55:47
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And Derek, so if you're into sports balls, go tickle their there's sacks and let them know you're there. ah
00:55:58
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And i have I have a solo project on it on the way, but but enough of that. I do want to share something real quick. It's not in the private chat anymore.
00:56:09
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That's right, because I had to restart my computer. Oh, shoot.
00:56:15
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I don't have a copy. Michael and I have started solo ven not a joint venture outside of the network called Chronic. It is a joint. It's definitely a joint venture. It's called Chronic Contemplations.
00:56:30
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Chronic Contemplations. It's its own channel. Go check it out. I had the link saved. I restarted my fucking laptop and I don't have it to taste real quick. but I'll have it for later this night.
00:56:42
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We're going to hit a break. and We'll be back after some know what you're the mood for. how about Where Gator? I love that song.
00:56:54
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There we go. Where Gator by Callie and the Boone Rally.
00:57:27
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I'm going slow I'm going slow
00:58:11
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And you're still soaring in from the old boat with trees Looking like Spanish moths in the good old southern breeze
00:59:22
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Don't mess with voodoo Don't be lurking round and by You'll find yourself in some place that you don't want to But honey, I told you, honey, told you
01:00:00
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Cause old death's dawning You'll find yourself swaying From the old growth trees Looking like Spanish knots In the good old southern breeze
01:00:32
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Oh, you're nothing but scum and your clan ain't woke up wild Six and six, oh, you're gonna be done They put up fight, you raised the trump of your life
01:01:10
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Man, I've been in such a movie kick this week. um And Callie in the boot rally has definitely been on my been on deck rotation this week, too.
01:01:25
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I'm a Spotify nerd. I hate Spotify, but it puts all that music at my fingertips.
01:01:34
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Oh, and that last installment was called The Predator. Oh, ah we'll have to. Also got Keegan-Michael Key in it.
01:01:47
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Maybe I haven't watched it yet. When did it come out? 24, I think. That's why I haven't. but just Yep, I'm behind on it.
01:01:58
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I'm definitely 100% behind on it. Well, fuck no. Bad news for you. If you want to watch it, I'm pretty sure you got to see it on Disney+. plus
01:02:09
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i think they own I think they own whatever Predator comes out on. Well, I do know ways to watch it for free. Nice. Hey, we live in a digital age where you don't own anything. So if you don't own anything, you can't pirate.
01:02:30
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And I'm mistaken. it's that's It's not only on that. You can get it on Hulu with a subscription. ah Amazon's got it. YouTube TV's got it. Thanks, Click.
01:02:41
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I'm good. but oh I got BitTorrent sites. I'm good. I'm good.
01:02:50
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So The Predator. Fun watch. wasn't he happy do I really liked it. It was fun. I'll have to check it out. I want to thank Glick for throwing the Chronic Contemplations link in the comment section.
01:03:04
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I got back from the restroom, found it where I had saved it, and I was about to put it in the comments, and I noticed Glick had done it. So thanks for looking out. No shame in my game. I dropped it, too.
01:03:15
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Check it out. It's a lot of fun. I'm okay at best. I keep telling you that. That's the first episode. The second episode is already recorded and will be up. Next topic.
01:03:29
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Are film ratings health el elpha helpful or misleading?
01:03:36
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Misleading. Yes. How dumb do you have to be to not understand the rating system? I don't know. I'm not suggesting you're dumb. I'm just saying, well, it is America.
01:03:51
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America, we just come with warning labels. Old PG different than new PG. Because old PG, before PG-13, there was some some kind of some questionable stuff here and there in a PG flick.
01:04:05
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So I think there might be some confusion there because what was considered RPG or PG-13 like two decades ago or even three decades ago is completely a lot more conservative than what it would be today.
01:04:23
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So there's that fact. like pg three Like PG back in the day, you you wouldn't hear the word ass. Sure you would. You'd see an ass in a PG movie back in the day. PG-13 wasn't.
01:04:35
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Before PG-13, it was just PG. And yeah, you'd see some. I mean, not full throttle, nothing like that. Yeah, it'd be PG. If you just used something at his rear end or whatever for a minute. Really? They would swear, but not extremely so. Like, there's no F-bombs or anything.
01:04:50
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But ass and the son of a bitch. and I'm talking like eighty s Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
01:04:59
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No, they were PG?
01:05:03
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and Well, in the 80s, I think PG-13 was a thing. Yeah. 70s PG. I don't know. maybe yeah Maybe the question tripped us up. Because I know there's like, ah like I know a lot of people back in the day, or when they when people would hear the idea of an X-rated movie, they would think porno.
01:05:29
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And that wasn't, that isn't the case. An exploit an exploitative movie isn't a porno movie.
01:05:38
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That was, that was, ah that's one thing. I know they've updated with the um mature rating, 17, or NC-17, or is that video games?
01:05:49
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I don't know. It's all, it's all confusing at this point. I think, uh,
01:06:01
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Michael's getting the answer right now. right, now, here's one. PG, 16 Candles. Every movie after this that John Hughes made was PG-13.
01:06:14
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This was PG, and there is a nude scene in it. Close-up of Caroline's breasts. Really? Oh, wow. Then I think in some ways, it's got then that's changing, because that wouldn't be PG nowadays.
01:06:30
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Splash. PG. When Daryl Hannah first comes out of the sea, breasts.
01:06:37
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Nuh-uh.
01:06:40
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Well, I've... They use the hair often to do that. But her naked top is seen. Huh. Huh. Well... ah The Beastmaster.
01:06:54
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From the 1982 Beastmaster. pg um You think maybe there's... After 84, these movies were PG-13s.
01:07:05
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But this one was a PG. Wow. Shows you how much I didn't pay attention to the to to movie ratings while I grew up. Well, now we know. It was 1984, apparently, when PG-13 was a thing.
01:07:18
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Okay. All right. There's a little bit of movie trivia for you. Sheena. The Warrior Princess. Sheena. Sheena. great flick, Tonya Roberts. I remember that one from back in the day.
01:07:31
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So there's just a few. It happened. All right.
01:07:38
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Then PG-13 came along and asked when they made that delineation.
01:07:46
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Huh. All right. So misleading? Depends on if it's before after 1984.
01:07:57
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depends on your memory i suppose but i i personally would say no there's nothing misleading about the the movie ratings okay all right that's my short answer uh i'm sure you i'm sure you've got thoughts oh i you know i ah thought about it
01:08:18
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is it helpful it's it's it's it's helpful i think it's uh
01:08:26
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gives a gives you an idea what to expect and what not to expect when sitting down for a movie or if you're planning a movie night with your family. or i think ratings are helpful in that way. um i think in some ways it's one of those labeling systems that I guess we've made necessary.
01:08:46
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Well, being an informed consumer helps also. oh yeah. that's No, I agree. agree. As an adult, ah with adult children, I don't really have to worry about anything.
01:08:58
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We see something we think that looks a little bit entertaining for us, we go watch it together. But as children, true as they were children at some point, you know at one point, yes, I was making sure it was going be something that's okay to take the kids to see.
01:09:12
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But ah we didn't do a lot of going out to the movies. We had streaming services and everything else. I mean, by the time my children came along, that stuff was just starting to happen. And there's plenty ah plenty of children's channels on cable, things like that.
01:09:24
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And at some point, you don't take a kid to the movies until they're old enough to go to the movies. People that take super young kids into movies, that really pisses me off. ah yeah if yourre If your child is prone to crying in public, don't take them to the movie theaters, please. Shake it like a British au um because i I will make it my duty to dump popcorn on you. Either make it or get it out of here.
01:09:57
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Don't take your whiny kids. like Take your whiny kids to Walmart. They have a kids section for that. would you got leave Would you ever leave your children at a Walmart like Kids Corral?
01:10:12
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If so, if so, I really hope that's just an undercover like protective services situation. Like, okay, they left their kids at a Walmart. No, they're done.
01:10:24
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Take them out the back and put them with some good parents. I don't want to go watch John Wick and I hear some baby crying in the theater. but Okay, there you go. Oh, so that was the last topic. Never mind.
01:10:36
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ah forgot about John What's that? John Wick's Totally Mindless Entertainment. They're insanely unrealistic. But they're fun to watch. They're amazing to watch. They're fun to watch. Yeah, because i because the choreography is amazing to watch.
01:10:53
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But the entire premise behind is ridiculous. I mean, I like the international the idea of the International is cool and all. In fact, they had a ah series called The International that's like the backstory of the dude who, I can't think of his actor's name, but the older fellow that runs the International and resigns. Interesting.
01:11:11
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Ian McKnight? Is that the guy who played him? Is that his name, Ian McKnight? You're close. It's mixed something. But it's not McKnight, I don't think. Ian McBride?
01:11:25
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Ian Mick awesome old dude that plays awesome parts as an old dude. He's just like this old dude that plays awesome parts. i don't know. is a badass character actor. in the later installments, the great Clancy Brown makes appearances.
01:11:44
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He's an Ohioan I love. All right. The voice of Mr. Krabs. The Kurgan himself. No shit. Like from Spongebob.
01:11:56
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He is the voice of Mr. Krabs. The Kurgan.
01:12:04
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Wild, right? It is. Holy shit. He's a multi-talented actor. Cool. Well, fuck.
01:12:15
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You know what? I know what we can do I almost forgot about this. Are you familiar with i I remembered movie lingo tonight. Movie lingo. Yes. Yes. Movie lingo is not something that I don't think you're too familiar with.
01:12:31
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I just like to educate a little bit. You know, this is this one. This is ah a Klee light is an intense carbon art lamp, especially used for filmmaking. It's named after inventor John Klee and his brother, Anton.
01:12:46
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Now, these are some examples. I'm sure you guys probably seen these and the most interesting, Important example that is the lamp used for the bat signal.
01:12:58
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Come on. Neat. He's like, um money yeah we were watching the movie. that nerd Hold out the Wilhelm scream on that one. That's a nerd fucking thing right there.
01:13:11
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There's some Disney Star Wars trivia involved in that too. I believe it was Rogue One, I think. Rogue One. The first Star Wars movie in the entire series that left out the Wilhelm scream.
01:13:24
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It was in every single Star Wars up to that point. The Wilhelm scream? What's that? that but It's a sound effect.
01:13:38
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What's it sound like? What's the effect? what's You'd have to look it up. I mean, I can't recreate it, but it's a... Well, true. It's a scream used on scene, usually in especially gruesome death.
01:13:49
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And it's the same one over and over and over again. It's called the Wilhelm scream because I believe the dude who recorded its name is Wilhelm something or other. And it's in so many movies. So many movies.
01:14:00
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Okay, I got you. It's the sound effect of somebody dying or getting... yeah Screaming. It's the Wilhelm scream. Interesting. Yep, that's it. I did not know that.
01:14:13
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That is so hilarious. Education all around, guys. Education all around. I know some movie lingo. ah Tonight we're talking about random not random discussions.
01:14:30
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There's topics, but they unfold.
01:14:35
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They unfold.
01:14:38
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what was What was there? It was one more. Not that one. This one. Okay, this one I was a little curious about. I wanted to i wanted wanted to ask you something to specify.
01:14:51
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So what's your take on Hollywood contracts and the absurdity of some of the small print writers of actors? When you say small print writers, you're talking about like... I'll give you an example.
01:15:07
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Yeah, please do. Please do. For instance, when Arnie and Stallone were battling out in the 80s for action star supremacy, they would up each time in their contracts how many people they have to kill on screen.
01:15:20
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Schwarzenegger wanted to kill more people than Rambo. Rambo wanted to kill more people than Schwarzenegger. I shit you not. The Rock. Your favorite actor, The Rock.
01:15:31
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Johnson, Dwayne Johnson. His little small print writer is his character is never, ever, ever allowed to lose a fight in any movie.
01:15:44
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Doesn't matter what character it is. And this yo-yo wanted to make a Black Adam versus Superman. So was according to his contract, Black Adam's going to beat Superman. Yeah. Yeah.
01:15:56
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But Superman's the hero. Black Adam's an anti-hero. He's not a good guy. You're not going to get that. I mean, come on, Rock. Get your head out of your ass. His character on screen is never allowed to lose a fight. That's one of it one of his ah movie deals, deals. Okay, as for the ones with Stallone and Schwarzenegger, I find that entertaining and fun.
01:16:22
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It's dumb. It's ego. It is it it is dumb. it is your app It's petty. It's dumb. It's machismo. It is petty. Very, very petty. But i can see within the industry, it's some friendly competition between each other.
01:16:36
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I can kind of see it from that perspective. When it comes to The Rock, oh, yeah i'm not allowed I don't want anybody to cast me as a villain. i Now that is dumb, petty, and just... It's not that can't be cast as a villain, because Black Adam is a villain.
01:16:54
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yeah and If you watch the film, I liked it. It was a fun watch. yeah But I don't hate The Rock either. I think that he's shown some versatility as far as I'm concerned. I'm not super-duper impressed, but he's got chops. He does he can play a character.
01:17:08
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He's not just rake of an eyebrow and an attitude. Yeah. ah But he's, yeah, he's villainous in the film. It's not that he can't be a villain. He cannot lose. His character cannot lose fight. He can't, okay. He can't lose a fight.
01:17:23
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That's even, that's, I don't, I, again, the body count thing between Stallone and Schwarzenegger again just sounds like Hollywood competition.
01:17:35
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To sit there and say, I'm not going to, I write that in, like, That sounds like you're just, you you're hindering your own career.
01:17:46
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You're not being open to the potential of of characters. Like, when I hear something like that, that only, like, re-instills my, i don' why I don't like The Rock.
01:17:59
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Is he, he creates these, ah right, it's a fun rival ah rivalry against Stallone and Schwarzenegger in the industry. Rock's just being a pussy.
01:18:09
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you know I'm sorry. I hate to say that way, but i mean if you're going write yourself out of the potential of expanding your acting chops or your you know what you do as an actor, because you don't want to lose a fight because you think that's going to hurt your reputation in some cave fab wrestling world way.
01:18:34
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I'm sorry, you're off your rocker. That's the whole whole good shit right there. Yeah, yeah. and Again, it just takes away one complete story element. This character can never learn from loss, pick himself back up.
01:18:46
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Like Rocky III, man, great fucking movie. Take out Eye of the Tiger. It's still awesome. Yep, both or sort ah Schwarzenegger and Stallone weren't that petty. They lost their fights.
01:19:01
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Oh, Terminator, yeah, he has to lose because he's the bad guy. He's the bad guy, yeah. But he gets to come back as a good guy later, which I thought was an interesting twist. I liked that movie. Wow. Come with me if you want to live.
01:19:13
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That's another fun thing about the Terminator movies. In every movie, somebody at some point says that to somebody. And that's the Terminator franchise is one of those ones that so that is very expandable because it's based on infinite timelines.
01:19:27
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I mean, come on, it's written in ah into it. yeah You can do whatever you want. now depends on how how it's written if it's good or whatnot exactly exactly you can't just add time travel and make it cool i mean it's got to be good i mean when i'm thinking about something ridiculous like time travel i want it to be feasible that movie there's ah there's a time travel movie out there that i don't i think goes underrated i think it could
01:19:57
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I think there was potential for maybe a sequel, but it was Bruce Willis. It was called Loopers. yeah yeah I thought that was a great movie. Not like Blockbuster, but it was a really good time travel movie.
01:20:13
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I thought it really made it made you think. I don't think time travel, me personally, is a thing that can ever really happen, but I like the idea of thinking about it. I like time travel movies.
01:20:25
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The concept of time travel, like, the different effects that it could potentially pose from looper, uh, the side effects of like the butterfly effect, uh, Rick and Maury. They like the effects of time travels displayed in that one.
01:20:42
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Like I think time, time cop was another good one too. Time cop. Yes. Van Claude's Magnum. Yes. A movie is like that. I, I dig a good time travel movie.
01:20:55
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It's, I don't know. Yeah. It, it's fun you can do so much with them that our multiverse shows or movies are pretty good um unless you overdo it like the mcu looking at you disney looking at you the man in the high castle philip k i saw the show i like the show i didn't steven rupitz on that you just the idea of you know uh alternate timelines alternate histories and just sliding in and out of that you universe i mean There's some pretty compelling evidence, and I'm not saying I'm 100% believing in it, but there's some pretty compelling evidence out there of people that have slipped in and out of either time or space. Ian McShane, because he was in that. Ian McShane, thank you.
01:21:38
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yeah Yes, Willis Gordon-Levitt. I always fuck his name. Yeah, yeah. Tom's Gordon-Levitt. Oh, yeah. Man.
01:21:49
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So that's my two cents on that. There was another really good one, too. It's got...
01:21:56
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Actually, it's like a B movie. It was a low budget film. It's about time travel. ah At the next break, I'll look it up and I'll get the info. It was really good too. I mean, it was it was a big low budget movie, if you know what i'm saying.
01:22:08
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Like I saw it maybe or like... maybe, but it's a bunch of no-name actors. And it was just, it was well acted. It was well produced for, for that low budget thing. And it was an interesting story.
01:22:20
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And like you were saying, the effects and the potential consequences of that, this movie really addresses that. And I think they were only able to go back like three days or something like that and what they all did with it. And,
01:22:32
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oh Like they're a group of ah college kids or something like that or they're right out of college or grad students or something. They invent the thing. They realize it works and then they all kind of go back and use it secretly without no one else knowing.
01:22:45
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I know what you're talking about. It sounds funny. As soon as you said the three day rule. Yeah, it's like in the garage some shit where the thing is. forgot what it's called though. Or a basement. But either way, yeah, it was a good fucking flick.
01:22:57
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And again, it was it was low budget but high production value if that makes sense. It was well done, too. was just an an interesting, well well-acted movie. Again, the characters. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
01:23:10
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I don't know what just happened. but
01:23:16
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Well, time travel. What's your thoughts on it? I think the most abused time travel stuff was in Star Trek. I didn't really like the way it went. Although...
01:23:28
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The Voyage Home. The whale one. The one with the whales, as it's called. ah That was a good one. It was it was a fun time travel flick. But the Borg going back and trying to stop.
01:23:40
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Oh, shit. Jean-René Abouinois. His character, whatever it was. Like, uh... René. René Abouinois. Either way.
01:23:52
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Also, interesting fun fact that René Auburnois, actor, is a direct descendant of Napoleon. I just heard that the other day. Some more fun music movie trivia for you. I have no idea what happened to Blaze, but that was pretty cool. I hope everything's okay.
01:24:08
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ah With any luck, the house is not on fire. There he is. Maybe. What just happened? That freaked me out a little bit. Dogs fight.
01:24:19
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That's all. oo And one of the kids, they ruffled them up. So there's like, Oh no. I'm like, calm down. The dogs going get mad at each other a little bit.
01:24:31
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ah That's all. Dogs are going to go. This time traveling. I wish I was time traveling. Actually, I made sure I, um I didn't take, I didn't eat the full edible this time.
01:24:44
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Good call. Yes. Yeah. ah Sorry. Sorry for me stepping out. Thanks for, For caring. Added an extra last week.
01:24:57
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Oh,
Time Travel in Star Trek
01:24:58
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man. But yeah, I was just saying that I think the overdone time travel aspect is in certain series like Star Trek. Kind of overdoes the time travel thing. And I don't love the way they do it in most cases.
01:25:12
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God, I'm so so removed from Star Trek. I think the last franchise or series I really got into was Deep Space After that, I've kind of, except for the newer movies with Chris Pine, I watched those.
01:25:27
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That's a terrible thing, the way they used time in that one. I thought it was interesting and, again, feasible. And, again, it opened up a whole new universe by doing that. Like, it negates, doesn't negate, but, I mean, it completely removes everything done before it because that's that alternate timeline where Shatner was the captain and they had their adventures.
01:25:47
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And I liked Carl Irvin as new Bones. I thought he was an interesting take on that character because it wasn't you know he's an action guy. Yeah. At least the non-action guy in that one. I thought that was great.
01:25:58
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Ooh, that's a good one. I like the guy they pick for Spock. I always liked him in the the show Heroes. but When they cast him as Spock, was like, ooh, I'm really excited about that. That's it.
01:26:10
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He is great. Zachary Quinto. An actor that doesn't do enough, in my opinion. he should do more. And he was an excellent villain. I loved Siler, man. I'm glad you brought up Heroes. I loved Siler. It's a good show. What's up, Shaka?
01:26:23
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i was bummed out the way it ended. And the circus time ah the circus thing they were doing in the last season, that guy who plays the leader of the circus, another great Ohioan.
01:26:34
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I can't think of his name offhand. I used to know it. I wanted to circle around to Star Trek. real quick about time travel. in the In the earlier films, there was a crossover with Picard and Shatner. They did a time travel one.
01:26:51
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Oh, ah those are, I would say, the later films. It was called Star Trek Generations. Yes, yes, yes, yes. It was when Next Gen took over, the TNG group took over the film franchise from the original members.
01:27:05
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was a passed baton but Yeah, it was I didn't think about it that way, but yeah, it was a pass the baton for sort of... That was a little different. It was wasn't necessarily time travel. It was more like a time anomaly, like that space rip ribbon thing that was just flying.
01:27:25
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yeah okay. It was a little different. it was Yeah, I would still consider it a time travel movie or because even though they didn't cause it, it was still... It was an element. Time travel.
01:27:38
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Yeah, it was still part of the plot. I just think that um like the ones where they slingshot around the sun to get enough speed and then beep, you're back in time again. i don't know. that That annoyed me. But I was saying that also. The one with the whales in it, Star Trek, I think it was four for the Voyage Home.
01:27:57
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I like that one. Chaka shock i was picturing you saying that in a high-pitched cheerleaders. Save the cheerleaders, save the world, Chaka. Oh, my God.
01:28:08
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Heroes was my favorite. That's what I'm picturing you saying, sir. I think that is pretty much all the topics, my man. um Other than that, it's been a long week.
01:28:21
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It's been a long but fun-ass week. I feel Same here. yeah I didn't get a chance to eat earlier. and It's starting to catch up with me.
01:28:35
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what Any good movies? Have you watched any good movies lately?
01:28:42
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And I watch so much stuff. The fact that I try to have to remember. But generally what I'm doing is my gal Sue was raised Amish or something. She doesn't, she hasn't seen so many movies ever.
01:28:54
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Like classic old movies. So what I generally would do is like, you ever seen this? Nope. Never seen it. Boom. We watch it. You know who doesn't like old classic movies?
01:29:04
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The lake. And he can, I like to rub his face in it sometimes. Well, what's your, what's your opinion of an old classic? ah um Agent Orange.
Discussing 'A Clockwork Orange'
01:29:20
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A Stanley Rubik movie. Stanley Kubrick, Agent Orange. Agent Orange? God, am I fucking losing my mind? are you are you Hold on, are you thinking of a Full Metal Jacket?
01:29:34
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No. Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong one. the
01:29:41
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A clockwork orange. Clockwork orange. Thank you. My fucking brain. Thank you. That's Kubrick. A clockwork orange. Clockwork orange. Yes. Yes.
01:29:53
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Maybe I should have did something easier. Something a little bit not as old, but classic Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure. Sure. Talking about time time travel. That's a great time travel one. Beef oven. That's a great one.
01:30:10
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oh I totally ravaged the Koenigs at the San Dimas Mall. Which ones are you?
01:30:20
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well They're classics. Love those movies. there was ah i'm I'm from a town. No, not from a town. I live in a town not too far away from another town that used to have a Piggly Wiggly when I grew up.
01:30:33
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It wasn't Piggly Wiggly. that' That is a ah ah supermarket, right? It was a supermarket, yes. It was called Ziggy's. Ziggy's Ice Cream. Ziggy Piggy. Ziggy Piggy. Ziggy Piggy. Not Piggly Wiggly.
01:30:48
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I think they said Piggly Wiggly, though. No. I'll have to watch it again. Either way, it still made me laugh. Ziggy Piggy. Ziggy Piggy. was not Piggly Wiggly. That is a bona fide fact.
01:31:00
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That's why I will be the undisputed food. I still need a and so you double I still need to double check the... i'll You don't need to double check it I'm right. You're Huckleberry. You probably... you Most likely you are.
01:31:14
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There's no most likely. I'm going to do it anyway. for sure.
01:31:19
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Glick, I just... i Clockwork Orange doesn't seem like a movie you'd watch. even Even I'm surprised i watch it because I'm lacklustre in college.
01:31:32
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You don't get that. You don't get that, right? ah That is a movie a movie on a book, based on a book. It is. The original book, way different, way darker.
01:31:45
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Like that scene where the they have like that fast forward sex scene. See, in the book, those kids are, those boys are like 10 to 12. And those two girls in that scene are like six years old and 10 years old or six years old and nine years old, something like that. They're they're all kids.
01:32:00
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They're all kids. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Oh, wow. And there's a really, really ugly scene ah with a dog torture and the in the original book.
01:32:11
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I cannot think of who wrote it, and I know I should know the name.
01:32:15
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I believe it's the same dude who did
01:32:20
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Less Than Zero. I'm almost positive the same guy. I'm not sure. Brett Easton Ellis. Both books.
01:32:29
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both books
01:32:32
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Since I think it is, now I got to check myself. What is your, what is your impression of, or do you have any favorite propaganda movies or anti-establishment propaganda movies such as They Live would would would be considered anti-establishment propaganda movie?
01:32:55
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Les Mis. Les Mis? but you Did you say Les Mis? I said Les Mis. Did you say Les Mis? Les Mis Rob? Yeah. Never seen it, ah the play or the film.
01:33:06
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Haven't seen it. Oh, then what did you say originally? I was making sure you said Les Mis. What did you say originally? I said Les Mis question mark. Oh, okay.
01:33:18
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I was making sure I heard you right. What was the question? ah Idiocracy.
01:33:29
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Idiocracy. To America, World Police. Okay. Two excellent anti-establishment movies. Yep. and Okay. All right.
01:33:41
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All right. God, I was reaching even back farther, like some cliche ones, 1984, Animal Was Animal Farm adapted into a film?
01:33:55
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Animal Farm? but Yeah, it was it was an animated film. Oh, check that out. Okay, that's right. So, you know what? Now that you're my co-host on here, the question I had to ask is it was a stumbling block with my last one. What's animated films or claymation or anything outside of real live action?
01:34:20
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What's your opinion on those? Good? Worth the entertainment? Worth the discussion? Any any ah media creative outlet can be good.
01:34:32
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Yeah, that's ours. Like when you talk about claymation, moral oral on Adult Swim. do you ever catch that? oh Oh. Dino Stamatopoulos. Have you seen my comedy?
01:34:43
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I Adult Swim all the way. i've I've seen it. I've seen it. Yeah, you me your you show me your cartoon. ah I'm retarded like that. I'm not as shallow as that. I mean, it was excellent.
01:34:55
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And the story was outstanding. And just the the sweetness of the character and how jacked up it is. Yeah. but but What do you mean thought he was?
01:35:07
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ah
01:35:09
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but ah More oral. here's Here's one setback for me. When I think of old, old like classic classics, like Psycho, is one of the very few black and white movies
Opinions on Black & White Films
01:35:23
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I'll watch.
01:35:23
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I don't like black and white. I don't know what it is about it. Can't stand black and white. okay I haven't seen it, but I know it's anti-establishment. The Count of Monte Cristo. Apparently they remade it recently and it was really, really good. I'm going to have to check that out.
01:35:36
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Okay. All right. B for Vendetta, that dystopian future type flick, but it's also very anti-establishment. He's trying to you know break the cycle of this the state telling people how and what to think.
01:35:52
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And I love that concept. And it was just a neat movie. And dude, I could listen to Hugo Weaving read the phone book. That man's got a velvet voice. Much like myself, hey.
01:36:07
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I was thinking in like Morgan Freeman, but yeah. Oh, sure, Morgan Freeman, great voice. Yours is sexy, too. Don't get me wrong, Michael. No, I'm not getting you wrong. i know what i'm I know what I'm working with.
01:36:19
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And I've got range, too. e In my stage act, I yeah have a couple characters that pop out here and there, and their voices are very different. And people look at me so weird, like I did not know that voice was in there.
01:36:32
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There's a lot of voices in there. You never know what's coming out. Yeah, Alvin Chouppard's Psycho, a very ah technically advanced film.
01:36:43
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They built a rotating set for the shower scene. The camera stayed put, the whole set rotated to give that frantic, you know, he's running around trying to get to the, and the whole thing is just, it's the set that's moving and the people that move.
01:36:57
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The camera never moves at all. That's why it's so steady for the entire thing. Oh, that's interesting. I've seen the set. It's really cool. they yeah They don't recreate the scene or anything, but they show the set rotating stuff. It's in one of the yeah paramount Paramount parks.
01:37:12
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Okay. See, it's it's it's if it's info like that that I absolutely enjoy. there's little Those It sounds... I mean, it's 2025. That doesn't sound like some big technological breakthrough in cinematography. Cinematography.
01:37:30
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cinnamon ah Cinematography. Cinematography. Thank you. Words are hard. However, back then, like those little things were like mind blowing.
01:37:41
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Yeah. Fucking. um Completely groundbreaking. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty awesome. And another little fun fact about Psycho. The Bates Mansion doesn't exist.
01:37:55
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What was it? It was a model. It was like a dollhouse sitting hill sitting on a hill. But the hill is only like 12 or 14 feet tall. But with the perspective, it looks like it's a massive uphill run to this big, massive mansion.
01:38:11
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So that perspective and that camera angle has a specific name to it. For the life of me, it escapes me. It's actually... i I like finding old houses or dark areas and taking pictures from that angle because it adds a level of creepiness to it.
01:38:31
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um I thought you were talking about the way they scale things up based on... No, no. It's... I call that the Tom Cruise shot. It's that low angle going up like this it gives it an unsettling kind of feel to Sort because it's it's big, it's ominous.
01:38:49
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It's... Yeah. If you were to film me from the bottom up, it would also be unsettling.
01:38:58
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Coming out of the shower, you don't want to see that. Oh, gross. Gross. I wasn't thinking shower scene at all, man. Why you have to put that in my fucking head?
01:39:12
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Shower scene. The best shower scene of all time. Beverly D'Angelo, National Lampoon's Vacation.
The Legacy of Chevy Chase
01:39:20
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Okay, so I wasn't a huge fan of all those movies. Oh, wait. it was It was European Vacation, my fault. I loved them. Loved them. But that was my four years.
01:39:32
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Not really. Okay, I wasn't. It's really Chevy Chase. He annoyed me. Not all of his work. Not all of his work. Like, okay. Maybe I gave him a pass because of other people that worked with him, like the three amigos at Steve Martin.
01:39:48
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and Martin Short. Martin short, great fucking comedians. love those guys, but Chevy chase, man, he just never really did it for me.
01:40:00
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So, um, there was one movie that I thought he was pretty good in, or he was the main character. i think he was a detective. Fletch. Fletch. Thank you. Investigative reporter.
01:40:14
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That's what it was. Yes. Fletch was okay. Other than that, you wasn't a huge, huge, uh, um um Chevy Chase fan. I thought he ruined community. Like literally ruined it.
01:40:27
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Spies like us. No. Him and Aykroyd playing opposite each other. You didn't care for that one.
01:40:36
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I mean, i like Aykroyd. mean, Aykroyd's funny. Chevy Chase, I just. Aykroyd's a legend. Fair. Chevy Chase. Chevy Chase is a legend too.
01:40:47
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I don't. very don I understand now. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to disrespect his talent and what he's brought to his movies and his craft and all that. He's talented.
01:40:58
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you know I but respect him for that, but just his art just wasn't for me. Dig it. That's all. And that's the thing about art. It's subjective. Yeah, yeah. There are people out there that actually think I'm one of the unfunniest people you can ever see on stage.
01:41:14
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They haven't seen me on stage. That's probably why. But it's just, I mean... I get too much love to know I'm not bad at what I do. I'm i'm very good at what I do. But some people out there just for whatever reason, I don't resonate with them. I'm not. Maybe it's something i I look like somebody that's wrong to their family in the past. I don't know.
01:41:35
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Hmm.
01:41:38
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I don't know. Art's subjective. Some people think some people are super duper hilarious and I just don't see it. Yeah. Some people think, oh God, what's his name? He played in, um,
01:41:49
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He played in Half Baked. With Jim Brewer. Yeah. Like, he ain't funny. I'm going to send you a link to a story you have to listen to and you tell me he's not funny.
01:42:01
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It's one of the best stories I've ever heard in my life. He used to be funny. He ain't funny anymore. His recent stuff's not funny. I don't know what he's like ah with his stand-up. I know him as a comedic actor.
01:42:12
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okay I'm talking strictly stand-up. Right on. Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chevy Chase is an acquired taste for sure, but super talented. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:42:23
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Definitely talented. Super drug addict. There's all that too. Agreed. Agreed. Which doesn't, you know, I'm not here to judge, but there's a lot more behind the scenes of Chevy Chase that make him a bad person.
01:42:39
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And it's not that I don't care. i' um'm um I'm not into the drug addict thing. I don't care. That doesn't bother me at all. I mean, we all destroy ourselves our own way. I destroy myself my way. You destroy yourself your way. I don't care. As long not hurting other people, I don't care. yeah You're not out stealing or whatever, that's fine.
01:42:53
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But when you're all jacked up on something and then you can't behave yourself and you act like a jerk to people and you you say racist things and you say hurtful things on purpose because that's who you are. You're just a grumpy old drug addict.
01:43:05
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That bothers me. You're hurting other people at that point. I'm looking at you, Bill Cosby.
01:43:13
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No, he didn't hurt them. they They were in a wake at the time. Jesus Christ.
01:43:23
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I'm going to hell for laughing at that joke. I'm going to hell for saying it. You go to heaven for the weather, baby. You go to hell for the company. I'm going to be in damn good company. I know this is such a dad joke, but the way the weather is just recently, I saw me And then I'm going to start winding this puppy down. But it seems as though winter and summer is in a custody battle over spring right now.
01:43:49
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So. Oh. It is something like that. The weather here is weird.
01:43:57
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Yeah. i hear Yeah. I hear you. You know it's bad when you get a wow from Glick. Yeah.
01:44:09
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The views and and the opinions expressed here are not necessarily views and opinions expressed by the Nonsensical Network. ah See, i'm ah i'm a I'm a it's not too soon for that joke kind of guy.
01:44:23
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I'm an it's never too soon guy. Yeah, exactly. That Gilbert got fired from the Aflac duck job because he made the yeah the joke about the tsunami or whatever. That's bullshit.
01:44:34
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didn't He didn't post it as the Aflac duck. That's some bullshit. He lost his job over that. He posted it as himself a comedian.
Cancel Culture's Impact on Comedy
01:44:43
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Right. A comedian who's known to say some dark ass shit.
01:44:48
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Yeah. That's, that's, I don't, I'm sorry. There's comedy is comedy. I mean, there's comedians out there that I don't think is funny like Jim Brewer, but I'm not sitting here saying fire his ass.
01:45:03
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Sure. Sure. I'm just a rational human being. That's the thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think what would ah what happened to Gilbert was bullshit.
01:45:15
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ah One of my favorite current comedians, ah I would pay money to see this guy, is... ah her Man, marijuana, you are such a fickle mistress.
01:45:27
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Oh, shit. He does the time... show that's not That's not how the joke... No, you misdrew that joke. That's not... The thing was they couldn't feel it because they were asleep. There's a difference.
01:45:39
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No graping. No graping. It's not okay. I did not say it was okay. You miss you misread that situation.
01:45:50
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Man, you have to go back and edit this. Maybe edit that part out. Only the live people get that one. If that's what other people are thinking too, it's like, uh-oh, uh-oh, I made a fox pause.
01:46:05
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And that totally reset my brain. What the hell was saying? I don't know. um ah have Yes, that was a great sketch. i great sketch Richard Pryor was awesome.
01:46:21
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got i saw henry yeah From what I the real history of that particular sketch, real quick. ah It wasn't rehearse rehearsed, rehearsed.
01:46:32
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And Richard Pryor, in the moment, was getting a little heated. because he also knows how Chevy Chase is and how he... The fact that those two got paired up for that was kind of a strange irony.
01:46:44
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And it did get, like... He wasn't ready to swing on him or anything, but you like it wasn't all fake heat in the sketch, because you can kind of see it Pryor's face. He's not just acting that that was upsetting to me, but he was... It was in this it was in his face.
01:47:00
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Ha, ha, ha! You got to be somebody to get canceled, Glick. I'm a level zero nobody. You can't cancel me yet. But in 10 years when I'm uber famous, this clip can come back and get me canceled in 10 years.
01:47:12
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Like they kind of canceled the Duke because of what he said in the 1970s at the Oscars. Cancel culture is a made up crybaby shit. It's only right now.
01:47:24
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But anyway, man, it'll come to me and I'll shout it out this comedian's name. ah Dan Cummins, Dan Cummins. C-U-M-M-I-N-S, Cummins. And yeah, yeah, see?
01:47:36
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You've heard the story too. Yeah, that's legit. That's a good little piece of SNL trivia. Dan Cummins has a thing where he talks about how people will get so upset about a particular joke, they'll write them letters or whatever and say, you should take that completely out of your set. Is that any other thing?
01:47:54
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It's like, but why? So many other people were laughing. Why take that joy from them That's not fair. yeah You don't like it, fine. There was 55 other minutes of material you liked.
01:48:07
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Why do I have to take that five out? You didn't like it, but 85% of the crowd did. Why would I take that away from them to satisfy you? It doesn't make sense. It's entitled crybaby bullshit, exactly what you said.
01:48:19
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Yeah.
Critique of Prop Comedy
01:48:20
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but that's like all so like There's a comedian, Jeff Dunham. Is that his name? Jeff Dunham. Yeah, he does the puppet.
01:48:30
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Don't care for him. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not a big fan of him either. And a lot people like, why, man? You think his jokes are racist? No, I just think his jokes are dumb.
01:48:40
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I'm not in a prop. Yeah, it's just. i'm I'm a purist when it comes to stand up. it's not even It's not even the prop part. it's it's the It's just the jokes are just.
01:48:53
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Like you if you take the props away. It's just old sitcom jokes.
01:49:01
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I see that. Yeah. so Just rehashed older stuff, almost street jokes even. Yeah. I did see ah he did on one special where he started doing just stand-up before he brought the puppets out.
01:49:14
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And I will give him this. That was more entertaining than anything I'd ever seen before since. Take the puppets away. He doesn't do just the puppet stuff, like where the two characters interacting or whatever. He actually told some jokes and did some material.
01:49:26
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And i was I thought it was good. I enjoyed it. All right. because he was doing standup and the yeah the material was good and it was well written. It was well performed. You know, he has the presence everything. He can do it.
01:49:38
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Why he chooses the puppet thing is beyond me, but you can say and do and put across certain ideas with with another puppet or whatever that you can't just do because it makes it unsavory.
01:49:49
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But when you make the puppet a caricature of, you know, a terrorist, now it's palatable. See, now that we're getting close to the end of the show, You brought something up now that I want.
01:50:02
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Nothing about film. we Definitely going around staying a comedian. Oh, my bad. Right now. No, you're good. I want to. I want to. I'm looking at the time. I'm like, shit. So going to get one more question in there.
01:50:13
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You said you weren't a big fan of prop comedy. very Fair. What's your opinion? The devil. The devil. The devil. ah You read my mind. Never perform again.
01:50:27
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What's that? Carrot Top, never perform again. Carrot Top, who brought us chairman of the board. Carrot Top, the king of prop comedy. He doesn't perform anymore?
01:50:38
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Oh, God, I hope not. Why? What happened? Well, he's the worst thing that happens to comedy. Really? In my opinion. Fair. Okay. But again, I'm a purist. I want to stand up to stand up.
01:50:50
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that That prop comedy stuff just it doesn't do it for me. Maybe as a kid I would like it, but I also liked Three Stooges as a kid. ah Fair enough. hey Okay, yeah, it has been decades since I watched Caratop.
01:51:04
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But I thought his prop comedy was funnier than, let's say, Gallagher. Oh, Gallagher. Which Gallagher? One or two? Well, the one that smashed the watermelons. They both did. They were twin brothers. Did you not know about that?
01:51:20
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I did not. Yeah. but Anyway, that's a long story in and of itself. We're short on time, so I'll skip that. But yeah, look into it sometimes. There's Gallagher and there's Gallagher 2. And they had to make a distinction because but the one brother sued the other.
01:51:35
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Interesting. Yeah, yeah. it's ah It's a wild story. Check it out. OK. All right. Prop comedy. Let's just, ah again, i just, it doesn't do it for me. Is it a skill and a talent? I will say yes, it is.
01:51:48
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It just doesn't do it for me. I don't like that kind of comedy. And it just, meh. Fair enough. He likes it there and tell your material. If you got jokes and you have material.
01:52:03
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Oh, did I freeze or did he freeze? I think I froze. Oh no.
01:52:13
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Yep. I froze.
01:52:17
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Oh no. Michael froze. Oh shoot. Michael froze. I couldn't tell. Oh, wow. Well, Michael, you are frozen. Yeah, Michael froze.
01:52:28
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Well, ladies and gentlemen and audience of everybody out there, that is awesome. I'm going to go ahead and shut this puppy down. Thanks for joining us tonight, Friday, for Nonsense and Chill.
01:52:40
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