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DLC 14. The Path - The Last of Us S2E3 Spoilercast and Review | Games Over Plastic
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Sean, Hodge, and Midnight come together to discuss the 3rd episode of Season 2 in HBO's The Last of Us tv show titled "The Path". What did we think? We get into all the details here! Join us.
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Transcript
Introduction and Co-host Introduction
00:00:30
Speaker
Hello and welcome back to a very special episode. We're going to continue our series of reviewing The Last of Us TV episodes. ah We're joined for the first time by our wonderful co-host Midnight. This is his first episode appearing.
00:00:45
Speaker
Welcome, welcome. Thank you. Happy to be here. Very excited. And as always, joined by Hodge, who's making his third consecutive appearance. Funny enough, I was not on the last one.
00:00:56
Speaker
I was too busy in Florida.
Apologies and Preparing for GTA 6
00:00:58
Speaker
I apologize for that. Am i the only one with perfect attendance on this show? Other than that one episode, the episodes you've done with other people. Probably. Yeah. um Yeah, I apologize. I have perfect.
00:01:12
Speaker
I have perfect attendance for the mainline show, but I've, I missed the kingdom hearts for obvious reasons. And I wonder why I missed two weeks of this. Cause my dad was in town. So yeah, he was staying with me and we had fun.
00:01:25
Speaker
Nice. Well, I apologize about last week, everyone. I was gallivanting Florida, getting ready for GTA six. Nice. All right. But as you know, this is a review. We're reviewing each episode of the
Finding Past Episodes
00:01:40
Speaker
last of us. If you missed our first two episodes, you can find them on YouTube. As always, you can find us on YouTube. ah Please subscribe, like us. You can follow us on X game over plastic.
00:01:53
Speaker
um you can really just you know follow us on any uh podcast service subscribe to us leave us a review leave us a rating um yeah before we get into episode three we need to get midnight's thoughts on episode one and two just briefly we're not we don't need a full-on plot recap here but what do you what are you thinking so far
First Impressions of 'The Last of Us' TV Show
00:02:13
Speaker
All right. So let me give you 20 minutes on this. So yeah, bars and and we're actually recording in the evening for once so I can crack open a beer. I got a beer. here whoa I might as well. NSF not safe for work. NSF W. Yeah. So episode one, I'll be honest with you. It's been over two weeks now. I don't really remember all the details.
00:02:32
Speaker
um I do remember that I enjoyed the episode. um I remember the stalker was in episode one, right? Yeah, the stalker was pretty cool. As people may or may not know, I never played the games.
00:02:43
Speaker
So this is kind of unique for me because I don't have much of an idea of what's going to happen. um I don't know what was in the game and what they're what they added or expounded on for the show alone like they sometimes do.
00:02:55
Speaker
um But I thought it was cool. You know, first time I've ever seen a stalker, you know, intelligent, infected, who was like literally stalking her. And that was real cool. um So I like that.
00:03:06
Speaker
um And overall, I mean, it was a good episode. You know, we got to meet Abby and her crew a little bit. um We got to see the lesbian kiss was in this episode one. Was it not? I think so.
00:03:17
Speaker
um So that was cool. Shout out to Dina. I like her, her actress. She's very attractive. I'm a fan of that. And yeah, I mean, it's been good. It's been good. I enjoyed the first episode.
00:03:27
Speaker
um Episode two, obviously, was the banger, if you will, where the big ah event happened.
Discussion on Joel's Death Scene
00:03:33
Speaker
Now, I knew everyone know about knew about this, that Joel died. I knew about that. even who Whoa, whoa, I didn't know.
00:03:39
Speaker
Yeah, I know. Well, this is a spoiler cast. so um yeah every Literally, I think everybody knows that. I knew that was coming as well. um I thought it was well done for the most part. um I feel like it could have been...
00:03:52
Speaker
way better done though, to be honest. Um, like they could have shown a lot more violence. I, I do believe that they chose not to, it was like a stylistic choice to make it not super violent. Um, but like a lot of it was done off camera of, you know, the damage and stuff.
00:04:06
Speaker
Um, Dina, I think Dina was only there really to say, that's Joel, just to tip off Abby. That was the vibes I got. Cause there was like no point and for her. yeah And for her to hear, uh, like the WLF. Oh yeah. Yeah. Get their names.
00:04:23
Speaker
Um, That's
Speculation on Storyline Divergence
00:04:24
Speaker
true. That did come up in this in this episode we're about to talk about. um But yeah, it was good. I mean, RIP Joel. ah We barely knew you. So that sucks. I am surprised that they actually had the balls to ah to stick to doing it this early.
00:04:38
Speaker
Part of me thought that they were going to kind of shift the order of operations. for the TV show. I thought maybe they would do like the flashback stuff early on in the season, then actually kill him in a later episode, but they didn't, they had the balls. They killed his ass. He's dead. So rip Joel.
00:04:53
Speaker
Um, yeah, so far so good. I'll leave it at that one and two. I'm enjoying well I was going to say, I was going to say midnight. If you know the order of operations, you know, nothing can ever change in order of the operations, you know, is that so? Yeah.
00:05:05
Speaker
Prem death parentheses. Yeah. Um, anyways, uh, my thoughts on episode two, since I wasn't here last week, pretty briefly, I thought it was awesome.
Episode Two Analysis and Reactions
00:05:11
Speaker
I felt like a season finale to me, to be honest, it felt like that level of, uh, chaos and everything.
00:05:17
Speaker
Um, I liked the, uh, Joel death scene, uh, I do agree. Uh, they could have done more of it on camera, but if you look back at season one, a lot of the violence wasn't shown. It was, you could kind of hear it.
00:05:31
Speaker
You really couldn't see it. The most violent scene that they did show was obviously the season finale when, you know, Joe was on a rampage. That was like the first real, real like violence that you got. it That was pretty awesome.
00:05:42
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to the, uh, the scene where Abby shoots Joe with a shotgun that came out. I like, that was just kind of out of nowhere. I was like, Oh my God. Like I remember that from the game, but like it just came out of nowhere. um My mom was my mom is really mad like at Abby. She's like really, really pissed off, like extremely pissed to the point where she's like, I'm not watching this anymore. And then obviously she is going to watch it.
00:06:04
Speaker
Did she know it was coming? No, she is. No, she had no idea. She was like, wait, wait, wait. ah She thought that um Ellie was going to save them. She thought when um aby um Abby, Abby, when Ellie said, come on, Joel, just get up. And you see kind of Joel kind of trying to push himself up.
00:06:20
Speaker
She thought he was going to push himself up. um She like screamed. She put her head like like this when Joel got stabbed in the neck. She like, she could not handle it. She was like, oh, she was making no it. I'm like me, my dad were just like laughing at her because rewatched it with them. Yeah.
00:06:38
Speaker
That's funny. That reminds me of, i don't I don't want to spoil a different show, but that reminds me of something that happens in the last episode of the very first season of Game of Thrones. I won't say what it is, but I was totally, as as a virgin viewer of that show, I was totally thinking that like it was going to go different and that someone was going to save the day, but nope. yeah um I also, just real quick before get into episode three, I really i actually did like the the attack
Divergence from the Game
00:07:04
Speaker
on Jackson. I thought that was, I did like it. I think it it It was so different than the game because it was just that didn't happen in the game.
00:07:14
Speaker
So it makes it makes things... It shows their they're they're they're going places that the game wouldn't go. um they're They're also going to change. I think it shows that they're not they're willing to change a lot of things.
00:07:25
Speaker
I thought it was funny, though. like Stereotypical, of the girl in the wheelchair is working the radio. Very stereotypical. Yeah. Batgirl, which is funny. um golden Well, what else can she do? yes She's crippled. She's got to do something. I did think when they kept showing Tommy and Tommy's wife, I thought Tommy's wife was going to die.
00:07:45
Speaker
And I thought for a brief moment, you know how Tommy, after he kills the blower, he's running through he's shooting things? I thought he was going to inadvertently shoot her, which would have been awful. That so bad.
00:07:56
Speaker
i also liked the idea of like the greater good. You see the guy who gets bit. He kind of puts the gun he hands the gun to them. It's like, kill me now. um We did get the two cowards who run away. Freaking cowards. That's what
Episode Three Setup and Impressions
00:08:08
Speaker
the first thing I had. I go, cowards!
00:08:10
Speaker
You always get those people. But yeah, I thought they did a good job. I liked it a lot. But yeah, you guys ready to jump into episode three? Yeah, you were kind of reminded me real quick. like That was so random. like So that didn't happen in the game, that huge attack? No.
00:08:25
Speaker
I have an idea of why they did it. um I think they wanted to give more of a... it I don't know. it's hard to It's hard to explain it without spoiling the game to you, Midnight.
00:08:35
Speaker
um Yeah. Yeah. it It is interesting the way they did it. I think... Oh, one more thing I will i will say about the
Abby's Motivations and Character Discussion
00:08:42
Speaker
Joel death. I think it would have been a lot more powerful if we didn't know Abby's motives like they did in the game. If we don't know her motive at first, I would have liked that better.
00:08:51
Speaker
um i think i think they i think they did it to try to make people like sympathize with Abby, and I really honestly don't think it worked because anyone I've talked to who has no idea what's happening still freaking hates her. They're like, it doesn't matter!
00:09:03
Speaker
yeah I think they did that... I think they did that twofold to make you sympathize with Abby and also to soften the blow a little bit because you can see it coming. yeah
00:09:12
Speaker
Although it is interesting if you look at like the reaction of all her like her crewmates. The only one, this is coming from someone who didn't play the game, who doesn't know anything about my mom. She's like, oh all of them were so, like they you could tell they didn't want to do it except for that Manny guy.
00:09:28
Speaker
That guy sucks. It was pretty cool. I'm like, Mom, if you hate him now, you should have seen spit on the body in the game.
00:09:37
Speaker
It's just so random to me that all of a sudden you have like 800 or 1,000 or whatever. In fact, it's coming out of the frozen ground like that. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but whatever. I think they did a good job explaining it how like they're, you know, at the beginning they're they're talking about how ah they use them to, you know, for insulation.
00:09:55
Speaker
um And it is funny that inadvertently it kind of was Abby's fault that a bunch of the infected got
Episode Two Favorites and Episode Three Anticipation
00:10:02
Speaker
released. Yeah. when she falls down the mountain or falls on a little hill. i think it's funny.
00:10:08
Speaker
Um, but yeah, overall, i think they're doing a good job. Um, I thought episode two so far is my favorite one. Um, but yeah, let's get into episode three. Um, episode three interesting uh it's kind of not i wouldn't say filler but i think it kind of is kind of more of long lines of art let's just set up what the rest of the season is going to look like we get you know brief glimpses at the wlf we get brief glimpses at the wlf we get some glimpses at the seraphites um i think it does go to show you there's a scene i know we're kind of i'm kind of jumping around here but there is a scene near the end where they show the all the dead um um
00:10:47
Speaker
it goes to show you how brutal the WLF is. And I think it goes to show you that Abby doesn't know what truly is going on with them because she says in episode two, Oh, we were trained not to kill anyone who's defenseless or can't defend themselves.
00:11:01
Speaker
And we see them just kind of, we assume they kind of brutally murder them, especially with the kids. I think it really does hit home. It was a pretty hard moment. ah I know it wasn't defenseless.
00:11:15
Speaker
Well, we don't, I mean, yeah. Gun to a hammer. Yeah, we'll see who wins that one. um I know Hodge is going to disagree with me. um The more I've watched this season, I think Bella Ramsey is doing actually a ah good job as e Ellie. I think there the way they're taking her as Ellie, they're making it different than the game.
00:11:32
Speaker
I think she comes off as not as like, oh my God, I'm so intense. I'm so intense. They're taking a more approach where she's vulnerable and innocent. We get the scene where she cries at
Praise for Ellie's Portrayal
00:11:43
Speaker
the gravestone. She cries at the jacket.
00:11:45
Speaker
Uh, she obviously doesn't want people to know because, um, anytime someone's near her, she's acting all tough. I, I'm not saying she's great. I still think she's the worst cast, the cast member of this, um, crew.
00:11:57
Speaker
Um, and shout out to Seth, his little redemption arc. Um, yeah, but, uh, that's my initial thought. I liked the episodes. I think it's the weakest of the three so far though. Um, but I can, dev did you guys watch the scenes for the episode four?
00:12:11
Speaker
Um, remind me again who Seth is. He's a guy he's the guy who yells at her at the barn for them kissing. Oh, yeah, yeah. He he did a good family event. It's a family event. You damn gays or whatever. and yet he's got his you know, he's got his Trump hat on. um Yeah.
00:12:28
Speaker
He had a good redemption, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I think it's funny that like he couldn't go with it. I got friendly fire. Friendly fire took me out. You sure it was friendly?
00:12:39
Speaker
um that was That was a funny quickie line. But yeah um those are my initial thoughts. Hodge, what do you think? You haven't really spoken much. and ah Ready? Hang on. Here we go. Hodge is going to say he liked some parts but hated other parts.
00:12:51
Speaker
don't. Yeah, I guess. its started off yeah it started off really strong, and then it just came to a screeching halt, which makes sense because the big event happened last week. You can't just keep rolling every single week, so they have to set up what's going to happen. I like that they kind of actually showed the journey to Seattle. It didn't just teleport after the stuff happened, like in the game, so that was neat. they're so therere For some reason, they're slow-burning the Dina-Eli relationship. I don't know what... i mean Obviously, they changed up what happened with who was in the pot.
00:13:24
Speaker
ah Eugene's place in the previous episode, it was Jesse and Ellie instead of Ellie and Dina. But no, I actually surprisingly, ah you got it completely wrong. i actually thought Ellie did or Bella did a very good job in this episode. I thought the opening was really powerful. She actually it was like I during when she woke up screaming and stuff, was like,
00:13:44
Speaker
Damn, she actually is belting out belting this out. She's doing a really good job. like Again, i agree. Horrible casting overall. She should not be Ellie in the first place.
00:13:55
Speaker
But no, shes she did a really good job. And actually, i was thinking this the whole time watching it. my My biggest complaint, I was saying this to Locke last week, my biggest complaint with Ellie in The Last of Us Part 2 is she wasn't Ellie.
00:14:09
Speaker
She was just a mopey, angry person the entire game. But she still has that sarcasm in this. And I love that, that she she still has her attitude of being that sarcastic asshole.
00:14:20
Speaker
And so I love that they're doing that this season. I think they realized that after the game, like, oh shit, no one liked Ellie in that game because she was kind of a bitch the entire time. So, yeah, yeah. i can yeah Yeah. I was just gonna say, yeah, I love that she's still herself in this season. And I love that about it.
00:14:37
Speaker
I can definitely see that they've taken like feedback from what they what the audience perception is. Even like that, I know we don't necessarily agree with um you know having Abby, you know opening with Abby in season one, in episode one.
00:14:50
Speaker
um Not all of us agree about that, but I can see that they're they're taking the response of the audience and trying to change things. I don't know if you guys listened to the episode last week. that I did. Like I said, just really quickly, if anyone who might not have heard it from last
Early Introduction of Abby's Impact
00:15:05
Speaker
week, I... ah we lock had a good reason as to same with you as to why they shouldn't have shown Abby, because then when she meets Joel, you don't, you would have not known what's going to go on, but also, but also I do think that there were good reasons to show her first. Like I said, like you said, to sympathize with her a little more. So I'm, I'm kind of take or leave it on introducing Abby first, but um yeah, I think they're definitely going to definitely try and make Abby more sympathetic this time around because I,
00:15:35
Speaker
never was on her side in the game. Not at not a single moment was I, but I like Caitlin Dever. So I'm hoping that they're I hoping that she's a little more sympathetic this season.
00:15:47
Speaker
Wouldn't shock me if we don't see that specific crew. Abby's like like them together or it would not shock me if we don't see them for. i know we saw Manny at the end of the episode, but like would not shock if you don't see a lot of them the rest of the series, the rest of this season.
00:16:01
Speaker
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised either. Yeah, spit some bars, bud. yeah bits and bars but Yeah, I got bars. So I agree with Hodge, actually. I think last night's episode, um Bella Ramsey, as Ellie did start to grow on me a little bit, I think she did a good job in the last episode.
00:16:20
Speaker
um Also, too, I don't know if they're using like some CGI or like some kind of like filters or something, but she looked more mature and her head looked slightly less potato-ish. like I mean, I don't know. like or her Her face looked a little bit more...
00:16:36
Speaker
Angular. I don't know. Are they like using some kind of like Instagram filters on her? I don't know. But um I thought she looked more like Ellie than she had in the previous episodes. She did. She looked older. She looked more mature.
00:16:48
Speaker
um i thought her... Obviously, I don't know what happens in the game, but I thought that like the way she reacted to Joel was very believable and sincere feeling. um And I liked it. You know, the the crying scenes, the the moments of weakness. I liked her little speech. I actually got a little bit emotional, a little watery eyes a little bit during her little speech at the council.
00:17:06
Speaker
About how like you know we gotta we got to be a family. you know We're us. you know We got to avenge. ah you know You know what I mean?
Appreciation for Slow Burn Episodes
00:17:14
Speaker
ah That was very well done. um Overall, like I thought this was a really, really good episode.
00:17:20
Speaker
I don't mind the slow burn episodes. um i'm actually I kind of enjoy slow burn episodes where it's just kind of brooding and building up the plot. And that's very much what this was. um I really enjoyed it the whole way through. I thought this was a great episode.
00:17:32
Speaker
um I actually i like this one. Just as much, maybe even more than episode one. I thought it was good. um There was a lot of stuff that I didn't know what was going on. Like those, what were what were those people with like the weird cuts on their face? that firef I don't know anything about them.
00:17:46
Speaker
I don't know who they are, but they got massacred. i think I think you're going to just see god glimpses of them, but I think you'll get more detail in season three. Okay. So yeah, that was interesting. Um, and then of course they had that big moment at the end where you see like how strong and how, how deep the, uh, the WLF is rolling. Like they're rolling through with armored vehicles and they had like Nazis, they had like what 50 or 80 people marching or something. So, um, Dina and Ellie are going to have their work cut out for them. I would say they're a bit outnumbered.
00:18:19
Speaker
Um, Yeah, no, I... Some of my some of my favorite scene you you made a reference to was in that council scene when Ellie makes that speech about us and how we get the you know we get the comedic opening with the guy. He's talking about you know the corner. Well, I don't really have that ah really have any ah any interest in the Seattle exhibition. You can shut up then.
00:18:38
Speaker
um Then we get you know um you know other people speaking up. I was shocked. I was surprised that they had Seth like speak up
Ellie and Dina's Relationship Development
00:18:46
Speaker
like that. They kind of gave him an expanded role. Yeah.
00:18:50
Speaker
it's interesting that they did that. Um, but I liked it. I liked your speech a lot. I did like the, you know, this is us. We are community. I liked how Seth was like, you know, we don't turn our backs on, you know, we don't, we don't, uh, open our locks when someone kills our brother. We don't let them in our house.
00:19:05
Speaker
Um, I thought that was pretty powerful. Um, but yeah, overall, um, like I, it was a slow burn. Hodge, I do agree with you. I think there, it is a little strange that they are, um, slow, slowly, um, building that, um, relationship between Abby and I mean, Abby, Jesus, Ellie and Dina, especially given they showed us the kiss scene right away.
00:19:26
Speaker
so yeah, um, they do make a little, um, and got a scene where, um, Dina throws up near the end, which she sees all the dead bodies. Um, Interesting. couple ideas about that.
00:19:39
Speaker
One thing I noticed here and that I didn't quite understand, and it might be because I'm an idiot, so don't don't make fun of me too bad, but I noticed that when Ellie went to Joel's grave, she spread some coffee beans on his grave.
Symbolism of Ellie's Gesture with Coffee Beans
00:19:52
Speaker
And what was the symbolism behind that? Did I miss something? In the first season, she Joel's drinking coffee, and he drinks it black, and she's like, oh, what's that? And so Joel lets her have some, and she's like, this tastes like poop. he also He also talks about how he trades more than he's proud of for coffee because he loves coffee. can't remember if it was when Dina came over what, but there was there was another scene where he talks about he has coffee, or maybe it was in the first, I don't remember, but there was some scene where they asked like where to get the coffee. He goes, I traded some stuff I'm not proud of kind of thing. like
00:20:31
Speaker
he He's very into coffee, so that was that. Well, he and I both. Yeah, I mean, that was that was interesting I like that scene a lot.
Emotional Impact of Opening Scenes
00:20:42
Speaker
Yeah, no, overall, though, I think they I think they are doing a great job.
00:20:46
Speaker
I just want to add some more. But I know I'm ready to hop hop into the episode itself. want all right so yeah we get that opening scene where they're in the hospital and um ellie wakes up and she's no there's a cold there's a cold open first where tommy walks in to see joel's body yeah right yep and it's a very this is actually my favorite scene in the entire episode where it's very powerful where he notices the watch and it just instantly makes him think of sarah and he just looks at me goes give sarah my best because joel and sarah are back together again up in heaven so
00:21:21
Speaker
I thought that was a beautiful scene. Yeah. And you could tell from in season one, from episode one, you could tell that Tommy spent a lot of time with both Sarah and Joel back then. So yeah, you know how close they were.
00:21:31
Speaker
ah yeah, it was a powerful scene. It it did, it did hit a lot. um I didn't think that it was crazy to me that like they have like a more, I never really thought about it. Like they have a morgue with all the bodies.
00:21:46
Speaker
Yeah. And they added to it zooms out and it shows all the other bodies that are in the room also. And, Yeah, I thought that was a great scene. But then, yes, it does cut to cut to Ellie in the hospital. Unless Midnight has something to add to that as well.
00:21:59
Speaker
No, no, I thought it was great. Yeah, so yeah now then we cut to the hospital where Ellie's waking up. Yeah. and At first, I was like, how are they not going to notice like her bites like on her?
00:22:10
Speaker
But then I remembered she she covered the one with a tattoo, and then she cut the other one. But yeah, um yeah I do agree with thought that was really powerful with her screaming. It shows that like that PTSD almost. like I cannot believe this actually happened. like I cannot believe this is real.
00:22:26
Speaker
Yeah, which which is not to this isn't a spoiler for the game or anything, but in the game, she does deal with PTSD. So it's it's really cool that like they're showing it out the gate because in the game, it was kind of at the end. She started getting it. But having it start with it is is a smart, smart choice. Yeah.
00:22:45
Speaker
Having her almost wake up and be like, this is like a surreal moment. Like she can't believe it actually happened. Yeah. um Which I really liked. Yeah. Yeah. And then before.
00:22:57
Speaker
Oh, sorry. Go minute. I was going to say, so like they held her in the hospital for three months, which I thought was because she wasn't really physically hurt much during the day. I think she might have. They had that they did the breathing thing. I think a lot of it had to do with the broken ribs.
00:23:11
Speaker
i Yeah. they might Maybe they punctured a lung or something because she had the broken rib. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Yeah. Okay. um before we Before we move on to the next scene, I wanted to say, did you guys notice that they changed the opening a little bit?
00:23:26
Speaker
No. I didn't watch you. I skipped
Opening Intro Changes Post-Joel's Death
00:23:28
Speaker
it. Oh, at the end, you know how when it's showing all the fungus grow and stuff, at the end it shows the Joel and Ellie little fungus. The Joel one's gone.
00:23:37
Speaker
Oh, that's a nice touch. That's a really nice touch. Yeah. So it's literally just her now. yeah I like that. and i was because I was wondering if they would change it because obviously they didn't want anyone anyone to know Joel's leaving this season when they were advertising it. so I was always wondering like are they going to change stuff after Joel's gone? and so I liked that little... That is interesting. it It makes me wonder if they'll change stuff later. Yeah, I don't know. yeah um No, that is interesting. Yeah.
00:24:08
Speaker
And then... um We go to the house now. Ellie's at Joel's house. Yeah. Well, really, well, really quickly. It's the shows three months later. They're all rebuilding and it shows that. jess Yeah. And then Tommy, when hammering down the, the post and Tommy like smirks and it's like, ah, shit, young guys getting there kind of thing. That dude is jacked by the way.
00:24:28
Speaker
Was he
Potential Expansion of Tommy's Role
00:24:29
Speaker
always that strong? Like I didn't notice him that strong in the first couple episodes. This dude's ripped, man. Well, he doesn't really do anything in the first few episodes. So he's just kind of, he's just kind of there. Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:40
Speaker
He ah I wonder how much of a role he's going to play in this because he didn't play much of a role in the game. So I'm hoping that he's a little bigger in this. Yeah, I like the casting of him. I think he's doing a great job. And I really hope I do agree. I hope he that's a little bit of a bigger role.
00:24:55
Speaker
He has like a some he's like a it's like a minor role in the game, but it it does play like. a Yeah, it's important, but it's just smaller. I'm wondering if he's going to be around like doing more yeah shit and in this one. But.
00:25:06
Speaker
Then it goes to the hospital where Ellie's getting released. And then we get more Catherine.
Catherine O'Hara's Character
00:25:13
Speaker
This is what I said. like i love that she's still sarcastic. like Catherine O'Hara walks in the... i don't know what her character's name in this is. She walks in and Ellie's basically just like, ah, shit. like Great, i have to talk to you.
00:25:24
Speaker
ah she said or i love take it I love how we get it later, but I love how she does it for weed and beer. She's like, ah, weed and alcohol. Well, yeah, because I like that because she talks about like, I'm the therapist and I'm supposed to have a therapist to unload all this. yeah well do She goes, I drink. I'm an alcoholic and I smoke a lot of weed.
00:25:44
Speaker
But yeah, I don't I really enjoyed her addition because she's not in the game at all. This character, there's no therapist in the game. So she's been like a really good addition to the show, I think.
00:25:57
Speaker
Yeah, she provides a little bit of comedic relief. But at the same time, she like kind of tells what the characters like are feeling and their're in their mind. like but You know the characters are thinking this. like When she's with Joel, like you know how she knows that Joel did something. but And Joel wants to tell someone, but he can't.
00:26:12
Speaker
Yeah. And then i love I love that in this scene also. ah She's like before Joel said he's he said like he did you wrong by saving you. What did he mean? And Ellie will still refuse to tell which we do, which spoil not. I'm not going to spoil what it is, but we do find out what it is that know the reason why she's angry. So I'm looking forward to that in the show. But.
00:26:35
Speaker
Yeah, because I don't know. i mean, the only thing I can assume is that she suspects that ah that he lied to her about the hospital.
Speculation on Joel's Past Actions
00:26:42
Speaker
But I don't know other than that why she's so pissed. He actually touched inappropriately. Oh, Jesus. Jesus Christ. It's pretty bad.
00:26:49
Speaker
Yeah, they turned Joel into a pedophile. Oh, Jesus. they and they named him They named him in the in the script who was referred to as Drake. you God. Yeah, but then ah then she does go to Joel's house. That's the next scene. By the way, no Drake slander here. I'm a Drake fan. He's not a pedo. I like a both. I like them both. These are lies.
00:27:07
Speaker
Anyway. um Yeah, so we go to the scene in the house, and i thought it was really powerful when she sees the jacket, and she's just walking around. She's going through all the stuff. She you know opens the box, gets the gun, but then she sees the jacket, and she goes over to that jacket, she just breaks down.
00:27:20
Speaker
she can't handle She starts crying. Well, because it's also a thing of you can smell them. yeah So yeah you're just taken right back to it. Like, I mean, i thankfully, both my parents are alive, so I haven't had to deal with that, but...
00:27:31
Speaker
my ah like after a girlfriend or something when if there's some piece of clothing that they used to wear or something of yours like i had a hoodie i remember once and i smelled it and like oh it was like a month later i was like oh fuck it smells just like her yeah and yeah it's a it's a it's a rough moment so yeah and that's the jacket uh that's the jacket that like you know he was wearing all the time and just think of all the times where like they're riding on the horse and she's behind him like hugging on him like smelling the jacket yeah after they saved each other's life or big moments happen you know And it just goes to show you like, it was like, she's 19. Like no 19 year old wants to like bury a parent.
00:28:06
Speaker
Like, you know what i mean? Like Hodge, me and you like hot, you got Hodge, you're in your thirties midnight. You're in your thirties. I'm in my twenties. None of me, like we don't, we don't, none of us even want to bury a parent. And like, that's like 10 years, at least 10 years, 11, nine years younger than me. And like, I couldn't even imagine.
00:28:23
Speaker
So it's like, yeah, it is surreal. Yeah. Yeah. i Yeah. um So then Gina shows up and she has to hide her tears to show. Like you said, she has to pretend she's tougher than she is and yeah has to hide what's going on.
00:28:40
Speaker
I do like I do like how Ellie kind of get a little angry that Dina wouldn't share that right away at the hospital. But, you know, because Dina and gene it Joseph to show how good their relationship is, because Dina knows that if she did that, she would just be stopped she would have stormed right out of the hospital.
00:28:55
Speaker
And she even says that she's like, here's the cookies to lessen the blow. yeah of What I'm about to tell you, I was I was waiting for Ellie to make a sarcastic remark, like at the end, be like, yeah, those cookies suck, by the way. Yeah.
00:29:06
Speaker
Yeah. um but yeah then we get the uh that this really goes to show you um how like she dina kind of knew that was the role she was playing like she heard everything that was going on she heard their names she heard the wlf she even saw the logo they even make a reference to it in episode two she's like oh what's that logo wlf wolf and she can draw it good thing she's a good artist because if that was me that we would have never found that that would have been bad um But yeah, and then we get like the whole um scene about this after. Did you guys want to comment on that? Because then don't we transfer to the workout scene.
00:29:40
Speaker
Well, I just wanted to say quickly, i like that ah after she kind of explains everything, Ellie already forgives her. And it's just kind of symbolized by her pushing the box cookies over her to let her take one. And I just yeah I don't like that little moment. Yeah.
00:29:54
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, then they're out the the farm and they're talking to Tommy and Ellie's like, we need to do something. And I love this where Tommy's like, he was my brother. Like I knew him yeah forever. Like, don't talk to me about how to react about my brother.
00:30:10
Speaker
Yeah. i just love that That was a very strong ah statement. And so, you know, I remember that too. That one stuck with me. And it also goes to show you, it like puts into perspective for Ellie. Like she's, She's 19. Think about back when you were 19. It's hard to put yourself in someone else's shoes at that age. especially cause you I know you're you're technically an adult, but you're still a kid.
00:30:31
Speaker
like It's really hard to view ah events through someone else's like perspective. um and Especially because you know she's lived with them for five years with Tommy and them, but she spent that time with Joel. like I know she spent like she spent months with Joel, just her and him.
00:30:48
Speaker
Just like... going at it and like learning about each other and she feels like she might she but probably feels like it's the only adult she's ever been really close to so she must feel like like this is the only relationship that he had too so it's just interesting and they make the reference like you know Joel would be if this is if this is Joel he would be out there he would already have been in Seattle um But yeah, it was a powerful scene. and but Go on.
00:31:14
Speaker
Sorry. was going to say, which I liked Tommy's rebuttal to that. He's like, no, he's like, if it was to save someone, he'd already be there. But if they're already gone, he would just be broken. Which is i mean, yeah, which is probably which is true, because think about if you think about when they back in season one, they talk about the the years after.
00:31:34
Speaker
Well, what happened right after Sarah died? He tried to kill himself. Yeah. Mm hmm. And also when ah that other girl early on in season one, what was her name? Test that he took that very badly, too. So, yeah.
00:31:45
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, because he in the next episode, he's like, don't say her name. Don't ever say her name. That's he says to Ellie. But yeah, i thought that was very powerful. Now, I know the next two scenes is the next thing, the workout scene or is the next thing, the baseball scene.
00:31:58
Speaker
Next scene is the Seraphites walking through the forest. OK, the Seraphites. All right. So I was wrong.
Introduction of the Seraphites
00:32:03
Speaker
So ah but before we get to that, I want to say also really quick, the big change that they made from the game is now Tommy's like, we have to go to Maria for this. Like he in the game. I don't want to spoil. Obviously, he's going to still be involved in everything, but.
00:32:20
Speaker
I don't want to spoil exactly what happens, obviously for, you know, midnight, but in the game, he just storms off to defend him. But in this, he's more level head. He's like, we need to go to Maria for this. So I'm, that's, I was, I thought that was an interesting change.
00:32:32
Speaker
Yeah. And you know, I think the, the, ah a good way that they, they made that change, like logical was what happened in episode two with the whole town. I think he's thinking bigger picture here. Like if I leave, like, what if this happens again?
00:32:46
Speaker
Bigger picture. yeah, And I think it goes to show you that in the member in the first game, like she was more in charge in the first game. The wife. Yeah.
00:32:58
Speaker
What Maria, she was more charged the first game. And then in the second game, it seemed more like Tommy was in charge. And I think they're doubling back down and like, oh, no, Maria is really the one in charge here. Yeah.
00:33:11
Speaker
Yeah, we get the Seraphite scene, and again, I think it, i you know, I mentioned it before. I think it goes to show you how scared the Seraphites are of the w of the wolves, basically, because you hear, like, the second they get the whistle, um they go from being really lighthearted and cheery, like, oh, like, you know, oh, the whistle. She's, like, she e's like talking talking to the little girl about the whistle, and then they get the other whistle sound, and they're like, oh crap, we gotta a hide.
00:33:35
Speaker
Like, we have to hide. ah Really quickly, I want to say I love that they're bringing back the whistle because that was part of the game. But ah before we get into it more, I just want to know what are your initial impressions or like at the to at this moment, what was your initial impressions of the Seraphite's midnight?
00:33:51
Speaker
Like, what did you think of them? Like, who? What about them? Confusion. think they're kind of setting up. Confusion. I'm like, who are these people? why are their faces like kind of cut in like this weird pattern?
00:34:02
Speaker
um Why they all got hammers and stuff. Where are they going? Who are they running from? I didn't know what was going on. um It was obvious they were fleeing some people. Yeah. And it was tense.
00:34:12
Speaker
But yeah, I don't know who they are or what the hell their point is. OK, because I was just curious because since they have scars on their cheeks, I didn't know. i was curious as someone who hasn't played the game, like if how they're being set up, like what are the people's impressions of them out the gate? Because they're a very complicated group. I'm not going to spoil obviously anything about this. I want you to learn about them as the show wants you to. But i was just kind of curious as to what your initial impressions of them were.
00:34:37
Speaker
It reminded me of fanaticism, maybe. Who knows? It reminded me of... in the trailer. Remember the trailer for the game, Hodge, that yeah that trailer with the Seraphites in it like that? Oh, yeah. The one that basically almost everyone was like, I don't want to play this but because of it it was like what? Like no one had any idea what was going on.
00:34:57
Speaker
Yeah, it reminded me of that. Like my mom, my mom has no idea. She's like, what? What's up of these people? I'm like, you'll find out. That's all I have to say. My like my. Yeah. So um but yeah, and then we go to um baseball scene or workout scene. Cannot remember.
00:35:12
Speaker
Workout scene. Okay, workout scene with Abby. i mean, geez, I keep saying it. Ellie trying to get jacked like Abby. Game Abby. Um... you know I like that scene. It kind of just goes to show you that like Jesse is still... um you know He still cares about Ellie. Even though he's got higher role now, he's going to be sitting on the council.
00:35:31
Speaker
Ellie even asks him, like ah you gonna can i can I expect your vote? He won't even say. because He's such a rule follower. It goes back to in episode 2 when Ellie's like, oh you know you're going to be running Jackson one day.
Jesse's Role and Commitment
00:35:43
Speaker
yeah But not now. Yeah, but not now. um and We know he voted no. You can just tell. I wouldn't shock me if... um joe um if At first, i was thinking... It wouldn't have shocked me if Tommy voted no, just so he could go out instead of sacrificing 16 people.
00:36:04
Speaker
Yeah, because that's the thing is I knew it was going to vote no. Obviously, we'll get to it, but I knew it was going to be no because I was like, well, in the game, unless they're changing it in the game, there wasn't 16 people that went. So three.
00:36:15
Speaker
Yeah, it was three. So, yeah, that's I knew it was going to be no. But yeah, I don't know, because it wasn't it three. Yes, it was eight to three was the final vote eight to three was the final vote. Yeah. So, I mean, maybe they're setting up. So it it is like Maria, Tommy, ah Jesse are for you to think it's those three. But then in reality, it's go to be three randos. And they're all like, no, I don't.
00:36:33
Speaker
no Or maybe we'll never get the answer. Probably not. yeah Yeah. then we So then we get to the... the ah I do like how yeah Jesse was like, write it down because no one's going to vote for you angry. like kind of thing and i really level Very level-headed.
00:36:51
Speaker
very levelheaded Yeah, exactly. yeah we get to the Like you said, we get to the the town meeting and the guy's talking about corn. Everyone's like, shut up yeah Corn grows quicker.
00:37:03
Speaker
Does this have anything to do with Seattle? No. Shut up Yeah. Well, I love it because like I said in ah one of the older episodes is it's so accurate, like painfully accurate to how a meeting would go. Like in the other one where they're kind of making the quips like don't be like Earl kind of thing. And in this one, there's just the one guy who just can't take who can't read the room, can't take that. And he's like, I want to talk about corn. And I was like, shut up.
00:37:24
Speaker
We don't want to talk about corn. It reminds me of a school committee meetings at school committee meetings. they have a start time, but there's no end time because everyone can kind of And like, there'll be a pressing issue and someone will be bringing up like, oh, what about a lunch selection?
00:37:38
Speaker
Like, no. Yeah. and We're trying to vote on a new school here, not lunch selection. Yeah. Yeah. Reminded me of that. But yeah, um we get the whole, um you know, Seth standing up like we talked about. That was very, like I said, that was very surprising to me because I didn't expect that.
00:37:52
Speaker
I like when they they flashed over to him and I'm like, oh, that's weird. He's there. And then they and then he stands up and like, yeah I thought his speech was really powerful. I saw some people saying that and we should have gave that that version of this that should have been in her speech.
00:38:04
Speaker
I thought it was. equally fine to have seth do it and her speech i kind of kind of built off of it and she um it's funny he even makes reference to saying like you're the one who called us us not me like i didn't say us you said us yeah um but i did like his his whole like you know if uh someone you know kills your brother leave the door you don't leave the door unlocked for them to come right in they took one of our own um again it's just more of like a redemption arc for him yeah Yeah, well, that's the thing is I like that they're adding a redemption to him because in the game, it's just bigot sandwiches, which again, thank God they didn't put that stupid fucking line in the game in the in the show. But hammered at that he was hammered when he said that.
00:38:46
Speaker
No, she said it, remember? yes No, I know that. No, I'm saying when he made the original comments in the game, he was hammered. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah But i'm I'm just saying, like, i I like that in the game, it's basically that moment, the sandwiches, and then you
Seth's Redemption Arc
00:39:00
Speaker
never see him again. So I like that they're giving him that little bit of redemption. and it Because it shows, like, yeah, he might be little homophobic or whatever, but he does still care about her. He still cares about everyone. He cares about the town. He cared about cares about the greater community. He even gives them supplies later on.
00:39:14
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. And he's like the big reason why they get out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah I like his redemption. and Like I said, I loved her speech. Ellie's speech was great.
00:39:26
Speaker
um I'm pretty, I'm um'm almost positive that what's his name? The, the Jack Asian dude voted no, because he doesn't want Ellie and Dina to leave because, you know, care he loves them.
00:39:37
Speaker
So, but who knows? Maybe we'll find out later. I don't know. yeah But I did think one thing that I thought was kind of weird is like this arbitrary number of 16. How come nobody Ellie or nobody was like, well, give us five people.
00:39:48
Speaker
Give us six people. Let us go. out yeah We don't need 16, you know, but nobody brought that up. They're just like, OK, but it is what it is. Yeah, I will say also, I like that they kind of had the one lady stand up and say, like, give her, you know, like I lost my sister and I'll like because It adds again, adds more realism to it where it's like it's it's not just these six people who live in this town. Like there's still other people and they all lost people to like.
00:40:16
Speaker
It would be, it's true that would be like, yeah, everyone loved Joel, but we lost other people too. Like we can't just focus on Joel. Like, so I, I like that it had like, it was a valid argument against it. Like, no, we always lose it. Like people are always lost, but yeah. Like if you, if you say it's just like what I said, like if you 16 leave and this happens again, we're going to lose even more people.
00:40:35
Speaker
Yeah. And I, I like the, um, and I just lost my train thought. Never mind. Let's move on.
00:40:45
Speaker
um So after that, obviously everyone votes no and it cuts away to then we get to the baseball game where Catherine is drunk and watching that scene in the episode. They have baseball.
Humor and Bonding Moments
00:40:58
Speaker
It's funny. She makes a comment about the Tigers. She's like, oh, same team as oh three. Yeah. We're looking about the same as they did on three. Did you guys get the reference? no is that oh three that and That was that horrible Tigers team. The Tigers had one of the the third worst team in baseball history that year.
00:41:15
Speaker
Tigers were terrible. They won 43 and then did the white Did the White Sox beat that last year? Yeah, the White Sox have the worst of all time. Which could be tough by the Rockies this year. But yeah, it was pretty funny that she made that reference and then the kids were like so bad. She's sitting there in an alfielder drinking.
00:41:30
Speaker
Yeah, the kid has the ball. He's run to first. He falls over. It's about right. Yeah. And she's just drinking. It's like, that's so like, if you look back at like playing little league, there were parents who were getting hammered. and Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
00:41:42
Speaker
Yeah. That's how you keep it interesting. But then, yeah, Tommy comes down and sits down and I love that Catherine O'Hara as you know, she's been a therapist for 40 years or whatever. She's just like, she's a liar. Like I could tell. Yeah.
00:41:54
Speaker
Immediately she's lying. And she is. Which again goes back to like, she's not telling her what Joel was actually talking about when he said I saved her and all that. And, Yeah, I really... yeah I love this character. i hope... I don't know if once they leave, are we going to get more of this? Because obviously... think we will because there's flashbacks of her... I mean, there's scenes with her talking to Joel about other things and and we have not seen them yet.
00:42:19
Speaker
Oh, okay. I wasn't sure about that. So I think we will. i think we're her in some flashbacks. Especially... i have a theory they're going to do a whole Eugene episode. Yeah. I can see what actually happened.
00:42:30
Speaker
Maybe not a whole episode, but maybe like ah a flashback because I do have, I have a couple of theories about why Joel killed Eugene. Yeah. Cause I think it probably is.
00:42:41
Speaker
ah wonder if it's like making it. um yeah I feel like it's hinting that Eugene turned, but I wonder if that's like a red herring and it's, well, did you see?
00:42:52
Speaker
Yeah. We'll go. Let's sidebar back in episode two. When Ellie found out that he was a firefly. Yeah. And she makes a weird face like, oh boy, could this.
00:43:04
Speaker
And in my mind, I'm thinking, oh my gosh, maybe Joel told her, hey, listen, he told her the story like, yoo he was turning, I killed him. But then she's putting it two and two together in her mind, like, oh my gosh, what if he was a firefly and he was getting suspicion of what Joel might have done?
00:43:20
Speaker
And then Joel killed him because of that. Or maybe they were out on a patrol and he's like, yeah, listen, I know what you did.
00:43:29
Speaker
Yeah. So I don't know. This is a random theory I was thinking of. Who knows? Maybe we don't even know. It might just be like, I'm overthinking it. Yeah. i mean, like we overthought about ah Abby and them getting into town and being like Trojan. Yeah, definitely. Oh, they're going to infiltrate town.
00:43:44
Speaker
We were very wrong about that. Very, very wrong. Very wrong. i thought they were going to drag it out. I thought they were going to drag it out. Yeah, I did too. I did not expect them to kill him off in episode two. I expected. I was thinking episode four or five. Yeah, I thought it'd be later. and I knew it wouldn't be a season finale thing because the trailer showed her in Seattle. So I knew it wasn't going to be.
00:44:04
Speaker
end of the season, but I did not expect it to be only two episodes in. But um then we cut to Ellie is preparing to leave. And the only thing she is loading is guns. And Dina shows up is like, hey, idiot, you got to bring food and blankets and and medicine like shit like that. Yeah, yeah, that was funny.
00:44:22
Speaker
I liked this scene because again, like I've said, I find Dina to be a super annoying character. She is, especially in the game in here in the show. She's a little better, even though she is kind of season one. Elia, please shut up. Kind of, even though it's just less charming, but the actress is hot. So I guess, you know, whatever, but, uh, but, ah But I do like that they kind of have that thing of Ellie's kind of bullheaded and Dina's like kind of the smart of like, we got to settle down. We got to plan this a little better because yeah she does the thing of like, where are you going? And she's like, Northwest.
00:44:53
Speaker
and like That's all she says. She's like, I'm going Northwest. And she's like, she plots it out and everything. And ah yeah, I really liked this scene. Mm hmm.
00:45:02
Speaker
yeah midnight um or sean one of you go ahead sean no was just say yeah i know i do like the scene a lot again it shows you that like you had said like ellie is like i just need to kill this i'm gonna go out and just gonna kill these people she's out for a revenge whereas dean is like well we gotta think about it logically let's go um they did a really good job with that um and then it's it obviously it sets up beautifully into like the next scene with like all right we're gonna go out 3 um here's where we're gonna be and i like how she's like wait only one horse yeah less car less she like wasn't even thinking so yeah one horse less things to carry yeah yeah then ellie was just like well what if i get a boner kind of thing so yeah that was it's just like it's like uh in family guy when peter and quag ah peter and uh cleveland are on the motorcycle together
00:45:49
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was a great scene. um It was good. I like how ah she's like, oh, you know, I'm about to go to bed. And Dina's like, yeah, and I don't think that's where you're going to go, actually. Yeah. You're going to be going somewhere else.
00:46:01
Speaker
Yeah. She's used to her bullshit. Yeah. It was good. to Yeah. So then we get to now they're leaving and then Seth goes, up shows up and hands. Like, I like how he holds out the gun. He's like, just take it. It's better. Like, yeah yeah, he's not like Ellie doesn't trust him. Still kind of goes big at sandwiches or whatever. And, but he's just like, just take this. It's better than your rifle. I'm on your side.
00:46:26
Speaker
And then he shakes your hand, which is really nice. I actually, I really liked that too. Yeah, no, definitely. Um, Yeah, shakes her hand.
00:46:37
Speaker
um Yeah, shakes her hand. They do the little handshake and then they get out. And again, he's he's the reason they get out. And again, it goes great to that redemption arc. And then I do like how they they do they don't just go like, day one, Seattle, like they did in the game, where they yeah they kind of show a little bit of the journey. It shows them we've been discovering the Seraphites. You get more of that comedic humor, too, where they're going through it they're trying to just name like, ah let's go through the alphabet. Let's name Bands. and then she's like, all right, I'm done with this. Can we name something? Oh, think of another topic then.
00:47:05
Speaker
Yeah. What about people you let's just talk about people we've killed. Yeah. Yeah. But ah before we get that, we do ah Ellie visits Joel's grave for the first time. Yeah. um no coy and Coffee beans with the coffee beans. And I thought, again, it's another moment where Ellie completely miscast, but Bella is doing well.
00:47:24
Speaker
And she looked it was a very well acted scene of her being at the grave and just realizing, like, I'm going to do this for you kind of thing. Like. And kind of gives him the send off of like rest in peace with the beans and whatnot.
00:47:40
Speaker
Yeah, very, very. po I like that callback that throwback to the coffee. Because, again, it was just like a subtle thing in season one. And a they they they Joel has coffee so much in season one. If you look back at it, he's like almost every episode at the beginning of it when they're just traveling. He always has this little coffee and it's like, you know, he drinks it black and she hates it.
00:47:58
Speaker
It's disgusting. I'm addicted to coffee, so I respect that. Sounds like cousin. It's funny. My cousin, he's always just like, I just have to drink coffee in the morning or else I get a headache. I'm like, that's withdrawal.
00:48:12
Speaker
You're going to withdraw. but my mom My mom, four cups of coffee every morning. She can't function. Like Jesus. mom That's that's too much. I get a I'm a I'm a basic white girl. I get a I get one of those frozen frappes every once in a while it's just to treat myself. But that's not coffee. That's just sugar.
00:48:29
Speaker
Well, yeah, it's sugar, but they put like a shot of espresso in it. So it's technically a caffeine, but it's not coffee. Milk and water for this one. Milk in my ivy. There is actually a coffee place near me that they do this. It's called like a New Orleans style coffee. It has like cinnamon in it or something. And it actually is really good coffee. But yeah, I'm not a big coffee person at all.
00:48:49
Speaker
Love it. Speaking coffee, we're on our way to Seattle. Let's go to some Starbucks. Starbucks. You're a Dunkin' guy, aren't you? I don't go to either, but yes, yeah there are 10 Duncans currently in my town that I live in. That is not a joke.
00:49:03
Speaker
That is not a joke. yeah If you see, if you're at a Duncan, you can probably look down the street you'll probably see another one. That's funny because there's like 10 Starbucks in my town and I don't think we have a Duncan. so But we have a Dutch Brothers. We got Dutch Brothers coffee and it's pretty good.
00:49:19
Speaker
Yeah. Duncan. No, we also got Cumberland Fombs, which they make a reference to in Cumberland Fombs. Yeah. Cumberland Fombs. It's in season one of ah Last of Us.
00:49:29
Speaker
There you go. Yeah. Yeah. We we have it's 50 50. We have Duncan and Starbucks. It's Iowa. There's, you know, there's one star, but there's one Starbucks in this town and no one goes to it. It's hilarious.
00:49:42
Speaker
Got that Boston pride. There you go. It's good. It's so funny. But yeah, so yeah, then we get to see if I like that it actually does show them riding through the country and
Journey to Seattle and Relationship Progression
00:49:52
Speaker
all that. And yeah, yeah, they're playing the game and she's i she's like Fleetwood Mac and she's like false or what I mean. I don't know what the game is. They're just naming bands like who the best. Yeah.
00:50:03
Speaker
Yeah, because, yeah, then she said, like, Frank Zell or something. I can't remember. This Green Day. ge She's like Green Day. Yeah, yeah. i think she did Guns N' Roses. Yeah, whatever it was. But, yeah, so they do that. They have their little quirky, like, oh, we're friends. We're flirty. And then they do that.
00:50:18
Speaker
I really thought when she cuts to it, she's like, we need to set up camp. It's going to rain. And then they cut to the tension. Like, how'd you know? But I thought this was when they were going to do what happens in the Eugene's pot shop in the game. But.
00:50:31
Speaker
yeah they know like i said they're slow burning it they're still just friends except she does give her the i wasn't that high thing so that's the obvious like now i'm into you but i do think it's funny that she does say like oh me and jesse already got back together yeah i think i think that's to set up stuff and that happens later in the game though i know what you're talking about yeah yeah but uh yeah that What's up?
00:50:55
Speaker
was going say it's not gonna be long before they start making out and scissoring each other. It's going great. That's what happened in the game. Will they just completely cut that out? It's like, no, we're not doing that. They won't. It's Neil Druckmann. um so yeah I look forward to it um and it does play it kind it. It does play kind of a crucial part to the plot later on, so you kind of need it.
00:51:14
Speaker
um I'm for it. i'm pro ah I'm pro Dina and Ellie lesbian. No worries here. Yeah, so then it cuts to they're getting they're going through and we find out that the Seraphites thing was kind of a prequel moment. Like massacre.
00:51:30
Speaker
ah Yeah, so they find... at first I thought it was going to be a trap. Like it was going to be someone laying on the ground to trick them. And i was like, oh, are they going to change this up? But nope, it is a dead Seraphite. And then she goes in the forest. Yeah, Dina finds it, barfs. And it's like, that's so gross. And then she goes in there, sees all the ah all the corpses, especially the the girl holding the hammer.
00:51:51
Speaker
And she's dead. Yep. Reminded me of Anakin in the Jedi Temple. Rest in peace to Hodge's brethren. they killed they killed They killed the ginger. Little ginger girl. Little ginger girl. Rest in peace.
00:52:03
Speaker
Yeah. so like Hodge's representation is gone now. Damn it. It's ginger side. It's always enjoys how it goes. Always erasing the ginger characters. No, but again, I thought that was a really powerful scene when they... um To just show how brutal the WLF can be. Because then we get into the next scene with them marching through the town like the Nazis and you get Manny on the radio.
00:52:27
Speaker
Yeah, well, because it's ah well, because before it shows they're on the highway, and it's like oh on a way to high. And then they get to Seattle and she's like, oh, there's it's quiet. So I guess there's not that many. And then she does the stupid like there's going a whole lot fewer or whatever, like to try and sound
WLF's Strength and Final Episode Thoughts
00:52:42
Speaker
badass. Yeah, whatever. And then so she so you think like, oh, there's not that many, but there's going fewer. And then it's like, oh, no, they're wrong. There's a whole army marching through the wall street.
00:52:54
Speaker
Yeah, we even get the um his name's Isaac, right? Yeah. um ah bomb We got it. I think it was it. in the city We may have been only in the scene.
00:53:04
Speaker
Oh, are you talking about when they show watch the next episode and the show? What's his nuts? The black dude? Yeah. i drum up Yeah. Yeah. okay He's like the ruth of he's like the leader of them.
00:53:15
Speaker
i I couldn't remember if that was in the episode or in the scenes. Yeah, I didn't watch the scene. It was it was in the next time on. It showed him next time on Dragon Ball Z when they go Super Saiyan. Yeah, i always skip that. don't want no spoilers, man. I'll wait till next week.
00:53:28
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, obviously it was announced that he's cast in the show, so it's not a big spoiler. But yeah, that's that's Isaac. Yeah. but Like you said, we get Batman. We get the brutal brutality of the WLF. We see how big they are.
00:53:41
Speaker
We get Manny being like, oh, they want me be in three places at once. Come on. Yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah Yeah, it was interesting how they he pointed out that he was watching the wrong zone, apparently. Maybe that's foreshadowing, but that's how they sneak into the city because he was watching the wrong zone or something. He's like, I thought I was supposed to watch one through four or whatever.
00:54:01
Speaker
They're like, oh, you got to check zone five through six or whatever. Who cares? Yeah, it's like one through three. He's like, I thought i was six through eight or something like that. yeah Goes to show they're not that they're not as organized, though, as Jackson. But they got a lot of people and guns. sir Guns.
00:54:16
Speaker
Yeah, I wonder if we're going to get just an open world area of Seattle. Are they going to all the different buildings like in the game, go in the bank and find Nate, Nate, Nathan Drake's ring? Probably.
00:54:27
Speaker
It's like in any RPG. It's like, oh, we got to save the world. But well, let's go to the side quest first. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, so that was the episode, basically. Yeah. Yeah, I just like it. Yeah, it was good. it just felt like it started off so powerful with all the Joel stuff. And then it just just kind of like scene of setup, setup, setup, setup.
00:54:47
Speaker
so And I was just like, this was definitely a setup episode. Definitely. yeah Which I really enjoyed since I don't know what's going to happen. I really enjoyed the building and the setup personally. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Definitely wasn't bad by any means, but I do think it was the weakest of the three episodes so far.
00:55:01
Speaker
But that's not to say like, yeah, not to say it's bad, but yeah. I am excited for, like I said, I was saying this to Locke because obviously Locke is in your camp, Sean, of he thinks the game's a masterpiece. And I'm like, this show, this season has been good so far, and I really do hope it kind of reignites my love of this series because, like I told him, my biggest two biggest complaints were the pacing and the fact that Ellie wasn't Ellie. And so far, they were are they're already fixing Ellie. She's not mopey and angry all the time. She has...
00:55:36
Speaker
her sarcastic side. And I feel like we're not going to do days one through three Ellie days, one through three Abby. I think they are going to intermingle the entire thing, which is good because that was my biggest complaint with the game was you do 10 hours as Ellie and then 10 hours is Abby.
00:55:53
Speaker
And then five hours is Ellie. And you're like, Oh my God, this is paste. I don't think, that I don't think they're going intermingle it. I think, I think they're going keep it the way it Oh, really? Yeah. All Ellie. then going to Abby. Yep. That's what I think.
00:56:04
Speaker
I hope they intermeable it. Yeah. Because if, if, if like season three is just Abby's perspective, it's not going to go over well. We will see. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, we'll, we'll see. We'll find, I mean, maybe they'll do some stuff where they time jump a little bit where something happens and then it cuts back and shows what, like,
00:56:24
Speaker
i'll just I'm not going to spoil it. There's a dog in the game, and they have and they do a little time jumps with that dog. so we'll I wonder if they'll do the same with with it in this. but We also get the museum thing.
00:56:37
Speaker
yeah well yeah I'm not saying like flashbacks to pre... yeah um like before the season. I'm saying like during those three days, they ah yeah they do cuts. so I think they won't do it as as hard as the game where it's three days, then three days. I think they're going to intermingle it more.
00:56:54
Speaker
All right. Well, I don't know. have wait and see. Yeah, old we'll see, I guess. But yeah, I don't have anything else to say. Like I said, worst of the three, but that's not a bad thing. It was still good episode.
00:57:05
Speaker
Yeah, very much so. I really enjoyed it. But yeah, that was our recap of episode three. We're all much, much looking forward to episode four. um Let's go around say one final thought.
00:57:18
Speaker
ah Midnight. Yeah, I'm happy to be here finally joining you guys. I should be on every episode most likely going forward. And I'm enjoying the show and I can't wait for next week's episode. so Sweet. Hodge.
00:57:32
Speaker
Yeah, I'm happy you're joining because it is it is really fun getting the perspective of someone who never played the game. So i I really enjoy kind of watching you learn it, even though me and Sean, even though I have forgotten plenty of it because I didn't finish it when I st tried replaying it. But ah it's it's fun to fun to see you Someone else's reaction. See it for the first time. Yeah. So um I enjoy doing these episodes. I enjoy podcasting with you folks, you with you two fine gentlemen.
00:58:00
Speaker
So, yeah, that's all I got. Yeah. Like i said, I really enjoy being here. I will not miss another one. If you like us, if you're just discovering us through the last of us, we have a regular bi-weekly show. Sometimes it's weekly. Sometimes we do a you know random DLC episodes. i will We come out every Monday, and this is going to come out on a Tuesday, though, so it's a little different.
00:58:20
Speaker
But our mainline episodes are Saturdays, and this mainline episode is going to be pretty good. I'm pretty excited for it. I can't wait to talk about our favorite states. All right.
00:58:31
Speaker
And that's it. Episode three. Our main line episodes are Monday. He meant to say, by way. Yeah. I know we're recording on Saturday though. Yeah. Right. But the audience doesn't care about that fact, but yeah. um Maybe they do. Just so you know.
00:58:44
Speaker
But yeah. See you guys. Bye. Bye.