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Georgia over Texas, Tennessee over Alabama, and Too-Early Playoff Predictions
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The boys break down some of the biggest games of the weekend including Georgia taking down Texas, Tennessee beating Alabama, Indiana dominating Nebraska, and Miami and Iowa St escaping with narrow victories. They also give some too-early playoff predictions and discuss the chaos in the Texas student section.
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Transcript
Introduction and Weekend Highlights
00:00:12
Zack
What is up? Welcome to the next guy podcast. We have an awesome episode for you today. We had a big weekend in football. We had some huge games go down. We will be talking and breaking down all of those games for you. We are excited about it. So, Tins, how are we doing today?
00:00:29
nextguyup
We are doing great coming off of a big weekend of gambling, big weekend of all my favorite teams won. My fancy team might even win too. We might have a weekend sweep on our hands.
00:00:40
Zack
Uh-uh. Big time.
00:00:43
nextguyup
and hit some bets if you're in the discord shout out if you followed me yesterday for college football or I guess Saturday for college football we had a great day and if you're not following our picks in there um you're dumb because it's free return on money it's it's a free discord and I'm like like I'm twelve five and one last two weeks so I don't know it's pretty good twelve is bigger than five
00:00:56
Zack
Free. That is a fact.
00:01:10
Zack
He's been, he's been killing it. Uh, tens has been, he's getting, don't know now, but his college betting is getting hot.
00:01:17
nextguyup
Yeah, ignore the NFL. Just ignore it.
00:01:19
Zack
He's been, don't worry about that.
00:01:21
nextguyup
I'm done with it.
00:01:22
Zack
He's been in the streets though.
Key College Football Matchups
00:01:24
Zack
Um, collecting his money in college. So, uh, Tennessee first quarter spread hit zero zero.
00:01:32
nextguyup
Once again, it's only last once this whole season. Hey, if they hit the hand.
00:01:37
Zack
ah But you're go yeah're we're gonna take plus point five there that's that's solid um So we had we did have a couple of big games. We had Georgia, Texas um In what is a top five matchup we also had Tennessee, Alabama um Both games were fun. We we now I feel like our picture is starting to become a little bit clearer on I feel like every week in college football, the picture becomes a little bit clearer, but also our path towards the playoffs becomes a little bit foggier.
00:02:12
nextguyup
Hm.
00:02:13
Zack
um And then you have teams like um Vanderbilt a couple weeks ago who just do something crazy and then it's like, well, I thought I knew what this team was. Just kidding. They just lost to Vanderbilt. or They just do something weird that just shocks you.
00:02:26
Zack
So I don't know. this is This year in college is becoming weirder and weirder in some ways. This week, honestly, was a little bit more chalk down the board. um Not a lot of huge surprises.
00:02:39
Zack
But there were some fun games. There's a couple teams out there that are getting very interesting to watch. We are looking over to Indiana for one team that is looking especially frisky right now.
00:02:53
nextguyup
Frisky. Yeah. Frisky is the right word for him.
00:02:57
Zack
And their coach as well dropped the f-bomb in the in the pre the you did you hear about that?
00:03:02
nextguyup
I did see that. Yep.
00:03:03
Zack
Yeah, he's uh, he's a little bit no nonsense. I'm kind of afraid of that guy
00:03:09
nextguyup
He's, you know, I was watching a lot of their pregame stuff and and they asked him about that clip that's going viral where he's, or going re-viral where he says, Google me, I win. That's what I do.
00:03:20
nextguyup
And he said, yeah, well, I had spent the whole day, my first day answering nothing but questions about how are you going to win? How can you win in a program like Indiana? How can you do it against these big teams like Ohio State and Michigan and blah, blah, blah?
00:03:34
Zack
Mm hmm.
00:03:35
nextguyup
And he said, I just finally got tired of it. And I just wanted everyone to realize that like, Everywhere I've gone, I've won. So I just, that was my answer. And here we are. I haven't lost yet.
00:03:43
Zack
Never coached a losing season.
00:03:47
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:03:47
Zack
I think I saw that step.
00:03:49
nextguyup
Yeah, that's crazy.
Florida's Season and Challenges
00:03:50
nextguyup
He, I saw one, like he spent two seasons at a pretty small school. His record wasn't great, but it was, he didn't have a losing season, but he wasn't there very long.
00:04:00
nextguyup
It's like, it's like some D two level school.
00:04:02
Zack
Hmm.
00:04:04
nextguyup
um But yeah, I mean, he makes me nervous. Cause I think he's going to take a big, like he's going to take a promotion after this year. I think he's going to be a guy who gets like a,
00:04:11
Zack
I think you probably will.
00:04:16
nextguyup
an Upgrade job not the Indiana's not great. They're it's fun. They're good and you know good basketball school, but it's not a football school and Some big big-time school is gonna offer him a bag of money I know we're gonna talk about some hot seats later and ah some some teams that could be linked to him Yeah, he brought all his boys
00:04:21
Zack
Not a football school. Yeah. We are.
00:04:36
Zack
And I was watching the broadcast a little bit and they were just like, this guy came from JMU. And this guy also came from JMU. It's like, wow, it's interesting how that works out. You just bring your whole team and all of a sudden they're pretty good.
00:04:47
nextguyup
Yep.
00:04:47
Zack
Weird.
00:04:48
nextguyup
He nailed the transfer, uh, transfer portal quarterback, uh, kid from Miami of Ohio, I think is where he was from.
00:04:52
Zack
Which is proving very difficult to do, by the way.
00:04:57
nextguyup
Yeah. Nailing the transfer portal quarterback.
00:04:58
Zack
There's a lot of teams that really did not nail the chance for quarterback.
00:05:02
nextguyup
Yeah. Some of the did.
00:05:04
Zack
They're the ones that are One and six, shout out to Florida State.
00:05:08
nextguyup
Yeah. Nothing like giving a guy his third chance of college football. You know, you're the team that can fix him. Third, third time's a charm. Shout out DJ.
00:05:17
Zack
Do you think Norville knows that tanking in college football doesn't work?
00:05:22
nextguyup
You know, I don't know if he's figured that out yet. Um, there's not, there's not a draft.
00:05:25
Zack
Is he trying to tank maybe?
00:05:27
nextguyup
You don't get extra money in the, in the NIL deal.
00:05:28
Zack
Yeah.
00:05:30
nextguyup
If you are the worst team, like that's not how it works.
00:05:34
Zack
I don't know if I've ever seen a team that just
00:05:35
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:05:37
Zack
I feel like this is what I expected out of Florida to be a hundred percent honest with you.
00:05:41
nextguyup
yeah
00:05:43
Zack
Like whenever I just expected them just to kind of roll over and die and just be like, well, our coach is terrible. He's leaving. What, what are we doing here? And Florida for their credit has not done that.
00:05:55
nextguyup
No, they've really.
00:05:55
Zack
Uh, Florida has become a pretty interesting football team, uh, to follow and be the Kentucky team that was pretty unmotivated, but it's not a bad team.
00:06:05
nextguyup
Right.
00:06:05
Zack
And. Billy and Ape are fighting for his job out here.
00:06:09
nextguyup
Yeah, we were talking.
00:06:09
Zack
Somehow he is not the most fireable person in college football right now.
00:06:13
nextguyup
Yeah, we we're talking a little bit before I did. Zach said, I think Florida might be fighting for a bowl game. And at that point, Billy's probably not going anywhere.
Unpredictability in College Football
00:06:20
nextguyup
And I agree. I know that he's, him and, and DJ lagway are very like tied at the hip. That was his big recruit that he brought there and, uh,
00:06:30
nextguyup
He's played very well and him being a freshman, I think Billy kind of has found a way to keep his job as long as nothing. I think if they were to get embarrassed again this season, especially the way their schedule ends, I don't think they've got a super tough schedule to end the season.
00:06:45
Zack
We're talking about Florida.
00:06:45
nextguyup
So I think if they, yeah, talking about Florida.
00:06:49
Zack
I don't know if you'd be correct in that.
00:06:51
nextguyup
Am I not?
00:06:52
Zack
This was the team that we we were touting as the toughest schedule in cultural ball history at the beginning of the season.
00:06:57
nextguyup
I know, but I feel like they've, I feel like they got LSU.
00:07:00
Zack
Well, Florida State helps.
00:07:02
nextguyup
Right. They've got Florida state on the schedule.
00:07:03
Zack
They have Florida State at the very end. um
00:07:07
nextguyup
It should be what LSU and Texas maybe.
00:07:10
Zack
They have five games left, so they've got um They're at Georgia.
00:07:16
nextguyup
Oh, that's right. That's in Jacksonville.
00:07:17
Zack
At Texas.
00:07:19
nextguyup
Okay.
00:07:20
Zack
LSU in Florida.
00:07:20
nextguyup
Definitely. Yep.
00:07:23
Zack
They host Ole Miss.
00:07:23
nextguyup
I was definitely wrong. Yeah.
00:07:25
Zack
And then they're at Florida State.
00:07:27
nextguyup
Okay. Well, I guess there's still a chance Billy gets fired, but.
00:07:30
Zack
Look like four teams with. Yeah, I mean, I think there's a pretty high chance they lose the next four games, but it's also if they could be thinking when one of those in Florida State.
00:07:42
Zack
It's electric.
00:07:42
nextguyup
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. But no, definitely not like the, the favorite to get fired anymore, but they've just been, they've been a surprise.
00:07:50
Zack
True. They're battling.
00:07:53
nextguyup
I mean, I'm i'm a little Kentucky, they're weird. we kind of thought they were going to be scrappy to kind of be a team that wants to, they were early on and now fact they've just kind of, and they've packed their bags.
00:08:00
Zack
Which they were early on. Yeah.
00:08:05
Zack
Yeah, after they're giving up.
00:08:07
nextguyup
They're they're looking at Cancun. <unk>re They're
Controversial Calls and Refereeing
00:08:10
nextguyup
ready to go on vacation.
00:08:12
Zack
Weird, weird stuff. um Well, we're we're going to get into some categories. ah There were two big games on our radar this week.
00:08:24
Zack
um and why Why don't we just go ahead and break down these two games, and then we'll kind of run run jump into our categories. We've got ah Georgia at Texas.
00:08:35
Zack
Matthew McConaughey on the sideline.
00:08:37
nextguyup
Hmm.
00:08:37
Zack
The drones in the sky in the second half.
00:08:40
nextguyup
That was pretty cool.
00:08:41
Zack
um I think that the... the Talking point coming out of this game is really gonna end up being Can we just throw stuff on the field and get calls changed? Because that was one of the weirdest That was truly one of these strangest things I've ever seen in college football wear So if if you're not I mean I feel since podcast you probably know what I'm talking about but if you if you don't There was a pretty there's a very bad call
00:08:54
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:09:10
Zack
against Texas where they called a holding penalty on the defensive back which negated a huge interception and a return and it gave Georgia the ball back essentially the fans I mean honestly this is not nothing as the fans they did not like that but then they started throwing things on the field which my fan base could never do something like this throw things on the field in anger
00:09:37
nextguyup
Never too much class and integrity.
00:09:41
Zack
I will say, whenever Tennessee did this, they people got the pitchforks out. Tennessee fans, classless Tennessee fans.
00:09:48
nextguyup
Mm hmm.
00:09:50
Zack
What are they doing? Texas fans do it. They get the call changed.
00:09:52
nextguyup
Plotted So
00:09:54
Zack
So that's where I think this or the story changes here is if the referees, while they're trying to clear up the mess of the students throwing things on the field, they get together and decide, oh, we were wrong.
00:10:07
Zack
We're going to change the call now. I, ah this is, they came out with a statement and the NCAA and SEC was like, referees are allowed to confer with each other. They, they got, they talked and they disagreed. They agreed. They, they agreed to change the call. This is not, this can't happen when there's a giant video board showing the replay.
00:10:32
nextguyup
over and over again, because they're not allowed to be influenced by the video board.
00:10:35
Zack
fans are throwing things on the field and then they say, oh, we talked and we decided that we were actually wrong at first. If if the fans hadn't been th throwing things, they would have just started the next play, ran the play and then it would have been done.
00:10:51
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:10:52
Zack
So I don't understand how this is a thing. I think the SEC is going to work very hard to make sure it doesn't happen again. But boy, what a bad look for these officials.
00:11:05
Zack
I don't know, that's wild.
00:11:06
nextguyup
Yeah, that that's tough because but they talk all the time like you It's literally in the refs like rules that they're not like a coach will tell them all the time They'll like pointed the screen like look look at the replay and the refs are like we're not allowed to be in like we can't we can't do that It's a judgment call.
00:11:19
Zack
It's a judgment call.
00:11:21
nextguyup
You can't in my opinion. You can't reverse the judgment call. It has been called It is what it is.
00:11:25
Zack
Yep, it's done.
00:11:27
nextguyup
It's just part ah of the game but
00:11:27
Zack
Pass interference, holding.
Playoff Contenders and Scenarios
00:11:30
nextguyup
false starts like
00:11:33
Zack
You can't review that for a reason, ever.
00:11:33
nextguyup
It's, you can't review it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. If, if it can't be reviewed, then it can't be reversed like that.
00:11:36
Zack
You missed it. Sorry.
00:11:42
nextguyup
So I ended up not mattering, but it could have mattered.
00:11:43
Zack
It didn't matter if it had mattered, boy, would we ah definitely good after me at that point, the Texas was down to touchdown her eight points.
00:11:53
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:11:53
Zack
But to get the ball back or no, maybe they were down.
00:11:56
nextguyup
Uh, yeah.
00:11:58
Zack
I think that was before they scored. But yes, anyways, I mean, at that point, it was a critical piece of the game. Definitely could have made the difference. um I don't, I just don't get how that can happen.
00:12:11
Zack
I think that's, that's insane. But here we are.
00:12:18
nextguyup
but yeah congrats to Georgia.
00:12:19
Zack
ah Once again, we we allow things like this and we're still allowing fake injuries on the field. I don't, someone explain that to me.
00:12:24
nextguyup
Yeah, we got we gotta get some stuff figured out here. I'm honestly for, I'm for robot refs.
00:12:29
Zack
ah fish Officials have been all over the place.
00:12:34
nextguyup
I really am. Take out the um human element of referees making mistakes, to be honest.
00:12:44
Zack
it's That's very it's very tough and I feel like you could definitely do that in baseball.
00:12:49
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:12:49
Zack
I Mean that's been talked about you probably will happen at some point um the robot umpire who can because I mean that at that point you're it's All be difficult especially with the calls like we like we talked about like pass interference, I mean it changes every it's like refereeing basketballs similarly very difficult Where a whole game flow can change depending on how a ref's calling something?
00:12:59
nextguyup
Yeah, I don't get it in baseball like. I know I just I get tired of.
00:13:15
nextguyup
Yeah. Well, that's the thing in the NFL. this there's an There's literally an account that I follow for betting and it's it's certain refs call certain things and certain refs don't. And so there's literally a betting account where they track this and they're like, all right, so this ref and his crew like to call holding penalties at this amount and this clip, and ah it can influence the over and under of a game by a half a point.
00:13:38
Zack
Wow.
00:13:42
nextguyup
And in the NFL, that's,
00:13:44
Zack
That's a lot.
00:13:44
nextguyup
that That's a lot because the margins are small and so it really does like effects like I it's a resource I use for gambling and yeah on the NFL So I would like to just get rid of that because some crews are different than others.
00:13:44
Zack
Yeah.
00:13:48
Zack
Hmm.
00:13:56
Zack
Very interesting.
00:13:58
nextguyup
I would like it to just be Across the board consistent But that is the human element of it and that's that's I'd probably complain about robot reps to If I was being honest
00:13:58
Zack
Oh yeah.
00:14:13
Zack
maybe calling I mean that's the thing it's like calling holds especially like could you if they called every hold that existed in football could you imagine it would just be every play that is interesting I don't know that that was the first I've ever seen something like that of course it happens in Texas
00:14:24
nextguyup
It'd be every play. Yeah. You could call holding on pretty much every play.
00:14:39
nextguyup
Couldn't happen to a better team.
00:14:40
Zack
um And Kirby Smart was not happy about it.
00:14:44
nextguyup
He was.
00:14:45
Zack
After being Texas in the press conference, he let everyone know that he wasn't happy about it. He would probably be incurring a large fine.
00:14:50
nextguyup
Yeah, he'll have a nice fine. I don't think he cares.
00:14:56
Zack
Wild stuff. So to get to the actual game, ah Georgia was pretty dominant in this one. most I mean, there was a time in the second half where it looked like Texas was making a charge.
00:15:07
Zack
um Arch Manning came in in the second quarter at the end of it Which Yeah um no He was better yeah, nothing that says it settles you down like getting benched I
00:15:07
nextguyup
Mm hmm.
00:15:12
nextguyup
Yes, Stark said it was just to kind of settle Quentin down and just kind of. I don't know, he's he's more athletic and George's pass rush was really just dominating the day, and so I think that's why Arch got in there for a minute. And then after that, Quentin Quentin did settle down. He looked better. It was a little too late.
00:15:38
Zack
I don't know. I mean, I guess if you're trying to inspire competition or whatever, that's something you can do. There have been very few circumstances where paid a true like dual quarterback situation works effectively at the highest level.
00:15:50
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:15:52
Zack
But. It's very interesting. I don't know. I was not expecting it, but it was a it was a fun game. Texas um just kind of got beat up by Georgia's defense, which was dominant for the most part.
00:16:08
Zack
30 to 15 was your final score there and Georgia all of a sudden ah Kind of rises back to the top of the conversation of what is the best team in the country alongside Oregon who?
00:16:20
Zack
beat a very bad Purdue team 35 to 0 This is another situation where our picture of Where we're at this season is just getting a little blurrier instead of more clear Texas who like people thought were kind of proven dominant and
00:16:34
nextguyup
Mm hmm.
00:16:38
Zack
All of a sudden look pretty human against to their first real competition they've seen this season. Georgia looks to have a couple of big games under the belt already and looked a little bit more like a team that's seen some real competition. The top of the SEC is a weird place right now. There are a lot of one lost teams running around the SEC. A lot of them actually. We'll talk about some in a second, but there's
00:17:05
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:17:06
Zack
A lot of teams are reviving for those two SSE championship slots.
00:17:12
nextguyup
i think My thing with Georgia is up into this point, their defense hadn't looked like the dominant defense that they normally have every year. And Jalen Walker, who's a very good player for them, had kind of been like on a pitch count leading up to this game. ah He was really only brought in for like situational pass rushes, because he's coming off of an injury. This was his first game.
00:17:35
nextguyup
Snap count free like he just got the play normal and his impact was instant You saw number 11 flying around he had three sacks for stumble Just look like one of those Georgia defensive linemen that you're like, oh, yeah, that's why they've won that back-to-back national championships because they can do that and And in the offensive line was was rolling.
00:17:58
nextguyup
Trevor Etienne played well um and you know, kind of took the ball out of Carson Beck's hands as far as like making him have to be the guy who beat you. And that's been Georgia's recipe for success.
00:18:11
nextguyup
um So to me, this was like. I don't know, since the second half of the the Bama game, Georgia has been building back to who they normally are, and that's where I'm
00:18:19
Zack
Yep.
00:18:25
nextguyup
I kind of teased it in the discord, but I'm, I'm making a futures parlay. And I think I'm, I think Georgia, I think Georgia is about to roll in my opinion. I think we're about to see like 2022 style Georgia.
00:18:34
Zack
Could be.
00:18:40
Zack
Hope not.
00:18:44
Zack
For Tennessee's sake, yeah, CarSpec through three interceptions in this game.
00:18:45
nextguyup
Yeah. Yeah. They still won by 15.
00:18:52
Zack
that's That's crazy as that.
00:18:55
Zack
Three interceptions in a quarterback does not usually equal a win against the number one team in the nation on the road. But here we are.
00:19:03
nextguyup
No.
00:19:05
Zack
um So you mentioned the halftime of the Georgia-Bama game where Georgia has since been playing much better. On the other side of that argument is an Alabama team who in the
00:19:14
nextguyup
Mhm.
00:19:22
Zack
what 14 quarters since has lost two games and has looked overall very poor. And so our other big game of the week that involved some top teams was Tennessee hosting Alabama, number seven Alabama in Neland Stadium. Obviously, this was a big one for us. I had some friends at the game. They said it was an electric atmosphere.
00:19:45
Zack
A lot of people that were there. What a what a star studded group of people that were at this game. I don't. um I just saw on online.
00:19:56
Zack
um There were some VFLs that were there in attendance. Alvin Kamara made a. Post game interview appearance, jumped in, I saw the likes of Albert Hainsworth, Al Wilson, Dante Stallworth,
00:20:06
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:20:14
Zack
Jared Garantano, shout out to my guy.
00:20:16
nextguyup
Shout out. Didn't know he was allowed on campus.
00:20:19
Zack
Trey Smith was there. Darnell Wright was there. I mean it was like a who's who of Vols in the NFL all showed up to this game.
00:20:29
nextguyup
Mm-hmm.
00:20:30
Zack
I'm supporting the recruit section.
00:20:34
Zack
I did a little bit of research about this one because I was curious and I was following. So the end of this game, if if you're not aware, Tennessee wins this 24 to 17. There is a delayed field storm. On my section of Twitter, a lot of people were like, let's not storm the field. Let's act like we've been here.
00:20:34
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:20:57
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:20:57
Zack
Oh, you know, this is not the first time we beat them in 15 years like it was last time. What's that code been here? And after the game, it kind of seemed like that was the case. Everyone was in their seats. And then you see one section of people run onto the field near the end zone. um And then all of a sudden, it's kind of like a a flow. So it turns out that section was the recruits. That the section of recruits you see right in the end zone They were the first ones onto the field in the field storm and then everyone else came after. Uh, weird, a little bit of an interesting story there because it seemed like everyone was pretty content on just staying in their seats and then the field storms, the goalposts come down. Uh, they did not make it out of the stadium this time. Like they did at Vanderbilt in 2022.
00:21:46
Zack
ah But a pretty fun environment. They're pretty electric. I've been new and things been pretty ah Last two weeks has has I would say greatly impacted those two games if anyone's from Anyone that was there at the game and new and this week will tell you that The i've I've already listened to a few people that were there talk about it that they the crowd impacted the game pretty significantly I think Jalen Milrow looks pretty bad
00:21:59
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:22:16
Zack
He was out of his element. He he couldn't get things figured out. Ryan Williams targeted 18 times.
00:22:26
Zack
The next highest target count was like four for their second highest wide receiver.
00:22:29
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:22:31
Zack
I mean, it got to a point where it was like everyone knows where the ball is going there because they ran it like how many times do they run the ball? I don't have this that in front of me. Like less than 10 like true runs.
00:22:42
Zack
That's probably not true.
00:22:43
nextguyup
Yeah. From the running back. Yeah. They, they depended a lot.
00:22:44
Zack
They did not run it very much.
00:22:46
nextguyup
No, they were really depending on Millrow to kind of, I truly think part of their offensive plan this week was. let Milrow kind of run around in the pocket and when a lane opened up, let him take it.
00:22:58
nextguyup
And UT's defensive line did a great job of staying in there and their rush lanes and not letting Milrow break out and bust him for, you know, those long runs that he's kind of known for.
00:23:01
Zack
ay
00:23:10
nextguyup
um I'm looking now though, I mean, let's see.
00:23:12
Zack
No row had 11 rushing yards, I know Yeah Hmm how many totally rushing yards
00:23:16
nextguyup
Jam Miller had 12 rush attempts. Justice Haynes had eight, so 20 attempts between their two starting running backs and then 14 more for Milra.
00:23:31
nextguyup
75.
00:23:33
Zack
Mm-hmm. There you go.
00:23:36
nextguyup
Sacks take away from rush yards though, so if there's any sacks that helps, yeah.
00:23:38
Zack
Yep. There were decent amount of sacks. Yeah. um Defensive. If you look at the PFF grades for this team, which we know are sometimes hit or miss, seven of Tennessee's top 10 rated players were defensive linemen.
00:23:58
Zack
which is pretty wild considering you usually only have five other field of design that you've got seven guys who rated in the top 10 on the team.
00:24:00
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:24:05
Zack
Will Brooks, number one in the ring.
00:24:07
nextguyup
I gotta, I gotta ask. Will Brooks, eight tackles, five solo, one tackle for loss, and the game ceiling pick.
00:24:12
Zack
Oh my gosh.
00:24:15
nextguyup
ah What's this kid gotta do to get a scholarship around here?
00:24:15
Zack
Yeah. that's That's a great question. You know, he had a pick six against NC State as well. He had a game had a touchdown saving tackle earlier in the game against Millrow, a shoestring tackle where Millrow was 100% in the end zone, if not. And then that's truly, I'm sure he's getting enough NIL money that he is he's feeling pretty good right now.
00:24:42
nextguyup
Yeah, I mean, he's a senior. So at this point, what's scholarship going to do for him?
00:24:48
Zack
He was, I know this story has been talked about a good bit, but he grew up in Birmingham, Alabama. i think his I think his family was an auburn were Auburn fans as far as i as far as I know, but he did not get an offer to play at Alabama, came to Tennessee, and walked on.
00:24:58
nextguyup
Household.
00:25:06
Zack
He did his time. He's a senior, and he's in the right place at the right time. Not the greatest athlete on the field by any stretch, but man, he's been an asset for the team this year.
00:25:17
nextguyup
And he's been here for both times to beat Bama.
00:25:17
Zack
He's come up in some big...
00:25:21
Zack
That's true. He's a Bama killer. um This guy, is a he's ah he's a fun story.
00:25:27
Zack
The team really likes him. He's if he's an awesome guy. Shout out to Will Brooks stealing the game. ah Fun game.
00:25:28
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:25:37
Zack
Offense, obviously. Okay, let's start here.
00:25:37
nextguyup
It was.
00:25:39
nextguyup
Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:40
Zack
The first half was not fun game. The first half was pretty much torture for both teams, I think.
00:25:42
nextguyup
No.
00:25:47
Zack
Alabama goes in the locker room as a seven to zero up seven to zero but after they had they had squandered a couple of offensive opportunities are intercepted at the like five from the five-yard line um to negate a touchdown there.
00:26:06
Zack
they just They missed a lot of opportunities. Tennessee missed two long field goals on some ah similarly very good opportunities.
00:26:08
nextguyup
I think so.
00:26:13
Zack
Pretty just absolutely just gross first half of football. Second half, things settled down. Nico, who is who looked pretty pedestrian for most of the game, hit a couple of...
00:26:26
Zack
At this point in Nico's career, he's like, He is either absolutely dead on or he is. Overthrowing. I mean, it just seems like he's so close to, to getting everything clicked in.
00:26:40
Zack
And when it does, I can throw to Dante Thornton down the sideline was just absolutely perfect. The throw to Brattle on the end zone was also perfect. But then he overthrew a couple of people pretty bad in the first half.
00:26:52
Zack
So he's still a work in progress for sure. But I think he's close.
00:26:57
nextguyup
yeah
00:26:58
Zack
I think he will get there.
00:27:01
Zack
I'm glad that he had a couple of good throws or else the vault nation was pretty close to, uh, riding, I think at some point. Offense was disgusting in the first half. It was truly just horrendous to watch.
00:27:15
Zack
Here we are. It'll be Florida Bama consecutive weeks and Tennessee is firmly in the playoff conversation at this point.
00:27:19
nextguyup
Yeah. Yeah. yeah Definitely definitely needed it um with Georgia coming up and you know, it's just It felt like it was a game.
00:27:33
nextguyup
We belonged in and we just were making some tough decisions bad decisions at times ah But at the end of the day freshman quarterback, I know he's a redshirt and all that and you can say whatever you want um We're gonna have to go.
00:27:45
Zack
it's eighth game.
00:27:46
Zack
Yeah.
00:27:47
nextguyup
It's yeah, it's this eighth game.
00:27:48
nextguyup
We're going through some growing pains And to be at the spot that we're in now even though
00:27:50
Zack
Definitely.
00:27:54
nextguyup
We do have a freshman quarterback, like, Hey, this is, we're, we're ahead of, we're ahead of schedule here. Program wise, like we're, we're fine.
00:28:01
Zack
Yep.
00:28:03
nextguyup
Um, and the SEC is just wild. I just truly think I've said it six teams.
00:28:07
Zack
Weird stuff.
00:28:09
nextguyup
I think that was a little too bold of a prediction a couple of weeks ago. And I said that, but I don't see how we don't get five, five.
00:28:15
Zack
it um We're going to do some playoff talk in a second. I don't know.
00:28:19
Zack
I'm
Deep Dive into SEC, Big Ten, Big 12, ACC Playoff Chances
00:28:20
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:28:20
Zack
nervous. I think four could be more realistic at this point.
00:28:22
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:28:24
nextguyup
Yeah, four solidly, but I think a fifth sneaks in there. But yeah, yeah, like I said, we'll we'll'll do some playoffs talking a second.
00:28:29
Zack
Well, I don't know. We'll i see.
00:28:33
nextguyup
But I mean, it was, there's a lot of good games in college. I honestly, I know last week was the week that everyone kind of hyped up for a long time, like clear your schedule, October 12th, like this is going to be the best weekend of college football.
00:28:45
nextguyup
And it was good. Great games.
00:28:46
Zack
ye
00:28:48
nextguyup
This weekend might've been better. top to bottom.
00:28:50
Zack
oh
00:28:51
nextguyup
um i was lot i've I was on vacation last week. um So it got to be a little bit more locked in the normal, but frat like Friday night games were all like, it was a fun slate with BYU.
00:28:59
Zack
ah hi Well, not the Oregon game, but...
00:29:03
nextguyup
No, I didn't even watch the second of the Oregon game. ah But that BYU Oklahoma State game was fun. ah Late night, i was I was up late Saturday night. I was watching UNLV versus Oregon State.
00:29:15
nextguyup
That was a good game.
00:29:16
Zack
Wow.
00:29:18
nextguyup
mostly just because I took UNLV live minus five and a half and had the fight for it for a little while. But I mean, it's a good weekend of football. I mean, there's from the 11.
00:29:26
Zack
Fun.
00:29:28
nextguyup
all day Saturday, it was good. Like sometimes there's like that little stretch or like, you know, I might, might take a little cat nap here. Oh, I can, I can do a quick little house chore errand like, Oh yeah, don't worry, babe.
00:29:36
Zack
Yeah.
00:29:42
nextguyup
I'll fold those, that little bit of laundry right there.
00:29:43
Zack
no
00:29:44
nextguyup
I'm just doing it because the good slate's about to kick off.
00:29:47
Zack
Yeah.
00:29:47
nextguyup
Like I gotta, I gotta help out for a second.
00:29:47
Zack
Yeah. You can say you did something.
00:29:50
nextguyup
Yeah, but this Saturday I was like, sorry, I'm, I'm locked in.
00:29:53
Zack
I'm logged in.
00:29:53
nextguyup
This, it's not ending.
00:29:56
nextguyup
There's not a second to breathe right now.
00:29:59
Zack
Throw the kids outside. They'll be fine.
00:30:01
nextguyup
They'll figure it out.
00:30:05
Zack
Okay. We're going to get into categories in a second. We do have some NFL talk about as well. um Mason's not here. So, oh yeah. Mason is not with us today.
00:30:17
nextguyup
RIP Mason for the day.
00:30:18
Zack
Actually, he's right here. Here's some NFL talk from Mason. I'm just kidding. Uh, Mason could, couldn't be here today. That's okay. So in honor of that, we are going to hit a little bit of college football heavy probably today. Um, before we get to our categories, I'm going to start i'm starting a new segment. It's not going to, we're not going to sit on it for a long time because I know that the playoffs right now it's, it's mid season. A lot of people are are not wanting to think about playoffs too much yet, but it's time.
00:30:47
Zack
We do a little bit, I'm gonna call this segment playoff potential. These are teams that are potential playoff teams that still have it in their schedule and in what I believe in there in themselves to make a playoff spot. So we're going to go conference by conference and we're gonna see, I'm gonna give a prediction of how many slots I think are available and how many teams are still fighting for those amount of slots.
00:31:13
Zack
ah Let's just start with the SEC because I think it's the it's the easiest one to talk about because um Well because all the teams have a loss now Every SEC team has at least one loss only two teams have no SEC losses That would be LSU and Texas A and&M a fun fact they play next week So only there will be only one after that One of those teams will be undefeated SEC and one will be with everyone else. So let's do a quick playoff potential for the SEC. Here are the teams in my playoff potentials. We have Texas, one loss. Georgia, one loss.
00:31:54
Zack
Tennessee, one loss.
00:31:57
nextguyup
Mm hmm.
00:31:58
Zack
A and&M, one loss. LSU, one loss. Missouri, one loss. By my count, that is six SEC teams fighting for, in my opinion, about four spots, four playoff spots.
00:32:13
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:32:13
Zack
um It's about to get crazy there. There's a potential for some for some wild stuff to be happening. ah So that's SEC. Let's go to Big 10 really fast, because I think there's some also some interesting stuff happening there.
00:32:26
Zack
ah Playoff potential.
00:32:28
nextguyup
Some confusing stuff for me.
00:32:30
Zack
In the Big 10. Oregon undefeated.
00:32:36
Zack
Ohio State, one loss against Oregon. Definitely there. We've got Indiana undefeated.
00:32:46
nextguyup
Six and oh.
00:32:49
Zack
Wild stuff there. um And then you have Penn State also undefeated. So from my from my perspective, there are four teams fighting for a max of four spots.
00:32:57
nextguyup
That's the tough one for me.
00:33:06
Zack
I mean, is there even another team in the conversation in the big 10?
00:33:11
nextguyup
No, I mean, we had like the.
00:33:11
Zack
Illinois, Illinois is one loss.
00:33:15
nextguyup
Oh.
00:33:15
Zack
If there was another team, it'd be Illinois who just put pulled off a big win against Michigan.
00:33:22
nextguyup
Yeah, that's not a big win. Michigan sucks. I know, I know you've been fighting for Michigan, but I mean, i so Illinois lost a Penn State.
00:33:24
Zack
I know, but. Illinois. Right, and the seven point is a 14 point game. No, it was, yeah, 14.
00:33:38
nextguyup
Yeah, they covered.
00:33:38
Zack
Um, they've got, they've got at Oregon this week, so they're going to prove it. If they lose, they're probably out, but yeah.
00:33:43
nextguyup
Okay.
00:33:46
nextguyup
Yeah, I was gonna say, I think Illinois has got a pretty tough schedule.
00:33:49
Zack
Uh, I guess Wisconsin is maybe the other frisky team. There are two losses. Um, they're not bad losses. And so they lost the USC and Bama.
00:33:58
nextguyup
I don't know if if Illinois loses or if Illinois beats Oregon, the rest of their schedules actually cake.
00:34:01
Zack
So.
00:34:08
Zack
I mean, I think Illinois, a two-dose Illinois team whose only losses are Penn State and Oregon are going to have an interesting conversation there.
00:34:08
nextguyup
It's nothing.
00:34:16
nextguyup
Kind of bid to try to get in.
00:34:18
Zack
Yep. Okay. So there's my teams there. Five teams may be fighting for about four spots from where I'm standing. Some of those teams play each other still.
00:34:27
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:34:29
nextguyup
Yeah, Penn State still has to play. Ohio State, and I don't know if they play.
00:34:33
Zack
Yep. Indiana plays Ohio State as well.
00:34:37
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:34:39
Zack
So.
00:34:39
nextguyup
And Ohio State's not gonna lose all those games.
00:34:42
Zack
You would not expect so. OK, moving to the Big 12, moving to the Big 12, this is the weirdest.
00:34:45
nextguyup
But maybe they will.
00:34:51
Zack
The absolute weirdest group of teams you could ever see here, BYU undefeated. ah We have
Independents and Unexpected Rankings
00:35:00
Zack
a and an Iowa state team who just barely pulled out a win they probably shouldn't have against UCF.
00:35:06
Zack
undefeated a Kansas State team that is looks pretty frisky at times ah with one loss um In my opinion, you've got three teams they're fighting for Yeah, they there I think there's a rowdy where BYU and BYU and Iowa State both go undefeated and play each other for the championship and I
00:35:07
nextguyup
They for sure shouldn't have one and a half spots. I think it depends on who.
00:35:31
Zack
the committee's going to have to make a decision of whether they're going to let an undefeated regular season team in or put like a two loss SEC team in or big 10 team.
00:35:39
nextguyup
Yeah, that's where it gets weird.
00:35:39
Zack
So tune in for that one because that's going to be wild stuff right there. OK, moving on. ACC. This is the most clear cut of the conferences.
00:35:51
Zack
Well, let's maybe not. ACC has Miami undefeated. Frogs, but undefeated. They had another one one score win this week against Louisville.
00:36:05
Zack
You've got a Clemson team who's been rolling since a bad loss against Georgia in the first game of the season. And you have... Tim, do you know who else is...
00:36:17
Zack
Who's number three in ACC? Do you know?
00:36:19
nextguyup
Pitt.
00:36:19
Zack
Pittsburgh. Undefeated. who is completely on no one's radar, but their schedule has been very bad.
00:36:24
nextguyup
I got another 142.
00:36:26
Zack
So ah Pittsburgh will be playing some actual competition coming up soon and we will see if they are for real or not. Not convinced on that one.
00:36:34
nextguyup
You also have you also have SMU, who's six and one undefeated in the ACC, whose whose schedule finishes like this, Duke, Pitt, Boston College, Virginia, Cal.
00:36:38
Zack
There you go.
00:36:47
Zack
Sheesh. There you go.
00:36:50
nextguyup
Zach, they could go, they could go undefeated in the ACC and SMU Miami could be a real thing.
00:36:54
Zack
SMU, Miami.
00:36:59
Zack
Clemson's also undefeated in this in the ACC. Who wins the tie burger?
00:37:04
nextguyup
I don't know.
00:37:07
Zack
I don't know either. That's wild stuff.
00:37:09
nextguyup
We, we, uh, that's some, some, somebody find us a tiebreaker cause they don't play like Clemson doesn't play them.
00:37:10
Zack
So am I looking into that?
00:37:18
Zack
Clemson
00:37:19
nextguyup
they both play They both play pit.
00:37:22
Zack
OK, so there will be at least some answers there.
00:37:26
Zack
So there from our estimation, then you've got four teams fighting four.
00:37:27
nextguyup
Gosh, VCC is crazy.
00:37:32
nextguyup
They're one and a half spots to me too.
00:37:32
Zack
Unfortunately, I think i think AC's going to send two teams.
00:37:35
nextguyup
I think so.
00:37:36
Zack
I think it's going to be Miami and Clemson, if I had to guess. I think they're the best two teams. But that's where we're at. ah So let's go elsewhere out of the big four. We obviously have a G5 team making it.
00:37:49
Zack
um Let's do a quick army-navy talk here because, boy, so army-navy's been in in the news. They're ranked 23 and 25.
00:38:00
Zack
They both had blowout wins. Let's let's do a quick schedule lookup because I was curious as to this army-navy schedules. Are you ready, tens?
00:38:12
nextguyup
ready
00:38:12
Zack
This is army schedule so far. Lehigh, FAU, Rice, Temple, Tulsa, UAB, East Carolina.
00:38:25
nextguyup
Yikes.
00:38:25
Zack
Esther 7 wins. Coming up, Air Force, North Texas, Notre Dame, UTSA, and then Navy. ah Let's do a similar thing just really fast, just for reference sake, but for Navy.
00:38:43
Zack
um Navy's scheduled thus far this season because now everyone's talking about Army Navy Bucknell Temple Memphis UAB Air Force Charlotte They play Notre Dame this next week Rice South, Florida Tulane East Carolina Army Guys I don't don't know what we're doing with this I I know they're both undefeated I get that it's an interesting conversation to have I
00:38:58
nextguyup
if
00:39:05
nextguyup
Yeah, Memphis is a good win.
00:39:15
Zack
I think the reality is they're both gonna lose to another game.
00:39:20
Zack
um Because I just don't, I think their style of football is is fine when you're playing teams like Bucknell.
00:39:24
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:39:28
Zack
I don't think it's fine when you're playing real football teams.
00:39:32
nextguyup
real athletes.
00:39:32
Zack
No offense to the service academies, but here's where we are. Okay, I should get that off my chest, I'm sorry. So let's talk about G5 representation, I think.
00:39:44
Zack
um and Unless something crazy happens, it will likely be Boise State. um They have a three-point loss to Oregon. Other than that, they've played very well.
00:39:55
Zack
There is an outside chance that an Army Navy goes undefeated, beats Notre
Playoff Chaos and Eligibility Debates
00:40:00
Zack
Dame, and then wins that game and gets in, wins their game against each other. I think that would be pretty shocking to me.
00:40:09
nextguyup
Oh, look out.
00:40:09
Zack
I think it's Boise State's to lose.
00:40:10
nextguyup
I mean. Boise State playing UNLV this Friday night.
00:40:12
Zack
That's me, though.
00:40:14
Zack
It was a big one because UNLV has been pretty frisky as well.
00:40:15
nextguyup
That's a big game.
00:40:18
Zack
Yeah.
00:40:18
nextguyup
Yeah, there's six in one.
00:40:20
Zack
Their loss was not as good as Boise State's loss, I don't think, but.
00:40:24
nextguyup
I don't think I think they lost like in conference in the in the Mountain West, because that's that's where they're at.
00:40:31
Zack
um The other non-Power4 team that is on the radar of everyone would be Notre Dame.
00:40:37
nextguyup
Syracuse, yeah.
00:40:41
Zack
Notre Dame had a bad loss to and NIU. Other than that, their schedule is pretty soft. I mean, they have to play Army and Navy, but they'll be heavy favorites in both those matchups. Like we said earlier, there are 13.5-point favorites this week.
00:40:54
Zack
And so I think there is a very, very high probability that Notre Dame will make the playoffs, unfortunately for everyone.
00:41:00
nextguyup
they They lost to an and NIU team that has since lost to Buffalo, Toledo, and NC State.
00:41:11
nextguyup
So, that's that's that is an abomination. How how are you gonna lose to not even the Mac school that's going to win the Mac? But here we are, Notre Dame doing Notre Dame things.
00:41:23
Zack
That's a great question.
00:41:26
Zack
Notre Dame doing Notre Dame things, which just includes not joining a conference even after everyone else is combining conferences. But she was like, I think we're going to see this one out.
00:41:38
nextguyup
at This point I hope they join like the Pac-12 they joined like the worst power five conference, you know They play a lot of those Mountain West schools Just go join them.
00:41:39
Zack
Shout out to them, I guess.
00:41:45
Zack
I think it's practically the schedule they're playing, though. I mean,
00:41:53
Zack
I think at this point, here's my take. We should give them a bowl ban until they join a conference. It's not like there's conferences that aren't out there that are like would gladly accept Notre Dame.
00:41:54
nextguyup
That's what the Pac-12 is gonna be.
00:42:07
nextguyup
I
00:42:07
Zack
You don't think the ACC would just, would welcome Notre Dame with open arms at this point?
00:42:13
nextguyup
They'd kick Cal out in a second to get Notre Dame in.
00:42:15
Zack
I think they'd kick most of the teams out. I just, it's at this point, it's just because they don't They want to be able to schedule whoever they want to schedule and not have to deal with playing tough teams on a regular basis. This has never been a secret.
00:42:27
Zack
It's just what's happening. And now in this playoff era, it's just becoming more and more just annoying for everyone else.
00:42:31
nextguyup
It's more like important, yeah.
00:42:34
Zack
It's just the most frustrating thing. So shout out to Notre Dame for their playoff ban until they become. I mean, even when I joined any conference, I don't care.
00:42:47
Zack
OK, moving on. That is your playoff potential for the week. um I think each week we're going to narrow this down a little bit.
00:42:57
Zack
So pretty interesting stuff.
00:42:58
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:43:02
Zack
By the way, I didn't include Alabama. Maybe we should have included Alabama in the SEC. I still think Alabama has a chance.
00:43:08
Zack
Two of us Alabama team that wins out definitely could still make the playoffs.
00:43:08
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:43:08
nextguyup
as
00:43:13
Zack
They have shown they've got enough juice or they can they can do that kind of stuff.
00:43:14
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:43:16
Zack
So I would not be shocked. The Vandy loss will sit terrible on the resume.
00:43:22
nextguyup
yeah
00:43:24
Zack
And but they do have a winning against Georgia, who is who's looked not bad since then. So that that is to their credit. But the Vandy loss will look very bad.
00:43:36
nextguyup
Yeah, I don't know. I think two losses put some. I think they're in the same boat as Ole Miss like. It's just that it's an uphill battle and I think there's too many other teams that are going to fall in the they deserve a spot category.
00:43:46
Zack
Yep, Ole Miss has two losses as well.
00:43:55
nextguyup
But, I mean, if I guess I agree. If Bama wins out, I don't see how they don't get in. um It's just, there's gonna be some deserving teams.
00:44:02
Zack
Oh, it's going to get messy. There's going to be a lot of two lost teams around the country and someone's not yanking it.
00:44:06
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:44:09
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:44:09
Zack
There's going to be more than 12, one or two lost teams around the country. And there's going to be a serious conversation of who makes it and who doesn't.
00:44:17
nextguyup
and And somebody deserving will get left out and there will be anger in the streets.
00:44:21
Zack
Definitely. It's probably going to be a one loss big 12 team if I had to guess or an undefeated big 12 team.
00:44:29
nextguyup
I think that and I think it'll be a one loss big 10 and the ACC to me, I really think, I really think it's the winner. It's the only one that gets in.
00:44:40
Zack
I see.
00:44:42
nextguyup
Mm hmm. I think I
00:44:43
Zack
They're not going to leave Clemson. I don't think.
00:44:47
Zack
If if Miami just runs the table, I don't think
00:44:51
nextguyup
There's a world Clemson doesn't get in the SEC championship game.
00:44:52
Zack
There's a world where Clemson is left out. It's true. SMU.
00:44:57
nextguyup
ah SMU and Pitt both.
Weekly Upsets and Standout Performances
00:45:00
nextguyup
present that problem where they get in over Clemson.
00:45:03
Zack
Yeah, we're getting ahead of ourselves. a loop I mean, there's so much football to be played, but it is an interesting conversation to have because it's going to become this 12 team is going to get wild.
00:45:05
nextguyup
A little bit, so much football.
00:45:13
nextguyup
Yeah, it's it's definitely going to be, it's going to be hectic to end of the year.
00:45:17
Zack
I think it's it's an even crazier conversation than the four team because there's so much more potential for teams getting left out who are probably deserving.
00:45:21
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:45:24
nextguyup
Yeah, and if if there's teams we've missed that you guys want to talk about, hop on the discord. That's what we've got channels just to come talk about college football. We love talking about this stuff with you guys.
00:45:34
Zack
Yeah, yell at us.
00:45:34
nextguyup
ah we We blow up.
00:45:36
nextguyup
We've got group texts that literally just do this all day where we're just brainstorming about football. um So definitely hop in the discord and talk to us about what is going on and what you think is going on in the college football playoff because it's only going to get more hectic from here until December.
00:45:54
Zack
Definitely. I'll let a Notre Dame fan on this pod to yell at me. Let's have a concert have the conversation. If you're a Notre Dame fan and thinks that Notre Dame not having a conference is good for college football, then come on the pod and we'll debate you. Open invitation.
00:46:12
nextguyup
Yes, I agree. Any Notre Dame fan who's brave enough to hop on here and face us.
00:46:16
Zack
The president of Notre Dame, if you want to come on this podcast and you think you can argue as to why it's a good idea for you to remain conference-less, I'll have that conversation.
00:46:27
Zack
okay Okay.
00:46:30
Zack
Whew. That went pretty long. Huh.
00:46:33
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:46:34
Zack
Okay. Uh, do we want to do some categories quickly?
00:46:37
nextguyup
Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:37
Zack
We can run through them.
00:46:38
nextguyup
Let's knock them out.
00:46:38
Zack
We've already talked about a lot of the games that happen over the weekend, but, um, okay, let's do it.
00:46:39
nextguyup
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:46:43
Zack
Time for your categories. Let's do this first one. Upset of the week. Who you got?
00:46:53
nextguyup
i really I just had Georgia over Texas. um Texas was a five point favorite at home, number one team in the country.
00:46:55
Zack
Yeah, not a lot of upsets.
00:47:00
Zack
Mm-hmm.
00:47:01
nextguyup
I don't i mean i personally thought Georgia was going to win, um but I was in the minority across the world for that, um but I'm glad I thought that and bet that way.
00:47:05
Zack
Mm.
00:47:13
nextguyup
um So yeah, that was that was mine that, like you said, there weren't a ton of like true world shattering upsets. but they were still a few.
00:47:24
nextguyup
And this was one of them, number five, beating number one, especially the way they did it too. It wasn't was a particularly close.
00:47:29
Zack
Sure.
00:47:32
Zack
Agree yeah, I think we can almost call this one a surprise of the week But I think the the score that whenever I saw it I didn't necessarily watch a lot of this game But this one ever I saw it surprised me the most was Florida over, Kentucky 48 to 20 again, maybe not at a huge upset, but that's a surprising 48 points for that Florida team who was just dead in the water earlier in the season.
00:47:47
nextguyup
Mm-hmm.
00:47:56
nextguyup
Yeah, it's like way.
00:47:58
Zack
I mean way turnaround Uh, lagway played well, uh, Kentucky. You can argue Kentucky is just giving up, but that Florida team is. I'm glad we played them last week and not like next week.
00:48:12
Zack
Cause I think that could have been an interesting game.
00:48:15
nextguyup
Yeah, I think they have a little belief in themselves now.
00:48:16
Zack
Yeah.
00:48:18
Zack
Which I did not expect.
00:48:18
nextguyup
um
NFL Highlights and Coaching Tensions
00:48:20
nextguyup
Yeah, I know before the season started, we expected at this point Billy had been fired and they kind of would have been packing packing it up.
00:48:25
Zack
Right.
00:48:27
nextguyup
But ah we touched on it earlier. It's obviously not how the season has gone for Florida. They have performed above our expectation.
00:48:35
Zack
Definitely. Okay, our Disappointment of the Week.
00:48:40
nextguyup
All right, um I went to the big 12 with this one, Texas Tech. Texas Tech is a team that's kind of been, they've been handling what they need to handle this year. They were six and one going into this game, home field advantage, your seven point favorite, I guess a Baylor team that's just kind of meh. And not only do you lose, but you get beat up pretty bad, um two score game at home.
00:49:06
nextguyup
You had, in my opinion, they had the the the Big 12 kind of they're their path in their own hands and they fumbled it. So that was my disappointment of the week. I expected them to handle business and kind of keep trucking towards a Big 12 championship appearance and they ruined it.
00:49:26
Zack
Bummer. All right, this point, week I'm looking towards this Nebraska Indiana game. This was circled on a lot of people's especially ours as being a really interesting big 10 game. And Indiana made it not interesting.
00:49:44
Zack
Pretty fast.
00:49:45
Zack
ah Nebraska, fake, my guy, fake Patrick Mahomes just fell over.
00:49:45
nextguyup
Mm hmm.
00:49:48
nextguyup
Patch of my homes. and
00:49:52
Zack
I mean, he showed that he's a freshman. Indiana proved that they are a team to be reckoned with in the Big Ten. um But as far as disappointment goes, I was just hoping this would be a more fun game.
00:50:03
Zack
It was not fun. It was pretty much over in the first half. um Indiana just ran away with this one. Kind of beat Illinois, I mean, sorry, they beat Nebraska up. um Raul, it never could get going.
00:50:15
Zack
It's just a pretty gross game for ah Nebraska. And that's looked pretty good this season. Indiana just shut him down. So look at world. This was kind of Indiana's coming out party.
00:50:26
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:50:26
Zack
We could have a big ten contender on our hands there.
00:50:32
nextguyup
Yeah. They're there. I think they make the big 10 a little bit frisky. Like as far as that third, third and fourth team getting in their team, you don't want to play in the playoff.
00:50:36
Zack
Definitely. Which I think is what the big ten is needed. Um, the big 10 for the last four or five, I mean, maybe even the last seven or eight years has been so top heavy with Ohio state, Michigan, Iowa has been good on defense in bad everywhere else.
00:50:43
nextguyup
They've been so top Michigan.
00:50:57
nextguyup
Yeah, Penn State trips and falls every year.
00:50:58
Zack
And then you've Penn state usually loses two or three bad games a season. And then other than that, it's like, what are we doing? I think a good team like Indiana being pretty good.
00:51:06
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:51:09
Zack
And then adding an organ makes Spintana a much more interesting product. So pretty fun stuff.
00:51:12
nextguyup
Yeah, for sure.
00:51:16
nextguyup
For sure, definitely adds another element to it.
00:51:16
Zack
Okay.
00:51:19
Zack
Uh, overreaction of the week.
00:51:20
nextguyup
All right, my reaction of the week is two parts.
00:51:25
Zack
Okay.
00:51:26
nextguyup
Brian Thomas Jr. is well on his way of being a top 10 wide receiver in the National Football League.
00:51:28
Zack
oh yeah
00:51:33
Zack
Wow.
00:51:34
nextguyup
He is the next great LSU wide receiver, which in my opinion, LSU is wide receiver you, if you just look across the league, the top receivers all come from LSU. um He is performing better than the top three wide receivers taken ahead of him. Oh, by the way, the Jaguars drafted him at the 23rd overall pick. He is tied for first in receiving touchdowns this year, ninth in receiving yards, and is top 25 in catches.
00:52:03
nextguyup
he is Played seven games in the NFL and is already getting ah Tailed by top ten cornerback Christian Gonzalez followed him all day today in coverage um Which is a big sign of respect in the NFL when I when a corner travels with you When we played the Dolphins Jalen Ramsey did the same thing.
00:52:24
nextguyup
So Brian Thomas jr You are you I'm gonna buy a jersey if it keeps going this way because you are he is shaping up to be
00:52:31
Zack
Uh-oh.
00:52:34
nextguyup
A very, very good player. And I can't wait to see what Ben Johnson does with him next year. Because Doug, you're still getting fired, buddy.
00:52:42
Zack
Wow. Even after the dub today, huh?
00:52:45
nextguyup
Yeah, our schedule goes Packers, like ah Packers, Eagles, Vikings, Lions.
00:52:51
Zack
Hmm.
00:52:51
nextguyup
We're about to get demolished for four straight games and then he'll get fired at the bye week.
00:52:53
Zack
Pretty good teams.
00:52:58
nextguyup
It's an official prediction.
00:53:00
Zack
Hmm.
00:53:02
nextguyup
But hey, we won today, great.
00:53:02
Zack
Okay. Love it. All right. Overreaction of the week. The Alabama dynasty is dead.
00:53:13
nextguyup
Oh, Kaitlyn DeBoer ruined it all at Seven Games.
00:53:14
Zack
ah Listen, here this was I want to take a ah quick victory
Final Reflections and Standout Players
00:53:20
Zack
lap here because in the offseason when every other talking head in the country was saying this Alabama team is top five team, going to the playoffs, they're not going to miss a step, their roster is too good. DeBoer is an elite coach with an offensive mind, he's going to unlock Milro.
00:53:37
Zack
Blah blah blah. ah Here we are. Here we sit. Bama. 0-2 against the state of Tennessee so far this season.
00:53:44
nextguyup
That's right baby.
00:53:45
Zack
um
00:53:49
Zack
This team, as predicted by me by the way, is likely going to miss the playoffs.
00:53:54
nextguyup
You did.
00:53:57
Zack
ah I think there's a chance they go 8-4. I just think this is not a complete team right now. There were some things that happened in the game that just, it's it's hard coming in for a guy like Nick Saban and trying to reproduce things that he's been doing for so long. At the end of the day, the roster, it's important, but that doesn't replicate all the other things that Nick Saban did with that program that made it so successful. um Jalen Milrow proved to be probably not a Heisman contender.
00:54:31
nextguyup
Probably.
00:54:31
Zack
He struggled hard Against I hope everyone cashed out their jail mill road tickets after the Georgia game was over Because I think that ticket is not good anymore.
00:54:32
nextguyup
Good thing I didn't get that bet in.
00:54:42
Zack
I just think um I Mean it's over actually the Bama Dynasty is dead. A lot of a lot of but Bama fans are saying that right now Which is pretty funny. I just I like the
00:54:55
Zack
um from From coming from a Tennessee fan you can appreciate it because Tennessee fans have been doing this for a very long time the past 20-ish years of saying we're just we're cooked and we will never be good again and It will all be forever. Devour still might be the guy for the job, but this as Coaching in the SEC is hard. Winning the SEC is hard. it's Say whatever you want, but SEC is not the same as the Pac-12.
00:55:24
Zack
under any circumstances. It's just, it's a different type of league, different ball game. Um, that is what it is. You can fight me if you want. Come on the episode. We'll talk. That's my reaction to the week. Okay. Moving on. Performance of the week. Performance of the week.
00:55:47
nextguyup
Performance of the week. All right. Um, I went with the ref crew in the iowa state game Uh, iowa state versus ucf. This was a game that iowa state was at home Favored by 10 points and they found themselves in a battle
00:56:05
Zack
Hmm.
00:56:05
nextguyup
A minute left in the game. I actually switched it from the UT game to watch the last minute of this. My wife was like, what are you doing?
00:56:12
Zack
Hmm.
00:56:13
nextguyup
I said, we're we're about the knee out the ball like or it was the Georgia Texas game. I said, that game's fine. I need to see what how this game ends. And I'm glad I did. Iowa State marches down the field.
00:56:25
nextguyup
By March, I mean they got a really bad pass interference call to get them on the one yard line and then proceed to do two QB sneaks in a row from shotgun, which on the second one on fourth and goal on the one yard line, an obvious and blatant false start by the left tackle and left guard. Those guys were literally blocking the defensive line before the ball was snapped. Wasn't called.
00:56:50
nextguyup
touchdown, Iowa State, they win. My wife was like, can they not challenge that? I said, no, that's ball. I said, well, I said, that's Dallas. She didn't get the reference. So I moved on.
00:57:01
nextguyup
um But yeah, no, it was, I was like, yeah, it's just that happens. It's judgment. The ref didn't catch it. They win the game.
00:57:08
Zack
ah
00:57:08
nextguyup
That's how it goes. So shout out to that crew because that should have been a, should have been a flag. And it would have been probably end of game because we would have had a 10 second runoff.
00:57:19
Zack
Wow.
00:57:19
nextguyup
It would have made it like five seconds left.
00:57:21
nextguyup
Like it was. Yeah.
00:57:25
nextguyup
But Iowa state saves their undefeated season with a little help from their friends.
00:57:29
Zack
There you go for now.
00:57:34
Zack
Probably the same crew that keeps covering those Miami games. Bailing them out.
00:57:40
Zack
My performance of the week.
00:57:40
nextguyup
the It is getting bad.
00:57:44
Zack
I'm just going to keep this one short and sweet, but I'm going to pick Illinois. A huge win over Michigan. The whole team. We're picking the whole team here. Big win at home against the Michigan team that we know has been pretty up and down this season.
00:57:59
Zack
Michigan is dead. They're out.
00:58:02
nextguyup
Very dead.
00:58:02
Zack
Officially declared out of playoff contention in Michigan. Illinois, officially in playoff contention still. So a big win by Illinois. ah they're They're keeping the Big 10 interesting over there. Illinois, Indiana.
00:58:15
Zack
Okay. ah Do you want to do highest riser here?
00:58:20
nextguyup
Yeah, highest riser to me is Oregon. Obviously they're now all the way up to number one in the AP poll. And you know this is a team that started out slow in the season, dropped to like 10. People are like, oh, this Oregon team is very overrated. They're definitely not going to get through the big 10. And here they sit ever since ever since that Boise State game where it was kind of back and forth with them.
00:58:46
nextguyup
They've, I've said it a few times, they've kind of figured out who they are and what they want to do. And they're just keep getting better and better at doing it. And this Oregon state or an organ site this Oregon team, I think is very dangerous.
00:58:58
Zack
I agree.
00:58:59
nextguyup
I think they've got a little bit of an easy path here. They could find themselves, you know, in a big 10 championship game against a team that they've already beat or a Penn State team that I don't fully believe in or someone like an Indiana so or Illinois for that matter.
00:59:18
nextguyup
And I think they just are more athletic and have better players in those two teams.
00:59:19
Zack
Yeah.
00:59:22
nextguyup
So this Oregon team could find themselves to have a very easy path to the college football playoffs. And then from there, anything is possible.
00:59:33
Zack
Yeah, I agree. um I think my highest riser is actually going to be an SEC team. We're going to pick LSU here. um LSU beat an Arkansas team on the road. ah Tennessee couldn't beat, by the way. After a bad loss, a loss that looks worse in rush respect against USC to start the season um are six and one.
01:00:02
Zack
ah top of the SEC and they're all of a sudden looking like a team that controls their own destiny and Could end up an SEC championship game. ah They've got a big game against A and&M They've got a couple of big games still coming up, but they're a team that's looking more and more like a playoff contender I think a lot of people were riding them off earlier in the season Okay,
01:00:26
Zack
our biggest fall Team took the biggest downturn.
01:00:36
nextguyup
Yeah, i went with I went with the Falcons here. um Favorites at home, they've been rolling a little bit, and this is your first team that you're playing outside of the NFC South in a minute, and you you get embarrassed at home.
01:00:42
Zack
oh
01:00:53
nextguyup
This isn't a Seahawks team that I think is great. They've kind of lost they've dropped some games that are You know, very winnable. So I thought more of this Falcons team, Kirk, because Kirk Cousins just kind of looked off from the start. And I just think this team can only go as far as Kirk Cousins can go. And when you are a 38 year old quarterback coming off an Achilles tear, I just don't know how far you can take a team all by yourself. Like their defense is just OK, but no one else is really doing anything, stepping up in a big way to help this team win. I mean, you shouldn't have lost that they lost by
01:01:29
nextguyup
more than 10 points at home against the Seahawks. That's just not something that happens to good teams in the NFL. Like NFL games are mostly one possessions, especially at home.
01:01:40
Zack
True. OK. I think for my biggest loser of the week, we just mentioned it, but I'm going to mention it again. I think it's Michigan here. Picked up their third loss of the season. Really did not look good. Their offense is just kind of historically bad. They only put up seven points against an Illinois team. Illinois on a 15-year drought against beating Michigan now. Beat them. I think Michigan is
01:02:12
Zack
Sharron Moore kind of low key on the hot seat.
01:02:17
nextguyup
Mm hmm.
01:02:17
Zack
A pretty low buyout. I think there's there's people questioning whether that was the right decision to hire someone internally versus to go find another big name. Team looks not great, especially offensively, looks very poor.
01:02:29
nextguyup
Yeah.
01:02:33
Zack
So I think that is definitely gonna be a conversation.
01:02:37
Zack
Speaking of, yeah.
01:02:37
nextguyup
Yeah, I agree.
01:02:38
nextguyup
Yeah, I felt they just kind of they put a band aid on the season, knowing probably some suspensions and some stuff's gonna come down from the Conner Stallion and stuff. So they're like, well, we'll just kind of slap it on this guy and then go get our big name after this.
01:02:52
Zack
Yeah, I feel like a placeholder.
01:02:54
nextguyup
Yeah.
01:02:56
Zack
um There's a couple of others, speaking of before to our next half of the week, ah there's a couple of other hot seats around the country. ah We're just going to quickly mention some of them. Hot seat of the week. um I have one. Brent Venables. Chance called this one.
01:03:19
nextguyup
In the summer.
01:03:20
Zack
Yeah, he got a long time ago. Brent Venables firmly on the hot seat.
01:03:23
nextguyup
It's got a joke.
01:03:26
Zack
His offensive coordinator just got fired today. That's breaking news maybe.
01:03:31
nextguyup
Oh, I didn't know that.
01:03:32
Zack
Yeah, I think right before we started recording.
01:03:33
nextguyup
Yeah. You start firing coordinators and ah it's bad.
01:03:35
Zack
are
01:03:39
Zack
um Offensive coordinator for Oklahoma. i'm trying I just lost his name. I could have told you. um He is out for an offense that has looked pretty much as bad as you could possibly imagine. Jackson Arnold, obviously not very good. They have a freshman in recently.
01:03:57
Zack
um Pretty much bad all around. And he's on the hot seat.
01:04:02
nextguyup
Mm-hmm.
01:04:06
Zack
Next up on the hot seat.
01:04:06
nextguyup
Yeah.
01:04:08
Zack
That's Seth Latrell, who's out, by the way.
01:04:10
nextguyup
ah
01:04:12
Zack
Seth Latrell out as the offensive coordinator. tight ends coach will take over. That's probably not good.
01:04:21
nextguyup
Sure. It's going to go well.
01:04:21
Zack
Other teams on the hot seat are coaches. We've got Lincoln Riley, USC. A USC team that people after the LSU game at the very beginning were like, oh, this LSU, this ah USC team can play some defense.
01:04:34
Zack
Turns out they're pretty mediocre. The other team that came from the pack 12 to the big 10 and is struggling They've had a pretty tough schedule to give them some credit but Lincoln Riley all of a sudden of that killed Williams Their team is just looking worse and worse overall
01:04:38
nextguyup
Yeah.
01:04:51
nextguyup
Yeah, he needs to just go be an offensive coordinator in the NFL for one of his. I mean, he's got a bunch of dudes. um Like the Bucks probably have an offensive coordinator job open up after this year, because their current guy's gonna get a head coaching job.
01:05:04
nextguyup
He's done very well with the Bucks. And he's from the McAvay tree. He's on my list. um Don't worry about the list, only I have the list.
01:05:12
Zack
Well.
01:05:13
nextguyup
and but But, Lincoln Riley, get fired, go hook back up with Baker Mayfield as an OC. Just kinda, just do that. He's just not, he's one of these guys that's just not, he's not a head coach.
01:05:23
Zack
Yeah.
01:05:27
Zack
Just has never clicked, hasn't clicked yet.
01:05:29
nextguyup
No, at two big time programs where it should have clicked by now, at least, you know, to have more success than he's had.
01:05:38
Zack
Agree. And Mark Stoops, kind of low-key on the hot seat at Kentucky. I think Kentucky, there something is off there. I just think that the two parties are no longer seeing eye-to-eye.
01:05:53
Zack
I think Mark Stoops really wanted out last year. He tried to go to A and&M, which I think A and&M probably made a good choice there when it all was all said and done.
01:05:57
nextguyup
And it got pulled out from him. Yeah. Yeah.
01:06:03
Zack
I feel like they're on a better, maybe, I don't know.
01:06:08
nextguyup
I don't know. I don't think either one of them are really like, like Elko's whatever, but Stoops is probably just whatever as well.
01:06:14
Zack
I just think Stoops, he's, could retire and be done.
01:06:14
nextguyup
I don't think.
01:06:20
Zack
That's probably what he should do.
01:06:20
nextguyup
Probably, it's probably, yeah.
01:06:22
Zack
Yeah.
01:06:22
nextguyup
Go get him one of these TV analyst jobs, but yeah.
01:06:24
Zack
Did everyone else is doing, we just keep creating TV analyst jobs for coaches.
01:06:27
nextguyup
Go get on a panel of 17 for some reason.
01:06:33
Zack
I just don't, I don't understand whatever. Okay. Uh, next guy up of the week, next guy up of the week, I have one nominee.
01:06:40
nextguyup
All right.
01:06:41
Zack
Um,
01:06:43
Zack
it's going to be the Texas student section.
01:06:48
nextguyup
ah
01:06:49
Zack
Never before has ah as a section changed a call on the field in real time.
01:06:52
nextguyup
Mm hmm.
01:06:57
Zack
Great work.
01:06:59
nextguyup
Mm hmm.
01:06:59
Zack
Much classier than when Tennessee did it, I will say. No mustard bottles on the field. I don't know. ah That's my next app of the week. You single-handedly change an outcome of a play with your actions.
01:07:12
nextguyup
By yourself, that is a good one. You're going to end up getting my vote. I'll go ahead and throw out my nomination because that that's a good one. ah Marcus Mariota, if you watch the QB QB series on Netflix, you know that this guy was ran out of the Falcons organization kind of retired. ah Like he kind of quit on his team and was like, I'm done with you guys. And went and hid for like half a season at home. And then like was magical on the Eagles last year as a backup. It's a very weird situation because the Falcons like never actually cut him. So I don't know, weird, weird thing. But he's found himself as a journeyman backup quarterback now. He is on the Washington commanders
01:07:57
nextguyup
ah Team Jane Daniels looks like he's okay, but they kind of held him out for the game. He got hurt very early Marcus mariota comes in throws for 205 yards two touchdowns going 18 for 23 pretty good day You know shout out the the the flying Hawaiian the flying pineapple Marcus mariota was fun to watch back in the day
01:08:12
Zack
Pretty good.
01:08:18
Zack
It was.
01:08:22
nextguyup
ah Kind of rocky end of his career here the last few years But it was fun seeing him out there in the Jane Daniels kind of style offense Even the commentators were like if you looked at a scouting report coming into the NFL Draft when Marcus Mariota is coming out You'd probably see a lot of the same things that you see about Jane Daniels Um, so I don't know.
01:08:43
nextguyup
Marcus Marietta was always just one of those guys, even though he played for the Titans. I liked watching him.
01:08:48
Zack
Yeah.
01:08:48
nextguyup
He was very exciting. So it was fun watching him today. Put up a 40 burger on the Panthers. Shout out to the Panthers. You guys are terrible. You guys suck. Uh, the Andy Dalton experiment is over like,
01:09:01
nextguyup
At this point, Andy's got to be like, dude, put me back on the bench. I didn't sign up for this. I'm not trying to get beat up like this every game. Poor Andy Dalton through for 93 yards today, two picks. ah He's he was just trying to just hold a clipboard and coach up ah ah a young quarterback. He wasn't trying to be. He wasn't trying to be out here like this. um So, yeah, shout out the Panthers. You guys are a dumpster fire and a half.
01:09:30
nextguyup
But I definitely agree. I think the Texas student section should win the next guy up award because they truly.
01:09:35
Zack
Great work, everybody.
01:09:37
nextguyup
They put in some overtime this week. I did not know that that was possible. I've literally never seen that happen.
01:09:42
Zack
I don't think it should have been. Yeah, I don't i don't think that should have happened.
01:09:44
nextguyup
Yeah, I don't think it should have happened either, but.
01:09:45
Zack
Here we are.
01:09:47
nextguyup
Hey, they get an award. So if the Texas university, if you could reach out to, I'll reach out to you and see where you want this.
01:09:54
Zack
Who should we send this to?
01:09:56
nextguyup
Yeah. Y'all got like a captain of the student section, so I can send this to somebody.
01:10:01
Zack
Yeah, make it out to Texas, the whole state.
01:10:02
nextguyup
No Siri, I'm not talking to you.
01:10:09
nextguyup
One sidebar about Texas. I didn't see enough horns down out of Georgia players and fans ah at the game I need more horns down when people are beating Texas.
01:10:14
Zack
Yeah. No.
01:10:17
nextguyup
This is not the big It's not the big 12. We don't we're not protecting Texas like horns down them
01:10:21
Zack
That's true. No. Yeah. Just do it on as much as possible.
01:10:26
nextguyup
That's one of my, like, when you have a celebration like the horns up or the Gator Chomp or the U for like Miami, like, it's one of the best things when the opposing team mocks it in your face.
01:10:35
Zack
Yeah.
01:10:38
Zack
Got to do it back.
01:10:40
Zack
We'll see. Texas has got a tough matchup this week to have a fan base that will definitely do horns down Vanderbilt through at Vandy.
01:10:40
nextguyup
Got to.
01:10:47
nextguyup
Who they playing? Oh, they will. They, get ready.
01:10:51
Zack
Listen, this is a Vandy team.
01:10:53
nextguyup
Better watch out.
01:10:53
Zack
It's frisky. You don't want to play at Vandy these days.
01:10:57
nextguyup
but Vandy didn't cover this week.
01:10:57
Zack
It's death trap.
01:10:59
nextguyup
that Some could say it was a look ahead game. They were kind of just trying to...
01:11:02
Zack
Yeah, they're, they're planning all week for Texas.
01:11:05
nextguyup
there're therere Watch out, Texas. Half that stadium is going to be rocking. The other half is under construction, but that's beside the point.
01:11:11
Zack
That's the fact. And then the other half is also bought by Texas fans who wanted to see them.
01:11:16
nextguyup
True.
01:11:17
Zack
Um, so for the 25% of Fandy fans that are there, horns down everywhere.
01:11:23
nextguyup
Watch horns down all across the stadium.
01:11:31
Zack
Okay. I had a pod.
01:11:33
nextguyup
All right, that I believe that is a pod.
01:11:35
Zack
It's a pod. We'll be back with you on Thursday for a preview of this next week's games. We got some big ones coming at you, LSU A and&M. ah some big NFL games.
01:11:48
nextguyup
Top of the SEC or SEC can't talk.
01:11:50
Zack
Yep. For the first team in the SEC, first place. We will be back with you. Be with us on the Discord. We are on TikTok. We are on Twitter. We're everywhere.
01:12:00
nextguyup
We're everywhere.
01:12:01
Zack
ah Come join us. Be with us. If you have a problem with any of our takes today, come talk to us. We'll have you on the podcast to to discuss it. We're not afraid of anything here. So we hope you guys have a great week.
01:12:13
Zack
We will see you back here on Thursday.