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A Huge Weekend in College Football, Saleh Out in New York, and New Starting QBs in the NFL
28 Plays11 months ago
The boys breakdown some of the biggest news of the week out of the NFL including Saleh being fired in New York and Spencer Rattler and Drake May taking on starting roles. They also cover the biggest college games in a packed weekend of football including Ohio St at Oregon, Penn St at USC, Ole Miss at LSU, and The Red River Rivalry.
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Transcript
Introduction and Weekend Football Preview
00:00:12
Zack
what is up welcome to the next guy up podcast i am here with the boys mason and since we have an awesome episode for you today we have an enormous weekend of football ahead of us this week has been circled by a lot of people as a as one of the best weeks of football like maybe one of the best lineups of college football we've seen in a long time.
00:00:35
Zack
There are some huge, huge matchups around the country, some rivalry games. It is going to be awesome. We're going to break down a bunch of those game three today. The NFL starting to heat up.
00:00:46
Zack
There were some coaching movement, some big news around the NFL.
00:00:49
Mason
if
00:00:51
Zack
ah We some a new starter, potentially a team making a horrible decision.
Life Updates and Personal Interests
00:01:00
Zack
we have We have some fun stuff for you today. um Mason, some food for thoughts.
00:01:05
Mason
I got plenty of them. I'm ready to go.
00:01:07
Zack
Boys, how are we doing today? How are we feeling?
00:01:11
nextguyup
Feeling alive, feeling great. Never better.
00:01:18
Mason
There you go. Short, sweet and to the point. I like it.
00:01:24
Mason
Uh, let's see. what What have I been up to? Oh, I, even though I'm 30, um, I act like a 12 year old. I just got some, uh, Pokemon video games, uh, in the mail. I've been buying some cards. Shout out to Kyle as well over here. Uh, he's been on the pod before, but, uh, nothing, nothing to report except for a ton of football to
Football Trivia Challenge
00:01:44
Mason
get to. I'm ready for it.
00:01:47
Zack
Nice. we have a We've been recovering from a a tough loss over the weekend, ah but we're we're good we're coming back.
00:01:52
Mason
Mm, yep.
00:01:55
Zack
we are We're nearly back, I think.
00:01:58
Mason
Nearly back. I can still taste the pumpkin spice that I mixed up. It wasn't just a, it was a double whammy for me. UT lost and I had to, for one of my punishments, if you missed it last episode, I had to take a lot of kitchen spices and mix them in a pumpkin with some coffee.
00:02:16
Mason
ah but and The boys enjoyed it when I flipped open the wrong side of the lemon pepper and dumped like half half a container in there.
00:02:22
nextguyup
Heck yeah.
00:02:23
Zack
Electric content. Yeah, go watch the tick-tock.
00:02:25
Mason
Yeah.
00:02:25
Zack
It's very funny Still burning everybody Yeah, we did it is an interesting moment coming out of last week in football where so much craziness happened and then all of a sudden you've got a bunch of big games and so part of me's like is Did we get all of our big games last week?
00:02:26
Mason
My throat's still burning from it.
00:02:48
Zack
like are these games are some blowouts now that all the like I The ones that were projected big blowouts all became upsets. Who knows?
00:02:57
nextguyup
It was funny. A lot of people call it an Apple picking weekend. It was the weekend to go make plans and be like, okay, I don't have to watch college football all day. And then five top 11 teams got beat.
00:03:08
Zack
Here we are.
00:03:09
nextguyup
It was a crazy weekend. So yeah, that does make you wonder, like, is this weekend going to be kind of boring?
00:03:13
Zack
Truly wild.
00:03:15
nextguyup
boring Could be.
00:03:16
Zack
Could be. Probably not. There'll be some there'll be some fun.
00:03:22
Zack
definitely Just with the lineup we have I think it's going to be electric so do we Let's why don't we kick off um we are we're gonna break down some some games in a second We're gonna break down some storylines and some things like that I've got a fun little trivia for you, too.
00:03:43
Zack
I think we can kick it off this way. I think be fun um This is gonna be this is really short and sweet, but it's for both of you.
00:03:46
nextguyup
I love a good trivia.
00:03:50
Zack
Maybe we'll take turns I I have in front of me um some some different quarterbacks, and I'm listing their career trajectory, which teams they played for through their career, and you have to pick who you think it is.
00:03:59
nextguyup
Don't like this.
00:04:06
nextguyup
All right, here we go.
00:04:07
Zack
okay Mason, are you alive at this?
00:04:09
Mason
I'm here I'm here for it.
00:04:11
Zack
like I'm going to let 10s go first. Are you ready?
00:04:14
nextguyup
I apologize to the people from my voice. I've been out grounding all day, sucking in dirt.
00:04:20
Zack
Mmm working in the mud who Literally is in the streets Driving shout out to our boy tens.
00:04:20
nextguyup
I sound terrible. I know I do. I'm out here in the streets.
00:04:30
nextguyup
Started driving today.
00:04:31
Zack
Yeah, it's a big time a cough drop over there.
00:04:31
nextguyup
Yeah, it's been, yeah, it's going to be some adjustment for a little bit here, but, uh, yeah, so I need to learn how to breathe only in my nose because I feel like The back of my throat is dry as the desert.
00:04:48
nextguyup
I need something.
00:04:48
Zack
It's my get him a cough drop
00:04:52
Zack
Okay, 10, so this quarter but this quarterback went from Green Bay to Seattle Seahawks to your Tennessee Titans and ended with the Indianapolis Colts.
00:04:52
Mason
Get a cough drop sponsor. Yes, go ahead.
00:05:08
Zack
Four teams.
00:05:10
nextguyup
That's Hasselback, Matt Hasselback.
00:05:13
Mason
Wow.
00:05:13
Zack
It is Mahasivac, that is correct.
00:05:14
Mason
Yep. I forgot he was with the Packers.
00:05:17
Zack
That is correct.
00:05:17
Mason
Wow.
00:05:17
nextguyup
Mm-hmm.
00:05:18
Zack
Very good, then. Started off with the Packers, Seahawks, Titans, the Colts.
00:05:19
Mason
Good work.
00:05:21
nextguyup
He went to the Seahawks when Holmgren left the Packers as an
NFL Coaching Changes and Speculation
00:05:27
nextguyup
offensive coordinator to go be the head coach for the Seahawks.
00:05:29
Zack
Mm.
00:05:30
nextguyup
That's why he got that job for a long time because he was Brett Favre's backup for a minute.
00:05:34
Zack
Wow. What a wealth of knowledge you are, 10s.
00:05:37
nextguyup
That is something, you know,
00:05:38
Mason
yeah
00:05:39
nextguyup
I might not be very good at UPS driving quite yet, but football knowledge, I'm your guy.
00:05:41
Zack
He knows ball.
00:05:44
nextguyup
I know a ball.
00:05:44
Mason
I've, I'm afraid I'm going to get smoked in this trivia.
00:05:47
Zack
All right, Mason, you're next. Are you ready?
00:05:48
Mason
Yeah. Okay. All quarterbacks, right?
00:05:51
Zack
Correct. Okay, this one's a longer lineage, so to lock in.
00:05:52
Mason
Okay.
00:05:55
Mason
Okay. I'm locked in.
00:05:57
Zack
There's six teams total.
00:05:58
Mason
Oh, wow. Okay.
00:06:00
Zack
Philadelphia Eagles.
00:06:02
Mason
Okay.
00:06:04
Zack
Los Angeles Rams.
00:06:07
Zack
Kansas City Chiefs.
00:06:11
Zack
Jacksonville Jaguars.
00:06:13
Mason
Mark Bernal.
00:06:14
Zack
Chicago Bears, no. Indianapolis Colts.
00:06:20
Zack
Let me say it one more time.
00:06:21
Mason
ends with the colds.
00:06:23
Zack
Does it tend to now?
00:06:24
Mason
Oh, wait, no.
00:06:25
Zack
I feel confident it tends to now.
00:06:27
Mason
Say one more time.
00:06:28
Zack
What is it? Okay, here we go. Philadelphia Eagles, LA Rams, Kansas City Chiefs, Jacksonville Jaguars, Chicago Bears, Indianapolis Colts.
00:06:41
Zack
I'll give you a hint. The most notable time of his career was with the Philadelphia Eagles.
00:06:47
Mason
It was in a, what's his name? Cobb. I don't remember.
00:06:50
Zack
Nope.
00:06:52
Mason
What was it?
00:06:52
Zack
Super Bowl winning.
00:06:54
Mason
Oh my.
00:06:54
nextguyup
Subro MVP, Nick Foles, he's got a statue in Philadelphia, baby.
00:06:56
Mason
Nick falls, man. Threw me off to with the Chiefs. Was he, he was a backup there.
00:07:01
Zack
Yeah.
00:07:03
Mason
Okay. Look at that. All right. Did Mark Brunel ever play for the Chiefs?
00:07:10
nextguyup
No, you're thinking of Chad Henney.
00:07:11
Mason
ah I think I was too fixated on like too many or one team like the Chiefs.
00:07:12
Zack
That was very tough. I would never have got that.
00:07:17
nextguyup
There's been a lot of Jaguar starters who end up ah being in backups on the Chiefs, Blaine Gabbard and Chad Henny.
00:07:17
Zack
Yeah, that's a lot of teams.
00:07:17
Mason
Yeah.
00:07:22
Mason
I should, I should focus on the, oh, go ahead. There you go. I should have focused on the last three because Nick Folt, yeah, that's where I would have, okay, go ahead. Good work.
00:07:32
Zack
Okay, they they get much harder after this.
00:07:32
Mason
I like this. This is a fun game.
00:07:34
Zack
I need to find some easier ones maybe.
00:07:34
Mason
Oh, great.
00:07:35
Zack
um This for 10s, I will tell you, his first year in the NFL, he is he's in the Hall of Fame. His first year in the NFL was in 1960.
00:07:45
Mason
Mm.
00:07:45
Zack
I would be ultra impressive if he got this, but I think it's this is an interesting little history lesson.
00:07:49
nextguyup
All right, 1960.
00:07:50
Zack
um There's only two teams.
00:07:54
Mason
Wow.
00:07:54
Zack
Sorry, my dog is drinking water right next to me very loudly if you hear a slurping noise. Um, first is the Minnesota Vikings to the New York giants.
00:08:08
nextguyup
Is that Frank
00:08:09
Zack
I'll give you a hint. I've, I literally had never heard of this person before.
00:08:14
nextguyup
Tarkington?
00:08:15
Zack
He's correct.
00:08:16
Mason
Yes. Yep.
00:08:17
Zack
Yep. Tarkinton.
00:08:18
nextguyup
Viking is great.
00:08:20
Zack
Yep. Uh, on the Hall of Fame, 1960 was the start of his career.
00:08:23
Mason
Good job, Tans. Holy.
00:08:26
Zack
Shout out.
00:08:26
Mason
Are you, all are you ultra impressed? Is that, is that the words he used?
00:08:30
Zack
I am. i was That was a pull that I did not as expect, tends to have.
00:08:35
nextguyup
Pretty much any like anything earlier than the 90s quarterback wise for the Vikings that would been my answer because I know he's like a very famous Vikings quarterback because he still has a couple a couple franchise records and a couple like a
00:08:40
Mason
Yeah.
00:08:48
nextguyup
Franchise game records that are like kind of crazy if you look at him considering The time of like when he played and how football's played now, but he's he used to sling that thing around.
00:09:00
Mason
I have one of his sports cards. Fun fact.
00:09:03
nextguyup
Oh We're three dollars and thirty three cents
00:09:03
Mason
Yeah.
00:09:04
Zack
Wow, there you go.
00:09:04
Mason
Yeah. I have to bring it. Correct.
00:09:08
Zack
Okay, last one, Mason. um I think you can do this one. This is also an older one. Not that old. It's not as old as ah Old Tarkenton, I don't think. um We're starting off. Houston Oilers to the Minnesota Vikings to the Seattle Seahawks to the Kansas City Chiefs.
00:09:33
Mason
I think what's throwing me off with the Oilers was the Vikings.
00:09:33
Zack
Houston Oilers, Minnesota Vikings, Seahawks, Chiefs.
00:09:37
Mason
He didn't play for them.
00:09:40
Mason
He, Warren Moon did not play for the Vikings. I don't think that was my guess. Dang it. I don't know it.
00:09:47
Zack
He did, in fact, it was Warren Mann. Yeah.
00:09:49
Mason
Oh, let's go.
00:09:49
Zack
It was not a trick question. Yeah. That's the only Euler quarterback I knew as well.
00:09:51
nextguyup
The Chiefs threw me off because i I thought it was moon but I Didn't know he played for the Chiefs though
00:09:52
Mason
Did he actually?
00:09:53
Zack
So.
00:09:55
Mason
Okay. Hey, I got it right.
00:09:57
Zack
Attaboy. Okay. That was the four ahead.
00:10:01
Mason
Okay, I don't remember the Vikings. There we go. Okay.
00:10:03
Zack
Yep, there you go.
00:10:05
Mason
Is that the most famous Houston oiler? Gotta be, right?
00:10:08
nextguyup
Mm. Maybe Eddie George or see more of a Titan.
00:10:12
Zack
um Now, the that is a good question. I think I'm surprised Eddie George isn't in the Hall of Fame. I was talking to my dad about this because we' we're talking about running back Hall of Fame, the argument about Derek Henry maybe being the last one. And I was kind of surprised that Eddie George wasn't in the Hall of Fame yet.
00:10:31
Zack
um
00:10:31
nextguyup
Yeah. Well, ed Eddie George can get in after Fred Taylor gets in because I think Fred Taylor clears them and everything.
00:10:37
Zack
ah Earl Campbell is probably alongside Warren Moon, the most famous Houston Oilers.
00:10:39
Mason
Hmm.
00:10:42
Mason
Now that's a good one. I was just about to look at it up but very nice.
00:10:44
Zack
Earl Campbell was also a beast. Okay.
00:10:49
Mason
All right.
00:10:50
Zack
Very good, everyone. That's your history lesson for the day from Tins and Mason. Okay. Do we want to do the NFL?
00:10:57
nextguyup
Class is out of session.
00:10:57
Zack
Do we want to start with the NFL talk? What do we feel?
00:11:01
nextguyup
Yeah, let's let's do a little NFL. We did some NFL trivia.
00:11:04
Zack
Some news.
00:11:04
nextguyup
Let's roll right into some NFL news.
00:11:05
Zack
Yeah.
00:11:07
nextguyup
Big week is on top of everything going on in college football. It has been a very chaotic week in the NFL.
00:11:15
Mason
Yep.
00:11:15
nextguyup
um First coach firing.
00:11:17
Mason
if
00:11:18
nextguyup
Somewhat of a surprise, I didn't think so. Robert Salah is out as the Jets head coach after their loss in London. And I feel like we just got a scapegoat situation going on here.
00:11:32
nextguyup
I don't know, Mason. I mean, i I just don't see where the guy who is really that he is the head coach. So it all falls on him at the end of the day. But he is in charge of the defense. He brought in Aaron Rodgers hand picked offensive coordinator.
00:11:46
Mason
Yep.
00:11:47
nextguyup
And you could say that the offense is the side of the ball that is losing them games, one could say.
00:11:54
Zack
Some people are saying that.
00:11:54
Mason
ah Offense was 26 ranked and the defense was fifth ranked and he's a defensive coach.
00:12:00
nextguyup
Yeah.
New NFL Quarterbacks and Analysis
00:12:03
Mason
Uh, can I, uh, bring an MBA like, um, like side to this, if you will, comparison.
00:12:08
nextguyup
Comparison.
00:12:10
Mason
ah When they do a lot of these dream teams and they don't mesh do the ah Big ego star players that just couldn't play together. Do they ever take the fall for this? It's usually the head coach and like I'm a I'm a Lakers fan But like LeBron, I'm sorry is like notorious for like if he can't get it together who usually takes the fall It's all of his head coaches
00:12:34
nextguyup
Probably the terrible head coach.
00:12:37
Mason
I'd like to see, oh, there he is. I'd like to see how many of LeBron's coaches got fired in mid-season or after one season.
00:12:39
nextguyup
Probably not enough of them.
00:12:45
Mason
ah David, do you remember David Blatt, everybody? Well, anyways, so we're getting off topic, but I just feel like this is...
00:12:50
Zack
I think there's a question of, do, are they just hiring those coaches as scapegoats from the beginning? Like, is anyone expecting those guys to actually be successful or are they just hiring because they're soft enough to let LeBron do it every once?
00:13:03
Mason
ah That's probably the case actually, but I'm just saying for the for this it's like you can't fire the quarterback like he's under contract I mean guess you could bench him, but you can't you can't I?
00:13:05
Zack
Like JJ Reddick.
00:13:11
Zack
We could. And what are the odds he actually makes it through this season?
00:13:13
Mason
Guess they could I don't know they're not gonna bench him they spent so much money do what Zach?
00:13:18
Zack
What are the odds he actually makes it through the whole season without getting injured?
00:13:21
nextguyup
He has a high ankle sprain right now. That's true.
00:13:22
Zack
Doesn't seem very high. They just let him take care of himself. Let him play long enough. He's going to be injured. Don't worry.
00:13:29
Mason
So, uh, Zach had like this, the stats earlier in the trivia, uh, the first time, uh, owner, uh, of the jets, uh, during his 25 year tenured, uh, how, how many times has he, uh, fired a coach in season since 1975 zero, uh, Charlie winner.
00:13:29
nextguyup
true
00:13:51
Zack
wow
00:13:53
Mason
Nobody knows who that is was dismissed after two and seven start and replaced by kinship. So there's that for you. Also the defensive coordinator was the one that get the enter coach ah position for this.
00:14:04
nextguyup
Yeah. ah This is just tough. I feel like the Jets are going to, as a locker room, kind of turn on each other a little bit.
00:14:12
Zack
Wow. Hmm.
00:14:15
nextguyup
The defensive players really like playing for Salah.
00:14:19
Mason
Yeah.
00:14:19
nextguyup
And, you know, you could tell him and Aaron just didn't get along.
00:14:24
Mason
yeah
00:14:24
nextguyup
And so, and I don't know why you pick Aaron. He's, he could be a free agent after this year, the way his contract set up. He could very well retire. And you've now mortgaged a lot of your feature into Aaron Rogers, who, who could go run for some political thing.
00:14:43
nextguyup
He could go disappear to Brazil to take ayahuasca for three months.
00:14:49
Zack
Three, three pigs in London.
00:14:51
nextguyup
Three. Yeah. Three, three, two, ah one of them was a pick six to a van ginkle, who's a long haired version of the three of us combined.
00:14:56
Mason
Yeah.
00:15:03
nextguyup
you need to know who that guy is so I don't know I feel like it was an inevitable move I just don't think it's gonna do anything like I don't see this being like something that flips the switch of the team and now they go on a big winning streak like I feel like it's just gonna kind of avalanche on themselves
00:15:11
Zack
Hmm.
00:15:21
Zack
can be.
00:15:27
Mason
And do you remember when Aaron Rodgers decided to like be, not be at training camp for an absence? Yeah.
00:15:34
nextguyup
to go to Egypt.
00:15:34
Mason
Oh, and he, yeah. And Egypt, uh, real quick, uh, they put odds out. We can't bet it here in Tennessee, but jets, uh, next head coach. Do you want to guess who it is? The favorite.
00:15:47
nextguyup
Who would be the favorite?
00:15:50
nextguyup
No, give it to me.
00:15:52
Mason
The favorite is one Ben Johnson, uh, for the, short lines.
00:15:57
nextguyup
No, that's OK.
00:15:59
Mason
Then after that, Bobby Slowick and Mike Vrable at plus 500.
00:16:02
nextguyup
I'm OK with that one.
00:16:04
Mason
I might take that.
00:16:06
Zack
Huh.
00:16:07
Mason
Him and Bill Belichick are like on every team's like next head coach. Everybody just thinks they just took it.
00:16:13
nextguyup
GM head coach combo, yeah, it's gonna happen.
00:16:15
Mason
They just took it. They just took a year off. Everybody get ready for it.
00:16:18
nextguyup
Yeah, it's kind of tough being a guy who might've been hollering about a new GM and head coach combo, because the most popular combo is Vabral, who I really like, but I'm not trying to take Bill of Check as my GM.
00:16:28
Zack
It could be electric, trick honestly.
00:16:36
Mason
Uh, and but somebody, somebody said the jets.
00:16:36
Zack
That could be fine.
00:16:37
nextguyup
No, not as a GM.
00:16:39
Zack
Hmm.
00:16:40
Mason
Well, somebody was like, the jets could pull off the funniest thing ever. And it was like, go Bella check, uh, cropped in a, uh, uh, jets, uh, coaching, like his, his horrible, like eating up half eaten a hoodie that he always wears.
00:16:54
Mason
That's like, cut got the cut like sleeves cut off.
00:16:55
nextguyup
yeah Yeah.
00:16:57
Mason
He's like a multimillionaire and he looks like he's homeless. Um,
00:17:00
Zack
Hmm.
00:17:01
Mason
But everybody was like he they could pull off the funniest thing by hiring him on the offseason and then now the jets They could have revenge on the Patriots Bill Belichick one on one Aaron Rodgers as quarterback Well
00:17:09
Zack
If they go pick him up on a contract, they'll be pretty electric. He could turn Aaron Rodgers around. He's used to coaching aging quarterbacks.
00:17:18
nextguyup
What? What if they just brought him in in season to be the new head coach?
00:17:23
Zack
That's what I'm saying.
00:17:23
nextguyup
Never see that happen.
00:17:23
Mason
That'd be wild that'd be wild
00:17:24
Zack
That's what I was saying.
00:17:26
nextguyup
That'd be awesome.
00:17:26
Zack
That would be awesome.
00:17:27
nextguyup
That'd be the best thing ever.
00:17:28
Zack
The Jets. I mean, could you imagine how hyped the Jets organization would be? Like the fans would be ecstatic about that.
00:17:34
Mason
Could they do that with, oh, that'd be electric.
00:17:34
nextguyup
They play the Patriots in like two weeks.
00:17:37
Zack
Could be fun. Let's make it happen.
00:17:38
nextguyup
Listen, if the if the Colts can bring in Jeff Saturday to be their inter interim head coach who has zero coaching experience, there's no rules.
00:17:45
Mason
I forgot about that.
00:17:46
nextguyup
We can do whatever we want.
00:17:50
Mason
This is a funny time in sports. What was I gonna say? Oh, with the TV contract with Bill, cause he's like on ESPN staff, right? Or whoever staff, does that matter?
00:17:59
nextguyup
You don't care about them contracts.
00:18:01
Zack
i don't I don't know.
00:18:01
Mason
I didn't know enough if that mattered.
00:18:02
Zack
It's whatever.
00:18:04
Mason
It's whatever. It makes so much money.
00:18:05
Zack
You take it pro bono.
00:18:06
Mason
All right.
00:18:07
Zack
Do for free.
00:18:08
nextguyup
All right.
00:18:09
Zack
Just for the vibes. Go beat New England.
00:18:13
Mason
For the vibes.
00:18:14
nextguyup
So first, first coach firing, not the first one I thought was going to happen, but hey, it is what it is. Um, we've got some new quarterback news. Also, we've got two new starters, one due to injury and one due to it's time.
00:18:25
Zack
Hmm.
00:18:31
nextguyup
It's time to throw the rookie out there. Um, you want to do, you want to do the, the injury first down in new Orleans.
00:18:38
Mason
Yes. Yeah. And I was trying to think, was he also, was Spencer Rattler on and Last Chance You? No.
00:18:47
nextguyup
No, he was on that quarterback show.
00:18:48
Mason
What?
00:18:48
Zack
He's on quarterback. Yeah.
00:18:50
Mason
Quarterback Show. Okay. I was trying to remember. Beyond the Lights.
00:18:53
Zack
QB one QB one.
00:18:54
nextguyup
Yeah, QB1.
00:18:54
Mason
QB1.
00:18:55
Mason
Yeah. I feel like, I just feel like we've seen him forever and then he kind of disappeared to be the like the backup for three months and now he's thrown back in our face.
00:18:56
Zack
There's a reason high school.
00:19:04
Mason
but with that and then college and is, ah is wait, Zach's not a Spencer Rattler fan.
00:19:12
Zack
Correct.
00:19:13
nextguyup
I mean, he did he did terrible things to the Vols.
00:19:17
Zack
Correct.
00:19:20
Zack
You know, the the further we've further removed I am from that game. I just, I blame Connor Stallions and the Michigan organization for that loss more than Spencer Redler.
00:19:26
nextguyup
Yeah, there we go.
00:19:28
Zack
I'll stick to that forever.
00:19:30
nextguyup
I get the hate for Spencer Adler, but also at the same time, when you are 18 years old, you're the number one quarterback prospect in the country. And then you get cameras shoved in your face.
00:19:43
nextguyup
You're going to find some bad moments. Like does he have an ego? Yeah, probably. He doesn't seem like the most humble of people. But at 18 years old, you know,
00:19:55
Zack
Hmm.
00:19:55
nextguyup
if we were sticking a camera into Sean Watson's face, or Patrick Mahomes, or I don't know, Bryce Young. I'm sure they've got some bad they'd have some bad clips too.
00:20:07
Zack
Hmm.
00:20:09
Mason
Well, what I was going to say is I was kind of shocked by it because if anybody, we didn't really get to touch on this game, but Derek Carr got hurt at the very end and they actually put in Jake Hayner.
00:20:09
Zack
No.
00:20:20
Mason
And I was expecting him to get the start since he did put, he only got seven, uh, attempts, uh, but he, he played at the very end of that game.
00:20:27
nextguyup
The.
00:20:30
Mason
So I didn't know what they were. Well, go ahead.
00:20:32
nextguyup
what So Rallor's been the emergency third string quarterback, just so he can. So the way the NFL works is you can have three on your roster, but on game day, the third one has to be inactive. So Hainer is the veteran. and They wanted to say if if Carr got hurt during the game, Hainer would go in.
00:20:56
nextguyup
Even though Hainer, he's only been there a year. um But Rattler is gonna start now. He's been taking all the first team reps and he's been getting a lot of time in practice too. They really like him. They they legitimately think he could be like Derek Hart, I think is a cap casualty after this year. Like there's there's a lot of talk to the Saints if their coaching staff stays the same. Like no change at head coach that Spencer Rattler could stick around as the starter. They really like him.
00:21:25
Zack
Hmm, we'll see about that After a couple games
00:21:30
Mason
He just has bad blood against.
00:21:30
nextguyup
will without Connor Stallions sharing the signs for you.
00:21:35
Mason
and Do I, do I know if he's an NFL like ready? He's literally going to be thrown in. I'm not really sure. I guess they just want to see what they have in them now because well, what Derek Carr has one more year on his contract after this.
00:21:52
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:21:52
Mason
So maybe
NFL Game Predictions and Insights
00:21:53
Mason
they're just wanting to see what they got in them over Jake, but we'll, we'll see what happens. I was going to pull up some preseason stats, but sometimes I'm just like, those are skewed cause they're going up against third string defensive players, players that are not even on the NFL roster anymore. So I was like, ah, so there you go. Speaking of a rookie, should we talk, should we talk about Drake May?
00:22:15
nextguyup
Yeah. So Drake may has officially been announced the starter after drawn Mayo has been saying for the better part of two months that Jacobi Brissett is their guy. They have no intentions of Drake may starting this year. Well, after five weeks of the Jacobi Brissett experiment, drawn Mayo said, nevermind. Let's get Drake out there, which I don't know if this is the best move. It's a very bad offensive line.
00:22:42
nextguyup
um You're not you're not doing anything this year. You're not pushing for the playoffs. I get getting Drake in there and You know getting a feel for the NFL but Behind this bat of an offensive line with very mediocre weapons.
00:22:59
nextguyup
Like what's the point?
00:22:59
Mason
Yeah. So have you watched any, wait. Yeah. Have you watched any Patriots games? Did Jags play? Yeah. Jags played them, right?
00:23:09
nextguyup
We know we play him two weeks in London
00:23:11
Mason
Two weeks. Okay.
00:23:12
nextguyup
But I have watched some of their stuff.
00:23:13
Mason
So I've watched some of the pay and it's.
00:23:14
nextguyup
I've bet on them a lot for some reason, like a lot of props. I find myself like with a lot of Patriots wide receiver props.
00:23:20
Mason
Yeah.
00:23:21
nextguyup
So I'm like, what am I do?
00:23:23
Mason
So a lot of the listeners are are going to be like, no, I've not like watched a Patriots game. Why would I do that? But it's, just it's like, I, when I've watched it, it's not just bad quarter. Like it's the whole team.
00:23:33
Mason
It's like, I just feel like you're self-destructing. Like you're putting him in a bad, what is Drake may have to play for at this point? Like he can't bring this team out of a hole.
00:23:45
Mason
They only won one game, right? So they're one and five.
00:23:47
nextguyup
yeah
00:23:48
Mason
And it's like, he's not going to be able to get them out of the hole to give them the playoffs. Or I just, I don't understand.
00:23:53
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:23:54
Mason
Like just go ahead and let them sit like for the whole season. And the whole, the whole fan base knows that this is a lost season and don't throw them in and get them injured. Or he just like we saw Bryce young and how, yes, that's what happened to literally Bryce young.
00:24:06
nextguyup
Rekha's confidence. Because if he doesn't look good, everyone's going to say, you're Mac Jones 2.0. It's like, is it really worth throwing him out there for that? like
00:24:15
Mason
I just don't understand the rush.
00:24:16
nextguyup
is He's young too, he's super young. He's like 21, barely.
00:24:21
Mason
Yeah. If anything, I would put them at the very end when it's like, it's completely done. So, and you can, and maybe some teams are already making it to the playoffs and they're going to bench a lot. I just don't, I'm not an NFL coach, but I'm just like, yeah, I know.
00:24:32
nextguyup
Yeah, I thought maybe last five games, not week five.
00:24:37
Mason
I just, they seemed all in on Jacoby and then, and he's, has he done very, has he been that decent? He's been okay, but the the wide receivers are not good.
00:24:48
Mason
I've seen them run missing routes and dropping balls. And so you're just going to throw a Drake main. They're expecting like a miracle and it's not going to work. So there's that.
00:24:59
nextguyup
But excited to see him, though.
00:25:00
Mason
Oh, yeah.
00:25:01
nextguyup
I like Drake May.
00:25:02
Mason
Uh, I know you've been high on them. I think you were higher on them than Jayden Daniels was like in the off season, I think.
00:25:04
nextguyup
Very.
00:25:08
nextguyup
Yeah, we'll see how good I am at scouting quarterbacks, because I didn't like Jaden Daniels.
00:25:09
Mason
oh
00:25:14
Mason
I think it's just a system fit too. I'm curious to see like what jerk may is going to do.
00:25:18
nextguyup
That's true. Cliff Kingsbury, very good coach.
00:25:21
Mason
Look good in teal apparently. Oh, and the light. We don't really have to talk.
00:25:24
nextguyup
I've never said that about the teal thing. That's you. I don't think he'd wear a tee on the sideline. Probably white. A lot of time white.
00:25:32
Mason
Oh, ah there you go. You just said he won't wear teal and then you said teal and white.
00:25:38
nextguyup
Oh, I said white. A lot of time white.
00:25:40
Mason
Oh, gotcha.
00:25:41
nextguyup
where He seems like a white polo guy.
00:25:41
Mason
Okay.
00:25:44
Mason
Okay, there you go Last thing there was actually three quarterback changes this one We don't really need to touch on too much, but a no Connell they already here.
00:25:54
Mason
Yeah, they traded back over to him. I Didn't feel like I saw like And on the who cares segment nobody I
00:25:58
nextguyup
Who cares of the week? The Raiders quarterback situation.
00:26:08
nextguyup
Who cares about that team? They're freaking disaster. Devontae Adams wants to trade. Max Crosby said, I want to go with Devontae.
00:26:18
nextguyup
So who knows that team's that team is on fire.
00:26:19
Mason
Who knows who cares?
00:26:23
nextguyup
Not a good way.
00:26:24
Mason
All right, good deal. Anything else with the NFL you wanted to touch on? Oh, by the way.
00:26:30
nextguyup
No, I think that's it.
00:26:32
Mason
ah Back to the Jets thing, they fire their head coach and then I'm pretty sure they have a Monday night game and then I'm pretty sure they have a Sunday night game. So that would be interesting.
00:26:42
nextguyup
Oh.
00:26:43
Mason
Perfect timing for them to like decide to do this. ah Yep, Monday night.
00:26:48
nextguyup
Well, they probably get flexed, but they get flexed out of one.
00:26:53
Mason
Out of one of them, they can't flex to this Monday night game already. Like these are the next two weeks. It's Monday night this week and then Sunday night. You think they'll change it already?
00:27:02
nextguyup
No, no, because the Jags game is in London that's we play them in two weeks yeah They can they can start they can start chip Why am I sorry um I got yeah guys mixed up
00:27:10
Mason
Okay, you'll have to double check your sources. Week seven is the Jets and Steelers Sunday night at 720. You're playing the Patriots in London game.
00:27:24
Mason
You're good, but you're in London you got that you got that part, right?
00:27:26
Zack
We'll check the sources, Tins. Come on.
00:27:28
nextguyup
Yep, check my sources, sorry. ah
College Football Weekend Preview
00:27:30
nextguyup
Just checked them, I was wrong.
00:27:30
Mason
You even you even You even told me a couple minutes ago.
00:27:32
nextguyup
Let's talk about the Patriots.
00:27:34
Mason
You're like, yeah, we play that. I was like you guys play the Patriots. Oh, yeah in two weeks That's it's all that driving Okay, there you go, I did not know that fun fact all right
00:27:39
nextguyup
Yeah, Patriots, no. They can start they can start flexing after a week six.
00:27:48
nextguyup
10 days, they have to do like a 10 day notice.
00:27:51
Mason
Okay. It's not bad. All right. You guys ready for some college?
00:27:56
Zack
Oh, are we ready for some college football?
00:27:56
nextguyup
Cue the CBS music.
00:27:58
Mason
Oh.
00:28:00
Zack
oh We teased it earlier. There is a pretty electric slate of games on Saturday. So buckle up. um These are the ones we've been looking ahead towards for a very long time.
00:28:11
Zack
Let's not bury the lead here. There is a serious fraud alert meter going off at a particular game up in Oregon.
00:28:23
Zack
um There are a lot of people thinking this is going to be a very tight game. I'm not one of them. um I think there is a a real fraud in the building and I think somebody is getting exposed.
00:28:37
Zack
I think that one team's gonna walk away with a big win here. But let's talk about it a little bit. We have your Ohio State Buckeyes at Oregon in a Big Ten matchup. ah This is our number two in the AP poll. First number three in the AP poll. Both teams are five and 0. Let's quickly recap their five wins. Ohio State has beat Akron, Western Michigan, Marshall, Mississippi State, and Iowa.
00:29:05
Zack
All of them have been very convincing wins. Great for them. Shout out to the Ohio State schedule makers. ah Next, you have your Oregon Ducks. They struggled against Idaho and Boise State.
00:29:19
Zack
Darn near lost to Boise State in week 237-34.
00:29:19
nextguyup
Hey, boys, the state's got the next hall of fame running back.
00:29:23
Zack
They beat Oregon State. Boise State could be a playoff team still. That is true. ah UCLA as is a win and Michigan State is a win as well.
00:29:35
Zack
Shout out to Michigan State for already playing Ohio State and Oregon.
00:29:39
nextguyup
Just get it out of the way.
00:29:39
Zack
What a bummer of a schedule they have. So we have two teams who I think most people would agree have largely been untested. Oregon and Dylan Gabriel as quarterback kind of started off much slower.
00:29:53
Zack
Ohio State has kind of just ran over every team they face so far without a lot of opposition. um They have Judkins at running back who has been tearing it up a good bit. No, no real superstars on that roster doesn't feel like like last year. It felt like he
Ohio State vs. Oregon Analysis
00:30:09
Zack
had Marvin Harrison Jr. You had a couple of big highlights. I mean, same with Oregon. Dylan Gabriel was the was a preseason Heisman favorite. He's still in the conversation. I guess if they win this game ah both teams.
00:30:23
Zack
This has kind of been the matchup we've circled because both teams' schedules were so soft in the first bit of the season. So, um Tins, how do you feel about this game?
00:30:33
nextguyup
Um, I, I like Oregon. I think it took them a game and a half to start the year to kind of figure out their identity. And I think they figured it out a lot more quick game, running the ball more, playing solid, solid defense. Um, they're not the same sling it as much as they did with Bo Nicks. Dylan Gabriel isn't, is a good athlete. So.
00:30:59
nextguyup
I like what I've seen out of Oregon since they've kind of figured out what they want to do and settled into who they are. So I really, I really, I still like this Oregon team. I was pretty high on them coming into the year. I didn't like how things started, but I liked the way it's been heading and I've watched some of this Ohio state team and maybe it's just cause their spreads are so ridiculous. They're so big that I've missed betting on them because they're like, I took them,
00:31:27
nextguyup
against Marshall. Marshall scored 14 points and I still didn't cover the spread.
00:31:29
Zack
yeah
00:31:32
nextguyup
um But I don't know, I'm missing that firepower with Ohio State that I normally get. Like I don't feel like they've, I mean, they're they're pretty high on this this ah freshman Jeremiah Smith.
00:31:43
Zack
Yup. He's their star power for sure.
00:31:45
nextguyup
He's played very, he's their he's our star power, but at the end of the day, true freshman wide receiver in Oregon was with a quarterback I don't trust.
00:31:46
Zack
Yeah.
00:31:53
nextguyup
I don't think Will Howard is great. I think Oregon does have a good home field advantage.
00:32:00
Zack
weird yeah correct really
00:32:01
nextguyup
um i know I know it's Ohio State minus three. I think this game is truly a push, like a pick them. And i ah yeah, I think that if they played on a neutral field, it would come down to the wire.
00:32:17
nextguyup
I do give Oregon the advantage with home field.
00:32:21
Zack
ah
00:32:21
nextguyup
I think I'll be rocking up there first true big 10 game. So I like Oregon.
00:32:28
Zack
Over Under is 55 and a half, which honestly feels a little bit low for me um for a tight game.
00:32:33
nextguyup
Mm hmm.
00:32:34
Zack
These are teams used traditionally think of scoring a lot of points. So um whether you're you're trusting some defense to step up, I think I actually like Ohio State in this game. I think there is ah think there is a chance that Oregon is just not as good as advertised.
00:32:50
Zack
We've seen a couple of teams exposed. ah Perhaps including Tennessee as top teams who people just kind of thought were good on paper and ended up maybe not Having some missing pieces and so from Oregon's schedule for it looks like they just have a couple pieces that they still aren't That just aren't as solid as they have been in years past.
00:33:07
Zack
So I think there's a chance um They've escaped some pretty bad losses already. I don't know. I'm not convinced It's an interesting game though, I'm good I will be watching
00:33:15
nextguyup
It's a I'm not convinced off between me and Zach. I'm not convinced about Ohio State. He's not convinced about Oregon. You know, I plan on having it on on one of the screens. I bet you I find some time to watch this game.
00:33:29
Zack
We're watching that one,
LSU vs. Ole Miss Game Breakdown
00:33:30
Zack
definitely. um Okay, there is a a very, very high chance both those teams show up in the playoffs though. um And I think at least a couple of us havet have an Oregon Big 10 champion bet in the future.
00:33:43
Zack
So, yeah.
00:33:44
nextguyup
couple Couple laying around.
00:33:46
Zack
Okay, next up. A big SEC matchup. This is actually my most intriguing matchup of the weekend, I think. ah Two teams on similar but different paths. This is Ole Miss at LSU. Obviously going down to LSU, playing a night game will always be an electric environment. Ole Miss.
00:34:13
Zack
ah Coming off a big bounce back win against Kentucky where they look very good. They look much better than they did not against Kentucky I'm sorry against South Carolina after their loss to Kentucky big bounce back win um LSU coming off of a bye week
00:34:23
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:34:31
Zack
um LSU took the loss to USC at the beginning of this season, but then has looked pretty good since then. um I will say they have not played a ton of competitive competition since then, but they did beat South Carolina at South Carolina.
00:34:45
Zack
They beat UCLA. They beat um Southern Alabama and Nichols State. Ole Miss, again, had a pretty convincing win against South Carolina. And so here we have a pretty intriguing matchup. Ole Miss is another team that's on the road but favored by three and a half in what will be a very tough road environment.
00:35:06
Zack
This one's tricky to this is another one of those games that feels Ole Miss is favored But I feel like it could go different a couple different ways Nussmeyer has been playing a good bit better as of late Jackson dart looked Human for sure against Kentucky, but then bounced back in South Carolina. So We have a lot of storylines in this one. What what is the real reality is? um There is probably a playoff spot that is Floating in the air above these two teams um And they are kind of both penciled in as potentially a like fifth playoff spot out of the SEC And this game could very well determine which one of them gets it a lot on the line Tense how you feel about this one?
00:35:54
nextguyup
<unk> LSU at night Give me LSU. Give me the over. I think neither one of these teams like to play very much defense um Points, yeah points points points give it to me.
00:36:02
Zack
and a half
00:36:06
Zack
A lot of points.
00:36:06
nextguyup
I might bump that sucker up to 70 We're looking at a 38 35 game laying around here So final score 10 10 to 7 but ah I think it's gonna be points and
00:36:12
Zack
Wow. It very well could be. Yeah. Oh man.
00:36:22
nextguyup
LSU is kind of they've been searching for that every down back for a long time since like when they had a good stretch of Clyde Edwards hilarious and then and Leonard Fournette was in there and Ligarious Geist LSU has always had very good running backs and they've kind of kind of fallen off the last couple of years this kid Durham Caden Durham freshman has
00:36:45
Zack
My guy.
00:36:50
nextguyup
Like I've watched some LSU games where he's like, he's waving off the sidelines. Like, no, you're not subbing me out. Let's go. Give me the ball.
00:36:56
Zack
yeah He's a dog.
00:36:56
nextguyup
Let's go. And so I, he's a dog. I like what I've seen out of him. Something about LSU at night. It's not a place you want to play.
00:37:04
Zack
No, it's not for sure.
00:37:04
nextguyup
Um, and I just don't know that Jackson darts got that. I don't know the same thing. I kind of kind of same reason I thought was going to happen in South Carolina. They never really got to him and LSU doesn't have a great
00:37:17
Zack
The game was very close, though. Or just about in South Carolina.
00:37:21
nextguyup
Yeah, they never really got like, they never beat up on Dart like I thought they would. I thought their defensive line would play better. LSU, no one stands out on their defensive line to me, but I think that extra bit of juice from it's LSU at night, the crowd is going crazy. Those guys will get after it and affect Jackson just enough to where I like LSU with the points, but I love the over. I mean, it's an over game.
00:37:51
nextguyup
fireworks, explosions.
00:37:52
Zack
there some This was tricky for me again. If you look at LSU's schedule, they scored 27, 44, 36, 34, 42 points. So that overlooks pretty good. um After they lost to USC in week one, USC's looked a little bit more human. They've taken some pretty bad losses, fallen out of the top 25. Their biggest win is against South Carolina, who just got beaten pretty badly by Ole Miss last weekend.
00:38:22
Zack
um The other wins, like I said earlier, are Nickel State, UCLA, and South Alabama. So I'm not sure LSU's actually done a whole lot to convince me. I mean, I know that Nussmeyer's looked better. i just I'm not convinced in LSU's team yet. I do think the X factor in this game, like we've said, is LSU Stadium. Tiger Stadium is always hopping at night. That is going to be a couple point swing. um I like Ole Miss though, I will say.
00:38:54
Zack
I think Ole Miss is legit. I kind of hedged last week on both SEC teams rebounding, Missouri and Ole Miss. Missouri did not. They went the opposite direction, but Ole Miss did, and so I think Ole Miss could be, I think they're in the playoff race still.
00:39:11
Zack
I don't think they win
Texas vs. Oklahoma Matchup Preview
00:39:12
Zack
this game. They'll be firmly there, so.
00:39:15
Zack
A good one, though.
00:39:16
nextguyup
Well, yep, very excited You know as a guy with some Ole Miss stuff in the future I wouldn't hate if they won, but I'm just trying to stay away from them I bet on them.
00:39:17
Zack
I'm excited for it. It'll be a fun game.
00:39:24
Zack
Mm. It's fair.
00:39:28
nextguyup
They do me dirty in Kentucky. I fade them in South Carolina. They come for revenge so Let me try something here.
00:39:38
Zack
OK, we've got we've got a bunch of big games on the schedule, so we're going to move through these. Pretty good, but a lot of really important games. Next one, Red River Shootout, Texas, Oklahoma. Big spread.
00:39:53
Zack
ah These are kind of a tale of two teams. Texas has been dominant so far. they have um They've really looked solid on all aspects of the ball. Quinn Ewers is coming back his quarterback. um This was the game he was hoping to be back for. It looks like he's going to be um a Texas team that looks very good ah defensively. Juxtapose that with an Oklahoma team who offensively is still a dumpster fire. um I think they're looking at getting Dion Burke back this week potentially, but ah they still have a lot of question marks around their offense.
00:40:30
Zack
um Mainly, maybe not even question marks. I think they're just not very good on offense.
00:40:35
nextguyup
yeah
00:40:35
Zack
ah Defensively though, they're very good. um It will be a tough task to try and slow down this Texas offense. This game is another one where really all three of the games talked about so far will be heavily impacted by environment, which team can come out. I mean, this this game, the momentum can can shift so fast. And we've seen, I mean, we saw last year an Oklahoma team who was pretty outmatched came and got a big win against Texas. And so this can go a lot of different ways. Tins, who do you like here in the Red River shootout?
00:41:10
nextguyup
as much as I don't like it. um It's Texas by a lot.
00:41:14
Zack
Yep, probably.
00:41:14
nextguyup
I think this Oklahoma team is bad. I think this is going to further um push my narrative that, very ah not variable, Venables is getting fired this year.
00:41:23
Zack
Yep. Could be.
00:41:27
nextguyup
You can't get embarrassed in this game. You can't start out in the SEC bad. I think both listening both of those things are going to happen. um so he's out he's bye-bye and Texas is just going to keep looking like The number one team even though they are not Well,
00:41:39
Zack
Wow.
00:41:46
Zack
They got a big matchup coming up in a couple weeks with Georgia.
00:41:51
nextguyup
I say think I think they're gonna get that one too And I don't like saying that I just I don't even like Texas, but I just think I
00:41:55
Zack
ah Oh, i in Texas, huh?
00:42:05
nextguyup
I think they're good.
00:42:07
Zack
We're a complete team, I think.
00:42:08
nextguyup
They're a, they're a good complete team.
00:42:10
Zack
Yeah.
00:42:10
nextguyup
They do, they, they do everything good. They don't do anything elite.
00:42:15
Zack
Yeah.
00:42:15
nextguyup
And this is the perfect year for that. Cause I don't think there's a college football team that is elite. There's not your back-to-back Georges. There's not your normal Bama.
00:42:26
nextguyup
There's not, you know, an Ohio state team with a first round draft pick quarterback receiver running back and all five offensive line spots. Like it's just.
00:42:33
Zack
True.
00:42:34
nextguyup
I think it's a down year for everyone. Or it's like a me like a mediocre year for everyone. Like they're all good, but no one's elite like they normally are. And Texas has kind of just jumped on that opportunity and they're
00:42:46
Zack
Very good.
Penn State vs. USC: Season Reflections
00:42:47
nextguyup
going to keep doing it until the playoffs.
00:42:50
Zack
Hmm. There you go. What a take. um I do think Texas wins that one pretty good.
00:42:58
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:42:58
Zack
Okay, so now we have a big matchup in the big 10, big 12.
00:43:05
Zack
And no, we have two big 12 matchups in one big big 10 matchup. So we're going to go through this kind of quick. We have Penn State USC against the USC team. That's reeling a little bit. We have a Penn State team that still a lot of question marks around in my mind, but a lot of people are starting to jump on that Penn State bandwagon.
00:43:25
Zack
um A lot of people are looking at that team as more of a playoff type contender. um They will have a couple of tough games down the schedule, but this is a big one.
00:43:36
Zack
um I feel like USC has pulled a pretty tough schedule so far. You hear USC popping up a lot. um This is the number four in the nation Penn State team favored by four and a half on the road.
00:43:43
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:43:49
Zack
Uh, where we've seen a lot of big 10 team struggle traveling to the West coast so far, um, playing at USC four and a half point over, under is 40 and a half.
00:44:02
Zack
I mean, 50 and a half, sorry, 50 and a half points, which feels pretty low for a USC team.
00:44:04
nextguyup
Oh.
00:44:06
Zack
It was a Penn state team that usually hangs their head on defense though. So, uh, pretty interesting.
00:44:12
nextguyup
This this one to me, this is when James Franklin loses.
00:44:18
Zack
Ooh.
00:44:18
nextguyup
He's got Penn State up to number four.
00:44:21
Zack
Yep.
00:44:21
nextguyup
Everyone's like, oh, this year's different. This year's different.
00:44:24
Zack
Be Illinois.
00:44:24
nextguyup
And what is.
00:44:25
Zack
Good team.
00:44:26
nextguyup
Yeah. And what does Penn State normally do when all things seem to be like they finally turn the page?
00:44:31
Zack
Correct.
00:44:32
nextguyup
Oh, when you turn the page, it says stop, go back five. That's what happens.
Big 12 Matchups and Predictions
00:44:38
nextguyup
So they'll lose this game and then they'll get smashed by Michigan or Ohio State, and then they'll be right back to not making the playoffs.
00:44:38
Zack
ah the
00:44:45
Zack
You know, I wouldn't mind that.
00:44:47
nextguyup
That's what Penn State does.
00:44:49
Zack
I wouldn't mind it. ah Their schedule has been very soft so far.
00:44:51
nextguyup
Yeah, I don't.
00:44:53
Zack
I mean, Illinois was the only team that was really competitive that they played. Other than that, it's pretty soft.
00:44:58
nextguyup
Yep. Illinois is a solid team, but they don't have the offensive firepower, I don't think, to kind of match what Penn State has over there on the def defensive side.
00:45:12
nextguyup
And I don't know something about this USC team. I can't quit them. I can't get rid of them. They're just in my brain. I'm just like, man, i think they're I think they're good, but they keep just hurting me.
00:45:18
Zack
They're a weird team.
00:45:23
Zack
I mean, last last year they were obviously super offensive heavy and they were a big question mark just because their defense was pretty much nonexistent. Not really the case anymore. But they are very hit or miss as it as as its program right now.
00:45:34
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:45:36
Zack
OK, next up we have Iowa State, West Virginia. ah This has become a pretty big. um Big 12 matchup here as ah Iowa State has all of a sudden Uh, maybe shocked the world, but they overcame a deficit last week. Uh, and they're sitting undefeated now as the odds on favorite to win the big 12. Um, playing a West Virginia team who has been up and down so far this season, they're three and two, but they're at home and, uh, they are three point underdogs to an Iowa state team who is ranked number 11 in the nation right now coming into town.
00:46:17
Zack
ah Tins I know you had a ah bet on Iowa State last week and we're pulling for them to win that one Which they did do you believe in this Iowa State team if you make him win the big 12?
00:46:23
nextguyup
true.
00:46:28
nextguyup
Sign me up, baby. I'm a cyclone.
00:46:31
Zack
He's a cyclone baby did week one
00:46:33
nextguyup
um I'm done with West Virginia. I was I was I was somewhat in love with this team beginning of the year. They burned me. They burned me bad. The thing was is last year I was down on them because all talks were their head coach was gonna get fired.
00:46:49
nextguyup
It's a lame duck. They weren't gonna be very good and they You know, they played above expectations. So I thought this year they would carry that momentum and play very well.
00:47:00
nextguyup
No, they're just back to be a mediocre. He can get fired.
00:47:03
Zack
Yep.
00:47:03
nextguyup
I don't care about him. It's not a mean thing to say. College by altered the dream job.
00:47:08
Zack
True.
00:47:09
nextguyup
um So, yeah, no. Cyclone time. Iowa State rise up. Let's get to six and oh, I don't I don't think it's going to be a problem either.
00:47:19
nextguyup
I don't I think they handle it.
00:47:20
Zack
Really?
00:47:21
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:47:22
Zack
um I will say this West Virginia team started off rocky. They lost to a Penn State team that again is looking That's that loss is looking not as bad. It's like a very close loss to a pit team who's also undefeated um And then they beat Kansas and Oklahoma State in the last two weeks.
00:47:37
Zack
So West Virginia is trending upwards for sure um They did 38 for Oklahoma State may just be bad though Vertics in yeah, they may be bad
00:47:41
nextguyup
They smacked Oklahoma State.
00:47:47
nextguyup
Yeah, here's here's a secret. They might be bad.
00:47:51
Zack
Um, but a big, that's, that one's a huge one for big 12 championship game. That big 12 playoff spot implications there as a Iowa state. Will they continue to roll and kind of solidify their spot in the big 12 or will they continue just cannibalizing themselves that they have so far this season? They're the only team that's come out unscathed so far.
00:48:13
nextguyup
Yeah, that that would end the ah kind of fun narrative of like two random teams making the big 12 because you would think Utah is going to get the other slot.
00:48:20
Zack
It'd be fun.
Kansas State vs. Colorado: Playoff Implications
00:48:24
Zack
Well, if Cam Rising could ever come back and play.
00:48:27
nextguyup
I'm sure he'll get a 17th year of college football next year.
00:48:33
Zack
Okay, last game on our slate that we're gonna talk about here. um This is another huge big 12 game. We have two one-loss teams battling it out. We have Kansas State playing a team that has kind of been, um is back in the national conscious again. ah That would be Colorado, who all of a sudden is looking a little bit more like a competitive program and roster. So ah Kansas State,
00:49:03
Zack
has been has not like bad. They took a loss to BYU, but BYU's looked pretty good so far. BYU's also competing for that big 12 spot. um They beat Oklahoma State. um They're coming off of a bye, but they beat Oklahoma State two weeks ago. um And then Colorado also coming off a bye week. Just beat UCF pretty convincingly. Beat Baylor in overtime.
00:49:27
Zack
um
00:49:30
Zack
Yeah, and it's gonna be a fun game. I think Travis Hunter is obviously a fun player to watch. He is kind of the reason people are tuning into a lot of the games. um um This is a good one.
00:49:42
Zack
I think this this is honestly kind of a one of those big, yeah, I think it' ah it's at 10, 15 p.m.
00:49:47
nextguyup
Sneaky good game.
00:49:51
Zack
Eastern time. Sheesh. Probably not be watching this one live, but this is a big 12.
00:49:54
nextguyup
she
00:49:59
Zack
championship kind of determiner as well. These are two teams who are definitely in the picture for that. so
00:50:04
nextguyup
Yeah, for sure. ah Kansas State is a very wild card team to me. I've watched a bunch of their games. This freshman quarterback, Johnson is crazy.
00:50:14
nextguyup
Like he runs around with the ball, like he's playing backyard football a lot of times. And it's worked so far. I mean, they're four in one um and In Colorado, I don't know.
00:50:25
nextguyup
I feel like they might've caught lightning in a bottle a little bit. And I think as a team, I think they know
00:50:31
Zack
We'll see.
00:50:32
nextguyup
that if they can perform well, they could get Travis Hunter, the Heisman. That might be important to them.
00:50:39
Zack
here's the team about Here's the thing about this Colorado team. ah And maybe this is like a zig to your zag. Their their their wins this season have been North Dakota State, lost to Nebraska, team was pretty good. um Fake Patrick Mahomes is on there. They beat a Colorado State team that's very bad.
00:51:00
Zack
They beat a Baylor team in overtime who got beat pretty bad by Iowa State last week. Again, Baylor's another team that's that's pulled a very tough schedule so far.
00:51:05
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:51:09
Zack
um But Baylor, and then they beat a UCF team convincingly, then that same UCF team went to the swamp and just got trashed on by Florida, who we know to be a very bad team.
00:51:18
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:51:21
Zack
So I think Colorado kind of flew into their bye week as
00:51:21
nextguyup
yeah
00:51:28
Zack
um On top kind of flying high I'm not quite sure that they're actually That maybe we just hit a pretty easy part of their schedule. i don I don't know I'm not sold on the Colorado experiment still this season They're fun to watch though from for some of their talent as a team.
00:51:45
nextguyup
Mm hmm.
00:51:47
Zack
I Will say their team their schedule is is not super tough though.
00:51:52
nextguyup
This is one of those games.
00:51:52
Zack
let's Let's do a quick schedule look actually here because it's pretty interesting.
00:51:55
nextguyup
OK.
00:51:56
Zack
um Here's what they have the rest of the season. They're playing Kansas State at home, and in Colorado.
00:52:02
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:52:02
Zack
At Arizona, they host Cincinnati. At Texas Tech, they host Utah, which will be a huge game, potentially.
00:52:13
nextguyup
yeah
00:52:13
Zack
They go to Kansas, who's one in five. And then they play, they host Oklahoma State, who's three and three, we just talked about them. I mean Colorado's got a ah pretty real chance if they can win this game this week and then ah then it'll probably be a game against Utah for a big 12 champion or a big 12 play in game basically.
00:52:35
nextguyup
Yeah, well.
00:52:35
Zack
So I think they've got everything out in front of them. Will they drop a stupid game? ah Probably.
00:52:41
nextguyup
Probably.
00:52:42
Zack
Good chance.
00:52:44
nextguyup
This is one of those
Tennessee vs. Florida Rivalry Game
00:52:45
nextguyup
games I bet the over I turn on the game, I fall asleep at some point, let's be real, and then ah I wake up and be like, oh, the overcast congrats to me.
00:52:58
Zack
By the way, Kansas State favored by four and a half here.
00:53:01
nextguyup
Oh, on the road.
00:53:02
Zack
On the road. So we've got a couple of road teams who are slight favorites since these big games.
00:53:08
nextguyup
Hmm.
00:53:08
Zack
Could be a storyline.
00:53:12
Zack
Or could not be. Okay, since you've you got anything else on your heart, college?
00:53:22
nextguyup
No, I don't think so. Other than next time UT plays, whoever it is, it's a bloodbath.
00:53:30
Zack
Yeah, we didn't mention that one here.
00:53:32
nextguyup
Move the spread all the way up.
00:53:34
Zack
Tennessee is hosting Florida in what is a big time rivalry game coming off of a tough loss.
00:53:43
Zack
I think my goal is to beat them bad enough to where Billy Napier is afraid he's going to get fired on the way home. That's really my dream.
00:53:48
nextguyup
He should, he should.
00:53:50
Zack
um I don't know that he will. But I kind of want to beat them. This game this game is is famously very close, no matter what. I would like for this to not be close. That is my one request to the to the good people at the Tennessee Volunteers Program. I would like to beat them
Food Talk and Light-hearted Trivia
00:54:07
Zack
by 30 plus and for Billy Napier to not make the return trip to Gainesville.
00:54:16
Zack
And that's all I'm going to say.
00:54:18
nextguyup
umm Moving it all the way up so as high as draft Kings. Let me go More
00:54:22
Zack
I think it's 15 and a half right now.
00:54:26
Mason
Shoo.
00:54:26
Zack
It was 20 before Tennessee lost to Arkansas.
00:54:31
nextguyup
Sorry, that just means I can make some more money now I'm moving it I'm moving it all the way up
00:54:34
Zack
Correct. ah There is some wide receiver injuries on the team. Tennessee's got some issues to to work out there. A couple of their top wide receivers all got banged up. And so injury report came out on Wednesday night as we're talking.
00:54:51
Zack
ah Looks like Dante Thornton will not be playing. Is questionable. Um, brew McCoy was playing with a cast on his hand. Squirrel white, I think will play.
00:55:01
Zack
Yeah. Why did playing water? See where the cast on your hand is one of the wildest things I've ever, I don't understand how they can do that, but here we are.
00:55:09
nextguyup
Be a little tough.
00:55:10
Zack
I guess you can block with a cast on your hand.
00:55:14
Zack
Okay. Do we want to close out the show with some food for thoughts?
00:55:19
Mason
Yes. Real quick. I was looking at the, uh, the highest that will let you go Tennessee minus 26 and a half at plus two 19.
00:55:28
Zack
oh
00:55:29
nextguyup
Cowards wouldn't let me get to 30.
00:55:31
Zack
Sometimes they'll give you can you can take the prop of like Tennessee to win by 30 plus or whatever or like It's
00:55:38
Mason
Yeah, you can find that. Uh, usually it's like, yeah.
00:55:41
nextguyup
ah I'll find it don't you worry
00:55:43
Zack
like the exact win by numbers, but then they will sometimes do like the huge basically everybody on a blowout and
00:55:50
Mason
All right. Yeah. Let's close out with some food for thought. Um, probably one of our most controversial and fun drafts that we've done since the inception of this podcast was a Halloween candy draft.
00:56:02
Zack
Why was it controversial, Mason?
00:56:03
Mason
Um, so I just wanted to touch, uh,
00:56:05
Zack
Can you title the class?
00:56:08
Mason
cause I didn't win. That's why it was controversial.
00:56:11
Zack
Yeah, but what was the pick?
00:56:11
nextguyup
Oh.
00:56:12
Zack
There was one pick. A couple picks, actually. was it It was before or after you said they should microwave candies.
00:56:21
Mason
Was that before or after? I don't remember. Microwave, the M&Ms tried everybody. Carmel, Carmel M&Ms.
00:56:28
Zack
Do not, when you're not indoor shock away, think caramel evidence for the record.
00:56:31
nextguyup
Nope.
00:56:34
Mason
ah and No, it was a Ferrero Rocher, which now I know how to pronounce it. All three of us were pronouncing incorrectly on that podcast as well.
00:56:43
Zack
Hmm.
00:56:43
Mason
Just great content, go back and find it. Okay, so um Halloween is around the corner and just like everything in this world, the prices have gone up.
00:56:53
Zack
Hmm.
00:56:53
Mason
For Halloween candy, it has gone up 14%.
00:56:58
Zack
wow
00:56:58
Mason
But not what you would think, not just because of inflation, but due to a chocolate ah shortage of cocoa beans,
00:57:07
Zack
Hmm.
00:57:07
Mason
About 70% of the world's cocoa is produced from cocoa beans grown in West Africa. But for the past two years, weather patterns change, have hindered cocoa growth, bean growth, forcing companies to pay more for cocoa beans to keep the demand.
00:57:24
Zack
Wow. The travesty.
00:57:27
Mason
This Halloween season, Americans are expected to spend approximately $3.5 billion dollars on candy this year.
00:57:32
Zack
Hmm. Feels like a lot.
00:57:38
Mason
This does feel like a lot.
00:57:40
Zack
OK, I have a question for both of you.
00:57:42
Mason
Yes. And then have some more fun facts about.
00:57:43
Zack
If you're going if you're going. Oh, sorry.
00:57:46
Mason
No, go ahead. You got it.
00:57:47
Zack
If you're going trick or treating and you have a basket full of candy, what's your ideal percentage of chocolate versus non chocolate?
00:57:56
Mason
Oh, Zach, this is fantastic. This was literally one of my stats, so I can't answer this, but go ahead.
00:58:01
Zack
This is your stat.
00:58:01
Mason
Well, I can't answer my personal. Yeah, this is a legitimate stat, but go ahead, tens.
00:58:05
Zack
How do they have a stat on that? OK.
00:58:09
nextguyup
Um, I'm a 60 40 chocolate just cause of Reese's Twix little Butterfinger action.
00:58:12
Zack
60, which way?
00:58:16
Zack
Hmm.
00:58:21
nextguyup
Never heard anybody got
00:58:22
Zack
It's true. I think I might be 60, 40.
00:58:25
Mason
I think I'm heavy on chocolate.
00:58:26
nextguyup
me candies.
00:58:26
Zack
I think I might be 60, 40 the other way.
00:58:29
Mason
Ah, there you go.
00:58:29
Zack
I'm kind of a big I'm a big like Starburst Skittles, Sour Patch Kids type of type of guy.
00:58:30
nextguyup
I'm not a big,
00:58:30
Mason
The sugary stuff.
00:58:37
nextguyup
Yeah. I like Sour Patch Kids a lot and Gummy Worms, but I'm not a, I don't like Starburst or like licorice of any kind, like Twizzlers.
00:58:39
Zack
Gummy worms.
00:58:47
Zack
I like Twizzlers. Yeah.
00:58:49
nextguyup
Yeah.
00:58:50
Zack
Hmm. I mean, I do like chocolate for sure. I like chocolate.
00:58:55
nextguyup
Chocolate's great.
00:58:55
Zack
I guess you've got Tootsie Rolls in your candy basket.
00:58:58
Mason
hurts my throat for some reason.
00:59:00
Zack
Hmm.
00:59:00
nextguyup
Oh yeah.
00:59:01
Zack
Maybe there's red dye in it.
00:59:02
Mason
We talked about this.
00:59:02
nextguyup
You, you, you, you, you gentle boys have one food that is your kryptonite. Shout out frozen pizzas.
00:59:12
Mason
We were talking about tizzy rolls, but anyways, uh, this was a stat. Uh, chocolate candies generally dominate in sales, uh, accounting for 70% of Halloween candy sales.
00:59:24
Mason
So America is 70 30.
00:59:25
Zack
no
00:59:27
Mason
If you can't think about it that way.
00:59:29
Zack
Chocolate is 70%.
00:59:32
Mason
Yeah. Of the sales, the chocolate candies.
00:59:32
Zack
Wow. Okay.
00:59:35
Mason
Uh,
00:59:35
Zack
10 is pretty close.
00:59:36
Mason
Average candy consumption. On average, kids can, they consume about 3.4 pounds of candy during the Halloween season. Zach, what's your number?
00:59:47
Zack
Way more than that.
00:59:47
Mason
Seven pounds?
00:59:49
nextguyup
Those rookie numbers
00:59:50
Zack
One year, one year, one year, um we were living in this neighborhood and I was anticipating a lot of kids and there were far less than anticipated. And I had so much candy leftover and that was a huge problem for me. Because if I have candy in front of me, I'm just going to eat it until it's gone. And boy, did we have so much candy. That was, that was not a good couple of days for me personally.
01:00:18
Zack
3.4 pounds that's a lot of candy saw this in this right oh
01:00:21
Mason
Seems like a lot. It's a lot of candy. Okay. Next food for thought. Let's rapid fire here. Uncrustables just launched a new flavor for the first time in 10 years. And we need to try it. Uh, do you guys know what it is?
01:00:40
Mason
No, this, uh, corn, peanut butter and raspberry spread is the one I found.
01:00:45
Zack
Oh, I thought I saw Uncrustable's Nutella in the store. Not crazy.
01:00:49
Mason
Fact check.
01:00:49
nextguyup
That's been a thing but but I buy those yeah, I Also I Also not to be this guy I gave out the raspberry Uncrustable food for thought a couple weeks ago
01:00:49
Mason
um
01:00:50
Zack
It's been a thing.
01:00:53
Mason
It said 10.
01:00:53
Zack
Oh.
01:00:54
Mason
It said 10 years. So I wonder if Nutella came out and we'll, we'll, we'll fact check.
01:00:57
Zack
It's been around for 10 years. Oh, no.
01:00:59
Mason
I know we'll fact check.
01:01:10
Zack
Oh, Mason, what a tough break for you.
01:01:10
Mason
Dang. Zach didn't even notice it.
01:01:14
Zack
Oh, imagine doubling up and I'm super sorry.
01:01:16
Mason
Have we, have you tried it yet? Yeah, we have to, sorry.
01:01:20
nextguyup
No, i is i I haven't seen it in stories yet.
01:01:20
Mason
ah Well, I know you haven't talked about this yet. Um, somebody looked up all 1400 restaurants that have been on diners, drive-ins and dives and did the research of how many have went out of business.
01:01:40
Mason
According to, uh, the source here, 224 of the 14,000 or 1400, not 14,000.
01:01:48
nextguyup
Dang.
01:01:51
Mason
uh, have closed, which is just shy of 15%. Is that bad luck?
01:01:55
nextguyup
ah wait I wish you would have let us guess because I was going to say 258. That was my number.
01:02:00
Mason
Dang.
01:02:01
nextguyup
Dang it.
01:02:03
Mason
Yep. Two 24.
01:02:03
nextguyup
I could have looked smart, but now I'm just dumb.
01:02:07
Mason
It's okay. I'm just the idiot that Aria repeated one of our food for thought. So there's something common.
01:02:13
nextguyup
Was a lot of those a lot of those triple D places are from probably from the early seasons, mom and pop places that, you know, didn't want to do it anymore with like the kids taking over the price sold that's what it that's what it is triple d is not bad luck if you think so go walk in traffic no slander flavor town around here
01:02:40
Mason
Give as a sponsor good DM them right now. All right, that was but that was my food for thought All right, thank you everybody Oh No The
01:02:47
Zack
Love it.
01:02:52
nextguyup
See that text there, Zach?
01:02:54
Zack
Yeah. OK, guys, I did a little bit of live fact checking.
01:03:02
Zack
This tells me that.
01:03:05
Mason
hazelnut
01:03:06
Zack
According to my fact check, Smucker's Uncrustable chocolate favoriteured flavored hazelnut spread, which is Nutella, were released as a new flavor for the brand in 2024.
01:03:13
nextguyup
Mm.
01:03:16
Zack
This was the first new flavor in 10 years for Unagustables.
01:03:21
Zack
Google AI told me that.
01:03:22
Mason
wow
01:03:22
Zack
So Google AI could be wrong on that one.
01:03:23
Mason
Wow.
01:03:24
Zack
I think we need to actually Google AI maybe.
01:03:27
nextguyup
You should probably always fact check Google AI.
01:03:30
Zack
I don't know. it Yeah, Google AI is the least trustworthy of them. So it's hard to say.
01:03:36
Mason
OK, well, we'll need that maybe.
01:03:36
Zack
But I did see that.
01:03:41
Zack
Because then another website just said, we're doing, this is, this is a good podcast.
01:03:42
Mason
we I found the I found the raspberry one like straight up on a like an actual website, not on Google AI.
01:03:53
nextguyup
Hmm.
01:03:54
Zack
I also see it here as well.
01:03:54
Mason
We need to go to actual stores and find both of these, put us on a mission, leave our houses right now.
01:04:01
nextguyup
I've had the new Tello one.
01:04:02
Zack
See, I saw that one.
01:04:02
nextguyup
I used to eat them during peak all the time.
01:04:03
Zack
I'd never seen it before because I i was at, that's very interesting interesting.
01:04:07
Mason
Well, did you have them only this year? Because according to AI, it came out just this year. Or did you have them in the past?
01:04:10
Zack
I know.
01:04:13
Mason
Have you had him have you had them before 2024?
01:04:13
nextguyup
Who's to say?
01:04:17
nextguyup
Yeah, because Macy I packed my Macy's lunch. She'd but see me by the box and she bike. Yep. That's what I want for lunch for the rest of the week. Is that Nutella?
01:04:27
Mason
So coordinate AI was 20.
01:04:29
nextguyup
Uncrustable.
01:04:30
Mason
And it does sound pretty good.
01:04:30
nextguyup
She loves them. She smashes them.
01:04:31
Zack
Guys, I think something crazy has happened.
01:04:35
nextguyup
Oh no.
01:04:36
Zack
It's like one of those Mandela Effect moments where we're like, is this real or not?
01:04:39
nextguyup
We jumped into the wrong timeline.
01:04:42
Zack
I think Google, yeah, I might've just actually been wrong. Shout out. Okay. Well, what a way to wrap up an episode, everyone. Thank you for joining us here. We are excited for this weekend of football. Join us on the Discord. Join us on socials. TikTok. Make fun of us. That's what everyone else does, apparently. Get on there. Join the club. Make fun of our bad takes. My Missouri take last week really was torn apart by the people of TikTok. so If you want to make fun of our bets or you want to hear our bets, join us on the discord. We are giving out a lot of bets this weekend. um My Missouri one was bad, but I had a couple of winners as well. So be there with us. Ten's giving out a lot. Mason's giving out some NFL stuff there. So it's a really fun community. We have been talking ball. I have a feeling we will be on there all day Saturday as a pretty incredible slate of football is happening.
01:05:38
Zack
ah we ah We appreciate all of you listeners out there. We thank you for listening and we will see you on Monday for the recap of the weekend.