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DLC 15. Day One - The Last of Us S2E4 Spoilercast and Review | Games Over Plastic
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The boys are back to break down everything that happened on E4 of S2 The Last Of us. What did we think? We break it all down here for your listening pleasure. Enjoy!
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Transcript
Introduction to Episode Four
00:00:30
Speaker
Hello and welcome to episode four of our Last of Us 2 spoiler breakdown here on Games Over Plastic.
00:00:41
Speaker
um we are we We join us each week as we break down each episode of The Last of Us, season two. um Obviously, this is a very special episode, so if you've not watched...
00:00:54
Speaker
yeah episode four, i would suggest pausing the video and going to watch the episode. Or if you're just like, screw it, I like to get my, I like to just break, I don't like to watch it, I just like to hear three guys talk about the show.
00:01:10
Speaker
That's fine
Podcast Overview and Listener Engagement
00:01:11
Speaker
too. Before we get into the overall breakdown of the episode, this is Games Over Plastic, a very ah special video game podcast in which we break down all things video games. We come at you Each and every other week, a nice bi-weekly podcast with various topics. Our latest episode, we talked about our biggest video game disappointments.
00:01:32
Speaker
All three of us spewed about how much we hate the platformer that is Mario. That's joke, because I love Mario. Um... No, yeah, that was our very special episode. You can go find that out. But yeah, if you are interested in us, it's your first time ever just discovering us, and that's just what we do. We have a bi-weekly episodes.
00:01:54
Speaker
um Oftentimes, we will might have very special episodes like this one or other episodes that come out. Every week, for example, this week, ah Hodge and I will be doing a spoiler cast for Claire Obscure Expedition 33. You can check that out.
00:02:09
Speaker
um We'll be recording that Saturday, so it should be a good time. But yeah, you can ah if you are following if you're watching this on YouTube, we also come at you in audio form on all podcast formats. You know, um Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Podbean, wherever you get your podcasts. I don't know.
00:02:29
Speaker
GOP is back in pog form. Yeah. Find it on your Tesla. If you're driving your Tesla around, you probably have some podcast app on there. Yeah, John, but with your new WAP Model Y. I know. The car did look cool.
00:02:43
Speaker
Yeah, it does. Yeah. um But yeah, um so we're going to get right into breaking down the episode here. Also, watchers, listeners, leave us a review. Also, leave us some comments. What will you think about the episode?
00:03:00
Speaker
Because we love to read some comments about what you guys are thinking about the season. um Yep.
Listener Comments and Anecdotes
00:03:08
Speaker
Speaking of which, i wouldnt I wanted to say that ah we had a comment last episode that I wanted to read. I forgot we forgot i forgot to do it last episode because you I said that I want to read like other people's comments on our show.
00:03:21
Speaker
ah But last week, our buddy Broadwick wrote in saying, what do Joel and Andrew Ryan have in common? They both hate the nine iron. so Ah, there you go. Oh! Ba-da-ba-da-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba!
00:03:35
Speaker
Um, actually, well, actually, Abby wasn't using a nine iron Actually, i have no f freaking idea. she probably was. have no idea what club she used. I've gone golfing. I've gone golfing three
Initial Thoughts on Episode Four
00:03:47
Speaker
times in my life. And one time it was freaking four hundred and six, four hundred or four hundred fifty dollars because in Hawaii, a lot of money. Jesus Christ.
00:03:55
Speaker
Yeah, do what stuff i do find brother and stuff I do for my brother-in-law. It actually was a really nice course. Some people from the Masters like who had like participated in the play in the Masters like years ago were golfing right behind us. Oh, they flew right by us. We let them go. I'm sure.
00:04:13
Speaker
It was pretty funny. But let's ah get into the episode here. So before we break break it down, we always give our like initial thoughts. So we're going start midnight. Initial thoughts on season two, episode four.
00:04:26
Speaker
I would rate this episode a 6.9 out of 10. 69. No, I thought it was a good episode. I enjoyed it. um If I was going to give it a numbered score, I would say maybe like an 8 out of 10 or so.
00:04:40
Speaker
um You know, I like the slower... ah you know, world building, plot driving episodes. I don't mind those, especially since I don't have any clue really what's going to happen other than the ending of the game. know I saw the ending of the game, but everything that happens in between, you know I don't know exactly what's going to happen.
00:04:57
Speaker
um So I like that they're building the narrative in the world for me. So that is good. ah My only complaint with this episode was Bella Ramsey, but we'll
Critique of Character Arcs and Plot Changes
00:05:06
Speaker
get into that later. So ah we'll get into that later when we break down specific parts. But overall, I did enjoy the episode.
00:05:13
Speaker
And yeah, happy to be here. All right. Hodge, what about you? What do you think? um It's really sad because i am now at the point where I'm thinking the game did it better and I'm not a fan of the game. So that's not a good sign for the TV show. Interesting. um i wasn't huge. I liked the um I liked Isaac's introduction and stuff, which we'll obviously get to. And obviously that actor is a phenomenal actor. So I love seeing him.
00:05:45
Speaker
in the show. Um, the, uh, Ellie and Dina stuff. Wasn't a fan of really any of it. Uh, but, Yeah, I don't know. And I don't like how kind of how they're changed. ah What's going on in Seattle from the game. So I don't know. We'll we'll get into it when get to the episode. But yeah, i wasn't huge on this episode. Honestly, I think it might be the weakest so far.
00:06:09
Speaker
I'm hoping that this isn't just going to become a downward spiral of me not liking the show each
Analysis of Isaac's Backstory
00:06:13
Speaker
week. But ah yeah, I didn't for some reason. I like the setup episode last episode more than this one. But yeah, I don't know.
00:06:22
Speaker
we'll We'll get into it as we go through the episode, though. right All right. My overall thoughts, I really enjoyed this episode. It's actually, I think it's my second favorite episode behind episode two.
00:06:34
Speaker
um I thought that, I love the whole Isaac introduction. thought it was really cool. Shout out to Josh Peck. Yeah. you know That was so weird. And the way he says, he had like, he said something like he used to say stuff in Drake and Josh. Like he had that like, oh,
00:06:52
Speaker
yeah like that like the way he said it and i was like oh my gosh it's drake and josh it was pretty funny i was i was waiting for some meme to pop up from someone in our discord about like him him is direct him is josh from the show doing something um i thought it was funny i love the whole you know he he gets out and he just throws the grenade and the um and the in the tank. That was awesome.
00:07:15
Speaker
um I thought i really enjoyed the um overall the way they handled the Seattle part right now so far. liked know this so wasn't this is a not a hot take, but not a popular take amongst the people I've talked to. you I liked the um the way that Ellie revealed to Dina that she was immune. I actually really like that.
00:07:40
Speaker
That was a good I thought it was strong. I also really love the interrogation scene with Isaac and the Seraphite. I thought it was awesome. And he's taking the copper and he's burning him. And you can like, ah you just hear, ah!
00:07:58
Speaker
And it shows how loyal the Seraphites are that he would not give anyone up either. And Isaac knew it. So he just, you know, put a bullet in his head. So, you know, this is not going to waste any more of my time.
00:08:10
Speaker
um But yeah, overall, really liked it.
Ellie and Dina's Exploration and Dynamics
00:08:13
Speaker
Midnight, I would, I'd say it's, ah I would agree or if I, you know, I don't like to score things, but I'd say it's around an eight and a half or a nine for me. episode So where does that fit on the anchovy to bacon scale then?
00:08:24
Speaker
um anchovia bacon scale i think it's much close i'd say it's much closer to bacon than it is anchovies okay canadian bacon like pepperoni or onion kind of you mean ham you mean ham ham yeah um i don't know i don't know this is this is this is a tough one you know because i you know depending on the mood i you know i like various pizza toppings really depends on the mood um Like to me, bacon would be like a, probably like an eight and a half or nine. So I'd say this is the bacon, but it's like, to me, a 10 is like that, like barbecue chicken or a Buffalo. I'm a big chicken on pizza guy.
00:09:01
Speaker
Okay. So like, I've never done, I've never done like, I've wanted to do like chicken bacon ranch, like Buffalo chicken bacon ranch. so yeah Like I want to try that, but then like,
00:09:14
Speaker
If I make that, like no one else in my family is going to want that. Yeah. What? No, because so my dad doesn't... My dad... So anytime I make pizza, if you got... This is a side tangent. We got get into this stuff.
00:09:24
Speaker
You always notice, i always say I always make a bacon pineapple pizza. I always... There's always that. That's always because that's, like, the only thing, the only topic my dad will pick. He's I want the bacon pineapple. But he won't eat chicken on pizza.
00:09:36
Speaker
And so I'm like, well... kind of that that's crazy man i don't know my dad's my dad is like very very but when it comes to pizza toppings he's like oh this is what i like i like my bacon and i like my bacon pineapple pizza i'm like all right that that's what i mean that sounds better than pineapple ham i'd rather have pineapple bacon so i said i've never had pineapple ham i don't really i'm not i've had ham on pizza before i'm not a ham on pizza guy Yeah, like Hawaiian pizza is ham and pineapple, right? I think so.
00:10:05
Speaker
My older brother was actually a ham and pineapple person when we were growing up. That's what his toppings were. Not bad, but definitely not what I'd go for. yeah Fun fact, when I was four years old, I was eating pineapple on pizza and I swallowed the pineapple whole without chewing it.
00:10:20
Speaker
Yeah, I didn't eat pizza for about four years after that. I usually just get pepperoni, um but it's hard to beat like a pepperoni, bacon, onion pizza. That's always solid. Pepperoni bacon.
00:10:30
Speaker
Yeah. Onion. I love onion. Anyways. I don't mind it. but ah All right. Take it away, Sean. um Yeah. So the episode opens up, as we alluded to, with Isaac's little backstory. It's 2018, it opens up in...
00:10:45
Speaker
They're driving on the tank through Seattle, and it's just a bunch of the Federalist soldiers, and we get Josh Peck. Nice little Josh Peck. He gets his little, luck I wonder how much money that must have cost to get Josh Peck.
00:10:58
Speaker
Probably a lot of money. um And they're joking around about how, basically, how they torture normal citizens and how they took the rights away of normal citizens, calling them voters because they can't vote.
00:11:11
Speaker
And right away, you see that Isaac, is different he he's the leader of those federal soldiers but you can already tell he is very almost sympathetic to the regular um citizens because he's like because one of them asks like why did we take vote why do we call them voters and he's basically like because he took their rights away that's why and everyone kind of goes silent And they know he's he acts very different.
00:11:40
Speaker
um And then he you know, when we get we come across a group of soldiers well just a group of like refugees and Isaac immediately breaks protocol and he says, nope, the you guys, you guys listen to me. i'm your commander. He gets out and he goes out and he basically talks them and he kind of gets the code word from them.
00:12:00
Speaker
a And when he gets that code word, he turns around, he gets that one guy out who knows that he kind of knows like, oh, this guy knows. is a little different than the rest of them.
00:12:12
Speaker
And he chucks those grenades in there and then goes, well, what the heck's going on? What are you doing? Josh Peck's face like, no. And just three kills him, blows him up. um Yeah, I thought this scene was awesome.
00:12:24
Speaker
I thought it was a really great setup to who Isaac was. I think it goes to show you um that at first he was totally against what Federer was doing and how they were treating citizens. And I think it shows how much, um,
00:12:39
Speaker
in the future, how we change because, or his core beliefs, because now he's obviously one of the leaders of the WLF, the wolf, and he's treating the Sarah fights, basically how Federer used to treat, uh, normal citizens, if not even worse, considering what we kind of saw.
00:12:56
Speaker
Um, what'd you guys think of the opening here? Thought it was awesome. I don't know who this guy you're talking about is Josh pack. don't know who the fuck that is. i had to look it up. I still don't know. Yeah. You're like 90. It's cause you're like 90.
00:13:10
Speaker
I mean, yeah, I don't i don't know who this this weirdo is, but I remember him from the episode. He was the guy talking shit and telling
Isaac and the Seraphites
00:13:16
Speaker
the story. The story was decent. um But yeah, no, I thought it was a good introduction to Is that his name?
00:13:23
Speaker
um Obviously, I don't know this dude, but he seems cool. Very stoic, sympathetic to the cause of the the common man, which, you know, I am a common man, so I respect that, you know.
00:13:33
Speaker
Yeah. I enjoyed it. I don't know. what Were those the wolves that were coming up there? Like the the beginning of the wolves anyway? but All the civilians? Yeah. yeah yeah Yeah.
00:13:45
Speaker
So a lot of it. So it's funny because like Isaac in the game is is not in it like a ton. He's in a he's in some scenes and you get how brutal he is. But you get a lot of like the brutality and a lot of his backstory through documents, random documents you find throughout like little things that you can read.
00:14:01
Speaker
Um, and there is a lot about how Fedra and was fighting with the, with the wolves, um, basically through throughout, you know, the time before you got to Seattle and the time that the, um, Fedra was overthrown by the, by the wolves. And there's a lot of documents. So you get like little things here and there like
Encounters with Wolves and Infected
00:14:21
Speaker
this.
00:14:22
Speaker
Um, but seeing this was awesome. I thought see actually seeing it was really powerful. ah What do you think? Yeah, I really liked this opening. ah yeah I will say, i i guess you're, well, I mean, obviously you're not supposed to like Josh Peck's character because the whole time he's telling this story, I'm like, this guy's such a dick and he needs to shut up.
00:14:43
Speaker
And, but no, I really loved, obviously it was very clear from the start that um it it was just a way to set up that like, we were at the point in this, like, obviously this is what, you know, people try to do in the real world too, where they try and basically dehumanize the people you're like against quote unquote, even, even though these guys are supposed to be obviously government people protecting the citizens, they've turned into just an authoritarian, you know, dictatorship of, of a government. So it was really cool seeing Isaac be like, we call them voters because we took away their rights and we treat them as lesser basically. And everyone's like, Oh,
00:15:21
Speaker
Like, and so I really liked that. He's telling the story basically, you know, basically treating these people like they're animals. And there is that one guy, like you said, who where, who he had come out of the truck with him. Who's in there just kind of like nervously smiling. Like, is this supposed to be funny? Or like, is this supposed to be like, really, this is what we think of our people kind of thing.
00:15:41
Speaker
And so when they get out of the truck and then, yeah, Isaac, obviously he's been on his way and probably, you know, talking with, um, the wolves about joining and stuff. So then he kind of proves his loyalty of being like, yep, I'm one of you guys and just nukes everyone. And, uh, that other guy joins, which I thought it was so cool that he shows up later. Basically he's turned into what he would, didn't want to be when he was in Fedra where he's treating the others like dirt basically. And so I thought that was cool. Like a little bit of show of growth of that character like, uh,
00:16:14
Speaker
an arc of that character. But yeah, it was a really good opening. Like I said, I really liked I've honestly, because I've wiped most of part two out of my memory, I completely forgot who Isaac was and like what he does in the game. So I'm kind of relearning him with the show. But yeah, it was a really, really good opening to introduce us to Isaac. So yeah, I liked it.
00:16:35
Speaker
Well, like I said, in the game, he's he's not really in it a lot. A lot of it is more of just reading documents. You get a lot. I was going to say, I don't remember him being like a big part of it but Yeah. um But yeah, and then it, you know, after that, it flash forwards, you know, 11 years and we get the part where Dina and Ellie are scavenging through the little, basically a convenience store and they're looking. Pharmacy.
00:16:59
Speaker
Pharmacy for looking for medicine. And then we get the whole Dina thing. She's, she spots something that they don't show the audience. She's like, oh, I'll be right there. And um obviously I knew. i knew what it was. Yeah.
00:17:11
Speaker
Yeah. Well, you knew like even before. I saw that coming. Yeah. Oh, okay. I was like, I was like, she's pregnant. I knew it. Yeah. Yeah. My girl, my girlfriend said the same thing. She's is she pregnant? I'm like, because when they didn't show what it was, um then I started to realize that her, I'm about to take a piss was actually a meaningful thing and not a cover story. i was like, oh, she probably found the pregnancy kits.
00:17:32
Speaker
Yeah. yeah Yeah. And she was getting And my girlfriend noticed that she puked twice. And so she's like, she's pregnant too. Yeah. Yeah. They actually make it more, um predictable in the game because shes she's sick a lot more in the game at the beginning. like cause They reveal it a lot quicker in this. like They reveal it um like throughout... i mean Day one is a lot longer in the game, but throughout day one, she's constantly sick. she There's a point where she's like, oh Ellie, I can't.
00:18:01
Speaker
I'm going to wait right here. and I'm really tired. I'm really fatigued in the game. um so they actually they make it a lot more obvious in the game but yeah this is pretty obvious but yeah she takes it she finds a pregnancy test she takes it but obviously it's not revealed till later um so then we're you know we're out in um seattle and um ellie and sorry i'm like what happens ah immediately after that i cannot They go, they're walking through the town and there's a bunch pride
Revelations and Intimacy
00:18:34
Speaker
flags. yeah yeah yes they they Oh yeah, they find the tank and they're like, oh my gosh, I've never seen the tank before.
00:18:39
Speaker
And then they did basically discover all those dead bodies and Ellie's like, wow, this is like, she they basically thought it was like Federer attacking Federer when in reality it was... yeah And there was pride flags as Hodge brought up, ah which makes sense because it is the Pacific Northwest.
00:18:56
Speaker
yeah So, I did think it was funny when she says, ah oh, it must be a really peaceful town. And they get out there and there's this dead body. She's like, yeah, I don't think it's that peaceful. Yeah. Yeah. These these are these like love loving rainbow people weren't that lovable or whatever. like She says like some comment like that. Yeah.
00:19:14
Speaker
um grateful Yeah, and so then they are, they're like, we should, we could start first, and then they see the giant um tower with the WLF logo on it, and Ellie's like, oh, gun host, we gotta to go right now, and Dina's like, no, we're not good, like, this, that's, obviously, we walk right in there, they're gonna know we're coming, first of all, ah people who advertise that, they probably are ready for people to come and um see them.
00:19:42
Speaker
um Yeah, Dina's smart, Ellie's a retard, so. Yeah, pretty much. well, I do... yeah well i do I don't like these characters because they're basically the same people. But I do like that Ellie is kind of like she's so gung ho on getting revenge for Joel that she's not thinking. And Dean has to be like, yo, slow down.
00:20:07
Speaker
We got to think about this. Like, obviously, like she said, yeah, like you said, she's up there up in a tower. They're going to see us coming. We have to wait till it's dark out and that we can like sneak in. So I like that she is kind of being level headed about it.
00:20:20
Speaker
yeah Even though she has she should have pregnancy brain and be stupid, but, you know, whatever.
00:20:27
Speaker
i don't know if it works that way. I don't think you just instantly become an idiot. I know, I'm just kidding. And then, does it, didn't want to talk about. I'm going the music store after that.
00:20:38
Speaker
Yeah. um But do do we get that interrogation scene first with Isaac first? Was that next or was that before that? It's right around here. No, they go into the music shop first. Okay. So they go to the music shop and um Ellie finds the guitar and she plays the take on me, which I think is actually really funny that she, that's one of like the first songs she learns in guitar. Yeah.
00:21:02
Speaker
because when I was in music class in fourth grade, we all had to, we're supposed to learn how to play guitar. Obviously I never did, but that's the first song they try to teach us. I guess it's like a pretty easy song to kind of learn how play. Yeah, probably I've never played it. Yeah, on the music guitar.
00:21:18
Speaker
And um I think it's funny. And then we get the, she starts playing it. yeah Dina walks up there and she is mesrima, memrima,
00:21:30
Speaker
by Ellie um bye ellie and she's been listening to her and she starts singing to her and yeah I thought it was a really no I did think it was a nice powerful scene it kind of shows where they are on their road trip it also is a throwback to Joel because Joel was the one teaching her how to play guitar and I think it brought memories back to both Ellie and Dina about how much they miss Joel I did think it was funny um how they're like, know, are you stupid? We have to lay low.
00:22:02
Speaker
We'll go in on foot at at night. And then they're laying down. She starts like playing drums in a store and stuff. And I'm like, yeah, we' we're really laying low here playing drums. I mean, I would assume, i would assume though, like music shops like that were probably soundproof.
00:22:15
Speaker
like yeah No, probably not. i don't But it's because it's because when she loudly opened the tank, they knew that there was nothing nearby. and that time, there was nothing nearby. But a patrol could have gone by at any time. she's like Yeah, it was it was definitely it was definitely stupid for them to do that. But yeah, the point of it was that they knew there was nothing nearby because she slammed open the tank door. So right that's why. But I thought ah my favorite part of this scene, well, there's two things. It's funny because when she walks upstairs, there's just the perfect light right there on that like cabinet. And I'm just like definitely right out of a video game.
00:22:47
Speaker
Yeah, I started laughing and my girlfriend's like, what are you laughing about? I go that perfect stage lighting right there. And then of course, yeah, she sits down right in the light. And then I did the thing that was the most real about this scene was as she was playing, because this happens to me all the time.
00:23:02
Speaker
If someone's like walks in while I'm playing, I just kind of stop and look at them and like, no, keep going. ah Because i I don't know, it's just like a ah self, I don't know, self-conscious thing. But so that made me laugh. But I think they ah I don't know, maybe Bella Ramsey can sing, but I feel like they did a little computer work there because she sounded a little better than I would have thought. Obviously, Ashley John, Ashley Johnson should smells spells way or sounds way better. But ah she did. She did pretty good singing that if that was her. So
Preparation for Battle
00:23:31
Speaker
props to her. if She did sing that.
00:23:33
Speaker
But that was auto tune. You could tell it was like synthesized sound on her voice. Yeah. but And then it was here with someone will find out. Yeah. it's It's just so funny. Also, I just can't get over the fact that this actress who is like basically a supermodel is mesmerized by this Mrs. Potato Head playing guitar. Like just it's just it's like ah every actor doesn't have to be, you know, gorgeous, but just the fact that she's so smitten over Bella Ramsey. I'm just like, OK, let's.
00:24:04
Speaker
G's on the inside, Hodge. We'll get to that. I got bars for that. That's true. I guess I have a girlfriend. Yeah, that's true. have a girlfriend and I'm ugly, so here we go.
00:24:15
Speaker
But now we get to the interrogation scene from Isaac. And yeah, I thought this was a really good scene. You know, it opens up Isaac's talking about how, you know, you want to impress a woman you got to cook for.
00:24:28
Speaker
like i know I always dreamed about getting these pots and um these pans. But, you know, I never, you know, I finally get my wish. Not the way I wanted it, though. You know, perks of the apocalypse.
00:24:40
Speaker
And then he picks it up and he starts like, basically, he's given the seraphite. He keeps on them scars. And the guy corrects him. No, it's a seraphite. I forgot that they called them that in the game.
00:24:51
Speaker
I did too for a while. And then I look for it. Oh, yeah. He said that we'll call them scars, which is funny because for the most part, they like gave them a lot of the scars to.
00:25:02
Speaker
um He also points out how uncivilized, that not uncivilized, but how like less civilized they are, how they like rely on, you know, bolt action rifles and bow and arrows.
00:25:15
Speaker
He also alludes to the giant civil war that they were having, but the giant war they were having and how there was a truce. And then one side broke the truth, but neither side really wants to admit who broke it.
00:25:25
Speaker
Cause Isaac was like, no, you guys attacked us. And he's like, no, you attacked us. He's like, it doesn't matter. He's like well, you killed our kids. Yeah. Well, your kids are killing our kids.
00:25:36
Speaker
And it's like, um, neither side wants to admit who's right or who's wrong. Um, when in reality it was probably like, you know, both of them probably really didn't ever want to stop. And they probably were like, screw We're just going to attack each other again.
00:25:49
Speaker
um but yeah, he basically torches them. He, um, you know, wants information out of He's trying to figure out where they're going to, where they're going, where they're going to show up again. It's funny. He says, where are you going to attack again?
00:26:01
Speaker
But in the scene where we saw last episode where they were traveling, they were kind of running away, like trying to get away from them. Not like we need to avoid them. So it's kind of like, you know, which side are you on? Are you going to believe?
00:26:14
Speaker
Um, And he was also alluding to the ah fact that like he's like, you follow this prophet who is just a person. she's not There's nothing special about her.
00:26:26
Speaker
Showing, again, the the difference between the two sides. And when Isaac finally realizes that he's not going to get anything out of him, he just... He shoots him. Shoots him right in the head. Yeah. Well, I liked that moment because like he thinks he's going to torture him again and he turns around the pot and the guy already has his hand
Speculations and Final Impressions
00:26:42
Speaker
out because he's like, all right, just do it.
00:26:44
Speaker
And so he realizes like, oh I'm not going to get anything from this guy and just. Yep. but then But then, yeah, it had that, like I said earlier, the guy who who was like the nice guy on the truck that he let off. And all of a sudden now, you know, 11 years later, he's just like fucking animal like thing. So it was it was such a it was a really good moment of having that guy showing just basically what this life can do to people. And obviously it does. that It's the whole thing of because it's supposed to be a little bit of a parallel thing of.
00:27:16
Speaker
how Abby and Ellie both have their side of the story. Well, the Sarah fights and the wolves have their, but their sides of the story. So it's the whole thing of, there's always a, there's always two stories to every, you know, or two sides to every story. Yeah.
00:27:29
Speaker
Yeah. And the the truth is somewhere in the middle. Yeah. So I wonder, I wonder if this episode is just going to completely just throw, keep throwing that down your throat. How the first season, every single episode is just like, Joel, you need to take care of your loved ones. Treat her like a daughter.
00:27:43
Speaker
so I wonder if this one, every episode is going to there's two sides every story. There's two sides to every story. yeah I also, I think it goes to show you with that guy, like like you were saying, it goes to show you like what power can do to you.
00:27:57
Speaker
Yeah. It can completely change their entire personality. what's that What's that phrase? Complete power corrupts or whatever. Absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. um Yeah, know. i Like I said, I enjoyed it. Yeah.
00:28:14
Speaker
So then next is obviously nighttime. They get to the place and they're like, how did we get it there? And then, um... So they see the blood first, and they they go in through the window.
00:28:27
Speaker
And when they get in there, the wolves are already in there. they Well, at first they encounter all these bodies, and they're destroyed. They're killed by the scars. They're wolves that were killed by the scars. They see the arrows in. So again, now that we've seen we've seen the brutality done by the wolves, now we're seeing...
00:28:43
Speaker
the other side of it, how the scars can also be, well, the Seraphites can also be brutal. Um, we see that one soldier with a, like the three or four arrows just sticking in him. they' oh my God.
00:28:54
Speaker
And then we get in there and there's all those wolves just like hanging and, uh, yeah. And, uh, did you shoot that one guy? It looks like that one guy had like his insides, like they all five of vo of them, all five guys were disemboweled. Yeah. yeah Their your guts were hanging out. All of them. Disgusting.
00:29:12
Speaker
um And then we get the scene right, legitimately right out of of the video game where, um, uh, first of first they find the walkie talkie and she's like, Oh, she must've called for backup.
00:29:23
Speaker
Oh, they're already here. We got hide. That's like, right. That's such out of a video game where it's like, oh we're going go hide behind here. We got to stay quiet. But if you know, if they discover us, it'll be an all battle. But if not, we got to try to sneak up and sneak around them.
00:29:36
Speaker
Um, yeah.
00:29:39
Speaker
Yeah, so the wolves come in, and we get the whole... um they're They're hiding. Dina hides right underneath the... Basically, in between like a little... She's on her desk, basically. Yeah, opening a desk, and she narrowly avoids the guy. Ellie runs up to the up um upstairs. She's trying to find a way out.
00:29:58
Speaker
Sees the window, but then the other guy comes up there, and basically, she she takes him down and attacks him, but that's when, obviously... At that point, all the wolves know that they're there and they're in trouble and they got to figure out a way to get out.
00:30:16
Speaker
Yeah, which is ah basically, well, first, before we get into the what happens after, ah it just it was once again a thing of this little midget girl takes down a guy over a foot taller than her.
00:30:29
Speaker
This dude is way in shape. There's no way in hell she would have been able to choke hold him like that. And then Like, it would have been more realistic because at the end when Dina does shoot out the window and they start running out the window, she stabs him in the neck to kill him.
00:30:42
Speaker
She should have done just done that from the beginning. Got up on his back and stabbed him in the neck because that would have been more realistic than her, you know, judo chopping him down and, like... ah that i just i can't i can't suspend my disbel or yeah suspend my disbelief with that like she can't take down guys that size it's just not it's not happening she can do with weapon but she's not over outpowering or overpowering anyone it's so it's trevor's rage power from gta 5
00:31:12
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah, then that was basically right out of the game where you're running away and you're having to cut corners because there's guys flanking because they know, you know, obviously they know the area better than them. So they're kind of flanking them and then they get down into the ah down into the subway.
00:31:29
Speaker
Yeah. But midnight, you have anything to say about that before we get to the subway? um um I mean, not really. I thought that was a cool scene, you know, when they walked in there and you see all the wolves hanging. Yeah. um It was, a you know, cool ah set piece shows you that the Seraphites are able to fight back and are pretty brutal in their own right. and You know, they had up on the wall.
00:31:48
Speaker
um I forget what is what did it say on the wall? Like something. Well, it said something WLF. No, it said it said like them like reap what you sow or something. I don't know. Something like that.
00:32:00
Speaker
Oh, I thought you were talking about the Sim. Feel her love. Feel her love. I knew it was some religious bullshit. So, yeah, so that was up there. I thought that was cool. And it was tense and they escaped.
00:32:12
Speaker
um Yeah, I thought it was cool. Not a whole lot to say. Just a cool scene that that builds the the whole fight. I was wondering, like, how the hell is Ellie and Dina going to be able to take down all these wolves? But now I'm starting to figure it out.
00:32:24
Speaker
There's going to be a battle between the Seraphites and the wolves and they're going to. Use that to their advantage is my guess. We'll see. Yeah. I mean, and their whole motive isn't to kill. all Their whole motive is to kill that group that was there. Not like take down. Yeah. Not wipe out the wolves. Right. Yeah.
00:32:38
Speaker
But ah it's also cool because they did this in the game, which this mean, we'll get to in this next scene. But I liked that in part of the game where in the first game, it was kind of either you're in a level and you're fighting against the infected or you're fighting against people.
00:32:53
Speaker
But in the in the second game, you could use. infected to kill people. Like you could have them basically fight each other to keep yourself hidden. And that, that was such a cool thing to, uh, cool mechanic in the game, which I thought they dropped the ball with in this next scene. But,
00:33:10
Speaker
So yeah, next they get down. I found it funny that they crawl in through this little tiny hole through the door and it just manages to be a tunnel down there. It's like, there's no dead end. It's just, oh yeah, it's a perfect tunnel to get down. Also, I thought it was weird that like when they they looked inside the tunnel, they looked inside where they crawled in.
00:33:25
Speaker
Like, why are they going start shooting in there? like Yeah. just go yeah they don't Yeah, they definitely didn't make it that far. He could easily just look look down into the hole and just start shooting. and Even if he doesn't see them, just start shooting.
00:33:36
Speaker
Yeah. Um... Okay, you know what I really find cool though? You know when I i have a... um You know when Dina does a thing where she's like one, two, and she's counting out? That is like the equivalent to in the game, the listening mode.
00:33:53
Speaker
Like when you're listening and you can see. i think that's pretty... I thought it was a pretty good idea. Yeah, it would have been better. Her count was way off though. She's like, she only counted five and then there was like 105. Once you hit five, she's all right, I'm going to stop now.
00:34:06
Speaker
Yeah, well, that's what I i thought would have been really cool if she did kind of like stop at four whatever. And then there were just like four. The fact that it was yet again another swarm. I'm like, yeah, come on. Way too many. Too many infected.
00:34:19
Speaker
Yeah, because in the in the game there was, you know, a bunch eventually, but it was never an entire World War Z ah ah swarm of zombies. It was. I mean, you had we had our scenes in the game with a ton.
00:34:32
Speaker
I feel like they did it. Well, because in this one also, they weren't really in the it was once they start running out, which is when obviously she gets in the game. She breathes in the spore. She doesn't get bit, but she is leaving. And there was a bunch that they're escaping. But when they were doing it while they're in the train, I was just like, this is another one of these moments. It just feels walking dead to me where it's like we need an we need an excessive amount of zombies just to up the stakes of the scene. And it's like it would be fine If the first episode, if they didn't make such a mockery of clickers of just them being like the knife and the throat thing, like it would have been it would have made more sense to that. They'd be scary because I feel like infected in this game or in the show aren't scary unless there numbers anymore. And that wasn't the case in the game. Like if any if you walked into a room with five clickers, you're like, oh crap, how am going to get out of this?
00:35:21
Speaker
And now it seems like it's just like a minor inconvenience. I don't know. I think i think moving forward, we're going to see more of that. Yeah.
00:35:33
Speaker
I think when we start seeing more of the stalkers like they they they showed in that that actually did freak out Ellie, I think we're going to see more of those scenes where there's fewer infected, but it's going to cause a lot of fear. um But yeah, moving on when they escape, obviously they're trying to get through the door. Ellie saves Dina by basically taking the bite for her.
00:35:57
Speaker
Hold on. Before you go that far, I want I had some thoughts on the scene in there. um Yeah, so I thought a couple issues that I had with the scene. First of all, I thought it was retarded and didn't make any sense that they other other than for TV reasons um that they come in and start throwing flares everywhere. First of all, like they're in the apocalypse that you don't just have unlimited flares.
00:36:15
Speaker
Like, why are you wasting flares? you and you find just die and light at people you're You're going to find out why they have so much supplies later. You'll find out why. All right. Well, I thought that was stupid. And of course, because of the flare, it ends up attracting the swarm because of those stupid fucking vines or whatever. I don't i don't know i don't know why they're throwing s flares when they could have just used their flashlights. But anyway.
00:36:38
Speaker
To make a look cool. But ah no with that scene, i I liked... Because again, they are doing the... We have to actually take do the ground root thing that they that they established in the first season. So i kind of liked that it did that. But I liked because in the game... Obviously, I don't want to rate it based on my thoughts on the game. But I like this scene in the game because...
00:37:00
Speaker
There's a bunch of them down there, but they know to be quiet because it's just a clickers that come in. So they start hiding and you as Ellie throw a bottle near a bad guy. So that the clicker runs and kills the bad guy. And it was real's like, I wish they would have done something like that to where it was just some clickers. And you're able to guide it to like the the fact that these army guys should have been smart enough to know.
00:37:23
Speaker
Well, one, it was really stupid that they heard like a couple of coming when Dean is counting and they're like, I thought it was empty. It's like, oh, well, it was. And all of a sudden it's like there's an army of them. It's like you missed a whole army of these things.
00:37:35
Speaker
Like, come on. But thought I think you might you could attribute to that to in the show where if one of the spores goes off, it kind of attracts more of them like from other places.
00:37:46
Speaker
Yeah. But how do they get Is the thing like, I mean, well, I mean, they got it. Both sides got in pretty easily. Yeah. I do think they're overusing the amount of infected.
00:38:00
Speaker
um Yeah. I think it's losing its impact if you're just constantly throwing like 200 all the time, you know? Yeah. But I just think that this could have been done better. It should have been more strategic rather than, oh there's a whole swarm. Let's get out of here kind of thing. But it ah I was actually surprised that that when they showed the previews for the next episode, that's when the spores are going to become a thing. I really thought that's how they were...
00:38:24
Speaker
That's how they were. I really thought that's how they were going to do it with this episode, because like I said in the game, it's Ellie's gas mask cracks and she breathes in spores, which is why, which is how Dina finds out rather than her getting just straight up bit.
00:38:37
Speaker
So I thought they were going to do with that, which that's not a complaint. That's just an observation. But yeah, I wasn't huge on the scene, but then obviously we get out and they get to the theater. Yeah, am. So, yeah, the next day, get out. Ellie took the bite for Dina and then Dina's like freaked out. Like, how what am I going to do here? Does Ellie even realize she was bit?
00:38:57
Speaker
And um you can see the just strut on Dina's face. Like, what the heck do I do? Like my person, the person I love just got bit. I have no idea what I'm going to know what I have to do, but I don't want to have to do it.
00:39:09
Speaker
Um, and she points the gun at her and Ellie's like, Whoa, what are you doing? She's like, no, I promise I'm not infected. I promise. And I thought it was a pretty, um, pretty good way to show that. Like, listen, I'm immune. Listen, you can sit me down on this couch. You can sit there with a gun pointed at me.
00:39:25
Speaker
I will basically tie myself to this, this chair. And, um, if I turn shoot me. Um, yeah, but I'm, I know I'm not going to. Yeah, I did like that because it was the even though I kind of liked again, not to use always the the game as my base for for review, but I like in the game that it was basically when they had their scene that didn't happen where they hook up in Eugene's place and they're just telling stories about the scars they have. And Ellie's like my forearm one. It's because I got bit, but I'm immune and I covered it with a burn so no one would know.
00:40:01
Speaker
And like, she just laughs it off like you're full shit. Like, ha ha, funny, yeah very funny. Why would you say that? So that they didn't have that moment of like, no, I was telling the truth. It was she basically had to they had to rework it. And I just feel like it didn't work as well, because if she had mentioned to her that she was immune before, she could say, no, like, seriously, I'm immune. But instead of this, she just has to be like, I'm immune. I'm immune. and immune and Don't shoot me, please.
00:40:24
Speaker
Like, it just felt. little more rushed to show her that she's immune than it was in the game. And so I wasn't, I wasn't huge on that. As a, as a hater of the game, you have a lot of things you like about it.
00:40:38
Speaker
but I know. Well, again, like I so i said, this to lock when we did the episode, I didn't hate the game when I finished it. I just didn't like it. And the overpraise has made me hate it but more and more over time. Overpraise. It's over. I think it's either overpraised or overhated. There's no in between.
00:40:54
Speaker
I just think it's fine. And I don't think it's like a top 10 game of all time. Like some people act, but i thought I thought the game was absolutely fine. I do kind of want to go back and play it ah or try again because of the Isaac stuff, me not remembering that I'm like, I do want to remember because I don't remember too much about the wolf part because I just didn't like it.
00:41:11
Speaker
Whereas the Ellie part, I really did actually enjoy in the game. So I kind of want to go back, but yeah, we'll see. But anyway, ah yeah, so she goes to, she says, I'll go to sleep and then we move on from there.
00:41:25
Speaker
But maybe anything before that, before we move on? Yeah. So, I mean, I obviously I didn't play the game as we know. um I thought it was pretty awesome how they handled it. I loved it. I like how she saved Ellie or she saved Dina. She gets bit in the process.
00:41:40
Speaker
And yeah, Dina's freaking out like, oh shit, what am I going to do? going have to kill her. She got bit. um And then like, no, no, I'm immune. Chill. Watch. So that was cool. um And then finally, when she realizes that ah she actually is immune, because Ellie like wakes up and like,
00:41:54
Speaker
the wounds not even like infected at all. And she's still human. She's like, okay, I'm immune. Okay. I'm pregnant. And then they start scissoring. Okay. Here's the thing. Here's the thing.
00:42:06
Speaker
I know people going to, you guys, i already know you guys criticize. You don't know what I'm going to say. Well, I know Hodge doesn't like this. Think about it. Dina, the person she absolutely, she, she's in love with Ellie.
00:42:17
Speaker
The person she loves For about 24... Not 24. For about... was probably a span 7-8 hours. She thought, oh my god, I'm going to kill the person I love. And then she finally realizes, oh my god, I'm not going have to.
00:42:29
Speaker
I'm in love with this person. You're to be overthought with emotion. Also, they're 19. There's probably freaking hormones going crazy. um um my gosh. I cannot believe it. I don't have to kill her now.
00:42:41
Speaker
The hormones take over. I'm telling you. that That's It's a pretty... it's a pretty natural young adult teenage reaction for this to happen. Not going a lie.
00:42:51
Speaker
thought it was realistic. i very real so I agree. Other than it was, see, ah I'm immune. I'm pregnant. Let's fuck. Like it was if you had just taken out the I'm pregnant part, I would have been OK with it because it's a weird thing to be like, I'm pregnant. Let's get it on. Like because I liked it because she's like, look, ah you have a secret.
00:43:14
Speaker
You're immune. You just told me that. why i haven't seen I have a secret. to I just found I just found out earlier today that I'm pregnant. So I didn't like it in the game either, but it was I thought it was at least handled better in the game because in that she just instantly starts calling her a liability. She's going to weigh it down. She shouldn't be there.
00:43:33
Speaker
And that's the more accurate reaction to if someone tells you they're pregnant and you're going on ah what could be suicide mission. But instead, it's I'm because in the game, I didn't like it because it was basically like I'm immune. And she goes, well, I'm pregnant. And I was like, that's a it's not the same thing. But in this, it it was just I'm pregnant. And then they instantly start boning. I'm just like, i know I would have been like, well, wait, what?
00:43:59
Speaker
You what? You're pregnant. And I understand like the hormones taken over. And I do. i understand it's Okay. And she even says it later. She goes, I thought I was going to lose you and I'm not going to let it my chance slip. Like I do get that. It's not a bad thing. It's just putting it just one, two, three in a row. And basically in the span of five seconds, I was like, ah not, not big on that.
00:44:23
Speaker
They also, I also liked that. They had the wherewithal to like, not go into like the full on show everything either. Like it was just like a very quick, it was a span of maybe, maybe,
00:44:34
Speaker
three or four not even like three minutes they just expand it and they pan out um whereas in other hbo shows if you've seen oz uh you know what i'm talking about it's like game of thrones like just going full-on love making scene yeah Yeah. for ah one One thing that I've noticed with HBO, especially, and with modern TV and Hollywood, um they seem to love to show dicks.
00:45:00
Speaker
Like, I don't know if you noticed, but we saw a dick. We saw a dick earlier in this episode. with Yeah, with the... um So they um they love to show dicks, but they want they don't want to show any tits or anything. That's for damn sure lately.
00:45:11
Speaker
And I'm not just talking about this show. This is just something that I've noticed lately. Like there's a lot of male nudity and not much female nudity anymore. Go watch the White Lotus. I'm telling you. White Lotus, same thing. And the White Lotus, same thing. Yeah. But I didn't want to see nudity, especially I don't want to see Ellie nude at all. That's for damn sure.
00:45:28
Speaker
So i was glad I was glad that they spared us with that. Now, Dina naked, I wouldn't mind seeing. But... <unk> I mean, it's all obviously they have to sign a clause and obviously these actors refuse to sign that clause. Otherwise, I'm sure they would have.
00:45:42
Speaker
And like, that's the thing. There's a scene in the game that I'm wondering if they're going to show that in the show, but I don't. That'll be a season. That'll be season three. you' talking about thatt You're talking about the sex scene. Or whatever. Yeah.
00:45:53
Speaker
Yeah. it either i'm not goingnna I'm not going to say who I'm not going to say who the sex scene is between. Obviously, I'm sure you've seen it in meme form. Yeah, side but in form I'm not going to say it to spoil it with anyone, but i don't think those actors sign that are going to sign that clause. So I don't think it's going to happen. But so yeah.
00:46:10
Speaker
So are we covering the lesbian scene now? Is that where we're at? I mean, we kind of already did. was like a two minute thing. Well, I loved the game. Okay. Yeah, go. jesus Yeah. So honestly, I thought that it was I thought it was extremely well handled.
00:46:25
Speaker
um i like i didn I liked the series of events. Like I said, I liked how she was panicking all night and then she's like, oh, you're immune. right. I'm going to reveal that I was just pregnant because I've been thinking about that all this time, too. And then boom, they start. me I thought I thought that was logical and would really could really happen.
00:46:39
Speaker
I had no problems with that at all. um I don't know how it happened in the game, obviously, but I thought it was done really well for television. um The only issue that I have with this scene is Bella Ramsey. is just i just It's she just... I don't get it. Like...
00:46:52
Speaker
Like Dina is like, but is practically like a 10 out of 10. And then you average them together. They're like a 5.5. If you average them because Bella Ramsey is like a one out of 10. It does. It's like, it would be like if I was hooking up with a Sydney Sweeney or something like the, the level of the level of difference here is just massive, but it is what it is. Shout out Dina. I of the beholder.
00:47:16
Speaker
Right. Well, it's a lot of people. I saw people complaining that this did seem kind of like pedo ish a little bit, which I can I can agree with that as well. But I mean, they're both the actors are both in their 20s and they're 19 in this. But yeah, I understand it.
00:47:31
Speaker
Yeah. But overall, I don't mind it. You know, little lesbian romance is cool with me. I got no problems with that. I did. i loved the meme, though, of like, so the next morning they wake up and she's like, oh, morning breath. I can't kiss you. and But it's like, but they were doing what they were doing the night before, not showered at all. I'm like, you can't kiss, but you can do all that. OK, I believe you. And then to hear the morning breath, they have beef jerky.
00:47:55
Speaker
Like, come on. Yeah, sure. That smells great, too. Yeah. um Yeah, no. So then the next morning they wake up and they just kind of talk about how, um you know, Dina's you get that little past about Dina's past. She's like, you know, I told my mom i like boys and girls and her mom kind of was like, no, you don't.
00:48:15
Speaker
You like boys. um And um even then she was like, you know, I really do like Jesse. He's a great guy. Just not not the one for me. Um, I didn't think we did get a little bit that Ellie humor. I know people are criticizing, oh I'm going to be a dad.
00:48:30
Speaker
That is little, that is very Ellie humor. It is. I could see Ellie saying that. I did like, she was like, it's like oh Oh, we're having a baby. And then she's like, oh Oh, and him, I guess. And the father too, I guess.
00:48:41
Speaker
Um, yeah. And I don't, i don't think she's being a hundred percent serious when she says that she's not like, Oh my gosh, I'm going to be a dad now. Well, yeah, it's, it's her, it's her sarcasm, but I, uh,
00:48:53
Speaker
I just found it funny that like she instantly inserted herself. Like all I was getting, obviously they're not going to do like, this is a one night stand kind of thing. But in my mind, I was just kind of thinking like, wow, really pretty bold to just act like you guys are already a couple after one night of, of, you know, finger banging. So that's what she's like, Oh, going to be dad. Dina kind of look on her face of like, it's like, yeah, i ain't your kid. What you doing? But just going to adoption.
00:49:22
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so yeah no um then the radio goes off. Yeah, the radio goes off and then they run out.
00:49:33
Speaker
Yeah, and they run outside. And they look out and there's like that whole like this explosions going on. We assume as as viewers, we're assuming there's a battle going on between the scars and the wolves.
00:49:46
Speaker
And Dina and Ellie grab hands and they're like, all right. We know what we're going to do. um i know Ellie tries to convince Dina like, no, you're not doing this. But Dina is like, no, I am going to do it because I'm here for you.
00:50:00
Speaker
yeah And yep. Sorry. Good. No, go on. I was just going to say, i Hodge earlier had a criticism about how in the game, I guess, Ellie was like, no, you're a liability. I don't think should come with me.
00:50:12
Speaker
And I think in this one moment of the show is kind of where they sort of addressed it, where Ellie was like, look, you you don't have to come. You're pregnant. Like, you just go do you. I'll go handle this. I also think that they have to... like In the game, you have a lot more hours to... like like If you think about it, like they had a lot more time to like drag it out, whereas in the show, they don't have as much time to drag these things out.
00:50:34
Speaker
Especially with... There's only three episodes left after this. And we already... and they already um They did confirm... There's only seven episodes? Yeah, there's only seven up episodes per the season. Obviously, they have another season too.
00:50:46
Speaker
But they we already know that, well, we're assuming one episode is probably going to be a flashback episode, like a whole episode. It's going to whole flashback or a good majority of it. So I don't think they have nearly as much time to drag that out. And I think that was just kind of one of those creative freedoms where like we're not going to, you know, linger on this for a whole episode where Ellie's like, no, um but I'm going off on myself.
00:51:11
Speaker
I wonder if the, oh my God, are they? Oh, i already know which one of the episodes is going to be, but are they, man, are they really going to just do the day one, day two, day three, each one episode? That'd be so stupid.
00:51:25
Speaker
but Maybe, maybe we're going to, who knows? We'll have to wait and see Because obviously they're, yeah, they're definitely going to to the flashback episodes because, well day one's already technically over. mean, they won't go. I know that's the thing is there's three episodes left. One's going to be a flashback because they're going to have to do I'm not going to spoil what it is, but they're going to some Joel stuff because I doubt Pedro Pascal is going to come back for season three because,
00:51:49
Speaker
I think he will. I think there'll be more flashbacks. I don't think so, because now he's Mr. Fantastic. He's doing Doomsday and stuff like I i mean, unless they they probably already recorded his scene yeah Marvel crap.
00:52:00
Speaker
I mean, unless they delay unless they delay ah season three again, like have two years between it like they do with this. He's pretty busy being Mr. Marvel now. So um and and Mandalorian he's doing still. So and every other role known to man.
00:52:15
Speaker
Yeah. And every yeah, he's in fucking everything. but Which, according to one of our friends, it's because Hollywood's afraid to cast new people right now, so they're just putting Pedro and everything. ah But that's some insider stuff. no Isn't that like the same thing? Isn't that like the same era?
00:52:28
Speaker
Like, that happens to an actor like every 10 years, basically. Yeah. ten years basically Oh, yeah. i mean, like Chris Prowse and everything for a while. But um yeah but yeah yeah, that's what that's what the pacing is going to be. that's I don't like that. but ah And hand it's going to be... You thought the pacing in the game was too slow. Now give the pacing is too fast.
00:52:48
Speaker
No one can please you. I didn't think the pacing was too slow. I thought it was ah bad that they did 10 hours of Ellie and then 10 hours of Abby, which means if season three is, if season three focuses on abby they're going to lose even more viewers because no one's going to care.
00:53:04
Speaker
ah Apparently there's viewers this time there. They're getting a lot more viewers in season one right now. I thought, I'm pretty sure I heard that they're dropped, that it dropped after Pedro got killed, but I could be, I could be wrong, I guess. But, uh,
00:53:17
Speaker
But anyway, ah yeah, that ending, thought, well, I guess ah I found it not crazy. I found it surprising that I guess not too surprising because in the game,
00:53:29
Speaker
she does stay behind most of the time. And you do go out solo as Ellie for the majority of the game. So I was actually kind of surprised, but I guess it's just to keep the actress in the story.
00:53:40
Speaker
So yeah they are going to do this together. We actually, we and we don't actually see them go out yet. So we have no idea. like you know what I mean? Yeah. It could be one of those things where, oh, I'm going to try to go out and then oh no. we're gonna be they're gonna They're going to put her to sleep again.
00:53:57
Speaker
But ah no, I did ah not obviously don't want to not going spoil anything about any future episodes or anything, but I saw they're going to the hospital. So I'm excited for that. I actually love that part of the game. So I'm excited for that part. So I hope they do that that justice.
00:54:12
Speaker
But ah yeah. ah Yeah. so this was my least favorite of the season so far, but. I don't know. Still got three episodes to go. Hopefully I'm looking forward to the flashback episodes because those were also parts of the game that I loved, like genuinely loved. So I'm excited to see how that plays out. Hopefully it's good.
00:54:35
Speaker
But yeah. Yeah, I really liked the ending a lot. I thought it was awesome. Cool scene of Seattle all run down with the explosions and the gunfire.
00:54:45
Speaker
um I liked how, like I mentioned, that, uh, you know, Ellie gave her the chance to be like, look, you're pregnant. Like you don't have to do this. Like it's fine. Like you can go home or you can do whatever.
00:54:56
Speaker
Um, I'll handle this, but she's like, she thought about it for a second. And then like, she's like, no, I'm with you. And they held hands and shit. That was cool. I like it. Um, I would say this was probably my least favorite episode. It's this or episode one, this and episode one. I thought we're both were like the most mid of the episodes, but I still liked them.
00:55:13
Speaker
Um, I think the best one, uh, ah but They were the worst two, the most mid of the four, I would say. um But yeah, I think the best episodes were two and three for me.
00:55:25
Speaker
So one and one in four are battling for the bottom, but all have been good. Like there hasn't been an episode where i was like, oh, what? This was shit. hasn' It hasn't happened yet, so Yeah, this one is my least favorite, but it's kind of at it's fine.
00:55:40
Speaker
I'm not huge on it. But ah one thing I also I forgot is i wonder if Tommy's going to play a role at all in this because.
00:55:51
Speaker
he was a huge part of the game and now he's just completely sidelined, not even talked about. So i i'll I'll say this just because it already happened in the show. So I can't really spoil it when they go to that tower where it has Wolf up on the satellite.
00:56:07
Speaker
Tommy was already there. And so they see the corpses like there's no way Tommy did this, did he? And then they find the dead Wolf and Tommy did do that one. And so they just everything, bro.
00:56:20
Speaker
Yeah, well, it's five years. It all it all happened at ah at that place. So I'm not spoiling anything there. But so I was like, so they completely don't took that part out. And so now it's just the Seraphite. So I'm just wondering if Tommy's gonna have any role in this. I have a feeling he's going to show up in the finale.
00:56:40
Speaker
Yeah, he'll show up when there's someone in need of saving. It'll be like a big moment. He'll save the day probably. Yeah, I can see he was. But I don't know. I liked, I did like Tommy better how they, what he did in the game. But I get like, I guess we talked about, they, they set him up to having to be stay in Jackson and be the leader because of everything that happened with the invasion and stuff. So it's whatever. But ah I was hoping we'd see more of him because I like, like i said before, I love the actor who plays Tommy. He's doing such great job. Tommy's a great character. So I want more of him. And so it kind of sucks that they're,
00:57:14
Speaker
sidelining him right now but yeah hopefully these last trips which are good and that was uh that was episode four um yeah so like we said leave us some feedback leave us some comments about what you thought of the show um but yeah We will read them next time. Again, this is our life recap of episode four.
00:57:37
Speaker
um we will be back next week for our recap of episode five. Also, Hodge and I will be doing, like I said, Claire Obscure Expedition 33 spoiler cast where we're going to spoil the crap out of that game.
00:57:52
Speaker
Very good game. You can hear our full thoughts about the game on Saturday. Also, please check out our mainline episode this last weekend that we did on our biggest gaming disappointments, where we talk about some of our games that we were hyped for. And then we're like, wow, I can't believe we were hyped for that. You can also, we had a really fun discussion about ah terrible games that we 100%ed and...
00:58:18
Speaker
Ice Age. There we go. Scratty. Scrat's nutty adventure. If you know, you know. And Adventure Time. yeah Same developer that we discovered mid-episode.
00:58:30
Speaker
That was great. yeah Midnight Mass Effect. yeah Very different. Very different. Alright. That was our episode. Let's go around say bye to the audience, guys.
00:58:47
Speaker
Me first. Yeah, go ahead. hu
00:58:51
Speaker
Bye everyone. Yeah. Goodbye everyone. This has been fun. Like, like Sean said, everything subscribe, all that stuff. And would you make love to a potato?
00:59:02
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